India took a 2-1 test series lead as the perfect team performance completed India’s largest-ever test win in terms of runs at Rajkot (434 runs was the margin).
We talk
- Rohit and Jadeja’s hundreds from 33-3 in the first hour
- Sarfaraz’s debut and dimissal
- Ben Duckett’s 153 - Ashwin’s 500th wicket and prediction for day 3
- Joe Root’s reverse against Bumrah was called by some as the “worst shot in test cricket history”
- Magnificent Siraj and Kuldeep to give India a 126-run lead in Ashwin’s absence
- Ben Duckett’s presser on day 3
- we’ll chase anything
- Jaiswal’s second consecutive double hundred, Gill and Sarfaraz in the runs
- Jadeja’s five-for-fourth #IndvsEng test questions for both sides? - RIP #Bazball?
[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Edges and Sledge's Cricket podcast.
[00:00:14] We have a full house.
[00:00:15] I'm your host Ashwin.
[00:00:16] I'm joined by Varun and DJ and we are going live on YouTube.
[00:00:20] So this is going to be a lot happening, a lot to absorb because India has just completed for two and Ben Duckett played that absolutely magnificent innings. Did anybody see this happening? Largeest margin of victory in terms of runs. India missing one of their starting 11. The starting at 11, by the way, is missing basically six, maybe seven of their first choice cricketers. I mean, did everybody see this coming?
[00:01:42] Well, it's a good question because Ravi Chandran show with this question. I'm going to start with you. And I'm not asking DJ because otherwise he'll probably talk for 45 minutes. What is the assessment if you are England and England fan today, sitting here and talking about basketball? You can you
[00:03:02] can queue it up a million different ways. Yes, when you're in Stokes actually
[00:03:05] tried to show a lot of positive heart in that press conference saying we can same way and yeah it just doesn't make sense to try and do this every board. So yes I would say I think they should not stop with the spirit of it but I think you need to start picking more carefully when you're doing this because like DJ said do you know they're going to keep going for it? Like Joe Root keeps playing that reverse been dominating the conversation, but you were right. And I spoke to the cricket podcast guys earlier today. So you don't need the 45 minute run from me. I've already had that with them. It's already somewhere on YouTube. Yeah, it is on YouTube. So you should check that out. But it is true that their bowling has actually been letting them down.
[00:05:41] I mean, Jimmy Anderson being hit
[00:05:42] for three consecutive sixes today.
[00:05:44] You have to feel for rundown of the game, I promise. 434 run victory. The reason it hasn't happened really for India before is because to get 434 victory, you
[00:07:02] have to have a lead of 557, which is what India did. It has nothing to do with basketball. We've done this for years and decades in India. You just backed them out of the game. Yeah, you take one result out of the game. Yeah, I mean, it is interesting, right? You can look at it both as you can look at it and say India same runs as they got without that Jirrel, and Rohit partnership. So, I was just talking to somebody saying, this is what the experience counts. So, that's why you always need to have a team that has youngsters and people with experience, and that is the core job of the Selectors Committee, and anyone
[00:09:42] managing kind of player tenure, you just have to finish the game which was just poetic, right?
[00:11:01] Yeah, amazing performance.
[00:11:02] And he picked up the man of the match as well.
[00:11:04] You have to feel a little bit for Jazphal
[00:11:05] which will come to, he's got two double hundreds he has been on the circuit. It's just been a matter of time. And just looked in back. And I was dropped and I was dropped. Or has a groin and back injury but
[00:13:42] basically he came in because the BCS just said we don't want to put a Jaira yet. That's it. This is the picture perfect moment. And then Jiraja, who's on 99, pushes the ball, takes three steps forward, calls Safra as down, and then sends him back. And Mark Wood, who's not only picked up three-week it so far, now executes a runout, and the collective
[00:15:00] kind of stadium and the country just sighed.
[00:15:03] And I was say about that. I mean it was heartbreaking man. But Jadithya by the way has had a publicly, a play out family feud that's been playing out publicly
[00:16:22] recently. Yeah something about his father but that's what I'm saying. We do.
[00:16:26] Despite that, Jadithya is the ability, but lasted almost 90 balls. And even Bumra, who came out back at a run of all 26 runs in that stage of the game, they matter. 445 has a much bigger psychological absence, 350.
[00:17:42] Oh, yeah. And it was a... The strength of this Indian team at home has been...
[00:18:45] did nothing wrong with the gloves, but obviously I think Jurel is going to be playing the rest of the series based on that display with the bat and behind the stumps.
[00:18:51] Sorry, I had a hard time coming up. Super interesting. I agree. I think we, again, in the storyline
[00:18:57] of this test at Radhkod, that will not said like to me it was that root dismissal right again where he tried to reverse
[00:20:20] We boomerah and headed straight to jesswa which is a great catch and
[00:21:30] just arguably the greatest test batsman England has ever produced or at least stop true. What does he do?
[00:21:31] Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of context that's short, right? I think they have come out defending
[00:21:36] it saying I've got out blocking the ball more often than playing the reverse sweep, I guess.
[00:21:40] Duckett says it's like being caught in the slipswell driving. I think the problem that
[00:21:45] a lot of people will have with the shot back normally. And by the end of the day, if you've batted that day and done your job, England should have been 100, 200 runs ahead. I mean, maybe not 200, but maybe 150 runs ahead, right? You would have expected them to be closer to 55600 by that.
[00:23:01] But to play that shot then,
[00:23:03] again, it's not the execution of the shot.
[00:23:05] He's got out to it before against Neil Wagner. Again, as I looked at how that England, that Englandings wrapped up, it's a right-picked magnificent forefoot, and getting Ali Pope and then cleaning up the tail, you have to give him credit. But also, again, I keep using this expression in a series, in a game with a lot of incredible storylines. I feel like cool deep spell will be a little bit lost. And that, to me, arguably changed the game, right?
[00:24:21] Getting ducked.
[00:24:23] And then very quickly getting better store forth.
[00:24:26] I mean, people at criticism, better store, something really good. Yeah, couldn't agree more. And it kind of kick started that turnaround, right? That defined this match. We're going to take a very quick break. We'll be right back to talk about the second innings from both teams and how it all wrapped up.
[00:25:44] Welcome back to the edges and sledges cricket podcast. If you're watching us on YouTube, we're lost the first test match after taking 190 run lead. The biggest lead in the history of Indian cricket and they lost the test match. They had a smaller lead in the second test, 140, and that an even smaller lead in this test, which is 126. But you can see that Rohit Sharma has tried to drill into these batters and Rahul Dravad has tried to drill into these batters.
[00:27:05] Once you're in, you have to make it count. He's got all the shots. He's not really been tested in foreign conditions. He was really not on the radar before like the last 12 months as a test player. Because of course we've seen him light up the IPL. He was the under-19 captain of India that lost that final. But this showed a test mindset.
[00:28:20] It's a red ball mindset.
[00:28:21] Give the first out to the bowler, which is what they did.
[00:28:24] Both him and Gil gave that team over the point of England potentially chasing it, right? We thought we were done talking about heartbreaking runouts. Shippman kills on 91. Kultipiada was facing. Basically, basically the same thing, right? Kultip calls him, sends him back. It looked like they were taking the run, sends him back,
[00:29:42] and just everybody looks crestfallen, it looks upset.
[00:30:45] that he's got, all you have to do is just face balls. That's all you've got to do. There's nothing else that is in kind of your, you know, go to like position. So I am happy that that obviously
[00:30:53] the 91 is a special number. I saw some memes saying how he just loves the India country code
[00:30:59] and stuff and all of that. But 91 is the Tony number, which one. So hopefully you, okay, we'll come back and talk about that. Let's wrap up that second innings because again, being 258 for four when cool deep gets out, you could potentially get three, three, 20, 30, whatever it is. But Salfras again came out. Again, made yet another
[00:32:21] 50 plus score. A company, Jess Wall, who again, like these two kids, the way that they've dominated the spinners, I don't think we've seen that for years. Coley's not so dominant against spinners be able to dismiss England, which in hindsight it proved to be enough. So I went to bed kind of during the onslaught that I saw, I saw Jess Wall hit the three sixes, I saw for a start to pick up. And then I, for those of our listeners who are also in the US, if timing has been tough.
[00:35:02] So I went to bed and like I said, I said't seen the specific comments. So there's not a defense. We've talked about this a fair amount, right? Like, Ampere's called his heart us. Verat has been victim to what looked like. It was going to be out. And Ampere's called and it's done. So I get it. I just think, and this is the broader discussion about the hubris and basketball.
[00:36:20] Will basketball survive all this?
[00:36:21] But I just think when you lose by 400,
[00:36:22] when you lose by 80 runs, you could say,
[00:36:24] man, a couple of shady DRS decisions went together. second one if that had been on the stumps that is out we have that would have that would have ignited the series it would the moral the laws and i've been waiting for that to happen right it's been three tests and none of this is happening the best happening why does he drop the bat every time he gets out now he's dumping away with boomeras boldly there's something something odd happening
[00:37:42] i'm just going to say something snarky but i'll avoid it because i think we have some British flew back. Unfortunately, he only did 40 overs, less than 40 overs, of which he only fielded six. He only bought six. Picked up an important wicked, to be clear, great delivery to get heartily under edge, unfortunately. But, yeah, I mean, 500 wickets. We actually didn't spend nearly enough time talking about it, right? 98 tests. Everybody on the list who's got more
[00:39:01] wickets, the name has played far, far more tests. Trem pleased about it. Baran, a great picture to wrap up. I have more questions about how England is gonna approach basketball from this point forward. And you know, cause you can look at your route by the way and say after that summer's school, he did choose, probably choose to read social media,
[00:40:20] read some of the articles,
[00:40:21] got in his head,
[00:40:22] played a completely different brand of cricket.
[00:40:23] Again, I didn't watch it.
[00:40:24] So I'm looking at a scorecard
[00:40:26] and seeing he looked like he got defensive. two wickets down. The more the better, the steam is all about doing special things and creating history. They can have as many as they want and we'll go and get them. Is this just false bravado? Is it arrogance? Is it trying to show create a siege mentality? That's what the cricket podcast guys thought that we're going to create this mentality that we can do what everything.
[00:41:41] But is that what irritates people about basketball or is it something else?
[00:41:46] Because they never actually use a term basketball to be fair to them.
[00:42:45] say it, somebody else is that is smoking some fine shit, which no comment, if that's what England's doing. I mean, I think I look at it almost a little differently, where these
[00:42:49] comments and stuff are upsetting and annoying and irritating and all that. But I actually
[00:42:54] added to irritates, we are a little bit less right now, because I sit here and say, you
[00:42:58] look, you just look like an idiot. If you could go and say, I'm going to make 800 and
[00:43:03] you get 122 all out, you just look like that much no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[00:44:21] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[00:44:26] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and say, all right, two tests left. We want to kill the series off, and we want to finish it as soon as we can. The alarm bells are ringing somewhere. Yeah, the mic is good enough that it picked that up. Some sort of ambulance behind me, apologies for that. Rachi next, and there I'm trying to finish it off.
[00:45:41] We want to finish the series three one by Rachi.
[00:45:44] Who do you change if you're the Indian think tech? You can't really change jazz while in Roy, Gail, of course. You're not touching Jadayda or Salfras and Jarela have earned their spots. I can't get the next job. That's been a great result actually, this time. So it's really that Pathy, their spot. And then the Bumra question, right? That's it.
[00:47:00] So I think the Pathy, their spot if KLS fit,
[00:47:03] he walks in at number four, no questions for me. No shami, right? Like, and so Mukesh Kumar is not going to replace a just breathe boomerang in this line. Just picked up six in the Ranji by the way. Yeah, yeah. I think it was a bit ganteen eleven. I think it was a bit ganteen eleven. But one of my favorite moments by the way of this tester also, boomerang watching Jourud block everything and then say, Yetumari Nireh? What am I?
[00:48:20] Mahanikakkhaa.
[00:48:21] At the end of the day, it's just laughing.
[00:48:22] I mean, like, it's just too good.
[00:48:25] And I think you might be a change. I just can't see which one. And then last one for us, Akshad. Is he done for the series? Do you think Jadeja Ash and Kaldiep is the bowling trio? I do think so. I wouldn't say he's done for the series because there's two games left so you never know. But I think this is the trio. Yeah, I think assuming
[00:49:41] full availability, it probably is. We had a long gap between the second and third match.