India v Sri Lanka: India seek ODI answers as series hangs in the balance

India v Sri Lanka: India seek ODI answers as series hangs in the balance

This week we discuss India’s tour of Sri Lanka as India tie both the third T20I and the first ODI while a loss in the second ODI sees them facing a first ODI series loss against Sri Lanka since 1997. Can Rohit Sharma’s men prevent the #IndvSL series loss?

This week we discuss India’s tour of Sri Lanka as India tie both the third T20I and the first ODI while a loss in the second ODI sees them facing a first ODI series loss against Sri Lanka since 1997. Can Rohit Sharma’s men prevent the #IndvSL series loss?

[00:00:01] Cricket Podcast. I'm your host Ashwin. I'm joined by DJ. DJ, it's a Sunday afternoon at

[00:00:18] the time of recording or evening for you now. Usually you're playing cricket. Are you not

[00:00:21] playing today? Is all the sporting fever mean that's all the world of sport activity

[00:00:25] that's going on means you guys got to break from cricket because I think you scored

[00:00:28] an insane century or something last week. We're going to talk Sunday league first before

[00:00:32] we get to what's really happening in the world of cricket. How are you doing?

[00:00:36] Yeah, I mean I'm okay man. We are in you get dropped after a century is that what

[00:00:40] happened? No, I mean that would be pretty harsh that would be kind of like a

[00:00:43] Ambatirayidu type of treatment. Karun Nayar triple century. He is the actual guy.

[00:00:50] That's it. I scored a hundred ones and got dropped. No we don't have a game this weekend.

[00:00:54] That's okay. I've got a game next weekend so I probably won't make the podcast next weekend.

[00:01:00] But yeah, I mean I got lucky to get some runs this season. I mean not out at the end

[00:01:07] made a phenomenal and anyway lots of the world of sport where I feel like India

[00:01:14] has since we last recorded played a T20 tied that T20. We'll spend a lot of time

[00:01:20] talking about that one because it's ridiculous obviously wanted a super

[00:01:22] over then played an ODI and said you know what we kind of like this

[00:01:26] type is to what do we do it again got another tie but no super over in the

[00:01:31] ODI which is interesting so the matches ended tight and then absolutely got

[00:01:34] pummeled but to be honest there's so much happening in the world of sport.

[00:01:38] India has just beaten Great Britain in a and I don't know why the Olympics is

[00:01:45] played as Great Britain instead of England or the UK you can probably

[00:01:48] explain that better than most why football is played as England but the

[00:01:52] Olympics is great scripted but anyway India won in hockey so it's now

[00:01:56] one win away from a medal which is going to be awesome. I think they won in

[00:01:59] Tokyo as well so that's going to be great. Joakovic is just won another big gold

[00:02:03] medal for the first time so I've been overwhelmed honestly with sport I've

[00:02:06] been watching swimming and fencing and of course archery and shooting and

[00:02:10] stuff where India has had some Olympic hopefuls and couple of bronze

[00:02:13] medals but have you been watching much of the industry like a cricket series

[00:02:17] it sort of feels I guess I should start by saying LA 2028 in four years

[00:02:22] cricket will be in the Olympics so we won't have this world where for the

[00:02:26] first time right or first time returning since 1900 or something when

[00:02:29] they played it. We won't have this world where there's amazing gold

[00:02:33] medal matches on TV and yet you got a pan over to Colombo to watch 50 over

[00:02:37] cricket so yeah how do you feel it's been going?

[00:02:42] So actually it's been fine because of course the T20 games didn't really

[00:02:47] clash with the Olympics proper. I've been watching a lot of the gymnastics

[00:02:53] the swimming so I started identifying some of the...

[00:02:58] The swimming has been amazing.

[00:03:00] Yeah it has been great including the Chinese swimmer that broke the world

[00:03:03] record and was immediately accused of cheating by his Western counterpart

[00:03:10] which is pretty ridiculous frankly. No the cricket 50 over game right so

[00:03:16] it's actually quite nice because you can switch over to other sports come back

[00:03:19] and not much has changed so this morning I watched the hockey which was an

[00:03:23] absolutely I mean hats off to Shri Jaish and team man I mean unbelievable

[00:03:30] composure unbelievable stamina they were down to nine men against 11

[00:03:35] at one point and we're not a hockey podcast but I think this was one

[00:03:39] of the most exciting matches I've ever watched they managed to take it to

[00:03:43] penalties and the penalties the way the Indian players executed those was just

[00:03:50] it was clinical and it was beautiful to watch and yeah I mean I live in England

[00:03:56] which is part of Great Britain not to be confused with the United Kingdom.

[00:04:03] But I'm not crazy right the FIFA World Cup you have England the cricket

[00:04:06] World Cup you have England because Scotland plays separately.

[00:04:09] England and Wales don't forget.

[00:04:11] And Wales plays football separately though.

[00:04:15] In the Olympics they all play together under the Great Britain flag.

[00:04:19] Correct.

[00:04:21] Which is a whole different thing because the Olympics you have like Puerto Rico

[00:04:24] which is part of the United States.

[00:04:26] Andy Murray has been playing for Great Britain by Scottish.

[00:04:28] Yeah anyway keep going yeah.

[00:04:30] So no watch the hockey team back into the cricket Sri Lanka did pretty well

[00:04:37] today but we should talk I mean we're going all over the place to be honest

[00:04:41] and we will try to structure to this.

[00:04:44] The 50 over games that we've watched they've been pretty close.

[00:04:49] I predicted the three zero whitewash in the T20 series.

[00:04:53] I'm pretty happy that one came.

[00:04:54] Does it count do you get that so let's if you're if you're placing

[00:04:58] a bet in countries where betting is legal a tie and super over win

[00:05:01] doesn't mean you don't mean you win the bet.

[00:05:03] You don't lose it you get your initial money back.

[00:05:05] Yeah but it's a push.

[00:05:07] What's the series score say.

[00:05:10] Yeah it will say three zero but super over feels like a kind of cheating

[00:05:13] way and you also did you also predict no Varun predicted three zero

[00:05:16] in the ODIs and he's already wrong.

[00:05:18] Yeah but there's no chance even I predicted two one which is

[00:05:21] technically gone now.

[00:05:22] No not going to happen.

[00:05:24] Best case scenario for India is one one but yeah.

[00:05:26] Now we should talk the T20 though because that what's been defining

[00:05:29] in this tour has been the bitches and I've kind of enjoyed these

[00:05:34] low scoring games.

[00:05:35] So let's talk the T20.

[00:05:36] Yeah let's talk about it.

[00:05:37] Varun and I chatted and I asked him and I think we both knew it was

[00:05:41] unlikely but I said listen if it was your team and you're here

[00:05:43] coming in etc after two zero what do you do.

[00:05:46] You persist a little start to have these guys start to cement

[00:05:50] their foundation as a team under sky younger younger team etc.

[00:05:56] Or do you say we won the series two zero.

[00:05:58] Let's make some changes and Varun said I would like to see them

[00:05:59] persist and of course they made four changes.

[00:06:02] Rishabh went out.

[00:06:03] Samson ended up keeping Akshar Hardik both all runners out in

[00:06:08] came Shivam Dubey and Washington Sundar and then Arsadeep went

[00:06:11] out and Khalil came in.

[00:06:13] So it was interesting obviously we said already ended in a tie

[00:06:16] India made 137 Sri Lanka absolutely should have chased it

[00:06:20] down absolutely should have chased it down.

[00:06:22] I think the equation at one point which feels very very

[00:06:26] very familiar was needed 30 off 30 not only 30 of 30

[00:06:32] which is very recent to drive away but actually it was nine

[00:06:35] wickets in hand.

[00:06:36] Yeah.

[00:06:36] And very interesting to see at you know when it was 24

[00:06:42] needed actually no sorry when it's 30 of 30 the choice of

[00:06:47] bowlers and how they finished but we'll come back to that.

[00:06:50] The first thing I want to ask you about the batting not a lot

[00:06:52] to write home about again tough picket tough tough pitches

[00:06:56] Shuman got some runs lower order made some runs such as

[00:07:00] Samson back to back back so I think he's now got two

[00:07:03] opportunities a series and made zero in five balls out twice.

[00:07:10] Why don't I talk to briefly last week I just what do you what

[00:07:13] do you do with this guy.

[00:07:14] He's so freaking good in the IPL and excellent skipper

[00:07:18] and yet repeatedly I'm being harsh because he has had

[00:07:21] good performances in Indian colors but yet repeatedly he

[00:07:23] wears the Indian jersey and seems like a completely

[00:07:26] different player.

[00:07:28] It is hard luck or is it just is it just the nature of not

[00:07:32] getting many opportunities so that when you do you're not

[00:07:34] fully ready and then you just I don't know what there's

[00:07:38] what do you what are your thoughts on that I guess is

[00:07:40] my question.

[00:07:42] Yeah the trouble with these trophies these bilateral

[00:07:45] trophies is you play two three games you get a couple

[00:07:48] of games and he's got another break and you forgot what

[00:07:51] he's done.

[00:07:53] So you're just a little bit by your numbers and P 20 is a

[00:07:56] game like that.

[00:07:57] You could get a couple of ducks in a row I think sky at one

[00:08:00] point it was one day as picked up three ducks in a row at

[00:08:04] one point.

[00:08:05] And you can get on a bad straight.

[00:08:07] I don't think he's I mean there's no class question

[00:08:10] about his class or his caliber his capability like

[00:08:12] Samson can take on the best bowlers in the world and

[00:08:15] deposit them all over the park.

[00:08:18] I think it's a question of him.

[00:08:22] The issue right for Sanju is that he feels the pressure

[00:08:25] of having to displace the incumbent wicketkeeper which

[00:08:30] will be Rishaband and you listed out the various

[00:08:33] replacements it's all like for like replacements.

[00:08:35] So Sanju Samson is auditioning directly for

[00:08:38] Rishaband spot and if you're not this fully

[00:08:40] fit he's a World Cup T 20 winner.

[00:08:43] And he's not really in the ODI.

[00:08:46] We should come to that as to why he's not.

[00:08:51] But I think Samson felt a little bit of pressure and

[00:08:55] maybe that's told against him.

[00:08:57] He's a good enough player to make this team just as

[00:08:59] a batter to be honest as a T 20 batter he doesn't

[00:09:04] need to be a keeper it's a bonus he can keep.

[00:09:06] But as long as Pankaj in form and in fit and in

[00:09:09] the in the in the side it's difficult for him

[00:09:12] to break through.

[00:09:13] So I think he feels a bit of that pressure

[00:09:15] because it feels like no matter what he does he

[00:09:19] will still be behind Rishaband that doesn't help

[00:09:22] him when he doesn't do anything at all.

[00:09:25] Yeah I mean as now you've observed in the ODI

[00:09:27] as they've prioritised K.L. Rahul obviously

[00:09:29] come here's first in this ODI coach Rohit

[00:09:33] and as captain they're trying to they're trying

[00:09:35] to look to the 25 Champions Trophy.

[00:09:36] That's just how these cycles work right.

[00:09:38] The minute the T 20 World Cup ended they're

[00:09:40] thinking what do we want to be doing in ODI

[00:09:42] so the 25 Champions Trophy now didn't start very well

[00:09:46] and will come to the ODIs but you don't really see

[00:09:48] something in that setup either.

[00:09:50] So if he's not able to cement a position either

[00:09:53] as a batter or as a wicked keeper batter short

[00:09:56] of being injured it looks tough for him

[00:09:58] and yes you can sit here and say 14 IPL games

[00:10:01] he does well two outings on India colors

[00:10:03] he doesn't but that's the nature of this game.

[00:10:05] I mean that's the nature of the sport right

[00:10:07] in the Olympics you train you train you train

[00:10:09] for four years and then sometimes in the

[00:10:10] gymnastics the events are like eight years

[00:10:12] and you fall you miss one one grip on a bar

[00:10:16] or something and that's the end of your season.

[00:10:17] So and the Samsung tragedy is that even if it's

[00:10:21] scored say I don't know 50 of 25 would that have

[00:10:25] guaranteed him a spot in the next starting 11.

[00:10:27] Yeah no it just creates more questions

[00:10:29] and more headaches and at this point

[00:10:30] he hasn't created a headache unfortunate yet.

[00:10:33] But like I said India went under my count

[00:10:36] in 37 I want to relive the last bit of it

[00:10:38] with you because the ODIs don't have

[00:10:40] that much exciting to talk about so we're

[00:10:41] going to go through the T20s together.

[00:10:42] DJ I said 30 of 30 Ravi Bishnoy

[00:10:46] I think has two overs left or has his last

[00:10:48] over left and Sky shirt throws up to him.

[00:10:50] Okay he manages to get Kosal Mendes out

[00:10:53] 43 who made 43 great runs both the Kosals

[00:10:56] vending at this point Mendes and Pereira

[00:10:58] and he gets Kosal Mendes out right

[00:11:01] and finishes his spell 23 of 24 needed

[00:11:03] Washington Sundar at this point

[00:11:05] has also one over left by the way

[00:11:08] if I'm looking down at the scorecard

[00:11:10] I think at this point you had our specialist bowler

[00:11:14] so Khalil had one and one left

[00:11:18] and two left excuse me

[00:11:21] Siraj had one left

[00:11:24] and Sundar and Vishnu I mentioned

[00:11:27] that one each left right so you had

[00:11:29] you had two quick specialist bowlers

[00:11:30] but obviously the pitch was spinning

[00:11:31] like you mentioned etc.

[00:11:33] Okay so Washington Sundar comes in

[00:11:36] great decision it looks like

[00:11:37] picks up two wickets Hassaranga gets out

[00:11:39] on a duck collapse seems like it's on

[00:11:42] finishes over 21 needed of 18

[00:11:44] you still have two Khalil overs left

[00:11:47] and you have Siraj over so logically

[00:11:49] you're going probably Khalil Siraj Khalil

[00:11:52] finish it off okay 21 of 18

[00:11:54] you know what happens everybody who's listening knows it now

[00:11:57] Khalil comes on I'm gonna just run through this quickly

[00:12:00] single wide and they ran

[00:12:03] single wide wide

[00:12:06] single double wide

[00:12:10] wide dot and single

[00:12:13] I mean what

[00:12:14] he did this recently against the Rajasthan Royals as well

[00:12:19] do you remember for Delhi

[00:12:20] it's just unbelievable

[00:12:22] he bowls so many whites at the death

[00:12:24] because I think he started to execute a plan

[00:12:25] but it was like it was ridiculous

[00:12:27] yeah but yeah he had one over left at the end

[00:12:30] yeah that's what yeah because the logical thing

[00:12:33] would have been for him if he'd bowl this one

[00:12:35] well to get in the last over

[00:12:37] yes so he doesn't bowl this one well

[00:12:39] and now you're thinking as sky is a new captain

[00:12:41] now you went from potentially defendable to 9 of 12

[00:12:45] you have a Siraj over

[00:12:47] you have a Khalil over obviously you can't bowl right away

[00:12:51] for everybody who happened to have missed it

[00:12:54] what did Sky do at this point

[00:12:56] who did he call

[00:12:58] I think he took his team shape

[00:13:00] and he's like this game is gone anyway

[00:13:02] I'm just going to point to the next team

[00:13:05] she can give them the ball

[00:13:07] and they can have a half and over

[00:13:09] and we'll all go home

[00:13:11] and lo and behold

[00:13:12] lo and behold

[00:13:14] do the batter who's been at the crease

[00:13:16] for more than half the innings of this point

[00:13:18] Kusal Parer has on strike

[00:13:20] the off spin of Rinku Singh

[00:13:22] comes on to get the ball

[00:13:24] in the penultimate over of the game

[00:13:25] this isn't even the way we're despite

[00:13:27] dot ball

[00:13:28] wicked Kusal Parer

[00:13:30] who's been betting for this and this is how it goes

[00:13:32] and they kind of you see the camera pan to come here

[00:13:35] come here's got this cheeky smile on his face

[00:13:38] Rinku Kekotan bold gets the wicked

[00:13:41] then single double dot gets another wicked

[00:13:45] so at this point

[00:13:47] Sri Lanka went from 9 of 12 to 6 of 6

[00:13:50] and Rinku Singh statistics read 1 over

[00:13:52] 2 for 3

[00:13:54] absolutely brilliant

[00:13:58] 20th over you're thinking now

[00:14:00] Siraj or Khalil both available

[00:14:03] but Rinku's kind of come out of nowhere

[00:14:06] and pulled off some magic as well

[00:14:09] big ones with spin

[00:14:11] you just get notified by the way

[00:14:13] slow your over rate was slow enough

[00:14:15] so you're only allowed 4 guys outside

[00:14:17] Siraj is warming up

[00:14:19] ready to go

[00:14:20] and what happens again

[00:14:22] is it another team sheet of point

[00:14:23] or what's going on at this point

[00:14:24] with 6 to defend

[00:14:26] I don't know like Sky

[00:14:28] is just like okay I've been slow

[00:14:31] with the field placing

[00:14:32] so I'll take the last over

[00:14:34] and I'll take all the blame for this loss

[00:14:36] is the only thing I can think of

[00:14:38] I think he's over 5 overs in his domestic career

[00:14:42] Siraj I don't know how much he's bold in his domestic career

[00:14:44] he has never ever taken a T20 wicket before

[00:14:47] or T20 i wicket at least

[00:14:49] he is bold

[00:14:52] in ODIs he is bold 12 balls

[00:14:55] in IPL cricket he is bold 12 balls

[00:14:58] 1 over 0 for 8 in IPL

[00:15:00] 1 over 0 for 17 in ODIs

[00:15:03] and I don't have these domestic stats just in front of us

[00:15:06] but after 2007

[00:15:09] and the Joginder Sharma pick

[00:15:11] for the last over against Pakistan

[00:15:13] in the final at Jobal

[00:15:15] this was almost certainly

[00:15:17] the most left field pick

[00:15:19] for a final over

[00:15:21] it was a bilateral where we had won the series

[00:15:23] I mean that Joginder was a little more at stake

[00:15:26] correct but all the T20s played between then and now

[00:15:30] can you think of one more left field pick that has come off?

[00:15:34] no absolutely not

[00:15:36] so Skykicks a ball himself

[00:15:38] bolts a dot ball

[00:15:40] gets a wicket

[00:15:41] Rinku Singh actually who bold the penalty over catches this one

[00:15:44] off of a reverse slug

[00:15:47] like absolutely horrendous shot

[00:15:49] goes to 6 from 4

[00:15:51] and he gets the next to get again

[00:15:53] down the down leg side

[00:15:55] brushes the glove good catch from Samsung

[00:15:58] and now Sky is on a hat trick

[00:16:00] doesn't get it

[00:16:02] gives up a single 2 and then 2 again on the last ball

[00:16:05] and Sky has now bought so Rinku Singh's

[00:16:07] figures read 1 over 2 for 3

[00:16:09] Sky is now read 1 over 2 for 5

[00:16:12] I mean from 30 of 30 with that

[00:16:15] it just sounds like

[00:16:17] you wouldn't write this story because people would say

[00:16:19] this is insane nobody would ever do this

[00:16:21] but Rinku and Sky bolted the last couple of overs

[00:16:24] obviously goes to a super over and they don't give it to either of those guys

[00:16:27] they give it to who was the best spinner on the day

[00:16:30] and that was Washington Sundar

[00:16:32] picked up 2 for 23 in his 4 overs

[00:16:35] ends up bowling a wide

[00:16:37] gives a single and then gets 2 wickets in 2 walls

[00:16:40] and remember in a super over you don't get to face all 6 balls

[00:16:43] if 2 wickets fall so they make they get all out for 2

[00:16:46] and then Sky the bowler who bolted the last over

[00:16:49] walks out with Gill

[00:16:51] hits a boundary for the first ball and finishes it off

[00:16:53] I mean

[00:16:55] so I guess DJ unbelievable

[00:16:57] fun to kind of relive but unbelievable to see how that all worked right

[00:17:00] India was 30 for 4

[00:17:02] 48 for 5

[00:17:04] makes 137 things so low or

[00:17:06] but Parag played well by the way

[00:17:08] both with the bat and the ball

[00:17:10] excellent not very un-prag and Varuna I talked quite a bit about him last week

[00:17:13] great series over all for him in a tough in tough conditions

[00:17:16] I mean

[00:17:18] a good win I mean

[00:17:21] I don't know what to say about it to be honest

[00:17:23] I guess my question for you is come here

[00:17:25] we talked a lot about come here

[00:17:27] and what we think he bring in

[00:17:29] his tone his tonality gets older players etc. before

[00:17:33] is this a come here thing is this a sky thing is it both

[00:17:36] is it

[00:17:37] was it with it really truly just having some fun

[00:17:39] and it worked and how they're going to say or is it truly the effect that Varun has talked about

[00:17:42] on the show for many many many years which is

[00:17:44] you need seven or eight guys who can play all around so even if we will bowl

[00:17:48] very very rarely having him as an option

[00:17:51] having sky's a bowling option changes your potential 11

[00:17:55] significantly thought

[00:17:58] I mean it's a totally different way of playing T20 cricket

[00:18:01] from the way we've been playing it in the past I think Rihanna Parag

[00:18:05] has had a great series

[00:18:07] I think a lot of this

[00:18:10] and I'm sure you know the stats better than I do

[00:18:12] and you must have talked them in the first two T20s as well

[00:18:15] Sri Lanka has collapsed in every single T20

[00:18:18] the middle order hasn't fired

[00:18:21] they've melted under the pressure and over here as well

[00:18:24] they lost nine for

[00:18:27] 31

[00:18:28] yeah 30 I think

[00:18:30] 30 yeah 29 I guess right they needed 30 to win so

[00:18:33] yeah so absolutely absurd

[00:18:36] like chasing

[00:18:38] behavior and it's not even like remember there's no just

[00:18:41] or mama Chami playing in this game so I mean

[00:18:45] it would have been a totally different kettle of fish I think that had happened

[00:18:48] but no I think Sri Lanka contributed to their demise

[00:18:52] to a large extent in this game

[00:18:55] equally they probably too shocked

[00:18:58] when they went got the Super over they hit two balls

[00:19:01] go to the fielders

[00:19:03] and that was the end like and then sky hits one shot as you said

[00:19:07] and they miss field it should have been a dog for

[00:19:10] four and that's the end of the game

[00:19:13] just sloppy shabby

[00:19:15] can't feel for Sanat Jasuri sitting in that dugout watching this go

[00:19:18] he's like yeah it's very very dark yeah

[00:19:21] but yeah I think

[00:19:24] that game was gone with nine of twelve

[00:19:27] and Sri Lanka probably relaxed a little bit at that point

[00:19:31] and I mean it felt like one of those each side was giving

[00:19:34] they're giving it back right when Khalil came into ball

[00:19:37] didn't look so bad 21 to defend in 18

[00:19:40] in tough for kid and then he gave it a 12 half of much for whites

[00:19:43] I mean we were just throwing it at each other and then

[00:19:46] sky I just I can't believe Sky and Rinku pulled the last two

[00:19:49] or the whole that's the genius isn't it

[00:19:52] I agree I agree fully I don't know you feel

[00:19:55] like he's kind of captain that will try a random

[00:19:58] stuff and that was obviously the Dhoni touch

[00:20:01] that he would just do random things at the right time

[00:20:04] I'm not comparing the two because obviously one is very early on

[00:20:07] and how many seconds it's been since we spoke about Dhoni

[00:20:10] about 19 minutes so it's pretty good 21

[00:20:13] that's not too bad he's almost about to start

[00:20:16] unless CSK changed the rules just to retain him as an uncap player

[00:20:20] that is also potentially going to happen but maybe next week

[00:20:23] we'll talk about everything that's going to happen

[00:20:26] 30 win great start for the Gambhir Sky combo right

[00:20:29] agreed 30 win good for Sky I mean

[00:20:32] scrappy in some parts but honestly we have been yearning

[00:20:35] in T20 I mean if you could have told me at the start of the summer

[00:20:38] we would have won the T20 World Cup and been able to

[00:20:41] gift that if you will to Rohit and Kohli and then

[00:20:44] both Angel Asia and then all say alright thanks we're done now

[00:20:47] now we're letting the young blood come in young blood comes

[00:20:50] and Sky picks up captain C pick up a scrappy

[00:20:53] but efficient 30 win on the back in tough conditions on the back

[00:20:56] of trying new things that's best case scenario

[00:20:59] for me from a T20 side step we got to do both those things

[00:21:02] which was awesome yeah nice for Washi to come in

[00:21:05] and pick up with man of the match right agreed well

[00:21:09] well deserved alright DJ we talked more about the T20

[00:21:12] then we thought we're going to take a very quick break we'll be right back after this

[00:21:14] to talk about the ODIs which are a little less exciting

[00:21:17] so I saved last time for him don't go anywhere we'll be right back

[00:21:20] welcome back to the edges and sliders cricket podcast

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[00:21:50] DJ come into the ODIs very quickly then Rohit Shalma comes back in

[00:21:54] Virat Kohli comes back in not a lot of surprises in terms of

[00:21:58] the 11 except maybe once I'll run down the 11 that played in the first ODI

[00:22:02] and then I'll get your point of view so Rohit Shalma opening

[00:22:05] Virat 3 Shreyas 4 KL Rahul 5 Shivam Dubai 6

[00:22:10] and Washington Sundar got his look at 7

[00:22:12] and you had Akshar at 8 Kuldeep 9 then Arshdeep and Siraj to run out

[00:22:16] the two quickers quick spot so Rishabh misses out

[00:22:19] Khalil misses out and Rian Parag and Arshith Rana who were in the squad

[00:22:23] didn't get a look in for the first game we're happy with that

[00:22:27] 11 is you're thinking that Rahul at 5 is the move and maybe Rishabh's

[00:22:31] playing the two more extreme formats of our sport in the T20s and tests

[00:22:35] but they're saying Rahul is that good in ODIs and they want to keep him

[00:22:39] thoughts? I think Rahul is good in ODIs

[00:22:43] and you would like to keep him but why if you have Rishabh Panth

[00:22:47] on the bench would you... And I didn't hear

[00:22:50] maybe he was injured fatigued etc after

[00:22:53] we take for granted that he's back from what could have been a career injury

[00:22:58] not so much longer so it's possible after the T20s they wanted to give him a little bit more time

[00:23:02] but I'm not sure if that was it. I don't know I think

[00:23:06] I don't think I think he was dropped for KL being

[00:23:10] the first choice keeper. KL kept well during the World Cup

[00:23:14] don't get me wrong I mean KL I think Captain India in the South Africa series as well

[00:23:18] and Mosquitos captain did well. But if you have Rishabh

[00:23:22] back fully fit in firing to have that kind of

[00:23:26] firepower sitting on the bench to me sounds... Punk is a game changer man

[00:23:30] yes we call the Rishabh Punk show but and we've always been massive fans

[00:23:34] and the reason for that is he can change a game in

[00:23:38] a few overs and that

[00:23:42] is worth its weight in gold on kind of low scoring

[00:23:46] he saw that against Pakistan in the T20 World Cup where we struggled to

[00:23:50] 119 where he got 42 of 31 with a thousand chances but

[00:23:54] he took those chances his chances down and he's got the skill to pull it off

[00:23:58] more often than not. He's like that guy you know Panth and we have that guy in

[00:24:02] Gali cricket who's like okay so you moved a field of him here to there I'm going to hit it

[00:24:06] there where you move the field of from and Panth is good enough to do

[00:24:10] that in international cricket. That's the amazing

[00:24:14] part of him so I'm very interested to see whether he comes in for the third ODI because

[00:24:18] India are now staring at a series defeat. We'll get to that but

[00:24:22] I was disappointed not to see Panth there. Who

[00:24:26] spot does he take is the question right like with Pandya not playing

[00:24:30] ODI's, Dubé is playing

[00:24:34] we should talk about Dubé's spot as well. Shreyas Ayer is the other potential player

[00:24:38] that could miss out. I would pick to be honest

[00:24:42] between Ayer and Panth I would pick Panth and then it's actually

[00:24:46] a toss up between KL and Shreyas not

[00:24:50] Panth and KL. Interesting yeah

[00:24:54] yeah I mean not quite enough I think in these first

[00:24:58] two ODI's especially given the conditions to make selections off of

[00:25:02] ongoing but I think your point is valid and interesting

[00:25:06] so very quick 230 from Sri Lanka, good half centuries

[00:25:10] from Nesanka and then lower order from Dunit Vela who just had an

[00:25:14] absolutely outstanding knock. He was given out first ball I think to Washington

[00:25:18] he was given out and he reviewed and he was saved by

[00:25:22] the review. I mean you need to walk in at 101 for 5 and see more

[00:25:26] wickets fall on the other end at 140, 170 H, make 67

[00:25:30] at over 100 over a run of ball when nobody else struck anywhere close. He was outstanding

[00:25:34] honestly he was reverse sweeping, washy, he was cover driving, the spin

[00:25:38] the ball was spinning big let's not get that wrong and we should remember

[00:25:42] Sri Lanka won the toss in both ODI's back at first

[00:25:46] so they chose to back, they had a big advantage there let's not forget that.

[00:25:50] Yeah absolutely and India should have restricted them to sub 200 and if not for his

[00:25:54] innings they would have and then sort of an interesting similar template in both

[00:25:58] ODI's right so same 11 India played but

[00:26:02] Rohit got off to a flyer in both cases mid half centuries in both matches

[00:26:06] and he sort of said this in the press conference where he plays high risk, high

[00:26:10] over cricket that's the role he wants to play even in the ODI format get that he gets

[00:26:14] run but there's some risk with it. And India looked to be cruising to be honest

[00:26:18] and you know after about 12-13 overs Gil got out then Rohit

[00:26:22] got out pretty quickly after then Sundar came in at 4 which was an interesting choice

[00:26:26] and got out, Virat got out by the 23rd over and then we can just

[00:26:30] fall consistently still when Rahul and Aksha were banning you thought it was a done deal

[00:26:34] oh gosh they've both gotten out again relatively quickly I think 39.4

[00:26:38] and 40.5 so within 7 balls of each other and then you still felt like

[00:26:42] when Dubay was batting first with Kuldeep then with Serhad said it was going to get there

[00:26:46] and long story short Dubay off of Asalanka

[00:26:50] in 3 overs from the end hits a boundary to tie things up and you think

[00:26:54] it's a done deal and then the both the last guys get out when the scores are tied

[00:26:58] off of back-to-back balls I mean

[00:27:02] it's shocking having just tied it you shouldn't do that you shouldn't

[00:27:06] allow that to happen it should have should never have got there even when it got

[00:27:10] there when you're tied I mean from our sneeps lens when scores are tied

[00:27:14] just do the bare minimum but now again I come back to it don't blame

[00:27:18] the number 11 batter when the first 8 guys who are in the team

[00:27:22] to be specialist batters couldn't do it but it's still fairly shocking

[00:27:26] why was there no super over here is that just the ODI bilateral and the versus T20

[00:27:30] was fun to see a better super over back to man I have no idea man

[00:27:34] I actually have no idea but maybe it was that the game was already 50 overs long

[00:27:38] people were done by 100 overs they were like let's go home

[00:27:42] yeah so they didn't want 102 overs but

[00:27:46] see again what I want to get your take on is

[00:27:50] we promoted Washington it didn't really come off

[00:27:54] so what's changed in the World Cup obviously there's no hard-tick Pandya but we didn't have Pandya

[00:27:58] to the back end of the World Cup either we

[00:28:02] have let's say Shivam Dube replaced Pandya like for

[00:28:06] like quote unquote

[00:28:10] yeah it was a C team structure that's correct but you don't have even today

[00:28:14] Dube came in at 4 you don't have that stability at number 4

[00:28:18] now of course you had a floating batting order in the T20 World Cup and there were a lot of

[00:28:22] made a lot was made about that floating batting order when with Rohit said

[00:28:26] me and Virat will open the batting everybody else can bat anyway

[00:28:30] yeah but that's a completely different for yeah that's what I'm asking does that

[00:28:34] necessarily work for Di Cricket because I don't understand why you selected a year to

[00:28:38] bat at 4 if you don't trust him at 4 and Rohit 5 now it's a different

[00:28:42] discussion to say your batting first and your openers

[00:28:46] or your top 3 let's say get you to 225

[00:28:50] for 2 in 32 overs and then you're saying I have a shot

[00:28:54] 400 I'm going to bring in a promote Dube

[00:28:58] promote I guess if we're playing hard at the time etc

[00:29:02] and maybe leave Rahul and Aiyar to be a little later if they

[00:29:06] get early I understand that not when you're chasing 230 not one of the wickets are clearly

[00:29:10] difficult you pick Aiyar because you say he's the best player to spin in the

[00:29:14] side or maybe not pass 1 off you pick him basically for his ability to play spin

[00:29:18] and on a big spinning wicket you say I'm going to send Sundar at 4

[00:29:22] and Dube at 4 the next day I mean it just and then Akshar came in after

[00:29:26] Dube which I think Roy the synth said left your idea no give me a wrong Akshar played

[00:29:30] well today but man just there's no point don't

[00:29:34] don't pick him don't pick a bat at 4 in ODI I mean

[00:29:38] yeah you just think of a lot of the ODI greats and

[00:29:42] their batting positions being cemented right from the pottings to the such ins of the world

[00:29:46] the idea that you'd promote yes the game has changed now but the idea that

[00:29:50] you promote somebody else to it's like saying we send a jajadeja randomly over

[00:29:54] such an insert no yeah if you don't think of you just wouldn't

[00:29:58] have a very Robin singh walk and I had such a maybe he did at some point he did

[00:30:02] it he used to actually at some point when Sachin was dropped to 4

[00:30:06] because they wanted to protect him in one Sharjah tournament but

[00:30:10] no but that's what I wanted to speak to you about because I don't agree with that

[00:30:14] it seemed odd where you've got a guy who was successful relatively the workup I think

[00:30:18] scored probably 200 the workup yeah suddenly being dropped to 5

[00:30:22] now the question becomes from me right who's your best wicketkeeper batter for

[00:30:26] me the answer to that is Rishabh Panth even an old do you pick wicketkeeping as a higher

[00:30:30] ranked skill or batting as a high rank skill or equal I mean whoever gives you the better

[00:30:34] package right overall okay between so

[00:30:38] he gave it equal weightage who gives you the highest outcome there for me

[00:30:42] that's Rishabh you think there's a world where given that you but yeah but do you think there's

[00:30:46] a world which we've never thought about for a while but given that you're playing Dubey and

[00:30:50] Akshar and Sundar that we're saying we have too many lefties like is that the balance

[00:30:54] that potentially trying to strike yeah but the question is Dubey is not going to play

[00:30:58] if Hardwick is fit right yeah so then that

[00:31:02] you may be saying Dubey Rahul or Hardwick Rishabh maybe your two

[00:31:06] options in terms of protecting Hardwick Rishabh to me are the best

[00:31:10] all rounder spot I just don't know if we know

[00:31:14] if Hardwick can ball 10 and maybe he doesn't need to if you're I mean if you're

[00:31:18] getting over without a sky especially yeah but maybe he doesn't need to but even

[00:31:22] today Dubey only bought two overs right it was a spinning track whatever true true

[00:31:26] but Dubey looks I don't know do you see him in the field I don't

[00:31:30] know where they watched him in the field I didn't unfortunately know he doesn't

[00:31:34] seem limber and fit in some

[00:31:38] a guy that's young and petroling the boundary like

[00:31:42] young Hardwick or even a Vijay Shankar man he was a good fielder

[00:31:46] Dubey looks he's remodeled his action he's a bit quicker

[00:31:50] he bats well but like he doesn't seem like a long-term ODI

[00:31:54] prospect he can probably be just about manager T20 game

[00:31:58] it's also to be very clear he's older than Hardwick right like he hasn't been in the scene that long

[00:32:02] Dubey is 31 and Hardwick is 30 like so he is already

[00:32:06] yeah yeah so I actually didn't know

[00:32:10] he looks stiffer less flexible he looks I don't know

[00:32:14] whether he gets through it a ODI game

[00:32:18] with the energy that he should so for me the question becomes

[00:32:22] if you bring in Panth say to do the Wicked Keeper

[00:32:26] batter spot then is KL versus Shreyas for that number 4 spot

[00:32:30] or number 5 spot whatever that whatever you want to go with if you think you want a

[00:32:34] lefty at number 4 yeah and

[00:32:38] that should be the straight shootout between those two guys because they won't batters

[00:32:41] KL can keep which is incidental

[00:32:44] and then all of that actually also changes post-2025 if you

[00:32:48] assume champions trophy is the last hurrah for Rohit and Collin maybe it's not

[00:32:52] maybe they're trying to play through 27 but then it's played in England right

[00:32:56] that's the key that's why Dubey's being

[00:33:00] packed because Shardul is useless Hardwick is unreliable

[00:33:04] and you know some of the players aren't making the cut like a spinning

[00:33:08] they won't do it in the champion so this is all planning for the champion trophy

[00:33:12] yeah anyway not a lot to write about the right home about another second

[00:33:16] ODI actually very similar template Sri Lanka batted first a little more stability than relying

[00:33:20] on one lower order guy but 240 they made big difference

[00:33:24] being India played the same 11 and Sri Lanka made one key change

[00:33:28] in bringing in the likespinner who's played before against India Jeffrey Vendors

[00:33:32] Sir Joffrey I mean at

[00:33:36] there's a point when it looked like he would take all 10 honestly he was 6 he took all of

[00:33:40] the first six wickets ended up with figures of 6 for 33

[00:33:44] and then I said like it still looked like it was you know doable because of Rohit's good start

[00:33:48] and then I said like I picked up three more and it was a done deal but 208 all out

[00:33:52] I mean just very disappointing Dubey got out for a duck

[00:33:56] Shreyas made single this Rahul made single so all the names you've talked about

[00:34:00] yes one matches not does not a career defined but really disappointing so as they go to the third

[00:34:05] ODI DJ last question very quick as we have to wrap up going to the third ODI the names you have on the bench

[00:34:11] are double checking I said I think obviously Harshad ran out as a quick new of Rianne Parag and

[00:34:17] Rishabh Pant that can back I don't know if you need to change Harshad or Khalil we don't have another spinner

[00:34:23] on the bench which is disappointing but do you see a Rianne or Rishabh getting an opportunity in the

[00:34:30] actually maybe Rianne who gives you spinning options because they are playing at the same ground

[00:34:34] so I think they'll continue to play the same side because they're just going with that I would have

[00:34:39] liked to actually see Rishabh get a game I would like to see Rianne Parag get a game

[00:34:43] I think Parag would come in at the expense of Washington and Rishabh should come in at the

[00:34:48] expense of KL it seemed a bit harsh to drop KL for a couple of games or play KL and drop

[00:34:54] a year I don't know a part of this is also KL and Shreyas are a little bit rusty right

[00:34:58] they haven't played the work up they haven't played a lot of Flesh Cricket so maybe there's an element

[00:35:03] of that but under the Dravid era everybody got a game in every series so if you follow that

[00:35:10] template I think we will probably see some changes in the third game particularly since

[00:35:16] now Sri Lanka can't lose a series and India have lost ODI game not a series against Sri Lanka

[00:35:23] for the first time in three years India has not lost a series to Sri Lanka since 1997

[00:35:29] I mean the peak moment was the Virat Kohli dismissal right because they were pretty unhappy

[00:35:36] as well before he got dismissed there was a bit of let's say there was a bit of chatter around

[00:35:42] the bat but they thought he they'd got him earlier and interestingly Gambhir and Kohli are sitting

[00:35:50] next to each other in the dressing room as well which is the other interesting bit about all

[00:35:54] yeah let's wrap up with just overall how you feeling about Gambhir dynamic interesting to see

[00:35:59] Gambhir with Kohli, Gambhir and Rohit you know all of the buzz before the ODI series started was

[00:36:04] this is this the pair that's going to get us to a Champions trophy and now we're fighting or

[00:36:08] they're fighting for survival in a I mean yeah what is just what do you feel about it

[00:36:16] like is it too early to say is the real answer it's very early to say I do enjoy these low

[00:36:21] scoring games because it lets the wikatimin as well I mean let's be honest if this was played on

[00:36:27] a flat deck at I don't know Bangalore or Mohali or somewhere in there would have won this the

[00:36:34] fact that it's been paid on slightly ropey slightly spinning wickets we're not playing our kind of

[00:36:44] we're not playing spin well it is kind of like these are tough test match wickets that

[00:36:49] has been played on so it's kind of a quite old school cricket in a way it's 230s or 230 240s

[00:36:56] or winning score so you have to mentally recalibrate from having to score 360 every game to win the

[00:37:04] game so I think it's way too early I think the conditions in the Champions trophy would be

[00:37:09] very very different and Gambhir has come in with that one point agenda to win ICC trophy

[00:37:15] yeah yeah so I think that's the grand scheme of things that's why the Ube is getting this run even

[00:37:21] though I don't think he deserves to be in the ODI team all right that brings up to a story

[00:37:26] rap DJ we'll come back next week to talk about the third ODI how the series ended and hopefully

[00:37:30] some more insights like you alluded to briefly about the IPL auction criteria etc it's going to

[00:37:35] be interesting lots of debate happening or at least rumors of lots of debate happening between

[00:37:39] franchise owners etc I don't know if it's real or not but at least the schedule seem to say

[00:37:44] India doesn't play a match against September 18th so I don't know what we're going to do with

[00:37:47] ourselves because by the end of next week the Olympics will be done and India doesn't have

[00:37:51] cricket for six weeks so we'll figure it out there'll be something to watch I know I haven't

[00:37:55] paid any attention whatsoever to the hundred but maybe that'll be the only thing on so that's

[00:37:59] what I'm going to the test matches at the oval and Sri Lanka is going to come into England

[00:38:05] got it so that may be worth a test cricket worth watching and covering thank you all for

[00:38:09] joining us at the moment. At least Varun will know Varun will know more than two players in the Sri Lanka

[00:38:13] team Varun was actually at the ground he was I don't know if you heard last week we put a

[00:38:18] put a call out to see if he can get tickets I don't actually know if somebody reached out to him or

[00:38:22] if he just got behind it up being able to buy them but he was at the third at the second ODI

[00:38:27] which was very exciting right DJ that brings us to a wrap thank you everybody for listening

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