People who inhabit the tech world do odd things. Take everyone's favourite tech company Apple for example. Did you know that when you agree to the T&Cs for iTunes, you agree not to use it to make nuclear or chemical weapons? Or the rumoured conditions where the warranty of your Apple computer is voided if you are a smoker? Am sure there is a technicality hidden here somewhere :-).
If this was not baffling enough, they have now created another world for themselves within that world - lovingly called the Metaverse (Episode 2 of 3TB).
At 3 Techies Banter, we felt that we could make that world more understandable for all. And 15 episodes later, we think we did that quite well. So, through data privacy, crypto, AI, ESG, blockchain, Women in Tech, and a few dollops of Gen Z, we have reached the Finale of Season 1.
In this Season 1 Finale episode, we reflect on what has transpired since we started our podcast in Dec 2021, some updates on tech trends and of course, the "where we screwed up" section. Do keep listening to the show - sharing and rating 3TB helps even more :-). We will love it if you record or write in your feedback.
Parting factoid - surgeons that grew up playing video games more than 3 hours per week make 37% fewer errors and have a 42% faster completion rate when it comes to performing laparoscopic surgery
See you all in Season 2.
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Speaker 1: for finance, economics, politics, technology and everything is two or
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Speaker 1: which was huge problems
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Speaker 1: suddenly crypto became acceptable donations coming this in there. And
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Speaker 1: I think the big issue was this three dominance of
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Speaker 1: realising should be really been with the dollar because, you know,
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Speaker 1: becoming a passenger in a very vulnerable position. That Vienna.
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Speaker 1: So they started talking about all kinds of directorate the rupee,
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Speaker 1: ruble trade kicking off and people connecting networks and siding.
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Speaker 1: The Ukraine war itself has had some very
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Speaker 1: reflecting mission of Russian soldiers and being sent all kinds
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Speaker 1: which is completely unprecedented. So before you jump in militias
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Speaker 1: of the war is also digital. And
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Speaker 1: I remember when we had done episode on 50. If
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Speaker 1: the U. S dollar in a couple of years may
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Speaker 1: It'll in other. The interesting thing is that while the
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Speaker 1: I think the Singapore government is trying to get the
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Speaker 1: NTC repeating connected with them directly. So you know, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of other things happening
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Speaker 1: that this world think all the de dollarisation of the
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Speaker 2: a length a few days back about you on right
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Speaker 2: and how we want to trade in yuan rather than dollar.
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Speaker 2: We spoke about it during our trip to see BDC
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Speaker 2: episode that you won becoming digital suddenly, you know, poses
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Speaker 2: a threat to dollar. And with this war, that threat
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Speaker 2: is becoming real rights. The de Dollarisation is really interesting phenomena,
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, that has come up one last thing
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Speaker 2: to touch upon from a tech perspective, Euro is also
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Speaker 2: the fact that this war, like you said, has other
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Speaker 2: It is also being fought in the media and social media. Right?
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Speaker 2: And suddenly you see that you know, Russia seems to
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Speaker 2: be losing definitely the war on
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Speaker 2: I mean, what happened during the last three months when
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Speaker 2: out of sheer fact that it was more than Ukraine more.
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Speaker 2: It has taken er my ensure in last couple of
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Speaker 2: a scale
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Speaker 2: politics of who won why and all the things. But
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Speaker 2: total population of the whole of Scandinavian countries. Right? So
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Speaker 2: if you remember in our election, take a piece or
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Speaker 2: BJP has a fantastic reach. That was world.
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Speaker 2: Second thing that stood out in the election was also
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Speaker 2: the fact that Election Commissioner the had initially told because
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Speaker 2: pandemic classes in other way was coming. It was still
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Speaker 1: on. They had said
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Speaker 2: that the campaigning will only happen door to door or
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Speaker 2: virtually so. No big events, okay? And it was very interesting.
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Speaker 2: It actually put BJP in the pole position. They were
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Speaker 2: so happy with this door to door and virtual thing
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Speaker 2: because from 2019 again, they had created something called Seva.
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Speaker 2: structure for state through to give you a basic idea.
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Speaker 2: If you look at up, they divided into zones. Each
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Speaker 2: zone had 11 social media personnel. Okay, then zones had
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Speaker 2: districts within it again. I don't know why they chose
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Speaker 2: the number 11. Each district had 11 other social media
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Speaker 2: people
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Speaker 2: divided at a booth level, and each this whole hierarchy
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Speaker 2: to the leadership The feedback loop was so beautifully created
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Speaker 2: that they were literally very happy when they heard that
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Speaker 2: Election Commissioner is saying they don't do any big campaigns.
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Speaker 2: The second important thing, I will try to just, you know,
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Speaker 2: other than the fact be talked in the election tech
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Speaker 2: You need a narrator. But then the dissemination happens through technology.
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Speaker 2: Very interesting thing I saw in some analysis is that
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Speaker 2: Narendra Modi, everyone knows, is kind of the second most
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Speaker 2: and he follows so many people and they are absolutely
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Speaker 2: ground level worker. You know, Lay person's from our perspective.
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Speaker 2: He follows them so one and trying to say as
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Speaker 2: staffer at a booth level, did something great
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Speaker 2: and that guy is the Twitter handle, Modi will follow it,
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Speaker 2: and that gives the impetus to the person to do
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Speaker 2: even better that you know what I am followed by.
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Speaker 2: In contrast, if you see let's Rahul Gandhi. He also
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Speaker 2: common people. So so this kind of creates a very
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Speaker 1: So I have to see this interview with Prashant Kishore
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Speaker 1: recently and just a complete current, a point to this
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Speaker 1: absolute supremacy of the visually which which exists. But the
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Speaker 1: question really comes always about who's the other parties
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Speaker 1: and with op winning Punjab and everybody was saying in Sapporo,
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Speaker 1: so even give some very interesting numbers, he said.
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Speaker 1: To win India, you need 25 crore votes. Totally Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's that's what the majority needs, he said. The art
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Speaker 1: the Congress despite their whatever poor performance on oil 1
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Speaker 1: So it visionary, it just kind of the number this
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Speaker 1: completely open my eyes to the fact that
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Speaker 1: I mean whatever they must be doing, right or Rome.
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Speaker 1: But the argument that of his viable can goes away.
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Speaker 1: When you look at the data
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Speaker 1: it's interesting. So
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Speaker 1: what we really saying is that while technology on elections
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Speaker 1: has had this massive
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Speaker 1: negative connotations right with in the past the Cambridge Analytica
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Speaker 1: and all of the other staff,
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Speaker 1: what we're really saying is that there is a way
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Speaker 1: I don't if it's good or bad. But there is
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Speaker 1: a way for politicians and for leadership to utilise technology
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Speaker 1: to infuse. And that really is what Malaysia you're saying
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Speaker 1: and Samina knighting. The fact that you're saying that the
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Speaker 1: compass still gets like
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Speaker 1: 10 crore roads
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Speaker 1: tells you that there is some amount of communication, maybe
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Speaker 1: not as powerful, which is being used by the two
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Speaker 1: teams not as powerful as the BJP people. There seems
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Speaker 1: to have some amount of resonance, the the the fact
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Speaker 1: that we're talking about technology in a in a very
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Speaker 1: different light.
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Speaker 1: It's
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Speaker 1: are especially what we covered in the Election Deck episode right,
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Speaker 1: which is technology to make sure that there is more
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Speaker 1: people who can vermin vote technology to ensure that
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Speaker 1: are there is transparency in the voting structure. Technology to
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Speaker 1: it just makes the process of election and the the
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Speaker 1: fact that we are a large democracy. We have sue
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Speaker 1: some hope. Maybe that hey, it's not all about capturing
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Speaker 1: and the government ramrodding
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Speaker 2: absolutely shit'll. I'll say that we have had in past
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Speaker 2: few elections. I can say
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Speaker 2: there is almost zero booth capturing and the whole Evie em,
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Speaker 2: you know, India's You be talked reported in election tech.
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Speaker 2: India has adopted it 100%. It's amazing, and it has
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Speaker 2: really transformed our elections, to be honest, just just to complete.
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Speaker 2: I mean, as you said it of the fact is,
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Speaker 2: technology is there for everyone, and it is being used
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Speaker 2: in the weather, for good or for bad. It is
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Speaker 2: being used very well by most of the party's. The
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Speaker 2: thing to look here is that
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Speaker 2: with this pandemic, you know, and how the election started,
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Speaker 2: there was a post correction that happened later on whereby
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Speaker 2: campaigns were allowed, but initially it was just don't to
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Speaker 2: door and birchwood think about it. If Narendra Modi or
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Speaker 2: or yoga or the opposition party have to do a
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Speaker 2: virtual rally and you have to reach the masses
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Speaker 2: till the time you have this song button
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Speaker 2: in place. How will you come to know? So BJP
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Speaker 2: was so beautifully positioned that they had 150 s B patients.
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Speaker 2: They have thousands of what Sam groups. So you start
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Speaker 2: with and you have the Twitter handle. And then there
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Speaker 2: is the dedicated Narendra Modi page. So once I say
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Speaker 2: that Narendra Modi is going live
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Speaker 2: or yoga, Gitana is going live for a virtual rally.
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Speaker 2: The dissemination to reach the last village that the last
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Speaker 2: person in the smallest village happened instantaneously and the virtual
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Speaker 2: Larry's were
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Speaker 1: what adds to that? Let me add on the counter
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Speaker 1: site if you remember in the women and take episode
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Speaker 1: we had a talk about this with are saying that
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Speaker 1: whether we like it or not, it is geo which
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Speaker 1: has enabled a lot of strikes because for you to
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Speaker 1: get virtually to the last mile, you really need people
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Speaker 1: to kind of get into to have phones and to
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Speaker 1: have access to technology. And I think Geos provided that
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Speaker 1: last mile connect so
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Speaker 1: it kind of all comes together. I think, as a
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Speaker 1: country where now
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Speaker 1: supreme a country which is to be a tech service provider.
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Speaker 1: I think we're now coming into our own to say Hey,
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Speaker 1: how to be leverage
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Speaker 1: for very large initiatives and that I think should bring
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Speaker 1: us to the end of this section of hours on
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Speaker 1: the world. That was in the last three months while
00:18:00
Speaker 1: we were doing a podcast.
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Speaker 1: And maybe he can jump into the next section and
00:18:05
Speaker 1: Samir and we want to take the lead into the
00:18:06
Speaker 1: next section, which is
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Speaker 1: think having one of our more popular episodes was unboxing
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Speaker 1: Trends 2020 picked
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Speaker 1: the metal ores and the blocks in grid to
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Speaker 1: and attain a lot has happened in that with varying degrees.
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Speaker 1: In fact, one of the things that I came across
00:18:34
Speaker 1: was that not crypto, but it's kind of
00:18:39
Speaker 1: late coming, Guzan. The N F T
00:18:42
Speaker 1: is kind of kind of doing really well. Ukraine has
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Speaker 1: actually used the selling, you know, their war images as
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Speaker 1: energies
00:18:51
Speaker 1: for literally like war bonds. You can have started the
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Speaker 1: technology but doing something, but obviously somebody's taken it to
00:18:57
Speaker 1: another level and you know they're getting pictures of rulings
00:19:01
Speaker 1: and and whatever. You know, our Zelinsky doing something and
00:19:04
Speaker 1: they're selling that as war bonds.
00:19:05
Speaker 1: The other thing that's happening is that in game purchase
00:19:08
Speaker 1: is so epic games and fortnight are using in game
00:19:11
Speaker 1: purchases
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Speaker 1: and donating that to the new cream cause. And
00:19:17
Speaker 1: apparently, if you just go by the numbers, they are
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Speaker 1: the
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Speaker 1: single largest donor to this cause, um, can it By
00:19:23
Speaker 1: his process, they have donated, like some 50 60 million
00:19:27
Speaker 1: and Ben V last looks and their hopes to reach
00:19:29
Speaker 1: 100 million. So I think there is, um,
00:19:31
Speaker 1: crazy stuff going on there. But I think we should
00:19:34
Speaker 1: without further a do let you kind of immerse yourself
00:19:37
Speaker 1: into your favourite topic. The Met Her worst. And so
00:19:42
Speaker 1: what is what is happening there? Shit. And what have
00:19:47
Speaker 1: you found in your travels
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Speaker 1: into the old Donald A. Was. But before I go
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Speaker 1: that no, I was sound work in the video military
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Speaker 1: musical with despite a random thing for me to watch,
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Speaker 1: but I was watching it and to take her in
00:20:03
Speaker 1: its teething forward, eh?
00:20:05
Speaker 1: There are some technologies which never bored to grassroots, right?
00:20:08
Speaker 1: Angela an illness. There is familiarity
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Speaker 1: when
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Speaker 1: a mass programme like radio Mitchie talks about
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Speaker 1: STDs.
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Speaker 1: That's when you know that this movement is
00:20:24
Speaker 1: going to pick up steam very rapidly
00:20:27
Speaker 1: and sale at the end of it or become the next.
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Speaker 1: Because I think from the time people started talking about
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Speaker 1: a nifty is to the to the Massif IQ Asian
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Speaker 1: if I Polydor n f t I thing that has
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Speaker 1: been very, very rapid and the same parallel am going
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Speaker 1: to draw into the medals. I know that do both.
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Speaker 1: Oh, and a lot of others don't don't support my
00:20:51
Speaker 1: belief as the medical a big trend that we should
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Speaker 1: all look at.
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Speaker 1: But But But let me tell you that you work
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Speaker 1: has recently in war of its police predicted
00:21:03
Speaker 1: that the Met Abbas economy represented $800 billion of eternity
00:21:08
Speaker 1: by 2024.
00:21:10
Speaker 1: Think about it. We're in 2022. The medals conversation didn't
00:21:14
Speaker 1: start to too far back rights and soon, Aria certainly
00:21:18
Speaker 1: talking about an 800 billion opportunity. And now I'm gonna
00:21:21
Speaker 1: start sounding like a news reader. Okay, we're gonna give
00:21:24
Speaker 1: around this
00:21:28
Speaker 1: so it's interesting that NVIDIA, for example, is not calling
00:21:32
Speaker 1: it the medals. It's falling in the on levers, and
00:21:34
Speaker 1: what they've done is they've already set up a subscription service, right,
00:21:38
Speaker 1: and they're allowing creators, designers, collaborators to come on, so
00:21:42
Speaker 1: shared online simulation and their brands already jam packed bag
00:21:46
Speaker 1: in Anna sitting on that developing stuff. So that's something
00:21:50
Speaker 1: you are already seeing consolidation within this space, especially with
00:21:56
Speaker 1: the gaming companies, right? So there's lots of moulders and
00:21:58
Speaker 1: acquisitions happening with gaming companies because of this whole meta bows.
00:22:04
Speaker 1: A man city and Sony are partnering to build the
00:22:07
Speaker 1: virtual stadia. I mean, think about it. So you're now seeing,
00:22:11
Speaker 1: I think, collaborations, which we wouldn't have seen typically coming
00:22:15
Speaker 1: alive because of the med avers. Softbank is investing $150
00:22:20
Speaker 1: million in Earth.
00:22:22
Speaker 1: Korean meta was platform. The K pops in the K
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Speaker 1: pieces continued to rule. I was reading up 4.3 million
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Speaker 1: property transaction on the central line. I mean and up
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Speaker 1: was you. You have your favourite
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Speaker 1: Machen delivery man is on the Met. Ever said that?
00:22:43
Speaker 1: He said what I mean when, except national and the
00:22:47
Speaker 1: last point I want to make before right handles the
00:22:49
Speaker 1: wrap up on the medal because I can go on
00:22:51
Speaker 1: and on and on. Is that Think about it. There's
00:22:54
Speaker 1: a whole new farmers which is gonna happen on the
00:22:56
Speaker 1: site and brands like Nike, Gucci, Louis be our really beginning.
00:23:02
Speaker 1: So you are seeing staff which is moving so rapidly
00:23:06
Speaker 1: and I don't know whether you're on the sceptics. End
00:23:09
Speaker 1: of the spectrum. Oh, you're on the believers. End of
00:23:13
Speaker 1: the spectrum price. Depending on which end of the spectrum
00:23:16
Speaker 1: you are on, they will decide whether the Met ours
00:23:20
Speaker 1: is advancing too fast
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Speaker 1: or two
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Speaker 1: the Believe a listeners moved
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Speaker 1: I I am going to definitely create one. Mata was
00:23:31
Speaker 1: avatar for myself and two, I think we should definitely
00:23:35
Speaker 1: launch eh nifty for three TV. If it is so
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Speaker 1: big guiding the illiterate share of the 800 billion pie
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Speaker 1: will not do any arm towards.
00:23:46
Speaker 2: So firstly, the together predicted as one of the trains. Right?
00:23:52
Speaker 2: So we are all believers in it. Don't worry, we
00:23:55
Speaker 2: may a Euro polio leg, but the fact is, we're
00:23:57
Speaker 2: all believers and just wanted to give you an inside
00:24:00
Speaker 2: because you talk about shares all the while services looking
00:24:03
Speaker 2: at Yahoo Finance, you know, And in the global markets
00:24:07
Speaker 2: Yahoo Finance, you know,
00:24:08
Speaker 2: predicted some stock picks and I was surprised to see
00:24:11
Speaker 2: the or four which are a lot, Colin. Pure meta words,
00:24:15
Speaker 2: but actually Web three down to cos someone is coin days. Okay,
00:24:18
Speaker 2: so it's top stock picks. That is a crypto exchange.
00:24:21
Speaker 2: Then you have a talent Ear Technologies volunteer is into
00:24:25
Speaker 2: multiple things. Always three Dato trip. The but one which
00:24:31
Speaker 2: you will love Tour met Our stuff is unity software.
00:24:35
Speaker 2: It is one of the topics
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Speaker 1: absolute
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Speaker 2: So unity software was there and obviously then there were
00:24:40
Speaker 2: some cloud cos like loud they're still kind of three
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Speaker 2: Row two to your point the shit'll weather eurosceptic for
00:24:45
Speaker 2: a believer
00:24:46
Speaker 1: I think this
00:24:47
Speaker 2: trend is here to stay
00:24:49
Speaker 2: and it is growing big time
00:24:52
Speaker 1: I will
00:24:52
Speaker 2: tied into you know, my favourite with three roto because
00:24:56
Speaker 2: I really meta words and ft all this kind of
00:24:59
Speaker 2: ties into
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Speaker 1: bigger
00:25:01
Speaker 2: train which is the three daughter which says you know
00:25:03
Speaker 2: with three wrote of climate Lee says that will become
00:25:06
Speaker 2: semantic will become special and special Well, essentially is met awards, right?
00:25:11
Speaker 2: It will be leased centralised to that effect. I think
00:25:14
Speaker 2: there is a lot of work already happening on something
00:25:17
Speaker 2: called Resource Description Framework. So So to decentralise from go
00:25:22
Speaker 2: from web to 0, we have to ensure a dissemination
00:25:28
Speaker 2: of data across centralised platforms to become decentralise. And that
00:25:33
Speaker 2: can only happen
00:25:34
Speaker 2: if you have a common, very defined framework because everyone
00:25:38
Speaker 2: has a data in their own way. And if you remember,
00:25:40
Speaker 2: we talked about it. The data is the new oil, right?
00:25:44
Speaker 2: So the companies who own data became big. But now
00:25:48
Speaker 2: there is work happening on resource description framework, which
00:25:53
Speaker 2: creates a common framework to exchange the data. So I
00:25:57
Speaker 2: I believe that a step in the right direction whereby
00:25:59
Speaker 2: the centralised data sources can start sharing data and slowly
00:26:05
Speaker 2: kind of move towards the decent lies that's
00:26:08
Speaker 1: in sidelined speaking stock. Should I get out of all
00:26:10
Speaker 1: the centralised companies have Favourite was bought a bill. You
00:26:21
Speaker 1: do you must invest in the local Kiran aka do
00:26:24
Speaker 1: condoms because that is the best cash business. You know
00:26:28
Speaker 1: you'd sell and you take home money. That is the
00:26:31
Speaker 1: best business. According to me and my classic example is
00:26:34
Speaker 1: the 50 college bar, above all
00:26:37
Speaker 1: is now got a big line. He's got two people
00:26:40
Speaker 1: for Bando, versed also, and the price of his baraka
00:26:43
Speaker 1: is going up every day, and it seems to be
00:26:45
Speaker 1: uni elastic demand. People are buying more and more as
00:26:48
Speaker 1: his prices going.
00:26:49
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, it is the tramping to
00:26:51
Speaker 1: Singapore that if this was a video of it actually
00:26:56
Speaker 1: shared a picture that I took a like more. She softening.
00:27:03
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's going to in FDs.
00:27:06
Speaker 2: Probably we missed one true one we missed. But but,
00:27:12
Speaker 2: you know, met Evers and not a world trends which
00:27:15
Speaker 2: are here to say a stay, I think a little bit.
00:27:17
Speaker 2: We can also talk about a right and I'll tell
00:27:21
Speaker 2: you has been a trained for a long time, and
00:27:24
Speaker 2: the kind of picked it up with some specifics which
00:27:27
Speaker 2: was around
00:27:27
Speaker 2: know, poured or low poor. You know how we create
00:27:30
Speaker 2: lack sponsor, which doesn't require developers and porters. And to
00:27:33
Speaker 2: be honest, it was very interesting that we were talking
00:27:36
Speaker 2: to some government officials and if if someone from the
00:27:39
Speaker 2: government is talking about, You know, a local platform. It
00:27:43
Speaker 2: means that the trend has caught. Um And I mean,
00:27:45
Speaker 2: they were talking of how you know they were looking
00:27:48
Speaker 2: at some platforms of creation of that which would be loco.
00:27:51
Speaker 2: It's not No. So that was another one. I see
00:27:54
Speaker 2: the last trend. I think that was a little bit
00:27:58
Speaker 2: on Future of work. Spoke about it to Sheetal. Now
00:28:01
Speaker 2: that endemic, we see kind of beginning of the end
00:28:05
Speaker 2: beauty thing. Things will change
00:28:08
Speaker 1: nationally. Billy will never go back.
00:28:10
Speaker 1: The baby warrant 20
00:28:12
Speaker 1: Think and believe that the 19% in our service
00:28:16
Speaker 1: I think there are many reasons for it, Right? The
00:28:19
Speaker 1: economics of not having offices is very, very high for organisations,
00:28:24
Speaker 1: so they will never go back to full time everybody
00:28:26
Speaker 1: into the organisation. I think they were all set king
00:28:30
Speaker 1: for three days a week. Kind of a work
00:28:33
Speaker 1: scenario at the workplace in three days off, I think
00:28:36
Speaker 1: individuals have tasted blood right. Imagine if you'd intact a
00:28:39
Speaker 1: travel for three hours every diversity like Mumbai. Oh, bangle. Oh,
00:28:42
Speaker 1: how much more productive is that so
00:28:47
Speaker 1: yes, I know there is enough and more murmurs about
00:28:50
Speaker 1: productivity being blue when you don't put together. It's a
00:28:53
Speaker 1: trap arising.
00:28:54
Speaker 1: People are not going to go back to that space
00:28:56
Speaker 1: There is already becoming. You know, when I was when
00:29:00
Speaker 1: I started word hat and we were called the Gig
00:29:03
Speaker 1: economy and now you have newer, nominal caters for the
00:29:07
Speaker 1: same right. But
00:29:09
Speaker 1: I think the trend of work from home party
00:29:13
Speaker 1: and will be fighting half and half is where it's
00:29:16
Speaker 1: going to settle.
00:29:17
Speaker 1: There will be some who will go back to the traditional.
00:29:20
Speaker 1: I know of a client of ours who has mandated
00:29:24
Speaker 1: everybody back. I think they're also paying overhead so it
00:29:27
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it comes back. But a lot of
00:29:30
Speaker 1: the organisations have led off their offices. I started my
00:29:32
Speaker 1: career in research where we used our flexi lists where
00:29:35
Speaker 1: we never had fixed lists because we used to be
00:29:38
Speaker 1: in the field
00:29:39
Speaker 1: and we used to come into office only to put
00:29:41
Speaker 1: in our report something I mean, I am talking about
00:29:44
Speaker 1: 15 years ago, 20 years of the world was flexi dusts.
00:29:49
Speaker 1: You never had a expressed picked up your laptop and
00:29:51
Speaker 1: started working on whatever dispose availability I think that's what's
00:29:55
Speaker 1: going to become the norm.
00:29:57
Speaker 2: I got kind of update my, you know, I used
00:30:00
Speaker 2: to work with Master card. So I keep getting updates
00:30:02
Speaker 2: from MasterCard and lo and behold there, opening office in
00:30:06
Speaker 2: Lisbon portable. So it just reminded me that one wheeler
00:30:10
Speaker 2: of the future of work a country, if I had
00:30:13
Speaker 2: to choose would be probably portable who kind, um, started
00:30:17
Speaker 2: investing in, actually looking at these appearances simplified taxation for
00:30:24
Speaker 2: foreign workers to to to kind of promote people to
00:30:27
Speaker 2: come and stay in a beautiful climate. Great country. I
00:30:30
Speaker 2: think that that trend would have rubbed off because Master
00:30:32
Speaker 2: Card is actually opening a new office and portable this.
00:30:35
Speaker 2: It was like a complete surprise.
00:30:38
Speaker 1: So one of my favourite pastimes is not to look
00:30:40
Speaker 1: through The economist and all of the strings of these
00:30:43
Speaker 1: villages come up for sale. You know, like for €1
00:30:46
Speaker 1: 100 urine. I always wonder that, you know, maybe this
00:30:49
Speaker 1: is it. This is the thing to do now exist
00:30:51
Speaker 1: by of the village. My worry is that denial I
00:30:56
Speaker 1: might have to request alone must to provide. We will.
00:30:59
Speaker 1: Some startling satellites for the Internet. You know my sense
00:31:03
Speaker 1: is that, anyway, some in India so used to paying
00:31:06
Speaker 1: so little for data that anything that is going to
00:31:10
Speaker 1: hit a really hard no, but the W is
00:31:16
Speaker 1: I think it's seven. You look it. So
00:31:19
Speaker 1: a trainer who used to come home and the better
00:31:21
Speaker 1: part for the beginning of the pandemic. He was really
00:31:23
Speaker 1: in a soup because
00:31:25
Speaker 1: everything is physical, right, and nobody wanted him to come home.
00:31:28
Speaker 1: And so we started this thing with Zuma can. It's
00:31:32
Speaker 1: it's It's like a painful. But now, with time, he
00:31:35
Speaker 1: has evolved the nears figured out.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Google Meatwad. It's better than soon because
00:31:40
Speaker 1: you can do whatever.
00:31:42
Speaker 1: Now what he is able to do is it when
00:31:44
Speaker 1: his clients travel, Also, he takes sessions. You know he
00:31:47
Speaker 1: is getting referrals from us of supposing I have a
00:31:50
Speaker 1: cousin who's in the UK and my time matches with
00:31:52
Speaker 1: his free time, he is able to fit it in.
00:31:55
Speaker 1: So
00:31:55
Speaker 1: I think people are also evolving and seen so there
00:31:58
Speaker 1: is benefiting physical of Mr I think
00:32:02
Speaker 1: people are evolving to this world that you can co
00:32:04
Speaker 1: exist in both spaces and you are absolutely right that
00:32:07
Speaker 1: I don't think they will go back to anyone way
00:32:10
Speaker 1: of working. I think
00:32:11
Speaker 1: we will continue. And I think as far as to Wilson,
00:32:14
Speaker 1: although I think they will evolve to meet this requirement
00:32:18
Speaker 1: and make it as real and as interactive. And yeah,
00:32:21
Speaker 1: I think hybrid is the way to go and
00:32:23
Speaker 1: notches semillon. I also find that a lot of people
00:32:26
Speaker 1: who will not
00:32:28
Speaker 1: so called tech savvy
00:32:30
Speaker 1: have all loaned to adapt
00:32:32
Speaker 1: all of us
00:32:33
Speaker 1: all young, whoever we've on the and accept technology the
00:32:41
Speaker 1: way it comes in. So I don't think educational institutions
00:32:44
Speaker 1: are you not going to go back to the possible ways?
00:32:47
Speaker 1: I mean, if I could study online in any one
00:32:51
Speaker 1: of the global universities, then why would I want to
00:32:53
Speaker 1: do a local university?
00:32:55
Speaker 1: Right?
00:32:55
Speaker 1: And there's not really that much of a loss of
00:32:58
Speaker 1: house raise a communication because of it. So those are
00:33:01
Speaker 1: things are gonna happen. So semillon Sorry, militia and question.
00:33:05
Speaker 1: I don't think it is just about work. I think
00:33:08
Speaker 1: it's about the way of approaching on lot of things.
00:33:10
Speaker 1: Students are got used to getting educated online differently.
00:33:14
Speaker 1: Housewives have started getting used to working without needs and
00:33:18
Speaker 1: figuring out
00:33:18
Speaker 1: solution ing. I think it's all just about now becoming
00:33:22
Speaker 1: more and more and more hybrid solve and how we
00:33:25
Speaker 1: used take available to us. Just make it better.
00:33:28
Speaker 1: That's what It's crazy because I'll tell you, we we
00:33:32
Speaker 1: were actually. But we have been shifting homes and being
00:33:35
Speaker 1: something for for housing locked and all of that. They
00:33:38
Speaker 1: never thought about it right And everything is happening over
00:33:40
Speaker 1: what's up. Video People there are showing new staff and
00:33:44
Speaker 1: it's happening then you know, elders in other cities, they
00:33:47
Speaker 1: can't
00:33:48
Speaker 1: operate their fire states,
00:33:50
Speaker 1: you know, they can make a call and then the
00:33:52
Speaker 1: show you This is what I can see on my
00:33:54
Speaker 1: screen Serving
00:33:55
Speaker 1: This is a very fantastic, an evolving area and as
00:33:59
Speaker 1: people used to the technology have been taking time. But
00:34:02
Speaker 1: I think that adoption is happening in people are using
00:34:05
Speaker 1: it for the craziest things. And I always remember this
00:34:07
Speaker 1: example of washing machines being used to make policy and
00:34:13
Speaker 1: live boy car bolic so being used to wash buffaloes
00:34:16
Speaker 1: in that the life by soap is the highest selling
00:34:18
Speaker 1: soon
00:34:19
Speaker 1: in the levers port for you
00:34:21
Speaker 1: because it's 256 hours to wash them. Buffalo speaking ahead
00:34:29
Speaker 1: life A.
00:34:39
Speaker 2: So essentially I think I think to your point. Sameera is,
00:34:43
Speaker 2: I think, and they say right? Usually wars have given
00:34:48
Speaker 2: rise to a lot of innovation. Similarly, I think final image,
00:34:53
Speaker 2: which was a huge, huge depression globally on everyone
00:34:57
Speaker 2: it has given rise to a lot of innovations. I
00:34:59
Speaker 1: complete very to
00:35:00
Speaker 2: completely agree. Um, in my friend
00:35:02
Speaker 2: actually incorporated a company in Dubai sitting in Pune
00:35:08
Speaker 2: without all on what's happened. And inter area, um, web
00:35:12
Speaker 2: bombs and everything. You have all kinds of platforms for
00:35:16
Speaker 2: signing stuff digitally.
00:35:18
Speaker 2: So So, yeah, this is the train which will continue.
00:35:21
Speaker 2: I I am sure. I think that brings us to
00:35:24
Speaker 2: kind of the last section. Right. So we talked about
00:35:27
Speaker 2: what happened while we were podcasting. How are we doing
00:35:30
Speaker 2: on the couple of trains that be touched upon? I
00:35:33
Speaker 2: think the last section was purely to kind of reminisce
00:35:37
Speaker 2: what happened and maybe lead
00:35:39
Speaker 2: people in to kind of a behind scenes stuff regarding
00:35:44
Speaker 2: our podcast. So, Sheetal, do you want to start with
00:35:46
Speaker 2: the most controversial aspect of our podcast,
00:35:51
Speaker 1: I would last them. It's something that I still have
00:35:54
Speaker 1: been figured in, Father, just to bring in all of
00:35:57
Speaker 1: you listeners. When we will
00:35:59
Speaker 1: thinking of launching this podcast, we archery had decided to fall.
00:36:03
Speaker 1: It still take is on a woman. And I was
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Speaker 1: And lo and behold, I lost the battle. I think 99%
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Speaker 1: Superb Sabrina, thank you for that. But I still wonder
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Speaker 2: So So while we speak of technology, we speak of,
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00:42:04
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00:42:09
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00:42:14
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00:42:20
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00:42:25
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Speaker 2: I think this kind of brings us to the end
00:43:42
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00:43:46
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00:44:21
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