F1 2024 - Early & Bold Predictions

[00:00:02] Before we begin, I wanted to give a huge shout out to the folks at Amazon Music for partnering with us on this episode of the Inside Line F1 Podcast.

[00:00:10] But more on this later. Right then, let's get right into today's episode.

[00:00:35] Well, well, well then, guess what ladies and gentlemen, the time is here. The 2024 Formula One season is back.

[00:00:42] So are we on the Inside Line F1 Podcast?

[00:00:45] I know we never quite left because we had so many big events, so many big guests on the podcast.

[00:00:50] But still, I think for the first time in how many months has it been guys since we've recorded together talking about Formula One?

[00:00:57] Two, three? How long has it been Sundaram?

[00:01:00] I think it's been a while, right?

[00:01:01] I think we've done an episode very recently. I can't seem to remember which one, but it's definitely been a while since we've actively done this.

[00:01:09] So I'm very excited for 2024. Lots of interesting storylines, which we'll get to. But yeah, it's good to be back.

[00:01:16] Lots of interesting storylines and lots of controversy because in this episode, you're either going to be falling in love with our predictions or you're going to be heading on to Twitter.

[00:01:26] Can't say Twitter anymore. God damn it. You're going to be heading on to X.

[00:01:30] You're going to be heading on to X and saying, Oh my God, these guys absolutely are crazy and don't know what they're talking about.

[00:01:35] But that's the fun about the Bold Predictions episode, right? Because when we did this last year, Kanal, some of our predictions were so stupid, but they worked out well at the end of the day.

[00:01:44] They did and it was actually the most consumed episode of the season as popular as even the awards.

[00:01:51] So literally the top and the tail of all our episodes were really well appreciated.

[00:01:56] And that's when we said, let's do a bold predictions for 2024 as well.

[00:02:01] Let's see which ones we get right. Let's see which ones people laugh out to us on.

[00:02:07] For me, I know you said Twitter and then you changed it to X. It's that same Bombay, Mumbai, you know, Twitter's an emotion.

[00:02:13] X is what people expect you to call it, but I just say Twitter anyway.

[00:02:18] It's so weird, right? I've seen so many journalists say when a certain person reported something on X, he's like, X for X.

[00:02:26] What do you mean by X?

[00:02:28] I don't know why they do it. It's absurd. Just call it for what we all love it to be.

[00:02:33] But I think just like X, I don't think we're going to get used to VCarb or Stake, Kick, Sauber, whatever.

[00:02:40] What's that stupid name again? Wait, is it Stake Sauber?

[00:02:45] No, it's Stake Formula One team. Kick Sauber. Not kicks.

[00:02:53] Why do you want to kick Sauber? Wait, that's going to happen anyway, right?

[00:02:56] They are going to be. I know that's very strategically placed. That's for sure.

[00:03:07] And then what will happen in 26? Audi, Kick, Stake, F1, Team Sauber.

[00:03:13] I like that idea. You know what? That's a good one.

[00:03:17] Yeah. And apart from that, we also have the incredibly majestic, the name that everyone is going to remember forever,

[00:03:25] a name that will stand out in history as one of the most iconic and pretty names in the world, the Visa Cash App Racing Bulls Team, VCarb.

[00:03:34] What on what is this year guys? Seriously?

[00:03:39] It says the person who addresses the Force India Formula One team as Sahara Force India Formula One team.

[00:03:46] I need to go through his bank records to see if Sahara actually pays him to say the word Sahara because almost nobody called it Sahara Force India F1 team.

[00:03:56] But you know, here's the hack. Everyone's been wondering what's the name of the team? What's an actual name of a team and so on, right?

[00:04:02] Yeah. Always check the email address of the team because that will always be the actual name of the team

[00:04:10] and not all the sponsored names that are fighting to also be in the title name of the team, right?

[00:04:17] So Visa, Carb, whatever is racing Bulls F1. I know because I've had a few emails exchanged there.

[00:04:22] I think Stake is still Sauber if I remember or something, or maybe they've just changed it.

[00:04:28] But yeah, just check the email address of the team and you don't need to know someone there.

[00:04:33] Sometimes even the media address, media at whatever team.com is good enough to give you a guess.

[00:04:39] So 2024 then what a year it's going to be. It's going to be a year of stupid names and it's going to be like an episode of Wipeout.

[00:04:47] So much comedy around the usual suspects like Alpine, Haas, Stroll, Sargeant so on and so forth doing their thing and falling like normal people do.

[00:04:55] But some dark horses like Piazzio Ricardo we feel could shine further but ultimately reach their ceiling.

[00:05:01] However, a few fan favourites like Leclerc and Perez might be smacked in their face.

[00:05:06] But ultimately I get a feeling that Champion is going to be the one who you expected to be right from the start of the episode.

[00:05:13] What do you think about this guys? Let's just put it out there.

[00:05:16] World Champion of 2024, who's it going to be? What's your bold prediction?

[00:05:20] It's not bold anymore. It's going to be Max or Staphen.

[00:05:22] It's very unlikely that we don't see Max or Staphen taking the trophy at the FIA Gala later this year.

[00:05:29] It's Max all the way for me.

[00:05:31] I know you're Max Staphen.

[00:05:33] No, I'm not a Max fan because then the minute you say that everyone thinks our reporting is all over the place.

[00:05:39] I'm just a fan of his talent much as I've been a fan of Lewis Hamilton's talent or Sebastian Fettel's talent.

[00:05:46] I think if there was ever a driver I was a big fan of who I would stand on the road and defend that 2am in an IC,

[00:05:55] you know, minus 15 night it would only be Michael Schumacher.

[00:05:59] But I think I'll put it this way. There are only two drivers. I'm not a fan of that.

[00:06:05] All our listeners including two of the current drivers, I mean, who I'm not a fan of.

[00:06:12] One is somebody who prefers to take a stroll and still hits the barriers and the other is a fake sergeant in the United States Army or whatever you call it.

[00:06:22] Yeah, I think yeah.

[00:06:25] I think yeah, it's going to be Max Staphen.

[00:06:27] It better be Max Staphen with all the dominance and the planning and Adrian Newey.

[00:06:34] And that's going to be the best way for Red Bull to push back on all the rumours around, you know, a rift within the team and power struggle and all of that.

[00:06:44] How do you prove all of them wrong?

[00:06:46] Just go out and win everything you can.

[00:06:48] There are 24 races and six more if you add sprints. How many out of these will they win? Can they win?

[00:06:55] That's going to be the bold prediction. Out of those 30 races, how many is Staphen going to win on his own?

[00:07:04] I say 24. I think he's winning 24.

[00:07:09] Man, you ruthless soul. I for once was thinking this is going to be...

[00:07:13] No, I'll be more logical. I think somewhere close to 20. He's winning 20 events for sure. At least.

[00:07:19] Okay. Out of 30.

[00:07:21] Out of 30, yeah.

[00:07:22] That's not a Maxish number, right? Because he has to win 28 out of 30. Or well 33 out of 30 if you want to go a Max number.

[00:07:31] You don't have many repeats. I mean sorry, you don't have many repeats of 2023. 2023 was an outlier in terms of dominance.

[00:07:39] It's not going to happen this year, I feel.

[00:07:41] Challenge accepted. That's what Christian Horner and Maxish Staphen would say.

[00:07:47] Exactly. And wait, no really. It's an interesting question, right? Because when we were speaking before the start of this episode,

[00:07:55] Sundaram, you said that Red Bull will be having only two other teams alongside with them on the top step of the podium.

[00:08:01] It'll be McLaren and Ferrari. I get a feeling that it's going to be the same but with one more team.

[00:08:08] I feel Fernando Alonso is going to win one random race and potentially then head to Mercedes. Wouldn't that be fun?

[00:08:17] That would definitely be fun. See, you know what I did last year? So throughout 2023, I went by what happened in preseason testing.

[00:08:24] I went by all the rumors and all the hype around Alonso winning a race and I followed that trend, kept saying he's going to win a race

[00:08:32] and he didn't win a single race. I'm going to do the opposite this year. Quite obviously, I'm an Alonso fan.

[00:08:37] If you've been listening to the podcast for a while, you know that I'm very openly... I state that very openly that I am an Alonso fan

[00:08:45] but I'm going to go the opposite route. I also think it's slightly logical but I say Aston Martin's on going to be winning a race this year.

[00:08:52] If Fernando does, then nothing like it. I would be celebrating like I've never celebrated in the last 15 years

[00:08:59] but I think it's going to be Red Bull McLaren and Ferrari. Mary go round this year.

[00:09:06] Wait, wait, wait. You're not doing it well enough. Go ahead.

[00:09:10] You saw what he said. I don't think Aston Martin is going to win a race this year.

[00:09:15] Okay, and then he switched to saying if Fernando Alonso does, then I'm going to sell it

[00:09:20] which literally means that Aston is not winning the race.

[00:09:25] Maybe that's the bold prediction. Aston will win but Lance will not make it to the podium.

[00:09:32] What's bold about that? What is bold about that?

[00:09:35] It's like saying...

[00:09:37] Oh yeah, actually that's not bold.

[00:09:39] What is wet? What is wet? Yeah, it happens.

[00:09:42] Let's go to Aston Martin. Let's go team-wise. Let's go for all of our bold predictions.

[00:09:46] I get a feeling going to Aston Martin this year that yes, Fernando will win

[00:09:50] and I am really, really manifesting this well enough

[00:09:54] because it would be the most insane moment in Formula One for the last 10 years.

[00:09:59] However, I get a feeling by the midpoint of this year, Lance Stroll's lifetime contract at Aston Martin

[00:10:07] is probably going to be cut short if they don't realize by the midpoint of this year

[00:10:13] that they've had enough, which I think they will because I get a feeling

[00:10:16] looking at the way the designers evolve. Again, I am not a designer.

[00:10:19] I can't tell if those barge boards or side pods are actually better than last year

[00:10:23] but you get a sentiment around the team that now that they have a better position

[00:10:27] in terms of where they were last year and they have a good concept that is working

[00:10:30] and knowing the kind of structural changes they've made,

[00:10:33] maybe they will be able to evolve and build up from that

[00:10:35] but keeping that positive sentiment in mind, there will be a point where they realize

[00:10:39] they need two drivers and not one

[00:10:42] and they're not going to sack Fernando alone so they're out there.

[00:10:46] They're not going to sack Fernando. Fernando is just going to leave

[00:10:49] so Lance might just get another life line

[00:10:57] but you know what? Aston Martin is then going to run out of hiring world champions

[00:11:01] to have alongside Lance Stroll. That's what's going to happen.

[00:11:06] They're paying $2.5 million in racing fees this year to the FIA.

[00:11:13] They finished fifth last year. I get a feeling they will be in a battle for P2

[00:11:20] and P2 will actually be a four-way fight in 2024.

[00:11:26] That's my bold prediction.

[00:11:29] Wait, wait, wait. A two-way, wait. A two-pronged battle for P2 or a single one?

[00:11:36] Four-way, four.

[00:11:38] Will it be a two-pronged attack from Aston Martin?

[00:11:41] That's not a bold prediction, right?

[00:11:44] The bold prediction will be yes, it will be a two-pronged attack

[00:11:48] from Aston Martin's end as well, right?

[00:11:52] That's true, right? If it's not a two-pronged attack

[00:11:56] then definitely they're not in the battle for P2

[00:12:00] and then they will again settle for P5. That's what's going to happen.

[00:12:05] Maybe some of what you're saying is absolutely correct, right?

[00:12:08] They will somewhere realize, wow, we are building cars

[00:12:10] but we finally don't have a son who can deliver.

[00:12:13] But I have to do a plug-in here for the Otmar Safnau interviews

[00:12:18] that we released just a few weeks ago

[00:12:20] where he explained so very well how difficult

[00:12:24] and how challenging it was for Aston Martin engineers

[00:12:28] to actually give feedback to the owner's son, Lance Stroll.

[00:12:32] I think that was a really exciting insight that he shared.

[00:12:35] Yeah, and we have that video also be out on the

[00:12:40] Insight Line F1 podcast Instagram page as well

[00:12:42] where he's just briefly explained what it's like to manage Lance Stroll.

[00:12:45] So check that one out as well in case you like the shorter form of the content.

[00:12:48] But that's Aston Martin there with us.

[00:12:51] Why don't we go to a really exciting team for our predictions?

[00:12:55] Okay, let's just say it out right there.

[00:12:57] I think beyond the point we will get to be more used to this

[00:13:01] but why don't we go to the Visa Cash App Racing Bulls Formula 1 team.

[00:13:06] Hey, originality in a name! What a lovely one.

[00:13:09] You got it wrong, Samuel. It's not called Racing Bulls

[00:13:12] in the official entry name. It's called RB

[00:13:15] and they've categorically said that we are not Racing Bulls.

[00:13:18] I know they're licensed as I think Racing Bulls

[00:13:21] but the official entry name is Visa Cash App RB F1 team.

[00:13:25] Visa Cash App RB.

[00:13:26] That's racing, and they're racing with the Toro Rosso livery

[00:13:29] just to confuse us even more.

[00:13:31] Hands up for all of you people who are going to call it Toro Rosso.

[00:13:34] Me calling it Racing Bulls.

[00:13:36] Me, me, me, me, me.

[00:13:39] Racing Bulls car is now coming to be lapped by the Red Bull Racing car

[00:13:44] or the Red Bull car, my goodness.

[00:13:46] That's a lot of Red Bull and racing and whatever.

[00:13:48] But let's see what they say.

[00:13:50] So will we call it like the Racing Bulls lock halos or lock horns?

[00:13:54] Or, or, or, or, or, or, or.

[00:13:57] The only way to make Racing Bull go faster is if you show it a red flag.

[00:14:02] And that means that the red flag rule

[00:14:07] that the FI might finally bring in and qualifying.

[00:14:09] We are waiting to see if that happens, right?

[00:14:11] If you bring out a red flag, you actually lose your fastest time

[00:14:14] of that session.

[00:14:15] That's something that they're saying.

[00:14:16] But onto Racing Bulls, my bold prediction is

[00:14:21] because you probably have done it on purpose or not

[00:14:24] so that you don't ruin other people.

[00:14:27] You've actually have then ruined other people's session time.

[00:14:30] So you just get penalized for that.

[00:14:32] It's, it's under discussion and they might, you remember

[00:14:36] that, you know, check over as Monaco or two years ago.

[00:14:41] Then again, I think it was Hamilton.

[00:14:44] And Alonso and lots of drivers.

[00:14:48] Yeah, lots of drivers.

[00:14:49] Yeah.

[00:14:50] So anyway, my bold prediction for Racing Bulls is actually going

[00:14:54] to be that Zach Brown will be their biggest spokesperson

[00:14:58] for the year.

[00:15:00] Why?

[00:15:01] Because, you know, every third statement of Zach Brown

[00:15:04] has been the FIA needs to outlaw double ownership,

[00:15:08] you know, double ownership of teams or one entity owning two

[00:15:11] teams and he's gone out to explain very logically why they

[00:15:14] should do that.

[00:15:15] And, you know, it's very interesting here.

[00:15:17] There are two things or two teams that F1 had to carry

[00:15:22] as a legacy that is now becoming some sort of a pain

[00:15:25] point.

[00:15:26] The first team and we'll get to them is Haas.

[00:15:28] You know, they just wanted Haas to race because they

[00:15:30] needed a tenth team around in the sport, right?

[00:15:33] And then I was suddenly Haas is like, okay, but my

[00:15:35] evaluation has tripled and I'm not going to sell.

[00:15:38] So Haas is becoming a challenge.

[00:15:39] They're not competing.

[00:15:40] They're just driving around.

[00:15:41] The second team is of course Alpha Taury, Tauro Ross

[00:15:44] or Racing Bulls because there was a time when again,

[00:15:46] they were like, we need one more team to race and

[00:15:48] Detrick you got some money, why don't you buy a team?

[00:15:51] And that's the team that happens to be now

[00:15:54] Racing Bulls and now suddenly people are like, but you

[00:15:57] can't have one person owning two teams.

[00:15:59] Anyway, so Zach Brown is going to continue down

[00:16:02] this road explaining in different ways, but in the

[00:16:05] English language why Red Bull shouldn't have Red Bull

[00:16:08] Racing and Racing Bulls.

[00:16:10] Oh, it's not Racing Bulls.

[00:16:12] It's Hugo.

[00:16:13] Hugo.

[00:16:14] Have you seen that guys on the side profile of the car?

[00:16:22] The Racing Bulls very prominently has a gigantic red

[00:16:26] Hugo.

[00:16:27] Let's call the car Hugo.

[00:16:28] Alex Sebastian Betel had that as well.

[00:16:30] Kinky Kylie and so on and so forth.

[00:16:33] Oh my God, it is the golden and a formula one and I'm

[00:16:36] forgetting the names.

[00:16:37] Luscious Liz and a couple of others.

[00:16:42] Why not call this Hugo?

[00:16:44] Okay, Hugo.

[00:16:45] Why don't we actually move on to

[00:16:50] I'll stay on Hugo.

[00:16:52] No, no, no, I want to say something on Hugo because

[00:16:54] Hugo will have three owners this year, not two.

[00:16:57] Ricardo and Sonora will be there, but I just get a

[00:17:01] feeling this car is going to be driven by three people in

[00:17:04] the season.

[00:17:05] And I'm not talking about the FB1 young drivers.

[00:17:07] I just get a feeling there's some chopping and

[00:17:09] changing happening over here in this whole structure,

[00:17:12] which I should explain in more depth when we get to

[00:17:14] Red Bull Racing, but mark my words, three drivers

[00:17:17] racing for V-Car this year, not two.

[00:17:19] That's going to be interesting.

[00:17:21] Let's take a bet on how let's predict how many races

[00:17:24] into the season.

[00:17:25] Will somebody else get a lifeline?

[00:17:27] It's going to be Belgium, right?

[00:17:29] That's what it all is.

[00:17:30] Specifically with this team, you mean?

[00:17:33] Yeah.

[00:17:34] I don't think so.

[00:17:35] Belgium Sanford?

[00:17:36] Belgium Sanford, that's where it normally all happens?

[00:17:38] What it is?

[00:17:39] No, well, I had Nick DeFries without my hungry

[00:17:41] or whatever.

[00:17:42] I would say eight races.

[00:17:43] Okay, not bad.

[00:17:45] Yeah, they will want to give Lawson away in

[00:17:48] whatever we'll see, but we have a bold prediction.

[00:17:51] Yeah, Mercedes.

[00:17:53] The series is a good idea, right?

[00:17:55] Yeah.

[00:17:56] I flipped to Mercedes because you mentioned Sebastian

[00:17:58] Fettel and his car names and I'm like, is he going

[00:18:00] to be in the car in 2025 in place of Lewis

[00:18:03] Hamilton?

[00:18:05] Does Formula One need more former world champions

[00:18:09] on the grid for teams too high or for fans

[00:18:12] to follow for the sport to have?

[00:18:15] Because you know, Fernando's of course said

[00:18:17] he's going to race till 50.

[00:18:18] So he's around for a while.

[00:18:20] Lewis Hamilton is of course then also going to say

[00:18:24] he's going to race till 50.

[00:18:25] But yeah, my bold prediction since we are moving

[00:18:27] to Mercedes is first, we will see Sebastian

[00:18:31] Fettel back in 2025 and second,

[00:18:35] Hamilton will beat Russell and then go all

[00:18:39] these talks of him losing steam and whatever

[00:18:41] in 24 just as Fettel did in Ferrari in

[00:18:44] 2020.

[00:18:45] That's not happening.

[00:18:46] This is Mercedes-Benz-Lewis-Hamilton.

[00:18:49] Why do you say that?

[00:18:51] Because in my head, this is the year where Lewis

[00:18:54] Hamilton loses energy with Mercedes, loses

[00:18:57] steam completely and goes like, well even though

[00:19:00] I'm a top athlete, somewhere down below

[00:19:02] my heart belongs somewhere else and he'll do

[00:19:04] his best to suppress it.

[00:19:05] He'll do his best to make sure that he

[00:19:07] comes across as being the most professional

[00:19:09] driver in the world.

[00:19:10] But somewhere down the line, your heart is

[00:19:12] somewhere else and they are paying you

[00:19:14] $50 million more a year and they are

[00:19:16] giving you that beautiful red car you dreamed

[00:19:18] as a kid.

[00:19:19] I get a feeling this is where the relationship,

[00:19:21] I wouldn't say tanks but sort of loses energy

[00:19:24] and this could be the start of the end for

[00:19:26] this era of Mercedes and what my,

[00:19:29] I just see this coming.

[00:19:30] I don't know.

[00:19:31] I could be totally wrong about this.

[00:19:32] I think Total Wolf is leaving this team

[00:19:34] midway through 2026.

[00:19:35] Now I know that's a far way off

[00:19:37] but think of all the great managers

[00:19:39] in all the sports.

[00:19:40] Think of Jürgen Klopp and Liverpool, right?

[00:19:42] Once you have rebuilt a team once

[00:19:44] and then made it successful and then

[00:19:46] built it twice and then made it even

[00:19:48] more successful.

[00:19:49] The fact that you have to do it the third

[00:19:51] time sometimes gets the better of you

[00:19:53] in terms of energy.

[00:19:54] I think Total will just have to stick

[00:19:56] on because again, legacy.

[00:19:57] I don't think you leave midway through

[00:19:59] just when Hamilton's leaving.

[00:20:00] That taints your legacy like a lot

[00:20:02] because at the end of the day people

[00:20:04] remember you as being, oh he was

[00:20:06] only successful because Lewis was there.

[00:20:08] He'll try to prove that wrong and

[00:20:10] then quietly slighly when the new

[00:20:12] regulations come in and Mercedes

[00:20:14] will be in the next few years.

[00:20:15] I think it's the beginning of the

[00:20:17] end syndrome.

[00:20:18] I think we're right where Mercedes

[00:20:20] are.

[00:20:21] No longer going to be the same team

[00:20:23] that we think they are.

[00:20:24] Exactly.

[00:20:25] This is the period where the team

[00:20:27] starts to slide down or I would say

[00:20:29] they're already sliding down because

[00:20:31] at least during the initial years

[00:20:33] of the hybrid I always used to

[00:20:35] feel, is this dominance ever going

[00:20:37] to end?

[00:20:38] And that's what I feel right now

[00:20:40] with even with Max Verstappen.

[00:20:42] I am actually going to go a little

[00:20:44] bit more bold and say that

[00:20:46] Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes

[00:20:48] don't win a single race this

[00:20:50] year.

[00:20:51] They're final year together.

[00:20:53] I know there's going to be a lot of

[00:20:55] frustration internally within the team.

[00:20:57] I don't know if there's going to be

[00:20:58] any fireworks between the drivers

[00:21:00] but quite clearly they're going

[00:21:02] through a whole reset in terms of

[00:21:04] their aero philosophy and everything.

[00:21:06] They've got side parts, Red Bull on

[00:21:08] the other side supposedly doesn't have

[00:21:10] side parts at all or a different

[00:21:12] version of side parts.

[00:21:14] But I for some reason

[00:21:16] feel McLaren and Ferrari

[00:21:18] will edge Mercedes

[00:21:20] just that much.

[00:21:22] Sure, they can take a couple of P2s

[00:21:24] and P3s but I don't see them winning

[00:21:26] this year unfortunately. Sorry,

[00:21:28] Lewis fans don't hate me.

[00:21:30] And you say this while

[00:21:32] wearing a beautiful black Puma

[00:21:34] jumper which is totally the kind

[00:21:36] of stuff that Lewis would wear as

[00:21:38] a disclaimer. I also told you Alonzo

[00:21:40] was not winning. Okay, so it's I don't

[00:21:42] see Alonzo and Hamilton winning.

[00:21:44] Let me be absolutely clear about that.

[00:21:46] Okay, so where are we

[00:21:48] putting Mercedes in the championship

[00:21:50] order? I think before. Same, I don't

[00:21:52] think they're going to be there. Yeah.

[00:21:54] What do you think about it?

[00:21:56] Mercedes fourth? That's like a dagger

[00:21:58] to their heart no? Will be so.

[00:22:00] I mean they've changed their concept

[00:22:02] and so on. They paid what?

[00:22:04] $3.35 million for last

[00:22:06] year. Does it matter who's you know as

[00:22:08] long as there's a you know battle

[00:22:10] four-way battle for P2, I don't really

[00:22:12] care who finishes where it got settled

[00:22:14] in Abu Dhabi last year but I get a feeling

[00:22:16] Red Bull of course Red Bull is going to win

[00:22:18] but I get a feeling Mercedes will

[00:22:20] not be P2 this year as well.

[00:22:22] I think it'll be P3 but I also

[00:22:24] feel Lewis

[00:22:26] might just win a race this year.

[00:22:28] Just going back to that point Kunal

[00:22:30] you said you

[00:22:32] think Red Bull would win. Did you mean

[00:22:34] Red Bull's title? Yeah.

[00:22:36] This is where my prediction comes in

[00:22:38] I have a feeling it might

[00:22:40] not be Red Bull winning the constructors

[00:22:42] title because see last year

[00:22:44] everyone's been talking about Red Bull being

[00:22:46] the most dominant team but

[00:22:48] if you look at the numbers it's actually Max

[00:22:50] Wastappan who's been leading their charge

[00:22:52] Max Wastappan is actually leading

[00:22:54] the second placed

[00:22:56] constructor after every

[00:22:58] single race so the person that actually

[00:23:00] led them to that title was Wastappan

[00:23:02] Sergio Perez in a year

[00:23:04] where he had more opportunities to

[00:23:06] score. He had fewer DNF's

[00:23:08] but he actually went on to have

[00:23:10] fewer podiums and fewer points

[00:23:12] than 2022. He had 20

[00:23:14] points lower in 2023

[00:23:16] in supposedly the most

[00:23:18] dominant car ever and Max

[00:23:20] Wastappan had 130 points more so

[00:23:22] if Sergio Perez doesn't pull up

[00:23:24] his socks I have a feeling it really

[00:23:26] gives the likes of Piastri

[00:23:28] Norris, Hamilton, no not

[00:23:30] Hamilton I would say I would say Leclerc

[00:23:32] and Science to come a little bit more closer

[00:23:34] give Red Bull a run for the money

[00:23:36] and probably one of them even

[00:23:38] clinches the constructors title. I have a feeling

[00:23:40] that could be possible. You know I want to

[00:23:42] also add up to this because

[00:23:44] this might mean that Sergio Perez

[00:23:46] gets sacked halfway through the season

[00:23:48] I get a feeling no matter

[00:23:50] how bad Red Bull racing

[00:23:52] are with Sergio this year and no matter

[00:23:54] how actually let's put it this way

[00:23:56] I get a feeling that no matter how bad Sergio Perez

[00:23:58] is this year even if McLaren

[00:24:00] and Ferrari are closer to the constructors championship

[00:24:02] than they've ever been before

[00:24:04] I don't think they're going to sack Sergio Perez midway through

[00:24:06] for one clear reason. They

[00:24:08] don't intend to have him in the car next year

[00:24:10] very clearly and so

[00:24:12] they would want to accelerate

[00:24:14] ideally in an ideal world. Red Bull would want to

[00:24:16] accelerate this process and get their

[00:24:18] future candidate in the car immediately

[00:24:20] but that next

[00:24:22] candidate belongs to Williams for the full season already

[00:24:24] for the first time

[00:24:26] in history I get a feeling that Red Bull might have

[00:24:28] to stick with the driver even though they don't

[00:24:30] quite like their performance because if they

[00:24:32] bring in an interim solution maybe William Lawson

[00:24:34] maybe they promote Daniel Ricciardo

[00:24:36] ultimately they could end up losing out

[00:24:38] on the golden boy who is

[00:24:40] best suited for that seat

[00:24:42] in the long run Alex Albon

[00:24:44] no matter how bad Sergio Perez might be

[00:24:46] I think he stays in the team till

[00:24:48] the end of the year no matter how things go

[00:24:50] No I think that's also

[00:24:52] contractual. Yeah I'm

[00:24:54] saying check out Perez sticking on is also

[00:24:56] contractual. Getting rid of him

[00:24:58] mid season is just going to be a lot

[00:25:00] of money that's going

[00:25:02] to have to be poured down the drain etc

[00:25:04] all of that and a lot of clickbait

[00:25:06] journalism will actually

[00:25:08] put that just as a lot of them also

[00:25:10] you know put 50 million dollars to Lewis Hamilton

[00:25:12] I'm pretty sure it's a lot more money than

[00:25:14] 50 million dollars for the year right

[00:25:16] but I just

[00:25:18] get this feeling that at the

[00:25:20] end of the day

[00:25:22] this you know

[00:25:24] 2023 to 24 no driver changes

[00:25:26] for the first time in history

[00:25:28] let's just do a count how many driver

[00:25:30] changes could we see in 25 so Hamilton

[00:25:32] is moving

[00:25:34] Colossians is moving

[00:25:36] Albon might move

[00:25:40] Ricciardo or Lawson or

[00:25:42] Sonoda might move

[00:25:44] somebody in

[00:25:46] Sauber might move

[00:25:48] somebody Haas

[00:25:50] might just move someone because when cars

[00:25:52] don't perform they just drop drivers

[00:25:54] right Alpine might

[00:25:56] see somebody moving that's seven teams

[00:25:58] that I just count

[00:26:00] wow that's a

[00:26:02] lot of driver movements for next year remember

[00:26:04] before you buy any driver merchandise

[00:26:06] this year it might just be the last season

[00:26:08] where you can

[00:26:10] you were saying Sundaram yeah but

[00:26:15] but back on to the point

[00:26:17] with Perez you're right

[00:26:19] I don't see Perez leaving the team

[00:26:21] and I feel Red Bull might have to tweak

[00:26:23] their strategy for next year sure there

[00:26:25] were talks about who do we have in the car

[00:26:27] alongside what's happened do we have Ricciardo

[00:26:29] do we have someone else

[00:26:31] I think that second seat might go

[00:26:33] most likely to an Alex Albon

[00:26:35] or maybe Liam Lawson I don't

[00:26:37] see Ricciardo getting back in that seat

[00:26:39] once again only because

[00:26:41] also also because

[00:26:43] Lewis Hamilton is going to Ferrari

[00:26:45] which means I already feel

[00:26:47] Ferrari is going to be one of the strong contenders

[00:26:49] of the 2020-25 in the constructors title

[00:26:51] so Red Bull would be

[00:26:53] wary of that and they would think

[00:26:55] okay let's have someone

[00:26:57] a little bit more capable someone who's proven himself

[00:26:59] in a different car so that's why I think they're going Albon

[00:27:01] for 2025 and beyond

[00:27:03] or maybe even 26

[00:27:05] I think they're going to get Carlos

[00:27:07] signs for the same reason

[00:27:09] that the driver who actually

[00:27:11] scored 50% of all the

[00:27:13] points at Ferrari

[00:27:15] is being replaced by a driver

[00:27:17] who scored Lewis Hamilton

[00:27:19] clearly going to score a lot of points

[00:27:21] I think Carlos signs will

[00:27:23] finally get his shot at Max Verstappen

[00:27:25] and Red Bull Racing

[00:27:27] and that would be a dream reunion

[00:27:29] that's my bold prediction

[00:27:31] I guess we've already started to talk about Red Bull

[00:27:33] so that's my bold prediction

[00:27:35] they paid 7.45 million dollars

[00:27:37] for their dominance last year

[00:27:39] RB20

[00:27:41] Max Verstappen

[00:27:43] that will definitely be the talk

[00:27:45] who their driver for 2025

[00:27:47] will be

[00:27:49] the biggest talking point for Red Bull

[00:27:51] that's going to be the boldest move that they will make

[00:27:53] I think they will not have

[00:27:55] a car problem but they will continue

[00:27:57] to have a second driver

[00:27:59] problem and that problem will aggravate

[00:28:01] like Somal was saying

[00:28:03] through Checo Perez in 2024

[00:28:05] I know we have a lot of listeners in Mexico

[00:28:07] sorry guys, Checo Perez has to

[00:28:09] probably find the seat elsewhere

[00:28:11] in 2025

[00:28:13] you said something about 7.5 million dollars

[00:28:15] for their dominance

[00:28:17] what are you talking about? The entry fee

[00:28:19] how does it work out?

[00:28:21] so the entry fee is

[00:28:23] what every team pays the FI

[00:28:25] everybody pays the FI for everything

[00:28:27] we are not paying anything luckily because

[00:28:29] podcasts suffer free right

[00:28:31] but what happens is there's a big

[00:28:33] one sec, they'll find us

[00:28:35] we've said so many bad things to MBS

[00:28:37] they are going to be sending an invoice

[00:28:39] I heard somewhere

[00:28:41] actually spoken off the FI but let's do that

[00:28:43] anyway afterwards

[00:28:45] this thing of the entry fee

[00:28:47] there is a base fee that every team pays

[00:28:49] which means there is a guaranteed

[00:28:51] income that

[00:28:53] the FIA gets from every team

[00:28:55] and then every point you score

[00:28:57] you pay an extra amount of money

[00:28:59] so technically Red Bull could have

[00:29:01] after clinching the constructors championship

[00:29:03] not scored points if they wanted to

[00:29:05] save money on paying the FIA

[00:29:07] but you know

[00:29:09] you have a lot more money to be made and you just paying

[00:29:11] the FIA what teams would

[00:29:13] consider as loose change

[00:29:15] just that it's a lot of loose change

[00:29:17] that's going the FIA's way

[00:29:19] and that my friends is how MBS buys

[00:29:21] the crispest of suits so that you can go to the most

[00:29:23] amazing awards shows

[00:29:25] and then utter some absolute

[00:29:27] horseshit

[00:29:29] that's what happens, that's how the entire cycle works out

[00:29:31] let's go to FIA right now

[00:29:33] they've been on this subject as well

[00:29:35] because

[00:29:37] you Kunal

[00:29:39] you had something to say about

[00:29:41] MBS because I remember when we were

[00:29:43] prepping we were all discussing our points

[00:29:45] okay what's our bold prediction for the

[00:29:47] FIA this year

[00:29:49] and for some reason it's the same

[00:29:51] prediction that we've had for the last 3 consecutive years

[00:29:53] and it still is as relevant

[00:29:55] as it was the first time we said it

[00:29:57] what is it

[00:29:59] Mr. MBS is going to

[00:30:01] continue to make a fool of himself

[00:30:03] unfortunately

[00:30:05] and I'll tell you why

[00:30:07] because

[00:30:09] Andretti has been denied entry in 25 or 26

[00:30:11] so he's taking that

[00:30:13] of course as a personal attack to the FIA

[00:30:15] and maybe to himself right

[00:30:17] well if I say personal attack it's first to himself

[00:30:19] and then the FIA right

[00:30:21] he's yet to strike back

[00:30:23] he will strike back

[00:30:25] if you guys know everyone who follows me on twitter

[00:30:27] I've been keeping a score of

[00:30:29] where the battle lines

[00:30:31] lie and I think it's

[00:30:33] two one

[00:30:35] two to FOM and one to FIA

[00:30:37] so I expect MBS to strike back

[00:30:39] let's hope it just settles

[00:30:41] rather than he sort of drags the FIA down

[00:30:43] you know another foolish

[00:30:45] joke because his

[00:30:47] tenure at the FIA

[00:30:49] is not being remembered for governance

[00:30:51] but more for

[00:30:53] poking his nose in places

[00:30:55] where he shouldn't be if that's the English phrase

[00:30:57] I can put it as

[00:30:59] wait but if you are a racing driver

[00:31:01] and you no longer go for a gap that exists

[00:31:03] you are no longer a racing driver

[00:31:05] hmm

[00:31:07] have we just cracked it

[00:31:09] have we just rationalized

[00:31:11] MBS's arguments and its stupid statements

[00:31:13] here and there well we shall see on that

[00:31:15] but on the FIA as well

[00:31:17] I think

[00:31:19] this year everyone is going to forget

[00:31:21] Andretti everyone but not us

[00:31:23] because back in 2021

[00:31:25] people forgot the infamous missile strikes

[00:31:27] in Saudi Arabia will be on the

[00:31:29] Inside Line F1 podcast didn't

[00:31:31] in 2022 people forgot about

[00:31:33] the stupid sandwich paper that got stuck

[00:31:35] in Alonzo's brake ducts but we didn't

[00:31:37] however

[00:31:39] same with Andretti people have already forgotten

[00:31:41] that whole fiasco a couple of weeks down the line

[00:31:43] but trust us on the Inside Line F1 podcast

[00:31:45] we are not going to let

[00:31:47] this one go we keep

[00:31:49] the battle lines drawn in and we

[00:31:51] never ever forget these things

[00:31:53] I think along with Andretti there are going to be

[00:31:55] so many other stupid things that the FIA

[00:31:57] are going to do that we will remember

[00:31:59] like the 1100

[00:32:01] track limits infringements

[00:32:03] that were potentially recorded in Austria

[00:32:05] we are not going to forget

[00:32:07] and my bold prediction is that this year

[00:32:09] track limits is not a problem

[00:32:11] that gets solved anyway

[00:32:13] it will continue to persist

[00:32:15] and I get a feeling Sundaram when we come to Austria

[00:32:17] mark my words

[00:32:19] minute 5 of the Austrian GP preview

[00:32:21] on the Inside Line F1 podcast the main talking

[00:32:23] point is going to be track limits

[00:32:25] I already marked my words

[00:32:27] how is that a bold prediction

[00:32:29] I don't get it because

[00:32:31] for me that is

[00:32:33] a three letter word that we tend to use in the corporate

[00:32:35] world it's called business as usual

[00:32:37] so

[00:32:39] there's going to be debates on track limits

[00:32:41] but I have a little bit of hope

[00:32:43] in the FIA because they tried out

[00:32:45] an AI based system in Abu Dhabi where

[00:32:47] supposedly they were able to make

[00:32:49] decisions a lot more quicker than they did

[00:32:51] previously but the whole discussion

[00:32:53] around track limits is going to continue

[00:32:55] in Imola, in Austria

[00:32:57] and even in Qatar

[00:32:59] so that's not a bold prediction

[00:33:01] it's business as usual

[00:33:05] well well what can we say about the FIA

[00:33:07] but I get a feeling

[00:33:09] that along with the FIA there's going to be

[00:33:11] so much more as well to watch for

[00:33:13] in terms of absolutely crazy

[00:33:15] crazy stuff which brings us

[00:33:17] to Alpine

[00:33:19] ok let's take a second guys

[00:33:21] to frame our thoughts because

[00:33:23] with Alpine we really have to

[00:33:25] let's take a deep breath in

[00:33:27] what's the first word that

[00:33:29] comes to mind for Alpine in 2024

[00:33:31] I'll go with you Kanal

[00:33:33] don't say Otmar because

[00:33:35] again that will be a bit too

[00:33:37] shameless one of a plug that we should do in a minute

[00:33:39] but what's the first word that comes to your mind

[00:33:41] a famine of points

[00:33:43] and poles and podiums

[00:33:45] and winds if that's the word

[00:33:47] I could use right

[00:33:49] nicely done

[00:33:51] thank you

[00:33:53] I predict

[00:33:55] that there will be a driver change here

[00:33:57] Alpine will need

[00:33:59] a star driver they have so many star

[00:34:01] investors suddenly I'm sure the star

[00:34:03] investors will say guys we are hanging out

[00:34:05] with all these drivers at the races

[00:34:07] but who's Okon

[00:34:09] who's Gakwi

[00:34:11] why can't you get a FETL

[00:34:13] why can't you get us a Hamilton

[00:34:15] it's like sitting in that forced India

[00:34:17] when Sahara Sri said the late Sahara Sri

[00:34:19] why can't we get Adrian Nui

[00:34:21] you know

[00:34:23] I get a feeling Miksumakam

[00:34:25] might just find himself back

[00:34:27] into Formula 1 via Alpine

[00:34:29] he's driving the hypercar category

[00:34:31] with them what will happen to Okon

[00:34:33] or Gakwi

[00:34:35] I get a feeling again in this old driver

[00:34:37] change thing they will find a place somewhere

[00:34:39] else to go actually I

[00:34:41] have a similar opinion on that

[00:34:43] I just

[00:34:45] look at Alpine this year

[00:34:47] and I feel that

[00:34:49] if they really have intent

[00:34:51] this is probably going to be the last year

[00:34:53] to feed the Gasly or Okon

[00:34:55] if they really have the intent

[00:34:57] because either of those two drivers will get frustrated

[00:34:59] with the team and they will voice their concerns

[00:35:01] and Alpine being Alpine

[00:35:03] will have to kick out one driver

[00:35:05] and we already saw signs of it emerging

[00:35:07] late last year with Gasly and Okon

[00:35:09] we saw something similar

[00:35:11] remember at Alpine with Alonso as well

[00:35:13] we had less friends with Okon

[00:35:15] until the end of the season

[00:35:17] when it all started to burst

[00:35:19] and when it burst it burst out bad

[00:35:21] I think something similar is happening

[00:35:23] this could be the last year of Gasly or Okon at this team

[00:35:25] and if they really have the intent

[00:35:27] it will not be the driver leaving

[00:35:29] they will kick a driver out

[00:35:31] but again if they have the intent

[00:35:33] this is before they kick another manager

[00:35:35] or a management person out I guess

[00:35:37] that's always going to happen

[00:35:39] two-year has to be like the limit

[00:35:41] we have a year without kicking out two senior managers

[00:35:43] the season

[00:35:45] and they will continue to say we don't want our engine

[00:35:47] equalized but we agree that

[00:35:49] our engine is down on performance

[00:35:51] yeah

[00:35:53] Alpine

[00:35:55] what about you Sundaram

[00:35:57] what keeps you engaged about Alpine this year

[00:35:59] nothing really I have only one question

[00:36:01] who's the boss

[00:36:03] that's my only question

[00:36:05] I know Kunal answered it in a way

[00:36:07] but I think this team has a lot going on

[00:36:09] internally as well so I really have

[00:36:11] no predictions, no expectations

[00:36:13] I'll just take Alpine as it comes this year

[00:36:15] okay

[00:36:17] but let's go to a bigger embedded team

[00:36:19] the team that really excites us a lot more

[00:36:21] is it time for Ferrari guys

[00:36:23] is it

[00:36:25] yes

[00:36:27] only after 10 years

[00:36:29] or 27 years with Mercedes it's finally time

[00:36:31] for Ferrari and that's the dream

[00:36:33] I've been dreaming of

[00:36:35] so it is time for Ferrari

[00:36:37] to get an exact 3.33

[00:36:39] million

[00:36:41] as an entry fee to the FIA

[00:36:43] there's a reason why I'm keeping count

[00:36:45] and I missed saying this right

[00:36:47] when we were talking to the FIA

[00:36:49] can you guys guess the number

[00:36:51] in millions that the FIA

[00:36:53] will get paid only in entry fees

[00:36:55] in 2024

[00:36:57] 50

[00:36:59] 40

[00:37:01] something you expect so much money

[00:37:03] to be made by the FIA

[00:37:05] because even the drivers pay

[00:37:07] sorry

[00:37:09] that's true the drivers pay for super license fees

[00:37:11] but I'm only talking of the team

[00:37:13] entry fee maybe that's a good point

[00:37:15] the next time we talk we should do

[00:37:17] driver super license fees as well

[00:37:19] what's the number

[00:37:21] $24 million in just

[00:37:23] entry fees for the 10 teams

[00:37:25] right and this is not

[00:37:27] changing the fact that the new rules

[00:37:29] into effect a driver can maximum

[00:37:31] penalize the million dollars

[00:37:33] for any infringement and whatever

[00:37:35] and so on it was quadrupled

[00:37:37] but either way going back

[00:37:39] to Ferrari

[00:37:41] my bold prediction is that

[00:37:43] this is no longer the clumsy

[00:37:45] Ferrari as we've known it

[00:37:47] I say this even though they put up

[00:37:49] an instagram

[00:37:51] reel and it was on twitter as well

[00:37:53] of a pit stop

[00:37:55] they called it poetry in motion

[00:37:57] it was a 3 plus second pit stop

[00:37:59] and they fumbled on the left front

[00:38:01] it was purely for the optics

[00:38:03] but they still didn't do a

[00:38:05] proper take

[00:38:07] but I say this because

[00:38:09] you know they of course had really fast pit stops

[00:38:11] last year so this is just an anomaly

[00:38:13] but I think what Frederick

[00:38:15] was putting in place out there

[00:38:17] is different than what most other

[00:38:19] managers did Frederick has come from the

[00:38:21] outside all the other previous managers

[00:38:23] who got sacked were all grown up from

[00:38:25] the inside of Ferrari itself

[00:38:27] they're on to something is what

[00:38:29] the prediction is

[00:38:31] I agree

[00:38:33] I think this year Ferrari are going to be P2

[00:38:35] in the team

[00:38:37] however I think they're going to be even cleaner

[00:38:39] than we've ever seen them to be

[00:38:41] because I get a feeling that this year

[00:38:43] Ferrari will win a race on strategic merit

[00:38:45] and we look at them and go

[00:38:47] hang on a second is that the same team

[00:38:49] that I've loved for all these years

[00:38:51] but my bold prediction is not that

[00:38:53] my bolder prediction is that

[00:38:55] the guy who ends up winning that race

[00:38:57] in the championship between their two drivers

[00:38:59] is actually going to be

[00:39:01] Carlos Sainz who will end up

[00:39:03] make Ferrari look extremely stupid

[00:39:05] this year because

[00:39:07] you don't let go of the guy who gave you

[00:39:09] your only race win last year

[00:39:11] he's like a cockroach no matter how much adversity

[00:39:13] you throw at him even if it's a nuclear bomb

[00:39:15] no matter if your team mate is maxed or

[00:39:17] stepping and he ends up smoking you away

[00:39:19] you still bounce back and that's what

[00:39:21] Carlos Sainz is going to be doing

[00:39:23] he's going to be raising his stock

[00:39:25] if he wins he will go

[00:39:27] mad Sundaram

[00:39:29] he will celebrate like an absolute maniac

[00:39:31] like he's never celebrated before

[00:39:33] with a vengeance, with a purpose

[00:39:35] he's going to be like hell yeah that's what I can do

[00:39:37] and that is my bold prediction

[00:39:39] for Ferrari in 2024

[00:39:41] now I definitely see

[00:39:43] Sainz going rogue because that's what

[00:39:45] is also my prediction but I don't know

[00:39:47] if Sainz is going to go to that extent

[00:39:49] with the celebrations

[00:39:51] you're absolutely right he was the only person

[00:39:53] to win a race last year apart from Red Bull

[00:39:55] and I don't think there was anything

[00:39:57] that was performance related why he was

[00:39:59] sacked for 2025

[00:40:01] see you have to wicket a driver

[00:40:03] your seat for a driver like Lewis Hamilton

[00:40:05] so he's going to take it badly for sure

[00:40:07] and I think there will be instances

[00:40:09] this year in qualifying or

[00:40:11] in the race where he disobeys

[00:40:13] team orders like

[00:40:15] Potas has done at Mercedes or Paddy

[00:40:17] Kello has done during his time with

[00:40:19] Braun or I don't know if he did that in Ferrari

[00:40:21] but I think that's definitely happening this year

[00:40:23] he's going to be like no

[00:40:25] I'm not sitting in the sky next year so I can do whatever

[00:40:27] please wait do you think he'll disobey

[00:40:29] or he will actually set the team orders right

[00:40:31] because that's the kind of stuff Kello signs does

[00:40:33] he'll set the team orders right

[00:40:35] he'll set it right

[00:40:37] well that's Kello signs

[00:40:39] and that's Ferrari

[00:40:41] what are we putting them in the championship guys

[00:40:43] P2 I would say so yeah

[00:40:45] P2 there we go wow

[00:40:47] Sundaram will give us a victory

[00:40:49] I don't know about victory sign

[00:40:51] maybe that's the victory coming in but

[00:40:53] I think Kello signs so long as he finds

[00:40:55] a positive cockpit and I really hope he's not

[00:40:57] he's not ignored

[00:40:59] by some of the top teams you know

[00:41:01] especially Red Bull and Mercedes have a

[00:41:03] seat available each and he doesn't make

[00:41:05] the cut that would be a bloody

[00:41:07] bad surprise for him

[00:41:09] and you know as much as he would hate it

[00:41:11] but he would find a position

[00:41:13] on the Ferrari strategy wall

[00:41:15] if he the strategy team

[00:41:17] would call if he so wanted it

[00:41:19] given that he can call races out so well

[00:41:21] exactly

[00:41:23] exactly so P2 for Ferrari

[00:41:25] great I like it

[00:41:27] a team that we've all got so much of passion towards

[00:41:29] a team with an incredible livery

[00:41:31] finally and let's go to

[00:41:33] a team with

[00:41:37] I don't feel any emotion anymore

[00:41:39] what is kick sour?

[00:41:41] what is this team?

[00:41:43] firstly how terrible are the graphics

[00:41:45] come on you're a Formula 1 team

[00:41:47] after your game how terrible is that livery

[00:41:49] it is so simple so plain and worst of all

[00:41:51] how bad is that name

[00:41:53] stick, sour, team, kick

[00:41:55] I

[00:41:57] get a feeling this year

[00:41:59] stick or kick

[00:42:01] or sour or whatever you're going to be calling them

[00:42:03] this year pick your call because even they

[00:42:05] don't know what they are

[00:42:07] I get a feeling they'll be the least spoken

[00:42:09] team of 2024

[00:42:11] and 90% people won't even remember their full

[00:42:13] name by the time the 2025 season starts

[00:42:15] because we will never see them on TV

[00:42:17] apart from a crash or a retirement

[00:42:19] or just your finally meeting butters

[00:42:21] nothing else is going to happen

[00:42:23] why do people even care about this team

[00:42:25] and just to build on that

[00:42:27] in 2026

[00:42:29] they will be called Audi

[00:42:31] which means take is spending so much

[00:42:33] money on calling a team

[00:42:35] by its own name and kick and whatever

[00:42:37] and I think steak and kick are the same brands

[00:42:39] or owned by the same people right

[00:42:41] imagine all that money

[00:42:43] and suddenly 2026

[00:42:45] ladies and gentlemen here's Audi joining

[00:42:47] the grid in formula one that I pretty

[00:42:49] much don't think Audi is going to say

[00:42:51] steak, Audi, kick, F1 team in their

[00:42:53] first season in the sport they want

[00:42:55] people to know that Audi

[00:42:57] is participating in formula one

[00:42:59] not steak, Audi, kick, F1 team

[00:43:01] whatever

[00:43:03] so imagine all that money for all that branding

[00:43:05] only for two years or less

[00:43:07] than that because pretty much

[00:43:09] half way through next year everyone is going to be like

[00:43:11] Audi is coming, Audi is coming, Audi is coming

[00:43:13] that's what's going to happen

[00:43:15] I exactly know what they are going to call this team

[00:43:17] it's going to be called in 2026

[00:43:19] Audi, kicks,

[00:43:21] Sour Formula One team's steak

[00:43:23] not bad

[00:43:25] not bad

[00:43:27] what do you mean not bad

[00:43:29] that's perfect

[00:43:31] that's perfect

[00:43:33] and at the end of the day

[00:43:35] I think

[00:43:37] there's no reason to remember them at all

[00:43:39] but if we had to go for a bold prediction

[00:43:41] I get a feeling this year

[00:43:43] Jogh Wanyu beats Valtteri Bottas

[00:43:45] because he's been improving consistently

[00:43:47] we have to make one bold prediction

[00:43:49] so why

[00:43:51] they're not going to

[00:43:53] nobody is going to remember it anyway

[00:43:55] so I might as well go crazy on this

[00:43:57] I think Joe is going to leave formula one

[00:43:59] be forced to leave formula one at the end of the season

[00:44:01] that's my feeling

[00:44:03] I think so too

[00:44:05] steak whatever

[00:44:07] let's just call it sour

[00:44:09] we'll have a new driver in 2025

[00:44:11] at least one new driver

[00:44:13] maybe Call of Science, we'll see

[00:44:15] that would be a horrible demotion

[00:44:17] that I wish never happens

[00:44:19] seriously I mean

[00:44:21] leave the guy at least one big seat

[00:44:23] he deserves it, come on F1 teams

[00:44:25] look at it in a more positive light

[00:44:27] but in the same way I get a feeling

[00:44:29] that this year could also be even bigger

[00:44:31] and better for Williams

[00:44:33] some positive intent towards them

[00:44:35] they have a team principle who's setting things right

[00:44:37] they have

[00:44:39] one young driver

[00:44:41] who's really proving all the wrongs right

[00:44:43] and I get a feeling

[00:44:45] they'll be in the P6 in the title

[00:44:47] they'll be somewhere in that battle

[00:44:49] and they do get a couple of top 5s this year

[00:44:51] courtesy not of Logan Sarge

[00:44:53] that's not the bold prediction

[00:44:55] courtesy of Alex Albon

[00:44:57] they really are

[00:44:59] I get a feeling this year

[00:45:01] we're going to go around it

[00:45:03] and Alex Albon will drive it further on

[00:45:05] however it's going to be like George Russell in 2020

[00:45:07] or 2021 rather I should say

[00:45:09] where you know one of your drivers is going to have such an incredible year

[00:45:11] that he ends up leaving the team

[00:45:13] and your other number 2 driver will actually end up scoring

[00:45:15] I don't know a bigger result first

[00:45:17] but you're just left

[00:45:19] with no big driver

[00:45:21] to build upon at the end of the season

[00:45:23] that's what I feel this story is going to be this year

[00:45:25] yeah, Alexander Albon leaving

[00:45:27] that pretty much is going to be

[00:45:29] the most expected and the bold prediction

[00:45:31] and you know at the launch

[00:45:33] Albon almost gave it away

[00:45:35] everyone asked are you here for the long run

[00:45:37] he's like I'm thinking 2024

[00:45:39] of course because if he gets an opportunity

[00:45:41] for 25 at Red Bull

[00:45:43] he or Mercedes he will go

[00:45:45] right and especially I think Red Bull

[00:45:47] because the Yui the family

[00:45:49] has been backing him since his go-kart

[00:45:51] days and they own 51% in Red Bull

[00:45:53] they wouldn't want a driver

[00:45:55] who's matured to suddenly

[00:45:57] go away and race for competition

[00:45:59] so I get a feeling that color science

[00:46:01] of course has shown the potential

[00:46:03] on track at Ferrari at different teams

[00:46:05] but Alexander Albon has

[00:46:07] that's high backing which is where that's

[00:46:09] going to go but above all else my other bold prediction

[00:46:11] is Williams finally won't have

[00:46:13] a slippery car

[00:46:15] so all the high-speed races where we say

[00:46:17] let's see what Williams does

[00:46:19] might actually not see them do too well

[00:46:21] because they'll build a car that does better

[00:46:23] at more circuits rather than just

[00:46:25] configurations

[00:46:27] so I think Logan

[00:46:29] Sargent is not going to be scoring

[00:46:31] points at least in the first half of

[00:46:33] the season that then leads

[00:46:35] him to vacating that seat

[00:46:37] and Williams then accommodates

[00:46:39] Kimmy and Tonelli for

[00:46:41] 2025

[00:46:43] yeah I think that's happening

[00:46:45] seriously I see

[00:46:47] that happening

[00:46:49] because how

[00:46:51] good do you think the kid is seriously

[00:46:53] he's rated extremely highly in the junior

[00:46:55] circuits and

[00:46:57] the reason why I think Mercedes is going to take a

[00:46:59] little bit of time to announce who drives

[00:47:01] with them in 2025 is they really

[00:47:03] want to see how Kimmy does

[00:47:05] through Formula 2 it's his debut season

[00:47:07] but there's also already been

[00:47:09] a little bit of signs that

[00:47:11] he is the big deal

[00:47:13] he is the real deal similar to Max or

[00:47:15] Stapin and Lewis Hamilton during their rookie years

[00:47:17] so I feel he is destined

[00:47:19] to race alongside Russell

[00:47:21] at some point in time

[00:47:23] but they probably wouldn't want to rush him

[00:47:25] so that's why they put him in Williams with Alex Albon

[00:47:27] give Fernando Alonso

[00:47:29] Mercedes gives Alonso

[00:47:31] a 1 plus 1 year deal

[00:47:33] and then Kimmy takes the seat whenever he is

[00:47:35] ready to take it

[00:47:37] I love how we

[00:47:39] literally pressured a driver

[00:47:41] who's only driven in Formula

[00:47:43] Renault till date which was last year

[00:47:45] right he's skipped Formula 3

[00:47:47] very bold I

[00:47:49] personally would love to just see

[00:47:51] even in Formula 2 if they're going to try and get him to make a switch

[00:47:53] he has the first 7-8 races

[00:47:55] to make an impression

[00:47:57] that's a lot of pressure, that's a lot of settling in

[00:47:59] that he needs to do

[00:48:01] there's a lot of quick drivers in Formula 2

[00:48:03] including Kush Mane

[00:48:05] Victor Martins

[00:48:07] and several other drivers

[00:48:09] so I get a feeling

[00:48:11] Antonelli is probably

[00:48:13] going to do 2 or maybe even 3 seasons

[00:48:15] in Formula 2 at least

[00:48:17] and he makes it to Formula 1

[00:48:19] because it's

[00:48:21] to get him into Formula 1

[00:48:23] is easy because Williams

[00:48:25] for example is going to get paid to have him

[00:48:27] but it's also about

[00:48:29] if you get him too soon

[00:48:31] are you going to kill the drivers confidence

[00:48:33] and the ability

[00:48:35] to settle in and so on

[00:48:37] so I wouldn't be surprised if he actually does 2 seasons

[00:48:39] in F2

[00:48:41] a lot of Antonelli is just media hype

[00:48:43] media talk

[00:48:45] he's been the best driver in F3

[00:48:47] since

[00:48:49] the last best F3 driver which was Max Wistap

[00:48:51] and I'm sure all of that holds great

[00:48:53] when we talk and we sort of

[00:48:55] explain why Antonelli is so

[00:48:57] special

[00:48:59] but I get a feeling that

[00:49:01] maybe there's a mixed Schumacher that's going to go back

[00:49:03] to a Williams if at all

[00:49:05] rather than a Kimi Antonelli

[00:49:07] I mean Kimi Antonelli if he has to make it out of

[00:49:09] Formula 2 and go into Formula 1 next year

[00:49:11] he needs to win

[00:49:13] Formula 2 races and especially in the first

[00:49:15] 7 or 8 races

[00:49:17] if he's able to win, put things on the podium

[00:49:19] and let's remember who he's up against

[00:49:21] as well he's got

[00:49:23] Oli Bam and the Maseris

[00:49:25] sorry the Ferrari Junior as well

[00:49:27] so lots of benchmarking that's going to happen

[00:49:29] at all times

[00:49:31] at this moment I think it's just purely

[00:49:33] for conversations

[00:49:35] that people are just saying Kimi Antonelli

[00:49:37] but I don't think he's going to make it there

[00:49:39] in 2025

[00:49:41] even though Tata Wolff is probably hoping otherwise

[00:49:45] and I tell you what though, I do like the idea

[00:49:47] of us discussing these young drivers

[00:49:49] and understanding where they could stack up

[00:49:51] because my bold prediction for McLaren

[00:49:53] this year

[00:49:55] is that their young driver Oscar Piastri

[00:49:57] will consistently

[00:49:59] outperform Lando Norris by the end of the season

[00:50:01] well folks, McLaren

[00:50:03] are getting better

[00:50:05] my bold prediction is that McLaren need a driver

[00:50:07] who can't just break the biggest trophy

[00:50:09] of the weekend but can also win it

[00:50:11] in crucial moments

[00:50:13] like Qatar qualifying

[00:50:15] Lando Norris hasn't delivered

[00:50:17] again, it was similar for Max before until he evolved

[00:50:19] but I get a feeling on that development curve

[00:50:21] Oscar Piastri has an edge

[00:50:23] in the mentality side of things

[00:50:25] he seems sharper, he seems tougher

[00:50:27] he seems harder, maybe it's his upbringing

[00:50:29] who knows but that is what I feel

[00:50:31] will help Oscar Piastri outperform Norris

[00:50:33] by the end of the year

[00:50:35] his toughness, he'll learn quicker

[00:50:37] will help him outperform Norris and by the end of the day

[00:50:39] I think he's going to be the future star of that team

[00:50:41] not Lando

[00:50:43] I have a slightly different view

[00:50:45] that view

[00:50:47] matches your view for 90%

[00:50:49] of it, I think Lando Norris

[00:50:51] will continue to be the star

[00:50:53] at McLaren

[00:50:55] but you know why

[00:50:57] because Oscar Piastri will be poached

[00:50:59] at some point

[00:51:01] very soon

[00:51:03] the reason why I say this

[00:51:05] is because I was having a long term contract

[00:51:07] my bold prediction is that at least one of them

[00:51:09] will not

[00:51:11] honor that contract

[00:51:13] they will find the seat elsewhere

[00:51:15] let's remember Lando could still be pulled out

[00:51:17] and brought into Mercedes

[00:51:19] if things don't look good

[00:51:21] from McLaren early part of the season

[00:51:23] so lots of performance clauses, exit clauses

[00:51:25] could come and after a point

[00:51:27] it's just a piece of paper

[00:51:29] if money you know exchanges

[00:51:31] bank accounts and teams and whatever

[00:51:33] because Mercedes is also going to look at a star

[00:51:35] driver to replace their star

[00:51:37] driver right they're not going to just

[00:51:39] put any driver in there even though

[00:51:41] you know Toto Wolf has been advocating

[00:51:43] for other teams to hire Mick Schumacher

[00:51:45] he's not going to put Mick Schumacher

[00:51:47] in the car when he suddenly got

[00:51:49] a vacancy out there unfortunately for Mick

[00:51:51] but that's my prediction

[00:51:53] I definitely

[00:51:55] I definitely agree with Somil as well

[00:51:57] I'm not

[00:51:59] sure if Oscar is going to outperform Norris

[00:52:01] or he's going to outscore Norris

[00:52:03] but I definitely think

[00:52:05] Piastri is going to get a race

[00:52:07] before Lando Norris

[00:52:09] and for those very same reasons that Somil mentioned

[00:52:11] he does have he's very calm

[00:52:13] composed and is able to deliver

[00:52:15] under pressure we've seen that

[00:52:17] with the sprint race last year as well

[00:52:19] where was that? Qatar?

[00:52:21] was it Belgium?

[00:52:23] so I definitely think

[00:52:25] if he finds himself in a position

[00:52:27] to win a race I think he's going to do it

[00:52:29] before Lando Norris

[00:52:31] that's my bold prediction

[00:52:33] I just think so as well

[00:52:35] he's got what it takes

[00:52:37] and at the end of the day

[00:52:39] as you start to go higher up the ladder

[00:52:41] it's not your raw pace

[00:52:43] it's not how you construct a race

[00:52:45] but can you deliver when it matters the most

[00:52:47] when you have only one chance

[00:52:49] where all the variables are only perfect

[00:52:51] for that one opportunity

[00:52:53] can you nail it at that point

[00:52:55] and Lando Norris consistently has failed

[00:52:57] I'm not criticizing him for that

[00:52:59] because remember Max Verstappen did that too

[00:53:01] at the start of the 2020 season

[00:53:03] and then I remember Kunal you and I had this gigantic discussion

[00:53:05] where I was just confused like

[00:53:07] why are you calling out Max Verstappen

[00:53:09] when he's getting pole positions

[00:53:11] but you said at crucial moments

[00:53:13] I still see him making mistakes

[00:53:15] and that's something he worked on

[00:53:17] and made himself better at

[00:53:19] if Lando is to be the world champion

[00:53:21] that we all think he's going to be

[00:53:23] that next step has to come this year

[00:53:25] he's really going to be schooling him

[00:53:27] once he gets to that skill and understanding level

[00:53:29] which could be very, very quickly

[00:53:31] there's something I saw on the internet yesterday

[00:53:33] and this is a stat

[00:53:35] that's not come from me

[00:53:37] supposedly Lando Norris is the first driver

[00:53:39] to not win a race

[00:53:41] in his first four years with McLaren

[00:53:43] I don't know how accurate this is

[00:53:45] I have to go back and check this

[00:53:47] but supposedly that's the case

[00:53:49] but you could also say that McLaren weren't that good

[00:53:51] back in 2019

[00:53:53] they were slowly going upwards

[00:53:55] from 2020 onwards

[00:53:57] but supposedly that's a stat

[00:53:59] quite clearly and let's see

[00:54:01] this is the year where it all is made up

[00:54:03] or broken up for McLaren

[00:54:05] but last theme that we have to go to

[00:54:07] is the most forgotten one

[00:54:09] Haas

[00:54:11] guys I have a question

[00:54:13] what is a reason for anyone

[00:54:15] to be a Haas fan in 2024

[00:54:17] there is no common passion

[00:54:19] there is no broad vision

[00:54:21] there is no aggression

[00:54:23] I'm not going to copy the angry

[00:54:25] but still there's no

[00:54:27] real reason there's no character in that

[00:54:29] team there's no broad winning mentality

[00:54:31] there's no higher targets

[00:54:33] that they're chasing and the only source

[00:54:35] of entertainment

[00:54:37] in the entire Formula 1 grid and the only reason

[00:54:39] why people were Haas fans is because the

[00:54:41] entertainment that Gunter Steiner offered

[00:54:43] is now also gone and they're not even

[00:54:45] a proper American team so that's another less

[00:54:47] reason to follow them and they're not also incredible

[00:54:49] and they don't have a real big underdog

[00:54:51] story because this underdog never wins

[00:54:53] so why do you follow Haas

[00:54:55] it's like if on a buffet

[00:54:57] you were served up and again I'm talking about

[00:54:59] people who do eat meat here but let's hypothesize

[00:55:01] right if you were given sushi

[00:55:03] sausages, pasta

[00:55:05] pizza and mashed potatoes

[00:55:07] why would you even look at the mashed

[00:55:09] potatoes unless someone told you

[00:55:11] hey buddy there's a really spicy

[00:55:13] mashed potato sauce that you can have with it

[00:55:15] that'll make it go extremely crazy and your head will

[00:55:17] drop off and that's when you say

[00:55:19] I like Haas, I like the mashed potato with the spicy

[00:55:21] sauce but now they've taken away the

[00:55:23] sauce so why do you want to eat

[00:55:25] mashed potatoes on that table

[00:55:27] there's no reason to follow Haas

[00:55:29] why do they exist, why are they here

[00:55:31] they're here so that

[00:55:33] the sport looks

[00:55:35] really bad when they keep denying

[00:55:37] an entry to Andretti

[00:55:39] they are here so that Andretti finally

[00:55:41] purchases a team rather than

[00:55:43] starts a new one I would guess

[00:55:45] no on a more serious note

[00:55:47] I think

[00:55:49] I've been a fan of Nico Halkenberg

[00:55:51] because I go back a long way

[00:55:53] with him through for India that's probably

[00:55:55] one of my reasons to you know sort of

[00:55:57] support the team

[00:55:59] I remember when I saw Williams's

[00:56:01] launch and I read Komatsu

[00:56:03] on the side part I'm like

[00:56:05] why is Haas's team

[00:56:07] principles last name on the side

[00:56:09] part I think that's what we're going to remember

[00:56:11] Haas

[00:56:13] in 2024 for having the

[00:56:15] name of a team principle on the

[00:56:17] side part and

[00:56:19] maybe let's see

[00:56:21] what they do I think they're also going to have

[00:56:23] a driver change in 2025

[00:56:25] I don't think Nico Halkenberg

[00:56:27] is going to stick around for too long

[00:56:29] I think he will be taken up

[00:56:31] especially if Audi is eyeing

[00:56:33] him and so on they might just say just bring

[00:56:35] him on now rather than waiting

[00:56:37] for later that's my board prediction

[00:56:39] can we be

[00:56:41] bored with them will they be last

[00:56:43] yes will they continue

[00:56:45] to do Ferrari you know customer

[00:56:47] deals yes and like

[00:56:49] I explained in the legacy you know they

[00:56:51] just been there because hey you

[00:56:53] you were with us through the tough day so

[00:56:55] we will take you through along

[00:56:57] when the sun is shining

[00:56:59] kind of thing who even knows

[00:57:01] well any predictions for you

[00:57:03] for Haas Sundaram before we finally wrap

[00:57:05] up this episode with the FOE very quickly

[00:57:07] you know like you mentioned there's

[00:57:09] no real reason to follow or like Haas

[00:57:11] but sometimes when they are

[00:57:13] able to deliver in the most difficult

[00:57:15] circumstances you really become a fan of

[00:57:17] the team just like what Kevin

[00:57:19] Magnussen did in Brazil

[00:57:21] 2022 and

[00:57:23] Nico Halkenberg did in Austria during

[00:57:25] the sprint he was extremely

[00:57:27] good in that

[00:57:29] Austrian GP sprint so

[00:57:31] I think Haas could steal

[00:57:33] a point in a sprint race this year

[00:57:35] I think that could be possible

[00:57:37] that's my bold prediction

[00:57:39] Haas will continue

[00:57:41] to build a car

[00:57:43] that goes quick over a sprint distance

[00:57:45] and not a Grand Prix distance

[00:57:47] right so it's the

[00:57:49] 6 sprints where Haas is really

[00:57:51] going to win a lot of fans not the

[00:57:53] 24 Grand Prixs

[00:57:55] let's say guys

[00:57:57] let's finally wrap up with the

[00:57:59] FOM right because we have to cover

[00:58:01] them as well what's our prediction for them

[00:58:03] this year

[00:58:05] I really don't know I just am totally

[00:58:07] blank about how ostentatious they can go

[00:58:09] but Sundaram what's your prediction for the FOM

[00:58:11] Formula 1 that is Liberty Media

[00:58:13] another street circuit one more

[00:58:15] street circuit because we don't have enough

[00:58:17] street circuits in Formula 1 so

[00:58:19] let's have more of that you know I was

[00:58:21] actually doing a little bit of research around

[00:58:23] this whole formula 1

[00:58:25] obsession with street circuits

[00:58:27] and the fact being we've not had

[00:58:29] a permanent racing track

[00:58:31] or a permanent racing facility

[00:58:33] turn up on the F1 grid

[00:58:35] after

[00:58:37] 2012

[00:58:39] after 2012 we've not had a new

[00:58:41] permanent facility debut in Formula 1

[00:58:43] yes you would say probably there was

[00:58:45] the Loseille track and everything but those

[00:58:47] were built back in 2008 so quite

[00:58:49] clearly there are fewer permanent

[00:58:51] facilities in F1 nowadays

[00:58:53] and F1 is going the whole street circuit

[00:58:55] route bring Formula 1

[00:58:57] to the fans rather than the other way around

[00:58:59] so I think there's going to be a

[00:59:01] lot of more street circuits but please

[00:59:03] not in the USA

[00:59:05] I think it's going to be

[00:59:07] a 25th race that will be announced

[00:59:09] at some point we know Liberty

[00:59:11] Media is lining that up

[00:59:13] thanks to external

[00:59:15] factors like climate change

[00:59:17] like the war like to various reasons

[00:59:19] we've actually never had a 24 race

[00:59:21] calendar so if we have

[00:59:23] a 24 race calendar this year

[00:59:25] which seems more and more likely

[00:59:27] right they will work on announcing

[00:59:29] the 25th one most likely a

[00:59:31] street circuit is where I guess

[00:59:33] which means we are just going to get even more

[00:59:35] busy as the season

[00:59:37] goes by but

[00:59:39] how ostentatious how much

[00:59:41] louder can the Las Vegas

[00:59:43] Grand Prix get is also

[00:59:45] going to be something that

[00:59:47] we're going to be looking out for this season

[00:59:49] I think it'll only get that much

[00:59:51] louder they would have fixed the man holes

[00:59:53] which is a great thing

[00:59:55] but that's just where it's going to go

[00:59:57] with Liberty Media I think it's become

[00:59:59] they've realized that their efforts

[01:00:01] drive to survive etc has really

[01:00:03] brought in newer audiences

[01:00:05] we don't care if they're trolls

[01:00:07] if they are lesser known people but these audiences

[01:00:09] are thronging the circuits

[01:00:11] circuits are seeing record attendances

[01:00:13] budget cap is helping

[01:00:15] teams become actual business

[01:00:17] entities and

[01:00:19] this is their time to milk the money

[01:00:21] so that 25th race is coming and maybe

[01:00:23] maybe it's going to be

[01:00:25] the United States of America a fourth one

[01:00:27] I like that you said that the budget

[01:00:29] budget cap is helping teams become

[01:00:31] business entities rather than

[01:00:33] saying that the budget cap is getting the grid closer

[01:00:35] yeah okay

[01:00:37] clearly that's not happening

[01:00:39] that's not happening

[01:00:41] but I'll put it this way

[01:00:43] slight disagreement here because

[01:00:45] despite the budget cap Aston Martin made

[01:00:47] the 22 to 23 jump

[01:00:49] and then McLaren did the whole 23

[01:00:51] thing where they started bad

[01:00:53] they ended up really good now what

[01:00:55] everyone is really hoping for

[01:00:57] and shit this is my best point less

[01:00:59] for the 60th minute I hope people

[01:01:01] have stuck around for can any

[01:01:03] team do what Aston Martin

[01:01:05] and McLaren did

[01:01:07] in one season together

[01:01:09] with the budget cap in place

[01:01:11] so you make such a big jump

[01:01:13] and everyone's anyway

[01:01:15] keep going to keep saying you know the

[01:01:17] rules have been around for

[01:01:19] a long time for convergence of

[01:01:21] performance to happen we'll keep hearing these

[01:01:23] big terms I will literally get to see

[01:01:25] in Bahrain and qualifying not in pre

[01:01:27] season testing yeah exactly

[01:01:29] I think if anything

[01:01:31] it's not going to be Alpine so keep an eye out on

[01:01:33] that but if you want to know why

[01:01:35] teams are facing troubles making those big

[01:01:37] jumps because of the budget cap well we had

[01:01:39] Otmar Saf now around the show to tell us

[01:01:41] exactly that so make sure you check

[01:01:43] out that episode which is a two

[01:01:45] part special where Otmar has told us

[01:01:47] so much more about his force in the

[01:01:49] why Alpine didn't work out but folks

[01:01:51] those are our bold predictions and

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[01:02:01] respond to you and discuss more of that in depth

[01:02:03] thank you so much for listening

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