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[00:00:00] Yet another United Defeat and people on Instagram are waiting to hear my reaction. That's cool, isn't it? Welcome to The Corner Flag, Amogh. And I'm Bukesh. Oh, I want to say it's good to be back but I don't think it really is for me personally. For you, probably it might be.

[00:00:25] But we have just come back from a lovely holiday wedding situation in Assam. Yeah, and do you want to tell our listeners what happened when we played football in Assam? Yes. We trained for months.

[00:00:46] Yeah. A close friend of Mukesh and I got married in Goati so we were all there for a destination wedding which is why there was no episode last time around. It had nothing to do with the fortunes of my team or even Mukesh's team to be fair in the FA Cup against a certain Plymouth Argyle. It had nothing to do with that. We were there. And this friend of ours decided to host a five-a-side football match between the bride's side and the groom's side.

[00:01:16] And the groom's side had Mukesh and me and Akarsh also actually in the side. And what happened Mukesh? So, you should know that our team, we were so prepared. We practiced for months. We had all the equipment. We had backup strikers. It was a five-a-side and we had backup goalkeepers, backup strikers, backup midfielders. But we just didn't have... We had a dude from England. We had a dude from England who claims to have played at a club level.

[00:01:45] Now, it could be Rotary Club, but still. Let's assume it's at least London. So, let's at least assume it's Arsenal or Tottenham. Right? We had all of that, but we lost. Yeah, we lost. We were the Lagan team. I think we were doomed when we took the white guy. No, we were not the Lagan. We were the Britishers. That's what I'm saying. We were the Lagan team except we were the British people, not the humble locals.

[00:02:15] Yes, that's basically what happened. And in the light of all of that depression, we said we are not going to do a podcast that week. We did think about doing an Instagram live from the wedding venue. All of us suited and booted. But we decided against it because drinking alcohol was better. Yeah. That's true. I didn't drink, but I guess Amog drinking alcohol was better. And I didn't want to talk about either Liverpool losing or us losing. Yeah.

[00:02:44] I was quite humiliated by us losing. Yes. Because we had backup everything. I can't believe we took gloves. Goalkeeper gloves. We had backup keepers. I still maintain that it was a 3-3 draw. Amog, even if they were deaf ears, this would still be redundant. Even to deaf ears. I'll tell you why I still think it was a 3-3 draw.

[00:03:14] It's because they were so competitive about the whole thing. Like they didn't leave any quarter. Right? Like they went for it. And they were also giving it to others. Like, what are you doing? This and that and the other. And they kept talking about it till the last day. So, they obviously took this very seriously. And then in the middle of this, they decided to get a 7-year-old kid to play in their team. And they're like, okay, now for the next 5 minutes, we'll chill. Why? Why? If you're so competitive, then fucking play. No.

[00:03:43] And y'all are all Bengalis. You're supposed to be from the land of football. Then your 7-year-old should also be better than us. So, we scored a goal when the 7-year-old was on the pitch. And really shame on them for trying to be chill, really. Yeah. Really. So, yeah. I feel like it was a draw. But in reality, we lost. So, there. Oh. Now that's out of the way. Do you want to talk about the other losses? Now that that's out of the way, let's talk about the other losses.

[00:04:13] I feel very self-conscious right now because my bald spot is showing. No, it's not. So, I'll give you a bit of context, okay? This is hilarious. The corner flag Instagram is a beautiful place. It's a beautiful place. Mukesh, I know you've deleted Instagram. I have for a few more days. And then I'll make my return. Yeah. So, I don't know if you've seen this. The fucking corner flag Instagram is a beautiful place.

[00:04:40] In the last episode, we had a small bit where we were talking about how everybody who has left United is doing pretty well in life. Like now, you know, Anthony has gone to Real Betis on loan and he's killing it. Yeah. At Real Betis. Three MVPs. Yeah. Man. Great, right? So, I said that I'm going to stop being a United fan because that's the only way I'll do better in life. And we all had a nice laugh about it because it was a joke.

[00:05:08] This whole podcast, it's pretty much a joke, right? But we posted that clip as Reels on Instagram. And thank you for all of your participation. Everybody who has been following and watching this reel on Instagram. It got a lot of interaction. We got a ton of shares and a ton of Man United fans were offended that I would say I'm going to stop supporting Man United.

[00:05:36] Literally, till today, I'm getting comments on that post saying, Yeah, bro, leave. Leave. We don't need you. One guy goes, nothing will happen. We are Man United till we die. I can't even think about it. I can't think about supporting any other club. People are telling me, Yeah, you go support Man City only. That's your, that's your okka. That's what you're like. I am responding to everyone. I was like, bro, I've been watching them since 2000. It's been 25 years.

[00:06:06] Do you think one bad season is going to make me want to stop supporting this team? Three bad seasons, mate. One. So they're still going at it, right? They're going at it. They're like, no, man, but the good times will come back. No, you should fucking leave, bro. Oh, these guys are doing anything for content for likes. They will say. I'm like, yeah, that's true. That's true. That is true. That's very true.

[00:06:35] But in the middle of all of this, right? We have probably got about 200, 300 comments on this. In the middle of all of this, there's one dude that says, Dude needs a hair transplant. Legend. Legend. I was like, oh my God. Oh my God. I'm like, in the middle of all of this. Oh, legend.

[00:07:03] You are like, people like literally people are saying, you are not, you're not good quality fans. You don't have what it takes. You know, you're a plastic. You're a glory hunter. All of these like supposed insults are coming my way. And dude with one line has destroyed myself. I've taken it and shattered it to the point where that comment, that one comment made me fall in love with Manchester United again,

[00:07:32] because I'm like, no matter what you guys do on the pitch, it will never get as bad. It will never get as bad. So I'm like, just one line, just arrow straight to the fucking heart, dude. Man. Oof. I'm recovering still. I'm recovering. Yeah. I don't remember the, the, the handle of the guy who said that, but fucking well done, bro.

[00:08:02] You're a legend. You made my day. And honestly, I have been thinking about getting a hair transplant. Let's go. Amog and I, the corner flag listeners should know that when the recorders are off, the cameras are shut. Amog and I keenly discuss amongst other worldly issues, like peace in Palestine, right? Water in Afghanistan. We also discuss how to go to Turkey and get a hair transplant. We have actually discussed these issues. Yeah.

[00:08:31] And we are actually talking about, listen, have you found any good doctors here? Do you think they take a, you know, discount deal if we go both at the same time, give us a package deal. We are talking about like, what is the best type of hair transplant to go for? We have been watching, like we maintain an Excel sheet of footballers who have gotten a hair transplant. That is true. That is true. Also, Amog and I actively discuss the current status of the scientific developments in the field.

[00:09:01] So if actually any of our fans who love football also have loved their hair and are worried about losing it, is your team losing the league? And are you losing your hair over your team losing the league? Then corner flag is a podcast for you because there are two of us. I am losing my hair stressing about whether Liverpool will win the league. And Amog is losing his hair stressing over if United will get relegated. So either way,

[00:09:28] we have tips for what hair and hair care and hair transplants for you. So you've, you may have passed a mean comment, but you've come to the right place. Like the good times for Man United, hair loss will eventually come for you, you unknown user. And then you will regret what you said. How dare you attack Amog? Do you think we should make a point to stalk this dude for the next 25 years? Because, because male,

[00:09:54] male pattern balding comes for all of us. It is, there's three things, four things that are certain in life. Death, access, Man United being shit, and male pattern balding. So, you know, it's going to come for you too, buddy. And when it does, let's see. Listen to Corner Flag again. I feel like when it does, when he posts that first photo, where a little bald spot is showing, no, I will log into the Corner Flag account

[00:10:22] and have the podcast ever responded. It's probably his wedding day. He's posting a picture of his wedding and I'll be like, dude needs a hair transplant. Oh, fuck. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. To be fair, well played, well played. Credit where it's due. Well fucking played. Made my day. I actually honestly felt bad that we didn't do an episode last week because I was desperate to talk about this. And through the three days that we had in Assam, when we were together, I didn't tell you this because I wanted to do this on the podcast.

[00:10:52] No, I'm glad. I'm very glad. Because then I'll tell you what, if you had told me this in Assam, we would have lost worse because I'd keep looking at either your hair or my hair. I'm like, while being a goalkeeper, I'm looking at a reflective surface being like, hey, can I check myself out? How I lost more hair in these three days. So thank you. People in the other team are saying, what a guy I do. What a narcissist he is. He's always checking himself out. He's like, Ronaldo, bro. Have you noticed that, by the way, every time, every time Cristiano Ronaldo is on camera, right? When he's playing a match

[00:11:21] and there's a close-up on him, observe his face. He will always look at the big screen in the stadium. Always. Of course. All fucking ways. Amok, you're saying, every time. Okay, it's incredible how you're saying that as a, haha, let's laugh at Ronaldo. And I'm like, yeah, but what else are you going to do? You're going to be doing the same thing. I'll be doing the same thing. Now, now that someone has pointed out your insecurity, you watch next time you do those reels for Mumbai city football club, you're going to be interviewing Lacheng Pa,

[00:11:51] but you are going to be looking at yourself. Absolutely. In fact, when we are doing this podcast, now we're doing it remotely, right? We do this on Riverside. And I don't think I'm looking at you. I'm only looking at my screen. I'm looking. And I'm sure you're looking at yourself in your screen. This is a conversation that the two of us are having without looking at each other. And the listeners, and the viewers will never know. They will never know that. Except I've just told them. So, I guess they probably will know.

[00:12:21] Right. Enough, enough fucking around for now. We've got 12 minutes without talking about football, by the way. Or I mean, the football that matters. We have spent 12 and a half minutes doing Bakchudi, which is great. But we should get to the results at hand. Let's start off with Liverpool first, of course. Knocked out of the FA Cup by Plymouth Argyle. Bad result. A draw at Goodison. The final Merseyside derby ending in a draw. What a fantastic result that was. James Tarkowski

[00:12:51] with a 98th minute equalizer. Oh! Oh man, it makes me sick to my stomach that that game and goal was even considered legitimate. I was actually waiting for Akars to come because I just wanted to rip him a new one. Because for all the bloody whining that he does about the big six and the arrey, you know, the number of times you guys get unfair points and all of that. I was like, how? Your first goal

[00:13:21] came from a free kick that was not supposed to be a free kick. And your last goal came three minutes after the time was supposed to get done. And the extra time was given because your players collided and they weren't even injured in such a way that it needed medical attention. Yeah, but to be fair, there were stoppages in stoppage time as well. Three minutes. So 60% of stoppage time becomes extra stoppage time. That's insane. You're supposed to give you 30 seconds max or one minute max. It becomes three minutes.

[00:13:50] Yeah, but there was also a huge VAR check about it that also added to the stoppages. Though that happened much later. The goal, oh my God, please do not even defend that game. It was straight up atrocious. As a neutral. There is no neutral, there is no middle perspective. The perspective was only unidimensional which is that Everton pretty much cheated and undeservingly got a point and Liverpool undeservingly lost two points. I just feel like as a neutral

[00:14:20] as the last Merseyside derby at Goodison Park for it to end the way it ended I think was amazing. just the scenes Dukule getting sent off, Curtis Jones also I think got sent off as well right in that little fracca that happened. Arnie Slott yeah, I got a red card. Yeah, I got a red card. Uh, getting, getting in the referees book as well which is very uncharacteristic of Arnie Slott right? Like he has, he has been such a robot. He has, he has been like Raymond Holt

[00:14:50] from Brooklyn 99. Very robotic. He's bald also. He's the white Raymond Holt. Yeah. Uh, but, uh, he actually lost his bearings a little bit in that and he did mention that he, uh, lost control of his emotions in the Merseyside derby. It's, uh, just, uh, nice to see that he has. I mean, it's, it tells you what the English referees are capable of doing that. They can give him the calmest, nicest, most robotic man and turn him blood red

[00:15:19] boiling to the point he gets a red card because he just can't deal with their incompetence. Yeah. but, uh, what I found funny about, uh, the final, the ending was right. Like, okay. So when Liverpool and United have, uh, or whatever, a bust up, right? It's, it's like the player from Liverpool or a player from Merseyside is like yelling at players or fans of Manchester United, right? It's two different cities. Here I'm like, bhai,

[00:15:50] all the same cities are. Like, you're just, you're creating civil war. There's no point. What are you going to say to these fans? You guys suck. I'm like, it's the same fucking fans. Yeah. No, it's fantastic. What are you going to say? Oh, you guys fucking scousers. Yeah. Same to you, bro. No, but, but that is the beauty of the rivalry, right? Like Liverpool and United, the rivalry is, is more of a competitive rivalry. Right? Yeah. I mean, technically Everton and United is also

[00:16:19] a competitive rivalry right now. Right now, yes. That's so good to say. You're loving it, no? Yeah. You're loving it. Yeah. Yeah. Fine. But, no, no, but, I mean, that's, that's how it is. United City is that sort of rivalry, right? But, anyway, what did, what do you have to say about the Plymouth defeat? I mean, out of the FA Cup, don't, I thought you were going to win the quadruple. I mean, I have, first of all, let's win the single. Yeah. Let's win a single complete. But, no,

[00:16:49] double win the Champions League over the results. No, no, no, no, I just want the single, man. Yeah, so, I was saying that, I think, I'm glad actually because the FA Cup means, I think it's four extra matches. And, I mean, see, Liverpool should have won considering that the team that was started, even though it was like a second tier team, it still had Luis Diaz, it still had, I think, it still had Keller, star as a keeper. So, I mean, you still had, your spine at some

[00:17:17] level was bare bones, it was still a tight side, side that's competed at least at Champions League level. So, to lose to Plymouth, I think at Anfield only, it's quite, oh no, it was not at Anfield, maybe it was at their home stadium, but it was still quite disgusting. Yeah, but it's still quite disgusting. But happy for Plymouth, happy that Liverpool have fewer games to play, I think, because then it just means at least more, you know, at least Endo, Wataru Endo can

[00:17:47] be saved for more important games to close out. I think that's about it. That's my takeaway is that should have won, but in a way I'm glad they lost because it's fewer games to play. And plus there's anyway a Carling Cup final, so between, I feel like, excuse me, between the FA Cup final, between the FA Cup and Carling Cup, either one is okay. So I'm like, okay, we're in the final, we can win it. So I'm sorry, it's disrespectful to the FA Cup, but hey, I'm from now,

[00:18:16] from now on, I'm supporting Plymouth Agyle to win the FA Cup. So. All right. There we have it. He's made his loyalties very, very clear in the FA Cup, at least Liverpool. In the Premier League, however, they did get a 2-1 victory over Wolves last weekend. Again, Mo Salah is just like what do you say? What? I mean,

[00:18:46] penalty. No, but his all-around game, not just talking about his goal, he even got the assist for Diaz's goal. he's... I don't think it was officially counter-assist, but I see what you mean. Yeah, he had the last pass before. His overall game is just so good this season, where he's just, it's almost like he is giving Liverpool a fitting send-off. like, this is my...

[00:19:17] This is the final season of the Salah show. Yeah. This is Breaking Bad Sopranos level season finale. And, you know what's crazy? I don't know if you've been following his Instagram slash Twitter series, but after every game, he takes photos with the goal scorers. And like, last time it was with Luis Diaz, and then there are days when it's just him. And someone pointed out that it feels like he's just collecting memories. And that made me very, very upset that

[00:19:47] he's gonna go in the Liverpool 2.0. For me, 2.0, right? For me, there was a first phase of the Gerard phase, then there was a drop phase. I can really feel it coming to an end. Yeah. Don't you feel bad that you're only getting one season of hair transplant, Salah? I know! I was just gonna be like, ball slot and hair transplant, Salah! Bloody hell! That seems like such an insane combination that you're like, how? How are not getting more of it? It is the exact inverse of balding Salah

[00:20:17] and hair transplant Klopp! Right? It is the perfect inverse of that and you're getting only one season of it and that is quite frankly a shame. Yeah. What the fuck are Liverpool doing? Then the multiverse needs to just realign because this cannot be the only season we get from both of them. Yeah. I mean, again, you never know, right? You never know what Salah is going to do at the end of the season. If he's going

[00:20:46] to change his mind, if Liverpool are going to change their mind, they're going to give him a new contract which is going to, you know, satisfy his financial urges and keep him at the club. So I have been hearing crazy rumors though. Do you want to hear? Rumors that have been worrying me. which is that all three players, Van Dijk, Salah and Trent are all going to go. They've all been told that none of their contracts are going to be renewed because they're going to

[00:21:15] build 3.0, sort of, right? Like another version of Liverpool. And Trent goes to Real Madrid. Van Dijk apparently goes to Barcelona because they need an experienced defender who can captain them and shepherd them. Salah probably goes to either Saudi or he goes to, I hope he goes to Atletico so then the three of them compete. But yeah, the three of them are gone apparently. Do you think though that Salah has

[00:21:45] stayed at Liverpool for way too long? Not really because I think he's not won enough, nearly enough. I know he's come quite close. No, correct. My aim is that, I mean my guess or my hope is that he still probably has two, three really good seasons left because he's taking care of the body and he's sure that. But look at this, the reason why I'm asking and again, no disrespect to Liverpool or Salah even though it might come across as that, very seriously speaking. The reason I'm asking that is because for a lot of players like that, of that level, who come to the Premier

[00:22:15] League, to any team in the Premier League, even the top teams in the Premier League, their goal is to certify their legendary status or close to legendary status at that club and then move on to a Real Madrid or a Barcelona. Like Real Madrid and Barcelona, regardless of how shit Barcelona are right now in terms of their finances, are still a club that players want to play for because of the history that those two clubs have. Real Madrid more so in

[00:22:44] terms of being financially stable. And I just feel like with the introduction of Super Kids and Wonder Kids, where we're seeing players like Kylian Mbappe, Erling Haaland, Jude Bellingham and the likes peak at such early ages, players like Mo Salah post-27, 28 years of age are just not attractive enough for those clubs. Yeah.

[00:23:13] Now, does that make you feel that Salah stayed at Liverpool for way too long? Because I'm sure Mo Salah would have loved to play for Real Madrid and he would have destroyed La Liga. He would have destroyed La Liga. Like, I see Mo Salah as a fantastic addition to a Real Madrid lineup. I can almost see him in the jersey. Okay, so here's what I think, right? Which is you have Lewandowski who went at 36 and he's still killing it. So I think maybe that even Suarez went to Atletico at

[00:23:43] 33 and ended up winning the league with them. And that was the last achievement. So I think maybe right now the age is still before it used to be 29. Now it's probably a little older. Like now you can maybe extend by three. That's one. Second thing is I think when Salah was at his first peak, right? Which is between 2017 to 20. Liverpool was the best place to be, right? Because you had the Madrid and Barcelona still spearheaded by your old guard, which is Ronaldo and Messi, right? City was already packed,

[00:24:13] right? And the only team that was really just ready to take Salah's legacy to the next level was winning it with, winning the league with Liverpool and winning the Champions League with Liverpool, which he did both of them. And if there was a little bit more luck, a little bit more composure, they could have been at least two league titles and two Champions Leagues, if not one a piece, right? But that didn't happen, fair enough. So maybe if he left, and I think the problem was after that, during COVID and maybe

[00:24:43] football was a little bit no way or not there, so it took about 22 to recover. Then there was a quadruple hunting season where he ended up not winning anything, again losing by a point. And the season immediately after that, Barcelona was in trouble and Real Madrid were both in trouble and they looked like clubs that were going to go down. It looked like, again, I think the problem was he was always caught in the, if I leap now, am I going to a shittier situation? And for whatever's said and done, Klopp, last season was challenging for the title and the Champions League.

[00:25:12] In that big season, they were challenging for four trophies at a time. There was that one season in between where I think Liverpool finished sixth or something. But other than that, I think there was no season where he could have really jumped confidently. In the kind of Barcelona till say 2017 or 2018, it was very clear the path. Even though Messi was there, you could be a player around them and you know what you want to do, which is how we saw when we were growing up. We saw Andri on the Fabregas, all of the you know, Marsha Rano, Jabbi Alonso.

[00:25:42] We saw all these guys from all of our favorite teams leave. Right? But I think by the time Sarabh peaked and when he was ready to take that jump, those clubs weren't at their peak, which I'm still saying right now. But the good thing is those clubs seem to have stabilized like maybe the time is still ripe for him to jump. I mean, probably I would say he fits more in the Barcelona mold rather than a Real Madrid mold. Yeah, I do feel like.

[00:26:12] I see him more in a Real Madrid shirt. Oh, that's a good poll question for us. If Sara were to play in the La Liga, would he be for Barcelona, Real Madrid or some other team? Yeah. what you said is correct. when you say about Suarez going to Atletico or what was the other example that he gave? Lewandowski to Barcelona. They were still

[00:26:41] not marquee signings. Right? Yeah. They're elite players, they're marquee players, but at the time they made those moves in their career, they were not considered as marquee signings. Right? Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid was a marquee signing. Kylian Mbappe to Real Madrid is a marquee signing. Right? Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid when it first happened was a marquee sign. Salah had the potential to be that.

[00:27:10] I know he had, but when he could have jumped, I think the clubs were being run, mismanaged financially, you didn't know their future. Real Madrid went from Galactico strategy, they had to go back to hiring young talent strategy, which Salah was clearly not. After the failure of Hazard and Luka Jovic, they quickly abandoned that Galactico 3.0 strategy, which could have been, I was going to say Saland,

[00:27:40] but Haaland or Salah or Mbappe, if not all three. Right? And then that's, oh my God, just thinking about that possibility only is crazy, right? Mbappe, Salah and Haaland, that would have been their Galactico 3.0 project, but I think that didn't happen. Now they've sort of with young people home built a Galacticos of sorts, with of course, Kylian Mbappe being the real marquee signing. Yeah, but I think

[00:28:10] that's the problem with Salah was that he was in that middle phase where Liverpool just was the best option. And it was the only team that could really challenge Man City or challenge there was no other coach other than Klopp who looked like he could genuinely challenge Pep Guardiola. So even if he went to Barcelona or if their finances were sorted, who was the coach who could manage him, right? There was nobody else. Even Arteta for all the hype he's

[00:28:40] getting, he's taking advantage of the fact that Guardiola has declined, but he never really pushed Guardiola in the way the Klopp pushed him. So I do feel like maybe Liverpool was probably the best place for him to stay. Enough wanking of Liverpool. Let's talk about Man City. 4-0 victory over Newcastle United. Omar Marmosh scoring a hat-trick on debut. The Egyptian prince is what they're calling

[00:29:14] was the true Egyptian king, right? He was the true Egyptian king, right? Oh my God. Oh my God. He was the Haaland before Haaland. Yeah. I mean, but okay, honestly, how, what did first of all, I think Miru was playing for Middlesbrough. Where was he playing? Which club was he playing for? He played for Swansea, no? Swansea, yeah? Okay, okay. But yeah, good. I mean, this Guardiola is getting

[00:29:43] scary again. I don't know, like, he'll suddenly freak out, suddenly go back in. I mean, no, it's not that because they did fall apart against Real Madrid, of course. I mean, that is Real Madrid, yeah. But they fell apart in a spectacular fashion because they were leading 2-1. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like, I'm just worried that the Premier League

[00:30:13] top two slash top three sides are taking Man City a little too lightly. Yeah. I mean, this is how it is, right? Like, Man City in their worst ever season in recent times are still fourth. Only three points behind Forest. So, I mean, that's just the weirdest sentence one could ever say on a podcast. But I guess in a way not because, you know, two-time Champions League winning team Forest. Champions League team winning Man City.

[00:30:44] Yeah. Let's talk about that thing that I really don't want to talk about that. Tottenham hotspot won Man United nil. Man, you lost. How does it feel that Tottenham, I think I've done a double on you this season? Yeah. How does it feel to go from... I don't, I've stopped counting. I feel like every team has done the double over us this season. How does it feel to go from lads, it's Tottenham to whatever the fuck this is?

[00:31:13] It's gone from lads, it's Tottenham to lads. We're Manchester United. What's going Honestly, like, I actually preferred going for a walk over watching that game. And I was proven so right. If it makes you feel any better, I saw the game. Why? Why would you do that to

[00:31:43] yourself? Because I just wanted to relax. There's something new internet term called hate watch, which is when you just watch your enemies burn. Yeah. And this was a match of which double team can act dumber. Yeah. Yeah. Remember, a long time ago, there was this, I don't know if it was everyday batteries on Amaron batteries, which just featured these two old guys fighting and throwing punches at each other, where they couldn't barely lift their arm. This felt like that.

[00:32:13] Just two shitty teams scrambling. Initially, I thought, okay, you know what? Maybe these are the sort of teams that Tottenham's attacking style really thrives against. They got a pretty early goal. I think in the 12th minute or something, they're going to make it at least, it's going to be a 3-0-4-0 route or maybe a 4-2 high scoring match. It was so dull, it was so boring and I couldn't believe that, I mean, I know they're all youngsters, but I couldn't

[00:32:43] believe that Amarim did not, he made only one substitute on that too, I think at the 87th or 88th minute. 89th minute. 89th, what do you have to say for that? Don't, I honestly don't know what he's thinking. I don't know what he's thinking because it's getting worrying now very fast. Very quickly, it is like this, whatever this is, this is the opposite, exact opposite of a new manager bounce. And it is getting worrying so quickly that

[00:33:14] I don't even know how to react to that because yes, we have a lot of injuries. Like it is ridiculous, firstly, that Kobe Maino, Manuel Ugarte and Ahmad get injured in training. To add to that, Luke Shaw comes back from a long-term injury and gets injured again. Sorry, I shouldn't laugh. No, but it's true. There's nothing else to do but laugh, right? So there's

[00:33:44] so many injuries, right? You have let go of Anthony and Marcus Rashford and you have no strikers left. You have Hoyland and Zerksy. That's it. That's it. What? And then you have, you supposedly have this great academy. You have named all these players on your bench. That guy, Chido Obi Martin that we signed from Arsenal who's been killing it in the under-19s. He's scoring for three goals, four goals for fun every match.

[00:34:15] Why won't you play him? Why won't you play fucking Aiden Heaven who you've just signed? Why won't you play Dan Gore? Why won't you play Harry Amas? Like these kids are bodies at least. No, at the end of the day, at least their bodies, they're young, they're fresh, they might not be as experienced but what do you have to lose? At what point? I just want to ask Man United and Ruben Amarim this. At what point will you be like, yeah, I have nothing

[00:34:45] to lose? What do you have to lose? What is the worst thing that can happen if you put kids? You will get destroyed. That's like that. Yeah, and my thing was that, see, I understand not exposing kids to if it was a rough team, right? Like if it was like Everton. Right? I'm like professional footballers. No, no, See, I understand like not exposing kids to like big rough teams like your Aston Villas or West Hams or Everton.

[00:35:15] I understand they play slightly tough football. But this is Tottenham, they're as injury ravaged as you. In fact, the commentator was saying that this Tottenham defense is not the thinnest and shortest central defense. That means you can afford to play your attacking players. Yeah. And then you have James Madison up front and Son up front. They're not fouled. Son cried this one time when he fouled a player and he cried. Right? So I'm like this was actually a chance where you could have tested your younger fresher players. Like it is

[00:35:45] perfect. Tottenham, they are very, very brash with possession. Right? They're very thin and frail defensively compared to the other teams of course. Right? Their attackers are not rough and they're very polite. This was really the best chance to play your under-19s man. This is nice. You want to use only one substitute and burn your main team players out? Oh my God. Yeah, that was quite ridiculous I thought. Maybe Bruno Finans

[00:36:15] was still playing really well. He was putting the ball in. Maybe a young player could have run faster, shoved his body. But that's the thing, right? You need to take those chances. One thing is you need to be a little pragmatic with the way you play as a coach with the system that you employ. And Amarim is not that. He is very much like Ange in the sense that this is my system, this is how we play and I believe in the system so this is how we're going to play. If I believe in it so much then the players will

[00:36:45] have to believe in it as well. Okay, cool. Big talk, dude, but it's not working. Clearly it is not working. And also there's reports coming in that some of the senior players are not sure about Amarim's system anymore. So what the fuck are you doing? Right? You're going to need money to get the kind of players that you want that will fit into your system. But this new ownership is also not going to spend money because we are fucked in terms of PSR. They're cutting jobs of 100 people every month. Where are they going to buy a

[00:37:14] player to fit your system? They want you to get rid of players. And for me, if he's so adamant about his system, you, come to a club like United, which has a great academy and the legacy of Alex Ferguson, you say, I'm not going to play anybody in the front 11 except for probably the keeper and the captain, Bruno Farage. Get nine academy players, play them every game, turn them up into the super team that you need them to be two seasons later. Right?

[00:37:44] At least show something. This is nothing. You're neither training the young players, you're not happy with the current players who don't believe in you. That I feel like is a big thing. I'm saying you take every player under 21 and say, hey man, you're my team from now on. But six years from later, we're going to be challenging for the titles. And I'm going to train you and shape you. And then you make that public announcement. You make that you're still like, I don't care about the players. I am going to use the academy players. I think that is essentially

[00:38:13] what would really help. I mean, hindsight is a wonderful thing, right? So I would have loved to see that sort of response coming over because everything that Amaram has said, he talks so much about his way of playing, the difficult situation that they're in, the injuries. He gives it as clearly and as honestly as he can, which is a breath of fresh air, sure. But it doesn't amount to shit. If your system is

[00:38:42] clearly not working, what are you doing on the training pitch? What do you do week in, week out that these players put in performances like that? Like this match between Spurs and United was Spurs doing everything in their power to fuck things up for themselves and United doing everything in their power to not capitalize on that. Wow, that was so beautifully put. It was basically that

[00:39:12] and to bring Chido Obi Martin at 89 minutes, what are you trying to prove? What does that do to you? I really want to ask him, what is the thinking behind putting a 17-year-old hot prospect in at 89 minutes? You could have put him at 85 also. That would have been better. Yeah, give him 20 minutes. What do you No, Josh Zerksi will score. What?

[00:39:42] If anything, I feel like similar to how you described Tottenham or United, I feel like Zerksi was taking Hoyland's chances and Hoyland was taking Zerksi's chances. They were beautifully nullifying each other's attacking threat out. It's ridiculous. On the note of Jim Ratcliffe sacking people and making their jobs redundant, an email has leaked at Manchester United. An email from the top management that asked the United staff to

[00:40:12] not leak things because it looks bad as leaked. See, this is why guys of Instagram, this is why I said maybe it's best if we stop supporting this club because it is a fucking joke. What content is United from the That is the reason why this podcast is alive and well because United keep giving us the goods off the pitch, not on the pitch at all. On the pitch

[00:40:42] there is no goods. Honestly, three losses in the last five games and it's a bottom of the table clash with Everton up next. I mean, they're above you. 25 games in. Fuck me. You know, usually this sort of shtick happens for the first 10 games and then it sort of evens out over the last 30 games or

[00:41:11] 25 games. Whereas here I'm like shit, it's reached 15. That's crazy. Crazy. Crazy stuff. Right. On that note, it is time to end this episode. Thank you so much everybody for listening to the Conflag. If you'd like to get in touch with us and tell us what you thought of this episode, you can reach us on our social media. You can find Mukesh on Instagram at Mukesh Mandunath. You can find me on Instagram at Amogran Diwey and also follow the Conflag on Instagram at the Conflag pod. Do subscribe to our YouTube

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