EP 42: Six Yards of Magic with Dolly Jain

[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to our podcast, Taking Chances, with me Soela Joshi and my co-host Anupama Bhalla.

[00:00:07] We are thrilled to have the incredible Dolly Jain, India's most celebrated drapepreneur.

[00:00:13] From draping sarees for iconic stars like Shri Vevi, Deepika Padukor, Gigi Hadid, to influencing

[00:00:20] millions through her viral tutorials, Dolly's journey is nothing short of inspiring. Dolly discovered

[00:00:26] her passion for saree draping after her marriage and since then she has redefined the art. In 2019,

[00:00:33] she made headlines by earning a spot in the Limca Book of Records for draping a saree in an astonishing

[00:00:39] 18.5 seconds, an achievement that showcases her incredible skill and creativity. In this episode,

[00:00:47] we'll dive into Dolly's roller coaster journey, exploring the hard work and belief that propelled

[00:00:53] her to success. With millions of followers on Instagram, she's dedicated to educating young

[00:00:59] women about the beauty and sustainability of sarees and encouraging a revival of this timeless tradition.

[00:01:06] Join us as we unravel her story, her vision for the future of sarees and her mission to inspire a new

[00:01:13] generation of saree enthusiasts. Thank you so much Dolly for joining Anu and me on our podcast,

[00:01:21] Taking Chances. We are delighted to have you with us. I'm equally excited.

[00:01:27] There's so much to ask you and I think the start will be best if you tell us a little bit about your

[00:01:32] growing years, your journey and what all you've been able to do to reach where you are today.

[00:01:38] That's a lot that you've asked me to say. So as a journey, I would say I was born in Ranchi. When I was

[00:01:45] three months old, we shifted to Bangalore because my dad was in Bangalore. I did a little bit of my

[00:01:50] schooling in Ooty, which eventually nobody knows. And then we shifted to Erode and then Bangalore.

[00:01:56] So my life is like a roller coaster ride. And I studied till class six in Bangalore. We shifted

[00:02:01] to Ranchi where I got admitted in class seven. But unfortunately, I couldn't complete my studies

[00:02:08] because of my some health issues and some other issues. So my studies are only till class seven,

[00:02:14] I could only do the first term exam and by the second term exam, I just quit. So that's a little

[00:02:20] about my education. I got married very early. I got married when I was just 21. And I didn't get time

[00:02:28] to explore, you know, life much. And I'm exploring it now. In fact, as a child, I think I've always seen

[00:02:37] my mom wearing a sari because my mom has always been a sari person. And I used to play with my doll.

[00:02:44] And in that entire complex in that entire society, only I had a beautiful doll, the most beautiful

[00:02:50] doll. So I used to always dress her up in a sari. Like I used to pin I used to pleat I used to tuck

[00:02:56] in I used to make a flowers and I don't know what and all I still can. If I close my eyes, I can see my

[00:03:02] doll right in front of me. But after we shifted and all of that happened, I think my touch and my,

[00:03:07] you know, how we grow up and our dolls are always like left. So that's what happened. I remember one

[00:03:13] beautiful incident that happened with my mom. Actually, with me, I was playing with my doll.

[00:03:19] And my doll had to go to a party and I had to dress her up. I didn't have a new sari for her. So

[00:03:25] basically, when I saw mom, I just looked at her sari. And I you know, every time you look at your

[00:03:29] mom's sari and you feel such a huge kind of a cloth she's wearing, even if I cut little part

[00:03:34] of it, how will mom come to it? And that's what I did. I cut my mom's palla, not knowing that is a

[00:03:39] palla. So it was a beautiful Kanji Viram sari that actually my dad had gifted mom. And I cut a palla

[00:03:45] and I made that beautiful thing for my doll. And I had the great time with my doll and a party and all

[00:03:51] of that. And my staff folded the sari and she kept it. But my mom had to wear it. And when she started

[00:03:56] draping, she said, why is he threads hanging? And then she figured out that I cut her sari. Oh,

[00:04:01] my God, the kind of scolding that I got. Why did you do this? You're stupid, you're mad, you're this,

[00:04:07] your dad, your dad gifted me this sari. And I always loved this. And that was actually my mom's first

[00:04:12] Kanji Viram sari. Oh, no.

[00:04:14] And it was a real gold Kanji Viram sari. Like few days back, only mom was sitting and she was saying

[00:04:20] that dolly, how I had scolded you for that sari that you had cut. And today you're known by a sari.

[00:04:27] It's just, it's just something that God had some connection and we did figure out. So she said,

[00:04:34] that I don't want to be a sari. Correct. So I got married into a family where, you know, I only had

[00:04:42] to wear a sari. And I've been from Bangalore girl, always in jeans and t-shirts, no kurta and all of

[00:04:47] that. And immediately you blink your eyes and you've been told that, you'll wear a sari. And that's

[00:04:53] exactly what happened with me. I didn't know how to drape a sari. It used to take 45 minutes to an hour

[00:04:59] every single morning. And I used to hate it. I used to literally hate draping sari. I always felt

[00:05:05] that, kya, yaya, ye, chai gach ka kapda khatami ni hota hai. Yahan lapetli ye. And I didn't actually

[00:05:12] know how to drape, though my mom had taught me, but I was super bad. And every day I used to see

[00:05:17] Naveen sleeping for that extra 45 minutes. And I had to wake up that that was even more painful for me.

[00:05:23] So, so I think that's how I actually, I thought, chalo kuch tim ka cheeze,

[00:05:28] say, I will try and convince my mother-in-law. But eventually that didn't happen. And slowly,

[00:05:34] slowly, because I get a lot of compliments when I wore sarees, because they just felt

[00:05:38] that, you know, you carry yourself so elegantly and the way you walk, the way you talk, the way

[00:05:43] you dress up. I mean, you will never dress up when you're wearing a kurta or a denim. You might just

[00:05:48] wear a earpiece or just not wear anything only. But the moment you wear a sari, you just want to do

[00:05:53] that little bit of jewelry and little bit of poise. The way you sit, the way you talk, everything

[00:05:58] changes. So I think that's what I got from people. And I fell in love with sarees. And slowly by the

[00:06:04] time I fell in love with sarees, my mother-in-law also was convinced,

[00:06:07] you can wear a kurta. I said, why don't you wear? I'm in love with sarees. So I think that is a little

[00:06:13] about how all started. Yeah, it seems like a real fun household. I must say that. Yeah, my whole life,

[00:06:20] I think if I sit and write a book, I think people are going to love it. It's a roller coaster ride

[00:06:24] completely. So you know, when Anu and I, you know, when you accepted coming on our podcast, the first thing,

[00:06:30] you know, that really came to our mind is that what made you really think that the skill that you have,

[00:06:37] that can become such a successful business. I mean, how did you know? I didn't know. I literally

[00:06:43] didn't know. I was a person who used to hate sarees. Cut to, I was the complex that I stayed in.

[00:06:50] There were three, four girls who were getting married and their parents came up to me and they said,

[00:06:54] Dolly Jai Saab, Sadi Pehnteo, please, my children will teach me. They will be married and my children will not learn from us. And I said,

[00:07:02] Okay, done. And I started teaching them. And I just felt that while I was teaching them,

[00:07:08] I just could see them drape it so well. And I could also see I had a talent of teaching someone something.

[00:07:16] Before that, I never taught anyone anything. And also while I was draping them, and while I was

[00:07:21] teaching them, there were so many other drapes that came up, which eventually I experienced only when I

[00:07:27] was teaching them. So I think taking this up as a profession was never an idea, never thought of,

[00:07:33] because this actually didn't existed only. Yeah. Sadi draping as a profession never existed. So I just

[00:07:40] felt that, I mean, I really don't know. I just feel when they say some things are destined for you,

[00:07:45] and you're made for it. And I think people realize it on the later stages, I got the right opportunity,

[00:07:53] right age to realize it. And I just started with it, I think that's how I'll put it up. But I would

[00:08:00] give this entire credit to Shideviji. I would not take it. Because I was in Bombay, my mama was film

[00:08:07] producer. So they had a party in their house, where Shideviji also was invited. So something spilled on

[00:08:12] her sari. She went to correct her sari. And I followed her because I was like a diehard fan.

[00:08:19] And then when I went to correct her sari, and I said, I can do it. Because I by the time I was

[00:08:24] married, I could wear sarees. She said, No, I know how to drape it. And I can do my saree myself.

[00:08:29] So I said, No, I would want to do it as if you're forcing yourself on her. And then I pleated her

[00:08:34] sari. And while I was doing it, she was like staring at my fingers. And I felt, Oh my God,

[00:08:39] I have done anything wrong. Fan moment is my whole mess. But I finished. And she just said,

[00:08:47] the dolly have been wearing sarees as a child artist. But I have never ever, ever seen anyone

[00:08:55] pleat like the way you do. And then after a certain pause, she just said the line that's changed my whole

[00:09:01] life. Why don't you take it up as a profession? Oh, okay. That's one line. You know, sometimes you

[00:09:08] just feel it. Oh, they said it. How do you change your life? That's the thing to understand. I mean,

[00:09:15] you know how you just take up that one line because someone who's a legend, someone who understands sari,

[00:09:20] someone who understands drape has said you something. I mean, what will happen? If you try,

[00:09:26] you will fail. That's it. But what if you succeed? Correct. And I was lucky. I got an opportunity.

[00:09:33] I did it. And I'm glad that, you know, with all the passion and, you know, dedication that I did

[00:09:40] this today, I'm right in front of you talking to you guys. Excellent. In fact, when you said Shri

[00:09:45] Devi won immediately, I thought you were going to get to sari. So then you think of all the

[00:09:49] chiffon sarees in Chandani and other movies that she wore.

[00:09:52] Actually, I think a chiffon saree only. And I can't tell you how beautiful even today that yellow

[00:09:58] saree is in my mind. And I really would want to drape that same yellow saree on Janvi one day.

[00:10:03] I don't know when I'm going to do that. But you know, that's going to be a moment for me. When

[00:10:07] people ask me, what is that one thing that you want to do? I said, I want to drape that same saree

[00:10:11] on Janvi. I mean, I just want to do that. So you know, Dolly, one of course, you've spoken about

[00:10:16] making saree, draping a business. And then one side, there's the business and the other side is the

[00:10:21] brand and that's you Dolly Jen, the brand, right? Draping by Dolly Jen. So what does it take you to

[00:10:27] build yourself up as a brand, especially in a space where you know, every woman knows how to tie a saree

[00:10:33] in some way or the other. But to take that and make it a business and make it your Dolly Jen's business,

[00:10:39] what did it take to make your brand?

[00:10:41] So basically, when I started, you know, I started when saree was almost people had literally stopped

[00:10:46] wearing. I'll talk about an incident here. I was attending someone's 50th anniversary. And I've

[00:10:52] always seen that auntie in a saree, beautiful saree. She used to wear those cotton and Doria

[00:10:58] sarees at home. And I was so excited to see what is she going to wear for her 50th anniversary.

[00:11:03] I walk into the party and I see her in a gown. And I lost it that very moment. I said, I'm going to go

[00:11:08] and tell auntie what the hell have you done. And my husband kept on. No, no, you can't do this.

[00:11:12] You can't do this. And I said, no, I have to do this. And I went on the stage and I told her,

[00:11:16] auntie, you wore your saree and you were so beautiful. Why would you wear your gown?

[00:11:22] That's also in your life. Then she said, our parents said that the saree is very outdated.

[00:11:28] You wear everything, so you don't wear the gown. I said, okay, bro. That day I promised myself.

[00:11:34] I said, if the lady who is a 50 plus lady, I mean, who's celebrating her 50th anniversary,

[00:11:40] she must be somewhere around what? 65, 60? Sorry, 70. A lady who was celebrating her 50th anniversary

[00:11:47] is wearing a gown. I don't know how I'm going to bring them back to sarees. I promised myself that

[00:11:54] I will do whatever I have to, to bring saree back to fashion. That was the first thing that I promised.

[00:12:00] Branding myself, I think I didn't really do anything. I just religiously worked hard,

[00:12:07] consistently followed my passion, and I gave everybody the solution of the problems that they

[00:12:14] asked me on my social platforms. I can't be more thankful to Facebook and Instagram because this

[00:12:21] is the kind of platform where, you know, it was a one-on-one connect. I just felt I'm talking to

[00:12:26] someone who's staying in, say, Sweden or Nairobi or any part of the globe. They just could call me,

[00:12:33] and they just could connect with me, and I would solve their problem. So if someone said that,

[00:12:37] Dolly, we wear cotton sarees, and we have certain, certain problems. So I would just take that problem,

[00:12:42] address that problem like a, in a form of a video and give it to them. So branding,

[00:12:47] I actually didn't know. I think you guys made me a brand. I still have to still sink into it that I've

[00:12:54] made it large, but I still feel it's an ocean and I just could take a drop of it. There's

[00:12:59] a lot to learn, a lot to give it back to the society. I think branding also, I would put it up

[00:13:05] to the social media and to all the, you know, celeb wedding that I do. So from all, from Sonam Kapoor,

[00:13:11] Deepika Padukone, Alia Bhatt, Kiara Advani, Priyanka Chopra, all of these big weddings that happen,

[00:13:18] I've been a part of it. So when, you know, every time when it is written, draped by Dolly Jain,

[00:13:24] I think slowly it starts registering everyone. And that credit that the designer or the makeup artist

[00:13:30] or the wedding planner or the photographer keeps giving you, it keeps hammering, who is this Dolly

[00:13:35] Jain? And what is she doing? Is she? And then people were like, she's just draping a saree. I

[00:13:41] said, it is not just draping a saree. You guys stopped wearing a saree and I'm bringing you back to

[00:13:46] sarees. So it is not just, don't add that just. It took me 17 years to explain you that saree is the

[00:13:53] most beautiful garment. And we see a huge change in the graph of sarees because now people have come

[00:14:00] back to sarees. So I think, you know, when we actually think, oh, I have to make myself as a

[00:14:05] brand, you know, I have to let people see I'm a celebrity and don't talk to me like this. Don't

[00:14:11] do this. I've never been like this. You know, at the airport, when we can go and sit in the lounge,

[00:14:17] I make sure I keep roaming around. Why? Because those people who know me, they come up to me,

[00:14:23] they talk to me, and that's what makes me happy. If I sit there, I'm aloof, I'm alone,

[00:14:28] and I'm very scared of being alone. When you reach the top one level,

[00:14:32] you will see what you see, then you will see no one. And you feel scared of that. It is good to be

[00:14:39] grade two, because you have something to achieve more. But it's scary to reach the top one level,

[00:14:45] because then there is nothing else to achieve. So I still feel I'm in the grade two. So the branding

[00:14:51] and all, but I feel that for all those people who think that they don't know what to do,

[00:14:56] and how to brand themselves, don't run after branding yourself, consistent work hard,

[00:15:03] and religious, you know, delivery of your content is what is going to make you popular.

[00:15:09] And this is all that I've done.

[00:15:11] That's an inspirational journey, certainly Dolly, and I can sense the determination and all that you've done

[00:15:17] to make it here. So you know, what advice would you give to so, so many women in India at home,

[00:15:23] or maybe even across the globe, who know little skills, it could be gardening, it could be interior

[00:15:28] decoration. I mean, all women are that right, they garden, they're interior decorators of their own

[00:15:33] homes, they're cooking, they're pickling, and they're all little skills. And you've picked up the

[00:15:38] little skill and made it something big. So what advice would you give to women? What can they do

[00:15:43] to make what they do at home something much larger, and maybe a possibly successful business idea for them?

[00:15:49] I feel the only thing that I would give you as an advice is believe in yourself, believe in the product

[00:15:55] that you're making, make sure what you're delivering is 100% your consent, you don't need anybody else's

[00:16:02] consent. When I do my drapes, I always feel the saree that I'm draping, will I be able to wear this and go

[00:16:08] out in a party? Will I be able to face 10-15 of them when I'm wearing these kind of drapes? I just don't put

[00:16:15] anything on myself. Because if my heart says no, I don't give it to the world. So first is your consent.

[00:16:23] Make sure that you know, you are the encyclopedia of what you are doing. And then just jump into it.

[00:16:30] If you keep thinking that you will learn swimming one day, and you're on the corner of the swimming

[00:16:37] pool, you're not on the center, you will never be able to learn swimming. You just need to jump.

[00:16:44] Swimming up sea cloak, you just need to jump. Standing at the shore and thinking that the water

[00:16:49] is too deep will never let you cross that. So I think, you know, the first step to take that first

[00:16:55] step, you need a maximum amount of courage. To take that first step in my career, can you believe it?

[00:17:01] Being a class seven girl, not knowing how to speak in English, not knowing how to address people,

[00:17:08] not knowing how to dress up in front of the camera and talk. I've learned everything. I was not spoon fed

[00:17:15] anything. Everything that I felt was, this is the zone that I'm weak. You have so many mediums these

[00:17:23] days. You have YouTube. You can just Google anything and just learn. You should have that.

[00:17:29] And you take anything else to take it and just go crazy. I just, this is my corner. I made my

[00:17:35] body. I made my body. People have Western outfits and these and all that. What do I do? I tell them

[00:17:43] that you're only concerned about what you are doing. Just focus on that. If there is anything that's

[00:17:57] bothering you, delete it then and there. Like, you know, when I was doing these videos, there were few

[00:18:04] people more who were, who started doing draping videos. And when I could see their videos, I just felt

[00:18:09] I have to unfollow them or block them. Because if I see their videos and if I make my videos and

[00:18:17] can I make my videos and can I make my same video? So I was scared of watching them because I was original.

[00:18:24] So if you have something that is your own and you are original, just jump into it. There will be two things.

[00:18:32] Either you will fail or pass. If you have failed, then you have a chance to try again.

[00:18:39] And if you are passed, then you have passed. I mean, you know, that's so good. What I feel and what I say

[00:18:46] myself every time is, when I live in my last stage, when I live in that bed, when I am

[00:18:53] reminding myself of my whole life, I never thought that I would do this at that time and I would do this.

[00:19:00] And this was one promise that I think I have told everyone. I have told my daughters. I have told my

[00:19:30] life. So if you have a talent, jump into it and show it to the world.

[00:19:36] But when I started, I didn't have any YouTube. I had to do this. I had to operate on Facebook. I had to

[00:19:41] operate on my laptop and computer. I had to see it. I literally told you that I had to tell you that I had to

[00:20:06] say, you have to do something so much. I want to do something. But I only do Hindi. I don't want to say anything. I just

[00:20:14] say something. What do you do? What do I do? I take my dad and I take my dad and I take my

[00:20:20] stories and I listen to them. I enjoy the fun. Now they also send my friends. I say, I said,

[00:20:29] I do not. You know, I do not. You have to listen to the stories. You have to listen to the stories.

[00:20:41] You start listening to the stories. You start listening to Instagram. You just like that. You just

[00:20:58] And auntie did the same thing.

[00:21:13] Right.

[00:21:28] And that's it.

[00:21:30] You know, when your passion becomes your profession, then you excel.

[00:21:34] Because you don't watch the night at night.

[00:21:36] You just get crazy for that.

[00:21:39] I'm sleeping today, but my brain is working.

[00:21:44] And I wake up.

[00:21:45] Oh, I have a brilliant idea.

[00:21:46] I have to do this drape on this mannequin and get me the sari, get me the dupatta.

[00:21:50] And I just want to do it.

[00:21:51] Sometimes I succeed.

[00:21:53] And sometimes I fail.

[00:21:54] But we haven't tried to stop.

[00:21:57] What's happening?

[00:21:57] We have to do it.

[00:22:01] And the rest of the state, it doesn't happen.

[00:22:03] Because we haven't tried.

[00:22:04] So I think trying religious effort is very important.

[00:22:08] And getting it to the work today.

[00:22:12] That is the most important.

[00:22:13] Right.

[00:22:14] That's really, really powerful, Dolly.

[00:22:16] And you know what I'm enjoying in this conversation is the amount of anecdotes that you're sharing with us.

[00:22:22] Because that makes it so much more relatable when you talk about stories and people.

[00:22:26] I want to move on to certain projects, you know, that you've done that you can share with us.

[00:22:32] What is the process that you go through?

[00:22:33] Are there any, again, anecdotes of certain big projects, difficult projects, challenging projects that you've worked on?

[00:22:40] And just the process of how you put it all together.

[00:22:43] I mean, you just go in one day and they show you the sari and you put it on.

[00:22:46] Or you have meetings, you look at it.

[00:22:48] I mean, so what's the process of your thinking?

[00:22:50] And then of executing what you have, you know, told your plan?

[00:22:53] Basically, when the date is finalized, the first thing they do is they call me.

[00:22:58] They say that Dolly will get a second makeup artist, will get a second hair artist.

[00:23:02] But there is only one brave artist, so we want your dates.

[00:23:04] The moment I tell them that my dates are available, then they start planning their saris.

[00:23:10] Because if Dolly is not available, then we'll only do with one dupatta.

[00:23:13] But if Dolly is available, then we will plan for three dupattas.

[00:23:17] That's the whole idea.

[00:23:18] So what I do is I don't look at the fabric.

[00:23:20] I don't look at anything.

[00:23:22] I straight see them and their garments on the day of the wedding.

[00:23:27] Like suppose I'm doing a three-day wedding.

[00:23:29] Then the first day when I meet them, I look at them.

[00:23:32] I talk to them.

[00:23:33] I understand their mindset.

[00:23:35] Whether they've been a sari person or they've not been a sari person.

[00:23:38] Whether, you know, they are Indians who know still how to handle dupattas.

[00:23:42] Or they are foreigners who've never worn Indian garments.

[00:23:46] So these are the things that I calculate.

[00:23:49] I just look into the things whether, you know, if the gentry that they are moving,

[00:23:54] is the gentry willing to accept these kind of drapes?

[00:23:57] Or they are a little bit, you know, more covered drapes.

[00:24:00] So these are little, little calculations that I do.

[00:24:03] But that is, I do it when the girl is getting her makeup done.

[00:24:06] Because that takes one and a half hours to two hours.

[00:24:09] And that is more than enough for me to plan the drape and execute it on her.

[00:24:14] So I think not much planning I do.

[00:24:17] I just make sure that I have everything in my draping kit.

[00:24:20] So whether her shoes is hurting or her jewelry is pinching or she's broken a piece of her jewelry.

[00:24:26] I have everything to stitch.

[00:24:29] I have strings to tie her jewelry.

[00:24:32] I have those underarm pads.

[00:24:35] I have the shoe cushions.

[00:24:37] I don't know what and all I carry in my bag that the girl says that,

[00:24:41] ouch, I forgot to get this.

[00:24:42] I said, don't worry, I have it.

[00:24:43] So, you know, I give them all of these.

[00:24:46] So it's in spite of only being hired for draping,

[00:24:49] I think I do so many other things than drapes.

[00:24:52] Because you're so successful at what you're doing,

[00:24:56] do they just listen to what you have to do?

[00:24:59] Or do they have points of views?

[00:25:01] How do you take that on?

[00:25:03] Or just because you're so successful at your work?

[00:25:06] This is, I think, initial days have been very, very tough.

[00:25:09] Because you are nobody.

[00:25:10] And they are who's and who's.

[00:25:12] So they would say, no, I think Dolly will do this drape.

[00:25:16] And then I would do that.

[00:25:17] And then they'll remove it.

[00:25:19] No, I think this side would look better, Dolly.

[00:25:21] I would do that and they will remove it again.

[00:25:24] And then, you know, then it is a lot goes behind.

[00:25:26] They're not getting connected to what I am saying.

[00:25:30] Or, you know, I'm not getting to understand what their liking is.

[00:25:33] So this journey has been really very tough.

[00:25:36] Because to make someone understand that this fabric behaves in this way.

[00:25:41] And this drape is going to look good in this style.

[00:25:45] Took me so many years, actually.

[00:25:47] But after doing Mrs. Ambani,

[00:25:50] After doing the pickup at the cone,

[00:25:52] You know, people who actually are the stars of the country.

[00:25:56] I feel people have started taking me more seriously.

[00:25:59] And when I say, okay, this is the garment that you're wearing.

[00:26:02] I think this is the drape that you should be taking.

[00:26:04] And there is nothing that they say.

[00:26:06] I just do it.

[00:26:08] And in 10 minutes, my job is done.

[00:26:10] Wow.

[00:26:10] Like earlier, it would take 45 minutes to an hour to actually set.

[00:26:14] If I would do a drape, they would say,

[00:26:15] Chachi ko bulatei bar dekhne keiye.

[00:26:17] Chachi bula proof.

[00:26:18] Mami ne dekha nahi hai hai.

[00:26:20] Aunti ne dekha nahi hai.

[00:26:21] Mama, ap batao kaisa hai.

[00:26:22] So, someone or the other will come and say,

[00:26:24] Nahi ye shayad sarpe nahi hona chih dupatta.

[00:26:26] Should not be here.

[00:26:27] It should be half an inch behind.

[00:26:29] And for that half an inch behind,

[00:26:31] I would have to remove the entire thing.

[00:26:33] I said, and I would again place it at the same place.

[00:26:37] I promise I would do it at the same place.

[00:26:39] And the lady would say,

[00:26:41] Haan, haan, kik lagara hai.

[00:26:43] And I was like, oh my God.

[00:26:45] What is this happening?

[00:26:46] But you know how it is.

[00:26:48] That is the time when they don't have the trust on you.

[00:26:51] But today, they would just say,

[00:26:53] Dolly, aap dekhle nah sab ham toh jhaare.

[00:26:55] This is the time that they leave everything on me.

[00:26:58] Everything.

[00:26:59] Like aap dekhle nahi ye joolery dhal nahi nahi dhal nahi,

[00:27:01] karna hai ne karna.

[00:27:02] I mean, everything is on me.

[00:27:04] So, you know, it's so much of dedication and effort

[00:27:07] and trust that I've built with all of them

[00:27:10] over the past years.

[00:27:12] That now, they just feel,

[00:27:14] the moment I am there,

[00:27:15] they just say,

[00:27:16] thank God you're there for us.

[00:27:17] We are in safe hands.

[00:27:18] So, Dolly, you know,

[00:27:19] I've seen a lot of your videos

[00:27:21] and you so beautifully showcase

[00:27:24] all these amazing saris

[00:27:26] and, you know,

[00:27:27] your draping and styling is so unique

[00:27:29] and, you know,

[00:27:30] we all kind of like try it,

[00:27:32] never get it right,

[00:27:33] but still keep trying it.

[00:27:35] But even you must be needing inspiration, right?

[00:27:38] It's such a, you know,

[00:27:39] growing field

[00:27:39] and you're seeing other people

[00:27:41] also are coming into the play.

[00:27:42] So, where do you draw your inspiration

[00:27:45] so that you can be always relevant

[00:27:47] and with it,

[00:27:48] where does your inspiration come from?

[00:27:50] I think if you see,

[00:27:51] we've got so many states,

[00:27:53] every state has got their own fabric,

[00:27:55] every state has got their own style

[00:27:57] of draping saris.

[00:27:59] Now, apart from this,

[00:28:01] we've got so many union territories

[00:28:02] have got,

[00:28:03] they make such beautiful saris.

[00:28:05] Apart from this also,

[00:28:07] there are so many weaves

[00:28:08] that has come up

[00:28:09] which needs a particular style of draping.

[00:28:12] Now, I understood that,

[00:28:14] you know,

[00:28:14] if I stick to only states

[00:28:16] and their weaves

[00:28:17] and their style

[00:28:18] and their style of draping,

[00:28:19] I will have a restricted amount

[00:28:21] of drapes in my pocket.

[00:28:24] So, what I needed was,

[00:28:26] how do I explore it?

[00:28:27] So, what I actually did,

[00:28:29] I started mixing drapes of two states.

[00:28:31] Like I did a Rajasthani drape

[00:28:32] with a Bengali drape,

[00:28:34] a Bengali drape

[00:28:34] with a Kurgi style,

[00:28:35] a Kurgi drape

[00:28:36] with a Nibi style.

[00:28:37] So, I started blending

[00:28:38] and mixing drapes of two styles.

[00:28:40] When people just thought

[00:28:42] that only one saree could be worn,

[00:28:44] I gave them styles

[00:28:45] of wearing two sarees together.

[00:28:47] I did two saree drapes together,

[00:28:49] similar sarees,

[00:28:50] but with different color combination.

[00:28:52] And then I gave them this.

[00:28:54] When people thought

[00:28:54] only two sarees

[00:28:55] could be draped together,

[00:28:56] then I gave them two sarees

[00:28:58] with a dhupatta,

[00:28:59] with a head wave.

[00:29:01] Then when they thought

[00:29:02] lehenga could only be worn

[00:29:03] with a dhupatta,

[00:29:04] I gave them a lehenga

[00:29:05] with a whole saree.

[00:29:07] So, I think I keep experimenting

[00:29:09] this because every time

[00:29:11] for a new season

[00:29:12] for the brides,

[00:29:13] I feel I need to give them

[00:29:14] something new.

[00:29:16] And I keep on practicing.

[00:29:18] You know, like a singer

[00:29:19] does riyaz every single day.

[00:29:21] They don't miss their riyaz

[00:29:23] because they know

[00:29:23] it's all about their voice

[00:29:25] and they have to practice.

[00:29:27] So, for me,

[00:29:28] this is my riyaz.

[00:29:29] I have my mannequin

[00:29:30] every single day

[00:29:31] if I'm in Calcutta.

[00:29:32] You know, I make sure

[00:29:34] that even if I give

[00:29:35] 20 minutes of bite,

[00:29:37] I will do a drape

[00:29:38] on a mannequin

[00:29:39] and I will practice

[00:29:41] my drape

[00:29:41] because I don't know

[00:29:43] when there is

[00:29:44] a master drape

[00:29:45] that can come out.

[00:29:46] So, you know,

[00:29:47] practicing is something

[00:29:48] that I've not left.

[00:29:49] And also, you know,

[00:29:50] the trust of all

[00:29:51] these designers

[00:29:51] from Tarun Taliani

[00:29:53] to Manish Malhotra

[00:29:54] to Sabbir Saatchi

[00:29:55] to Abu Jani Sandeep Khosla

[00:29:57] to Swati Sunaina

[00:29:58] to Naina Jain.

[00:29:59] I think all of these

[00:30:00] big designers,

[00:30:01] they trust me so much

[00:30:03] that, you know,

[00:30:03] they have this beautiful fabric

[00:30:05] and they just leave it on me.

[00:30:07] And then I just stand

[00:30:08] looking at the mannequin

[00:30:09] and I start draping.

[00:30:11] Every time,

[00:30:11] I don't know how

[00:30:12] I come up with a new

[00:30:14] exciting drape.

[00:30:15] I think it's also the fabric.

[00:30:16] It's also something

[00:30:17] that's in me.

[00:30:19] There was a time

[00:30:19] when people said,

[00:30:20] Dolly,

[00:30:20] don't put things on Instagram

[00:30:22] because everybody

[00:30:23] is going to steal your ideas.

[00:30:24] I said,

[00:30:25] that's the reason I'm putting.

[00:30:26] I want people

[00:30:27] to steal my ideas

[00:30:28] because only masters

[00:30:29] are copied.

[00:30:30] You know,

[00:30:31] if you have that

[00:30:32] as a mindset,

[00:30:34] you will always want

[00:30:35] to give it to the world.

[00:30:36] But if you have a mindset

[00:30:38] of keeping things

[00:30:39] for yourself,

[00:30:39] you'll never be able

[00:30:40] to reach.

[00:30:41] So I think.

[00:30:42] Yeah,

[00:30:43] and I think to empower

[00:30:44] so many women,

[00:30:45] I mean,

[00:30:45] because looking good,

[00:30:46] feeling good

[00:30:47] is really what happens,

[00:30:48] you know,

[00:30:48] when you put out things

[00:30:49] when you help them.

[00:30:50] So I think it's really

[00:30:51] empowering versus,

[00:30:52] you know,

[00:30:53] keeping it locked up

[00:30:54] within you.

[00:30:54] I mean,

[00:30:55] we all follow your page

[00:30:56] and I've tried,

[00:30:57] you know,

[00:30:57] looking at some

[00:30:58] of the drapes myself.

[00:30:59] And what I like is,

[00:31:00] you know,

[00:31:00] your confidence.

[00:31:01] I mean,

[00:31:02] I would find it

[00:31:03] so difficult,

[00:31:04] you know,

[00:31:04] to kind of do there

[00:31:05] and,

[00:31:06] you know,

[00:31:06] putting it out there

[00:31:07] in a petticoat

[00:31:08] and in a blouse.

[00:31:09] So there's a beautiful

[00:31:09] story behind this also.

[00:31:11] So during COVID,

[00:31:12] before COVID,

[00:31:13] I drived all my drapes

[00:31:14] on models.

[00:31:15] And the moment COVID hit,

[00:31:16] I had no videos

[00:31:17] to post.

[00:31:18] And I just felt,

[00:31:19] now what?

[00:31:20] That means my Instagram

[00:31:21] is going to stop growing

[00:31:23] because I don't have content.

[00:31:25] And that was a time

[00:31:26] when,

[00:31:27] you know,

[00:31:27] I just felt that

[00:31:28] let me try doing

[00:31:29] a drape on myself.

[00:31:30] I'm not thin,

[00:31:31] I'm not fair,

[00:31:32] I am not tall.

[00:31:34] So for,

[00:31:34] to doing it on myself

[00:31:35] was like a challenge.

[00:31:37] Though I would wear sarees

[00:31:38] very confidently myself,

[00:31:40] but facing a camera

[00:31:41] was a second,

[00:31:42] it's a different

[00:31:42] ball game altogether.

[00:31:44] So when I started

[00:31:45] doing this,

[00:31:45] I made a video.

[00:31:47] I didn't let anybody

[00:31:48] see it before.

[00:31:49] And I sent both

[00:31:50] my daughters

[00:31:50] and my husband

[00:31:51] in three different rooms.

[00:31:53] So I told them,

[00:31:54] I'm sending you guys

[00:31:55] a video.

[00:31:56] Tell me how this video

[00:31:57] is looking

[00:31:58] and whether we can

[00:31:59] take this up ahead

[00:32:00] or not.

[00:32:00] So first came my little daughter

[00:32:02] and she comes out

[00:32:04] and she said,

[00:32:04] Mom,

[00:32:05] you're looking so cute.

[00:32:06] And I think this is

[00:32:07] what I was expecting

[00:32:08] from Anya,

[00:32:09] nothing else.

[00:32:10] Then my elder daughter

[00:32:11] comes and she says,

[00:32:12] Mom,

[00:32:13] what you're teaching

[00:32:14] is so beautiful

[00:32:16] that even if you're

[00:32:17] standing in just a blouse

[00:32:19] and a decode,

[00:32:20] because I never wore

[00:32:21] petticoats,

[00:32:21] it just looks

[00:32:22] as if it's a crop top

[00:32:23] and a long skirt.

[00:32:24] And there is a teacher

[00:32:26] who is so focused

[00:32:28] into teaching

[00:32:29] a sari drape

[00:32:31] to all of us.

[00:32:32] And it is a clean video,

[00:32:34] Mama.

[00:32:35] Then comes my husband

[00:32:36] because I really wanted

[00:32:37] him to be comfortable

[00:32:38] as well.

[00:32:39] And he said that,

[00:32:41] Dolly,

[00:32:42] this is beautiful.

[00:32:43] This is clean.

[00:32:45] And I could see

[00:32:46] a sparkle in your eyes

[00:32:48] where you just feel

[00:32:49] that, guys,

[00:32:50] I'm teaching you draping.

[00:32:51] Come learn it from me.

[00:32:52] And there is a different

[00:32:54] kind of happiness

[00:32:55] in your eyes

[00:32:56] when you're doing it,

[00:32:57] Dolly.

[00:32:58] He said the world

[00:32:59] will say that

[00:33:00] what is this girl doing?

[00:33:02] She's standing in a blouse

[00:33:03] and petticoat.

[00:33:04] How bad is it?

[00:33:05] She's big.

[00:33:06] She's not getting stretch marks.

[00:33:07] I've heard all of these.

[00:33:08] You know,

[00:33:09] why don't you join the gym?

[00:33:10] You should do

[00:33:11] gymming first.

[00:33:12] You should make yourself

[00:33:13] slim and then come on

[00:33:14] the frame.

[00:33:14] God knows what and all.

[00:33:15] And Naveen said

[00:33:16] these are the things

[00:33:18] you will hear, Dolly.

[00:33:19] But forget about it.

[00:33:21] Your body

[00:33:22] is exactly

[00:33:23] an aamjanta body.

[00:33:25] Every mother

[00:33:25] will have stretch marks.

[00:33:27] Some will have

[00:33:28] the kind of fat

[00:33:29] that you have.

[00:33:30] Nobody is going to be

[00:33:31] a zero-size figure.

[00:33:32] Not what I know

[00:33:34] ladies are.

[00:33:35] And we Indians

[00:33:36] have curvy bodies.

[00:33:38] So embrace it.

[00:33:40] And getting

[00:33:41] these words

[00:33:42] from him

[00:33:42] was like a

[00:33:43] big go.

[00:33:44] And I just

[00:33:45] jumped into it.

[00:33:46] I said,

[00:33:47] I don't need

[00:33:47] models from now.

[00:33:48] I am going to do

[00:33:50] all my videos

[00:33:51] on me.

[00:33:51] You take it.

[00:33:52] If you like,

[00:33:53] leave it.

[00:33:54] You don't like it,

[00:33:55] don't follow me.

[00:33:56] I'm okay with it.

[00:33:57] I'm so glad

[00:33:58] you're talking about this

[00:33:59] because those

[00:34:00] are my favorite

[00:34:01] videos and

[00:34:02] it's so confident

[00:34:05] and it's just

[00:34:05] very empowering

[00:34:07] like I say.

[00:34:07] So I love those

[00:34:08] videos and

[00:34:09] hats off to you

[00:34:10] for putting it

[00:34:10] out there.

[00:34:11] It's very important

[00:34:12] for young women

[00:34:13] and all women

[00:34:14] to be really

[00:34:15] proud of their

[00:34:15] bodies.

[00:34:16] You won't believe

[00:34:17] two days back

[00:34:18] only I was in a

[00:34:19] market and there's

[00:34:20] a lady came up

[00:34:21] to me and she

[00:34:22] said ki,

[00:34:23] Dolly ji,

[00:34:23] you're such a

[00:34:24] big celebrity.

[00:34:25] I'll tell you

[00:34:26] something I don't

[00:34:27] think I'm bad.

[00:34:28] I don't think I'm

[00:34:28] She said,

[00:34:29] don't stand in

[00:34:30] blouse and

[00:34:30] petticoat.

[00:34:59] don't stand in

[00:35:00] people just say anything i mean it's okay yeah that's correct i think that's uh the price one

[00:35:08] pays for being a celebrity it's part and parcel of it but i think what stood out for me from what

[00:35:14] you said was the immense support you have in the family dolly and i think that's very critical and

[00:35:20] it's something women should get and it really encourages them so kudos to your family for that

[00:35:25] yeah yeah so that's really excellent you know it really gives you a lot of impetus to continue

[00:35:30] doing what you're doing and you know you've got the support of people who love you that's very

[00:35:34] important uh and also you know you're not bothered about anything else i mean you know you you literally

[00:35:39] when you have your people around giving you maximum support you actually are not bothered about what

[00:35:46] the world is saying absolutely correct yeah and follow your passion nicely and well so more on

[00:35:54] that you know you've touched upon how you experimented with styles on mannequins models

[00:36:00] yourself and how you know it's not just a sari but it's the sari and chungis and strings and drapes

[00:36:07] and all of that and i read somewhere that i think you do over 300 ways of draping uh i was reading

[00:36:13] some article about you so that's like a huge amount of way of draping a sari it's 325 let me

[00:36:19] okay 325 to be exact so how important is innovation in what you're doing because there's

[00:36:26] already 325 styles right uh that's more than i can even imagine so how important is innovation and

[00:36:32] how often do you keep innovating and experimenting with new things innovation is very important

[00:36:37] because if i if i keep doing one thing every single day if i keep doing one drape to every single bride then

[00:36:44] more than the brides because for bride it is a new thing but for me it is boring you know i get i will

[00:36:49] just feel that the bride has changed the fabric has changed but the drape is still the same so i start

[00:36:55] feeling boring so i think innovation is something that always keeps you to on the go you know when

[00:37:01] i just feel that i'm very you know like rightly what my dad said if you're very comfortable in a room

[00:37:06] it's time for you to leave that room and step out so that is where the innovation thing starts when i'm

[00:37:13] very comfortable with the drape with the fabric i leave that and i get into another fabric where i'm

[00:37:19] not comfortable with it and i want to be comfortable with it so i think that's what keeps me going every

[00:37:25] time i really want to keep coming up with new styles and i think yes the number 325 is definitely a

[00:37:32] huge large number but i'm doing i'm coming up with a coffee table book which says 365 plus one so i've

[00:37:39] not even left the leap here so 365 plus one styles of draping a sari so i think once i achieve all of

[00:37:48] that then i think i might take a i don't know whether i'll take a break but maybe a pause sometime

[00:37:55] the other thing dolly is that you know on our podcast we have a lot of young people listening in

[00:38:01] you know either they are in college or they are in their first jobs all of them have entrepreneurial

[00:38:05] dreams so what are some tools and strategies that have worked for you when you started out in your

[00:38:11] business that you think you want to share with our listeners i think when i started literally i

[00:38:18] didn't know how instagram worked i didn't know you know how you can use instagram in exploring

[00:38:24] and making yourself popular not only here but globally so slowly bit by bit i learned but i would

[00:38:32] say you guys that you know first be thorough in your subject because if you're not thorough in your

[00:38:38] subject if someone puts a question up to you you will not be able to answer so first question yourself

[00:38:46] and then when you're thorough with that then it is time for you to ask the world to ask questions to

[00:38:52] you or to throw their problems up to you i just feel focusing on one topic at a time is very important

[00:39:00] these days i think the young generation wants things too fast they don't have patience it took me 17

[00:39:06] years guys 17 years for you all to know me so you have to give certain amount of dedicated time

[00:39:14] to your audience to your fans to your followers to your society to actually absorb what you're doing

[00:39:21] so i think you need to be confident consistent and i think you need to be religious uh there are two

[00:39:28] three things where i feel the young generation feels that like for me i always give you all my example

[00:39:34] why because everything that i have experienced is what i can share so by doing those two three clients i

[00:39:41] came crying one day to my dad and i said papa mirkona ye nahi karna hai because people don't know how to

[00:39:47] respect an artist they just say koi sari wali a gai hai koi paler wali a gai hai i don't want to know

[00:39:53] all this i am a sari artist papa i should be known like that so papa just said ki bita kitna time

[00:40:19] now what is actually happening is because you don't you lose patience and you feel this is not going to

[00:40:26] work for you you jump into other and by the time you're studying that you just feel even this is not

[00:40:31] working for me you jump into the other so i think that is the only thing that you don't have to do

[00:40:36] be consistent with what you are doing have faith in yourself and it will work because by giving five

[00:40:44] six years to a certain thing you have so much knowledge about that and why do you think i am able

[00:40:50] to charge a certain amount for a drape it is because i've given 17 years to learning what the

[00:40:58] fabric is how it behaves and how it should be put on someone when i do my rights they listen to me

[00:41:05] because they know dolly knows her subject once you know your subject the world will listen to you

[00:41:11] but learn your subject well give time and let the society absorb it so i think that's important

[00:41:18] so you know we've heard so much about uh your determination your passion what your family's

[00:41:24] done for you the kind of advice you've got from some very very interesting people in your life

[00:41:28] so if you were to list the top three things that motivated you or are continuing to motivate you

[00:41:34] what would they be i think the first line that my dad said uh really motivated me in life was

[00:41:40] it's a very ajeebsa line but i still have to say to you when i came crying uh a day when i said

[00:41:48] papa i don't know whether this society is going to really understand what i'm doing

[00:41:52] papa i'm very passionate about this but i don't know if i'm correct or if i'm wrong the society has

[00:41:58] been putting such ugly dirty words on me that pata ne me kya kar you papa but i'm harming no one

[00:42:04] you know the only thing i kept on saying papa i'm harming no one i'm giving my time and it's my passion

[00:42:11] so papa just said one line kutto ka ka kaam bhaukne ka hota hai haati kutto ke bhaukne se nahi ruka karte

[00:42:18] aur aap haati ho to haati ki chaal chalo kutte aaj aapke upar bhauk rehen kal dousro pe bhauk

[00:42:26] i'm sorry but this is what he said and i had to put it up like this only so this is the first thing

[00:42:31] that my dad said and i think the way i looked at things instantly changed if someone on instagram

[00:42:38] would say that uh i can see your stretch marks and you're looking so ugly with those stretch marks

[00:42:43] the reply would go i'm so glad you saw my stretch marks that means you know that i have i have babies

[00:42:50] and these are the beautiful gift that my baby has given me so you know the way you see things

[00:42:56] just changed the second good line that i think was given was by by was someone i i would not mention

[00:43:04] but yeah the second best line was a beautiful story that was said by someone they said ki dolly aap apni

[00:43:12] uraan itni uchi karlo and be like an eagle you know eagle is the only bird who can fly really high

[00:43:20] and crow is the only bird who sits on eagle's back and keeps hurting the eagle but the eagle doesn't

[00:43:28] waste the time in shooing away the crow what eagle does it eagle keeps flying high high and higher

[00:43:37] and what actually happens is because of less of oxygen crow falls down now this this is to all those

[00:43:45] people who actually said dolly you're wasting your time you can't make any money out of it stop doing

[00:43:51] this stupid work get into kitty parties why did you come and join our party we have these ladies group

[00:43:58] and we have this group and that group for all those ladies this is an answer i was concentrating

[00:44:04] into flying high high and higher and that high where these kind of crows they literally didn't affect me

[00:44:12] at all so never waste your time in removing negative things make use your time in adding positive

[00:44:20] things in your character in your work rather than concentrating unhoneh aisa bol diya and it's

[00:44:26] upsetting you yeah unhoneh aisa bol diya and it is upsetting i think i didn't waste time in that i

[00:44:32] actually only concentrated in polishing myself i think that's all that i did everybody has been given

[00:44:38] 24 hours guys if we don't utilize our 24 hours in polishing ourselves and making our home our society

[00:44:47] a better place for us to live in nobody else is going to do just don't keep saying this has done

[00:44:53] bad for me this has done bad for me what good have you done for yourself that is what is also very

[00:44:59] important the third line i think these lines are very beautiful because it's been said that dolly the

[00:45:07] way you pleat is it's been said by ravina tundan actually she just said dolly comes and she does

[00:45:14] the zip zip zap zoom and the sari is done so i think that zip zip zap zoom is always there in my mind

[00:45:21] excellent no i think that's brilliant concentrate on what you want to do and make it a success

[00:45:26] nothing better than that so on your success dolly i know you've told us about the coffee table book so we

[00:45:32] look forward to that but what next for you beyond that have you thought of doing something else after

[00:45:37] the little pause you want to take do you have some thoughts in your mind about what you would like to

[00:45:41] do professionally i keep thinking of taking a pause but i think the society will not allow me to take

[00:45:46] a pause because every day the designers are coming with new sadis and i really want to explore i want

[00:45:51] to see what manish is making or what sabya is making i want to drape them and i want to see how it

[00:45:56] falls because the weavers are blending beautiful blends these days so i think my next thing that

[00:46:02] i would want to do is open an online academy on all the 366 styles of draping and i want to put it up as a

[00:46:10] full academy not only for you know the people who are into the fashion industry like nift or you know

[00:46:18] nid and all of these students but also for all those who want to take draping as a profession

[00:46:24] i think this is going to be something that i would want to give my dedicated time to this online course

[00:46:30] and once i do this i think there will be so much so much to learn from my uh you know online portal

[00:46:37] that's a big project yeah it is it is yeah so uh dolly with this it brings us uh to the end of our

[00:46:44] first part of the conversation lots of stories lots of anecdotes a lot of serious stuff too and uh

[00:46:51] love uh the way that you spoke about you know these lines and what they mean and uh how one should live

[00:46:57] one's life so we have our next segment called quick takes uh these quick takes are five quick

[00:47:02] questions are going to come your way and be looking forward to like quick responses uh and uh we'll take

[00:47:08] it from there okay so your first quick take dolly what is the one single biggest life lesson that you

[00:47:16] want to share with our listeners always be true to yourself if you stand in front of the mirror and

[00:47:22] if the mirror says you're a true person and the mirror is not judging you for anything i think that's

[00:47:28] what i feel is a true thing and if we were to ask you to sing a song today dolly what song would come

[00:47:34] to your mind and why would that song come to your mind i love singing i don't know which song but

[00:47:40] anytime any song can just come because i think uh this is a song that me and naveen we both love

[00:47:46] so i think that's one song that i would love which one so why don't you sing a few lines

[00:47:50] yeah why don't you sing a few lines that would be so much fun yeah we didn't know you could sing so

[00:47:54] please go ahead

[00:48:05] sorry this is not the song that we both love i'm going to sing you the other song yeah yeah please

[00:48:10] it is uh what does that naveen sing that one line i'm not getting that one which movie will help you

[00:48:16] no it is we have to call naveen

[00:48:22] she's calling him now she's doing the needful oh god that is shocking poor naveen

[00:48:30] love you please this is like kornbane ka karoarpati style dial somebody

[00:48:35] but imagine my husband is not answering my call but i'll still sing a song for you yeah please

[00:48:58] nice your husband came through and a great song too

[00:49:01] he came through

[00:49:06] so the quick take number three what makes you angry donny

[00:49:10] a badly folded sari i think that means very angry i have an ocd problem if my sari hangers

[00:49:19] are not put in that alignment or if my decodes are not placed properly if the color shade is not

[00:49:26] going well if it is not ivory to black tone i think that gives that makes me really very angry

[00:49:32] when you said that badly draped sari then you shouldn't be seeing me at all

[00:49:36] no no no not badly draped sari because for me i will always feel anytime some when i see someone

[00:49:41] i will just feel okay i could have done this on her or i could just correct this on her

[00:49:45] so that's always there in my mind yeah yeah correct correct it's not a badly draped sari but

[00:49:50] i can say that there is a source of improvement there so you know uh dolly you spoke about looking

[00:49:56] into the mirror and really be true to yourself so what is it about yourself that you love the most

[00:50:02] and when you see that in yourself you say hey i am true to myself what is that one thing my honest

[00:50:07] smile i think that's what i feel when i look into my eyes i just feel that these eyes are true

[00:50:14] what they're saying and seeing is true they've never hurt anyone knowingly and they never laugh on

[00:50:22] people if they failed on something so it's a true smile and it's a true sparkle when i you see it in my

[00:50:29] eyes you will believe it right so yeah right and maybe it's an obvious quick take but we still want to

[00:50:36] ask who is your favorite celeb to dress up tipica tipica is my favorite uh from the bollywood uh thing

[00:50:47] and from the south belt i think nain tara i've been doing them for years now and they've been like

[00:50:52] family to me now so with that uh dolly we come to an end with uh quick takes and also a conversation

[00:50:59] we've had such a wonderful time and thank you thank you for being there and all the best for your book

[00:51:04] we look forward to that in fact thank you guys so much for inviting me taking chances i've never

[00:51:11] had these kind of questions and you know it was just feeling as if i'm just you're just not too far

[00:51:17] away and i feel i've been speaking to a friend and i've poured my heart out to you guys so thank you

[00:51:23] for giving me this opportunity to be on such a beautiful platform thank you so much dolly thanks a lot

[00:51:29] thank you we hope this podcast encourages you to follow your dreams listeners we will be back

[00:51:38] very soon with more chance takers till then have a good day and do like and share this podcast

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