Indeed Attacks LinkedIn
The Chad & Cheese PodcastApril 05, 202400:58:20

Indeed Attacks LinkedIn

In this episode, the boys discuss the recent upgrades at Indeed, including the revamped user profile page and the introduction of AI-powered writer and smart sourcing suites. They also talk about LinkedIn's testing of TikTok-style video options. Chad criticizes Indeed for focusing on the top of the funnel and not moving down the funnel to provide better data for matching candidates. Joel sees Indeed's upgrades as a direct response to LinkedIn's shortcomings and believes that the video feature will increase engagement and interest from advertising agencies. In this episode, Chad and Joel discuss various topics including the potential for LinkedIn to compete with Twitter for advertising dollars, the buy or sell game featuring MetaView, Modal, and Home from College, the impact of minimum wage laws on fast food workers, Amazon's decision to replace its Just Walk Out technology with smart carts, and Apple's exploration of mobile robots for the home.

In this episode, the boys discuss the recent upgrades at Indeed, including the revamped user profile page and the introduction of AI-powered writer and smart sourcing suites. They also talk about LinkedIn's testing of TikTok-style video options. Chad criticizes Indeed for focusing on the top of the funnel and not moving down the funnel to provide better data for matching candidates. Joel sees Indeed's upgrades as a direct response to LinkedIn's shortcomings and believes that the video feature will increase engagement and interest from advertising agencies. In this episode, Chad and Joel discuss various topics including the potential for LinkedIn to compete with Twitter for advertising dollars, the buy or sell game featuring MetaView, Modal, and Home from College, the impact of minimum wage laws on fast food workers, Amazon's decision to replace its Just Walk Out technology with smart carts, and Apple's exploration of mobile robots for the home.

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[00:03:40] Have you heard there's a big event in Indiana on Monday called the Solar Eclipse?

[00:03:46] Yeah, we've got a little town here, Columbus, Indiana, 40,000 people.

[00:03:51] And this weekend we're supposed to have 250,000 people because we are in the direct path.

[00:03:58] It's fucking crazy.

[00:03:59] Yeah, my aunt and little Seymour, which is smaller than Columbus,

[00:04:03] they're expecting like 100,000 people. It'll be great for the economy.

[00:04:08] That's for sure. I hope the weather cooperates.

[00:04:10] Yeah. I mean, no matter what, it's not like people aren't going to buy shit, right?

[00:04:15] It's the thing. It was funny. I was going through physical therapy this morning,

[00:04:20] the whole shoulder thing and everybody was talking about getting your groceries,

[00:04:24] getting it. It was almost like an apocalypse, right?

[00:04:26] You got to make sure you get your groceries,

[00:04:28] got to get your stuff, getting them like, why?

[00:04:31] I mean, you're like, well, you won't be able to get groceries. Everybody's going to buy everything out.

[00:04:34] Four minutes of night in the middle of the day is going to destroy everything.

[00:04:41] As listeners know, my wife is a scientist professor, so we're having a get-together.

[00:04:48] You don't really have parties at our age. We're having a get-together.

[00:04:52] And Sun King, a popular brewery here in central Indiana has an eclipse beer.

[00:04:58] They all do.

[00:04:59] It's crazy.

[00:05:00] Yeah, we have two growlers ready to rock. For Tuesday, we've got the glasses.

[00:05:06] I'm calling it the Joller Eclipse.

[00:05:08] That's so bad. So bad. So how was Easter real quick?

[00:05:13] All good?

[00:05:13] Easter was good. Easter was also Jeremy's birthday. I'm now a seven-year-old.

[00:05:18] So Easter was Godzilla vs. King Kong.

[00:05:22] That's awesome.

[00:05:23] Or they're actually teaming up to fights. Yeah, monsters killing each other.

[00:05:27] It's great.

[00:05:27] Love it.

[00:05:28] Easter egg hunt had my 84-year-old dad come over.

[00:05:32] We had by Jeremy's choice pizza sammies, so like big grinders with pepperoni and pizza and cheese,

[00:05:39] which is fine with me.

[00:05:40] Calzone.

[00:05:41] Calzone.

[00:05:42] And I was like, how about you?

[00:05:43] Yeah, I went down to Clarksville, Tennessee.

[00:05:46] My brother and sister-in-law are getting ready to move to Australia.

[00:05:51] I can't wait to go visit them. So we visit them and their three young boys.

[00:05:56] So that was a good time. And literally on Easter, we started drinking like at 10 a.m.

[00:06:01] and we didn't stop all through the day. Beer-Mosa's, I mean you name it.

[00:06:06] So other brother-in-law actually did a big-ass brisket and ribs.

[00:06:12] And so yeah, it was pretty awesome. It was a good send-off. Let's just say that.

[00:06:17] Yeah. Well, I didn't hear from you on Monday.

[00:06:20] So I assume that you were either hung over or recovering from brisket overdose.

[00:06:24] Traveling back and trying not to fall asleep at the wheel with all that fucking brisket on my stomach.

[00:06:30] Do you have a favorite Tennessee whiskey?

[00:06:33] No, I don't. I'm not a big Tennessee whiskey fan and there are so many bourbons in Kentucky.

[00:06:39] I just haven't pushed past it. Not to mention, I'm really looking forward to,

[00:06:43] we'll talk about this later kids, our trip to Scotland.

[00:06:46] Yeah, tease. I like Bibbon Tucker. Try it out if you have any.

[00:06:50] Yeah.

[00:06:50] I feel like the whiskey is Bibbon Tucker.

[00:06:52] And it's a cool bottle. Bibbon Tucker.

[00:06:53] Cool bottle as well. All right.

[00:06:55] Shout out. All right, we're going to go first shout out kid to Sebastian Detmers,

[00:07:01] the CEO over at Stepstone. So earlier this week he posted the following on LinkedIn, quote,

[00:07:06] after much contemplation I've decided to embark on a digital detox journey and we'll be going

[00:07:12] offline for the next three months. During my absence all standard internal and external inquiries

[00:07:18] will be in the capable virtual hands of chat GPT courtesy of an innovative AICEO partnership with

[00:07:26] OpenAI end quote. So the post goes on, but after reading this I reached out to a couple of friends

[00:07:32] at and I was still you know kind of loopy from Easter by the way at Stepstone and

[00:07:38] Appcast. I was like dude what the fuck? I got nothing but laughing emojis and he got you.

[00:07:44] Yes. It was an April Fools joke and yes Sebastian you got me my friend. You got me. Good job.

[00:07:50] Good job on that one. I fucking hate April Fools.

[00:07:53] Maybe he's been listening to this show because we've talked about CEOs going away

[00:07:57] and being replaced by AI. So it wasn't that out of the norm for us to see something like that.

[00:08:04] Good job. That's good. That's good.

[00:08:06] My first shout out, I'm sure you saw Taiwan had a big earthquake this week.

[00:08:12] And I was amazed at how well the infrastructure handled it. They have a huge building that was

[00:08:21] fine, bridges. It was pretty well maintained. There are a few buildings but the buildings

[00:08:28] that fell didn't like collapse into dust. They kind of like fell off the base. Most of the

[00:08:33] people were saved. Just shout out to Taiwan and their infrastructure in contrast to us.

[00:08:40] It has one boat hit the base of a bridge and the whole thing falls down like a bridge of toothpicks.

[00:08:46] I don't know if it's too late for the infrastructure bill but the USA is in dire need

[00:08:52] of some Taiwanese engineer. Yeah. I think any of those buildings that would have gotten hit by

[00:08:57] a container ship would have gone down. My shout out to Girl Power. That's right. The AP

[00:09:05] is reporting that women's Final Four tickets are on the resale market selling for an average of,

[00:09:11] get ready kids, $2,300 which is twice as much as the men's Final Four. And you've got

[00:09:18] Caitlin Clark from Iowa to thank for that. Camilla over at South Carolina. God, she is big

[00:09:24] and she is like the shack of NCAA basketball for women. Paige Becker's, Angel Reese,

[00:09:33] but Friday matches are Iowa against Connecticut, South Carolina against North Carolina State.

[00:09:39] It's pretty awesome because I know that you remember going to girls basketball games and

[00:09:45] like the scores would be 35 to 12, right? It was excruciating watching girls basketball. But now

[00:09:54] I like watching the girls play more than I do the dudes. Yeah. It's amazing.

[00:10:02] To your point, that was a high scoring affair if it was 35 to 12. That was a banger, maybe,

[00:10:08] back in the day. Totally. So I have friends in Cleveland, which were the Final Four is,

[00:10:14] and I can confirm that they have reached out or tried to get some second market tickets,

[00:10:19] aftermarket tickets. And the cheapest that they found was $800 a ticket. And this is

[00:10:24] a professional arena. This isn't like a high school gym. Like 20,000. This is legit. So

[00:10:29] so huge. And I'm going to mess up some of these, but the viewership of the Iowa LSU game

[00:10:35] Oh God, topped, I think the Grammys like every award show most of the NBA playoff games like

[00:10:44] really big viewership. And I think it's a rematch of last year's final rematch. Yeah.

[00:10:48] Great characters story with those two. Caitlin Clark is very likely to be the first

[00:10:56] pick coming to Indiana, Indiana next year. And as an Indiana resident, I can't be more excited

[00:11:02] than to have her. They also had the first pick last year. So they could be a juggernaut of a WNBA

[00:11:07] team. They're going to sell out the arena, which is kind of amazing. They might outsell

[00:11:11] the Pacers on average. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Pacers are pretty good still. But yeah.

[00:11:18] So my shout out piggybacks on that. I think this has been the most fun

[00:11:22] March madness that I can remember a long time. And a lot of it isn't even the NCAA. You mentioned

[00:11:27] the women's basketball, which I echo the NIT is one of the most fun tournaments that I've seen

[00:11:33] in a while now Indiana State hasn't done anything since Larry Bird was there in the 70s.

[00:11:38] They're the number one seed they should have been in the NCAA, but I'm kind of glad they're

[00:11:42] not because now they're playing in the final four, which is in Indiana. They're playing in

[00:11:47] Butler, which if you're a Midwester or Hoosier, this is like folklore. This is my land and the

[00:11:54] movie Hoosiers like this is a really old historic arena. Indiana State's basically going to be the

[00:11:59] home team in this thing. They beat Utah and they play a Seton Hall, I think for the championship.

[00:12:07] So it's like a biggie school playing Indiana State. Like that's so much fun. They have this

[00:12:12] guy. His name is Robbie Avila and he wears these throwback goggles like Kareem used to wear and worthy

[00:12:21] and he's about six, nine, I think white guy. He's mixed. He's like half Hispanic, half white.

[00:12:28] And he has the best nicknames. His nicknames include cream Abdul-Jabbar, not pouring, but cream

[00:12:35] like cream soda. Larry Nerd, Larry Bird and Milk Chamberlain is another one. So great nicknames

[00:12:44] there. And then you got DJ Horn at NC State. You mentioned the big folks in the middle. This guy,

[00:12:53] he's listed at 275. He hasn't seen 275 since eighth grade. I don't know where the hell

[00:12:58] they're getting that. But this dude, he's got personality. He's fun. NC State is a underdog.

[00:13:08] Purdue is like one all-American and a bunch of Indiana like Jim Ratz. So that's kind of fun

[00:13:16] to watch. Kind of a throwback to teams of the 80s and 70s. But yeah, shout out to March Madness.

[00:13:21] If last month was Six Nations, this month has been March Madness and it's been a hell of a

[00:13:27] fun. Amen. Well, a shout out, last shout out goes to Free Stuff. That's right. Free T-shirts from

[00:13:33] Erin App, free beer in Whiskey that are coming to your front door. Beer from Aspen Tech Labs,

[00:13:40] Whiskey from Tex Colonel, one bottle from Joel, one bottle from me. And if it's your birthday,

[00:13:47] you could win rum. So you have attention in the air right now. I know I can.

[00:13:54] I can feel it all the way down in my plums. All right, a few listeners are celebrating another

[00:14:00] trip around the sun. Kind of eclipse, solar eclipse. I don't know if there's any tie in there. Todd

[00:14:06] Burns, Amy English, Arno Schaefer, Derek Christiansen, Rob McIntosh, Louis Nobrek, and Patrick York.

[00:14:16] Happy birthday! I'll celebrate a birthday this week. Happy birthday to you guys. Excellent. Well,

[00:14:22] I'm not going to be going anywhere for the eclipse because we're getting ready to go to Vegas, my friend.

[00:14:28] We're getting ready to go to Vegas. Yes, we are. Unleash America is coming to Las Vegas again,

[00:14:36] May 7th through the 9th. The day before on March 6th, Joel and I are going to get high.

[00:14:42] No, not that kind of high. We're going to the top of the stratosphere and we're jumping over

[00:14:49] 800 feet to earth with our friend Matt Bauer, the CEO from OutHire. That's right, OutHire.

[00:14:58] What more is that OutHire is paying for our listeners to join us do the jump? So if you

[00:15:05] want to register to win or nominate maybe your boss or a friend to jump with us,

[00:15:10] goodchatchies.com, it's right there in the hero header, click the jump with us button

[00:15:17] right on the home page. Register and come see us then. Yeah, come see us, fall to earth. Then

[00:15:25] on Tuesday, May 7th, this is where Keebu comes in. We're heading to the minus five bar with

[00:15:34] JobPixel and Great People. More details to come but I'm telling you right now,

[00:15:39] we're going to feel like we're in Finland. It's going to be cold. We're going to have the

[00:15:42] big puffy jackets. I guarantee you and then last but not least on May 8th, we're joining our friends

[00:15:51] over at Plum at the Neon Boneyard. You love Lil Neon. Here's Lil Chat and G's Neon where we're

[00:15:57] going to be drinking, eating and basking in the evening glow of Las Vegas' iconic retired

[00:16:04] neon signs. You know those old neon signs that they thought they got rid of? Oh, they didn't

[00:16:10] get rid of them, kids. They're all in a neon boneyard. Google Neon Boneyard. Check it out. It is freaking

[00:16:18] awesome. Us there with our friends from Plum. It's going to be a great unleash.

[00:16:24] It is going to be great but I heard nothing after jumping toward that from your first segment.

[00:16:31] I'm trying so there's a weight limit of 265 I think. I'm trying to, I'm going to see how

[00:16:37] many burritos it takes to get to a point where I get on the scale and they're like,

[00:16:42] Steve, you're too heavy. Sorry. Sorry. If not, I need to invest in some depends because I'm going

[00:16:48] to shit my pants when I jump off this thing. Oh God. Is that it for announcements? That's it.

[00:16:56] All right. We got some red meat for the listeners this week. Indeed has revamped its user profile page,

[00:17:09] introducing an AI-powered writer to enhance work experience descriptions and supporting

[00:17:14] multiple resumes. It also launched smart sourcing suites for recruiters including AI-powered

[00:17:20] candidate summaries and custom messages aiming to reduce irrelevant outreach

[00:17:25] in streamlined hiring processes. Chad, what are your thoughts from the latest upgrades at Indeed?

[00:17:31] This is nothing more than just window dressing at the top of the funnel. Why is it Indeed

[00:17:36] making more of an effort to move down funnel? AI resumes full of hallucinations and easy

[00:17:42] applies. That's a recipe for fucking disaster. How does any of that help companies find the

[00:17:49] right candidates? Well, it just doesn't. So if Indeed wanted to make a real impact, they would move

[00:17:54] down funnel, partner with platforms like Tadio or Hacker Rank to start gathering skills and performance

[00:18:00] data that actually matters. Coding tests, performance tests, gather the data that employers

[00:18:06] actually fucking need. Also from this article I thought was interesting, talent.com was mentioned

[00:18:12] in the story as a competitor. It was, yeah. I mean, come on man. So many of these aggregators

[00:18:17] are just Indeed pilot fish. They're collecting the crumbs, they're not innovating, they're not

[00:18:23] moving the needle and they're definitely not competitors. So if you talent.com and quote

[00:18:29] unquote competitors, if you want to compete with Indeed, beat them to the punch, go down funnel,

[00:18:34] collect the data that employers and LLMs, yes large language models will use to make relevant

[00:18:41] matches better. The reason why I hate on Indeed so hard is because they have the means to change

[00:18:49] this industry and yet they're changing the drapes in the fucking basement. For example, interview

[00:18:55] scheduling, they talk about interview scheduling in this. In 2024, interview scheduling should be

[00:19:00] a fucking afterthought. When a candidate applies for a job, answer some pre-screening

[00:19:05] prequel questions. They should meet, if they meet the requirements, they should have an

[00:19:10] interview now button that pops up and it takes you directly to a qualify, a pillar or a vet for

[00:19:17] interview. I mean, we should be cutting corners as opposed to just playing the window dressing

[00:19:22] game and that's all Indeed is doing and I fucking hate that. 60% of the time it works

[00:19:28] every time. Tell us how you really feel, Chad. Both barrels. So I view this as

[00:19:36] Google came out and sort of struck out against the job board industry and job postings and that

[00:19:42] seems to be alleviated for the most point. Link Google has said we're not getting into pay per

[00:19:46] click, we'll let you guys still put your job postings in our search. So now it's like what's

[00:19:52] the other front of Indeed's war that they need to think about and that's LinkedIn in my opinion.

[00:19:58] So to me, both of these updates are reactions to what LinkedIn is failing to do or has

[00:20:06] effectively crushed outside of its walled garden. So with LinkedIn Job Search,

[00:20:13] LinkedIn Job Search sucks. Like it's related searches or recommendations are awful. So if

[00:20:21] I'm Indeed, I already have a better job search than LinkedIn does. So what does LinkedIn do

[00:20:26] that I can do better? Well, on LinkedIn, I can have generally one profile. And now

[00:20:33] LinkedIn comes out with, oh, now you can have five resumes. So if you want one to be focused on a

[00:20:39] specific skill you can, if you want another resume specific, personally this can go really bad,

[00:20:44] five resumes per person. But at least in theory, it's a strike against LinkedIn because

[00:20:49] LinkedIn only has one profile. So that is a differentiator, whether it's worthy or not of

[00:20:56] competing with LinkedIn, I guess we'll find out but it is a move to go after LinkedIn. I think the

[00:21:01] bigger product or upgrade is the sourcing tool which from at least one insider that I talked to

[00:21:10] at Indeed, they're really focused on the sourcing stuff. Like they're really

[00:21:15] batting down the hatches, all hands on deck kind of thing. Like that's a LinkedIn thing. They want to

[00:21:21] take away recruiter seats. And that's exactly a LinkedIn thing. So we've talked about LinkedIn

[00:21:27] effectively crushing every other third party solution that uses its data, the seekouts of

[00:21:34] the world, the hire tools, the hirees like so Indeed has said, look, we can't let LinkedIn

[00:21:40] just own this sourcing thing. We have a hell of a lot of resumes too. So how do we keep people in

[00:21:47] our ecosystem searching our resumes and then sourcing effectively messaging, etc to those people? So

[00:21:54] this entire move for me from Indeed is a strike at LinkedIn. I think the sourcing

[00:22:00] is really interesting. I think the job search like you said is sort of lipstick on a pig.

[00:22:05] But they've got LinkedIn in their sites clearly and I don't think this is the last

[00:22:10] strike that they're going to make on LinkedIn. Well, how you make sourcing better is better data

[00:22:17] for better matches. We already know their matching is shit. It's probably not as bad as LinkedIn's,

[00:22:22] but their matching is already shit. They need better data to be able to bump up against. Having

[00:22:27] five resumes is fucking stupid. I mean, it's like back to the future. How many pieces of

[00:22:33] shit can we throw out there for people to actually look at? I don't care. What I care is,

[00:22:39] do they meet the requirements and do they have the skills and can they perform? That's it.

[00:22:45] And then go ahead and get me right into the interview. And at that point, we can see if

[00:22:49] there's a match. That's it guys. It's that fucking simple. But what they're doing is they're playing

[00:22:55] up top at the top of the funnel and that doesn't fucking matter. None of it matters.

[00:23:00] None of it matters. So go down funnel. And again, for all the talent.coms that are out

[00:23:05] there, the ad zunas. I mean, even companies who don't even look like Indeed competitors,

[00:23:10] go down funnel, get that data because the market is all about the large language models

[00:23:15] and being able to grind that data pool, that new data that LinkedIn doesn't have,

[00:23:21] that Indeed doesn't have. Get that data so you win.

[00:23:26] I don't think Chad's impressed everybody. I don't think Chad is

[00:23:30] impressed. Impressed at all. Let's get to LinkedIn's news and see if that impresses you.

[00:23:36] LinkedIn is testing TikTok style video options, aiming to help users discover timely videos.

[00:23:43] The feature will appear next to the home button and resembles TikTok and Instagram Reels.

[00:23:50] LinkedIn plans to provide more information about the new service very soon. So Chad,

[00:23:55] are you ready to karaoke and dance to LinkedIn's TikTok competitor?

[00:24:00] They had a version of Instagram Reels at one time and then they just trashed that.

[00:24:05] Why are they doing this? I mean, is TikTok stealing stickiness from them? Do they see that TikTok

[00:24:11] has stickiness that they want? And we talked about last week, it feels like Indeed is going

[00:24:17] more toward trying to be sticky for advertising dollars, right? To be able to keep people

[00:24:23] on platform to be able to get those advertising dollars. And one of the things that we also talked

[00:24:29] about was that LinkedIn doesn't stick with some of these big projects that they put in place.

[00:24:36] They need to hire someone with discipline focused and damned patience for God's sake.

[00:24:42] Some of the ideas actually do make sense if they're implemented well, but right now I put

[00:24:48] our videos on TikTok and then I put the same ones on LinkedIn already. So what's, I mean,

[00:24:54] I don't understand how this is going to change behavior at all.

[00:24:57] So a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned that I thought LinkedIn bailed on video too soon.

[00:25:03] They've already tried, like you said, Reels. I would have called them sort of Snapchat stories

[00:25:09] that they quickly got rid of. And I feel like with our video experience, our shorts,

[00:25:15] and you're seeing more and more shorts because every podcasting platform will create shorts for

[00:25:20] you. So we're going to see more of that in every industry. And bailing on that was a bad idea

[00:25:26] because you could have seen where the world was going and bailing on it was the wrong decision.

[00:25:31] It looks like now they're going to basically relaunch some sort of video short system.

[00:25:37] They'll probably have it more in the main feed. They won't just have it as circles at

[00:25:41] the top that are kind of out of the main feed area. It'll increase engagement, it'll increase

[00:25:46] sort of interest in advertising agencies love these videos. Small companies can make these

[00:25:52] videos really quickly. AI is going to make a lot more videos, some of these shorts.

[00:25:57] So I think it's a good move. They never should have got out of it, in my opinion.

[00:26:01] Now the second thing they need to do is the live video stuff because they're awful at it

[00:26:06] and they should be really good at it. By all accounts, you have to use a third party

[00:26:11] to even stream on LinkedIn. They should have their own thing. And by the way, X which I know you love

[00:26:16] is getting better at sort of the live video, live conversations. And that is going to be

[00:26:22] something that LinkedIn needs to do well. So this is the first step into video. They need

[00:26:27] to work out like having webinars and podcasts like this live, live streamed on LinkedIn. And

[00:26:32] I think they've got something that's pretty interesting. Otherwise, let's hope they don't

[00:26:36] bail on this like they did the stories that they had six months to a year ago.

[00:26:40] Yeah. Well, I see once again on the advertising side of the house, this gives

[00:26:45] another vehicle to be able to do ads. Right? So not just for us to be able to do podcast

[00:26:51] snippets or shorts or what have you, but this is going to allow ads. Those guacamole ads

[00:26:58] that we saw that were static guacamole ads, we're going to get a commercial on LinkedIn. So

[00:27:06] I really see this turning into more of an advertising platform and literally pivoting

[00:27:12] in some respects away from the recruitment space because there's a hell of a lot more money

[00:27:16] in advertising if they can hold on to those recruiter seats, right? Which,

[00:27:21] you know, we all know HR is really fucking slow to move in the first place, but then

[00:27:25] also go after that very quick hit of, you know, the marketing side of the house.

[00:27:30] Then, you know, that does make sense. We'll see if it works though.

[00:27:33] Look, historically, LinkedIn sucks at advertising. I mean, they still have those little like box ads

[00:27:39] on the rights like, come on. So yeah, like getting something video, something interactive,

[00:27:44] every agency will say, let's give LinkedIn another look where we haven't done anything

[00:27:48] on there in a long time. Take that Twitter money, that Twitter. We've seen reports where

[00:27:54] they have actually taken Twitter money. And I say they, those are companies who used to spend money

[00:27:59] on Twitter and they want to spend it on platforms like LinkedIn. LinkedIn wants to give them the

[00:28:05] opportunity so that they can get that fucking Twitter cash. Yep. And integrating into advertising

[00:28:11] platforms. Look, companies are going to want to make a single TikTok ad. And how do I put it

[00:28:15] on Twitter? How do I put it on LinkedIn? So like they want to be able to shotgun it

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[00:29:31] All right, Chad. It's buy or sell. You know how we play the game. We listen to three companies

[00:29:39] that have recently gotten money and we read a summary and then we either buy or sell

[00:29:46] the company. And for whatever reason, I can't find my boxer. Oh, there it is. Okay.

[00:29:53] There it is. All right. There it is. Now I'm in the mood to play some buy or sell. All right,

[00:29:57] number one, we got London-based MetaView, one of your faves from a recent firing squad.

[00:30:03] They're an AI assistant for streamlining hiring processes. They've raised $7 million

[00:30:08] in funding. The funds will accelerate product development and the team growth.

[00:30:12] They say they're already saving teams at least 20 hours per hire. Chad, you weren't much of a fan,

[00:30:19] like I said, but they're giving you 7 million new reasons why you should change your mind.

[00:30:25] Buy or sell MetaView. Yeah, it's funny because we spoke with Jason Corcello earlier this week

[00:30:31] from Acadian Ventures and he was talking about on the seed side, there's a lot of...

[00:30:38] It's hot. There's a lot of money that's going to be spent on the seed side because people want

[00:30:43] to spend that money. You said it last week, just on the IPO side, right? So people want to spend

[00:30:47] money. But in a world of generative AI, platforms like Google, Microsoft, Anthropoc, Mistral and Meta

[00:30:54] are going to win unless you have the secret sauce. And that secret sauce is years of data,

[00:31:02] like for example, ATS and CRM companies. Behavioral data. MetaView is way too late to the party. The

[00:31:09] beer's gone. All the hot chicks are passed out. The one thing MetaView has going for them is a great

[00:31:16] CEO and that's not enough for me. It's still... Even with those 7 million reasons, it's still

[00:31:23] a sell for me. All right, Chad. Interview intelligence is hot. I don't know if you've

[00:31:31] heard it. I hang out with a lot of kids that are talking about interview intelligence a lot.

[00:31:35] Now, I think some solutions that have been around a while, Bright Hire, Full Disclosure,

[00:31:40] I'm an advisor, Honit have evolved this thing a lot longer and they go further along than

[00:31:47] MetaView is. But it's a wave that is going to get a lot of attention and funding and it's

[00:31:55] going to be an acquisition target for somebody in the next two to three years. So if the mission is

[00:32:02] sell this thing at 7 million, could they sell it for 50? I guess. We'll see Bright Hire probably go

[00:32:08] off first. Honit's been around a while. Nick must just love running that business and not selling

[00:32:14] it. But for me, like I think it's a buy. I think it's a wave that is easy to surf even

[00:32:19] though the surfer in this case is maybe not the best surfer in the world. But for me,

[00:32:24] yeah, I got a I got a I got to buy it. I got to buy it. All right.

[00:32:31] That is met. Next up we have modal, modal learning a startup founded by 2x Udemy executives has

[00:32:39] secured 25 million in series A funding which brings their total to $32 million.

[00:32:45] Modal offers a platform focused on enhancing employees technical skills with courses

[00:32:50] on generative AI data management and analytics among others Chad by or sell modal.

[00:32:57] I can't stop myself. I've got a bye bye bye. And let me tell you why

[00:33:02] all companies are tech companies. We just had a great conversation with Mark Chaffee CEO over

[00:33:07] Hackajob earlier this week and he said that Walmart is pretty much absorbing

[00:33:11] tech talent that you know guys like your buddy Zuck are cutting and those tech people

[00:33:18] will need to keep their skills up to date they will need to advance those skills because they need

[00:33:23] to stay with the velocity of today's tech plus there are all those other non-tech technical

[00:33:30] skills that all employees will have to get trained on last but never the least you mentioned it

[00:33:37] Shimkus and Yang ex Udemy president and CEO are founders. This is too easy. This is exactly

[00:33:45] in the warehouse. They've sold something like this before bye bye bye.

[00:33:51] All right Chad is a bye on modal. Yeah look interview intelligence is hot upscaling is even

[00:33:59] hotter there's going to be a lot of money flowing into this companies want to grow their own

[00:34:04] they're tired of spending money on recruiting and recruiters and agencies like why can't we just

[00:34:11] educate our own folks and get them further up the the corporate ladder. Look this is an idea

[00:34:18] that's proven you've got gusto glow linkedin learning degreed Coursera like it's a proven model

[00:34:26] the only the only rest of these guys is they just get crushed by whoever becomes coke and

[00:34:31] Pepsi of the upskilling world and they just become a consolidation play yeah I think there's

[00:34:36] going to be a lot of room for companies they do have a pricing model that is sort of unique

[00:34:43] they only charge companies when employees successfully complete a course so there's a

[00:34:49] little bit of like there's no risk you're only going to pay when someone completes a course

[00:34:53] which is going to be very favorable to a lot of a lot of companies so yeah for me as well like this

[00:34:59] is this is a winner this is a winner all right our last company you're going to love these guys

[00:35:07] home from college that's right the name of the company is home from college a Los Angeles based

[00:35:13] career platform they've raised 5.4 million dollars in seed funding the platform caters to

[00:35:20] you guessed it gen z offering park time and full-time roles and serves clients like poppy

[00:35:26] aquifer and Steve Madden nothing says cool like a pair of Steve Madden's everybody with the cash

[00:35:33] home for college plans to expand the team and add more products for job seekers Chad buy or sell

[00:35:40] home for college wow man 5.4 million in seed that that's a lot of cash but the problem is

[00:35:50] college is transient you're in college until you're not and then you stop using your old

[00:35:56] college job systems then you moved on then you move on to LinkedIn indeed hack a job or wherever

[00:36:03] the people in your industry gravitate so that being said you need to either partner closely with

[00:36:09] colleges and universities or spend shit tons of cash on marketing month after month after month

[00:36:15] to maintain market penetration I personally have experience in building these types of

[00:36:21] college recruiting systems nightmares working directly with colleges universities career center

[00:36:26] directors and employers who have teams that are focused on hiring from the university and I promised

[00:36:32] myself I would never fucking do that again this is a sell very easily there enough all right

[00:36:40] I'll make it quick because we got a lot of show left to go I hate the name

[00:36:44] I hate the college I hate the college environment you're right like every few years there's a new

[00:36:49] player handshake go back the last time we heard from them yeah like monster track or whatever the

[00:36:54] fuck that like that's it's just bad business I hate targeting like generationally it just

[00:37:02] it's kind of silly to me look there's already a resume builder out there it's called LinkedIn

[00:37:07] and it already has all the people who are going to hire you on it so don't mess around with some

[00:37:13] work or home from college site to build your resume go to LinkedIn and build your resume there and keep

[00:37:21] it updated and and connect with people like it's such a much better product do you remember visual

[00:37:26] cv from back in the day oh yeah I mean this thing has been tried and tried again so for this like

[00:37:33] yeah you can guess I'm a big sell on home from college at least it's a dot com so you can

[00:37:40] remember that it's right kids get grandpa says get your profile on LinkedIn that's right all right let's

[00:37:46] talk a little food shall we little fast food a little quick serve action first up we have a

[00:37:54] waffle house the union of southern service workers has filed a petition against waffle house

[00:38:00] alleging the chain deducts mandatory meal costs from workers paychecks even if the meals aren't

[00:38:07] eaten workers are charged at least three dollars per on shift meal impacting those on a tipped

[00:38:13] sub minimum wage chat your thoughts and what's your go-to meal at waffle house because I know there's

[00:38:19] about 10 yeah there's a there's splattered and scattered and splattered and all that other fun

[00:38:24] stuff um this is from the waffle house employee manual quote meals must be consumed at the

[00:38:31] restaurant and no food can be taken home under the meal policy any food actually taken home

[00:38:37] by such an associate will be considered a to-go order and must be paid full price end quotes

[00:38:45] number one any company that says that stupid shit right out of the gate it's like fuck off but then

[00:38:51] the union of southern services workers called it especially alarming since as you said these

[00:38:58] workers make a sub minimum wage what is a sub minimum wage kids it's two dollars and 90 cents

[00:39:06] an hour yes europe yes europe you think you get fucked sometimes two dollars and 90 cents an hour

[00:39:12] plus tips but it's a waffle house we're talking tips at a waffle house this is not this is not uh

[00:39:20] upscale okay no one's ordering 200 dollars worth of food no waffle house no this to me is

[00:39:27] just fucking ridiculous um where the the center of gravity for where these waffle houses are georgia

[00:39:34] has 381 south carolina 144 north carolina 142 florida 133 and alabama 128 it's in the south

[00:39:44] it's in the south the impoverished if you take a look at where most poverty is in the us

[00:39:50] it's in the south and waffle house you're not helping you're not helping doesn't anyone notice

[00:39:56] i feel like i'm taking crazy these numbers right here so waffle house is a four billion dollar

[00:40:02] a year company it's a profit a guy a guy named joe rogers jr. is worth 1.7 billion dollars

[00:40:13] if this is true waffle house earns the douche bag company of the year award because chad's right these

[00:40:21] if you haven't been to waffle house you're missing out kids uh it is it is it's good people

[00:40:28] yes a lot of times this is the only company will hire them uh i've never had a bad experience

[00:40:34] from an employee at waffle house well okay it's usually at 2 in the morning the right answer is the

[00:40:40] the biscuits and gravy by the way in terms of best thing at at waffle house but yeah look if

[00:40:45] it's true waffle house didn't come out and say this is not true they didn't say uh this is why or we make

[00:40:51] it up so like so by all accounts this is true waffle house hasn't come and they have a pr department

[00:40:56] i'm sure yeah so uh so yeah uh this is bullshit i hope the union gets what they deserve i hope this

[00:41:04] practice stops because inevitably it's wage theft oh yeah at at worst and maybe at best it's

[00:41:09] corporate greed uh but it's a practice that's really stupid to stop it's both let's be honest

[00:41:16] making making a pile of pancakes at waffle house probably costs them 30 cents right and and to like

[00:41:24] three bucks i just it's just i don't it's just really it's really bad it's really bad god damn it

[00:41:30] waffle house i gotta go to i hop now let's go to the other side of the pendulum let's talk about

[00:41:34] california yeah i gotta go to cracker barrel now god damn it all right in california about half a

[00:41:41] million fast food workers are now making at least 20 dollars per hour thanks to a new law that raises

[00:41:46] wages for restaurant change with more than 60 nationwide locations the law also establishes

[00:41:52] a fast food council of first in the u.s to annually adjust wages in line with inflation

[00:41:58] or up to 3.5 percent and to address worker safety and other issues owners of some fast food

[00:42:05] franchise locations have already increased prices or cut worker hours in response to the higher

[00:42:11] wages chad does this drive you to californication or is it just a little california dreamin yeah so

[00:42:20] over the years we've been told a bunch of lies a lot of myths if we pay these people living

[00:42:25] wages we're gonna have to go out of business we're going to have to raise the food rates etc etc etc

[00:42:32] well in november of 2013 yes over 10 years ago c-tech passed prop one which authorized a 15

[00:42:40] dollar minimum wage policy which was phased in over several years the policy went into

[00:42:44] effect in january of 2014 six months later the larger seattle city council expanded a similar

[00:42:53] 15 dollar minimum wage policy to nearly 20 000 workers so this is a great model to look at

[00:43:00] as as we look at predicting outcomes uh because this took place more than 10 years ago did that kill

[00:43:06] restaurants no since 2015 the number of restaurants is actually up in seattle five percent that's

[00:43:13] over 3200 restaurants annual sales increased by 20 percent seattle's job growth have outpaced

[00:43:22] the rest of the washington state so now let's go back to cali cali cali the new cali cali 20

[00:43:31] dollar per hour minimum wage the last time california raised the minimum wage to 16

[00:43:37] dollars guess what happened profits went up what where do you think these people buy food when you

[00:43:44] put money in people's pockets they fucking spend it right they can buy more so owners should

[00:43:50] stop balling up in the fetal position and start researching these models many seattle restaurants

[00:43:56] are experiencing much lower turnover and higher profits because of this this is not the shit that

[00:44:03] milton freeman talked about he had fear in oh you're gonna lose people and all the money has to

[00:44:09] go to the top fuck off milton i hope you're turning over in your goddamn grave right now

[00:44:13] because you were wrong we need to pay the people he's he's with jack welch and not very happy

[00:44:18] about your words coming out of your mouth okay there are a couple things i don't like about this

[00:44:23] i don't like that there's a rule that if you serve just bread alone you're immune you're like immune

[00:44:28] to this weird means panera which means panera bread gets gets gets a pass from this and apparently

[00:44:35] nuisance in the panera so there's some politics here that i don't i don't like particularly

[00:44:41] but everything else you should like look you have to have 60 plus locations so that means it's

[00:44:46] not killing the mom and pop barbecue you know down the street it's not killing you know the takarito

[00:44:54] takaria um you know favorite downtown whatever stops you so these are mainly big companies

[00:44:59] with a lot of money a lot of resources and so the fear of margaret was the prices are gonna go

[00:45:04] gargoyle go insane you're not gonna be able to afford it so we have our first indication of what

[00:45:09] price increases mean uh there was an in and out burger uh pre-april 1st and post-april 1st in terms

[00:45:17] of prices so i think i'm paying 10 cents more for a cheeseburger i'm paying like five cents more uh

[00:45:23] for for a hamburger maybe 20 cents more for a shake fries didn't go up so potatoes must be doing

[00:45:30] very well growing wise so cheap it's not like my cheeseburger went from 3.99 to 10.99 right

[00:45:37] so the price increases are negligible these folks that have a hard time making a living

[00:45:42] will now be able to do so by the way we know that when poor people get money more money they spend

[00:45:50] it they spend it on food and to gas and consumables and iPads and yeah so so most of this is going

[00:45:58] to come back into the mark like the cycle when you give rich people a lot of money they put

[00:46:04] in a bank or they you know they store it they don't just spend it yeah so giving money to people

[00:46:11] without means is usually a good thing to keep the economy right robust now what will be interesting

[00:46:17] to see so i don't think there's any armageddon i don't think there's like the route the sky is

[00:46:21] falling i think everything is gonna be fine frankly 20 should be 25 we've talked about that a few

[00:46:26] times on the show but 20 isn't like not enough is not quite enough especially in california yeah

[00:46:30] i do think they should use this as a recruiting tool to get people to move to california because of

[00:46:35] the the higher minimum wage uh get people leaving texas in florida so who's going to serve your

[00:46:40] your barbacoa bowl if they're all in california making more money i think that's interesting

[00:46:45] this is being politicized big time uh the new york post right wing entertaining publication

[00:46:51] and the last uh their headline was california fast food minimum wage law is already a disaster

[00:46:57] and new york wants some of it too so this is going to be politicized but there's no

[00:47:01] skies falling situation in california no one no one is good now will some people lose their job

[00:47:07] probably i think i think the best people will stay and maybe some of the worst will be let go

[00:47:13] there'll be some people that that are sacrificed for this prices don't blow up like i think people

[00:47:21] have been have been fearful full of i do think it will increase or accelerate the

[00:47:25] investment in robots i think that's inevitable no matter where we are people just hate employing

[00:47:30] people no matter how much they're paying them the interesting thing will be in 10 years when

[00:47:34] we're hopefully not doing the show anymore but what do fast food places look like is it like a

[00:47:38] really small group of professionals that make really good salaries and they're managing

[00:47:42] the robots and the customer service like restaurants will probably look much different than they

[00:47:47] they do today probably whether we're doing the show to talk about it i don't know but

[00:47:51] this is a good thing people this is a good thing yeah i'll be on the beach in portugal

[00:47:56] where we don't have fast food so i won't give a fuck no matter what

[00:48:03] listening to kibu yeah i do enjoy the occasional burger king when i'm in europe though and five

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[00:49:05] acquisition today all right chat amazon is removing just walk out technology from its amazon

[00:49:12] fresh stores and replacing them with smart carts that allow customers to skip the checkout line

[00:49:18] but see their spending in real time the change comes after customer feedback and as part of a

[00:49:23] revamp of the grocery chain just walk out technology is will be available in amazon ghost

[00:49:30] stores in some smaller amazon fresh stores in the uk as well as two third party retailers

[00:49:36] but by all accounts this program is on the ropes chat your thoughts on amazon's latest move

[00:49:42] yeah i think the the smart carts are incredibly smart i just hope it's not like enemy of the

[00:49:48] state where they have you know cameras all over the place watching and i mean that's just that

[00:49:54] gets it's a little bit too dystopian for me but yeah i mean to be able to see innovation come to

[00:50:01] grocery shopping the only thing that we've seen in innovation for grocery shopping i mean obviously

[00:50:07] back the back office stuff and then also inventory those types of things that makes a lot of sense

[00:50:13] but you know the the the self-checkouts which they're going to be scaling back on so will this

[00:50:19] be the replacement for a self-checkout possibly in the future i don't know but it'll be it'll

[00:50:25] be interesting to watch that's for damn sure yeah clearly self-serve uh is in flux yeah the the the

[00:50:34] panacea of like let people check themselves out no cashiers uh or just walk out the door

[00:50:40] is not really built for human beings uh human beings are like just stand and stand at your

[00:50:47] local self-serve checkout area when you have some spare time people are like they don't scan it

[00:50:54] right uh they take it off the way thing and they're gonna start over yeah like it's six people checking

[00:51:00] out there's one person that has to handle six people yeah two of them don't know what the hell

[00:51:04] they're doing uh the third is like needs needs age verification because they're buying alcohol

[00:51:11] like you end up being in this infinite loop of waiting for the person to check you out oh yeah

[00:51:17] and waiting for them and then people like it's people just aren't meant for self-service and so

[00:51:24] you see dollar store target walmart or like we're phasing some of this out and i think i think this

[00:51:32] has been an experiment by amazon that probably hasn't gone the way that they hoped look amazon

[00:51:37] did a lot of crazy stuff when basos was at the helm whether it was like uh whole foods mgm studios

[00:51:45] why i guess they're getting into medium or the fire phone uh remember uh nobody bought

[00:51:53] and they fortunately under under jesse they focused on three things that are really successful for them

[00:52:01] e-commerce aws and advertising people don't understand amazon is like the third largest

[00:52:08] advertising platform out there those are really good profitable businesses that aren't a pain in

[00:52:14] the ass so like this whole whole foods checkout thing has got to be a pain in the ass that they

[00:52:20] don't want to deal with yeah but they have to because they spent how many billions on whole foods they

[00:52:24] have to think about this i don't know if this will work i'm not hopeful for humanity to get

[00:52:31] get a i'm going to take a cart and it's gonna it's going to track what i put in the cart

[00:52:35] and then i can just walk out like wouldn't i put my credit card like you've seen videos of

[00:52:39] the just walk out where people are like what do i do like just walk out just walk out i think there's a

[00:52:44] there's a comment about some black people they're like wait no no no i'm not just walking out where

[00:52:49] do i favor this yeah no shit right no i'm not falling for this historically i'm not walking

[00:52:53] out with shit right yeah i'm not doing that where's the camera i'm getting pumped here so yeah i'm

[00:52:59] like so i think i think amazon needs to focus on what they do well uh get rid of these hubris

[00:53:05] inducing uh side projects and get back to basics but uh they're not the only big company having a

[00:53:12] little bit of an image image problem or you know what the hell they're going to be when they

[00:53:17] grow up problem apple the largest company on the planet is exploring the development of a mobile

[00:53:23] robot that can follow users around their homes and a robotic smart display for homes

[00:53:29] but it is still in the early stages and not yet committed to releasing these products the

[00:53:33] company has been under pressure to find new sources of revenue and sees robotics as a potential

[00:53:39] opportunity to expand its presence in the home market the focus on ai and machine learning

[00:53:44] is part of apple's strategy for future growth but the company has yet not committed to either

[00:53:50] project chad are you ready for apple robots following you around in your house and more than

[00:53:57] that are your dogs ready for a robot to follow you around in your house yeah the the only

[00:54:03] thing i could think of is the jetsons and rosy they're their robot that followed them around uh

[00:54:10] i thought that was really cool now i have my own place my own dogs and yeah i don't need that i've

[00:54:15] got robots that uh you know vacuum my carpet and can possibly mark you know mop my floor but i

[00:54:22] don't need any of that other shit i i'm sometimes i want to unplug my google home just because the

[00:54:28] fucker listens to me all the time so i think yeah this is this is literally a bridge too far

[00:54:35] for me at least uh i just i'm just not sure how long it's going to take for society

[00:54:42] to start well first and foremost the the cost right so the cost uh is going to be is going to

[00:54:48] be a factor but will society be comfortable with having something like that in the house

[00:54:55] all the time i don't know i just know that i won't can i have sex with the robot and does it look like

[00:55:03] jennifer aniston is the question i guess that i have for this thing obviously it's not with

[00:55:07] their only fans um look part part of me feels bad for these big companies that have to make these

[00:55:14] huge swings uh they can't just dabble in stuff and apple is post steve jobs really it's it's

[00:55:21] like air pods and technically the watch that have been successful which are really extensions of the

[00:55:27] iphone look they've they've dabbled in tv's they're rumored to get into that uh they were rumored to

[00:55:34] have cars that not happening apple home was a thing carplay should be a thing um they just can't

[00:55:42] get it right nope and this ain't it look vision the vision pros dead on arrival uh i i haven't

[00:55:50] heard anything about them since they launched i wear glasses chat and my latest pair is the meta

[00:55:56] ray band um glasses which are great because you don't really know they're smart glasses

[00:56:01] i can i can listen to music or my or podcasts as my wife yells at me about how i didn't

[00:56:08] mow the yard right i'm just listening that i can take pictures and video like

[00:56:12] that's the kind of thing apple needs to develop they need to buy warby parker or partner with

[00:56:19] prada or dolce gabbana and create like smart glasses that are like that that are cool you

[00:56:24] don't really know they're there these big swings are are messing uh messing them up i guess is a

[00:56:30] final thought maybe amazon and apple could partner and create a penis rocket that can follow me

[00:56:39] around my house that my friends sounds like a home run and with that

[00:56:45] we out wow look at you you made it through an entire episode of the challenge's podcast

[00:56:55] or maybe you cheated and fast forwarded to the end either way there's no doubt you wish

[00:57:01] you had that time back a valuable time you could have used to buy a nutritious meal at taco bell

[00:57:08] enjoy a pour of your favorite whiskey or just watch big booty latinas and bug fights on tick

[00:57:15] tock no you hung out with these two chuggle heads and stand now go take a shower and wash off all

[00:57:24] the guilt but save some soap because you'll be back like an awful trainwreck you can't look

[00:57:31] away and like chad's favorite western you can't quit them either we out

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