In this episode, Shunali and Manral have a special guest - Dr. Jaishree Sharad, a cosmetic dermatologist renowned for her extensive work in the field and author of three best-selling books.
She shares her journey from the beginning of her medical journey as an MBBS student to making her mark in the field of cosmetic dermatology. Dr. Sharad discusses the changing trends in this field, and also corrects some misconceptions regarding various therapies. She emphasises the importance of early prevention, preserving natural beauty, and how consuming the right diet plays a massive role.
We also touch upon how celebrities have impacted the perception of cosmetic dermatology and the importance of choosing a qualified dermatologist.
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00:00 Introduction
00:15 Getting to Know the Guest: Dr. Jaishree Sharad
02:46 The Journey of Dr. Jaishree Sharad
03:53 The Big Break and Celebrity Clientele
11:17 The Evolution of Cosmetic Dermatology
16:25 The Impact of Social Media on Cosmetic Dermatology
24:08 The Dangers and Misconceptions in Cosmetic Dermatology
29:59 The Dangers of Unqualified Practitioners
30:18 Understanding Medical Qualifications
31:09 The Truth About Cosmetic Procedures
31:16 The Reality of Thread Lifts
33:07 The Risks of Unregulated Cosmetic Procedures
34:28 The Rise of Cosmetic Gynaecology
35:24 The Importance of Professional Qualifications
36:01 The Role of Supplements in Skin Care
36:22 The Truth About Expensive Skin Care Products
36:33 The Importance of Preventative Skin Care
43:30 The Dangers of Overusing Skin Care Products
48:48 The Future of Anti-Aging Treatments
52:13 The Importance of Choosing the Right Cosmetic Dermatologist
53:43 The Future of Agelessness
54:47 Conclusion: Less is More
[00:00:00] Hello everyone, this is Shunali Shroff and this is Kiran Mandral and we are not your
[00:00:07] aunties.
[00:00:10] Hello everyone, Kiran Mandral and I are back this week with a very special guest in the
[00:00:14] studio.
[00:00:15] The guest happens to be a very dear friend and a highly accomplished doctor.
[00:00:21] She is what is today known as a cosmetic dermatologist. And now we should pay attention to our guest instead of me blabbering on about her very vast resume. So Jaishree, welcome to our show. Thank you so much, Shonali. Thank you for having me. You forgot to say that you are one of those friends who I get bullied by very easily all the time. Good for us. You are better bullying.
[00:01:40] Also a hypogon-react friend.
[00:01:42] Okay, sort of.
[00:01:44] Yeah, sort of. Yeah.
[00:01:45] I'm a little peeked by journey. How did it start? So I finished my MBBS in 1996, and then I joined post-graduation to become an MD physician and some way down the line after about eight months, my mom fell
[00:03:01] very ill and so I had to leave everything and go back to Jamshedpur.
[00:03:04] That's where they were.
[00:04:03] There's no secret here that Mr Bachchan is your client. No, he's my guru.
[00:04:05] Oh, he's your guru.
[00:04:06] Mr Bachchan is your guru, but you have a lot of all the top actresses have been seen visiting
[00:04:12] your clinic into the late hours, v-hours of the morning or late hours at night.
[00:04:16] So I know you wouldn't be comfortable taking their names.
[00:04:19] We'll just stay with that.
[00:04:20] But when did you go from being this Nanavati resident dermatologist to becoming this celebrity
[00:04:27] baby? So anyway, so then I was very academically oriented all the time. So I did my post like my fellowship in Bangkok in cosmetic dermatology. Then I did another fellowship in Miami and then I started because of, you know, I've always been very hardworking. So my teachers, they're really recognized my skill or whatever. And they invited me to speak at various conferences like in Hong Kong and you know,
[00:05:45] our parts of Southeast Asia and then she brought all her friends,
[00:07:02] like, you know, and slowly, and she was from one of the people from page three,
[00:07:06] and then with a lot of Bollywood friends, friend to me saying, let's see how she is. That's how it started. How interesting the destiny is. It's burn a mouth. Yes. And it's wonderful. So then, since 2008, they've been coming. They've come to that linking road, National College. I've had paps come up. But nobody knew who Dr. Jaishri Sharad was. It was like lip sealed. People would come, get their treatments done, go.
[00:08:21] Nobody knew who I was. photograph of his on his office wall. Even I do actually. And we, he also did this. So I said, so Jits knew this. And so one day they were shooting somewhere and he messaged me saying, Jay, you've got to come. Somebody there, not Mr. Bachchan, but somebody else there had a rash. And he said, so I said, I'm not coming. You know, I have my patience. Shunali, you know how I am with
[00:09:42] patience. Like I'm really hardcore. I'm very know I was nervous I was jittery I I knew his mom. So I said, you know what happened? So he was like, he was so shy and he thought this is a woman's clinic because they were only female. So men would even shy away to come for just, you know, exemas or, you know, whatever,
[00:12:23] because it's a men thing that, no, we, you know, we can't go say, no, this is not right for you. Okay. So, Jaishree is famous for turning clients away. A lot of children, not children, but children by our age standards, young people who come to her demanding all sorts of treatments, Botox, fillers, she turns them away. And then they find some other doormat who is sold their soul to Satan
[00:13:41] to fix them, to fill them up. And which is why I often send a picture of celebrities, international as well.
[00:13:46] You know, you have people, swollen, filled. So yes there is this pillow faced thing which happened you know. So was Madonna's a reaction or
[00:15:04] that is what she asked for? I mean I is enough and make you understand scientifically But why is there know, sagging skin and basically killing it me in a few years? So so I get both actually, I do get youngsters who come and so,
[00:18:42] Yeah, they do like a little lift from there. And a lot of older men do come for lips
[00:18:46] because lips do get thinner as we age, right?
[00:18:48] And because the bone here starts to resorb,
[00:18:51] the fat goes away and the upper lip starts
[00:18:53] to look very, very thin, starts to roll inwards.
[00:18:56] And so it's not just females who understand this,
[00:18:59] but even men, and they also come
[00:19:01] for a little bit of lip filler.
[00:19:02] And what age does that begin to happen?
[00:19:04] About 45.
[00:19:05] How about Karen's and my lips doing?
[00:19:07] You guys are doing great. and you know 12 if it is this kind of a face, you're going to make everybody look the same because you do not have that aesthetic sense. To judge the proportions for yourself. You can't judge. So what is ideal is to take a face and just so normally I ask my patients with your pictures, you know, how did you look 10 years ago?
[00:20:21] Okay.
[00:20:22] And then I try to enhance those features, which were enhanced 10 years ago and leave
[00:20:27] it at that.
[00:20:28] Okay. who's a dermatologist and I'm like, Yartung, why do you all do this? Because every face I see in Dubai, the lips are walking before, into the room before the body is walking. Absolutely. So he was like, Jay, they like it that way. That's the statement. And if you don't do that, you know, you're not cool enough. You're not chic enough. So it's also a chain.
[00:21:40] Do they, you know, I've seen people with suddenly high definition chins
[00:21:45] and there's this person we know. they could be synthetic fillers as well. In India, thankfully, we don't have synthetic fillers. We only have hyaluronic acid. The beauty of that is you can dissolve it with hyaluronidase. Within 24 to 48 hours, the entire filler will disappear. It will vanish. And the filler lasts for how long? So that is again a thing. Okay, now here, when you do an under eye filler,
[00:23:00] it could last you for about a year and a half or even up to two, three years.
[00:23:05] Some amount of that filler will remain behind. Okay. cost to all the procedures. And you just mentioned that the doctors keep telling you that, okay, you need to keep getting this done over and over again. Are there quacks out there who will do stuff just to get the money rolling in? I don't want to fall into trouble, but yes, plenty. We do not have any rules and regulations
[00:24:20] in the country. And people are injecting in salons, people is again, cosmetic dermatology. Now, at least you can say she has an MBBS qualification, but that's the reason people specialize in a certain area. But why is this government not forming at policy level? Why is this not being penalized? Wasn't there an entry point for this? Anybody gets up and comes and does a pop up for these
[00:25:40] treatments?
[00:25:41] So we're not going to regularize cosmetic dermatologists, little... No, I will interrupt there. Yeah. She's not a cosmetic dermatologist. That's what I said. You have money to open it to. She's an MBBS. Okay, one doctor, but who claims to be this. And she said, babe, please come, it's near your house. So they call themselves cosmetologists. That's why I told you don't say cosmet... They can't say dermatologists.
[00:27:00] Okay, so cosmetologist, she said she's a very famous cosmetologist from Delhi.
[00:27:03] Please come to this little party.
[00:27:05] I have promised to bring in some clients for free consultation. mind, that's a different thing. But you should ask for the degree because the mistakes that happen, okay, the complications that happen, the overfilling that happens most of the time, where you're calling in people again and again, is because they are not qualified enough. They don't know the science, they don't know the anatomy, it's not so easy. And they are
[00:28:22] running a corporate culture that we have targets, we need so many syringes we need to finish telling you that I am the international mentor for the American Society of Dermatologic Surgery. I am a speaker at the American Academy of Dermatology. They don't call you like that, especially us Indians. They don't call you. So you see, what are these things? Where are these people? Are they going to speak? Are they, you know, I have, there is also something and done like a course in just the you know injectables you can still inject. But what is preventing someone from adding 20 qualifications to their name and And however, whatever thread you do, it will cause a certain amount of fibrosis inside within the skin. Okay, so do it at a later stage. Don't start early.
[00:32:20] I have a bunch of these girls, especially the TV industry.
[00:32:22] Everybody wants to do threads to pull up.
[00:32:24] What is fiber?
[00:32:25] Okay, so it's scar tissue lump, you know, the faces, it's a bony structure. If you look at the if you look at a picture of a skull, you'll see how you know there are lots of these crevices where the product can go and just settle in there, right? Okay. Or it can just settle deep like on the bone on the surface and it move from it and move after a certain point, if you've not placed the right type of filler in the right plane, which again, everything if I learn every single thing done properly. There were giant lightning creams, there were giant oaf fillers. Yeah, there are tightening devices also. Radio frequency tried tightening devices also. Cosmetic gynecology is the next big thing now. It's going to come up. And you know, but anyway, coming back to this, so she was like, you know, and what are the list of multivitamins for skin, collagen, there's new collagen drinks I bought mine yesterday myself. Congratulations. Bhagwas, waste of money. And we it's like you know there are not adequate studies which support the fact that collagen oral collagen goes directly to actually do something. I.N. is very important. So check your hemoglobin levels and then do that. And then magnesium helps a lot. Magnesium. You know, there are so many types. So citrate helps a lot. So you can do that, especially, you know, both men. And so women undergo perimenopausal changes, but men also have these changes happening in their body. Right.
[00:37:40] OK. So they also will need something.
[00:37:42] So I've read a lot.
[00:37:44] I know a lot of men who take ashwagandha. OK. Right.
[00:37:47] And it helps. Okay. Please illuminate why is it so trendy these days? It's all over Instagram. Yeah. So Glutathione is not, it's not a new drug. It's a drug that has been there for a long time. It's an antioxidant given in cases of fatty liver, you know, cirrhosis of liver to detox
[00:39:05] the liver.
[00:39:06] Okay. It's not going to make you feel. That's what I was going to ask. Is it a natural sauce? It's so again, a lot a bunch of all these vitamins, sorry, brightly colored fruits and vegetables. Pomegranate. You can take. But again, it doesn't get absorbed adequately. Oh, I thought natural absorbs better. The best way to take glutathione is actually ivy glutathione.
[00:40:20] Ivy.
[00:40:21] Yeah.
[00:40:22] But again, you should not overdo it.
[00:40:23] So this ivy is really popular these days.
[00:40:25] Everybody seems to be doing ivy. So immediately when the patient started feeling a little breathless, we knew something is wrong. We stopped, we saw the drip, we have somebody constantly monitoring it. And we take a bunch of history of what allergies you have and then we will not give you those things in the IV. So it's a medical process. It's good to take a drip if you're deficient in certain whatever.
[00:41:44] If you're deficient in the CUNY.
[00:41:45] Yeah, not just because it's a trend and you'll suddenly become like from ugly, duckling a
[00:41:48] beautiful swan as they say. So I will look at that and I feel shit for a day. And then I'm like, you know, all of us surrounded by people who let go. Maybe maybe I'm you can stress for a day. What can you do after that? So what is it? What do you recommend women who cross 40, 45? What should you start with in terms of, you know, skincare in terms of treatments, noninvasive, invasive, whatever?
[00:43:02] What is the routine that you think they should do watch out for?
[00:43:06] And when do you go to a good, I mean, healthy diet goes for everybody, but stick to maybe cleansing, moisturizing, and using a sunscreen in the day, not just for your face, but obviously for your body as well, moisturizing is important.
[00:44:20] And at bedtime, again, cleansing
[00:44:22] and using maybe a targeted cream if you have acne
[00:44:25] or a hyperpigmentation hair to some cream for that, nice cinema I'm not against it but it's Jack of all trades and master of none. Okay. Right. It's over left. It's really overhyped so you can use it you know as one like one more serum if you want to but it doesn't do that much. So yeah so you could incorporate all of that from the time but consult with a dermatologist and understand and pick two don't pick ten.
[00:45:42] Right and then the same bone, okay, and
[00:47:03] everything ages. expensive but then she said if you want we have treatments for this and I've been doing Hifu with you since years and you know some skin rejuvenation treatments I have done with her that she then explained the same logic to me that you can buy 20 of these creams and go on applying but they're not going beyond a certain layer and then those natural collagen boosting treatments that she
[00:48:22] does which I do at a clinic those are stimulated from within okay so the thing need lips because the lips become thin as you age. So that is going to stay. Under eye hollows, nothing else will fill. If you want to create a chin, you need fillers. You want to create a jawline, you need fillers. So they are going to stay. But people are not going to be doing cheeks and overfill and look like pillow faces and all of that now.
[00:49:41] That trend is changing.
[00:49:42] And that's why I just said that maybe my clinic should
[00:49:46] be called the dissolving clinic because I'm dissolving they're like injecting moisturizers into the skin. They're made up of hyaluronic acid and, you know, there are newer ones which now are made up of DNA, poly nucleotides. Okay. Okay. So you can use those and you can use the firming ones like the profilo, the sculpture and the polyribonucleotides, which are there. So there are two types of these boosters. We inject them into the skin to stimulate your cells, which are called fibroblasts.
[00:51:04] And those will again produce collagen and elastin. Hifu, you know, the linear Hifu and the regular Hifu and the radio frequency treatments, which you can do twice in a year. Again, they are very good preventative treatments. So, you know, then you don't need stuff. There are people who come to me, you know, with absolutely sagging faces. And I'm like, now what do I do? You have to go to a plastic surgeon and
[00:52:22] get a surgery done, right? Because there's only that much non-surgical stuff can do.
[00:53:21] They are very, they're not so painful. This is the earlier ones.
[00:53:23] The newer ones are much better.
[00:53:26] The same goes for hair removal lasers, right?
[00:53:28] I've done my entire body with that excruciatingly
[00:53:31] and painful hair removal laser.
[00:53:34] And now, you know, the newer lasers that we have now,
[00:53:38] you don't even come to know,
[00:53:39] you feel as if ice is being applied on your face.
[00:53:41] Really?
[00:53:42] So yeah, technology is on.
[00:53:44] We are on our way.
[00:53:45] Maybe you can keep sitting here in a way
[00:53:46] and I'll have it here today.


