Reds, Yellows & Controversy

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[00:00:27] Manchester United actually got a victory. Oh, what a beautiful Monday this is. Welcome

[00:00:33] to The Corner Flag, I'm Amogh. And this is Mansi.

[00:00:44] Welcome to The Corner Flag everybody and welcome to The Corner Flag. Mansi Patak, a long time

[00:00:49] guest host of The Corner Flag now. I think we should elevate you to permanent host status.

[00:00:57] I'll leave the hosting bit to you, you're good at that. I'll just give my little nuskas

[00:01:01] here and there maybe. Perfect. I think that sounds about great, but I think to start of the episode,

[00:01:08] we should just say, fuck Akarsh, fuck Mukesh, fuck Prashad. Don't need them. Mansi, you are best friend now.

[00:01:14] Let's go. Yeah. But yes, man, it is good to be here. I am feeling great because the weekend was

[00:01:22] fantastic. Mumbai City got its first victory of the ISL season this time around, defeating FC Goa at the

[00:01:29] Florida 2-1. Man United beating Brentford 2-1. Chelsea dropping points. Yeah, Liverpool getting it. But

[00:01:37] you know, it's good to be here. Arsenal dropping points. City almost dropping points. And I think

[00:01:44] that's the most that we can expect from Man City. So yeah, all in all, a very, very good weekend.

[00:01:51] I didn't expect that United result. And I didn't expect that Arsenal result also. Yeah. I thought it

[00:01:57] would be very easy for them. But yeah. With the way Arsenal have been playing, it should have been

[00:02:04] pretty easy for them. Not saying that Bournemouth are a bad team. They are also playing really well

[00:02:08] this season. They can hurt teams. But realistically, like you're saying, we didn't expect Bournemouth to

[00:02:13] hurt Arsenal. Right. I think it was a home game for Bournemouth, right? It was a home game for Bournemouth.

[00:02:19] Yeah. Maybe that's something that played in their favour. A lot of controversy. We'll get to there,

[00:02:23] I'm sure. Lots of controversy for sure. We will get to there because that is the game that we start

[00:02:29] off this episode with Bournemouth beating Arsenal 2-0 at the Vitality Stadium. Arsenal's unbeaten run

[00:02:36] coming to an end. And funny enough, this is the third game this season that Arsenal have dropped

[00:02:43] points. And in all those games, they have lost a man to a card. It was Declan Rice against Brentford.

[00:02:50] It was Deandro Trossard, I think, against Man City. And now, William Saliba's red card against Bournemouth.

[00:02:56] Let's talk about that red card then because that was, essentially, that was what turned the game.

[00:03:04] Like, there was no controversy there. Like, that was a straight red. Like, that was as clear-cut as it

[00:03:12] could be. Even though it was at the halfway line, one could suggest that it wasn't a clear goal-scoring

[00:03:18] opportunity because he still had the half of the pitch to run through. But he was still the last

[00:03:22] man and it was a clear tactical foul. Yeah. And I think it became more of a controversy when the

[00:03:29] other players didn't get booked in the other game. Yeah. But even, I mean, looking back at the

[00:03:34] replays, I did feel it was almost a clear-cut opportunity for goal. He was through on goal.

[00:03:39] The ball was heading in that direction. Yeah. And I think it was just a moment of panic for

[00:03:43] Saliba. I wasn't expecting that. But sure, he didn't see that coming either. It's also very weird to

[00:03:51] witness a moment of panic from a defender like William Saliba because he's supposed to be such

[00:03:55] a classy defender. And he is genuinely a very, very good defender. His first red card of his career.

[00:04:01] Yep. Yep. That pretty much explains everything. And I didn't watch the match so far. So when I saw

[00:04:07] the highlights or maybe sometime in between the game, I was like Saliba of all players getting a

[00:04:12] red card. If I had enough money in my FPL team, he would be in my FPL team. Yeah.

[00:04:17] I go with Gabriel for my FPL team. Not that he gave any returns this time around. But yeah. And Michael

[00:04:25] Keen on my bench with 13 points. Last player on my bench. It hurts. It hurts. FPL is always a hard take.

[00:04:34] Like the season is long and it starts off great. And then it just starts pummeling you with terrible,

[00:04:40] terrible choices that you make. And it absolutely does. And then there was Saka as well, right?

[00:04:45] The absence of Saka which was hurting. So Saka I didn't have. No, I didn't have Saka in my team.

[00:04:53] And I felt like that was the one good thing that I did for my FPL this week that I did not invest in Saka.

[00:04:59] This week being the key point here. Yes. Yes. This week being the key point. I'm just hoping that

[00:05:05] all the other players of mine who also didn't really perform great, like I'm pretty much at average

[00:05:10] points this game week. Same. Somewhere in the 30-35s. Not more than that. Yeah, exactly. And I just hope

[00:05:16] that a lot of my rivals who have Saka are ruling their choices. So that is all. Unless they are

[00:05:23] somebody on the bench like your player Keen, right? You said. Yeah. Unless that's their first substitute

[00:05:28] for Saka. Please don't say these things, Yamansi. Please don't say these things.

[00:05:34] But yeah, so have we seen and I ask this question every time something like this happens. Because it

[00:05:41] just seems like a very pertinent question to ask, which is that is this the start of Arsenal bottling

[00:05:46] it? Every time Arsenal drop points, the question is always are they bottling it? Because I see so many

[00:05:52] Arsenal fans who are so excited about Arsenal chances this year, especially with the way they played last

[00:05:57] year. They gave City a tough fight. But the fact of the matter is they didn't win it. Now,

[00:06:04] Atata has been in the job for what? Five seasons? Six seasons now? Fifth season I think this is

[00:06:08] his fifth season. There is a lack of trophies, but there is also no lack of hubris from Arsenal fans.

[00:06:16] Like we are all in an amazing club. It's a great time for us. But on the ground of life, we like to

[00:06:24] temper Arsenal fans' expectations by pointing out these things. Like, are you really title contenders

[00:06:32] or are you pretenders? Because on the other hand, and we'll get to that game, Liverpool are just going for it.

[00:06:38] Yep. Right. But with Arsenal, usually they start sort of slacking off during December. So maybe we still have time for that

[00:06:46] phase. Really depends on their next fixtures. I've not really had a look. What are their upcoming fixtures? It probably

[00:06:52] depends on Liverpool next. They face Liverpool next. Oh, yeah. Bad. Yeah. They face Liverpool next and they are

[00:07:00] without William Saliba. So that is a double whammy for them in that sense. Liverpool, of course, four wins

[00:07:06] and a loss in their last five games. Top of the table. Yeah. They are like steamrolling under Arna's slot.

[00:07:14] So let's not even talk about that. I think the only thing that sort of can help Arsenal in the next

[00:07:18] game. I think it's at the Emirates or home tie. Yeah. Maybe that can sort of help them. But I don't

[00:07:23] see how your confidence is going to be good when you're losing away to Bournemouth.

[00:07:28] Again, getting down to 10 men. Three times, right? Three times it's happened this season.

[00:07:33] Yeah. And again, like, Arsenal fans and also people at Arsenal will complain about how

[00:07:41] Rice's red card should not have been a red card. That second yellow that he got for flicking the ball

[00:07:45] away really shouldn't have been. Jury's out on that one. I feel like he was obstructing a quick free

[00:07:51] kick. That was kind of obstructing the flow of the game. So I feel like a second yellow card was,

[00:07:58] I think, warranted in that sense. Leandro Trossard also, again, it is in the rules, guys. You can't

[00:08:06] kick the ball away like that after the referee's blown the whistle to stop the play.

[00:08:10] And now this one, which is again a clear tactical foul. So it does make it exciting to see how a

[00:08:18] manager like Mikel Arteta deals with these setbacks. One setback, of course, being that their unbeaten

[00:08:24] run is now done. They have dropped three points and not just two points. They've lost a game for the

[00:08:31] first time this season. They've lost a game to a team that they should have probably beaten. And they

[00:08:38] have got a player, a key player for them suspended. So keeping all of that in mind and keeping the

[00:08:45] fact that Liverpool are their next opponents, how does Mikel Arteta come back from this? What do you

[00:08:52] think he would have to do to steady the ship and get some sort of a result against Liverpool?

[00:08:57] I think you probably start first with damage limitation because right now they're sort of in this

[00:09:03] downward spiral, let's so to say. So right now, I think if they, when they host Liverpool next game,

[00:09:10] I think they'd probably first look at a draw to pick in with. Don't really think you come back from

[00:09:15] such a, let's say embarrassing, embarrassing loss against... We can totally say embarrassing. On the corner

[00:09:21] flag, Arsenal fans have no democratic process here. We can absolutely say embarrassing.

[00:09:28] I think it's going to be defensively difficult for them, like you said, because it's been a pattern

[00:09:32] that they've been losing players. And then especially with Saliba in the last game, when you have to play

[00:09:37] almost 60 minutes with 10 men, that puts a lot of pressure on you. So I think defensively,

[00:09:42] it will be difficult for them against Liverpool. And I think their best bet would be probably

[00:09:49] go for a draw, I think. And not consider a lot of goals for... Because even if they end up losing,

[00:09:56] you don't want to ruin your goal difference for the longer sprint.

[00:09:59] Yeah, absolutely. And of course, against Liverpool, we will hope that Saka comes back from his injury.

[00:10:06] They will hope that Kai Havertz is also fully fit for that role. Because again,

[00:10:11] Saka and Havertz have been in good form. They have been providing the goals for Arsenal.

[00:10:16] Arsenal and them not being in the squad just highlights the lack of creative output

[00:10:22] in that side. So suddenly, the cracks are beginning to show in this unfallible Arsenal squad.

[00:10:29] So it is going to be really exciting because Arteta is, in the eyes of Arsenal fans, a very highly rated manager.

[00:10:36] So how does... I like how you said in the eyes of Arteta.

[00:10:40] So much, so much shade, you know, and this is purely coming from a Man United supporter who's had a good weekend after a very long time.

[00:10:48] So there is a little bit of bitterness is seeping in.

[00:10:53] I mean, on any other day, we could probably agree that Arteta is a good manager.

[00:10:59] He is, he is. Absolutely.

[00:11:01] We're a good manager after a long time. I mean, he's putting them into discussions where Arsenal are title contenders

[00:11:07] and you know how they have struggled with this joke of just being top four at best, right?

[00:11:12] Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[00:11:13] But yeah, losing to Bournemouth is bad. Losing to Bournemouth is bad, yeah, 100%.

[00:11:17] On the other hand though, like if we were to now play devil's advocate a little bit, is it really that bad?

[00:11:25] Right? Because if, for example, and I would say this as a United fan, I would say, and if United were an Arsenal's position,

[00:11:33] if United were title contenders, if they were going through a period where the transitional phase of rebuilding the club was pretty much done

[00:11:42] and it was on the way up and there was a season in the past where a tough fight was given to the eventual title holders

[00:11:49] and now they were looking stronger than ever with off the field activity, transfers, etc, etc.

[00:11:55] In general, there was a much better feeling around the club.

[00:11:58] As a United fan in that position, even I would say, yeah, there are some games that you just lose.

[00:12:03] Like it is, it happens, you know, everybody has a bad day at the office and a one-off defeat is not the end of the world,

[00:12:11] especially when we are in game week seven. There's a lot of football still to be played.

[00:12:16] And of course, then there's the other mitigating factors, you know,

[00:12:19] how red card was, that was very early in the game, then for the majority of the game we had to play with 10 men.

[00:12:23] So there are a lot of excuses that do creep in. So is it, is it really that bad a thing where it's not,

[00:12:30] it's not like they lost against a newly promoted side or it's not like they lost against Wolves who are having a terrible season.

[00:12:38] They are not losing against West Ham who are also underperforming. It is a Bournemouth side under an exciting manager in Antonio Raola

[00:12:46] who have started playing really, really well. They have not set the Premier League on fire, but they are a team that can hurt bigger teams.

[00:12:56] And they are a team that should be feared. So maybe it's not that bad, you know, it's not that big a deal.

[00:13:04] And I'm just only trying to say this for Arsenal fans to get them back on site.

[00:13:10] I think if we look at it in from the larger picture, which you're trying to say, it's maybe just a blip in their whole journey.

[00:13:17] But many times we reach like the end of the season and you end up losing titles on a few points or even goal difference here and there.

[00:13:24] So when you look back at results, you would feel like, oh, this was an almost winnable game where my club dropped points.

[00:13:30] Yeah. And yeah, I mean, if they were to lose against a fellow top six side, then I can understand where it's a little bit like how Chelsea losing to Liverpool.

[00:13:40] I don't think they played badly. No, they don't.

[00:13:43] But yeah, but like Arsenal losing to Bournemouth, I think it was a bit, bit, bit unexpected for me.

[00:13:49] But I know that Arsenal fans are not that surprised.

[00:13:52] Yeah.

[00:13:53] They are like United, us United fans, they are perpetually hoping the worst.

[00:13:57] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what generational trauma will do to you.

[00:14:02] They have been through so much shit.

[00:14:05] The last few years of Wenger, all of Emery.

[00:14:07] So they have been through a lot.

[00:14:09] So yeah, I completely relate on that aspect with Arsenal fans, but not much more.

[00:14:14] But with that aspect, I completely relate.

[00:14:16] Arsenal, of course, now find themselves third in the table.

[00:14:19] Four points off top for Liverpool who are at 21 points.

[00:14:22] City, just one point behind them in second place.

[00:14:25] Chelsea coming up to sixth place now on 14 points.

[00:14:29] And that is the game that we go through next.

[00:14:31] We go to Anfield for Liverpool 2-Chelsea 1.

[00:14:34] Okay.

[00:14:35] I know Southampton Leicester was an absolute barn burner.

[00:14:38] 2-3 to Leicester.

[00:14:39] Fucking last minute winner from Leicester and all of that.

[00:14:42] Especially after Southampton were 2-0 up.

[00:14:44] But Liverpool-Chelsea was an entertaining game to watch.

[00:14:47] I cannot deny that.

[00:14:48] As a United fan, as a complete neutral with no skin in the game.

[00:14:51] Nothing in this game would ever affect the fortunes of Man United or Man United fans.

[00:14:57] It was a wholly entertaining game to watch.

[00:15:01] 100% like when you watch matches of rivals, you have this mindset.

[00:15:05] I hope both teams lose.

[00:15:07] Yeah.

[00:15:08] Especially when both of them are above you in the table.

[00:15:11] Wouldn't that be amazing, by the way?

[00:15:14] If both teams lost.

[00:15:16] Like it's not a draw.

[00:15:17] They just both lost.

[00:15:19] Like the Premier League.

[00:15:19] The referee said,

[00:15:20] You guys are so much fun.

[00:15:22] You won't get a point.

[00:15:24] Forget the scoreline.

[00:15:25] Nobody gets points.

[00:15:25] In fact, you get deductions.

[00:15:27] You know, I should think about it.

[00:15:29] Because there have been many matches.

[00:15:30] United have played horrible.

[00:15:32] Yeah.

[00:15:32] And they would be the first ones to qualify for this rule.

[00:15:35] Yeah.

[00:15:35] Absolutely.

[00:15:36] But yeah.

[00:15:36] Really, really nice game.

[00:15:38] I feel like the tempo was so high.

[00:15:40] And then Chelsea was so good.

[00:15:42] Yeah.

[00:15:42] It was almost surprising that they lost because they had more possession.

[00:15:46] They had more attempts.

[00:15:47] But Liverpool just...

[00:15:49] They were not at their best, for sure, in that game.

[00:15:52] But they know how to get their job done.

[00:15:54] Yeah.

[00:15:55] So let's go to the first talking point.

[00:15:57] And the biggest talking point, of course, is the Tawson Adaribayo foul.

[00:16:01] That probably should have been a red card.

[00:16:04] And like you pointed out earlier, while we were discussing the Saliba red card,

[00:16:07] the controversy was not in the Saliba red card.

[00:16:09] The controversy was the fact that Tawson had a similar challenge

[00:16:13] in a similar area of the pitch.

[00:16:15] And he was only shown a yellow.

[00:16:17] So what is your understanding of that Tawson foul?

[00:16:21] Tawson foul, I think, yes, it was definitely.

[00:16:25] Obviously, a yellow.

[00:16:26] But when we talk about a red, I think if you want to argue for consistency,

[00:16:29] the referee should give a red there.

[00:16:31] Because it was almost similar.

[00:16:33] Both the fouls were almost similar.

[00:16:36] But then, I'm not a referee.

[00:16:38] Right?

[00:16:38] And I've been trying to listen to other people's views,

[00:16:42] not the fans of those particular clubs.

[00:16:44] But I saw Mike Dean.

[00:16:45] He was trying to explain it.

[00:16:46] And according to him, it was completely different.

[00:16:49] How?

[00:16:49] I don't know.

[00:16:50] Yeah.

[00:16:50] I'll come to the explanation.

[00:16:51] So he was...

[00:16:52] Yeah.

[00:16:53] He was saying that the ball was going more towards the touchline,

[00:16:56] towards the officials.

[00:16:58] So I think it was going more towards the right

[00:16:59] rather than going more towards the goal.

[00:17:02] And the commentators during the game I picked up,

[00:17:05] they said that probably Tawson sort of got saved

[00:17:08] because James on the left was as a covering defender.

[00:17:12] Or I think Colby on the right was as a covering defender.

[00:17:16] One of those.

[00:17:17] I don't remember exactly.

[00:17:18] Even Mike Dean seemed to say the same thing,

[00:17:20] that because of James, he probably got saved.

[00:17:23] Yeah.

[00:17:23] But again, it's very contentious.

[00:17:26] It is, right?

[00:17:27] Because when I saw it the first time,

[00:17:29] I thought Reece James was in a position where he could have covered.

[00:17:33] And Tawson wasn't the last man.

[00:17:36] But then when I saw it again,

[00:17:39] it really did feel like Tawson was the last man.

[00:17:41] And yes, I do agree that it was wearing towards the touchline a little bit.

[00:17:45] But I feel like that's very marginal.

[00:17:49] Like that is absolutely purely on technicality basis.

[00:17:53] Yeah.

[00:17:53] You know, it is like handwriting was wrong.

[00:17:56] It wasn't good handwriting.

[00:17:57] So that's why Adhamar cut it.

[00:17:59] Exactly.

[00:17:59] That is that level.

[00:18:01] Yeah.

[00:18:01] But that's been the problem for quite some time

[00:18:04] that there's no consistency in calls.

[00:18:06] And then it just comes down to what one referee thinks,

[00:18:09] what the war thinks and what someone else doesn't think.

[00:18:12] Because like you said,

[00:18:13] if you just show me stills of both the goals,

[00:18:17] sorry, both the fouls,

[00:18:18] it looks exactly the same.

[00:18:21] Looks exactly the same.

[00:18:22] Yeah.

[00:18:22] And I don't know if the ball was generally going more towards the right side.

[00:18:27] It's like how in cricket,

[00:18:28] when they go for the umpires review and you use,

[00:18:30] what is that?

[00:18:31] Ultra edge or Hawkeye.

[00:18:33] And then they show the ball is going this way.

[00:18:36] I don't know.

[00:18:37] A lot of technology involved in this,

[00:18:39] but to my naked eye and to my,

[00:18:42] let's say,

[00:18:43] late man view,

[00:18:44] I think it looked like a red.

[00:18:45] It should have been a red.

[00:18:46] Because how is a red a one day

[00:18:47] and the second day it becomes a yellow for somebody else?

[00:18:50] I mean,

[00:18:51] also the other thing is,

[00:18:52] I feel like the margins were so thin on that one.

[00:18:56] You would have expected VAR to overturn an on-field red.

[00:19:01] And say,

[00:19:01] no,

[00:19:02] actually,

[00:19:03] if we play,

[00:19:04] he was going to be a little right.

[00:19:05] Reese James was also going to be a red card.

[00:19:07] He overturned it and gave him a yellow card.

[00:19:09] But on-field referees only give a yellow card.

[00:19:12] I mean,

[00:19:12] then what is the point of VAR,

[00:19:13] guys?

[00:19:14] Your on-field referees are only making these great calls.

[00:19:17] So,

[00:19:17] what are we talking about?

[00:19:18] Also,

[00:19:19] just thought about this,

[00:19:20] toss in Adaribayo,

[00:19:21] toss in rather,

[00:19:22] more of a pizza,

[00:19:23] less of a defender.

[00:19:25] So,

[00:19:26] that is just my two cents on this entire matter.

[00:19:31] You please do your deep dish,

[00:19:33] thin crust,

[00:19:34] whatever nonsense.

[00:19:35] Don't deal with defense and all of that.

[00:19:38] Can we,

[00:19:39] is there a moment for Jaden Sancho

[00:19:41] and his lack of visibility?

[00:19:45] Bless you.

[00:19:46] I think second half,

[00:19:48] who was he replaced with?

[00:19:49] Neto?

[00:19:49] Or was he?

[00:19:50] I think it was Neto, yeah.

[00:19:51] Neto.

[00:19:52] And Neto was excellent.

[00:19:53] He was excellent after coming off the bench.

[00:19:55] Like,

[00:19:55] you could see,

[00:19:56] every time,

[00:19:57] so I was working during that match,

[00:19:58] and every time I would put my head up,

[00:20:00] there's something happening because of Neto.

[00:20:02] Yeah.

[00:20:02] Something happening because of Neto.

[00:20:04] He was,

[00:20:04] he was really impactful.

[00:20:05] And Sancho,

[00:20:06] almost anonymous,

[00:20:08] I think.

[00:20:08] I mean,

[00:20:09] pretty much,

[00:20:10] almost is an overstatement,

[00:20:12] I feel.

[00:20:12] I saw this tweet somewhere,

[00:20:13] and I echo the sentiments.

[00:20:15] Chelsea,

[00:20:16] thank you for the 25 million pounds.

[00:20:19] He was so sad.

[00:20:20] He was,

[00:20:21] yeah,

[00:20:21] I mean,

[00:20:21] it's like,

[00:20:22] was he even there in the game?

[00:20:24] You know,

[00:20:25] as a United fan,

[00:20:27] I have to point this out.

[00:20:28] Like,

[00:20:29] there are so many videos out there about media bias against United.

[00:20:33] And,

[00:20:33] you know,

[00:20:33] some people,

[00:20:35] even people who are listening to this,

[00:20:36] watching this on YouTube,

[00:20:37] whatever,

[00:20:37] are probably going to say,

[00:20:38] oh,

[00:20:38] you've got your tinfoil hat on.

[00:20:40] You're going to conspiracy theory.

[00:20:41] Media is going to be like,

[00:20:43] if the club is a little,

[00:20:44] then it will be a little.

[00:20:45] No,

[00:20:46] but,

[00:20:47] I remember,

[00:20:48] as soon as,

[00:20:49] Jaden Sancho,

[00:20:51] started for Chelsea,

[00:20:55] every article was about,

[00:20:56] Jaden Sancho is smiling.

[00:20:58] Like,

[00:20:58] there's a picture of him smiling.

[00:20:59] Oh,

[00:21:00] he's finally free,

[00:21:01] and he's smiling.

[00:21:02] He didn't do anything.

[00:21:03] He's just smiling.

[00:21:05] And,

[00:21:05] that is such a breath of fresh air,

[00:21:07] because,

[00:21:07] Jaden Sancho is finally,

[00:21:08] finally found his home.

[00:21:09] Then,

[00:21:10] he plays one pass.

[00:21:11] At the halfway line,

[00:21:12] he plays one pass for Nicholas Jackson,

[00:21:14] who then has to do all the work,

[00:21:16] of beating two defenders,

[00:21:17] and scoring a goal.

[00:21:18] Jaden Sancho has an assist on debut.

[00:21:20] You know,

[00:21:21] this is what Man United have been missing.

[00:21:23] Like,

[00:21:23] why?

[00:21:24] And,

[00:21:25] at that time,

[00:21:26] I said also,

[00:21:27] guys,

[00:21:28] this honeymoon period,

[00:21:30] is going to end,

[00:21:31] so spectacularly,

[00:21:32] and so fast.

[00:21:33] Because,

[00:21:34] we've seen it.

[00:21:35] He's a very talented player,

[00:21:37] no doubt.

[00:21:37] But,

[00:21:38] he doesn't have the mentality to cut it at the highest level.

[00:21:41] Like,

[00:21:42] he does not.

[00:21:42] He is,

[00:21:43] he is too self-obsessed,

[00:21:46] or self-absorbed,

[00:21:47] and he's got way too many distractions,

[00:21:49] to be an elite level,

[00:21:50] consistent player.

[00:21:52] Very good player,

[00:21:53] and if he finds a club and a manager who can get that out of him,

[00:21:56] great.

[00:21:56] Because,

[00:21:56] he is genuinely good fun to watch.

[00:21:59] But,

[00:21:59] he is not the next best thing,

[00:22:01] or the next big thing,

[00:22:02] as people have been making it out to be.

[00:22:05] There is a reason,

[00:22:06] why the Man City Academy,

[00:22:08] were okay with letting him go.

[00:22:10] There is a very,

[00:22:11] very obvious reason.

[00:22:12] There is a reason,

[00:22:13] why Dortmund didn't want to sign him,

[00:22:15] on a permanent fee.

[00:22:17] Right.

[00:22:17] For whatever.

[00:22:21] Like,

[00:22:21] if they genuinely wanted the dude,

[00:22:23] they would have made an effort,

[00:22:24] to sign him on a permanent basis.

[00:22:26] They didn't want to do that.

[00:22:28] So,

[00:22:28] and of course,

[00:22:29] you can't say anything about Chelsea,

[00:22:31] buying players,

[00:22:32] because they will buy anyone.

[00:22:33] They will buy my first born child also.

[00:22:35] I am very worried about that.

[00:22:37] As soon as,

[00:22:37] if I ever have a child,

[00:22:39] I feel like Todd Boli will come and be like,

[00:22:40] here is 25 million pounds.

[00:22:41] I will be like,

[00:22:42] yeah,

[00:22:42] please take it.

[00:22:44] You give it.

[00:22:45] So,

[00:22:46] you know,

[00:22:47] he is,

[00:22:48] it is,

[00:22:48] it is a love affair,

[00:22:49] that is going to spectacularly fizzle out.

[00:22:53] Yeah.

[00:22:53] And the thing is,

[00:22:54] he has the potential to be like,

[00:22:56] one of the key players in any club he goes,

[00:22:58] because like you said,

[00:22:59] he has the talent.

[00:23:00] Yeah.

[00:23:00] But it's not really,

[00:23:02] sort of being delivered in the right way,

[00:23:04] even in,

[00:23:04] I mean like,

[00:23:05] especially in big top six matches,

[00:23:07] matches against these top six sides.

[00:23:09] If you go missing,

[00:23:10] I think that really,

[00:23:12] really shows that,

[00:23:14] that talks a lot about your character,

[00:23:17] and your nature as a player.

[00:23:18] Because if you go missing in big games,

[00:23:20] where you have to be the most important,

[00:23:21] then what's the point of playing him,

[00:23:24] right?

[00:23:24] Whereas Neto was excellent.

[00:23:26] Like,

[00:23:27] I think Neto probably,

[00:23:29] I think even if he was playing not that well,

[00:23:31] the fact that Sancho is almost rubbish,

[00:23:34] he was being seen,

[00:23:35] Neto was being seen as like,

[00:23:37] some superstar player yesterday.

[00:23:39] But yeah,

[00:23:39] Chelsea were great.

[00:23:40] And also the fact that now,

[00:23:41] Chelsea have other players as well,

[00:23:43] who are doing so good.

[00:23:44] Yeah.

[00:23:44] So it's not like,

[00:23:46] like you said,

[00:23:46] the honeymoon period wasn't going to last long,

[00:23:48] because others are going to steal the limelight,

[00:23:50] for the right reasons.

[00:23:51] Yeah.

[00:23:51] And there is definitely an English media bias.

[00:23:54] They do that with all players.

[00:23:55] Yeah.

[00:23:56] I mean,

[00:23:56] some Chelsea fan will come here and tell us,

[00:23:59] maybe the English media had a bias for Rashford,

[00:24:01] back in the day.

[00:24:02] Yeah.

[00:24:02] Or even for Luke Shaw,

[00:24:03] Maguire,

[00:24:03] blah,

[00:24:04] blah,

[00:24:04] blah.

[00:24:04] And they do have a bias,

[00:24:06] but it's like,

[00:24:07] when you do stories about,

[00:24:08] oh,

[00:24:08] he's smiling,

[00:24:09] he's finally happy.

[00:24:11] No,

[00:24:11] what is that?

[00:24:11] It's a clickbait at best.

[00:24:13] It is,

[00:24:13] it is full,

[00:24:14] full clickbait,

[00:24:15] for sure.

[00:24:16] Although having,

[00:24:17] just,

[00:24:17] just digressing a little bit and talking about the,

[00:24:20] the media bias,

[00:24:21] there was a,

[00:24:23] Paul Pogba's ban has been reduced to 18 months.

[00:24:25] So he can start training from January and start playing from March,

[00:24:28] I think if I'm not mistaken.

[00:24:29] So he did an interview with Sky Sports,

[00:24:32] just to kind of get the PR going about his return to football and all that.

[00:24:36] And the Sky Sports interviewer was talking to Paul Pogba about his time at Man United.

[00:24:42] And he was like,

[00:24:43] oh,

[00:24:43] you know,

[00:24:44] a lot of times,

[00:24:45] players were constantly criticized while you were there at Man United.

[00:24:49] So what was,

[00:24:50] what was going wrong?

[00:24:51] And you could see that Paul Pogba,

[00:24:54] while he's listening to the question,

[00:24:55] he has a big smile on his face.

[00:24:56] Like he's trying to hold back the laughter.

[00:24:58] He's,

[00:24:58] he's got a very knowing smile.

[00:25:00] And he's like,

[00:25:02] oh,

[00:25:02] which,

[00:25:03] which players were criticized?

[00:25:04] Oh,

[00:25:05] and the guy was like,

[00:25:07] you know,

[00:25:07] you were criticized very heavily.

[00:25:09] Jaden Sancho was criticized very heavily.

[00:25:11] Marcus Rashford was criticized very heavily.

[00:25:13] And Paul Pogba was just nodding,

[00:25:14] smiling and nodding.

[00:25:16] Like,

[00:25:16] okay.

[00:25:16] So what do you think was the problem?

[00:25:18] And Pogba's like,

[00:25:20] I don't know.

[00:25:20] What do you think was the problem?

[00:25:22] Do you want to name the players again?

[00:25:24] And he's like,

[00:25:25] yeah,

[00:25:26] he just named the players.

[00:25:27] I forgot who you said.

[00:25:28] Jaden Sancho,

[00:25:28] you and Marcus Rashford.

[00:25:30] So is it just the players or is it something else?

[00:25:33] You know?

[00:25:33] So there is,

[00:25:34] there is obviously that bias and it is,

[00:25:36] it is not even being hidden anymore.

[00:25:39] Right.

[00:25:39] Yeah.

[00:25:40] But you're always part of him to sort of put the question back on the journey.

[00:25:44] Yeah.

[00:25:44] Yeah.

[00:25:44] Very,

[00:25:44] very smartly.

[00:25:45] Put that person in on the spot.

[00:25:46] What are you going to say?

[00:25:48] Absolutely.

[00:25:48] Absolutely.

[00:25:49] Very well done by Paul Pogba.

[00:25:51] Right.

[00:25:51] So from there,

[00:25:52] we go to the United game,

[00:25:54] of course,

[00:25:55] United beating Brentford 2-1 at Old Trafford.

[00:25:58] There is an old football cliche that rings absolutely true for this game,

[00:26:02] which is it was a game of two halves.

[00:26:04] Because that first half,

[00:26:05] especially that first 20 minutes,

[00:26:09] United were nowhere near good enough.

[00:26:11] Like they were,

[00:26:13] they were there to be taken.

[00:26:15] They were like,

[00:26:15] Brentford,

[00:26:16] please come to our home.

[00:26:17] We will show you hospitality.

[00:26:18] You please take everything in.

[00:26:21] Because,

[00:26:22] oh,

[00:26:23] tiresome,

[00:26:24] tiresome to watch.

[00:26:25] Yeah.

[00:26:26] It was almost,

[00:26:28] okay.

[00:26:28] It was,

[00:26:28] it was boring.

[00:26:29] It was not almost boring.

[00:26:30] It was boring in the beginning and to the point,

[00:26:33] sort of alarming also where you would expect,

[00:26:36] you started sort of assuming,

[00:26:37] okay,

[00:26:37] maybe United could end up losing this because of how sort of they were lethargic in the first few minutes.

[00:26:43] And then suddenly,

[00:26:45] again,

[00:26:45] a lot of controversy there as well.

[00:26:47] Just conceding a goal before halftime,

[00:26:50] not something that you would have expected.

[00:26:51] Yeah.

[00:26:52] And then of course,

[00:26:53] the head injury that happened to Delecht and then the whole drama that happened.

[00:26:57] Yeah.

[00:26:57] So just to,

[00:26:58] just to,

[00:26:58] just to recap the drama that happened,

[00:27:00] Delecht had a head injury a little while ago where his head was bleeding.

[00:27:03] He was sent to the touchline to get treatment,

[00:27:06] which he did.

[00:27:08] And then he continued the game.

[00:27:10] And at the stroke of halftime,

[00:27:11] he was ordered off the pitch again to get treatment again.

[00:27:14] And he was protesting that he was like,

[00:27:17] I,

[00:27:17] it's not a fresh wound.

[00:27:19] It is just dried blood that is showing up.

[00:27:21] He has already received treatment,

[00:27:22] but he was still asked to go off.

[00:27:24] And in that moment when Brentford had a corner and United were down to 10 men

[00:27:28] is when Ethan Pinnock scored that powerful header.

[00:27:32] Now,

[00:27:33] Eric and Hague also mentioned this in the post-match.

[00:27:35] He was like,

[00:27:36] Oh,

[00:27:36] it was,

[00:27:37] it was ridiculous because in a moment like that,

[00:27:40] you need one of your better headers to be in the,

[00:27:43] in the game to protect us against that.

[00:27:47] And you could see some footage from the touchline where Delecht was absolutely

[00:27:51] pissed off when that goal,

[00:27:53] when he kicked the ball away,

[00:27:54] Rudvan Islter also got into it with the fourth official,

[00:27:57] got a card for it as well.

[00:28:00] And that is apparently what happened at halftime.

[00:28:05] And Ten Hag also said that,

[00:28:06] Oh,

[00:28:06] that the way that injury was handled made us angry.

[00:28:10] And then they come out in the second half and 47th minute Garnacho equalizes.

[00:28:14] Right.

[00:28:15] Yeah.

[00:28:16] And that's great as a United fan to see that change.

[00:28:20] But why can't you do that in the first half?

[00:28:23] Yeah.

[00:28:24] Yeah.

[00:28:25] Especially the injury.

[00:28:26] Okay.

[00:28:26] So he was sent off by the referee on two occasions before that third time

[00:28:31] United actually conceded.

[00:28:33] Yeah.

[00:28:34] So the first two times he was bleeding and he got medical attention.

[00:28:38] For some reason,

[00:28:38] they didn't stitch it up.

[00:28:40] Yeah.

[00:28:40] Which is why I think he was bleeding again,

[00:28:42] although Ten Hag said later was just dried blood.

[00:28:45] The point is,

[00:28:46] why are you not sort of getting it stitched?

[00:28:48] I think the reason there was,

[00:28:50] they were just sort of trying to play.

[00:28:52] I think it was the 40th minute.

[00:28:53] And again,

[00:28:54] the blood was pouring down and they were like,

[00:28:56] we'll just finish this.

[00:28:57] It's just five minutes.

[00:28:58] But I think that's the,

[00:29:00] that's the rule.

[00:29:00] You can't really do that.

[00:29:01] So the referee is like,

[00:29:02] go get it done.

[00:29:03] Yeah.

[00:29:04] And of course they are a man down,

[00:29:06] one with one of their best defenders on the touchline.

[00:29:08] Yeah.

[00:29:08] They conceded.

[00:29:10] But I mean,

[00:29:10] again,

[00:29:11] if they wouldn't have conceded,

[00:29:13] I don't think it would have sparked such a good.

[00:29:16] Yeah.

[00:29:16] Correct.

[00:29:17] For example,

[00:29:17] it was nil-nil.

[00:29:18] They wouldn't have necessarily been so aggressive.

[00:29:20] Yeah.

[00:29:20] They sort of needed that to trigger them.

[00:29:23] Yeah.

[00:29:23] And could it happen?

[00:29:24] But yeah,

[00:29:24] like you said,

[00:29:25] why is this not coming on its own?

[00:29:28] Like,

[00:29:28] where is this aggression not coming on its own?

[00:29:30] I mean,

[00:29:31] like,

[00:29:32] all I want to say is,

[00:29:33] if aggression or if triggers for aggression is all that you're looking for,

[00:29:38] then man,

[00:29:39] honestly,

[00:29:39] read the papers,

[00:29:41] read social media,

[00:29:42] read what everybody is saying about every one of you.

[00:29:45] People are calling Eric Tanak Takla.

[00:29:47] People are calling Bruno Fernandes a whiny little bitch.

[00:29:50] People are calling Marcus Rashford,

[00:29:52] Marcus Trashford.

[00:29:54] Like,

[00:29:54] show the players all of this

[00:29:55] and tell them that this is what people think of you.

[00:29:58] Do you believe this?

[00:29:59] Or do you want to show these people what you actually are?

[00:30:02] Good fucking players.

[00:30:04] Get them riled up with that shit.

[00:30:06] Yeah,

[00:30:07] I think,

[00:30:08] maybe if Tanak,

[00:30:09] you end up listening to this.

[00:30:11] Yeah.

[00:30:11] Amog has some words of wisdom for you.

[00:30:13] I mean,

[00:30:14] I know Eric Tanak listens to the podcast

[00:30:16] as most players and managers in the Premier League.

[00:30:18] So,

[00:30:19] you know,

[00:30:19] Eric,

[00:30:20] if you're wondering,

[00:30:21] if I'm free next weekend,

[00:30:22] I totally am.

[00:30:23] If you want me to come down to Manchester

[00:30:24] and be with you on the touchline,

[00:30:26] I'm ready to do that

[00:30:27] for the greater good of the club.

[00:30:30] But yeah,

[00:30:31] so,

[00:30:31] but it was a fantastic performance in second half.

[00:30:33] Garnacho's goal was brilliant.

[00:30:35] That pass by Rashford

[00:30:37] was pinpoint.

[00:30:39] Like,

[00:30:39] that is a dream pass.

[00:30:41] That is a dream cross

[00:30:43] which,

[00:30:44] again,

[00:30:45] finished really well.

[00:30:46] Garnacho,

[00:30:46] again,

[00:30:46] looked extremely good throughout the game.

[00:30:49] He was,

[00:30:49] he was

[00:30:50] making a lot

[00:30:53] of chances for United.

[00:30:54] He was causing all sorts of trouble

[00:30:56] for the Brentford defense

[00:30:58] and the winner by Hoyland.

[00:31:00] Again,

[00:31:00] Bruno with a sublime flick.

[00:31:03] Yeah,

[00:31:03] I just hope,

[00:31:04] I just hope that

[00:31:06] this shuts people up for a little bit.

[00:31:09] Especially the people

[00:31:10] who've been criticizing Bruno Fernandes

[00:31:11] for his lack of form.

[00:31:13] I just hope those ungrateful bastards

[00:31:15] can go

[00:31:16] fuck themselves

[00:31:17] for a little while.

[00:31:19] Because

[00:31:19] he has been

[00:31:20] the most consistent player

[00:31:22] that United have had

[00:31:23] for the last three seasons or more.

[00:31:26] He is the captain.

[00:31:27] You know,

[00:31:27] he is not the kind of player

[00:31:30] to fuck about.

[00:31:31] He works with his own work.

[00:31:34] If his form dip

[00:31:36] so aggressively

[00:31:37] you are turning against him,

[00:31:39] it's shameful.

[00:31:41] And

[00:31:42] fuck all of those guys.

[00:31:43] I want to see

[00:31:43] all of their reactions now

[00:31:44] what they're calling

[00:31:45] Bruno Fernandes now.

[00:31:47] Yeah,

[00:31:48] especially those who have

[00:31:49] him in the FPL team

[00:31:50] suddenly points

[00:31:51] they would have not expected.

[00:31:53] But what an assist.

[00:31:54] So beautiful.

[00:31:55] And I think it

[00:31:55] was a great team move

[00:31:57] as well.

[00:31:57] Yes.

[00:31:58] I'm very sure even

[00:31:58] Ten Hag is going to be

[00:31:59] really happy with it.

[00:32:00] The whole

[00:32:01] I think

[00:32:02] as soon as the second half

[00:32:03] started

[00:32:04] it was like

[00:32:04] wait

[00:32:05] have we switched on

[00:32:06] a different game?

[00:32:07] Yeah.

[00:32:07] Because suddenly

[00:32:08] it's so

[00:32:09] it was so fun

[00:32:10] it was so fast

[00:32:11] it was so intense.

[00:32:13] And even both the goals

[00:32:14] was really good.

[00:32:15] Like the finish

[00:32:15] both Bahoyland

[00:32:16] and Garnaccio

[00:32:17] really good.

[00:32:17] Garnaccio in fact

[00:32:18] also had chances

[00:32:19] apart from that goal.

[00:32:21] Lots of chances.

[00:32:21] Yeah.

[00:32:22] And like it happens

[00:32:23] in all games

[00:32:23] once you go

[00:32:24] once you score one

[00:32:26] like the first time

[00:32:27] or even equalize

[00:32:28] your confidence

[00:32:29] just rises.

[00:32:30] Yeah.

[00:32:30] And of course

[00:32:31] they had the support

[00:32:32] of thousands of fans

[00:32:33] there which also

[00:32:34] helps you psychologically.

[00:32:36] Yeah.

[00:32:36] Yeah.

[00:32:37] And especially getting

[00:32:37] that goal early on

[00:32:38] in the second half

[00:32:39] also played a key part

[00:32:40] because the earlier

[00:32:41] you equalize

[00:32:41] the more confidence

[00:32:43] that you have

[00:32:43] that yes

[00:32:44] you can get

[00:32:44] something out of this game.

[00:32:45] But yeah

[00:32:46] very very happy

[00:32:47] for Hoyland

[00:32:47] very happy

[00:32:48] for Garnaccio

[00:32:48] very happy

[00:32:48] for Rashford

[00:32:49] and Bruno as well.

[00:32:50] I think everybody

[00:32:50] played their part

[00:32:52] everybody played well

[00:32:53] and I just hope

[00:32:55] that this is the

[00:32:56] turning point

[00:32:56] and with Ten Hag

[00:32:58] and the team

[00:32:59] can actually build

[00:33:00] from this

[00:33:00] because we've got

[00:33:02] Fenerbahce

[00:33:02] in the Europa League

[00:33:03] next

[00:33:03] a visit to Jose's

[00:33:05] stomping ground

[00:33:06] which is very

[00:33:08] very intimidating

[00:33:09] as a United fan

[00:33:10] and I don't know

[00:33:10] what's going to happen

[00:33:11] there

[00:33:11] and our Europa League

[00:33:12] campaign has been

[00:33:13] far from optimal

[00:33:15] so let's see

[00:33:16] how that goes

[00:33:17] but at least

[00:33:18] Premier League season

[00:33:19] should get back

[00:33:20] on track

[00:33:20] after this.

[00:33:21] A team that's

[00:33:23] really blowing

[00:33:24] hot and cold

[00:33:24] in the Premier League

[00:33:26] is Spurs

[00:33:27] and also West Ham

[00:33:29] because you would

[00:33:31] have thought

[00:33:31] that Lopetegui

[00:33:32] under West Ham

[00:33:33] would really

[00:33:34] really start

[00:33:35] moving up

[00:33:37] to the next level

[00:33:37] especially after Mois

[00:33:38] and with Spurs

[00:33:40] you know that

[00:33:40] Angebal is

[00:33:41] really fantastic

[00:33:43] but sometimes

[00:33:44] it fizzles out

[00:33:44] so dramatically

[00:33:46] but this was

[00:33:47] one of those

[00:33:47] games

[00:33:48] Spurs 4

[00:33:48] West Ham

[00:33:49] 1

[00:33:49] where Angebal

[00:33:50] was at its

[00:33:51] peak

[00:33:51] and I think

[00:33:52] a lot of it

[00:33:53] was down to the

[00:33:53] fact that

[00:33:54] Jungmin Son

[00:33:54] was back.

[00:33:55] 100%

[00:33:56] I think

[00:33:56] it was pretty

[00:33:57] much clear

[00:33:58] as soon as

[00:33:59] he comes back

[00:33:59] he's everywhere

[00:34:00] on the

[00:34:00] score sheet

[00:34:01] he's assisting

[00:34:02] he's scoring

[00:34:04] and what not

[00:34:05] so yeah

[00:34:06] I think it

[00:34:06] makes a big

[00:34:07] of a difference

[00:34:08] for any

[00:34:08] manager

[00:34:08] he's a very

[00:34:09] important player

[00:34:10] in the team

[00:34:12] and Posto

[00:34:13] Guglou

[00:34:13] is no

[00:34:13] exception

[00:34:15] so yeah

[00:34:15] and I mean

[00:34:16] like you said

[00:34:17] they've been

[00:34:18] hot and cold

[00:34:18] I didn't see

[00:34:19] that result

[00:34:20] coming

[00:34:20] sure they

[00:34:21] would have

[00:34:21] beaten

[00:34:22] but with

[00:34:22] that score

[00:34:23] line

[00:34:23] 4-1

[00:34:24] and it was

[00:34:24] manic

[00:34:25] at that time

[00:34:26] when it

[00:34:26] happened

[00:34:27] 2-1

[00:34:28] 2-1

[00:34:28] wouldn't have

[00:34:29] guessed it

[00:34:29] but good

[00:34:30] for Spurs

[00:34:31] I think

[00:34:31] good for Spurs

[00:34:31] it was a

[00:34:32] home win

[00:34:33] right

[00:34:33] so yeah

[00:34:33] against a

[00:34:34] London rival

[00:34:36] yeah

[00:34:36] they climb up

[00:34:38] to 7th place

[00:34:39] now 1 point

[00:34:40] behind Chelsea

[00:34:40] in 6th place

[00:34:41] so they are

[00:34:42] on their way

[00:34:42] up

[00:34:43] the thing is

[00:34:44] and this is

[00:34:45] what worries me

[00:34:45] if I were a Spurs

[00:34:46] fan

[00:34:46] if I were

[00:34:47] looking at this

[00:34:47] I would be

[00:34:47] like yes

[00:34:48] Angebal is

[00:34:49] lovely to watch

[00:34:51] but it's also

[00:34:53] becoming clear

[00:34:54] that Son

[00:34:55] is a big

[00:34:56] part of this

[00:34:56] that the team

[00:34:57] is still being

[00:34:58] built around

[00:34:59] Son

[00:34:59] and when he's

[00:35:01] there in the

[00:35:01] attack when he's

[00:35:02] leading the line

[00:35:04] with Brennan

[00:35:05] Johnson and

[00:35:05] Dominic Solanke

[00:35:06] there is a lot

[00:35:07] more attacking

[00:35:08] threat

[00:35:08] but Son

[00:35:09] is not getting

[00:35:10] any younger

[00:35:10] he is 30

[00:35:11] plus now

[00:35:12] so what

[00:35:13] is Ange's

[00:35:14] contingency

[00:35:15] and this is

[00:35:16] a question

[00:35:17] that I'm asking

[00:35:17] of a manager

[00:35:18] who very famously

[00:35:19] does not have

[00:35:20] contingency plans

[00:35:20] he does not

[00:35:21] have plan B's

[00:35:22] he's very

[00:35:22] very dogmatic

[00:35:23] about which

[00:35:24] style of football

[00:35:25] he's going to

[00:35:26] play and

[00:35:26] regardless of

[00:35:27] the situation

[00:35:27] that is the

[00:35:28] style of football

[00:35:29] that he's going

[00:35:29] to play

[00:35:29] so how does

[00:35:31] he account

[00:35:32] for Son's

[00:35:33] eventual

[00:35:35] absence from

[00:35:36] Spurs

[00:35:36] whether it is

[00:35:37] through injury

[00:35:38] through a

[00:35:39] transfer or

[00:35:39] whatever it

[00:35:40] may be

[00:35:41] I think then

[00:35:42] the solution

[00:35:43] to this is

[00:35:44] probably start

[00:35:44] working on

[00:35:45] your squad

[00:35:45] depth

[00:35:45] but I don't

[00:35:46] know if

[00:35:47] right now is

[00:35:48] the time he's

[00:35:48] going to do

[00:35:49] it

[00:35:49] plus I am

[00:35:51] not sure

[00:35:51] if he's

[00:35:52] looking at

[00:35:52] a long

[00:35:54] term span

[00:35:55] at Spurs

[00:35:55] I may be

[00:35:56] wrong with

[00:35:56] this

[00:35:56] because you

[00:35:58] and I

[00:35:58] might be

[00:35:59] sitting here

[00:35:59] and thinking

[00:36:00] oh what's

[00:36:00] he going to

[00:36:00] do about

[00:36:01] Sonny

[00:36:01] but for

[00:36:02] all you

[00:36:03] know he's

[00:36:03] just thinking

[00:36:03] about

[00:36:04] let's

[00:36:04] season

[00:36:06] what am I

[00:36:07] going to

[00:36:07] do about

[00:36:08] Crystal Palace

[00:36:08] next week

[00:36:09] yeah exactly

[00:36:10] like for

[00:36:11] I mean he

[00:36:12] must be

[00:36:12] just happy

[00:36:13] he has one

[00:36:13] of his best

[00:36:14] players back

[00:36:15] because otherwise

[00:36:16] it's just going

[00:36:17] to be downhill

[00:36:18] so it's good

[00:36:19] but it is

[00:36:20] alarming like

[00:36:20] you said that

[00:36:21] if you're

[00:36:22] going to depend

[00:36:22] on an

[00:36:23] let's say

[00:36:24] aging player

[00:36:24] for a long

[00:36:26] time then

[00:36:27] yeah it's

[00:36:27] going to be

[00:36:28] difficult

[00:36:28] so I

[00:36:29] have a

[00:36:29] thought on

[00:36:29] this which

[00:36:30] is they

[00:36:33] should probably

[00:36:34] look at

[00:36:35] Eberichi as

[00:36:36] a

[00:36:37] okay

[00:36:38] he's a

[00:36:40] slightly

[00:36:40] different

[00:36:40] player from

[00:36:41] Son

[00:36:41] obviously

[00:36:42] but I

[00:36:43] feel like

[00:36:44] he can

[00:36:44] be that

[00:36:45] attacking

[00:36:46] focal point

[00:36:47] that Spurs

[00:36:48] can build

[00:36:49] their next

[00:36:49] squad around

[00:36:51] whether

[00:36:52] they'll

[00:36:53] have

[00:36:54] enough

[00:36:54] to lure

[00:36:56] him from

[00:36:56] Crystal Palace

[00:36:57] to the

[00:36:58] Tottenham Hotspur

[00:36:59] Stadium

[00:36:59] I do not

[00:37:00] know

[00:37:00] considering that

[00:37:01] all the other

[00:37:02] big clubs are

[00:37:03] also very very

[00:37:04] heavily interested

[00:37:04] in him

[00:37:05] but if they

[00:37:06] manage to get

[00:37:07] SA

[00:37:07] I think

[00:37:09] that would

[00:37:10] be a very

[00:37:11] very good

[00:37:11] signing to Spurs

[00:37:12] I think

[00:37:13] they can

[00:37:14] sort of

[00:37:15] attract him

[00:37:15] because

[00:37:17] it comes

[00:37:17] down to

[00:37:18] how much

[00:37:18] playing time

[00:37:19] he will get

[00:37:19] at the other

[00:37:20] clubs

[00:37:20] if you end

[00:37:20] up getting

[00:37:21] more playing

[00:37:21] time at

[00:37:22] Spurs

[00:37:22] that's

[00:37:23] technically

[00:37:23] more beneficial

[00:37:24] for you

[00:37:24] rather than

[00:37:25] just having

[00:37:25] some

[00:37:26] glimpses

[00:37:26] of magic

[00:37:27] here and

[00:37:27] there

[00:37:28] and especially

[00:37:30] for Eze

[00:37:31] who's

[00:37:31] currently

[00:37:32] breaking into

[00:37:32] the English

[00:37:33] team as

[00:37:33] well

[00:37:33] so

[00:37:34] for

[00:37:35] national

[00:37:35] team

[00:37:36] prospects

[00:37:36] I think

[00:37:36] it also

[00:37:37] makes sense

[00:37:37] to have

[00:37:38] a move

[00:37:39] to a club

[00:37:40] where you

[00:37:40] are going

[00:37:41] to get

[00:37:41] more

[00:37:41] playing

[00:37:41] time

[00:37:42] but

[00:37:42] okay

[00:37:43] I'll pose

[00:37:43] a question

[00:37:44] to you

[00:37:44] in that

[00:37:44] case

[00:37:45] when do

[00:37:45] you see

[00:37:45] Son

[00:37:46] sort of

[00:37:47] I mean

[00:37:47] us reaching

[00:37:48] the stage

[00:37:49] where Son

[00:37:49] has to be

[00:37:50] replaced

[00:37:50] how soon

[00:37:51] or late

[00:37:52] I think

[00:37:54] he's got

[00:37:54] two seasons

[00:37:55] in him

[00:37:55] in the

[00:37:56] Premier League

[00:37:57] at the

[00:37:58] highest level

[00:37:59] and I feel

[00:38:00] like next

[00:38:01] season

[00:38:01] is going

[00:38:02] to be

[00:38:02] the season

[00:38:03] where

[00:38:03] he will

[00:38:04] not be

[00:38:04] able to

[00:38:05] start

[00:38:05] every game

[00:38:06] because

[00:38:07] I feel

[00:38:08] like

[00:38:08] he is

[00:38:10] I wouldn't

[00:38:11] say

[00:38:11] rapidly

[00:38:12] on the

[00:38:12] decline

[00:38:13] but he's

[00:38:14] not as

[00:38:15] dangerous

[00:38:16] as he

[00:38:16] was

[00:38:18] in that

[00:38:19] you know

[00:38:19] legendary

[00:38:20] Harry Kane

[00:38:21] led team

[00:38:22] where Kane

[00:38:23] and Son

[00:38:23] were the

[00:38:24] go-to

[00:38:24] guys

[00:38:26] and I

[00:38:26] think that

[00:38:27] is when

[00:38:27] he was

[00:38:27] 27-28

[00:38:29] he's not

[00:38:30] that lethal

[00:38:31] anymore

[00:38:31] and of

[00:38:32] course I

[00:38:32] know that

[00:38:33] I'm saying

[00:38:33] this when

[00:38:33] he's got

[00:38:34] two goals

[00:38:34] and an

[00:38:34] assist in

[00:38:35] the previous

[00:38:35] game

[00:38:36] almost a

[00:38:37] hat-trick

[00:38:37] as well

[00:38:38] so I

[00:38:39] understand

[00:38:39] how this

[00:38:40] is completely

[00:38:41] bad timing

[00:38:42] but

[00:38:43] realistically

[00:38:44] speaking I

[00:38:44] feel like

[00:38:45] next season

[00:38:46] if they

[00:38:46] get as

[00:38:47] a in

[00:38:48] then they

[00:38:49] can transition

[00:38:50] into a

[00:38:52] squad built

[00:38:52] around SA

[00:38:53] very very

[00:38:54] fluently

[00:38:56] rather than

[00:38:58] running around

[00:38:59] helter-skelter

[00:38:59] because Son

[00:39:00] is not

[00:39:00] working out

[00:39:01] and now

[00:39:02] they need to

[00:39:02] find a

[00:39:03] solution

[00:39:04] and they're

[00:39:05] desperately

[00:39:05] looking all

[00:39:06] over the

[00:39:06] market

[00:39:06] if they

[00:39:06] actually

[00:39:07] played smart

[00:39:08] then they

[00:39:09] are startling

[00:39:09] the groundwork

[00:39:10] to get

[00:39:11] SA into

[00:39:12] Spurs

[00:39:13] next season

[00:39:13] I think he

[00:39:15] will play at

[00:39:15] least two

[00:39:16] more seasons

[00:39:17] like you

[00:39:17] said

[00:39:17] because the

[00:39:18] 2026 World

[00:39:19] Cup would

[00:39:20] be around

[00:39:20] that time

[00:39:20] so I

[00:39:21] think he

[00:39:21] would want

[00:39:21] to have

[00:39:22] playing time

[00:39:22] to play

[00:39:23] for South

[00:39:23] Korea

[00:39:24] in that

[00:39:25] if you go

[00:39:26] by that

[00:39:26] then I

[00:39:27] don't think

[00:39:27] Spurs will

[00:39:28] probably look at

[00:39:29] replacing him

[00:39:30] as soon as

[00:39:30] next season

[00:39:31] that's true

[00:39:33] is what I

[00:39:34] feel

[00:39:34] because again

[00:39:35] you might

[00:39:36] I mean

[00:39:37] it comes down

[00:39:38] to funds

[00:39:38] then making

[00:39:39] changes to

[00:39:40] your plans

[00:39:40] and also

[00:39:41] your manager

[00:39:42] has not

[00:39:42] been at the

[00:39:43] club for a

[00:39:43] very long

[00:39:44] time

[00:39:44] so I

[00:39:46] don't know

[00:39:46] could be

[00:39:47] could be

[00:39:47] a good

[00:39:47] shot

[00:39:48] we'll

[00:39:48] probably

[00:39:48] come back

[00:39:48] to this

[00:39:49] in two

[00:39:49] years

[00:39:49] I have a

[00:39:50] good feeling

[00:39:50] you could

[00:39:51] be right

[00:39:51] we'll see

[00:39:52] what happens

[00:39:53] we'll clip

[00:39:53] this and

[00:39:54] we'll see

[00:39:55] who's right

[00:39:56] who's wrong

[00:39:57] who's close

[00:39:58] enough

[00:39:59] before we go

[00:39:59] final game

[00:40:00] that we should

[00:40:00] quickly talk

[00:40:01] about is

[00:40:01] Wolves 1

[00:40:02] Man City 2

[00:40:04] everything that

[00:40:05] United were known

[00:40:06] for in the

[00:40:06] Ferguson era

[00:40:07] about being

[00:40:08] a championship

[00:40:09] winning team

[00:40:09] a consistent

[00:40:10] winning machine

[00:40:11] who always

[00:40:13] win it

[00:40:13] no matter

[00:40:14] what

[00:40:14] regardless

[00:40:14] of how

[00:40:15] they play

[00:40:15] and even

[00:40:17] at the end

[00:40:18] if they're

[00:40:18] trailing or

[00:40:19] they're just

[00:40:20] drawing the

[00:40:21] game

[00:40:21] you always

[00:40:22] expect them

[00:40:23] to score

[00:40:23] and it hurts

[00:40:24] my heart

[00:40:25] to say the

[00:40:26] same about

[00:40:27] Man City

[00:40:28] but as soon

[00:40:29] as Wolves

[00:40:30] score that

[00:40:30] first goal

[00:40:31] which was

[00:40:31] again a

[00:40:32] lovely

[00:40:32] lovely goal

[00:40:34] you know

[00:40:35] that City

[00:40:35] are going

[00:40:35] to get

[00:40:36] back in

[00:40:36] and it's

[00:40:38] it's almost

[00:40:38] it's

[00:40:40] it's

[00:40:41] embarrassing

[00:40:42] and it's

[00:40:43] almost like

[00:40:43] a joke

[00:40:44] it's a

[00:40:44] parody now

[00:40:46] that Man City

[00:40:47] are equalizing

[00:40:48] and then winning

[00:40:49] through their

[00:40:49] two center

[00:40:50] defenders

[00:40:50] yeah

[00:40:51] like Guardiola

[00:40:52] equalizing

[00:40:53] and then

[00:40:53] John Stone

[00:40:54] scoring in the

[00:40:55] 95th minute

[00:40:55] to win it

[00:40:56] for them

[00:40:56] it's just

[00:40:57] it's Guardiola

[00:40:58] taking the

[00:40:59] piss

[00:40:59] it's like

[00:41:00] we don't

[00:41:01] even need

[00:41:02] Harlick

[00:41:03] we don't

[00:41:04] need De Bruyne

[00:41:05] we don't

[00:41:06] need your

[00:41:06] fucking

[00:41:07] Phil Foden

[00:41:07] our center

[00:41:09] halves are

[00:41:09] only good

[00:41:09] enough

[00:41:10] yeah

[00:41:10] they might

[00:41:11] be one of

[00:41:11] the very

[00:41:12] few teams

[00:41:12] who can

[00:41:13] get results

[00:41:15] even when

[00:41:15] their main

[00:41:16] player is

[00:41:16] I mean

[00:41:17] not firing

[00:41:17] yeah

[00:41:22] it's just

[00:41:23] they're like

[00:41:24] how you say

[00:41:25] they're

[00:41:25] pain

[00:41:26] it's like

[00:41:27] they're being

[00:41:27] painfully good

[00:41:28] yeah

[00:41:30] they're awfully

[00:41:31] nice

[00:41:31] something on

[00:41:32] those lines

[00:41:32] but again

[00:41:33] a lot of

[00:41:33] controversy

[00:41:34] even in

[00:41:34] their game

[00:41:35] like this

[00:41:35] weekend was

[00:41:36] more controversy

[00:41:37] less football

[00:41:37] is what I

[00:41:38] realized

[00:41:38] exactly

[00:41:39] so let's

[00:41:40] let's talk

[00:41:40] about that

[00:41:40] because the

[00:41:41] controversy

[00:41:41] was about

[00:41:42] John Stones'

[00:41:42] goal

[00:41:44] and the

[00:41:45] controversy

[00:41:45] was that

[00:41:46] Bernardo Silva

[00:41:46] was in an

[00:41:47] offside position

[00:41:48] in the line

[00:41:50] of the keeper

[00:41:51] so he was

[00:41:52] obstructing the

[00:41:53] keeper's view

[00:41:53] which would

[00:41:54] have made

[00:41:54] him

[00:41:55] offside

[00:41:57] but

[00:41:58] that was

[00:41:58] overturned

[00:41:59] by VAR

[00:41:59] because the

[00:42:00] goal was

[00:42:01] disallowed

[00:42:02] by the

[00:42:02] on-field

[00:42:03] referee

[00:42:03] and then

[00:42:04] VAR

[00:42:05] overturned it

[00:42:05] and this

[00:42:06] was what

[00:42:07] the Premier

[00:42:07] League

[00:42:08] match

[00:42:08] center

[00:42:08] tweeted

[00:42:08] so this

[00:42:09] is an

[00:42:09] official

[00:42:09] view

[00:42:10] on this

[00:42:10] they said

[00:42:10] that

[00:42:11] Stones'

[00:42:12] goal was

[00:42:12] disallowed

[00:42:12] on-field

[00:42:13] due to

[00:42:13] Bernardo Silva

[00:42:14] being in

[00:42:14] an offside

[00:42:15] position

[00:42:15] and in

[00:42:16] the

[00:42:16] goalkeeper's

[00:42:16] line of

[00:42:17] vision

[00:42:17] the

[00:42:17] VAR

[00:42:18] deemed

[00:42:19] Bernardo Silva

[00:42:19] wasn't in

[00:42:20] the line

[00:42:20] of vision

[00:42:21] and had

[00:42:21] no impact

[00:42:22] on the

[00:42:23] goalkeeper

[00:42:23] and recommended

[00:42:25] an on-field

[00:42:25] review

[00:42:26] the referee

[00:42:27] overturned his

[00:42:27] original decision

[00:42:28] and a goal

[00:42:29] was awarded

[00:42:31] your thoughts

[00:42:32] yeah I was

[00:42:33] just going

[00:42:34] through the

[00:42:34] replays again

[00:42:35] because during

[00:42:35] that time

[00:42:36] I didn't

[00:42:36] really catch

[00:42:37] it

[00:42:38] so there's

[00:42:39] two problems

[00:42:40] in this

[00:42:40] the first one

[00:42:41] is that

[00:42:42] we are only

[00:42:43] checked for

[00:42:44] if Bernardo Silva

[00:42:46] was offside

[00:42:46] they never

[00:42:47] checked if

[00:42:48] there was a

[00:42:48] foul because

[00:42:49] if you see

[00:42:49] the replay

[00:42:49] he nudged

[00:42:50] the keeper

[00:42:51] exactly

[00:42:51] so that

[00:42:52] can be a

[00:42:53] foul but

[00:42:53] VAR

[00:42:54] didn't see

[00:42:54] they were

[00:42:55] just trying

[00:42:55] to see

[00:42:55] if he

[00:42:56] was in

[00:42:56] the line

[00:42:57] of vision

[00:42:57] and to

[00:42:58] be fair

[00:42:58] he wasn't

[00:42:59] the line

[00:43:00] of vision

[00:43:01] initially

[00:43:01] but while

[00:43:02] the ball

[00:43:02] was played

[00:43:03] he sort

[00:43:03] of ducked

[00:43:03] down

[00:43:04] so he's

[00:43:05] not obstructing

[00:43:05] the keeper

[00:43:06] and that's

[00:43:07] fine like

[00:43:08] I agree

[00:43:09] but literally

[00:43:10] a few seconds

[00:43:11] later like

[00:43:11] he sort of

[00:43:12] nudged the

[00:43:12] keeper and

[00:43:13] the keeper

[00:43:13] loses his

[00:43:14] footing which

[00:43:15] is why

[00:43:15] he's not

[00:43:15] able to

[00:43:15] save the

[00:43:16] header

[00:43:16] yeah

[00:43:17] what happened

[00:43:18] to that

[00:43:18] yeah so

[00:43:19] I mean

[00:43:21] again this

[00:43:21] is one of

[00:43:22] those handwriting

[00:43:22] was not

[00:43:23] good which

[00:43:23] is why

[00:43:24] marks are cut

[00:43:24] because

[00:43:26] he's you're

[00:43:26] right he's

[00:43:27] not obstructing

[00:43:27] the keeper's

[00:43:28] line of

[00:43:28] vision but

[00:43:29] he is

[00:43:30] obstructing

[00:43:31] the keeper

[00:43:32] like

[00:43:34] in other ways

[00:43:35] it's almost

[00:43:36] like he's

[00:43:36] pushing the

[00:43:37] keeper but

[00:43:38] you can see

[00:43:39] bro you can see

[00:43:39] then I haven't

[00:43:41] done anything wrong

[00:43:41] I mean how is

[00:43:43] I mean

[00:43:44] I was

[00:43:44] understanding

[00:43:45] how is line

[00:43:46] of vision a

[00:43:47] bigger problem

[00:43:47] than him

[00:43:48] nudging the

[00:43:48] keeper

[00:43:49] yeah

[00:43:49] line of vision

[00:43:50] debatable

[00:43:51] nudging the

[00:43:51] keeper

[00:43:52] everybody can

[00:43:52] see

[00:43:54] so it was

[00:43:55] weird and also

[00:43:56] funnier because

[00:43:57] it was

[00:43:58] disallowed by the

[00:43:59] on-field referee

[00:44:00] and the

[00:44:01] VR has

[00:44:02] overturned it

[00:44:03] yeah

[00:44:03] I would have

[00:44:04] on any other

[00:44:04] day if you were

[00:44:05] telling me about

[00:44:06] this match as a

[00:44:07] like in hindsight

[00:44:08] I would be like

[00:44:09] buddy isn't it

[00:44:10] supposed to be

[00:44:10] the other way

[00:44:11] around in most

[00:44:12] matches right

[00:44:12] yeah

[00:44:13] exactly like

[00:44:14] again like I

[00:44:15] feel like if they

[00:44:16] would have cut to

[00:44:16] the actual VR

[00:44:17] room you might

[00:44:19] have seen some

[00:44:20] people with a

[00:44:21] gun or something

[00:44:22] behind the

[00:44:24] referee

[00:44:24] I was paying

[00:44:25] attention to it

[00:44:26] so seriously

[00:44:27] until you come

[00:44:28] out of that

[00:44:30] actually

[00:44:31] actually referee

[00:44:31] I think your

[00:44:32] on-field decision

[00:44:33] needs a TV

[00:44:34] review

[00:44:34] I am saying

[00:44:35] I need to

[00:44:37] talk to my

[00:44:38] wife and

[00:44:38] kids

[00:44:40] so yeah

[00:44:41] but yes

[00:44:42] on that note

[00:44:42] it is time to

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