Ep 235- Ek Ladka Ek Ladki

[00:00:00] Hi, this is Asim. This is Sujoy. This is Amrita. And you're listening to Khandaan- A Bollywood Podcast about the three main Khans of the Hindi film industry. Amir, Salman and Shahrukh. Hi, you're listening to Khandaan- A Bollywood Podcast regular feed. Thank you so much for

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[00:00:42] better content. Visit us at patreon.com slash khandaan podcast. Hi and welcome to a new episode of Khandaan Podcast. My name is Asim Berni and I'm joined with my lovely co-host Sujoy and Amrita. Hey everybody. Hello. How are you guys feeling?

[00:01:03] Tired. I can't believe it's only been like it's I was just I was at lunch today with a friend and we were just saying that you know like I can't believe it's been less than a week

[00:01:14] since the election results came out in India it feels like like an eternity has passed already. Well I want to keep the election talk for the other podcasts because I think this will we're recording this now but this will get posted later we're going to do another podcast

[00:01:30] before we're going to do Rang De Basanti and that's going to come before so let's keep the election talk for that because I think we'll have a lot to talk about there. This episode

[00:01:39] we're doing Ek Larka Ek Larki like I just mentioned and this is a special dedication to our friend and patron Hanisha who's moving back to Dubai from London. It was lovely to have her

[00:01:50] for a while but she's off to new adventures and we asked you know as a parting gift what can we review and she picked Ek Larka Ek Larki under extreme duress because we were in a restaurant

[00:02:02] nobody could get desserts there was no chai and we were like pick a movie now like we were pulling IMDB up like which movie we haven't covered so we landed on Ek Larka Ek Larki

[00:02:14] and Amrita we actually walked to a chai chaiwala this time again again of course there was no chai at the end of that I bet there was there was there was there was this time there was chai

[00:02:29] but we were also all sober so that does also changes things. Asking is like the gandalf of the khandaan podcast and he's like constantly telling people that they should walk across England in search of like some mystical broom and there's like nothing when we end up

[00:02:49] the fellowship of the chai of the non-existent chai yeah it's it we were talking about there's a new thing in London now that there's a lot of like desi chai places that wasn't around like

[00:03:01] a couple years ago. This is what Asim says but to this date I have never seen one of these new chai places that he's talking about constantly saying oh there is one in that neighborhood it's great we'll walk to and then

[00:03:15] two hours later we'll hand up over there and it's like it's closed because it's tuesday like what kind of rubbish place is that? I love that Amrita is still mad about it you can hear the anger

[00:03:28] in the voice it wasn't even once it was multiple times. I love it I know you need to come back I'll make you do more tricks which I like I make it at home

[00:03:46] speaking of things or tricks I was watching a bit of um like uh Shah Rukh Khan and Salman Khan songs this morning and uh the tiger three songs came up and I was like watching them I was like

[00:03:59] was I too harsh on that movie? This actually is quite good like like the the leke Prabhu ka naam thing you saw Sahay? You're like Salman look how good he looks like look at Katrina man she's dancing

[00:04:15] on a mountain. This is what happens when like yeah it's called like having standards and then like you see what other kind of shit is coming up. That's it yeah exactly. Now that you've seen Bariniya, Chhote Miya and her you're like wow tiger three. What a cinematic masterpiece

[00:04:40] like a decently shot like there was a shot like he's in the um she's in the hut in Switzerland and the there's the door is open and Salman just walks back and you have like

[00:04:52] mountains behind him like the Swiss mountains and I was like that's a beautiful shot. I was just impressed with a competent shot like that's where we are in cinema at the moment. Yeah sad times to be speaking of songs though since we are talking about Eklarka Eklarki

[00:05:08] I went into this movie fully hoping the rain song to appear. I watched the entire movie I knew there was a rain song with Neelam in this movie and that did not turn up

[00:05:24] and the only song that I could recognize from this movie was Kittana Pyaar Tumhe Kartay Hai. Right and then after the movie I went and searched for that song and then I realized it was not

[00:05:37] in in this movie in Eklarka Hai Larki Tip Tip. Tip Baresh is from Afsana Pyaar Ka with Aamir Khan and Neelam. So I watched this whole movie thinking what happened to that rain song with Neelam.

[00:05:55] No but there is one in which like there is one song in this in which Neelam gets wet in the rain. I thought that's the one that you were talking about. No I don't know. You you

[00:06:06] basically had what I had when we were doing a Manmohan Desai movie. Neelam had a moment in time when she acted with both the Khans you know Aamir and Salman. I don't know well she did a cameo in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai right with the Neelam show

[00:06:26] but that was it yeah. Let's get into it let's get into Eklarka Ek Larki a movie that came out in 1992 a remake of Goldie Hawn's Overboard. It's basically Neelam is a rich arrogant heiress

[00:06:43] who gets amnesia and then Salman Khan puts her in his house and forces her to take care of his kids as revenge for her breaking his eggs and then so much metaphor. I have the layers of the screen writing.

[00:07:10] End up falling in love and she gives her up her riches to take care of these three kids that's basically the story and I'm telling you this because I don't think a lot of people know about this movie. I don't think a lot of people remember this movie.

[00:07:26] I think this is one of those vague memories of people that oh I watched this like you know 30 years ago and I remember it being good then right but Amrita what were your thoughts

[00:07:40] revisiting it 30 years later. So I am one of those people that didn't like it even 30 years ago like I don't like Overboard like I don't like the original like the Goldie Hawn Kurt

[00:07:52] Russell movie I don't like it like the whole taming of the shrew theme is my least favorite in any type of literature like I don't like it. I don't like taming of the shrew as a play

[00:08:04] I don't really care for it as a theme in books or in cinema and Overboard in particular is just like very 70s in a and that is not a compliment like it's is definitely a derogatory

[00:08:19] thing I don't like it. The human ever connected with me and I didn't like it when Madonna and Guy Ritchie made it I didn't like it like I don't like any of the versions of

[00:08:31] Overboard and this one is no exception like I didn't like it but I had forgotten how 90s this movie is. I had forgotten and that I greatly enjoyed like I enjoyed it so much

[00:08:49] and we will discuss that at length. Sujoy what about you? Do you like taming shrews? I'm the least read in person on this podcast right so I have no connection to taming of the

[00:09:03] shrew. Overboard I barely managed to catch like the first 20-30 minutes to just to see the universe of this that movie and I thought it was so camp and but also like the charm of

[00:09:18] Kurt Russell and the fieryness of Goldie Hawn just worked for me in that like you can tell in which sort of pitch that movie is operating and that the drama and the sassiness of both of

[00:09:31] those characters just worked for me maybe I'll continue watching it and find myself wrong of how that story evolves because obviously that movie sort of informs this a cleric a cleric and a cleric a cleric as such I have I realized that I had never seen this movie

[00:09:49] yeah this is my first time watching anything to do with this movie except for that where did you watch it? YouTube I think yeah also yeah it's available on YouTube right

[00:10:01] I don't know if I had subtitles or not. I don't think so no yeah yeah it's one of those I think it's really one of those forgotten movies that like probably doesn't even even

[00:10:11] have subtitles so I think a lot of people might have trouble watching it but maybe you can you know play it on YouTube and then put your earphones on and watch listen to Overboard at

[00:10:24] the same time and try to sync up both movies and figure it out that way that could be your skip the songs yeah exactly um I mean I remember this movie fondly from back in the time and

[00:10:39] I think a lot of our listeners will be in that zone where they have fond memories of this but re-watching it I had a lot of trouble with this movie because I'm not that same person that I

[00:10:51] was 30 years ago and you know like I am much more aware of things that I was back in that back in that era and also just a lot of cinematic conventions have changed right like

[00:11:03] this is basically the cinema we lost when we became woke Amrita this is what happened you know you know this is our sanskar yeah we can't even trick an amnesiac woman into taking care

[00:11:18] of our three gande gande bache forcing her to work on our andoka farm you know like we can't even teach a woman a lesson now you know like what have we lost like what is what are our

[00:11:31] traditions you know um so this this movie is like a little bit and this I'd forgotten it's a little bit of Mr. India and a little bit of satya satya right yeah yeah both of those

[00:11:45] vibes in it and uh but very very low by way of by way of Feroz Khan because they are all in a farm somewhere there's a horse there's a dog there's a monkey and obviously Khetibadi

[00:11:59] and all of that like Salman is having so much fun in this farm yeah the thing is like Salman is a very young guy at this moment right I think this is probably the first time he actually

[00:12:10] was on a farm and he was like this is actually fun I'm going to spend a lot of time in farms now and that's when he ended up with the panvel plan I think this is where the panvel plan

[00:12:20] you know was started like this eight larka and ladki um yeah it's it's I think it was a tough watch for me to sit through this time I feel one of the problems is like I just can't

[00:12:33] get into the comedy of it I just also don't think Salman and Neelam have any chemistry together like we talk about this now right Salman has no chemistry with his leads and this

[00:12:44] is the first time I saw this in young Salman now it's like I don't think they even like each other you know like they're like completely in different zones and in different

[00:12:52] movies there is no chemistry whatsoever at least in my opinion I don't know what do you think? Yeah so I think yeah you're right in that it's Salman very early on became the kind of person

[00:13:05] where you can immediately tell when he likes somebody or if he's into them right like with Aishwarya you knew you watched Hamdil Dechu Kehan Sanam and you knew he was 150% into her right it was just like very palpable um and it's interesting to me that uh Sujoy was

[00:13:29] talking earlier on about overboard and the the tension between Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn because the sexual tension is basically the foundation of overboard as a story you know like it's yes it's the story of this man who's like tricking this woman because he doesn't

[00:13:49] like her but at its core it's about a man who doesn't like this woman but is incredibly attracted to her and it's about this woman who doesn't understand why she's not supposed to

[00:14:03] like this man which is like has a conscious telling her but is also really attracted to him and they have this incredible sexual chemistry and tension between those two characters that

[00:14:16] just like sort of builds and builds and builds and in this one I don't know if I agree that Salman doesn't like Neelam I think Salman is basically treating her as if she's his kid sister yeah exactly yeah like he already has the um energy in this time

[00:14:42] like you can marry the dumpy guy I am too hot like that's basically what Salman is vibing there's like all these songs where like they're supposed to be this cute little copper and he's all but giving her like a tapli on her head yeah

[00:15:01] he wants to only spend time with the kids yeah exactly you know he only cares about the kids and the murgi and the ande he does not care about Neelam whatsoever can we also talk about Salman's wardrobe because he has this excellent outfit ask him you're the clothes

[00:15:24] horse of this podcast please tell us about the outfit I was watching the outfits and I realized this is the only outfits of Salman that I did not copy the only order except in the songs

[00:15:38] certain shirts that he's wearing that I did have that Salman was wearing because those are a little pretty cool yeah he was wearing the belt because those are dream sequences right those were like

[00:15:49] all fantasy songs so he was wearing those uh shirts which had embroidery on the shoulders and on the collars which I had I had like a purple one with like a beige embroidery on it

[00:16:00] and he was also wearing like really big bell bottom uh trousers which is super cool too which I'm looking for now if everywhere anybody knows there are good baggy trousers

[00:16:11] in beige I'm looking for one at the moment so yeah uh yes but the look that you want to talk about is his farmer look right he's banyan on leather vest and indiana jones looks what he's wearing

[00:16:41] this came out of the pen of Feroz Khan as I said yeah I mean I cannot begin to tell like like there is no way that words can do proper justice to this outfit like it is something that

[00:16:54] you have to see for yourself I highly encourage everybody to go to youtube and at least watch like a song like if you don't want to see the entire movie watch a song but guy I do get it

[00:17:08] like this is the thing me and Salman we vibe we vibe together we share ideas you know like the thing is you know and I'll explain to you what happened here right it was ramzan like a

[00:17:20] month ago like you know for me like I was fasting and it had an effect on my body I couldn't work out and stuff like that right it happens I slowly am getting back into the gym right and

[00:17:31] you know I'm doing like full body workouts and like arms and things like that and like you might have noticed I posted some pictures yesterday which were very strategically where my arm looks huge you think it's just an innocent picture right but the arm looks huge you know

[00:17:58] and when you do that just naturally you need to unleash the guns you know so this was salman when he was after an arm workout like that's what it that's what I did not know your game

[00:18:12] is also here in this picture yeah I have this I have this such a strong memory of us and his wife just like walking you know it's like a drizzling in uh in London like April

[00:18:34] and the two of them looking like incredibly Parisian and like you know just really well walking across the courtyard at like Somerset house and now I'm just imagining like his wife looking just as beautiful as usual and

[00:19:09] just to confirm I was not wearing a tank top and then let's just do like send the record straight this is imagination it's I have some connection with other Salman movies that we have talked about this move

[00:19:39] on this podcast and that is the first time I think we started talking about the running theme of you know nipples and everything is a Salman movie where we start talking about race

[00:19:50] three right with Bobby Deol and the nipple verse started with race three and here when we get introduced to this world of the of the barn right the kids and Salman and then the yeah and and there is the the other guy Choo Choo Chachu

[00:20:13] and he's played by Salim Khan Ding Dong who yeah that's his name on this IMDB page Salim Khan Ding Dong because he was ding dong in hero right which is an unfortunate name because

[00:20:25] you know what ding dong means but it's unfortunate because his name is Choo Choo in this movie and in Manipuri slang I just want to point out that Sujoy has been talking for like five minutes and in five minutes he's gone to like 50 different places without talking

[00:20:50] anyway okay so Choo Choo Chachu what about Choo Choo in Manipuri slang means breasts okay okay and then don't spare calling him Choo Choo Chachu throughout the movie and I'm like

[00:21:02] rolling laughing whenever he shows up and then in one scene he's like he's I don't know for what reason he's got his top off right and he's and he's got boobs and when we start body shaming I'm not body shaming but

[00:21:29] I'm dying laughing during that movie there now during the scene but coming back to the kids like you know like these kids there's three kids they got no direction they just let them run

[00:21:40] wild they don't tell them where the camera is where to look and stuff like that yeah I think they just also just call them Chotu Motu and Arbaaz I think you know like and immediately there's way too much child nudity going on in this bar like

[00:21:55] this is an unsanitary unsafe situation for these kids um yeah it's and clearly he likes the last bacha like someone really likes the last bacha he doesn't care for the other two

[00:22:07] the Motu and the big one Arbaaz he only cares for that little one and I thought it was sweet because you can see it that Salman and him connect and he even had like a role as

[00:22:18] a kind of a police officer in one of Salman's recent movies so they still have a relationship together like 32 years later so that's kind of sweet right but Chotu also played the young Shah Rukh in Bazigarh right I don't know yeah same actor but because we are talking

[00:22:40] about you know references I do also think that this movie is in the shared like the same airport through which Karisma and Raveena came the same airport through which Neelam came yeah so here are my things why this is a you know shared universe um

[00:23:01] first of all Salman Khan is very Prem Khurrana coded right he looks like Dr Prem Khurrana very much he runs a Andoka farm which is Rish Rawal's dream right um the journalists ask very

[00:23:18] inappropriate questions to a girl that just came from the U.S. yeah again Andaz Apna Apna and Neelam is Thilu yeah and you've forgotten Tikku Talsanya as the cop as the cop yeah who is acting

[00:23:36] as this is what's his name Tikku Talsanya always acts and I remember that I do not like Tikku Talsanya at all and Andaz Apna is the only film that I can like appreciate him in I do not like

[00:23:54] him I do not like him at all like when I say I don't like Johnny Reaver I don't know like Tikku Talsanya they were really like pushing that one oh and that guy right

[00:24:09] yeah yeah he's also there so also the the funniest thing about this movie is that the producer's name is Didi Yande god bless so yeah Ek Larka Ek Larki is Andaz Apna Apna shared universe we have established this

[00:24:32] um I don't know again like I don't want to make this like a whole uh you know men's rights feminist take on this movie yeah but I also have to add this because I did feel and this

[00:24:46] is the thing I don't know if you've been noticing this have you watched the trad wife thing on the internet lately no uh okay so let me explain to Sujoy there's this thing about

[00:24:59] uh conservative women on the internet going back to a very like uh patriarchal life my husband he's earning money so I have to bake bread by grinding my own flour and then you know

[00:25:16] making my own chocolate from scratch to you know um to make him a chocolate cake and it takes like seven weeks to actually make that chocolate cake but they're doing everything from scratch

[00:25:29] I don't know if you've seen those videos I'm gonna who is that girl that kind of started that thing is Nara yeah Nara Smith uh she's like this black woman who's married to this white

[00:25:39] Mormon guy so when uh Asim says you know women on the internet it's primarily American women and specifically like Mormons um so and I don't think a lot of people quite understand just how

[00:25:56] expensive that life's fucking is so uh I know there's like a lot of people out there who are just like oh like you know this would be I think there's been an uptick in a lot of people

[00:26:08] being like oh you know like the the man will go out and like have a job and then the woman will stay home and like make the home and I'm like with what money exactly yeah yeah and

[00:26:18] I think it's just one of those insane you know men's fantasy that we're kind of playing out where you know I'm gonna put you in a hut away from everybody you know all of your family

[00:26:32] all of your friends and you bake my bread from scratch you know you take care of my kids that are actually not even his her kids he's tricking her into believing that she's the mom

[00:26:43] of these three kids which is such an evil thing to do when you think about it like when you think about it take away the comedic setup of it it is such an evil thing to make

[00:26:52] somebody and he's also basically saying you know we had the first one when you were 12 or 13 years old yeah that was like dude like what like who wrote this like how was that even like you know

[00:27:02] a funny kind of setup in that time you know and it's also just this thing where you know men want to put women in this situation and if uh and that's how you prove that you love

[00:27:14] me as a woman because that's what you go through to love me but if I ever get rich you're all a bunch of bitches anyway you know you only want me for my money you know so it's like

[00:27:24] a it's like a trap this zone I'm mentioning this because a lot of men are also falling for this crazy idea about you know let's I'm gonna get rich and then I'm all the women will be just

[00:27:37] you know piling up but then all of the women piling up are only piling up because they're interested in your money right like it's it's a crazy kind of like trick that men are playing

[00:27:46] on themselves that will just lead to misery and I was just kind of finding these tropes already set in a lark eye larky so I had to just kind of mention it I'm not gonna get into it a little

[00:27:58] more than this but it really really bugged me just because it's at this moment that's a lot what's going on on the internet too you know and uh it just this whole andro-tate

[00:28:11] men's rights kind of like you know set up on the other hand with this trad wife thing that's going on and you know it starts in America it's gonna spread everywhere right like it's gonna come here

[00:28:22] we're gonna have somebody in Essex doing this very soon and then it's gonna do somebody's gonna do this in Germany so it's gonna be spreading but it just it's a terrible

[00:28:32] setup that's gonna make nobody happy you know and uh yeah it's uh yeah I just kind of want to mention that it really really bugged me in this movie um yeah any points that you had

[00:28:43] Sujoy that you kind of noticed watching this movie for the first time? Yeah what we have already talked about is the sort of belief that these two people love each other or fall in

[00:28:55] love in a way comes out of nowhere especially how Salman treats her you know after they establish that they are married but she's you know forgotten that their marriage exists and then Salman just out of the blue sort of throws up this relationship arrangement that

[00:29:16] they have that they sleep in different beds and then he goes out and parties and goes to cabaret nights and then sleeps around with other women and she's supposed to understand that and that was thrown out of the blue but like he emphasizes that they have that

[00:29:31] arrangement for some reason but they are supposed to still love and take care of the kids and she's like what the hell did I marry into you know? Yeah no he says we can't sleep together because

[00:29:42] we have three kids we're gonna have four kids and five kids and six kids uh that's why they sleep in different rooms and I also have to mention he's taking this revenge I mean I made

[00:29:52] it jokingly that she broke her eggs but she also puts him in jails for three days and one of the kid gets hurt so that is the justification to you know do what he's doing to her and

[00:30:03] basically teach her a lesson you know let's like we basically the Kader Khan slap setup you know um yeah um Avrita anything that kind of stood out for you? Um this was perhaps the last time

[00:30:17] that I saw like a peeking ace in a Hindi movie like uh like the dog um you know it was just a very like it literally looked like a rodent with a wig uh but it was perhaps last

[00:30:31] time like this used to be the type of dog that you could see like Zeenat Aman Kheri in like uh yeah Namak Haram or like whatever it was like not Namak Haram like what is it uh but you know

[00:30:43] what I'm talking about like back in the 70s and all like I guess this dog this type of dog used to be like really popular and then like it just went out of fashion and I'd

[00:30:53] forgotten that it even existed until I saw this one poor little dog and then yeah and also how good is Anupam Kher honestly as like the slimy uncle he is actually like really good as that

[00:31:09] I was like yeah you should be the villain in everything actually yeah I don't want to say anything good or bad about Anupam Kher um I thought also I was thinking was Neelam that bad

[00:31:22] was she that no not as a person that the person that she's playing on screen the rich heiress was she that bad like I mean would you not be mad if you've ordered a speedboat and

[00:31:34] it's not arrived she wants to go speedboating she's basically she's basically a poor person's idea of a rich person you know like yeah she's like yay like she comes in and they give her a bouquet of roses and she's like

[00:32:04] she's a horticulture expert it does like kind of show that reality that rich girls are basically just getting nonsense degrees in America right so it's basically but then she she she uh applies

[00:32:19] that later in the farming and all that all those roses come into play yeah how long was she kidnapped for though like how long does it take to you know like redo an entire farm

[00:32:30] because that's the thing that I'd also known and so then in how far is this village like where has she been held like because obviously Salman has access to nightclubs so it cannot be

[00:32:40] that far unless it's like really dingy village nightclubs cover is like I don't know where he's going no he's not going act to actual cabarets but like uh yeah it's like either

[00:32:51] it's very far or it's very close but you know wake up your mind where this farm is should be held also like um uh like what struck me is the 80s aesthetic that chain but then he breaks that supply chain and then moves completely to a different industry

[00:33:16] of providing gul dasa has created the supply but demand where are his all his contractors and i'm thinking about that yeah and he's like he for somebody who's selling under two hotels he seems to have a lot of sway he's just like he's just like an excellent

[00:33:36] i don't know why he's being treated like his royalty uh it just it's just a funny very funny setup um yeah also uh i so she gets kidnapped and speaking of an open care he initially

[00:33:50] doesn't even know that she's alive and he gets these gundas are telling him that she's alive and she's living on this farm and then he sends them to kidnap her and then it turns

[00:34:01] into like a comedic setup where the kids save her and then they're just having like a casual dinner about mom's kidnapping you know hell is going on in this movie it's it's and but like he and moti came to rescue also

[00:34:20] yeah it wasn't just us being very humble yeah it's uh it's a trip and also i found so to prove to neelam that she is his wife because she doesn't believe it she's like yeah

[00:34:33] these kids are old the house is too dingy like why don't we have any pictures of us so salman khan photoshops some picture and this also is sujoy's point that this is a feroz khan universe because this is actually the worst photoshop that we have ever seen

[00:34:53] but because it's not photoshopped the program it is an actual photoshop which he just taken photos and then glued it on top of them and took a photo of that photo exactly that's how it tricks an actual photoshop but somehow this is better than the special effects

[00:35:12] that we saw in jaan asheen yes more believable at least you know like uh yeah it's uh yeah so yeah maybe uh maybe uh uh fardeen khan had to be amnesiac to kind of be more believable um yeah oh man jaan asheen man that movie it's crazy

[00:35:36] uh any songs that's like that's the other part that really surprises me i thought the songs were really weak in this movie very like yeah i think that's why most people don't remember this movie is because the songs are like a nuttenburger like yeah yeah apart from the

[00:35:54] kitna piyaar tumhe karte hain like all the other movies are terrible like all the other songs of this movie um they even have like the the a b c d e f g h i kind of song on the jeep

[00:36:06] together everybody is thinking to anda and murki and all of that because if you if somebody would give you a check or come to you and say can you compose a song with their words

[00:36:17] ek ladka ek ladki and you were sitting in the bathroom this is a song you would compose is like ek ladka ek ladki that's it that's the song uh so i was like yeah they really did

[00:36:29] not put any effort into any of this movie like this movie is running on vibes pretty much you know like it's uh yeah and also that other song phool ye nahi armaan or whatever the

[00:36:39] dream sequence where salman and neelam are supposed to dance or you know do fantasy sequences together it very much is the like the govinda neelam vibe of going to vrindavan gardens and piche fountain hoga we will run and dance in retro looking uh shirts and uh dresses

[00:36:59] it's it's terrible and and somehow sureesh vadekar singing for salman khan is worse man i don't like it yeah no i mean yeah i don't i don't know what else we have to say about

[00:37:13] this movie to be honest like uh i uh i was really hoping this would be more fun uh yeah but unfortunately it wasn't i think uh it uh yeah it's it's just a weird time kind of like time in

[00:37:28] in movies i think salman at that moment was making a lot of movies like these were just like movies one after the other they were making them i don't also don't think this was

[00:37:37] like a good period necessarily for some all of these movies did good money you know i remember this was probably a hit i we cannot find box office numbers of that era i think

[00:37:47] but this was one of those things that i actually feel that the younger star should be doing in a way you know just work more and i think this is what in a way established these stars that

[00:37:57] they would just say continue making one movie after the other this would not be as big of a hit as the other ones either musically or critically or even at the box office but we

[00:38:06] would just go show uh go watch a new salman movie right and yeah it's like there was a there was a what is that movie that came out munjia munia munjia and varun dhawan

[00:38:22] posted his little reel of him doing a special appearance right because this is kind of a shared universe with stree and bheria and stuff like that and that's what i was thinking

[00:38:35] like that's like he hasn't had a movie in a while like he has definitely not a hit had not a hit in a while but the only thing he can like keep working is like let's post a reel of this

[00:38:46] special appearance i've done you know whereas these guys were just making movies you know they were like okay naturally next one you know and i think that's what like like that's why somebody like akshay or salman or you know shahrukh back in the day they

[00:38:59] were unbreakable or unmatchable because they would just like move on one after the other one not everything would work but yeah i'm looking at his filmography during that time right so sajan was a big hit in 91 and then came love surya vanshi ek larka ek larki jagruti nishchay

[00:39:16] chandramukhi dil tera asik buland all these movies did not like rise above that sajan level and then came ham aapke hain kone which sort of reset everything right so that era of 92-93 was just salman making one movie after another without thinking much you know like let's

[00:39:36] get this done let's get the paycheck rolling it's like investing in meme coins basically you know we just buy a little bit of all of them and hope that one you know hits so it's happening here but yeah it's uh i understand that this movie doesn't you know

[00:39:53] like stand up like to sajan and stuff like that there's very clear reasons for it and um i also yeah do you want to talk a bit about neelam like what were your thoughts like uh amrita you started

[00:40:05] it like you you you know we we moved into her performance in the movie or her character in the movie but what do you generally feel about neelam because i don't think we've ever talked

[00:40:12] about her too much on the show right i mean she doesn't really bother me as such i don't know why a lot of people have an issue with her because it's true she's one note and uh but

[00:40:24] she's pretty she's personable um she has great hair she has great skin um and listen we we sat through heeramandi we know just how bad things can get so i think uh at least she looks like

[00:40:44] herself and you know she's like a pleasant presence on screen and she's like a non-problematic person yeah like just yeah and very business minded in real life as well like she has her whole jewelry design thing that's been going since ever like she always had a you know

[00:41:01] an insight into what if this doesn't work out have something you know else cooking in the side and and like after this movie i went and watched what was our first song and that

[00:41:11] was uh from like back in it and i i think the movie was uh jawani the song was composed by r.d. birman and it's like she's so young in that and uh i think that whole persona of her

[00:41:28] always carried through in all her movies she doesn't have a really standout performance per se in throughout her career but she's always that uh she's a pleasant girl in the movie kind

[00:41:39] of presence that i remember her as because i didn't know her at like i i remember her from the movies but like she never really like she had this whole thing with govinda and chunky

[00:41:49] pandey at that time and those were not like movies that i really watched necessarily uh until i remember like govinda said she's like my sister and then they stopped casting her in movies or something like that something like weird happened at that time but i just kind

[00:42:02] of went to her wikipedia and i didn't know she was actually born and raised in hong kong and uh her family already had a jewelry business back there and then she was visiting india or

[00:42:14] something and she got discovered and cast in a movie straight away probably as a kid and then she was like okay i'll just give it a shot and she you know i think at that time i think love

[00:42:24] 86 was a big thing for her too you know that era uh so technically if love 86 happened then she was already working for six seven years right when this movie came out so uh i don't know what

[00:42:37] the peak of neelam is i don't know what the good movies of neelam are like what the standout performances are but i don't think they were even necessary for female performances at that

[00:42:46] time yeah exactly sad by the way uh someone i know who follows a podcast wants us to do swarg oh my god what is that the govinda movie it's a govinda rajesh khanna movie um and uh one day we will watch it

[00:43:09] okay is that one of those movies that a woman gets slapped at the end to teach her a lesson um no no it's uh much worse much worse things happen okay is it jaya prada is she in it uh no it's shabana azmi

[00:43:29] ah okay i'm confusing maybe with some other movie then um i i just wanted to note something also that the long list of movies that neelam did during this time ek larka hai larki and then

[00:43:45] uh a lot of you know forgettable movies like lartsaheb sahib zadi and then she did parampara with yash raj right she was in that and then sort of tapered off then she came back as a

[00:43:59] cameo in kuch kuch rathaya she was also doing a vj gig on channel v call on a show called oolala which was a childhood favorite for me but then obviously the 1999 ham satsaat hai thing happened she was caught up in the black book case and that sort of

[00:44:15] oh right right right no no no no yeah and then now she's back kind of with the fabulous lives of bollywood wives which i think is getting a next season too right they're gonna be you know

[00:44:26] milking that cow as much as they can i think um that looks like a horrible poster amrita that you just sent to me on whatsapp uh oh my god yeah it's madhavi not shabana azmi

[00:44:39] shabana azmi was in like another one of these yeah this looks like a unserious uh a serious version of raja babu or something like that you know like well that's funny that you say

[00:44:51] that because this was directed by david dhawan written by anis bazmi and directed by david wow should we actually watch this in okay yeah that's it sorry for this song uh episode sujoy hello can you hear me

[00:45:19] okay can you hear me uh can you say it again it kind of got can you hear me now like wobbly yeah okay no no that's it uh i just said that this movie had

[00:45:38] amrita final words on ik ladka ik ladki should people watch it should they be like oh this is like an under undiscovered gem that we should re-watch no absolutely not like this is fine

[00:45:50] you can just like skip it you might want to watch overboard though like i do think like that movie like it's i don't particularly like it but that's just my personal taste i think uh the

[00:46:03] movie itself is like very well made and it has like like it has a bite to it that this movie doesn't you know like that movie is about like class and uh about class in america and a lot

[00:46:17] like um about gender dynamics as asamo say like you know all those things you will see in overboard which you will not in this one yeah and a lot of skin show from both kurt russell

[00:46:30] and goldie horn is that a good thing yeah i don't know your taste may vary it came out in the 80s right that one probably it came probably uh seven 86 or something yeah 80s nudity is weird it's like it's makes me uncomfortable because that aesthetic almost

[00:46:53] veers into you know who you know like the the soft core porn of that era as well which was trying to sort of simulate that that same aesthetic so it's weird like you can't tell if the movie is going to show up full nudity or not

[00:47:08] um yeah i think that's it for a click i click key i think there's also just like i have to admit there's a few movies we have to go through that like i don't think it's going to be a pleasant

[00:47:21] experience for anybody so i think and i think that's one of the problems we have with amir khans movies like i think we've done all of the good ones and there's only the bad ones

[00:47:30] left pretty much we have a few good ones and we're going to be talking about that next week which is randip asanti but yeah i hope you guys enjoyed this show if you like and support our work

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