"We Are the World" by U.S.A. for Africa

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[00:01:25] Go check it out. There comes a time when we heed a circle, when the world must come together.

[00:01:50] On a remarkable night in 1985, an ensemble of music's brightest stars united to record

[00:01:54] a benefit anthem.

[00:01:56] This song soared to become one of the best-selling singles in music history, and has since served

[00:02:00] as a touchstone for parodies and cultural nods.

[00:02:03] In celebration of the recent Netflix documentary

[00:02:06] Chronicling the Recording Session,

[00:02:07] we at One Hit Thunder have chosen to make an episode

[00:02:10] about this iconic track,

[00:02:11] The Soul Chart Topper by USA for Africa.

[00:02:15] Some will soon make a change.

[00:02:20] We are apart.

[00:02:23] That's great big family

[00:02:26] And the truth, you know love is all we need

[00:02:33] We are the part that's great big family

[00:02:39] And the truth, you know love is all we need money guaranteed. You can live off royalties forever. And it makes me wonder as it shuts

[00:02:51] up water.

[00:02:53] And one hit a funder.

[00:02:56] Matt, we're here this week to talk about that famous one hit wonder group USA for Africa.

[00:03:03] The beloved, I can't believe it took us this long

[00:03:06] to get there Chris.

[00:03:07] Yeah.

[00:03:08] I mean, we should be more transparent about this.

[00:03:10] We're talking about this

[00:03:11] because there's an awesome documentary

[00:03:12] that dropped on Netflix about this.

[00:03:14] And technically this is the only song by USA for Africa.

[00:03:18] That is true.

[00:03:19] It is technically a one hit wonder.

[00:03:21] I wonder how many, I didn't figure out the math,

[00:03:23] but I wonder how many hits between all the people involved.

[00:03:27] Would you say over or under 300 hits

[00:03:30] between all the people involved on this?

[00:03:33] Probably under.

[00:03:35] And I only say that because it's pretty,

[00:03:38] there's like two or three people

[00:03:39] that probably have like a good 50 hits under their belt.

[00:03:43] But then you've got like those artists,

[00:03:45] like I love Huey Lewis and I love Cindy Loper,

[00:03:48] but I feel like they had like a rapid fire group of hits

[00:03:51] and then like kind of fizzled out quickly after that.

[00:03:54] Dude.

[00:03:55] But then you have like a Stevie Wonder or Michael Jackson

[00:03:57] or like a Lionel Richie that just had like hits for days.

[00:04:00] Yeah.

[00:04:01] I would say it'd be pretty damn close to 300 hits

[00:04:03] between all the people involved.

[00:04:05] But yes, if you haven't seen the documentary on Netflix, I think it's called like pop's

[00:04:13] biggest night. The greatest, the greatest night in pop. The greatest night in pop. Oh my

[00:04:16] God. The second I saw it, I was texting Matt like, dude, did you watch this yet? He's like,

[00:04:21] no, no, I have it. And then I think I kept bugging you about it, right? Did you watch this yet? He's like, no, no, I have it. And then I think I kept bugging you about it, right?

[00:04:25] Did you watch it yet?

[00:04:26] I mean, it was brand new.

[00:04:28] Like, yeah, I finally saw it.

[00:04:29] I watched it this morning before we recorded this.

[00:04:33] I think I letterboxed it a four and a half out of five stars.

[00:04:36] Like it's a pretty solid movie.

[00:04:38] What kept that half star away?

[00:04:42] So actually I'll jump to this note.

[00:04:44] If we're doing a quick little

[00:04:45] movie review, I actually think that I would have liked this movie more without the talking

[00:04:50] heads. I think that if this was like getback style, where they just like refurbished all

[00:04:55] of the unedited raw footage of that night, I could have watched that for nine hours.

[00:05:00] You know what I mean? Like just watching them like do the different takes and stuff like that. Like I actually felt like there was a little bit too much of the voice over telling me

[00:05:10] what I was literally watching.

[00:05:11] Yeah.

[00:05:12] Could have just concluded.

[00:05:13] Let me push back.

[00:05:14] I get it.

[00:05:15] Let me push back slightly.

[00:05:17] You didn't love hearing the perspective of Huey Lewis knowing that, okay, Prince is

[00:05:23] isn't showing up. So now you're in Prince's spot and him feeling like,

[00:05:28] not maybe slightly inadequate, you know,

[00:05:30] compared to something, not that he is, he killed it.

[00:05:33] But just hearing his perspective of that

[00:05:36] and Lionel's perspective of everything who, geez,

[00:05:41] I mean, this might be too early to get into this,

[00:05:43] but who is the MVP here? Like, oh, I mean, I'll tell you who I mean, this might be too early to get into this, but who is the MVP here?

[00:05:45] Like, oh, I mean, I'll tell you who I actually I'll answer that right now, honestly.

[00:05:50] Well, there's two answers, right? Like, I think to a certain extent, the MVP is Harry Belafonte,

[00:05:58] right? Like this wouldn't even be happening without it. Like he's, he's like the linchpin of this entire thing. But I think

[00:06:05] from a vocal track in all sincerity, he only gets one line, but they talk about how much

[00:06:11] he killed it. I think it's the part that sticks out the most to me is honestly Steve

[00:06:15] Perry from Journey nails that one line that he has to sing. It's like a hook. The way

[00:06:21] he sings that one line is perfect. If I had to give another person to it, honestly, Cindy Loper.

[00:06:27] The way Cindy Loper sings her singular line

[00:06:30] is incredible as well.

[00:06:31] Like, but it is, I mean, you're talking about

[00:06:33] some of the best singers in music,

[00:06:38] not even of the eighties in music history.

[00:06:41] Like this is, cause you've got like Ray Charles,

[00:06:44] where this is kind of past Ray Charles being a big,

[00:06:47] like he's always gonna be famous.

[00:06:49] He's Ray Charles, but Ray Charles wasn't having like

[00:06:50] radio hits in the 80s.

[00:06:52] Ray Charles, man, I have so many things to say.

[00:06:55] Ray Charles, when he's just playing the song

[00:06:57] in the piano, I like, I was like, this is awesome.

[00:07:00] Like that's where I was like, I just want this footage.

[00:07:02] I love all the footage.

[00:07:03] I think Ray Charles might have been the number one person

[00:07:04] in that thing that I wanted to hang out with. Every time the camera was on, I just want this footage. Also, I think Ray Terrell's might have been the number one person in that thing

[00:07:05] that I wanted to hang out with.

[00:07:06] Every time the camera was on him, he was cracking up.

[00:07:09] He was having the best time.

[00:07:13] I had this thought, so I watched all of Mr. and Mrs. Smith,

[00:07:17] the new Donald Glover show that he made for Amazon Prime.

[00:07:21] And it's pretty good, but there's a scene

[00:07:23] where he's getting drunk with a bunch of other people

[00:07:26] and they're having a conversation

[00:07:28] and they're like, they said something like,

[00:07:30] has there ever been a celebrity that got better with age

[00:07:33] and they landed on Dolly Parton?

[00:07:35] But I would throw Ray Charles in that conversation.

[00:07:39] Like I think Ray Charles in the late 80s, early 90s,

[00:07:42] when he's just like this jolly old man is the best version of Ray Charles in the late 80s, early 90s, when he's just like this jolly old man

[00:07:45] is the best version of Ray Charles.

[00:07:48] Yeah, I mean, dude, he is so much fun.

[00:07:50] I was laughing every time.

[00:07:52] Like I was like, he is so great.

[00:07:54] He is just laughing, and I wish everybody felt that way.

[00:07:57] Obviously some people didn't, which we'll get to,

[00:08:01] but hey, your MVPs, whatever, yeah.

[00:08:03] Steve Perry back to back with Darrell Hall

[00:08:06] like they just stepped up to the mic and crushed it. That was amazing of course of course I

[00:08:11] love Cindy Loper but when we're talking MVPs Lionel Richie he did a lot of organizing

[00:08:17] also Quincy Jones trying to

[00:08:21] Oh Quincy Jones is Quincy Jones literally heard it cats for an

[00:08:25] entire night and made a masterpiece out of it yes and I love the idea of him

[00:08:29] putting that sign that just says check your ego at the door because he'd know

[00:08:32] he's he's got 80 of the biggest names in music and Dan Aykroyd all in one

[00:08:37] route

[00:08:40] parts amazing standing next to Harry Balafonte I love that Dan Aykroyd is part of this for some reason.

[00:08:47] They never get into that too.

[00:08:50] The one lady's like, and I really wanted Dan Aykroyd.

[00:08:52] I'm like, why?

[00:08:53] Because he was a blues brother.

[00:08:54] Like, why?

[00:08:55] Why?

[00:08:56] Why?

[00:08:57] Why?

[00:08:58] He's so badly what Dan Aykroyd is saying.

[00:08:59] So awesome.

[00:09:00] I would also like to put his name at the contention for MVP, Michael Jackson. Because, I mean, just in general,

[00:09:07] but here's the things about Michael Jackson

[00:09:09] when I was watching this.

[00:09:09] First of all, how seriously he took every step of this.

[00:09:14] He wasn't in a bad mood or anything,

[00:09:16] but he was taking it very seriously

[00:09:18] where a lot of people, Al Giro,

[00:09:21] wasn't taking it so seriously.

[00:09:23] Yeah, I was gonna say,

[00:09:24] if you wanna know who's not the MVP of this song, Algerow.

[00:09:27] Algerow just getting drunk the whole time.

[00:09:30] But also Michael Jackson raining in.

[00:09:33] Now, granted, he's one of my all-time favorites.

[00:09:36] Oh, Stevie Wonder. Oh, Stevie Wonder needed rain in as well.

[00:09:40] Because first of all, not showing up to the songwriting sessions.

[00:09:44] And then finally showing up being like, why don't you guys tell me about these?

[00:09:47] We're like, well, we've been telling you about it for weeks, Stevie.

[00:09:50] But then also insisting that they sing in Swahili.

[00:09:55] And even after people are like, Stevie, you know that people in Ethiopia don't speak Swahili, right?

[00:10:01] He's like, well, we got to get something African in there.

[00:10:04] And Michael Jackson taking the reins and being like, let's just sing something. It sounds kind of African Stevie. And

[00:10:10] I mean, he saved it right there, even though bitch ass wailing Jennings decided to book it at

[00:10:16] that point. Where are you going to be like, dude, I'm going to say another another not MVP

[00:10:20] wailing Jennings. Also, look, love him to death Prince non MVP on this bed boy.

[00:10:25] Yeah, you got to show up. You got to show up if you're going to be an MVP.

[00:10:29] Yeah, he was only going to do it if he didn't have to be there with everybody else.

[00:10:32] I could just record a guitar solo later or something like the fuck out of here with that.

[00:10:36] I can't imagine how amazing it would be to be in that room. Of course,

[00:10:41] you saw the documentary Diana Ross was like

[00:10:48] choked up at life. Yeah, she didn't want it to end. She didn't want it to ever stop.

[00:10:59] Let me say a very hot take that I have. So I think in a in it's I think it's hard to separate this from do they know it's Christmas by Band-Aid. Like they are literally two sides of the same coin

[00:11:04] came out basically a year apart from each other.

[00:11:06] The existence of Band-Aid led to the writing of this,

[00:11:10] essentially that was how they came up.

[00:11:11] Bob Gell-Dolph, let's give Bob Gell-Dolph some.

[00:11:13] So yeah.

[00:11:14] Bob Gell-Dolph shows up here,

[00:11:16] steals the whole movie I think.

[00:11:17] I think his speech was perfect for setting the mood

[00:11:20] of getting them to drop their egos and be like,

[00:11:22] this is how bad it is out there.

[00:11:24] Like you guys don't know what it's like to have nothing,

[00:11:27] but I have seen with my own eyes how bad it is.

[00:11:31] And he seems really passionate about this stuff.

[00:11:33] I think, do they know it's Christmas

[00:11:35] is a better written song?

[00:11:37] Like, I think that the chorus and stuff is better.

[00:11:40] I think that this is a more impressive undertaking

[00:11:44] because they did the one thing that

[00:11:45] do they know it's Christmas failed to do and they talk about it a lot in this documentary

[00:11:49] is do they know it's Christmas is just like here's 80 people singing a song together.

[00:11:54] Them really sitting down and meticulously working out who sings what line and what voice is going

[00:11:59] to complement the other voice like the actual construction of We Are the World is better.

[00:12:06] Also, I just think do they know what Christmas has?

[00:12:09] I think that that big,

[00:12:13] especially towards the end of the feed,

[00:12:16] the world, let them know it's Christmas time,

[00:12:21] like it's just a much cooler overall melody.

[00:12:24] Like I saw that one of the negative reviews was that a lot of people felt like Oh, it's Christmas time. Like it's just a much cooler overall melody. Yes.

[00:12:25] Like I saw that one of the negative reviews

[00:12:26] was that a lot of people felt like

[00:12:28] we are the world sounded more like a Pepsi jingle

[00:12:31] than an actual pop song.

[00:12:33] And I can hear that.

[00:12:34] Like I can hear what their complaint is,

[00:12:36] is that it's just this repetitive chorus

[00:12:39] for the last like four minutes of the song.

[00:12:42] But it's that first half where you're hearing

[00:12:44] all of these artists

[00:12:46] just like bouncing off of each other

[00:12:48] or like the ad-libbing of Bob Dylan and Bruce Spring's

[00:12:51] scenes that like there's just so,

[00:12:53] there's so many more impressive moving pieces

[00:12:56] in what happens in We Are the World.

[00:12:58] Yeah, I would agree with you that the melody of the chorus

[00:13:02] of do they know it's Christmas is better?

[00:13:05] This is a little bit more hokey than that.

[00:13:08] Music-wise.

[00:13:10] But there's a lot of argument about the tone-deaf

[00:13:16] sort of lyrical content of, do they know it's Christmas?

[00:13:21] Who the hell cares if they know it's Christmas or not?

[00:13:26] Like that's not the issue, right?

[00:13:28] I wonder if there was a part of that

[00:13:32] that was well thought out of Bob thinking like

[00:13:35] if we make this a Christmas song,

[00:13:36] they'll play it every year and it will remind people

[00:13:38] every year that there is people that need help.

[00:13:41] Whereas like something like we are the world

[00:13:42] could be a more of a fleeting thing.

[00:13:44] I mean, I guess we should say it.

[00:13:46] If we're considering this a one-hit wonder,

[00:13:48] this is the best-selling one-hit wonder

[00:13:50] we've ever discussed.

[00:13:52] This is bigger than the Macarena.

[00:13:54] I think so.

[00:13:55] Well, so I looked at some of the stats here.

[00:13:57] So I didn't want us to just do a movie review.

[00:14:00] So I pulled this out.

[00:14:01] This is obviously from Wikipedia,

[00:14:02] but it said the single was a commercial success.

[00:14:04] The initial shipment of

[00:14:07] 800,000 we are the world records sold out in three days the record became the fastest-selling American pop single in history at the tower records in West Hollywood

[00:14:17] 1,000 copies were sold in two days and a store worker commented the number one singles in America usually only sell 100 to 125 copies a week.

[00:14:27] This is unheard of. By the end of 1985, it had become the best-selling single.

[00:14:31] Five years later, it was revealed to be the biggest single of the 80s, and We Are The World

[00:14:36] was eventually cited as the best-selling single in US and pop music history. The song became the

[00:14:41] first ever single to be certified as multi platinum and

[00:14:46] received four times the certification from the RIAA. The estimated global sales are said

[00:14:53] to be 20 billion copies sold. And of course, that's a lot. Also, also one song of the year

[00:14:59] and record of the year at the Grammys just every accolade that you could throw on something. But do you think that people were moved by the song itself, or do you think people were

[00:15:12] inspired to go buy it so that the dollars could go towards the cause?

[00:15:20] Was it that people love the song?

[00:15:22] I think it may be for the cause.

[00:15:24] Well, so I also looked at the album.

[00:15:26] I have not listened to the USA for America album.

[00:15:31] So USA for America, the actual album is this song.

[00:15:34] And then a bunch of the artists that appeared on the song

[00:15:38] recorded special songs for the album.

[00:15:40] So Bruce Springsteen has a song.

[00:15:42] The Pointer Sisters have a song.

[00:15:43] Stevie Wonder has a song. So there could have been that too where it's

[00:15:47] like, hey I think this song's all right but like I'm a die-hard Bruce Springsteen

[00:15:51] fan so I want to buy this album to get this Bruce Springsteen song that's not

[00:15:56] available anywhere else as well. Like it's kind of a smart way to make sure that

[00:15:59] the single and the album both have like different types of appeal to different

[00:16:04] types of people.

[00:16:05] Right.

[00:16:06] So something that I talk about the end of this movie

[00:16:09] that I need to bring up though,

[00:16:12] is can you imagine in 2023, or 2000, oh my God,

[00:16:18] we're in 2024 now.

[00:16:19] But in the time and age that we're at,

[00:16:22] the idea that this song debuted on every radio station

[00:16:26] at the exact same time across the world,

[00:16:29] like that would, A, that would never happen,

[00:16:33] B, I don't think people would even know

[00:16:34] it was happening anymore.

[00:16:37] Like it's insane to think about how powerful,

[00:16:41] it's a nice reminder of how powerful radio was

[00:16:45] at that time for getting something out there.

[00:16:48] Yeah, I mean, I also can't imagine being someone

[00:16:52] who didn't show up on that day.

[00:16:55] Like, I mean, I don't know why certain people,

[00:16:58] like why is it Phil Collins on this?

[00:17:00] I know that there were certain people they talked about

[00:17:02] on the documentary that were like on tour,

[00:17:04] so it couldn't be there.

[00:17:06] Prince, who I guess he doesn't care, whatever,

[00:17:09] that he wasn't on it, but I would be like,

[00:17:11] oh, damn it, I wish I was on that song.

[00:17:14] Recording it the night of an award show is a brilliant idea.

[00:17:17] That is such a smart idea.

[00:17:19] You're like, oh, all these people will be in the same place.

[00:17:22] This is like our one chance.

[00:17:24] It's like to make this happen.

[00:17:25] And I feel bad for Lionel Richie,

[00:17:27] who apparently was doing double duty,

[00:17:29] like somewhat hosting the awards show

[00:17:32] and then having to jump in a car

[00:17:34] and then help Quincy Jones control this all night recording.

[00:17:39] It's such-

[00:17:39] Well dude, that has to be the most amazing one night

[00:17:45] that anyone has ever had in the history of music. Think about this. That has to be the most amazing one night

[00:17:48] that anyone has ever had in the history of music. Think about this.

[00:17:49] Hosted, I mean, it's just the American Music Awards.

[00:17:52] It's not even, it's not that.

[00:17:53] Which had a category for Best Black Single,

[00:17:56] which I was like, Jesus Christ.

[00:17:58] Well, that was like that aside.

[00:18:01] Lionel Richie is hosting this event.

[00:18:03] I believe he won eight awards at this event

[00:18:06] Yeah, and then go straight from the event to an all night until like eight in the morning

[00:18:12] Recording session with all of the biggest artists in the world to record a song to benefit

[00:18:19] Starving people like that is it's hard to beat Lionel Richie's night and I gotta say to say, I already like Lionel Richie. I like his music a lot. You love him at the end of this. He's so likable.

[00:18:30] He's so likable. He's so awesome. And a lot of dude, how much as a guy who I would say,

[00:18:37] I'm somewhat lukewarm on the music of Bruce Springsteen. How much did you love that him at 7 a.m. stepping up to that mic and delivering

[00:18:46] such a soulful performance,

[00:18:49] like with probably no voice left, tired as hell.

[00:18:53] And just-

[00:18:54] He played a show the night before.

[00:18:55] Yeah.

[00:18:56] Remember they said that he had to jump on a plane

[00:18:58] from a show, fly to where the recording was,

[00:19:00] and then like drove there in like a beat up car or whatever.

[00:19:03] Yeah.

[00:19:04] How could you not love that guy?

[00:19:06] I mean, well, I mean, I was going to say I've been late to the party.

[00:19:09] I've really started getting the Bruce Spring scene in the last like two or three years.

[00:19:13] But I mean, I think people make jokes about it where it's like, oh, he's this, you know,

[00:19:17] guy who sold millions of records.

[00:19:19] How is he the every man?

[00:19:20] But you watch this and you're like, cause he is.

[00:19:22] He just is the every man.

[00:19:24] Like, like he's not a superstar.

[00:19:26] He doesn't seem like an egotistical superstar one bit.

[00:19:30] Like he's just chill as hell and like,

[00:19:33] down to work.

[00:19:34] It's just so cool.

[00:19:36] I dude, how about this?

[00:19:37] How about the fact that some of these people

[00:19:39] we haven't even mentioned their name yet

[00:19:41] as if they're after thoughts that are part of this?

[00:19:43] You ready for this?

[00:19:44] Oh yeah.

[00:19:45] Paul Simon.

[00:19:46] Paul Simon.

[00:19:46] Amazing.

[00:19:48] Kenny Rogers.

[00:19:49] Yep.

[00:19:50] Tina Turner.

[00:19:52] Billy Joel.

[00:19:53] I forgot Billy Joel was on this song.

[00:19:55] Yeah.

[00:19:56] I completely forgot he was on this.

[00:19:58] Dude, Dionne Warwick.

[00:19:59] Willie Nelson.

[00:20:01] How awesome was Kenny Loggins?

[00:20:03] You talked about the talking heads

[00:20:04] maybe being like something you didn't like about it. I loved seeing Kenny Loggins? You talked about the talking heads maybe being

[00:20:05] like something you didn't like about it. I love seeing Kenny Loggins just seemed like

[00:20:09] such a regular guy. And then when he stepped up to the mic to sing his part, same thing

[00:20:15] as like Steve Perry, where it was like, damn, that was 100% the Kenny Loggins voice that

[00:20:20] I know and love. And he stepped up to that mic and killed it on the

[00:20:25] first try. Let alone then Cindy Loper. It was so funny that her she kept hearing noises

[00:20:32] telling people talking. It was because she had so much jewelry on. That was awesome.

[00:20:37] Kim Carnes had an amazing performance on this song. I mean, it was just, it was crazy.

[00:20:43] Lindsey Buckingham was part of the, the course,

[00:20:46] I didn't, there's some people I didn't even realize. She was one of the talking heads on this. She

[00:20:51] was having her moment. She's maybe a little bit more lost to time. So many, Jackson.

[00:20:57] I felt bad for her. I felt bad for her in the sense that it really, I mean, I agree with her

[00:21:02] assessment that she was kind of,

[00:21:06] that they kind of dangled a carrot in front of her

[00:21:09] to hopefully convince Prince to show up.

[00:21:10] Like they really, they really wanted Prince on this.

[00:21:14] So I can understand why she kind of felt a little hurt

[00:21:18] by the end of that, cause she was like,

[00:21:19] when she says she goes, it was when Prince said no

[00:21:22] that it dawned on me that they were absolutely not

[00:21:24] gonna give me a verse in this song.

[00:21:26] Yeah, but come on, Sheila.

[00:21:27] Look at all the people that got got him.

[00:21:30] Yeah.

[00:21:31] You know, they didn't even give Smokey Robinson his own line.

[00:21:33] They didn't give Middler her own line.

[00:21:36] But you know, there's a lot of people that didn't get their own.

[00:21:39] Harry Belafonte didn't get his own line.

[00:21:41] I know Matt that you loved.

[00:21:43] I had actually already seen this, maybe on YouTube or something.

[00:21:46] Did you love the impromptu Deo performance?

[00:21:49] I did and I actually wrote down a note.

[00:21:51] This is so random.

[00:21:53] I wrote down the banana boat part of this,

[00:21:56] a part of this is very beautiful.

[00:21:58] And then like Harry Belafonte I think is a truly like,

[00:22:03] it's kind of a bummer that most people only know him as the guy

[00:22:06] who did some songs in Beetlejuice,

[00:22:07] because he's one of those dudes who,

[00:22:10] beyond being like an incredible performer

[00:22:12] and singer was such a humanitarian.

[00:22:15] Yeah.

[00:22:15] First and foremost, and you know I gotta talk

[00:22:18] about the Muppets, but he appeared

[00:22:20] on an episode of the Muppet Show,

[00:22:21] it's widely considered the best episode of the Muppet Show,

[00:22:23] and he performs a song that I think is his best song called

[00:22:26] Turn the World Around.

[00:22:27] That's like kind of in the same vein as we are the world.

[00:22:30] It's about like joining together.

[00:22:32] And like if we all work together,

[00:22:34] we can make this world a better place type song.

[00:22:37] It's I think the greatest performance a musician has ever

[00:22:40] done on the Muppet Show.

[00:22:41] And what's really cool in that is that there are Muppets

[00:22:44] in that that have never been used again

[00:22:46] that are all based on African instruments and tribes mess

[00:22:51] that Harry Belafonte worked hand in hand

[00:22:53] with Jim Henson to design and create

[00:22:56] to like make it feel more worldly.

[00:23:00] It's a really impressive performance.

[00:23:02] And it's a great song.

[00:23:03] And it was the song that I thought of when he passed away this year, or last year,

[00:23:07] I was like, I'm gonna listen to

[00:23:08] Turn the World Around a Whole Bunch right now,

[00:23:10] because that's gonna remind me

[00:23:12] like what a cool-ass dude Harry Belafonte has always been.

[00:23:15] So, since we're never gonna do a Harry Belafonte episode

[00:23:18] of What is Thunder?

[00:23:20] Check out Harry Belafonte's other stuff

[00:23:21] besides just jumping the line in Banana Boat song.

[00:23:24] He actually has some other really good songs that aren't on the Beetlejuice sound check.

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[00:26:18] You know, one other thing that I wanted to mention

[00:26:21] is a humble brag, not that humble,

[00:26:23] but three of the people, three of the people involved

[00:26:26] in this recording have been guests on the podcast

[00:26:30] I produced, Chris, to make some podcasts.

[00:26:32] We have had Huey Lewis, we have had John Oates,

[00:26:36] and of course we've had David Page of Toto

[00:26:39] who played The Synths on We Are The World.

[00:26:41] I forgot about the David Page one.

[00:26:43] I was like, when did he have Dan Aykroyd on?

[00:26:45] I wish.

[00:26:47] I mean, just the lineup on this is crazy.

[00:26:52] Now, we alluded to the, it was in a past episode.

[00:26:56] I believe it was in our episode where we were talking

[00:26:59] about Usher's Super Bowl performance,

[00:27:00] and we got into the talk of how organizations will spend millions of dollars

[00:27:06] for a commercial and whatever.

[00:27:10] You know, in this instance, Matt, I believe I saw in the documentary that the song Over

[00:27:16] the years has raised $80 million to help feed people in Africa.

[00:27:22] And yes, I guess that every person, not every person,

[00:27:27] there are a few people,

[00:27:29] maybe 10 people involved in this thing

[00:27:31] that probably could donate a million dollars

[00:27:34] and not, you know, it would be like pocket change to them

[00:27:37] maybe, but not everybody involved here could do that.

[00:27:41] And I think they volunteered their time,

[00:27:44] they didn't take money themselves from this.

[00:27:47] Everybody who did anything on this was doing it for free to raise money.

[00:27:51] So I think in this instance, it wasn't, you know, can't say anything bad on that end

[00:27:56] about this project.

[00:27:57] Well, I'll tell you one thing about this project though.

[00:28:02] I think that as we've learned in the last couple years,

[00:28:07] it was certainly a lightning in a bottle situation. And though many people have tried

[00:28:13] to put that lightning back in the bottle, including Lionel Richie and Quincy Jones,

[00:28:21] it doesn't work with other pop stars. Case in point, we have to talk about

[00:28:27] we are the world 25 for Haiti.

[00:28:29] Did you watch or listen to, do you remember when this came out?

[00:28:32] I distinctly remember when this came out.

[00:28:34] I do not remember when it came out, so tell me about it.

[00:28:37] So this was, hey, we're gonna do it again

[00:28:40] and we're gonna raise money for Haiti,

[00:28:42] but we're gonna use all the pop stars of today, we're going to use a lot of pop stars from today.

[00:28:47] So the lineup for that one was Justin Bieber, Jennifer Hudson, Josh Groban, Tony Bennett,

[00:28:54] Mary J. Blige, Tony Braxton, your girl Janet shows up in there.

[00:28:58] Barbara Streisand, Miley Cyrus, Enrique Anglesias, Jamie Foxx, Wyclef John, Adam Levine, Pink, Usher, Celine Dion, Fergie,

[00:29:08] the Jonas Brothers, T.I., Little Wayne, Acon, T. Payne, LL Cool J, Will I Am, Nipsey Hustle,

[00:29:17] Snoop Dogg, Buster Rhymes, and of course, it ends with a minute long speech from the

[00:29:23] one and only Kanye West.

[00:29:25] Wow.

[00:29:26] And also features just in the chorus but not singing leads.

[00:29:31] Busy bone.

[00:29:33] Elle DeBarge, Brandy, Jeff Bridges, Zach Brown, Harry Connick Jr., Faith Evans, Anthony Hamilton, Kid Cuddy, John Legend, Randy Jackson, Bobby McFerrin, the

[00:29:49] Rosita Jones, Gladys Knight, the Benji brothers from Good Charlotte, Jason Bresse.

[00:29:55] The Benji brothers.

[00:29:57] Nikki, Nikki Richie.

[00:29:59] I love, I only want to refer to them as the Benji brothers.

[00:30:07] Also, we're with Tracings.

[00:30:11] Yeah, Tracings, Robin Thicke, Vince Vaughn, and Nancy, Brian, and Ann Wilson.

[00:30:21] Okay.

[00:30:22] And it's pretty bad, actually.

[00:30:24] It's a bad cover of the song.

[00:30:26] So much so that one of the best SNL sketches

[00:30:29] that came out immediately after was

[00:30:32] Keenan Thompson playing Quincy Jones,

[00:30:35] announcing his new project,

[00:30:37] We Are the World Part Three

[00:30:39] for relief of the people who suffered through the disaster

[00:30:42] of We Are the World Part Two.

[00:30:43] What? Recently the music world came together. for relief of the people who suffered through the disaster of We Are the World part?

[00:30:45] Recently the music world came together to release We Are the World 2, a song to raise

[00:30:51] the wellness of the Haiti earthquake disaster. Sadly, the song itself was a disaster. While

[00:30:59] the original We Are the World brought together stars like Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, and Tina Turner.

[00:31:06] This new version was a sloppy mess of half-famous brandos, like Busybone and Nipsey Hussle.

[00:31:14] It was bad, but we will heal as we always do through song.

[00:31:21] That's why I will symbol another group of musicians for We Are The World 3.

[00:31:26] Raising awareness of the We Are The World 2 disaster.

[00:31:29] I mean, look, we can laugh all we want,

[00:31:32] but you did list a big list of suits and songs.

[00:31:35] It's a lot of names.

[00:31:37] Yeah, it just wasn't the same song.

[00:31:40] It just, it didn't work.

[00:31:42] The biggest problem was when the rap part came in because then you have

[00:31:45] it was all the auto tune rappers and that's I sent you literally like six months later a bunch

[00:31:53] of comedians Scott Ocherman got a bunch of comedians together to make their version of the 25 year

[00:32:00] anniversary version of We Are The World and one of my favorite bits in the song is Weird Al singing

[00:32:06] with autotune and it like glitching out as he hits

[00:32:09] like certain notes.

[00:32:11] But if I'll post it for sure on our Facebook page,

[00:32:13] but if you haven't seen We Are the World 25.75

[00:32:18] in honor of the 25.75 years since the first We Are the World,

[00:32:22] it is very, very funny.

[00:32:25] And it starts with Kurt Russell expressing multiple times,

[00:32:28] these are not singers,

[00:32:30] and this is going to be very bad.

[00:32:32] Why?

[00:32:33] Yeah, it was an all-star lineup of comedians on that,

[00:32:36] I will say, that was pretty bad.

[00:32:37] Yeah, I can't even find the list anymore,

[00:32:39] but I mean, any comedian, if you love,

[00:32:42] I mean, it was literally now it's comedy bang bang,

[00:32:44] at the time it was comedy death ray ray but it's just that whole crew. All the people

[00:32:48] who are associated with like that world show up there. It's just it's really

[00:32:55] funny and you can tell that they're having equal to watching the greatest

[00:32:59] night and pop. You can tell that those comedians are having an absolute blast

[00:33:02] recording their silly parts but yeah I mean I think that we are the world's a cool concept.

[00:33:07] It did a lot of good.

[00:33:09] I also just think that anytime anyone makes fun of the concept of these these songs,

[00:33:13] it's really entertaining.

[00:33:14] I sent you that old SNL one that they did about free range chickens with like Adam

[00:33:19] Sandler playing Axle Rose and David Spade's Tom Petty and stuff like, I just like using that format

[00:33:27] as an excuse for funny people to do funny things.

[00:33:30] Yeah, Matt, one you didn't said me that I see listed

[00:33:32] that I haven't seen obviously was apparently

[00:33:36] the controversial anti-LGBT church,

[00:33:39] Westboro Baptist church.

[00:33:41] Oh no.

[00:33:42] No.

[00:33:43] Which it says this in the Wikipedia.

[00:33:45] I don't know why it says this after this.

[00:33:47] Known for their musical parodies,

[00:33:50] is that a thing?

[00:33:51] Oh God.

[00:33:52] The Westboro Baptist Church is known

[00:33:53] for their musical parodies.

[00:33:55] They produced a parody of We Are The World titled,

[00:33:57] God Hates The World.

[00:33:59] Which, what?

[00:34:01] What a move for religious organization.

[00:34:04] Yeah, yeah.

[00:34:05] I don't know.

[00:34:06] Oh, I forgot about this.

[00:34:08] The season finale of the third season of 30 Rock had kidney now, where musicians like Clay

[00:34:13] Aiken, Elvis Costello, Mary J. Blige, The Beastie Boys, Show Crow, and Adam Levine, and so

[00:34:19] on all helped to produce a single so that Jack Donnicky could get a kidney for his long-lost father. Right. It is, I mean it's a great, it's a great format to like,

[00:34:30] if you're just trying to do a comedy thing and get a bunch of celebrities

[00:34:34] together, you can't do where, you can't do much better than a big old We Are the

[00:34:39] World. Yeah, it's definitely been one of the most, it's one of the biggest tropes.

[00:34:43] It's gonna happen at some point

[00:34:45] if you have some sort of silly,

[00:34:47] like, you know, irreverent type comedy show.

[00:34:49] At some point, this is gonna be part of it.

[00:34:52] And-

[00:34:53] And I'll always at least smile.

[00:34:55] I'll be like, oh, that's pretty funny.

[00:34:57] I wanna bring up one thing

[00:34:59] because you mentioned I can't believe

[00:35:01] Phil Collins isn't here.

[00:35:02] So the single, so here's a couple of quick facts.

[00:35:07] So the single debuted at 21 on the Hot 100.

[00:35:12] And then the next week it hit number five.

[00:35:14] And it became the first single since the Beatles

[00:35:16] let it be to enter into the top five

[00:35:19] within two weeks of its release.

[00:35:22] Now I feel like that's like old hat.

[00:35:23] Like that just like happens all the time now.

[00:35:25] Then it went to number two,

[00:35:27] and then on its fourth week it hit number one,

[00:35:30] the thing that kept it from number one though,

[00:35:33] was Phil Collins one more night.

[00:35:36] And man, I wish it was a better Phil Collins song.

[00:35:39] Cause that song sucks.

[00:35:40] Wow.

[00:35:42] How dare one more night be the song

[00:35:44] that keeps we are the world from the top spot. Wow. How dare one more night be the song that keeps

[00:35:45] We Are The World from the Top Spot.

[00:35:47] Wow.

[00:35:48] One more night.

[00:35:49] I don't know.

[00:35:50] I mean, I'm not a hater as much as you are on One More Night, but look, I would say

[00:35:57] this is a better song.

[00:35:58] But I also think because Michael Jackson wrote this, I think He'll The World is a better

[00:36:02] song than We Are The World from Michael Jackson wrote this. I think he'll the world is a better song than we are the world from Michael Jackson. That's the most important thing as we close out this episode to think about

[00:36:11] everything about this is amazing. Go watch that documentary if you haven't watched it. You will

[00:36:16] love it. It's one of my instantly one of my favorite music documentaries. I loved everything

[00:36:21] about it. And I love everything about the cause, the whole idea of the thing.

[00:36:26] But a big question is, is this song good?

[00:36:30] Is it a good song?

[00:36:32] I don't think it is.

[00:36:33] I really don't.

[00:36:35] Like, we are the world.

[00:36:37] It's like pretty annoying.

[00:36:41] I actually think some of the verses are better.

[00:36:44] I think the bridge is the verses are better.

[00:36:45] I think the bridge is really good, actually.

[00:36:47] Yeah.

[00:36:48] Like the part that is like the Huey Lewis,

[00:36:50] Cindy Loper, Kim Carnez part,

[00:36:52] like I like that part where it's like,

[00:36:55] when will we realize that a change will only come?

[00:37:00] When we, and then the three part harmony,

[00:37:03] stand together as one.

[00:37:05] Like, there's good parts,

[00:37:08] but I think as a whole it's not that good of a song.

[00:37:11] Yeah, and it seems like it was kind of written pretty quickly.

[00:37:15] I do think it's interesting, obviously,

[00:37:17] I knew this from several Michael Jackson documentaries,

[00:37:21] the way that he goes about writing songs

[00:37:23] where he just records his voice

[00:37:26] playing one thing, then his voice playing another thing, which really makes me want to try writing a song like that.

[00:37:32] You know, I mean, I guess I have the luxury of having instruments around me and the ability to

[00:37:37] record those instruments, so that's probably the easier way, but I think it'd be fun to just be like

[00:37:43] try to do it all vocal style and see what comes out. I never really tried that. But I think that's pretty interesting.

[00:37:51] But it seems like they kind of just it was a first instinct sort of thing. It was kind

[00:37:57] of rushed as far as the writing of it. And yeah, song wise, not the greatest, but now

[00:38:04] everything else about is pretty great.

[00:38:06] Now, and it's funny because this is like, we talk about those songs that have like

[00:38:11] stood the test of time and it has like people still are aware of what we are.

[00:38:15] The world is, but this is probably the biggest song that stood the test of time,

[00:38:19] but I will never hear it in the wild ever again.

[00:38:21] Never.

[00:38:22] You never, you're never in a grocery store

[00:38:25] and here we are the world.

[00:38:26] For this being as big as it was, award winning,

[00:38:30] world changing song, you never hear this song

[00:38:35] unless you put it on.

[00:38:36] Never.

[00:38:37] Which again, points to do, they know it's Christmas.

[00:38:39] You hear that every December.

[00:38:41] That's a pretty good point.

[00:38:43] That's a pretty good point. It's

[00:38:45] not a contest. We're just trying to save the world here. No, but I'm just saying and yeah, Bob

[00:38:50] rules. Yeah, let's get that out there real quick. He's a past. If you haven't heard it,

[00:38:55] member of the boomtown rats. So go check out that episode from the past. If you want to learn

[00:38:59] about more Bob gailed off. But okay, Matt, how do we feel? We are the world Thunder or Blunder.

[00:39:07] I'm going to do a weird split down the middle. I actually think that this song,

[00:39:11] the song I think is a Blunder at the end of the day. I think the song is not that good.

[00:39:15] I think the cause, I think the intentions, and more importantly, I think the documentary

[00:39:21] Greatest Night in Pop, however, is pure Thunder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[00:39:27] One thing before I say my thunder of thunder,

[00:39:29] how bad did you feel for poor little Bob Dylan?

[00:39:32] Oh man, he was so out of his element.

[00:39:35] Oh man.

[00:39:36] But they were absolutely right.

[00:39:37] Like he's the right person for something like this

[00:39:39] because that's what he's known for.

[00:39:42] Like he's known as the guy who writes the political songs

[00:39:45] and stands up for causes.

[00:39:47] And I think he, they said it.

[00:39:49] They're like, when you're standing next to Stevie Wonder

[00:39:51] and Michael Jackson and all these dudes who are known

[00:39:54] for how incredible their singing voice is.

[00:39:56] And you're just known as a lyrics man.

[00:39:58] Yeah.

[00:39:59] We love the world.

[00:40:01] Yeah, dude, when he's, when you can tell

[00:40:03] that he's not even attempting to sing in the chorus because he's like my voice will stay it like you can tell he's

[00:40:08] like, I'm not going to be in key and my voice is going to stand out. So he's just kind of

[00:40:12] like awkwardly moving his lips like he's singing for like the way you were doing your

[00:40:17] school choir before. Yeah. That would be a meme forever that shot of him. And I do got

[00:40:24] to say you got to give Stevie credit.

[00:40:26] Stevie worked with him when he was obviously feeling

[00:40:29] really bad about the whole thing.

[00:40:31] Stevie worked with him and I love after he delivered

[00:40:35] his part, everyone clapped and he had like a genuine smile.

[00:40:39] He was really happy.

[00:40:40] And that really made me like everybody, everybody.

[00:40:44] I was gonna say it seemed like, and I've never really been in a recording situation. happy, that really made me like everybody, everybody.

[00:40:45] I was gonna say, it seemed like,

[00:40:47] and I've never really been in a recording situation, right?

[00:40:50] But it seems like how you want every recording session to go,

[00:40:54] which is like, even when someone fucks up,

[00:40:56] you're like, all there is one cheering each other on

[00:41:00] to like, we're all in this together,

[00:41:02] we're gonna get this done, don't worry.

[00:41:04] It's felt like a very, with a few exceptions,

[00:41:07] a very supportive group of people

[00:41:10] who were not so much being competitive

[00:41:14] about trying to be the best one on the track,

[00:41:15] but just trying to make sure that everybody

[00:41:17] was at their best on the track.

[00:41:19] Which is nice to say, look,

[00:41:21] Matt Kelly loves a wholesome moment,

[00:41:23] and boy was this filled with plenty of those.

[00:41:25] Yeah. So yeah, I think Stevie

[00:41:27] wanted to redeem himself from really getting everybody off track earlier,

[00:41:31] making Wayland Jennings walk off, which by the way, I looked it up bad.

[00:41:34] Wayland Jennings did end up coming back eventually.

[00:41:37] Yeah. So I mean, I think I can understand a guy being like, I don't,

[00:41:42] me and my Southern voice singing Swahili

[00:41:45] is just gonna be embarrassing.

[00:41:46] Also, also if I'm gonna take back saying

[00:41:50] that he was being a little bitch about the whole thing,

[00:41:53] I'll take it back.

[00:41:54] I'll walk it back a little bit because regardless

[00:41:56] of Stevie holding things up with his ideas,

[00:41:59] it was like a herding cat situation.

[00:42:01] I could imagine that it's three in the morning

[00:42:04] and you wanna get this thing done and it's just like chaos all over the place. I do feel like you could hit a

[00:42:10] point like, man, I'm out of here. You know, so.

[00:42:12] Well, that's like, you know, when you're in college and you're doing a group project

[00:42:16] and it's like two in the morning and someone's like, Hey, let me show you this funny video.

[00:42:20] My friends sent me, you're just like, shut the fuck up. I know where distractions we gotta get this project done.

[00:42:27] So I could go the fuck to sleep.

[00:42:29] Like they said that they left the studio

[00:42:30] at eight in the morning,

[00:42:32] and in the beginning they said they arrived at 10 p.m.

[00:42:35] That is 10 straight hours in the studio nonstop

[00:42:40] with no breaks, like that's exhausting.

[00:42:42] And that's why I give Bruce Springsteen so much credit.

[00:42:44] He was the last one to record, and dude, the voice is a fickle instrument like rest and

[00:42:51] you know over exertion and all that stuff.

[00:42:53] It's necessary to pull it off and his performance was perfect.

[00:42:58] Man, dude, I look, I might not be listening.

[00:43:02] I might actually listen to the song today, to be honest.

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