Ep 228- Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman

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[00:00:42] better content. Visit us at patreon.com slash khandaan podcast. Hi, and welcome to a new

[00:00:50] episode of Khandaan Podcast. My name is Asim Berni and I'm joined with my lovely co-host,

[00:00:55] Amrita and Sujoy. Hello. Hello, hello everybody. Hi guys. Did I mess up the flow?

[00:01:04] I was waiting for Sujoy to say something because it's usually that way like you know Asim says hi

[00:01:08] then Sujoy says hi then I say hi. Sujoy just like blanked out and so I was like it's Sujoy's

[00:01:14] fault is basically what I'm saying. I have been accepted. Talking about Raju Ban Gaya

[00:01:22] gentleman this episode. Asim has hit the wall. He is just like.

[00:01:34] No effort.

[00:01:39] Sorry about that. Sorry about that. I should put in more effort. No, no I think.

[00:01:45] The first thought I had about Raju Ban Gaya gentleman is that it's we kind of skipped this

[00:01:56] one right like because we did the debuts of the Khans. We obviously went with Diwana first

[00:02:04] and we never ever did a Raju Ban Gaya gentleman which is actually Shah Rukhs

[00:02:10] as a main hero and it's just funny that you know after so many years of doing Khandan podcast,

[00:02:17] we're now only getting back to this movie. Do you remember Raju Ban Gaya gentleman when

[00:02:22] it came out? Like do you remember watching? Did you guys watch it in theaters or yeah?

[00:02:28] No. This is still VHS era. Yeah this is still VHS era. I think like the first Hindi movie

[00:02:33] that I watched in the theater was which came out in 1994. I want to say up until then like

[00:02:44] you really didn't go to the theater to watch Hindi movies. Yeah. You know like it was just

[00:02:50] sort of like a hangover from the 80s where everybody just switched to VHS because it was

[00:02:55] safer, less expensive etc. And then just brought out the revolution. So this movie

[00:03:03] came out in what 92-93. Yeah so like this was right before the Hamaab Kheran Khan revolution.

[00:03:12] So I don't think I watched it in the theater. What was your first Hindi movie at the cinema Asim?

[00:03:20] Because I'm gonna reveal next and you will, I will age myself. I think I know my parents

[00:03:29] used to take me earlier to cinema but I have no memory of it. The one that I have a vivid

[00:03:33] memory of is Amitabh Akela. Okay. Again that is not a movie that I would take a kid to

[00:03:41] but then like Indian and like Desi parents, not just Indians but like Desi parents in general

[00:03:46] will take their kids to like the weirdest freaking movies. So again I was raised in

[00:03:53] Belgium so we used to live at the seaside which is near the French border and at that

[00:03:58] time there was only one theater in all of Belgium that used to see show Bollywood's on one Friday

[00:04:05] at eight o'clock. So it's like our Chitrahar. So we used to have to drive two hours to get

[00:04:12] to that theater, watch the movie of three hours long and then drive back. So this is

[00:04:17] like a seven-eight hour trip right? So it's like going to Disneyland. Yeah so and all

[00:04:23] across like people from Antwerp, from like the French side everybody would just show up. The

[00:04:28] theater was packed, packed like to the brim and people would just show up late because obviously

[00:04:36] they were coming with traffic even then at that time it was crazy. So you would come in

[00:04:40] sometimes people would come in just before the interval point right? I have real memories

[00:04:44] of all of this happening. It reminds me of East is East when the entire family goes from

[00:04:50] Bradford to Manchester just to watch Pakistan and then the uncle knows the theater owner is like

[00:05:04] because my dad knew everybody like everybody knew Mr. Bernie all of Belgium knew him so he got

[00:05:10] tickets for us he knew how big of a Amitabh fan I was. So we went and you just went with

[00:05:17] that is the only knowledge you have. You have no further news except that it's an Amitabh movie.

[00:05:23] So and it was a very brutal and violent movie I remember like it's really really bad.

[00:05:28] Yeah you just watch what was available so that that's my movie. What about you Sujai?

[00:05:32] What are you? My first movie Hindi movie at the cinema is a movie that nobody probably

[00:05:37] remembers. It's a movie called Jeethe Hai Shaan Se. It has Mithun, it has Govinda, it has

[00:05:45] Sanjay Dutt. It had a very famous song by Anu Malik back in the day. This was an 80s movie

[00:05:50] released in 1987. It had a song called Julie Julie. Yeah that song yeah it is an epic movie

[00:05:59] because there is a scene where the film star Mithun is being invited into this Mahalla as a

[00:06:06] chief guest to a party and Mithun is also the actor in this movie so there are two Mithuns

[00:06:13] and it's a real one. Then it was mind-blowing to see that double role but also like this was

[00:06:19] my very first time at the cinema and to see Mithun Chakravarti expand from a tv screen

[00:06:26] to this giant like larger than life thing it was mind-blowing to my little head.

[00:06:33] So that was 88 that you saw that movie. Akhila came out in 91.

[00:06:41] And then 94 for you. I mean I'd been to the movies before. That was just like the first Hindi movie

[00:06:48] that I watched in 94. What was the first movie? Let's go into it. The very first movie,

[00:06:56] I'm sure my mom used to take me as a baby but I don't remember any of those.

[00:07:00] The first movie that I remember watching was Nijagon which came out I think in 87 I want

[00:07:09] to say 86, 87 something like that and it was playing at the Indian Film Festival which used

[00:07:17] to be held right in our backyard. So mom was like a huge Kamala Haasan fan and she was like

[00:07:23] well we need to go watch that so it was just me and my mom and we went and we watched it

[00:07:28] together. It was in Tamil which is a language I sort of understand but I'm not fluent by any

[00:07:36] means. I was tiny but I loved it and I think it's also the reason why I'll watch movies without

[00:07:47] subtitles, why I'll watch movies in different languages and you know like it's not like

[00:07:53] off-putting to me in the least to watch something that I don't understand because

[00:07:57] cinema like that movie taught me that cinema has a language of its own

[00:08:01] and you can really understand what it is as long as you can understand, follow the storytelling.

[00:08:09] So yeah Maniratnam and Kamala Haasan that was my introduction to cinema on the big screen.

[00:08:16] Sujai that movie Amitran movie was your first movie or?

[00:08:18] Yeah first movie ever but like my mom was pregnant when she went to watch

[00:08:23] a Saheb like the Bengali version of Saheb not the Anil Kapoor one but the Tapos Kal one.

[00:08:28] So does that count?

[00:08:33] No it doesn't.

[00:08:37] Such a laughing story Haasan just kills it like that.

[00:08:42] Mine was Gremlins 2, first movie I ever watched in cinema.

[00:08:49] We used to go to the cinema in Austin which is like a coastal town not too far from where

[00:08:55] I grew and they used to have these on the 4th of July they used to do for 50 Belgian francs

[00:09:01] back in the day you could just watch as many movies as you wanted because it was 4th of July

[00:09:06] you know so Gremlins was the one that I watched.

[00:09:10] What's the significance of 4th of July in Belgium?

[00:09:13] American Independence Day.

[00:09:14] But what does that have to do with Belgium?

[00:09:16] American movies I don't know I just like a thing that they used to do America

[00:09:20] celebrate America watch free movies you know.

[00:09:25] Hollywood ke paas paise ja raha hai that's the whole thing.

[00:09:29] I remember because Gremlins 2 had this amazing meta moment have you guys seen that movie?

[00:09:33] No.

[00:09:35] No I think the first one is the only one that I've seen.

[00:09:38] So it's so the Gremlins go wild right there's like tons of different Gremlins

[00:09:43] the first one just had one type of Gremlin and then they got evil but this had like a Mohawk

[00:09:47] Gremlin and a woman Gremlin like they had scientific nerdy Gremlin and the Gremlins go

[00:09:53] so wild that like in a meta moment they take over the cinema and then the reel burns

[00:10:00] like you know and the movie stops and then you're like and then the movie continues

[00:10:05] but it's like you're watching a movie theater and like people are like what's going on

[00:10:09] and you see the Gremlins behind like the projector like you know like they're burning

[00:10:13] and they're doing this and then Hulk Hogan stands up and like you know start screaming

[00:10:18] at the Gremlins to act right and it blew my mind like as a kid first Gremlins first movie

[00:10:26] and then Hulk Hogan at that time if that was not the perfect reason to fall in love with

[00:10:34] movies then I don't know what else would have been.

[00:10:37] The first movie you watch they literally tore out of the fourth wall.

[00:10:41] Yeah exactly that's why I like Jaane Manso much.

[00:10:44] Meta moments.

[00:10:47] So yeah I mean yeah I was 11 right and it was like the first time I went with some friends

[00:10:53] so it was the first time without parents and things like that.

[00:10:56] That's crazy man I would never let my 11 year daughter go to like

[00:11:00] Austin for the whole day watch movies like it's crazy.

[00:11:06] The privilege of being a boy man it's crazy yeah it hits you when you think about it.

[00:11:12] Yeah so that was my first one.

[00:11:16] Yeah let's go back to Rajiv.

[00:11:19] Let's go back to Darjeeling.

[00:11:22] Is this your life story Sujoy?

[00:11:29] I thought of you.

[00:11:31] Although you are not in Darjeeling but I was like a little boy would be working in Chabriya's farm.

[00:11:36] You end up in London.

[00:11:40] Yeah I guess the aspiration and the ambition of leaving the small town to become rich and like

[00:11:48] you know move up other socials clutter I guess that definitely I relate to.

[00:11:54] I don't know why we never get a mention of Raj's parents here like his family or anything.

[00:12:01] He just goes to the temple and then he moves to Bombay.

[00:12:05] My line was an orphan Nepali boy with big dreams ditches his friends because they have no rhythm.

[00:12:13] Yeah oh my god his dude group in Darjeeling are not dancing at all like they just picked

[00:12:19] anybody who was at the temple and like yeah.

[00:12:22] I'd forgotten about that song completely like I did not remember that song at all

[00:12:28] and then like the moment it started playing I was just like I know the song

[00:12:35] like I know the words to this song.

[00:12:37] It's like I don't know there's just like these are the kind of films that

[00:12:43] don't get made anymore like they would never be made you know like there's just no way in hell.

[00:12:49] They'd be trying to sex it up they'd be trying to make it more gritty they'd be

[00:12:53] trying to do like 50 million things with this and even the Bombay that it shows in this film

[00:13:00] you know like the the charl that he ends up at and like the way that they all behave you

[00:13:06] know and they talk about the the way they talk you know the Hindi that they're speaking in

[00:13:11] this or the Hindustani to be more exact that they're speaking in this when they refer to

[00:13:17] Shah Rukh's character they're like they call him Parvesi when at the end he's going back

[00:13:23] they're like where is he going and like one of the characters says

[00:13:26] Like he's going back to the hajji like it's a very like old-fashioned way of speech

[00:13:35] that is just very charming to me and also like the the courtship between Shah Rukh and Juhi

[00:13:43] which I need to talk about Juhi at length but the courtship between Shah Rukh and Juhi

[00:13:49] you know like he they're like fighting each other and like philosophically whatever

[00:13:54] and then like he's hanging out outside her building and he uh he says oh actually I just

[00:14:01] wanted to come see you and she's like I wanted you to come see me and like it is so cute

[00:14:07] oh my god like I was watching their love story and I was like ah this is the kind of love

[00:14:13] story my uncles and my aunties used to have like this is their love story right that era

[00:14:18] it's so cute but I think what you're saying about this cannot be made it's interesting

[00:14:22] because basically this movie could be a theater play right this whole movie is basic there's

[00:14:28] no reason for it in a way to be a movie it could be a theater play but um they could

[00:14:34] make these kind of movies before right like I was just thinking like how this could not work

[00:14:39] this could maybe I don't know how people would even do this like the economics of it wouldn't

[00:14:43] work the the distribution of it wouldn't work like like you yeah there's just no way that you

[00:14:50] will you could even attract a Juhi Chawla to be in that kind of movie anymore right

[00:14:55] it's just like it's like it's interesting because it's obviously an Aziz Mirza movie his

[00:15:00] first movie from moving from television like this is the next step in his career moving from

[00:15:06] Nukkar to this right and it's kind of you can see the resemblance it's so much Nukkar

[00:15:10] vibes the whole basti is Nukkar basically yeah it is that it's there's the moviefication of that

[00:15:15] universe into this and obviously there's Shah Rukh now introduced as the hero and obviously there

[00:15:21] is a whole story written everywhere and in many many Leire videos about you know how

[00:15:27] the infamous story of how Juhi did not want him to be because she did not believe in this

[00:15:33] not so good looking because she's just come off making movies with Aamir Khan and then

[00:15:39] this is the hero that has been introduced by Vivek Vasswani in this movie and

[00:15:44] so all of that I was thinking of it because I'm going to maybe try to play the clip actually

[00:15:50] because I of it but I I just done a few other films and then I met

[00:15:59] Vivek Vasswani who was the executive producer of Raju Bandya Gentleman and

[00:16:08] I was like okay it sounds nice so who's co-starring with me

[00:16:16] there's a new boy and he's from television

[00:16:27] I didn't have time for television I was a busy artist even then

[00:16:31] so they said no but he's very good he's a very good actor and he looks he's like Aamir Khan

[00:16:40] so I was like yeah okay if he's like that that would that would be very nice because

[00:16:45] I'd started off with Aamir so I thought

[00:16:47] I went through the sets to shoot for Raju Bandya Gentleman

[00:16:56] and

[00:17:22] anyway I was in the film and I'm just saying this in fun but

[00:17:26] I was like I was really like Aamir Khan he kiss angles Aamir Khan like that but she always

[00:17:30] thought I was good no but as I got to know him actually he was very very nice now that you asked

[00:17:37] me I remember when we started the work though he was new to films he was very confident and

[00:17:44] he was not at all like a newcomer he was more at home with the unit than I was and

[00:17:50] and I remember he came and chatted with me or you know tried to be friendly so that

[00:17:57] when we worked together there would be no awkwardness it was really good company

[00:18:01] because I used to laugh a lot at his jokes like at that time and I'm sure Amrita will

[00:18:07] balk at this idea but Aamir was a beautiful man like seen as a beautiful boy

[00:18:14] you know like and he was like the epitome of a beautiful man and then Shah Rukh is not

[00:18:21] like he's not like and I was watching it and I was like because I like I remember I wasn't

[00:18:27] immediately enamored by Shah Rukh right yeah it wasn't like the love I had for Salman like

[00:18:33] when I saw Salman I was like who is this I didn't have this with Shah Rukh because I think

[00:18:36] and I noticed this in this movie he needed a bit of settle like life with

[00:18:44] and he hadn't married by this movie like when this movie had come out I think they

[00:18:50] after this movie is when he got married to Gauri and obviously with

[00:18:53] the yes boss and everything that was the time when he moved into Mannat just after yes boss

[00:18:59] yeah so yeah I was just gonna say he has that Ranveer Singh energy that just becomes annoying

[00:19:05] at the end after a moment that he doesn't calm down so it takes me a while but yeah

[00:19:10] Amritabh Bhai Singh?

[00:19:12] I think Shah Rukh yeah like what you were saying is absolutely right like

[00:19:18] QSQT when it came out Amir and Juhi were like the poster people for the entire

[00:19:28] not just the entire country but I think for the diaspora as well you know like everybody was

[00:19:32] just like who's good looking? Amir Khan who's good looking? Juhi Chawla like and Juhi is of

[00:19:38] course like a Miss India you know just like 1984 or something so these two were just seen as the

[00:19:45] epitome of young love and young youthful beauty and like all that kind of stuff right?

[00:19:54] Shah Rukh is a completely different thing like Shah Rukh just always had that it factor like

[00:20:01] the moment you see him in Divana and he just like comes on top of that

[00:20:06] you know that motorbike you can't get your eyes off him you know there's all these stories of

[00:20:13] people who were like completely bored by Divana and they just wanted to leave the theater and

[00:20:19] then like the song starts and everybody is just like well wait a minute I just want to

[00:20:23] see what that guy is going to do for a bit for a minute and then they just keep sitting

[00:20:27] there because like it's a Shah Rukh show from then on and it's the same thing in Raju Ban Kiya

[00:20:32] Gentleman where I can see like it's such good casting to put Juhi with Shah Rukh because Juhi

[00:20:44] is just like a gentle summer breeze and she's just like very like you know like shant whereas

[00:20:52] Shah Rukh is like hyper and he's just like all over the place he's got that

[00:20:56] mullet and he's like jumping he's like hamming it up and it really helps him to have Juhi

[00:21:04] and like the two of them together are just like oh this is so meant to be.

[00:21:10] Before Red Chillies before everything we've talked about this a few times but like the

[00:21:14] Aziz Mirza, Juhi Chawla, Shah Rukh thing started here right and it went on for a long time until

[00:21:23] it eventually crashed and burned but yeah yeah it's a sad story I always get sad

[00:21:32] for them when I hear how the failure of that Dreams Unlimited I think they were called right

[00:21:37] yeah how that failed yeah but obviously they made Chalte Chalte after that and

[00:21:46] that was a big hit yeah yeah I know also Shah Rukh talks a lot about like he

[00:21:53] he looks up to Michael J. Fox as an actor and this movie really had that secret of my

[00:22:00] success bright lights big city vibes to it too right like I have not seen it just

[00:22:06] my success by the way.

[00:22:09] Ah yeah you should it's it's good for me the reference when I heard about the story and I

[00:22:16] hadn't watched Raju Bunga Gentleman and yesterday was my first time watching the whole movie

[00:22:22] throughout by the way I've watched it in bits and bits on VHS and stuff but my instant

[00:22:29] connection was that this is a Sri Charsobi's remake in a way because of you know

[00:22:36] Murmurke Na Deek and Tu Mere Saath Chal and Amrita Singh versus who is the

[00:22:45] Nadira in Sri Charsobi's.

[00:22:48] Yeah but Amrita is this a movie that you revisit a lot have you like I feel

[00:22:53] people like it but they don't love it as much as maybe you know Kabhi Haan Kabhi Na or even

[00:23:00] Yes Boss to a certain degree which are kind of all in that same sphere but I don't think this

[00:23:07] movie has you know sustained the same amount of love but it is like a it's it is a lovely

[00:23:13] movie like watching it like I didn't have a bad time like it's a good time to watch this

[00:23:19] time capsule.

[00:23:21] Yeah it is the Bombay that it captures the India that it captures the way that we used to be

[00:23:30] also the filmmaking of that era right like because it's so like so blatantly pseudo secular

[00:23:37] in all its characters from the Mahalla it's like we have to have a Parsi we have to have

[00:23:42] a Muslim guy we have to have the Christian of the Mahalla and everybody comes together for

[00:23:50] the Ganpati and everything else and there is obviously Nana Partaker giving life lessons

[00:23:55] like Nana Partaker in today's era that particular character would be a podcaster you know.

[00:24:01] Like really like Nana Partaker shtick at that time right like just talking fast and like

[00:24:06] you know complaining about the world and giving like harsh rules and stuff like that.

[00:24:15] I love that the camera loves him like the camera never cuts away he's like given

[00:24:20] to Kerr and the camera follows him you know it was yeah.

[00:24:25] My favorite thing is like when they do the crowd work for Nana Partaker's bits

[00:24:30] and sometimes the crowd is just enjoying the fact that they're standing next to Nana Partaker

[00:24:35] and they don't even they're clearly not paying any attention to what he's saying

[00:24:40] they're just like looking at him and being just like wow look at this man act I love it.

[00:24:47] I love that I have a ringside view of this man acting like it's great

[00:24:53] and Shahrukh and Nana are like they have like a really good chemistry too right like they

[00:24:58] it's not like the yeah I don't know but it's fun.

[00:25:06] Now I'm saying he wasn't a big star at that time right Nana Partaker or am I

[00:25:11] like he was more like known for art movies I guess.

[00:25:16] He had done Parinda. Parinda had come out and Prahar had come out and Prahar was big

[00:25:21] because of yeah yeah I've never seen that oh you should.

[00:25:28] But we need to talk about Amrita Singh yes Sarah like Khan Ki Ma.

[00:25:36] But do you see like okay I wasn't about to I wasn't going to bring that up but since

[00:25:40] you've mentioned her do you see what I mean when I say that Sarah just doesn't have that

[00:25:46] yeah exactly like it's the same face but the face isn't giving what we need you know

[00:25:55] and here it is you know like even with the simplest of the scenes that she does not have

[00:26:00] the most well written scenes as she's literally the rich girl and like she wants her love and

[00:26:06] it's very much Aina because you know here as well. It is so and which Aina came out next

[00:26:12] year so this is not before Aina but this I was watching and I was telling my wife about Aina

[00:26:18] I was like oh and she breaks an Aina in this. Yeah she does full Aina but I think it's also

[00:26:26] like that era where she was like just playing the scorned woman around you know Aina this

[00:26:31] Surya Banshee. Oh bless her. But I think both like I get what you're saying Amrita but she

[00:26:44] I think she just has more fire in her like you know uh Amrita Singh does and I think

[00:26:53] that's what Sara Ali Khan is missing like she's she has energy but she doesn't have like fire

[00:26:58] in her persona and yeah there's something missing maybe it's the character she's getting

[00:27:04] but again like what Sujoy is saying this is also a nothing burger character that Amrita Singh gets

[00:27:10] and she's delivering right. Yeah I think so I uh I'm a huge fan of Amrita Singh to be honest

[00:27:16] like I think she made some of the most interesting films even while doing flowerpot

[00:27:22] characters like her flowerpot characters were like very different from most of the ones that

[00:27:28] you would see um and I think what sets Amrita apart not just from her daughter but also from

[00:27:36] her contemporaries is that she's not afraid to be unlikable. You know she uh whether it's in

[00:27:43] this or in Surya Banshee like in Surya Banshee she's just like chewing through the scenery

[00:27:48] she loves it she's like I'm just an evil bitch and you will like it um like I think she really

[00:27:57] sells it you know she's just like well I'm just a woman who wants all these things and I'm willing

[00:28:03] to do whatever it is whatever it takes to get him um and she and Shah Rukh are like it's such

[00:28:11] a different energy from Shah Rukh and Juhi um and Shah Rukh does this really well where

[00:28:18] you know like you can see him sort of like wide-eyed and sweet and like just a cutie pie

[00:28:24] with Juhi and then the more time that he spends with Amrita like he's just becoming like more and

[00:28:29] more um worldly and a little less happy you know like towards the end like you can really see

[00:28:39] that he's spending more time with Amrita and he's getting everything that he wants but you

[00:28:43] can see that that earlier innocence and happiness has completely vanished on his face

[00:28:48] um and it's such a subtle thing um and he does it really well. Confused man though,

[00:28:55] Raju as a character you know like he wants to bring um uh

[00:29:04] he brings Amrita Singh to a dhaba and he brings Juhi Chawla to the Taj. It's like

[00:29:11] like what are you doing?

[00:29:16] Bring people to the approach thing and he seems like completely unaware of what he's doing

[00:29:20] and we need to talk about Raju as a character a little bit right because

[00:29:25] he is not it is kind of a shaded character in a way right like it has good shades and bad

[00:29:31] shades and he is ambitious and he wants like even to the point of being arrogant where he

[00:29:38] gets checked by Juhi right like um and then when he becomes a bit more more world-worldly

[00:29:46] the best part is when he's having chane with uh Juhi Chawla.

[00:29:52] Yeah oh yeah it was lovely and then the moment he starts getting he becomes starts

[00:29:58] being a gentleman he becomes you know arrogant and to the point where he kind of forgets

[00:30:04] where he kind of came from um and I think it's it's a really

[00:30:08] I think that's probably what appealed Shah Rukh to this character too right like I'm sure

[00:30:13] that he just took on whatever roles he wanted to at that time because he wanted to be a big

[00:30:17] star but there has to be something that also just appealed to him as a person of this is

[00:30:23] also his story right like as a boy coming out of the industry like making a mark and then

[00:30:29] becoming literally the biggest star India has ever seen um even more so than the clip of Yes

[00:30:36] Boss when Chand Tare everybody talks about like this is probably what appealed to Shah Rukh at

[00:30:41] that time right uh it's just a very it's not a standard role necessarily or a hero role

[00:30:49] to take at that time and I think that's what made Shah Rukh so different that he had kind

[00:30:54] of a different view of what kind of actor he wanted to be. Also like the hero roles

[00:30:58] that were happening at that time were all um not Amir Anil Kapoor, Sunny Deol, Jackie Shroff kind

[00:31:04] of movies and I don't think I guess Shah Rukh wanted to do action later but um this was the

[00:31:12] I don't think he's able to make choices right like he literally got introduced in this movie

[00:31:16] by Vivek Vaswani you know. I mean it's just the more you think about Shah Rukh's career the

[00:31:24] more you realize just how unique it was and how different it is from like everybody else you know

[00:31:31] because uh even Amir and Salman as industry kids when they made their debuts and the first

[00:31:37] few movies that they signed they did like very traditional leading men roles yeah uh and

[00:31:43] Shah Rukh showed up and he's like you know like doing all kinds of weird things for the

[00:31:47] first five or six movies that he does um but what that does is like it immediately differentiates

[00:31:53] him as an actor and it makes sure that the like he's sticky for the audience you know like

[00:32:00] people remember this guy they're just like oh yeah he makes these he plays these like

[00:32:05] really violent characters or negative characters or he's doing something different

[00:32:10] um and it's funny because it's like 30 years later and I still don't see

[00:32:16] I still don't see young actors making those choices you know like they show up and they

[00:32:21] immediately just want to do what everyone else is doing um instead of just doing something

[00:32:28] different I have also another theory by the way that um you know there were a lot of hero

[00:32:34] interest scenes that we remember right but with Shah Rukh the first five movies four or

[00:32:39] five movies that he did every time he got introduced there was a song involved right with

[00:32:45] diva night was um

[00:32:51] on the bike again as he goes to um the train station and with this it was every time he's

[00:32:58] on a bike or a or a jeep or a uh or a van or whatever you know and uh you don't get that

[00:33:04] with any other hero like the first time you see something introduced like that was

[00:33:09] in but you can't remember what was his introduction scene in like jaan or platform

[00:33:16] or whatever the other movies that came out after that and I think that helps the songs

[00:33:21] definitely help in you know making them any longer for people to remember yeah this was

[00:33:26] the first time I saw Shah Rukh on a car and he was fabulous singing we know the

[00:33:31] on a car dangling for his life he didn't care

[00:33:38] uh Amrita you wanted to talk about Juhi Chawla a little bit yes I love her in this she is just

[00:33:44] she's like a daisy like I love her I have like such a huge crush like this is who like in our

[00:33:51] last episode we were talking about Asim in Gajni and how that really didn't work for me

[00:33:57] like Juhi Chawla is the poster child for that kind of you know good-hearted female lead

[00:34:05] the moral center of the movie yes yeah that's who she is in this film and she just knocks it

[00:34:12] out of the park she looks beautiful she's so soft spoken uh she's one of the few people

[00:34:20] like this film that's actually dressed a little recently like Amrita Singh's wardrobe is

[00:34:25] horrendous um the way Shah Rukh's all of that is like TikTok fits yeah now everybody on TikTok

[00:34:32] is dressed the way Shah Rukh I literally wrote that down like that whole aesthetic is back now

[00:34:40] right and yeah this is Daniel Simmons basically um but Juhi is just like I mean she's just

[00:34:52] so charming uh and she's um it's this thing that the great female leads of Bollywood all have

[00:35:01] in common which is that obviously they inspire like fandom in men but they also inspire fandom

[00:35:09] in women like women are also equally like attracted to them and they find them you know

[00:35:16] like gorgeous and sexy or whatever and Juhi is such a good example of that you know um she's just

[00:35:26] an attractive person like I don't know how else to put it uh she just has that star quality to

[00:35:32] her and she also very complete character right she's sweet yes she's in love she she's also

[00:35:40] stands up for belief twice to Shah Rukh and to Amrita Singh right and then to the point that

[00:35:46] she actually breaks up with Shah Rukh's character Raju right um because they don't align anymore

[00:35:52] I think that was also very fresh um and then beside that she's just very supportive sweet and

[00:35:58] just beautiful to look at like she is so pretty in this movie it's insane especially

[00:36:04] because now the print is really nice the one I was watching on primate east I had never seen

[00:36:09] this movie in such a clear print it's just beautiful man she looks great and she I think

[00:36:16] because Shah Rukh is so all over the place like he's such a firebrand she kind of settles him

[00:36:22] a little bit and I think that's really what the what's needed in this movie I have to

[00:36:27] give props to the cinematographer of the movie Abhinav Pradhan who has by this time

[00:36:32] already shot Parinda with Vidho Vinod Chopra that's his aesthetic and it's quite inspired

[00:36:37] by the whole PC Sriram aesthetic of backlighting that we see a lot in nyanagan and all that

[00:36:43] um and she's just like there is a rapper of halo around all these beautiful people

[00:36:50] like especially Juhi so so well lit and so nicely shot I like absolutely yeah

[00:36:58] God remember the time when like movies were well lit like oh my god even like Vinod

[00:37:05] Pradhan also shot a movie called Narasimha and even that that is a very bargain bin pound land

[00:37:10] kind of a movie that you don't watch but even that movie is so relate like pretty to look at

[00:37:16] Urmila in that movie and Ravi Behal of all people yeah and also Juhi gets to be sexy

[00:37:35] it's totally ripped off like the whole sequence is ripped off but it's just funny because like

[00:37:42] instead like I think like Mere Rangme has like okay like they still feel very it's very

[00:37:48] conservative like these people are gonna bang yeah absolutely and the lyrics are that

[00:37:56] we're gonna bang but very in a very sophisticated way so that has been my question

[00:38:02] my enduring question for 30 years like quick poll do you guys think that they did the deed

[00:38:09] in in the movie we know obviously in the movie it's it's they have to do right like I mean

[00:38:17] I think they have to both with Amrita Singh and with Juhi Chawla like it just does like

[00:38:22] okay maybe this is my brain now but I just cannot understand how they would not be banging

[00:38:27] involved right yeah because the the song is like very like you know I'm gonna dress you up in

[00:38:32] like my fantasy and then I'm gonna like you know then we're gonna like make sweet love kind of

[00:38:37] yeah she's also like exactly so I don't know but yeah it would make sense if they had

[00:38:48] but also it would make sense if they didn't but again like these are the questions we need

[00:38:54] to ask our couples and stuff like that you know like what were you guys banging or not like

[00:39:00] what were you guys doing holding hands on the seaside that's what imagine like

[00:39:09] the thing is like this generation we're talking about like the generation before us

[00:39:14] compare that to the generation now that's like three generations away right like how much

[00:39:20] different is the tinder grinder world culture from this world right like it's literally a culture

[00:39:27] like even we do not we cannot understand it right like what were these people doing

[00:39:32] because obviously people were having affairs and people were like you know getting pregnant and

[00:39:36] all so all of the things that are happening were happening then too but why is there like

[00:39:43] like the cinematic portrayal of it so chaste you know I don't know

[00:39:51] the cbfc yeah it's interesting though like as we said like this is such a time capsule and it

[00:40:01] Raju Bangya Gentleman does not stand out as much as yes boss or the later movies is because

[00:40:07] it's still coming out of its shell it's the first of its like the debut of its director so

[00:40:13] he's also trying to find his foot right so you and also like especially with Jatin Lalit

[00:40:19] as the music director he's also the soundtrack feels like an amalgamation of many soundtracks

[00:40:26] that we've heard from elsewhere like so there you get Juhi dressed almost like Ayesha Jhulka

[00:40:32] in Khiladi the same frock and all you know that fashion and laveria is almost like

[00:40:38] Sheher ki pariyo and then that particular banging song is also that dekha teri mastini gaon me from

[00:40:45] yes from khiladi it's kind of like that that's why it feels like you know

[00:40:52] it's a bit of a mixture of a movie yeah did you guys watch nukkad back in the day I think

[00:41:00] tell people what nukkad was maybe they don't know I remember watching it but I have no memory of it

[00:41:05] because it was like that and humlog and all of that it just you know went past my like

[00:41:12] active brain cells I suppose like back then but it was a very long-running like these

[00:41:18] I would say these sweet kind of stories situated in like a small kind of town or a village

[00:41:25] maula basti kind of situation and there were a few of these there was like nukkad there was

[00:41:30] also wagle ki duniya remember that one and he is here as well yeah and there was these

[00:41:38] long-running series on ztv at least here in in belgium I don't know what how you guys

[00:41:48] and yeah so they used to just run and like have these like moral deals in it and stuff

[00:41:53] like that and they launched a lot of these actors that we then know either as supporting

[00:41:57] actors or yeah Shah Rukh is probably the only one that kind of were there any others that

[00:42:01] kind of came out from it and became like big stars or all of them were there right like

[00:42:08] Shah Rukh, Ritu Raj, Anjan Srivastava like all of these people were out of that

[00:42:15] that particular milieu yeah Mukesh Khanna like all of these the whole cast of Abharat

[00:42:22] and Ramayan like yeah I'm going through the name Pawan Malhotra is in there yeah yeah yeah

[00:42:31] and Pankaj Kapoor's ex-wife as well what's her name Neeli Maazmey

[00:42:38] and I imagine also a lot of like behind the camera talent also kind of came through from

[00:42:42] that right like filmmakers writers and things like that so I don't I don't think it's

[00:42:47] available anywhere streaming or anything with that I think it is on YouTube yeah is it yeah

[00:42:54] yeah and they were all like kind of like nice stories right like and even sometimes

[00:42:58] dealing with like social issues yeah tougher yeah social issues so did you ever watch Buniyat

[00:43:07] no no no there's a there's a there's a doodh darshan yeah I believe so I can't

[00:43:14] yeah I can't but it was like Lajjuji and like it was like centering the partition and it

[00:43:20] basically follows oh yeah no yeah I remember that one that was a big hit it was a huge hit

[00:43:25] I didn't watch it Kamaljeet yeah yeah um and it was directed by Ramesh Siddhi

[00:43:35] yeah well yeah his wife was also like you know the starting opposite

[00:43:39] Kamaljeet I can't remember the name off the top of my head but I'll remember in a bit hang on

[00:43:45] yeah yeah no that I remember that that was a big one yeah 110 episodes yeah it was huge it was

[00:43:52] yeah it was like a major thing like it just went on forever but that was like the first

[00:43:56] Indian soap Kiran Juneja that's her name um and uh yeah it was like all of it like like

[00:44:06] Asim said they were obviously like made by the government so nation building you know yes

[00:44:15] nation building and like moral models and like you know uh which back then it was quite

[00:44:22] different from what it is today so and then my husband came and made Swarvimaan and just

[00:44:28] shook it all up yeah yeah but I want to ask you this though did this India ever exist

[00:44:35] or is it just like an idea perpetuated through this media did this ever exist or not I remember

[00:44:41] it existing like I remember it being like you know like people could actually celebrate each

[00:44:47] other and not like constantly want to like murder each other uh people weren't constantly

[00:44:53] talking about like oh he's a Muslim he's a Christian how dare he do this how dare he do

[00:44:57] that like none of that shit uh people will get intermarried and like it would be fine um

[00:45:04] like it definitely existed and for like a while like but it was probably more urban I want to

[00:45:10] say that yeah maybe like for me this was an India that exists in like in a far far away

[00:45:17] distant land for me like that was not the India that I grew up in because obviously I

[00:45:22] grew up in a small town where I am right now uh yeah this was a view into an India that I

[00:45:31] didn't know in a way but was it then aspirational or was it yeah not rich

[00:45:38] aspirational in the rich elitist way because these are not rich stories but this is more

[00:45:44] like oh these are good morals to have as a good person but I mean in a way now it seems

[00:45:51] to be like the divide between small town and big town is like these big towns are like

[00:45:56] liberal elitist you know metropolis is where anything goes and you know we are the true

[00:46:01] blue values of what you know it has shifted a little bit where if if you're looking at

[00:46:07] it from a distance then maybe it's something that you say oh we could all live together

[00:46:12] and all of these people are good people too I think what sets like places like Delhi

[00:46:17] and Bombay apart is that when you're in a big city like that you don't really like the

[00:46:23] focus is so much on survival especially if you're like from the lower income classes

[00:46:28] that unless you have somebody coming from the outside and like feeding you ideas

[00:46:34] on a day-to-day basis you are so consumed by the need to survive and you don't have time to

[00:46:39] like sit around thinking like this one is a Muslim this one is a Hindu this one is a

[00:46:44] you know like Christian like it really does like you know like what you see in Raju

[00:46:50] Baniyya Gentleman that little pasti where like everyone there's like a Christian there's a

[00:46:56] Muslim there's a Hindu like all of them are like together that really is a very Bombay

[00:47:02] thing like what Aziz Mirza was writing like that was like like and there are still pockets

[00:47:08] in Bombay right like you'll see that you know the you will see that kind of neighborhood

[00:47:13] and you'll see that kind of ethos it's just that it's vanishing more and more because

[00:47:19] well we don't know why it's more and more yeah yeah because you know like so many times I hear

[00:47:24] like about like Muslims not being able to live together even in the same complex or in the same

[00:47:30] building or vegetarians with non-vegetarians and all these things that I hear constantly in

[00:47:35] in India happening is like yeah wasn't that happening then like these things just didn't

[00:47:40] exist like people just used to live together or is it just like an image that we've created

[00:47:44] I think the difference is that back then people felt ashamed if you like pointed that out to them

[00:47:50] you know like if you said that you know like uh like this is really um there was a sort of

[00:47:56] pride in declaring that your nation is a secular state do you know what I mean and then

[00:48:01] obviously there are historical events in the course of the history of this nation that triggered

[00:48:06] you know animosity and Islamophobic vibes and on obviously you know violent events that have

[00:48:16] happened and that's sort of the markers of um you know it's okay to be against them because

[00:48:23] they are you know the us versus them debate sparked from that but in the course of the

[00:48:29] nation building where when we grew up I think it was more normal to be secular than to be

[00:48:35] not so I remember this is one particular story you know like just as an example uh when the

[00:48:42] 92 blasts happened in Bombay um and there were like there was a lot of anti-Muslim sentiment

[00:48:49] and uh Shashi Kapoor you know like all the stars in Bombay obviously live in like most of

[00:48:54] the stars live in apartments rather than in bungalows and Shashi Kapoor had an apartment

[00:49:00] in like a very fancy apartment building and a bunch of people in the apartment building were

[00:49:06] like there's this one particular Muslim family and they should leave uh they were just like

[00:49:11] you know like it's not safe to have a Muslim family in this apartment building uh blah blah

[00:49:16] blah like all that kind of stuff and Shashi Kapoor basically showed up and said how fucking

[00:49:21] dare you you can't talk like that about people who are our neighbors like he just like

[00:49:27] basically just laid into them and the people who proposed it were actually ashamed and were

[00:49:32] just like I'm sorry like we didn't mean to do that like I don't know what came into us

[00:49:36] and like it was never brought up again and like the Muslim family continued to live there and

[00:49:41] they weren't evicted or anything in the difference between 1992 and 2024 to me is that

[00:49:49] a nobody would say anything to those people and if they did then they would be the ones

[00:49:56] who would be shamed rather than the people who you know proposed it in the first place

[00:50:01] like that's the difference that I've seen in the last 30 years.

[00:50:05] I'm just thinking about this because there was this clip going viral or I saw it of

[00:50:11] Kareena Kapoor talking about her favorite foods and you know the Kapoors are notorious

[00:50:16] foodies right like they love food and stuff like that food but non-vegetarian meat eaters

[00:50:21] yeah that's exactly and the only thing she mentioned was like I love Rajma Chawal and

[00:50:27] I like my Dal Chawal is the best and it just stuck to me because I've heard this

[00:50:32] theory so many times like Dal Chawal is the best and I was like we're at this point

[00:50:37] where people cannot even say that they can they love a kebab or something like that right

[00:50:41] that's where we're at right and they know I mean we all know what they're doing right they

[00:50:46] don't want to get the hate so they're just getting I mean you know I know the restaurants

[00:50:51] Kareena Kapoor goes to in London they're not veg restaurants you know but it's just like

[00:50:57] the evolution when you go back to a movie like Raju Ban Gaya Gentlemen

[00:51:02] it really it's such a stark contrast to in so many different ways of where we are now and

[00:51:07] where we were then yeah it just really I also have another theory that I wrote down while

[00:51:14] watching this and that is because of the aesthetic of another director which is so much in contrast

[00:51:20] with how Aziz Mirza you know comes up with scenes is Aziz Mirza is the anti Sanjay

[00:51:26] Lelewansali you know because like SLB is so much known for his aesthetic right everything

[00:51:32] is sterile like clean as on his sets and everything is like brand spanking new and

[00:51:39] and also other SLBs at least back in the day was known for romance and the scenes between

[00:51:45] how the romance the spark between these two lovely characters are is introduced and written

[00:51:50] into his scenes be it in Khamoshi or in Hamdil De Chukye Sanam those are the two that I can

[00:51:58] remember as far as now but and contrast to that here the world is so inauthentic it's

[00:52:07] so much on a film set that you can tell that it's on a film set and it's dirty it's made to look

[00:52:14] like a nukkar or a mahala and the romance here is depicted through the commentary of single uncles

[00:52:22] in the mahala here but it's such a charming scene where you know they all go to Jay

[00:52:32] Nana Patekar's character to give the commentary of what will happen next and Nana I've written

[00:52:37] down the dialogue it's such a lovely lovely scene just before laveria right

[00:52:44] Jay says Jamure now the door of number five will open the girl will come out with dry towels

[00:52:49] to dry her heart in Roxy is hurting now the hero will hit the style and will

[00:52:56] have to rewind and write it down it was yeah it is as epic as

[00:53:25] a funny character the Nana Patekar is playing right because he's like he seems like a homeless

[00:53:36] yeah yeah he's wearing a chancellor hat like a cricket hat probably and then he manages to

[00:53:43] still get people around him like people are listening to him he's like a moral leader

[00:53:49] you know to the point where I think we want to talk a little bit about the climax of

[00:53:53] the movie too right where he's definitely written by Shahrukh so I think the climax like

[00:53:57] he had to be bloody he had to run he had to be stabbed oh yeah yeah the final fight you mean

[00:54:04] the final fight yeah but I also mean the whole setup of like he gets he gets blamed for the

[00:54:12] the bridge collapsing and they kind of the rich people are trying to like it's it's all a

[00:54:17] bit absurd like when you think about it like just because this guy got a promotion now

[00:54:21] they're very angry about him yeah and then the whole idea that he's told that these people that

[00:54:30] did that actually died in the crash are the terrorists and yeah it's Nana Patekar again

[00:54:37] leading the charge and you know like making this very crummy here again yeah yeah very much

[00:54:43] right so yeah I just wanted to see what you guys kind of thought of the whole set

[00:54:48] it's Nana Patekar doing what he does best I guess you know that scene is going to work

[00:54:53] at the cinema everybody is going to Maro city at that particular monologue which he has had

[00:54:59] like the movie is bookended by each chapter is by Nana Patekar giving a commentary of what's

[00:55:04] gonna happen next or whatever and yeah he's doing what he's been hired for you know in

[00:55:10] yeah yeah yeah it's it does finish a bit abruptly I feel I was left with a few questions like what

[00:55:19] is Raju gonna do now like does he not have a job what is Amrita gonna do now not you Amrita

[00:55:29] yeah it was funny that they had the pilot scene here as well in the climax yes the

[00:55:37] the original pilot well I'll probably try to get a clip and post on twitter

[00:55:41] like people probably have forgotten about this pilot and it was funny that you said like

[00:55:48] Jay is like all of these single uncles I don't know where are their families you know you

[00:55:54] never get to see and they ask Jay if he had you know had a love story in his past and

[00:56:01] he says yes I used to love somebody her name was Madhumati and this other guy comes and like

[00:56:07] Pelle to ne bandhani ka haata and both are like Bimal Roy movies yeah that's funny

[00:56:15] whatever you Amrita what did you think of the ending of the movie

[00:56:18] I mean it was it was cute and I'm really glad that they didn't try and do something artistic

[00:56:25] you know make it like a sad ending and like Juhi and Shahrukh got their happy ending after all

[00:56:34] and also like Amrita like sacrificing her love for Shahrukh and saying that you know like

[00:56:40] and then Shahrukh being like she doesn't deserve like I don't deserve her

[00:56:44] like she deserves better than me and I was just like oh that's so cute

[00:56:48] good people we used to be a nation yeah what happened to us we used to be a nation

[00:56:55] yeah also I love the is that it's not the dara jacket but it's similar to the dara jacket

[00:57:02] Shahrukh is wearing at the end of the climax yeah it's the shout of bloody Shahrukh too but

[00:57:07] the it's funny because the blood is too thin so when he's in the barish all the

[00:57:12] the blood just wipes away he has no scars so it's kind of funny what do you think of

[00:57:19] Aziz Mirza as a director I mean I think it's like very like Rishikesh Mukherjee kind of

[00:57:29] filmmaking right like this could be a play I just think yeah I think he's like that kind

[00:57:36] of filmmaker like probably in that era he was making these kind of small time stories and

[00:57:41] Aziz Mirza made these kind of small time stories I think it's very competent very nice

[00:57:48] but it's also not cinematic it's not loud it's not gonna make like you know it's not gonna make

[00:57:54] like a big like a box office impression or stuff like that I just think it's just like kind of

[00:57:59] of a bygone era it just I don't see how this can be made yeah like yeah even the

[00:58:08] things that he's tried to say with this and with Pirvidhila and Dussani most of all you

[00:58:13] know those two movies stand out as movies that cannot be made now in a way

[00:58:20] Finally I watched Raju Bange Jintaman and Amrita because you recommended me Alistair

[00:58:27] McLean books yes yeah so one of those was Guns of Navarone right and I ended up watching

[00:58:32] Guns of Navarone the other day I'd never seen it my dad loved that movie so he'd been

[00:58:36] talking about it all the time and again my dad has really good taste in movies by the way

[00:58:42] but so I ended up watching it because it was on the list of the books that you mentioned

[00:58:49] and again I was watching it and I was like this kind of movie does it doesn't cannot get made

[00:58:53] anymore right like it's just like a straight narrative and like all of these big actors

[00:58:58] together and they have like small role big role and it's not like an ego problem and

[00:59:05] it's the same thing here like it's like I cannot comprehend how like Guns of Navarone now is

[00:59:12] the Avengers right like that's what we're thinking of and the scale the massiveness the

[00:59:18] loudness of it is something that we have to do now to get people into the theater

[00:59:23] and I think a movie like because people keep saying this like oh Shah Rukh should make

[00:59:28] you know movies like he used to in Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naar yes boss or he should make that

[00:59:33] Vishal Bhardwaj movie with Tabu but I just don't think the economics of it can work you know where

[00:59:39] are you what are you going to do with it release it on Netflix is that the plan I don't know yeah

[00:59:44] yeah even if you release it on Netflix just because he's Shah Rukh Khan the way that would

[00:59:50] play is also different than say like you know just releasing a Netflix movie with say

[00:59:54] Ranveer or Varun Dhawan or something like that yeah it's just it's just what it is like

[01:00:00] you know like sometimes the art wins over sometimes the business wins over and unfortunately

[01:00:06] for Shah Rukh and also like I don't know if when people say that I and actually I'm kind of really

[01:00:15] happy that Shah Rukh is no longer letting other people into his brain because there was

[01:00:20] that five-year period where it was very clear that he was spooked and like he was letting

[01:00:25] other people's voices into his head but when people say that like I don't like there's just

[01:00:32] no way that you can make this movie even from a aesthetics point of view you know like this is

[01:00:38] not the sensibility of who we are as a people anymore not even as a nation but like as a

[01:00:43] people like that watch Hindi films anywhere like this is the kind of innocence that we

[01:00:50] have anymore like nobody if you made this movie in 2024 and like you know the bad guys all got

[01:00:56] sent to prison and like Amrita Singh like confesses everything in court people would mock it out of

[01:01:03] like the theaters because people would be like that never happens because that never happens

[01:01:08] anymore you know what I mean like yeah this is and we as a people don't believe that justice

[01:01:15] or that true love will triumph or all those things like we've been educated out of that

[01:01:23] over the past 30 years so I don't know how you're going to make this movie

[01:01:28] yeah yeah any final words to joy anything else you want to discuss about this movies guys

[01:01:35] I'm so sorry like the first time Shah Rukh goes for that interview at Amrita Singh's firm

[01:01:44] and he like knocks them out of the park like he schools them basically on engineering and then

[01:01:50] this guy has to check in his computer he's basically just writing a unix command to see

[01:01:56] the folder structure he's like yes the calculations are right and he gets the job

[01:02:04] and then follows followed by the first day on his job he schools Amrita Singh this time

[01:02:12] and then Anjan Srivastava Saxena he sort of um scolds him like

[01:02:21] whenever like she gets angry and Saxena is like he's only diploma holder he's not even a true

[01:02:29] engineer what the hell is going on and then followed by him getting can I

[01:02:36] can I just also say about that like you know I was also thinking how far the middle class has come

[01:02:42] where they now do want gyms they do want parks and swimming pools where back in the day yes

[01:02:47] they maybe just needed facilities and then Shah Rukh gets promoted right the Raju gets

[01:02:54] promoted and then Saxena was he's been working at this firm for so long and he's just come

[01:03:00] in and swooped under his feet and got this private chamber his office cabin and he's like complaining

[01:03:07] about chair dekha and all that and he but he complains about Shah Rukh you know Raju just

[01:03:16] coming out of nowhere and you know succeeding his position before he could even

[01:03:22] um you know have that go and then he goes back to fantasizing about the cabin itself

[01:03:37] like it seems like that that Azir Mirza like excels in like slice of life characters

[01:03:44] by the way people who are just listening to this podcast Amrita we are recording on video

[01:03:49] and Amrita has been embracing the darkness for a while she's become batman for us all

[01:03:55] just sat in a dark room so I can only hear her

[01:04:02] sometimes you see her yeah she's Renuka Shahane here um yeah another bit of

[01:04:12] um the the Aziz Mirza flashes in this movie is when you get the mahala song you get a

[01:04:20] a qawwali section as well in a song because the Muslim guy representation has to be presented

[01:04:27] and then yeah he's not wearing the topi for nothing sojoy and shout out to Aniraj Vohra

[01:04:33] for wearing the skimpiest banyan of all with his lungi um yeah and and like obviously we talked

[01:04:42] about um the other ancillary characters that are in the mahala but later in the movie we just get

[01:04:48] new characters out of nowhere like the villain layer where they have to cheer Ajit Vachani for

[01:04:53] successfully demolishing the bridge and you get Arun Bali out of nowhere right you get

[01:04:59] Ajit Poddar for one scene where he's being gifted for one scene he's being a creep yeah

[01:05:06] yeah I don't like it when he does that I just want him to be the crying father

[01:05:16] Amrita any final notes uh just that it's a very cute film and if you are a Juhi fan then

[01:05:22] you should definitely watch this you will be very happy and watch it for the original palak scene

[01:05:26] yeah yeah it's a very sweet movie and I think it's kind of also a timeless movie I think whenever

[01:05:33] you watch it you'll have a good time it has kind of good morals and like a good heart and stuff

[01:05:38] like that but it's also not a loud movie that you need to like you know well Nana Patekar is

[01:05:42] like one of those yeah he's very very loud but it's like one of those rainy afternoon

[01:05:48] kind of movies you just put it on and enjoy it and I think you'll have a good time you

[01:05:52] know so yeah it's on prime that's how I saw it got a really really good print yeah yeah best

[01:05:59] print I've seen and I'm really impressed with the remasters we have on Prime lately so yeah

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