Ep 264- Tridev - 80s Dhamaka Series

[00:00:00] Dhamaka Dhamaka My name is Blackhand Where you are standing, you start with the line of wine

[00:00:24] Hi and welcome to a new episode of Khandaan Podcast. My name is Asim Burni and I'm joined with my lovely co-host Amritain Sujoy. Hey Amritain Sujoy! Hey, your pain is broken, all right? The two Khandaans have left behind us, Amritain Sujoy. But the voiceover is Asim's. We are continuing our 80s Dhamaka series with Tridev this episode.

[00:00:50] A movie that Sujoy watched a week ago and since then has been saying, Amritain, good luck recapping this movie. Yeah man, seriously. But talking of 80s Dhamaka, like this movie is, it represents both those words. It is the most Dhamaka out of all Dhamakas.

[00:01:11] So you guys haven't watched Badass Ravi Kumar, but the whole time when Nasiruddin Shah's voiceover is going on in the background like, Paap ki dharti fati.

[00:01:28] And all I could remember is in Badass Ravi Kumar, every time Himesh Reh Shamir, you know, does something even the least bit swagalicious, the background goes, Badass, Badass, Badass. Yeah. And that is all I could think about when I was watching this.

[00:01:50] Because I saw the trailers of Badass Ravi Kumar, I was like, what 80s movies were like this? And then I watched Tridev and I was like, okay, Tridev was like this. Yeah. Yeah. But now I have a question for you guys. Okay. Should we rebrand Khanda to Tridev since we are literally Tridev?

[00:02:15] I got worried for a second that we are going to have to watch only movies of Sunny Deval, Jackie Shroff and Nasiruddin Shah. But we can probably include Madhuri Dixit in it. We can include Amrish Puri in it. There you go. Yeah. Let's get into Tridev. Amrita, your task that is at hand and I hope you can accomplish is what is Tridev about?

[00:02:40] Listen, I'm not even going to attempt to recap this thing. I'm going to read you what IMDB says because it doesn't matter. Like the plot of this movie does not matter. Things happen in a sequence that we will discuss. I don't know if they happen in a sequence. Yeah. There is flashback, flash forwards, like the timey-wimey stuff.

[00:03:10] But according to IMDB, when an exiled police officer, a bandit and the son of a police commissioner. And honestly, like two of these are correct descriptions. I'm not really sure if all of them are correct. But when an exiled police officer, a bandit and the son of a police commissioner are framed by a smuggler. They join forces to teach him a lesson and prove their innocence.

[00:03:39] This IMDB summary was written by Rajiv Rai because nobody could do it except him. Write something like what is this movie about Rajiv? Like write it down. Rajiv, what is this behavior? So 3DF, for people that don't know, came out in 1989, directed by Rajiv Rai. This movie, although maybe forgotten, was a massive hit.

[00:04:04] This was the third biggest hit of the year after Me Ne Piyar Kiya and Ram Nakhan. And it had a soundtrack that was, I mean, I don't even know. Like, you know, like people used to get obsessed with one song. I don't think we have that anymore because the cycle of music and content is so quick. Yeah. That, you know, it was so big. It was everywhere. Yeah. Tirchi Ropi Wale. Yeah.

[00:04:32] You cannot comprehend how big this song was and how big it made the movie. It is a movie that I have not watched since 1989. Yeah. And watching it now was a trip. And I'm assuming you guys have not watched this movie since 1989, right? I think, as you said, the music keeps it fresh in your mind, the memory of 3Dev.

[00:04:55] But I don't think any of us, like, I watched it, like, sometime in the 90s on a VHS tape because I didn't go to the cinema to watch this. I remember the whole Gajar Ne Kiya Hai Ishara, the three ladies dancing image, like, seared into my brain because Chitrahar used to play that a lot. And all of them, like, I think the color combination of the three dresses and madhuri and so, Nerman Sangeetha Vigilani.

[00:05:24] So, so, it's crazy. Yeah. It was iconic in the best meaning of the term. You know, it was, yeah. As you said, this movie had things going for it. But going back to rewatch it was something else. What are your memories of it, Amrita? I just remember, like, Tichitopiwale being played continuously.

[00:05:52] Like, I just remember, like, Sujoy said, you couldn't escape it. It was on TV. It was on live TV. Not just the song. Like, even just Yunus Pervais in the beginning of the song saying, action! You know, that bit. And then, like, Nasruddin coming with, like, oh, eh, oh, eh. That was just, I'm like, I was like, oh my god, there's Mickey Mouse and this lion.

[00:06:18] It's the worst quality costume department ever in a Hindi movie. And they are like, ha-ha, we dance. And then just very questionable aesthetics of, you know, tribal dance routine going. And Saroj Khan giving her best. It's everything. And it's so interesting to me that this was Nasruddin Shah. Because this was, like, you know, I mean, we'll talk about him later on, I guess.

[00:06:44] But this was such an unlikely person for this really hit song to be filmed on. Kids today could never wrap their heads around it. You know, like Nasruddin Shah going oh, eh, oh, eh with, like, Sonam. Um, but it was a, it was a banger of a track. Uh, and we, I don't think. Yeah. Like, my, because I was very little when this movie came out. So, I don't think we knew all the words necessarily. But we all knew the hook.

[00:07:13] We knew oe, oe. Because that was easy to say. So, I think. And also because it was stolen from Guri Estefan. Yes, of course. But, you know, like, back then, you didn't really have anything to tell you that this was taken. Unless you were listening to the Miami Sound Machine or something, you didn't know that this was, you know, taken from them. So, you just were just like, wow, this is a really good one.

[00:07:40] Like, Kalyanji Anandji created, like, earned a lot of goodwill and money from their previous soundtracks. And then they sent their son, Vijusha, abroad. And he brought all these samples back, like, Papa Yesu No. And then it became it. The three-day soundtrack, basically. That's literally it. Your uncle bringing, like, you know, a cassette that he was listening to in the States and, like, just repeating the whole thing.

[00:08:07] Also, I mean, you call it a Kalyanji Anandji soundtrack, but this is a Vijusha soundtrack. Yeah, it is a Vijusha soundtrack. Yeah, this is like, this is just, you know, putting their name on top of it. Like, it has the overt synth usage and it has the overt plagiarism. It has to be Vijusha. That can do it. Even when every single time we see Amrish Puri's character, there's that...

[00:08:36] So good. Yeah, oh my god. And I love that, you know, they did steal the OEOA, but then they really use it. They use it, like, seven times. Different versions, reprise. Yeah, we'll get into all of that. I have so many thoughts. Like, already, we've completely, like, unhinged ourselves from any structure to this podcast. Yes. So let's try to bring this movie down.

[00:09:03] Let's start with the beginning, because the beginning is like anything else that I've seen in a very long time. Because it starts with Dalit Tahil, like, leering out of a boat. In Rambo outfit. Randomly, he just, like, emerges from these boxes. And then he is just sort of, like, staring intensely at the shoreline. And on the shoreline are those two guys whose names I can never remember.

[00:09:33] But let's call them Tweedledum and Tweedledee, who are playing brothers. Teeth, Sabru and Dan Danoa. Oh, yeah, that's who they are. How do you not know these names? They have two sons. Come on. Yeah. Doga and Dranga. That's who. That's who. And, uh... Bujang's naming sequence of his own sons. Goga and Dranga.

[00:09:58] And both of them are looking at Dalit Tahil as if they want to screw him, like, really bad. And they're just like, this is the culmination of all our desires, you know, like, coming to us on a boat. And then they both... Can I just say, my wife did not watch this movie. She just came in the room to pick up, like, a glass and then leave. And she looked at them and she said, those two look like rapists. Yeah.

[00:10:27] That's called 80s character design. Yes. Because at the moment... You forgot the moment where they, like, Dilip Tahil coming on a boat and they have a flashlight. Yes. Nobody should sell these men flashlights. It's like... If they buy a flashlight, the shopkeeper should call the cops immediately. These men are up to no good. And the thing is, like, they're doing the flashlight as a signal. But the way they're doing it is so creepy. Yeah.

[00:10:57] I find my Izzet was in danger immediately. They were sending really bad signals in Morse code. Like... And then, I don't know which print you guys saw, but my print, like, they just, like... They're clearly having a conversation with Dilip Tahil after he, like, reaches the shore. But in my version, they just overlaid it with, like, Nasiruddin Yagov. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:25] I couldn't hear them talking either. It was just like... Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was, like, a vibe. They had, like, seen this in, like, some Michael Mann movie and they just wanted to copy that. It was, yeah, it's epic. And then, of course, we see Bujang. Yeah. With... It's just... Like, the moment you see Dilip Tahil, who would think that you could cast him as Don? I know.

[00:11:56] And he's playing Angrez. Somebody calls him Angrezie Bhadave later on. So, clearly, he is playing some sort of white man. We don't know which white man he is. But... Yeah. It's not somebody. It's his Sunny Deval. It is Sunny Deval. Obviously. In his Punjabi accent, he's an Angrezie Bhadave. So, we have two Angrezie Bhadaves.

[00:12:25] We have him, Dalip Tahil. And we later on have also Gavin Packard that comes in. And he's also part of this international conglomerate that wants to destroy India, basically. And being Shingita Vigilani has to arrange for entertainment for this. No, no, no. Keep a stretcher, man. We're back at the start here. We cannot go there. Sorry. Sorry. I got too excited. You got too excited. Amrita, get us back on track. Where are we here? Flashlights.

[00:12:54] So, the funniest thing about Bhujang, who's played by Amrishwari, is that he actually has a very good 80s villain name. His name is Bhaero, as we find out. Bhaero Nat. Aku Bhaero Nat. But Bhujang is like a code switcher. So, like when he's in the gao, he's Bhaero. But when he's plotting international destruction of India, he's like Bhujang.

[00:13:21] And I'm like, why didn't you go for Mogambo or something? What? Like white people can't even pronounce Bhujang. Like what are you going for? Yeah, why that name? I couldn't understand it either. I was like, yeah. It's hilarious. So, yeah. So, this is like the good old time. And I don't know why, but in the 80s, there were a lot of like people of no known ethnicity

[00:13:50] or nationality who were trying to destroy India. And it was some sort of weird. I miss those times. As now I feel it's become very specific who's destroying India. And I don't know how I feel about that. But in movies like Sridev or Mr. India, etc. It's always like, you know, Amrish Puri. And he's just, he could be like Dr. Fu Manchu. Or he could be Genghis Khan.

[00:14:19] Like he could be like anybody, right? And he's just like India ko barbaad karenge. And why is never explained? Like there is no actual, oh, this is why we hate India. No, no, we, we do it. It's vibe-based destruction. Yes. And there's always some sort of like smuggling aspect to it. It took me, I would say like into my teens before I understood how smuggling would actually affect a country. Because as a child, I was like, but how?

[00:14:49] How are you like destroying? Sakur to Kashmiye. There's some very complex economics happening. Like we will destroy India through like complex international economic systems. And I'm like, okay. So that is what is happening. And then Amrita gave up. I will pause here.

[00:15:17] No, but it's also interesting because the reveal that he was a Daku in the Sriddin Shah's village comes much, much later that he had a different name and he was this other person. And I was like, man, the, you know, the kind of career progression from Daku to international crime lord is actually quite good. Like I think, I think it's a track that a lot of people would envy working in corporate at the moment, you know, because I'm just stuck in the same role.

[00:15:46] But look at, you know, Bhujang, you went from Bero to Bhujang within years, you know. It reminds me of a meme. Sorry. It reminds me of a meme that I saw today. Somebody crying basically. And the text said, me going to my nine to five job when I see people on OnlyFans buying their fifth Ferrari. No, but I, I think like this is an amazing example of the story being written on set, right?

[00:16:16] This entire movie. Yeah. Because it literally is like, here are our characters. They are now backed into a corner. Where do they go? I will just put something here. Yeah. I think at some point, like, you know, a spoiler alert at the intermission, at the interval, Sunny Deul is killed. Right. And then you have the Paap Ki Dharati Patti after the interval when the hand comes out and he's revealed as he's still alive.

[00:16:46] But at the interval level, you're like, hero mar gaya. Where do you go from here? And I was like, I think there was a lot of pressure on Rajiv right to deliver after that. Which is funny because I don't think of this as a Sunny Deul film at all. Like Sunny Deul and Madhuri are technically the leads of this film. But I do not remember either one of them for this film. Like for me, it was always, as a child, it was a Sangeeta Bajlani, Jackie Shroff film for

[00:17:15] me because Sangeeta Bajlani was just like so glamorous to me. Like we will talk about her later. And then on the second tier, it would be like Nasiruddin Shah and not really Sonam, but Nasiruddin Shah film. And so like I would never categorize this as like a Sunny lead. Although now that I see it, I am like, oh yeah, like he's supposed to be, you know, the main guy.

[00:17:43] For me, it's an Amrishpuri movie. It is definitely. Rajiv Rai and Amrishpuri. Those are the main people in this thing. So basically this is, this whole crime syndicate they have is a family affair. So, you know, Amrishpuri is called Papaji by his, you know, wayward sons. But they also call him Papaji when they're doing like arms deals. They're like, they're like buying arms from people. It's like Papaji is like this, Papaji is like that.

[00:18:13] I was like, what is going on? And then Dan Nino will call Tej Sapru Bhai Saab also. Which is also very funny. And then... That's so interesting about this film because so many things about this film point to it being from a completely different time. Like there's so many things.

[00:18:38] Like one is this, like the fact that he says Bhai Saab to his brother, which is like, who says that? But the other thing is like when Sunny is interrogating Vijendra Ghatke and, you know, he says like like what will happen when she finds out that you are a bad guy. And then immediately goes,

[00:19:06] I was like, what is inflation? 10 rupees? Bro, why can't she find a job? Why is she directly going into prostitution? What is this? It was prostitution or suicide. That was the option Sunny Deval was giving Vijendra Ghatke, who's playing an arms dealer in this movie where you see his face and you say, this man is not an arms dealer.

[00:19:32] And then you find out that the man is Sangeeta Vijrani who has her own plan. Like she's thought five steps ahead of Vijendra Ghatke. And like you are the fool. She seems like... And the funny part is she does choose some sort of prostitution. From her own volition. Yeah. It's not, but it's like, it's complicated guys. It's complicated.

[00:19:56] I was like, wait, when Sunny Deval was talking about it, it felt like it was kind of an, you know, Andi Bhaen Vidwa Maa situation. But it's 80s model Sangeeta Vijendra Vijrani. She's like, she knows what's up. But she's wearing a shalwar kameez at the start. So maybe she's a bit of, you know, Andi Bhaen. She's Andi Bhaen coded. Yeah. Okay. Yes.

[00:20:21] So, and also you have the guy, he's Rajesh Vivek who's playing his Chacha Ji. So there's also the Chacha Ji involved who's Gunga, right? So it is kind of like a whole family affair going on. Um, then, uh, Jackie Shroff and Madhuri are siblings. Our brothers and sisters. So that's also going on. And then, yeah. They are the kids of Anupam Kher who is the senior of Sunny Deval.

[00:20:50] Sunny Deval's father is a judge. Yeah. And then, uh, what else? There's Raza Murad who is an accomplice of Amrish Puri. And he's a politician and he's the father of Sonam who is the actress. Sonam the actress who is maybe being engaged to one of Amrish Puri's sons. So all of them. Yeah. And they have to choose. Yeah. Who is the one who gets engaged?

[00:21:19] And Raza Murad chooses this on the fly at a party. He's like, Akkad bakkad bambe bo. Dula to goga hi ho ga. I just want to go skip ahead. Cause later on when Raza Murad has the flip and they bring out Sonam, like, and Gududhanuwa then says, I will do to your daughter what my son couldn't do to her. Clearly implicating rape, but he was getting married.

[00:21:46] This was not like a legit, like these men have their, you know, sexualities really screwed up. Like what can you do with them? Yeah. A lot of rape threats in the eighties for sure. Let's break down these three storylines. Cause I think that might be the best way to do it. I want to go to the Sunny Madhuri last, because I do think that is kind of the main storyline. So let's get into maybe Sonam and Naseer first. Okay.

[00:22:15] Because I do think Tirchi Topi Bale was like the biggest thing. And I think that's how people connect. You were asking earlier, Amrita, which print did I see this in? And I watched it on YouTube in the most clear print I have ever seen in my life. That's the one that I've seen as well. I'm so shocked. To the point, I realized watching this movie, I never understood that Sonam as an actress was a very pretty lady. I didn't know. Like she was always like there.

[00:22:44] Like she was one of those actresses that was around. I was watching her on this. I was like, oh my God, she's beautiful. I did not know this. Yeah, it was just because the print was finally clear that I could see her face. It was a shock to me, you know. And this plot, I was like thinking about this plot. Isn't this plot very similar to Hero Hira Lal also? Like a movie that Naseer Dindha Shah ended up making much later on. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:13] So they basically, Sonam is an actress in the movie. She's shooting a song and Naseer shows up and then they end up, she has an idea that this is going to be a hit song, which it is. They sing up, sing Tirchi Topi Waale. They end up falling in love kind of, right? And then we realize that he's like also some sort of gunda or something like that. Amrita, you were saying you don't agree with him being a dacoit, right?

[00:23:43] No, he's, so he describes himself as a bagi. Yeah, rebel. Or Sunny Bial describes him as a bagi, right? Because he's sort of like the village do-gooder. So, you know, like if... It's Robin Hood Pandey. Haan, Robin Hood Pandey. That is what is happening. But this was years before Salman Khan. So like nobody knew that that was a good thing to be.

[00:24:11] And he basically sees Sonam shooting for this movie where she's being hassled by a bunch of goons. And he steps in to save her. Like that's his introduction scene where he's like trying to save Sonam. And that immediately establishes credentials, right? Like he will save the honor of the pretty girl. And then he's also being good to the gao ki ma and her abla-baity and everything. Yeah.

[00:24:41] And then starts a... So it starts with him getting into a fight with Sunny Dior and then the two of them becoming like bros. Speed track friendship. Yes. It goes so fast, you know? It goes so fast. It is... It's the very Amr and Anthony trope, right? Very coded. Yeah. That fight was very Amitabh, you know, Vinod Khanna coded. Yeah. For sure.

[00:25:10] Except to a creepy level where you are just like, I don't... I'm not entirely comfortable with this friendship. Yeah. So that... Does that answer your question? I can't remember. And then also there's the backstory of him, right? That he had a very, very old dad. Like he had a very old... He was a small kid. His dad was very, very old. And I don't know where the mom was.

[00:25:38] And you know, he's the kind of guy you see his dad's face and you know, yeh baap marega. He's very like, leh shapat agni pat agni pat coating. Oh God. And then Beharo Singh, Dagu Beharo Singh Amrush in his older version comes and kills him. And then laughs in the face of the child. I killed your dad. There is multiple things that happen over there. Okay.

[00:26:05] So first of all, what is that thing that he's taking from the dad? Like why does he kill the dad? I don't think he was a witness to a murder or something. And he was the only one who was standing up to Beharo. Yeah. Okay. So... And then before he was going to testify, he was getting killed basically. Because Beharo calls it a betrayal. And I was like, how is it a betrayal?

[00:26:33] Was your freedom fighter dad in cahoots with Beharo? Like what is happening? And then... So Beharo kills the dad and then tells some random like guy that's there. Like hey Ramu, you taking the blame for this. Okay. Which... Why? Why does Ramu have to take the fall for it? There's no reason. But anyway, Ramu takes the fall. And then this kid has watched everything. And then the local thanedar is Anupam Kher.

[00:27:02] Before he became the police commissioner. Who just sort of like comes in and says, Haan, so like we'll clemate the guy that's dead. And we're going to take this guy to jail. And the poor little kid is like, but that guy didn't murder my dad. Like my dad was killed by this other guy. And Anupam Kher is like, haan, haan. Okay, okay. And then he's like, leaves the kid there. And everybody just leaves the kid there. And what I just found funny is that the kid is small,

[00:27:31] but the kid is talking coherently. He's telling. Anupam Kher doesn't give a shit. He's like, I'm out. Okay, duty. Like I immediately was just like, oh yeah. So Anupam Kher is a shit police officer. I get it. As well as being a shit dad. That's how he became a commissioner, right? You have to be a shit police officer and a shit dad to become a police officer. That's how you climb the ladder. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:59] So, and now for some reason, after all of this, clearly like the entire village abandoned, you know, Nasir Dhan Shah, whose dad was literally the master G. And so he grows up into like Tirti Topiwale. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think Sonam necessarily has any storyline here. You know, she's just kind of like background. I don't think she even has like major dialogue or stuff like that.

[00:28:26] Her story is that the director is her husband. Yeah. They ended up getting married, right? Like, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So that's kind of the first couple. Then the second couple. By the way, Hero Hidalal came, was released a year earlier. Earlier. Okay. Maybe they then took it from there. They're like, let's condense this a little bit, you know. And put in a banger song. Yeah. Needed a banger song. Yeah.

[00:28:53] I think also like, I think this is one of those movies that ended up, allowed Nasir Dhan Shah to buy a house with this kind of movie. Because he was making some commercial movies. But this was the only massive, massive hit he had. Yeah. Nothing else really worked. I wonder how he remembers this movie. Does he remember this fondly? Or does he like, this was my paycheck movie? You know, I don't know. No. Who made that quote? Who's the guy? I'm blanking on the name.

[00:29:22] The guy that's the Alfred in the Batman Nolan movies. Michael Caine. Yeah. Michael Caine. He was asked like, do you remember? He was in Jaws 4 or 5. And he was like, do you remember the movie? He's like, I don't remember the movie. But I remember the house that the movie, you know, made me buy. So, I think that's what Nasir is probably thinking. Like, it made my house. So, yeah. Yeah. So, I think we're done with that storyline, right? Nothing important. Yeah. Then, so, we have the Jackie and Sangeeta.

[00:29:52] Sangeeta or Sanjita? How do you know? Sangeeta. Sangeeta, right. That storyline. Which is, they are like the oddest pairing in this movie. Like, so, he is, Jackie is basically Anupamkir's son. And he seems to be kind of like a Arjun Reddy kind of guy. Like, he gets into fights. And he, you know, he's like, he can't see an injustice. And he deals with it his own way. And that he clashes with his dad.

[00:30:21] They've got like a little bit of a Shakti vibe going on. You know? Like that kind of thing. Like, oh, my dad only, you know, focuses on the law. And he doesn't care about me kind of thing. When Madhuri gets kidnapped, he's the one that goes and saves her. And then he decides to infiltrate Amrish Puri's gang. And then, you know, take it from inside. While on the same side, Sangeeta is also having her quest to, you know, avenge her brother.

[00:30:53] I keep telling you the plot. And I feel so ridiculous saying these words. But she's also being aided by Shikhar Suman. The worst-timed reporter of all time. Yeah. He is the manifestation of WikiLeaks, basically. Like, he's leaking all the news. And you leak a wrong person.

[00:31:24] Yeah. And Sharad Saxena is just around the corner, listening to everything. And he's just like, But Commissioner, I'll tell you tomorrow. I'll tell you tomorrow. Not today. So, you sleep in a hurry. Today, you sleep in a hurry. I'll tell you. All of the story, all of the revelations in this movie are somebody's standing behind the corner and hears them talk. And they all talk very loudly. There's no codes. They know nothing like that. And Shikhar Suman is the one.

[00:31:52] Also, watching it, I was like, man, Shikhar Suman is a terrible actor. I didn't remember this either. The only thing I remember him from is Deek by Deek and his talk show. Those are the two things I remember him from. But watching him in this, he was like, oh, he's horrible in this. Like, he's really, really bad. Speaking of people hiding behind curtains, there's a particular scene where Nasiruddin hears his Razamurat talking to people about arms dealing. And then he goes to Sonam and sort of reveals everything.

[00:32:20] And Sonam's like, no, you're jealous. I'm engaged to somebody else now. So, you are just making shit up against them. I was like, what is happening? And Nasiruddin just happened to walk into the living room and just, you know, here behind the curtains. I do like that, the transition, because he's supposed to be Sonam's bodyguard. So, at the start, he's like, you know, like, he's got the whole pagadi on and he's got like a walking stick. And then later on, he's dressed like Don Johnson in Miami Vice, you know.

[00:32:51] White suits and pastels, sleeves up, you know, like that kind of like Chandler being in Friends, you know. It's really, really cool. Yeah. So, that's going on. And they also suddenly fall in love, which I was like, when did this happen? Yeah. That whole gali-gali mein pherta hun, jas tera pyaare hai ik sone ka chidiya. The whole thing, like, when did that happen?

[00:33:20] Like, mein toh aazad panchi mein urna chahta hun and all of that. Like, when did Sangeeta, like, confess our love? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it's like, you know, like, he literally joins the gang three minutes ago. Sangeeta is immediately like, you know. When you think about it, if you were in a guest hang with Amrish Puri, you know, Dan Danoa and Tej Sapru,

[00:33:48] and then Jackie Shnoff walks in from the 80s, who are you going to choose? Sure. True, true, true. Yeah. But what is Sangeeta's job? What is she doing there? Like, I want to... She's the featured entertainment. She's like the lounge singer. In their lair. She's a lair lounge singer. She's a lair singer. Her job is beach. Because she's also giving advice to Amrish Puri. She's like, yeh anjana jo dushman paida hoge. You know, that kind of thing.

[00:34:18] She's also giving, like, strategic advice to him. So I was like, what's going on? But then later on, there's the scene. They have the thing. And then Mr. Don, the deep tile, wants to, like, you know, have her ways with her. And she's, like, not having it, you know? Because she's, like, you know, a traditional girl, obviously. So I was like, what's the job? Like, what's the job description here exactly? Yeah. But it also just made me think of this, like, this is completely out of... By the way, guys, I'm fasting. And there's a big chance this movie might break my fast.

[00:34:48] Like, Rosa Thornigi movie. Not only Rosa Thornigi, but, like, Asen's going to be driven to drink by the end of all. But I was like, you know, like, there's this idea of having one woman dance around you and you have, like, 7,000 men around. Yeah. It's just such a weird thing. Like, what are we doing here? Like, what is... What are you getting out of this? Like... This is what happened when there was no internet, basically. Yeah. It's just...

[00:35:18] Like, when you were talking about Naseer Dinsha in, you know, Tirchi Topiwali, I was like, what is the modern-day equivalent? It's probably Pankaj Tripathi in Aaj Ki Raat. You know? Yeah. That's the kind of equivalent. And that also had the one woman surrounded by 7,000 men vibe. Which is, like, yeah, it's such a weird thing. Like, because she's, like, in the arms of one guy. Then she's in the arm of the son. Then in the arms... Like, what's going on? What is the end goal here?

[00:35:48] Like, I don't know. Scaring is scaring, I guess. Yeah. It's just a weird thought I had, which I was... It's a movie produced by Gulshan, directed by Rajiv, right? It's a family affair. Through and through, you know? It's a family affair. Yes. And then we have the main Tridev. I think the top of the Tridev, right? Like, these are the side prongs. This is the main prong. This is Sunny Deval and Madhuri Dixit in this.

[00:36:16] Watching Madhuri Dixit in this, I thought, this is what Deepika was in Houseful 1. Do you remember Deepika was in Houseful 1? Does anybody still remember that? No. Yeah. So nobody remembers that Madhuri was in Tridev. And you know that this woman is way better than everybody. She's way beyond everything else. She's the best here. And she is just slumming it in this movie. Exactly like Deepika was in Houseful 1 too, you know? Yeah.

[00:36:46] I had specific notes about it saying, I can't believe Madhuri... They made Madhuri on the same level as Sangeetha Vizlani and Sonam in that Gajar Nekia Hai Ishara song. Like, they are all at the same level entertaining, you know, as item girls. It's insane. Like, how much of a flower pot role is this? Like, unwritten. Like, I don't know when the dialogues were written or not.

[00:37:15] And they just let Madhuri rip. So, apparently, this movie was... She signed this before Tehzaab. So she had not... Like, Tehzaab had not released. And then Tehzaab released. And then the last song, Gajar Nekia Hai Ishara, they changed the routine and put Madhuri in front. Right. Sonam was supposed to be front first. And Madhuri is, like, immediately 100 times better dancer than everybody.

[00:37:43] And I was, like, looking at her and he's, like, yeah, she's in a lair. She's been kidnapped. But she's kind of having fun dancing, you know? It's like Madhuri. Yeah. She's just, like, lost herself in the dance. She's having a fun time, you know? Yeah. So, she's, like, the very, like, traditional kind of girl, right? Like, she has an arranged marriage with Sunny Deval. They're immediately in love. And Sunny Deval has a lot of anger in this movie. He's, like, been angry from the start to the end, pretty much. Right? Yeah.

[00:38:13] What do you think of Sunny Deval in this movie, Amrita? I hate Sunny Deval. Like, I'm, like, or, like, this era of Sunny Deval. Peter Shudkan will have a word with you, Amrita. What do you mean by you don't hate Sunny Deval? Like, I, like, the 80s were probably his best decade. I think, like, he did, like, a lot of stuff in the 80s that were, like, that were legitimately good.

[00:38:43] Like, I've said this before, you know, about Sunny. And most people don't agree. But that's another story. But this is not one of those things. Like, he's not, like, it's a very, like, you know, it's a very routine character, which is sort of Rajiv Rai's speciality, to be honest. Yeah. So, he's not, and he doesn't have the campiness of Nasir Adin Shah.

[00:39:12] Because, you know, like, we spoke about, like, Nasir Adin Shah being, that character being somewhat of a nothing burger. But Nasir is, like, a good enough actor to be able to pitch himself to a point where he is memorable. You know? And, like I said, Jackie and Sangeeta were just beautiful people. And they had all that glamour going for them. Oh, for sure. So well dressed. Like, they were, like, all of their looks were, like, looking, you know?

[00:39:42] Yeah. Like, they were, like, this is a cool jacket. Like, Jackie had this, he was wearing this dupatta from Madhu. Like, a pop of color. Like, I was like, this is a look, man. I remember that dupatta. Like, I haven't seen this movie since it came out. And I remember that dupatta and, like, that. And that also that it was, you know, his sister's dupatta that he's wearing around his neck. Like, that was just that little oomph, you know? And I feel like that was, like, a Jackie Shroff touch. Like, he decided to do this on his own. And it looked really cool.

[00:40:11] He had these cut-off gloves that he was wearing on this military jacket. I was like, this is actually really cool. Like, he looks good. Sadly, he carries now a pot of clant everywhere. The Jackie touch. But both Madhuri and Sunny were just so pika in this. Like, they're so boring. Right. Even the parts where Sunny Duel is, like, angry and, like, yelling. And why is he angry, first of all?

[00:40:41] Like, I don't understand. Why is he angry? His father died. I mean, later on, I understand. But why is he angry before that? You know, where he's telling people that their sister's going to end up becoming a prostitute. Like, why? 10 rupee prostitute. At least my price also, you know. But what did you guys think of Sunny Baji? I thought, honestly, like, I think nobody was convinced this movie will work, it feels like.

[00:41:10] It feels like they were not... Like, you've seen Sunny Duel. He can act. He's done better movies before this. Here, he's, like, almost like in a high school play. You know, like, back in the day, you used to have these mohrats where they would have just, you know, Naryal and then one dialogue of the movie. And they don't know what the movie is yet. So, they just kind of freestyle it on stage. That's the level of acting Sunny Duel is bringing to it. Like, it's really, really odd that...

[00:41:37] So, it's like the whole question of talent then of Rajiv, right? To put and stage a movie all together coherently. It's pretty much that. That it's a sequence of scenes that don't make any sense. Like, if you separate them, it just feels like it falls apart altogether. But somehow, it's a super hit movie that they made miraculously, you know. And sometimes it works, sometimes it totally doesn't, you know.

[00:42:05] I think we can break down why this movie worked, though. Because there's a few elements. A, the music, first of all. Like, we can, you know, we'll talk about the individual songs later on. But I think music, I think the pacing. I think it goes really, really quickly, even though it's two hours, 50 minutes long. It's non-stop. Yeah, it's non-stop. You go one thing, it's really, really fast-paced. I think the other thing we do, and you mentioned this earlier. This is Gulshan Rai producing his son's movie.

[00:42:35] They spend a buttload of money. You can see that they spent a lot of money. They brought in a lot of, like, the explosions that they have. It's, like, massive-scale explosions that they kind of put in, you know. And very dangerous. Like, there's a moment where both, in one scene, Sunny Devul is walking away from explosions, as the cool guy does.

[00:42:57] And there's another explosion where, in the climax, everybody's throwing hand grenades to Amrishpuri's lair. And Amrishpuri is running for his life. Yeah. Yeah, while explosions are going around. And both Sunny Devul and Amrishpuri are scared for their lives. You can see it in their eyes that the explosions are way too big. But also, a lot of the shots that they've taken, I feel, you know, that's...

[00:43:23] I talked about that scene where Sangeetha Bhatjani sees Jackie Shaw for the first time. And you see her lips, which is, like, a very 80s lipstick design. Amrita, you might know this more, but that's what it feels like to me. And then you have, like, superimposed Jackie kind of coming in. And then they also have this sequence where they're, like, looking at the face. And you see the face in close-up. And they're in the background. And all of these things that, like, yeah, that's quite cool.

[00:43:52] Like, cool shots, like, for the 80s, you know. Like, it's very basic when you look at it now. But I think for that time, it just felt very, very fresh. So, I think that's probably... And also, just the fact of having all of these actors together. I think that's, like, the multi-starrer was a big thing in the 80s, which kind of died down in the 90s. Because you had proper stars like Salman Shahrokh and, you know, Amir that could just carry the movie on their own, which is insane. Like, here you had to bring in three people.

[00:44:22] Or six people. Yeah, six people. Yeah. So, I think those are probably the elements of why that is. We do need to break down Sunny's story a little bit, though. Because I think a lot is going on here, right? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yes. First of all, he gets framed for... by lawyers, basically. By a judge. By his own dad, right? So, which is, again, very Mary Jung-coded. We have...

[00:44:50] His dad is the judge and he's getting sentenced. I was like, there's no, like, you know, conflict of interest here. He's judging his own son. But, yeah, the lawyer who's played by... Who is the lawyer? It's the guy from... Right. Right. Yeah. He clearly comes from the Thakral school of law. Yeah. Just makes up stories. And Sunny is very, very dumb.

[00:45:15] Like, he has no arguments for these elaborate lies that are being told in court. He gets basically sent to the same village where all of this thing happened with Nasir Shah back in the day. And then he... They murder him, basically, right? Yeah. Who? Well, the bad guys, basically, murder him. Don... Before that, they kill his father, the judge, and frame it as a suicide.

[00:45:44] And he's like, oh, my God, my father died out of guilt and everything like that. Yeah. Because, again, not the brightest bulb in the box. No. He's very dumb. He's very dumb. And also, like, I find it hilarious because he has this nightmare in his bed. Like, you know. And I was like, I don't know if it's a nightmare or he just has really dirty sheets. And he's like, are you, you know. Then he wakes up and his hands are tied. And there's Dalit Tahil sat in front.

[00:46:13] Dalit Tahil, Dandanoa, Jackie Shroff are all there. And imagine, like, there is a moment where you're thinking, what are they planning to do with me? Yeah. There is this reel that I don't know if you guys have seen. But there's this Bombay influencer called Bansha. And he had this reel on his account, which is called, like, unexpected male sexual tension. Where it's just these two guys on, like, a Bombay local.

[00:46:43] And they're just sort of, like, cuddled up against each other. And they're just like, oh, my God. It's very big. It's very big. And then the camera pans out. It's just the two of them in an empty compartment. And I feel like this movie is full of that. It's just, like, a whole bunch of men sort of, like, luring at each other. In these very strange and exotic locations and situations. Yeah.

[00:47:09] So then they decide to burn his house. And they're, like, spreading the kerosene everywhere. They are so undisciplined. It felt like that scene in, you know, Zoolander. Where they, like, jitterbug. Kerosene everywhere. And then they just light it up. And then Jackie Shroff, obviously, because he's playing both sides. He throws a knife at him. Said Sunny Deol. But he throws it too far.

[00:47:39] And Sunny's like, I need help here. Yeah. Obviously, even I was confused there. This moment. Wait. Is he torturing him? That the knife is... You can't reach the... ...toting him, like, just before his death. Yeah. So then he dies. And Madhuri's in shock. Yeah. So then he comes up, like, you know, like, in his movie Narsama. He kind of breaks it from the thing again. And he's standing there. Damn, what a reference, Asim.

[00:48:08] And then, for the rest of the movie. He wears a fake mustache. And nobody recognizes him. Nobody recognizes him. Not even his best friend Nasiruddin Cha. It is the most low-effort disguise that... At one point, like, Nasir is sitting right next to him because he's pretending to be a cab driver.

[00:48:32] And the way that he escapes detection is by throwing up his elbow over his face. Yeah. He just goes like that. Like, that's... If you got into a cab and the driver just put his entire arm over his eyes, what would you feel? No. And the two things, funny part about the mustache is, A, why didn't he go for a beard? Like, why stop at the mustache? First of all.

[00:49:02] Because the rest of the movie, all three heroes have mustaches. That just looks weird. But then, after everybody knows that he's Sunny Deol, he still wears the mustache. It's like... I like this look now. This is me. You know? My uncle used to call this the Sharminda Mooch. Like, the Mooch is Sharminda and you're Sharminda because this is your Mooch.

[00:49:34] Okay. I thought you did something that you have to be, you know, Sharmnak about. That's why you are wearing the Sharminda mustache. It was hilarious, man. I just... I couldn't with that mustache, man. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, he exacts his revenge at the end, basically. That's basically the story. Or how much we can kind of, like, rein in what the story is about. Yeah. Let's talk a bit about the music here.

[00:50:03] We talked a bit about, you know, like... Tirsitopiwale. Yeah. Like, this movie was such a big... This song was such a big hit. I didn't remember that this had a male verse in it. Like, I just remember the female version. Like, the female verse in it. I didn't remember there was, like, a Bibi Bholiwali in it, too. Yeah. Sung by Amit Kumar. Yeah. And there is a sad version as well. Which was hilarious, man.

[00:50:33] Isn't that hilarious? Like, because the sad version is great because it has my favorite trope. It's a party song where everybody is standing, two people are singing, and nobody knows what they're singing about. So much tension. So much gossip. And it's also just hilarious that they're doing a sad version of Tirsitopiwale. It's like, this is not a song that you can... It's like, what else can we do a sad version of... Can we do a sad version of Uchi Hai Building? You know? Can we do a sad version of...

[00:51:02] A sad version of... Hukkabar. You know? Like, how do you... And Sheila Ki Jawani. Yeah. I couldn't stop laughing. Tere hat kabina aani. Sad. It's so sad. Even Yunus Pervais is crying... Sorry. Yeah. He's crying in the background, right? Yeah. So sad. And they bring back Yunus Pervais in the climax as well. Yes. And he's wearing a fake police costume.

[00:51:32] To fool the people, I guess. But so many things about the villains. Like, you know, when they're murdering the politician right up in the beginning. And, you know, like... Is it... Who is it? Is it like Dan Danoa? Who's the cook? Who is it? Yes. Yes. He's the cook. Yeah.

[00:52:01] He impulsates us as the cook. And he... So he goes up and he, like, pretends to be this politician's cook. And then, like... He goes and he has this... Into the Superman booth. And, like, calls the house. Which... And then the politician picks up the phone. And the house, like, explodes. And I'm like, but you were the cook. And they were all eating your food. Why didn't you just poison them? They weren't eating his food. They absolutely loved his food.

[00:52:30] He's like, this is the best cook ever. He's like, Dan, you know... And he's been cooking for, like, weeks. Like... He's been making these amazing dishes and all. Yeah. You had, like, a perfect way to, like, murder these people. But then, no. Like, I'm going to put explosives everywhere. I'm gonna go out of the house. I'm gonna call them. I'm gonna... And I'm just like, why? Rajiv Rai loves an explosion, man. He just loves to explode things. I think that was literally the only reason to it.

[00:53:00] That scene was hilarious. That was hilarious. Come back to the music. Yeah, let's get back to the music. What's your favorite song? My favorite song is Main Teri Mohabat Mein. That's... It's a song I actually still listen to, to be honest. And I don't know if it's because Madhuri's in there. Probably, like, 90% of the time. I think it's a sweet song. I don't know. I like that song. I think, like, when Ghyal 2 was getting released, Sunny Deol made an appearance, you know,

[00:53:28] to promote the movie on Jhalakti Khlaja. And Madhuri was one of the judges. And they made them dance to, or sort of, slowly saunter to, like, Main Teri Mohabat Mein. It was so embarrassing. And Sunny Deol actually said, like, Movie promote karne ke liye kya kya karna pata hai. Oh my god. Oh my god. It was so bad. Yeah. There are worse things to do than dance with Madhuri, to be honest. Like, what are you on about, Sunny?

[00:53:57] And Sunny Deol dancing with Madhuri. But, I mean, there's not much dancing in that song, to be honest. They're mostly just walking. So, Amrita, what's your favorite? Yeah, I'd, like, I'd really, really like Main Teri Mohabat Mein. But I, for the longest time, I would just glaze right over that song. Like, this was the time of the cassettes and stuff. And I would just fast forward that song. Because when you were a kid, and there's, like, you know,

[00:54:25] Gajan ne kya hai ishara, and there's, you know, Gali gali mein pitta hai, and everything. That's what you're listening to. You're not, like, really listening to this song. And also, this song, I actually started liking much later. And I didn't know which movie it was from. I heard it, I think, maybe, on a T-series mixtape, or something like that, where they mix songs together. And then, and I was like, ah, this is actually a good song. And then I found it. And I was like, oh, it's from Tiri Dev. And I would not have known that if it was Madhuri in it, or it was Minakshi in it.

[00:54:55] Like, I would not have known, you know. Or, you know, Dimple. Could have been any of those. So, yeah. Yeah. So, I think my favorite is Gali gali mein pitta hai. Gali gali, yeah. It's so good. It's, like, such a good song. Like, I, like, everything about it, you know, like, the way that they shot it you know, there's, like, those superimposed images of Jackie and Sangeeta Bajalani and stuff.

[00:55:23] And I love the way that Sangeeta's fashion in this movie was, you know, a dream. Like, she was every inch the runway model. And she looked, she didn't look like anybody else on screen at the time. Yeah. The way she was dressed in this song and that hat with the, you know, like the, with the thing like in Gajanne Kya Hai Ishara and everything. It was all, like, so perfect. I, I loved the way that Sangeeta looked in this film.

[00:55:53] And, yeah, she was really, like, a real-life Barbie doll for me. And, Gali gali mein pitta hai was, A, it was really easy choreography because Sangeeta couldn't dance and neither couldn't chat. But it was also a really catchy beat. Yeah. But the other one, you know, like, Rat Bhar Jamse, that's also, and that's Alicia Chinoy. That's such a good song. Is that one of my first songs in Bollywood? I think so.

[00:56:23] I can't remember. No, I think Zubi Zubi has come by then. Oh, okay. So that was, like, long time ago. I just also just love the start of Gali gali. Like, when you have all the villains doing the shoulder dance, like, that's a meme, right? And it is, like, the best thing. Like, you know that you need to contact HR. This is not a safe place to work. Yeah. Even the soundtrack is, like, saying, kuch gharba hai, boss. And then,

[00:56:54] like, oh, tension's rising, man. My favorite is Gajarnekiya Hai, Shara. It's got Alka Ayagnik, Sadhana Sargam, and Sapna Mukherji all together. like, oh, eh, oh, tongue. It's like the Undertaker theme. Yeah, it is, it is. It's that. It's crazy. The thing I also like about this is that you get a lot of, like, Amrish Puri reaction shots in between. He's, like, winking and he's doing things. And then he gets a verse. He also gets

[00:57:24] to do his oh, eh, oh, eh, which is, the thing is, what I'm realizing more and more, we've watched now three back-to-back Amrish Puri movies, right? We've done Nagina, we've done Meri Jung, we've done, you know, three days. Amrish Puri just loves dance. He just enjoys it. He's a dance aficionado. Yeah. He just enjoys it, you know, he'll join in, he'll go to a concert, he'll watch it, you know, he'll watch like a sapir and, you know, that kind of thing.

[00:57:52] He hires Sangeeta Vijlani just for the sake of entertainment. department opened. Before Sangeeta, there was nothing like that in their lair. There was that, in the beginning, there was that girl, like, he just says Lakshmi and this girl shows up in a crop top and like, this is the most ill-fitting, like, unflattering crop top and skirt. And she's just standing there with her,

[00:58:21] with her hands, like, clasped, like an uncle-ji going for an evening walk while Don is trying, like, creepy things. And then, like, Sangeeta shows up and obviously, like, she's so much better than, like, all the other people around. He's like, I shall invest in the arts and, like, keep her here as the featured entertainment. Yeah, I was like, no, I don't want to say this. I was going to

[00:58:51] say something but it would be terrible to the actress playing that part. clearly, like, Abrish Puri has, like, a A-level maal and B-level maal and he's just, like, discounting stuff to Don, you know. We also have Sangeeta here. I also like that this is also the era where there is no subtlety to the lyrics. Like, the lyrics of Gajar are basically, y'all are about to get F'd basically. That's what the girls are singing. They're coming, the guys are coming, you're going to get F'd in the A.

[00:59:21] That's it. F'd in the A. I'm fasting, guys. I'm fasting. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. Yeah, this is, yeah, it's a wild movie, man. I have some random notes. Yeah, I want to hear your random notes. I have a few too, yeah. Okay, the worst bank heist mask ever, where they're just literally wearing the flimsiest stockings as their face mask.

[00:59:52] People get shot in the ass for comic reasons. Comedy purposes. It's the opposite of the bank heist in heat. You know, it's thunder. It's thunder. Or as we Indians are thunder. And only this is the point that Naseer recognizes Sunny, by the way. You know, like he's been seeing him like for the last 40 minutes and now he's like, oh, this is my friend. And then obviously the Unisperve is coming back as the

[01:00:21] fake police officer. In the climax, they have the grenades and they put it in actual wholesale. It's just random as crazy. The Amrish Puri running over the bridge, that crazy stunt with the explosion, perfect. They say Nesto Nabood a lot of times. And Sunny Deval

[01:00:51] loves to introduce himself as Pachana He says that like five, six times Pachana He left no mark. Yeah. At the end, once they are all being arrested, Naseer is like, take your medal of my father's It's like, Oprah Winfrey. I remember that scene so much. Like, you know, like,

[01:01:20] it's just like burnt into my memory that Naseer is just like, I've never found anyone who deserves my father's medals. But now I have found two other names to my name so we can be Thridev together. Yeah. They really pushing that name, by the way, you know, like, it's like a high school band like, call us this now, you know. Hamthi musketeers, that's basically. And then the whole reveal of that,

[01:01:50] you know, Jackie Shroff is actually the mole in their gang. It's basically a standoff light, everybody's pointing fingers, pointing guns at each other and Jackie Shroff is like, haha, I'll get you in the last one. I laughed so much in that one. Oh, dear. For me, it was the fact that Madhri Dishad is basically the worst character alive because she gets kidnapped

[01:02:20] twice by the same person. I'm like, how are you this bad at being alive? Also, her mom threatens, the only dialogue is like, I'm gonna commit suicide. Like, what? Which is accurate. Which is accurate for Desi moms to a certain degree. And then there's this scene where, you know, like, Sunny's

[01:02:49] character is being sent off to the, you know, his punishment posting or something because he's been proven a liar. And he basically doesn't even break up with Madhri himself. He just gives the ring to Anupam K. And it's just like, this is too much for me. And I'm like, what? And then Madhri comes and she's like, are you leaving? And he's like, yep. And she's like, but it's not that easy.

[01:03:19] Like, what kind of dialogues are these? But I also noticed that Madhri is the one who actually gets a line of dialogue in the climax, like post climax, when the police have finally arrived and, you know, everyone's got their little speeches. Madhri is the only one of the women to actually have a piece of dialogue, whereas everyone else, you know, just sort of stands around. Yeah.

[01:03:49] I had a few, I mean, this is like, these are the things that were in unintentionally funny bits. Like there were a lot of moments where I was watching it and I had to laugh really, really loudly in this movie. So here are my nominations for this. Yeah, the sad version of Tirchi Topiwale I've discussed this. Sunny's moustache, we've discussed this. Oh, yeah. So when Nasriddin Shah comes into the city, he finds Sonam because

[01:04:18] her wallet is getting stolen by a guy who's roller skating on bare naked feet. No shoes, no socks, bare feet. So Sunny Delewil's dad is a judge and everybody walks into his house. Abrishpuri is there, everybody is there, these walk in, Vijendra Ghatke is

[01:04:48] there, there's no security whatsoever. I thought that was hilarious. Nasir has a big ass Suryavanshi sword in the climax for no reason suddenly. Which I thought was hilarious. in the climax of Madhuri Dixit is throwing hand grenades in shalwar kameez. Which is so funny. She even pulls out the hair pin and you know Madhuri, when she does anything,

[01:05:18] she fully commits. And it looks like she's eating chikus. Exactly. It actually, those grenades could have been mangoes that they've just colored on top because the size looks very odd. It's coming in a tokiri. Also, the final reveal of Amrishpuri, right? He's gone to become Bhujang but for the final scene he's coming back as the avatar of Bhairav, Daku Bhairav. And he wears these bullet thingies for no reason.

[01:05:48] I had a note for that. I was like, why is Amrishpuri dressed as American Robin Hood? Because he's literally wearing the Sherwood Forest thing, wearing these brown leggings and a green tunic. But then he's got also two bullet things, like belts that are crisscrossing across his chest. And I'm just like, why? Why is he dressed like that? It's that Sean Connery look, right? Exactly. That's what I was googling which movie that was from.

[01:06:18] Because I couldn't figure out Zardoz. It's like Zardoz. He doesn't dress like that at all during the rest of the movie, by the way. It's only in the climate act. Yeah. He brought out his war gear basically. Like Rajiv Rai basically saw Zardoz the week before he shot that and he was like, costume department, do it. I did also learn something from this movie, a little thing about fashion,

[01:06:48] guys. So there's a sequence where it's so random, guys. So there's a sequence where he has his shirt tucked in, but the shirt is tucked in open. Like there's no buttons. They're all open and they're tucked in and he has a t-shirt and then overcoat over it. That is called the Ralph Lauren tuck. I did not know this. I thought I would convey this

[01:07:18] information about fashion to you guys. It's called the Ralph Lauren tuck. When you tuck in your shirt, the shirt is open basically and you can see the full t-shirt in it. So that's something that I learned by watching Thiridev. So it's not a total loss. I think that was a Jackie move rather than a Rajiv Rai move. 100%. Jackie Shroff, he was like, you know, he was grasping for, you know, he was fighting a war against Bhujang and male pattern

[01:07:47] baldness at this time. And he was compensating with, you know, pop of color and Ralph Lauren tuck. Yeah. He's so cool though, man. He's like the coolest. Out of all he's the coolest. Yeah. And he does like odd movement. I don't know about you guys, but he's odd. He's like the way he stands, the way he laughs, the way he's like doing things. It's weird, but it's so cool. Like, yeah. He breaks the pattern. He breaks the pattern. Yeah.

[01:08:17] He has like a weird off rhythm and it looks really cool. Like even that sequence where the final of Gali Gali Mein, suddenly she's in a big pinjara, like in a big, you know, a birdcage and he walks out of the birdcage and he lifts his hand like it's the breakfast club. And I was like, what's going on? It just looks cool. And he hangs. And then even in the freeze frame, because this movie ends like the most 80s thing. This movie ends in a freeze frame. Right. And Jackie looks the coolest.

[01:08:48] And like Sunny Dimal looks like an utter nerd. Naseer looks like he's in the wrong place. Jackie Shirov just owns it. Every frame, every freeze frame. he's the coolest ever. On that note. On that note. Amrita, any final words on 3D? Should people actually watch this movie? We haven't even discussed it. So, like, I know that you and Joy had a really tough time getting through this movie. But for me, like, this is what

[01:09:17] a lot of the 80s movies are like. And it's got enough to make you, you know, be interested in what comes next. Like, there's no, it's sort of like, you know, the Manmohan Desai philosophy of filmmaking, which is like, at screen peh kuch na kuch toh hona chahi hai. More is more. Yes. So, there's no point in the film where you think, oh, like, there's nothing happening or

[01:09:46] like, what might be happening might be ridiculous and it might be completely stupid or like enraging, but it is not, it's never, you know, just static. And that's basically what this type of cinema from the 80s is best out. They also, what's also interesting about Tridev is that Rajiv and I also like, refined this movie and remade it basically in Vishwatma, right? Like, three years later.

[01:10:17] Like, they're very, very similar movies, like, a lot of the same cast, like, Sat Samander is in that, you know, like, a massive, massive hit too. And, yeah, it's slightly elevated. I remember, like, they go to Kenya or something like that and they're all wearing mullets and stuff like that, you know, so they kind of use the same formula again. I don't know, do you like Vishwatma more or do you like Tridev more? I haven't watched Vishwatma in a long time, so I don't know the answer to that. I mean,

[01:10:46] after Kalia, I'm staying away from, you know, calling this my favorite or that my favorite. Sujai, final words on Tridev and should people watch it? I think people who are new to Bollywood find it very difficult to sit through this because it's so much randomness happening. People who grew up on the music and want to figure out if this was worth the time, take a chance on it. You might end up liking it maybe because

[01:11:16] of the whole nostalgia that is so correlated with the soundtrack and then there are some cool stuff happening. But overall, I don't think I can strongly recommend watching Tridev. I honestly think you should probably go watch Vishwatma instead than Tridev because I think he refined the formula a little better and I think although Vishwatma is 1992 so just not in the 80s but it's still very 80s coded. And I don't know about you guys but I

[01:11:46] enjoy like this like I'll watch a lot of like Hollywood 80s movies that are like not well made but you know they're of that era. I'm thinking like Cobra you know like I knew you would go about it or even like Heart what's that one Black Rain with Michael Douglas you know like these kind of like very like very much stylized of that era. They're not good necessarily but they're just like fun to watch. So I think

[01:12:15] in that sense Tridev does have those elements but it is three hours long man. It's just too long. Like I was really really struggling. I had to kind of pace myself. Also my sleep timings were off so I couldn't like you know commit to it that much but I planned it out correctly so the songs are really good but it's just that I think that the performances are also weak you know like there's a lot of like nonsense happening. I think Sunny Neville might be the weakest link in this because he has to kind of hold the movie

[01:12:45] together and I just don't think he's committed. There's a scene where he's like he needs to kind of like do a flying kick in the climax and you see him do the flying kick but then his eye goes down to see where the pad is and it's just like one of those little things where I was like it just takes me out where you're not fully committed to this you know. Shah Rukh would have backflipped into it you know. But also like Rajkumar Santoshi would have made that happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think yeah Rajkumar Santoshi is a much better

[01:13:15] director than Rajivar is for sure. I think Rajivar just comes with a lot of bells and whistles and I think a lot of combination just works much better than this. Yeah. Cool. Sujoy where can people find you online? You can find me on all my socials TikTok, Instagram,

[01:13:44] Twitter, Blue Sky at 93k. You can follow Khandan Podcast on all our socials at Khandan Podcast. We are uploading stuff on our YouTube channel so you can like, share, subscribe, do all the stuff that you do to support us. It's free. So if you like listening to us here you can also listen to us on YouTube and find our short form and long form content there on YouTube at Khandan Podcast. Amrita? You can find me on Blue Sky and on Twitter at Amrita IQ. I'm at Asim Bernie.

[01:14:14] Also drop us an email at upodcasting at gmail.com. What are you thinking of the AT series up until now? I'd love to hear like, somebody sent us a very long Twitter thread. I'm not that much on Twitter as much anymore but we are getting comments on Instagram and stuff like that. Would be good to get an email and get your thoughts about it because I do think we're five four movies in, five movies in, we have ten more to go. We might do like a little break in the middle and just like recap where we're at, you know? So I think at that time it would be good to just kind of read some email

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[01:15:14] Amrita is already dreading me watching that movie but yeah, I'm excited. Thank you for listening. I'm kind of timing it and maybe would this be our Eid episode then for Umrao Jaan? I think we need a better movie then. Let's see. Let's see. Anyway, guys, thank you for listening. Thanks for being part of Khandaan and we'll be back for the new episodes.

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