Fireside Chat w/ Raoul Hayman and Sohil Shah

[00:00:00] comments on Sohail which is your first Instagram post says racing because football, baseball,

[00:00:06] bowling and golf require one ball. Why do you do this to yourself? All of your problems are

[00:00:12] self-inflicted. Come on dude. I mean... Now he's gonna explain, he's gonna explain what it means.

[00:00:18] Okay, right. First point, I was... What does it mean? Hello, hello and welcome back to F1 Fanfiction,

[00:00:35] the first fireside of this year. I know we've been a bit late, I mean four months in and easy

[00:00:41] fine and lazy. Yeah that's the bigger reason but yeah. But yeah here we are for first fireside

[00:00:47] of the year and a good one, a good one at that too. So yeah stay to the end to hear whatever's

[00:00:53] been said. If you're seeing this on video, if we do put the video out you can see a snitch

[00:00:59] here and there's going to be a few things being said which we can't guarantee on.

[00:01:06] Man, it's already out there ducking.

[00:01:12] Let's get on with it. We are your hosts. I am Akash and I'm Sarang and I'm Solshah

[00:01:18] and he's also one of the hosts. I'm Raul, fourth host. And by the way we are guests

[00:01:24] today and your hosts are Sohail and Raul. So welcome. This is the Raul and Sohail podcast

[00:01:29] and we're hosting Akash and Sarang. It's nice to have you here. What have you been up to

[00:01:33] the last six months? Yeah not too much, you know putting out the first podcast of the year. I

[00:01:38] know we're a bit late, you know it's April but at least we're earlier than F1 Fanfiction.

[00:01:46] It's not bad.

[00:01:50] Perfect. All right so for people who don't know these are the champions of

[00:01:57] IRL for 2023 and Raul why don't you tell us a little bit about your own

[00:02:04] like journey through getting here so that our fans know all about you.

[00:02:09] Okay, so I'm Raul, Raul Hyman. I was born in South Africa. I have Indian origin,

[00:02:15] fifth generation Indian. I now live in the UK, moved over here. I've been here for

[00:02:20] I think it's 14 years now with my family. We all moved together so I live in London and

[00:02:28] yeah I've been racing since I was in South Africa. Started in go-karts over there.

[00:02:32] I think I did about two years there. Was fortunate enough to win a championship which

[00:02:39] is kind of why we carried on like we thought okay we're a little bit decent at this.

[00:02:42] So that was good and then came to the UK, did a couple more years in karting and I mean

[00:02:48] that was a huge shift because the karting in the UK is very different to the scene in South Africa.

[00:02:54] You know in South Africa you'll have like 20 drivers per race maybe and maybe five guys who

[00:03:01] are good enough to win and then in the UK you pitch up and it's like 60 guys per race event

[00:03:08] and everyone's rather decent so that was a big shift and then cut a long story short went

[00:03:13] from there to Formula 4. Raced or was BRDC Formula 4 so that was in the UK only.

[00:03:20] Came third in that championship and then did you know a couple years of Formula 3,

[00:03:24] GP3 in 2017. Went into Asia F3. Was fortunate to win that championship

[00:03:32] with high-tech GP and then did another year of F3 in 2019 on the Saba Junior team

[00:03:39] and then the pandemic hit so had to take you know two years off. It was like a sabbatical

[00:03:45] which wasn't great. You know obviously everybody wants well racing drivers want to be racing

[00:03:49] but I was you know fortunate enough that I managed to finish the legal degree that I

[00:03:54] was studying for during that period and then came back 2022. I won the Formula Regional

[00:04:03] Americas Championship and in doing so I've got a scholarship to be racing in Super Formula

[00:04:08] in 2023 and in 2022 and 2023 I was invited to race in the Indian Racing League

[00:04:16] which is what brings us here. Obviously 2022 I didn't do the whole year but in 23 I

[00:04:23] was able to and so Hill and I managed to win the championship so a bit longer than

[00:04:29] wanted but you know my eye color is brown you know 60 kgs but yeah that's about it.

[00:04:40] So a little about yourself. Yeah so I'm Sohal, I'm Indian, first generation and

[00:04:49] apparently like ancestry is part of a potluck now so

[00:04:52] oh yeah no because you say South Africa and everyone's like what happened to you

[00:04:56] so that's why I have to say but he's first generation nobody asked him questions

[00:05:03] but yeah so I started racing pretty late at the in 2017 I did like half a year of karting

[00:05:09] and then moved straight into cars after that the FLGB 1300 and the JKTAR F4 championships won

[00:05:16] the FLGB and finished rookie champion and the JK and then moved straight into F1600s and that's

[00:05:23] the stage where I was competing against the guys who taught me racing so I was quite nervous

[00:05:28] luckily I was pretty decent at that as well finished runner-up and then there was one round

[00:05:33] in Southeast Asia Formula 4 Southeast Asia that I did with a second place finish and

[00:05:40] just one round not the whole season followed by X1 where I was the reserve driver which was

[00:05:45] also prior like the first edition of Indian Racing League. Right right.

[00:05:49] Move on two years of COVID and then I end up in the Formula 4 UAE championship with

[00:05:56] Mumbai Falcons for about two months and then we skipped to the two seasons of IRL

[00:06:01] obviously the first season I was paired with Amir and not Raul main difference being

[00:06:07] the height but we made sure that when we came into the 2023 season

[00:06:12] we literally my head was like this sitting in the car and Raul's steering was basically

[00:06:18] inside his chest so that we don't kill the mechanics by moving pedals up and down every

[00:06:26] time we get in the car but yeah it was it's been a fun time.

[00:06:33] That's quite an interesting point you brought up and you know one of the things that we

[00:06:37] wanted to know as well like what is it like sharing a car like that's I think not

[00:06:42] I mean endurance racing is pretty common there. It smells man.

[00:06:51] It's still open no it doesn't smell. No but yeah I mean I mean this year it wasn't exactly

[00:06:58] like sharing a car you had a car to yourself for the whole day really on the weekends.

[00:07:04] Climate changes. Yeah so we had the car set up for one of us on Saturday and the other

[00:07:09] person on Sunday but realistically we wanted I mean we could see exactly how hard it is to

[00:07:13] move the pedals in this car because of the way the holes are placed and it's very weird so

[00:07:18] the mechanics told us and we tried our best to fit in the same pedal position which we had

[00:07:23] to make compromises for but I think that's part of racing right you always have to

[00:07:27] somebody else's benefit. Wait so but how tall are you Sohail? So I think I'm six feet.

[00:07:34] Okay. Okay. You're actually it's probably like 5'12 or something.

[00:07:39] Just rounding up that's fine. The five 11 is basically six. No I mean I'm

[00:07:46] five six so you know it's a very chunk I mean I see it doesn't sound like much but in

[00:07:51] well I mean right girls it does but in the car it actually makes a big difference you know

[00:07:57] if you know but in the car it makes a big difference because you know I think we got pretty

[00:08:02] fortunate also with how hard you have to hit the brake you know because like for instance

[00:08:08] you know in a like a super formula car you have to really hit the brake quite hard so you need

[00:08:12] a bit of a bend in the leg which is actually normal but in the wolf cars which is what we're

[00:08:20] racing in IRL you know I could get away with you know having my leg pretty much straight

[00:08:24] you know and it was just the calf muscle moving so well the calf you know and my

[00:08:28] foot's just moving like that so and then obviously so he'll have got a bend in his leg you know

[00:08:34] because you know that's just the difference on height and then in terms of the like the heights

[00:08:38] of you know our heads I don't think there was a huge difference to be honest at the end of it

[00:08:43] but then yes as so he'll says like for him I think the steering was probably you know just

[00:08:49] about okay for me it was quite close so I was like driving like a like a tyrannosaurus

[00:08:53] but again you know it's not a heavy steering wheel so yeah it worked out you know and it was

[00:08:59] fine and I don't think you know we didn't have like once we made the seats and so on

[00:09:04] you know we didn't have to make any changes you know it was like just put the seat in and

[00:09:08] seats in and out and even the belts I mean I can't remember I don't think we had to change

[00:09:12] the length of the belts anything you know it was it was fine so yeah I mean I think

[00:09:16] it worked out pretty well. It's interesting man because they're like what I'm thinking

[00:09:19] right now as you all describe this is you'll have gone from like different other F4s,

[00:09:28] MRF championships and then coming to a whole season or whatever two months of driving

[00:09:36] as if either there's nobody in the car and like you've taken your commercial car like

[00:09:40] seat all the way back or you're taking like seven passengers in the car and you have to

[00:09:44] sort of like go all the way ahead but you're racing and you want to be the most comfortable

[00:09:50] right so how does how does that change man because I mean I mean I don't know how do

[00:09:53] you adapt to this is there even an adaptation that you can do? I mean we all we made sure that

[00:10:00] we were always comfortable to drive like when we were driving we weren't thinking about how

[00:10:04] close or how far I am from the steering wheel or how my neck is as long as I can visually see

[00:10:09] where I'm going I can hit the brake throttle and I'm not moving around too much to me it's

[00:10:14] okay and I think it's the same with Raul like you know he was he felt okay being

[00:10:20] close to the steering wheel but it wasn't so close also and yeah he had to compromise more

[00:10:25] than me in my opinion because his legs are fully stretched like we like he mentioned earlier

[00:10:30] and he was really close to the steering wheel so honestly the pace that he showed with

[00:10:34] being a bit more uncomfortable than he should is insane. Oh thanks man

[00:10:39] I need to try and keep you again for the next season. We just pick each other up the whole time

[00:10:49] the best driver in the world no but I mean yeah like it's quite different you know you go from

[00:10:54] like in a single seater a traditional like a formula car like the wolf car is a single seater

[00:10:58] right it's not you know it's not a formula car right so the one thing is it's quite

[00:11:04] different there's a lot of space in the wolf car right like in the cockpit like on the sides

[00:11:10] so that's pretty different you know because if you think a lot of the guys that will drive

[00:11:14] these cars you know in Europe or in the U.S. and so on you know you've got the

[00:11:20] gentleman driver aspect of it so you know those guys aren't always you know like slim

[00:11:26] so you know you need a little bit more space right so the other thing that you have to

[00:11:31] consider when you make the seats it becomes a lot more difficult you know than the majority of like

[00:11:38] the cars that we would have been making seats in because you need a lot of foot well for me

[00:11:42] for instance I needed a lot of foam right like imagine so the way you make the seat you put

[00:11:46] a lot of foam and it molds around your back and I imagine there's a four or five foot

[00:11:52] whatever it was different it's not five foot sorry about the inches inches difference between

[00:11:57] me and so hill so like I needed a lot more foam around me than so hill did but now because the

[00:12:04] you know because there's so much space in this cockpit it was like like really that might all

[00:12:09] the mechanics are like really that much like you know you're not just wasting it sort of

[00:12:12] thing I'm like no no dude like if if I don't then um you know imagine like so I've got

[00:12:19] the seat here right so in a in a car like that we drive normally this will come you know

[00:12:23] right like next to my shoulder you know you can't move you know it's just your head right yeah so

[00:12:29] imagine now if the bag which was the instance like the bag wasn't actually big enough that

[00:12:34] we'd put the foam in to get around you know once the phone the foam expanded so then it was

[00:12:40] like right I'm driving but like my shoulders are moving or you know my you know upper body

[00:12:45] is kind of like moving side to side yeah we had to figure something out for that there was

[00:12:49] a lot like actually you know like um just involved with the seat but when the good thing

[00:12:53] that we had was you know obviously so hill did the year uh in 22 I did you know like one or

[00:13:00] two events in in 22 as well so we knew you know what the difficulty was because I remember

[00:13:06] like my seat in 2022 was like a disaster right that was my fault okay but like um in

[00:13:12] 2023 it was you know it was legit like you know I was pretty happy with what I had you

[00:13:16] know we even managed to add a bit more foam on the sides and all that you know I was pretty

[00:13:20] sort of pedantic about it but you know we got we got it sorted you know but um you know there's

[00:13:26] a lot of other differences like you'll come from a formula car to drive um you know the wolf car

[00:13:31] you know first like you know in the modern era everyone has a halo yeah you don't have a

[00:13:36] halo so also the way that the the front of that car is slanted you know the wolf it's um

[00:13:41] it's like slanted down so then you look and it feels like there's like visually like there's

[00:13:46] nothing there like as in you know you're just like you're just exposed you know you're just

[00:13:51] like you're floating above and you're sitting really high but it's only just because the

[00:13:55] car you know the front is slanted down you know the nose whereas like in a formula car

[00:13:59] it is a bit but it's a lot more sort of straight you know yeah I mean you yeah but

[00:14:05] I mean you could you could probably see the wolf one more but you can see where it ends

[00:14:08] and it's kind of like well there's not a lot of space there you know let's not let's not go

[00:14:12] nose first into a wall you know but like yeah it's it's definitely different um but yeah I mean

[00:14:18] at the end of the day it's you know so now we have the the same sort of opinion it was

[00:14:22] like it's just driving you know um at the end of the day it comes down to just driving

[00:14:26] so so yeah I mean I think we both we both had some you know stuff to learn from each

[00:14:30] other like just mentality wise and yeah it's interesting that you guys touched on you know it

[00:14:35] it's a different experience because it's a different type of car yeah than what we normally drive so

[00:14:40] so yeah that was it was interesting to think about it one follow-up to what you just mentioned

[00:14:45] so from what I get basically you also kind of have to do like a seat adjustment right like

[00:14:50] like a thing so that you get all the foam pieces right and like fill in this space

[00:14:55] correctly so do you like swap it out when you are changing drivers like is it like an insert

[00:15:00] that just like goes in entirely I'm just want to know a little bit more we have our own individual

[00:15:05] seats right yeah yeah so yeah so it's like we just remove it and we remove it see people

[00:15:11] mind vice versa just straight forward yeah but then once you've done the seat you don't need

[00:15:17] to do anything else you know like it's um because you've already set up the pedals for

[00:15:21] that pedal position you know so like the steering and the pedals you want that as

[00:15:25] constant this is interesting man imagine yourself going from the hotel to the race track carrying

[00:15:30] a seat with you right like hey I need this for the race today no I mean with the mechanics and

[00:15:36] the team I know but someone in the metro I have seen it so oh no I forgot my seat

[00:15:44] yeah I mean like in in the U.S. it's a thing you know because um there you have to make like

[00:15:49] a beaded seat you know in regulation rights and those are a lot more expensive than the

[00:15:53] phone you know maybe two maybe sometimes even three times the price right so um a lot of the

[00:16:00] time the driver like you know if you're testing with the team for the first time and you haven't

[00:16:04] got a seat you make that seat right but then you keep the seat if you want it but you'll see

[00:16:09] guys like checking in and out of the air you know with their seat um which is you know it's

[00:16:15] a bit different like you wouldn't normally see that in Europe but uh yeah I mean every now

[00:16:20] and then you'll have that kind of thing luckily we didn't have that so

[00:16:25] all right um Raul tell us a little bit about your experience with the super formula championship

[00:16:31] and like from what we hear I think uh the scholarship that you had gotten was basically

[00:16:36] for the 23 season and from what we hear you want to return back to the next season as

[00:16:40] well so do you have any plans for like I think the the opportunity was great you know like

[00:16:47] the in theory the the scholarship you were in the scholarship in in formula regional americas

[00:16:52] the reason for that was um we were driving with honda engines so then you know that

[00:16:57] scholarship put me into super formula the difficulty we had was like everything I mean

[00:17:03] the we got to the the championship and uh unfortunately I think I say I think it's pretty

[00:17:11] clear now that we were allocated a car um a chassis really that that wasn't quite right

[00:17:17] you know I didn't really uh get a chance to you know at any point during that that entire sort of

[00:17:24] experience show you know show what I was capable of which is um pretty gut wrenching

[00:17:28] you know you go through an entire season uh driving around finishing at the back you know

[00:17:33] even though you're trying your you know your best and giving everything but it wasn't like

[00:17:38] how would I say it wasn't like ambiguous it was like no it's pretty clear there's a problem

[00:17:42] but uh you know we just didn't we weren't able to to fix it I say I say we be myself and the

[00:17:48] team um you know I was pretty clear on on what I wanted but we weren't able to to get that

[00:17:53] fixed and you know even had other drivers drive the car and um yeah they had the same feelings

[00:17:59] so um so yeah that's why I say I mean it's never nice to to go somewhere to do a to do

[00:18:05] a season of it um and not show what you're capable of you know and then leave it like that

[00:18:11] so you know for me this the scholarship is you know was for the one year um I did get a chance

[00:18:16] to test at the start of this year in uh you know in super performing another in another team

[00:18:22] uh well mainly just with another car but it was another team as well and uh you know it

[00:18:26] was a lot different you know firstly you know last year I was driving around we we had

[00:18:30] one engineer um you know bear in mind these these cars are they're quicker than any car

[00:18:35] it's four or five seconds slower than formula one at Suzuki you know they're the fastest cars

[00:18:40] outside of f1 and uh you know it's just just have like one engineer on it is

[00:18:45] you know it's like a banana to a gunfight sort of thing you know and um yeah I mean it was

[00:18:50] it was a it was a mess you know like the amount of data I think there's like 127 channels

[00:18:55] that you're getting of data you know it's it's a very very data-based championship you

[00:19:00] know because you're looking at ride heights dynamic ride heights as well you know damper

[00:19:04] tracers all all sorts I mean stuff that goes you know beyond us as the drivers you know

[00:19:10] it's an engineering formula right and I have one guy it doesn't really work

[00:19:15] when when I tested it started this year you know we had they were I think they were like

[00:19:20] I don't know on just on my car five guys five or you know and one in the in the team

[00:19:24] 10 and five just on my car so and then of course the car itself was hugely different

[00:19:30] so you know I drove it first couple laps I was like yeah okay everything last year had nothing

[00:19:34] to do with my how would I say it like my um ability it was more just it was you know it

[00:19:40] was um it was what we had to to work with but so you know as I say like you know the

[00:19:44] scholarship was for the one year um so you know it's kind of left me in the lurch a

[00:19:49] little bit because the whole plan was to go in 23 you know show what I'm you know what I

[00:19:54] was what I was capable of and then you know you earn a you earn a drive for the for the

[00:19:58] following year but then when you're running around at the back and you you haven't got

[00:20:01] anything to show you know you're not obviously going to be earning earning very much so you

[00:20:06] know for me the priority is to try and you know get back in uh you know even if it's

[00:20:10] for a couple events you know this year I think um you know I'm more than confident you know

[00:20:15] especially after testing I'll be able to perform and show what I'm you know capable

[00:20:19] of and and I think in doing so I'll be able to to kind of work my way back you know to where

[00:20:24] I want to be but um in order to do that at the moment we're looking you know for sponsors and

[00:20:30] just you know some sort of support and um you know that's probably the hardest part of racing

[00:20:35] you know so you ask any driver that's yeah yeah yeah we'll keep at it and we'll see what we

[00:20:40] can do. I still remember we had uh Adwit Deodor I think who uh races for like a Euro

[00:20:45] NASCAR and what he told us like uh as a racing driver half of your job is just marketing

[00:20:51] yourself rather than anything else yeah and like what you say it doesn't come naturally to a lot

[00:20:57] of us but uh you know a lot of us we just want to drive uh you know it's the annoying part of

[00:21:02] racing you know like it's um it's not like football or or tennis or anything like that or

[00:21:07] you know you're just your performances yeah it's what's been all your ability or your hard work

[00:21:11] in the sense of the physical attributes but it's more um you know all the other stuff

[00:21:16] than the politicking and the and the raising of sponsors as well so so yeah very different

[00:21:22] very niche but uh at least we get to drive. I want to ask so Hildes um so for your for

[00:21:30] your lgbf4 if i'm not wrong that car has a manual stick in there right would you go back

[00:21:38] to that or like are you enjoying the paddles see obviously the paddles are fun but the racing has

[00:21:47] never been better compared to lgb like because you're all mechanical at that point right like

[00:21:52] it's the driver it's not even that like it has zero dirty air and half a second of slipstream

[00:21:59] over the line so you're all even if you're like a second off the guy who's on pole you'll

[00:22:06] be with the leading pack provided even at those speeds like slipstreams and and does it really

[00:22:12] play a role i mean yeah i mean i'll be honest i don't know exactly understand as to why that

[00:22:17] car has so much of slipstream but honestly i can be i can be half a second behind at the part

[00:22:21] of lap three for say for example and at the lap at lap four i'll be right on his back

[00:22:27] ready for a move interesting and you can you can always use the gearbox uh because you have

[00:22:32] the clutch and everything to play with right you can always use some techniques and slide

[00:22:36] your way into the corner from like nowhere and still make your moves thick nice on that same

[00:22:42] note right like so you've done um f4 saua and obviously f4 irl however you see irs right like

[00:22:49] i mean they say it's f4 reels but um how sort of like has it been different right between

[00:22:55] the three genres and like what's the goods or the bads that you feel like you know one

[00:23:00] should adapt from the other i mean obviously i did lgb first i experienced this slipstream i

[00:23:06] experienced zero to none dirty air yeah uh so it was it was like okay this is what i'm sort

[00:23:11] of expecting when i went into the south east asia championship even when i did the 1600s

[00:23:16] the biggest difference between this uh 1600s and lgbs was that there was again zero to

[00:23:21] no dirty air but there was also no slipstream in 1600 that was very minimal so you have

[00:23:25] you had to be like really close to the car in front to be able to make a move or like much faster

[00:23:30] than the guy i had to be able to make a move and when i did southeast asia i was struck and

[00:23:35] that was the first time of me experiencing dirty air like proper dirty air i was like

[00:23:40] i would struggle to get within one second of the car in front i'm like shit it can't get

[00:23:44] worse than this then go away there's no chance and then you do the other championship like

[00:23:49] got worse so then you start i was really good friends with uh arjun mani and kushma

[00:23:56] at that point so i always ask them for help and tips like okay what do you do

[00:24:02] and what is the things that i'm looking for that i'm trying to do when i'm in dirty air

[00:24:08] or when i'm trying to overtake a car so obviously they helped me a lot through my

[00:24:12] own career myself as well uh in terms of helping me as a driver in that regard dirty

[00:24:18] air got worse and then you get to irl and the moment you're close to about two to three seconds

[00:24:23] of the car in front the dirtier starts hitting you and it's it's it's really bad then you

[00:24:29] compare what do you think but honestly at this point we just expect it like yeah it's gonna be

[00:24:33] bad just find a way but then did any of those tips sort of like help as the pace increases

[00:24:40] yeah so it's like so obviously i'm not i've not been to the higher motorsport levels yet

[00:24:45] but i what i assume is the higher you go in the level like the more downforce your car produces

[00:24:51] the more dirtier it also produces because yeah technically your wings and your the arrow is not

[00:24:57] working the same way anymore so just correlates and with with irl what i've really noticed in

[00:25:03] terms of when we have been working on the car with the setup with our engineer oh shout

[00:25:07] is really good um uh darren by the way his name so so uh yeah so basically when we're working

[00:25:16] with him and i've understood like the car is very sensitive on arrow to the point where even

[00:25:21] if i enter the corner like say for example if i try to back off and if i enter the corner a

[00:25:26] few k slower the car will be completely different and it'll be very different interesting

[00:25:32] interesting i mean i i also ask i mean when i asked that question there was a

[00:25:37] thing going in my head which is like if you could pass that on to raul and it all is driven

[00:25:43] with george as far as i know maybe he could pass it to him and know how to defend against

[00:25:47] alonzo long shot or whatever right yeah something like that i mean if george was

[00:25:58] getting tips from me at the end of the day i think i take it at my career

[00:26:07] i mean like for me personally i thought like the dirty arrow wasn't that bad

[00:26:15] i mean you know something just just just as soheil was talking about it i saw raul's

[00:26:20] face and he was like he was not very impressed i'm like okay i'm sure not not impressed i'm

[00:26:24] just like i'm like wow it's quite different you know because i mean i mean look the okay

[00:26:30] the thing is this as soheil said you know the higher up you go the worse it gets right so

[00:26:36] like in f3 or or you know super formula you know sure as well it you know does get pretty

[00:26:43] bad you know and you lose you lose overall um overall grip but you know about a lot more

[00:26:48] yeah um you know with with the wolf car i thought you know it wasn't you know it was bad it wasn't

[00:26:55] like horrendous though you know like it was like okay there's still some things that you

[00:26:59] can do you know which is it's what um what soheil was saying as well you can still get around

[00:27:03] it you know with the with the way you know you'll trail the brake or the amount of speed

[00:27:08] you'll carry into the corner you know if you're i found that if you were if you're

[00:27:11] comfortable you know catching the car which um you know soheil was quite good at and i was i

[00:27:15] was pretty confident to do as well um you know you can go in expect it you know you'll go into

[00:27:21] the corner really quickly behind someone else maybe quicker than you should but the car is

[00:27:24] going to snap it over still because you've gone in on the brake but you know as i say soheil

[00:27:28] um so he was really you know his car control is very good but you know for me

[00:27:31] it's like i've got the experience to know when it's going to go but you know in like

[00:27:36] an f3 or you know or a super formula or whatever you know you'll a lot of the time

[00:27:42] you just can't do anything you'll just you'll just sit there depending on depending on you know

[00:27:45] the pace difference between you and the guy ahead or um you know the the track you're at or

[00:27:52] you know whatever the tie situation is a lot of the time you just you're like right i'm stuck

[00:27:57] and that's why you've got like push to pass and super formula or uh drs in formula 2 you

[00:28:02] know you need it like for us we didn't need it you know like still there was a lot of overtakes

[00:28:06] you know like you know john lancaster he had a really good race you know he overtook like

[00:28:11] five cars or something like that um you know i remember the year before last year you know i

[00:28:16] i was able to overtake a couple people because you know there was a there was a pace difference

[00:28:22] um you know but it's not as as terrible uh you know as um as the bigger cars

[00:28:28] um so yeah i mean at least we don't need to you know break test people

[00:28:33] um

[00:28:48] no but do you remember this is the highest amount of dirt here i've experienced

[00:28:54] no that's what i'm saying you know like it's it's it's um it's so so different you know the

[00:28:58] higher up exactly uh you'll go but like it's also you know you'll lose in different places

[00:29:03] you know like um i thought with the um the irl car what was good was that you just lost front

[00:29:10] you know for me i thought like the rear end of the car is still okay but you just lose

[00:29:14] the front so then you can hold the brake you know you pitch the car a little bit more

[00:29:18] you know on the entry into a corner and then you're probably in juice and oversteer

[00:29:23] and and then you know you've gotten your front up until that point you know what i mean

[00:29:26] so you can still get around the corner but with um you know with with the other cars that i was

[00:29:30] talking about before it's like you lose overall you know so sometimes you'll be behind someone

[00:29:35] then you're like understeer understeer understeer snap but like you you never had a chance you

[00:29:39] know in some corners uh and like a lot of the time you know with the the guys who really

[00:29:45] make it happen in the races you know like um who make all the overtaking moves and all that

[00:29:49] kind of thing it's not so much that they're you know brave on the brakes or they're great

[00:29:53] overtaking all that kind of thing it's it's more that they they get close enough you know

[00:29:58] they're able to get around the dirty air is it true that seven years back at a gp3 sprint race

[00:30:05] you led every lap from lights to flag at the red bull racing ring you say seven years back

[00:30:12] it doesn't sound as cool that's a long time man i'm sitting here i'm like what have i been

[00:30:19] doing since exactly that's what i'm saying like when he said he started in 2017 i was like gosh

[00:30:28] i'm old yeah this is not ideal thanks for the reminder guys appreciate always no but i mean

[00:30:34] yeah no but if it is we had but if it is then i'm talking to the i mean i can't even

[00:30:40] remember how many people have done that but i'm talking to once how does that feel right

[00:30:45] lights out to flag leading every every lap it was weird like um the racing was fine you know i

[00:30:53] it was like any other race like you you i started on pole um got a decent start and

[00:30:59] you know from there the guy behind was um uh juliano lacy and then behind him was um

[00:31:06] nire for kuzumi um you know they had the drs and it was kind of just like right

[00:31:12] don't mess anything up because they've got drs but you know for me i was the car was was really

[00:31:17] good and i was quick in all the right places to do you know to not even have to defend you know

[00:31:22] what i mean like yeah i was driving you know aware of you know the guys behind but i could

[00:31:27] never get more than a second away because they had the drs you know which was worth you know

[00:31:30] a couple well a fair amount per lap okay that it was just a race but it was kind of like

[00:31:35] afterwards it was like oh okay you know i've won you know i've won a gp3 race great but for

[00:31:40] me it was like right the next target is to win a you know win a feature race and you know and so

[00:31:44] on it was kind of i remember i crossed the line and uh i was like okay great like we won the race

[00:31:49] and then came out at turn one and the first thing i told was like right okay now you know

[00:31:54] we've started now now we have to you know we have to we have to keep this going and

[00:31:58] and you know figure out what you know the what's the secret to to getting better to to

[00:32:03] winning the main race on a weekend or that kind of thing and um you know i think for me

[00:32:08] at that time it was like everything is very results based um which don't get me wrong it's

[00:32:13] the way the sport is but um i think for me personally it was kind of like i won the race

[00:32:18] but there was like there wasn't really any fulfillment from it you know it was like okay

[00:32:22] like i've won the race um and i realized i was like right it doesn't feel as good as i thought

[00:32:26] it did and i always wondered why you know like um i thought that was pretty weird and it

[00:32:31] was only until you know later in in my career when you know i was i was winning again um and

[00:32:37] i realized i was like it's not it's not so much you know just winning and it's a random thing

[00:32:42] you know you need to you need to figure out why you need to know that the work that you're

[00:32:46] putting in is paying off and the only way that that's going to be the case is if you're

[00:32:51] actually working you know harder than everyone else or working as hard as you can at the least

[00:32:56] and um you know then when you win you're like right okay you know all those days and nights

[00:33:00] at the gym or all the time on the simulator or you know if you're trying to get sponsors and

[00:33:05] all that to get you there or trying to get the team to help out you know it's stressful but like

[00:33:11] once you put it all together it's like right okay that's why i won you know it's not so much

[00:33:15] i just woke up i was good on the day i won the race and i don't feel anything at the end

[00:33:18] you know so yeah it was um it was a good feeling but like i think for me it's like

[00:33:25] i think it was a good learning experience as well so um so yeah that's uh that's that but

[00:33:30] seven years is a long time thanks for that add to that uh i think i believe this is with every

[00:33:36] driver when you're starting pole and you know you have a chance to win the race i think every

[00:33:42] driver's head is just like don't mess up the start and you'll be okay don't mess up the side

[00:33:47] you'll be okay yeah go through turn one in first and you're like okay now don't make any

[00:33:51] mistake and you'll be okay you'll be okay and then turn to you lock up i didn't look oh yeah

[00:33:56] that's i did go off like you know austria turn one you can go right right right like i was

[00:34:03] like right i'm gonna break away later than i need to so i break super late and then went

[00:34:08] wide uh but it was kind of like right okay because i remember um my dad was like oh you

[00:34:12] drove really well except for the first lap and i was like typical asian parents

[00:34:16] no no i was like i was like only 98 percent yeah no no i went off so that i didn't have to

[00:34:28] defend in the turn two you know i like i i got on the power super early ran wide and came back

[00:34:33] but of course that's what they remember but you know anyway fabulous job but turn one

[00:34:40] one exactly exactly yeah well at least you got your mistake out early yeah the rest of the race

[00:34:48] was just stress for them uh all right let's switch gears a little and talk a little bit about

[00:34:58] this previous season of irel tell us about a little about so first of all it's a pretty

[00:35:04] short season per se say like just uh two two ish months three ish months and uh how do you adjust

[00:35:11] to the team and everything in such a short amount of time and make everything work like i feel

[00:35:16] like if if i meet somebody and working them i mean it takes time to you know get get the

[00:35:22] good working relationship with anybody for us yeah for for us go as the team go isis uh all

[00:35:29] four of us were really the same drivers again uh so that way things became a lot easier we just

[00:35:36] shuffled around the driver pairings and uh the lucky part of even like how the engineers was

[00:35:43] just picked out of a lot like okay taren goes to goa and so and so for the others even the

[00:35:49] mechs were picked out of the lot and turns out the mechs that the indian mechs that i get

[00:35:53] for our team were the guys who have worked with since the past few years nice so that way uh i

[00:36:00] think raul and i would for our car at least raul and i would just discuss on what we want how we

[00:36:04] want we'll discuss with darren how things need to go and darren will speak to the engineers

[00:36:09] and i will put in my work to the mechs and i'll put in my own word to my to make that i

[00:36:14] know really well and things will move fast and i think the fact that me and raul were

[00:36:20] fit with the same pedals made me give us a lot more time in general to work on the cars rather than

[00:36:26] keep fiddling around with the pedals up right so in that way i think things went a lot smoother

[00:36:32] then we could and obviously the indian mechs are really friendly with everybody and plus raul is

[00:36:37] brown and not white so

[00:36:50] like i would say whatever i want yeah exactly that's why and he didn't even swear you know but

[00:36:55] like you're still gonna have to look into cutting that one out

[00:37:00] i just point being that the the engineers or the mechs just think that he's

[00:37:05] right basically indian and i'm generally comfortable to talk to

[00:37:08] i i think that's like generally a plus point yeah yeah yeah i mean like for me i

[00:37:16] i um look i i always like it when everyone's kind of how do i say like on the same page in

[00:37:22] the sense of you know we're not just there to kind of make up the numbers you know like

[00:37:26] we want to be there to you know to win you know it doesn't matter you know what it is or

[00:37:31] what we're doing and you know that's why for me like i mean i remember before i was just

[00:37:35] praying like that we get good guys you know like and and that's what we got you know we had

[00:37:41] um darren as the engineer like he pitched up and he was keen i've got a glare coming in he was

[00:37:48] he was like super super keen um you know to get everything you know like fully fully on point

[00:37:53] to be honest like i i thought that we did have a car that was you know better than everybody

[00:37:57] else's in terms of setup you know like um some of the gaps that we had you know

[00:38:02] i i wouldn't attribute that to to just me and so hill like i i really think that the car was

[00:38:08] set up extremely well and you know that came down to darren damien uh you know who was another

[00:38:15] you know we say foreign obviously he's from europe um but he's foreign in india so uh yeah

[00:38:20] so um he was he was really good as well and then you know rajkumar who was you know our

[00:38:24] mechanic that was really on point uh you know and then everybody else that we had and then

[00:38:28] even of course um yeah so this guy he's my guy as well now

[00:38:32] um you know but i um you know even even um you know amer and uh and gaby uh you know they

[00:38:41] they contributed as well like to the setup and you know they had a bit more of a tough time

[00:38:45] of things um you know in terms of uh just the way some of the races fell for them they had

[00:38:50] some some issues you know throughout the season with the car as well that you know we kind of

[00:38:54] only got towards the end of the of the season but like literally you know everyone

[00:38:58] wasn't just there for fun you know we were all like right okay it's not you know a lot of the

[00:39:03] drivers you know especially the europeans it's not their main you know championship right

[00:39:09] you know and it's the same for the engineers you know so like imagine like

[00:39:14] they it sounds horrible right but like they'll still get paid if they don't win you see what

[00:39:20] i mean like it's not the same for them like so when you get guys that pitch up and they're

[00:39:24] like right okay you know our wages are secure and you know we're getting paid and all this

[00:39:28] but they're competitive enough to be like right okay we want we want more we want to win we want

[00:39:32] to see our guys come first or we want to make sure we have the best car so that at least our

[00:39:37] guys should have come first you know that's that's how that's how everyone was you know and

[00:39:42] like i think we got really really you know fortunate and blessed to to have that and

[00:39:47] like we we felt it you know from day one and um you know in terms of integrating like uh you

[00:39:53] know new people and so on like darren and damian were new for this year you know the engineers and

[00:40:00] you know i think we were we were happy from from the first hour that we were with them because

[00:40:04] you know they were just on point yeah to add to the setup bit honestly pre-season testing uh

[00:40:10] day one raul wasn't even there uh but day two he had come and it was just so he'll that made

[00:40:15] the car fast you know

[00:40:36] that's not what i meant but like you know it all wasn't there for day one he comes in day two and

[00:40:41] i discussed everything i understand from the car with him he doesn't even drive day two and

[00:40:45] we share our opinions with the uh engineer and honestly darren and damien the work they've put

[00:40:51] in we've not driven the second half of pre-season testing and we've just worked on

[00:40:55] understanding the uh workings of the car the way it's working if we do certain things what is

[00:41:00] the car behaving as and we spent lesser time on track uh in pre-season testing compared to

[00:41:08] the others and spent most of it on understanding the uh workings of the car and i think that's

[00:41:14] one of the key reasons as to why we were able to get the car so well set up for

[00:41:19] the championship and i had and darren and damien the way they worked on those honestly i would be

[00:41:25] me and raul would be on the side bantering around with other people listening to music every

[00:41:32] every about 15 20 minutes will be back guys hey guys how's it going everything good

[00:41:36] anything something that we should know that you just act like we're professional

[00:41:41] instead of our speakers right yeah i mean the moment they said that yes we found something we

[00:41:47] we'd switch on our modes we'll be like yes this is the time we need to be here we need to be

[00:41:51] here we need to understand what they say so when we come back from our practice sessions

[00:41:56] or from our runs we know exactly what to tell them okay this what you've done

[00:42:00] is working this what you've done is not working and maybe tried this that you'd mentioned

[00:42:04] this earlier you know that might work so things like that but i think that that was one of the

[00:42:09] key parts of the championship the part before the championship um but about like like

[00:42:16] discussing race strategies or like car setup or or you know getting getting there i've heard

[00:42:22] so hell question for you i've heard uh you've got or you found or you've invented this this

[00:42:27] strategy especially for like mmrt i think back from 2018 where you and like three other drivers

[00:42:33] were exchanging positions and you decided to sort of like not accelerate for a second on

[00:42:38] some position of the track took advantage of that they break you fucked off and then eventually

[00:42:44] won the race is this something like heather about last year wasn't similar but now you're

[00:42:51] at mmrt again do you think you've sort of like used this this hack or like discuss this

[00:42:56] with so uh or whatever um i've genuinely not come up with this strategy as such

[00:43:04] uh i did bro you told me you did come up with a strategy and they were all too stupid to work it

[00:43:08] out look at his face he you can see that he's like i'm saying you think the best part is

[00:43:16] if it's if if this clip is not there it's already only so it's yeah

[00:43:20] yeah i'm just saying i'm like you're pretty proud of it you're like all those guys they

[00:43:26] think they're so smart and then he looks out his trophies like look at my trophy

[00:43:38] i mean there was there was uh an individual strategy just involving me i was fighting for

[00:43:44] the 1600 championship uh i was on pole the guy i was fighting with was on second and

[00:43:49] i basically and the thing is that you know if we both drive at full speed we will run away from

[00:43:53] the rest of the field so i used the hamilton 2016 strategy abu dhabi where i would try and

[00:43:59] slow him down where i can and uh and he will have to back off but forgetting that this is

[00:44:06] not formula one we ended up crashing so i mean yeah there was there was uh that but

[00:44:14] otherwise uh if you mentioned 2018 2018 i was doing lgb right so lgb we there was uh three people

[00:44:22] me vishnu prasad my coach at the time and a third driver who and we three would be like in

[00:44:28] the front of the pack with it like from our team let when i say front i mean the top 10

[00:44:33] because the grid had 10 national champions at the time it is my first year in a in a full

[00:44:38] season so us three being there we come up with strategies like you know like if one of us makes

[00:44:44] a pass on one person it has to be done in such a way that the other two also get passed

[00:44:49] but it's not just us right if the other teams as well you know they have the exact same

[00:44:53] strategy we always want to make sure that the team moves up together and uh it's always

[00:44:59] like you know the person at the back has to make sure that the other person doesn't get

[00:45:02] passed because if he does get part right then we me and the guy in front of me who he went

[00:45:07] sandwiched between have to come up with a plan on spot to get either completely behind or off

[00:45:14] wow okay i mean now now does he struggle to believe that he put the other guy in the wall

[00:45:23] he just said he wants them off the track and now he's acting like oh yeah i didn't come up

[00:45:27] with the plan i'm not the mastermind criminal mastermind guy is like don for

[00:45:33] yeah i i shouldn't have listened to raul before the start of this uh call that's all i'm gonna say

[00:45:40] Raul gets what i'm saying but that's about it yeah

[00:45:44] oh boy love this

[00:45:48] which so there was a hurdle there was a hurdle uh before before the starter right like

[00:45:53] that's what i told that i told so he'll to have some truth serum and he was very very

[00:45:58] happy i am basically doing your guys jobs for you like exactly yeah yeah just say yeah it is

[00:46:06] soul and raul podcast yeah exactly we already said that so you know yeah exactly yeah we have

[00:46:11] mere spectators here but okay now the most important question that i need to ask you okay

[00:46:16] uh to raul how was it meeting the man the legend uh gunter steiner fox machine do is

[00:46:24] have you met him yeah i met him um so as part of winning the the regional america's championship

[00:46:32] the prior one of the prizes they were like you can go to the miami grand prix so we go

[00:46:36] as as guests of hearts so um yeah i mean we went and um sat down with him like he was he

[00:46:44] was really actually he's a really cool guy like to be honest um like the thing is he's he's as

[00:46:49] um off camera did you pop smash his door no no no no just the just the table that we were sitting

[00:46:56] in and um i remember like uh he was talking about like all sorts of motorsport like he knew

[00:47:02] a lot you know like you can see that he's just motorsport mad um not just like f1 like you

[00:47:07] know he knew what was going on in in super formula like i told him you know who i was

[00:47:12] with and he's like yeah you're screwed like i was like man i'm like one event into the

[00:47:16] season he's like yeah no you're screwed i was like yeah pretty much you're not wrong but um

[00:47:22] i go like just direct you know to the point and then he knew what was going on and obviously he

[00:47:26] he's got a bit of nascar experience as well and um when he knew what was going on there

[00:47:30] he knew what was going on in f2 and f3 you know that's a bit easier because you're

[00:47:34] obviously on some of the weekends but you know even in like the regional stuff he knew

[00:47:39] what was happening so you know that i was pretty surprised and impressed you know that

[00:47:42] his passion is is pretty um well i mean it's on point yeah and uh just honestly he's just a

[00:47:48] pretty nice guy you know so yeah that was it was cool it was cool to meet him for sure

[00:47:53] i hear you also got a chance to meet uh nico and uh came out oh yeah yeah no no good guys

[00:47:59] good guys it was funny like um like so he'll get it i mean like it's it's you know how

[00:48:04] when they'll bring someone into the box like to meet the drivers and you're with another

[00:48:09] driver like that's in the team that you're in and you're kind of just like all right this is a bit

[00:48:12] awkward because i don't know who you are but uh we'll just make our own jokes and everyone

[00:48:17] else will be comfortable that's how they were because they were like we don't know who these

[00:48:20] guys are because it was me and the the guy who won the f4 championship and they were just like

[00:48:24] bantering with themselves and it was kind of just like all right we're just there and like

[00:48:29] we're comfortable now just because you know they seem cool but um yeah no good guys

[00:48:33] obviously there was you know they were focused on their weekend you know you can't obviously i

[00:48:38] had no intention of of um you know kind of being there any longer than they i would want someone to

[00:48:44] be there for me do you know what i mean like as in to i wouldn't want to run the meeting or

[00:48:47] anything i think um you're saving grace for me for that whole thing because i mean obviously

[00:48:53] it was really cool to go don't get me wrong like i don't want to sound terrible but like

[00:48:56] once you've you know seen the car in the pit box and you know the cars go out like

[00:49:02] it's just an empty pit box and like you're not really you're just there so um i um i know

[00:49:09] uh pietro fittsipaldi uh from when we used to race together you know a couple years back like

[00:49:14] we're good friends and um you know he was there as the reserve so he um you know he he you know

[00:49:21] as reserve driver will be going through all the data but it's you know it's live you know so

[00:49:25] they have all of the the gps data but for you know for everyone because you know in f1

[00:49:30] everybody's got the gps of everybody else so you know they all look at you know the you know the

[00:49:35] the driving approach from the drivers you know whilst it's actually happening you know on the

[00:49:39] on the data and i quite like the data myself so you know i was i was there and i was able to

[00:49:44] see all that and um you know it's interesting you know because at the end of the day like

[00:49:49] you know everyone's like oh it's formula one but it's just another car you know like don't

[00:49:53] get me wrong it's an awesome car and it's high high level right but you know when you

[00:49:58] look even the way the team is set up you know like the garage is it's just a lot more stuff

[00:50:03] high level stuff very expensive stuff but you know they've got the wings in the corner they've

[00:50:07] got the you know the side pods the same place we all put the side pods you know they've got

[00:50:11] the engineers just a lot more of them you know a lot more computer screens and you're just like

[00:50:14] oh it's just a race team you know just obviously with a huge amount of money change

[00:50:18] photos no sure but like at the end like do you know what i mean it's just

[00:50:24] at its core that's right yeah it's just a race team you know and you're kind of just like oh

[00:50:28] the scale is not like these guys are you know on a different planet you know okay the

[00:50:32] engineering level yes but you know even the driving you're like right okay they're still

[00:50:36] looking at the brake shapes and the braking efficiency they're still looking at you know

[00:50:40] maybe they're like for instance when we were watching i think it was i don't know if this

[00:50:44] is correct but i i know one versus the other it was like um magnuson would go in a little

[00:50:50] bit too hard into a couple of the corners and then his minimum and exit speeds were pretty low

[00:50:54] and then hulkenberg was just a little bit slower in and then fast out and it's just like

[00:50:59] yeah okay that's what that's what we're looking at you know it's not rocket science

[00:51:03] it's driving it's just at a high very very high level so yeah that was it was pretty

[00:51:09] yeah it was pretty cool to see that interesting that's pretty cool and i think that like

[00:51:13] probably like humanizes them first of all like because uh we hold these 10 drivers you know

[00:51:20] in such high regard that you know kind of forget at the end of the day they're humans and you know

[00:51:24] like it's it's still like everything is still kind of the same at the ground level so that's

[00:51:28] pretty nice yeah i'm actually going to take over from you both for a second you know

[00:51:33] yeah so so raul you mentioned that uh you can see uh magnuson entered so did you have

[00:51:41] telemetry data access i don't know what you're talking about no i mean look no no it was

[00:51:49] fine like um it wasn't like i wasn't looking at data that was confidential do you know what

[00:51:55] i mean it was literally every one of the f1 teams have access to the gps data of um well

[00:52:03] all the cars on the track i mean to be honest i think there's a way of getting it yeah even if

[00:52:07] you're not at the track as in without a team so i think so because you'll you know you'll see

[00:52:12] it on yeah exactly like in post on instagram do get it like we discuss it at times so

[00:52:17] post for sure but i mean live maybe not so yeah yeah live it was cool but it's just like all right

[00:52:21] like well i wasn't sitting there posting stuff so yeah i mean it was it was literally just gps

[00:52:29] stuff but as i say like i mean you know you overlay it with other other drivers you're like

[00:52:35] ah okay you know it's just data so on the note of husk i mean there's this clip two years

[00:52:42] ago uh where so you said uh

[00:52:52] so uh hey does that statement still hold true or does that change to lp or williams now

[00:53:02] i think every formula one team has more money than i do so they have enough

[00:53:04] uh

[00:53:09] i know i mean i'm obviously uh missing the whole context here and then you know on purpose skipping

[00:53:15] the whole part um but anyways that's so hill man he says what he wants yeah exactly no filter

[00:53:22] no filter and unfortunately didn't have anyone cropping out parts of the video

[00:53:26] that you guys are gonna because that was on a live screen nobody could of course it was

[00:53:31] hey wait wait but when moses can you just go back and delete the videos you know like no

[00:53:38] don't tell me don't obviously i mean i wanted to be there for someone like me who's you know

[00:53:42] looking things up and finds this obviously it's going to be there um anyways if has to

[00:53:51] respond to me you know yeah of course yeah yeah that's the money for the formula one team

[00:53:58] should call them up you should get a number in case they won't call you yeah you should you should

[00:54:03] no i'm saying you should tell everybody your number

[00:54:08] it's plus nine one i've got it here actually

[00:54:14] all of the girls that he wants uh all the way i got it uh no no no i'm i'm stuck to one and

[00:54:19] i'm good with that one right now

[00:54:24] about the irl srinagar uh like exhibition event that went by uh tell us a little bit

[00:54:31] more about that how was your experience there yeah no i mean the event was good you know but

[00:54:35] like uh the you know first of all uh huge thanks to for so rppl for even initiating

[00:54:43] stuff that's off the indian racing league season uh itself now i see you know like they had a plan

[00:54:50] ready for everything and they are up there they are working on it clearly there's obviously

[00:54:54] more show runs coming and i don't i don't think i can say much about it but yeah the srinagar

[00:54:58] event first of all in jammu and kashmir is uh one of the union territories in india and

[00:55:04] obviously very important for a place like that to get so much recognition out of the blue

[00:55:09] no but you know honestly uh rppl first of all huge thanks to them for the exciting promotion

[00:55:14] with indian racing league and gnk tourism itself to be able to promote stuff like this

[00:55:19] and allowing stuff like this to happen because it happened on the dal lake road i'm sure

[00:55:25] it's it's like the most pristine or like the the most important road of srinagar yeah and

[00:55:30] it has and i will tell you right now from experience it has the best view right while driving

[00:55:38] i don't think i was focusing on driving i was i was just i was told to wave to people i was

[00:55:42] waving and looking right at you similar to what you were doing and then yeah i was just yeah i

[00:55:49] was just spinning around waving at people like you know the fans will come to see us

[00:55:54] uh and some animals on the side um but no yeah it was a very well uh organized event there

[00:56:03] was structure to it there we had time for rehearsal before the event the whole road was

[00:56:09] completely closed there was support from the cops from the police uh department of jimmo and kashmir

[00:56:14] and uh obviously jk raya being a part of the event as well filled in gaps uh that you know

[00:56:23] filled in the time they have their own amazing stunt show that they do at almost every single

[00:56:29] event of their so i mean driving cars on two wheels two corners i mean that's just insane

[00:56:34] like yeah i don't think i'll be for how much i'd like to learn it i'm as scared to learn it

[00:56:39] as i am to do it that doesn't make sense but yeah but now i mean it's a wonderful event

[00:56:46] uh i will not lie about this but my engine was always when we're racing it's at 70 to 80

[00:56:53] yeah in temperatures and he has his hand up saying something and he's like oh yeah

[00:56:59] mate i'm not saying i broke the engine you know i still need to put the finger up but like

[00:57:10] another story no but it made uh the the power is always at 100 degrees celsius

[00:57:16] so like uh it was pretty hot even after but like what's the reference like give us a reference

[00:57:22] that like for everybody else they're like cool because 100 degrees that's very that's very

[00:57:27] close to the engine entering overheat mode oh it wasn't our engine right it was it was

[00:57:33] an orionac car so don't worry okay okay cool yeah i i i did whatever we put you up for the

[00:57:38] next round and the thing blows up i'm like okay what's that not akhil's probably listening

[00:57:44] to this and he's like wait did they take my car there uh i will not lie i do know who

[00:57:51] started it okay

[00:57:59] okay

[00:57:59] we have a fresh car ready oh yeah that's fun used to me

[00:58:04] no but but yeah the moment i've learned that it's not my car i'm like yeah cool

[00:58:09] whatever i'll drive yeah what do you want me to do burnout you want me to slide you want me

[00:58:14] to crash i'll do it hey raul you hate anchovies on pizza what about pineapple on pizza what how

[00:58:23] do you what what yeah we know shit he's he's he's surprised that how do you know that

[00:58:33] like that's such a small random detail i i asked myself this as well as i learned this like

[00:58:38] i know this is in my room yeah sitting there on his deep dive oh yeah anchovies on pizza

[00:58:45] he's got it he's got his note point number five ralph does not like like anchovies yeah and you

[00:58:51] i mean they're overpowering man i know but like i mean yeah what about pineapple i don't know i

[00:58:58] mean like um i i haven't had it in a long time like i've never really would i order it no

[00:59:06] would i like slate someone for ordering it also no like i don't i don't care if you're gonna have

[00:59:10] a pineapple on pizza it's just not for me but yeah i want to end this with one question

[00:59:16] just for like comments on so hill which is your first instagram post says racing because

[00:59:22] football baseball bowling and golf require one ball why do you do this to yourself

[00:59:31] you know i mean like all of your problems are self-inflicted do you know what i mean like

[00:59:38] come on dude

[00:59:52] okay so first first point it was i was now he's gonna explain he's gonna explain what it

[00:59:57] because we don't understand what does it mean

[01:00:02] no i don't know what it means and the second thing i think yeah 90 percent of my posts on

[01:00:10] my instagram are like uh google racing codes and i'll find something ah this is interesting

[01:00:17] dude my best part of the whole thing was reading going through each and every of your

[01:00:21] posts and just i hope i hope you see that i'm getting in pattern in yeah those i didn't

[01:00:28] pay because there's a whole paragraph for some of them and i'm like i don't want to read this

[01:00:32] because that's not fun going down no no like raul has got some entertainment for the day now

[01:00:36] i'm so so keen but you know there's some some beautiful parts can't be discovered

[01:00:43] without getting love and then here's a picture

[01:00:49] this is amazing i mean this one's all right speed has never killed anyone suddenly becoming

[01:00:59] stationary that's what gets you now the best part is that he's felt stationary as stationary

[01:01:06] so suddenly becoming a pencil that's what kills you i need to change that thanks

[01:01:13] oh man it just gets better and better oh boy i love this oh my god wait i need another one

[01:01:22] but yeah no thank you thank you for joining us uh this was a fun fun episode definitely yeah

[01:01:28] thanks guys appreciate it we had we had a good time being here as well i did i mean i'm sure

[01:01:32] it's so he'll watch it back and wonder why he said i was more like yeah no no i'm actually

[01:01:37] questioning uh everything all the things i've done so he was like can we record the entire

[01:01:42] thing again he's an existential crisis all of a sudden i love this guy he's brilliant

[01:01:49] anyway all right thanks guys on that note these are our hosts signing off bye