"Butterfly Kisses" by Bob Carlisle

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[00:00:56] Get ready to step onto the dance floor of nostalgia as we unpack the sentimental anthem of fatherly love

[00:01:14] Butterfly Kisses by Bob Carlisle

[00:01:16] If you've ever attended a wedding chances are you've swayed through the heartfelt melody of this timeless track

[00:01:21] Which has become a staple choice for the cherished father daughter dance

[00:01:25] However amidst the emotions of this episode there lies a strong and divisive opinion

[00:01:31] It's my least favorite one hit wonder ever

[00:01:34] But can Matt's in-depth research on this Christian artist and his touching tribute to his daughter sway my perspective

[00:01:41] Tune in as we dive into the backstory of this artist and song and see if we end up worshiping Bob Carlisle

[00:01:46] Or simply tossing him into the burning pits of hell

[00:01:55] Walk beside the pony daddy, it's my first ride

[00:02:01] I know the cake looks funny daddy, but I should try

[00:02:07] One hit is all you need to make the money guaranteed and you can live off royalties

[00:02:16] Forever

[00:02:29] So Matt the day has finally come we've been doing this podcast for four years or so and I I knew this day would come

[00:02:37] You know when we started this

[00:02:39] We started a facebook group and lots of people joined and it was a non-stop barrage

[00:02:46] Of people posting youtube's and suggestions of one hit wonders that they love

[00:02:52] And when people did that I collected all that data took all those songs and I made a giant

[00:03:00] Playlist I made it on both apple music and I made it on spotify too

[00:03:04] And at some point I think it has like 400 some songs on it and at some point

[00:03:10] I spent an hour of my day and said hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna organize these songs in order of

[00:03:17] What I think is the best will be the first song on it

[00:03:20] I think that ended up being big country in a big country is what I put as first or whatever

[00:03:25] And then all the way at the very bottom

[00:03:30] Dead last is where I put the song we're gonna talk about today that song being

[00:03:36] bob carlyle's

[00:03:38] butterfly kisses

[00:03:40] So we have a real challenge on our hands today

[00:03:44] That being can I walk out of this episode?

[00:03:48] a calling this song thunder or b

[00:03:52] um at least moving it out of

[00:03:56] The absolute seller of my personal one hit wonder rankings. Okay, so here's what I think is going to happen today

[00:04:04] I think that we're coming at this of two different minds

[00:04:07] And for a very specific reason right? I think that

[00:04:12] bob carlyle's peak

[00:04:14] In mainstream popularity was also

[00:04:18] Just around my peak of being very immersed in everything christian music

[00:04:24] Now I leaned towards like the tooth and nail and the punk bands, but I was aware of everything happening here

[00:04:30] so

[00:04:31] You were texting me yesterday

[00:04:33] And I was like so ready to agree with you and watch all the videos that you had set me

[00:04:38] And when I watched it from what I had experienced. I was like, oh, this is very tame

[00:04:44] This is this is actually not nearly as bad as the contemporaries that he was like partnered with like I've dealt with way worse

[00:04:52] More egregious

[00:04:53] Um, I don't think that we're ever going to move your opinion on this song because this is a song you either like it or you don't like it

[00:04:59] I think it's a fine song. It's not a song. I'm ever going to like casually listen to but I was a wedding dj for a couple years

[00:05:05] I've had to listen to the song a lot of times my mom owned this whole album like I

[00:05:12] I've heard this song enough times. It's like it's fine. I think it's a very cute whatever

[00:05:17] um again, not a song I'll ever listen to though, uh, but

[00:05:21] After doing a lot of research, uh this morning, I think that I'll at least

[00:05:26] I think that I can at least make you think

[00:05:29] All right, bob seems like an all right guy. That's the only that's the only thing I think I can pull off in this is some of the information

[00:05:34] I learned from listening to an interview he did in 2019 because there's like

[00:05:38] He like stopped recording in 2000 and I guess like the world just stopped carrying what he was up to for the last

[00:05:46] 24 years like this interview was the only thing I could find

[00:05:50] That had anything to do with what he's been up to for the last 24 years and he seems like a pretty all right, dude

[00:05:57] Okay, well that was going to be one of my first questions because I know and I've made the mistake of lumping

[00:06:03] All christian people are all religious people together. I

[00:06:07] Freely admit that's a mistake. I do believe there are two different types of christian people. They're

[00:06:14] good-hearted christian people who aren't weirdos who

[00:06:18] actually

[00:06:20] You know from what I know of the story of Jesus

[00:06:23] As being a cool guy who wanted to help people are that way themselves and use that

[00:06:31] um

[00:06:32] Or I should say

[00:06:33] They have that that faith in their life and that kind of guides them and they are good people

[00:06:39] Uh better people than me. Yeah, I will say or whatever. They're they are great people

[00:06:44] They're awesome. I have people in my family that are this way. I have friends. I have acquaintances that are this way

[00:06:49] um

[00:06:50] Who still who can believe in a big guy in the sky but also have some common sense or whatever

[00:06:57] I think those those are cool people then on the other hand there are

[00:07:01] Crazy people who believe in this stuff

[00:07:03] There's the people who I don't know might be trying to sell 50 something dollar bibles. Sure, uh to pay for their

[00:07:11] Legal bills. Well that guy doesn't even actually believe that guy's just

[00:07:16] That's a whole other thing. That's but yeah, no, there's some really there's there's truly shitty people

[00:07:21] I've I've always thought of this one quote

[00:07:23] That uh kyle my co-host of horror movie night said one time where he's like

[00:07:28] You know becoming a christian can either be this beautiful like meditative experience where you just like see the beauty and like nature

[00:07:34] And you're really in touch with the world or you can be the absolute biggest terror that this world has ever seen

[00:07:40] using it in your name like those are like the two

[00:07:44] catalogs that people fall into and as far as like I couldn't find anything about

[00:07:48] Bob I was the way I found this interview was I was actually trying to find like bob carlyle's

[00:07:53] Political leanings just out of curiosity because you never know

[00:07:56] I couldn't find anything one way or the other but what I did find

[00:07:58] I want to talk about this kind of upfront because I found this podcast called the groove podcast

[00:08:03] Which only did like 15 episodes and the host of it was

[00:08:08] Bob's producer on a couple albums and I learned a couple things about it. So first of all he referred to bob

[00:08:15] As a very laid-back guy

[00:08:17] He said he's the kind of dude who before a show just grabs a slice of pizza

[00:08:22] It takes a couple shots of whiskey and goes at the piano and just plays all night

[00:08:25] Um, and then he also they talked about his background and I didn't find this on his wiki, but according to them

[00:08:33] There's somewhere where you can find this I guess

[00:08:35] Bob cut his teeth in the 70s and 80s as a background singer

[00:08:39] Right, and he was the primary background singer for bands like mr. Mr

[00:08:43] R. Eo speed wagon at one point he claimed that he was offered

[00:08:47] A position as the lead vocalist of three dog knight and he turned it down

[00:08:51] um, but he was also

[00:08:53] The the biggest credit

[00:08:55] For him at this time was he was the backup singer for motley crew

[00:09:00] Yeah, and it's actually his vocals that you're hearing sing the girls girls girls part

[00:09:06] Of the song girls girls girls

[00:09:09] I

[00:09:10] Never knew that that is wild matt. Can you play a clip of that? I will I will I don't think you'll be able to tell

[00:09:16] Because it's like a gang vocal but he said for whatever reason my vocal got mixed the highest

[00:09:20] On that girls girls girls chorus

[00:09:23] um

[00:09:23] Also has a

[00:09:25] Barry mannello. He did backup vocals for barry mannello poison and juice newton too. Just wanted to throw that

[00:09:31] Yeah, so he he like had he was cutting his teeth in music

[00:09:35] As far as his religion

[00:09:37] Uh, he talked about that he was part of something called the jesus movement

[00:09:41] Which was a movement in the 60s and 70s and that's where you find a lot of

[00:09:45] Like that's where like norman green bomb would almost fall into to a certain extent

[00:09:49] It was like a very hippie version

[00:09:52] Of religion that rejected

[00:09:55] Evangelistic tactics and was more about writing songs about your life

[00:10:00] And if christianity happened if christianity and jesus happened to be an influence on that that that would be

[00:10:05] part of your song writing but the the goal wasn't

[00:10:09] necessarily

[00:10:10] To convert as much as to share your life experiences and how religion may or may not have had an effect on that

[00:10:17] And an example he gave was like when he was doing solo music he would get asked to play a lot of churches

[00:10:23] and when you would play churches

[00:10:26] In the 90s a very common thing was that they would want the performer to do

[00:10:32] I'm gonna set a curtain call, but that's not what it's called

[00:10:34] But it was basically like you would tell your life story and ask anybody who didn't find jesus to come up to the

[00:10:41] To come up to the front and and dedicate their life and he said every time I was asked I said that is not my scene

[00:10:46] I'm not going to tell you not to do it, but I will not be the one partaking in that

[00:10:50] Like so he he kind of was like I am a musician like that. That is his view of it

[00:10:57] Now this I think is the most crucial element of understanding

[00:11:02] Where a song like butterfly kisses came from because this was this actually startled me

[00:11:08] bob's adopted

[00:11:10] And he was adopted by his next door neighbor

[00:11:13] Who found him left abandoned in his parents home beaten severely when he was three years old

[00:11:21] And they took him in and they taught him a love of music

[00:11:23] And they're the ones that like taught him about religion

[00:11:26] And he had a quote in this interview where he said being a parent isn't just donating some sperm

[00:11:31] It's about being around him with those kids and shaping them and allowing those kids to also shape you as a person

[00:11:38] And it's like I understand why he's writing

[00:11:41] Why he would write a song to his

[00:11:44] 16 year old daughter for her birthday and why he would then write a song to his kid for his boy for 16th birthday because

[00:11:50] To him he's experienced what a bad parent is and he's striving to be a good parent

[00:11:55] God damn it, man

[00:11:58] You I came into this episode thinking I was gonna put that story now

[00:12:05] Jesus

[00:12:07] Like the song now

[00:12:09] No, because here's here's why I say that okay. The song is bad. It's not a good song. It's not a good song but

[00:12:17] What I

[00:12:19] I just always looked at it as oh, this is so cheesy and so

[00:12:24] I don't know. It's just it didn't feel

[00:12:28] Real it felt like

[00:12:31] This could be a cash grab

[00:12:33] It's a crash grab

[00:12:37] But now you knowing that backstory

[00:12:42] Means that there's some sincerity to it. Yeah, I'm sure that anyone having

[00:12:47] A daughter is a big deal, but

[00:12:49] he probably feels it

[00:12:51] 10 times more because of what he experienced as a kid and also

[00:12:58] all the the religious part of it imagine

[00:13:02] And

[00:13:04] I'm just gonna say that I'm not a bad person

[00:13:07] I'm not a bad person

[00:13:09] I'm not a good person

[00:13:13] I'm not a bad person

[00:13:15] Experiencing that and then those people introduce you to religion and then, you know that feeling of like

[00:13:23] If you do believe in that well god

[00:13:26] God made these people find me and put me with these people

[00:13:30] And he said

[00:13:34] They were talking to him about the popularity of the song and he was talking about the one thing

[00:13:37] He didn't like about the song becoming so popular

[00:13:39] And he said there are really mean people in the world who are just plain mean-spirited for the sake of being mean

[00:13:45] It's one thing for people to not like my music

[00:13:47] I can completely understand that but I was being accused of being a pedophile because of this song and being told it

[00:13:53] Was the ultimate anthem of pedophiles and it was vile stuff

[00:13:57] A lot of people can't stand something that's just pure

[00:14:00] This was truly a song that was not intended to be on my record

[00:14:03] It was written for the ears of my child and it's just that simple and some people can't stand that they have to tear it down

[00:14:10] It has to be degrading somehow if you want to call me sappy and nauseating. I get it

[00:14:16] It's a taste call that doesn't bother me, but don't dive me into heinousness just to shock me

[00:14:22] So man quit making me love barb carlile

[00:14:26] Stop it

[00:14:28] Look, this is the magic of one hit thunder. I came in here

[00:14:31] I actually posted in our group that I am like I rate in

[00:14:36] For this episode. I am so angry

[00:14:38] And and getting ready for this episode and look at this we're like 10 minutes in and you already converted me

[00:14:45] Like I I might I might think he's thunder. I yeah, I don't know if I'm the same for sure yet

[00:14:51] Spoiler alert, I don't know if I'm even gonna give him thunder

[00:14:53] But I think that he's a good dude is like my takeaway. I think that he's a good father

[00:14:58] I think that he's a good dude. I think he's a guy who just

[00:15:01] Likes music like he talked about in that interview. I sent you his newest band, which is not particularly good

[00:15:06] um little little bobby c in the mo and the big motor

[00:15:11] Um, which was his christ his non christian

[00:15:14] Soul and rock band and he said in the interview. I've been singing christian music my whole life

[00:15:19] I was ready to write some songs about girls and cars

[00:15:22] Okay, but but like once again cool

[00:15:26] Yeah, but the vibe that I got was like he stopped releasing these albums in 2000

[00:15:31] He maybe even stopped touring, but he never stopped

[00:15:34] Playing music where he could play music and like proud

[00:15:37] He actually told a funny story that he was in las vegas

[00:15:40] And there was a karaoke talent show

[00:15:42] And he looked at the karaoke book and saw butterfly kisses was there and his friends were like

[00:15:47] You should sign up for the talent show and sing your own song

[00:15:50] He's like so I did and I came in second place singing my own hit song

[00:15:59] Hey, I wanted to I wanted to ask you I know you you watched all of crazy ex-girlfriend, right? I did yeah

[00:16:06] There's what I think is the funniest song if anyone hasn't watched this show. It's pretty funny, but

[00:16:13] The song that the the guy sings that I love my daughter, but not in a creepy way

[00:16:20] Yeah, it's this

[00:16:23] Was it this song that inspired that it had to have been it because it reminds me the same of um

[00:16:30] In pop star when they do the macklemore song, uh-huh right like the gay rights macklemore song

[00:16:36] Not gay

[00:16:38] Okay

[00:16:40] Like it's that same vibe because that was what the song got accused of it was like this is a really creepy love letter

[00:16:45] But you know he said like I recorded it. I think he said he recorded it on her 16th birthday, which was in 1994

[00:16:53] And that it was just like a a tape that he gave her and she had it to listen to

[00:16:59] And it was when she was leaving for college

[00:17:02] His wife was like look you should really consider

[00:17:05] Putting that on the album and he was like, I don't know that was like he was like resisted to it

[00:17:10] and she was the ones like no I I think that this is going to be

[00:17:13] something like that I think people are going to connect with this and

[00:17:18] You know you and I don't because a

[00:17:21] We don't have much of a love for children in our lives and b

[00:17:24] We don't have daughters

[00:17:25] But like I know like this is one of the few songs that I've seen my dad tear up listening to

[00:17:31] because he has two daughters and it like

[00:17:33] captures this element of like I do like that the three verses are like

[00:17:38] Her as a little girl her as a teenager and now it's the wedding day

[00:17:42] And it's like the phases of in that video that you set me said

[00:17:46] It was like it was him coming to terms with the fact that like she's turning 16

[00:17:49] And that means she's not going to be around anymore

[00:17:52] As frequently she's going to go away to college

[00:17:53] She's going to meet someone she's going to get married and like she's going to have her own life

[00:17:57] So like I'm not going to say it's a well-written song because it's really not some of these lyrics are a little

[00:18:02] but

[00:18:03] Like I get why it connected with the people that it connected to because it's like it's kind of similar to the idea of why

[00:18:10] White Christmas sold so well like they said like

[00:18:13] You know white Christmas came out in the middle of world war two

[00:18:16] and it's a song about

[00:18:18] Being somewhere that there isn't snow and wishing that you could be near snow

[00:18:23] And that the reason that that is still the best-selling single in the world is that they said every household had two copies

[00:18:29] The son who was sent to war had a copy to listen to

[00:18:33] In another country and the family that was missing their son had a copy

[00:18:37] To listen to and that's how that song became massive and it's like any person

[00:18:41] Who has not even necessarily a daughter just a child that is growing up and leaving the house

[00:18:47] Will find something that they may be connect to in these lyrics, especially in 1997

[00:18:52] I could see I could absolutely see it just like it makes this isn't one where i'm baffled by it being a single

[00:18:58] A hit single it's also one that i'm not baffled by why there was it more hit singles from this artist like this is an absolute

[00:19:05] He just happened to write a song that made sense to play on something other than like the christian radio station

[00:19:12] Yeah, I mean that people will connect to because his other stuff is real jesus

[00:19:17] You know I

[00:19:19] I guess

[00:19:20] Another check mark in the pro column is that yes, I saw I watched you can watch on youtube

[00:19:26] He was on opera and he played the song and his his wife and his daughter were both there and they were talking about it

[00:19:33] And they all seemed pretty down to earth and normal

[00:19:34] He looks like somebody's uncle or something

[00:19:37] He does well and that was one of the last thing I wrote down from the interview was that the guy said

[00:19:42] The guy who was hosting it that was bob's producer said that of all the artists he worked with bob is

[00:19:48] One of his favorites because he got dropped from his record label just before

[00:19:52] Butterfly kisses blew up

[00:19:54] And he's like I have to say

[00:19:57] That bob

[00:19:58] The entire time that this song was huge was very well aware that this was a short term

[00:20:05] success

[00:20:06] And like kept a level head about it and he's like yeah the only thing that changed in my life was I got a slightly nicer car

[00:20:11] Like he's like it wasn't like

[00:20:13] He became this like ego maddox. That's like i'm the king of the world now. I'm the butterfly kiss

[00:20:19] I'm the butterfly king

[00:20:21] Bowled out to the butterfly king. It'd be it'd be awesome if if he started referring to himself as god at that point

[00:20:29] Like I would love for bob carlile to go by god carlile now

[00:20:35] God carlile bowled out to carlile

[00:20:39] You will worship carlile

[00:20:41] By the way, I looked at the adult contemporary charts for this entire year

[00:20:45] This was a good ass year for adult contemporary music. Yeah

[00:20:49] Do you want to so here's all the number one hits?

[00:20:52] Because there was there was a couple songs that had like marathon runs at number one

[00:20:58] Starting with from january fourth until april fifth

[00:21:04] The number one adult contemporary song. Tony braxton unbreak my heart. Okay

[00:21:09] All right, good one

[00:21:11] Then it was followed for a couple weeks april 12th to the 26th saline dion's cover of all by myself very good cover

[00:21:17] Okay, then a song. I've never really heard Kenny logins for the first time

[00:21:22] May 3rd and 10th for one week jewel had you were meant for me

[00:21:26] Okay on the chart and then came bob bob had the number one slot from may 24th until july 5th

[00:21:34] Okay, he had a nice run for one week. Chicago popped in there with here in my heart

[00:21:39] and then

[00:21:41] The person that I kept thinking bob carla reminded me of michael bolton from july 19th to august 2nd

[00:21:48] Had go the distance off of the hercules soundtrack

[00:21:52] An artist we've covered on one hit thunder august 9th to august 30th

[00:21:57] Sean colvin with sonny came home. All right

[00:22:01] This one is a massive run september 6th to november 15th liann rimes. How do i live?

[00:22:08] Which was like that was like one of those inescapable 1997 songs

[00:22:13] And then closing up the year from november 22nd to december 27th

[00:22:17] Was elton john was something about the way you look tonight

[00:22:21] Which i don't think was actually the song that was charting. That's the double a side with candle in the wind 1997

[00:22:28] Either way, I was like there's there's a pretty

[00:22:32] Decent chunk of songs in that pile that I would say are songs. I still hear

[00:22:37] somewhat regularly

[00:22:39] In the wild like I still hear on break my heart. I still hear you were meant for me

[00:22:43] I still hear sonny come home. I still hear how do I live?

[00:22:47] But if like kisses though not really I only hear this if it's played at a wedding for like a

[00:22:52] Father daughter dance. Yeah, I mean it's really faded out. It's got its thing though

[00:22:56] It's got that is that is the go-to song if it's a father daughter dance

[00:23:01] You're going to hear that at a wedding

[00:23:03] So let me say something that is not very nice

[00:23:07] okay, but

[00:23:09] I got to the point where I was doing when I was dj'ing weddings, which was a very it was like a two-year career of me dj'ing weddings

[00:23:18] If somebody's

[00:23:20] father daughter dance song was butterfly kisses

[00:23:25] I came to the conclusion that they didn't have that good of a relation

[00:23:30] Wow

[00:23:31] And and the reason and the reason why was that it's like

[00:23:34] It is the most like go-to cliched one and to me. I feel like a lot of the times

[00:23:41] A father daughter or a or a mother son song

[00:23:45] It's like a personal song that like yeah, you you tie to your parent where like

[00:23:50] Dance together in the car on the way to soccer practice to this song

[00:23:54] Yeah, something it's something that's like sentimental and special and like butterfly kisses just kind of feels like I don't know

[00:23:59] I googled father daughter dances that I liked to this one. Yeah

[00:24:04] That's a pretty good point pretty good

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[00:26:50] Hey matt, we're jumping all over the place, but i do want to give a little bit of history on bob

[00:26:55] You told me the history i did not know but we're gonna talk about the allies for a little bit because the allies

[00:27:00] We'll get there. We'll get to the allies

[00:27:02] But i did want to say that then

[00:27:04] On bob's seventh birthday

[00:27:07] His dad took him to of all places

[00:27:09] Montgomery ward i don't know if you've ever been to a montgomery ward matt

[00:27:13] I have memories of going to mcgummery ward in charlory pennsylvania as a kid and

[00:27:18] You know, i think my parents got their oil changed there

[00:27:22] And walking around and i could get a toy and i remember getting star wars toys

[00:27:26] You know, which i wish i wish i would have left in the package and never

[00:27:29] Ripped the arms off of i remember i got that guy who's the guy that has like i think he's like a translator

[00:27:35] He has like the snakes like the snake hair wrapped around him

[00:27:39] You know it's like boba fatu or something like that like it sees job as translator in return of the jedi

[00:27:44] Do those toys were the fucking best?

[00:27:47] yeah

[00:27:48] Anyway, uh, so they go to mcgummery ward and his dad said he could pick out anything you wanted

[00:27:53] And he picked the guitar and then his dad let him take lessons

[00:27:56] And that was the beginning of bob's lifelong passion for music

[00:28:00] He said that his inspirations i watched the interview with him. He said his inspirations were odis redding and sam and dave

[00:28:06] So it's yeah like pretty cool

[00:28:08] Influences it's not like he's influenced by some like weird christian music or something

[00:28:13] But i and i think that

[00:28:15] That comes through strongest

[00:28:18] On what he's doing right now like i don't think that the little bobby c and big motor is particularly good

[00:28:25] But it's definitely like

[00:28:27] 60s soul rock and roll influence like the second you hit play you hear that influence

[00:28:33] Right coming out and also because the star wars fans will lose their mind. It was bibb fortuna is that character's name

[00:28:41] I don't need them coming at me

[00:28:42] Okay, i was kind of impressed that at nine years old bob made his first record with two friends

[00:28:48] It was him on guitar a drummer and a farfisa player

[00:28:53] And he said they they like played and recorded old 60s songs like the doors

[00:28:58] Yeah played the doors uh, okay

[00:29:00] But as you said matt you said this earlier he he did have a career doing

[00:29:05] Backup vocals for people and then he had a solo career

[00:29:08] where he was playing a lot of bars and

[00:29:12] And kind of you know small venues and he talked about how he just didn't like it at all

[00:29:17] He was drinking a lot and then

[00:29:21] He gave credit to jesus. This was where i saw rolled my eyes is everything. It's always jesus

[00:29:26] Jesus always did this it's like

[00:29:29] That's the one thing that drives me crazy if someone's overly religious

[00:29:32] It's like can you go five minutes without?

[00:29:36] Mentioning jesus like jesus told me this jesus. I don't know if you know i'm sure you know people like that right matt

[00:29:41] Oh, yeah, if it was oh i was at church and this thing happened or if it was related to that but

[00:29:48] The the just dropping it in everyday conversation. That's where i'm like i'm out

[00:29:53] The thing that bothers the thing that bothers me the most about that particular circumstance is and i'm gonna i'm gonna use a quote from uh,

[00:30:01] rob bell who's a who's a

[00:30:03] very

[00:30:05] controversial religious speaker

[00:30:07] But he said one time um if jesus actually did come back and found out that people had created a religion around him

[00:30:13] He'd be mortified by it

[00:30:15] And it's like that's how i feel when people do that. I'm like everything about if you actually read the jesus story

[00:30:21] It's so much about

[00:30:23] tearing down organized religion and like and like not

[00:30:28] Not literally not being like that like literally not worshiping anything

[00:30:33] Um and so like for people to it does feel like the like the antithesis of what

[00:30:39] Like being religious is supposed to be that's a good question like knowing what we know about the story of jesus

[00:30:46] You know way more than me, but what i know anyway. Well, we still need to do that podcast where you tell us what you think happens

[00:30:52] Yeah, right

[00:30:54] But but knowing what you know and the little that i know would jesus be like i want people to worship me

[00:31:02] No, not at all exactly. Okay

[00:31:05] Not at all man. It took me a long time to get where i'm going with this point, but yeah jesus

[00:31:12] Helped our buddy bob out in about 1984 and he joined the band the allies

[00:31:18] Which is a group he performed together with for nine years who released six albums and

[00:31:23] Matt i will say i sent you i sent you a song

[00:31:27] Surrender it's a good ass song

[00:31:29] Minus all the jesus stuff. This is actually like a pretty good song

[00:31:50] From the day you are born

[00:31:55] There's a battle going on in your soul

[00:31:59] Come to a time

[00:32:00] For the people who are uh, who grew up with christian music

[00:32:05] Allies is very similar to something like petra. Like it's like that like early 80s

[00:32:12] Christian rock that's like trying to pull a little bit from what was happening in like the glam scene, but like

[00:32:19] Not too much because it's a religious band

[00:32:22] Yeah, but yeah, i was like this is pretty good. I he he's interesting to me because he actually

[00:32:30] Until this moment. I didn't realize it because he has that michael bolton style singing voice. He's got that very like low

[00:32:39] Oh, i don't know if lo is the word i'm but he's got that very

[00:32:42] Soul-ish

[00:32:43] Voice with the music it almost feels a little bit like when you hear like early meatloaf records where it's real rockin

[00:32:50] But it's like an almost operatic vocal happening over top of it

[00:32:54] But it's cool definitely if there's one song you check out after listening this episode

[00:32:58] Let it be ally surrender because that song's pretty cool

[00:33:02] It's it's pretty good and that

[00:33:05] I went down a rabbit hole trying to figure this out. I should know this as a person who plays music

[00:33:11] I should know why but i can't put my finger on it, but maybe one of my more um

[00:33:17] music theory

[00:33:19] Friends could could explain this to me

[00:33:22] Matt

[00:33:23] I'm you've heard a lot of christian music in your life if you put on like a christian radio station or something

[00:33:30] There is a sound that i can't put my finger on where the second you hear a song. It's a christian song

[00:33:36] You're like, oh, this is christian music. Yeah, not nope lyrics aside for 100 where it's like why does this sound?

[00:33:44] like christian music

[00:33:46] it's i

[00:33:48] I can i can literally

[00:33:50] There's a song that's in my head. I'm gonna i'm gonna mix this into the episode for the listeners

[00:33:55] There's a song that's coming to me by an artist named steven curtis chatman. The name just screams christian artists to me, but like

[00:34:04] The opening three notes of this song

[00:34:08] You're just like, okay

[00:34:09] I know I know everything that this song is about just based on it because it's like uh

[00:34:14] Like it's like a bump bump bump like that's like how the song kicks off

[00:34:19] So

[00:34:27] But like the acoustic guitar is mixed slightly too loud

[00:34:31] With the rest of the band and it's it just like there's this vibe of that specific

[00:34:37] sound

[00:34:38] That I so literally at the time that we're recording this just two days ago

[00:34:43] I uh had to play a worship leader in a movie that my friend is making I was asked to

[00:34:51] Write a praise and worship song that wasn't copy that had no copyright

[00:34:56] um

[00:34:58] And I was like how much of my performing is like it's literally you're finishing the song and he talks

[00:35:01] I'm like so I just have to write the end of a song

[00:35:04] And what I came up with was that we just played

[00:35:07] D

[00:35:09] C D three times and then all of the vocalists leaned into the microphone and went

[00:35:15] Jesus

[00:35:17] And that was the end of the song

[00:35:19] and

[00:35:20] I was like as I was playing i'm like yep. Yep. This is exactly it because

[00:35:25] When someone is writing christian music

[00:35:27] They're writing christian music with a mindset that someone is going to have to perform this in church

[00:35:31] And it has to be of the proficiency level of any person that wants to be in that church band

[00:35:36] Exactly exactly that's that's what I came across is they

[00:35:40] They said they always use the same chord progressions. There is something about the the tones they use obviously they're

[00:35:49] They're rarely using distortion everything is like

[00:35:52] Pristine sounding or something that's part of it and you said the other important thing that that people I read like a reddit thread of

[00:35:59] What why does christian music all sound the same and the other part of it?

[00:36:04] is that

[00:36:05] It's based off of praise and worship music so meaning

[00:36:12] And I never thought about this before when

[00:36:14] If I go to write a song it's going to be either a happy

[00:36:19] upbeat song or a

[00:36:21] sad song or an angry song whereas

[00:36:25] Rarely do I write something that is religiously?

[00:36:30] inspirational

[00:36:32] Inspirational is different than happy

[00:36:35] You know and I think

[00:36:37] one of the guys from allies

[00:36:40] Co wrote this song with him as well. I think it was randy thomas. I believe was also in allies with him

[00:36:47] Okay, what you could have that he also write butterfly kisses with him

[00:36:51] I think I saw that he had a co-writer on butterfly kisses

[00:36:54] Oh

[00:36:55] My assumption when I read that

[00:36:58] Is that I think that he wrote the verses in the chorus

[00:37:02] For his daughter and then when they decided to record it for the album

[00:37:07] His buddy was like let's beef up a bridge

[00:37:11] And an outro because the bridge the like all the precious time like wind and years go by precious butterfly spread your wings and fly

[00:37:18] Feels really out of place with the rest of this song

[00:37:21] Like it was an afterthought years later. That is

[00:37:25] That is the really contrived part all this schmaltzy cheesy stuff up to there

[00:37:31] That was real feeling regardless of how good or bad it might be

[00:37:36] It was it did come from his heart. It was meant just for his daughter

[00:37:39] The rest of it is what I feared the song was from the beginning

[00:37:44] super contrived and

[00:37:46] Okay, so that's where that's where randy thomas came in

[00:37:49] To to help him make it a complete song. I get that. Yeah, so barb barb carlyle had

[00:37:55] released two solo albums before this

[00:37:58] And then he struck gold by deciding to

[00:38:03] Release this song. It's funny that it got released on jive

[00:38:07] I got re-released on jive and then they changed the name the the original name of the album was shades of grace

[00:38:14] They changed the name of the album to butterfly

[00:38:16] Butterfly kisses parentheses

[00:38:19] Yeah, parentheses shades of grace because they knew like if they're looking for if people are looking for this album

[00:38:25] They got to have the name of the song as the name of the album. That's

[00:38:29] common sense

[00:38:31] So this is real quick about this randy thomas guy

[00:38:35] Interesting fun fact about randy thomas right around this time and it may actually

[00:38:42] I'm just piecing some stuff together right now

[00:38:45] so

[00:38:47] former allies drummer brian fulin

[00:38:50] Introduced randy thomas to robert john mutt lang

[00:38:56] and his wife

[00:38:57] shania twain

[00:38:59] Lang and shania twain hired thomas to be the guitarist and the vocals for all live performances promoting her debut record

[00:39:08] Wow, which I think was also on jive record. So i'm wondering

[00:39:12] if that's how

[00:39:14] He was able to to definitely

[00:39:17] Like he was like a songwriter on this he he he stood to better. He stood to make millions of dollars on this, of course

[00:39:24] Yeah, that that's definitely what happened. So that's that's pretty that's I mean that's also pretty because that

[00:39:30] That might mean that he played guitar on shit like

[00:39:33] The next album was the one that had like

[00:39:36] uh

[00:39:37] Man, I feel like a woman and stuff. Maybe that's randy thomas songwriter butterfly kisses doing the

[00:39:42] The

[00:39:46] Go on girl. I'm clicking in to randy thomas to see if

[00:39:51] Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I don't see my I don't see anything. It might be him live

[00:39:56] I was well. I wanted to see if he had uh

[00:39:58] Wow, he wrote material

[00:40:00] For artists such as bob carlyle as well as dolly parton hank williams jr

[00:40:05] Uh and engelbert humpard ink and then a bunch of people I never heard of

[00:40:09] Yeah, a lot of country artists up in there, but all right cool. Also. Did you see that this song?

[00:40:14] So here's a fun fact about this song

[00:40:17] This song

[00:40:18] Never as far as I could see never officially made it onto the hot 100

[00:40:23] Right like it was on like top 40 charts everything else

[00:40:26] But there was a cover of this song that peaked at 22 on the hot 100

[00:40:31] It's really reagan brothers

[00:40:33] Covered the song the covers overlapped with the release of bob carlyle's version

[00:40:39] The highest peaking was the reagan brothers

[00:40:42] The version hit number 37 on the country charts in 22 on the hot 100 in 1997

[00:40:50] Uh, and then there was a couple other covers. I just can't imagine like cliff richards covered this west life covered

[00:40:57] This song was not

[00:40:59] Didn't make the hot 100 it never that's that's version never did so when I look at the charts

[00:41:05] I mean i'm looking at the wikipedia chart performance right now

[00:41:08] But the wikipedia chart performance has the canada adult contemporary canada country chart canada top signals

[00:41:15] singles the netherlands

[00:41:18] Stuff but for the us it was on adult contemporary. It was on adult top 40

[00:41:23] It was on hot country. It was on mainstream top 40 and it was on rhythmic

[00:41:28] But it does not show up on the hot 100 ever

[00:41:31] Okay, but I will say I hope you saw this mat. So this album

[00:41:36] The album peaked at number one. It's a number one album. I think he sold two million copies of this

[00:41:42] On june 28th of 1997 it stayed there for seven weeks seven weeks. It was the number one album. Do you know

[00:41:50] what album

[00:41:52] On june 28th 1997 when bob carlough was number one. What was number two?

[00:41:59] Okay

[00:42:00] I'm gonna make a random guess because I think I may have saw this

[00:42:04] Okay, was it puff daddy's no way out. No, okay. Well way better than that

[00:42:10] Well, yeah, obviously but what?

[00:42:13] Wu Tang forever

[00:42:15] Hell yeah

[00:42:17] I mean, I don't know if we're saying hell. Yeah to bob carlough keeping Wu Tang forever off the number one spot

[00:42:23] But I just I love that that

[00:42:26] That's just crazy to me that those were number one and number two

[00:42:30] Bob carlough did he won the Grammy for best country song in 1997?

[00:42:35] I don't know what it was weird because I don't

[00:42:37] So apparently on the album there was two versions of butterfly kisses and the second one had more like

[00:42:44] Steel guitar and like country instrumentation because I never associated this as a country song to me

[00:42:51] This is an adult contemporary song by like literal definition. Yeah, it's that's true because

[00:42:58] I mean obviously the allies weren't country and then

[00:43:02] He doesn't really have a twang in his I mean maybe maybe he puts on one a little bit in this song

[00:43:09] But most of his music he doesn't have that twang in his voice. I wonder what what what is the

[00:43:15] What is the point where something becomes country if I were to write a song

[00:43:20] today

[00:43:21] And what would I need to do to make it country like have

[00:43:26] Slide guitar in it that doesn't necessarily make it country

[00:43:29] Uh, I guess I guess not. I don't know it's

[00:43:33] There's actually uh someone that we use as a reference point whenever we can Todd in the shadows

[00:43:38] Literally the day before we recorded this released a video

[00:43:41] Of his train record series about faith hill

[00:43:45] And he dives real deep into 90s country

[00:43:49] and like

[00:43:51] How that album they refused to play on country radio because it wasn't country enough and like

[00:43:57] It kind of killed faith hills career because they felt like she's abandoned her roots as a country star like it's

[00:44:04] There it is a weird weird little place. I want to uh because I just pulled it up. I wanted to see what

[00:44:11] knocked

[00:44:12] butterfly kisses shades of grace off of the number one spot

[00:44:17] And it was the spice girls spice

[00:44:20] Um, and then right after that the prodigy fat of the land really setting up

[00:44:26] What else was selling in music besides bob carlyle? Yeah

[00:44:31] Uh, and I got a few more things before I have a little game for you matt

[00:44:36] Oh, I love games. So when this song came out, it was pretty panned by critics. I don't know if you saw this

[00:44:42] time

[00:44:43] magazine called it syrupy enough to serve with waffles

[00:44:48] Heather bird from the toronto sun said it was silly vapid and saccharin

[00:44:52] Kieran grant of the toronto sun thought it was insipid and instantly forgettable

[00:44:57] But andrew patin thomas of the wall street journal. I didn't know the wall street journal did music reviews

[00:45:02] I guess I never read the wall street journal

[00:45:05] But he said the song was so immensely popular because it was genuine a rare song

[00:45:10] Destined to become a classic. He was kind of right. It was genuine even though I didn't know that

[00:45:15] um

[00:45:16] Matt, do you know what butterfly kisses are?

[00:45:19] Is so I I know at one point I did is that something with your eyelashes? Yeah, yeah

[00:45:25] It's like the fluttering of one's eyelashes on the cheek of another person. Uh, you know, maybe some people don't know that

[00:45:32] You you mentioned this way earlier, but they did write a song for I I

[00:45:37] I went onto the youtube of this song and and made myself laugh by writing

[00:45:42] um

[00:45:44] I don't know why it laughed so hard about this. I commented

[00:45:47] Bob carlough needs to write a song about having a son. I don't have a son. Just think it would be neat

[00:45:53] And then little did little did I know he does have a song that he wrote with randy thomas about his son

[00:46:00] Which was for the movie jack frost. Yeah jack frost starring michael keaton

[00:46:05] Uh, and the song is awful. It's really bad. It's really such a bad song

[00:46:10] Do you hear how he explained why he wrote that song in that like 25 minute video you sent me about his life? Well

[00:46:17] No, I didn't his analogy made me laugh was he goes

[00:46:21] You know, I wrote butterfly kisses for my daughter

[00:46:25] And you know if you have two

[00:46:27] Children and a and a cake and you cut a slice of cake for one kid

[00:46:33] You should probably cut an even sized piece of cake for the other

[00:46:37] Well, I don't know if that was an even slice

[00:46:42] Well father's love is in like the song that people slow dance to their sons with it wet

[00:46:46] Straight on the same right on the same level before you made me like bob carlough

[00:46:53] There was this quote and I typed it up as he said it from that video. I sent you. Yeah, I'm like, oh boy

[00:46:59] Uh, he literally said I mean this is in reference to butterfly kisses

[00:47:04] He said I had a woman and a little girl come up to me and the woman

[00:47:08] Stood next to the girl and she was so bold

[00:47:11] She said she has no dad and she thinks of you as her dad

[00:47:15] And I hear that over and over and over again and I carry it with me and I write back when I can

[00:47:21] I was like

[00:47:23] What people are telling you that they think of you as their dad? I

[00:47:29] I found that quote really off-putting, but that's really weird. Uh, I

[00:47:34] That video

[00:47:37] I mean, I guess it happened in mainstream music too, but dear god. There was this thing

[00:47:42] where if a christian artist even remotely

[00:47:47] Start it to crack any type of mainstream success

[00:47:50] They would so quickly put together some bs vhs docu series to charge people

[00:47:57] Like to buy and it looks like looks like bob was part of that like as I was watching

[00:48:01] I was like my god. I've watched so many of these like not this specifically, but this exact same like

[00:48:07] Cut to black and white for for a serious shot then like goofy bit. Oh, this looks like a blooper like

[00:48:14] It's they're all the exact same

[00:48:17] Structure and format it was it was very entertaining to me. Chris. There's one more thing that we have to talk about before

[00:48:23] We get to the game

[00:48:24] Yeah, I got a good game today

[00:48:27] bob carlyle

[00:48:28] As we said was a christian artist

[00:48:31] That blew up in the mainstream

[00:48:33] So what better thing could he do on his next album?

[00:48:37] But cover another christian artist

[00:48:40] Who blew up in the mainstream? Oh boy. Amy grant with his his cover

[00:48:45] of baby, baby

[00:48:48] You sent that to me and I I wrote back to you. I could not make it through 45 seconds of this

[00:48:54] His it's it's an insane cover

[00:48:57] He made he made a a wild choice

[00:49:04] It is not good

[00:49:06] All right, let's dive into this game and then we'll make our final verdicts. All right matt our game today is

[00:49:12] Is this a bob carlyle lyric?

[00:49:15] Or is this some bullshit that chris made up off the top of his head

[00:49:20] Oh, this is the best game you've ever came up with. All right, let's do this

[00:49:23] I'm just gonna go with in state. Um

[00:49:25] Keep in mind chris being a guy who knows nothing about religion and I all I did was make it up off the top of my head

[00:49:33] If it's fake or it's a real bob carlyle lyric

[00:49:38] So, uh, I got a bunch of them. Uh, we'll see how you can do what's what's your goal here

[00:49:43] If we do 10 of these how how many you think you can get right?

[00:49:47] I'm gonna go with seven. You think you can get seven of these? Oh boy. I cannot wait. All right. You ready? Yeah

[00:49:53] Lyric one

[00:49:56] I am not afraid. I can feel your strength my lord my savior

[00:50:02] Guide me with your righteous hand direct to me with your perfect plan

[00:50:07] That feels so on the nose that i'm gonna say you wrote it

[00:50:12] I did write that

[00:50:14] I thought I was gonna get you with that one. All right

[00:50:18] All right, lyric two you got a point

[00:50:21] I will sit at your feet and drink from your cup

[00:50:27] I'm already laughing

[00:50:30] I will sit at your feet and drink from your cup with heaven above

[00:50:35] I will lift you up

[00:50:37] Love is so deep. I melt in your peace. It's overwhelming

[00:50:43] That I think is an actual song. No, I made that one. Okay

[00:50:46] I will sit at your feet and drink from your cup

[00:50:51] I don't have no clue how close that is to actual song lyrics. That's why I was like

[00:50:56] I don't know chris would know the drink from your cup line, but all right daddy. Why is the sky so blue today?

[00:51:03] Does jesus really hear me when I pray?

[00:51:06] When I grow up will I be just like you will I be tall and strong and brave?

[00:51:11] I'm almost positive that is verbatim a line from father's love. That is that is the father's love

[00:51:18] All right, so what you got two points lyric four

[00:51:24] With nails and hammers

[00:51:26] They attached him to the cross

[00:51:29] And his pain is still felt today

[00:51:33] No, stop that's the one

[00:51:36] You act like this is not something someone would write

[00:51:46] The whole lyric was with nails and hammers they attached him to the cross

[00:51:52] His pain has felt still today. He's the life and the breath in life and in death in a world that has gone far astray

[00:52:00] Christian artists feel free to use that

[00:52:04] Chris, why don't you just take all the lyrics you wrote and record it into it like a simple dc

[00:52:11] Court progression and just secretly release it and make millions. So you've got you've got three out of four, right? Yeah, okay

[00:52:20] lyric five

[00:52:22] Oh boy

[00:52:24] I

[00:52:28] Bobby see right over here now children talk to me we could talk about anything at all

[00:52:34] What do you see?

[00:52:36] I can see all the lonely people all of them looking for the answer all of them listening for that call

[00:52:46] I think this is a real lyric

[00:52:48] I think he does call himself bobby c and this may even been from that weird little rap that he does in that

[00:52:55] Video that you set me. So i'm gonna say this is a real bob carlyle verse

[00:52:59] It is a real bob carlyle

[00:53:02] I'm gonna be ready. I love he starts it with bobby c right over here now children

[00:53:10] Okay

[00:53:12] Lyric six man, you're doing good on this game

[00:53:15] She's barely 15 and acting 25

[00:53:19] Staying out late and attracting desire. She's moving way too fast and flying too high

[00:53:24] Like marilin munro and lois lane

[00:53:28] When she finds out the truth there's going to be hell to pay the innocence lost is never regained

[00:53:35] I'm

[00:53:36] Gonna say that that's a real lyric because I can't see you writing marilin munro and lois lane

[00:53:41] I wish I'd have made that one up. That is from the song the devil is a liar by allies

[00:53:49] Man you're five out of six you're doing good. I'm gonna get that seven. All right

[00:53:56] Lyric seven

[00:53:58] We will remain in the hands of our savior. We will remain even in our darkest hour

[00:54:05] And the power that strength things the power that strengthens us will never die

[00:54:11] It will stand the test of time throughout all time

[00:54:15] Okay, um

[00:54:18] This is one I feel like could be you

[00:54:21] But if you're also bringing allies in I could see this being

[00:54:27] More of like an 80s hair metal song. So i'm gonna go bob on this one

[00:54:32] Yep, it's a bob. It's a song called

[00:54:35] In the hands of jesus by bob carlite

[00:54:39] Okay, that was a bob. That's felt more like an ally's lyric. So i'm at six out of seven six out of seven man

[00:54:44] You're good. I thought I was gonna get you

[00:54:46] Um, you got me on one

[00:54:48] I was made to resemble him in dignity and responsibility

[00:54:53] The fish of the sea the birds in the sky and everything that we can see

[00:54:58] Well, all right. I'm gonna just take a swing here because if I get it wrong

[00:55:02] I still have two more chances to get my seven this this

[00:55:06] This is another one where I feel like it's a little on the nose and could be you but

[00:55:11] Now I think this is bob. I this sounds like bob's song writing. No, it's me. Okay

[00:55:18] Yeah, hey christian artists if you want that the fish of the sea the birds in the sky and everything that we can see

[00:55:23] It's all yours

[00:55:24] um

[00:55:25] Okay, all my faith in you heavenly father

[00:55:29] Here to follow you with all my heart

[00:55:31] street by street

[00:55:39] I'm so bad at this all my faith in you heavenly father here to follow you with all my heart

[00:55:50] Why am I just gonna say this is a you

[00:55:53] Original all my faith in you heavenly father

[00:55:57] Here to follow you with all my heart street by

[00:56:01] Street by street washing feet true believers. We will meet my love and trust in jesus never parts

[00:56:09] Uh, I think that that's a you lyric. Yeah, that's a you

[00:56:13] I I didn't I didn't know what what how much trouble I was gonna have reading my own lyrics, but street

[00:56:20] Street by street washing feet is so good street by street washing feet just got me

[00:56:27] I couldn't I couldn't read that without cracking up. You got me seven. All right, let's see if I can get eight out of 10

[00:56:33] all right, uh

[00:56:36] I ain't never part of the ocean though

[00:56:39] I really think I could if I had the faith of a mustard seed like the bible says I should

[00:56:46] I absolutely heard him sing this lyric somewhere in the video that you sent me

[00:56:50] So that is that is bob carlyle

[00:56:52] That is bob carlyle from the song mighty love and I have one more real one and one more one more fake one

[00:56:59] Which one am I gonna give you?

[00:57:01] Give me let me hear the fake one. I your fake ones are funny

[00:57:04] Well, I'm just saying that I don't I'm not going to tell you if it's as fake or real

[00:57:09] um

[00:57:10] Okay

[00:57:13] There is not a love that compares to family when I close my eyes. They're the ones I want to see

[00:57:20] Wife and daughter son and father

[00:57:23] Oh my blessed life. Oh lord. I'm thankful for this gift

[00:57:33] I'm going to say real

[00:57:36] No, I made that one up. Okay. Yes

[00:57:39] There you go. You got me wife and daughter son and father. Oh my blessed life. Oh lord. I'm thankful for this gift

[00:57:48] That sounds like kind of like bob carlyle lyrics. It does sound like a bob carlyle lyric god dammit. All right

[00:57:53] Let's do this. So where are we?

[00:57:56] If you want me to take the first hit on this thunderblider, I'm happy to um

[00:58:00] Do I think bob carlyle is a cool dude? Sure. Do I actually think that butterfly kisses is a

[00:58:06] Fine song absolutely. Is there any world where I think that this man deserved more hits and deserved to be a bigger name?

[00:58:15] Absolutely not. So with that in mind, I am going blunder on bob carlyle

[00:58:24] I I don't like this song at all

[00:58:27] Um, I actually here's the one other thing I want to say

[00:58:29] I actually think he's a better singer than he is a songwriter. I think he has a very good singing voice

[00:58:34] I think his lyrics are very hackney

[00:58:39] For lack of a better word

[00:58:45] Man, I didn't think I was going to be at such a crossroads at this point

[00:58:51] Because I came into here like so angry and I'm

[00:58:57] Ending this episode feeling so my spirit feels so lifted

[00:59:02] I think it's probably the way that

[00:59:06] bob felt when

[00:59:09] Jesus came into his life and guided him towards the allies

[00:59:12] I feel like bob's coming into my life right now and guiding me towards a thunder. I think I

[00:59:17] I think I uh, I think I got a good thunder on bob carlyle today matt

[00:59:21] Oh, wow. All right. Well, he's not getting a certification, but

[00:59:25] Uh, you know, it's a split. It's a split jury. Yeah this week

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