[00:00:01] Hi, I'm Bihalow and welcome to my show Unbound. I'm your host Mamtaa. A space curated for real stories of people from different walks of life who have sailed through uncharted waters and lived to tell their inspiring story.
[00:00:25] Unbound is a deep dive into their journeys, to unravel, unearth, uncover various facets of their lives as they remain unstoppable and continue to do the unthinkable. So welcome, yet another episode yet another series of documenting some absolutely unstoppable
[00:00:50] human life and today I am stoked, I am happy, I'm honoured to have the two lovely ladies and welcome to the Unbound Special, thank you so much, Mamtaa pleasure to be here. Welcome, thank you so much, Mamtaa, thanks for having me here.
[00:01:06] Absolutely and it's an honour and I would just want to start right from this start. We are talking international women's day, month, year and I wouldn't say life. So you take, should we be actually celebrating such occasions? It's like, I'm not saying that everyday is special, you know?
[00:01:29] It's just that you have to be born. I celebrate myself everyday but it's just that the birthday gives you a reason to be extra special to yourself and I believe in international men's day as well as women's day because we both
[00:01:42] are we have to exist together to maintain the balance of the psychological system and none is above the other, I feel. So equal, you know, I'm sorry, a lot of people say what and I get popped eyeballs and say
[00:01:57] no, but you know, archcoli quality equal, I mean, men are from Mars women are from Venus and we are given equal opportunities but we deal with them differently. We have our difference trends, we have our different weaknesses and we try to co-exist each other, we balance each other.
[00:02:13] Yeah, so it's important to celebrate both the days, it's like, might as well now, Valentine's day is a rainy day that we have to have candlelight and roses but just everybody is feeling the love, celebrate and joy love. Nice, well said, what about you, Priti? Yotek.
[00:02:27] I think it's just a reminder to ourselves that Pamper yourself one day because you won't find time in the rest of the T64 days necessarily so I think it just makes you, it's a reminder, makes yourself feel special
[00:02:40] and let somebody else wants to do something for you, let them do it. Wow. Is that simple, I think? You've nicely put the responsibility on others also. So well said and absolutely keeping up to that spirit we are here
[00:02:52] curating this special series with our fellow women, women who dare to dream, women who have dreamt and women who have really achieved them with both of your stories today. I take this honour to be lording, applauding all the women in this room
[00:03:08] and outside who are just standing up for themselves. So welcome to the show once again. Thank you. Thank you. And I would want to get started right from the very pertinent question of inclusion, while there is a lot of dialogue, there's a lot of lip service,
[00:03:24] Priti Yotek, especially coming from finance and banking background sector, how has it really played up for you? Right, I think for me, the only thing which matters is a level playing field. All I need is give me a chance, don't hold anything back from me.
[00:03:45] Make it as staff as you make it for any other person including a man. Let me deliver what I think I can deliver to you. Don't hold up anything for me or don't hold up anything against me. At least not on the basis of gender.
[00:03:59] Right? It could be pay parity, it could be power, it could be position, it could be authority, it could be accountability, it could be a challenging assignment. Don't decide for me. Let me decide whether I can do it or not and I can prove you wrong any day.
[00:04:11] When we hire people as an example, a very simple example, I think still the mindset is experience over everything. Long back, I transition myself to look for a good overall experience. I'd rather believe in you as an individual rather than what your resume carries,
[00:04:27] because I know if you're able then you can deliver anything. Absolutely. So for me, inclusivity is all about making it level playing field for a man or a woman. For an experienced person or an even person. That's what it means to be very well articulated
[00:04:41] and you're coming from media, entertainment and now taking this whole thing on yourself. I have to be entrepreneurship bigger than me. I have to really make way for yourself everywhere. See, I would like to pick up from the topic of pay parity.
[00:05:01] I remember it's so amazing that you think about it right now. Long back when I was in my radio days, one of my seniors. The March April increment time which we all have. So the pay parity inclusion was there. Yes. Now it's more and more there.
[00:05:16] Now we have the gates open for all kinds of jobs, all kinds of posts. And we are trying our level best to put in. However, we are trying to balance home as well as work mode.
[00:05:27] Where a man needs to get up, get ready and leave for office with the doll on the bed. A woman runs the washing machine, make sure the kitchen is set, make sure the house is set, while coming back what all is required and then she leaves.
[00:05:39] But still she has the gates open. Pay parity, I remember. So during increment time, so I said, you know, I'm doing blah, blah, blah, of course from the last year. This is what my work has been. It is more now. So, you know, I think I deserve more.
[00:05:53] I was shocked with the answer. He said, but why you married now? Enjoy your work. Why do you need an increment? And I said one second, did you really say this? I said so, so so enjoy your work.
[00:06:08] So I think this, this inclusion which we hear in every field, made me copper it's made be theatre, made be radio, made be freelancers also. This always more, you know, more numbers, more zeros on the paycheck.
[00:06:22] Oh yeah. Then for women and I don't know why just because they're married. So they have a man to take care of them. We are very thankful for that. But at the same time, I'm off that belief that I should be equally supportive to him.
[00:06:34] Why, you know, why put the entire burden on them? And this is shocking. Like in today's day and age where actually that may not be even the case. It could be a very assumed or like a presumed thing to say that, okay, you're married and
[00:06:48] you're definitely taken care of. It may just not be the case at all. That women is running the show whichever way or you know, maybe she's earning more or maybe she's earning equal, maybe there are other financial circumstances. So would you like to add something?
[00:07:03] I can see it for years together, I think I kept myself very agnostic of the differences consciously. Because I think I wanted to prove myself, I wanted to learn, I wanted to deliver and I wanted to do it all my way.
[00:07:18] So that I can be up in the ladder as the time passes by. I left the corporate industry from, you know, the job of a bank recently. The first thing which came to me for many people is, are you taking a break? Is it coming from men?
[00:07:36] Not necessarily. I won't hold men harder on this one, but I think first impression, everybody got in general was, am I taking a break? Do you know, I'm not taking a break? I've just decided to start something on my own. So that's the mindset in general people have.
[00:07:53] Yeah. I didn't spend time explaining it to them, I didn't spend time clarifying it to them. I said, why don't you wait and see? Anything new that somebody starts, somebody needs to take
[00:08:03] a little bit of time. Yeah. And I'm in that process and when the things come up, you will get to see yourself whether I'm taking a break or whether I really mean to do something
[00:08:13] which I've been wanting to do. So going back there, there's a lot of ownership on us definitely. But I think very early I learned the art of giving myself away from it and do what I want to do and take some of these comments in this slide. Yeah.
[00:08:30] Interesting that you say that, Prithi and I would like to come to your viewpoint on this as well that judgment. We're very fast and very unabashed and very quick to judge women. And to that extent that the conditioning has gone or seemed in so far and take,
[00:08:50] there even women have started judging themselves. For ever, like, I mean am I doing it right? Is it the best? Is more is required? What are they expecting from me? Have you seen yourself being held back with that narrative? Oh yes, absolutely. After becoming a mom, you know,
[00:09:08] the mom guilt, it's always there. Zada kam kalyat, ogilti, rye. Now today for example if I get home late and buy then my son is already home. Oh yeah, every day I pick him up, you know,
[00:09:19] today I'm not there. Or maybe I don't make 10 different snacks every week, you know, I'm not experimenting with healthy food and you know, minerals be on it, which means we only do it. Yeah, we only see I don't because somehow, I don't know so many recipes.
[00:09:35] Be I don't know where somehow you know, not not in that frame of mind also, key I have to be a hundred percent hands-on mom, no, because there I'll lose myself.
[00:09:44] And if I lose myself today, what do I have to give to my child? So I like to strike that balance that I make myself also happy so that I can spread that happiness. But yes, when I'm not able
[00:09:55] to do it, it's like suppose when it's like, today Kavanaugh, Kushni, Naksamajara, just have alukah palatah easiest. Yeah, I do judge myself. You know, my friend does so much and you know, this one does so
[00:10:07] much, but what do I, but anyways, you know, it's like they say, you know, the pain doesn't go away, but you learn to live with it. So there are some things you've accepted and you've learned to live with it.
[00:10:19] Yeah, but coming to you, pretty because you do have a tendency to take it hard on yourself. Also because maybe that's the kind of home ground, that's the kind of benchmarks that you have
[00:10:30] you know, got in life. How do you judge or validate yourself? So I'm the youngest of the family and I've got the family's very illustrious, very well to do very well read. So it wasn't easy for me
[00:10:48] to not give, you know, it wasn't simple for me to make an easy going life. I had to make it hard going to live with it. Yeah, but it's just that I wanted to be
[00:11:06] making sure that I satisfy everybody including myself. So very early. Is self-induced in a way? It is a lot self-induced because I have always competed with my own self and I don't know when
[00:11:17] did it start actually, don't remember. I was asing in school, I was very well in the extra curriculum. So maybe it was in the genes when I grew up, having said which, over a period of time
[00:11:30] I realized that am I competing with somebody in the world? Yeah, the answer came back, no, you're competing with your own self. Do I have to be better with somebody else? Do I have to make
[00:11:39] my career better than somebody else? I think I realized very early, no, everybody has its own journeys, one of the later everybody gets what they want, just be patient. I'll give you one example for seven years I was doing Delhi Bombay between 2016 and until recently. And for
[00:11:58] your work, for work, I was working in Bombay but my family wasn't early. It was upon myself how I lead my life professionally and personally, but I took the hard way. So I would leave my home at
[00:12:10] we are in Delhi at one of the block I was on road to take early morning flight. Yeah, on Monday morning and I would come back on Saturday morning again we are when the world was sleeping I was on the road.
[00:12:20] Yeah, one day one of my supervisor asked or a leader asked me, you know, my boss asked me, why do you have to take the odd hours? I allow you to be in the office by 10 to 11. I said,
[00:12:34] A, I'm not taking your permission, I'm not asking for your permission. B, I'm competing with myself. I know that all the people in the office are going to be in the office by 9 o'clock. Why should
[00:12:44] I give myself the leeway to not be in the office in time? It's my decision to be staying in Delhi and working in Bombay, which means I have to make it happen. So to your point,
[00:12:56] I think it's just over a period of time have become in the DNA that don't give reasons to the other to be not being able to have the same standards as others would have it. Because others would be judged
[00:13:11] by what they bring on the table. I should also be judged what I bring on the table, not because I'm doing up and down or because I have a family to take care of because I have a profession like to take care.
[00:13:22] I took all of it on me just to make sure there's a level of being people again. It goes back to my basic month. Does that come from being a sportswoman at home? Absolutely. I'm very competitive.
[00:13:35] I'm very ambitious and I have no qualms about it. And I think that has made me going. And I must say, I have worked with best of the minds in my corporate life. People in both the organizations, major organizations that I've worked with which are the foreign banks,
[00:13:51] I think people are very, very hardworking. They're very well-todowing terms of the knowledge and what they bring on the table. I didn't have a choice but not to follow their marks.
[00:14:02] They made me competitive because that's how we grew together as a group. So a lot of it goes back to what I was trying to prove at home. My siblings and my father and mother that I'm a good child.
[00:14:15] And also to the world out there that yes, I'm there to be able to have shoulders with all of you. That became a part of him. But are you losing out on some sort of a personal authority here? Uh...
[00:14:28] Off-flate, I've started taking things easy. And one of the decision was to leave the corporate world after 23 years and start something on my own. Do I have to keep running all the time?
[00:14:40] Yes. Can I take it easy? Not because I want to take it easy because I want to think pause, reflect and then start something from this crunch to build a legacy for the next 30 years.
[00:14:54] I'm at the cusp of my professional career. I spent 25 years. There's going to be 25 years ahead of me. I'm in the middle. If I don't take that detour now, I will ever be able to take it in the future.
[00:15:07] It's not easy. Last 40 days have not been easy. Ever since I've started my own company? 40 days? It's a 40 days. It's like you've just burned the baby. I've just given the books for baby. Wow.
[00:15:18] How about yourself? Actually, where do you... Of course, I hear you when you say that judgment that can be seen. That happens very often and mothers guilt. But are there other factors in life where you actually seen you kind of losing control and giving away your personal authority?
[00:15:36] Maybe listening it too much to what others are saying or judging about you? Actually, I have been because initially, I don't know if everybody has noticed ever since the work from home is
[00:15:48] begun. It's very strange and I don't know for some reason women working from home are not taken very seriously as men working from home. I don't know why. It's like if a man is working from home
[00:16:02] and I'm not going to quote my own example because my husband has always been on the side into construction. So I've not faced that okay he's working in one room and I'm working in the other.
[00:16:11] But I've faced it with my friends, you know, if the husband is working from home and so will she. But if a guy is playing when he comes, if there's some appointment, only the husband will be asked
[00:16:24] that will you be comfortable? Should we make this noise? Should we plan this? wife is like, you know, she's not even considered work from home. I don't know this disparity. I mean,
[00:16:35] I'm not saying I put it harder on myself, but I'd be very bad about it. So I'm a voice artist and I have any commerce websites. Yes. So of course the you know the website is all not a pilot,
[00:16:45] you know we run as people place the auto all over India. Korea's come. I only packed them from home. I have the entire warehouse in my own set and I have my mic set up in my room where
[00:16:56] they've got my ads and everything. Sometimes in the cupboard, the camera came and it was covered. The famous cupboard with the, you know, kids playing in the park and we're on the ground. So,
[00:17:06] you know, we can hear that noise. But not even once I have felt, oh she's working on this turbo. I don't know. I'm not I'm not blaming anybody. But it's just that because we are home mindset.
[00:17:17] So we are home only, huh? That's okay. I feel that judgment is not from my side. It's not an in a guilt. But I really feel people should, you know, understand that. Yeah, but I think here the
[00:17:28] responsibility does lie in our own hands too. As much as we can and we will make that noise and say that listen, my work is equally important. It doesn't matter whether it is in my case that it could
[00:17:41] be saving someone's life, which is my husband. Yeah. But I am working. It may look very frivolous to sit on Instagram and to be posting greens. But that is my work. Exactly. And I better be
[00:17:52] doing the jolly good job at that, right? Because there is a level of expectation. There's a level of quality that's expected when you're a content creator. So I hear you, but I also feel
[00:18:08] that is this our own personal responsibility to give us that merit importance and then say that listen, I'm important and I need to do this my way or this way. You take on that.
[00:18:23] I don't think pulling a sickle sugar. I don't think it makes a difference because if somebody wants to give you that importance they do in the first quote itself. So I have, I have those people who
[00:18:34] understand my work but those don't, there's no point. And now, you know, almost, I'm going to hit my 40s and now I've reached that stage where you know, like, of, of, archa-l'e everybody's saying that 2 plus 2 is 5. All right. You feel it's 5. It's 5. It's 7. You take it.
[00:18:51] I'm done with proving that no, it's 4. You know, I work so hard and I do this and I do that. See, I'm always trying to put it in my best. You don't see it to put it in the camera.
[00:19:02] I know what I'm doing and I know myself and I'm really not and I'm still trying. I'm not saying I've gotten there. I won't say it. I'm still not trying to prove it to you.
[00:19:14] I'm just if I have to justify, then, you know, it makes no words your take on that. I think a bit of this comes from the age, the moment the clock turned 40. A lot of wisdom came.
[00:19:26] A lot of the between up till, you know, 39, a lot of questions were there in the mind. Some, I wanted somebody else to answer them for me. The moment I celebrated my birthday and
[00:19:37] landed on this side of the 40s. I realized that all the answers were there with me. I didn't know how to find them. So, I'm very relaxed and I haven't turned 40 yesterday. So,
[00:19:47] there's been a couple of years. But I feel very relaxed. I don't feel the need of proving myself to anybody. Because like I said, it's your journey. You are experiencing the troughs and the trials and
[00:19:59] the tribulations of the journey. Nobody else is doing it. Whether you're working from the home, you're stretching, not stretching, you're out in the world, you're having shoulders with a man. And people are like, right? Why only whole men responds to bulls? Even your leading,
[00:20:13] a competitive lie with women who have done very well for themselves. So, it's how you take it. You know, I'll take a minute to describe myself and I was thinking this morning that if I
[00:20:25] have to describe myself, how will I do it? Very bluntly put, I think there are two S's, two H's and one C. An Alex Plenders. That's interesting. That sounds interesting. So, it's simple. I'm very simple person. I'm a very sincere person. I'm a very honest person.
[00:20:43] I'm very hardworking and I'm very caring. That sounds me up. Yeah. So, beyond that if somebody has to say anything to me, doesn't matter. As long as I'm sticking to these virtues,
[00:20:53] that has stayed with me over the years. Yeah. See, what resonates of course in this room is that we are either on the 40 mark almost or we are on the other side. Yes, women go through a lot,
[00:21:10] not only emotionally at the societal level, in terms of conditioning at psychological level, physiological level, the environment's changed. They get married, they move, they decide, they choose upon, they take upon and then there is actually a biological level too. So,
[00:21:33] everything goes in the making of that woman who has to change at this stage when you know in an around 40s plus minus, most important is the biological issue for, I mean others it can be
[00:21:46] all right. It's a part of life. Of course you have to deal with it but once you're dealing with it, you guys, sometimes it's crazy and I'm thankful that the pre-menopause, the menopause, the menopause, all these things are part of discussions now. Yeah. Thankfully,
[00:22:01] you know, but they're talking about these things. Are these becoming a part of both room, leadership, discussion and decision making as well? Are we taking cognizance of the fact that if a woman is coming with this kind of experience of these other things that she's
[00:22:16] bringing on board, of course she's so equipped, so experienced, so talented but she could be heading into some emotional mental phases now and therefore that would have some sort of an impact on her professional aspect of work. Have you seen things happening? I think the rights have been
[00:22:35] more than the wrongs. So, I'll give you a couple of examples. People in general, men and women both have become sensitive to each other after pandemic. The very sensitive to the needs on the personal front versus professional front, they're very accommodating. So when last year my father
[00:22:57] had to be admitted in the ICU for three weeks and I was actually operating out of ICU, outside the ICU. From 730 in the morning till 11 between the this was while you were still I was working. So I had my laptop on your lap on my lap.
[00:23:17] So, my ecosystem at work was supportive. Yeah. I didn't have to cut corners. People understood I was very conscious that we don't know which way the wind is blowing here. So do as much as
[00:23:32] you can and just take the day as it comes. Likewise I saw some of my male colleagues were going through you know paternalies etc etc so they wanted the time off. So we understand each other
[00:23:47] people are very supportive. People are very conscious. Men are very conscious now that if there's a child born in the family, they have to equally participate in the process. And they don't
[00:23:57] shy away telling that they can't make it for the meeting because the wife is away and we have to take care of the child. I think that's the growth I have seen in the last few years,
[00:24:07] especially after pandemic. So that's a very welcoming change and I don't I didn't shy away saying I remember some people were asking me why don't you take the time off? I said why should I take the
[00:24:19] time off when I can enable to manage it? At the end of the day hospital gives me only two windows to meet him for 10 minutes. For the rest of the time I want to be here because I don't know
[00:24:29] when he needs me. This is my choice but the same time it is my choice to deliver and count me on the delivery how leave it to me. And I think people understood that. People are very supportive.
[00:24:43] So that's a very important and very interesting point that you've made because that's where even I speak off when I talk about my work or generally like trusting people with work, women with work, men with work, leave the house.
[00:25:00] Leave the house right? I mean it'll happen. When we're what everything will be delivered but please leave the house. But you know thankfully picking up from where she says that men have understood
[00:25:12] it's very nice and it's a very beautiful change to see also how husbands these days in our generation. As fathers there's so hands-on. 99.9% of fathers are equally hands-on with the child's routine and with the studies which class or what's going to happen. So if you're not away
[00:25:34] and if the husband informs in office that okay I'm with my child for some food. It's very very normal. You know normalizing fathers being as informed and as involved with the child.
[00:25:46] Absolutely. It's amazing to see that change. Yeah that's why I say that is we both it's very important to celebrate both. And because today we've come together. Yes yes. Today it is the Yen Nyang. It is meeting the forces. It may be mass and we must
[00:26:01] but we are existing on earth together. And you know both carry this fence. And both carry the areas that they can work upon. So one cannot be held against other. Like I said carrying
[00:26:13] comes more with women, a bit of more accountability comes with men when he comes to harder tasks. And it's fine. I mean there is a limit to which you can do. Yeah. There's a limit to which they can do. As long as that understanding is there.
[00:26:27] Equation works. Yeah and there's no bravado to oh my god I'll prove it. I'm on my own. Yes I can by myself flowers but it would be nice too. Yeah. You're from somebody. From somebody. It's fine. Why do we have to prove it to the world?
[00:26:44] Yeah. No that's okay. As long as in this big world you're small tiny world. You have that understanding and that just and respect, you know. I really feel that love you know you don't
[00:26:55] love each other all day every day. I don't. Yeah but we respect each other all day every day. So as long as that doesn't change. Yes love can be managed. Yeah. That is there. That's there.
[00:27:08] We're not respected. Ballimoda you listen. Kids have to change. They have to change. Yeah. No and interesting because again as a mother I actually this year I told my husband that now from this year onward you will be a part of those WhatsApp mommy groups.
[00:27:27] Where you receive all but then why do you get all class reminders? No and and interesting. There are no fathers. Yeah. No now interestingly we are seeing that shift also. I'm sure as are a real good woman see that. Even at birthday parties the father is actually
[00:27:46] walking in with the child rather than it's always so many times. So many times. I had a friend who was expecting another child. So for the final three four months last time Mr. I could see
[00:27:56] only the father. Yeah and it's not, you know it's not oh my god yes. It's not a surprise anymore. That is the best part. It's not a surprise. It's very normal. Yeah.
[00:28:07] Normalized it meant be equally involved. Yeah. I'll give one example. I was managing a large team in my previous job just please show. And I gathered all the women together as a let's do a session
[00:28:21] about more personal things about learning from each other at sector. So I held a two hour session with all the women. We were 50, 55 people or in the room. The session was very
[00:28:35] well received. A lot of personal questions came away. A lot of people wanted to know my journey at sector and I think it was a roaring success. And one of the yachts took the success of that session
[00:28:47] was after the session, men came to me. Yeah. Why are you holding a session only for the women? Why are you holding the session for us? As a okay. I not that I consciously left you out but
[00:29:00] gathering a group of women is much easier because you come from the same thought process. It's easy to talk about it because people would want to know. It's not all rosy. There are hardship.
[00:29:12] People want to know. And I would have loved to have you if you were interested to listen to us but I knew that women would be more keen. But the hard part for me was to decide the topic
[00:29:24] for the men. Which can hold all of them together. It's about we may be assuming things for people or men which may not be the case. It is not a coincidence just as you say that and mention it.
[00:29:39] This year's international women stay campaign is actually hashtag inspire inclusion. So inclusion is not about getting genders together. Inclusion about even that conversation that why are we talking women? Only with women. So guys if we are listening we must definitely have men also on the panel
[00:29:59] for the unbound special. At unbound, we believe in the power of unhinged minds and untamed ideas of people from all walks of life. As we sit down to talk with some of them,
[00:30:17] we are listening to your voice as well. So share your thoughts, ideas or take a visit from this podcast as a review on Apple Podcasts. So popularly said, probably said behind every successful man there is a woman. Who is behind the success of a woman?
[00:30:41] Yeah, you know, Sikh takes a battalion. I'm not joking. I'm not one of those women who has made it on her own. Sometimes my my colleagues were my support. Sometimes you know and actually
[00:30:55] if I have to go back a little I come from a family where all the women have always been working. So that's the environmental scene. Like my you know my grandmother's generation. She finishes studies after getting married to you know the what family. And her sister-in-law taught her
[00:31:12] because that time she was the professor in college. So she used to make 50 chapaties for a joint family, finish off dinner, 12 o'clock sit in the balcony, study, five o'clock leaf school.
[00:31:22] So I have 3rd these stories. Wow. And all my fathers, who are there been either lawyers or professors or principals. Of course the men are all working but I have never seen any woman at home.
[00:31:34] And with all your respect, of course it's great that there is no big work then running a house 24-7 but at the same time we've always been wired that you know you have you have to work.
[00:31:45] You have to, I mean like, it's make me choice. That you do. First the aspiration has to be there. Yeah. So in my growing years my grandparents were behind me you know to you know
[00:31:54] I'm drill it in my head. While I was finishing my studies my father was very strict about career. He said do whatever you want stand on your feet and then enjoy the work. I've you know,
[00:32:05] I'd bunk my school. I went to Priya's to you know see public demand if you remember. I still remember this story by my mother, Chaudhary and Rosha,
[00:32:12] and she was like, I had a mic in there and they were covering you know things and I bunked and I came back home and I got a thrashing of my life. And he said Priya Janae, hold the mic. I should see an
[00:32:23] I card in you and I proudly go, don't bunk in hide like this. So I'm like yeah so that time it was yeah. He was a goose bumps. Yeah. So you know there are some things which gets stuck in your head.
[00:32:34] Yeah. So probably that you know media, past and the mic was always stuck in my head and now it's my husband and my in-laws. But it takes a group of all these people you know
[00:32:44] and right now to you know do well in my career or whatever I'm able to manage. I would say the best career decision I've taken is to marry the right guy. So you know all those bachpankar work in everything. Yeah. So he resonates with the same mindset.
[00:33:03] Yes. And now is still you know there. So there's no key okay I will allow you or I will support you. It's a done thing. I work you work. Why are you working like that? Yeah. I'm taking a day off. He's saying no move.
[00:33:16] Yeah. How about you Priya? Who is really at that end of this spectrum? Those line of people circumstances, events, communities or your own ecosystem that has really led to your growth in success in life. I think I would bucket this into three categories
[00:33:35] and that pretty much sums up the world for me. Yeah. One is of course the home the family. The massive support that I got right from my childhood now. The very supportive we've been a nuclear
[00:33:45] family. We've taken care of each other. We never we were six people when my mother was alive. Now we are five. We never needed a seven person ever in my growing years. I mean hard it
[00:33:56] may sound or easy it may sound. It was so we are so well connected with each other that we don't feel the need of looking outside for any motivation inspiration etc. That's part number one. And my father, my mother they have been great supporter of us becoming independent.
[00:34:16] Normally on the ground right from the childhood. I don't remember we being told anything except find your feet every single day. So that's state. The second is I have 23 years of workx. Imagine the number of people that I've worked with and met. All of them in any
[00:34:38] capacity, in every capacity has shaped me as a woman, as a professional. The people who like the work I did or like what I brought on the table have helped me strengthen my strengths. They have sharpened my strengths. The people who critiqued me because of any of you.
[00:34:57] Not because it could be a difference in frequency, it could be a difference in wavelength. It could be anything. But I think they helped me more because I wasn't able to build into recognized as a shortcoming. It came on my face through those
[00:35:16] set of people. So it helped me even overcome the challenges that I was facing. I'm not saying I'm perfect. I think all of us are working progress throughout. Still the end. Still the end.
[00:35:28] That's the second mix. The third is I realized that subconsciously and I've worked on it. You need to have people not many people, but some people who act as a advisors to you. They could be any age. So I have some friends through my work and otherwise
[00:35:49] who can be reached for advice that you can't get from your family and you can't get from professional world. I've made a bunch of my personal advisors and vice versa. I would be personal
[00:36:02] advice or too many of them. Where you know, if you have a group of these people around you, I think you can overcome any challenge and the rest is you have a mind, you have a heart
[00:36:16] which acts as a good sounding boat yourself. So a combination of all of this has helped me. Beautiful. It's easy. There are so many people in our lives. Like for example,
[00:36:27] once we were doing a podcast and I was on the way but in a very bad mood. Sometimes you're not in the good mood. So that time my friends, you know, I would call my girls and get
[00:36:37] an auto-miss system. It doesn't matter. It's okay we have a team and you will be great. So of course they are behind me. You know to uplift me that day. Sometimes you're about to enter
[00:36:47] a conference hall and there's a cleaning lady and you're really stressed and she says good morning we are that chill like real. She just made my day just like that. So there are so many people
[00:37:01] in various parts of our lives who touched our lives in different ways and in different stages. Who have helped so whether it's your friends and family, neighbors, you know, now social media I have because you know you see,
[00:37:16] I mean you you see inspiration from others who are doing so well and of course I completely agree you. The nasi. Yes absolutely the nasi. Those who have said that you can't do it. Thank you so much
[00:37:29] because if you didn't I would have been very you can play sin but because you thought I couldn't. Yeah. Okay, let's kill it. Love the wife girls. No literally. I mean these other invisible contributors to us. Yes and so many times not so consciously maybe we
[00:37:48] are even imbibing or being present to it but so many times subconsciously all of this is working towards success in that day in that moment. Yeah. Stored maybe but definitely not shaken. These are
[00:38:03] the women, these are the power women and they are here today on unbound specials with me. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. So tell me what is that really stirs you sometimes maybe not even shakes you and but you've always seen yourself unbound from there.
[00:38:26] You know it's within myself. It's the unproductiveness sometimes. You know there are some days where you know today I don't feel like working okay, they know yeah then you're another day also. Just don't feel like doing anything. Sometimes on
[00:38:39] Mondays because I work from home and Saturday Sundays always very hectic with family and everything. I like to take huge rears of Monday off. But I could go if it gets on to Tuesday and sometimes
[00:38:50] Thursday sometimes you're not in the mood because as a voice artist you know every time to say ah jeekery day oh my god. You're not in the zone to talk like this sometime.
[00:39:01] Hope then after those three or four days you know when I introspect while I'm phases up I'm like no no let's get to one. I haven't done anything. I've been unproductive. The guilt of being unproductive. That's does. What about you baby? I've been thinking of this question
[00:39:17] for a while since you asked. I think what stirs me is I'm very reciprocated. If somebody comes to me for something I'm very instantaneous. Maybe there's an expectation in equal hindsight. Okay so if somebody is not able to come to me and there is a
[00:39:37] lack of communication that stirs me okay. But I think I've learned to take it easy not be too hard on myself and others and I let it go. But I think one of the key things for me is communicate
[00:39:51] good bad ugly but communicate. Yeah that's essential. Yeah. So what are your unbound moments in life? Like something which completely sets you on a free mealing maybe we'll start with you and then come.
[00:40:03] Yeah sure. I love to do two or three things as a routine and a ritual everyday and I'm picked it up during pandemic. I don't think I can let it go. One is get up in the morning after
[00:40:15] settling then I do my meditation and yoga or exercise and we call it and then the evening I have to go for a jog in a row. Okay and I journal. So another piece of advisors to me is now become
[00:40:27] a module for the last there is there is some preference I have let me say for lack of better word right now. There I want my book to be written. Okay I may not have achieved much in my life
[00:40:40] but there isn't in a desire that in some point in time a book should be written on me. I'm trying to capture because I won't be able to remember everything because the mind
[00:40:51] is free. Yeah so I have always been a part of the corporate world and now because I designed so from the day I resigned till now it's been two months. Maybe a little more than two months.
[00:41:03] I've been writing every day because I don't want any thought, any feeling, any emotional, any experience to go unnotice. So I'm writing it down that if I have to pick up a chapter of this
[00:41:14] in my life in a book and a few which somebody should be able to interpret it. Oh wow. So that's really helping me and sometimes I don't feel the need of any other person because everything is
[00:41:24] coming out on the paper. Yeah, so that really eases me now. One thing I learnt Manta is don't keep this heavy put it down if you don't have anybody to talk to put it down
[00:41:38] let this be free let it be a nooping balance as a nil in the morning during the day let it run up. And the closing balance can be but if you can take the closing balance out and keep it empty
[00:41:50] it's the best. Wow that's quite a balance, she do a maintaining up there beautiful. How about you? And my unbounding moments in life. I'm pounding moments you know to be very honest like
[00:42:02] you know like you said it's we have one thing very much in common is like even I'm a yoga person and now my power yoga 45 minutes in the morning we are three friends we do it together you know
[00:42:13] and those 45 50 minutes are you know strangely not many people know only people who do yoga they believe in it and know that all the other forms of exercises they burn your energy yoga produces energy. So I feel
[00:42:28] very very nice and very alive. Charge very charge yes I don't I don't miss my evening 45 minute you know bris muck is well because I mean that's another phase of catching up with friends
[00:42:39] and then doing your rounds you know that's like a pattern. I love to follow a pattern Monday to Friday but I love to break through all of it. Like I don't want to sleep at 10 o'clock on a Friday.
[00:42:50] Because you know I want to take that break in charge enjoy chill, you know dance, party or watch a nice movie watch a movie marathon for you know from 12 at 9 to 3. But I like to take that
[00:43:03] break the chain and then recharge back on a Monday morning. If I will not take that break every day will be a week, every day will be a Monday and then your detox can only be in talks to
[00:43:15] you but you have to engage in a non-routine state and then you enjoy the routine back and because after Sunday who psychologically you know you feel that now I want routine back in my life that's
[00:43:27] our condition. And then my happiest place is my mic you know when I'm not doing voiceovers I love music I love music I love to sing in fact my husband and I born over musical
[00:43:40] long because even sings in all so that we've made medley's and all during lockdown but otherwise also I read scripts on the mic listen to them you know in act scenes from various shows and all
[00:43:52] this is my mic is my happiest place in the house. My kiss back in your life and yes, so black yes. Okay so in that case tell me something that really ties you especially fear what
[00:44:06] is your maybe if I can say the biggest fear in life. Is it fair to say at some point in time you become fearless because what is fear fear is an anxiety of an uncertainty right?
[00:44:22] Maybe sometimes even you want to control things your way and when they don't go as planned. Yeah nothing goes as per plan. I'll stop planning if you believe me. I think I was selling
[00:44:34] you in the break earlier. I never wanted to do the course which I landed up doing in my graduation and never wanted to be working in a certain geography in Delhi I landed up my first job being there.
[00:44:45] So many many many years back I realized this is a point planning because things will life will take its own turn and you will only remain at or you will only have a missed expectation of from yourself. But that's what it is. Yeah. What about you,
[00:45:05] I don't know after becoming a mother all the fears are attached to my child. I mean the fear of me not being around my child someday, you know I've always felt that
[00:45:16] you know I have no then when you're praying over time or that your God you know keep my child say that I pray for myself also keep me healing hearty till my child needs me.
[00:45:24] Chaloo 18th of Hoja, it's about if something has to happen to me. I want to be there with my child. The fear of not being able to hold him I want him to fall and learn and you know be on his own.
[00:45:35] But just the fear of not being around him it just yeah. So mother who is palpable. Yeah. Yeah all the time he's my he's my strength also but my biggest weakness too. So in that case are there any biases you've seen yourself breaking through from anything that you've
[00:45:55] held for yourself far too long you've conversed and talked yourself into it. Can't you hear me? Yeah, I'm not saying yeah, I won't have you really seen that pattern and then
[00:46:05] you've seen breaking of that pattern. Yeah I think you hold on to your beliefs over a long period of time and sometimes things doesn't turn out to be things turn out right. I would never let go my belief
[00:46:19] for a year but I've started letting go of my belief and revisit them and start taking new beliefs because it's fine everything is evolving. So my fear less this 40th of the matter is.
[00:46:29] Cool cool. My first brother, Diti, my major fear of unknown your fear of anxiety uncertainty plan but I realized that everything is uncertain beyond a point. How much can you control? You can't control anything. Yeah. So I started living in the moment living by the day
[00:46:44] and I reset the clock every morning, beautiful. And whatever happens for example like I was giving an example of a hospital staple two months the last year it wasn't we didn't see it coming.
[00:46:56] It just happened so you just manage your way through that's what happened. I never thought my mother would ever leave but she left us one day. So you start taking things differently. Yeah,
[00:47:07] yeah. A lot of wisdom there. How would you say? I don't know never thought into this very deeply I'll be very honest but like do you see yourself doing something which have not done because you thought
[00:47:20] you'll never be able to do it. I would like to take you to a very simple thing like you know before becoming mothers again the mommy mommy is awake but you know I will bring up my child like
[00:47:32] this no TV not at all screen time not at all I'll be engaging I'll make these games in all you know here. But we want a point I'm given up because we are also of course you know you
[00:47:45] realize that yes we have planned kids late. You know grandparents and our elders when they say plan you know on a time yeah there is some sense to this madness there is because your patience
[00:47:57] level your recovery level everything changes and everything is delayed now. I don't have the patience you know to play with my child for more than one hour or two hour then a 25 year old mind
[00:48:08] yeah or I don't have the energy and stamina to run for and you know and play for both of them. Yeah. So I have broken that I mean there's nothing too deep into this but yeah if I'm working
[00:48:19] or if I'm you know busy with my own thing okay you want to watch TV just watch it's okay 15 days of holiday half the January deli schools are shut because of windows. What are you going to do?
[00:48:31] So yeah that is something so you have let go that expectation from yourself and I don't blame myself I'm unapologetic it's okay. Yeah it's okay. Sorry but I do want to acknowledge this I have a fear of
[00:48:44] height. I take me to the first level and I look down and I'll be petrified with whatever is. You know these days there are lifts which are transparent lifts and they're on the outside.
[00:48:55] It's scary. Once I took care of my fear which was deep down there from my childhood and perhaps because of an incident that happened in the childhood. I was very scared of water.
[00:49:06] Yeah. But I learned swimming and I took that fear out so I think over a period of time you learn to face the fear head on and yeah find a mechanism to it that's the whole idea that
[00:49:19] even if you see yourself trapped in a pattern of a fear your response mechanism the new kind of identify and thread it out that yeah what has this other is other. What will you do?
[00:49:30] Anyway, what will happen but I haven't been able to crack the high. I'm sure when once you scale new heights in life you will be definitely failed it is. I feel after after a certain age
[00:49:44] yes we do find the courage to face it probably because we get the right anchor. It makes a huge difference you know probably when we were growing up say you're in a boarding school there are
[00:49:53] some things you know you couldn't do there are some decisions you couldn't take. Now yes at this age of course with them you know maturity and all I can but maybe I have the right anchors also
[00:50:04] to support me or fall back on yeah that makes a huge difference. Yeah I feel nothing we can do just on our goal. There are always energies you know I would call it energy because it can be a feeling
[00:50:16] it can be a person yeah it can be a situation that you know Karoya Maro Valas situation can be a person yeah so you go and you don't have to do anything. Yeah and I think it's a it's
[00:50:25] it's all though nobody's asking me un-solicited advice but I would like to ask you what can I know. I know that I have a very basic response. That you know at this moment you would want to keep evolving you would want to keep learning
[00:50:50] you would want to keep breaking the pattern you would want to keep running with the flow because you have so many new places to discover and I think that wisdom comes when you sit in a place
[00:51:02] of reflection and say here it's been far too long I've helped with this. I'm going to see that I can decide what kind of thing is the only constant thing. And of course then there
[00:51:12] is coming of the force. The minute you intended the minute you will it so to your question I can respond that the minute you would really want to lead that fear because maybe that's become
[00:51:23] a comfort space for you. The minute you would will it it will happen. Yeah I don't think I'm working on it. Yeah yeah or maybe when you have to do it. Yeah and you know when life is you know
[00:51:34] choice. Don't even say that. And life is one thing that they come to stay don't even say that. We call indomely. So some of the fear less some of the absolute unabashed women who have led away
[00:51:50] for you in your life. I would start with my psychology professor. Yeah I mean she has been my idol. My psychology professor Shweta Mamm. She's like the friend philosopher guide in my life.
[00:52:07] You know path breaking views opinions, you know she has very few I was just telling her you know during our break time that very few people have seen us make mistakes. We don't make mistakes
[00:52:20] in front of a lot of people. We don't say yes I'm guilty. I've done it and judge me. So I have made you know mistake you know because very in school and college and all you're all
[00:52:32] in that growing stage. You know mistakes to whom you belong. Yeah yeah but at this stage when we're all mothers and we are entering our 40s we all have that perfect persona. So she has seen me
[00:52:45] in my verse. I mean you know during the f- and till now I mean till now if I have a breakdown moment or if I don't know where you know sometimes you know the answer. We want somebody to tell you but
[00:52:55] sometimes there is no way out. So she has she's blessed and I'm sure she is an anchor for a lot of students. But she's blessed to find a positive in everything. I don't know how she does it. So
[00:53:08] she has really made me believe in me that you can do this, you can do this, you have the calmer. Oh my god and then some that love love love love. So she's one of those very very inspiring people.
[00:53:19] Yeah up was your parents are there. My grandmother always she worked till you know very very late. Now my mother is also an inspiration. Yeah what about you painting? I think my mom has been
[00:53:33] the pillar of strength for me. I have just loved her the way she was when she was there. Very simple very simple very compassionate very selfless. She would be unflinched with any adversity of life completely unflinched. I didn't know how did she do it. If I could be 1%
[00:53:55] or what she was I think this lifetime will be successful for me. So she has a indelible mark on me. She has left me with a lot of big white to fill and by the way my new company
[00:54:11] is in loving memory of my mother. Yeah tell us about tell us about that journey also please. So I think a couple of years back I wanted to give back to my parents who have made such a big
[00:54:24] difference to me. So I wanted to start I was undecided should I do it from a father for it to be correct. He is an usher and I should do it from a mother. Given the elder he being the elder.
[00:54:35] But I thought I love my mother way too much. I love my dad but I think I loved her too much and how could I give it back to her in this lifetime. So I came up with the
[00:54:49] I said I want to start something of my own and this company or the new company that I have point is for pre-share words management private I met her. How do I associate her with this?
[00:55:01] So I spend almost a month on the half thinking about what name should I give this to the company. Okay and I still have that diary in which I wrote almost like 7500 names. What?
[00:55:11] And my 7500 names to come out with because I wanted it to be the perfect and somewhere in between I created a cocktail of my name and my mother's name. That's how pre-share came.
[00:55:24] So pre-share pre-stance for my name and SHA stands for her mother's name Sharda. So that's how it came up. And the rest 75 or 99 did matter to me after that. So this is you know she is looking.
[00:55:39] I hope I've made her happy and I'll make a more happy if I can make this as a success in the coming years. We are absolutely sure about this and much more and to scaling many many new heights for you to
[00:55:52] get to that level of happiness and soaring it. So what about you? Any any one in the family or any it could be even a fictional character for all you know it could be even
[00:56:05] author living or dead who has inspired you on your journey. Are you a reader? Do you do like to read? I find my inspiration in movies to be there. Any character? I mean not exactly character of course everybody talks about Rajesh Khama.
[00:56:28] You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know that. You know, I mean, Sushthita Sen, you know the way she carries herself. The way she's been unabashedly, you know, unapologetically herself. You know, the way she's like even in movies, you know,
[00:56:48] I really look up to her as a woman, you know, like taking a decision of adopting to daughter that's a age and living life on your own terms. It's not easy. We all want to we all want to do whatever we want to do but it's not easy.
[00:57:02] Yeah. So yeah, but I find my you know, my inspiration changes to be very honest. It might not be a very common which is fine. You know, sometimes a small child, you know, sometimes my son inspires me. It's amazing how kids love us unconditioned.
[00:57:16] You know, we know somebody's route to us or does not listen to us over time. We've hold that Rajesh's grown ups, you know, but we I might lose it on my child someday, but only once in the end of the day
[00:57:29] he'll just come and give me a tight heart. Oh, you have a long day you come back home. He inspires me. My son, R.R. is he's very sensitive. He's a very sensitive child. And it's strange that, you know,
[00:57:41] one day I'm like, oh, I love you and all, you know, normal and son cutly talks and he's like, oh, my, you know, I can't exist without you. Oh, he sits. So it's just that kids sometimes say a
[00:57:53] big thing that you realize the world's of wisdom. But we have a big responsibility and they are looking at us and growing. Yeah. So, and they say, you know, kids don't listen to follow. They follow.
[00:58:04] Absolutely inspires me a lot. Yeah. Anyone who has been a personal inspiration to you in terms of maybe an author, writer, maybe a Hollywood star, any character? Oh, lots of them. I think I'm not very
[00:58:18] fond of fiction. Okay. In general, so I think I have grown up reading a lot of autobiographies and biography. Anybody who has been someone has gone through lots of ups and downs. And I was trying to figure
[00:58:32] out answers for my own question by reading those books. So those have been my inspirations about from obviously the family and the friends. Yeah. Yeah. So this kind of sums up our journey about being unbound, about being an, a basket being unstoppable in the circumstances life and
[00:58:51] event where you are. But before we come to the RAF there is a special fireside chat or rapid reflects it out as I like to call it. So this is just a curation of, you know, quick volume of
[00:59:09] questions. I'm going to throw on each of you. Maybe one question to you and one to you. Or would you want to answer the same question with your own thing? However, so it's okay. So the same
[00:59:20] question and you could be giving your answers. Try and limit it to one word. Maximum a sentence. So are you ready for this? It's easier to watch it on a TV. No, no, we'll make it, we'll make it fun
[00:59:34] for you. So never have you ever just complete this sentence, actually. Oh God. Give me a lead time. For sure signature. Okay, never. Yeah, I guess the same. No, you can't copy a sentence. Lots of things. I can't pick one. Beginning? Bunk classes. Never ever, ever,
[01:00:03] okay. No judgments. All right, life to you is just one word. Try every day. Being there done that. Okay. If not doing what you're doing right now, what would you be?
[01:00:18] I would love to be acting on the edge of the stage. I would love to be back in my theater days. Okay. I think I have only been wanting to lead something. So
[01:00:30] one of the dreams that I've seen for years together is to lead a bank. If I wasn't running my own company, then eventually my thoughts would have been to lead a bank in the coming year. In Charlotte to that, it also all right.
[01:00:43] One thing that is a must do first thing in the morning for you. Try to snooze my button. I put three alarms in the morning and I don't think so. I get up even on the third one
[01:00:58] because I sleep very late and I've got less hours of sleep. So every morning perpetually, I would snooze and snooze. Okay. One thing which is a must do as a as a bed time ritual.
[01:01:11] Pray. I mean it can be a 30 second. Thank you also. But just just 30 second point. Yeah, I make sure that my dad is stuck up very nicely in the bed and I say goodbye to him. Then
[01:01:24] I do spend a lot of fast reading and studying something. Okay. But one of the days like she mentioned, you need to unwind yourself. I think Sunday is my Chite where I not only watch an OTT but also dive into some spoons of ice cream. That's a must.
[01:01:44] One guilty pleasure. Give a loud yourself. Maggie and how it's it's. Well, everybody has their own versions of Maggie. But it is the happiest breakfast time. Yeah. I think I would go by ice cream like I said. I'm really fond of ice cream and every Sunday,
[01:02:05] no matter what throughout, you know, we've seen Delhi winters that becoming a cute over the period of time. I picked this habit up a year and a half back. Not a single day goes by. Not a single Sunday goes by
[01:02:18] where I don't take an ice cream even in peak winter. Oh my God. But then I supplement it with hot water or coffee. I'm very eventually just to make sure that the system is good or right. So you've already
[01:02:29] stolen my next question. I was about to ask food to you. It's oh, food to his reason to live. Oh my God. I live to eat. I don't eat to live. I have to admit I'm complete opposite of her.
[01:02:42] I never used to like food. Because it would intervene in the process of studying or working. Oh my God. So for me, it was completely the opposite and but how do you describe it? Food to you is one word.
[01:02:54] What did you say? Distraction? No, no. It is a complete disaster. I guess I eat to live. That extent not live to eat. But in pandemic, I also picked up a very good healthy habit.
[01:03:08] I reduced the birth and it's very hard to sustain it. So for sustenance, less food is good. All right. Fun to you is music and your closest closest people. You know, it can be closest family
[01:03:26] members or your core, you know, core. Okay. How about you? Many things but I think I quite like the five star had I'm not propagating that do nothing. Okay. That's luxury. That's luxury. Home to you is my family. Just us, just us. I think heaven.
[01:03:52] All right and just on the wrap up one inspiring note that you would like to leave our viewers, men, women, everyone on the block. Change makers, leaders, everyone. Be financially independent.
[01:04:10] It can be, you know, it need not be in millions or whatever. You know, we're not counting numbers here. But just do something. Find your passion. Do something on your own. It's very important
[01:04:24] to have spaces between you togetherness and to find that space in your work and that's your space. Only yours. Nobody's there. And it's your accomplishment, you know, you love yourself doing that. It's something you've target, you know, you have set it target for yourself. Yeah. It's very important,
[01:04:40] you know, in today's day, and each gone other days was a man and he called me and said, it's a challenge. It's very important with all your respect to those who aren't or those who
[01:04:49] are not able to. I'm sure people have their own many reasons, many reasons. Yeah. We have to have our own workspace. What about you, pretty one, inspiring coat or thought you would like to leave us?
[01:05:00] I give you two. They're kind of bonus. Yeah. I have to kind of work in parallel for me. Be the change you want to see. Yeah. Right. I mean, nobody's going to drive the change for you, but just so
[01:05:10] absolutely that torchbearder. And the second is, never take no for an answer. Everything in this life has a solution. You just have to figure it out. Yeah. Totally. And I think with that, you two have brilliantly come unbound and bound on the show
[01:05:30] unbound on this special. Thank you so much for sharing all your journeys, your challenges, your fears and totally being this bindas, unfiltered leaders. We have really learnt a lot from you today.
[01:05:43] Any good word for the show or me? Yes, for you, for you. You have conducted this brilliantly like always. But, you know, I always tell Mumta we've been associated work once before. You know,
[01:05:56] you like meeting some people. You enjoy meeting some people. You have fun meeting some people. But it's therapeutic to meet you. Perhaps some energy. That means yes. No, but on a very serious mode, you know, what feels nice, cleansed, peaceful. Then, you know, I know there's no mask,
[01:06:13] you know, about this. So it's always a pleasure. Always a pleasure meeting you and of course collaborating with something like this. I'm very honored and thankful for you to consider me for in a episode like this. I love your application. You know, motivate one person one life.
[01:06:30] I think you've done something. Yeah. Thank you. I think it's all about learning from you. Thank you for the acknowledgement, you know, everyone. Yes, loves. So thank you. Yeah. You are doing a brilliant job both of you leading the change and making the change that we really
[01:06:45] want to see and inspiring us. So pretty any good word would be nice. Absolutely. This is our first run the woo and I'm sure many more to come. You have been a really nice lady.
[01:06:57] You've done a fantastic job with us. Thank you. You've done a fantastic job with us. Thank you. I'm giving us down for the last one hour. I was like one hour. Getting the best out of us. And
[01:07:07] I think you bring a lot on the table in terms of, you know, collaborations and making a shine. It's all because of you. Oh, thank you so much. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, really. I mean,
[01:07:21] the spotlight is always on you on the guests who comes here. And that's the whole idea. Even to curate this series. The ideas to learn to inspire each other. And let's be with the white
[01:07:34] and the tribe that you love. Right? And the spotlight is on us. It's a very difficult and a brave task to put the spotlight and the crown from yours to somebody else. And I get good to it with
[01:07:45] so much perfection and with so much grace. It's not easy. That you, you, yourself are such a big a chever and you're on the my, you're an anchor host. But it's, it's not very easy to,
[01:07:57] you know, praise others all the time. And you do it genuinely and so nice. Thank you so much. It all comes from the heart. Like I said, there is no script. There is nothing that I can really go
[01:08:06] back. One day and of course it is the team. I think the warmth and the love that everybody brings in. It's, it's, it's everybody's passion. Thank you. Can we have unbound. Let's keep unbounding together.
[01:08:20] Let's say that one to three. Let's keep unbounding together. Pretty. We want you. Okay. You can cut one to three. Let's go. Let's eat unbounding together. Thank you so much for listening to today's episode. I would love to know from you what idea or
[01:08:43] insight you unbox from today's conversation. Just drop your message over LinkedIn or in my inbox and remember to follow this podcast so that when the next episode drops, you can join me for yet another one too. Keep coming and keep unbounding. Till then, this is your host,
[01:09:02] Mubta signing off.