Liverpool's Solulu is Delulu

[00:00:01] Liverpool's title race is over and Klopp had a little tiff with Salah. Welcome to The Corner Flag, I'm Amogh.

[00:00:06] I am Prashant.

[00:00:07] No, I'm Mukesh.

[00:00:18] A very sad sounding and sad looking Mukesh Manju Nath in this edition of The Corner Flag.

[00:00:23] So welcome. You might hear a little spring in my step and a little excitement in my voice because

[00:00:28] regardless of what happens with Manchester United, I think the season now for us is all about taking joy from the misery of others

[00:00:38] and with everything that is happening with Liverpool.

[00:00:41] I am having a lot of fun.

[00:00:44] Yeah, Amogh, I'm going to take tips from you on how to deal with...

[00:00:49] On how to deflect?

[00:00:54] And how to find joy in the misery of others.

[00:00:56] I was kind of hoping that all three of us would be equally miserable but clearly I am the most miserable on this episode.

[00:01:05] That is because you had a glimpse of what could have been with United. There has never been a glimpse of that.

[00:01:15] So we don't care. We don't care.

[00:01:18] No, I'm also actually in a very good mood because yesterday which was Monday night and for those of you who are going to listen to this later today or whenever you listen to this in the week.

[00:01:31] We are recording on a Tuesday morning which is what we usually don't do but we couldn't record last night because last night I was at the Mumbai football arena for the second leg of the semi-final of the ISL between Mumbai City and FC Goa.

[00:01:46] Of course, first leg was a fantastic game because Goa were leading 2-0 and in the last six minutes of stoppage time, Mumbai scored three goals and won the leg 3-2.

[00:01:59] And last night was the return leg at the Mumbai football arena and we beat Goa 2-0 in a very, very controlled display of football.

[00:02:09] Fantastic stuff. Mumbai now go to the ISL finals which will take place in Kolkata on the 4th of May against Mohan Bagan Supergiant.

[00:02:17] So that's going to be fantastic. Hopefully we can stop them from doing the league shield and title double.

[00:02:25] Yeah, I'm really upset because Hyderabad is way out and now Liverpool is way out. So I'm just happy.

[00:02:32] I'm going to pretend to be happy while you're happy. That's it. Yeah, Mumbai.

[00:02:36] I think you should follow Inter Milan.

[00:02:42] Seria, they are also winning titles. See, there is nothing going on in Premier League or ISL for this season.

[00:02:49] So I think Seria is going to win. Let's go Inter Milan.

[00:02:54] Inter national.

[00:02:59] Right, so let's get into it. Let's hit you where it hurts immediately on this lovely, lovely, lovely Tuesday morning.

[00:03:07] Liverpool to West Ham too. Some terrible results for Liverpool because midweek again there was a 2-0 defeat to Everton which was great.

[00:03:16] Akarsh coming out of hibernation on the WhatsApp group and being like, what?

[00:03:20] Everton won and then laughing at your face and then going back into hibernation was fantastic for all of us to see.

[00:03:26] But things are not looking good man for Liverpool. How has it unraveled so fast?

[00:03:31] How has it unraveled so fast? I don't know.

[00:03:36] I really don't know.

[00:03:41] Which is fantastic for a podcast where we're supposed to talk about football and all that.

[00:03:46] I don't know. That's a great answer to a question.

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[00:04:02] Can't a guy just be upset and not talk and go into radio silence forever?

[00:04:09] No. I think couple of things. I think Jota got injured which was again, he was fit for two weeks and everyone's expecting that in this final run,

[00:04:19] he would be fit and then therefore you could push for the title.

[00:04:23] But I think what happened was that he is gone so we have to rely on someone like Nunez who is now let's face it.

[00:04:30] That guy is not going to finish.

[00:04:34] Like he's not going to finish. We've been unlucky with Jota, we've been terrible.

[00:04:38] The fact that we had to depend on Gakpo and Nunez were probably not at the level where they can push for titles yet.

[00:04:45] It's not good news. And I think Liverpool just hit the post so many times man.

[00:04:50] There's so bad at shooting and just hitting the post. I think they've hit 24 times somewhere.

[00:04:55] So it's very miles clear of second place and the number of times they've hit the post.

[00:04:59] And it's clearly a case of not scoring enough goals.

[00:05:04] And I think you know, I do feel like Liverpool have defended well this season.

[00:05:08] Of course, letting two against Everton scrimmage but I do feel like that was the pressure.

[00:05:11] But had they probably been one little ahead or even two ahead, they wouldn't have let to win.

[00:05:15] And so they lost mentality-wise at Everton.

[00:05:20] But I think Liverpool just haven't been clinical and of course you can blame it on a little bit of bad luck

[00:05:25] and some terrible refereeing that has gone against Liverpool in some very, very big games.

[00:05:30] But I think irrespective if you take just that one, like if you take game by game,

[00:05:35] whether it was West Ham Crystal Palace, United and Everton,

[00:05:43] Liverpool just need to be finishing so much better like and everybody right.

[00:05:48] Salah has not been the same discipline as Hamstring.

[00:05:50] So I would say it's, if last season we capitulated because of defensive errors,

[00:05:56] I think this season it's been the attackers who've gone missing in the most important stretch of the league,

[00:06:04] which is the last quarter.

[00:06:07] Yeah.

[00:06:08] Let's go over to Salah then because...

[00:06:10] Sorry, what? See before the season we weren't even expected to finish

[00:06:15] get Champions League football but back in Champions League,

[00:06:18] well yeah come on and the way to Liverpool because Liverpool finished 8th to something last season

[00:06:23] and then we signed only like and we got Bellingham didn't come and he was supposed to come.

[00:06:28] Right? And we got, we signed Wataro Endo who was like this nobody at that point of time.

[00:06:34] He's not nobody now. He's nobody minus three.

[00:06:38] So yeah, Liverpool had low expectations so I think Liverpool hands if you...

[00:06:43] And we didn't know that Klopp was going to go and I still feel like it is a big error for Klopp to reveal at mid-season.

[00:06:48] I'm pretty much exactly mid-season.

[00:06:50] So yeah, I think a bunch of bad calls below bad luck but overall if you'd asked me like last beginning of the season

[00:06:58] like hey a trophy and Champions League football with Klopp going

[00:07:03] but everybody pretty much in place still I would be like I would take it.

[00:07:07] Now gone.

[00:07:08] Okay, I feel like I dodged the first punch with some with some joy intact.

[00:07:13] Now come through the second punch at me.

[00:07:15] I mean so before before I go to throw the second punch at you

[00:07:19] I just want to revisit the first punch.

[00:07:22] I don't think that...

[00:07:25] The injury?

[00:07:26] Again, no, no.

[00:07:27] I feel like you saying that you didn't expect Champions League football this season is not entirely true

[00:07:34] because he has Liverpool did have a free season last season

[00:07:37] but it was a free season.

[00:07:38] It happens in life and it's not something that is a regular occurrence.

[00:07:47] You know, you cannot take that season.

[00:07:50] It did not seem like there were any systemic issues with the club

[00:07:54] because for the last few seasons we've all been talking about how incredibly well run Liverpool has been under Klopp

[00:08:01] how he has managed to take this club by the collar and drag up the standards to a certain level

[00:08:07] and he's molded this team and this club in the image of himself.

[00:08:11] Right?

[00:08:12] So in this situation yes a free season is possible.

[00:08:16] It's not great for the fans obviously but it is possible

[00:08:19] but I don't think anybody thought on the back of that KR this season

[00:08:22] Champions League football nahi mirega.

[00:08:24] Like fourth place to Liverpool were always in contention for.

[00:08:28] Regardless of players going out like I know you've had...

[00:08:32] I'm not sure, so think about it.

[00:08:34] Exactly we had like a midfield clean out.

[00:08:38] I think six midfielders left all sent off

[00:08:42] and then we had like maybe three coming and then there's what are you end of which

[00:08:47] I don't know like you know like and then Graven Burch was a sort of like unknown.

[00:08:51] Only there were two big signings which was Zoslai who's been sort of like a six to seven on ten of Sassanig

[00:08:57] and then McAllister who's actually been an Iron Ten signing

[00:08:59] but the rest were like sort of mediocre signings who are unknown players

[00:09:02] not that big.

[00:09:03] I don't...

[00:09:04] Let me finish at the beginning of the season

[00:09:06] you had Man City Arsenal confirmed for like whatever right Champions League

[00:09:11] then you had Tottenham which is everyone was really excited about

[00:09:15] especially in that first period of first ten games especially

[00:09:18] and they were like oh maybe Tottenham will win.

[00:09:20] Number three and then there was between Chelsea, New Chelsea, Newcastle, United who finished all three

[00:09:27] like two of them like United and Newcastle are Champions League finishers from last season

[00:09:32] right and Liverpool was competing, there was four teams competing for this sort of third

[00:09:36] but third and fourth part.

[00:09:37] Again, again Mukesh what you're forgetting is Newcastle was never going to finish in top four again.

[00:09:42] Are you okay?

[00:09:43] I'm saying that is with hindsight.

[00:09:45] I mean what I'm saying is no there's no hindsight it's very obvious

[00:09:49] it was a club that last season batted well above average they over exceeded their expectations

[00:09:56] Can I just say Amogh you were a cricket metaphor and said batted well above average

[00:10:01] Excellent IPL fever rubbing off

[00:10:04] IPL fever is rubbing off

[00:10:07] I'm saying like no no

[00:10:09] No Newcastle if you're saying that nobody expected Liverpool to get Champions League football this season

[00:10:17] I would make that argument for Newcastle because nobody expected Newcastle to get that this season

[00:10:21] Last season under new ownership under Eddie how it was too many good things happening to that club

[00:10:28] some great transfers and it was a great start for them but obviously they were not prepared for a run in the Champions League

[00:10:37] They didn't have a squad that was deep enough for that and that was always going to be an issue for them this season

[00:10:43] and that is exactly what has happened that is exactly what we've seen because they've had some great results

[00:10:47] but there have been times where because of the lack of their squad depth they've had some terrible results as well

[00:10:52] and they of course they were in a very tough Champions League group and they did beat PSG in that historic night at St James's Park

[00:11:01] but they didn't get out through the group so this season was never going to be a top four season for Newcastle

[00:11:08] whereas for Liverpool again the kind of players that you're talking about Henderson leaving

[00:11:14] I don't think made that much of an impact on the pitch

[00:11:17] he was more of an off the pitch leader than an on the pitch enforcer

[00:11:21] he was not getting any younger his powers were waning

[00:11:24] Fabinho yes Fabinho was a little more dominant in that midfield on the pitch

[00:11:29] and losing him was probably not a great thing it did ruin the midfield balance a little bit for Liverpool

[00:11:36] but look at the players that you've got, you yourself have said that you've got Alexis McAllister who's a 9 on 10 signing

[00:11:40] which I think is absolutely fine he's won a World Cup as well

[00:11:43] you got Dominic Schobersley who's played really well for you guys

[00:11:48] I mean I remember a bunch of Liverpool fans saying that he deserves that number 8 shirt that he's wearing

[00:11:54] he's the spiritual successor to Steven Gerrard

[00:11:56] he scored some important goals for you guys as well

[00:11:59] so I wouldn't say that he's a mediocre signing

[00:12:03] as is the case with Cody Lackpo and Ryan Gravenberg

[00:12:07] these two were highly rated Dutch prospects

[00:12:12] they were players that Man United were also interested in

[00:12:15] they were players that Chelsea were also interested in

[00:12:17] and yes while they would not have had the kind of experience that McAllister had because he's played in the Premier League

[00:12:23] you still expected and the football community in general still expected these players to come to Liverpool

[00:12:30] to work under Klopp who is very good at man management and he's very good at developing players

[00:12:37] to see them really assimilate into how Liverpool play and how Klopp plays

[00:12:42] so nobody expected Gagpo and Gravenberg for example regardless of how unqualified or less qualified or unexposed they are

[00:12:52] to be bad signings

[00:12:54] then you have Vataru Endo who was a panic buy who was a last minute signing because Gagpo and Gravenberg hadn't worked out

[00:13:03] and he's performed really well so I call bullshit on that don't like it's nothing to do with the kind of transfer window that you had

[00:13:12] you had a decent transfer window

[00:13:14] not really

[00:13:16] if you know not decent transfer window you got what four players who are good

[00:13:20] no see if okay so if you're trying to say that hey we're trying to compete with an Arsenal

[00:13:25] and I remember it was the reason Liverpool fans and general community was optimistic was

[00:13:32] I'm going to cut you off there

[00:13:34] I'm going to cut you off there

[00:13:36] I'm not saying anything I'm saying anything I'm saying

[00:13:38] how can you cut me off

[00:13:40] how can you cut me off

[00:13:42] how can you cut me off on an exclamation amount

[00:13:44] no this is how can you be like

[00:13:46] dude you made an exclamation mark

[00:13:48] I disagree with your exclamation mark

[00:13:50] I do disagree with your exclamation mark

[00:13:53] I do

[00:13:55] I do

[00:13:57] what did you do

[00:13:59] I do

[00:14:01] no you you you shut up

[00:14:03] this is a time's nowification of the corner flag

[00:14:05] this is happening

[00:14:07] no but I want to cut you off right now even if you haven't said it

[00:14:09] I'm still cutting you off

[00:14:11] why are you cutting me off

[00:14:13] tell me okay

[00:14:15] because you said

[00:14:17] you compared you compared to Arsenal

[00:14:19] I haven't said anything

[00:14:21] how many players did Arsenal sign and what were the players

[00:14:23] Arsenal sign tell me

[00:14:25] I haven't said anything

[00:14:27] but you mentioned Arsenal

[00:14:29] oh my god

[00:14:31] Arsenal sign just because it's an Arsenal

[00:14:33] yeah just because it's an Arsenal anyway

[00:14:35] I was going to say that a big part of Liverpool's

[00:14:37] optimism over the transfer window

[00:14:39] was the idea that at some point

[00:14:41] we'll get Jude Bellingham

[00:14:43] right and then Jude Bellingham eventually turned us down

[00:14:45] and he went to Real Madrid

[00:14:47] and I remember it was a big thing right

[00:14:49] which is why we had to go get so much

[00:14:51] because he was not our first priority

[00:14:53] whereas the fact that

[00:14:55] Arsenal got someone

[00:14:57] and Liverpool if you look back last season

[00:14:59] where Liverpool lost and faltered was because

[00:15:01] they were terrible in midfield and defence

[00:15:03] and especially defence they were

[00:15:05] atrocious so Liverpool needed

[00:15:07] a new centre back

[00:15:09] the attack was pretty sorted I think the expectation was that

[00:15:11] okay they will score as many goals and I still feel like

[00:15:13] okay they were really not clinical for three games

[00:15:15] but overall I would be like hey no

[00:15:17] we have scored enough goals

[00:15:23] but in terms of

[00:15:25] there was no defensive reinforcement for Liverpool

[00:15:27] and everybody went off and whereas in the

[00:15:29] meantime Arsenal where

[00:15:31] we were optimistic when Bellingham was supposed to come

[00:15:33] but on the other hand

[00:15:35] and when

[00:15:37] and there was this other guy

[00:15:39] that said oh sorry how can I forget those big ones

[00:15:41] so it was Bellingham and Kaisero and we

[00:15:43] were supposed to have this rejuvenated

[00:15:45] we got a McAllister who has now

[00:15:47] been

[00:15:49] worked out or whatever and even Zopasla

[00:15:51] I don't know if you have not been following Liverpool he has not been that big

[00:15:53] that good of a signing for Liverpool

[00:15:55] because he has been injured again it has been an injury prone season

[00:15:57] for him

[00:15:59] on the other hand Arsenal have signed someone

[00:16:01] like hucking

[00:16:03] Declan Rice for 100 million

[00:16:05] and they get the player that they wanted and that was

[00:16:07] the address that

[00:16:09] the address that one big hole in them

[00:16:11] anyway the reason I am trying to say is that see this is about whether

[00:16:13] Liverpool were expected to even challenge the title

[00:16:15] we were expected to even top 4 was a fight

[00:16:17] given that two spots are already taken

[00:16:19] you had five teams who all spent

[00:16:21] a billion bucks and now then there was

[00:16:23] Arsenal will have as time etc who are fighting

[00:16:25] so I think

[00:16:27] I don't think there is anyone saying that oh top 4

[00:16:29] is easy for Liverpool

[00:16:31] it was like challenging of course Liverpool challenges

[00:16:33] for like top 4 like how you would expect

[00:16:35] NHLC or Tottenham also to support

[00:16:37] to fight for top 4

[00:16:39] no matter what the season is

[00:16:41] but I am saying it wasn't given anyway

[00:16:43] I like how this whole spiel is now you trying to convince me

[00:16:45] to be sad but I am like hey man actually

[00:16:47] Tongue to you has made me happy

[00:16:49] I feel like

[00:16:51] I know you are not trying to

[00:16:53] and you are trying to make me feel sad but I am like

[00:16:55] actually Tongue to you as I have made me feel better

[00:16:57] so thank you

[00:16:59] cheers to you

[00:17:01] I am not trying to

[00:17:03] make you feel better or anything

[00:17:05] I am just trying to point out the logical flaw

[00:17:07] I didn't make an argument for you to make me feel flawed

[00:17:09] before I said anything

[00:17:11] only you said you want to say that

[00:17:13] Arsenal interrupt

[00:17:15] yeah

[00:17:17] Arsenal

[00:17:19] Arsenal

[00:17:21] Arsenal signed Declan Rice, they signed David

[00:17:23] Raya, they signed Kai Havertz

[00:17:25] right, okay I am guessing the other players

[00:17:27] not that important but yeah

[00:17:29] okay those are other Julian Timber who was injured by the way

[00:17:31] okay cool

[00:17:33] so look at it no Julian Timber

[00:17:35] they signed who is again a prospect

[00:17:37] he is not an established player

[00:17:39] he is at the same level of prospect

[00:17:41] okay you are saying Declan Rice

[00:17:43] who is a marquee

[00:17:45] proven 100 million

[00:17:47] it is 100 million

[00:17:49] they are there

[00:17:51] but then basically

[00:17:53] you are saying that Arteta and Arsenal

[00:17:55] are a better coaching setup in club

[00:17:57] than Klopp and Liverpool

[00:17:59] I would say this

[00:18:01] because Klopp is supposed to be

[00:18:03] this genius manager who can take these players

[00:18:05] and really get them playing

[00:18:07] the way he wants them to play

[00:18:09] which he has done

[00:18:11] but it is also

[00:18:13] Liverpool players have been injured

[00:18:15] they missed out almost 2 months

[00:18:17] but injury is

[00:18:19] injury is with everyone

[00:18:21] who is Mr Alunas

[00:18:23] who is Mr Alunas

[00:18:25] Arsenal

[00:18:27] you just look at the top

[00:18:29] Arsenal

[00:18:31] who has been injured

[00:18:33] Arsenal have

[00:18:35] who they have not signed a very big player

[00:18:37] in the backup

[00:18:39] that is a ravaged team

[00:18:41] can I list Liverpool injuries and then you complete with me

[00:18:43] no

[00:18:45] you have mentioned Liverpool injuries too many times

[00:18:47] no

[00:18:49] no

[00:18:51] Alisson was out for 2-3 months

[00:18:53] Salah has been out

[00:18:55] because of Afqon

[00:18:57] Jota has been out for 2-3 months

[00:18:59] Zobaclan was out for 2-3 months

[00:19:01] McAllister was out for a couple of weeks

[00:19:03] then there was

[00:19:05] Alisson Wurj

[00:19:07] Midfield Pay

[00:19:09] how many players were injured

[00:19:11] Joko Mez and Andy Robertson were injured

[00:19:13] briefly

[00:19:15] and that's why Kouraati is injured

[00:19:17] we got cornered

[00:19:19] to become a player

[00:19:21] even for Banta

[00:19:23] when you question Klopp's coaching level

[00:19:25] you look kind of silly

[00:19:27] but in terms of injury

[00:19:29] I don't think no one has had it as bad as Liverpool

[00:19:31] and I still say that's Liverpool's fault only

[00:19:33] I still feel like it's

[00:19:35] I will say it's Klopp's fault

[00:19:37] in planning for the season

[00:19:39] I will say it's FSG's fault in not

[00:19:41] backing Klopp or pushing Klopp too

[00:19:43] whatever and I do feel like Klopp lost his battle

[00:19:45] when

[00:19:47] I don't know how well you are with Liverpool

[00:19:49] familiar with Liverpool that 2-3 years ago

[00:19:51] Michael Edwards who has now come back as CEO

[00:19:53] of Liverpool football

[00:19:55] Klopp and him had a big difference in opinion

[00:19:57] how to run the team

[00:19:59] and Klopp wanted more power in

[00:20:01] who gets to pick who

[00:20:03] and Michael Edwards has famously picked

[00:20:05] Sala and Van Dyke and all the players who we now celebrate

[00:20:07] and Klopp has coached them but I think it was

[00:20:09] when Klopp started to pick players

[00:20:11] things started to go like

[00:20:13] go to shit

[00:20:15] so which I still think is Klopp's fault

[00:20:17] maybe he shouldn't have picked the players

[00:20:19] but he knows what he wants

[00:20:21] but he doesn't know which player he wants

[00:20:23] because Nunes is

[00:20:25] Klopp signing

[00:20:27] imagine if this is the best coached version of Nunes

[00:20:29] imagine what he is

[00:20:31] without Klopp's coaching

[00:20:33] whatever so I would say it's been

[00:20:35] a different battle for Liverpool in terms of injuries

[00:20:37] and

[00:20:39] the lack of backup for those

[00:20:41] especially in midfield and defence

[00:20:43] for those signs because I think attack-wise

[00:20:45] Liverpool are pretty stacked

[00:20:47] but yes

[00:20:49] no I mean I think

[00:20:51] the point is clearly made

[00:20:53] I don't think injury crisis is something that is

[00:20:55] specific only to Liverpool

[00:20:57] I think every club

[00:20:59] I am saying no club has had it

[00:21:01] I was bad but if your argument is no other

[00:21:03] but Liverpool have been particularly

[00:21:05] prepared for it I agree

[00:21:07] Liverpool's struggle

[00:21:09] Liverpool's struggle is very hard

[00:21:11] and given that

[00:21:13] Klopp's coaching

[00:21:15] makes players injury prone

[00:21:17] the way Klopp demands

[00:21:19] players to play

[00:21:21] there are 38 games every player can play

[00:21:23] a good 25 games which means

[00:21:25] you need a broader base of players

[00:21:27] I never understand why

[00:21:29] Guardiola has so many players

[00:21:31] in fact I feel like the number of players Guardiola uses

[00:21:33] he doesn't need so many players

[00:21:35] Klopp takes 12 players and give away 60 games

[00:21:37] I agree

[00:21:39] that I will give it to you

[00:21:41] my basic argument is

[00:21:43] nothing to do with Klopp's coaching abilities

[00:21:45] something to do with Klopp's

[00:21:47] financial sense

[00:21:49] correct correct no I am saying that Klopp's

[00:21:51] talent ID may not be as good

[00:21:53] as was once recommended

[00:21:55] if you are saying that Salah, Virgil and all

[00:21:57] are Michael Edwards side and not Klopp's

[00:21:59] then serious questions need to be

[00:22:01] asked about Klopp's talent identification

[00:22:03] that is one thing

[00:22:05] the second thing is

[00:22:07] every club this season

[00:22:09] has been through an injury crisis

[00:22:11] and that is nothing specific to Liverpool

[00:22:13] that is only because now wait let me finish

[00:22:15] don't do anything

[00:22:17] I have never

[00:22:19] cut you off in the explanation

[00:22:21] that is basically

[00:22:23] because

[00:22:25] of the f**king packed football calendar

[00:22:27] that these players have had to go through

[00:22:29] now I agree with what you are saying

[00:22:31] Klopp's preparedness for a season

[00:22:33] that was going to be this taxing

[00:22:35] was lacking and the obvious comparison

[00:22:37] is Pep

[00:22:39] Pep has managed to rotate his squad really well

[00:22:41] Pep has had Harland out injured

[00:22:43] he has had a Grealish out of form

[00:22:45] but they have made correct signings

[00:22:47] and even their young players

[00:22:49] like Rico, Lewis and all can come in

[00:22:51] and play like their Kyle Walker

[00:22:53] that is a well oiled machine

[00:22:55] that we shouldn't even talk about because

[00:22:57] it's robotic

[00:22:59] it's chat GPT of football

[00:23:01] it's an anomaly

[00:23:03] financial steroids

[00:23:05] Arsenal and maybe Real Steroids

[00:23:07] no correct

[00:23:09] so that is different

[00:23:11] with Arsenal yes they had one Maki

[00:23:13] and they had Jury and Timber out for essentially

[00:23:15] the season Gabriel Jesus was also

[00:23:17] a great signing

[00:23:19] for them was starting to hit form for Arsenal

[00:23:21] where he got injured and then he's never been

[00:23:23] the same player since he's come back from injury

[00:23:25] but they have still managed

[00:23:27] it they have still managed it

[00:23:29] they have still performed well in games

[00:23:31] whereas Liverpool haven't performed

[00:23:33] well in key games now that is

[00:23:35] the biggest comparison

[00:23:37] between the two clubs

[00:23:39] okay right now

[00:23:41] okay so as of officially it stands

[00:23:43] I think against when Liverpool have played

[00:23:45] the big six right

[00:23:47] they've had a really piss poor record

[00:23:49] and I will take that against

[00:23:51] Man United, Liverpool have been especially shit

[00:23:53] all three games the FA Cup game and the two league games

[00:23:55] I agree but against that Tottenham

[00:23:57] game up in the first

[00:23:59] the first time around then they played

[00:24:01] there were so much roaches refereeing

[00:24:03] they pretty much should have shaken football up

[00:24:05] it didn't go all the way

[00:24:07] enough enough about refereeing at all

[00:24:09] everybody has refereeing issues

[00:24:11] but I am not in forest

[00:24:13] as refereeing issues

[00:24:15] no team has had bad decisions

[00:24:17] go against them

[00:24:19] except for the top two

[00:24:21] now I am not comparing myself

[00:24:23] to the remaining 17 teams

[00:24:25] not really

[00:24:27] not as much

[00:24:29] the refereeing debate

[00:24:31] is pointless

[00:24:33] it's not even about

[00:24:35] favouritism anymore it is just

[00:24:37] pathetic

[00:24:39] of course but I am saying it's not affected

[00:24:41] I am not comparing myself to a Nottingham forest

[00:24:43] or a Luton town or United even

[00:24:45] I don't know what happened in United

[00:24:47] but I am comparing myself

[00:24:49] to two people competing against

[00:24:51] which is City and Arsenal

[00:24:53] compared to the kind of favouritism

[00:24:55] that they have been shown in Liverpool

[00:24:57] there was a clear penalty

[00:24:59] that was given

[00:25:01] in very much title deciding games

[00:25:03] I am not talking about when we were playing

[00:25:05] Liverpool I have accepted that

[00:25:07] I have accepted that we were

[00:25:09] Liverpool vs United but against

[00:25:11] title deciding games Liverpool were given

[00:25:13] very unfair decisions you can't just

[00:25:15] paint that as hey it's been the same for everybody

[00:25:17] no but I am not comparing it to them

[00:25:19] I am saying hey there has been clear fee

[00:25:21] you should be a lot more outraged

[00:25:23] other than the fact that three of your biggest rivals are all competing

[00:25:25] with the Tile Race the fact that the two people

[00:25:27] who are competing with the Tile Race not only have they been given

[00:25:29] unfair financial advantage

[00:25:31] they have also been given real time

[00:25:33] to get advantage and that is what

[00:25:35] is making them win a lot easier

[00:25:37] and despite that club has just come with

[00:25:39] to find margins

[00:25:41] now that I feel like when you

[00:25:43] as fans or whatever don't get outraged over that

[00:25:45] and be like ok we will stick to our partisans

[00:25:47] or partisans favouritism etc

[00:25:49] it makes no sense

[00:25:51] it is that six points that Liverpool were

[00:25:53] supposed to get that they didn't get

[00:25:55] I have the episode

[00:25:57] title Mukesh

[00:25:59] I have the episode title that I am going to

[00:26:01] tell you before we swiftly move on

[00:26:03] the episode title is Liverpool's

[00:26:05] Solulu is Dilulu

[00:26:07] that is basically

[00:26:09] what you are saying

[00:26:11] we need to move on so we will talk quickly about

[00:26:13] the tiff between

[00:26:15] Salah and Klopp

[00:26:17] basically it just sums up

[00:26:19] this entire debate that we have been having

[00:26:21] about Klopp

[00:26:23] I like Klopp as a manager

[00:26:25] I feel like he has done some very good things

[00:26:27] at Liverpool but I don't

[00:26:29] like the deatification

[00:26:31] of him

[00:26:33] he is not a very successful manager

[00:26:35] when you look at

[00:26:37] the amount of time he spent at the club

[00:26:39] and the amount of profils he has to show for it

[00:26:41] it's not great

[00:26:43] and the fact that he is leaving the club because

[00:26:45] he is tired is just

[00:26:47] such a cop out get sacked like

[00:26:49] a real man

[00:26:53] let the other

[00:26:55] fans chant at you you are getting sacked in the morning

[00:26:57] be a real man

[00:26:59] but I think the biggest thing

[00:27:01] of

[00:27:03] the game of course was

[00:27:05] the issue that Klopp and Salah had

[00:27:07] and that I think just personifies

[00:27:09] the whole situation at Liverpool

[00:27:11] Salah has not been in great form

[00:27:13] and I think Klopp was well within

[00:27:15] his right to bench him for this one

[00:27:17] and he brings him on with 10 minutes to go with the score title

[00:27:19] 2-2 and they had

[00:27:21] a little bit of an argument on the page

[00:27:23] now Jamie Karagor said that this was

[00:27:25] probably because Salah took way too long

[00:27:27] to get ready

[00:27:29] but fan footage is revealed that it started

[00:27:31] because Salah can take

[00:27:33] Klopp's hug

[00:27:35] before coming on

[00:27:37] and apparently that's an interaction

[00:27:39] rule that Klopp has

[00:27:41] where every substitute has to shake his hand

[00:27:43] and take a hug from him

[00:27:45] and Salah was like fuck it I don't want to hug you

[00:27:47] and they had a fight

[00:27:49] now

[00:27:51] I know United is a banter club

[00:27:53] alright

[00:27:55] and it is very

[00:27:57] obvious that United are a

[00:27:59] banter club and I accept all the banter

[00:28:01] about United being a banter club

[00:28:03] but fuck me this is next level

[00:28:05] banterness

[00:28:07] how the fuck

[00:28:09] how the fuck can you do that

[00:28:11] and he's doing this with

[00:28:13] most Salah who is

[00:28:15] supposedly your best player

[00:28:17] for the last how many ever seasons

[00:28:19] yeah so yeah

[00:28:21] what to do

[00:28:23] it's nice

[00:28:25] maybe Salah was upset that he was

[00:28:27] put on the bench and he was here

[00:28:29] of course I think

[00:28:31] it was an unfair call

[00:28:33] I feel like I would have played

[00:28:35] more Salah unless you try to manage his

[00:28:37] minutes but it makes no sense

[00:28:39] to manage your minutes now

[00:28:41] I'm like

[00:28:43] see of course he's been poor

[00:28:45] in finishing but someone like Salah

[00:28:47] I feel like he takes

[00:28:49] one game from day to day form

[00:28:51] he's also been given a safe

[00:28:53] because what if there is a penalty to take

[00:28:55] or what if there is a thing

[00:28:57] and because most Salah also takes away two players

[00:28:59] with him so even if he's poor

[00:29:01] or maybe one and a half

[00:29:03] I feel like I should

[00:29:05] I'm not doubting his capabilities

[00:29:07] because whatever situation

[00:29:09] happened with Klopp he comes in on the game

[00:29:11] and he's making some incredible runs

[00:29:13] I'm not saying

[00:29:15] that he was poor I'm just saying that

[00:29:17] do you think that situation that happened with Klopp

[00:29:19] just riled him up even more because

[00:29:21] he's standing on the other end

[00:29:23] he's made some incredible runs

[00:29:25] on the far right

[00:29:27] and that is I mean I don't know

[00:29:29] if Salah would have been able to do that

[00:29:31] if he had started the game

[00:29:33] that's my point like do you think this

[00:29:35] is something like Klopp is just

[00:29:37] doing real mind games just like

[00:29:39] I know you fucker I've benched you

[00:29:41] I'm just gonna push your mind

[00:29:43] get me that one more goal

[00:29:45] but then maybe you should give it something

[00:29:47] on with Klopp has been

[00:29:49] one of the biggest criticisms of Klopp

[00:29:51] and his time is that how badly he used substitutes

[00:29:53] like in jail of course he's been good

[00:29:55] but broadly I'm talking about over the career not just this season

[00:29:57] although this season has been better

[00:29:59] which he always brings on

[00:30:01] he always brings on substitutes after the 60th

[00:30:03] or 78th minute right he's never brave

[00:30:05] he's not often does not

[00:30:07] he does not often change people at 45

[00:30:09] and maybe I think in this game against West Ham

[00:30:11] especially when they were given the Liverpool

[00:30:13] or One-Nil down or even against

[00:30:15] every like

[00:30:17] I think at 45 minutes in the second half

[00:30:19] if Salah was brought on and you give

[00:30:21] Salah about 45 plus I guess 5 to 10 minutes extra

[00:30:23] it may be the game would have been a bit different

[00:30:25] but I think

[00:30:27] I think benching him for so long

[00:30:29] was a little

[00:30:31] like it would frustrate a player like him right

[00:30:33] I mean he's already fucking

[00:30:35] played in the Europa League

[00:30:37] at this season

[00:30:39] which I'm sure like it's like

[00:30:41] can you imagine like

[00:30:43] if Suarez played in the fucking Europa League

[00:30:45] that's so tragic right

[00:30:47] so yeah and then probably

[00:30:49] I would still say so like Salah is like

[00:30:51] maybe the second most talented player

[00:30:53] to have put on the Liverpool shirt after Suarez

[00:30:55] and he's like fucking playing in the Europa League

[00:30:57] and then to be benched

[00:30:59] I totally get the frustration and maybe he could have come on

[00:31:01] in the second half

[00:31:03] and have to change the result

[00:31:05] in Liverpool's favour

[00:31:07] but now professional

[00:31:09] professional lip reader actually

[00:31:11] saw the footage and has tried to

[00:31:13] analyse what exactly was said

[00:31:15] of course Klopp's response

[00:31:17] was not visible

[00:31:19] so the lip reader could not

[00:31:21] analyse that but he said that

[00:31:23] what it looked like what

[00:31:25] Salah was saying was

[00:31:27] there's nothing I can do about that

[00:31:29] nothing then Klopp responds

[00:31:31] with something and then Salah says

[00:31:33] I will I'll go get a red card

[00:31:35] after 7 years of service

[00:31:37] 7 years

[00:31:40] I mean clearly he wants a goal right

[00:31:46] yeah I mean what do you think was said

[00:31:48] actually what do you think Klopp said

[00:31:52] I think

[00:31:54] Klopp was saying something very obvious to him

[00:31:58] I think probably Klopp was saying something

[00:32:00] very obvious to him

[00:32:02] maybe like he may have tried scoring a goal or something

[00:32:04] like just something generic that you say

[00:32:06] in the moment of tense

[00:32:08] but I think Klopp was saying something

[00:32:10] very obvious to him

[00:32:12] and he was like

[00:32:14] I think Klopp was just forgotten

[00:32:16] at Salah's pistol

[00:32:18] and he was like

[00:32:20] we'll do a drawing to all

[00:32:22] stop throwing a bitch fit

[00:32:24] I have a feeling Klopp must be like

[00:32:26] if you can't give me a hug atleast give me a goal

[00:32:28] yeah

[00:32:30] also it was great that David Nunes

[00:32:32] had to be the one to separate Klopp

[00:32:34] and Salah from going off at each other

[00:32:36] and he asked about what happened between the two

[00:32:38] and he said he missed it

[00:32:40] just perfectly

[00:32:42] cannot hit anything

[00:32:44] no

[00:32:46] but also like

[00:32:48] I mean

[00:32:50] in the post match

[00:32:52] Klopp did say that he had spoken about it in the dressing room

[00:32:54] and the matters finished it's done

[00:32:56] but while leaving in the mix zone

[00:32:58] Salah was looking at the camera smiling and saying

[00:33:00] if I speak now there will be fire

[00:33:02] which I think was a joke

[00:33:04] I think that was like

[00:33:06] was he channeling his inner Mourinho

[00:33:08] if I speak I will be in trouble

[00:33:10] if I speak

[00:33:12] one more to another move

[00:33:14] unfortunately he can't say three premier leagues for me

[00:33:16] respect

[00:33:18] he can't even say three kaale cups

[00:33:20] Lee cups

[00:33:22] he said two lee cups

[00:33:24] yeah it doesn't, three is the magic number

[00:33:26] two kaisa tha hai sa maravar naik tha

[00:33:28] but it does look like Arne Slott is going to be

[00:33:30] the new Liverpool manager

[00:33:32] I like to call him Baron Harkinen from Dune

[00:33:34] too good

[00:33:36] or Jabba the Hutt

[00:33:38] or Mini Me from Austin Powers

[00:33:40] or Kingpin

[00:33:42] from Daredevil

[00:33:44] or Kingpin from any bald villain

[00:33:46] is basically Arne Slott

[00:33:48] Bruce Willis from Die Hard

[00:33:50] or Bruce

[00:33:52] Bruce Willis is cooler

[00:33:54] but we don't know for Liverpool he might be like that

[00:33:56] or

[00:33:58] he's a Dutch Dijs

[00:34:00] he's a Dutch Dijs

[00:34:02] okay I'm just saying

[00:34:04] what is it

[00:34:06] with Liverpool just

[00:34:08] the Takla Bangalore

[00:34:10] then United

[00:34:12] we want to be like Man City

[00:34:14] we will get a Takla of our own

[00:34:16] now Liverpool we want to be like Man United

[00:34:18] we will get a Dutch Takla of our own

[00:34:20] who's not good enough

[00:34:22] I mean why Sean Dijs is just on the line

[00:34:24] he's like maybe who is it

[00:34:26] Mehed

[00:34:28] but that's because Sean Dijs

[00:34:30] as you notice Sean Dijs

[00:34:32] is not actually Takla

[00:34:34] his Taklaness is voluntary

[00:34:36] he shapes his head

[00:34:38] but if he grows his hair

[00:34:40] if he decides to grow his hair

[00:34:42] he'll have hair

[00:34:44] this is actual news to me and I'm ashamed

[00:34:46] that I didn't know this is someone who's interested

[00:34:48] in football but also someone who's interested

[00:34:50] in hair

[00:34:52] that I didn't know this fact

[00:34:54] exactly

[00:34:56] it's a perfect intersection

[00:34:58] of my two primary interests

[00:35:00] hair and football

[00:35:02] you think

[00:35:04] the Liverpool owners went to Arnys lot

[00:35:06] and said see we got

[00:35:08] clop hair plugs

[00:35:10] the same for you

[00:35:12] and they were looking at Ruben Amur

[00:35:14] and he's like his hair is already

[00:35:16] very good

[00:35:18] he's more arsenal type

[00:35:20] with art at I like he can probably

[00:35:22] succeed art at I in the Hairy department

[00:35:24] we need somebody that we can work on

[00:35:26] his teeth is good

[00:35:28] you can work on his hair

[00:35:30] can I tell you

[00:35:32] my outlandish conspiracy theory

[00:35:34] that I use to console myself

[00:35:36] and still continue to support Liverpool

[00:35:38] which is passionately

[00:35:40] without less depression inside

[00:35:42] which is that my theory is that

[00:35:44] it's actually a secret ploy

[00:35:46] that next year

[00:35:48] he'll be Liverpool is collapsing completely

[00:35:50] yeah I totally see that happening

[00:35:52] imminent collapse incoming right

[00:35:54] there's no hope

[00:35:56] so slot is going to take the

[00:35:58] hit for it and players will leave

[00:36:00] and there'll be a flush out that happens

[00:36:02] and then one year

[00:36:04] I was going to say Javiolonso

[00:36:06] then after one year of

[00:36:08] getting some Champions League experience

[00:36:10] and lesser expectations

[00:36:12] Javiolonso comes back

[00:36:14] Arnys lot is fired

[00:36:16] Liverpool rise again

[00:36:18] but that means for the next

[00:36:20] one year I'm

[00:36:22] going to need a lot of help from you

[00:36:24] I can't help you

[00:36:26] I can't help you

[00:36:28] as the person with the most amount

[00:36:30] to smile for in the last couple of years

[00:36:32] in this podcast guys it's time

[00:36:34] for you guys to teach me how to be like

[00:36:36] everybody else

[00:36:38] yeah how to be the common man

[00:36:40] how to be the common man

[00:36:42] the king has been brought down to the town square

[00:36:44] yeah

[00:36:46] the king has become the jester

[00:36:48] right on that note let's take a quick break

[00:36:50] on the other side we'll talk about

[00:36:52] man united we'll talk about

[00:36:54] Chelsea we'll talk about Spurs

[00:36:56] and obviously while we're talking about Spurs

[00:36:58] we will talk about Arsail because the first half

[00:37:00] thanks to Mukesh has been all about Liverpool

[00:37:02] see you on the other side

[00:37:08] welcome back to the corner flag everybody

[00:37:10] and as always we do not begin the second half

[00:37:12] with your questions because we forgot

[00:37:16] it's a professional podcast guys

[00:37:18] it's a professional podcast

[00:37:20] very very organized guys

[00:37:22] very very organized right let's go over to man united

[00:37:24] one Burnley one yet

[00:37:26] another fucking

[00:37:28] disgusting performance

[00:37:30] three points that should have been

[00:37:32] very very easy

[00:37:34] against society that is

[00:37:38] he missed a bunch of chances

[00:37:40] yeah they did they did

[00:37:42] no it was just a terrible thing and it started off with the defense

[00:37:44] playing really well with Andrew O'nana playing really well

[00:37:46] and in the end he was a great saves man

[00:37:48] O'nana he did make some great saves and then he just let go of a very

[00:37:52] very chutia penalty

[00:37:54] and this is what happens

[00:37:56] but on the other hand late in the game

[00:37:58] it was Anthony who opened the scoring

[00:38:00] for man united

[00:38:02] he scored his first Premier League goal

[00:38:04] of the season

[00:38:06] and then proceeded to do two celebrations

[00:38:08] one was by putting a ball under his

[00:38:10] shirt because his wife is pregnant

[00:38:12] and then he took a Sonic the Hedgehog

[00:38:14] soft toy from a photographer

[00:38:16] and showed it to everyone because

[00:38:18] his elder son

[00:38:20] loves Sonic the Hedgehog

[00:38:22] I love the fact that Anthony has more

[00:38:24] goal celebrations than goals

[00:38:26] cute

[00:38:28] it is no it is cute

[00:38:30] maybe I think it's actually

[00:38:32] maybe he's a great dad

[00:38:34] he's like no I'm sure I'm not sure

[00:38:36] I need to make my first one not feel excluded

[00:38:38] he's like I will do that

[00:38:40] do you remember his debut against

[00:38:42] Arsenal where he scored the

[00:38:44] goal and

[00:38:46] he had like some five celebrations

[00:38:48] where he did the tiger roar

[00:38:50] he did the thumb in mouth

[00:38:52] he did the chest thumb in the badge

[00:38:54] and then he looked at the camera

[00:38:56] and did some like

[00:38:58] by self

[00:39:00] I feel like in his career

[00:39:02] he has managed to do more goal celebrations than goals

[00:39:04] but I think there is

[00:39:06] logic to this madness

[00:39:08] I think he knows he's not going to score

[00:39:10] too many goals so when he does

[00:39:12] he gets all his celebrations out of the

[00:39:14] puts them in the bag

[00:39:16] he might not have a 20 Premier League goal season

[00:39:18] but he has a 20 Premier League

[00:39:20] goal celebration season

[00:39:22] and that's kind of cool in its own way

[00:39:24] I just hate the fact

[00:39:26] that Anthony Marcial

[00:39:28] scored on debut against Liverpool

[00:39:30] when he joined the club

[00:39:32] and it was a fantastic goal

[00:39:34] it was very tierry on re-esque because

[00:39:36] he cut in from the left and had a lovely

[00:39:38] finesse shot finish into the wide corner

[00:39:40] yeah yeah get to the point

[00:39:46] this guy is so awesome

[00:39:48] he came from Monaco and he has

[00:39:50] such good potential and all which basically

[00:39:52] became Mbape, he was supposed to be the first

[00:39:54] Mbape before Mbape

[00:39:56] and everybody was like

[00:39:58] no but that is basically because

[00:40:00] Monaco at that time was known to churn out

[00:40:02] great youth team products

[00:40:04] and he was one of those so he came very highly regarded

[00:40:06] and he scores on debut against Liverpool

[00:40:08] which was just like

[00:40:10] amazing and then

[00:40:12] he obviously also had the Ballon d'Or

[00:40:14] clause in his contract but if you had the

[00:40:16] Ballon d'Or he gets an additional

[00:40:18] pay bonus or whatever

[00:40:20] and then his career has turned

[00:40:22] out the way it's turned out

[00:40:24] now we've got Anthony who scored against Arsenal

[00:40:26] on his debut

[00:40:28] and has not really lived up to the name

[00:40:30] or on the other hand

[00:40:32] maybe he has lived up to the name because

[00:40:34] what is it with Man United and Anthony's

[00:40:36] what is it?

[00:40:40] Still a great goal, are you going to take it away?

[00:40:42] It's a great goal

[00:40:44] Celebration

[00:40:46] Celebrations

[00:40:48] Exactly, yeah

[00:40:50] but the rumor mills suggest

[00:40:52] that apparently under the 25% ownership

[00:40:54] of INEOS regardless of what

[00:40:56] happens to Eric Tanhag next season whether they stick

[00:40:58] with him or they look out for a new manager

[00:41:00] they are going to

[00:41:02] be open to listening to

[00:41:04] offers for everybody in that squad

[00:41:06] except for rising stars like

[00:41:08] Garnacho, Mino and Hoi Leng

[00:41:10] No, no, I am guessing, right?

[00:41:12] No, no, even on NaNa

[00:41:14] Wow, really?

[00:41:16] I actually watched that Burnley game

[00:41:18] about 45-50 minutes and I was like wow, NaNa is

[00:41:20] really good

[00:41:22] I think I have seen him for the last couple

[00:41:24] of games or whatever

[00:41:26] Every player takes about 10 games

[00:41:28] so certainly

[00:41:30] it sucks for keeper

[00:41:32] He's good

[00:41:34] saves and all but he's also made errors

[00:41:36] the jury is still out on him

[00:41:38] but I am saying that

[00:41:40] this just seems like PR

[00:41:42] bullshit to me

[00:41:44] because everybody in the united fan base

[00:41:46] including myself has been saying

[00:41:48] delete Karukulapko, fuck it everybody

[00:41:50] it's the players fault, players are fuck all

[00:41:52] managers not the issue anymore

[00:41:54] we have seen so many managers, it's the same players

[00:41:56] who tend to throw these managers under the bus

[00:41:58] the players don't want to perform, fuck it sell everybody

[00:42:00] and the owners have taken

[00:42:02] this to heart

[00:42:04] if we have to

[00:42:06] pacify the fans

[00:42:08] we will agree with what they are saying

[00:42:10] yes, yes, we will listen to offers for everyone

[00:42:12] but we won't sell them

[00:42:14] we'll hold on to them

[00:42:16] if we get an acceptable offer

[00:42:18] we'll sell them

[00:42:20] I don't think it is going to be anything

[00:42:22] that comes out of it

[00:42:24] but I still do hope that

[00:42:26] Tenhug stays in the job because I feel like

[00:42:28] he does have some sort of

[00:42:30] idea

[00:42:32] actually now there is a very good

[00:42:34] there is a space

[00:42:36] there is vacancy

[00:42:38] you do know

[00:42:40] Tottenham will be very good next season

[00:42:42] definitely will be bullshit

[00:42:44] maybe emiri

[00:42:46] will run out of steam

[00:42:48] so I think united can push for a good

[00:42:50] comfortably push for champions league

[00:42:52] and hopefully they get some nice signings

[00:42:54] even if not push for the title

[00:42:56] at least dent the title hopes over city

[00:42:58] or in asl

[00:43:00] speaking of asl

[00:43:02] did beat spurs 2-3

[00:43:04] in the northland in dabi

[00:43:06] 3 nil lead was then reduced to 2-3

[00:43:08] because of a dabid raya

[00:43:10] error that started things off for spurs

[00:43:12] Christian Romero

[00:43:14] capitalizing on the error

[00:43:16] is dabid raya trying to tell

[00:43:18] people that he is iron ramsdale in dis guys

[00:43:20] I was just going to be like

[00:43:22] you think

[00:43:24] it's that like a barty crouched thing

[00:43:26] in the goblet of iron

[00:43:28] where it's like actually the raya

[00:43:30] somewhere

[00:43:32] I just

[00:43:34] Aran ramsdale is actually

[00:43:36] karyas

[00:43:38] I just feel like you know how

[00:43:40] when we were in school our parents always told us

[00:43:42] not to hang out with the bad kids

[00:43:44] because their influence will rub off on you

[00:43:46] like you know all these bad kids

[00:43:48] then you'll go out and you'll just

[00:43:50] skip classes and go out to smoke

[00:43:52] cigarettes and all don't do that

[00:43:54] they're bad influences

[00:43:56] I feel like in the Arsenal goalkeeping department

[00:43:58] because Aran ramsdale has said that

[00:44:00] I don't know how to concentrate

[00:44:02] I can only concentrate for 15 minutes in a match

[00:44:04] and dabid raya obviously had to train

[00:44:06] with ramsdale in the training sessions

[00:44:08] I think his concentration is also taking a hit

[00:44:10] this is basically

[00:44:12] akshay kumar coming and telling him

[00:44:14] don't roam with him

[00:44:16] cut

[00:44:18] you leave

[00:44:20] you leave

[00:44:22] the second goal for spurs was also interesting

[00:44:24] it was a penalty that was converted by hyungmin

[00:44:26] the penalty was given away

[00:44:28] by deklin rice because he kicked the wrong ball

[00:44:34] was that Michael Oliver who's in fb

[00:44:36] he saw it from up close

[00:44:38] how could you miss that right raya

[00:44:40] that really tells you how

[00:44:42] bad like

[00:44:44] now it's not even about hey man

[00:44:46] sometimes the naked eye can't catch

[00:44:48] I'm like the naked eye could very much catch

[00:44:50] very much naked kick on the very naked parts

[00:44:54] it was so

[00:44:56] in the nuts

[00:44:58] no that name is

[00:45:00] even if Michael Oliver

[00:45:02] didn't see it

[00:45:04] as a man he should have felt the pain

[00:45:06] as my being in the vicinity

[00:45:08] because we felt it

[00:45:10] as soon as that happened I went

[00:45:12] I went down and I was like

[00:45:14] this is a mistake

[00:45:16] it was something

[00:45:18] it was something that Michael Oliver should have

[00:45:20] should have caught

[00:45:22] and that was really good

[00:45:24] but asal go on

[00:45:26] it was also nice to see bukayo saka

[00:45:28] give it back to the spurs fans who were chanting at him

[00:45:30] that he let his country down

[00:45:32] which is again just fucking nonsense

[00:45:34] like it's a game of football

[00:45:36] he's from your own country

[00:45:38] he represents your own country

[00:45:40] which is for a north London

[00:45:42] dabi that nobody even

[00:45:44] honestly gives a fuck about

[00:45:46] just be a little more civil

[00:45:48] you're grown ass men

[00:45:50] just be a little more civil

[00:45:52] but it was nice to see saka score

[00:45:54] and give it back to them by cupping his ears

[00:45:56] yeah it was very sweet

[00:45:58] but

[00:46:00] I don't know how what do you think

[00:46:02] of

[00:46:04] I think what I think Tottenham had a penalty

[00:46:06] shot and then they

[00:46:08] forgot that they still had to play the game of football

[00:46:10] and I think that's how they got it

[00:46:12] yeah

[00:46:14] do you think that's a weakness of the players

[00:46:16] or do you think that

[00:46:18] that's something that goes back to the manager

[00:46:20] not training them well enough

[00:46:22] no I think it's neither

[00:46:24] because

[00:46:26] it's one of those things where you are told

[00:46:28] that you play to the whistle and all of that

[00:46:30] but sometimes when a player feels like

[00:46:32] they've had a stone wall penalty

[00:46:34] they will want to appeal

[00:46:36] and you can't put that down to

[00:46:38] a lack of concentration by the players

[00:46:40] or a lack of good coaching by the manager

[00:46:42] or even Ange Posterkoglu would be like

[00:46:44] yeah it's okay

[00:46:46] we lost out on the break because

[00:46:48] we were too busy appealing but I'm not going to

[00:46:50] tell my players to stop doing that

[00:46:52] I want my players to fight for decisions

[00:46:54] at least if I was Ange that's what I would say

[00:46:56] okay

[00:46:58] for me if I was thinking

[00:47:00] oh that's actually

[00:47:02] like

[00:47:04] okay the one thing I really liked about Arsenal

[00:47:06] was it didn't look like

[00:47:08] and I think the key to winning any derby is to

[00:47:10] treat it like a derby as much as fans wanted to

[00:47:12] be treated like a derby because I feel like that gets to

[00:47:14] clear because Arsenal just looked like

[00:47:16] they are

[00:47:18] yeah they're just playing a regular game

[00:47:20] they could have been playing Burnley

[00:47:22] or they could have been playing Luton

[00:47:24] and then every team

[00:47:26] maybe barring a Liverpool in city where sometimes

[00:47:28] they look nervous, pretty much every game

[00:47:30] looked like they just looked very cold and clinical

[00:47:32] including this game

[00:47:34] and it took an exceptionally stupid error from David Raya

[00:47:36] for Arsenal to look

[00:47:38] even shaky a little bit

[00:47:40] yeah

[00:47:42] so I thought that to me was like wow

[00:47:44] Arsenal are just like you can clear that mentality

[00:47:46] I mean it might not work out because city might still win

[00:47:48] but I'm like still

[00:47:50] it's great mentality for second place

[00:47:52] no it is great mentality

[00:47:54] the thing is it is great mentality

[00:47:56] and it's basically in Arsenal's hands

[00:47:58] and it's in city's hands right like city

[00:48:00] but at the same time

[00:48:02] Arsenal still have a job to do

[00:48:04] they still should win all their remaining games

[00:48:06] they will win them in the best possible position

[00:48:08] yeah

[00:48:10] and we can only hope that man city

[00:48:12] falter at some point

[00:48:14] they didn't against Nottingham forest

[00:48:16] clean 2-0 victory for them

[00:48:18] Erling Harland also getting back

[00:48:20] on the score sheet but

[00:48:22] I think Guardiola scored

[00:48:24] against him

[00:48:26] I was like how about that

[00:48:28] because

[00:48:30] because you know Salah and Nunez are missing over these like elite strikeers

[00:48:32] or whatever

[00:48:34] and they are getting expensive signing and there

[00:48:36] Guardiola is signing from a Kevin Dubro and assistant

[00:48:38] and Kyle Walker is pulling his nose

[00:48:40] I'm like what the f**k are you doing

[00:48:42] I'm like what the f**king dying in Gangs of Hasebohra

[00:48:45] no but I feel like

[00:48:47] city have looked a little shaky this season

[00:48:50] and purely by the fact that

[00:48:52] they are knocked out of the Champions League

[00:48:54] and

[00:48:56] they did not win the Carabao Cup

[00:48:58] so that's 2 out of 4 trophies

[00:49:00] possibly for them that they haven't won

[00:49:02] which just is weird for a team like Man City

[00:49:05] and they have had even in the league

[00:49:07] some really shocking sort of results

[00:49:10] so there is somewhere like a

[00:49:12] 0.1% possibility that they might

[00:49:14] drop points and Guardiola also said

[00:49:16] if we draw any of the games we are out of the game

[00:49:18] so he's put the pressure on Arsenal

[00:49:20] he's very smart what he's done

[00:49:22] he's put the pressure on Arsenal saying that listen

[00:49:24] if we make any mistakes

[00:49:26] we are out but that means you also have to

[00:49:28] make no mistakes if you want to

[00:49:30] so that's really smart mind games from him

[00:49:34] but yeah we shall see it looks like

[00:49:36] city are inevitably

[00:49:38] speaking of this Arsenal Tottenham

[00:49:40] did you see like

[00:49:41] Son trying to be mean like

[00:49:43] he's got the penalty

[00:49:44] they all ran to get the ball

[00:49:46] and he comes back

[00:49:47] and then he quickly turns back to the fans

[00:49:49] and goes ehh he turns back

[00:49:51] he felt like he had to do that one little

[00:49:53] rubbing it into Arsenal fans face

[00:49:55] which I loved he was like after celebrate

[00:49:57] after do something mean

[00:49:58] it's a dhabi game

[00:50:00] after give

[00:50:01] but do you think after that he also went and he apologised to them

[00:50:04] I'm sure he did

[00:50:05] I would not even be surprised he apologised

[00:50:08] yeah

[00:50:09] did you see Ben White

[00:50:11] pulling off the gloves on Raya

[00:50:13] they were having an argument at some point

[00:50:15] at some set piece he's standing right behind

[00:50:17] so you know Raya on Vicario

[00:50:19] and he puts his hands slightly

[00:50:22] on his glove and he pulls off the strap

[00:50:26] and I just loved it

[00:50:27] Arsenal being all clinical about all of the games

[00:50:30] there's so much human element in Shithausery

[00:50:32] left in them

[00:50:33] so like

[00:50:34] yeah I think

[00:50:35] Arsenal were

[00:50:36] yeah

[00:50:37] like it got into Arsenal's head after that David Raya

[00:50:40] like that's when in the last 25 minutes or whatever

[00:50:42] it became a dhabi game

[00:50:44] but before that it was just like

[00:50:46] clinical like it doesn't matter if it's Tottenham or anybody

[00:50:48] it does not matter

[00:50:50] finally let's go to Aston Villa

[00:50:52] to Chelsea to Villa letting

[00:50:54] two nil leads slip up

[00:50:56] but man Noni Maduike was in great form

[00:50:59] for a while he's been in great form

[00:51:01] I loved it

[00:51:02] I mean

[00:51:03] I don't know he's one of those guys know that

[00:51:05] they just want to keep him on the bench

[00:51:07] he comes in the last

[00:51:08] in the 60th, 70th minute

[00:51:09] he just has some insane pace

[00:51:11] great passing and just

[00:51:14] he gets the ball in

[00:51:16] but occasionally when these two start him

[00:51:19] I know I don't think he started this game

[00:51:21] he also came off the bench I think for this one as well

[00:51:24] yeah

[00:51:25] so he's a proven guy

[00:51:27] I wouldn't be surprised if he's going out on loan next season

[00:51:30] or if he's sold off

[00:51:32] I mean they need to clear out that score for sure

[00:51:35] so I don't know if Maduike being

[00:51:38] let go is a good idea

[00:51:40] not because he is actually playing well for them

[00:51:42] such a great player

[00:51:43] potential

[00:51:44] Conag Gallagher's goal was a f**king hell

[00:51:48] do you think Chelsea level player though

[00:51:50] what a fluke wala goal I think it

[00:51:52] it felt like little

[00:51:53] I was gonna say that

[00:51:54] yeah

[00:51:55] no no I don't want to sound bitter

[00:51:56] no no

[00:51:57] it felt like it

[00:51:58] because he just went for an attempt

[00:51:59] like he's done

[00:52:00] he's made several attempts like this

[00:52:02] in the past

[00:52:03] but he's just like dead on and he's taken the shot

[00:52:05] but in this case

[00:52:06] I don't know if he had a clear angle to it

[00:52:08] it felt like he was trying to pass

[00:52:10] so he's just like trying to get a deflection or something

[00:52:12] from the keeper

[00:52:13] no no I don't think he was trying to pass

[00:52:14] I just feel like he said lamp out

[00:52:16] and he just said that

[00:52:17] he's just saying lamp out

[00:52:18] I mean it doesn't mean it was very good

[00:52:19] it was a very good goal

[00:52:20] but I did feel like

[00:52:22] Cole Palmer should have won the game

[00:52:23] that last chance was

[00:52:25] I was so cruel

[00:52:26] it was incredible

[00:52:28] when he received the ball only

[00:52:29] I was like ok it's over

[00:52:30] gone finished

[00:52:32] because he didn't guide through defenders

[00:52:34] he went through two players

[00:52:36] how do you have the calmness to get

[00:52:38] through two players in front of the big B

[00:52:41] and reduce it to a one on one situation

[00:52:44] with the keeper

[00:52:45] and he's not playing one or something like that

[00:52:47] it's incredible

[00:52:48] you remember the old FIFA

[00:52:50] like FIFA 98 and all

[00:52:52] you could just run through the entire opposition

[00:52:55] Mug you've played FIFA 98

[00:52:57] with the jerseys on

[00:52:58] I wouldn't be surprised if Mug was sitting with the jersey

[00:53:00] and playing the game also

[00:53:02] oh wow I was like for my first FIFA was

[00:53:04] 2009 or 10 I think

[00:53:06] because you're a child

[00:53:08] yeah I was like wow

[00:53:09] FIFA 98

[00:53:11] this is the France one

[00:53:13] yeah

[00:53:14] ok then I remember this one

[00:53:15] you could walk through the entire defence

[00:53:18] it was fascinating

[00:53:20] nobody would put in a title

[00:53:21] you could just walk through

[00:53:23] that's what Kul Pamu

[00:53:24] I felt really bad that he didn't finish that

[00:53:26] because he is in my FPL team

[00:53:28] and I have triple captained him

[00:53:30] ooh

[00:53:32] shit

[00:53:33] bastard

[00:53:34] right on that note

[00:53:35] it is time to end this episode

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