Episode 397 - Tribeca Festival 2024 Ends, "Paddington In Peru," "The Instigators" & "The Wild Robot" Trailers

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[00:02:44] And my eyes see Oppenheimer. Hello everyone and welcome to episode 397 of the Next Best Picture Podcast. I'm your host, Matt Negley of the owner, editor in chief of nextbestpicture.com. The time of recording is 10 12am on June 16th, 2024. Happy Father's Day to all who are listening right now.

[00:03:06] We're going to be discussing the end of the Tribeca Festival. We're also going to be going over the polls, discussing what everyone watched this past week, answering fan questions and three trailers, one for Paddington in Peru, the other for

[00:03:18] the instigators and a new trailer for the wild robot. Let's get started. Let's kick us off with what everyone saw this past week, starting with Lauren La Magna. Um, hello. Yeah, this has been a really fun, interesting and exciting week.

[00:03:35] So first off, I watched the 20,000 Species of Bees, which was one of Spain's films that were shortlisted last year for their Academy Awards for International Film. And I absolutely loved this one. I think it's a really great, um, intergenerational character study piece with a really lovely,

[00:03:56] um, young trans, um, self-identity exploration at the center of it. I absolutely loved it. I think it's a great pride watch and it's just a great film overall. It's a debut, which is just awesome. And the three actresses at its center are great.

[00:04:12] So if you can see it, um, you guys should check it out. I think it's one of the best of the year thus far. Um, for Tribeca, I saw Nuked, which was pretty funny, actually.

[00:04:24] It's about a group of friends who get high and then as soon as they get high, they find out that a missile is coming to their very state and they just have to, you know, ride with it.

[00:04:35] Um, so that was really funny to see them all react to that. And then I also saw Brad's, the Hulu documentary about the Brad Pack, which was good. It was interesting to have, you know, these actors talk about what this meant to them

[00:04:50] as they were, you know, thrust into this big category at their young lives. So that was interesting to hear their perspective, but overall it was just a basic documentary. So if you were alive during that time and love those films, I could see you enjoying

[00:05:05] this film a lot just to understand what was going on with these young actors during the time. But otherwise it's just, you know, a basic Hollywood retail documentary. And I also did see Inside Out 2, which I really liked.

[00:05:19] Um, I don't know if it's a quote unquote, pure remake. It's definitely a natural progression for me, but it did seem to be more of a story for like a theme park, if that makes sense. Like it was very short, simple to the point.

[00:05:33] It may be catering more towards, um, adults and teenagers instead of children, but I overall really liked it and it moved me and I loved the meaning of it. So that was my week thus far. Pretty busy. Very nice. Very nice.

[00:05:47] Also joining me this week, I have Giovanni Lago. Giovanni, what did you see this past week? I've been busy with Tribeca as well. I will say one film that I saw at Tribeca that I really enjoyed was Sacramento, the Michael R. Garano comedy, his sophomore film.

[00:06:03] And it's practically a road trip duo with him and Michael Cera. It follows, you know, familiar tropes with this whole road trip comedy and the coming of age and exploration of yourself as an adult. But it's very funny. I think the humor is very profound.

[00:06:18] I think when, as it goes on, it gets way better, especially what it builds up to towards the end, which I was watching a theater and I was kind of a bit baffling in terms of like, wow, this is, this is happening. Okay.

[00:06:32] I thought I was having a stroke for a second, but it was very delightful. I laughed a lot. I think it's very entertaining. And one of the best things I saw that premiered at Tribeca, some other films I saw included

[00:06:43] Lake George, Jeffrey Reiner's newest film stars Shea Wiggum and Carrie Coon. It's a little dark comedy, neo-noir blending, pretty much what you would expect. It follows again, kind of like Sacramento, same tropes of its genre, although far less memorable.

[00:07:01] I will say though, Carrie Coon and Shea Wiggum together are just a perfect duo and they make it worth watching even if it goes longer than it should. I also saw Kneecap, which fantastic. I think that's the best thing I saw at Tribeca.

[00:07:18] I was hyping it up a lot to me and then for some reason I thought it was a documentary. So I'm sitting here and I'm like, wow, these actors are like really good. And then you find out it's the actual group playing themselves.

[00:07:31] And if I didn't know, like I did, I would have never known. They are fantastic. And you have Michael Fassbender in there playing a fun, albeit intimidating and brooding supporting role and the editing style is very fluid. There's just an energy that really absorbs you.

[00:07:47] I thought it was my favorite thing I've seen at Tribeca. And for some of the other reviews, which may or may not be as favorable, you can head to our site. I've been pretty busy.

[00:07:58] I know all of us here have been grinding out Tribeca, especially as it comes to an end. I will also say I've been on my Paul Schrader grind, especially because of his collection being on Criterion. I'm just catching up on blind spots.

[00:08:10] So I saw the comfort of strangers, which I think looks gorgeous. And I think Christopher Walken has an amazing monologue. But besides that, I thought it was incredibly vapid and one of the more stale and forgettable

[00:08:24] injuries in his filmography compared to something like Patty Hearst, which I also just watched for the first time and shockingly never knew anything about this in real life, which is ironic because I know plenty about the Hearst family in terms of them being newspaper incompetents

[00:08:39] and everything relating to Mank and even certain people now that I follow who are now related to the Hearst family. And this is just this weird subsection of that family history that I completely missed, which is a glaring hole.

[00:08:54] I think the visual style of it is striking and the way Paul Schrader is interrogating the subject while also questioning and sympathizing for her. And I think as a whole, maybe one of the more memorable entries in his filmography, I think

[00:09:10] one especially that has aged a lot better, especially due to a lot of the biopics we get now that feel pretty conventional. And then I also saw the bike riders, which I really dug.

[00:09:23] I think I came out of that movie and my immediate reaction was my dad would like it, which is always a glowing sign of approval for me. I think everyone's really caught in it. I think the voices are funny and they're really good, maybe a bit more conventional

[00:09:36] in terms of Jeff Nichols' filmography and what he does as a filmmaker. I get the Scorsese-isms people bring up. It's very apparent. I think that first hour of that movie is perfect and it never reaches that high as it goes on.

[00:09:51] But I thought it was a very interesting study of the cross examination of purpose and just rebellion and just how it varies through generations. And Austin Butler, just movie star. That's all I got to say. What a movie star.

[00:10:06] Yeah, I'm very, very excited to revisit the bike riders. I haven't seen it since its world premiere at Telluride. So I don't think it's been re-edited or anything like that. But I'm just curious to see how it holds up on a second viewing from me, which I'll be

[00:10:19] doing sometime this week in anticipation for our podcast review of it. Let's continue on now to Tom O'Brien. Tom O'Brien, welcome at 7am here on the show. What have you been watching this past week?

[00:10:35] I'm out on the West Coast, but I got two cups of coffee, so we're good. Like Laura and I also saw Inside Out 2 and was a part of yesterday's podcast, which we had a wide range of opinions and a very lively discussion.

[00:10:49] So there's spoilers in it so that you may want to wait until after you see the film, but it's a really good podcast. So check it out. I also saw Viggo Mortensen's The Dead Don't Hurt, which I believe premiered at Toronto last year.

[00:11:05] And it's a Western and it's really his baby because he stars in it. He produced it. He directed it. He wrote it and he composed the score to it. So it's all Viggo all the time, at least on paper.

[00:11:19] But when you see it, it's someone else takes over completely. It's a pretty familiar kind of Western. It's got good guys, bad guys, lots of shootouts. But it's really a character study of a French-Canadian immigrant who comes to the West to forge her own path.

[00:11:35] She starts a relationship with another immigrant, a Danish fighter named Mortensen plays. But a woman's got to do what a woman's got to do. And she rattles the town bosses, one of whom is played by Danny Houston, who's hilarious and knocks a few heads around.

[00:11:53] She's played by the magnificent Vicki Kreeps. And that alone is reason enough to go. And she's pretty terrific in it. You know, I'm not talking awards potential because it's a Western.

[00:12:07] But I think that years from now or maybe even sooner than years from now when we begin to have Vicki Kreeps retrospectives, I think this will be a major part of it. It's really good. So the dead don't hurt.

[00:12:20] I also saw a film called The Imaginary, which is a new anime, which is the third movie, I guess, in as many months about imaginary friends. And to my mind, this is the first one really to get it right.

[00:12:33] It's the second feature film from brand new Japanese animation house called Studio Ponic, which is founded and staffed by alumni of Studio Ghibli. And you can see the parents influence throughout The Imaginary.

[00:12:50] I think why this film works and where I thought that imaginary and if from earlier this year we year didn't was because they flip the protagonist. I mean, in those other two films, the protagonist was the child or the mother or someone who

[00:13:07] lives outside of the world of imaginary friends. But this anime is smart enough to make the make the protagonist one of the friends. And he really embodies all of the fears that kids sometimes have of being left behind.

[00:13:23] It's the greatest fear of imaginary friend that their child will forget them. And if they forget them, they will disappear. And when our hero, this imaginary friend is separated from his child and she doesn't remember

[00:13:39] him and he begins to disappear, panic sets in and he begins a quest to try and get himself home. And it's a classic story in that sense. The world building is very good. It makes sense, unlike the other two films, I think.

[00:13:56] And even if the story doesn't go quite as far as I'd like it to go, it's kind of Studio Ghibli light at times. It's still an enormously promising start for this studio, Panak. I really was impressed with only two films. They're in very good shape.

[00:14:14] And I would highly recommend if you take a look at The Imaginary, which will premiere on Netflix on July 5th. All right. So because I am currently at my parents' place for Father's Day, I do need to speed through this.

[00:14:30] So I do apologize to anyone who is used to Next Best Picture podcast running long. So very quickly, Inside Out 2 saw it. There's a podcast review. You can listen to our full thoughts there. Like Tom said, I too also saw The Imaginary. Good. Not great. You know.

[00:14:49] Fine, perfectly fine. I wasn't expecting to be blown away by it. It definitely, I agree with Tom, it feels Studio Ghibli light in some areas, but perfectly acceptable. A good watch. Would recommend. And then I got two Tribeca titles I want to shout out here.

[00:15:06] One is called The Wasp, which stars Naomi Harris and Natalie Dormer. This one is about two adult women who were friends, air quotes, in school. And Naomi Harris has a problem with her husband and she wants Natalie to take care of it.

[00:15:29] Because she thinks that she is capable of taking care of her husband. I'm leaving this very vague because this movie goes in very unexpected directions. It's incredibly layered. Great work from Naomi Harris, especially. It is adapted from a play and you can feel that when you watch it.

[00:15:50] But I really liked how the story started off as one thing, became another, then became another and then it just kept on evolving and growing into something really, really dark. That by the end of it, I was pretty thoroughly entertained even if I thought at times that

[00:16:05] the adaptation from stage to screen maybe wasn't so clean in a cinematic sense. And then the other film that I saw was called The Knife, which was one of the better films that I saw at Tribeca this year.

[00:16:21] It is directed and starring Namandi Azomagua, who you guys may have seen him in The Good Nurse or Sylvie's Love. Former football player turned actor. Like just a great presence too. I mean, really, really phenomenal.

[00:16:38] And here he really shows his directing chops by this tense, taut, dramatic thriller of a break-in that occurs in a black family's home in the suburbs one night and the woman ends up getting killed. We don't necessarily know how.

[00:16:54] We just know that the husband somehow was involved in it. And the police arrive and the detective is played by Melissa Leo, who turns in one of her best performances in this movie. She straddles a fine line between being sympathetic, but also extremely menacing too at the same

[00:17:13] time. And you don't exactly know if she is genuine in wanting to help this family. But I think what becomes increasingly clear as you watch is that she's interested in one thing and one thing only, and that is getting to the truth of what actually happened.

[00:17:28] Of course, this being a black family and dealing with the police, they are naturally hesitant and scared. And so choices are made and there are consequences to these choices. And I just thought this was a riveting film. I also really highly recommend this one from Tribeca.

[00:18:07] Your savings are waiting. Go to your happy place for a happy price. Go to your happy price, price line. Just in general this year, I've been really impressed with the Tribeca lineup. I kind of can't believe like how good the programming was this year compared to other

[00:18:26] years that I've had before. I even rewatched a film that I saw at Toronto most recently for an interview that we have coming to the podcast soon for Kill, which my God, what a film to program.

[00:18:39] Let me tell you, one of the most violent, crazy action films in recent times. Another one that I also highly recommend when it releases, I believe July 5th from Roadside Attractions here stateside. So good stuff on the Tribeca front all around.

[00:18:54] They even announced the award winners over a couple days ago. And I believe if I remember correctly, the big winner there was Griffin in Summer. Lauren, you didn't see this one, right? No, I didn't. Okay. I think Sarah Clements on our team did.

[00:19:10] I unfortunately did not get a chance to see this one, but judging by its cast, I'm really interested in it and I hope I get a chance to check it out at some point. But it won the Best Narrative Feature prize here.

[00:19:21] And they had a couple of awards that are given out. This is like really just an opportunity sometimes to like kind of comb through and see maybe there's a buzzy title that you missed or just something to kind of like get some level of recognition.

[00:19:35] But like Giovanni, when you step away from Tribeca now, you know, when all is said and done, how did you feel about it? I mean, I know this was your first one. A lot of mixed films that I saw personally.

[00:19:47] I didn't have, you know, the good outweigh the very little bad. I'll leave it at that. There was very few I left and I was like, that was just not great. And then like Swimming Home, which, you know, has both Mackenzie Davis and Christopher Abbott.

[00:20:05] And I'm like, yes, this is gonna be great. And it looks gorgeous. And I watch it and I was just thought it was so insufferable compared to, you know, Sacramento. I mentioned the Dog Thief. I really enjoyed. I thought it was a splendid looking film.

[00:20:19] I overall enjoyed myself. Like even the films that I found that I were mixed on, they were watchable. Like they were entertaining to agree. The Shallow Tale. I can't say the rest of the title because it's the longest title ever for a movie.

[00:20:34] That was one of the more baffling watches I had, especially because I really dug a lot of it. And then you get to the ending of that movie and that is the most make or break ending for a film I think I've seen in recent memory.

[00:20:47] But like Steve Buscemi's great and John Magara and Brit Lauer, who if you watch Severance, she's finally getting to do more stuff, which is great. Love Brit Lauer. But yeah, no, I genuinely had a good time.

[00:20:59] I would hopefully that by next time I get more heaters, but also maybe that's just because what I went to go see didn't plan out for how I thought it would be compared to, you

[00:21:10] know, it's always about what you're interested in and what you like search for and just hitting the jackpot. And it sounds like this year there was a lot of good stuff that played like you're mentioning.

[00:21:19] You know, I know Tribeca gets a rep of usually not being the greatest, but like on paper, like the lineup was great this year. And it sounds like there was great stuff that played as a whole. There really was.

[00:21:30] And they also like really wisely chose films from previous festivals to bring back. You mentioned kneecap earlier. I thought that was a really smart film to bring in to this festival. I mentioned kill before.

[00:21:40] I mean, all around like this was the most I've enjoyed myself at Tribeca in quite some time and I'm hoping that they can keep up this momentum into the future because in recent

[00:21:50] years, it definitely feels like the festival has just lost a bit of its luster and doesn't have the same reputation that it used to have back especially when it first started. So I even yesterday attended a retrospective screening for the Sugarland Express. Steven Spielberg was there in attendance.

[00:22:08] It was the 50th anniversary. Not only that, but also the 50th anniversary of his collaboration with John Williams. He sat down he did a q&a after the movie and I was thinking to myself man this is wonderful.

[00:22:18] You bring in a heavyweight like Spielberg for a retrospective screening like this. The restoration looked immaculate. I could not believe for a 50 year old movie that this movie looked as good as it did and you know what still a damn good movie.

[00:22:32] I really enjoyed myself with that one. I know dual is usually like sometimes cited as the first quote unquote Steven Spielberg feature film, but technically it was a TV movie. So it was cool to look back on what is officially his first feature film and see him reflect

[00:22:48] on that and you know, I got this experience through Tribeca. So that was really really nice and there were many other instances like this throughout. We're gonna have more reviews posted through the site over the next week for other films that premiered later in the festival.

[00:23:03] So be on the lookout for that. And I also want to acknowledge that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced their honorary inductees for this year. Tom O'Brien, would you mind taking the honors in announcing who those people are? All right.

[00:23:22] The Academy honors this year is an interestingly diverse group. Really first among equals is a fabulous composer producer Quincy Jones. I mean he has he has done so many things in film and it will be great to see him finally holding that Oscar.

[00:23:41] It's going to be a terrific moment. Richard Curtis, the British film director will be defeated with a Gene Herschel Humanitarian Award which is really a fine and very deserved honor. His work for years has been really stellar and on and off the screen, his work in the screen.

[00:24:06] And Julia Taylor, who's a casting director in New York and she is really one. If there was a casting Oscar years ago, she would probably be one of the first ones to win it because she's been so key in so many masterpieces.

[00:24:24] She's just a remarkable individual who's made movies better by her astute eye. And then the sibling bonds movies producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli will be tapped to receive the Thalberg Award.

[00:24:42] So it's going to be quite a star studded evening, I'm sure, because these folks have a lot of movie star contacts and it's quite quite a great lineup. And I'm really kind of looking forward to seeing how the evening turns out when they do it.

[00:24:58] I know every year there's always anticipation over who should get an honorary Academy Award and we always have our own list of names. Another year has gone by, you know, how do you go? How do you all feel about these names?

[00:25:09] Because you know, there are some other people who are up there in age where, you know, you start wondering, God, like, are they ever going to get a chance to honor this person?

[00:25:19] And, you know, it does always have like a bit of bitter sweetness to it, but also at the same time, you know, it's lovely for these individuals. So how do you all feel? I personally am very happy Quincy Jones is winning.

[00:25:32] I think his influence, not even in just scores that he's done for film, but just music in general, whether it's jazz or even in hip hop, spanned decades. I mean, this is the guy who helped discover Oprah, Will Smith, his impact in this whole industry is ridiculous.

[00:25:52] And I wish he won before. I mean, I'm pretty sure he's only been nominated once if I'm mistaken. So him finally getting his due, especially his age. I mean, come on, it's the guy who produced thriller. Like what more else do I need to say? I'm happy.

[00:26:10] I'm very curious. I think the best part of these awards is seeing who they personally pick to be the ones to present the awards. I think that's what interests me more. So I'm very excited to see who they pick for Quincy.

[00:26:23] I know Josh Parham, very happy about the Bond producers getting it. So I'll just publicly acknowledge that on his behalf. You may not ever win an Oscar for best picture for making a Bond film, but I mean, and they also have other producing credits besides James Bond too.

[00:26:39] I mean, they've done a lot of social justice activist films and many others over the years too. So I mean, credit to that producing team. And yeah, I mean, like I said, it's one of those things where do we all have our list

[00:26:53] that we would like to see get acknowledged? Sure, absolutely. But also at the same time, very, very happy for these individuals regardless. Okay, and now why don't we go to our first trailer here, starting off first with The

[00:27:11] Wild Robot, a movie that is I think firmly in most of our early predictions for best animated feature, maybe even in the win position for some folks. Maybe that changed with the release of this latest trailer here.

[00:27:25] We haven't had a chance to talk about this movie on the podcast yet. So I'm really, really excited to dive into it a little bit more with you all here. Let's take a look at the trailer for this one. Incident report.

[00:27:36] At 0300 hours, a number of Universal Dynamics robots were lost in a typhoon. Chance of recovery is unlikely. This looks fantastic. Yeah, I will admit I liked the teaser a little bit more back when there was less dialogue, but I like the story.

[00:28:00] I like what I'm seeing animation wise, and I'm still pretty on board for this being a major contender for Oscar consideration this year. Although like I said, I liked it a little bit more when it almost came across in the

[00:28:15] teaser as kind of like the first half of Wall-E where it was this robot in nature and there was like no dialogue. I know Lupita Nyong'o is voicing the robot, but you know, I thought maybe they'll keep that to a minimum.

[00:28:29] This trailer really showcases there's going to be a lot of furry supporting characters. Yeah, I'm with you on that, Matt. I thought that the teaser was really heavy on striking images and I thought that if they

[00:28:46] could keep it to minimal dialogue, it would be a fascinating exploration of this story. As soon as the animals started to talk, it was like, oh no. I mean, it's fine.

[00:28:58] And I think the trailer gives away a lot of the arc of the story, maybe a little too much for my taste. I still have it very high because those images are still there and it's a fresh look at the story.

[00:29:16] But I was a little bit let down with the trailer. It seems to be a little more conventional film than I thought it was going to be. I had no idea what this movie was until I watched this trailer.

[00:29:28] I'm gonna be honest, I didn't even see the teaser. It's cute. The animation is great. I will say the animation looks stunning and I think that's the highlight. But then I was just left with two thoughts immediately after finishing the trailer, which was one, I love Lupita Nyong'o.

[00:29:45] What's going on? Like, I mean, is this in like a quiet place? I'm sure I'm happy she's getting that back. What is your apprehension towards A Quiet Place Day One? That's going to be an awesome movie.

[00:29:57] Okay, I just I don't I just it doesn't need to be made. I'm sorry. We got the explanation that the aliens came in the second one. Why? Why did the aliens come? Why did they come to a different region? I don't need that.

[00:30:10] Like, they just came to Earth. Like that's good enough for me. Well, maybe when you watch the movie, you'll have a change of heart. Maybe we'll see. I'm always open to changing my mind. And like the wild robot, I think looks gorgeous.

[00:30:22] I just think that trailer Tom mentioned does show a lot. And I'm getting that whole idea of the whole movies about purpose and finding yourself in your reason why you deserve to be you and to exist.

[00:30:34] And I feel like these are just familiar themes that are just getting retreaded. And a lot of animated films. I know you only could do so much in a film and telling a quote unquote original story.

[00:30:45] I just feel especially with Alice of the Late, a lot of these whether it's Pixar or Dreamworks feels like a lot of ideas are just getting recycled just in different ways. But at least again, I think the big thing about animation is again, you're watching something

[00:31:00] that is intended for the visual medium. And this looks striking. So that is the number one thing. So at least on that front, the wild robot is set, whether it will turn out to be something

[00:31:11] very different or a bit more conventional as kind of been floated around, especially through that trailer, which is way too long. That remains to be seen. I see it has a release date of September 27.

[00:31:23] That leads me to believe that there's a possibility it might have a world premiere in Toronto. I don't know about that. But we'll have to wait and see. I do know that Universal is very, very high on it. They're very excited.

[00:31:39] And based on everything I've heard about it from a production standpoint, it's really borrowing a lot from classic Disney animated films. Hayao Miyazaki, there's a real emphasis here on storytelling because there's this is also the final animated film to be made entirely in-house at Dreamworks.

[00:31:59] So they really want to go out on a high note with this one, which only fuels my curiosity and my anticipation for it. I have a feeling it will still be special and pretty damn good, all things considered. Did this trailer make me more excited than I was?

[00:32:19] No. Did it make me less excited? Maybe just a tad, but also at the same time, I do think there's quite a bit of potential here. Yeah, it does look like something different in the animation race, which I think given

[00:32:32] the direction that the Academy has taken in its nominees recently is probably a very good thing for it. Now, let's take a look at a trailer that features one of our favorite animated characters. Paddington in Peru, also known as Paddington 3, is going to be released in theaters in

[00:32:49] the United Kingdom on November 8th and has the returning voice talent of Ben Whishaw. No Paul King in the director's chair. But let's take a look at this trailer and see how we feel. Thank you for using Photo Me. Thank you for having me.

[00:33:06] Please note that headwear is not permitted. Make sure your face is within the red circle. Red circle, right. Commencing photos in three, two, one. Yes. It feels like Paddington when I watch it. It doesn't look like Paddington when I watch it though.

[00:33:34] Paul King is such a special filmmaker. I even think something like Wonka illustrated that because that's a movie that on paper I probably should not have enjoyed at all. But his direction elevated that movie so, so much. And I just feel like there's...

[00:33:51] Well, let's put it this way. More than just Sally Hawkins is missing from what I see here. Yeah. At least with Paul King, I know he's not directing and I think again, that's the biggest concern.

[00:34:03] I think he is the magical glue that makes everything work so perfectly for these beloved and adorable films. He does have a story credit for this one, so he is involved and he's producing it to a degree. So it's not like he's entirely absent.

[00:34:19] I don't know how involved he must've been behind the scenes. I'm going to hold out hope. My Latin King is now returning to his home roots in Peru. He's going to go on some fun river rides. He's going to hang out with Antonio Banderas.

[00:34:33] Olivia Colman as a nun with alternative motives. Yes, I'm in. Olivia Colman in the Hugh Grant spot. I mean, that's a great swap as far as I'm concerned. That was smart. And she looks like she's having a blast.

[00:34:48] I mean, between this and Wonka, she clearly has been lately. I mean, who does comedy better than Olivia Colman? Seriously. Yeah. How did you all feel about Emily Mortimer? I like her as an actress.

[00:34:59] I think if the film is close to the standard of the first two, she'll fit in just fine. Yeah. I'm not like concerned about it or anything. I just, you know, I just miss Sally Hawkins is all. But overall, comedy is on point.

[00:35:16] Ben Whishaw's voice acting is on point. The animation for Paddington looks better than ever before. But this didn't have the wow factor to it that. And maybe the final film, kind of like what we were saying before, maybe the final film will exceed our expectations.

[00:35:37] But I'm going into this one definitely with a lower set of expectations due to the absence of Paul King, which I think is expected and many people will probably feel the same way. That does leave the door open then for the opportunity for this movie to surprise and

[00:35:53] be hopefully just as good as the previous two. Yeah. When I first saw the Paddington 2 trailer, I was like, well, I don't know. I don't know. And then we got this masterpiece. So I'm with Gio. I'm keeping an open mind on this one. And but here's hoping.

[00:36:10] I do find it very funny that Pedro Pascal is in the wild robot, but he's not involved here in Paddington in Peru. Given what was that movie with Nicolas Cage? He was in again. Oh, yes. Yeah. The unbearable weight of massive talent. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay.

[00:36:28] And then our third and final trailer here for this week is for the instigators, which is the new film from Doug Liman. He keeps himself very, very busy. That man starring Casey Affleck and Matt Damon. This is coming out to Apple TV plus on August 2nd in theaters.

[00:36:50] Apple TV plus August 9th. Let's take a look. Rory, do you want to fix things with your son? Couldn't look him in the eye. Mortgage back child support. That's on me. Rory, are you sure you've tried everything? Not everything. I got a once in a lifetime score.

[00:37:12] You're the Marine. Yeah. I'm on. Yeah, I did time, but you only got to cast aspersions at me, guys. I'm dying. Stop talking. No alcohol detected. It's been about a week. The mayor is going to be holding a party on election night.

[00:37:27] There's going to be money there like none of you bums ever seen. It's your first job. I know what I'm doing. A little late for a career change, ain't it? What are you, 60? Quick question. If I'm giving instructions and they're not doing them.

[00:37:40] Just say, I have a gun. What are you doing? Taking notes. Taking notes on a criminal experience. Yes. I was going to say, given that it's Father's Day. Speaking of Father's Day. Man. The most dad thing I've seen this entire year.

[00:37:51] I watched that trailer and I just thought of the Thanos thing where he's like, perhaps I treated you too harshly. And that was maybe me for Roadhouse because this looks like a blast. I'm sorry. I'm so in. Just very Boston boys. Just doing a little heist together.

[00:38:14] Hong Chao is just chilling. It's called a car chase for a reason. Like yeah, okay. Come on. When they did say car in the trailer, I did start laughing hysterically. It's heaven. Michael Stuhlbarg showed up. That's an immediate one point extra in my rating right there. Yes.

[00:38:33] This has got a great cast. I think Reims, Alfred Molina, Paul Walter Hauser, Toby Jones, Ron Perlman. I saw Ron Perlman's a politician. What? Oh, give it to me now. Yeah. It's like Matt Damon was just bored one day and then just rewatching the town.

[00:38:53] He's like, man, I need my version of the town. And they envisioned it as this action comedy instead of like this straight up drama, which I don't know. So in case you have like a Matt Damon doing comedy together, I'm a little hesitant on that front.

[00:39:07] I'm worried this is one of those things where maybe the best bits are in the trailer. Also too, I don't know if this is correct or not, but I'm looking at the runtime here. 138 minutes. Yeah. We have to establish the Boston setting. All right.

[00:39:21] I'm going to go to their pubs for a hot minute and see the Red Sox. Yeah, we got to see the Sox. Okay. Come on. I want to apologize to all the people from Boston that are listening to this right now. Oh, come on.

[00:39:34] As soon as you heard that first syllable of a Southie accent, I was just told. Listen, I will admit it looks like fun. I also think it could be potentially very dumb. Oh yeah.

[00:39:45] But I think we've all been... and tell me if I'm right or wrong on this. I think we've all been kind of collectively enjoying this stage in Matt Damon's career where he has firmly settled into, I'm no longer action Hollywood blockbuster movie

[00:40:01] star, but now I'm just making dad films essentially. Yeah. You started Oppenheimer. He's also doing stuff like The Last Duel. Well, not just... No, no, no. It's not just that. It's air. It's Oppenheimer. Yeah. Yeah. It's Ford v Ferrari. Matt Damon is now the quintessential...

[00:40:22] I make movies for dads. I think also this year is just making up for the lack of dad films last year because air was an Oppenheimer, sure. But this year is just so much more. And I think the future dad in me is very thankful.

[00:40:37] You got to meet a girl first, Giovanni, and then you got to... No, it's fine. No. Dad is energy. It's a mindset. Okay? You don't actually have to have a kid to be a father. Fun fact. Happy Father's Day to all the real dads out there.

[00:40:50] I'm also sorry. I'm sorry. That's like the most ridiculous thing I've heard you say on this show, but I love it. That's great. Okay. Anything else about this trailer? Jack Harlow's in this for some reason.

[00:41:10] Which is like the one glaring thing we just decided not to talk about. I felt like I had to just dip my toe in that pool. But he's honestly not bad at comedic timing. I thought the white man can't jump remake was really bad, but he's actually genuinely

[00:41:25] good in it. So I'm interested to see how that dynamic plays with him and Affleck and Damon. But it looks fine. Again, like in real honesty, is this going to be some great action comedy? Probably not. It's going to be dumb, but I need a little dumb.

[00:41:42] And it looks solidly crafted. It looks fun. And Ben Affleck is also producing this as well. Damon and Affleck, they're making movies for their generation and it's working. There's a reason for it. So I don't expect this to be an outlier of their recent filmographies when they work

[00:42:00] together. No, Artist Equity is doing some really innovative stuff right now. And good shout out there, Lauren. I definitely agree with you on that front. The other thing I'll also point out too, is I don't know if you all felt the same way

[00:42:12] about this, but I was immediately triggered when I saw Casey Affleck in a green hoodie. Happy Father's Day to him. Yeah, best Father's Day film, Manchester by the Sea. Go check it out, listeners. Watch it with a fan. All right. No festival run for this movie.

[00:42:31] Whereas Wolves, which is a film that we talked about a couple of days ago on the podcast, that likely is going to probably premiere in Venice, I think. So I think it just goes to show, you know, like from Apple's standpoint, they're putting

[00:42:41] one film in the festival slot, given its star power, where this one, it'll premiere before the festivals, but it should be hopefully a nice breezy summer watch regardless. All right. And now let's take a look at the polls.

[00:42:55] For last week's poll for the release of Inside Out 2, we asked everyone which has been your favorite Disney Pixar film over the last decade. This is a new era for Disney Pixar. One where there are still gems to be found, but also to quite a few disappointments.

[00:43:13] So with that mixed bag of films, Lauren, which one is your favorite from the last 10 years? I mean, it's probably just the original Inside Out. Can I say that? Is that boring? That's fine. Yeah, because that's the original idea. It's smart.

[00:43:29] It invaded the lexicon of how we communicate about emotions and feelings and memories. And I think that was genius. And even though I think this sequel is still good, it is not as groundbreaking as those

[00:43:44] original ideas and the way they explored all of that visually was just stunning. All right. Giovanni, what about you? I had to Google the date just to make sure. And I still got a few more years. So we're good.

[00:43:57] Coco is still, to me, the best Pixar film to come out in a decade. I think my relationship with Pixar, especially as of late, hasn't been what I once cherished. I don't know. Maybe it's just me getting older.

[00:44:10] Although I think the best aspects of a Pixar film is that no matter what age and what phase of your life it is, it's something that's relatable and something that grabs you.

[00:44:20] And I think Coco just or like more so cultural bias for me, I thought was incredibly moving and the music is catchy. And I think it's the best. Although Inside Out would be my number two. Tom?

[00:44:34] Well, you don't have to ask me, you know, Inside Out is one of my favorite films. But I also I concur with Gio on Coco. I think that's a really terrific achievement. And I also like Soul for many of the same reasons.

[00:44:50] I like the original Inside Out in terms of getting in into people's heads and inner space. And I thought visually it was pretty striking. So those would probably be my three. Yeah, and I think for me, I would probably say my favorite is also probably Soul.

[00:45:08] I don't know. Probably, I'll go with Soul. I go back and forth on this quite a bit. So it's a very interesting lineup to say the least. Let's see what the MBP film community did here vote with their ranking.

[00:45:22] Coming in at number 10, we have the latest Inside Out 2. Wow. OK, hey, did you guys see that box office report for this weekend? People love Inside Out. It's nice. The teenagers are going to the movies. I mean, that's especially encouraging given how disappointing some of the initial weekends

[00:45:43] on some of the animated films from Disney have been lately. So I think they've gotten over the wait for Disney Plus, at least for this film. Yeah. If anything, it just tells me more parents should have took their kids to see Furiosa.

[00:45:58] Well, number nine, what Disney is probably thinking to themselves right now. Onward. OK, that was good. Thank you. Thank you. I will have forever positive memories onward, especially like in the heat of the pandemic

[00:46:13] when we're all locked in and it came on Disney Plus and Zoom was still like the newfangled thing everyone was dabbling with. Me and all my friends were in the Zoom chat watching it together for like some sense of normalcy.

[00:46:24] So in that lens, there are some fond feelings towards that movie. But yeah, an appropriate spot for Onward. Number eight, a movie that I still think did not deserve the beating that it took last year, Elemental. It's cute. Yeah, that's cute.

[00:46:42] You know, it did get unjustly slammed at Cannes and thankfully it found an audience. Number seven, Incredibles 2. I like Incredibles 2. I think that's fun. Yeah, I like it. It's not as good as the first one. Elastigirl has a motorcycle chase. That is cool. Yeah, come on.

[00:47:03] And also Bob Odenkirk is just playing Saul Gettler. Number six, this might be a little debatable. You all tell me number six is Toy Story 4. I don't think that film needs to exist.

[00:47:16] But the fact that it's as good as it is despite existing is still pretty incredible to me. Like it's not as good as the other three, but like for it to be as good as it is still like it's not a bad Pixar.

[00:47:28] This is the thing I feel like everyone acknowledges that Toy Story 4 is not bad, but nobody wanted it and so I feel like that too gets like such an unfair rap from people and it like kind

[00:47:42] of bums me out because I think Toy Story 4 does a pretty damn good job and also features like some of the best animation I've ever seen from Pixar. They managed to make a compelling film from a story that you thought was completely told

[00:47:58] and you know it's a very honorable fourth edition. All right now this is where things get very interesting with the top five. Number five is Luca. Luca's good. It's cute. Luca's good. I like it. It's a mermaid in Italy. Luca's good. Call me by your Luca. Yeah.

[00:48:21] Number four. Turning red. I'm glad it's up there. Yeah, same feelings. This is a Pixar that I've never really grabbed me. Really? Yeah. Bummer. It's good, but like I will say it is as someone who works with children, I'm pretty shocked

[00:48:42] by how many have not seen it for some reason. Probably because their parents are like shielding them from it is my guess. Yeah, which is awesome. That's its own problem. But yeah. All right. Number three. Really really tight race here between these three.

[00:49:00] Coming in at number three is Soul. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Makes sense. Forever low key have beef with Soul. It was in my top ten favorite movies that year, but every time the Knicks suck in real life they always play that clip from the movie. Again.

[00:49:15] I'm like, okay, I'm tired of this. I can't see this anymore. All right. And then by a difference of 32 votes, number two is Coco and number one is Inside Out. Makes sense. Yeah. Really solid top three. I think overall the ranking makes a lot of sense.

[00:49:35] I mean there's like a few things that would change here or there, but not bad all things considered. I agree. All right. This week's poll for the release of Kinds of Kindness. We are asking everyone what is your favorite anthology film? Anyone have a favorite?

[00:49:55] I really like Night on Earth. I don't know if it's really good. I really like Night on Earth. It's like a big therapy session. You know, I think to keep it on theme was a certain filmmaker we just talked about and

[00:50:09] I saw it this year for the first time. I really enjoyed Go, the Doug Liman flick from 1999. Although like all the stories like intersect, there's like huge portions where it's just these specific groups of these friends and their adventures.

[00:50:24] And it's also very nuts and very the Tarantino-esque nature to it, you know. And also Timothy Olyphant, just looking as great as ever in a movie. And it's like forever just as he gets older, he just looks better. And it's actually unfair.

[00:50:40] Also, Sarah Polly is like one of the main actresses in it and she's great. And also the cast in hindsight, you know, seeing how there's a lot of them are still working like Taye Diggs and Melissa McCarthy. It's a blast. Yeah, it's good.

[00:50:54] This is a movie I would see anytime and it would make me laugh. There's an Argentinian film called Wild Tales. Yes. Yes. Everyone should have this in their top three when they are casting their vote.

[00:51:07] If you have not seen Wild Tales, you should go out and watch this immediately. Immediately. I think it's on MUBI. Yeah, I think you're right. The first vignette alone will just grab you and you'll want to sit there for the next two hours. It's fantastic. It's great.

[00:51:25] I want to give a shout out to Quaden. And we said Wild Tales. So I'll say Sin City. I haven't seen that in years. I'd love to go back and see it because I mean, just the look of it is still firmly implanted in my mind.

[00:51:43] Oh yeah, absolutely. I freaking love Sin City. The aesthetic of that movie is so striking that every time I've seen a real like on set photo of them making it and seeing the clothing and color, it actually like does something to my brain in a negative manner.

[00:51:58] But yeah, if you guys have never seen Quaden, it's a Japanese anthology horror film. It's in the Criterion collection, so you probably can watch it on the Criterion streaming app. Really, really good, like extremely well done for its time.

[00:52:15] It's three hours long, but you know, it's an anthology film. So every single one of these, you know, obviously feels like its own movie within the movie. So I can't recommend that one enough. Also too, I only saw this movie recently. I Am Cuba is stunning.

[00:52:34] Oh, like really, really, really good. So I highly recommend that as well. I mean, there's a lot of really great stuff just on Criterion in general. But it's usually a goldmine for looking at classic cinema.

[00:52:47] Did you guys I'm also curious to did you guys watch Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy the year that Hamaguchi had Drive My Car because he also released that film the same year as well. And I'm just curious if anybody had a chance to catch that.

[00:53:01] I have not sadly. No, and I wanted to very, very much. Now you've stirred me to maybe take a look at it this afternoon. I mean, if you love Hamaguchi, just in general, it's worth it. 100% worth it. So good. Highly recommended. There's some really great options here.

[00:53:18] And I'm curious to hear what you all think of Kinds of Kindness. I'm interested in hearing the debate over which story you guys think is the best. Did you guys, you know, enjoy it? Was it a little too opaque for you?

[00:53:31] Like, you know, I'm just curious to know, but should be a fun time. I'm excited to watch it again, even though like, you know, it's two hours and 45 minutes, but it's a it's it's it's dark Lanthimos going back to, you know, his work pre Tony McNamara.

[00:53:46] I mean, doesn't get much better than that, right? That is true. And now let's end things with questions from the MVP film community for this week. Like I said, we are breezing through this episode because I have to go and spend time with my father.

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[00:54:42] We can't thank you enough for the support. Now back to the show. All right, let's see what everybody had to ask us. A lot of Father's Day questions, I'm sure. Ian Balakalak, what is your favorite movie about fatherhood? Oh, God. It's been so many.

[00:55:00] Although I'll go with one recent one. I would recommend the Iron Claw. Oh wow. Oh wow. The rankings can always change. Jesus. You know what, since we're going great dads, quote unquote, let's go with Oldboy. Oh my gosh. Excuse me? Very morbid Father's Day.

[00:55:28] You know what I'm gonna say? Just because we're in the mood right now of just ripping people's hearts out, I'll say After Son. Are you kidding? That was going to be sweet because for some reason I'm really feeling Finding Nemo for some reason. I just like love him.

[00:55:46] Oh, that's nice. I love a good movie dad. Yeah. But you guys are just like killing it over here. Richard Houlihan wants to know, do you think Furiosa would have performed better at the box office if Charlize Theron was brought back? No.

[00:56:05] I don't think that would have made a lick of a difference. I think the sad truth is this series is just a very specific niche for people to go see it. And it's a great film. It's one of the best things personally I've seen this year.

[00:56:20] I think it's amazing. It's just kind of hard again to get a general audience like bringing my grandma to a movie when there's people named Scrotus and Erectus in it. Like I'm sorry, but it's not like everyone's gonna go see it and just be like, yeah, this

[00:56:32] is incredibly my thing when it has a very specific stylized nature, especially with George Miller making it. That being said, you know, it doesn't help that like immediately after there is stuff

[00:56:43] coming out and now we have bad boys and now all these animated movies are going to start coming out and families are going to start taking their kids to see it. It didn't help. Who knows?

[00:56:53] Maybe it pulls a Northman where it does so good on like VOD and DVD sales that they're like, all right, we like broke even and we'll give George Miller, we'll let him do the Wasteland. But who knows?

[00:57:06] Adam Clay, after a disappointing May, what are your thoughts on the state of the box office now that bad boys ride or die and Inside Out 2 have overperformed in their expectations? We're fine. I think Will Smith's the movie star. Yeah, yeah, you can't argue that one.

[00:57:23] And Pixar should stop doing day and date streaming. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they're going to they're going to learn the lessons like, wow, OK, we need to make like three more Inside Out movies. No, no, not just Inside Out. And they've already established they haven't learned this lesson.

[00:57:37] They're going to just lean into IP and sequels. Yeah, they've said. And unfortunately, Inside Out 2 is proving that point correct. Do you guys want to see an origin film about Envy or something like that? Because it's coming, people. It's only a matter of time.

[00:57:52] What killed me about that press release was they were really disparaging the films that were personal films by the filmmakers that they didn't do as well, like Luca. And I thought that was an unnecessary slam. Oscar H., what is going on with Steve McQueen's Blitz?

[00:58:08] It doesn't have a theatrical distributor. It was absent from Cannes. It's likely skipping Venice and Telluride, and it wasn't mentioned on Apple's new 2024 sizzle reel. Is there a chance that the movie isn't the presumed Oscar juggernaut that we all think it is?

[00:58:24] That's tough to just assume that because I think if someone pedigree like Steve McQueen, you're always going to give the benefit of the doubt. He's an amazing filmmaker, Oscar winner, like, come on. That being said, a bit odd hasn't been listed.

[00:58:40] I don't think it's that's a film that they're not going to just skip a festival and just cold copy or like release it and just expect it. It's not a box office play in any way, unless you're expecting every older citizen in the

[00:58:54] world to tune in because it's like a World War Two film. It's definitely like an awards play if it's the whole purpose of that movie. I don't know. I'm very curious. What do you guys think?

[00:59:05] Well, I mean, I think that it may be if there is a little trouble about it. I think that McQueen's reputation is such that a play at Telluride would make sense. Yeah, I wouldn't count out Telluride. I totally wouldn't count out Telluride.

[00:59:20] Is there a reason why we're kind of assuming this? I personally am not. That's just the way the question was raised. I actually do think that Telluride makes sense. I really see this as Telluride. Yeah, yeah. Totally. I can see NIF also.

[00:59:34] Didn't they just have Occupied City play there last year's documentary? I'm sure. They had his anthology film, the TV... Oh my God, what was it called? Small Axe. Yeah. Yeah. They love him. The only reason why it would skip the festivals is it's not ready.

[00:59:51] But from what I've heard, it's been ready. I think it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're just waiting for the right moment to splash it into the world. I don't think they have to release something so early to start chomping at the bits.

[01:00:03] I think it's going to be nice. Yeah, it's a game. To be very clear about this too. I already had a conversation with Apple about this. It's coming out. Yeah. So let's not act like it's not coming. And it's also strategy.

[01:00:14] You need to figure out not only what time is best for the film, but what film festival is best for the film. So there's reasons why maybe it wouldn't go to Cannes, but it would go to Telluride or it wouldn't go to TIFF, but it'll go to Venice.

[01:00:27] There's different vibes or different atmospheres for each festival and you need to figure out which one is best for the film itself or the subject. Edwin Oroz, as of today, which movie do you think is going to get the most Oscar nominations? Ooh. Blitz. Really? I can't.

[01:00:45] There's a chance Dune 2 might, honestly. I mean, maybe if it doesn't perform below expectations. I mean, and also too, a lot of other films would have to not do well in their nomination halls. But we're going just, you know, we still have a whole year.

[01:01:07] Got plenty of festivals, plenty of films we haven't seen. We have a half year, Gio. Let's be clear. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Like, okay, now that you're saying that, fine. Rip the bandaid off. So far this year, there hasn't been much. Okay.

[01:01:18] And Cannes was just a slew of everyone's quote unquote predictions or disappointments just getting striked out the window. Dune is one film that is remained talked about and I can see that movie.

[01:01:31] You know, I was very skeptical about like, I don't think it's gonna get as much or this or that. I don't know. You know, there's certain things where maybe the score quote unquote might not be eligible because a lot of the music from the first one's there.

[01:01:45] But now that like half of the year is gone, it's looking pretty good that this movie could get a nomination still. Yeah. Josie DeMarco says memoir of a snail and flow won big prizes at Annecy Festival. Would these victories bode well for them in the animated feature race?

[01:02:02] I'd say yes. I mean, I already saw flow at Cannes and I think it's firmly in the conversation and memoir of a snail on paper having not seen it. Yes, I do also have that in my five.

[01:02:13] So I thought this was a really good week for both of them. Yeah, I think the direction of the Academy, particularly with the robot dreams embraced last year is this is just the kind of film that they're beginning to recognize and nominate.

[01:02:27] Did you guys see the trailer from the memoir of a snail? I have not. It looks fantastic. I when you guys get a chance, check it out. Because yeah, I mean, after watching it, I immediately thought to myself, yeah, that's definitely getting nominated.

[01:02:42] Like, I could tell right away. Matt at Raidwart is Pamela Anderson, a serious candidate for best actress for The Last Showgirl. I'm so excited about this movie. Those funnels are cool. Yes. Listen, there's a good chance it could be a complete dumpster fire.

[01:02:59] But I am putting the energy out there in the world and I'm going to just say yes. I'm looking forward to it. Demi Moore versus Pamela Anderson best. Oh my God, I'm gonna love that roundtable.

[01:03:09] I would love that actors on actors like let's put that into the world everyone. Yes. Yeah, that is cool. The documentary about Pamela Anderson. Um, what was it called again? The recent one that just came out? Pamela. It was it?

[01:03:21] I think that has gone a long way towards getting people ready for this moment for her. All the film has to do is get good reviews if it premieres at like Venice or whatever. And I think she is boom, she's in that conversation immediately.

[01:03:38] If it gets trashed reviews, and it's you know, considered like one of the worst films of the year or something like that, then the chances are done like immediately. But I think as long as the movie gets decent reviews, she's immediately going to get catapulted into that conversation.

[01:03:54] Now does she go all the way and actually get the nomination? In the end that remains to be seen. But as far as being a part of the conversation, yeah, all the pieces are there in place.

[01:04:03] As we all know that it's so important to have a story for your Oscar campaign and she's got one. Exactly. Dropout Jacob wants to know in honor of Father's Day, who was the worst dad in cinema history? Well, Daniel Plainview.

[01:04:18] Okay, he was setting his son up for a great career, was doing everything he could to give him a future. He used him Gio for his own personal gain. There's my son HW. Come on. Bastard in a basket. Bastard in the basket.

[01:04:34] Well, on a lighter note, I might nominate Royal Tenenbaum. Oh, that's a good one. I like that. I mean, Mr. Jackie from The Shining isn't the best. He made a mistake or two. A little mistake. I mean, oh, we could say the Iron Claw again. There we go.

[01:04:58] And end things here this week with at ads 82. What is everyone's favorite dad movie? Oh, an impossible question. This is so broad. There's so many things I could say. I could very easily say any movie directed by Tony Scott. Yeah, you know? Oh, yes. God, Tony Scott.

[01:05:18] I could say all the James Bond films. I could say, there's so many answers to this. I'm going to keep us since you mentioned a Scott. I'm going to talk about Ridley Scott's The Martian, which- Oh, that's a good one. All tier dad movie.

[01:05:35] Also maybe one of the most rewatchable movies of the past two decades where I would add a jam and I'm just on a treadmill. And for like 30 minutes, I got distracted and I was just watching it with no audio because

[01:05:46] that screenplay flows and everyone in that ensemble is ridiculous. And talk about Matt Damon making dad movies. He's just lights out. That movie. You know what? I might watch The Martian later tonight. You know what? 1917, I think, is a good recent answer as well.

[01:06:03] That and Ford v Ferrari coming out the same year. That was dad core. I then you had the Irishman, too, for your like slightly. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. The other day, like a couple months ago, during like Memorial Day weekend, my dad had this

[01:06:17] like hyper fixation where I would come home. I came home and he was like, I want to watch that movie with the guy from Stranger Things on the cars. And I was like, what are you talking about?

[01:06:27] And he was like, you just kept saying that over and over again. He's like the Stranger Things guys with the cars. And so I was like, oh, it's Gran Turismo. So we watched that. And he loved it.

[01:06:38] He had such a good time with that because it's like video games plus cars was Stranger Things guy, David Harbour. And it was just the he loved that sucker. So that was a really exciting little dad moment for him.

[01:06:54] That was a movie that was far better than I ever thought it was going to be. Yeah. It had no right to be that good. No, not at all. I mean, Top Gun Maverick, I think, is now like considered an instant dad. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:07:09] I mean, that's the go to. Yeah. I mean, but if you want to go like further back than that, it's a gladiator. You know what? Speed. Oh, that's right. Speed. Yeah, that's great. I agree with Gladiator.

[01:07:24] Just I feel like a lot of Ridley Scott's filmography, it's like, yeah, my dad would like this. Yeah. I don't know. A lot of Ridley Scott films sometimes I'm like, my dad fell asleep during it. That's just part of being a dad.

[01:07:35] You're going to be like, wow, I can't wait to watch this film with my son. You crack back that lazy boy and then by like the first five minutes you're asleep during the movie.

[01:07:43] Please, please, Gio, who's a decade younger than me, tell me what it's like being a dad. It's again, it's a mindset, you know, it's a thing in your soul that just elevates in there. And then one day it just comes out.

[01:07:55] I feel like it's more in my body than in my soul, but that's OK. It's in my knees too, you know? So wait, Matt, how do you feel about Any Given Sunday? Oh, I love Any Given Sunday. That's your dad in the spirit right there.

[01:08:08] That's a dad spirit. We fight for that inch. We scratch and claw with our fingernails. Oh, Feel the Dreams also, I think. Oh well. Oh well, I mean, come on. Kevin Costner also, any movie starring Kevin Costner is a dad film. Yeah. Yep. Bull Durham.

[01:08:27] Just him sitting in the bar, just like the most stand-stumped individual ever in the movies. Like, come on. You know what? I think this is a good note to end on here. We've given everybody some good dad core energy to take with them to all the fathers

[01:08:40] out there. Happy Father's Day. And thank you all for listening as you always do. Tom O'Brien, tell everyone that's listening right now where they can find you on the internet. You can find me on Twitter at Thomas E. O'Brien. Giovanni Lago.

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