This week we discuss India’s tour of Sri Lanka as India tie both the third T20I and the first ODI while a loss in the second ODI sees them facing a first ODI series loss against Sri Lanka since 1997. Can Rohit Sharma’s men prevent the #IndvSL series loss?
[00:00:01] Cricket Podcast. I'm your host Ashwin. I'm joined by DJ. DJ, it's a Sunday afternoon at
[00:00:18] the time of recording or evening for you now. Usually you're playing cricket. Are you not
[00:00:21] playing today? Is all the sporting fever mean that's all the world of sport activity
[00:00:25] that's going on means you guys got to break from cricket because I think you scored
[00:00:28] an insane century or something last week. We're going to talk Sunday league first before
[00:00:32] we get to what's really happening in the world of cricket. How are you doing?
[00:00:36] Yeah, I mean I'm okay man. We are in you get dropped after a century is that what
[00:00:40] happened? No, I mean that would be pretty harsh that would be kind of like a
[00:00:43] Ambatirayidu type of treatment. Karun Nayar triple century. He is the actual guy.
[00:00:50] That's it. I scored a hundred ones and got dropped. No we don't have a game this weekend.
[00:00:54] That's okay. I've got a game next weekend so I probably won't make the podcast next weekend.
[00:01:00] But yeah, I mean I got lucky to get some runs this season. I mean not out at the end
[00:01:07] made a phenomenal and anyway lots of the world of sport where I feel like India
[00:01:14] has since we last recorded played a T20 tied that T20. We'll spend a lot of time
[00:01:20] talking about that one because it's ridiculous obviously wanted a super
[00:01:22] over then played an ODI and said you know what we kind of like this
[00:01:26] type is to what do we do it again got another tie but no super over in the
[00:01:31] ODI which is interesting so the matches ended tight and then absolutely got
[00:01:34] pummeled but to be honest there's so much happening in the world of sport.
[00:01:38] India has just beaten Great Britain in a and I don't know why the Olympics is
[00:01:45] played as Great Britain instead of England or the UK you can probably
[00:01:48] explain that better than most why football is played as England but the
[00:01:52] Olympics is great scripted but anyway India won in hockey so it's now
[00:01:56] one win away from a medal which is going to be awesome. I think they won in
[00:01:59] Tokyo as well so that's going to be great. Joakovic is just won another big gold
[00:02:03] medal for the first time so I've been overwhelmed honestly with sport I've
[00:02:06] been watching swimming and fencing and of course archery and shooting and
[00:02:10] stuff where India has had some Olympic hopefuls and couple of bronze
[00:02:13] medals but have you been watching much of the industry like a cricket series
[00:02:17] it sort of feels I guess I should start by saying LA 2028 in four years
[00:02:22] cricket will be in the Olympics so we won't have this world where for the
[00:02:26] first time right or first time returning since 1900 or something when
[00:02:29] they played it. We won't have this world where there's amazing gold
[00:02:33] medal matches on TV and yet you got a pan over to Colombo to watch 50 over
[00:02:37] cricket so yeah how do you feel it's been going?
[00:02:42] So actually it's been fine because of course the T20 games didn't really
[00:02:47] clash with the Olympics proper. I've been watching a lot of the gymnastics
[00:02:53] the swimming so I started identifying some of the...
[00:02:58] The swimming has been amazing.
[00:03:00] Yeah it has been great including the Chinese swimmer that broke the world
[00:03:03] record and was immediately accused of cheating by his Western counterpart
[00:03:10] which is pretty ridiculous frankly. No the cricket 50 over game right so
[00:03:16] it's actually quite nice because you can switch over to other sports come back
[00:03:19] and not much has changed so this morning I watched the hockey which was an
[00:03:23] absolutely I mean hats off to Shri Jaish and team man I mean unbelievable
[00:03:30] composure unbelievable stamina they were down to nine men against 11
[00:03:35] at one point and we're not a hockey podcast but I think this was one
[00:03:39] of the most exciting matches I've ever watched they managed to take it to
[00:03:43] penalties and the penalties the way the Indian players executed those was just
[00:03:50] it was clinical and it was beautiful to watch and yeah I mean I live in England
[00:03:56] which is part of Great Britain not to be confused with the United Kingdom.
[00:04:03] But I'm not crazy right the FIFA World Cup you have England the cricket
[00:04:06] World Cup you have England because Scotland plays separately.
[00:04:09] England and Wales don't forget.
[00:04:11] And Wales plays football separately though.
[00:04:15] In the Olympics they all play together under the Great Britain flag.
[00:04:19] Correct.
[00:04:21] Which is a whole different thing because the Olympics you have like Puerto Rico
[00:04:24] which is part of the United States.
[00:04:26] Andy Murray has been playing for Great Britain by Scottish.
[00:04:28] Yeah anyway keep going yeah.
[00:04:30] So no watch the hockey team back into the cricket Sri Lanka did pretty well
[00:04:37] today but we should talk I mean we're going all over the place to be honest
[00:04:41] and we will try to structure to this.
[00:04:44] The 50 over games that we've watched they've been pretty close.
[00:04:49] I predicted the three zero whitewash in the T20 series.
[00:04:53] I'm pretty happy that one came.
[00:04:54] Does it count do you get that so let's if you're if you're placing
[00:04:58] a bet in countries where betting is legal a tie and super over win
[00:05:01] doesn't mean you don't mean you win the bet.
[00:05:03] You don't lose it you get your initial money back.
[00:05:05] Yeah but it's a push.
[00:05:07] What's the series score say.
[00:05:10] Yeah it will say three zero but super over feels like a kind of cheating
[00:05:13] way and you also did you also predict no Varun predicted three zero
[00:05:16] in the ODIs and he's already wrong.
[00:05:18] Yeah but there's no chance even I predicted two one which is
[00:05:21] technically gone now.
[00:05:22] No not going to happen.
[00:05:24] Best case scenario for India is one one but yeah.
[00:05:26] Now we should talk the T20 though because that what's been defining
[00:05:29] in this tour has been the bitches and I've kind of enjoyed these
[00:05:34] low scoring games.
[00:05:35] So let's talk the T20.
[00:05:36] Yeah let's talk about it.
[00:05:37] Varun and I chatted and I asked him and I think we both knew it was
[00:05:41] unlikely but I said listen if it was your team and you're here
[00:05:43] coming in etc after two zero what do you do.
[00:05:46] You persist a little start to have these guys start to cement
[00:05:50] their foundation as a team under sky younger younger team etc.
[00:05:56] Or do you say we won the series two zero.
[00:05:58] Let's make some changes and Varun said I would like to see them
[00:05:59] persist and of course they made four changes.
[00:06:02] Rishabh went out.
[00:06:03] Samson ended up keeping Akshar Hardik both all runners out in
[00:06:08] came Shivam Dubey and Washington Sundar and then Arsadeep went
[00:06:11] out and Khalil came in.
[00:06:13] So it was interesting obviously we said already ended in a tie
[00:06:16] India made 137 Sri Lanka absolutely should have chased it
[00:06:20] down absolutely should have chased it down.
[00:06:22] I think the equation at one point which feels very very
[00:06:26] very familiar was needed 30 off 30 not only 30 of 30
[00:06:32] which is very recent to drive away but actually it was nine
[00:06:35] wickets in hand.
[00:06:36] Yeah.
[00:06:36] And very interesting to see at you know when it was 24
[00:06:42] needed actually no sorry when it's 30 of 30 the choice of
[00:06:47] bowlers and how they finished but we'll come back to that.
[00:06:50] The first thing I want to ask you about the batting not a lot
[00:06:52] to write home about again tough picket tough tough pitches
[00:06:56] Shuman got some runs lower order made some runs such as
[00:07:00] Samson back to back back so I think he's now got two
[00:07:03] opportunities a series and made zero in five balls out twice.
[00:07:10] Why don't I talk to briefly last week I just what do you what
[00:07:13] do you do with this guy.
[00:07:14] He's so freaking good in the IPL and excellent skipper
[00:07:18] and yet repeatedly I'm being harsh because he has had
[00:07:21] good performances in Indian colors but yet repeatedly he
[00:07:23] wears the Indian jersey and seems like a completely
[00:07:26] different player.
[00:07:28] It is hard luck or is it just is it just the nature of not
[00:07:32] getting many opportunities so that when you do you're not
[00:07:34] fully ready and then you just I don't know what there's
[00:07:38] what do you what are your thoughts on that I guess is
[00:07:40] my question.
[00:07:42] Yeah the trouble with these trophies these bilateral
[00:07:45] trophies is you play two three games you get a couple
[00:07:48] of games and he's got another break and you forgot what
[00:07:51] he's done.
[00:07:53] So you're just a little bit by your numbers and P 20 is a
[00:07:56] game like that.
[00:07:57] You could get a couple of ducks in a row I think sky at one
[00:08:00] point it was one day as picked up three ducks in a row at
[00:08:04] one point.
[00:08:05] And you can get on a bad straight.
[00:08:07] I don't think he's I mean there's no class question
[00:08:10] about his class or his caliber his capability like
[00:08:12] Samson can take on the best bowlers in the world and
[00:08:15] deposit them all over the park.
[00:08:18] I think it's a question of him.
[00:08:22] The issue right for Sanju is that he feels the pressure
[00:08:25] of having to displace the incumbent wicketkeeper which
[00:08:30] will be Rishaband and you listed out the various
[00:08:33] replacements it's all like for like replacements.
[00:08:35] So Sanju Samson is auditioning directly for
[00:08:38] Rishaband spot and if you're not this fully
[00:08:40] fit he's a World Cup T 20 winner.
[00:08:43] And he's not really in the ODI.
[00:08:46] We should come to that as to why he's not.
[00:08:51] But I think Samson felt a little bit of pressure and
[00:08:55] maybe that's told against him.
[00:08:57] He's a good enough player to make this team just as
[00:08:59] a batter to be honest as a T 20 batter he doesn't
[00:09:04] need to be a keeper it's a bonus he can keep.
[00:09:06] But as long as Pankaj in form and in fit and in
[00:09:09] the in the in the side it's difficult for him
[00:09:12] to break through.
[00:09:13] So I think he feels a bit of that pressure
[00:09:15] because it feels like no matter what he does he
[00:09:19] will still be behind Rishaband that doesn't help
[00:09:22] him when he doesn't do anything at all.
[00:09:25] Yeah I mean as now you've observed in the ODI
[00:09:27] as they've prioritised K.L. Rahul obviously
[00:09:29] come here's first in this ODI coach Rohit
[00:09:33] and as captain they're trying to they're trying
[00:09:35] to look to the 25 Champions Trophy.
[00:09:36] That's just how these cycles work right.
[00:09:38] The minute the T 20 World Cup ended they're
[00:09:40] thinking what do we want to be doing in ODI
[00:09:42] so the 25 Champions Trophy now didn't start very well
[00:09:46] and will come to the ODIs but you don't really see
[00:09:48] something in that setup either.
[00:09:50] So if he's not able to cement a position either
[00:09:53] as a batter or as a wicked keeper batter short
[00:09:56] of being injured it looks tough for him
[00:09:58] and yes you can sit here and say 14 IPL games
[00:10:01] he does well two outings on India colors
[00:10:03] he doesn't but that's the nature of this game.
[00:10:05] I mean that's the nature of the sport right
[00:10:07] in the Olympics you train you train you train
[00:10:09] for four years and then sometimes in the
[00:10:10] gymnastics the events are like eight years
[00:10:12] and you fall you miss one one grip on a bar
[00:10:16] or something and that's the end of your season.
[00:10:17] So and the Samsung tragedy is that even if it's
[00:10:21] scored say I don't know 50 of 25 would that have
[00:10:25] guaranteed him a spot in the next starting 11.
[00:10:27] Yeah no it just creates more questions
[00:10:29] and more headaches and at this point
[00:10:30] he hasn't created a headache unfortunate yet.
[00:10:33] But like I said India went under my count
[00:10:36] in 37 I want to relive the last bit of it
[00:10:38] with you because the ODIs don't have
[00:10:40] that much exciting to talk about so we're
[00:10:41] going to go through the T20s together.
[00:10:42] DJ I said 30 of 30 Ravi Bishnoy
[00:10:46] I think has two overs left or has his last
[00:10:48] over left and Sky shirt throws up to him.
[00:10:50] Okay he manages to get Kosal Mendes out
[00:10:53] 43 who made 43 great runs both the Kosals
[00:10:56] vending at this point Mendes and Pereira
[00:10:58] and he gets Kosal Mendes out right
[00:11:01] and finishes his spell 23 of 24 needed
[00:11:03] Washington Sundar at this point
[00:11:05] has also one over left by the way
[00:11:08] if I'm looking down at the scorecard
[00:11:10] I think at this point you had our specialist bowler
[00:11:14] so Khalil had one and one left
[00:11:18] and two left excuse me
[00:11:21] Siraj had one left
[00:11:24] and Sundar and Vishnu I mentioned
[00:11:27] that one each left right so you had
[00:11:29] you had two quick specialist bowlers
[00:11:30] but obviously the pitch was spinning
[00:11:31] like you mentioned etc.
[00:11:33] Okay so Washington Sundar comes in
[00:11:36] great decision it looks like
[00:11:37] picks up two wickets Hassaranga gets out
[00:11:39] on a duck collapse seems like it's on
[00:11:42] finishes over 21 needed of 18
[00:11:44] you still have two Khalil overs left
[00:11:47] and you have Siraj over so logically
[00:11:49] you're going probably Khalil Siraj Khalil
[00:11:52] finish it off okay 21 of 18
[00:11:54] you know what happens everybody who's listening knows it now
[00:11:57] Khalil comes on I'm gonna just run through this quickly
[00:12:00] single wide and they ran
[00:12:03] single wide wide
[00:12:06] single double wide
[00:12:10] wide dot and single
[00:12:13] I mean what
[00:12:14] he did this recently against the Rajasthan Royals as well
[00:12:19] do you remember for Delhi
[00:12:20] it's just unbelievable
[00:12:22] he bowls so many whites at the death
[00:12:24] because I think he started to execute a plan
[00:12:25] but it was like it was ridiculous
[00:12:27] yeah but yeah he had one over left at the end
[00:12:30] yeah that's what yeah because the logical thing
[00:12:33] would have been for him if he'd bowl this one
[00:12:35] well to get in the last over
[00:12:37] yes so he doesn't bowl this one well
[00:12:39] and now you're thinking as sky is a new captain
[00:12:41] now you went from potentially defendable to 9 of 12
[00:12:45] you have a Siraj over
[00:12:47] you have a Khalil over obviously you can't bowl right away
[00:12:51] for everybody who happened to have missed it
[00:12:54] what did Sky do at this point
[00:12:56] who did he call
[00:12:58] I think he took his team shape
[00:13:00] and he's like this game is gone anyway
[00:13:02] I'm just going to point to the next team
[00:13:05] she can give them the ball
[00:13:07] and they can have a half and over
[00:13:09] and we'll all go home
[00:13:11] and lo and behold
[00:13:12] lo and behold
[00:13:14] do the batter who's been at the crease
[00:13:16] for more than half the innings of this point
[00:13:18] Kusal Parer has on strike
[00:13:20] the off spin of Rinku Singh
[00:13:22] comes on to get the ball
[00:13:24] in the penultimate over of the game
[00:13:25] this isn't even the way we're despite
[00:13:27] dot ball
[00:13:28] wicked Kusal Parer
[00:13:30] who's been betting for this and this is how it goes
[00:13:32] and they kind of you see the camera pan to come here
[00:13:35] come here's got this cheeky smile on his face
[00:13:38] Rinku Kekotan bold gets the wicked
[00:13:41] then single double dot gets another wicked
[00:13:45] so at this point
[00:13:47] Sri Lanka went from 9 of 12 to 6 of 6
[00:13:50] and Rinku Singh statistics read 1 over
[00:13:52] 2 for 3
[00:13:54] absolutely brilliant
[00:13:58] 20th over you're thinking now
[00:14:00] Siraj or Khalil both available
[00:14:03] but Rinku's kind of come out of nowhere
[00:14:06] and pulled off some magic as well
[00:14:09] big ones with spin
[00:14:11] you just get notified by the way
[00:14:13] slow your over rate was slow enough
[00:14:15] so you're only allowed 4 guys outside
[00:14:17] Siraj is warming up
[00:14:19] ready to go
[00:14:20] and what happens again
[00:14:22] is it another team sheet of point
[00:14:23] or what's going on at this point
[00:14:24] with 6 to defend
[00:14:26] I don't know like Sky
[00:14:28] is just like okay I've been slow
[00:14:31] with the field placing
[00:14:32] so I'll take the last over
[00:14:34] and I'll take all the blame for this loss
[00:14:36] is the only thing I can think of
[00:14:38] I think he's over 5 overs in his domestic career
[00:14:42] Siraj I don't know how much he's bold in his domestic career
[00:14:44] he has never ever taken a T20 wicket before
[00:14:47] or T20 i wicket at least
[00:14:49] he is bold
[00:14:52] in ODIs he is bold 12 balls
[00:14:55] in IPL cricket he is bold 12 balls
[00:14:58] 1 over 0 for 8 in IPL
[00:15:00] 1 over 0 for 17 in ODIs
[00:15:03] and I don't have these domestic stats just in front of us
[00:15:06] but after 2007
[00:15:09] and the Joginder Sharma pick
[00:15:11] for the last over against Pakistan
[00:15:13] in the final at Jobal
[00:15:15] this was almost certainly
[00:15:17] the most left field pick
[00:15:19] for a final over
[00:15:21] it was a bilateral where we had won the series
[00:15:23] I mean that Joginder was a little more at stake
[00:15:26] correct but all the T20s played between then and now
[00:15:30] can you think of one more left field pick that has come off?
[00:15:34] no absolutely not
[00:15:36] so Skykicks a ball himself
[00:15:38] bolts a dot ball
[00:15:40] gets a wicket
[00:15:41] Rinku Singh actually who bold the penalty over catches this one
[00:15:44] off of a reverse slug
[00:15:47] like absolutely horrendous shot
[00:15:49] goes to 6 from 4
[00:15:51] and he gets the next to get again
[00:15:53] down the down leg side
[00:15:55] brushes the glove good catch from Samsung
[00:15:58] and now Sky is on a hat trick
[00:16:00] doesn't get it
[00:16:02] gives up a single 2 and then 2 again on the last ball
[00:16:05] and Sky has now bought so Rinku Singh's
[00:16:07] figures read 1 over 2 for 3
[00:16:09] Sky is now read 1 over 2 for 5
[00:16:12] I mean from 30 of 30 with that
[00:16:15] it just sounds like
[00:16:17] you wouldn't write this story because people would say
[00:16:19] this is insane nobody would ever do this
[00:16:21] but Rinku and Sky bolted the last couple of overs
[00:16:24] obviously goes to a super over and they don't give it to either of those guys
[00:16:27] they give it to who was the best spinner on the day
[00:16:30] and that was Washington Sundar
[00:16:32] picked up 2 for 23 in his 4 overs
[00:16:35] ends up bowling a wide
[00:16:37] gives a single and then gets 2 wickets in 2 walls
[00:16:40] and remember in a super over you don't get to face all 6 balls
[00:16:43] if 2 wickets fall so they make they get all out for 2
[00:16:46] and then Sky the bowler who bolted the last over
[00:16:49] walks out with Gill
[00:16:51] hits a boundary for the first ball and finishes it off
[00:16:53] I mean
[00:16:55] so I guess DJ unbelievable
[00:16:57] fun to kind of relive but unbelievable to see how that all worked right
[00:17:00] India was 30 for 4
[00:17:02] 48 for 5
[00:17:04] makes 137 things so low or
[00:17:06] but Parag played well by the way
[00:17:08] both with the bat and the ball
[00:17:10] excellent not very un-prag and Varuna I talked quite a bit about him last week
[00:17:13] great series over all for him in a tough in tough conditions
[00:17:16] I mean
[00:17:18] a good win I mean
[00:17:21] I don't know what to say about it to be honest
[00:17:23] I guess my question for you is come here
[00:17:25] we talked a lot about come here
[00:17:27] and what we think he bring in
[00:17:29] his tone his tonality gets older players etc. before
[00:17:33] is this a come here thing is this a sky thing is it both
[00:17:36] is it
[00:17:37] was it with it really truly just having some fun
[00:17:39] and it worked and how they're going to say or is it truly the effect that Varun has talked about
[00:17:42] on the show for many many many years which is
[00:17:44] you need seven or eight guys who can play all around so even if we will bowl
[00:17:48] very very rarely having him as an option
[00:17:51] having sky's a bowling option changes your potential 11
[00:17:55] significantly thought
[00:17:58] I mean it's a totally different way of playing T20 cricket
[00:18:01] from the way we've been playing it in the past I think Rihanna Parag
[00:18:05] has had a great series
[00:18:07] I think a lot of this
[00:18:10] and I'm sure you know the stats better than I do
[00:18:12] and you must have talked them in the first two T20s as well
[00:18:15] Sri Lanka has collapsed in every single T20
[00:18:18] the middle order hasn't fired
[00:18:21] they've melted under the pressure and over here as well
[00:18:24] they lost nine for
[00:18:27] 31
[00:18:28] yeah 30 I think
[00:18:30] 30 yeah 29 I guess right they needed 30 to win so
[00:18:33] yeah so absolutely absurd
[00:18:36] like chasing
[00:18:38] behavior and it's not even like remember there's no just
[00:18:41] or mama Chami playing in this game so I mean
[00:18:45] it would have been a totally different kettle of fish I think that had happened
[00:18:48] but no I think Sri Lanka contributed to their demise
[00:18:52] to a large extent in this game
[00:18:55] equally they probably too shocked
[00:18:58] when they went got the Super over they hit two balls
[00:19:01] go to the fielders
[00:19:03] and that was the end like and then sky hits one shot as you said
[00:19:07] and they miss field it should have been a dog for
[00:19:10] four and that's the end of the game
[00:19:13] just sloppy shabby
[00:19:15] can't feel for Sanat Jasuri sitting in that dugout watching this go
[00:19:18] he's like yeah it's very very dark yeah
[00:19:21] but yeah I think
[00:19:24] that game was gone with nine of twelve
[00:19:27] and Sri Lanka probably relaxed a little bit at that point
[00:19:31] and I mean it felt like one of those each side was giving
[00:19:34] they're giving it back right when Khalil came into ball
[00:19:37] didn't look so bad 21 to defend in 18
[00:19:40] in tough for kid and then he gave it a 12 half of much for whites
[00:19:43] I mean we were just throwing it at each other and then
[00:19:46] sky I just I can't believe Sky and Rinku pulled the last two
[00:19:49] or the whole that's the genius isn't it
[00:19:52] I agree I agree fully I don't know you feel
[00:19:55] like he's kind of captain that will try a random
[00:19:58] stuff and that was obviously the Dhoni touch
[00:20:01] that he would just do random things at the right time
[00:20:04] I'm not comparing the two because obviously one is very early on
[00:20:07] and how many seconds it's been since we spoke about Dhoni
[00:20:10] about 19 minutes so it's pretty good 21
[00:20:13] that's not too bad he's almost about to start
[00:20:16] unless CSK changed the rules just to retain him as an uncap player
[00:20:20] that is also potentially going to happen but maybe next week
[00:20:23] we'll talk about everything that's going to happen
[00:20:26] 30 win great start for the Gambhir Sky combo right
[00:20:29] agreed 30 win good for Sky I mean
[00:20:32] scrappy in some parts but honestly we have been yearning
[00:20:35] in T20 I mean if you could have told me at the start of the summer
[00:20:38] we would have won the T20 World Cup and been able to
[00:20:41] gift that if you will to Rohit and Kohli and then
[00:20:44] both Angel Asia and then all say alright thanks we're done now
[00:20:47] now we're letting the young blood come in young blood comes
[00:20:50] and Sky picks up captain C pick up a scrappy
[00:20:53] but efficient 30 win on the back in tough conditions on the back
[00:20:56] of trying new things that's best case scenario
[00:20:59] for me from a T20 side step we got to do both those things
[00:21:02] which was awesome yeah nice for Washi to come in
[00:21:05] and pick up with man of the match right agreed well
[00:21:09] well deserved alright DJ we talked more about the T20
[00:21:12] then we thought we're going to take a very quick break we'll be right back after this
[00:21:14] to talk about the ODIs which are a little less exciting
[00:21:17] so I saved last time for him don't go anywhere we'll be right back
[00:21:20] welcome back to the edges and sliders cricket podcast
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[00:21:50] DJ come into the ODIs very quickly then Rohit Shalma comes back in
[00:21:54] Virat Kohli comes back in not a lot of surprises in terms of
[00:21:58] the 11 except maybe once I'll run down the 11 that played in the first ODI
[00:22:02] and then I'll get your point of view so Rohit Shalma opening
[00:22:05] Virat 3 Shreyas 4 KL Rahul 5 Shivam Dubai 6
[00:22:10] and Washington Sundar got his look at 7
[00:22:12] and you had Akshar at 8 Kuldeep 9 then Arshdeep and Siraj to run out
[00:22:16] the two quickers quick spot so Rishabh misses out
[00:22:19] Khalil misses out and Rian Parag and Arshith Rana who were in the squad
[00:22:23] didn't get a look in for the first game we're happy with that
[00:22:27] 11 is you're thinking that Rahul at 5 is the move and maybe Rishabh's
[00:22:31] playing the two more extreme formats of our sport in the T20s and tests
[00:22:35] but they're saying Rahul is that good in ODIs and they want to keep him
[00:22:39] thoughts? I think Rahul is good in ODIs
[00:22:43] and you would like to keep him but why if you have Rishabh Panth
[00:22:47] on the bench would you... And I didn't hear
[00:22:50] maybe he was injured fatigued etc after
[00:22:53] we take for granted that he's back from what could have been a career injury
[00:22:58] not so much longer so it's possible after the T20s they wanted to give him a little bit more time
[00:23:02] but I'm not sure if that was it. I don't know I think
[00:23:06] I don't think I think he was dropped for KL being
[00:23:10] the first choice keeper. KL kept well during the World Cup
[00:23:14] don't get me wrong I mean KL I think Captain India in the South Africa series as well
[00:23:18] and Mosquitos captain did well. But if you have Rishabh
[00:23:22] back fully fit in firing to have that kind of
[00:23:26] firepower sitting on the bench to me sounds... Punk is a game changer man
[00:23:30] yes we call the Rishabh Punk show but and we've always been massive fans
[00:23:34] and the reason for that is he can change a game in
[00:23:38] a few overs and that
[00:23:42] is worth its weight in gold on kind of low scoring
[00:23:46] he saw that against Pakistan in the T20 World Cup where we struggled to
[00:23:50] 119 where he got 42 of 31 with a thousand chances but
[00:23:54] he took those chances his chances down and he's got the skill to pull it off
[00:23:58] more often than not. He's like that guy you know Panth and we have that guy in
[00:24:02] Gali cricket who's like okay so you moved a field of him here to there I'm going to hit it
[00:24:06] there where you move the field of from and Panth is good enough to do
[00:24:10] that in international cricket. That's the amazing
[00:24:14] part of him so I'm very interested to see whether he comes in for the third ODI because
[00:24:18] India are now staring at a series defeat. We'll get to that but
[00:24:22] I was disappointed not to see Panth there. Who
[00:24:26] spot does he take is the question right like with Pandya not playing
[00:24:30] ODI's, Dubé is playing
[00:24:34] we should talk about Dubé's spot as well. Shreyas Ayer is the other potential player
[00:24:38] that could miss out. I would pick to be honest
[00:24:42] between Ayer and Panth I would pick Panth and then it's actually
[00:24:46] a toss up between KL and Shreyas not
[00:24:50] Panth and KL. Interesting yeah
[00:24:54] yeah I mean not quite enough I think in these first
[00:24:58] two ODI's especially given the conditions to make selections off of
[00:25:02] ongoing but I think your point is valid and interesting
[00:25:06] so very quick 230 from Sri Lanka, good half centuries
[00:25:10] from Nesanka and then lower order from Dunit Vela who just had an
[00:25:14] absolutely outstanding knock. He was given out first ball I think to Washington
[00:25:18] he was given out and he reviewed and he was saved by
[00:25:22] the review. I mean you need to walk in at 101 for 5 and see more
[00:25:26] wickets fall on the other end at 140, 170 H, make 67
[00:25:30] at over 100 over a run of ball when nobody else struck anywhere close. He was outstanding
[00:25:34] honestly he was reverse sweeping, washy, he was cover driving, the spin
[00:25:38] the ball was spinning big let's not get that wrong and we should remember
[00:25:42] Sri Lanka won the toss in both ODI's back at first
[00:25:46] so they chose to back, they had a big advantage there let's not forget that.
[00:25:50] Yeah absolutely and India should have restricted them to sub 200 and if not for his
[00:25:54] innings they would have and then sort of an interesting similar template in both
[00:25:58] ODI's right so same 11 India played but
[00:26:02] Rohit got off to a flyer in both cases mid half centuries in both matches
[00:26:06] and he sort of said this in the press conference where he plays high risk, high
[00:26:10] over cricket that's the role he wants to play even in the ODI format get that he gets
[00:26:14] run but there's some risk with it. And India looked to be cruising to be honest
[00:26:18] and you know after about 12-13 overs Gil got out then Rohit
[00:26:22] got out pretty quickly after then Sundar came in at 4 which was an interesting choice
[00:26:26] and got out, Virat got out by the 23rd over and then we can just
[00:26:30] fall consistently still when Rahul and Aksha were banning you thought it was a done deal
[00:26:34] oh gosh they've both gotten out again relatively quickly I think 39.4
[00:26:38] and 40.5 so within 7 balls of each other and then you still felt like
[00:26:42] when Dubay was batting first with Kuldeep then with Serhad said it was going to get there
[00:26:46] and long story short Dubay off of Asalanka
[00:26:50] in 3 overs from the end hits a boundary to tie things up and you think
[00:26:54] it's a done deal and then the both the last guys get out when the scores are tied
[00:26:58] off of back-to-back balls I mean
[00:27:02] it's shocking having just tied it you shouldn't do that you shouldn't
[00:27:06] allow that to happen it should have should never have got there even when it got
[00:27:10] there when you're tied I mean from our sneeps lens when scores are tied
[00:27:14] just do the bare minimum but now again I come back to it don't blame
[00:27:18] the number 11 batter when the first 8 guys who are in the team
[00:27:22] to be specialist batters couldn't do it but it's still fairly shocking
[00:27:26] why was there no super over here is that just the ODI bilateral and the versus T20
[00:27:30] was fun to see a better super over back to man I have no idea man
[00:27:34] I actually have no idea but maybe it was that the game was already 50 overs long
[00:27:38] people were done by 100 overs they were like let's go home
[00:27:42] yeah so they didn't want 102 overs but
[00:27:46] see again what I want to get your take on is
[00:27:50] we promoted Washington it didn't really come off
[00:27:54] so what's changed in the World Cup obviously there's no hard-tick Pandya but we didn't have Pandya
[00:27:58] to the back end of the World Cup either we
[00:28:02] have let's say Shivam Dube replaced Pandya like for
[00:28:06] like quote unquote
[00:28:10] yeah it was a C team structure that's correct but you don't have even today
[00:28:14] Dube came in at 4 you don't have that stability at number 4
[00:28:18] now of course you had a floating batting order in the T20 World Cup and there were a lot of
[00:28:22] made a lot was made about that floating batting order when with Rohit said
[00:28:26] me and Virat will open the batting everybody else can bat anyway
[00:28:30] yeah but that's a completely different for yeah that's what I'm asking does that
[00:28:34] necessarily work for Di Cricket because I don't understand why you selected a year to
[00:28:38] bat at 4 if you don't trust him at 4 and Rohit 5 now it's a different
[00:28:42] discussion to say your batting first and your openers
[00:28:46] or your top 3 let's say get you to 225
[00:28:50] for 2 in 32 overs and then you're saying I have a shot
[00:28:54] 400 I'm going to bring in a promote Dube
[00:28:58] promote I guess if we're playing hard at the time etc
[00:29:02] and maybe leave Rahul and Aiyar to be a little later if they
[00:29:06] get early I understand that not when you're chasing 230 not one of the wickets are clearly
[00:29:10] difficult you pick Aiyar because you say he's the best player to spin in the
[00:29:14] side or maybe not pass 1 off you pick him basically for his ability to play spin
[00:29:18] and on a big spinning wicket you say I'm going to send Sundar at 4
[00:29:22] and Dube at 4 the next day I mean it just and then Akshar came in after
[00:29:26] Dube which I think Roy the synth said left your idea no give me a wrong Akshar played
[00:29:30] well today but man just there's no point don't
[00:29:34] don't pick him don't pick a bat at 4 in ODI I mean
[00:29:38] yeah you just think of a lot of the ODI greats and
[00:29:42] their batting positions being cemented right from the pottings to the such ins of the world
[00:29:46] the idea that you'd promote yes the game has changed now but the idea that
[00:29:50] you promote somebody else to it's like saying we send a jajadeja randomly over
[00:29:54] such an insert no yeah if you don't think of you just wouldn't
[00:29:58] have a very Robin singh walk and I had such a maybe he did at some point he did
[00:30:02] it he used to actually at some point when Sachin was dropped to 4
[00:30:06] because they wanted to protect him in one Sharjah tournament but
[00:30:10] no but that's what I wanted to speak to you about because I don't agree with that
[00:30:14] it seemed odd where you've got a guy who was successful relatively the workup I think
[00:30:18] scored probably 200 the workup yeah suddenly being dropped to 5
[00:30:22] now the question becomes from me right who's your best wicketkeeper batter for
[00:30:26] me the answer to that is Rishabh Panth even an old do you pick wicketkeeping as a higher
[00:30:30] ranked skill or batting as a high rank skill or equal I mean whoever gives you the better
[00:30:34] package right overall okay between so
[00:30:38] he gave it equal weightage who gives you the highest outcome there for me
[00:30:42] that's Rishabh you think there's a world where given that you but yeah but do you think there's
[00:30:46] a world which we've never thought about for a while but given that you're playing Dubey and
[00:30:50] Akshar and Sundar that we're saying we have too many lefties like is that the balance
[00:30:54] that potentially trying to strike yeah but the question is Dubey is not going to play
[00:30:58] if Hardwick is fit right yeah so then that
[00:31:02] you may be saying Dubey Rahul or Hardwick Rishabh maybe your two
[00:31:06] options in terms of protecting Hardwick Rishabh to me are the best
[00:31:10] all rounder spot I just don't know if we know
[00:31:14] if Hardwick can ball 10 and maybe he doesn't need to if you're I mean if you're
[00:31:18] getting over without a sky especially yeah but maybe he doesn't need to but even
[00:31:22] today Dubey only bought two overs right it was a spinning track whatever true true
[00:31:26] but Dubey looks I don't know do you see him in the field I don't
[00:31:30] know where they watched him in the field I didn't unfortunately know he doesn't
[00:31:34] seem limber and fit in some
[00:31:38] a guy that's young and petroling the boundary like
[00:31:42] young Hardwick or even a Vijay Shankar man he was a good fielder
[00:31:46] Dubey looks he's remodeled his action he's a bit quicker
[00:31:50] he bats well but like he doesn't seem like a long-term ODI
[00:31:54] prospect he can probably be just about manager T20 game
[00:31:58] it's also to be very clear he's older than Hardwick right like he hasn't been in the scene that long
[00:32:02] Dubey is 31 and Hardwick is 30 like so he is already
[00:32:06] yeah yeah so I actually didn't know
[00:32:10] he looks stiffer less flexible he looks I don't know
[00:32:14] whether he gets through it a ODI game
[00:32:18] with the energy that he should so for me the question becomes
[00:32:22] if you bring in Panth say to do the Wicked Keeper
[00:32:26] batter spot then is KL versus Shreyas for that number 4 spot
[00:32:30] or number 5 spot whatever that whatever you want to go with if you think you want a
[00:32:34] lefty at number 4 yeah and
[00:32:38] that should be the straight shootout between those two guys because they won't batters
[00:32:41] KL can keep which is incidental
[00:32:44] and then all of that actually also changes post-2025 if you
[00:32:48] assume champions trophy is the last hurrah for Rohit and Collin maybe it's not
[00:32:52] maybe they're trying to play through 27 but then it's played in England right
[00:32:56] that's the key that's why Dubey's being
[00:33:00] packed because Shardul is useless Hardwick is unreliable
[00:33:04] and you know some of the players aren't making the cut like a spinning
[00:33:08] they won't do it in the champion so this is all planning for the champion trophy
[00:33:12] yeah anyway not a lot to write about the right home about another second
[00:33:16] ODI actually very similar template Sri Lanka batted first a little more stability than relying
[00:33:20] on one lower order guy but 240 they made big difference
[00:33:24] being India played the same 11 and Sri Lanka made one key change
[00:33:28] in bringing in the likespinner who's played before against India Jeffrey Vendors
[00:33:32] Sir Joffrey I mean at
[00:33:36] there's a point when it looked like he would take all 10 honestly he was 6 he took all of
[00:33:40] the first six wickets ended up with figures of 6 for 33
[00:33:44] and then I said like it still looked like it was you know doable because of Rohit's good start
[00:33:48] and then I said like I picked up three more and it was a done deal but 208 all out
[00:33:52] I mean just very disappointing Dubey got out for a duck
[00:33:56] Shreyas made single this Rahul made single so all the names you've talked about
[00:34:00] yes one matches not does not a career defined but really disappointing so as they go to the third
[00:34:05] ODI DJ last question very quick as we have to wrap up going to the third ODI the names you have on the bench
[00:34:11] are double checking I said I think obviously Harshad ran out as a quick new of Rianne Parag and
[00:34:17] Rishabh Pant that can back I don't know if you need to change Harshad or Khalil we don't have another spinner
[00:34:23] on the bench which is disappointing but do you see a Rianne or Rishabh getting an opportunity in the
[00:34:30] actually maybe Rianne who gives you spinning options because they are playing at the same ground
[00:34:34] so I think they'll continue to play the same side because they're just going with that I would have
[00:34:39] liked to actually see Rishabh get a game I would like to see Rianne Parag get a game
[00:34:43] I think Parag would come in at the expense of Washington and Rishabh should come in at the
[00:34:48] expense of KL it seemed a bit harsh to drop KL for a couple of games or play KL and drop
[00:34:54] a year I don't know a part of this is also KL and Shreyas are a little bit rusty right
[00:34:58] they haven't played the work up they haven't played a lot of Flesh Cricket so maybe there's an element
[00:35:03] of that but under the Dravid era everybody got a game in every series so if you follow that
[00:35:10] template I think we will probably see some changes in the third game particularly since
[00:35:16] now Sri Lanka can't lose a series and India have lost ODI game not a series against Sri Lanka
[00:35:23] for the first time in three years India has not lost a series to Sri Lanka since 1997
[00:35:29] I mean the peak moment was the Virat Kohli dismissal right because they were pretty unhappy
[00:35:36] as well before he got dismissed there was a bit of let's say there was a bit of chatter around
[00:35:42] the bat but they thought he they'd got him earlier and interestingly Gambhir and Kohli are sitting
[00:35:50] next to each other in the dressing room as well which is the other interesting bit about all
[00:35:54] yeah let's wrap up with just overall how you feeling about Gambhir dynamic interesting to see
[00:35:59] Gambhir with Kohli, Gambhir and Rohit you know all of the buzz before the ODI series started was
[00:36:04] this is this the pair that's going to get us to a Champions trophy and now we're fighting or
[00:36:08] they're fighting for survival in a I mean yeah what is just what do you feel about it
[00:36:16] like is it too early to say is the real answer it's very early to say I do enjoy these low
[00:36:21] scoring games because it lets the wikatimin as well I mean let's be honest if this was played on
[00:36:27] a flat deck at I don't know Bangalore or Mohali or somewhere in there would have won this the
[00:36:34] fact that it's been paid on slightly ropey slightly spinning wickets we're not playing our kind of
[00:36:44] we're not playing spin well it is kind of like these are tough test match wickets that
[00:36:49] has been played on so it's kind of a quite old school cricket in a way it's 230s or 230 240s
[00:36:56] or winning score so you have to mentally recalibrate from having to score 360 every game to win the
[00:37:04] game so I think it's way too early I think the conditions in the Champions trophy would be
[00:37:09] very very different and Gambhir has come in with that one point agenda to win ICC trophy
[00:37:15] yeah yeah so I think that's the grand scheme of things that's why the Ube is getting this run even
[00:37:21] though I don't think he deserves to be in the ODI team all right that brings up to a story
[00:37:26] rap DJ we'll come back next week to talk about the third ODI how the series ended and hopefully
[00:37:30] some more insights like you alluded to briefly about the IPL auction criteria etc it's going to
[00:37:35] be interesting lots of debate happening or at least rumors of lots of debate happening between
[00:37:39] franchise owners etc I don't know if it's real or not but at least the schedule seem to say
[00:37:44] India doesn't play a match against September 18th so I don't know what we're going to do with
[00:37:47] ourselves because by the end of next week the Olympics will be done and India doesn't have
[00:37:51] cricket for six weeks so we'll figure it out there'll be something to watch I know I haven't
[00:37:55] paid any attention whatsoever to the hundred but maybe that'll be the only thing on so that's
[00:37:59] what I'm going to the test matches at the oval and Sri Lanka is going to come into England
[00:38:05] got it so that may be worth a test cricket worth watching and covering thank you all for
[00:38:09] joining us at the moment. At least Varun will know Varun will know more than two players in the Sri Lanka
[00:38:13] team Varun was actually at the ground he was I don't know if you heard last week we put a
[00:38:18] put a call out to see if he can get tickets I don't actually know if somebody reached out to him or
[00:38:22] if he just got behind it up being able to buy them but he was at the third at the second ODI
[00:38:27] which was very exciting right DJ that brings us to a wrap thank you everybody for listening
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