Ep 244- Ulajh, Auron Mein Kahaan Dum Tha, Modern Masters Rajamouli

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, this is Asim. This is Sujoy. This is Amrita. And you're listening to Khandaan- A Bollywood

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[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, and welcome to a new episode of Khandaan Podcast. My name is Asim Berni and I'm

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: joined with my lovely cohost Amrita and Sujoy.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, everybody.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Like when the guests go away and you're like, it's just the three of us.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you saying something about my shakal, Asim?

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Hadn't you already done?

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Himmat aate toh mu pey aake bol.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think we also, we're probably gonna go on a little break now, right?

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think this, I don't know. We've recorded one for Bajajath. We might do one

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: for Patreon. So there's a bit of content coming and we on and off, we will probably

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: be doing things for TikTok and there might even be an essay. So we will be around,

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but we won't be doing a pit like a show recording until probably beginning of

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: September, I think that's what I unless you're still off in the beginning of

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: September.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm off on the big in the beginning of September.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So yeah, maybe mid September, maybe we might get a guest on as a

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: replacement. Let's see. But I think I'll be honest, I need a break, guys. I

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: really need a break like I so joy you're already taking a Twitter break,

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: right? You're on a social media break at the moment. I'm the same my brain

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: is fried. And I'll be honest, like just even like obviously, because

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Twitter and TikTok is the place you get news about the things we like

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: about the conversations we want to have with our friends or the news, the

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: gossip. But that's also the place where there's like just literal murders

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: happening in front of our faces. And I need a break, you know? So yeah, I

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: think it'll be good. We'll come back fresh. And what do you think,

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Amrita? A break is good now?

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Need a break. Like it's just I'm Yeah, I'm I don't know what is

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: happening. Like everyone I know is just exhausted. And this doesn't

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: feel like work to me, like, you know, just coming and like recording and

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: everything. But what does feel like work to me is actually watching the

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: content. You know, like hanging out with you guys has never worked for

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: me. Like that is like this is relaxing. And it's fun. And it's a

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: welcome break for like everything that's happening in my life. And I

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: always look forward to like spending time with you guys. But like we just

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: recorded an episode about Burzakh and I'd only watched the first episode and

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I needed to watch the other episodes. And I was like, what's that

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Greek character Atlas? That is just like, or Sisyphus, who's just like,

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, pushing that stone up the mountain. That was how I finished

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Burzakh, which is not how you should engage with any kind of art,

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, like, like that is not fair to the people who made it. Yeah, it's

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: not fair to the people who like to listen to this podcast. And I just

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: need to just disconnect for a while from like, you know, like watching

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: things that I don't want to watch necessarily. And just like surround

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: myself with things that I do want to do and do want to watch and come

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: back to you like stronger, better, meaner, all the things that that you

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: come to Khanbhan for.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think in the meantime, it will also give us space to hear from our

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: listeners. So if you are a Patreon, patron, if you are a listener, drop us

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: an email at you podcasting at gmail.com. Let us know your hot takes,

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, the things that you absolutely want us to talk about when

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: we come back. You know, if you've discovered older episodes or you've

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: come back, give us those thoughts, you know, we'd love to hear and I think

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: probably when we come back, we might do like another listeners episode, or we

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: might even do a live hangout because we haven't done that in a while. That

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: could be fun too. So we'll be back.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: In the meantime, like, you know, we do have like an essay about Madhuri

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Dixit coming up, for instance. And we're working on like other essays

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: like Asant and Sujai are both like, working on these essays, they're

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: just waiting for the right mahurat and you know, the chance to be in the

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: right phase in the sky before they record it.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think this is what we need. We need a little break from everything

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: else we're doing on the background to just have like five minutes of time

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: to write a damn script, right? Like these things, they're always on the

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: back end because like even the dirt and sorry, this is becoming like

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: inside baseball or something. But like the dirt episode we did, I had to

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, yeah, I want to write something that is accessible,

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: affordable and maintainable. I don't want to just sit there and go

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: for people, right? Like, that was a lot more work than I expected,

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: right? So that takes up my time. And then I can't do any other

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: things. And it's just a lot going on, man. And yeah, I think

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: it will be good. And we haven't had a break in a while. So I

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Amrita, you watched, let's get into, I'm really keen to hear your thoughts about

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Aur Om Me Kahan Tamta, because I'm fascinated by this movie and I haven't had a chance

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to watch it but you were kind of positive about it if I'm not mistaken.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think if this movie had come out on streaming then it would have performed much better

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: than it did on the big screen. There's like, this is not the kind of movie that is going

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: to work in 2024 on the big screen. And the fact that they had a theatrical window for

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: its release means that they kind of try to hedge their bets a little bit. So you have

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: like the Ajay Devgn character who is, you know, like this entire movie is about

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: love of the kind that, you know, the poets write about and it's elevated and it's

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: mystical and it's self-sacrificial and like all that kind of stuff. Like it's an epic

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: love story. And then they're like, oh no, but it's releasing in 2024 on the big

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: screen so we need to make sure that, you know, the unwashed masses will also watch

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: it. So, you know, so he's also like a badass and he is like beating up people, etc.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's Ajay Devgn in jail. And it really doesn't work. Like that whole thing

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't really work. Also if your USP for the movie is that Ajay Devgn and Tabu

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: are playing star-crossed lovers and you basically give that portion, like you know,

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: like Tabu and Ajay Devgn basically have about 15 minutes of face time with each

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: other. That really doesn't work for me. Like if you are selling an epic love story,

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: then have the balls to like make it an epic love story and also center the two

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: people upon which that story is being sold. And then you make a you make a

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_03]: handi of biryani and there's only two chicken pieces in it. Exactly. That was

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: basically what this movie was like. And I was telling Asim actually that I don't

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: think Sujoy would like this movie in any case, but I think Asim would like this

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: story. Like, you know, he would have liked this movie. I think he and his wife could

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: have watched this together. And you probably will watch it, right?

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I will. There's something about this movie from the trailer just kind of

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: hooked me. Sorry I'm laughing because I've just thought of handi me kahan dumdum

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: No, this title is terrible. Like this is one of the top worst titles ever. Not even like this year,

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: like ever. Like what the heck is this title? It's every bit as bad as like

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: kabhi sautin kabhi saheli, like whatever that was, you know, it's terrible.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: If you want to prove Asim wrong, please vote for handi me kahan dumdum.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but also I want to ask you Amrita, how this is not the type of movies

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Neeraj Pandey makes, right? So how is that aspect of it?

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Before I went to watch this movie, I saw somebody I was trying not to see any

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: spoilers, but somebody on Twitter described this movie as Veer Zara meets

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Drishyam. And I was like, what? And so I went in and like I immediately saw what

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: they were talking about because it is Veer Zara meets Drishyam, funny as that sounds.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is like, I saw the twist in the tale coming like a mile away.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, when you watch this movie, you also will know immediately when the big

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: thing happens. You will know immediately what the twist is. Like there is no way

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that anybody who's ever watched a movie before in their life, like not even like

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_00]: thrillers or like mysteries. If you have watched a movie, you know what the

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: plot twist is going to be. So that just kind of fell flat.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: The funniest thing to me and like the biggest plot twist was that Shantanu

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Maheshwari plays young Ajay Devgan. So I'm like, wow, that is some hard labor.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But also Saiman Jarekar plays the young Tabu and she is excellent.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I really like her. I really liked her and she has this old world

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: quality about her and she doesn't look like all the other girls.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I really liked it. And I really like Shantanu Maheshwari as well.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, he's I like him in Gangubai.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I like him here. He is very, very watchable.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Yeah, no, I think I'll definitely be watching this when this comes out on

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: streaming. There's something about it that just appeals to me and it's one of

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: those movies where everybody like didn't like it and I'm like going to prove them

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that I like it. I don't know.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You also saw Uluch and you also said I might like that one.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I did not say that you would like that one.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I said it was the stupidest movie that I watched in a very long time.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So everyone online has been talking about like, oh, like, you know, it's

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Janvi failed Nepo Kid. She is ruined another movie.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Janvi Kapoor is the least of this movie's problems.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Janvi Kapoor is actually one of the strengths of this movie.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: She is actually like really good at this movie and she does the best that

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: she can with it. But the thing is, like, this is a spy thriller that has

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: been written by somebody who has never actually watched a spy thriller.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So all the entire plot rests on Janvi's character being a dimwit.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that is like literally it. And apparently, like India doesn't know how

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to train its diplomats. That's the foundation for this movie.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So based on something real that happened?

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They do like start the movie by saying, you know, like, this is a shout

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: out to the people in the Foreign Service who are at war every day or

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: something. And I was just like, OK, great for you.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But it genuinely is like really stupid.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a whole Pakistan subplot, but it's not what you might think.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to ask you.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it is not what you think it is.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It is like very like, you know, like, yeah, when you watch it,

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll just be like, why did this happen?

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But not in the usual way.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And also, there's this there's this point in the film where she's

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: talking in French to the French ambassador and literally the friend

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and I that went to watch this movie together.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We burst out laughing because it was genuinely one of the worst

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: French accents I have ever heard in my life.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she didn't even try, bro.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she was just like, you know, she was just like Montplaisaire,

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: votre excellency.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, what?

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: What is that?

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She said it in the exact same accent that she has when she's

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: like speaking in English.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It was hilarious.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, ullaj, avoid, auto mein kahan tha.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe one time watch on streaming.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not a Janviz Razi, basically.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what it was trying to place it as right.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But both Gulsian Deva and Roshan Mathew are excellent in it.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And also there was like this this weird thing that happened where

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: like, you know, like her dad is being played by the guy that

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: played Sridevi's husband in English Winglish.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, oh, like, you know, and she was like his

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: she's like a daddy's girl in the film.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, oh, she would have been so much better

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and more believable even in like a really poorly written role

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: like this.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So I just missed Sri all over again.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: She's been on Janvi has been on like a like a promotional

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like whirlwind tour, right?

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: She's got this one coming out.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She's got another one coming.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: She had Mrs and Mrs Mahi that came out not too long ago,

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: which is now on Netflix, I think.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she had the new song from Deva.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it also came out.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you guys think?

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen to the song or what?

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Again, like I don't it's just a teaser.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the full song is out again.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, like I don't get what everybody's problem

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: is with that that song.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you saying like, you know, everyone's like, oh, my God,

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: he looks so much older.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They have no chemistry.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, yeah, like that's do you not know how Telugu cinema works?

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we just saw Mahesh Babu with like Sri Leela in Guntur

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Karam that was like earlier this year.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you seriously like surprised that Janvi would come

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: opposite Junior NTR?

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't get it.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: How old is Junior NTR now?

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's in his late 30s, if I'm not mistaken.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, we've seen worse than you know, like it's like literally

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: we have Vani Kapoor and Akshay Kumar at the moment at the same time happening.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's 41.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm team Janvi all the way.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to hear me say anything bad.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think she looks like a million bucks in that song.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she dances really well.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to watch Ulaj.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to watch the bad French accent and I'm going to forgive her.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Just going to forgive her.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, no, I'm yeah, I'm unfortunate that Ulaj didn't work for you.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking that might be a good one too.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So Joy, you and me, no, you watch Brinda.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go there first.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Just a minor footnote or header, whatever.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like the Apple TV problem when they have so much great content

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_03]: but they don't market it enough for it to occupy pop culture space

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: like the Netflix and the Amazon Prime shows do.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like this put in so much money in making these shows and get really great creators.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's also true for Sony Live when it comes to Indian content

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: because they have a lot of good streaming shows and nobody has heard of them

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_03]: unless it's like, like even scam.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody really watched the second season with the Telgi story.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And that was supposed to be good.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Rocket Boys, it came and went and only a very few selected people

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: who actively talk about streaming shows watched it

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: but nobody in the grand scheme of things, it's the prime shows

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_03]: that make the most noise.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So when I talk to you guys about this, you hadn't heard about it, right?

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a show originally made in Telugu

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: but there are dubbed versions also streaming on Sony Live.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a show called Brinda with Rishakrishnan playing the title role of this.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: She is a superintendent of police or an SI, I think.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's posted in this small town where bodies start piling up

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and they try to sort of connect the dots about this particular serial killer

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: who is killing off people.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it also goes into the sort of flashback

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: of where the actual story started or into the psyche of this particular serial killer.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And he belongs to a certain tribe and his younger sister was tried to be killed off

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: in a tribal ritual and he sort of rescued his mom

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: and then the rescue mission failed but he sort of survives

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: but the mom gets killed off in front of him and I don't know what exactly happens.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't finished the series yet, but it's really well written, it's really well acted,

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_03]: it's structured in a way that how modern binge watching sort of influences you

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: to keep watching episode after episode.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of smartly structured into that.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You know how true crime was such a wave and this is sort of riding that.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_03]: There's lots of elements of true crime sort of juxtaposed with drama

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and characters suffering from their own trauma

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's what we get with the title character as well.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: If you are sort of familiar and fond of that genre,

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I would highly recommend to watch Brinda,

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_03]: but with a big warning that there is a lot of violence happening in this show.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So you might be triggered because there's violence against women,

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: against children and against just normal men as well.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. And Sony is available in the UK.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how are you watching? Is it like a VPN or like you have an account from India?

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It is an Indian account from VPN but I think they have a Sony live here.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it was a fascinating interview I had with the head of Sony

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think it was last season when our friend Suchin was streaming with Suchin.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He had a chat with the head of Sony

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and they had this clear strategy where they were going after high quality but low numbers.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just another show I had never heard of talk about

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: until Sojoy brought it up on the largest audio podcast in the world about Indian content.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So if Sony wants to make some changes and sponsor us, they can do that.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You podcasting at gmail.com.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you watch this Amrit,

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I probably didn't have a chance the first direct documentary that film studio,

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: sorry, film companion studios had made called Modern Masters Raja Maulvi.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen this Amrit?

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I have not but I want to watch both that and also Angry Young Men,

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: which is the Saleem Javed story.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That's like a new series on prime.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So these are like two things that I want to see.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely want to watch that.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we definitely want to cover it when we come back that one.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fascinated even more than this one, I guess.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was on it was like it's an hour long.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's on Netflix and I was like really struggling this week on what should I watch?

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, OK, this I can cover.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that long.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, I love documentaries or movies.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just like documentaries.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Generally, I watch a lot of them.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But when it's about movies, I feel I really love them because obviously I love movies.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we do this podcast.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also feel that there's not been that many great documentaries about movies,

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: especially about Indian movies and Indian filmmakers.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel the only real good one I thought was the Shah Rukh inner world,

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: outer world one that was done like a very long time ago.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think also Anupama Chopra was involved in that.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And I also liked cinema, cinema, Martyrdom Tak.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But even then, I was like 100 percent like this is really, really good.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so you watch this too.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of Modern Masters?

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So I am very, very much a fan of Raja Mauli.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. And I'm also a fan of movies about movies, documentaries about movies,

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: the whole behind the scenes of what goes into the madness of making movies.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And we actively watch making of movies that we cover on the show.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: This documentary sort of did not necessarily hide me the stuff that I was looking for, I think.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It did not have enough insight into the world of Raja Mauli.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of it's kind of surface level.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost talking about the movies that he has made and the journey.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's probably not suited for those who are not.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's probably suited for those who are completely new and have probably just watched RRR and want to know about this guy rather than for us who have kind of watched a few more.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't necessarily know if I'm the audience for it.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I did not get enough insight from this documentary at all.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_03]: The one thing that I gained knowledge was probably like a lot of his family is involved in the making of the movies that he makes.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So from his sister-in-law to uncle, to father, to grandfather, everybody.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And I realized that M.M. Kirvani, the music composer of all his movies, is also a family relation to him.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was probably the only thing.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But other than that, the Anupama Chopra interviews are probably similar to the ones that I watched.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Anupama Chopra interview all the other filmmakers on film companion.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So I did not necessarily get something extra out of this documentary that I would have expected.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm the same with you.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't work for me, unfortunately.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I was excited to watch it and also just kind of excited for, you know, from companion studios to do something new.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And this didn't work for me because exactly what you're saying.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't understand who this documentary necessarily was for.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I have not watched a lot of his older movies.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of gave into Magadhi.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That was probably the first one.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't really explain those first few movies.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't get into them.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't talk about like, you know, it's really about Raja Modi and his family.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's also never about his approach to moviemaking that much.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I would love it if they had broken down the mechanics of how they shot something or even how they structured the movie or the screenplay or, you know, how he manages to make those.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Was they have James Cameron in this?

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't utilize it.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my God, you have James Cameron?

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't never really elevate except him just like very, you know, superficially talking about movies.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Where is the connect between James Cameron and Raja Modi?

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I do feel there's a connect where they can create very, in a way, simple stories that get elevated by the treatment.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But what is that treatment?

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We never really understand it in this movie.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: What makes Raja Modi him?

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And it seems to be the answer that it's his family.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't feel that, you know.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing is also the way a documentary is shot.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's also just funny, right?

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's these conventions where Raja Modi is walking and like the camera is behind him.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the same conversation, but it starts off in LA.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Then it goes to Tokyo and then they're talking like in a studio in Hyderabad somehow.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's the same conversation being threaded through these three locations.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's very conveniently edited in.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But for me as a story, like as I'm trying to consume the story, it's very jarring.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And also the shots of him staring at the seaside and then the cameras in the background, it just feels like this is really odd the way it's shot.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And then also like you're in America.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You're in these very pivotal moments of his success, right?

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He's at the Oscars. He's at the Grammys.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He's in Japan.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And we never interact with any Japanese fans.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we don't know what the appeal for Japanese fans is.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: What is the appeal for?

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_01]: What is the American fan that is, you know, veering towards?

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: What is it about Raja Modi that kind of connects with these people?

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's never delved into.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, it's not really giving me anything that I...

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you said, I don't know who this documentary is for necessarily except it being a documentary.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was a bit disappointed with this one, fortunately.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, Amrita, I would not necessarily recommend this to you to watch it.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it doesn't sound like it.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of worries me about the angry young man thing because I do hope that they can delve deeper and they can have these interviews.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel maybe that's the other thing also with maybe Raja Modi.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He's very, I don't know, he's uncontroversial, I feel.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Where I feel like both Salim Javed might be a bit more controversial.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't know.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But I was watching it and I was thinking, who else do you think they could make these stories about?

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like who else? If this Modern Masters clearly is setting it up to be a series, right?

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Which other filmmakers would you like, Amrita? Would you like Sujoy, for example?

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Milan and Lutria.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Karan Johar is the obvious one, right?

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Sanjay Leela Bansali is the obvious one, I guess.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But who else would you kind of want?

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure FC won't make something on Vidhu Vinod Chopra because of conflict or interest.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But also Vidhu Vinod Chopra doesn't necessarily have all...

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He's made Parinda, obviously that's one of the most iconic pieces of Indian cinema.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But after that his work hasn't necessarily stood the test of time.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: VVC Studios on the other hand has obviously been a massive player with the Munna Bhai movies, 380th, 3K.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean 12th film was a big thing but it's not PK.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the interview with Vidhu Vinod Chopra, the biggest successes are production more than direction.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I would like to see something about the early 2000s actually.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a whole slew of what we would call B-movie makers.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Mohit Suri kind of things.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Mahesh Bhat.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Mahesh Bhat could be an interesting one, I think.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: At least the guy has RGV.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we should do those things, that's all give our ideas.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Also maybe Farah Khan, choreographer too, what she is now.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I would love it also then dealing into the complexity of not being able to make movies anymore.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That is also a very interesting thing.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: A massive filmmaker, somebody has delivered movies that are going to stand the test of time.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Box office wise and cultural cache wise has not been able to make a movie for years.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And what is that struggle?

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean she's a successful YouTuber now.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And Cookdilip I guess.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this one didn't work for me.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was saying, I was struggling a little bit with finding what to watch.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So I watched Modern Masters and then I was thinking Chandu Champion came on and then Indian 2 also dropped.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There were a few other movies like Mr. and Mrs. Mahi that I hadn't watched before.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was like should I watch? Shrikant also dropped.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I didn't watch that.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But I did go back. I felt I've joked about it a lot.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I've not watched Lapata Ladies yet.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So I finally sat down and I watched it.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And I loved it.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels weird to talk about this movie so many months later when everybody has seen it.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also feel like sometimes it's good to watch a movie after the hype, after the discussion.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when it came out there was also the whole conversation with Animal happening at that same time.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember the whole feud they were having.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He said something about Kiran Rao and then Kiran Rao responded.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times it's good to separate all of those and then just watch a movie as it is.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I actually watched it and I was immediately telling my wife, you have to watch this movie tonight.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: This is how good this movie is.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And oh my God, I love this so much.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's such good filmmaking.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I love both of the characters, both of the Poole and the other character.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Shreya.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Jaya and Shreya.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Pushpa Rani and then Jaya she was called.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And we've discussed a lot of times about masculinity on the show too.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just like a very interesting take on masculinity without it being like a red flag for like MRAs, men's right activists to go attack this movie.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it plays it very smartly and very safely.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just absolutely love this movie.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad I almost waited to watch it without anything else.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad I didn't watch Chandu Champion or, you know, Indian 2, which apparently is one of the worst movies of the year.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm really glad I got to it.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm almost surprised that this movie is not like a bigger thing than it should be.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, you just mentioned 12th fail.

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel 12th fail has reached like some sort of level where it really connected with the audience.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It really had a huge massive box office.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel Lapita ladies didn't have that legacy.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know when it exactly came out.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It was in January, on February or maybe even end of December.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I think March it came out.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So it is actually this year.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really wondering if it is even going to be a contender for the best movie of the year or the best movie that it wins awards.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel it deservedly would be up there.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't feel the conversation is there anymore.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Amrita, do you still think a lot about Lapita ladies?

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it still kind of like a movie you recommend?

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't particularly think about it, but I do.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it is.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, do you remember Little Miss Sunshine that came out?

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like that.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Miramax movies back in the day where.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't particularly think about it once you've watched it, but you're really glad that you did watch it and you recommend it to other people.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it's just one of those movies that has really broad appeal to you know.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's yeah.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So do you think still Lapita ladies?

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Again, I don't actively think about whilst we are having this conversation and you know,

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking about the scenes of that movie and what particular scene sort of brought me joy.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And like this is a happy movie.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it brings you joy by the way that it sets up the characters, the underdogs, the obstacles that they face.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they have to overcome them and the people they meet on the way like the lady who owns the tea stall at the train station.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_03]: She's the one who plays Kanchan Komri in Madgaon Express.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like her character and how she's like, obviously India is a scary place, especially for single women out in villages, in railway stations.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a very sanitized view of she did not go through the struggles of meeting predators or whatever, but she met instead people who are helpful to her.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Lapita lady that we are talking about, Poole.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But then she obviously, you know, gets back and eventually meets her family again.

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And it sort of revealed that, you know, her success in a way and also the other Jaya's story is also as important to this whole story.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And what all of them learn through each other is kind of sweet.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And also, like Ravi Kishan's character sort of taking up against the guy who threatens him is kind of like amazing.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt that switch was a bit like it needed to happen from a story point of view.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think necessarily the character was really established that way that he would have that switch because he just seemed like a despicable guy.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And I read later on, I think Amir really wanted to play that role.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Either they asked him or he wanted to play that role and they convinced him not to play it.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But that I was like, oh, I get it.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I get that switch if Amir was supposed to be here because inherently Amir is supposed to be the good guy.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Yeah.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But with Ravi Kishan, Kishan or Kishan, how do you pronounce it?

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know. It was just like a very sudden switch.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it just keeps kind of like, you know, because the movie wants to be lighthearted and it wants to be like positive.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, it's OK.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It still kind of works for me.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm really happy that I watched it before.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing, Sujoy, what you're saying also is there's so much content out there and you don't always kind of go back and watch something

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: because there's always new things coming out.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad I kind of took that moment to revisit or watch Lapata Ladies for the first time.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really happy I did.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: One more thing I think we want to discuss.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Before we end this, we have to talk about what Salman Khan wrote about Lapata Ladies on his Twitter.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Because that should be the ultimate review that any piece of content gets.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: He wrote, just saw Kiran Rao's Lapata Ladies.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, wow, wow, Kiran. I really enjoyed it and so did my father.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Congrats on your debut as a director.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Superb job.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: When will you work with me?

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, Kiran Rao has made movies before this.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He deleted it later on and he wrote it then he took out the debut or first time things.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know when Salman Khan writes a tweet and when he doesn't write a tweet like this one clearly was written and then edited by his team.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But like imagine Salman watching Dhovi Gaid though.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Hilarious.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, since you're on the topic of Salman, I think we should just talk 50 minutes about this though, right?

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: We, AP Dhillon released a song called Old Money, which not important.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That part is not important.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What the important part is, is he asked Salman to come into the song video clip and then just kick ass for three minutes long.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Sanjita had also a piece.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Avritha did you watch this clip or did you just dodge the whole thing?

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean of course I watched it.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you think?

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Was that the same house from like Baazi Fair and stuff?

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was the Andaz Apna Apna House.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is the house.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, like that's all.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I really took away from it.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was just like, it's that house.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Salman needs a break is what I got out of it.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Really?

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Sujai, what about you?

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_03]: The moment I saw this video, I thought about You Rock My World, which was probably one of the last big hits of Michael Jackson.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: That was an event that when that music video came out and for no reason it had Marlon Brando and Michael Madsen in it.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And then obviously there's Chris Tucker as well.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it kind of is that like we don't make music videos like this anymore.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is a masterpiece.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Very sarcastically, obviously.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, it's like when we were talking about in the group chat, Asim said like this is Salman's animal and I could not shake that feeling off.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Salmanimal.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that t-shirt is coming.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he saw animal, he's like, bro, let's make it like this.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But for that, like for this five minutes or less video, they really went for it.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the stunt work is quite good.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Better than Kisi Ka Bhai Kisi Ke Jaan.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good when Salman comes in, I feel.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like when the whole part at the start with Epidural was happening, it feels like any kind of influencer video about, you know, like he punching, that punching.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this doesn't isn't working for me necessarily.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But when Salman comes in, I really like the action and I was like, wow, this is like, okay, I'm an easy target to say these things.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's a skill to these kind of things that having a career of 40 years and having a certain physicality brings that you cannot replicate when ApDillon is doing the same thing with the same team like 30 seconds earlier.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, for me, it totally worked.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, I watched Old Money and funny man.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: What's funny about Old Money is I remember the clip.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot sing you the song.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If somebody puts a gun to my head, I could not sing you the song or hum the tune to you.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So the clip, the video clip is so much stronger than the song itself is.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I also don't know ApDillon as a singer or a performer.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not really a music genre that I know that well.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But I watched Old Money and then I watched Tiger 3 after that because I was like, I miss this Salman.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to watch him kick ass again.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You know my thoughts on Tiger 3 after having rewatched it?

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's still not good man.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: What a mess of a movie man.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_01]: What a mess of a movie.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really a failure of the director more than anything.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's writing and directing and both Salman and Katrina are like 100% committed to that movie.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just not working man.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just not working unfortunately.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Old Money is fun though.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a cool and then Sanjay Dada also comes in.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was something something by a Baba Sanju Datsab and all of that.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Tere liye Datsab and then somebody zinda hai.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Sanju.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't understand it.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a world where Sanjay Dada is a real person but Salman is ApDillon's brother.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, okay.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's out if you haven't seen Old Money yet.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You can stream it on YouTube and watch it there.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything else we want to talk about?

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're done now.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're done.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cool.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's it.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, we're going on a break.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna record one more episode for Patreon.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_01]: There's gonna be a Patreon exclusive where we're gonna be talking about all of the non-Bollywood stuff we watched like a lot of show, Deadpool 3, all of these things.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if Amrita will join us but let's see.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be a surprise for you and me.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Amrita, where can people find you online?

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You can find me on Twitter at AmritaIQ.

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[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.