"Bad Boys: Ride Or Die"

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[00:01:30] Senua's Saga, Hellblade 2.

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[00:01:35] You are listening to The Next Best Picture Podcast, and this is our review of Bad Boy's Ride or Die.

[00:01:41] Come on, Mike, slow down.

[00:01:43] We are late.

[00:01:44] My stomach, Mike. I need a ginger ale.

[00:01:49] Get a ginger ale and nothing else.

[00:01:52] Are those dogs fresh?

[00:01:54] Put a man yesterday.

[00:01:55] Give me one. Put some relish on that motherfucker.

[00:01:57] Open the register.

[00:01:59] Stay right there.

[00:02:00] Is that Skittles on the counter, Marcus?

[00:02:02] This ain't mine, Mike.

[00:02:03] Yes, it is.

[00:02:04] Get the fuck up.

[00:02:05] Marcus, get in the car.

[00:02:06] He has a gun to my head.

[00:02:07] Want to deal with him or you want to deal with me?

[00:02:08] Sorry, sir, but I gotta go.

[00:02:12] Call 911.

[00:02:14] Call 2 to police.

[00:02:17] Hey, Reggie, you ate my snacks?

[00:02:19] No, sir.

[00:02:20] You ate my snacks, didn't you? You need to get a job.

[00:02:22] I'm a U.S. Marine, sir.

[00:02:24] Well, then you need to deploy.

[00:02:26] Dad, look.

[00:02:27] We now have evidence that the late Captain Conrad Howard of Miami PD

[00:02:31] was working directly with drug cartels for years.

[00:02:36] Captain Howard is being Frank.

[00:02:38] Let's go.

[00:02:40] What the hell?

[00:02:41] He's texting us from the other side.

[00:02:43] I know he's not, Marcus.

[00:02:45] If he's seeing this, I'm probably dead.

[00:02:47] Fuck!

[00:02:48] Fuckers, fuck them all.

[00:02:51] I don't know how high up this shit goes, but don't trust anybody.

[00:02:56] You're my bad boys.

[00:02:57] Stop.

[00:02:58] You're my name.

[00:03:00] You should be careful.

[00:03:02] They're being set up, detectives.

[00:03:06] All right, everyone, you were just listening to the trailer for Bad Boys, Ride or Die,

[00:03:10] and the story is as follows.

[00:03:12] When their late police captain gets linked to drug cartels,

[00:03:16] wisecracking Miami cops Mike Lowry and Marcus Burnett

[00:03:20] embark on a dangerous mission to clear his name.

[00:03:23] The film is starring Will Smith, Martin Lawrence,

[00:03:26] Vanessa Hudgens, Alexander Ludwig,

[00:03:29] Paola Nunez,

[00:03:31] Eric Dane,

[00:03:32] Ione Griffard,

[00:03:33] Rhea Sehorne,

[00:03:35] Jacob Scipio,

[00:03:36] Melanie Lubberd,

[00:03:37] Tasha Smith,

[00:03:38] Tiffany Haddish,

[00:03:39] and Joe Pantoliano.

[00:03:42] It is directed by Adil and Bilal,

[00:03:45] and it is written by Chris Bremner and Will Beale.

[00:03:49] Here to join me today for this podcast review,

[00:03:52] I have Giovanni Lago.

[00:03:54] Hello.

[00:03:55] All right, Giovanni.

[00:03:57] We ride together.

[00:03:59] We die together.

[00:04:01] We podcast together.

[00:04:04] Bad Boys for Life.

[00:04:06] Yes, sir.

[00:04:07] A real missed opportunity to not call the fourth entry in the franchise.

[00:04:12] Yeah.

[00:04:13] Bad Boys for Life.

[00:04:14] What were they thinking?

[00:04:15] I don't know.

[00:04:16] Maybe I don't think they expected Bad Boys for Life,

[00:04:19] which was the third one,

[00:04:21] to be as successful as it was,

[00:04:23] let alone the most successful film of that year in America,

[00:04:26] you know,

[00:04:27] because the world shut down.

[00:04:29] Yeah, that's true.

[00:04:31] Bad Boys for Life, though,

[00:04:32] not just financially speaking after,

[00:04:34] you know,

[00:04:35] the release of Bad Boys 2 many years prior,

[00:04:38] but also critically was the most well-regarded film of the franchise.

[00:04:43] Michael Bay for the first time was no longer in the director's chair.

[00:04:47] Will Smith,

[00:04:48] Martin Lawrence returned,

[00:04:49] and now here they are again.

[00:04:52] Very much so because of the success of that last film,

[00:04:55] where I think the previous film was done more so out of love and wanting to

[00:05:01] get the band back together.

[00:05:03] In many ways,

[00:05:04] this one feels like,

[00:05:05] oh,

[00:05:06] oh,

[00:05:07] this made money.

[00:05:08] Let's do it again.

[00:05:09] You know,

[00:05:10] that sort of thing.

[00:05:11] But you do have the directors,

[00:05:14] Adil Al-Arbi and Bilal Falal returning here,

[00:05:18] and they are a very,

[00:05:20] very exciting directing duo.

[00:05:22] I find.

[00:05:23] Unfortunately,

[00:05:24] they experienced real tragedy in recent years where their Batgirl film for HBO

[00:05:32] Max will not see the light of day.

[00:05:34] So I know a lot of people are currently rooting for them to do well here with

[00:05:39] Bad Boys Ride or Die.

[00:05:40] Giovanni,

[00:05:41] this is also a post Will Smith slap release.

[00:05:47] So there's a whole new perception of Will Smith heading into this film,

[00:05:51] too.

[00:05:52] But this is one of his franchise films that he can go to that people are

[00:05:57] familiar with.

[00:05:59] Anyone who's a fan of his will have some comfort probably in this character.

[00:06:05] How did this work for you?

[00:06:07] What did you think that four films into the franchise Bad Boys Ride or Die laid

[00:06:11] on me?

[00:06:12] You know,

[00:06:13] I think with Bad Boys for life,

[00:06:15] I really enjoyed it.

[00:06:17] I saw it twice in theaters.

[00:06:19] I've always enjoyed the Bad Boys films.

[00:06:21] I'm going to be on the higher side of them,

[00:06:24] especially because I am in the Michael Bay on tourism camp.

[00:06:27] You know,

[00:06:28] he's my guy,

[00:06:29] big ambulance fan over here.

[00:06:31] So I love how Adil Bilal came in for the third one.

[00:06:36] Shockingly emotional,

[00:06:37] especially with the dumb like plot reveal in it that actually works.

[00:06:43] It makes the action better in that movie for me.

[00:06:46] And so coming into this one,

[00:06:48] I didn't really need another one.

[00:06:50] But,

[00:06:51] you know,

[00:06:52] where cash strikes,

[00:06:53] there comes opportunity.

[00:06:55] It was always inevitable.

[00:06:57] I like how you mentioned,

[00:06:59] you know,

[00:07:00] the stuff that's happened with will obviously because I feel like everyone's

[00:07:03] just going to talk about the slab.

[00:07:05] And I think even with a deal in Bilal's Batgirl film,

[00:07:09] because there is this like weird energy attached to the movie for me,

[00:07:12] where it feels like a lot of the people attached need a hit.

[00:07:16] Like we're like,

[00:07:17] we need a cash in on this.

[00:07:19] We need something to,

[00:07:20] you know,

[00:07:21] give us a W on our side.

[00:07:22] And even though this movie was green lit a long time ago,

[00:07:26] like almost like immediately after the third one and everything started to

[00:07:29] bounce back a bit post COVID as for how I enjoyed Bad Boys,

[00:07:34] write or die.

[00:07:35] It's fine.

[00:07:36] I wasn't the biggest fan of it.

[00:07:38] I will say the days on since there's certain feelings I've had towards

[00:07:44] things.

[00:07:45] I wasn't appreciative for,

[00:07:47] and I feel I'm liking them better.

[00:07:49] I still think this is the weakest entry of the series.

[00:07:53] I think this is actually prime TNT Tuesday programming.

[00:07:59] Like you're at a plan of fitness or something.

[00:08:01] You could just go to a gym and do it.

[00:08:03] You could just watch it on the treadmill.

[00:08:05] It's entertaining.

[00:08:06] I think a deal in the law is I for action is probably the more energetic

[00:08:12] and reinvigorating thing about their turn on this series that has made it

[00:08:16] worthwhile.

[00:08:17] I think,

[00:08:18] you know,

[00:08:19] Smith and Lawrence just easily step back into these characters and they're

[00:08:22] always fun to watch.

[00:08:23] I feel some of the bits in this film get a bit grading to me,

[00:08:27] especially on Lawrence's end.

[00:08:30] I think he's fine,

[00:08:31] but he's shooting a lot and there's a lot of jokes in this movie that do

[00:08:35] not land for me that I'm just sitting there like cool.

[00:08:38] I think the villains of major step down.

[00:08:41] I think the plot is ultimately not as engaging as the last film,

[00:08:45] which I mean,

[00:08:46] it's a bad boys film.

[00:08:47] I know I don't need like the most surreal and subversive police cop drama

[00:08:52] or anything like that for an action comedy.

[00:08:54] But I think the plot is really good.

[00:08:57] But it does dial into like very much fast and furious isms,

[00:09:01] which I'm very excited to get into because I think it's weirdly fascinating

[00:09:05] to talk about.

[00:09:06] But overall,

[00:09:07] it's an average entry into the series.

[00:09:10] I think it's,

[00:09:11] I guess you can call it the worst one.

[00:09:13] Like it's still a watchable film.

[00:09:15] Like it's nowhere near being bad.

[00:09:17] No pun intended.

[00:09:18] Yeah.

[00:09:19] So for me,

[00:09:20] I probably would agree with you that this for me was made for a

[00:09:25] least favorite of the franchise.

[00:09:27] And it's weird because I know there's a lot of people who would disagree

[00:09:32] with this and say,

[00:09:33] otherwise I've seen so many people say that this film was highly enjoyable,

[00:09:37] entertaining,

[00:09:38] and it is,

[00:09:39] it's ridiculous over the top laced with really crazy jokes that are not

[00:09:47] anywhere near as offensive as what Michael Bay used to pull out.

[00:09:51] But you know,

[00:09:52] it really rests on the chemistry of Will Smith and Martin Lawrence to hold

[00:09:59] your interest throughout.

[00:10:00] And that chemistry is still there all these years later,

[00:10:03] these still these two still got it in many,

[00:10:06] many ways for me where the story really faltered was primarily in this

[00:10:15] storyline here with Joe Pantoliano who,

[00:10:19] you know,

[00:10:20] met his demise,

[00:10:21] Captain Howard in the third film.

[00:10:23] And so there's this whole thing about how he's been framed for working with

[00:10:28] these drug cartels and none of this is particularly interesting to me.

[00:10:33] I do appreciate that they found a way to bring Joe Pantoliano back somehow

[00:10:39] because I've always liked his presence in these movies,

[00:10:42] but the real story and the thing I found to be most interesting was how for

[00:10:48] the first time Mike and Marcus kind of swap personalities,

[00:10:53] if you will.

[00:10:54] And Mike becomes the more timid one who is now affected by this marriage that

[00:11:03] he has in his life and is suffering from panic attacks.

[00:11:06] And Martin Lawrence's character Marcus,

[00:11:08] instead of being that is now the one that's filled with all of his confidence

[00:11:13] in the world like Michael Lowry usually is.

[00:11:16] And so I thought that dynamic was quite great actually,

[00:11:21] but you're right.

[00:11:23] The third film was certainly more emotional,

[00:11:26] certainly felt like more of a nostalgic coming together of these two,

[00:11:33] but also at the same time, you know,

[00:11:35] ending it in such a way where maybe it could be the end of the franchise,

[00:11:40] where this one just feels like another entry that doesn't have that proper

[00:11:45] feeling of an ending. If anything,

[00:11:47] I kind of walked away from this thinking, oh,

[00:11:50] they're going to make yet another one at some point.

[00:11:54] And so I don't like how it fits in with the other three films in that regard,

[00:12:00] but I can't deny that I still had some fun with it.

[00:12:06] Like it's amusing at times,

[00:12:08] but is it as engaging or as good as the previous one or even the previous two by

[00:12:15] Michael Bay? I will admit for me,

[00:12:17] those are definitely built on nostalgia.

[00:12:20] I was very young when those movies came out and I was not allowed to watch them.

[00:12:25] And so I watched them,

[00:12:27] which added an aura of a cool to it all for me where I very much enjoyed

[00:12:32] those films as a teenager, but here and now,

[00:12:38] yeah, something about this just wasn't clicking altogether.

[00:12:41] I'm glad it's working for some people, but for me primarily,

[00:12:45] this one just felt like, you know, it was,

[00:12:48] it was definitely a bad boys film. I'll say that much.

[00:12:53] We took it all. We brought them to our last.

[00:12:57] An endless night, ember hot and icy cold.

[00:13:00] The rage of the earth. We made this curse.

[00:13:03] Carved it in the blood on our backs.

[00:13:06] We did not see. We could not, but she did.

[00:13:09] And in the end, what will I become?

[00:13:12] Senua's Saga. Hellblade 2.

[00:13:14] Play it now with Game Pass.

[00:13:16] Yeah. I mean, it's kind of like a,

[00:13:18] it's a little bit like a,

[00:13:20] it's a little bit like a,

[00:13:21] it's a little bit like a,

[00:13:22] it's a little bit like a,

[00:13:23] it's a little bit like a,

[00:13:24] it's a little bit like a,

[00:13:25] it's a little bit like a.

[00:13:27] I mean, it's got everything a bad boys film needs.

[00:13:29] Like you get, you know,

[00:13:30] the whip pan to see them standing up in slow motion.

[00:13:33] You got them singing the song and then Marcus eventually just

[00:13:37] butchers to the lyrics like the rest of us.

[00:13:41] I do say I like some of the action from the last film with

[00:13:44] the first person and third person switching around stuff,

[00:13:47] which is pretty cool.

[00:13:49] There's the main final set pieces in this abandoned amusement

[00:13:52] in an amusement park.

[00:13:54] And when they say it, it's as laughably dumb

[00:13:56] as it sounds in like a good way.

[00:13:58] Well, I mean, that's the that's the funny thing, too,

[00:14:00] is that this ending, like you said, takes place in an amusement park.

[00:14:05] Yeah, they're they're not hiding the fact that they know

[00:14:08] what kind of a movie this is and they are poking fun at that throughout.

[00:14:13] There's also the meta moment to where Martin Lawrence slaps Will Smith

[00:14:19] and that got a huge reaction out of everybody in our audience

[00:14:22] when we saw it, too, you know.

[00:14:24] And so this movie, I think, does make some smart decisions here

[00:14:29] and there to not take itself too seriously and definitely poke

[00:14:33] some fun at its stars and at its premise.

[00:14:36] And it's definitely self-aware.

[00:14:38] It knows how unserious it is, which is why in the moments

[00:14:42] where it chooses to then get serious,

[00:14:46] it doesn't feel as.

[00:14:49] Not only earned, but it also just doesn't feel as polished

[00:14:52] as it did in the third film.

[00:14:54] Yeah, I agree.

[00:14:56] I think also all the new characters introduced in this movie are not.

[00:15:01] They are all really bad.

[00:15:03] Yeah. Yeah, that was definitely a bit of a letdown for me as well.

[00:15:07] Like you were mentioning earlier, the villain of this movie here

[00:15:10] played by Eric Dane, definitely a huge letdown.

[00:15:14] There are other reveals because there's a whole conspiracy

[00:15:19] with cops who are in on this, helping the drug cartel

[00:15:22] that are framing Captain Howard.

[00:15:24] I'm not going to reveal much more about that, but let's just say

[00:15:27] you can see it coming a mile away, many miles away, even I would say.

[00:15:31] And Ria Sehorne, girl.

[00:15:35] Oh, it's not entirely her fault, though.

[00:15:38] Like, no, her character is just so underwritten,

[00:15:41] but also the way she has to like deliver her lines.

[00:15:45] And she's she's essentially like the straight man

[00:15:47] who is having to hunt down Mike and Marcus.

[00:15:51] So basically, she's Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive is what you're telling me.

[00:15:55] Yeah, I guess so.

[00:15:57] Yeah. But like also it's just I just don't buy it.

[00:16:00] I know we talked after the film and I was like

[00:16:05] seeing her in just a vest and all this uniform stuff.

[00:16:08] I was like, I don't take it seriously.

[00:16:11] And we were mentioning, you know, we've seen her be just phenomenal

[00:16:15] and better call Saul for like the past six years.

[00:16:18] And so maybe like there's a degree of you have to like let go

[00:16:22] of the Kim Wexler isms of her performance

[00:16:26] or just what we know her to be on screen.

[00:16:30] And in a way, there's some of those traits that she needs for this character.

[00:16:33] But I just don't buy it.

[00:16:35] And then this whole stuff with her daughter.

[00:16:38] I don't care.

[00:16:39] Like, I was just frankly bored by it every time it came on screen.

[00:16:42] Yeah, I thought she was pretty wasted in this.

[00:16:45] I did not enjoy how she was utilized.

[00:16:48] I enjoyed seeing her because I'm a huge fan of her work and better call Saul.

[00:16:53] But yeah, yeah, definite let down for me on that front.

[00:16:56] You know who was fantastic in this movie, though?

[00:17:01] Reggie. Yeah. OK.

[00:17:03] Yeah. Probably the dumbest moment in this movie that had me smiling.

[00:17:08] One of the few genuine moments like I let out a genuine laugh

[00:17:12] because I think when you watch bad boys and you first see Reggie

[00:17:16] and it's just this playful bit and then looking now at what it's turned into.

[00:17:20] I think this is what I meant when I say Fast and Furious isms,

[00:17:24] because you see the scene play out with Reggie and never in a million years

[00:17:28] would you have expected it.

[00:17:30] And when you're watching it happen, you're like, this is the funniest thing ever.

[00:17:34] I mean, they do set it up by saying that he is now a U.S.

[00:17:37] Marine. OK. In that moment.

[00:17:39] OK, that means he's going to get physical at some point.

[00:17:41] Sure. I think there's a difference between physical

[00:17:45] looking John. Yeah, I don't know many normal U.S.

[00:17:49] Marines that become Reggie in this, but it's great.

[00:17:53] It's a lovely scene.

[00:17:55] I was laughing a lot, but it's like stuff like that.

[00:17:59] The way they either drop storylines

[00:18:03] or just don't bring back characters like Fast and Furious.

[00:18:06] So like Charles Melton's absent in this one or the relationship

[00:18:11] between trying to remember their boss now, Paola Nunez.

[00:18:16] Yes. Her character was part of the team.

[00:18:19] They all introduced all these new characters and bad boys for life.

[00:18:23] And by the end, you know, they constantly hinted at their past relationship

[00:18:27] and they'll spark it up again.

[00:18:28] And then this one in the beginning, you know, Mike is getting married

[00:18:32] to some character we've never seen before who's entirely new to this film.

[00:18:36] It kind of makes no sense, especially with how

[00:18:39] Paola Nunez's character storyline goes and talks about the more obvious things

[00:18:45] that happen in the movie, like you mentioned.

[00:18:47] Also not to not to mention, too, is the second time

[00:18:49] they're doing this now after Bad Boys two between him and Gabrielle Union.

[00:18:54] And it's like, yeah, what's up with the continuity and Mike

[00:18:57] Lowery's relationships, you know?

[00:18:59] And the last one that's like the major Fast and Furious ism, which

[00:19:03] I think works for this film to a degree is how villains

[00:19:07] of one movie are now the allies and the other.

[00:19:10] So a storyline that doesn't entirely work, but I admire them trying is Armando

[00:19:16] Jacob Scipio, the son of Mike from the last film

[00:19:21] is now teamed up with them.

[00:19:22] He kind of plays third fiddle, which I don't like,

[00:19:26] but he's also very good in it.

[00:19:29] And there's an action sequence in the prison scene.

[00:19:31] And I wish that was like 20 minutes long.

[00:19:32] That was one of my favorite moments.

[00:19:34] Yeah, that was pretty great.

[00:19:35] I like his presence.

[00:19:36] I agree that he is underwritten in this one and he is meant to be there

[00:19:42] just to help fervor along Mike and Marcus's mission.

[00:19:47] He doesn't actually have as much of an impact on the story

[00:19:50] of this time around as he did in the last one.

[00:19:52] I mean, that's part of the reason why the last one worked so well

[00:19:54] was because of this like very emotional storyline between him and Mike.

[00:19:58] And here they don't really expand upon that so much.

[00:20:02] I mean, you can make the argument that they try to,

[00:20:06] but I don't think it has nearly as much impact as it did previously.

[00:20:10] And also to they portray this guy, if we're going to just keep going off

[00:20:13] on the Fast and Furious isms, they portray this guy is like superhuman.

[00:20:17] Pretty much.

[00:20:18] He's not only able to dispatch multiple enemies

[00:20:22] like in that prison sequence, like you were talking about,

[00:20:24] but then he endures so much punishment that by the end of the movie,

[00:20:28] I was like, oh, he's surely going to die.

[00:20:30] And no, he's able to just walk.

[00:20:33] Well, not walk off, but he rides off on a boat into the sunset.

[00:20:37] You know, he's the Deckard Shaw, the Jason Statham of this franchise now.

[00:20:41] Damn. That's what he's going to be.

[00:20:43] No offense to Jacob Scipio, but he ain't no Jason Statham.

[00:20:47] Hey, give me more of those prison sequences.

[00:20:49] I mean, that was great.

[00:20:50] That was some of the action in this movie is really good

[00:20:53] when they keep it a bit to the ground.

[00:20:56] And that's also not an intentional pun, because there is an airplane sequence

[00:21:00] that happens in this movie.

[00:21:02] And I think when Adil and Bilal try to, you know, up the ante,

[00:21:07] like when you hear every Fast and Furious movie now, it's like

[00:21:09] this one's going to be bigger than the last.

[00:21:11] And this action set piece is going to be mind boggling.

[00:21:14] And every film they try to do the impossible, you kind of get a hint

[00:21:18] at that with a plane sequence where why is this in a bad boys movie?

[00:21:22] Like it looks cool.

[00:21:23] And some situations mainly inside

[00:21:26] the helicopter and the cameras whipping around and trying to keep this

[00:21:31] very continuous energy to it.

[00:21:33] And then you just see it rotating around and crashing

[00:21:36] and then talk about, you know, how is this guy do everything?

[00:21:39] Yeah, I can fly a plane.

[00:21:40] I'm a drug dealer.

[00:21:41] And you're like, sure. All right, I guess.

[00:21:44] And it doesn't land as well as the prison fight we mentioned

[00:21:48] or the Reggie sequence or even like the ending amusement park

[00:21:53] where it's constantly switching between first and third person.

[00:21:56] And I love the video that recently came out of you seeing Will Smith

[00:22:01] have the gear on him, the camera.

[00:22:03] And he's also operating the camera switching back and forth

[00:22:07] while he's acting and doing the action sequence himself.

[00:22:11] Because when you watch it for a degree, I'm like, this is digitally stitched

[00:22:16] together, right?

[00:22:17] Like there is that sheen to it where you're kind of like, oh, this isn't actually

[00:22:23] a continuous thing.

[00:22:23] And then you see it and it's quite impressive.

[00:22:26] Also a testament to that, like Will Smith is still one of our biggest movie stars

[00:22:31] and he knows it.

[00:22:33] And this is a role that has always been like, yeah, I'm a star.

[00:22:37] You know it. And it's fun.

[00:22:39] And I do have fun with it, even with all these problems that I'm listing.

[00:22:43] Yeah, I think that part you mentioned there with the perspective of the gun,

[00:22:48] there's a lot of really cool directorial flourishes like that

[00:22:52] throughout here from a deal in Bilal that they deployed that I really,

[00:22:57] you know, really enjoyed.

[00:22:58] However.

[00:23:00] I don't think the action in this movie is

[00:23:04] I'll say this much, I think it's filmed really well,

[00:23:07] but I don't think the action itself is anything great.

[00:23:10] Yeah. I was recently rewatching the scene in Bad Boys 2 where

[00:23:15] the cars get flipped off of the truck to them on the highway.

[00:23:19] And I was like, man, that is such an awesome scene,

[00:23:23] primarily because two of those cars are real and there's so many stunts

[00:23:26] going on in that sequence here.

[00:23:29] It just doesn't feel like there's anything that imaginative.

[00:23:31] And then we get a CGI crocodile at one point that I'm like,

[00:23:35] what are we doing here?

[00:23:36] But then again, like I was saying before,

[00:23:39] maybe poking fun at, you know, Scorsese.

[00:23:42] It's an amusement park ride, you know?

[00:23:44] And so that's the kind of movie that they're setting out to make here.

[00:23:48] I just found it to be quite silly.

[00:23:51] And there's like one part to where the van that they're in

[00:23:55] gets lit on fire by these flaming Molotov cocktails.

[00:23:59] And I was like that that is so ridiculously on fire

[00:24:03] that that thing should blow up.

[00:24:05] There's no possible way, like the way that they actually had

[00:24:09] this thing lit up.

[00:24:10] I was like, there's no way. No, no, no way.

[00:24:13] You know, so there's some good here and then there's some bad.

[00:24:16] I don't think that there's much in the way of

[00:24:21] ingenuity, I'll say, but it is exciting at times

[00:24:25] and it definitely feels dynamic, like no scene

[00:24:30] is the same as the last one, which I appreciate.

[00:24:33] But the thing that really makes it once again is Smith and Lawrence.

[00:24:38] You know, every time that, for example, in that art gallery

[00:24:42] sequence where Lawrence is trying to eat one of the Skittles.

[00:24:47] That's great comedy.

[00:24:49] It's shot in super slow motion.

[00:24:50] Lawrence is making all these funny faces.

[00:24:54] That's all fantastic.

[00:24:56] And that's what makes a scene like that stand out other than, you know, just the

[00:25:02] random shootouts that we've seen these characters do time and time and time again.

[00:25:07] You got to add little things like that to character moments

[00:25:10] to make it stand out more.

[00:25:13] I agree. I think some of that there's a bit that you mentioned

[00:25:17] early in the pod where they kind of flip roles

[00:25:21] and Marcus, this film very much playing into the I'm invincible.

[00:25:26] Nothing can happen.

[00:25:27] No, no, literally he says, I can't die.

[00:25:33] He gets the Joey Pants ghost vision and he's like,

[00:25:37] I can't die.

[00:25:38] And it's funny at first and it quickly runs itself

[00:25:43] into the ground for me.

[00:25:44] And, you know, there's stuff like that with it, trying to drink

[00:25:48] the juice that's been shot, all the sugary stuff.

[00:25:51] And he's sticking his tongue out and you're hearing Barry White

[00:25:53] play in the background.

[00:25:54] And, you know, Mike is yelling at him.

[00:25:57] And it's just those classic esque bad boy moments where you're like, OK,

[00:26:02] this is why I come.

[00:26:03] This is why I'm paying a ticket to see this movie.

[00:26:06] And then there's other times where they just try to make jokes

[00:26:10] that just feel ultimately not great.

[00:26:14] I will say when they're trying to steal the clothes.

[00:26:18] Great moment.

[00:26:19] I thought that was more in line to like what I appreciate

[00:26:23] of Smith's and Lawrence's chemistry and them just riffing off each other.

[00:26:28] And there's a sequence where they're trying to steal clothes in a vehicle

[00:26:32] and they're being approached by two rednecks in a trailer park

[00:26:36] and their clothes are very much

[00:26:40] Reba McEntire and like

[00:26:43] why is the privacy clothes and they're wearing it

[00:26:46] and they're just trying to lie their way out of the situation.

[00:26:48] And I think stuff like that where you can tell

[00:26:52] sure, there may be over relying on their chemistry to make humor.

[00:26:57] But I think that works compared to some of the more scripted bits

[00:27:00] that don't feel as on par.

[00:27:04] I didn't particularly find that scene to be funny, maybe because it was already

[00:27:09] revealed in the trailer for me.

[00:27:10] Yeah, but I do agree with what you're saying regarding

[00:27:15] any time it feels like Lawrence and Smith are riffing off each other off script.

[00:27:20] Those are the best parts of the movie.

[00:27:22] Anytime this movie attempts to script itself,

[00:27:26] it's pretty ridiculous and silly.

[00:27:30] And I don't like that.

[00:27:32] It, like I said, takes itself so seriously, especially the stuff with Captain

[00:27:35] Howard and his family.

[00:27:37] And let's let's also mention to hear Ria Sehorne is the daughter of Captain

[00:27:42] Howard, which they never really write her any material

[00:27:47] to have her properly express how she feels about the situation.

[00:27:54] She's just like very steely and determined to capture

[00:27:58] these two guys as Captain Howard refers to them earlier on.

[00:28:03] My bad boys.

[00:28:05] Unreal. That's the actual thing that happens in this movie,

[00:28:08] like Bob Odenkirk to my little women.

[00:28:11] He's just my bad boys. I mean, like

[00:28:15] just even hearing you say it right now is so funny.

[00:28:19] It's so stupid, but it's great.

[00:28:23] But yeah, I don't think that

[00:28:26] she has significant payoff

[00:28:29] with regards to her ties to them through her father.

[00:28:33] And I think there's a missed opportunity there.

[00:28:37] The other thing I'll also say, too, is.

[00:28:40] The comedy in this movie, while I do find it funny,

[00:28:44] as I mentioned earlier, there's something that you mentioned, Gio,

[00:28:47] that also I found to be true in this, and that is it does feel like

[00:28:51] certain jokes get repeated and then run their course.

[00:28:56] And there were many moments throughout this where I felt like

[00:28:59] I should have been laughing, but I just wasn't.

[00:29:03] But then weirdly enough, there were moments

[00:29:05] where nobody else was laughing and I was laughing.

[00:29:09] And I think it was mostly because I just enjoy,

[00:29:12] you know, Martin Lawrence's facial expressions or certain line deliveries

[00:29:17] or something like that.

[00:29:18] But yeah, I don't know.

[00:29:20] It was a very odd communal theater going experience for me where

[00:29:24] I never seemed to really be in line

[00:29:27] with the rest of the audience outside of the Reggie moment.

[00:29:31] That was like pure everybody stand up, clap, fist pump the air moment.

[00:29:37] Yeah, that was great.

[00:29:38] I love how you mentioned Lawrence's reaction.

[00:29:40] There's sequence in the art exhibit.

[00:29:42] Oh yeah.

[00:29:43] That when he's like just looking to the wall back and forth.

[00:29:46] That was very funny.

[00:29:47] The great physical acting with his eyes.

[00:29:50] Do you think I and I don't know if this is like the case necessarily,

[00:29:55] but do you think that maybe the reason why Smith and Lawrence's chemistry

[00:30:00] is not as snappy this time around is because

[00:30:06] maybe it was overly scripted or perhaps.

[00:30:11] I don't want I don't want to say either one of them are losing, you know.

[00:30:16] I want to say like they're slowing down or anything like that,

[00:30:19] because that's like a silly thing to kind of tie into

[00:30:23] comedic timing, if you will.

[00:30:24] But I'm trying to figure out like what's the explanation for why their banter?

[00:30:30] Although it's still that typical bad boys banter.

[00:30:35] Why did it not land as well here?

[00:30:38] I do think bad boys ride or die.

[00:30:41] I only retained one of the writers from four life.

[00:30:45] So maybe that could be it.

[00:30:48] May overall the screenplay where the story doesn't have as emotional heft.

[00:30:53] The jokes aren't landing as much.

[00:30:55] There's a bit more inconsistencies with certain characters from past films.

[00:31:00] I don't think it's really them losing their touch of anything.

[00:31:04] If they weren't as good as they were, I think this movie would be far worse.

[00:31:08] Like by a lot.

[00:31:10] Like there's a part at a barbecue

[00:31:12] where they're talking about who's going to man the grill.

[00:31:16] And yeah, I just didn't find any of that funny.

[00:31:18] Yeah, but it was done in that typical bad boys

[00:31:22] style humor between Smith and Lawrence, where it was like, OK,

[00:31:25] I recognize that this is what we came here to see is see these two guys

[00:31:31] playing off each other and, you know, joking about stuff like this.

[00:31:34] But this is just not landing for me.

[00:31:36] Yeah, no, you're right.

[00:31:39] Talk about a moment that's dragged out and also a moment

[00:31:41] that is literally a Fast and Furious moment because it's ending

[00:31:44] on a fucking barbecue.

[00:31:46] Oh my God, all that's needed is Corona's.

[00:31:49] We get in there, Miami.

[00:31:50] Let's get Modelo.

[00:31:52] OK, let's just switch it around their version of their Corona drinks.

[00:31:57] Yeah, I get what I mean, especially with like how it ends.

[00:32:01] And it feels like the punch line was just taking way too long to get there.

[00:32:05] I still don't think it's them.

[00:32:07] I think it's more so the script.

[00:32:08] I think Smith and Lawrence

[00:32:12] are on top of their game as they are.

[00:32:15] I will say the thing that concerns me more about

[00:32:19] them in these bad boys films is that at a certain point,

[00:32:23] I know you come in with like an expectation of, well,

[00:32:27] these guys are older and sure it's a movie.

[00:32:29] It's not real, but they're getting older.

[00:32:32] And if you look at them, I'm kind of getting to a point

[00:32:36] where it's like there's no way that these two guys are just physically able

[00:32:40] to just keep doing this at their age.

[00:32:43] But as the thing goes, I think at some point.

[00:32:46] I don't know about you and maybe people feel differently about this.

[00:32:50] I would not mind seeing an old man

[00:32:55] bad boys movie where Will Smith and Mark Lawrence have graze

[00:32:58] and the jokes are about how they're too old to be doing this shit.

[00:33:03] Danny Glover style, you know?

[00:33:05] But they're at the age where they have graze.

[00:33:08] They're like Will Smith spray on hair right now is more apparent than ever.

[00:33:12] I look at his goatee. I'm like, OK, but I understand that.

[00:33:15] But I'm saying I'm saying they should lean into it,

[00:33:17] like actually really lean into it harder, you know?

[00:33:21] Yeah. Would that be the last one, though?

[00:33:23] Like, do you think if they really went down that approach that

[00:33:27] hypothetically the next bad boys that they play into?

[00:33:30] OK, they are older, which they kind of do in for life.

[00:33:32] Like Marcus is like, oh, I need glasses.

[00:33:35] And all this.

[00:33:36] And he literally just doesn't.

[00:33:38] And this movie anymore, I'm talking like senior citizen old like I.

[00:33:41] Oh, you're talking about like wheelchair walker like.

[00:33:44] Yeah, I want to see a bad boys film where these two guys, like I said, are

[00:33:49] way past their prime, not not like slowing down.

[00:33:54] Got to, you know, settle in with the family,

[00:33:57] like because that's what they've been doing now,

[00:33:58] but let these last two films, right?

[00:34:00] So so more like Bruce Willis in red.

[00:34:04] Type old like Kevin Malkovich and Helen Mirren type.

[00:34:08] Wow, what a comparison that I was not thinking of.

[00:34:11] No, Jesus.

[00:34:17] Because like you want them older, but like

[00:34:19] they still have to physically be able to do some of this stuff.

[00:34:22] Like, let's be real.

[00:34:23] Like you can get around a lot of that with stunt men and computers nowadays.

[00:34:28] Come on.

[00:34:30] You know this.

[00:34:32] They pull off whole action scenes in these Fast and Furious movies

[00:34:35] or Avengers movies where none of the actual stars are involved in most cases.

[00:34:40] Yeah, I just feel.

[00:34:43] For life was the perfect ending,

[00:34:46] and this feels like an epilogue that no one asked for,

[00:34:51] but also kind of, I guess they did because the last one made so much money

[00:34:55] and people loved it.

[00:34:56] Well, I just watched this and I was like, how much more of bad boys

[00:35:01] do I really need?

[00:35:01] I kind of anything diminished my interest in the series to a degree.

[00:35:06] Yeah, I wouldn't say diminished.

[00:35:08] I would say it definitely made me more hesitant for a fifth entry,

[00:35:12] depending on what angle they decide to take with it.

[00:35:15] I that's why I think that if they did do a fifth entry at this point,

[00:35:19] you can't release it right away following this.

[00:35:22] You have to wait a while and it needs to be, I think,

[00:35:26] a retirement movie for Mike and Marcus, you know,

[00:35:31] like it really needs to be true old man bad boys at that point.

[00:35:37] Because if you just do the same stuff over and over like they've done here,

[00:35:41] it's not going to land.

[00:35:43] They're getting away with it this time.

[00:35:45] I'm looking at the reviews right now, and it seems like they're

[00:35:48] just barely scraping by this time.

[00:35:51] But if they tried this again, I don't think it's going to work out for them.

[00:35:55] Well, I mean, this movie is looking to make major money.

[00:35:58] So if anything, it shows that people are still down with the bad boys.

[00:36:02] What was your favorite set piece in the movie?

[00:36:04] Oh, probably the Reggie moment.

[00:36:08] I think that's the perfect balance of the comedy.

[00:36:10] Like it's cutting back and forth to, you know, all of them

[00:36:13] watching it through the ring camera.

[00:36:15] And Lawrence is just having funny reactions.

[00:36:18] Even even seeing Smith react to it.

[00:36:21] I just it channels back to when you first see them

[00:36:23] and they're just bullying this poor kid who's just trying to go on a date

[00:36:26] with Marcus's daughter.

[00:36:29] And now to all these years later, they're the old heads.

[00:36:32] And he's this young guy and he's John Wick, apparently.

[00:36:36] And, you know, it gives also some stuff for Alexander Ludwig

[00:36:41] and Vanessa Hudgens to do.

[00:36:42] I know there's a storyline with them in the movie that is predictable

[00:36:47] as soon as they arrive at Ludwig's door.

[00:36:49] They are like, OK, I know what's happening here.

[00:36:51] And it's never really played into much either after.

[00:36:55] But I would say the Reggie moment and the prison, the prison action is great.

[00:36:59] But that was so short.

[00:37:00] It was really more so to just show you where Armando is at this point

[00:37:04] in his life, host bad boys for life.

[00:37:07] And just to get you an idea, it's like, oh, yeah, this dude is still

[00:37:10] like one of the baddest people out here.

[00:37:12] You know, my favorite moment in the movie is.

[00:37:14] Well, is it is it the action sequence, quote unquote,

[00:37:17] where he is asking if them dogs are fresh?

[00:37:20] No. Oh, man.

[00:37:25] No. I was going to say the Michael Bay cameo.

[00:37:29] I sure I was watching it.

[00:37:32] It happens. I'm like, OK.

[00:37:33] I think it's also because it was in the middle of, again,

[00:37:35] the bit I was already growing tired of of Marcus not dying.

[00:37:40] And Michael Bay just strolls up with his flowing hair.

[00:37:43] And I'm like, yeah, sure.

[00:37:45] OK, why not?

[00:37:48] I also will say that I

[00:37:51] appreciated that more than the cameo

[00:37:55] from fucking DJ Khaled.

[00:37:59] I like that one.

[00:38:00] Oh, I thought that was good.

[00:38:02] He was in the last one.

[00:38:03] I do not like that, man. I'm sorry.

[00:38:06] I like that more than the Tiffany Haddish one.

[00:38:08] I will say of a Tiffany Haddish scene.

[00:38:10] I actually quite enjoyed it.

[00:38:11] I thought that was actually pretty well done.

[00:38:12] As soon as she showed up, I was like, OK, all right.

[00:38:16] Although like funny dialogue between them and again,

[00:38:19] you can tell they're kind of riffing a bit.

[00:38:21] But I was just like, really?

[00:38:22] And then it goes from Tiffany Haddish, you step outside to DJ Khaled.

[00:38:27] Yeah, DJ Khaled.

[00:38:29] Like, I'm sorry. Just another one.

[00:38:32] Weakest Hot Ones guest in history for the record.

[00:38:35] Yeah. If you've never seen that man's Hot Ones interview,

[00:38:38] which is funny because Will Smith's on just did Hot Ones right now.

[00:38:41] Oh, is he really?

[00:38:43] Yeah. The latest episode.

[00:38:44] Oh, man, I'm going to have to go and watch that after this now.

[00:39:17] All right.

[00:39:36] As we get to final thoughts here, Bad Boys Write or Die,

[00:39:39] Gio, laid on me any other final thoughts you have on this entry in the franchise?

[00:39:44] I think we really satisfied as much as we could about this film.

[00:39:48] There isn't much going on in it that isn't just

[00:39:52] seeing Smith and Lawrence riff off each other and then action.

[00:39:56] Joey Pants drinking the first reformed cocktail of Pepto Bismol

[00:40:00] and whiskey is always something I enjoy in my movies.

[00:40:04] That's great.

[00:40:07] I think are them dogs fresh is a line that is forever embedded in my brain.

[00:40:13] I quote it all the time with my friends like dogs brush.

[00:40:16] Like, come on. It's so dumb.

[00:40:18] It's so good. Oh, Marcus, I need a ginger ale.

[00:40:22] There's another one that's up there.

[00:40:23] There's a couple of lines in this that are just absolutely hysterical.

[00:40:29] And most of them come from Lawrence.

[00:40:31] Yeah. Just the way he says stuff, you know?

[00:40:33] And then I mean, how many times do Mike and Marcus

[00:40:37] point to each other and say, now that's that bullshit?

[00:40:39] Yeah, a lot.

[00:40:41] That's that bullshit right there.

[00:40:44] I think seeing the drones implemented in some of the action sequences,

[00:40:49] that doesn't really work for me as much.

[00:40:52] Oh, no, I'm sorry.

[00:40:53] If you're going to sit here and tell me that it works for you in ambulance,

[00:40:56] which I think is awesome, by the way, but then you're going to tell me

[00:40:59] it doesn't work here.

[00:41:00] No, it was just as awesome here.

[00:41:03] No, I think it's far better implemented in ambulance.

[00:41:06] I think, you know, it's funny watching Michael Bay and then a deal

[00:41:11] and below both implementing drones and their action sequences

[00:41:14] that like these phase of their careers.

[00:41:17] I still think it's better in ambulance.

[00:41:18] I that is a nitpick.

[00:41:20] I feel that post covid a lot of action filmmakers

[00:41:24] have really tried to implement drones

[00:41:27] and their action sequences, and it doesn't work most of the time.

[00:41:31] I'll take it a step further.

[00:41:32] I think a deal and below have studied Michael Bay.

[00:41:36] Yeah. And I think they do their best to emulate his style.

[00:41:40] I agree in this film, I would say even more so than the last one.

[00:41:45] And there are times where I recognize it.

[00:41:47] And then there are times where it's not quite

[00:41:51] reaching the heights of what they would be able to accomplish.

[00:41:55] Yeah, but I appreciate that there is at least an attempt to create

[00:41:59] some sort of kinetic continuity, if you will.

[00:42:03] Yeah, I agree.

[00:42:05] There is a sense that even though they have this different energy

[00:42:08] approach to their action filmmaking, they try to keep it somewhat homogenous

[00:42:11] and the overall substance of what makes bad boys bad boys.

[00:42:15] And it's still there.

[00:42:17] Again, it's still better than the gray man's drone sequences,

[00:42:20] which are some of the most importantly implemented and edited things

[00:42:23] I've seen in an action film.

[00:42:26] Other than that, you know, it's a fun movie.

[00:42:29] It's not really something you're going to remember

[00:42:32] probably five hours after you've seen it, besides all them dogs fresh.

[00:42:36] If you want to go see Will Smith, do Will Smith things.

[00:42:39] This is the movie.

[00:42:40] I feel like this is the movie he actually really needs right now, his career.

[00:42:44] And I feel also that look at the box office opening weekend for this movie,

[00:42:49] which is looking pretty damn solid, maybe more than solid.

[00:42:54] People don't really care what happened with Will Smith and slap like that.

[00:42:58] I think, you know, having Emancipation come out as your first film post

[00:43:02] King Richard and everything was not the greatest move.

[00:43:05] And also it just wasn't a great film.

[00:43:07] It's also a shame, too, because Smith, I thought, was like

[00:43:10] delivering some pretty good work in it and nobody noticed it or cared.

[00:43:15] I agree. I think he is what shined above that film.

[00:43:19] The physical commitment to that performance was extraneous.

[00:43:22] And I applaud him for that.

[00:43:24] But here, you know, I think I've been doing King Richard

[00:43:27] and you went into the lane of I'm doing biopic Oscar

[00:43:31] and then try the controversy, stepping into the thing that popularized you

[00:43:36] to a degree of being I'm the Hollywood star.

[00:43:39] I can lead a movie.

[00:43:41] I'm charming out the wazoo.

[00:43:43] That's what people like.

[00:43:45] And they're going to get more.

[00:43:46] They like when they come see bad boys ride or die.

[00:43:49] That's the thing is that at the end of the day here, this is very much

[00:43:53] just giving people what they want.

[00:43:55] But I think that in

[00:43:59] doing that at a bit of a bare minimum

[00:44:02] and not introducing anything completely new here or

[00:44:08] finding a way to do something more interesting, like I was saying before,

[00:44:12] the most interesting aspect of this movie is Mike and Marcus behaving differently.

[00:44:18] And I wish that the franchise had done something like this

[00:44:21] sooner between the two because it just feels like a natural thing to do.

[00:44:25] But. There is a lack of interest

[00:44:30] and intrigue in these supporting characters, everybody else feels like so underwritten.

[00:44:37] And when you walk away from it, you say, OK, yeah, that was a bad boys film.

[00:44:42] But it wasn't a great bad boys film.

[00:44:46] And also to some people will probably listen to this and go, well, Matt,

[00:44:49] when was the last time the bad boys film was great, period?

[00:44:51] I don't go to see bad boys movie to see a great movie.

[00:44:53] You know, I they all are.

[00:44:55] I just go to have a good time.

[00:44:56] And in that regard, sure, you will likely have a good time with this.

[00:45:01] I imagine so.

[00:45:05] I don't really have anything else more to add than that.

[00:45:09] My grade out of 10 for this, I

[00:45:13] went back and forth here quite a bit, to be honest with you.

[00:45:18] I would rate it a five out of 10.

[00:45:21] It's not an endorsement necessarily, but at the same time, it's just.

[00:45:28] It's so weird, it's like kind of for me, it's a film that is.

[00:45:33] Just there, it feels like it should be a bigger deal than what it actually is.

[00:45:38] But at the same time, I think that's what the last one was.

[00:45:40] The last one was like this complete surprise where I never in my wildest

[00:45:44] dreams expected the last one to be as good as it was and to be as enjoyable as it was.

[00:45:48] Hell, it's my favorite one of the three where this one,

[00:45:51] it does feel like this is the movie that I expected to get with the third film.

[00:45:57] And so a bit of the magic is lost.

[00:45:59] A bit of the spark is lost.

[00:46:01] But at the same time, it is still a bad boy's film.

[00:46:04] So I'm mixed on it overall.

[00:46:08] Five out of 10 for me, Gio, what about you?

[00:46:10] I'm a strong five out of ten.

[00:46:12] OK, so we're pretty much aligned here. Yeah.

[00:46:14] Hmm.

[00:46:16] So have they announced anything about another one at this point or?

[00:46:21] Let's be real. It's going to happen.

[00:46:23] I just feel like it's going to happen.

[00:46:25] I could see this movie having legs for a bit.

[00:46:27] I don't know what really comes out next.

[00:46:30] That's major.

[00:46:32] There's stuff.

[00:46:33] There's a few.

[00:46:35] I mean, though, I'm being negative in a way of just I don't know.

[00:46:38] I'll be good.

[00:46:39] I think at least with a film like Bad Boys, there's a sense of familiarity

[00:46:43] that when you go to it, like we've kind of talked about,

[00:46:46] you know what you're getting and I can see that helping this movie's box office legs.

[00:46:50] It's getting tracking like what a 50 mil opening weekend in the US, which,

[00:46:54] you know, is stuff we kind of wish that like Furiosa was making,

[00:46:57] although far, quote unquote, less accessible,

[00:47:00] not as a generally wide accepted franchise as Bad Boys.

[00:47:07] The other thing to also point out here about Bad Boys

[00:47:09] I think is going to be very interesting is just the public's reaction to Will Smith.

[00:47:14] I do think that enough time probably has passed

[00:47:19] since the slap that happened

[00:47:22] early 2022.

[00:47:24] And here we are now, midway through 2024.

[00:47:26] I just get this feeling that either most people have forgotten

[00:47:31] and moved on or they don't care.

[00:47:33] Yeah, they don't care.

[00:47:35] Yeah, it was blown out of proportion.

[00:47:38] Of course, like the wrong time and everything. Sure.

[00:47:42] They were acting like this guy murdered someone on the Oscars stage.

[00:47:45] Like, let's calm down.

[00:47:46] Let's also be clear.

[00:47:47] You what he did was I mean, like, come on.

[00:47:51] Sure. I cool.

[00:47:53] I should not be. That should not be condoned.

[00:47:55] Wrong time and place.

[00:47:57] You're going to do that behind the stage. Sure.

[00:47:59] But I think, too, that if you slap somebody behind stage

[00:48:02] and not in front of a million millions of people, I still don't think that that's right.

[00:48:07] Sure. But I mean, again, the way that everyone reacts to this was acting like

[00:48:11] he straight up murdered someone on stage.

[00:48:13] I think it was blown out of proportion.

[00:48:16] We're looking at his career right now, this other lens of, oh, blah, blah, blah.

[00:48:20] Will he bounce back? Is he over?

[00:48:22] And I think what you said, time has passed.

[00:48:25] Also, I don't think anyone cares anymore.

[00:48:27] People just see Will Smith in a movie.

[00:48:29] They're like, oh, yeah, Will Smith kind of missed that guy.

[00:48:31] I want to see him back on my screen.

[00:48:33] And I do, too.

[00:48:34] I want to see him do more stuff.

[00:48:35] I know they're prepping like I am legend, too.

[00:48:38] And he's doing that with Michael B.

[00:48:39] Jordan. So it's only a matter of time

[00:48:42] till he's going to bounce back bigger and better than ever.

[00:48:44] You know, I don't know about that, but we'll see.

[00:48:48] We'll see what happens.

[00:48:50] All right, Gio, where can they find you on the Internet?

[00:48:53] You can find me on Twitter at the Giovanni Logo in a letterbox at Gio 52.

[00:48:57] And you can find me at Next Best Picture.

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