In this episode, I am speaking to Vanessa Zamy, Business Expert, Keynote Speaker, and Bestselling Author.
Vanessa is a dedicated to helping full-time employees’ transition to entrepreneurship by growing their business while employed.
Her company, Your Vision's Catalyst, consults 9-to-5ers on how to fix your hustle so you can grow a profit-producing, purpose-driven business without the overwhelm.
With a focus on efficiency and effectiveness, Vanessa Zamy works with ambitious, purpose-led solopreneurs, to take care of their life while also taking care of business.
Her motto: keep it simple, then keep it movin’!
Listen for Vanessa’s Can Do tips:
- Do not take 7 figure advice for your 3 figure business.
- Do not quit your day job until you have the option to do so.
- Get help to learn, develop and grow the business you want to build.
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Speaker 1: Hi I'm Gail Gibbs accredited Master performance coach, international speaker,
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Speaker 1: podcast host and author known as the can do coach.
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Speaker 1: I thrive on enabling leaders to step up, shake it
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Speaker 1: off and shine.
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Speaker 1: Mhm
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Speaker 1: Welcome to my podcast that can do way
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Speaker 1: Mhm
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Speaker 2: This episode, I'm speaking to Vanessa's AMY
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Speaker 1: business expert, keynote speaker and best selling author
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Speaker 1: Vanessa is dedicated to helping full time employees transition to
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurship by growing their business while employed
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Speaker 1: her company. Your visions catalyst consults nine to fivers on
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Speaker 1: how to fix your hustle so you can grow a
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Speaker 1: profit producing,
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Speaker 2: purpose driven business
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Speaker 1: without the overwhelm
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Speaker 1: with a focus on efficiency and effectiveness. Vanessa works with
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Speaker 1: ambitious purpose led solar Preneurs to take care of their
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Speaker 1: life while also taking care of business.
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Speaker 1: Her motto, Keep it simple, then keep it moving!
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Speaker 2: Welcome
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Speaker 1: today Vanessa,
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Speaker 2: thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here. Wonderful! Wonderful!
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Speaker 2: So
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Speaker 1: the first thing I'd like to ask you then Vanessa
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Speaker 1: is can we take a short walk through your life
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Speaker 1: if you can give us a glimpse of your background
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Speaker 1: and how you arrived at helping employees transition with success
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Speaker 1: to self employment?
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Speaker 1: Three
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Speaker 2: Yes, happy to share. And so man who want to
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Speaker 2: start off in life. But what I will say, I
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Speaker 2: work our backwards. So essentially what I do now is
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Speaker 2: I am a business consultant speaker and best selling author
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, and I focused on essentially helping people, corporate,
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Speaker 2: high achieving women who have hit the ceiling in their
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Speaker 2: day job, really take
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Speaker 2: their side business to the next level so that they
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Speaker 2: can transition happily and calmly. And for me, essentially, I
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Speaker 2: started my business, your visions catalyst, which I consult these
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Speaker 2: women and these entrepreneurs. I started my business essentially while
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Speaker 2: doing my day job and so did my started my
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Speaker 2: business all doing my day job and then have since
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Speaker 2: transition though, out of that and into full time entrepreneurship.
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Speaker 2: But essentially I understand what my clients are going through
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Speaker 2: and I help them do the same and in terms of,
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Speaker 2: you know, take a couple years back, how do I
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Speaker 2: even get to entrepreneurship? So I wasn't really necessarily one
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Speaker 2: of those people who, you know, oh, I had like
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Speaker 2: a lemonade, someone else, but like, no, essentially, I don't
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Speaker 2: get to entrepreneurship until later in life. Um and really
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Speaker 2: just reading Rich dad, Poor Dad was the book that
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Speaker 2: changed my perspective
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Speaker 2: um in terms, and I don't agree with everything that
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Speaker 2: robert Kiyosaki says,
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Speaker 2: But in terms of that book itself was definitely profound
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Speaker 2: and just teaching me a different way of thinking and
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Speaker 2: also just showing a different way of life. So at
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Speaker 2: the time I had been in corporate America before that
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Speaker 2: had been working for like over 10 years for different
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Speaker 2: nonprofit organizations. And really when I went to the for
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Speaker 2: profit space,
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Speaker 2: it was just, it was just bad balls after bad boss,
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Speaker 2: just bad at spring. Like it was just a lot. Um,
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Speaker 2: it was a negative a lot and it was just
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Speaker 2: like one of those things where I said, okay, I
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Speaker 2: looked at my life and I said,
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Speaker 2: I did not make it through all the stuff that
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Speaker 2: I made it through to be here and be miserable,
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Speaker 2: like this is just not a thing and there's no
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Speaker 2: reason why I should be doing for another 30 years,
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Speaker 2: but I didn't know an alternative way down. I did
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Speaker 2: not know an alternative way. And so for me, I
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Speaker 2: was just going through the motions and sound until I
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Speaker 2: read that book with that poor Dad that I finally realized,
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Speaker 2: oh
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Speaker 2: at least in America, like this thing called entrepreneurship and
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Speaker 2: like it's actually a way that people get their freedom. OMT.
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Speaker 2: And so that is essentially
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Speaker 2: how then a couple months later after that, I would
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Speaker 2: then wake up in a trance with your visions, catalyst,
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Speaker 2: name my consulting company. And so that is, yeah, and
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Speaker 2: the rest is history, I guess you can say then,
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Speaker 2: you know, a best selling book later, um, and a
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Speaker 2: couple of more podcast interviews or communities, different communities. It
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Speaker 2: never event, etcetera was even reported at my day job.
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Speaker 2: I also building this business,
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Speaker 2: um, it took those six figures and put it back
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Speaker 2: into my business um but yeah, but essentially with that
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Speaker 2: being said, now I'm here today and excited to get further, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: fantastic. What an introduction and you know, it's
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Speaker 1: I love doing this show for that very reason that
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Speaker 1: I get to hear these wonderful stories of growth and
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Speaker 1: resilience and then the success that comes as a result
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Speaker 1: of all of that, but what, while I was listening
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Speaker 1: to your introduction, it said to me that you had
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Speaker 1: that awakening, you know, you said you picked up robert,
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Speaker 1: Kiyosaki is book, which I have also read
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Speaker 1: um and it gave you that chance to say there
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Speaker 1: is a different way they can do things differently in
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Speaker 1: my life and and also the fact that you have
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Speaker 1: walked your talk, that you created your business, your, your
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Speaker 1: vision catalyst organization whilst you were working, so
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Speaker 1: you've built so much resilience to all of those knocks
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Speaker 1: as well that you were talking about bad bosses negative experiences,
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Speaker 1: so you're in a great position to be working with
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Speaker 1: the high achieving women
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Speaker 1: that you that you are your ideal clients now,
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Speaker 1: if we can just take a step back then into
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Speaker 1: your while you were working in corporate still,
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Speaker 1: what
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Speaker 2: what was that? Some of
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Speaker 1: the first things that you had to do? So what
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Speaker 1: were some of the first challenges that you faced when
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Speaker 1: you wanted to
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Speaker 1: make your
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Speaker 1: side hustle more and you wanted to make that transition
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Speaker 1: from corporate to self employment?
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Speaker 2: Yes, great questions, so
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Speaker 2: I do, there were a couple of challenges, well, because
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Speaker 2: first of all it's you know, the sort of
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Speaker 2: the common perception, so to speak out there is like,
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Speaker 2: oh you know, burn the bridges just like, you know, go,
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Speaker 2: you know, well, robert you talking to tell you to do,
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Speaker 2: go homeless and then make work for other people, essentially.
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Speaker 2: This whole like homeless, glamorous story that people have, right?
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Speaker 2: And so it definitely wasn't the norm for me to say, okay, yes,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make this business happened while doing my day
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Speaker 2: job and you know, it's definitely not an easy thing.
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Speaker 2: So some of the challenges, essentially, I went through that
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Speaker 2: whole thing, even of, you know, being that I'm sort
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Speaker 2: of like the time queen, I call myself um and
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Speaker 2: I wasn't really great at getting stuff done and goals
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Speaker 2: in my life and people, I've had friends, family, strangers,
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Speaker 2: everyone always coming up to me ever since I was 13,
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Speaker 2: you know, asking me Vanessa,
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Speaker 2: how do you do it?
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Speaker 2: Um each year, some of those different states, different stage.
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Speaker 2: Um but such as getting stuff done has never been
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Speaker 2: stranger to me, but definitely in terms of growing a
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Speaker 2: business while doing a day job, you know, demanding day
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Speaker 2: job and you know, at the same time, you know,
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Speaker 2: still trying to go up that ladder, so to speak
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Speaker 2: and you know, prove myself and all that jazz,
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Speaker 2: um, so to speak. And that definitely came with their
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Speaker 2: own set of challenges I hadn't face prior, but some
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Speaker 2: of those challenges, for example, the main one, um that
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Speaker 2: I definitely also see my client's experience too, but it's
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Speaker 2: sort of the idea that, oh my gosh, you know,
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Speaker 2: you do the business, you to start the business, you're
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Speaker 2: doing stuff and then it's just like, well, you know,
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Speaker 2: if I just quit my day job, I would have
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Speaker 2: so much more time. You know, I have so much
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Speaker 2: more time man and then if I had so much
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Speaker 2: more time,
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Speaker 2: like who, like talk about success, it would just come
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Speaker 2: all over, right? OMG. And so they'll start just up, right?
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Speaker 2: And when I reflect back and even when I, you
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Speaker 2: know when I
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Speaker 1: got in my
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Speaker 2: stocks,
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Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, when I
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Speaker 2: tell them I'm gonna stay here, it's
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Speaker 2: time is not the issue, right? And for me, I've
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Speaker 2: had a best friend, best friendship with time, Time is
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Speaker 2: my best friend. I have to say I've had a
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Speaker 2: best friendship um what time for a while? It wasn't
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Speaker 2: until about 89 years ago when I finally realized it.
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Speaker 2: Um but we had a little moment me and time,
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Speaker 2: but essentially um
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Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, it's time is not the issue, right?
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Speaker 2: And I think when I think about those moments when
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Speaker 2: I was telling myself, man if I just quit my job,
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Speaker 2: I have one more time, it was really just me
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Speaker 2: and justify, you know, leaving a job, so to speak
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Speaker 2: with my business, really wasn't ready for me to leave
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Speaker 2: at all. And it comes down to it. And because
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Speaker 2: I think about even just where I was at the
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Speaker 2: beginning of the business, to where I am, even just now,
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Speaker 2: right at the moment, I was when I actually quit
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Speaker 2: the job,
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Speaker 2: right?
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Speaker 2: There was a level of like when I quit the
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Speaker 2: job level of calmness, right? There's a level of I
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Speaker 2: know the strategy I'm moving forward with, there's a level
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Speaker 2: of clarity, right, and focus and direction that I was
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Speaker 2: moving forward with my business when I left my, when
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Speaker 2: I was like, a one month notice to my employer, right?
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Speaker 2: And when I actually left my day job, compared to
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Speaker 2: way back in the beginning when I was having those
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Speaker 2: thoughts of man, if I decide
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Speaker 2: quit the job, I had so much more time, Right?
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Speaker 2: But really those thoughts were coming from
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Speaker 2: a sort of, you know, desire necessity to get out
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Speaker 2: of the toxic environment. But at the same time it
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Speaker 2: was like trying to make it excuse. It was a
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Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff, right? But I know that if
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Speaker 2: I had just left at that point, I would have
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Speaker 2: been calm, I would've been financially stressed. I would have been,
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Speaker 2: you know, that would have led to poor decisions in
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Speaker 2: my business and that would have led to even more just,
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Speaker 2: I mean, a disastrous business. Who knows? Your business? Colours
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Speaker 2: would even be alive today, right? If I, you know,
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Speaker 2: decided to make to make the earlier step in the past.
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Speaker 2: And so yes, I do. I've always had confidence in myself.
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Speaker 2: I was always believed in myself, but I'm also an
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Speaker 2: optimistic realist. I call myself an optimistic realist to turn
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Speaker 2: my corns myself back in 2015. But essentially it's,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's like, yes, optimistically absolutely. I will get
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Speaker 2: to my empire and we'll build a bit all that jazz,
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Speaker 2: but realistically speaking at the time, right, in the beginning stages,
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Speaker 2: but it was just like,
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Speaker 2: I'm just doing stuff right, Like I don't know where
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Speaker 2: I'm going and I'm gonna get there eventually, but I'm
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Speaker 2: just doing stuff right? And so for me leaving a
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Speaker 2: day job,
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Speaker 2: but I've just been irresponsible and like, this is a
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Speaker 2: terrible way to set up my business right where I
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Speaker 2: did it, and that I was able to use that first.
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Speaker 2: I was able to get promoted at my day job. Still,
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Speaker 2: even while growing my business at the same time writing
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Speaker 2: a book at the same time, um, you know,
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Speaker 2: starting communities and losing weight of Jazz, right? And sleeping,
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Speaker 2: sleeping eight hours of sleep at night as well too.
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Speaker 2: And so I was still able to make that all happened.
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Speaker 2: I was able to take that promotion that raised that
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Speaker 2: bonus and put it back into my business, right? Which
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Speaker 2: allow me to hire a team and get support all
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Speaker 2: the sort of things of that nature. But when it
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Speaker 2: comes down to it is when I think that big
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Speaker 2: challenge was really just
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Speaker 2: wanting to leave earlier, but not really being like mentally ready,
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Speaker 2: but even just like business ready to
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Speaker 1: leave, I'm gonna come
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Speaker 2: down to it. It's a
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Speaker 1: really great point to just pause on there because
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Speaker 1: what you're sharing is I love the term you've created
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Speaker 1: for yourself. The optimistic, the optimistic realist. Because,
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Speaker 1: You know, I took a leap of faith back in
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Speaker 1: 2005 to set up my first business and I followed
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Speaker 1: a similar path to you. And it's
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Speaker 1: you have to look at what's going on around you
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Speaker 1: and you have to be real about the fact that
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Speaker 1: what will this do to the family finances? What will
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Speaker 1: it do in the short and the longer term, if
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Speaker 1: you just suddenly threw the towel in and walk away?
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Speaker 1: Because as you said,
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Speaker 1: why put yourself into
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Speaker 1: a stressful situation which creates more risk and it's unhealthy
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Speaker 1: for us, and it's unhealthy for mindset and being able
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Speaker 1: to actually deliver the best of ourselves in the new
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Speaker 1: business that we are wanting to run.
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Speaker 1: So that that's such valuable advice to share with the
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Speaker 1: listeners about giving yourself the time to actually think what
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Speaker 1: is the real value of me staying
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Speaker 1: building and then taking that time to actually go now
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Speaker 1: is the right time to go.
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Speaker 1: But I just, the thread coming through from you two
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Speaker 1: was the Time Queen analogy that you said you have
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Speaker 1: penned for yourself as well, Vanessa, your sense of productivity
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Speaker 1: and being able to manage time. How do you think
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Speaker 1: that that has really
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Speaker 1: helped you more than anything else to be able to
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Speaker 1: make that transition even smoother in the process? And how
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Speaker 1: does it then
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Speaker 1: impact a lot of the work that you deliver to
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Speaker 1: the women you are working with?
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Speaker 2: Yes, that is a great question, Gail. So, in terms of,
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Speaker 2: you know, the work that I do in terms of
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Speaker 2: productivity and it's a really big factor in it because
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Speaker 2: for me, I'm all about helping people take care of
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Speaker 2: the business. Also taking care of their life, right? I
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Speaker 2: do not believe your business on your life, your business
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Speaker 2: should be a lovely supplement to add to your life, right?
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Speaker 2: Should be taken away. And what happens a lot is
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Speaker 2: that I mean even even full time entrepreneurs who are
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Speaker 2: don't have business don't have a day job and they
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Speaker 2: were just like single and I was about right even
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Speaker 2: they come to me like Vanessa, how do you do,
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Speaker 2: even when I was when I had my business with
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Speaker 2: my day job and I was doing all this marketing,
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Speaker 2: all that stuff, right. People were still coming up to
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Speaker 2: be full time entrepreneur ST Vanessa, how do you do it? Right.
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Speaker 2: And the thing is that every entrepreneur faces this, but
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Speaker 2: there's this particular challenge with the person and I get
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Speaker 2: a lot of clients who are also,
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Speaker 2: so they have the data and they have a business,
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Speaker 2: but they also like mothers, right? Their parents and have
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Speaker 2: a family. And so it's also just that additional hat
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Speaker 2: that they wear in life and I find that essentially
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Speaker 2: can be overwhelmed, can easily come into planet
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Speaker 2: and unfortunately this overwhelmed is busy
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Speaker 2: becomes like normal place because I was doing this even
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Speaker 2: before Covid now during covid, you know, during the pandemic,
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Speaker 2: what had happened was that people became more aware that
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Speaker 2: you know, there's a different way to live life other
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Speaker 2: than an overwhelming um and in business, but definitely I
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Speaker 2: was doing this work even before the pandemic and it's
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Speaker 2: definitely unfortunate that you know, people
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Speaker 2: made it sort of normal of like, oh yes, you're overwhelmed,
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Speaker 2: that's that's the way life it is, isn't it? Right?
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Speaker 2: Um and as people realize it's not the case, right?
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Speaker 2: And the thing is that even if you have a
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Speaker 2: business in a day job or you have a business
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Speaker 2: day job and mother, right? Even if you're wearing all
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Speaker 2: the hats, doing all the things do not, does not
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Speaker 2: have to be stressful,
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Speaker 2: right? Doing all the things does not mean you go
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Speaker 2: to sleep at like three a.m. And wake up at
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Speaker 2: five AM every day and that's like your night, right?
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Speaker 2: And maybe you don't, maybe you do believe in sleep, right?
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Speaker 2: If you do believe in sleep to get yourself some
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Speaker 2: sleep right? If you don't believe in sleep, then make
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Speaker 2: sure you do probably something that you do believe in,
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Speaker 2: that stuff, stuff that you really want to do, whether
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Speaker 2: it be hanging out with friends or yoga or peloton bike,
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Speaker 2: whatever it may be. but essentially it is what I
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Speaker 2: find with people just like, it's always a question. The
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Speaker 2: first question I asked when I do sort of a
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Speaker 2: time on it, I call it with my clients, but it's,
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Speaker 2: you know, what are those non negotiables, what is it
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Speaker 2: that you need,
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Speaker 2: what needs to happen in order for you to take
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Speaker 2: care of yourself to feel good about yourself? Right. Whether
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Speaker 2: it be the date night with the spouse on friday
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Speaker 2: or dinner with the kids at six PM every night
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Speaker 2: or family night or it's just being by yourself in
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Speaker 2: the salon or you know, um, going on a vacation
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Speaker 2: every quarter or whatever it may be. But what is
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Speaker 2: it that we need to ensure that is in place
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Speaker 2: number one.
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Speaker 2: Before we even think about all the business stuff, before
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Speaker 2: we think about all the other life goals, career goals, etcetera,
00:14:53
Speaker 2: what is it that needs to happen on a weekly, daily, monthly,
00:14:56
Speaker 2: quarterly basis for you to feel good about yourself? Right.
00:14:59
Speaker 2: And then from there, everything else sort of falls into
00:15:01
Speaker 2: place because what I always say to people like you
00:15:03
Speaker 2: are the core of your business, you are the core
00:15:05
Speaker 2: of your life, but you're also the core of your
00:15:06
Speaker 2: business and especially as a solo preneurs, when you're in
00:15:09
Speaker 2: those stages of business where you haven't yet made that
00:15:11
Speaker 2: transition into full time entrepreneurship or you're essentially still starting out,
00:15:15
Speaker 2: but it's you have this business your solo right? And
00:15:18
Speaker 2: as much as people, I know I've met a lot
00:15:20
Speaker 2: of people when they say man, you know, I just
00:15:23
Speaker 2: want to find someone with the same passion as me,
00:15:25
Speaker 2: with my business and you know, they can come in
00:15:27
Speaker 2: with me and do it with me and here's the thing,
00:15:29
Speaker 2: there's a reason why you started that business because you
00:15:31
Speaker 2: are the one with the vision the passion, right? No
00:15:33
Speaker 2: one's gonna have the same amount of passion as you
00:15:35
Speaker 2: do for your own business, right? And so at the
00:15:37
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's really at a matter of
00:15:40
Speaker 2: understanding and ensuring that you are showing up for your business,
00:15:43
Speaker 2: you are showing up for your leader and your prospects
00:15:45
Speaker 2: and your clients and your customers and you know, your
00:15:47
Speaker 2: your partnerships and all those things because if you don't
00:15:51
Speaker 2: show up, no one else will always give an example
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Speaker 2: of
00:15:53
Speaker 2: a cafe owner and it's like, you know, the cafe
00:15:56
Speaker 2: owner has a cafe shop, it's a brick and mortar shop,
00:15:59
Speaker 2: you know, it's nice, comfortably there on the side of
00:16:01
Speaker 2: the street. You know, within one day the cafe owner
00:16:03
Speaker 2: decides to wake up
00:16:05
Speaker 2: and not go to the cafe there, just like you
00:16:07
Speaker 2: know what? I'm tired, I don't fly showing up
00:16:09
Speaker 2: so they don't show up and that there is a
00:16:11
Speaker 2: cafe still on the street. People walk by this by
00:16:13
Speaker 2: the cafe, they're like oh my God, it's so pretty.
00:16:15
Speaker 2: Look at that design, oh my gosh, so cute. Let
00:16:17
Speaker 2: me go inside. And then they go to the door
00:16:20
Speaker 2: and it's closed. But the sign says that it should
00:16:21
Speaker 2: be open. So they're confused, right, unreliable. They go to
00:16:24
Speaker 2: the next cafe across the street, they go to Starbucks,
00:16:26
Speaker 2: go to feel they go to piece together what? Already
00:16:28
Speaker 2: that they go, but it's not your cafe,
00:16:29
Speaker 2: right? Because you didn't show up, You didn't allow the
00:16:31
Speaker 2: transaction that happened because you didn't show up, right? And
00:16:33
Speaker 2: the thing is that
00:16:35
Speaker 2: the whole point of it is not necessarily you have
00:16:36
Speaker 2: to be open every single day, right? Because the whole
00:16:40
Speaker 2: point of having a business run through your life is
00:16:42
Speaker 2: ensuring that you are creating a business that works for you.
00:16:45
Speaker 2: So I always work with my clients, reason I work
00:16:46
Speaker 2: my client's private one on one business consulting is because
00:16:50
Speaker 2: it really is about ensuring that they have the right
00:16:52
Speaker 2: marketing strategy, the right business model that works for their life,
00:16:55
Speaker 2: right? And so like I have one client now where
00:16:57
Speaker 2: she only has two hours a week to work on
00:16:58
Speaker 2: her business,
00:16:59
Speaker 2: I have another client who has like 20 hours a
00:17:00
Speaker 2: week to work on her business, Right? And so those
00:17:03
Speaker 2: are gonna be different types of tasks of different types
00:17:04
Speaker 2: of responsibilities that each person is gonna be able to
00:17:07
Speaker 2: do and accomplish within their business, but they're still gonna
00:17:10
Speaker 2: be able to have a successful business. Right? And so
00:17:12
Speaker 2: maybe you're a cafe owner, you can't make it six
00:17:14
Speaker 2: days a week, that's fine, make it three days a week.
00:17:15
Speaker 2: I have one client where there's a home decor business,
00:17:18
Speaker 2: it's only open once a month
00:17:20
Speaker 2: in the brick and mortar store. Only open once a
00:17:22
Speaker 2: month in the brick and mortar store, Right? But essentially
00:17:24
Speaker 2: the end of the day it's and now she has
00:17:26
Speaker 2: uh she was able to add on to bring her
00:17:28
Speaker 2: family as well to into the mix. But she her
00:17:30
Speaker 2: business is booming. She works one day a month. The
00:17:32
Speaker 2: stores open for business is booming, right? And so it's
00:17:35
Speaker 2: really a matter of understanding what is the business model
00:17:37
Speaker 2: and type and strategy
00:17:39
Speaker 2: that you need to implement that still works
00:17:41
Speaker 2: within the confines of what you want for your life
00:17:44
Speaker 2: and how it is that you want to live your
00:17:45
Speaker 2: life as you do your business, there's no need for
00:17:47
Speaker 2: this whole sacrificial like thing that people talk about when
00:17:50
Speaker 2: it comes to building your business
00:17:53
Speaker 1: very well put. And so so much mindset involved in
00:17:57
Speaker 1: there as well, Vanessa that you helping your clients to
00:18:02
Speaker 1: really think about
00:18:03
Speaker 1: the impact of
00:18:06
Speaker 1: what their business is going to do for them in
00:18:10
Speaker 1: their own lives, but how it's going to how, as
00:18:13
Speaker 1: you said that word about showing up, but are they
00:18:15
Speaker 1: going to show up in a healthy, energetic dynamic way
00:18:21
Speaker 1: or are they going to maybe not not open up
00:18:24
Speaker 1: for the day, as you said, with the cafe owner,
00:18:27
Speaker 1: But it's so much of organization and time management for
00:18:31
Speaker 1: any business is around mindset and you have to you
00:18:35
Speaker 1: have to get into that way of being to be
00:18:38
Speaker 1: able to deliver the best of yourself. So how do
00:18:41
Speaker 1: you then manage to walk your talk? So what is
00:18:45
Speaker 1: it that you do
00:18:47
Speaker 1: to step away from your business and to recharge yourself
00:18:51
Speaker 1: and to reset?
00:18:52
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Gail. So my mantra, I would
00:18:55
Speaker 2: start by saying my mantra is have fun,
00:18:58
Speaker 2: Make money and share. Yes, and it definitely is a
00:19:03
Speaker 2: mantra that I'm living up to, especially in the year 2021,
00:19:05
Speaker 2: but really it's about, you know, because, you know, last
00:19:08
Speaker 2: year was like, the fund was limited, but because I
00:19:11
Speaker 2: was in California at the time in the beginning of
00:19:12
Speaker 2: the pandemic and so it's definitely really restricted. But then
00:19:16
Speaker 2: essentially
00:19:17
Speaker 2: shifted into going back to my, where I was raised,
00:19:20
Speaker 2: um in one of the towns I was raising, it
00:19:22
Speaker 2: went back to family and friends and had some laughter,
00:19:24
Speaker 2: I was able to get some fun in there, and now,
00:19:27
Speaker 2: especially as things you open up even more, the way
00:19:29
Speaker 2: that I step out is like just
00:19:31
Speaker 2: doing, hanging out with peers, right? And so I think
00:19:34
Speaker 2: about even this past week just went out to brunch
00:19:36
Speaker 2: with a friend um and had some like lobster that
00:19:39
Speaker 2: I got my hands messy in, and it was fun
00:19:42
Speaker 2: um and then I have myself like a tres leches
00:19:44
Speaker 2: cake that I was like, really big, it was, it
00:19:46
Speaker 2: was a really great moment before that, the week before that,
00:19:49
Speaker 2: I just was like, I'm gonna move fast enough to
00:19:51
Speaker 2: get into, but um listen to myself and then, but
00:19:55
Speaker 2: I've also taken up some kickboxing classes as well too,
00:19:58
Speaker 2: and so I've been doing that as well, so that's recent,
00:20:00
Speaker 2: that the first class was like last week, that's real recent,
00:20:02
Speaker 2: and so I was also kickboxing classes and then also
00:20:05
Speaker 2: started back up in terms of running earlier this year
00:20:08
Speaker 2: with profound, like a running buddy running partner in the neighborhood.
00:20:12
Speaker 2: Never met this person before. We met up, we now
00:20:14
Speaker 2: run every single week as well, and the chit chat
00:20:17
Speaker 2: and walk and enjoy the nature um and the sun
00:20:20
Speaker 2: and all that jazz, what else do I do? Yeah,
00:20:22
Speaker 2: pretty much. I try to do some fun every single week,
00:20:24
Speaker 2: so sometimes last week I wanna know what the last week,
00:20:26
Speaker 2: the week before I went on a picnic um met
00:20:28
Speaker 2: some new people as well, so that's exactly what I
00:20:31
Speaker 2: do is it's going out there and just having fun
00:20:33
Speaker 2: and having experiences is what I do.
00:20:35
Speaker 1: Fantastic, that's wonderful. And you know, I'm sure you've got
00:20:38
Speaker 1: clients who say to you, how do you fit all
00:20:41
Speaker 1: of that in? But because you manage your time, so
00:20:44
Speaker 1: effectively being the time queen that you are, you enable
00:20:48
Speaker 1: yourself to say
00:20:50
Speaker 1: this time off for me is a priority and it
00:20:53
Speaker 1: really is what we need, isn't it? Like you say
00:20:56
Speaker 1: you need that fund in your life, you need to
00:20:57
Speaker 1: do something completely different to the work that we do,
00:21:01
Speaker 1: because
00:21:02
Speaker 1: I'm sure you find, and I find as well when
00:21:04
Speaker 1: you go out and do that you come back with
00:21:07
Speaker 1: so much more creativity and passion and drive for your
00:21:12
Speaker 1: own business. But at the same time
00:21:14
Speaker 1: you just you just opened up the next question I'd
00:21:17
Speaker 1: like to ask you then is you said you have
00:21:20
Speaker 1: paired up with a new running buddy and you went
00:21:23
Speaker 1: on a picnic and you met a few new people
00:21:26
Speaker 1: in terms of networking for business because it's so vital.
00:21:30
Speaker 1: We're building our tribe and we're building our client base
00:21:32
Speaker 1: and everything else.
00:21:34
Speaker 1: How much value do you put in those more um
00:21:39
Speaker 1: just personal transactions that happened rather than it being formal networking?
00:21:43
Speaker 1: How do you,
00:21:44
Speaker 1: how do you see that as a way that people
00:21:46
Speaker 1: can also grow their businesses?
00:21:49
Speaker 2: Yes. And so and I will purposes by saying so
00:21:51
Speaker 2: before the pandemic, I was doing my business pretty much
00:21:54
Speaker 2: was running on networking. And it wasn't until actually like
00:21:57
Speaker 2: the pandemic happened and I said, let me start a
00:21:59
Speaker 2: facebook business page. Um so I will say that we
00:22:02
Speaker 2: preface that. And so now suddenly what I do is
00:22:04
Speaker 2: I'm getting back into that networking cycle because it is
00:22:07
Speaker 2: important essentially and really support. And for me,
00:22:10
Speaker 2: you know, it's uh each business is kind of is
00:22:13
Speaker 2: a little bit different in terms of, you know, how
00:22:14
Speaker 2: the network supports you. But for me specifically my ideal
00:22:17
Speaker 2: client is a person who they have a day job. They're,
00:22:21
Speaker 2: you know, they've hit a ceiling and at some point
00:22:22
Speaker 2: eventually started their business, but they still have this business
00:22:26
Speaker 2: and they still also have to stay job right? But
00:22:27
Speaker 2: they're looking to transition at some point in time and
00:22:30
Speaker 2: get to that space of time freedom and financial freedom
00:22:32
Speaker 2: in their life. Now, the thing about it is that
00:22:35
Speaker 2: you know, people who have a day job and a business,
00:22:38
Speaker 2: they're not necessarily out here, like I have a day
00:22:40
Speaker 2: job and business, they're trying to hide it from the employer,
00:22:42
Speaker 2: you know, like depending on the company they work for
00:22:44
Speaker 2: us all situations. And so for me a network is
00:22:46
Speaker 2: important because they may not be having it out there
00:22:49
Speaker 2: on them that they have a day job in the business,
00:22:51
Speaker 2: but they are telling their friends
00:22:54
Speaker 2: or they're asking the other business owner friends, like a
00:22:56
Speaker 2: business owner friend right? Or do you have people who
00:22:59
Speaker 2: actually are also like the beginning stages of thinking about
00:23:02
Speaker 2: starting a business. So they may not be a client tomorrow,
00:23:04
Speaker 2: there might be a client like two years from now,
00:23:06
Speaker 2: but you know at least in that met me, they
00:23:08
Speaker 2: know me they at least know about business consulting in
00:23:10
Speaker 2: some form or fashion and I've introduced that to them,
00:23:13
Speaker 2: you know in some way. And so for me it's
00:23:15
Speaker 2: actually a service based business owner as a service based
00:23:17
Speaker 2: business owner. It is really important to like have that
00:23:19
Speaker 2: network right? Because everyone anyone is important, you never know
00:23:22
Speaker 2: who you're gonna meet, you never know, right? And
00:23:24
Speaker 2: even even like literally had a conversation earlier today with
00:23:27
Speaker 2: somebody who I met. So there was someone who connected
00:23:29
Speaker 2: with me on facebook back in december january. We met
00:23:32
Speaker 2: on the phone, she's also a fellow coach and we
00:23:34
Speaker 2: literally just met up to like network with each other.
00:23:36
Speaker 2: Um and she just reached out and said, hey, I
00:23:38
Speaker 2: love many other cultures, like, okay, cool. We met up,
00:23:40
Speaker 2: we had a whole conversation affected her with a speaking engagement.
00:23:43
Speaker 2: She texted me with the organization as well too with
00:23:46
Speaker 2: two organizations, um that, you know, are taking speakers for events.
00:23:50
Speaker 2: I hosted a workshop at one of those organizations a
00:23:52
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Um and then she also connected me
00:23:55
Speaker 2: with someone else as well to who
00:23:59
Speaker 2: also has a similar, you know, personality culture person also
00:24:01
Speaker 2: essentially is looking to build up our own brand, but
00:24:04
Speaker 2: also is connected to other organizations in the area. And
00:24:07
Speaker 2: so we just met up earlier today and she was like, OMG,
00:24:10
Speaker 2: I think it would be a great business consultant for
00:24:12
Speaker 2: this organization, I'm a board on, right, so that might
00:24:15
Speaker 2: become a potential client,
00:24:17
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen like six months ago, right?
00:24:19
Speaker 2: And but essentially that's what happens when you just connect
00:24:22
Speaker 2: and you can meet with people, right? And really, at
00:24:24
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's just a great way
00:24:25
Speaker 2: to get information on what's happening, what's happening around, you know,
00:24:29
Speaker 2: around you around business, just being around not only that,
00:24:32
Speaker 2: but it's also like in my book, I call it
00:24:34
Speaker 2: like h for hug it out,
00:24:36
Speaker 2: and it really just having the other people around you, right?
00:24:39
Speaker 2: And I think that for me, at least when I
00:24:40
Speaker 2: started my business and when I entered this entrepreneurship space,
00:24:43
Speaker 2: the reason why I had entered it so late, because
00:24:45
Speaker 2: I didn't have people around me also being entrepreneurs. Like
00:24:48
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in a family of entrepreneurs, like,
00:24:50
Speaker 2: you know, it was very much like, oh, they were nurses,
00:24:53
Speaker 2: they were nurses, aides, okay. They were not people who
00:24:56
Speaker 2: like have businesses, right? And so with that being said,
00:25:00
Speaker 2: it was very much like, okay.
00:25:02
Speaker 2: And then not only that, but yeah, my peer group,
00:25:04
Speaker 2: my peer group,
00:25:05
Speaker 2: they were also on the corporate ladder, so they weren't
00:25:07
Speaker 2: even thinking about entrepreneurs were like, okay, grad school, they
00:25:09
Speaker 2: were like, okay, I'm still moving up on the slider.
00:25:12
Speaker 2: They were like, oh, I had this bad boss, but
00:25:13
Speaker 2: that's okay, that's how it's supposed to be, that was
00:25:15
Speaker 2: there thinking that was their mentality and so
00:25:18
Speaker 2: from the family and the friends, I couldn't really get
00:25:21
Speaker 2: that support, so I have to essentially look outside to
00:25:24
Speaker 2: have to make new friends and I have to make
00:25:26
Speaker 2: some new friends. Okay, So I made some new friends,
00:25:30
Speaker 2: I keep making new friends. Um but essentially, especially that's
00:25:33
Speaker 2: really important just to be able to keep yourself awake
00:25:36
Speaker 2: for other businesses owners really great to keep yourself awake
00:25:38
Speaker 2: on what's happening in business world, but also just to
00:25:40
Speaker 2: stay up today and meet other people because you never
00:25:42
Speaker 2: know what opportunity will come your way, right? But if
00:25:44
Speaker 2: you just stay in your room all day, in your laptop,
00:25:46
Speaker 2: at your desk, just like, you know, by yourself, by
00:25:50
Speaker 2: alone himself, just hanging out with your kids and maybe
00:25:52
Speaker 2: you're maybe a supportive or not supportive spouse, right?
00:25:56
Speaker 2: You can really get stuck in that trap of not
00:25:58
Speaker 2: really moving forward in your business.
00:26:00
Speaker 2: So
00:26:00
Speaker 1: Yes,
00:26:01
Speaker 2: exactly, it's really important and critical then to like expand,
00:26:05
Speaker 2: expand what it is. You're giving yourself access to expand
00:26:08
Speaker 2: your environment and where it is that you're placing yourself
00:26:11
Speaker 2: so that you can expand on your business and your
00:26:13
Speaker 2: vision and your mission.
00:26:14
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Yes. It's the networking is probably the
00:26:19
Speaker 1: one of the best ways of marketing your business anyway
00:26:24
Speaker 1: because as you said, you never know who you're going
00:26:26
Speaker 1: to speak to and you never know what's going to happen,
00:26:30
Speaker 1: what opportunities, what doors are going to open. And as
00:26:32
Speaker 1: you said,
00:26:33
Speaker 1: look at the work you've just done in the recent
00:26:35
Speaker 1: week where you've just you've just pinned all of these
00:26:38
Speaker 1: different connections um and you're building your network and your
00:26:43
Speaker 1: building opportunities for your business and for others. And I
00:26:46
Speaker 1: think that's I was talking to somebody yesterday about this
00:26:49
Speaker 1: and that's the bottom line when we network,
00:26:52
Speaker 1: it's about being reciprocal in how we do it. So
00:26:56
Speaker 1: you you helped your friend, your new connection and she
00:26:59
Speaker 1: is also helping you so that when you help each other,
00:27:02
Speaker 1: you elevate each other's success and together you can become
00:27:07
Speaker 1: more successful and you can both grow your business is
00:27:10
Speaker 1: so much more so
00:27:12
Speaker 1: I love, I love hearing your story about your networking experience.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: So come to the time now Vanessa, if you could
00:27:19
Speaker 1: share with my listeners three can do tips that you
00:27:23
Speaker 1: would like to leave them with.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: Mhm
00:27:27
Speaker 1: mm
00:27:28
Speaker 2: Yes, I should've prepared this skill, but what I would
00:27:32
Speaker 2: say um what I would say is I'm not in
00:27:36
Speaker 2: any particular order but
00:27:39
Speaker 2: tip number one is do not take seven figure business
00:27:44
Speaker 2: advice for your three finger business. What I mean by
00:27:47
Speaker 2: that essentially remember back in, that's what I would tell
00:27:50
Speaker 2: myself early on um is that you know
00:27:54
Speaker 2: when I think about my journey and I was definitely
00:27:56
Speaker 2: listening to all the gurus quote unquote and all the,
00:27:59
Speaker 2: all the big boys and big women, so to speak,
00:28:01
Speaker 2: quote unquote, right? But the thing is that they were
00:28:04
Speaker 2: telling me stuff that was far beyond the level of
00:28:06
Speaker 2: business I was in, right? So I was doing stuff
00:28:08
Speaker 2: which is like one of those things where you fake
00:28:10
Speaker 2: it till you make it, but when you're making 34 figures,
00:28:13
Speaker 2: like faking it means that you're,
00:28:14
Speaker 2: you're not going to end up in a really healthy
00:28:16
Speaker 2: business because you know, faking it till you make it
00:28:19
Speaker 2: is not, is not healthy, right? Financially healthy. Even so
00:28:22
Speaker 2: and so I would say that, but I see a
00:28:24
Speaker 2: lot of entrepreneurs doing that and it's like, well, Gary
00:28:26
Speaker 2: V is telling me this and Tony is telling me
00:28:28
Speaker 2: this and no, no, no, no, it's like they're not
00:28:30
Speaker 2: talking to you, they're talking to the eight figure business owners, right?
00:28:32
Speaker 2: They're not talking to you right? If anything,
00:28:34
Speaker 2: They may have been you 10 years ago, but they're
00:28:36
Speaker 2: not you right now.
00:28:37
Speaker 2: And so really ensuring that you are heeding the advice
00:28:39
Speaker 2: that you're taking in um for yourself and for your business,
00:28:42
Speaker 2: that's one,
00:28:42
Speaker 2: tip number two is you know, don't quit your day job,
00:28:47
Speaker 2: you have the option just in summary. Um Don't put
00:28:51
Speaker 2: your data data if you have the option and you're
00:28:53
Speaker 2: still looking for ways to really expand your business and
00:28:57
Speaker 2: tip number three is to get some help
00:28:59
Speaker 2: and something I would never like for me, I've always
00:29:02
Speaker 2: been a person to get help because I'm also like
00:29:04
Speaker 2: I'm an efficient person. So in my mind, I'm like
00:29:06
Speaker 2: if I can struggle here by myself and try to
00:29:09
Speaker 2: like waste time, you waste energy, etcetera or I cannot
00:29:12
Speaker 2: waste time or not waste energy and just reach out
00:29:14
Speaker 2: and see where I can get help. And so for me,
00:29:16
Speaker 2: I've invested over six figures just in business coaching programs
00:29:19
Speaker 2: for even just my business.
00:29:20
Speaker 2: And even before that I was like, I had invested
00:29:22
Speaker 2: like a life coaching program. What are all these things
00:29:24
Speaker 2: with a life coach and speak about a program? But
00:29:27
Speaker 2: I want the one person and it's one of those
00:29:29
Speaker 2: things where it's, you know, I've always been a person
00:29:32
Speaker 2: to like shout for help. But I think there's a
00:29:34
Speaker 2: lot of people who think that, you know, all these
00:29:36
Speaker 2: people out there on instagram or facebook or twitter or
00:29:39
Speaker 2: tiktok whatever maybe are doing it by themselves. And the
00:29:42
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is yes. You see them on
00:29:44
Speaker 2: the stage, yes, they are on the stage.
00:29:46
Speaker 2: But guess what? There's an advisory team in the backstage, right?
00:29:51
Speaker 2: Texting them, calling them, emailing them right, telling them what
00:29:54
Speaker 2: to do and how to do it. And so that's
00:29:56
Speaker 2: what I would say. The last tip there is just
00:29:58
Speaker 2: like reach out, ask for help, there's no need for
00:30:00
Speaker 2: you to struggle by yourself, There's help available to you
00:30:03
Speaker 2: and you just got to seek out and ask for
00:30:04
Speaker 2: it and there you go.
00:30:06
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. They're very through. I really like the do
00:30:10
Speaker 1: not take the seven figure advice for your three figure business.
00:30:13
Speaker 1: It's that has to get you into that right mindset
00:30:16
Speaker 1: to and then of course you're
00:30:19
Speaker 1: being optimistic realists that you are. That second point about
00:30:22
Speaker 1: not quitting your day job until you're ready really, until
00:30:25
Speaker 1: you've got the right things in front of you. And
00:30:28
Speaker 1: of course,
00:30:30
Speaker 1: the third one of getting the support you need, and
00:30:32
Speaker 1: always having that team who you can fall back to,
00:30:36
Speaker 1: the people that become trusted, respected
00:30:39
Speaker 1: network of people who the one that will keep challenging you,
00:30:42
Speaker 1: the one that will keep inspiring you, the one who
00:30:45
Speaker 1: will
00:30:46
Speaker 1: champion your work, and the one who will be your referral,
00:30:49
Speaker 1: go to buddy, there's it's so vitally important and I
00:30:53
Speaker 1: know like you, I have those people in my life globally,
00:30:57
Speaker 1: because I run a global business
00:30:59
Speaker 1: and it's it's
00:31:01
Speaker 1: I think without them, I wouldn't be the success that
00:31:04
Speaker 1: I am today. So it's wonderful to hear this shared
00:31:07
Speaker 1: journey that you have um as well. So, my final
00:31:11
Speaker 1: question for you today, Vanessa, is why do you feel
00:31:14
Speaker 1: a can do attitude is absolutely essential.
00:31:21
Speaker 2: I would say a candle at two is essential because
00:31:27
Speaker 2: really, I mean, it's a central entrepreneurship just in general,
00:31:30
Speaker 2: because here's the thing, they're gonna be naysayers if you
00:31:33
Speaker 2: haven't already met the naysayers in your life, you know,
00:31:35
Speaker 2: guess what? It doesn't stop just when you're starting, it
00:31:38
Speaker 2: keeps on going people um if you are, if you
00:31:40
Speaker 2: have a vision, if you have a goal, there are
00:31:42
Speaker 2: people around you who either they don't believe in the
00:31:44
Speaker 2: vision or goal itself, they don't believe that you can
00:31:47
Speaker 2: achieve the vision of the goal,
00:31:48
Speaker 2: right? And so it's really up to you at the
00:31:50
Speaker 2: end of the day to
00:31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah,
00:31:54
Speaker 2: season Yourself. There's another step I have in my book.
00:31:56
Speaker 2: Um so, right before the h hug it out is
00:31:58
Speaker 2: S four, Season your soul, because the six steps are finished.
00:32:02
Speaker 2: So step five, season your soul step six is hug
00:32:05
Speaker 2: it out. But the step five, in terms of season
00:32:07
Speaker 2: your soul is really about that inner motivation, right? And
00:32:10
Speaker 2: I think about, you know, when I was writing that
00:32:12
Speaker 2: book and I was talking to people, you know, really
00:32:14
Speaker 2: me writing that book with me answering that question for
00:32:16
Speaker 2: people when they would actually throughout my life, how do
00:32:18
Speaker 2: you do it? And it really is self management, right?
00:32:21
Speaker 2: Because you can plan, you can make a list, you
00:32:23
Speaker 2: can um you know, have goals right now, you can
00:32:27
Speaker 2: do all these things, but what is the difference between
00:32:30
Speaker 2: the people who get it done to people who don't
00:32:31
Speaker 2: for the people who actually believe that they can,
00:32:34
Speaker 2: right? And the people who actually make it happen, I
00:32:36
Speaker 2: think about it even because I'm a runner, and I
00:32:38
Speaker 2: think about it in terms of, you know, like even
00:32:40
Speaker 2: just just running a race or just running in general,
00:32:43
Speaker 2: and there comes a point in time when your thighs
00:32:45
Speaker 2: hurt
00:32:46
Speaker 2: and your arms hurt and you're like, you're like, OMG,
00:32:50
Speaker 2: I don't think I can make it to the end
00:32:52
Speaker 2: of this, Oh man, maybe I could, maybe I should
00:32:54
Speaker 2: stop and then I can stop and pause, you know,
00:32:56
Speaker 2: that could take a walk and then keep running right,
00:32:58
Speaker 2: And the thing is that, that's going to happen entrepreneurship
00:33:00
Speaker 2: as well to see entrepreneurship as a marathon,
00:33:02
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be times when you're just like, oh man,
00:33:06
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but that is hurting. But essentially that can
00:33:08
Speaker 2: do attitude is what keeps you moving forward, that can
00:33:10
Speaker 2: do attitude is what gets you to say and see,
00:33:14
Speaker 2: you know, you know what the finish line is and
00:33:16
Speaker 2: you know that it can happen right? You just need
00:33:18
Speaker 2: to keep moving forward one step at a time.
00:33:21
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
00:33:22
Speaker 1: Fantastic. I love that quote and you should use that
00:33:24
Speaker 1: in your business to that entrepreneurship is a marathon. That's
00:33:28
Speaker 1: a fantastic, fantastic title for writing or for just that
00:33:33
Speaker 1: whole idea that it's not
00:33:35
Speaker 1: it's not a get rich quick scheme, it's not a
00:33:38
Speaker 1: quick process, it's all about learning about yourself, learning about others,
00:33:42
Speaker 1: working with yourself, working with others, It's got such an
00:33:45
Speaker 1: incredible um yeah, go the distance and then end strong.
00:33:49
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. So thank you so much
00:33:53
Speaker 1: for being my guest today, Vanessa, I've really enjoyed talking
00:33:56
Speaker 1: to you and hearing about
00:33:58
Speaker 1: you've got such a dynamic personality and you really,
00:34:02
Speaker 1: you obviously walking your talk and you're helping a lot
00:34:05
Speaker 1: of people as well, be realistic about the choices that
00:34:09
Speaker 1: they're making, helping them with the productivity ways that you
00:34:14
Speaker 1: have developed and and also the really very broad and
00:34:18
Speaker 1: um experience thinking that you are sharing with others. And
00:34:22
Speaker 1: I
00:34:23
Speaker 1: yeah, I just want to say thank you very much
00:34:25
Speaker 1: for coming on my show today,
00:34:27
Speaker 2: thank you for having Miguel appreciate it.
00:34:30
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00:34:31
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