India v England Final Test Review: Ashwin Celebrates 100th test with a 5-fer as India Win Series 4-1

[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Edges amp and Sledges Cricket Podcast. I'm

[00:00:13] your host Ashwin, and joined by Varun. We are here recording on the back of yet another

[00:00:19] home series win for India over England. It's an occasion we've been recording right after

[00:00:24] the test ends, so it's been about 24 hours, so if you're tuning in live you're probably

[00:00:27] going to move on to the next news cycle. I know you're watching Australia and Aziran,

[00:00:31] I know I've been watching the WPL, but yeah let's take a moment and talk about the film

[00:00:36] now and all the series. First off how are you doing? I know it's a middle of the night for

[00:00:39] Dejez, it's just you and me today. How are you doing? I'm good, I'm really happy Dejez

[00:00:44] not on because I think he predicted four one and I'm pretty sure that you're doing good

[00:00:50] in here a lot about that. So I'm really happy Dejez not on today, but yeah man, feeling

[00:00:55] good, it's that time of the year when your home series is done and you're guaranteed a win

[00:01:00] and then you're gearing up into IPL season at like 10-11 days time. So this is just that

[00:01:07] kind of golden period where you've got to go home, tell your families that the next two,

[00:01:11] three months is going to be hard and you're just setting up for just the best cricket season

[00:01:18] ever. So yeah, it's great to come off a win and tell you can tell I'm excited about what's

[00:01:23] you are already excited about the IPL. I think next week's episode will be a full sort of IPL

[00:01:27] previews and we'll get into that and I'm lucky with some of the new second most so fast that I've

[00:01:32] already thinking about all the things that are ahead but it's importantly take a minute. First

[00:01:35] off, you said something like your guaranteed a win in the home series. Now what I think that tells

[00:01:40] you so much about how far India has come. I don't know if you understand that said we have just finally

[00:01:45] over the course of India's history, it went to a loss ratio in the last decade of one to one

[00:01:51] which means we've just finally won as many tests. Yes, I heard about that for a different sort,

[00:01:56] like I had another friend sent it to me. That won a number right? I mean it's just never happened

[00:02:01] right over time it's been a ratio of 0.30, 0.4 and slowly it's definitely increasing but just take

[00:02:06] a minute till that said again India has now won as many tests as we have lost whereas 50 or

[00:02:12] 30 years ago that was probably half the ratio. I mean what a journey this side has been under

[00:02:18] the last call in decade of course especially at home. But I think that's side two and it's been pretty

[00:02:23] unbelievable. Yeah because you remember I let's I mean I don't have the stats in front of me but even

[00:02:27] if you assume the number of tests played per year has gone up, the ratio of the home and away test

[00:02:32] should not have changed too much. So if you're at 0.30, 0.50, 0.6 it just shows how much you're winning

[00:02:39] at home and how much you're winning overseas. You always have these one or two series where you lose

[00:02:43] at home I think in London it against us 10 years ago to 12 years ago and so those kind of

[00:02:48] abrasions happen but once you've cemented the home and then you start winning away that's when

[00:02:53] you become a really great D my free. Yeah good not a great one. So big victory and a lot to

[00:02:58] thank you because so much of the talks have been about basketball ultimately three day test

[00:03:04] innings defeat for Ben Stokes and the basketball tactics and you know one of the things that

[00:03:10] come to come to a thing we'll talk about the test first but a lot of change in the narrative

[00:03:13] Sunday. But Macala mess come out today and said even to look at this a little bit Ben Stokes is

[00:03:18] said less than I don't buy anything away during a series but now that this two month long series

[00:03:22] is over I can say we would have played so so come to that again at the end after we've

[00:03:27] discussed much more what is your immediate reaction with that kind of change in the game?

[00:03:30] I think let's talk about it now I think I firstly basketball is a fun media term okay

[00:03:37] I think I genuinely think it's entertaining so they they have come out to say that it's a it's

[00:03:43] a brand of playing cricket right and I don't disagree with that I think you know when it becomes

[00:03:48] stupid that's when it becomes a problem but if I dig deep in my memory isn't as good as DJs but

[00:03:53] if he was here but I don't remember too many basketball-esque moments in the series except for

[00:04:05] probably one where Joe Roode got out trying to swing right it is you have to make runs fast and

[00:04:13] I believe in that theory but I don't think they lost this because of the as well let me just put

[00:04:18] in that like I think there was a lot more to it than just basketball but I think the manner in which

[00:04:24] they lost in the last four tests right so just as a quick recap they won by 28 runs in the first test

[00:04:31] and we were all like oh my god there's no coldly there's no punth there's no shami there's no

[00:04:36] kale there's no nomenclature ages on and off and we were like this is going to be trouble I mean

[00:04:42] and then they came back and started kind of really

[00:04:48] steam rolling them India won second test by 100 over 100 runs third test by over 400 runs

[00:04:53] that was a third fourth test by five wickets and the fifth test by an inning so

[00:04:58] I don't basically long long answer to your short question I don't think that there was a

[00:05:04] basketball involvement in this series as much as the media made it up. Yeah I think that's

[00:05:09] fair I probably have a slightly different approach and DJI talked this a lot on a couple of

[00:05:13] the episodes you missed but really quickly some of the frustration for me was is the messaging

[00:05:18] and the narrative and yes there's the media side but there's also the player side there's like

[00:05:22] a completely unnecessary for a band-duck it to say something like just what is

[00:05:27] bending fast probably because he learned something from us and did you see the orchids response

[00:05:30] yeah I don't think I'll discuss it last week but that's because it's been happened after that

[00:05:36] but yeah he said yeah he basically said I don't think bendak ira seen one guy in RT play his

[00:05:42] name is Rishabh Path right like yeah you didn't invent this you just you're trying to build a

[00:05:50] culture around it I get that but you didn't invent what this is and yeah yeah and there's a

[00:05:55] couple moments in that fifth match which I do think I think you're being generous by saying it was

[00:05:59] just that journal reverse because all you pop cutting stumped basically being halfway down the

[00:06:04] pitch was a pretty pretty kind of a common moment but one of those yeah but again in that one

[00:06:09] I'm not sure if it was the Hasbolo if he just realized there's no other way for me to kind of

[00:06:15] play cool deep right like anyway you can debate this till the class couple

[00:06:18] I don't know you have a much more I just the reason I think I have a

[00:06:22] and if you're on YouTube send us your comments I'm curious to hear what people think but

[00:06:26] I think that the reason I'm he didn't help to for me it didn't help the Ben Stokes came out and

[00:06:32] said what is the definition of Hasbolo it's trying to get better as a player over time like oh

[00:06:37] like nobody had ever thought about trying to become a better cricket or other course of time

[00:06:42] try to make up like what do you say it just makes sense so very well fair enough about that

[00:06:48] let's talk about the test we'll talk about the fifth test in Hormschallon first off

[00:06:52] but have you ever seen a more beautiful cricket card I mean maybe Mark Morgan and New Zealand

[00:06:58] with them I mean DJI have been to Newlands in in Cape Town that's nice and that was close but I

[00:07:04] do think the Hormschallon so actually yeah we should three of us should make a pact to go to

[00:07:08] the Hormschallon we definitely should especially you can get results like this there right yeah

[00:07:12] yeah England was such a something besides to back first I mean logically the right decision

[00:07:18] not a debate about three quicks potentially and that becomes relevant as you see what actually

[00:07:21] happened but you know India there was some debate about three quicks they stuck to their strategy

[00:07:25] which was three spinners at home basically for as long as they can remember England ended up with

[00:07:30] the two quicks as well Mark Gordon James Anderson not a bad start or England as seems to have been

[00:07:36] the case right so as you think about yeah as you think about how England has approached their

[00:07:44] earnings operators are kind of pretty well so as you think about Crowley and Ducky put up 64 for

[00:07:50] one 64 for Ducky and Pets out basically then you think about going into lunch at about 100 on

[00:07:55] I think there were four ones still then that only poke insanity that secondary could be falling

[00:08:00] and where do we go from there and Zack Crowley gets out and then 175 for three best

[00:08:06] to start the best to us hitting it over a run-on ball by the way could be a bit of all three

[00:08:13] yeah I was going to say basically Cole Leap's introduction was the game changer right because

[00:08:17] in India like I think we went about 18 to 20 overs without overcame and I was starting to worry

[00:08:22] a little bit because then when there's the pace of runs that they score at comes into play you

[00:08:28] I just wanted that you know if this team gets 400 by the one and a half days it's very hard to

[00:08:34] win that test yeah yeah so unbelievable by the way like listen we're talking about three quicks

[00:08:40] and Cole Leap comes in gets both openers get some people gets Johnny Bear store 175 for four

[00:08:47] and on the next you know immediately in the next few months gets basically 175 for three

[00:08:56] a hundred and eighty three for eight let me just think about that I was the turning point of the

[00:09:00] my trade we talk a lot about how there are these short phases of play that there are triggers that

[00:09:06] are turning points in the match and obviously from the 175 for three at lunch on day one or at

[00:09:11] close to tea on day one it feels pretty great about it and a hundred and eighty three for eight

[00:09:16] Ash came and cleaned up the tail brilliant brilliant wicked of today's gonna get you a route

[00:09:21] up to standing up BW and 218 all out I mean aren't just that shared demoralization of being

[00:09:28] 175 for three and 218 all out and they have to be feeling pretty good right yeah India had to be

[00:09:33] feeling on top I think England probably lost the game there right because at 175 for three even at

[00:09:40] 175 for four you are still very much in this game it's a decent batting track you know you put up

[00:09:47] 300 350 or in the game now in I think that that period of play where best store root and stokes all

[00:09:56] went without scoring a run just kind of was that that was it right and to me like I don't know

[00:10:04] what's your period of stokes just hasn't got going did you know that there was a stat that I think

[00:10:08] said Stokes and Kulip have backed the almost the same number of balls in the series that's a good

[00:10:14] set of hands in the world I think you haven't brought him into your stock spatted 10 innings for

[00:10:18] 199 grams average of 19 19.9 right then folks who had an objectively horrendous series averaged

[00:10:26] more than him by a little bit and because he also planned one I think very good innings sure but yeah

[00:10:31] objectively you know only he came like and then best to average 23 but I mean Tom Hartley average 18.5

[00:10:39] like almost almost as good as his best store so best talks has added objectively horrendous

[00:10:44] series yes he comes on and this is part of what's for us really about that's one media from you

[00:10:48] which I won't get distracted by again I promise but Tom's on thinks it gets a little bit about

[00:10:53] this first ball and now that looks like what if he could abort the whole series whatever

[00:10:58] like he couldn't you picked up as a specialist better he has a bold test forever

[00:11:02] but yeah and I don't know my godfiel is that if he especially since he's picked up especially

[00:11:06] better I feel he was batting too low because by the times like I don't know when when he was coming in

[00:11:13] they were already in this momentum of losing vacates he just couldn't settle obviously boomer and

[00:11:18] could leave just and as a ash just got the better of him so there's nothing denying that but somehow

[00:11:23] just feel that he was batting too low for somebody who's playing as a batting specialist

[00:11:27] the only potential swap is is with best talk you move them up to five you move stocks up to five

[00:11:32] yeah push bets right down but then you really do have to question best of six folks seven I mean

[00:11:36] I'm gonna wrap up this with with kind of marks for him India but if you're an english great

[00:11:41] podcast even marks he couldn't give good marks to stokes folks all better so yeah and so that's

[00:11:45] just tough and sometimes you've got to think if best like he's a good test player outside of India

[00:11:52] right you maybe you just should not have played him now had he broke went home maybe he would have

[00:11:56] been the replacement I don't think they had such a very replacement for him yeah but I would not

[00:12:02] play best if you can see that he's struggling yeah so let's wrap the test and I will talk

[00:12:07] kind of overall but 218 by the way for Simon and Hermeshala all 10 vacates have been taken by

[00:12:14] his winners which is completely counter what you expect and I didn't talk about it but that

[00:12:18] opening spell from boomer and Sarah was actually exceptional exceptional moment and the openers

[00:12:25] for the credit to the English openers they managed to play it up but then of course that's

[00:12:29] the beauty of this Indian team right boomer comes on puts in brilliant spell and you think all right

[00:12:34] if I can just see him out then Ash is coming on the 100 test 500 markets and then Kuhi Poo's just

[00:12:42] had the series of his life I mean and then Jadayja comes right after and bonding consistent

[00:12:46] like it there's just no break right if you're the English man yeah there isn't and then it starts

[00:12:51] to question when you when you see 10 vacates by spinners then you start to wonder and again we're not

[00:12:55] going to go back into this topic but should boomer have been rested in the last game right which you

[00:12:59] guys have been rightly calling out this is like a Pacer's pitch and they just kind of had a

[00:13:06] field day with this spinner so but one thing I do want to say is I feel like Syla just has had

[00:13:10] had a not really nice kind of five test series he's had to bowl five six overs playing it's

[00:13:17] like a nice warm up you get to be in the action in the dressing room with your mates it's been a

[00:13:23] pretty good holiday for him yeah let me see he that he bowl in five matches Ash won 156 overs

[00:13:29] Jadayja 146 boomer 103 so at about 67 there's exactly so my match both played four matches and one

[00:13:37] bowed out of the three hours one more years yes so say it's a pretty good I mean I think he

[00:13:40] boolves more than this on often days like non-match just a big practice so it's it was a pretty good

[00:13:46] rest for him why not why not it's going to go into the country up to see the home shall

[00:13:51] all right let's talk about the response right so 2018 all out this is the first time in

[00:13:56] that I can remember all five vendors crossed 15 two of them crossed all top five managed cross

[00:14:03] two of them crossed 100 I mean just all just rush a blood to the head a little bit to be on that's

[00:14:07] about 57 or 57 bonds before he got that one yeah I mean yeah it's just sad he's young man he's

[00:14:15] going to have to learn that was just not on especially when you've had such a good series and it's

[00:14:22] not about stats anymore like he's done very well from a series perspective but yeah you got to just

[00:14:26] piling the runs when you can right I think he cemented his place so there's no doubt it's just about

[00:14:33] anyway I don't know faulting he's done something great job but it's just youth where I think it

[00:14:36] just comes down to bed so let me just share this because I was looking at numbers as we were

[00:14:40] talking about that's exactly the good series made 407 roe it made 400 he made 450 to all good

[00:14:47] series good decent totals for five minutes six dashes we just want 712 yeah I mean I think he's

[00:14:55] beaten Colisex record for the season absolutely stepper absolutely stepper and you didn't even get

[00:15:01] to get the chance to batten that second andnings of the fifth because they didn't need it I mean

[00:15:05] just phenomenal and then yeah for credit again to Robert of course that lack for a media set point

[00:15:10] that he got out just jokes as far as which was a peach or delivery man he's fantastic board the whole

[00:15:16] series I don't have the patience to do it but I thought for sure but like mixed right there was

[00:15:24] when the third test or so you had a couple of good knocks but there was still some discussion on

[00:15:28] like that so everyone I know was that he should be dropped and yeah I mean a lot of people

[00:15:37] are telling me you should be dropped here this month is placing exactly like you were saying

[00:15:40] and I was obviously like my person at least says that when somebody says that I tend to over

[00:15:46] go the other way next year I'm like he's the future captain of India how can we drop the future

[00:15:50] so that was just a very bad response from my side but maybe somewhere I believe it but the point is

[00:15:56] he is truly the all format batsman right after the Radhkoli Rojama he is the future leader

[00:16:05] he has the technique he scored the runs he may not have done well I'm agreeing with you

[00:16:09] but then the thing is between that criticism and the fifth test what he's done to me is phenomenal

[00:16:17] like I mean that whole Raul Raul if not you then who if not now then when he's taken a pujarra

[00:16:24] he's played with control he scored runs like the last thing you want to do is also be playing 150

[00:16:29] balls like pujarra and then scoring 30 you've actually scored 110 you've given the team that set up so

[00:16:36] I this guy is here to stay he's the future I think we need to just kind of invest in him and

[00:16:42] and give him that security right I think talks about dropping him that don't make sense I'm just

[00:16:48] it could have gone either way I could have been sitting here saying I was going after the second

[00:16:52] test I think you know he'll is a limited overs player it's worked in my favor since I backed him

[00:16:57] but yeah he's the future yeah I mean and did you see they have shot by the torso

[00:17:04] couple of pictures of the girls do that was like for the first time

[00:17:13] I mean the last thing I'll say is that I was just seeing that picture is it kiss you

[00:17:18] probably should have said that's the exact right perfect lighting and

[00:17:24] so the only thing I said exactly what you said is listen you got to give guys a chance is

[00:17:28] I would love to see what you'd like to get one more match now I'm unbelievably chuffed for

[00:17:33] this those panic comes in at four not an easy place to make a test debut by the way very

[00:17:38] difficult panic I mean some of the greatest players have ever played in man and four and it's

[00:17:42] not easy spot to come make your debut very few then start in there but look good right 65

[00:17:47] I'm trying to show you the political 50 day bet on in the series by the way which is definitely some sort of

[00:17:53] a little idea so the Gava series yeah no it is he looked he did well I don't know I'm not I haven't

[00:17:59] met up my mind about Rapa Raja Patwari yet like sometimes when you're in bad form like the shots

[00:18:06] the way he got out was just a troche that I've never seen anything like that like back to back right

[00:18:11] so I sometimes the break may not have been bad because I think he's just doing himself harm

[00:18:17] he stopped here he can go back and you think get a thousand run run gc's and then come back like

[00:18:22] I don't see him coming back in a rush but he could so I don't think the break was bad but yes it's

[00:18:28] harsh on him but Kuroa's will party come and stepped up made the runs he didn't look that great

[00:18:35] at the start kind of like what Salfaraz was like at his first few balls yeah in test cricket

[00:18:40] but then you just the nerve settle you trust your stroke play trust your defense and you just

[00:18:45] get moving from there so I've been really happy to see particle I've been really happy to see Salfaraz

[00:18:50] as well you know Salfaraz didn't get a big hundred in this series but I think he got multiple 50s

[00:18:58] and more than two in fact I think every game he played he had a 50 yeah and he averaged

[00:19:02] and doing two and one and he averaged 50 at the end of the end of the series right I think

[00:19:06] two hundred runs in five winnings average of 50 lots of I mean striker of 79 which is along with

[00:19:13] Jesswell better than a lot of the English batter so for all the best ball to argue of Jesswell

[00:19:18] etc. Striking and a faster striker which was great to see too yeah right so as a

[00:19:23] leading rap unfortunately Gerald couldn't do too much I don't want to talk a little bit about the

[00:19:28] 427 for six when Gerald got up then Janayja and Ash got out very very quickly

[00:19:35] and there's something to be said for your number nine and ten putting on more than 50

[00:19:39] runs but yeah but more than that actually surviving more than you know 25 hours that says a lot right

[00:19:45] that is a really a different thing to do so yeah so and and that's a lot of people who are discussing

[00:19:49] that you know there's both these guys right so boomerang first I think boomerang average is only 10

[00:19:54] or 12 or something like that in the test cricket at least before this 30 and when you

[00:19:58] are 7.3 to currently right yeah as of the okay so I think it was almost like it was like

[00:20:06] four previously and then 12 after that right because there's been a stark difference in the last

[00:20:13] four years versus what he he was and remember boomerang the guy who should be not out a lot of

[00:20:18] there right so his average should should not be seven yes I mean it's based on playing the numbers

[00:20:24] yeah but I think full credit to him and then I could be man like to play 70 balls is just something else

[00:20:32] and I I think even Harsha Bhughaleh asked him at the end of the match when he got the player of

[00:20:38] the match award that you got to talk about your batting and he just said look I've worked on it

[00:20:42] I gave a lot of credit to the to the batting coach and it's such an asset right because your young

[00:20:49] guys like can you imagine if Dhruj Jurel and all didn't have a colleague to help them

[00:20:54] he wouldn't have been the success story that he would have right so it's important like I would

[00:20:59] disappoint him with Ashwin I don't know what he did I think he was just determined to not bat

[00:21:03] this series yeah but yeah I think overall fantastic yeah so full credit I mean 258

[00:21:10] ardor and lead or what do we take a very quick break we come back top the human beings and then talk

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[00:21:39] on all social media but I was messaging her at this point 258 ardor 2858 ardor

[00:21:46] was like listen the batting the track seems like it's gotten better we were joking about it

[00:21:50] and I'm saying what are the chances what happens if this match actually ends today because

[00:21:53] we were trying to schedule recording with this podcast and could we go live up to the match

[00:21:57] and you're like listen don't write it off it's technically possible and of course we now know that

[00:22:01] that's what happened so I didn't get to watch sighting things in real time I've only seen

[00:22:04] watch the highlights you know what we do kind of kind of what happened you're chasing 258 at the

[00:22:10] very least from a psychological standpoint even if you think the game is beyond you you want to

[00:22:14] try to make that up they are the other team back again right yeah absolutely you definitely do I

[00:22:21] think it's but I think it's also the last innings from their perspective of the last test I don't

[00:22:28] know whether you're thinking that much about putting India in again look you called it a few tests

[00:22:34] the way you said Rohit is opening with Sylaj and boomrabadi's leaving out India's best new ball ball

[00:22:40] and I was just stopped up like who the hell he talked about and it was Ravi Chandranath Shrin right

[00:22:45] of course I don't know how I didn't get that but he cleaned up crawly duck it and pop and it just

[00:22:52] kind of it just fell after that these look the thing with England in the in this series is that if

[00:22:58] you get the openness cheaply I think you're really in for a short time they've been good and again

[00:23:05] credit to McCullough more stocks for just packing them because both these guys sucked as well

[00:23:11] did it really badly and then they've done really well so so kuru said them for that but yeah

[00:23:17] they were they lost their wicked in the second over in the sixth over and before the tenth over

[00:23:22] the head 36 for three and that's when you knew that this is this is kind of done right that's

[00:23:27] when I also sat down I said okay now I'm gonna really focus and watch this because I think we're

[00:23:32] just gonna steam rule them and that's kind of what happened after that yeah super interesting I mean

[00:23:37] it's just also it just it blows my mind as to what happened in the rings but let's talk a little

[00:23:43] bit about Ash you mentioned right 100 test matched either way bear stole it's just it's amazing

[00:23:50] the bear stole ash and then I think in the same week Williamson and Saudi and the other corners of

[00:23:55] the world all played their 100 test I mean aside from maybe a little harsh or mean and saying I don't

[00:24:01] think bear stole the long thing that company I don't want to get kind of accomplished right and also

[00:24:07] 500 wickets do you see that moment as they were walking out of the first sitting where Kool-Dee

[00:24:11] Patify for ash had four four but it was a milestone test for him and Kool-Dee gave him the ball

[00:24:16] and I threw it back to heaven said no you basically you couldn't you couldn't hear it but he basically

[00:24:21] said suddenly in fact this was yours you got five wickets he made Kool-Dee you know there was just

[00:24:26] some magic about that moment between a junior spinner and a senior spinner and also ash probably

[00:24:31] been like it's like 355 fours I got too many of these match balls sitting in my house probably

[00:24:35] right but yeah I mean it's interesting you mentioned that because the same thing happened in

[00:24:39] the England in England in things but I think James Anderson picked up his 700 three kit yeah

[00:24:46] but I also think sure but she had picked up five yeah right and James Anderson was

[00:24:51] emotional about picking up 700 and he was leading the team off and suddenly he stopped and he realized

[00:24:56] no wait a minute this guest picked up five so he told him to come ahead the kind of hard time so

[00:25:01] it's great to see the emergency that on both sides right within the same test

[00:25:05] yeah so that was quite amazing to see incredible and yeah actually in the picking up five I mean honestly

[00:25:10] not a lot to say a little bit of a fact from Luke to get 84 so it's nice to see that he

[00:25:15] does still have that ability that made him one of the greatest that makes him one of the greatest

[00:25:19] matters of all though but really nothing nothing much else to worry about boom right came in and

[00:25:24] it's been up the tail Kool-Dee picked up a couple again and a match was done in three days I mean

[00:25:28] innings and 64 runs Kool-Dee picks up mad at the match or player of the match

[00:25:34] just or picks up player of the series and in there are some phenomenal series for one

[00:25:39] as England probably goes home and has a lot to think about and a lot to work on

[00:25:43] so Varadami first asking that about the world has championship standings

[00:25:47] so aside from the fact that the over rate points have made England's over net I think they got

[00:25:52] 19 reductions so then the net points are only 21 so they're not second from the bottom

[00:25:58] but well I didn't know about that so they got deduction for over it I mean even India got it

[00:26:02] earlier but this one seems to be more yeah India's total deductions are two points

[00:26:06] Australia's had 10 points and England's had 19 deducted so a lot of deductions right

[00:26:12] yeah I mean India's sitting pretty pretty good at the top I mean as we record this or as we're

[00:26:16] live on YouTube Australia's playing New Zealand and what happens in that match will be

[00:26:20] fate whose second match is looking at it's like 23 to win with three wickets and comments and carry

[00:26:26] like I just the Australian team has something else right now it's going to be great but yeah

[00:26:31] so you want to move through the point say well I don't know if you have that I have an open

[00:26:35] India's right next to the top yeah so India's number one at 68 let's let's go by percent right 68

[00:26:43] point five percent of points one and just before I go on this is what we've all been look this

[00:26:49] test championship was new to a lot of us right now we're in the third cycle many of us have kind

[00:26:55] of figured that India has a high chance of being one or two every type right because

[00:26:59] of what we spoke about you're winning at home and then you're winning the off test overseas

[00:27:03] so it's not like you're getting extra points for CDs so if India goes to Australia and loses

[00:27:07] to one or goes to England loses to one it's still a the point deficit is not as much as one would

[00:27:13] think so there's a high chance and I just think India needs to start prepping because they have

[00:27:19] another home series to go next year and they have Australia CDs where we've typically done well

[00:27:25] so I think India is going to be top two they need to start thinking about that world test

[00:27:29] championship final anyway too far ahead but right now as it stands New Zealand is second

[00:27:36] Australia's third I think that will flip and then Bangladesh is actually fourth Pakistan fifth

[00:27:43] and then the list goes on so it's an interesting fight because I think for New Zealand I think

[00:27:50] the scary thing is that if you're not going to be winning at home and then you have to travel

[00:27:54] to the subcontinent to play some of your away games it's just it's going to be hard so

[00:27:59] currently the way it's looking I think it's in Australia but again guys it's a year and a half

[00:28:03] away so obviously us calling it makes no sense right now. Yeah, Australia final then too many heart

[00:28:10] breaks but yeah Bangladesh has a Travis Travis head has done nothing since November 19. Yeah I

[00:28:15] want to do that side become a country next June yeah well it's not in the Australia final.

[00:28:21] So Bangladesh which is interesting is it for but because they played two matches they won one

[00:28:27] the last one so they're 50% which is better than a long team. But can you see the picture there

[00:28:31] was a picture of the Shilakan team circulating after they won some CDs against Bangladesh and

[00:28:40] it's great because everyone is standing there pointing at their watch like for the time-doubt

[00:28:47] and the whole picture is just that so. Oh man there's just been so much happening so much

[00:28:52] drama and the world record. I want to quickly wrap up the Indian English series so good

[00:28:56] watch test championship table kind of just hit me with your highlights and things you wish India

[00:29:02] from an Indian game perspective and then we'll go by players right so some of them won't be

[00:29:06] surprising but who are the kind of standout players for you that you were most excited about and

[00:29:10] then who do you think left a little bit to be desired from this Indian side? So I guess for

[00:29:15] me it's let's just quickly run down that order right for me it's just while cemented his place

[00:29:21] played beautifully. I a lot of us saw him as a explosive limited overs batsman but he's coming

[00:29:28] and sure that he's there so you know we needed that left team we needed a solid batsman we need

[00:29:33] somebody who can kind of play all formats so I'm very excited about him. I think as much as I'm

[00:29:40] also done with Rohit I also have to say he is he said it himself he's playing his best cricket in the

[00:29:44] last two three years and he's done well when Rohit Sharma hits a test 100 the team wins always always

[00:29:51] always so I think he did well Gilles resurgence was nice. Salfras was an emotional moment I don't

[00:29:58] know if Salfras is going to continue as part of this team once Koli Rahul and Panth return but

[00:30:04] he'll always have this right that angst of not getting there and then getting there and making

[00:30:08] his mark so you know he'll be there I think yeah I think I think what is a little disappointing for me

[00:30:15] is obviously Rajat Patitha I think Jettie just batting and Ashwin's batting to me this he was

[00:30:22] yeah it was if something you expect and it didn't happen and as a result it gave people like

[00:30:26] through Jurel a chance to shine so he's the other big find for me actually the modem saying

[00:30:31] I think every player has been great but Jurel was really fantastic man because I personally

[00:30:39] don't think international cricket has placed for somebody like KS Bharat as much as

[00:30:45] of a great keeper as he is I don't think international cricket is I mean as we're talking Alex

[00:30:49] Kari is on 87 and about two in Australia the game right you've got to think about players

[00:30:55] as keepers who can do that batting at 6 7 or 8 and Bharat just couldn't so Jurel

[00:31:02] I don't think punk is going to get back to keep the game so let me ask you that question right the

[00:31:05] NC has declared punk that's fit now obviously that's not for the strikers for the IPL and then it

[00:31:10] Delhi has sort of indicated I don't know if that'll change but that's fine indicated he's

[00:31:14] going to play as a better in a captain but not girl let's say punk back at full fitness in three

[00:31:19] to four months who do you play it's a really tough decision right I mean look I think you got to

[00:31:25] play if punk is fully fit you got to play punk in tests I think he deserves that now if he plays

[00:31:32] three matches badly he plays three matches badly but I think he deserves that so you're not

[00:31:39] going to have Jurel knocking over a punk but what happens is that if punk was to replace like a

[00:31:45] surfer as and Koli was to replace a particle or a rippantidaar you still might have placed for

[00:31:51] Jurel right if you're putting Jeryja and so it's not over an outfirm I think it's just the start

[00:31:58] and I wouldn't be surprised if you see punk and Jurel both agree yeah so you said things that you

[00:32:03] want to see a little bit better ash and Jurel does batting which I think has been a differentiator

[00:32:07] for us for many many many years now you know at least in the latter part of the series left a little

[00:32:13] to be desired the only other thing I would like is to me I think there's now become a big cloud on

[00:32:18] the role and the certainty if there if you will on Akshapadil right a couple of years ago he sort

[00:32:24] of walked into the side now he said here thinking as brilliant as depositors for Koli as brilliant

[00:32:29] as it is you're just he's that guy who can't help but be chef for so happy for the journey what is

[00:32:35] the mean for Akshapadil as you look at it yeah I think Akshapadil will always be in the mix like

[00:32:40] I've said anyone who's like an oranda always has a higher chance of being in this quad in the team

[00:32:47] I think so long as Jurel is there he's always going to be number two especially with Koli

[00:32:52] presurgence I think Washington Sundar hasn't come up to where we were expecting and so he's

[00:32:59] ahead of Washington Sundar so you're kind of kind of if I'm Akshapadil I kind of have to be okay

[00:33:04] with the fact that this is where I stand between these two guys I am going to play a lot of cricket

[00:33:09] because there is a lot of Indian cricket where Jurel does need to play and so you kind of have

[00:33:15] to be ready for that opportunity and tomorrow if something happens you are the number one

[00:33:20] spinning all around after Jurel so you will get enough chances that's the way I see it yeah that's

[00:33:26] fair I think I mean overall after a tough first loss I mean you talked about they come back right

[00:33:32] and the response from not only the tough first loss but actually being in a commanding position

[00:33:37] in the first test and then losing it and then bouncing back I mean full marks to the boys I

[00:33:43] immediately it's amazing how immediately we pivot to IPR one but just take a second and say say

[00:33:48] unbelievable I congratulations to Roy then the boys great mark I think I'll wrap by kind of asking

[00:33:53] my most important question is have you seen the Instagram picture that Roy had posted about

[00:33:57] with the youngsters and captioned it garden my home naveley did you see that and do you remember

[00:34:02] the context of that one I don't remember the context I saw it but I don't know the context

[00:34:08] I'm thinking what the hell is this me but I have a time to think about it for the first time

[00:34:12] well if you're on YouTube you can give a word about my heart and for not a woman in the rest but

[00:34:17] Roy sort of went a little bit viral about Mario when he was caught in a stump like it's saying

[00:34:22] Koibe Garden Meghomera thought Mahabhank Luna yeah got it it was just great because I was

[00:34:30] wondering guys he was referencing about let's start a day not a day to do all of it like walk

[00:34:35] in the park what is great so listen it seems like there's a great camaraderie inside and you can

[00:34:40] say whatever you want about you know the first match and some of the some of the noise that comes

[00:34:46] out addressing the news talk it seems like right now this team has a great kind of energy is that

[00:34:51] fair to say yeah I think so I think Rohit also I feel for the first time without Koibe being there

[00:35:00] maybe Rohit had his chance to wrap his arms around this steel the way he wanted to not to say that

[00:35:05] can't work with Koibe there it's just that it's different right it's not bad it's better when

[00:35:11] Koibe is there but sometimes you've got to appreciate what it is for the current situation so

[00:35:17] I think yeah I think Rohit has also done a great job and I'm really glad that both Rohit and Rahul

[00:35:23] continued post-world cup because all of us were a little bit uncertain so yeah

[00:35:27] yeah and then last question I ask you about this if you're at Ben Stokes what do you

[00:35:31] do differently you sit here saying can push here hardly no pretty good spots you see Anderson

[00:35:35] got to pick up a seven or we could put a couple your openers to your point had a great stage but then

[00:35:39] you had a lot of weaknesses you you just sort of dusted off with Z-Less and winning an India is

[00:35:46] really really hard and nobody's really done it in the last 17 series or do you do what makes

[00:35:50] them drastic changes I it's a great question I don't have a straight answer to that I don't think

[00:35:59] I don't think I would make drastic changes right if you if you had seen that you know eight out

[00:36:06] of the last 17 series had been won by teams coming to India I think there's a lot more questions

[00:36:10] to be asked I think this team does well I think the broader issue for this team is with their

[00:36:15] whole change of approach why are they not coming and kind of banging on the top two in the world

[00:36:20] as championship so I don't think the India thing is going to force them to rethink I think it's

[00:36:24] going to be the broader play because I don't think they're winning as much as this should at home

[00:36:29] I don't think they're winning as much as this should in Australia or South Africa or New Zealand

[00:36:33] or or anywhere else for that matter so I think changes are needed but I don't think I don't

[00:36:40] think as drastic as we're probably sadistic yeah that's I think that's fair and you know memories

[00:36:46] don't last forever I think they were in England will move on and yeah I mean all one good

[00:36:51] action series is all it takes to undo or one good one phenomenal one stocks now because all it takes

[00:36:56] to undo the hard memories but for now great win by team India or I know we have to wrap pretty

[00:37:01] soon I will take two minutes and quickly just do a rundown of everything that's happening back

[00:37:06] in the in the different the extreme opposite format in the women's primarily that has been going on

[00:37:11] I mean an absolutely magnificent tournament we won't get time to do it justice today but as of this

[00:37:16] morning both the daily capital's and the Romanians have now officially qualified for the playoffs

[00:37:22] and they're listening at the top of the table not something we get to say often with the men's side

[00:37:25] so I'm going to enjoy it and embrace it with both five wins on a seven matches and one

[00:37:31] absolutely out in the Liverpool kind of heartbreak lost to the UP Warriors by one run which should

[00:37:37] have been should have absolutely been a winning game but then on the flip side a little bit of a

[00:37:42] heartbreak loss for the RCB the RCB women's team earlier today and again at the time of recording this

[00:37:50] with 111 runs on the board and RCB chasing it down and Ritchock hosted a magnificent

[00:37:57] bond and just felt one of the shorts from disappointing what you see that happens but just the

[00:38:02] magic of Premier League cricket I also have to you know share a little bit about how incredible

[00:38:08] Mumbai Indians have been in general like just a harmon I think made 98 of 49 1 95 98 of 49 balls

[00:38:16] like just some absolutely brilliant knock so it's been a great tournament I mean when we come back

[00:38:21] next week to talk about the IPL and the Luripil Preview will do a WPL review if you will because

[00:38:28] we'll have had the final by then we're one week out from the final but yeah absolutely incredible

[00:38:34] next to see delian Mumbai already qualified through and then a pretty decent race as I look at the

[00:38:40] points table between Bangalore and UP for 344 as goodrath I think is probably mathematically

[00:38:47] eliminated which is disappointing to see I mean yeah just great to see the game and hopefully more

[00:38:51] expansion more teams next year so you can have continued more competitive competitive round group

[00:38:57] group stage games well class thing I'll say about the IPL KKR was in the news Jason Roy's out for

[00:39:04] third time I think in five years and Phil Salt for the deli player is in any thoughts on that or have

[00:39:09] you already started thinking about IPL more in a big way I mean I'm already IPL board but yeah

[00:39:15] just can't believe we let this guy salt go because he didn't do a bad job and he's been doing a

[00:39:20] great job so for all the DC fans don't get your hopes up this year I think we I've got a very

[00:39:26] substantial team but you never know and we've got a great preview that planned so we're going to

[00:39:32] run through kind of all the teams so excited now for the IPL yeah I always find a pivot this has

[00:39:38] been the Edgeson thread script podcast weren't fun to reload a test series I'm disappointed test

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