Our guest in this episode is Sanjeev Kaliwala, founder of the Natural Lifestyle Hub where he helps Corporate Professionals to become fitter and healthier within their busy schedule.
He shares his incredible story of grit and determination in this episode.
You can get connected to Sanjeev on his Facebook and Instagram
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Speaker 1: The Mascara and welcome to the School of Men on
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Speaker 1: the Stronger Men Project podcast. I'm your host, a desai,
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Speaker 1: a mechanical engineer turned fitness coach and a gym owner.
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Speaker 1: In the regular episodes of Stronger Men Project. I share
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Speaker 1: my knowledge and expertise to help you lose excess body fat,
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Speaker 1: build muscle and strength and become the fittest and the
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Speaker 1: best looking version of yourself.
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Speaker 1: However, this episode is a part of the School of
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Speaker 1: Men segment, which is a biweekly talk show of the
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Speaker 1: men and for the men where I bring experts achievers
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Speaker 1: and people who have inspiring stories to share and interview
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Speaker 1: them on your behalf, to
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Speaker 1: share their expertise and experience and draw lessons for you
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Speaker 1: and me to learn, grow and excel across different areas
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Speaker 1: of our life and emerge as stronger men overall. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for tuning in today and let's get started with
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Speaker 1: the guest of this episode. Welcome to another episode of
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Speaker 1: the School of Men. And today in this episode, I
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Speaker 1: have one more inspiring personality with me. And uh this
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Speaker 1: is someone, uh, if you're watching on youtube or some
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Speaker 1: other video platform,
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Speaker 1: then uh you can see the calm confidence he is radiating.
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Speaker 1: And uh if you're listening this on a podcast, then
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Speaker 1: you can experience the energy in his voice.
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Speaker 1: And I'm very happy to um bring on my friend
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Speaker 1: Sanjiv Khalila on the show and uh I let him
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Speaker 1: introduce about himself and what he does. Sanjiv, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for agreeing to come on the show. And
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Speaker 1: uh I'm very happy that you are here.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. So, first of all, I want
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Speaker 2: to thank others and uh hi to everyone. So myself,
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Speaker 2: Sanjiv Khalila and uh thanks again others for giving this opportunity.
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Speaker 2: And it's my honor to be on your platform to
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Speaker 2: speak a little bit, little bit about me. And uh
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Speaker 2: he saw something inspiring in me. So I like really
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Speaker 2: happy for that.
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Speaker 2: So right now, like uh at present, I, I'm a
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Speaker 2: founder of uh internet, natural Lifestyle Hub. So I'm part
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Speaker 2: of uh international lifestyle hub. And after getting in this community,
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Speaker 2: I thought of forming my own community where I can
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Speaker 2: nurture my clients, not, I can uh like serve my
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Speaker 2: client and uh show them the path of uh natural,
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Speaker 2: like how to use all natural techniques to transform themselves from,
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Speaker 2: you know, obese or, or weight to a fit guide.
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Speaker 2: So I'm fonder of, as I said, the natural natural
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Speaker 2: lifestyle hub. So right now, like I'm initial like
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Speaker 2: initial stage of this community. So expecting, hoping for life
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Speaker 2: to grow bigger with our mentors.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Sanjay. The pleasure is mine that you are here.
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Speaker 1: And um, yeah, I would uh I would uh want
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Speaker 1: you to talk a little more about what you're doing
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Speaker 1: in uh natural lifestyle hub. And uh what do you
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Speaker 1: offer there? And what can people expect uh, when they
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Speaker 1: get into your community?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the others like uh as a,
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Speaker 2: the community name, like uh uh shows its natural lifestyle.
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Speaker 2: So whatever I am doing here, it's like completely natural.
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Speaker 2: So I offer a healthy and
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Speaker 2: fitness, like health and improving the health and fitness, achieving
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Speaker 2: their longevity to my clients by using all natural techniques.
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Speaker 2: So as my background is from natural bodybuilding, so how
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Speaker 2: I use the techniques on myself, like how I became
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Speaker 2: from an obese guy to a bodybuilder to a certified
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Speaker 2: coach and how I started teaching other people. What I
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Speaker 2: know how I, how I started helping people to achieve
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Speaker 2: their good health fitness. And uh
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Speaker 2: as I said to the longevity. So I know it's
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Speaker 2: I thought of of uh coming to online platform to
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Speaker 2: reach more and more people, to serve, to give my
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Speaker 2: service to more people. Because uh in offline mode, I
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Speaker 2: was like uh illustrated to a few people. So meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: I got a chance to get in the natural internet,
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Speaker 2: the internet lifestyle hub with us. That's why I thought
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Speaker 2: of like
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Speaker 2: forming my own community where I can uh provide, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I can serve where I can serve my clients by
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Speaker 2: the uh knowledge I have what I have, what I
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Speaker 2: gained through this, like, uh for these two decades in this,
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Speaker 2: not only in bodybuilding, even for a common health, like,
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Speaker 2: how can they improve their health? How can they achieve
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Speaker 2: their fitness? How can they live a healthy lifestyle?
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Speaker 2: So that is the thing I'm doing is like, I'm
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Speaker 2: serving people, I'm sharing the knowledge why, what I have
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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to help people to overcome from the,
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Speaker 2: from the fitness uh challenges and to make their lives
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Speaker 2: a little bit happier.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Uh we both are on the, in the, in the
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Speaker 1: same kind of main uh but you have um you know,
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Speaker 1: much more
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Speaker 1: longer experience than me. Why don't you let our listeners
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Speaker 1: know what you've been doing in the last two decades.
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Speaker 2: It's long journey, others. So thanks for asking that. So
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Speaker 2: it's so many ups and downs. So I never thought
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Speaker 2: like I will be a bodybuilder or I will be
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Speaker 2: uh coach if it does coach in my life. So
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Speaker 2: because I was born as a normal child to my parents,
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Speaker 2: but in the age of I, I guess I'm not
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Speaker 2: wrong 8 to 10 in the year of 1992 I,
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Speaker 2: I guess so I was suddenly one night I got,
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Speaker 2: I affected with polio
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Speaker 2: and uh when the, when the next day I woke up,
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Speaker 2: I was uh paralyzed the my, my uh half one
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Speaker 2: body was paralyzed in this initial stage. But slowly, slowly
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Speaker 2: thanks to God, only my legs will get, got affected
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Speaker 2: and my upper body became all. So actual journey started
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Speaker 2: from there. OK. So
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Speaker 2: after that, I started gaining weight, I became obese. So
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Speaker 2: so many things happened in my life, uh disability on
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Speaker 2: that heavy weight. So I was completely on bed for
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Speaker 2: 23 years after that. Also, I was unable to walk
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Speaker 2: without the help of crutches. So this thing like, uh
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Speaker 2: you can say like, uh for my life was uh
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Speaker 2: it crashed or like that. So,
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Speaker 2: so in that uh period, like, uh since childhood, there
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Speaker 2: was little attraction towards the body building others. So I
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Speaker 2: can say like when I was a kid, when I
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Speaker 2: used to go to school that time, I used to
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Speaker 2: do push ups. I don't know, it's in my bloodline,
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Speaker 2: I guess my uh
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Speaker 2: my mother's side, my mother's uh uh brothers and they
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Speaker 2: were like in workouts in that time. So I guess
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Speaker 2: that thing came in me. So that thing was there,
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Speaker 2: attraction was there. But I never thought I would, I
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Speaker 2: will be in this field like completely. So after like
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Speaker 2: becoming obese or something, when I started like focusing on
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Speaker 2: my fitness because my life was ruined. My,
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Speaker 2: my education was gone. My personal life was ruined. So
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Speaker 2: everything got in on zero. Like I was completely lost
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Speaker 2: type of guy. So I was trying to bring myself
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Speaker 2: back to normal life to become a normal person. It
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Speaker 2: was very tough. I worked a lot on my mindset also.
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Speaker 2: I like I was telling myself nothing like it happens.
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Speaker 2: Let's the face challenges. Let's take the challenges and opportunities.
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Speaker 2: Then I started my fitness. So, so in that fitness. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: as I said,
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Speaker 1: age, when did you start? Which age
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Speaker 2: I can say it's like 1718 years of age, I
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Speaker 2: already like I was. So you,
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Speaker 1: you spend like 7 to 8 years in the, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of rock bottom kind of situation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was very tough for me, like even
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Speaker 2: climbing a small step.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I can say Sanji, I told you
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Speaker 1: of the, of the camera also that um
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Speaker 1: it is very difficult to make out that you have
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Speaker 1: a disability because most of the videos I can see
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Speaker 1: you see on the top of your body. Uh It's
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Speaker 1: amazing to see like even having a disability and uh
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Speaker 1: you know, um like I said, you were
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Speaker 1: uh you radiate that kind of confidence when it comes
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Speaker 1: when you go through hardship and you know, overcome the
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Speaker 1: hardship and achieve great things in your life. Uh And
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Speaker 1: uh yeah, uh that is what has inspired me to
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Speaker 1: uh you know, get connected with you than you before
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Speaker 1: we talk what achievements you have done. Let's talk about
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Speaker 1: that phase of um
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Speaker 1: uh your disability because see what happens is a lot
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Speaker 1: of people see this is very rare, like having a
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Speaker 1: disability is very rare in the humanity itself. If you
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Speaker 1: consider there are very few people who are disabled. Ok?
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Speaker 1: And uh it is one thing to uh see someone
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Speaker 1: who is disabled and sympathize. And uh
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Speaker 1: there are some cases where uh uh disabled people are
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Speaker 1: also made fun of, ok, like uh if you like,
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Speaker 1: people call a person who is limping Lra or something,
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Speaker 1: which is,
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Speaker 1: which is very light way of taking it. And uh
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Speaker 1: I know for sure it is not that light when
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Speaker 1: facing the situation, right? Sanju? And that too at a
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Speaker 1: tender age of eight or nine years. So what hap
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Speaker 1: what was your immediate reaction to that? And what were
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Speaker 1: you feeling at that time?
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Speaker 1: Because why I'm asking is because uh I want people
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Speaker 1: to not sympathize but empathize to really know what the
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Speaker 1: person has to go through when someone has a disability.
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Speaker 2: So this question is really very close to my heart.
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Speaker 2: Uh There's still no, no one ask, ask this thing.
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Speaker 2: So everyone was asking about my fitness. Yeah, really? I
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Speaker 2: thank thanks for you. Thanks to you for asking this.
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Speaker 2: So it, it reminds me it's like taking me to the,
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Speaker 2: the complete, the whole picture is in front of my eye.
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Speaker 2: So when I was a child, when I was like,
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Speaker 2: like affected with this polio,
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Speaker 2: I was very sensitive uh regarding this word. So if
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Speaker 2: anybody would, would uh called me like Langlo or something,
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Speaker 2: I used to cry all of the sudden. So that
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Speaker 2: that kind of mentality was mine. Like I was very sensitive.
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Speaker 2: So my mom was like very support to others. So
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Speaker 2: if anybody would have called me Lra, she used to
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Speaker 2: directly fight with them. I still remember she fought so
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Speaker 2: many times for me
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Speaker 2: in front of me. So because it was like a
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Speaker 2: hurting kind of word for me whenever I mean anybody
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Speaker 2: uh says that word or anybody, it happened with me also,
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Speaker 2: as you said, people will like make a joke. If
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Speaker 2: somebody has some problem, it will be a funny, funny
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Speaker 2: for them. It is uh like uh
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Speaker 2: thing to make fun out of that guy. So many
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Speaker 2: people did with me also. So they used to call unwantedly.
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Speaker 2: They used to call a because they know like I
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Speaker 2: will feel and I will start crying. So people used
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Speaker 2: to do like that. So that time my parents like
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Speaker 2: really my gratitude for them, my mother especially she was
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Speaker 2: very supportive, very like uh always she was used to
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Speaker 2: be behind me and my family decided they were, they
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Speaker 2: will not use this word for me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, even my father. Yeah. So this thing was very
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Speaker 2: close to me. And uh whenever I go out for,
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Speaker 2: whenever I used to go for shopping, that time. Also,
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Speaker 2: people used to make uh like fun out of me.
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Speaker 2: So this thing was there even I faced the others.
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Speaker 2: So it was very tough time even like even with
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Speaker 2: it's like years pass. But still I smell fresh till
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Speaker 2: now that whole picture will be in front of me
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Speaker 2: whenever I think that
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Speaker 2: so but I guess those things like whatever happened that
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Speaker 2: time
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Speaker 2: help me to like uh face the challenge helped me
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Speaker 2: to become stronger and stronger day by day. So after
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Speaker 2: few years, after a few years, it became like uh
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Speaker 2: first time I was so much sensitive like uh whenever
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Speaker 2: uh as I said, whenever I hear that word, I
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Speaker 2: used to start crying as those things. But after
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Speaker 2: slowly, slowly, my brain like uh the whole thing changed
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Speaker 2: after so after some days, like if anybody used to
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Speaker 2: say that thing also, I was like, OK, there, there
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Speaker 2: are people is their mouth, let them say it's uh
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Speaker 2: it's up to me. Should I take or not? I
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Speaker 2: came in, I came in that situation.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, so
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Speaker 1: initially, um
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Speaker 1: if I'm guessing it, right? You were hurt and upset
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Speaker 1: by me, right? And then a few years passed and
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Speaker 1: uh and then you became um you got used to
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Speaker 1: it like you accepted it. This is what
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Speaker 2: happened.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. OK. So the real joy started coming out and
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Speaker 2: I accepted myself. So before that like, yeah, it was
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Speaker 2: not accepted thing. So that's why I was hurting a lot.
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Speaker 2: So I used to sit in bathrooms for hours. So
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Speaker 2: I was thinking like, why, why for me, why, why, why?
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Speaker 2: So the more I used to think, the more I
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Speaker 2: was getting depressed. So I don't know. But in the
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Speaker 2: small age also I learned like, after accepting the things.
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Speaker 2: So it helped me to become stronger day by day
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Speaker 1: whenever there is any disability or um
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Speaker 1: there is some uh you know, um some problem with
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Speaker 1: you only when you accept it. That is when um
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Speaker 1: uh you have the power,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people struggle accepting their situation, right? And
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Speaker 1: uh and was this uh situation uh a contributor to
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Speaker 1: you becoming obese and uh how did it affect uh
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Speaker 1: you know, your performance in uh let's say studies and
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Speaker 1: other areas of life?
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Speaker 2: So it did have it played a key role. Uh
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Speaker 2: as I said, you when I was uh I, when
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Speaker 2: I was on bed, my, my mom, like as you know,
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Speaker 2: the love of mom, how they treat their kids, she
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Speaker 2: was fit in. So 12 years, I was on bed
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Speaker 2: and uh uh every doctor, every person, whoever she used
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Speaker 2: to meet, they used to give tips like uh feed
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Speaker 2: this thing for strength in his muzzle, feed this
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Speaker 2: thing, that thing fees, uh feed him, uh he feed
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Speaker 2: him uh all butter kind of things. So she started feeling,
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Speaker 2: thinking like uh if she feed more, I will be
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Speaker 2: getting stand back and I will be able to get
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Speaker 2: up and walk. So, in that, uh, uh, process when
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Speaker 2: I was on bed and, uh, she was over feeding me,
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Speaker 2: I gained like a weight, lot of weight. So after that, uh,
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Speaker 2: I tried a lot and I was slowly, I started
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Speaker 2: crawling first. Still I remember
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Speaker 2: from bed to I learned scrawling like a kid from
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Speaker 2: scrawling to again, I learned walking on my crutches, but
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Speaker 2: it was very tough walking on handling the weight on
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Speaker 2: crutches because uh this problem was there upon that. I
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Speaker 2: was obese. So it was very problematic. So it ruined
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Speaker 2: my life, everything even my education because I was in,
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Speaker 2: in such a situation. Like I was unable to climb
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Speaker 2: by 23 inches of step also.
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Speaker 2: So due to the uh due to that problem, I
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Speaker 2: never gone to college, I took all home tuitions and
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Speaker 2: I wrote private exams. So even in my school also
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Speaker 2: when uh year there were like, uh there was a
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Speaker 2: process of shipping classrooms. So first class in one classroom,
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Speaker 2: second class in class, one classroom. So thank God that time,
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Speaker 2: the school was very supportive. So whenever
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Speaker 2: our class chance used to come, whenever they used to
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Speaker 2: shift our class from first to second floor, they used
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Speaker 2: to consider me, they used to see me. No, this
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Speaker 2: guy is there, he cannot climb the stairs. Let's shift
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Speaker 2: the class down only. So I really my heart for
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Speaker 2: attitude my to my school guys also, they supported a
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Speaker 2: lot at that time. So the situation was like that.
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Speaker 2: And uh as you know, due to obese, everything will
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Speaker 2: be like down
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Speaker 2: your thinking process will be done and uh your digestive
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Speaker 2: system will also be done. This all things contributed for
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Speaker 2: my to ruin my education.
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Speaker 2: OK. And uh even my personal life because I was
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Speaker 2: so depressed. That was that, that, that, that, that those
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Speaker 2: were the years where you like uh from teenage to
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Speaker 2: when you are turning to adult, that will be the
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Speaker 2: stage where you will be facing the changes, you will
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Speaker 2: be seeing the changes mentally, physically and those things. But
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Speaker 2: this thing like uh it chased me and it ruined everything.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that time, thank God, a few things were
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Speaker 2: not affected but
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Speaker 2: lot was affected me mentally and physically.
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Speaker 1: One thing um I can uh take away from this
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Speaker 1: is that uh there will be apathy by other people.
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Speaker 1: You will have a lot of it, but there will
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Speaker 1: be people who will also support you, ok? And these
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Speaker 1: are the, these are the people who will support you
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Speaker 1: and then they'll bring you up. And when I see
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Speaker 1: any person going through tough times, um uh it is
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Speaker 1: normal human behavior that we always look at the negatives.
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Speaker 1: And of course,
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Speaker 1: uh I don't undermine your condition. It was it's really,
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Speaker 1: really uh terrifying to be in that condition for anybody.
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Speaker 1: But uh even normal people, if they are going through
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Speaker 1: some tough times, they'll always uh focus on negative
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Speaker 1: and I'm also not immune to this. I'm speaking about this.
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Speaker 1: It's easy to talk about it. But um uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is the thing. Uh we always focus on the
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Speaker 1: negatives and there is always some positive which is actually
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Speaker 1: helping us, which is supporting us to move forward, right?
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Speaker 1: And thank God you move, you move forward and uh
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Speaker 1: you are ready to, you are contributing to other people
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Speaker 1: and um you are ready to add value to the
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Speaker 1: world like uh
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Speaker 1: um like most people will not be able to do. So.
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Speaker 1: Um uh San, let's talk about uh how it changed
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Speaker 1: and what led to this transformation you had.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So as I said, I was ruined from everywhere. OK?
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Speaker 2: So my life was going like that. So even I
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Speaker 2: skipped my colleges, everything. But there was one stage where
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Speaker 2: I thought enough
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Speaker 2: need to come out of this situation. So need to
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Speaker 2: work on myself. So as I said, since childhood, that
00:18:41
Speaker 2: attraction was always there whenever any bodybuilding competition used to come,
00:18:46
Speaker 2: whenever a small bodybuilder show used to come on the
00:18:48
Speaker 2: version I used to run there and I used to
00:18:51
Speaker 2: sit there and completely used to watch the Arnold Show
00:18:54
Speaker 2: and those bodybuilders who were posing on stages, it was
00:18:57
Speaker 2: little bit attraction from inside.
00:19:00
Speaker 2: Ok. So in this scenario, I started working out, I
00:19:03
Speaker 2: started working out at home itself. Like I, we used
00:19:05
Speaker 2: to have a small room study room. So in that
00:19:09
Speaker 2: room only from morning to evening books or studies what
00:19:12
Speaker 2: we used to do and the night the cello are
00:19:15
Speaker 2: bad and we used to do push ups crus there.
00:19:20
Speaker 2: And at that time, like fitness industry was like coming
00:19:23
Speaker 2: up in our country. It was not like not like
00:19:26
Speaker 2: this that time.
00:19:27
Speaker 2: So one there was one gym started nearby my home,
00:19:31
Speaker 2: I used to stay in Hyderabad for my studies. So
00:19:34
Speaker 2: nearby like uh uh 1 to 2 kilometers of distance,
00:19:38
Speaker 2: one gym started. But that time it was very problematic
00:19:41
Speaker 2: for me to to walk, to go to the gym.
00:19:44
Speaker 2: So one thing which changed my life, I can say
00:19:47
Speaker 2: that is my, I bought a two wheeler.
00:19:51
Speaker 2: So my friend had the Kennedy Conda
00:19:54
Speaker 2: scooter.
00:19:56
Speaker 2: So what he he was upgrading to some bike. So
00:19:59
Speaker 2: he insisted me. So you, you take this scooter, modify it,
00:20:03
Speaker 2: start moving
00:20:05
Speaker 2: that one thing really, it changed my life. I bought
00:20:09
Speaker 2: that kinetic Munda. I attached side wheels for that.
00:20:13
Speaker 2: That thing helped me to start um to to improve
00:20:17
Speaker 2: my mobility.
00:20:18
Speaker 2: So with the one with that Ken Honda, I used
00:20:21
Speaker 2: to travel, the travel became easy for me to move
00:20:24
Speaker 2: from one place to another.
00:20:26
Speaker 2: I
00:20:26
Speaker 1: kind of in you are independent now you don't
00:20:29
Speaker 2: have. I was, yeah. Yeah. First I was dependent after
00:20:32
Speaker 2: that I was a little bit, I felt the independency.
00:20:36
Speaker 2: So then I joined the gym and, uh, stepping in
00:20:39
Speaker 2: the gym, as I said, it, like, uh, more than
00:20:42
Speaker 2: 20 years or 20 years, I guess. But still I
00:20:45
Speaker 2: smell fresh how I felt that, uh, ambience of the gym.
00:20:49
Speaker 2: It was all of a sudden
00:20:50
Speaker 2: seeing that equipment and everything, my legs and hands were
00:20:53
Speaker 2: like shivering. What kind of uh this world is actually? Well,
00:20:57
Speaker 2: I will be able to handle these things. So it
00:21:00
Speaker 2: was completely out of focus. Some motor guy going to
00:21:04
Speaker 2: the gym and everyone was like seeing me. I was,
00:21:08
Speaker 2: I'm not so tall guy that's like 52 or 53
00:21:11
Speaker 2: and my height is on that height. I was 90 Ks.
00:21:15
Speaker 2: So it was completely like a oil drum.
00:21:18
Speaker 2: So people used to land in the gym all uh
00:21:21
Speaker 2: it was located in our old city Ward's old city.
00:21:24
Speaker 2: They were all bodybuilders will be most of the people
00:21:27
Speaker 2: like a heavy guys lifting heavy. So when I entered,
00:21:30
Speaker 2: they used to, they used to see me like this.
00:21:32
Speaker 2: So I was so much I used to feel like
00:21:36
Speaker 2: ashamed on myself,
00:21:37
Speaker 2: but I tried to manage to habituate to using the
00:21:42
Speaker 2: machines and those things. And at that time, there was
00:21:44
Speaker 2: no proper knowledge of nutrition or anything. No proper trainers
00:21:48
Speaker 2: I can say. So only trainer means a bodybuilder
00:21:52
Speaker 2: that is to play bodybuilding. He used to be taken up.
00:21:55
Speaker 2: So he gave me a diet plan
00:21:57
Speaker 2: which was rich in carbohydrates.
00:22:00
Speaker 2: I can say roughly if I calculate the calories. No,
00:22:04
Speaker 2: it was around 3000 calorie diet. He gave me.
00:22:08
Speaker 2: So I was confused also without zero, without the knowledge
00:22:11
Speaker 2: or diet with zero knowledge, I got question like I asked,
00:22:15
Speaker 2: is that the food I have to eat or should
00:22:17
Speaker 2: I skip my home food or add this? He said no,
00:22:20
Speaker 2: continue your home food, rice and all those things along
00:22:23
Speaker 2: with this food. So it was, I guess 3000 or
00:22:26
Speaker 2: more than 3000 calories it would be.
00:22:29
Speaker 2: So I started that diet. Instead of putting down the weight,
00:22:33
Speaker 2: I started gaining weight, I guess 45 kg si gained
00:22:37
Speaker 2: with that diet.
00:22:38
Speaker 2: So it was going like that. So one thing again
00:22:41
Speaker 2: changed in my life. Uh that one incident happened with me.
00:22:45
Speaker 2: So when I was out for shopping in my town,
00:22:49
Speaker 2: I was uh I used to live in a village,
00:22:52
Speaker 2: I was there in Hyderabad for studies. And whenever I
00:22:54
Speaker 2: used to get holidays, I back to village for with
00:22:57
Speaker 2: my parents to live with my friends. So there was
00:23:00
Speaker 2: a town, small town where
00:23:02
Speaker 2: yeah, cloth shop. That time shopping malls were not there
00:23:05
Speaker 2: and finding uh my size clothes were difficult. So they
00:23:09
Speaker 2: were like the shops, retail shops.
00:23:12
Speaker 2: So I gone there to buy a t-shirt actually. So
00:23:16
Speaker 2: I gone, I bought T shirt without a trial.
00:23:20
Speaker 2: I took home and when I wore it home, it
00:23:23
Speaker 2: was like a tight for me. So I came back
00:23:25
Speaker 2: to the shop. I said, man, this is uh tight
00:23:28
Speaker 2: for me. So what he asked? No, no, it will
00:23:30
Speaker 2: be your size only. Check out once he, he insisted
00:23:34
Speaker 2: to chain the uh T shirt in front of, in
00:23:36
Speaker 2: the middle of the shop only.
00:23:38
Speaker 2: So why when I removed and wore the shop, the
00:23:41
Speaker 2: whole shop staff uh started laughing on me
00:23:44
Speaker 2: by seeing me
00:23:46
Speaker 2: because my, my position was like that I was so
00:23:50
Speaker 2: fat hectic. So I, anyhow, I returned the t-shirt. But
00:23:54
Speaker 2: while leaving again, the shopkeeper owner came to me and
00:23:58
Speaker 2: he gave his lecture.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: He directly said what you're doing to yourself, see your position,
00:24:03
Speaker 2: you're on crutches, you're walking, using the crutches on support,
00:24:08
Speaker 2: you're dependent on the crutches and you're putting like this
00:24:11
Speaker 2: weight
00:24:12
Speaker 2: and see yourself how you are looking that thing. It
00:24:16
Speaker 2: shocked me like anything. It was like
00:24:19
Speaker 2: stable on the ground.
00:24:21
Speaker 2: So I gone to home. I started, I, I sat
00:24:25
Speaker 2: for some time and I thought, shall I have to
00:24:27
Speaker 2: do something? Now, the time came.
00:24:30
Speaker 2: So whatever happened, it happened for good. Only. So after that,
00:24:33
Speaker 2: I started uh doing research on diet. I thought something. Yeah,
00:24:38
Speaker 2: I'm doing wrong because since one or two years I
00:24:40
Speaker 2: was working out in the gym at that time, but
00:24:42
Speaker 2: not uh half kg. Also, I lost but even I
00:24:46
Speaker 2: was motivated, I was forcing myself to go gym and do,
00:24:49
Speaker 2: do workout because that thing was there. The love for
00:24:52
Speaker 2: that workout was there from inside. So after that, I
00:24:56
Speaker 2: started Googling Google and those things came that time,
00:25:00
Speaker 2: it started like what would be the reason why I'm
00:25:03
Speaker 2: not
00:25:03
Speaker 1: losing Sanju, sorry to cut you off. Uh Before we
00:25:06
Speaker 1: move on to what you did. Uh two things I
00:25:09
Speaker 1: want to point out is um
00:25:12
Speaker 1: a lot of times um it is very common for
00:25:15
Speaker 1: people to tease people who are fat
00:25:19
Speaker 1: and it is also very common that uh because I
00:25:22
Speaker 1: have been in that situation, I was not very over
00:25:25
Speaker 1: obese or like that. I had a big belly and
00:25:27
Speaker 1: all I was fat. Ok? Uh And it is also
00:25:30
Speaker 1: very common that um people are who are fat are
00:25:35
Speaker 1: complacent and uh they have accepted their condition.
00:25:39
Speaker 1: I think you were also in that situation and you
00:25:41
Speaker 1: had all the reasons to be reasons to accept that
00:25:44
Speaker 1: because you had disability and you had this, you know,
00:25:47
Speaker 1: a lot of people say um when I was sick for,
00:25:51
Speaker 1: I was in, in bed rest for two months, I
00:25:54
Speaker 1: became fat because of tablets because of uh you know,
00:25:58
Speaker 1: bed rest, people will complain and they'll keep complaining it
00:26:01
Speaker 1: for the next 10 years. I've seen people like that
00:26:05
Speaker 1: and uh two things. One thing is, uh,
00:26:09
Speaker 1: it is very common for people to make fun of
00:26:11
Speaker 1: fat people and it is accepted as fun.
00:26:15
Speaker 1: Second thing is fat people are already complacent and they
00:26:19
Speaker 1: are immune to that like they don't care because they have,
00:26:22
Speaker 1: uh had it so many times.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: And um,
00:26:27
Speaker 1: third thing is, uh the person who took you aside
00:26:30
Speaker 1: and talked to you was your angel in disguise, the
00:26:33
Speaker 1: owner of the, right. And uh whenever, and a lot
00:26:37
Speaker 1: of times these angels in disguise come people disregard,
00:26:44
Speaker 1: they'll not consider because they are still stewing in their
00:26:47
Speaker 1: own victimhood, right?
00:26:51
Speaker 1: They have everything to complain.
00:26:54
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, at least you had everything to complain. But, uh,
00:26:57
Speaker 1: it's beautiful that you took that advice and uh it
00:27:00
Speaker 1: happened to you, right? And because of that incident, uh
00:27:04
Speaker 1: you could make change in your life,
00:27:06
Speaker 1: right? Ok. So you, and um my story also is
00:27:10
Speaker 1: connected to a t-shirt. Uh, uh, maybe I'll talk about
00:27:14
Speaker 1: it because this is, the show is meant for you,
00:27:17
Speaker 1: not for me. But uh my story is also connected
00:27:19
Speaker 1: with the T shirt. That is how my fitness journey started. Um,
00:27:24
Speaker 1: the recent one because I have, I have been to
00:27:26
Speaker 1: gym so many times. Even, uh when you were talking
00:27:29
Speaker 1: about your first time in the gym,
00:27:31
Speaker 1: I could literally, you know, remember my first day in
00:27:35
Speaker 1: the gym, that kind of all the people who are
00:27:39
Speaker 1: already muscular and huge make pounds grunting. My gym was
00:27:43
Speaker 1: very local gym. It was like, ahaa, converted to a gym.
00:27:48
Speaker 1: And, um, I could remember that my first day in
00:27:52
Speaker 1: the gym.
00:27:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Uh, so I'll let you continue. So,
00:27:57
Speaker 1: what changes did you do?
00:27:59
Speaker 2: Because
00:28:00
Speaker 1: people have this misconception. If you go to gym, you'll
00:28:03
Speaker 1: not lose weight. This is a misconception. As a gym,
00:28:06
Speaker 1: I've seen this a lot. And, uh in um a
00:28:10
Speaker 1: decade back or two decades back, there was no knowledge
00:28:13
Speaker 1: about nutrition. It was very hard to get. Very tough.
00:28:16
Speaker 1: It was so I'm interested what you did later on.
00:28:20
Speaker 2: So as as you said, people will start accepting the situation.
00:28:24
Speaker 2: But in my scenario, I was not accepting that thing.
00:28:27
Speaker 2: I was not OK with that obesity. I, I was
00:28:31
Speaker 2: in like uh in hunger of to change myself because
00:28:35
Speaker 2: I said now that love was there for bodybuilding. I
00:28:38
Speaker 2: was I grown up seeing the shows like whenever I
00:28:41
Speaker 2: used to get a photo of bodybuilder, it used to
00:28:43
Speaker 2: be in my pocket in my wallet.
00:28:46
Speaker 2: I used to show up to my friends see how
00:28:48
Speaker 2: he is physique. And I used to do push ups,
00:28:51
Speaker 2: lift some uh that uh measuring weights will be there, right?
00:28:56
Speaker 2: So that time there used to be a garden of
00:28:58
Speaker 2: men at my house. So that measuring weights will used
00:29:01
Speaker 2: to be, I used to work out in that in
00:29:02
Speaker 2: the school I used to show off see my biceps,
00:29:05
Speaker 2: all those things. So it was there. The hunger was
00:29:07
Speaker 2: always there. So I was not accepting this thing because
00:29:10
Speaker 2: I accepted one thing. It happened to me cello it OK?
00:29:14
Speaker 2: But this thing was in my hands. So I was,
00:29:18
Speaker 2: I wasn't eager to change that thing which can be changeable.
00:29:22
Speaker 2: But the problem which happened to me, the polio thing,
00:29:25
Speaker 2: it was, it cannot be changed. So I accepted it. OK.
00:29:28
Speaker 2: It happened to me. I am that
00:29:29
Speaker 2: but this thing I was not accepting, I was there
00:29:32
Speaker 2: were so many sleepless nights. So many times I used
00:29:36
Speaker 2: to woke up the night in the night and used
00:29:38
Speaker 2: to think, how can, how can I change my physic?
00:29:41
Speaker 2: How can I transform myself? How can I get rid
00:29:43
Speaker 2: of this thing and be comfortable
00:29:45
Speaker 2: in my life? This thing was going on. So I
00:29:47
Speaker 2: started uh doing research on diet uh others. So I
00:29:51
Speaker 2: got a statement. It's not absolutely true. But at that time,
00:29:56
Speaker 2: this treatment was increased. 70% diet, 30% workout. So I thought, yeah,
00:30:02
Speaker 2: diet will also a thing which will play a key role.
00:30:06
Speaker 2: Let's focus on that.
00:30:08
Speaker 2: I started reading magazines. I start reading articles in newspaper.
00:30:14
Speaker 2: I started seeing one. Any show used to come in TV.
00:30:19
Speaker 2: I start to, I used to spend time on that. Yeah,
00:30:22
Speaker 2: I like started gathering knowledge. This thing, this thing started
00:30:27
Speaker 2: like uh affecting my mindset to slowly focusing the shift
00:30:30
Speaker 2: from only lifting weights to
00:30:32
Speaker 2: uh maintaining a diet also. And after that one incident happened,
00:30:37
Speaker 2: I will tell you the funny thing. So what happened?
00:30:39
Speaker 2: One of my dad's friend bought that Akin Pro. You
00:30:43
Speaker 2: have an idea about the others,
00:30:46
Speaker 2: a King Pro in uh on TV ad used to
00:30:52
Speaker 2: come continuously. It will be a seat by a ring
00:30:55
Speaker 2: and you have to hold and do conscious
00:30:58
Speaker 1: that I also different names
00:31:02
Speaker 2: at King Pro. That time, it was very famous. It
00:31:04
Speaker 2: was expensive at that time. It was uh 1520 1516
00:31:08
Speaker 2: years back. I I if I'm not wrong, it was
00:31:11
Speaker 2: 5000 or something. So one of my dad bought that
00:31:14
Speaker 2: and he bought, he kept at home uh thinking that
00:31:18
Speaker 2: it will help them to get flat tummy six pack
00:31:22
Speaker 2: or something. He used for a few days after that.
00:31:25
Speaker 2: He kept aside
00:31:26
Speaker 2: and uh one day he came to know that like
00:31:30
Speaker 2: uh we were, we are very fond of workouts. We
00:31:32
Speaker 2: had some few equipments that time. That time we bought
00:31:35
Speaker 2: some equipment at home. He saw that and he said
00:31:38
Speaker 2: my dad, I have this thing you can take for
00:31:40
Speaker 2: your kids. They will start uh using, let's see. So
00:31:43
Speaker 2: my dad, what the good thing he did. He bought
00:31:45
Speaker 2: that a pro. So that act that a pro I
00:31:49
Speaker 2: was in degree if I'm not wrong. Yeah, I was
00:31:51
Speaker 2: in uh my degree. So
00:31:54
Speaker 2: we bought that, we fixed that. And with that app
00:31:57
Speaker 2: King Pro, I got a manual, a fair sample diet.
00:32:04
Speaker 2: So
00:32:05
Speaker 2: everything was written, it will give a result. You will
00:32:09
Speaker 2: get this, this kind of result if you work on that.
00:32:11
Speaker 2: But caution disclaimer, you have to follow this type. So
00:32:15
Speaker 2: when I opened and saw in that there was a
00:32:17
Speaker 2: sample diet of protein, OK? You can add protein and carbohydrates,
00:32:24
Speaker 2: healthy fats. I got yellow. This thing we have to
00:32:28
Speaker 2: focus and
00:32:29
Speaker 1: this was in which year
00:32:31
Speaker 2: if I'm not wrong is 2004.
00:32:34
Speaker 1: OK? And I think by the time the internet was
00:32:38
Speaker 1: there but it was only used for not
00:32:40
Speaker 2: like this, not like this, it was very slow in
00:32:44
Speaker 2: M BC. It used to come if you click on anything,
00:32:48
Speaker 2: it used to take like 5 to 10 minutes to open.
00:32:50
Speaker 2: So yeah, I got a plan. So let's do it.
00:32:53
Speaker 2: But
00:32:54
Speaker 2: the small change what I did, you won't believe others.
00:32:58
Speaker 2: I just control the potion.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: Mm I didn't follow any fancy diet. I didn't do
00:33:05
Speaker 2: any like balancing kind of thing or didn't add any
00:33:10
Speaker 2: chicken eggs or any kind of thing because at that time,
00:33:14
Speaker 2: no proper knowledge was just going on in flow.
00:33:17
Speaker 2: But I used to eat like a very big quantity
00:33:21
Speaker 2: of rice which I bought half or less than half.
00:33:25
Speaker 2: I started eating frequent meals with less quantity
00:33:30
Speaker 2: automatically because I used to do heavy weights. The thing
00:33:35
Speaker 2: was there, this thing was missing. No, it also came
00:33:39
Speaker 2: in picture
00:33:40
Speaker 2: automatically. It started showing results
00:33:43
Speaker 2: suddenly from 90 kgs to I came to 85 kgs,
00:33:47
Speaker 2: 85 kgs to 80 kgs. So I guess it's not
00:33:52
Speaker 2: a uh good uh like healthy weight loss. I can
00:33:54
Speaker 2: say it was like drastic uh loss I was doing
00:33:58
Speaker 2: and I had a good experience with the supplement also.
00:34:01
Speaker 2: So that time, one of my friend came up the
00:34:03
Speaker 2: supplement shop
00:34:05
Speaker 2: small. He opened supplement shop. That fellow also didn't have
00:34:09
Speaker 2: proper idea what supplement went to use. I've gone to
00:34:12
Speaker 2: him and I said, uh why, why, why don't you
00:34:15
Speaker 2: give me one supplement which can help me to lose
00:34:17
Speaker 2: the weight? So will you believe what supplement he gave
00:34:22
Speaker 2: to me?
00:34:23
Speaker 2: He gave care time
00:34:25
Speaker 2: to lose the weight.
00:34:28
Speaker 2: I bought Creatine. I instructed the take one spoon of
00:34:32
Speaker 2: Creatine before workout and do workout and you will see
00:34:35
Speaker 2: the result. He said just added portion control. I added Creatine.
00:34:40
Speaker 2: Don't know what magic happened
00:34:43
Speaker 2: within six months. People were unable to recognize me from
00:34:48
Speaker 2: the uh holiday time to I I was back to
00:34:51
Speaker 2: my studies to Hyderabad. I joined the gym. I was
00:34:54
Speaker 2: taking Creatine just balancing the portion nighttime instead of uh rice.
00:34:59
Speaker 2: I gone for chapatis because that I fancy it was
00:35:02
Speaker 2: eat chapatis to lose weight in the night time. So
00:35:05
Speaker 2: I controlled the potion. So chapati one to chapati with
00:35:09
Speaker 2: the normal curries like that. I started eating
00:35:13
Speaker 2: when I came back from my studies. After minimum, like
00:35:17
Speaker 2: 6 to 7 months, I guess I stayed in Hyderabad
00:35:19
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden I came back in holidays
00:35:21
Speaker 2: again to my village.
00:35:23
Speaker 2: Nobody was like, recognizing me, everyone was thinking I'm a
00:35:26
Speaker 2: younger brother of Sanjiv.
00:35:28
Speaker 2: My friend used to, my friends used to go from
00:35:30
Speaker 2: uh side and they, they were not seeing the high
00:35:34
Speaker 2: also because after like seeing keenly, they used to come
00:35:38
Speaker 2: back and say, San you, what happened? Any illness? Where
00:35:41
Speaker 2: were you in hospital or what happened to you? Why
00:35:44
Speaker 2: you became like this,
00:35:46
Speaker 2: the drastic change. It was
00:35:48
Speaker 1: I know that I have got that when I had
00:35:50
Speaker 1: my first transformation,
00:35:53
Speaker 2: funny, funny things happen. So from 90 Ks to
00:35:58
Speaker 2: I guess I came to 60 or 65 K all
00:36:01
Speaker 2: of a sudden it was not hilly but it happened.
00:36:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:36:07
Speaker 2: So this day like this started. So in this journey
00:36:11
Speaker 2: that uh tendency was there, the bloodline was there. As
00:36:15
Speaker 2: I said, you from my mother's side,
00:36:17
Speaker 2: little muscle growth was happening because I was lifting heavy
00:36:20
Speaker 2: since that time. Also, I had good strength in my
00:36:23
Speaker 2: upper body. I, I guess due to this problem, I
00:36:27
Speaker 2: have like the strength transfer to my upper body. I
00:36:30
Speaker 2: don't know. So I started uh competing the huge fellows
00:36:34
Speaker 2: who were in gym
00:36:36
Speaker 2: and the lifting the weights. So I used to lift
00:36:39
Speaker 2: 25 kgs, 30 kgs that time only chest presses. So that,
00:36:45
Speaker 2: that helped me to gain like, uh I started seeing
00:36:48
Speaker 2: muscle gain in my body. So, yeah, yeah, this like
00:36:52
Speaker 2: this was going on like on off, on off kind
00:36:55
Speaker 2: of thing.
00:36:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, um, um, so one thing I can say
00:37:00
Speaker 1: here is what lesson I can draw is, uh, you
00:37:03
Speaker 1: said initially it was unhealthy weight loss, like whatever you
00:37:07
Speaker 1: were doing, it was working, but it was unhealthy weight loss.
00:37:11
Speaker 1: Uh My point here is, um,
00:37:14
Speaker 1: even in my own fitness journey when I started, I started, uh,
00:37:18
Speaker 1: cutting the portion because somewhere in, uh, somewhere, uh, you know,
00:37:22
Speaker 1: during my school days, one person had come to us
00:37:25
Speaker 1: and given a lecture about natural lifestyle that uh nutrition related,
00:37:30
Speaker 1: um lecture and he had talked about portions. You have
00:37:34
Speaker 1: to eat less, you have to eat more vegetables, things
00:37:36
Speaker 1: like that. And that only that I applied like I
00:37:39
Speaker 1: reduced portion of rice
00:37:41
Speaker 1: portion of Chapati or roti, whatever I was eating and
00:37:45
Speaker 1: I added more vegetables and that was enough to get
00:37:47
Speaker 1: me results. I lost the initial, that initial few kilos
00:37:52
Speaker 1: of weight actually hooked me,
00:37:55
Speaker 1: right. And whenever it comes to fitness or for that matter, anything,
00:38:00
Speaker 1: if you want to succeed, you need some early wins.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: That is, that will, that will. But a lot of
00:38:06
Speaker 1: people are stuck in, you know, uh, stuck in their um, um,
00:38:12
Speaker 1: struggle because, um, they are exercising but not taking care
00:38:17
Speaker 1: of diet.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: Ok? Or they are dieting too much but not exercising
00:38:23
Speaker 1: or they are doing some kind of extreme diet which
00:38:25
Speaker 1: they cannot sustain for a long period of time, even
00:38:27
Speaker 1: though it's a few results, but they will not be
00:38:29
Speaker 1: able to continue. Right. That's uh, one beautiful lesson I
00:38:34
Speaker 1: could draw from you. And it's the same thing with
00:38:36
Speaker 1: me Also, same thing happened with me. OK? And um
00:38:41
Speaker 1: another thing is um you said, uh you know, you, you,
00:38:44
Speaker 1: you talked about creating,
00:38:47
Speaker 1: you can generally what is, what it does is it
00:38:50
Speaker 1: will improve your strength, strength and performance when you take that. Right?
00:38:54
Speaker 1: And uh my, in my case, when I started going
00:38:58
Speaker 1: to gym when I was in, I was 15 years old,
00:39:01
Speaker 1: I was weak and skinny and uh exercise is something
00:39:04
Speaker 1: where um
00:39:06
Speaker 1: uh even it is still the case in other um these,
00:39:09
Speaker 1: you know, old gyms and all here
00:39:12
Speaker 1: that it is somewhere either it's a show of strength
00:39:15
Speaker 1: and it is somewhere you perform and you know, show
00:39:17
Speaker 1: your strength and ability, right? That is, that is how
00:39:21
Speaker 1: it was earlier also. And uh uh even in our culture,
00:39:25
Speaker 1: like it is, it was always a comparison between me
00:39:27
Speaker 1: and a friend or me or a cousin. OK. How
00:39:30
Speaker 1: many see it show me how many push ups you
00:39:32
Speaker 1: can do and see how, how, how many push ups
00:39:35
Speaker 1: he can do. It was always like this. And if
00:39:37
Speaker 1: you're a weak person, someone who is,
00:39:39
Speaker 1: um you know, abilities are on the lower side, you
00:39:42
Speaker 1: always end up being uh low on confidence, you end
00:39:45
Speaker 1: up believing that you are weak by nature, stuff like that.
00:39:48
Speaker 1: And I used to hate exercising at that time, even
00:39:54
Speaker 1: though I had this desire to become strong and build
00:39:56
Speaker 1: a great physique and all I used to hate exercise
00:39:59
Speaker 1: and that is why I kept on failing again and again.
00:40:02
Speaker 1: And I also did not follow any kind of diet
00:40:04
Speaker 1: at that time. That is why I kept on failing.
00:40:07
Speaker 1: Yeah. But, um, to my luck when I started in 2015,
00:40:12
Speaker 1: I was very fat and, uh, I stumbled upon a
00:40:16
Speaker 1: book called Bigger In a Stronger by Michael Matthews where
00:40:20
Speaker 1: he talks about strength training. And specifically he had this, um, uh,
00:40:24
Speaker 1: inclination towards lifting heavy.
00:40:28
Speaker 1: And, uh, that is what hooked me like. Um, it
00:40:31
Speaker 1: was amazing that I could, uh, week by week I
00:40:34
Speaker 1: could increase the weights which I can handle. And I
00:40:37
Speaker 1: had never had this idea that you could add weights,
00:40:40
Speaker 1: like you can fix your reputations to a certain range
00:40:44
Speaker 1: and whenever you're able to reach that upper range, you
00:40:46
Speaker 1: can add the weights.
00:40:48
Speaker 1: This is something which I was missing. When I went
00:40:50
Speaker 1: to gyms earlier. Nobody told me when the gym trainers
00:40:53
Speaker 1: couldn't tell me this. Ok, they just tell I do
00:40:57
Speaker 1: 15 reputations in this, this this and they'll never talk
00:40:59
Speaker 1: about this progressive loading. You have to add weight over
00:41:02
Speaker 1: time and in order to get results, you have to
00:41:05
Speaker 1: eat protein. Nobody told me this. So eating protein
00:41:09
Speaker 1: and progressive loading, this is what changed the game for me.
00:41:12
Speaker 1: And uh since eight years, I'm in love with lifting
00:41:15
Speaker 1: like I cannot feel now. And that is that is
00:41:19
Speaker 1: how transformations happen, right? It is a lot of people
00:41:22
Speaker 1: will see only the end result, the before and after picture.
00:41:27
Speaker 1: But what happens between this before and after is um
00:41:30
Speaker 1: um is
00:41:33
Speaker 1: it is not something uh discussed a lot in public
00:41:36
Speaker 1: and even if it is discussed, discussed, it is not
00:41:39
Speaker 1: so attractive.
00:41:40
Speaker 1: Yes, that is where that is where a lot of
00:41:43
Speaker 1: people miss the point.
00:41:45
Speaker 1: You see,
00:41:47
Speaker 1: I lost uh I was 81 kg, si went to 63.
00:41:52
Speaker 1: I lost uh 18 kgs in one year. But this
00:41:55
Speaker 1: one year had a history behind it. History of going
00:41:58
Speaker 1: to gym and not getting results, history of being uh
00:42:02
Speaker 1: uh conscious and being nervous when you went to the
00:42:06
Speaker 1: gym for the first time.
00:42:08
Speaker 1: History of not having the support of family when you
00:42:10
Speaker 1: are going to gym is the one thing. It is
00:42:14
Speaker 1: beautiful that your parents were supporting you. Your father was
00:42:17
Speaker 1: supporting you.
00:42:19
Speaker 2: No, no, not in this area.
00:42:21
Speaker 1: Not in this area. Only homework. He was
00:42:24
Speaker 2: he was supporting in every area but he was like, uh,
00:42:27
Speaker 2: not at all. He was against this thing. Work out bodybuilding,
00:42:32
Speaker 2: not in this area.
00:42:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But I think he was supporting you in exercising.
00:42:37
Speaker 1: You could do it at home. But he was against
00:42:39
Speaker 1: going to gym or what?
00:42:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he was against the gym. He was not
00:42:44
Speaker 2: so supportive.
00:42:45
Speaker 2: Ok. He saw the results in me. He said, ok, you,
00:42:48
Speaker 2: your health has improved, it's fine. So, maintain the fitness.
00:42:52
Speaker 2: No need of, uh, lifting heavy weights or doing something. So,
00:42:56
Speaker 2: it's like, uh, uh, like this other, she was not
00:43:00
Speaker 2: against or not in favor. He was like, neutral kind
00:43:04
Speaker 2: of guy. Ok. You want to do, do but, uh,
00:43:06
Speaker 2: focus on other things. No gyming. Nothing that thing could be.
00:43:11
Speaker 2: Keep this side. Yeah.
00:43:13
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:15
Speaker 2: Like, uh, in this area it's very tough. Yeah. Yeah,
00:43:18
Speaker 2: it is. Even in those
00:43:20
Speaker 1: days, even until now my father, you know, suggest me
00:43:24
Speaker 1: don't lift heavy. You might hurt yourself even now, now
00:43:29
Speaker 1: that I'm a fitness coach and helping other people, even
00:43:32
Speaker 1: now I get that from my father and I'm pretty
00:43:36
Speaker 1: sure he has not talked about it openly but he
00:43:38
Speaker 1: doesn't like me going to gym and lifting heavy.
00:43:42
Speaker 1: He doesn't say directly but indirectly, he talks about that
00:43:45
Speaker 1: and all there is a misconception that in the old
00:43:48
Speaker 1: days it will come back to you will, you know,
00:43:51
Speaker 1: you'll be crippled. And you will have back pain, knee pain,
00:43:53
Speaker 1: things like that and
00:43:54
Speaker 2: it happened also due to no proper training. Yeah, you
00:43:59
Speaker 1: definitely definitely in the in the past, it was the
00:44:02
Speaker 1: case because there is no awareness. But nowadays there is awareness,
00:44:05
Speaker 1: a lot of awareness
00:44:07
Speaker 1: and a lot of uh informed and educated coaches are
00:44:10
Speaker 1: coming up. It will take time to uh you know,
00:44:14
Speaker 1: change I can still see in the gym you said
00:44:17
Speaker 1: about creating right. People are giving, creating to lose weight.
00:44:19
Speaker 1: It is still the case even now just to sell
00:44:23
Speaker 1: supplements and do it. Uh even the trainers in the
00:44:27
Speaker 1: gym and the owners in the gym, they just want
00:44:29
Speaker 1: to make money and that is something which I want
00:44:31
Speaker 1: to change in this industry.
00:44:34
Speaker 1: Ok. So let's move on to your achievements. Uh Then
00:44:37
Speaker 1: what happened? How was your journey in bodybuilding? And specifically,
00:44:42
Speaker 1: I want you to talk about the challenges you face
00:44:44
Speaker 1: because of your disability like gyms are made for normal people, right?
00:44:49
Speaker 1: So I would like you to tell me specifically what
00:44:51
Speaker 1: you went through because what I've seen is a lot
00:44:54
Speaker 1: of people even being normal having two legs, two hands
00:44:57
Speaker 1: and everything, they complain and they have excuses for everything.
00:45:02
Speaker 1: But uh uh in your case, it is you you
00:45:06
Speaker 1: had no luxury of uh you know, normal people. Tell
00:45:12
Speaker 1: me what happened and how you overcome these challenges.
00:45:15
Speaker 2: Yeah. So although as I said to you in start
00:45:18
Speaker 2: also like I was not at all planned in my
00:45:21
Speaker 2: life that I am going to became a bodybuilder or
00:45:24
Speaker 2: a coach. That attraction was there. But I was as
00:45:29
Speaker 2: you know, like everyone so much confused guys, should I
00:45:31
Speaker 2: go for fitness or should I focus on my studies?
00:45:34
Speaker 2: Should I go for a job? So in this whole cinema,
00:45:38
Speaker 2: I I was focusing on studies for some time, I
00:45:42
Speaker 2: was working out for some companies some time again, along
00:45:46
Speaker 2: with this, this thing was there always, I was continuing
00:45:49
Speaker 2: to work out, work out. So after becoming fit, after
00:45:52
Speaker 2: gaining like a good uh muzzles on myself, it the
00:45:56
Speaker 2: posture that completely the people who used to see me
00:46:00
Speaker 2: that the whole thing was changed. For me, the whole
00:46:03
Speaker 2: world was changed. And even I gone back to the
00:46:05
Speaker 2: teacher shop also.
00:46:07
Speaker 2: So when I lost weight, I gained good, I, when
00:46:11
Speaker 2: I gained muscles, all those thing again, I gone back
00:46:13
Speaker 2: to that shop to buy, wanted me to buy a
00:46:16
Speaker 2: T shirt.
00:46:18
Speaker 2: So that time that fellow came back, he stood from
00:46:21
Speaker 2: his seat and he came to me and personally he
00:46:25
Speaker 2: appreciated and he was asking tips how you turn to
00:46:28
Speaker 2: yourself like this. Can you give me literally give few
00:46:32
Speaker 2: tips to me also so that I can also become
00:46:34
Speaker 2: a healthy, amazing
00:46:37
Speaker 1: that you went back to him and you could meet him.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: And so I, I know what his words did
00:46:43
Speaker 2: I went back, I removed TSH wanted in the middle
00:46:46
Speaker 2: of the
00:46:46
Speaker 2: uh shop. Again. That time, the whole stop, the same
00:46:51
Speaker 2: stuff was there because they were Marty people, permanent stuff.
00:46:54
Speaker 2: You will be with them. The same stuff was there.
00:46:57
Speaker 2: They were like seeing there. It was like they were
00:47:00
Speaker 2: surprised to see me in that position again. So instead
00:47:04
Speaker 2: of laughing, they're always like
00:47:06
Speaker 2: uh the different kind of, they were surprised to see
00:47:09
Speaker 2: like such different kind of guy came something like and
00:47:12
Speaker 2: the fellow who will give me a lecture, he came
00:47:14
Speaker 2: to me from his seat, middle of the shop, he
00:47:17
Speaker 2: came to me and uh he appreciated, he was like
00:47:21
Speaker 2: so surprised and he was asking tips. So that thing
00:47:25
Speaker 2: like I give his satisfaction. Cello Pala.
00:47:30
Speaker 2: OK. So it happened.
00:47:31
Speaker 1: What was that feeling like? OK, you said butler and
00:47:34
Speaker 1: all you put one not that feeling from within how
00:47:37
Speaker 1: you felt about yourself,
00:47:39
Speaker 2: but I never thought of revenge or anything rather. So
00:47:41
Speaker 2: I was on my way. Yeah. OK. Never competing with anybody.
00:47:45
Speaker 2: Never were competing with anybody. I'm like that only since
00:47:47
Speaker 2: my childhood. So when this many things happened to me,
00:47:50
Speaker 2: this made me like that.
00:47:53
Speaker 2: I'm I will accept my situations and I never compare myself.
00:47:57
Speaker 2: Now also, I'm like that only if anybody say any
00:48:00
Speaker 2: bad thing to me, I never feel bad. OK. That
00:48:03
Speaker 2: is his opinion. Let him say
00:48:05
Speaker 2: so. I have to take or not take it on me.
00:48:08
Speaker 2: So I was like that. So I was I yeah,
00:48:12
Speaker 1: Sanjay just before you can I think uh I also
00:48:15
Speaker 1: felt the same like um it happens when you are
00:48:19
Speaker 1: confident in yourself. I was a person before my fitness journey.
00:48:23
Speaker 1: I was a person who was very insecure. I was
00:48:27
Speaker 1: low in confidence. I had no self-respect for myself.
00:48:31
Speaker 1: And once I had this transformation, it completely changed my word.
00:48:35
Speaker 1: Like I used to uh get upset with other people
00:48:38
Speaker 1: talking about me or what people think about me. I
00:48:42
Speaker 1: used to care about that. But after that, you know,
00:48:45
Speaker 1: when you have that confidence in yourself that um you
00:48:49
Speaker 1: could achieve something on your own, then that uh that
00:48:53
Speaker 1: will go away,
00:48:55
Speaker 1: that will go away and it keeps coming back whenever
00:48:58
Speaker 1: uh let's say my business is not doing well or
00:49:00
Speaker 1: that feeling keeps coming back to me. OK? But this one,
00:49:05
Speaker 1: you know, transformation, um people who has, who have gone
00:49:11
Speaker 1: through this transformation only can understand this. It is not
00:49:14
Speaker 1: only physical uh it will be mental also, it will
00:49:18
Speaker 1: be spiritual also. How do you feel about yourself? How
00:49:21
Speaker 1: you feel about your place in the world, things like that.
00:49:25
Speaker 1: And it is very hard to explain for people who
00:49:27
Speaker 1: have not gone through that.
00:49:29
Speaker 1: Right? Yes.
00:49:32
Speaker 2: So, so I, I gave him tips ico him like
00:49:35
Speaker 2: maintain your health also sitting whole day on the counter
00:49:38
Speaker 2: is not a good thing for you. So start working
00:49:41
Speaker 2: on that. I give a few tips how to control diet.
00:49:45
Speaker 2: So I started like uh from that time only I
00:49:47
Speaker 2: started distributing the knowledge what I learned I was like distributing.
00:49:51
Speaker 2: So in this journey, as I said, you, I started
00:49:54
Speaker 2: seeing good amount of muscle gain on me
00:49:57
Speaker 2: because I was lifting heavy, I was maintaining diet. But
00:50:00
Speaker 2: I was so confused. I had to go for fitness
00:50:03
Speaker 2: or studies. So many times I left also for a
00:50:06
Speaker 2: few months. I used to be out of, from, from
00:50:08
Speaker 2: my workout. I was working for night shift for a,
00:50:11
Speaker 2: your staffing company. Ok. But, uh, when I joined the
00:50:16
Speaker 2: company for 23 months, I was away from my workout.
00:50:18
Speaker 2: But that's like it's kind of addiction. We cannot stay, uh,
00:50:22
Speaker 2: away for a longer time.
00:50:25
Speaker 2: So I used to work for a whole night and
00:50:28
Speaker 2: that from office, I used to hit gym
00:50:31
Speaker 2: and night, full night work, uh, in the office, early
00:50:34
Speaker 2: morning workout after workout, everything, breakfast or everything. And I
00:50:39
Speaker 2: used to take a rest and this thing was going on. Um,
00:50:42
Speaker 2: in this, uh, process, we thought of, uh, setting up
00:50:46
Speaker 2: a gym in our town.
00:50:48
Speaker 2: So we started a small gym here in our, in
00:50:52
Speaker 2: our own property. So it was like, uh, it gone good.
00:50:56
Speaker 2: But what happened here also, we are like, uh, four
00:50:58
Speaker 2: or five brothers, uh, cousins and we are joint family.
00:51:02
Speaker 2: So like we combined started a family kind of business.
00:51:06
Speaker 2: So again in that confusion, ok, you can, uh my
00:51:09
Speaker 2: brother's been taking care of the facility. I was in,
00:51:12
Speaker 2: in confusion, should I go for move forward with the fitness?
00:51:16
Speaker 2: I was already training people. I was working on myself.
00:51:19
Speaker 2: I was, I started training people. Ok. And I took
00:51:23
Speaker 2: this course also. Yes,
00:51:25
Speaker 2: to upgrade my knowledge. Ok. And uh I was a
00:51:28
Speaker 2: like you can see now also I am the one
00:51:31
Speaker 2: certified trainer in my town. OK. So I started training
00:51:35
Speaker 2: people but still the confusion out there will will be
00:51:37
Speaker 2: future in this field or should I go with software
00:51:41
Speaker 2: or something? Go should I go, go back to the job?
00:51:45
Speaker 2: So like that like that, I enjoy, I did MB
00:51:47
Speaker 2: A also thinking of going to a job but this
00:51:51
Speaker 2: thing was like chasing me always.
00:51:54
Speaker 2: So in this uh scenario, I came through this guy's
00:51:59
Speaker 2: channel others, Gruman guru Man's youtube channel in 2014 or 15,
00:52:06
Speaker 2: I guess
00:52:08
Speaker 2: I saw his lifestyle, I saw his challenge, his channel
00:52:12
Speaker 2: and I thought mandated the future in
00:52:16
Speaker 2: fitness. Also, let's move a little bit further in it.
00:52:20
Speaker 2: Then I fully focused on myself. I started adding supplements.
00:52:25
Speaker 2: I use my whole thing. What I know that time
00:52:29
Speaker 2: like I start apply, started applying on myself. I started
00:52:32
Speaker 2: cutting down carbohydrates, increasing the protein intake salads. So I
00:52:38
Speaker 2: took like a 66 6 or eight weeks challenge on myself.
00:52:43
Speaker 2: And the results were, was like, uh I even, I
00:52:46
Speaker 2: was surprised to see me myself like that in that
00:52:49
Speaker 2: mirror because the lifting was there. I like, as I said, you, I'm,
00:52:53
Speaker 2: I'm a heavy lifter.
00:52:55
Speaker 2: So even now, also I lift like, uh twice off
00:52:58
Speaker 2: my body weight or more than that in bench presses,
00:53:01
Speaker 2: all those things. So that, that thing where the muzzle
00:53:04
Speaker 2: was strength was there running was going on. But I
00:53:06
Speaker 2: added these things to my physique completely. It was like
00:53:11
Speaker 2: uh I,
00:53:12
Speaker 2: a different person came from inside, completely shredded with uh
00:53:16
Speaker 2: low carb fat person, completely six or no. I gained
00:53:21
Speaker 2: eight packs in the first transformation itself. I in, in
00:53:24
Speaker 2: this time
00:53:27
Speaker 2: and one thing was always in my mind uh other
00:53:30
Speaker 2: I that was like keeping myself away from medicines. I
00:53:34
Speaker 2: never attracted toward the medicines, the announcers, what body because
00:53:38
Speaker 2: now also if anybody think of bodybuilding first, they will
00:53:41
Speaker 2: think about the answer, then bodybuilding, they will simply, they
00:53:45
Speaker 2: will say he's a bodybuilder. Yes. Right. Kara. OK. By
00:53:48
Speaker 2: the way again. So, but my perception was like against her,
00:53:53
Speaker 2: I kept myself away. So
00:53:57
Speaker 2: I, I don't want to, I decided long back that
00:54:00
Speaker 2: I don't want to go because I took a lot
00:54:02
Speaker 2: of medicines. I think that was the effect when this
00:54:04
Speaker 2: thing happened to me. I was in hospital. So many
00:54:08
Speaker 2: like uh medicines, like they experimented on me like anything.
00:54:12
Speaker 2: So that's why I like fitted with the medicines. So
00:54:16
Speaker 2: no offense, people who use this their choice. But I
00:54:19
Speaker 2: thought like keeping myself away from that and the thought
00:54:22
Speaker 2: of some building some other path which is natural path.
00:54:26
Speaker 2: So so many people who started with me bodybuilding, they
00:54:31
Speaker 2: became bodybuilders, they step stages and they retired also. But
00:54:37
Speaker 2: I never attracted. I thought of joy. Roy, a slow study.
00:54:41
Speaker 2: It's more slow study. Whatever happens will happen,
00:54:45
Speaker 2: either I became body builder or not, but I have
00:54:47
Speaker 2: to keep away from those in us. Although those are
00:54:50
Speaker 2: that attraction.
00:54:51
Speaker 2: So this thing was there. I never used the medicines,
00:54:54
Speaker 2: but I started using supplements whey protein and uh and
00:55:00
Speaker 2: I took one nutrition course. Also, that thing taught me
00:55:04
Speaker 2: so many things regarding supplements, how glutamine works, how fish oil,
00:55:08
Speaker 2: how omegas will work, react, works on your body, how
00:55:12
Speaker 2: they are healthy. So I started, I made a stack
00:55:14
Speaker 2: of supplement from morning to evening. What time I have
00:55:17
Speaker 2: to take? Which one? Which one? So this thing,
00:55:20
Speaker 2: it completely changed me. So slowly, slowly, I took uh
00:55:24
Speaker 2: six or eight weeks of uh challenge. So first five
00:55:29
Speaker 2: or 66 weeks, it was like normal kind of changes
00:55:32
Speaker 2: were coming not so intense. But the last 23 weeks,
00:55:36
Speaker 2: I kept faith on the transformation I was going. I
00:55:40
Speaker 2: was doing continuously. The boring thing again. And again and
00:55:43
Speaker 2: again in the last 23 weeks, the complete picture was
00:55:47
Speaker 2: changed
00:55:47
Speaker 2: and I was searching for a platform to come to
00:55:50
Speaker 2: show off my skills. It's not, I don't consider it
00:55:52
Speaker 2: a competition. I always say it's event for me to
00:55:55
Speaker 2: show off my fitness skills. That's all because I don't
00:55:58
Speaker 2: want to be a competitor. I don't have to compete
00:56:00
Speaker 2: with anyone. So in that time, I came, I came
00:56:03
Speaker 2: in touch with the
00:56:05
Speaker 2: one our Northeast guy. His name is Magnum Shanti Kumar Mita.
00:56:10
Speaker 2: So he was appointed as I NBA Asian president. So
00:56:15
Speaker 2: he's from Northeast. He studied in Delhi, from Delhi. Started competing.
00:56:20
Speaker 2: He is also completely natural guy. So I don't know,
00:56:24
Speaker 2: like a long back. He got that stage I NBA stage.
00:56:29
Speaker 2: So it's International Natural Bodybuilding Association.
00:56:33
Speaker 2: So he get connected, he got connected with the stage
00:56:35
Speaker 2: and he was the Asian guy who won uh Olympia
00:56:39
Speaker 2: in his height and weight category.
00:56:42
Speaker 2: So the INB appointed him as the uh president of
00:56:47
Speaker 2: Asian region. So I uh one of my friends suggested like, bro,
00:56:52
Speaker 2: you are searching for a natural problem. Why don't you
00:56:54
Speaker 2: get in touch with this guy? And he gave his
00:56:56
Speaker 2: ID Facebook ID. So from through Facebook, I connected with
00:56:59
Speaker 2: uh this Shanti Kumar, I texted him, I am also
00:57:02
Speaker 2: looking for a platform where I can show my skills
00:57:05
Speaker 2: because I'm also in completely natural kind of thing. So
00:57:09
Speaker 2: he texted, he replied back so suddenly why don't you
00:57:13
Speaker 2: come first? He gave offer. It was happening in uh
00:57:15
Speaker 2: Dubai
00:57:17
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he gave. So in that time
00:57:19
Speaker 2: I NBA Mr O Lamia was held in Dubai. He
00:57:22
Speaker 2: gave the ticket while he gave the entry ticket. He
00:57:26
Speaker 2: said come on a competitor but uh I was not ready.
00:57:29
Speaker 2: I was like a little confused till that. I never
00:57:32
Speaker 2: uh uh get got on this airplane also. So I
00:57:36
Speaker 2: was not aware like how
00:57:39
Speaker 2: this airlines work so how I can manage traveling alone.
00:57:42
Speaker 2: So I said no better. Like next time we will
00:57:45
Speaker 2: do so again, next time it happened in India itself,
00:57:48
Speaker 2: Manipur 2016, it was India level.
00:57:52
Speaker 2: So he himself came to Manipur and he conducted uh
00:57:57
Speaker 2: from his his side I NBA mister India again, he
00:58:01
Speaker 2: texted me Sanju. We are you know we are doing
00:58:03
Speaker 2: in Manipur. Are you interested? I said to let this
00:58:06
Speaker 2: time we won't miss and until that the transformation was
00:58:09
Speaker 2: going on and I was in peak
00:58:12
Speaker 2: a peak condition. I wasn't in peak condition that I
00:58:14
Speaker 2: booked a flight tickets. So I started then I got
00:58:18
Speaker 2: idea that airlines will help a person with disability to
00:58:24
Speaker 2: get in the plane, get out of plane if required.
00:58:26
Speaker 2: So in India level, I didn't use any help of
00:58:29
Speaker 2: uh airlines. I managed myself,
00:58:32
Speaker 2: I gone there. I won uh Indian title Mr India
00:58:36
Speaker 2: title on PH category. So I my weight was that
00:58:40
Speaker 2: time 48 kg that much on peak. I was completely,
00:58:45
Speaker 2: I can say my body fat percentage was six or 77,
00:58:49
Speaker 2: I guess
00:58:50
Speaker 2: under 10, it was, yeah, like a tremendous uh transformation.
00:58:55
Speaker 2: First time I transformed myself and it was like that.
00:58:58
Speaker 2: So I came back after that, I never stopped again.
00:59:01
Speaker 2: I thought of uh going to again one more next year.
00:59:06
Speaker 2: It happened in Bangalore in my NBA mister India Indian level.
00:59:10
Speaker 2: So again, I competed there. After that,
00:59:13
Speaker 2: I thought of going some like international kind of thing.
00:59:16
Speaker 2: So next invitation was for I NBA Mystery Asia Pacific,
00:59:21
Speaker 2: which was happening in Seoul, Korea, South Korea. That time
00:59:26
Speaker 2: I made my mind. I have to do this. I
00:59:28
Speaker 2: will travel alone. Let's let's take the challenge. Let's see
00:59:32
Speaker 2: what happens. So I decided to go and I manage myself.
00:59:37
Speaker 2: I made my mind. Let's go. First time it was
00:59:40
Speaker 2: a
00:59:40
Speaker 2: uh I was traveling alone and the two other country
00:59:44
Speaker 2: I applied for visa. I got visa.
00:59:46
Speaker 2: I managed to travel alone. I gone to Korea. I
00:59:50
Speaker 2: competed there after coming from there next year. Next to milestone,
00:59:55
Speaker 2: I was thinking C Asia Pacific is done. Let's go
00:59:59
Speaker 2: to the end stage of I NBA. It's Mister Olympia.
01:00:02
Speaker 2: It will be end stage. It is the biggest stage.
01:00:05
Speaker 2: It is uh every year in normal December, it happens.
01:00:08
Speaker 2: So all this small small competition they will select from
01:00:11
Speaker 2: this small competition. And the end stage will be that.
01:00:15
Speaker 2: So I made a mind this year. Let's go for
01:00:18
Speaker 2: ID and Mr Olympia in 2019 by God gave, I
01:00:23
Speaker 2: got a chance to travel in us. And that time also,
01:00:25
Speaker 2: I was alone,
01:00:28
Speaker 2: I travel alone. I go there, there, our Indian team
01:00:32
Speaker 2: was there.
01:00:33
Speaker 2: We are for six people.
01:00:36
Speaker 2: And I won the title in my category.
01:00:43
Speaker 1: I'm a guy who couldn't get out of the bed
01:00:45
Speaker 1: to someone I want to know, travel thousands of miles
01:00:50
Speaker 1: and also go and win a competition. That's an amazing journey.
01:00:55
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you um
01:00:58
Speaker 1: what are the lessons which you learned in this transformation
01:01:06
Speaker 1: which you'll uh you know, take, you know, carry for
01:01:08
Speaker 1: life and with something which you want to offer to
01:01:11
Speaker 1: other people.
01:01:13
Speaker 2: 23 lines uh others. So long back, I read this
01:01:18
Speaker 2: char champions, two line quotation.
01:01:21
Speaker 2: Nothing is permanent.
01:01:23
Speaker 2: That thing impacted me like anything, nothing is permanent. Not
01:01:27
Speaker 2: even your problems, everything has to say and everything has
01:01:30
Speaker 2: to go. So that thing, whenever something happens to me,
01:01:34
Speaker 2: I always think, yeah, this situation will pass,
01:01:37
Speaker 2: keep faith on yourself, believe in yourself, try to push,
01:01:41
Speaker 2: try to push yourself and uh push uh to that
01:01:46
Speaker 2: extent that it will become a habit for you and
01:01:50
Speaker 2: you can be like uh not living with the h
01:01:52
Speaker 2: without that.
01:01:53
Speaker 2: So this thing happened with me, I pushed myself, I
01:01:56
Speaker 2: pushed myself again and again. And again, I failed that.
01:01:59
Speaker 2: I joined gym. My first six months, no result, second
01:02:03
Speaker 2: six months, no result, two years, no results still. I
01:02:05
Speaker 2: was pushing, do it, do it. OK. It will happen.
01:02:11
Speaker 2: So this thing like uh believing in ourselves, pushing ourselves
01:02:17
Speaker 2: and uh
01:02:18
Speaker 2: keeping feet
01:02:21
Speaker 2: persistent and I'll just remember these two lines. Nothing is permanent,
01:02:26
Speaker 2: whatever the problem it has to end.
01:02:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to.
01:02:32
Speaker 1: Ok, send you. Um,
01:02:35
Speaker 1: there may be two people who may be having some
01:02:37
Speaker 1: kind of disability. Uh What do you want to tell
01:02:41
Speaker 1: those people
01:02:44
Speaker 1: how, how they can come out of their difficult times
01:02:49
Speaker 1: or let's say they may be in this victimhood box
01:02:52
Speaker 1: still in that victimhood box. So what do you want
01:02:56
Speaker 1: to tell them and how they can come out of
01:02:58
Speaker 1: it and go on to achieve something like you have
01:03:02
Speaker 1: done it?
01:03:03
Speaker 2: So who will be like uh facing some kind of
01:03:06
Speaker 2: uh problem others? I would always say like, don't focus
01:03:09
Speaker 2: on the problem instead of focusing on the problem, try
01:03:12
Speaker 2: to find solution if there is a problem. Definitely there
01:03:16
Speaker 2: will be a solution for it.
01:03:18
Speaker 2: What happened with me also, when I joined gym,
01:03:21
Speaker 2: I was unable to handle the machines, I was unable
01:03:25
Speaker 2: to take dumbbell from one place to another also. But
01:03:28
Speaker 2: what I did, I didn't give up, I didn't focus
01:03:31
Speaker 2: on the problem instead of that. I tried to search
01:03:34
Speaker 2: solution for that.
01:03:36
Speaker 2: And what happened? What was the end result, I altered
01:03:38
Speaker 2: the workout, everything like altered the workout as per my comfort.
01:03:43
Speaker 2: I even do dead lifts as per my comfort. I
01:03:46
Speaker 2: altered those things. So never give up believe in yourself
01:03:50
Speaker 2: and of change your focus from the problem to the solution.
01:03:54
Speaker 2: It will be, it will be so easy. Then you
01:03:58
Speaker 2: think like uh if you focus on problem, definitely you
01:04:02
Speaker 2: will have more problems and problems will come to you.
01:04:05
Speaker 2: So this is the thing I can say. Instead of problems,
01:04:08
Speaker 2: search for solution solution will be there. Only
01:04:11
Speaker 2: after you finding out you will be like surprised to
01:04:13
Speaker 2: see that. How easily is the solution you got for that?
01:04:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's a great advice san. So instead of
01:04:20
Speaker 1: being problem focused, you have to be solu solution solution focused.
01:04:24
Speaker 1: And this is something I also, you know, keep telling
01:04:26
Speaker 1: my uh clients that um OK, there is a problem
01:04:31
Speaker 1: you don't have time or let's say you have less time,
01:04:34
Speaker 1: you have time crunch. What is the solution? Right? A
01:04:38
Speaker 1: lot of people, OK. People who are not disabled, being
01:04:42
Speaker 1: disabled is a very big problem and it affects your
01:04:44
Speaker 1: mind
01:04:45
Speaker 1: uh much more profoundly than a normal person and normal
01:04:49
Speaker 1: issues like time crunch and family, stuff like that. What
01:04:53
Speaker 1: I tell my clients is focus on solution. What can
01:04:57
Speaker 1: you do
01:04:59
Speaker 1: if there is a problem? And if you, I also
01:05:03
Speaker 1: tell this, if there is a problem
01:05:05
Speaker 1: and then you do nothing to solve that problem. It
01:05:07
Speaker 1: becomes an excuse, excuse and your excuses are uh authentic
01:05:12
Speaker 1: and uh, they are true because they are problems. And uh,
01:05:16
Speaker 1: once you accept those, then you stay where you are right?
01:05:20
Speaker 1: But only when you try to solve those problems, you
01:05:24
Speaker 1: are not making an excuse. You are, you know,
01:05:27
Speaker 1: and if you do it
01:05:29
Speaker 1: and believe me, if you do it,
01:05:32
Speaker 1: it will, I know if you look for a solution,
01:05:35
Speaker 1: you will find a solution. If you look for problems,
01:05:39
Speaker 1: you will find problems and you have excuses, right? Ok.
01:05:44
Speaker 1: So
01:05:46
Speaker 1: one more question, San you,
01:05:49
Speaker 1: how would you advise any person to uh, be disciplined
01:05:54
Speaker 1: and to have this drive in the fitness journey? Like
01:05:59
Speaker 1: someone who is uh finding it difficult to maintain his
01:06:04
Speaker 1: fitness routine or exercise and diet. Uh What advice would
01:06:08
Speaker 1: you like to give that person
01:06:11
Speaker 2: so to maintain a discipline? Uh I, I would say
01:06:14
Speaker 2: everything come
01:06:16
Speaker 2: by putting the things in priority. So that is the
01:06:19
Speaker 2: first thing you have to work. What is the priority?
01:06:23
Speaker 2: Are you keeping your health on a first priority or
01:06:26
Speaker 2: in the least priority? So what most people do? So
01:06:29
Speaker 2: I always suggest people to keep their health in a
01:06:32
Speaker 2: first priority because that is the base, that is the
01:06:35
Speaker 2: base for your building. If that is strong, everything you
01:06:38
Speaker 2: can build like 10 floors, 20 floors and anything you
01:06:41
Speaker 2: can do in this world.
01:06:42
Speaker 2: But if you are keeping your health in the least
01:06:44
Speaker 2: priority and there's something happens to you. It's like it
01:06:49
Speaker 2: will be difficult to build a building. Ok. So priority
01:06:55
Speaker 2: of once you uh keep your health on the first
01:06:57
Speaker 2: priority automatically, you will find out time automatically, you will
01:07:01
Speaker 2: be disciplined. Everything will be positive.
01:07:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sanjiv, thank you for that advice. So, um
01:07:13
Speaker 1: uh what are your plans in future?
01:07:16
Speaker 1: And uh uh currently if I'm not wrong, you are
01:07:20
Speaker 1: running one gym or two gyms
01:07:23
Speaker 2: right now? One gym, two gyms are two gyms, but
01:07:27
Speaker 2: we are planning to make combine the two and make
01:07:30
Speaker 2: a big fun gym.
01:07:31
Speaker 1: Ok. You're in Hyderabad or in your village hometown?
01:07:36
Speaker 2: I'm in Hyderabad. It's outskirts of Hyderabad. It's, it will
01:07:39
Speaker 2: be like 20 kilometers from sad.
01:07:42
Speaker 2: It almost it, it like uh became one city only now.
01:07:48
Speaker 1: The city has grown and engulfed your village. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK.
01:07:55
Speaker 1: So what are your future plans? Uh especially with the
01:07:58
Speaker 1: natural lifestyle hub?
01:08:02
Speaker 1: And uh so and why are you doing it? Like
01:08:05
Speaker 1: why are you going online and trying to help people
01:08:08
Speaker 1: to become fit and follow this natural lifestyle, uh you know,
01:08:14
Speaker 1: natural lifestyle.
01:08:17
Speaker 2: So
01:08:19
Speaker 2: did my complete perception of training change when I came
01:08:22
Speaker 2: to this community, others to it.
01:08:25
Speaker 2: So everything has changed like uh the what how do
01:08:28
Speaker 2: I used to think before? Everything? So I was helping
01:08:31
Speaker 2: people before also. OK, I was following these things. What
01:08:37
Speaker 2: uh now I'm learning in this, uh ih, I was
01:08:39
Speaker 2: on following from longside but uh it was not,
01:08:43
Speaker 2: we don't know like that is this thing like keeping
01:08:46
Speaker 2: uh uh believing in ourselves, keeping faith and follow, like
01:08:51
Speaker 2: achieving our passion. These things were there. But uh as
01:08:54
Speaker 2: I said to you, when I was only uh teaching
01:08:58
Speaker 2: on offline
01:09:00
Speaker 2: hardly. I used to train daily 5 to 6 climbs.
01:09:04
Speaker 2: Ok. After that, uh if you go more than that,
01:09:07
Speaker 2: you will be like burnt out. Uh, you will be
01:09:09
Speaker 2: exhausted
01:09:11
Speaker 2: and you can uh increase your reach. So your services
01:09:16
Speaker 2: will be restricted even financially. And uh if you cannot
01:09:20
Speaker 2: go in a broad uh impact wise. So in this
01:09:25
Speaker 2: impact wise also, so in this whole scenario, I met
01:09:31
Speaker 2: a guy in my gym. He joined my gym.
01:09:33
Speaker 2: He is also a trainer. He's a good certified trainer,
01:09:37
Speaker 2: but he's, he's training online since two or three years.
01:09:42
Speaker 2: He never take in person.
01:09:45
Speaker 2: I asked the same question why you are online? His
01:09:48
Speaker 2: name is Satish. Why you are teaching online? Why you
01:09:51
Speaker 2: don't take uh in person? So he also gives same
01:09:54
Speaker 2: thing if I go for in person by how many
01:09:57
Speaker 2: people can I train? How many people can I serve?
01:10:00
Speaker 2: It will be restricted. The impact will be for very
01:10:03
Speaker 2: like small group or for a small group of people.
01:10:06
Speaker 2: So that's why I choose online where
01:10:09
Speaker 2: I can reach more people. I can serve more people.
01:10:13
Speaker 2: And
01:10:15
Speaker 2: what when the result is that I can also live
01:10:18
Speaker 2: my life really?
01:10:20
Speaker 2: So that thing inspired me and uh that thing click me.
01:10:24
Speaker 2: Why don't I, why shouldn't I also do that?
01:10:27
Speaker 2: Why shouldn't I also think in a broadway, why should
01:10:30
Speaker 2: I be like in the town with a small group
01:10:34
Speaker 2: of people? Um So that I can also like uh
01:10:39
Speaker 2: do my service, like I can elaborate my service like
01:10:42
Speaker 2: on a wider
01:10:43
Speaker 2: uh range and uh to reach more people, reach more,
01:10:47
Speaker 2: uh give my services to more people. So this thing
01:10:50
Speaker 2: all came in mind, I I also thought of going online.
01:10:53
Speaker 2: So after that, I was searching for a good mentor
01:10:56
Speaker 2: and came across it that and uh here what he
01:10:59
Speaker 2: thought like completely different. OK. So so many shifts happen
01:11:04
Speaker 2: in me. So that is the main reason others to
01:11:08
Speaker 2: reach more people
01:11:10
Speaker 2: to serve more people. Ok? Because whatever I faced, whatever
01:11:15
Speaker 2: I learned in this uh two decades, I want to
01:11:19
Speaker 2: share with people so that they can also uh improve
01:11:22
Speaker 2: their health, they can achieve their fitness. And uh if someone,
01:11:26
Speaker 2: at least if I inspire any one guy who has
01:11:29
Speaker 2: the same challenge like me, and if I'm able to
01:11:32
Speaker 2: change his life, that is more than enough for me,
01:11:36
Speaker 2: that is
01:11:37
Speaker 1: great. See, I'm also online for the same reason like,
01:11:42
Speaker 1: um how long you have been in the gym business,
01:11:46
Speaker 2: I, professionally, I can say since, uh, nine or 10 years.
01:11:50
Speaker 1: Ok. See I have been in the gym business for
01:11:52
Speaker 1: five years now. We just completed five years. And, uh,
01:11:56
Speaker 1: what I have, uh seen in this five years of
01:12:00
Speaker 1: journey is uh, no matter how well you do your job,
01:12:04
Speaker 1: no matter what kind of service you do, no matter
01:12:07
Speaker 1: how much you care about, uh, getting results to your
01:12:11
Speaker 1: customers or clients. I would say
01:12:15
Speaker 1: I have uh had more than 800 people come and
01:12:18
Speaker 1: go through the gym and through my online coaching,
01:12:22
Speaker 1: hardly few people, like maybe 20% people will actually uh
01:12:27
Speaker 1: get what you're saying and
01:12:29
Speaker 1: they will use it and get results. And uh
01:12:35
Speaker 1: few couple of years back, uh you know, I was,
01:12:39
Speaker 1: I went into kind of um
01:12:42
Speaker 1: I would not say depression because there is a different
01:12:45
Speaker 1: meaning to that, but I was frustrated and I was
01:12:48
Speaker 1: mentally starting to my mental health started getting affected. And
01:12:54
Speaker 1: uh you know, because you want to do good to people,
01:12:58
Speaker 1: you want to share your knowledge, you want to share
01:13:01
Speaker 1: uh the lifestyle which you uh you know, you, you
01:13:05
Speaker 1: have had and kind of transformation you have had, you
01:13:07
Speaker 1: want to share that experience with other people.
01:13:11
Speaker 1: And uh like I said earlier, it is not only
01:13:13
Speaker 1: physical transformation, it will change the person completely. If a
01:13:18
Speaker 1: person can go through a physical transformation, he will get
01:13:22
Speaker 1: other things as bonus, the confidence and self belief and, uh,
01:13:28
Speaker 1: you know, the belief that you can do something and
01:13:32
Speaker 1: get results out of it. This is what I'm trying
01:13:35
Speaker 1: to deliver. And, uh, here are people who are not
01:13:38
Speaker 1: taking it seriously. Right. And then, uh, that is, and
01:13:43
Speaker 1: apart from that financial conditions because of COVID and these
01:13:47
Speaker 1: heart attacks and stuff like that,
01:13:50
Speaker 1: I was forced to try something online and then I
01:13:53
Speaker 1: came online and uh it is true that when you
01:13:56
Speaker 1: are online and um you can create more awareness, you
01:14:00
Speaker 1: can reach thousands of people by just making one video
01:14:03
Speaker 1: or maybe millions of people at some point of time.
01:14:07
Speaker 1: Uh If you grow that to that level
01:14:10
Speaker 1: and you can impact more people, more people. That's all right.
01:14:14
Speaker 1: And uh like it's um
01:14:17
Speaker 1: it's not coincidence that you and me are here. It's
01:14:21
Speaker 1: not coincidence that you are also part of, uh you know,
01:14:25
Speaker 1: you are a part of ilh, it's not coincident that
01:14:28
Speaker 1: Siddharth is our common mentor. He has a mission and
01:14:33
Speaker 1: uh we have our own missions, right? And uh I
01:14:37
Speaker 1: truly believe in that destination. Uh And uh I, I
01:14:42
Speaker 1: truly believe in that destiny
01:14:44
Speaker 1: that we are here and uh there are, you know,
01:14:47
Speaker 1: good come good things to come in future. So, um
01:14:54
Speaker 1: uh
01:14:56
Speaker 1: specifically in natural lifestyle hub, what kind of people are,
01:14:59
Speaker 1: are you trying to help? And uh what are you
01:15:02
Speaker 1: doing exactly? So that people can understand and if, uh,
01:15:07
Speaker 1: they find it interesting they can get connected to you.
01:15:11
Speaker 2: So I'm open for everyone has, uh, others. But, uh,
01:15:15
Speaker 2: right now, like I am targeting, uh, people who are
01:15:18
Speaker 2: in corporate, uh, world because I came through that, uh, pain,
01:15:23
Speaker 2: I was a corporate employee. So how it was, it
01:15:26
Speaker 2: will be tough for them to, uh, take out time
01:15:30
Speaker 2: for fitness, how it's very tough for them to maintain
01:15:34
Speaker 2: their diet and uh how they will be addicted to
01:15:38
Speaker 2: all
01:15:39
Speaker 2: the wrong thing, how they will choose all wrong ways
01:15:41
Speaker 2: to keep themselves active at the workplace and to make
01:15:46
Speaker 2: themselves more productive in their work. So I'm targeting those
01:15:51
Speaker 2: people right now, but I'm open for everyone and even
01:15:54
Speaker 2: the train
01:15:55
Speaker 2: people who, uh, who the goal is to step on stage.
01:15:59
Speaker 2: I helped so many people to compete the competition in
01:16:03
Speaker 2: natural way. Ok. That thing will be there always, that
01:16:07
Speaker 2: is my, you can say word of honor, natural, be
01:16:11
Speaker 2: always natural. Ok. So right now I'm targeting corporate people.
01:16:17
Speaker 2: So I know the pain I was in their shoes
01:16:20
Speaker 2: few years back. So
01:16:22
Speaker 2: I want to help them how they can come out
01:16:25
Speaker 2: of how they can take out time. Actually, how can
01:16:28
Speaker 2: they can take out time for their fitness? How can
01:16:31
Speaker 2: they manage their health because the prolonged sitting, their job
01:16:34
Speaker 2: will be completely sedentary, prolonged hours of sitting due to
01:16:39
Speaker 2: which like a number of things, a number of uh
01:16:42
Speaker 2: health issues will be coming out. So this is a
01:16:45
Speaker 2: thing in my mind. Uh So right now targeting those area,
01:16:50
Speaker 2: those people first. And secondly, I am open for everyone.
01:16:54
Speaker 2: As I said, even I train people who want to
01:16:57
Speaker 2: gain muscle, who want to show off their skills on
01:17:00
Speaker 2: their on stage. So I'm ready to do that. Also,
01:17:04
Speaker 2: these are plans are
01:17:05
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, probably I might consider uh stepping on
01:17:09
Speaker 1: a bodybuilding stage in the future. But because my interest
01:17:12
Speaker 1: is in uh lifting heavier weights and uh I also
01:17:16
Speaker 1: competed in one powerlifting competition.
01:17:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. And uh for, I was injured for last uh
01:17:22
Speaker 1: you know, uh 55 months back, I was injured and
01:17:26
Speaker 1: I couldn't do the barbell lift, the squat and dead lift.
01:17:29
Speaker 1: And uh recently two weeks back, I started back and
01:17:32
Speaker 1: uh now I'm feeling alive like I was doing only
01:17:36
Speaker 1: bodybuilding specific, like not lifting barbells and all because my
01:17:39
Speaker 1: shoulder was injured. And uh now I'm feeling really alive and,
01:17:43
Speaker 1: you know, uh I'm feeling that energy in the gym. Yeah,
01:17:47
Speaker 1: but um
01:17:48
Speaker 1: uh maybe in future I might seek your coaching for
01:17:52
Speaker 1: stepping if that happens. Um Sanj
01:17:57
Speaker 2: and, and one more thing I want to add, I
01:17:59
Speaker 2: want to attract the youth for natural transformations.
01:18:04
Speaker 2: That is the main specialty of myself. That is the
01:18:07
Speaker 2: essence of mind training. So, because what people, even when
01:18:12
Speaker 2: a young guy was start attracting to bodybuilding when he
01:18:16
Speaker 2: wants to gain muscles or something. He do everything which
01:18:20
Speaker 2: shouldn't be done by a human. So I want to
01:18:24
Speaker 2: youth to attract this site where they can use their
01:18:29
Speaker 2: fitness skills to improve their health instead of spoiling their health.
01:18:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this is the thing.
01:18:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I'm terrified that even in this, you know,
01:18:39
Speaker 1: I'm living in Darva, which is a tier two city.
01:18:42
Speaker 1: Even in the gyms here, there is access to these
01:18:45
Speaker 1: kind of uh you know, steroids and uh tablets and
01:18:49
Speaker 1: a lot of people are taking it and they are
01:18:53
Speaker 1: on those instead of relying on the scientific way of
01:18:56
Speaker 1: building muscle and nutrition. And uh I'm terrified that
01:19:01
Speaker 1: uh this is a industry of uh glamour. People see
01:19:06
Speaker 1: you see your physique and then they believe that you
01:19:08
Speaker 1: can get you, they can get you the results and
01:19:10
Speaker 1: I am going to myself as a gym owner. It's
01:19:14
Speaker 1: very difficult to convince people that, ok, there is a
01:19:17
Speaker 1: natural way, ok, there is, you have to take care
01:19:19
Speaker 1: of your diet and nutrition and lifestyle, which is very
01:19:23
Speaker 1: hard to sell and that is what I'm finding difficult.
01:19:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, times are improving. There is more awareness.
01:19:29
Speaker 1: There are also people um like you said, like you said,
01:19:34
Speaker 1: you started watching Gruma and all. Now there is access
01:19:37
Speaker 1: to a lot of uh information online. But um we
01:19:41
Speaker 1: have to, I have to point it out that um
01:19:46
Speaker 1: if there is a platform to amplify good, there is
01:19:49
Speaker 1: a platform to amplify bad. Also, like if you go
01:19:53
Speaker 1: on the internet nowadays, there is so much of bad
01:19:55
Speaker 1: advice also. And that is why people have to get
01:19:58
Speaker 1: connected to coaches and trainers who are educated and who
01:20:03
Speaker 1: are doing good work and who have good intention.
01:20:07
Speaker 1: Of course, making money is a need for everybody. But
01:20:11
Speaker 1: there is uh some uh
01:20:13
Speaker 1: there is some work and ethics and mission, a person
01:20:19
Speaker 1: is driven, you know, if that person is driven by
01:20:22
Speaker 1: these things and Sanju is one of those persons. And
01:20:26
Speaker 1: San now I would like you to share how can
01:20:30
Speaker 1: people connect with you
01:20:35
Speaker 2: so they can follow me on my social media Pradesh.
01:20:39
Speaker 2: So regular on regular basis, I keep on posting some
01:20:42
Speaker 2: kind of videos
01:20:45
Speaker 2: nowadays, I'm very consistent on that. So they can text
01:20:48
Speaker 2: me on my social media on my Instagram handle it.
01:20:52
Speaker 2: It's easy to find out just how to type my
01:20:53
Speaker 2: name Saner Kali, even my youtube also have my name
01:20:57
Speaker 2: San Kali Alla Facebook also. So any any platform I'm active,
01:21:02
Speaker 2: they can text me anytime if anybody need any kind
01:21:05
Speaker 2: of help or if they feel stuck in their journeys.
01:21:09
Speaker 2: So I'm always there to help you.
01:21:11
Speaker 1: Yes, great, Sanju. I'll um make sure that all your
01:21:14
Speaker 1: social media links are there in the description and when
01:21:18
Speaker 1: you come up with your own website and stuff like that.
01:21:20
Speaker 1: You please update me. I'll also update that in the
01:21:23
Speaker 1: description below this podcast. Uh I would urge people who
01:21:29
Speaker 1: are in Hyderabad. If you're listening to this, you go
01:21:32
Speaker 1: and get in touch with Sanjeev 1 to 1 basis
01:21:35
Speaker 1: in a physical setting.
01:21:38
Speaker 1: And, uh if you're a person working in corporate job
01:21:42
Speaker 1: and if you want to take care of health and
01:21:44
Speaker 1: fitness and want someone who can guide you who has
01:21:48
Speaker 1: been through that journey and, uh,
01:21:52
Speaker 1: whom you can believe. Because if you listen to this
01:21:55
Speaker 1: podcast or watch this pod podcast, you know, that Sanju
01:21:59
Speaker 1: comes with a certain kind of, uh background and he
01:22:03
Speaker 1: has this mission to help people which is authentic and
01:22:08
Speaker 1: who truly cares about other people. They definitely get connected
01:22:12
Speaker 1: with Sanju
01:22:14
Speaker 1: and that brings us to the end of this podcast, Sanju.
01:22:19
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful that you came here. And, uh, time
01:22:23
Speaker 1: flew by, we almost spent 1.5 hours talking Sanju is it. And, um,
01:22:30
Speaker 1: one last thing I want from you is before we
01:22:32
Speaker 1: part away from this episode.
01:22:36
Speaker 1: Why I'm saying this is because I'll bring you on,
01:22:39
Speaker 1: on some other, you know, episode again with a more
01:22:43
Speaker 1: specific and detailed podcast related to bodybuilding and stuff like that.
01:22:48
Speaker 1: Um
01:22:50
Speaker 1: What do you want? What message do you want to
01:22:53
Speaker 1: leave our listeners with?
01:22:56
Speaker 1: If there is one message, if you have, let's say
01:22:59
Speaker 1: 30 seconds
01:23:02
Speaker 1: to give a life lesson.
01:23:05
Speaker 1: What would you say
01:23:07
Speaker 1: that
01:23:08
Speaker 2: starts now? That thing which always the others believe in yourself,
01:23:13
Speaker 2: believe so strong, believe strongly and uh take the actions
01:23:18
Speaker 2: like it never will always keep faith, believe in yourself
01:23:21
Speaker 2: and blindly follow your passion, success will come to you.
01:23:25
Speaker 2: So don't give up so soon. Give a try, believe
01:23:30
Speaker 2: in you. So life will be like like a journey.
01:23:33
Speaker 2: Don't uh think it as a destination.
01:23:36
Speaker 2: So failure will be a part of your journey. Try fail,
01:23:40
Speaker 2: try fail, try fail. One day you will be successful. Wow,
01:23:45
Speaker 1: amazing San. I would like to improve upon that. San
01:23:48
Speaker 1: if you, if you may allow me, uh don't try fail,
01:23:52
Speaker 1: don't do this. Try fail, try fail, try fail. Find
01:23:56
Speaker 1: someone who can help you, find someone who has done
01:23:58
Speaker 1: what you going to do and uh invest your money,
01:24:02
Speaker 1: time and energy
01:24:04
Speaker 1: and take other advice from Sanjiv. If you are and
01:24:08
Speaker 1: find someone who will believe in yourself and will support
01:24:11
Speaker 1: in your journey and your life will be much more, much,
01:24:16
Speaker 1: much better and you will not regret the investment of time,
01:24:19
Speaker 1: money and effort you put.
01:24:22
Speaker 1: Thanks for that. Thank you Sanju. Thank you so much
01:24:25
Speaker 1: for the show and I'll definitely want to have you
01:24:28
Speaker 1: on the show once again with the more specific topic
01:24:31
Speaker 1: related to fitness and bodybuilding. Definitely, that will be a
01:24:35
Speaker 1: nice one to have the next one. So again, thank you.
01:24:38
Speaker 1: So much Sanju and it's my pleasure to see you
01:24:41
Speaker 2: again. Thank you. Thanks a lot for inviting me.