Ep 257- Kaho Naa Pyaar Hai - 25 YR Anniversary- Hritik Roshan Special

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[00:00:39] Every dollar goes towards creating more and better content. Visit us at patreon.com slash Khandaan Podcast. Hi, and welcome to a new episode of Khandaan Podcast. My name is Asim Burni and I'm joined with both of my lovely co-hosts Amritha and Sujoy. Hey, Amritha. Hey, Sujoy. Hey, everybody. Hello. Welcome to the Khandaan Podcast in a brand new year, everybody. Because Papu Charu does not count.

[00:01:09] Yeah, poor girl. I was going to thank her for filling in for Amritha. And you're like, she doesn't count. God, is this extreme? I love Yamini, but let's face it. This is Khandaan. This is Khandaan. You guys are so mean. I have to ask for the right to ask for your rights. I need my dignity. Yeah. Yeah. 20, 25 and nothing has changed. We're as petty as we usually are.

[00:01:41] No, no. Yamini, I love you. I love you too. I love you too. Yeah. I haven't still given her 10 pounds. I haven't got to meet her. She's been traveling all over her. You're running away, right? She's here. She's not far away. I know. Okay. Okay. This episode, we are doing our Kahuna Pyaar Hai special.

[00:02:08] Is it our Kahuna Pyaar Hai episode special or is it the Hritik Roshan special? It's kind of both, right? No? Yeah. I mean, you can't, you know, differentiate between the two, right? Yeah. So this movie, massive, massive hit released 25 years ago and it basically changed the landscape of Hindi cinema and it altered the brain chemistry of, you know, 70% of the people watching Hindi

[00:02:33] cinema. So I feel it's deserved that it gets its special. And also when I was just going through our shows, you know, doing research and stuff, we've not talked that much about the Hritik Roshan, I have to say, you know, we've done war, we've done, we've done Kabi Kushi Kabi Gam, but that's it, right? We've not talked that much about him, have we? Well, there is not much overlap between the Khans and Hritik Ai as well, right? Yeah.

[00:03:01] Other than those movies. So I guess we didn't get a chance to talk about Hritik Roshan on the podcast. And also his movies or his career goes really like up and down for me. Like, you know, like there's a lot of the like super 30 we didn't cover, you know, like there's a lot of these movies that we, like Vikram Beda was a disappointment. I did see it, but I don't remember if you talked about it. We did. We did. But yeah, Fighter we skipped, right? So yeah. I watched it, but I don't remember. I think I did talk about it.

[00:03:30] Yeah, it was one of your biggest disappointments. Yes. Yeah, that's what he talked about. So yeah, Kahuna Pyar Hai, it's gotten a re-release in theaters, not in the UK though. I've not seen it in UK theaters, but in India, I've seen people very happy about it, dancing with Hritik and stuff like that. So we watched it. And yeah, let's get into our show. Shall we? I was thinking like because of Hritik, should we

[00:03:56] do maybe first our top Hritik movies, like just to kind of get the ball rolling. Have you guys thought of that? What is your Hritik ranking? Sujo, you want to go first? Did you rank? You probably didn't rank. You really? No. I was like, what are you? Asim talked about this three weeks ago in the chat. I haven't done shit about it. I'm just going through. I was just about to call you out for like dropping things on us without any warning. And then you

[00:04:22] were like, it's in the chat. And I was like, oh, I was traveling. I don't remember. I have receipts. I have screenshots. I'm just blabbing now to give, you know, Sujo some time to go to IMDB. Should I give you my top ranking? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give you, buy some more time for you. Non-prepared backbenchers. Are we giving five? Yeah, I had five. So I mean, give how many you want, but I had prepared. So since now.

[00:04:50] I think top tier Hritik for me, like number one, like straight out of my head, I didn't even have to look, but I have to think about the others. Number one is Agnipath for me. Deservedly so in my mind. Number two would be War, I think. It brought back him as, you know, gray hair daddy, sort of a vibe, the resurgence of his sort of older guy sexiness,

[00:05:16] I suppose, and also introduction into the spy universe. Then I'm struggling. Probably number three would be Kahona Pyaar Hai in a way. You really loved it. Like you were texting, like watching it is like, oh my God, I miss this cinema. Yeah, I'm lost after this. Top three. You're stopping at top three.

[00:05:42] Maybe like Lakshya, Krish or Mission Kashmir, probably one of those, but not sure. Amrita, did you, do you have a ranking in your mind? Like these are my tops? No? Okay. These are mine. Okay. Okay. Number five, I've got Zindagi Na Milegi Dubara. Number four, I've got War. Two, I've got, wait, what did I do? Mr. A-3.

[00:06:09] I have five, but I wanted to kind of, because I respect it more than it deserves to be on the ranking. It's actually Kites. Okay. Because I respect it for what they were trying to do. You know, making like this a Hollywood movie with an actress that, you know, blew up his marriage and like Anurag Basu and Kangana and like do it in two languages.

[00:06:34] So it was like a, like a whole, like it was not the right director, not the right thing, but I kind of respect what they were trying to do at that time where there was a moment where if somebody can cross over, it might be Hrithik, right? Yeah. Amrita, you have thoughts? Yeah. I mean, like, it's funny as you were talking, I was just lamenting once again that

[00:06:54] we don't have, you know, like oral retellings or like oral histories of what happens on set because I bet the story of Kites is epic, like way better than the movie. It truly is. It truly is. And I think maybe we should be the ones doing these oral retellings. I can bet my ass on it. The Russians will not cover the Kites. Yeah, they will not be covering it.

[00:07:24] Probably in the documentary, it never really happened. It's a fever dream. Like who wants to go down the lane of Kangana and Navajo in directions, right? Yeah. Yeah. So five was actually Kites. Then Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara. Although Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara, although it's not his solo movie, but go. Then War, Jodh Akbar on number two, and then Agnipat on number one. That's my ranking. I feel a lot of people would put Guzarish there. They would put Super 30 there.

[00:07:53] They would would Kabul there maybe even. But those are not my picks. I actually don't even like the Krish movies that much. Like, not like I think for me, like the last Krish, the Krish three weird numbering, but I quite enjoyed it. Like it was, it felt like they were really riffing off the superhero genre that was going on. Like the Avengers were coming out at the same time.

[00:08:19] And they were like, we really need to push some things. And I think they pulled it off to some extent, obviously, you know, budget constraints and all of that, you know, put aside. I think they really played into it. I quite enjoyed it as a movie. Not as much, like I didn't enjoy Koi Milga as much. Oh, the first Krish. I really did. Yeah, I really liked Koi Milga. And even over Krish, I would have put Doom 2, for example.

[00:08:48] Like that, I like that slightly more, but that's kind of my ranking on. Any, any, would you change it? You're not such a big Agnipat fan, right? Like, is this a boys movie, Amrita? Like this is like too much. I think so. I think so. I liked it. It's not that I didn't like it. But Agnipat is always going to be an Amitabh Bachchan movie for me.

[00:09:12] It's as simple as that. And I appreciate Hrithik in it. I didn't think that he was bad or anything. And Sanjay Dutt was definitely, and Sanjay Dutt and Rishi Kapoor and like all of them were really great as a Adriyanka Chopra. Like great as a support cast. Yeah. And in that one song, she was amazing. Chikri Chambiri, man. Yeah. Talking about altering brain chemistry.

[00:09:43] And that was a swing for Katrina. Like she had never looked at that before, you know, like that was, that was quite something. But yeah, for me, like the original Agnipat, which is a mess, by the way. Yeah, it is a mess. It's a huge mess. Racist also. Oh my God. Like all of it is just like weird, but it's, it's Amitabh Bachchan weird. You know, Amitabh Bachchan in the 80s weird. Danny Dinzongpa, by the way. Yeah.

[00:10:11] You look so hot in that movie. Like it's crazy. So yeah, for me, like that's the, the superior Agnipat, despite all evidence to the contrary. And, but like Hrithik, I, I don't think I fangirled Hrithik in a hot minute. Maybe in war, but war was kind of camp. Yeah.

[00:10:36] You know, like that whole angle with Tiger Shroff being like a baby bird looking for mama bird Hrithik. The whole thing, like, I don't think I was obsessed with it the way that say I was obsessed with Jodha Akbar or Kahuna Piaar Hai. Or even like Zindagi Na Milegi Dobaara. You know, like these were all like really great Hrithik performances and like really great Hrithik movies. Yeah.

[00:11:05] Um, I personally don't think he was very well cast as Akbar. Um, like his Urdu is a little bit self-conscious in South Bombay for it to actually land. Uh, but I still enjoyed the movie. You know, it was like probably the last Ashutosh Gawadikar movie that was actually any good. Um, yeah, I don't, I don't know if I have a definitive Hrithik ranking or even a Hrithik

[00:11:34] movie that I keep going back to. What are your thoughts on Guzarish? I have only seen it once. Like I respect it. I don't like it. That's like, yeah, it's the thing is that I don't really respect it. To be very honest. Uh, it is, uh, cause you know, like there are some movies that they make it and you know, it has these, um, these highfalutin principles, right?

[00:12:02] Like it is a, it is a mission movie. It's, it wants to say something, but it is so naked in its desire for validation and for bouquets that it sort of strips away the, the cinema aspect of that film for me. So when I'm watching it, I'm kind of watching a project or a thesis. I'm not watching cinema.

[00:12:30] And that's what Guzarish feels like to me because I should love it because it's a, it's a great Aishwarya performance. It's a great Hrithik performance. They're both pulling out all their stops. Um, you can see that both of them at that point were really trying to make their mark as actors. Um, and people were being very unkind to them at that point as well, I think.

[00:12:57] Uh, and talking about how, you know, they're pretty faces, but not, they're not really actors, blah, blah, blah. And that had been going on for a while. And I think they really wanted to prove people wrong with it. So there was a lot of things happening. And, but I don't know if Sanjay Leela Bansali is the director who I would entrust with making a recent argument for euthanasia.

[00:13:23] Like, that's not, that's not what Bansali is about. And every time he does things like that, like what he did with Black, for instance, which a lot of people love, right? And they're just like, oh, what a movie. And I thought it was a horrendous movie when I watched Black. Like, it was just, again, it was just naked in its need to be more than it actually is.

[00:13:49] So, um, Guzarish, excellent, uh, performances, but, um, I don't, I don't know if I like the movie. Yeah. Yeah. I remember it was also like, um, a remake, right? Of a Pedro Almovedar movie, if I'm not mistaken. Beyond the Sea or something. I don't know what it was called, but, uh. Javier Bardem. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah.

[00:14:14] I would like to quickly mention one small role that Hrithik did as a cameo in Luck by Chance as the superstar Zafar Khan. And that, that's probably one of my favorites. Like, he really, um, you know, plays that role really well being the superstar that he actually is, but also navigating through, you know, all the politics within the system,

[00:14:37] trying to negotiate with, uh, Sanjay Kapoor as the, uh, NEPO director, Bhai, and, but also being enamored by the life that he lives. You know, that particular scene where he interacts with the kids on the street. That's such a beautiful scene. And also that party conversation that he has with Karan Johar when he sees Farhan for the first time. Yeah. I love that. Um, okay. Because you mentioned superstar. I think this is also a good conversation.

[00:15:07] Um, where I think when he started, he was the, he was going to take over Shah Rukh. That was what the, the byline media byline for Hrithik Roshan was clearly that's not happened. Like not even close. I would say. Right. Um, where do you feel he stands? Like his legacy at 51, 52, whatever he is, he's really like at, like, he's feels like

[00:15:34] he's at the end, like not end of his career, but like reaching like a phase where he's like calming down a little bit. Like he's really like the gray hairs are out, you know, like it's really like old man Hrithik already, which I find so surprising when Shah Rukh is not in that era either. Right. Like he's embracing the gray more than every anybody, but where do you think he lands? Is he like number six? Is he number eight? Number 10. Where is he? He's definitely in the middle. I think. Hmm.

[00:16:01] Uh, you can't, uh, you can't count him out any more than you can. Who's above him and who's slightly below him? Let's do it this way. Like if, if we can, right? The three cramps are definitely above him. A hundred percent. Ranbir is above him. Ranbir? Ooh. Ranbir is above him. Okay. Uh, Shahid is below. Mm-hmm. I would agree. Ajay and Akshay are below, I think. Yes. Yes. You think? Yes.

[00:16:27] Like in terms of people going to watch a Hritik movie, the pull for that versus going to watch an Ajay or an Akshay movie right now? I think so. For sure. Yeah. Because war has kind of brought that back. Um, can I just say, I feel you guys a lot of times are very negative toward Ajay Devgan in general. Says the man.

[00:16:52] I just want to point out that Akshay didn't even go watch that movie that he did with Tabu after being all like, oh my God, Ajay Devgan, Ajay Devgan, Tabu. Oh my God. I love Tabu. Yeah. Yeah. It's only because you told me that they're barely in it. Like, you know? Oh, now it's my fault. It is your fault. I can pass him with his great love. No, but I'm saying like, like he's like, you are, you don't know how big of a hit Shaitan was last year.

[00:17:20] Like he is still delivering like Akshay, we can say he goes up and down. Like Akshay goes up and down at the moment. He's slightly down, right? He'll come back 100%. Slightly down. Yeah. Consider a movie like Vikram Veda, right? Yeah. The moment it was, you know, announced. There's a buzz. Yeah. There is a buzz for sure. Like compared that to an Ajay movie gets announced because Ajay makes like 19 movies a year. Akshay also makes 19 movies a year.

[00:17:49] Hrithik movies are almost feels like a, you know, a special event in a way because he doesn't make that many. Because Ajay's movies work when they're good. Hrithik movies open. And I think that's the difference, right? Because I was about to say like, you know, it's more instructive to look at the movies that didn't work for these people. Rather than the movies that have worked. And that is also how I look at the Khans. I look at the movies of theirs that are like absolute turns.

[00:18:18] And then I see how they open. Like there was no way that, you know, Sotan Khabi Saheli could have made those numbers if anyone else had made it. Yeah. But because it was Salman, it opened to a certain number. And the same thing happened. Salman has been on such a bad run and there is not a conversation that he's not a superstar. Yeah. You know, there is nothing denying that. Amir still, there's a conversation happening that he's not where he was.

[00:18:47] He's literally just done two underwhelming movies, you know. And it's like he's lost everything he had, right? Like he's like just begging people to watch his son's movie now, which is insane to me. Salman, there is no doubt. He's like, it's turd after turd. But there's no doubt, right? Shah Rukh, even there was a bit of doubt, I feel. It's weird, like these kind of things. So, yeah. Yeah. And fighter, if you look at it, like it was a big flop.

[00:19:16] No, it made a lot of money. But it made a lot of money. A lot of money, yeah. So, I definitely think like Ritik is above Ajay and Akshay. I think he's definitely above Ranveer. Right, yeah. I think. So, you're saying number five, basically. I would say number five. He's number five. So, above him are the three Khans and? Ranveer. Ranveer. Okay. I'm happy with that. I can live with that. Yeah, I can. I can. Yeah, I think.

[00:19:44] I mean, I would like maybe put Ajay and Akshay above, but I also see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's get into the movie then, right? I don't have any other side topic that I had prepared. This was it. Let's get into Kahona Pyaar Hai. A movie, honestly, I have not seen since, I don't know. I don't, I'm not sure if I've seen it since. Since 2000. Might have. Yeah. I'm not. Yeah.

[00:20:13] So, I want to go to Sujoy first because you loved it. Your mind was going crazy. It's like what you needed. How was Kahona Pyaar Hai watching it last night? And what did it bring back from watching it the first time? Oh, man. This movie was such a phenomenon when it released. Like, I will never be able to do justice with my words to convey the amount of pop culture

[00:20:39] milestone that this movie is, you know, in a way for people of my generation growing up, you know, in my teens when this movie came out, the promotion cycle. Like, there was not a hero like this before him, in a way. It felt like the Khans came, but there wasn't like a debut movie with so much sure, like self-assuredness in a way.

[00:21:04] Like, he knew that he arrived even with the first movie and you could sense it. And like, yeah, the dancing, the muscles, the presence, all of that came back to me yesterday. Like, and obviously, like post-2000, everybody, even Hrithik, like even when he gets his Lifetime Achievement Award, he will have the Iqbal Kajina theme playing, right? So this is the movie that marks his career from the beginning to the end.

[00:21:34] This is the Alpha and the Omega for him, I think. And it's such a blast from the past for me because this movie is 25 years old. It marks a special place in my life when it came out. You know, I was still a teen and like, yeah, dancing to Iqbal Kajina everywhere I could go. You know, yeah, this was amazing, man.

[00:22:00] And yeah, all of that, like the innocence that I had and the naiveness that I had, all of that was marked by this movie. Like the worldview that this movie has. And I also like went back to thinking like, you know, I like for me, my first Rakesh Roshan movie was Khoon Barimang. And probably one of my earliest memories of watching any movie was Khoon Barimang.

[00:22:28] Not a child appropriate movie, by the way, but that's how I was raised. And, you know, sort of mirroring how that story structure, you know, is between Khoon Barimang, Kahuna Pyaar Hai, even Koilai or Karan Arjun. And how these story beats come back and play even in a romantic movie like this. And yeah, all of that, I was thinking out loud. And yeah, it's such an interesting movie to watch into 2025.

[00:22:58] What about you, Amrita? I was, I mean, I really enjoyed this movie, but I was just thinking about what Karan Johar said about K3G versus Dil Chaata Hai. And he said when he first saw DCH, he immediately knew that K3G was dated and it belonged to an earlier era. And as I was watching Kahuna Pyaar Hai,

[00:23:27] I was like, oh, this is the era, you know? Because there's so much about this movie that the way that it is structured, the storytelling, the dynamics between the characters, the dialogues, all of it is so classic 90s Bollywood. And it is so classic Rakesh Roshan.

[00:23:55] And you immediately know that you're watching a movie by a Bollywood veteran because the tropes are instant and instantly identifiable. You immediately know the beats of this movie and the characters. And you have all these little shorthands to explain who these characters are and what is important to them.

[00:24:22] Like, for example, the Farida Jalal and Tiku Talsaniya character. No, sorry, not Satisha. Satisha character. Who they are, they're like such a Bombay staple of a character. Yeah. The way that they have this relationship with these two kids and how that works. All of that, you know, it's such a, it's such a Bollywood movie.

[00:24:46] And I kind of was thinking about how this was probably the last of the great Bollywood Star Kid launches. You know, like we still have Star Kid launches, but we don't have this kind of a Star Kid launch. Raj Kapoor did it for Rishi Kapoor with Bobby. Rajendra Kumar did it for his son. Kumar Gaurav. Kumar Gaurav with Love Story.

[00:25:17] And, you know, but this particular one, I don't, I think this was probably the best of the Star Kid launched by their dad series. Because A, Rakesh Roshan really, really set up Hrithik for success. I don't know what else he could have done. Like he showed Hrithik.

[00:25:40] Because when you look at say Bobby or Love Story or even later, although Ranbir was officially launched by Bhan Sali and not by Rishi Kapoor. These young men who were launched, they're all sort of, you know, Bollywood twinks. You know, they just look at them. They're like beautiful chocolate boys. With Hrithik, it was very much here is a beautiful man. He can dance.

[00:26:09] He can charm the women. He can fight. He can ride cool bikes. He can do all the things that a leading man can do. And it was immediately he was launched into a tier, like you said, where he was seen as a threat to Shah Rukh, who had been working at that point for like about 10 years.

[00:26:35] And that kind of, you know, that kind of force behind a star kid. I don't think we've seen anything like that since. And also like, I'll just quickly go back to Lagpah Chant in the intro scene where Saurabh Shukla is teaching his acting class, right? And he's like, Bollywood me hero banne ke liye kya kya papad bilne padhte hai? You have to dance. You have to do the ghor sawari. You have to do action.

[00:27:03] And you have to deliver the lines with perfect diction. All of that is kahona piyar hai to me, right? It's like such a, that is a template of the Bollywood hero set in the new millennium by Hrithik Roshan. And like every star launch since kahona piyar hai has been trying to replicate that with various degrees of failures, you know? Yeah. Because like the Harman Baveja was launched this way. The Shahar Kapoor. Shahar Kapoor was launched this way.

[00:27:31] There were a few others like the Barmawala boys, they launched their kid like this. And there was another one. The Bios. Yeah. Harsh. There was a Harsh somewhere. Oh, Bhagishi's son. Yeah, they all were launched this way and none of them were able to capture what Hrithik did. And I think it's not just Hrithik being Hrithik. I think it's also Rakesh Roshan being Rakesh Roshan. Oh, for sure.

[00:27:55] And I think that is a factor that people don't talk about enough because afterwards, Hrithik wasn't able to find footing until again they had Rakesh Roshan update him with Koi Milgi. Like I'm not downplaying all of the other movies that he did that was successful. No, but those movies were stinkers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you had Kabhi Kushi Kabhi Ram, you had Mission Kashmir Fiza, but you see him dance in all of those movies.

[00:28:20] It's exactly what he's doing in Kahuna Pyar Hai, that lanky dancing that he does with the slightly popping and locking thing that he does. And there was no identity to him except Kahuna Pyar Hai. Yeah. Until a new identity was formed with Koi Milgi. And I think all of those other actors that got a launch to their dad or didn't get a launch to their dad if their dad was producing it, they never had a filmmaker that made a movie that was that much in touch with the culture of Zeitgeist.

[00:28:48] And I think also what Amrita, you're saying is that the Zeitgeist shifted straight after this movie. We came into new Bollywood and new Bollywood would not accept a Sunny Deval star launch anymore. And that's what happened to all of these other kids that came after the Harman Bavejas and stuff like that. That Hrithik kind of closed that chapter. Like this is kind of the perfected way of doing it. And there's nothing after this anymore. And that's why Ranbir had a very different launch. That's why even, you know, Sonam had a different launch.

[00:29:18] You know, these kind of people that are still kind of doing the Harshvardhan Kapoor, right? It's a very different launch than all of these others are getting. Where it's almost like now it's praised that my dad didn't launch me. Where Hrithik was like, my dad is launching me. It's a completely different discussion we're having, right? And watching Ka Ho Na Pyaar Hai really made me also just think of Rakish Rauchan as a filmmaker.

[00:29:45] Because he has that classic, no-nonsense filmmaking that, you know, a James Cameron has or a Ron Howard has. You know, there's no flourishes. There's no subtext. There's no themes, you know. It's just competent filmmaking, clear editing, song, romance, fight. Song, romance, fight. Interval, you know. And we kind of almost miss that level of clarity, right?

[00:30:13] We have, who do we have now that can do that? It's maybe Raju Hirani, maybe Rohit Shetty to a certain degree, Raja Mauli, you know, like, but even Raja Mauli, I feel he does have a lot of fantastical, like, ideas to his filmmaking, right? I don't think Rakish Rauchan has any of that. He's like, spend money. You know, that's how we do it. And yeah, it's very interesting because that's why I necessarily didn't like the Krish movies that much.

[00:30:43] Because at that time, we had seen all of MCU already or like the big MCU. And he was just giving us by the beats superhero action movie. And very competently made, very clear in its intent. But nothing more than that, right? And I feel that's what I was missing in Krish, for example. But it worked really well with Kahuna Pyahre. But I'll be honest, watching it last night, there was moments where I was just on my phone because I know what's going to happen. I know where we're leading to, right?

[00:31:12] And I'm not the on-the-phone guy. But it doesn't hit me the way at that time it hit for people in India, I think. But yeah, it's unbelievably competently made. We've spoken about Rakish. We've spoken about Hrithik. Let's talk about Amisha Patel. Amrita, your favorite topic, Amisha Patel. What went wrong with Amisha Patel's career here?

[00:31:40] Because I was watching her and she had everything going for her. Like, she has like, she looks amazing, great songs, amazing launch. You know, she has a jawline that can cut glass. Like, what happened? Like, you know, what happened? Like, do you have any ideas?

[00:32:00] She basically just played the same character that she plays in Kahuna Pyar Hai in pretty much every other movie that she did. And she played that character in exactly the same pitch as she plays that character here. As Sonia. Sonia. Yeah, that's so annoying. That was so... And it went on forever. Like, I didn't realize that it went on for like half an hour.

[00:32:29] She made a choice and she stuck to it. That's just how Kiwi people say it. She was the only Kiwi person there in the whole of New Zealand. But Sonia is, you know, like... Sonia is a very classic 80s heroine, actually. This is the kind of character that Neelam used to play in the 80s, you know? Or Farah, you know? And it is... Farah Tabu's sister, not Farah Khan.

[00:32:58] Yes, not Farah Khan. What are you all saying, ya? Guys, oh, sorry. Because we quickly talked about Farah Khan. Like, on autoplay on YouTube, there was an interview. Like, remember, like, Farah Khan used to do a talk show called Tere Beechmeh or something like that? Tere Mere Beechmeh. Yeah, and she had Hrithik on. And it's like a really awkward... Like, you understand why she's not a show host, like, anymore? Because we know Farah Khan, right?

[00:33:26] And she's trying to do a bit of coffee with Karan and a bit of that Aamir Khan show, Satya Me Vijati. And she brings on Hrithik to talk about his stammering problem. And it's such an uncomfortable... And she's like, ya, so who made fun of you, Hrithik? You know? And it's like, you did, Farah! It's so clear. Farah was the one bullying him. It's just a weird interview. I was like, ya, we really tried things back in the day, you know? Farah, by the way, has a cooking show now. Yeah, of course she does.

[00:33:56] Where she's bullying her cook, which is like, I can't watch that. She hosts MasterChef India right now. What? Yeah, on Sony. It's crazy. It's crazy. But anything to not make a movie. The Farah and Ahtar way of doing things, you know? But yeah, so going back to Amisha and Sonia, I think that's what basically happened. Like, this is a woman who didn't know how to act.

[00:34:26] And basically was very much a family and friends hire. It's literally a friends hire. Like, I didn't know how close the Hrithiks and the Patels were. And he was like... And the Patels. The Patels. And literally, he invited them to dinner. Like, I was invited... So, Kareena walked out. So, Kareena was the one that was... Yes. I'll come to Kareena in a second. But Kareena walked out of the movie for certain reasons.

[00:34:55] And according to Amisha, Rakish Roshan invited her and her mom for lunch. While she was just in a t-shirt and jeans, he offered her the role of, you know, Sonia. And I was like, man, this is nepotism. You go for lunch and you get the movie of your uncle that's launching his kid. Like, the clearest sense of, you know... So, that's how she got the role.

[00:35:21] So, coming to Kareena, I think the problem Amisha has is the problem that Abhishek had. Is that you get... As Abhishek, you have refugee. But you're getting launched with Hrithik Roshan in the same year. Who is just amazing. And Amisha is getting launched with Kareena Kapoor. At the same time. Who is doing, you know, Ahsoka. She's doing Chamelee. And, you know, Amisha has nothing.

[00:35:49] I think also... Oh, by the way, this is... I just thought of something. But... So, the character that Kareena was supposed to play in this movie is called Sonia. And then the big hit from K3G is You Are My Sonia. Which, obviously... So amazing. I choose to believe that Karin did that on purpose because he was a messy bitch. But, yeah.

[00:36:18] So, the reason why Kareena walked out of this movie, the certain reasons that Asim was talking about, is that the industry was very bullish about Abhishek Bachchan. And Abhishek Bachchan was debuting in this movie called Refugee, which was directed by J.P. Datta, who had just delivered some huge hits with Border and that other...

[00:36:47] What was the other military movie that I can't remember? No, L.O.C. came after Refugee. Oh, L.O.C. after came out. But he was a big screen, kind of subhaj guy kind of director, you know? And if I'm not mistaken, Rakesh Roshan's last movie before it was Koila, which was a misfire. Like, I don't think it lost money, but it definitely wasn't a hit. So, everybody was just like, well, you know, Karina,

[00:37:15] like, you should probably go with, like, the sure bet, which is Amitab Bachchan's son. That's why Karina walked out. And then once Kahona Piyar Ke became the biggest hit of the year. For some reason, Karina decided that she was going to take it all out on Amisha. And poor Amisha has not had a moment's peace since.

[00:37:43] To the point that 20 years later, when Amisha finally made her return to the big screen with... Gadar 2. Gadar 2. One of the big things that Amisha needed to talk about was about how Karina sort of total wished to her. It really was. She had, like, 20 years to come up with new things to talk about.

[00:38:12] But she was just like, you know what I'm going to talk about? I'm going to talk about how Karina was a bitch to me because she's still, like... I can't really imagine the ways in which Bebo made her life impossible. But that's what I mean. Imagine if you have an op in your life, but it's Bebo. How do you handle that? There's no way. So, yeah, I think what happened to Amisha is basically she's not the natural actor that Bebo is.

[00:38:42] And so she just sort of got pigeonholed as this... rich girl sort of a thing. And that's the only role that she still knows how to play. So I think that's what happened to her. Yeah. So, Kahuna Pyaar Hai, Massive Hair, like, one of the biggest hits of the year. I think with inflation, it actually does become the biggest hit of the year.

[00:39:10] Sujoy, what are the reasons that for you watching this movie, this became such a big hit? What are the key scenes, the key moments that are kind of like jumping out for you? So this is like a debut movie, which, you know, usually the debut movie is, you know, Soni Mahiwal or whatever, Kiamat Se Kiamat Tak. Love story. Right? Betab. Barsat.

[00:39:39] Kahuna Pyaar Hai chooses to introduce us, this lovely couple, but then the story and the direction goes in all sorts of directions. It is essentially the Rakesh Roshan thriller movie, which he has always, you know, incorporated in all his movies. And that is what is interesting, that this guy plays two different characters. Like, the Rohit is the meek one. He cannot defend himself for his life, but he still loves this girl. Right? And he's trying to be this musician, hotshot.

[00:40:08] And then we get to see Raj, the foreign return guy, with all the muscles. He can dance his ass off. And we get both of these in the same movie. And we, and as like, I did not expect this to happen in 2000. Like, none of these movies were doing that. You expect that from, like, he basically remade Karan Arjun in a way, but, you know, with just Hrithik playing both roles in a way. Right? So that was fantastic. Fantastic.

[00:40:38] I think, it also props to, uh, Honey Rani, who wrote the script alongside with, um, Rakesh Roshan. And, and like, they both are such veterans of the Bollywood way of storytelling. It just, you know, there is no wiggle room for boredom for me. Even watching this last night, it just felt like, this happened because this happened. This happened because this happened. And it goes, that flow proceeds. Like, the moment they land in Bombay,

[00:41:07] the shootout happens. There's no, you know, and then the mirror scenes and all of that. And, and even the reveal of Sergei is such Bollywood classic. Like, oh, Dalip Tahil's character has died. So, Anupam Khair is now free to go, but then that reveal happens. So it keeps on going, you know, it gives you that dopamine hit. I think even after so many years, you can see the, the craft in which, you know, it's clever filmmaking, you know, it's clever Bollywood filmmaking.

[00:41:36] And I think probably as a teen, I did not pick up on all of these things. I was just, you know, enamored by the storytelling of it. And it, it entertains you at every, you know, five minutes. Yeah. A whole,

[00:42:05] that era where a foreign return days, he was still considered cool. It's not the case anymore. Like now we're apparently dreams. Now we're back to being debus. but, but yeah, at that time, cause it's, it does play with our expectations of Bollywood convention, right? Like when you have a two hero role, either there is like, you know, they're twins. Either there's one is good. One is bad. Either one is like really adaptive.

[00:42:35] Depth street wise, you know, like Kishan Kanaya or Judoa. And then the other one is a good guy. Sorry. Don. Yeah. Yeah. Or, you know, or it is the same guy. It is the same guy that just kind of like, you know, it up and stuff like that. And that's what we've been conditioned to think is going to happen. But this movie actively pushes that narrative away that they are indeed different guys. And they're honestly not that dissimilar, right?

[00:43:03] Why does Amisha fall in love with Raj after a while? There's no necessary reason except that they just look the same. Right. It's not that he's a, like, apparently he's a more competent fighter, but there's no reason for that necessarily. Right. Like he, he's a skier. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know if you guys noticed, because I'd never noticed this before,

[00:43:29] but in the nightclub scene where they meet for the first time, and, uh, and this is like one of the fish, uh, the physical, uh, differentiations between the two characters, but Rohit was a very, um, you know, he's a boy next door, you know, he didn't, he, he didn't have like a body as such. Uh, and then in the nightclub scene, he's wearing those muscle tees. And not only is he wearing a muscle tees,

[00:43:59] but he's also like oiled up his four arms. So his muscles are like glistening and like randomly standing in the middle of the club with these, you know, uh, at like two in the afternoon. Yeah. Like full on day. And also it's like full on light in the club. There's like no darkness. It's like a kid's disco or something like that. You know, it's hilarious. The only difference that I've found is that, you know, Rohit doesn't wax his chest and Raj does wax his chest.

[00:44:28] That's apparently the thing, but that's the other thing that I'm also like, when I was watching this movie, like this whole idea of Greek God Hritik, right? How impressed we were. And I'm watching it now. And I was like, he's not that built. Like it's, it's fine. Like I get it. And he's presented in a certain way because of the oil on the biceps. And you know, if you're like, if, if the poster is you hanging in a pull-up stance, obviously your muscle, and every time he, you know,

[00:44:56] there's a moment where he holds something or he hangs on to something. He's flexing his bicep full on, you know? So obviously it does, but it's not like, I mean, well, that is, that is not, that is not a function of how this movie, like, I don't think the movie was like lying to us. I think that is a function of how the depiction of male bodies and masculinity has evolved over the past 20 years. Uh,

[00:45:23] because if you look at the first Wolverine versus like, you know, how Hugh Jackman does it in the last one, that those two bodies are like worlds apart. Like, that, like that is not what Hugh Jackman looked like. Yeah. That's like, like bang, bang versus, you know, like it's insane. Like he's, he looks like a roided up beast in the second one. Right. And that's what we, but in Kaona Pyaar Hai, he's like, he's a fine fit young guy. But like, we were like, even like, I think, you know,

[00:45:53] a lot of times we'll talk about Oh Oh Jaane Jaana as being the body at that time. But we look at it now and it's like, Varun is that like on a Tuesday. You know what I mean? Like, it's not that, like, it's such an evolution that that's happened. So, uh, yeah, they really present him really well for sure. Uh, and they make that separation, but honestly, there is not that much of, of a difference between, I think Ritik in his mind is making a lot of small changes. Like apparently one is left-handed.

[00:46:23] The other is right-handed. Apparently I read this in trivia. He walks differently. A hundred percent. There's a different swag to him. Um, there's moments where, uh, Raj is almost orange with the same self tan compared to, you know, um, and he's wearing those glasses, but, um, otherwise they're, they are essentially the same guy. And I guess that helps to say why Sonia just falls in love with him, uh, for no apparent reason, except, you know, that they look similar. Uh,

[00:46:53] also like he, he sort of saved Sonia's life and also took revenge for Rohit, even knowing that he had no stakes in it. Yeah. Yeah. He really had no stakes. Like he just like, yeah. Uh, yeah. And he also saves the little boy out of his trauma, right? Like with the face showers, uh, from face off. Uh, but yeah.

[00:47:19] And the other thing this then also allows the director to do is give his son two introductions in a movie, right? Which, Ikpal ka jeena is amazing, right? Like, like it's still like a banger of a song. Uh, and actually I found this, uh, very interesting on, Pulkit Cochers. Cause he, you know, he's an overthinker. He's doing this overthinking series, which I love on his Instagram. And he said that it was so smart because the previous critic,

[00:47:49] all of his songs are sung by the classic singers, Udet, Kumar and all that. And the new critic only gets lucky Ali, but those songs are bangers, like both of them. And it really differentiated that way to kind of a new era has come up. I thought that was an amazing point Pulkit made. And I hadn't thought of it this way, but then he comes back to sing Rohit songs in the end, in the concert. And that is sung by Babu Supriyo. Yeah. Yeah. That actually is one of the things that I've really noticed this time around,

[00:48:17] because the movie begins with Rohit imagining what that moment would feel like when he is having that dream. Yeah. He's like in the middle of the concert and everyone's going wild and he's singing his song. And in the, in the hands of a lesser filmmaker, that would have been the perfect way to intro Rohit, right? Like this is my son. I want everyone to think he's a rock star. I'm going to give him that. But what Rakesh does is that he waits. He makes that character,

[00:48:47] like, you know, obviously that character dies, but then Raj has to earn that performance at the end of the film. And when it finally happens, the audience has basically lived through that entire journey. And therefore we are also now invested in this. A star is born. It literally, it's a star is born at the end. And fricking hell,

[00:49:13] like it is reaching that crescendo and he dances his ass off. Like we've seen Ekpal Kaji now, what he can do, but then in the same movie at the end, like he, Rakesh Roshan is like, yeah, this is the climax, you know, enjoy. This is what we have done. And it gives that performance. And also the differentiation that when Rohit is dreaming of stardom, it's not the same that Raj is living. Like even those two fantasies are not the same. Like they look different in that.

[00:49:43] And that's what a good director does. You know, you know, when I was saying that he's very journeyman, but I don't want to downplay the talent too, right? Like these are very clear choices that a director is making. Maybe he's not doing like shadow work or, you know, making a criticism of society, but he is making these clear choices in filmmaking, which makes it such a big blockbuster and connects with us. Right. Something I picked up yesterday, and I would just like to mention this, I would probably make a meme out of it at some point, if I remember,

[00:50:13] but that whole last climax scene where they, you know, stage the concert to trap the criminals. It's very M night Shyamalan in 2024. So it's like, Oh, Rakesh Roshan did this before M night Shyamalan. They actually hosted a whole concert to, you know, capture criminals. And yeah. It's basically that hotel son owner, right? Dalip Tahil's son. He's really into just like concert kar lete. I was like, what? Like, let's have a barbecue. no, no, concert kar lete. You know,

[00:50:43] like, it's like, and also just like, he's, he's very unproblematic. For a rich guy. He's like, he's like, he's like, yeah, he's like a really positive guy. He just wants to help. We'll record some cassettes. We'll distribute it for indie labels. Yeah. He's basically living Anuv Jain's lifestyle, but like into the 2000 when Bollywood, like music would actually make money that it doesn't anymore, you know? So yeah, it's, he's just like, he was like, okay,

[00:51:12] Sonia suddenly wants to seduce me. And now she doesn't want to, I'm fine. I'm fine with both. Okay. I've just got an easy going guy, you know? I liked him. I liked him a lot. What's the actor's name? Rajesh Tandan. Yeah. Also the guy who, I mean, not the guy, but the woman who is hitting on Hrithik. Random lady. Random really hot for him. Yeah. Like she's like,

[00:51:40] she's like so much older than both. I didn't want to make that point, but I, I, it was impossible not to notice though. Like, I was like, wait, are you also going to college with Amisha and Hrithik? I think that is a conscious choice again to position him as a man and not a boy. I think that's the reason why. I think that is a really, a clear, uh,

[00:52:07] cause they could have gotten any of the girls in Amisha's entourage. Isn't that actress from Monsoon's wedding in there too, in the background or something like that? I don't know. I think so. Chunari Chunari, I think is one of them. no, no, no, it's not. You're thinking about somebody else, but the entire entourage is Farah Khan's dance, dance troupe. Right. I heard troupe from Mehuna and all that kind of thing. Because that appears from Piyar Ki Kashti Mein, but then they reappear in Ik Pal Ka Jeena, but with wigs. Really? Yeah.

[00:52:36] I didn't notice that. See, you were on the phone. I, I, no, I told you my version had, didn't have the song. So I had to go to the songs later on, uh, to go through them. But yeah, it's a, no, I mean, they could have picked a younger girl to fall in love, but they chose an older looking lady on the cruise to position him as a, you know, a, uh, a valid sexual choice.

[00:53:02] I feel underlines with saying that it's okay for older women to lust on him, you know? Uh, so I think that's what was happening. I, I didn't really thought that she was probably somebody else's daughter or wife or something. And they were just like, Hey, I'll give you some money. If you like cast my, you know, like my daughter as this horny lady who just wants to get into the dance. At some point, she even says, Papa or mommy,

[00:53:33] like straight up rejection. Cause, uh, so the lady playing Ritik's mom in New Zealand is actually Amisha Patel's mom. Mom. Yeah. So there is some auntie connections going on. Dad also? That I don't know. I, that I don't know. Um, I don't think so, but, uh, yeah. Shall we talk a bit about the music then? Oh, yes. So, so go ahead. What were you like? Like going through all of the songs and this album is a banger, man. Like,

[00:54:03] remember when an album used to have five good tracks? Like you don't even remember that happening anymore. Right? Like, I mean, we will be talking about albums in our Carva episode. When we record that fricking hell. It was a journey. But, also like, like, Koeila is also like a Rakesh Roshan movie, uh, which also has amazing songs. Karan Arjun has amazing songs. So that, that I think Khoon Bari Mang is probably one of the weaker ones. Right? I,

[00:54:33] I only remember Haste Haste, Kartu Chayir Haste. Um, anyway, coming back to Kahuna Piyar, this movie, like, I think Rakesh Roshan held Rajesh Roshan by the color. And like, Tumhara Bhanja Loonch Ho Rae, or Bhatija Loonch Ho Rae. You have to, you know, pull out all stops. And he went on into his library of tracks and got the best ones. I think, um, Piyar Ki Kashthi Me, uh, what's the first song? Chansi Tare. Oh God, what a song. Um,

[00:55:02] and then Piyar Ki Kashthi Me happens. And then, what, what, what are the, Kahuna Piyar He, the title track, man, I had forgotten how amazing this track was. Like, the, yeah. Classic Bollywood. Classic Bollywood. Classic Bollywood, yeah. Uh, like, yeah, that rhythm, that, that Udit Narayan and Alka Yaknik, it feels so, so good to be back in that, uh, Krabi Island. You know, it's so good. So good. Uh, we've all been,

[00:55:31] I think now, I think we've all been. Yeah, we've been there. But yeah, this was before, you know, 2001, uh, uh, this movie came out in 2000. So this was before the whole Instagram vibe of, you know, people going to Krabi for holidays. And this movie was before Lord of the Rings and it explored New Zealand's, uh, you know, Southern Alps and all of that. Uh, yeah, all the locations. And I've rewatched Iqbal Ka Jina a lot more times.

[00:56:00] Then the title track, but the title track needs a lot more credit because it's selling the movie in a way. It may, it's making the movie live a longer life beyond just watching the movie. You know, people remember the title track and people remember the name of the movie. Uh, so yeah, uh, the title track stood out the most for me in my rewatch. Hmm. What about you, Amrita?

[00:56:26] One of the things that really stood out to me about the music is the choreography. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because this is like we, like we've said multiple times so far, this is such a Bollywood choreography and it's not meant for TikTok. It's not meant for virality. It's not trying to trick the algorithm into recommending it to something. It,

[00:56:56] it's like, you know, you're in PR ki kashthi meh is actually where I started paying really close attention to it because, you know, the, I remember those steps because we all learn those steps, right? Uh, we used to all do it and we used to do, but like also the little wave thing, like you remember, like, and then there's like a point where they're talking about like Gagan and then they point to the sky and you see the sky and there's like, it's literally just the sky. Um,

[00:57:24] things that would never happen these days. And also, it's not trying to be sexual. Yeah. Yeah. There's a sexiness to these songs, but it is not sexualized. Um, and therefore you could actually, like, I would feel comfortable taking my child to see this thing. Or if my child wanted to practice the moves for these songs, I would feel comfortable about it. You know, uh, you have the pelvic thrusts and the, the hip swings and like all of that,

[00:57:54] but none of it is sexualized. None of that is meant to mimic sex in any way. Um, it's just old fashioned Bollywood choreography. And I literally, I was like one of those people going like lot of Farah Khan, lot of, I just, I just wanted, because I was watching the making of, of it afterwards. And I was like, who did the career? Like there's certain songs, you know, that is Farah, right? Like,

[00:58:23] you know, that's Farah, that's classic Farah. But I was like, Iqbal Ka Jina looks complicated for Farah, but no, it is Farah. Like she did it all. Um, the story behind that is apparently when they first went to Farah and they said, uh, can you choreograph it? So they were doing the Iqbal Ka Jina choreography and they had a choreography in mind. And then Ritik came on and he started dancing and he was rehearsing. And Farah and her assistants basically took one look at what he was doing. And they were just like,

[00:58:53] okay, wait, pause. We'll come back in three days. And they basically came up with like a much harder routine because they were like, this guy can actually deliver. Yeah. So we don't have to, we don't have to fake it. Yeah. Um, no, and I was watching it and talking about virality because we have the love Yappa song at the moment going on, which I absolutely love, but you know that that is created for a viral clip, right? Here, the kahuna piyaar hai dance step is not,

[00:59:22] it's also virality, but it didn't exist then, right? It's so simple. Even the, like I was watching and the, the, when the Iqbal Ka Jina choreography came out back in the day, it looked so amazing, right? Yeah. And now I'm looking at it and it's like, Tawba Tawba is more complicated than what Ritik is doing. For sure. It's actually quite simple. And I'm like a 45 year old man, you know, and I could pull it off in a way, you know, but it's not that complicated, right?

[00:59:48] But it's that thing that Farah was able to do to make it just complicated enough. No, not complicated. I would say Ritik was more capable than anybody before him. Yeah. Govinda was the only dancer we had at that time. Right. And these are not Govinda steps, right? These are very calculated scientific steps, choreography that Ritik is doing. And I think that's kind of always the thing that between who's the better dancer, is it Shahid,

[01:00:17] is it Govinda or is it Ritik? Right. I think Ritik, and he says it himself, he's not a good dancer, which I don't believe, but he says that in his fake modesty. I'm not a good dancer. I just rehearse a lot. You know, that was actually one of the stories I remember around that time when Ritik became, like had his debut and became a huge deal. But all the PR stories about Ritik was about what a hard worker he was. Yeah.

[01:00:45] The amount of time he would spend rehearsing, the hours he put into it, the effort he put into it, his dedication to the craft. These were what we got to hear about Ritik all the time. Yeah. And then the song that I actually like the most is the second Lucky Ali song, Na Tum Jaan O Na Hum. I think that's kind of the one that people don't mention enough, because it's just also classic Bollywood, right?

[01:01:15] It's just like a mountaintop and a sari and stuff like that. But I thought that was a really, really nice song. Yeah. Just wanted to kind of mention this. Any other points, random points that you have about the movie that you want to kind of bring up? I did laugh that the second club, the club in the daylight disco that they're going to, it's called Club Indiana. And I was like, is this the local offshoot of Club Angara? Like that was very funny.

[01:01:42] I'd like to mention that the climax song, the concert song, you know, he's basically reading off the notes of Rohit and he's dancing to that same song. So they have a shot of Amisha or Sonia, just looking at him dancing and sort of that emotion in her head, you know, the lover that she had in her past and he passed away. And this person sort of,

[01:02:09] the song of Rohit living through Raj is such a bittersweet emotion. And I found that quite interesting. On a choreography level, that one shot of this camera is still, and Hrithik just has that uncut dance portion, one of the most iconic dance portions in Bollywood cinema. And it still works. It's still like, they have not been able to replicate that because the camera and the editor nowadays love to,

[01:02:39] you know, cut and jump and do all of those things. This was it. They had that whole Michael Jackson vibe as well, where he's like, you know, the fans glowing. Just like Captain EO. Like in this moment, he's just like Captain EO. Can I also just say, isn't it from a, if this movie was real, isn't it kind of shitty that Raj puts on a better show than Rohit ever could have? Like I don't see Rohit popping and locking.

[01:03:06] Like Raj is just bringing in this New Zealand, you know, Ikpal ka Jina vibe to the music where it was just like, humara toh sirv guitar or flute, you know, he anumalik did basically for him. Yeah. Last thing is when you, Amrita said, Amrita said, Amisha Patel is basically an 80s heroine. The one trope that they play around it is, she's just like any other 80s heroine, jisko ye nahi pata ki uska baap criminal hai.

[01:03:36] Where did all this money come from? She does not have a clue. Yeah. I'm just the rich girl. Yeah. And I get sports cars for my birthday. Amrita, any random final notes on the movie? Rewatching it? Um, I, I'd forgotten how wholesome this movie is. And that is a quality that I don't really, I don't know if this movie came out today,

[01:04:05] it would work. Uh, I know everyone on social media is talking about how, what a good time they had, how much they enjoyed it, blah, blah, blah. But I think if it actually did debut today, then people would be like, yeh dee ko nepo kid, usko acting nahi aati. You know, like, Amisha is also a nepo kid. Usko bi acting nahi aati. Um, you know, like, look at the dancing. It's so simple. Like they would be,

[01:04:32] they would find about 50 million things to rip it apart for. Um, and we've just become like smaller, angrier, pettier people as an audience. And I think our movies reflect that sadly. Yeah. I think it's Kartikarian's fault. Um, I would also like to point out two more things. Um, Parzan, the Jalebi boy.

[01:05:02] Oh yeah. He's in this. He, he pops up. He's a sort of a milestone of 2000 era movies. Like he was in the Jalebi ad. Then he made, uh, into Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. He was big in that as the Sardar Kid. And he sort of pops up here in that, uh, aeroplanes, uh, like the flight scene. I had completely forgotten about the mustache guy. I remember laughing my ass off as a kid. And I was like, wow, my jokes, my humor have really evolved over the 25 years. Um, and the,

[01:05:32] the, there are some like cinematography flourishes in this movie that is no longer seen in Hindi cinema because obviously we moved from film to digital completely, but film like photography, man, it, the, the, um, cinematographer is Kabir Lal, who also shot Tal. And you can see that, you know, the, in the way that the light is used in, in darker scenes. And also like, there's one simple scene where, um,

[01:06:00] Rohit is reflecting like on his life or whatever on the beach and it's sunset. And you can see the sunset reflecting back on his face. And it's obviously not the sunset. They have used proper lights to reflect. And that's such a beautiful way to, you know, shoot. Uh, I miss that era of Hollywood. It feels like a proper, you know, gray, evil film. Yeah. We used to make movies. Yeah. We used to make movies. This was cinema. Yeah. Uh, random notes that I had, um,

[01:06:30] Rohit loves the shirt pe shirt look that, uh, Mahesh Babu then used to call her, call her, uh, uh, Raj, they hide his thumb. Like they hide pregnancies in sitcoms. It's such an angle. Like the way he's holding it. Uh, what else did I have? Um, you know, there's this, uh, a lot of like red pill content out on the internet about, you know, just hot guys. If it's a hot guy, he can get away with anything if he's hot and tall.

[01:06:59] And obviously Ritik is hot and tall, you know? So I was like, when they were in the cruise and they were doing that magician show that they were doing, and people were just lapping it up like crazy. It just made me think if you're a hot and tall guy, you can get away with the shittiest magic tricks and people will love you for it. You know? Um, and then final note. Oh, uh, I did say, nobody has a Kiwi accent in all of New Zealand. Yeah. Um, I didn't want to talk about lastly about Dali, Dali,

[01:07:29] Dali Tahil's villainy in this movie, which we haven't really talked about. Um, because at a, he, he kills the commissioner of police of Bombay. I was, is it Bombay in Delhi? I don't know. Bombay. So he kills the commissioner of the city in probably the most busiest parking lot in Bombay, because everybody has seen that murder. Like everybody. Um, and then when they try to catch Hrithik at the concert,

[01:07:57] they dress up as a Sardar, a Pathan and a pirate. A setup of a joke, you know, a Sardar, a Pathan and pirate walk into a stadium. And then get a one piece episode. Yeah. Yeah. Oh God. Comes up with this stuff. Rakesh Roshan. Rakesh Roshan.

[01:08:25] And then there is the gag of Johnny Lever, who is almost on the verge of peeing. And, and he's. Oh yeah. Johnny Lever is in the school. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's it for Kahona Pyar Hai. Um, if this movie also altered your brain chemistry, drop us an email at you podcasting in gmail.com. Um, and yeah, Amrita, where can people find you online?

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