"Whoever You Are" by Geggy Tah (f/Taylor Morden)

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[00:02:00] All I want to do is do thank you, even though I don't know who you are.

[00:02:07] You left me changelane when I was driving in my car.

[00:02:12] All I want to do is do thank you, even though I don't know.

[00:02:15] This week we extend our gratitude to all the exceptional drivers out there.

[00:02:20] Perhaps one of you even served as inspiration for Gaggitas hit song Whoever You Are.

[00:02:25] This laid back track which encourages embracing lane changes became a minor sensation in the mid 90s.

[00:02:32] Despite later featuring in car commercials, Gaggitas struggled to replicate this success with another hit.

[00:02:38] Taylor Morton, a devoted fan of the band and director of BAMPIRE, joins us this week to dissect the infectious charm of this too.

[00:03:08] Welcome back Taylor. This is probably your third or fourth appearance on One Hit Thunder.

[00:03:28] I've got to tell you guys something crazy. I just realized a few minutes before we were about to start recording this episode about Gaggitas, Whoever You Are.

[00:03:38] This song is about driving in your car and this album that this is on sacred cow came out on April 23rd of 1996 which is one day before I turned 16 and I got my license on my 16th birthday.

[00:03:56] I started driving one day after this album with this song about driving came out.

[00:04:03] That's amazing. That's so good.

[00:04:06] That's top tier right there. Let me ask a big question before we dive into Gaggitas.

[00:04:12] Do we talk about how important one of the members from Gaggitas is now or do we save that for the end?

[00:04:21] I'm not sure if we can save it or we'll get there. That was something I forgot about until I was doing research for this and then I was like oh yeah.

[00:04:29] One of these dudes is very important in music right now.

[00:04:33] Taylor chose the song and sometimes we ask people why did you choose the song?

[00:04:37] I don't know. I just picked it off the list that that sent to me but I would think that maybe there's a chance that Taylor would have had this album or been a Gaggita fan.

[00:04:48] Oh man. Are you? Oh man. Oh I love it.

[00:04:51] Huge Gaggita fan. One of my favorite records of the 90s. Wow.

[00:04:55] This song right before and we're all friends. We know I'm a big Scott Punk, Scott music guy. I'm a trumpet player.

[00:05:03] That was my world in the 90s but the year before I found Scott this was my gateway into trumpets being in music.

[00:05:11] There was this banding that was cake. And hearing this song on the radio I am very clearly remember being like oh man there's a trumpet in this and I went and I found the record and I listened to every song.

[00:05:25] I'm one of those people that's like this whole album is fantastic. It's got no skips but it was just really like I've very vivid memories of sitting on the floor in my living room with my trumpet trying to figure out Gaggita songs.

[00:05:38] I love it. I love that. So hours. I agree with you that sacred cow is a very good no skip record. I don't know if I think that stands for the album before and the album after this by Gaggita.

[00:05:56] Like when I was listening to all of the other albums to refresh me because I have sacred cow. I don't have the albums before after so today was the first time I was exposed to the rest of their catalog and it really feels like there was some like magic moment that that was really clicking between the band and their producer where like this album is so like it sounds good.

[00:06:21] It's interesting it's weird. It's almost like if you were to look at their three albums as like a as like an evolution the first album is like too weird to be even remotely like poppy or interesting and then this second album sacred cow finds this nice blend of like it's still really weird and really experimental but it's got like more of a pop like radio friendly sound and then I think

[00:06:50] the third album is just like forgettably bland because all of the weirdness seems to be sucked out of it like it just feels like a generic acoustic album at that point like it this was like that perfect middle piece of them like finding their footing in both of those worlds.

[00:07:07] I don't think they were able to find again unfortunately but it's interesting to look at between this album and when their third album eventually came out there's a lot of them came out five years after sacred cow which might be part of why.

[00:07:24] They really didn't have much of an even really an opportunity to have a second hit in that time though one of the band members Tommy Jordan I found this fascinating played the steel drums on Jack Johnson's flute flake like the big first single from Jack Johnson.

[00:07:43] So it's like oh that's that makes the world of Jack Johnson and Gaggy Ta interacting makes a ton of sense to me I don't know if I know a single Jack Johnson song who's Jack Johnson.

[00:07:56] Jack Johnson he's like you might have avoided Jack Johnson with all of with what you listen to I think he's like he's like best buds with Dave Matthews like did a bunch of stuff with Jimmy Buffett like he's

[00:08:10] different is he a different guy than Jason Moraz. He's same same world. Okay.

[00:08:17] I don't know which of those two guys did either of those songs. Yeah the Jack Johnson song that I'm talking about flake that was probably one of his biggest like radio hits it was the like.

[00:08:40] You might just let it go.

[00:08:47] Okay so he sounds like Jason Razz all right. Hey I play Jason Razz Dave Matthews mashup. I gotta tell you now Taylor's known this album forever

[00:08:56] I guess you had it too Matt. I'm new to sacred cowl of course I knew this song but I've been listening to the sacred cowl day and I'm like damn.

[00:09:04] A lot of times these mid 90s alternative bands that I didn't really dive into I'm kind of like there's one or two songs for okay this album is pretty awesome.

[00:09:15] It's a mix of rock and jazz and indie rock and chaos like yeah. When we're recording this album there's even a little touch of today I was listening to the new MGMT came out today and I was

[00:09:30] listening to that and I'm like these guys on certain songs are almost like MGMT before MGMT existed it's two guys just making experimental music some of it is poppy and catchy as hell like this song.

[00:09:44] This song starts out like it's going to be like the first 30 seconds of this song I you would have no idea it's going to go where it goes and being like this pop hit.

[00:09:56] It takes a hard turn yeah but I really like it I think it's cool I agree with you it's really interesting that that that build like the keyboard and like there's like these whispers and then it goes into what I saw one random blog I was trying to find some information

[00:10:12] because there's not a lot of information about gaggy talk out there so trying to find I found a brand of dudes blog just writing about this song and he described it as he said if there was a word to describe the opposite of grunge gaggy talk would be it.

[00:10:28] It's like he's not wrong when I so I pulled up since it was so hard for me to find like that much information about them or even I couldn't even find when they were on the billboard charts

[00:10:40] like Google searches were not helping me find specific date it peaked yeah hold on a second this is one of those instances where we're kind of really stretching the definition of hit because this song now I remember seeing this on MTV so yeah as far as I'm concerned if something was big enough to be seen on MTV it was a hit but that's not really true this song only went to number 16 on the modern rock.

[00:11:09] Modern rock tracks chart not even like yeah I don't even think it it went into the hot 100 which is why you're probably having it did but it peaked it 67 so again like barely barely really making an impression there either.

[00:11:26] It was over the radio here I don't know if that's what I mean it was a radio hit and the fact that it took until 2001 for a car to like a Mercedes Benz finally use it in a car commercial like this.

[00:11:38] It should have been in car commercials the week it came out like there's never like not only is it literally a song about a car it has the laid back vibe of like driving with your windows down like this is the sound of driving around in the summer with your windows yeah but I wanted to look at like what was the I wanted some type of chart representation so what I ended up pulling up was what every single number one song was on the modern rock charts for the year 1990.

[00:12:08] So like to like paint us a picture here of like how kind of out of the box their sound was to everything else so I'm going to rock through these real quick.

[00:12:18] So it started with a Wases wonder wall that peaked at number one on December 30th and stayed at number one for nine straight weeks wow then smashing pumpkins 1979 took that spot for one week before a Wases took it back.

[00:12:34] Okay then a Lannis Morris set ironic had it for three weeks. A Wases came back with champagne supernova for five weeks the cranberries salvation had it for four weeks and now we are about to hit a string of one hit wonders that were like vying for this top spot Tracy Bonham mother mother had it for three weeks dish wall

[00:12:59] wall accounting blue cars had it for one week the but holes surfers pepper had it for three weeks primitive radio gods had it for six weeks six weeks.

[00:13:09] Six weeks wow Pearl Jam Pearl Jam song who you are which I barely remember had it for one week 3 11 down had it for four weeks.

[00:13:19] The Eels Novice and for the soul had it for two weeks.

[00:13:23] Sublime what I got had it for three weeks and then the last number one alternative of slash modern rock single to hit number one on November 16th bush swallowed began it seven week hold of the number one alternative song so like really when I look at that list I'm like maybe primitive radio gods yeah like maybe that's like the only band that even kind of feels like in this world.

[00:13:48] Yeah a little bit but hole servers because of the experimental stuff but yeah but all servers was way more antagonistic experimental.

[00:14:00] I don't think man I kind of disagree I don't think that this song feels or this band feels that different what what I think those charts show is like I'll

[00:14:14] that mid 90s all alternative all over the place crazy and yeah primitive radio gods is probably the closest thing where there's stuff being sampled and you have that sort of I don't know

[00:14:29] chilled out both of them are chilled out song she'll chill out and also also that sort of sound sometimes where it sounds like it's underwater.

[00:14:36] Yeah but what I got has a little bit of that too yeah I would say what I would be that to samples and vibes yeah

[00:14:44] and I feel like sublime I feel like sublime doesn't get called out as much anymore but I in my mind I felt like that was

[00:14:56] I knew some scabans just from like watching shit like the box late at night where people would be like calling in to get a suicide machine song on but I yeah but I feel like sublime even more

[00:15:10] that like I think real big fish and all those bands blew it up even further from there but to me sublime was really the first big mainstream like thing where people were starting to be like wait who are these guys

[00:15:21] and it was like them no doubt and then you started getting like the true third wave bands so it does also make sense to me that gaggy

[00:15:30] had this song out just before you started to discover scab music existing like that timeline makes sense to me.

[00:15:37] Yeah also I just had a I was looking at some of the critical reviews for the Sacred Cal album at least the ones that were posted on Wiki and

[00:15:49] you know entertainment weekly said it was a really fine you funky mess chocolate of weird hooks and dance feverish energy my favorite review is twofold I like it because of what magazine wrote this review

[00:16:04] and also what they said now read what they said first sacred cow continues the duels tactful progression into being the modern version of steely Dan

[00:16:13] which I think like all right whatever that was from the trouser press okay they know there's still again over at the

[00:16:21] truck press. Wow so this duo we got to talk about this duo singer Tommy Jordan and keyboardist slash guitarist Greg

[00:16:31] Kirsten now we're going to be talking about Greg Kirsten a lot in a minute but great Kirsten what he said about this era when Gaggy

[00:16:39] Ta started to take off he said I was struggling between playing jazz gigs it makes sense there's a lot of

[00:16:45] jazzy elements in their music and playing with Gaggy Ta in my 20s we're doing a lot of radio shows when that song broke people

[00:16:53] started showing up and we would play our song and they were screaming fans it was a very brief moment and then a reality

[00:16:58] check I thought oh my god I have a song on the radio I can retire now and of course it doesn't work like that you need another single

[00:17:05] and another single after that and we didn't have the follow up so it sounds like Greg kind of agreed with what you were saying Matt

[00:17:11] now I didn't listen to the follow up album that came five years later but it sounds like he kind of knows

[00:17:17] because he was then doing session work he played keyboards on red hatchley peppers California Cation

[00:17:23] Greg Kirsten that's a good red hatchley pepper cell yeah and then and then from there

[00:17:30] Greg Kirsten formed the bird in the bee in 2006 and they had a decent amount of success but Greg Kirsten

[00:17:39] we got to we got to talk about Greg Kirsten first of all one of his first credits as a producer is Lily

[00:17:46] Ellen's all right still which man oh man one of my favorite albums I love that album and he helped co-write my favorite song in that album

[00:17:55] which is of course Alfie about her brother who's one of the stars of Game of Thrones

[00:18:00] right amazing yeah but he and then he stuck I mean he's basically Lily Allen's producer

[00:18:09] he's the producer on every album she ever did which led to him finally get it he got nominated for Grammy Award

[00:18:15] for her album it's not me it's you but he is produced for Adele Beck the few fighters the guerrillas Kendrick Lamar

[00:18:24] Paul McCartney see a pink and a ton others and I wrote down three specific songs that we have to draw attention to

[00:18:31] that he co-wrote yep co-wrote hello with Adele he co-wrote stronger what doesn't kill you for Kelly Clarkson

[00:18:39] and he co-wrote chandelier for Sia which are like three incredible songs and he also produced and co-wrote

[00:18:47] pretty much all of Kelly Clarkson's Christmas album which means that he co-wrote underneath the tree

[00:18:52] which is one of the best Christmas songs of the last like decade in my mind it really is wow I didn't have that I didn't know that one

[00:19:01] that's yeah this dude it's so funny that we're talking about a band that he has one half of on a one hit wonder podcast

[00:19:10] because this dude is responsible for so many hits

[00:19:14] massive hits insane like the guy he co-wrote those and he co-wrote gigitas whoever you are

[00:19:22] yeah that was what got his foot in the door as a songwriter do you think Lily Allen was like get me the whoever you are guy

[00:19:29] it was a gigita guy

[00:19:32] well I gotta tell you this guy billboard had a staff this was like their staff put together this list

[00:19:40] of the top 50 greatest producers of the 21st century and Greg Kirsten they had a bit number 18

[00:19:48] above the following people Greg Kirsten was above all of the following people I'm about to name

[00:19:54] Linda Perry, Benny Blanco, Missy Elliott, Dave Cobb, Dr. Luke, Metro Boomin, Rick Rubin, Rob Cavallo

[00:20:06] and Dr. Dre

[00:20:08] that's pretty impressive do you want to know who he was below I could tell you who he was below if you want some names

[00:20:16] so I wanted to just throw a few things out there because you said this was 21st century right yes

[00:20:22] I mean a few of those artists I feel like their their hits were stronger in the 20th century than the 20th century

[00:20:27] Rob Cavallo and Dr. Dre yeah I can say that also just get Dr. Luke wiped out of existence

[00:20:33] like shouldn't be on any list ever again yeah well but yeah true some of the people that were above Greg

[00:20:40] yes this isn't to put down Greg but some of the people that were above him were Lil John, Mark Ronson, Jack Antenoff, Noah Forty, Shabib, Drake's producer

[00:20:52] Timberland, you know, Forell and Max Martin those people were about him

[00:20:58] but still he's in good company he's in very very good company

[00:21:02] I feel like Lil John's the only one where I'm like how many hits was Lil John creating in the 21st century

[00:21:08] yeah but I guess in the early part that makes sense do you guys remember this video because I even remember watching the music video

[00:21:16] it's like three dudes crammed in a tiny car and it's kind of rock into it's edited into like a driver safety video

[00:21:22] right yeah I can try to recreate the old film look and it's it's pretty good yeah

[00:21:28] it's really good and I feel like they copied that video has been kind of copied in car commercials before they were using this song

[00:21:37] because I feel like the the image of a band jamming in a car with the windows down is one that I've seen after this

[00:21:46] I mean I think of the there was that one bit the free credit report dot com band definitely had at least one video

[00:21:53] where they're playing inside of a car but I feel like I've seen car commercials advertising that as well

[00:21:58] of the people hanging out in the car rocking out yeah I feel like the free credit report dot com band started as a giggie talk

[00:22:05] over band that's probably I have no proof but you might be right sounds right

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[00:24:23] don't hesitate to hit us up we're very nice is this song really about just someone thanking someone for letting you cut over into the lane

[00:24:34] I was trying to figure that out what else would it be I can't find like a metaphor a deeper meaning

[00:24:41] the only other part is like that gaggy ta is on the bike that's the only other thing about the you know

[00:24:50] lyrically in this song it seems like that that's the only I almost wondered when I got to that second verse

[00:24:59] if they if the song starts out as being about like thanking the person for letting them change lanes in the car

[00:25:06] and they kind of use that second verse to also be like hey also thank you to all the fans that have like been there

[00:25:13] supporting us because he says like all I want to do is do is tune in to radio L.A.

[00:25:20] because we're broadcasting live and what we want to hear from you on the mic is gaggy talk but there's a whole lot more for all of y'all

[00:25:27] let us hear you let us hear you in a big echoing holla so I'm wondering if that's almost them just kind of being like hey

[00:25:34] thanks for buying that first album I hope you like the second one

[00:25:37] oh okay so that could be that could be the metaphor here it could be literal it could be that they were

[00:25:44] driving to the radio station right to go do a show right like they get there so thanks yeah I didn't know if

[00:25:51] I was missing some deeper meaning but hey if that's all it is is a thank you to the people who are polite drivers

[00:25:57] I like to think of myself as a polite driver I'm always letting people go over I don't get all fired up like about

[00:26:04] whatever I fired up at road drivers that's where I get is if I'm driving and like there's I've said this

[00:26:11] before my number one road rage level pet peeve is when you're in bumper to bumper traffic

[00:26:18] and someone who thinks that their time is more important than yours is just blowing past you illegally

[00:26:24] in the shoulder I will lose my goddamn mind every time I see it I just want to see a cop car pull out of nowhere and

[00:26:31] pull that person over every single time yeah but yes now people make mistakes

[00:26:37] more of the offspring song about every yeah I got a bad habit

[00:26:42] companion songs yeah I prefer this one there's there is another lyric in the song that I really like

[00:26:50] which is so I drive around all day coming atmosphere a case I don't know what that means but I like how it sounds

[00:26:58] I think it's causing atmosphere case because of the car emissions

[00:27:03] I didn't read the lyrics but that's how I heard it in 1996 and that's what I believe it to be

[00:27:09] that that makes more sense listen Google lyrics have led me wrong before and they

[00:27:14] will come in atmosphere case I could also see your driving around yes you're contributing to

[00:27:22] and you're also seeing if they're in LA you have right you have the smog

[00:27:27] coming at mystery case yeah I think that's I mean it's for sure about pollution and saving the environment

[00:27:33] right yeah so I want to talk about Greg Kirsten a little bit more we got off of him pretty quick

[00:27:40] sure the dude has nine Grammys he won producer of the year back-to-back in 2017 and 2018

[00:27:46] he also produced Tegan and Sarah's heartthrob yes both he collaborated with Adele on the

[00:27:54] 25 and 30 so much stuff like dude he produced Paul McCartney's Egypt station album

[00:28:03] like yeah regardless of what you think of that album if Paul McCartney won't see to

[00:28:09] produce his album I don't think it gets it doesn't get any bigger than that does it

[00:28:13] well and also like at at the end of the day I feel like 95% of musicians who play music

[00:28:21] probably like the Beatles but I think Gaggy top really likes the Beatles so that's

[00:28:27] to have been a really cool thing to work with with a beetle just based on the vibe of their

[00:28:34] sound so yeah do you think at any point he went up to accept one of those Grammys

[00:28:40] and he said listen all I want to do is to thank you it's no I don't know who you are

[00:28:47] it's it's wild that these people that we find out about on this podcast this once

[00:28:54] again taking it back to primitive radio gods we found out that on that

[00:29:00] episode that the guy JD who was like the manager who was like in their corner

[00:29:05] and insisted that they keep going until that song is finally hit is the guy

[00:29:10] who runs crush management who like is the biggest management company of like

[00:29:15] everybody we's a green day freaking everybody everybody you can imagine but

[00:29:21] we didn't know that we're just like who is the guy that really insisted the primitive radio

[00:29:25] gods stick it out from this from this demo song well this is also I think in the

[00:29:31] in the same line that we've stumbled into with like Dan Wilson and Greg

[00:29:36] Alexander of like one hit wonders who have literally created a full successful

[00:29:43] career off of the power of a single song like you know I not that I think

[00:29:50] gaggy talk was what sprung board him into producing well why not like it didn't

[00:29:56] I had a good meeting you don't know yeah you never know I just I feel like the

[00:30:01] timeline is so separated from the song coming out in his first production

[00:30:06] job I could find it's possible on the other hand we have all this amazing

[00:30:11] stuff about Greg Kirsten I guess the only thing that any of us can find

[00:30:18] about Tommy Jordan is he played steel drums on a Jack Johnson song is that the

[00:30:24] only piece of info you have about Tommy Jordan a pretty big Jack John listen

[00:30:29] the Jack Johnson heads who are listening they're like he played on flake like

[00:30:33] they're going to be super excited about this okay if you say so I think

[00:30:37] they call themselves jack offs jack off yeah I found one one post somewhere

[00:30:44] I was trying to look this guy up and he did like a drop in acoustic set with

[00:30:48] somebody a couple years ago okay cool they were like dude from gaggy

[00:30:52] ties here so I he's not dead is okay I could find good I'm glad he's

[00:30:57] here he's played let's let's show respect we're respects to he played

[00:31:01] steel drums I decided to Google this he played steel drums on what was

[00:31:05] decided to be two thousand twos best performing song on the adult alternative

[00:31:11] airwaves chart on bill wow really yeah okay how do I not know this song then

[00:31:18] I know some Jason Rads like I'm yours that's Jason Rads but I feel like I

[00:31:23] feel like there's no way you listen to a song that in the first 30 seconds was

[00:31:27] just an acoustic guitar and steel drums and stuck around I like still drums I

[00:31:32] like I like and I feel like I feel like if you check out the song it's not

[00:31:37] like oh he played steel drums and you get the song is mostly steel

[00:31:42] okay it's like steel drums and acoustic guitar and a bass line that sounds

[00:31:48] but my alley I don't know yeah it seems like Tommy Jacob who is literally the

[00:31:53] voice of you Tommy Jordan Tommy Jake Ubs isn't that like a clone I have no clue

[00:31:59] man I also caught him John I think I caught him Jake Johnson a couple times

[00:32:03] Jake Johnson from New York this is a lot there's a lot happening my brain

[00:32:08] right now yeah Tommy Jordan for being the singer of this band definitely

[00:32:13] does not have the the level of clout that we're finding for Greg we've

[00:32:19] talked for almost 30 minutes and we haven't mentioned what the band name means

[00:32:23] did you happen to see what Gaggy Tommy's I did they both had younger sisters

[00:32:28] who couldn't pronounce their names when they were very young so Greg was Gaggy

[00:32:32] and Ta I guess with Tommy so Gaggy Ta I like it so they just combined how

[00:32:37] their sister mispronounced their names and made it into a band yeah that's

[00:32:41] beautiful hey when the best version I've heard for a band name but certainly far

[00:32:46] from the worst version of Alabama's gotten it's you know I talked about how this

[00:32:51] album came out the day before I turned 16 and got my driver's license so I

[00:32:56] looked back at April of 1996 to see like what happened other than me getting

[00:33:01] my driver's license and it was like the most usually I can find like 20 things

[00:33:06] it was like the most uneventful month of like note worthy things but I will tell

[00:33:11] you one thing one exactly one week before that album came out on your

[00:33:15] Taylor joy was born so Chris you should update that Wikipedia to include

[00:33:20] that you got your driver's license I'll do my best I get his driver's license

[00:33:27] I got a game for you guys I was hoping you did let's do this you guys want to play a

[00:33:33] game yeah so here's how it's going to work it's songs about driving all right and I'm

[00:33:41] gonna I'm gonna read a lyric from a song about driving and if you could be the

[00:33:48] first one to name what song that is now here's how you're going to buzz in Matt

[00:33:53] if you want to if you want to buzz in you have to say Gaggy I was hoping that this is

[00:33:58] your go Taylor Taylor Taylor Taylor your tie of course so whoever whoever buzzes

[00:34:05] in first there are what how many lyrics I have seven lyrics here so well the

[00:34:11] stakes are high here we got to see do we need the song and artists are just the

[00:34:16] song if you if you get the song it's fine I think you'll know who all the art if

[00:34:21] you know the song you're gonna know the artist I think all of it is making sure

[00:34:24] all right you guys ready ready lyric one from Mozambique to those Memphis

[00:34:30] nights the Kyber past the Vancouver's lights I know this lyric I'm just trying to

[00:34:36] I'm trying to take what you said and sing it to whatever melody it's actually sung

[00:34:43] to I'm surprised if you guys need a hint I don't know it can you sit can use

[00:34:48] actually sing it instead of reading no I'm not going to do that I'll give it away

[00:34:51] but I will say here I'll give you guys a hint this is a song we've done on one hit

[00:34:56] thunder I know no it's a one hit wonder is it the theme from where in the world

[00:35:04] is Carmen San Diego oh oh oh oh Gaggy Gaggy all right Gaggy it's life is a highway

[00:35:09] which I'm that's right for Mozambique to those Memphis nights the Kyber past the Vancouver's

[00:35:15] lights knock me down I've really turned around on that song since we recorded that

[00:35:26] episode that's all right like this a highway okay lyric two I got no car and it's

[00:35:34] breaking my heart but I found a driver and that's a start I don't recognize

[00:35:43] this lyric at all no Gaggy your talk here yeah I'm already tapping out you guys

[00:35:54] you guys tapping out on this one you said it one more time just I got no car

[00:35:58] and it's breaking my heart but I found a driver and that's a start yeah I got

[00:36:04] nothing yeah I don't think I know it either beep beep beep yeah that's drive my car

[00:36:12] uh sorry guys not my favorite Beatles song I like that song it's a good song all

[00:36:19] right Matt Stone the lady got it's it's 1 0 lyric 3 I'm in the mood the rhythm is

[00:36:26] right move to the music yeah we can roll all night yeah remember these are all

[00:36:36] songs about driving yeah can you say that one again I'm in the mood the rhythm is

[00:36:42] right move to the music yeah we can roll all night yeah

[00:36:52] Todd oh go for it I just just a guess but is it get out of my dreams get into my car

[00:36:59] sorry it is not yeah you got a hint for us

[00:37:06] um that one yeah I don't I don't have a hint for you then I'm not gonna I'm not

[00:37:12] going to tag in on this one I was going to keep my one point lead sorry guys that

[00:37:16] was slow ride from fog hat oh all right take it easy easy yeah I didn't know

[00:37:24] this is going to be so hard I'll be the sun shining on you

[00:37:31] hey Cinderella step in your shoe I'll be your nonstop lover get it while you

[00:37:37] can your nonstop miracle I'm your man

[00:37:44] I think of a song where some guy calls a girl Cinderella I'm gonna be shocked if one

[00:37:49] of you guys don't get this one I'll be the sun shining on you hey Cinderella

[00:37:55] step in your shoe I'll be your nonstop lover get it while you can your

[00:38:01] nonstop miracle I'm your man I'm gonna gaggy go for it I'm gonna just say what he

[00:38:09] said earlier is it get out of my dreams into my car by believe it sure is I

[00:38:13] like I didn't believe it he guessed it the one before well I guess it before

[00:38:19] because I didn't know the words to it yeah that's I'll be the sun shining on you

[00:38:24] hey Cinderella step in your shoe I'll be your nonstop lover get it while you

[00:38:31] can your nonstop miracle I'm your man get out of my dreams I'm in this moment I've

[00:38:40] realized that I do not know any of the verses that's that's the pre-chorus that

[00:38:44] sets it all up that's the problem the chorus is so strong yeah it's kind of like

[00:38:49] higher love like I know higher loves a great song but I think if you asked me

[00:38:53] any of the verses to that would be like I don't know man it's that bring me a higher

[00:38:57] love do do do do do all right so Matt you got a two oh lead we're on lyric number

[00:39:03] five remember these are all songs about driving yep jack b nimble jack b quick

[00:39:11] oh oh oh oh oh take a ride on a west coast kick oh oh oh oh oh I

[00:39:21] definitely feel like I know this one I totally know this one but oh I feel like

[00:39:25] the oh I'm like ignoring the other thing to the melody no I know you're not and

[00:39:34] the melody of those ohs would give it away in point two seconds I almost want

[00:39:40] you to want you to do it for the speed run of it all if you guys want me to yeah

[00:39:46] let's do it let's I've got a 2.20 lead what's the worst to get out I'm not even in

[00:39:50] this game jack b nimble jack b quick oh take go go holiday road you got it holiday

[00:40:01] road oh damn it yep okay all right it's 2.1 we got two left all right lyric six like a

[00:40:13] band of gypsies we go down the highway were the best of friends insisting that

[00:40:19] the world go for it on the road again you got it damn it it's too to time here we go man it comes

[00:40:30] down to this I don't know if this isn't easy what or not but remember these are all songs about

[00:40:34] driving when I'm holding your wheel all I hear is your gear with my hand on your grease gun

[00:40:44] oh it's like a disease son this is a challenging one I mean rhyming grease gun with disease son

[00:40:52] next level oh boy I think I'm gonna stay out of this one oh wow when I'm holding your wheel

[00:41:03] oh wait is there any you're not deducting points for it being wrong no I go for it is it highway to

[00:41:12] hell it is not sorry right I mean I guess he's out and I can't do anything but keep it a tie

[00:41:20] for being wrong so I guess gaggy um go for it I know I don't know why because I don't think that

[00:41:28] I have ever heard this man say disease son but the car analogy doesn't feel too far off from

[00:41:34] other lyrics in born to run by Bruce Springsteen so I'm going with that sorry it was actually

[00:41:41] I'm in love with my car from queen oh by queen yes that's who says grease gun

[00:41:49] that's my game guys that's my liking that's my game one game but I don't know what how do we

[00:41:57] feel about gaggy ta so okay we're saying so good thunder or blunder is how I should say this I

[00:42:05] guess is right I should know that by now yeah I guess you're saying thunder I was a thunder before

[00:42:13] you know right for 25 years this song's been a thunder for me I think I'm actually gonna go blunder

[00:42:20] and I'm gonna go blunder for a couple reasons I'm gonna go blunder because like I said the

[00:42:27] album before this and the album after this not great I do like saker cow a lot but I also think

[00:42:33] that this is there there's no like hidden could have been the bigger single song on saker cow this

[00:42:41] is the standout song hey I will say the song right after what the third the third track on the

[00:42:48] album the like punk song yeah I think what what's it called yeah what's the third the third track

[00:43:00] the first track is like a voice message from his grandfather then the second song is whoever you are

[00:43:06] but the third song that song's awesome third song is called a lot of stuff that song that's

[00:43:11] song that's great that's the video for that song yeah they did in a way that I had always wanted to

[00:43:17] do a video where they went to a 90s electronic store and filmed it on the VHS cameras in the

[00:43:22] store like brought their own tape just used the ones in the store and never took them out of the store

[00:43:27] right yeah it's pretty good video yeah in the mid 90s that could have been an alternative hit I

[00:43:32] think that song was really good it could have worked yeah I just I think that everything that

[00:43:36] Greg has done afterwards has been impressive I just to me when I think of like thunder or blunder

[00:43:44] right in my mind I think if I'm saying a song is thunder I am saying to the audience hey

[00:43:52] you really need to dive so much deeper into this band because you're missing out on so much great

[00:43:57] stuff and as much as I like the album saker cow I'm also saying you know if whoever you are is

[00:44:02] the only song that you know by giggy ta like that's fine you're not raining the song you're

[00:44:09] raiding the rest of their catalog yeah the rest of their catalog yeah I'm looking at it through

[00:44:14] the lens of gaggy cow if we're just talking about the song like yeah whoever you are is an amazing

[00:44:20] song but giggy ta themselves maybe maybe a bit of a blunder maybe a bit of a blunder on there

[00:44:27] so Chris you got to tie break it yeah I'll tie break it so I can see a lot of times one of the

[00:44:33] criteria for deciding thunder or blunder is should this band have been bigger than they were did

[00:44:39] they have all these hidden gems that should have been hits and it was a bad deal that they only

[00:44:49] had one hit that's kind of a good point that Matt started to make is like I really like this sacred

[00:44:54] cow I'm I'm surprised at how much I like it it's weird as hell I like shit that's weird as hell

[00:45:01] like I said I like that third song and on the album but I do agree that

[00:45:08] this is like there one hit that I heard one song that it's kind of lucky that this song was even

[00:45:14] a hit it's catchy it's catchy but like when you named all those songs that were number one in the

[00:45:20] mid 90s I was like geez hit after hit after hit like undeniable hit and the fact that gaggy

[00:45:26] tile with their experimental sort of catchy little jazzy song even made a blip on the radar is

[00:45:34] is kind of impressive but at the same time I'm taking into consideration what a beast great

[00:45:41] cursed in is and also and I know that that's not necessarily gaggy tile but I can't help but know

[00:45:48] that and also the fact how much I like this album that I feel like it would be a damn shame

[00:45:55] for me to go blunder on this I think I have to go thunder on gaggy top I think if anyone's out

[00:46:00] there listening and you haven't checked out gaggy tile you probably should check out this album

[00:46:05] sacred cow it's pretty cool well and I've got another message for the people who are listening

[00:46:10] to this before they even play sacred cow they should also maybe check out vampire movie dot com

[00:46:17] hey because our boy is on the show because he's got an indiegogo campaign to promote

[00:46:23] one of the most interesting horror comedies I've heard about in a really long time so sir the

[00:46:29] stage is all yours tell us why people should be checking out everything about vampire

[00:46:34] oh because it's it's almost as good as gaggy top it's exactly as weird as gaggy top and it takes

[00:46:42] place in the mid 90s so I'm gonna call gaggy top see if we can get a song on the soundtrack but

[00:46:49] uh it's an indie horror comedy that we shot here in the Pacific Northwest um and what makes it

[00:46:55] stand out hopefully from the other 452 thousand indie horror comedies that come out this year is

[00:47:01] that it's a mix of live action and cartoons so like evil dead two meets who framed Roger rabbit

[00:47:08] oh so we've got uh because it's it's also based on bambi because public domain says we can do whatever

[00:47:15] we want it because it's the future nice um but you know I'm not a deer wrangler so we just said

[00:47:21] what if what if all the animals were cartoons and then we just went with that it's wild but making

[00:47:29] cartoons is expensive and time consuming so that's where you come in indie go-go backers uh because

[00:47:35] we want to finish this insane horror comedy Roger rabbit 90s movie hell yeah and you've um you've told me

[00:47:45] uh that like something I think is really interesting and cool is your vision for this

[00:47:51] is so let's say a cartoon deer is attacking a live action human that the gore won't be animated

[00:47:59] though the gore is happening in real time so it'll be like yes gore effects coming out of the

[00:48:04] human while the cartoon is eating them practice the blood is awesome yeah yeah yeah so just because

[00:48:09] the monster had to be cartoon doesn't mean the blood has to be cartoon you gallons and gallons

[00:48:14] and gallons of blood uh fake blood to do it as real as we could and so we've got you know as much

[00:48:22] as I could wrap my head around how to make people interact with a cartoon thing that's not there

[00:48:28] we did a lot of that and so yeah there's there's real gore and cartoon animals dude has

[00:48:36] um my mind's kind of blown has I don't think I've ever heard of well I guess it hasn't been done

[00:48:42] that much at all really you would have thought that Hugh who framed Roger rabbit would have

[00:48:48] opened the door to like the mix of live action with animation and it really has to cool world

[00:48:56] cool world yeah that's what it led to and then that was such a disaster that they stopped doing it

[00:49:01] yeah cool world was supposed to be I mean if you look at what the movie core was supposed to be

[00:49:05] it was very interesting so the original intention of the movie because it's about a guy who creates

[00:49:11] a cartoon character goes into that cartoon world and at some point has sex with that cartoon creation

[00:49:17] that was essentially supposed to be the first like 10 minutes of the movie and then the movie

[00:49:22] was that the cartoon character gives birth to a child that is half human half animate it

[00:49:28] and it comes to the real world seeking revenge for the father that created him as this like

[00:49:34] freakish monstrosity that can't exist in either world uh and then the studios were like

[00:49:40] yeah we're not in the business for an R rated very expensive niche movie like you're just

[00:49:46] going to make a slightly edger Roger rabbits right that's all we went we went hard R with this one

[00:49:53] yeah this is for sure an R rated Roger rabbit but also if we raise enough money on the Indiegogo

[00:49:58] I'm getting the rights and we're making cool world too that sounds insane that's such and I like

[00:50:06] I love the idea of what that would look like to have like a person who's half cartoon half human

[00:50:11] like that's awesome two things first of all when you started to save if we raise enough money Taylor

[00:50:17] I thought you're gonna say we're gonna release the NC 17 version of it uh but also yeah but still

[00:50:26] it's surprising to me okay cool world wasn't a hit movie but Roger rabbit was so huge and so

[00:50:34] groundbreaking and it's a freaking awesome movie yeah that's a really good movie well the new

[00:50:41] chip-and-dale rescue rangers movie is like that yeah I didn't know it was good I like that movie yeah

[00:50:45] that was really really good I think the problem also like we on so on the horror movie night patreon

[00:50:53] page will review non-har movies that people vote on and we recently did rock a doodle uh the

[00:51:00] Don Bluth movie from the 90s and let me tell you that movie is three or four years after who

[00:51:07] frame Roger rabbit and there is a single sequence where a adult human child is dancing with cartoon

[00:51:14] characters and the like the coloring is all weird and the framing is all off so like what

[00:51:20] is an adult child yet well you know me but I think I think the secret that who frame Roger rabbit

[00:51:32] had that a lot of other people couldn't match was the combination of Robert Semeckis and Walt Disney

[00:51:39] and the backing of all of Warner Brothers as well like it was a very expensive movie to make

[00:51:46] a frame Roger rabbit and it's probably one of those movies that despite how successful it is I am sure

[00:51:51] that Hollywood math says that it is still nowhere near turning a profit really based on well I'm

[00:51:58] not sure if you're familiar with Hollywood math but Hollywood math counting yeah creative accounting

[00:52:02] is very creative accounting says that back to the future has it made profits yeah oh okay because

[00:52:08] they'll be like oh yeah no you're your film cost this much but we put this much into advertising

[00:52:13] you understand it in terms of record label right yes okay oh sorry we didn't recoup because we

[00:52:18] spent all this money promoting the thing what did you yeah or you know or did you put our name

[00:52:24] I lost that's why what's isn't Thomas Wilson who was biff in the in the back to the future movies has

[00:52:33] stayed it that there will never be a fourth back to the future movie or if there is he will not

[00:52:38] be a part of it because he's like my whole contract was based on working cheap on getting a percentage

[00:52:46] of the profits and I've yet to see a single piece of profits all these years later I gotta talk

[00:52:50] to that guy Taylor I've talked about this on the podcast many times no one told a young punchline

[00:52:58] that like Tom Wilson we always thought like well you got to recoup this money like so we want to

[00:53:05] try to break even we don't want to like take tour support or extra money for you didn't know

[00:53:12] that was the only money you'd ever get right yeah we didn't know like if I could go back in time

[00:53:16] I would have taken everything and asked for more we didn't know we were just like we were so used

[00:53:22] to doing everything ourselves for so long and it's like you want to recoup like common sense

[00:53:27] that when we got to a level where it's like oh we could get like we're like no we don't want to

[00:53:32] take that how dumb were we you just believe the people when they tell you I mean the music industry

[00:53:40] in the movie industry are identical in that way that just you know doing it yourself is completely

[00:53:47] different because you try to save a dollar because every dollar you save is the dollar you earn

[00:53:51] right yeah print your own t-shirts as a band so that when you sell them you get six dollars instead

[00:53:56] of four dollars or whatever the you know the profit difference is but then you get to a certain

[00:54:01] point where you're getting a percentage of net gross I don't know how money works but net

[00:54:08] profit off of a thing that will never reach a profit because somebody in a business building

[00:54:13] somewhere is like oh man we spent too much on lunch last week so I guess the punchline record didn't

[00:54:19] break even right yeah I didn't authorize this lunch yeah it's crazy well well that's why

[00:54:26] it's important to support independent filmmakers and independent musicians and a good way to support

[00:54:32] this particular independent filmmaker is bandpiremovie.com thank you

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