[00:00:01] A space curated for real stories of people from different walks of life who have sailed
[00:00:20] through uncharted waters and lived to tell their inspiring story. Unbound is a deep dive
[00:00:26] into their journeys to unravel, unearth, uncover various facets of their lives as they remain
[00:00:34] unstoppable and continue to do the unthinkable.
[00:00:41] Yet another episode, yet another unstoppable human, he is fiery, he is a gogetter, he is
[00:00:45] young, he is enthusiastic, he has been an author and now a founder for over half a decade.
[00:00:52] He is all rolled in one. That's Varun Chopra for you, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the show.
[00:01:04] Where do you do this? What else do you have to do? Introduce me.
[00:01:08] Definitely.
[00:01:09] Yeah, tell me a little. Let's start from wherever it starts for you. Like what's been the life
[00:01:16] journey so far? Bits pilani, then engineering, going abroad, coming back, writing book,
[00:01:25] founding an amazing D2C, you know, centered agency. Something that not everybody is doing in this
[00:01:32] country. Great Mamtaa, yeah. Maybe I'll start with, you know, one of the quotations by Naval
[00:01:38] Ravi Kand, which really hit me hard. I mean, you know, he mentions specialization is for insects.
[00:01:45] So doing a lot of things, I mean, comes very naturally to me and that's where the journey
[00:01:52] started. Majorly Bits pilani was as we were discussing backstage also, was the first entry
[00:01:58] into an exposure of there is more to job, there is more to just, you know, studying and
[00:02:04] and like, you know, how you, how you, how you, you know, a crack exams is a different game and
[00:02:11] how you crack life or corporate life or, you know, work is a very different game.
[00:02:17] So I mean, Bits, that is where, you know, I started taking parts in dance, in music,
[00:02:24] in psychology, and all these were so much more interesting than math, science and, you know,
[00:02:31] other aspects of it. And especially when, you know, college is a life which while watching in
[00:02:37] Bollywood movies we have seen, I mean, you just enjoy, have fun. So the studious part of me
[00:02:43] subsided when I entered college and I, it kind of entered with a vibe.
[00:02:47] Yeah.
[00:02:48] Abna, bhot saari cheez hai karne hai rather than going deep into ki kuch crack karna
[00:02:52] because usually exams or like, you know, engineering college is the first milestone
[00:02:58] which you usually
[00:03:03] aur hota bhiye thoda sa, I mean everyone is, you know, on a high in the first year
[00:03:08] but jaisi tori, teer mainin mein bada chalta hai
[00:03:11] ki you are again a middleman or an average guy here because of, you know, so many champions
[00:03:16] of so many industries. Then is where again reality hits hard and you start introspecting
[00:03:22] going dive into what am I meant for, what am I supposed to do.
[00:03:26] To koi pehla padaa baya zindagi mein which kind of pivoted the whole perspective of life
[00:03:35] challenges or aspirations of life.
[00:03:38] Yeah, definitely. I mean as I was mentioning to you also, I lost my father when I was in
[00:03:43] second third year that was the month of January and I was going back to my campus and I was in
[00:03:50] the train and my mom and my dee called ki, you know, my dee was in Germany and my mom was in Delhi
[00:03:57] and she and I got a call ki matlai of ki papa ka accident ho gaya.
[00:04:02] To bada aapa ne call kiya ki yaar aisa, matlaa aisa kuch nahi main jaaroon poon hai
[00:04:06] he was located in Nagpur in our district kyunki state bank mein move kar tera hai
[00:04:12] and that is where I mean the whole I got to know, you know, 24 hours later that he's
[00:04:18] no more and I had to go to that place. Maybe because that was a very rural area
[00:04:24] and in India, rural area do not have so much of medical facilities available on your
[00:04:29] fingertips like here we have. So I mean the whole thing.
[00:04:33] This was a road accident.
[00:04:34] Yeah, this was a road accident and he was alive for three four hours after the accident
[00:04:38] but because there was no hospital and no treatment, he was rushed to Nagpur but I mean
[00:04:43] that happened because he was in a much rural district like the district was Nagpur.
[00:04:48] He was somewhere else in not the main city.
[00:04:51] Yeah, not the main city. So I mean then is where you know when I went back to campus
[00:04:57] a month later, I mean obviously the question started to occur and I mean there's so much
[00:05:03] energy release at those you know emotional period. I started questioning again when I
[00:05:09] went to campus, I had just come to take a job at the end of fourth year but everything started
[00:05:16] you know occurring to me. I started reading Bhagavad Gita's to all kind of to understand
[00:05:23] what happens after life because I was searching for you know what do we do here etc and then
[00:05:30] is where I mean this whole thinking and this whole trajectory of bids was also a beaten path
[00:05:36] but at that moment I thought you never know what kind of surprises come.
[00:05:46] So let's figure out what am I meant for I went deep into myself and that's where I started
[00:05:52] you know finding good answers also that I like to be creative, I like to you know let's say
[00:05:58] build businesses later on when I realized I like to take risks you know very naturally it
[00:06:04] comes to me. If I don't take one then I go you know into unnatural self. So how I mean it's
[00:06:12] interesting that you speak although it happened at the back of a very unfortunate event but
[00:06:19] how did you get someone to start mentoring you? Did you seek out some this whole
[00:06:27] searching journey? Did you seek out someone maybe any counsellor, psychologist or were you
[00:06:32] talking to elders how were you really finding these answers? Sure so as much as I mentioned that I am
[00:06:40] like I might be an extrovert when it comes to you know gathering but I'm also at the same time
[00:06:46] very introvert when it goes about you know finding deep answers. So I relate to a lot of books
[00:06:53] I still read a lot of books you know every now and then and I feel that changes my mind
[00:07:00] faster than you know any conversation that I can have or human influence for that matter.
[00:07:08] So yeah I mean I went into you know all kind of law drama how he was also you know asking this
[00:07:16] questions to Vashishta who was his guru, why are we here for etc and I kept on reading there
[00:07:24] even though I didn't find any answer to what is the meaning of life and it's a good question.
[00:07:28] My life like specifically to my life here yeah but it's a good question to ask you might not need
[00:07:34] to find the answer but it's a good question to ask. So you do believe that pain takes you to many
[00:07:41] spaces? Yeah definitely I mean even risk-taking is a kind of pain seeking in in my own self because
[00:07:49] eventually you know that's how you grow so either you make it yourself because you're calling it
[00:07:54] upon yourself. Yeah yeah I was reading this book by like Eon Musk biography by Isaac Watson
[00:08:02] and I mean if I have to summarize this book he is a fabricator of pain and he he self-fabricates
[00:08:08] pain for himself because he knows you know that if you fabricate it then you know you grow
[00:08:15] faster and it's but it's tough for you to you know in you know basically create pain for
[00:08:22] yourself every now and then yeah because as humans you know we want to laze around we want to yeah
[00:08:29] totally and then and I'm sure I mean then there are questions all around you people are like why
[00:08:35] do you have to do this everything's going so well why do you have to you know create something out
[00:08:41] of nowhere and then take responsibility and push everyone on that path around with you so
[00:08:46] how did it manifest for you like then you said that okay I have to take a bigger challenge in life
[00:08:52] how did it started to unfold? Yeah so it started to unfold in a manner that I when I was reading
[00:08:59] books you know I thought of writing one also and you did yeah and I did I actually wrote on my
[00:09:07] this is also very dramatic Bollywood kind of scene that I wrote on my friend's wall we were
[00:09:12] sitting in a room that I will write this book before this date. Oh wow. Yeah this is the power of
[00:09:19] commitment I feel you know even when you announce it socially a lot of things it's a it's a commitment
[00:09:24] that you give and I don't even listen to that. Yeah, she wrote on the wall that whenever I go to her
[00:09:30] room she says that if I didn't write then half of your letters are gone and I put that date
[00:09:38] I think it was 29th March something and we were sitting in January.
[00:09:52] You're not promoting that. I'm not at all promoting. You may get a lot of flat.
[00:09:58] Definitely but that's a good and a bad a good is like yeah I mean if you find your calling
[00:10:03] you utilize that time if you don't find you might waste it it's better to go to class and you know
[00:10:09] learn something meaningful but I was finding my calling every every six months. Could you could you
[00:10:15] see that this was I don't know I'm just asking this that was this.
[00:10:23] The the signs start coming in and all of that could you could you pick into it
[00:10:28] yeah
[00:10:29] but whatever it is now I am driven and I have to go this way. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure that energy
[00:10:35] as you were asking maybe that was the drastic incident that happened and after that I wanted
[00:10:41] to channelize it in a positive manner. So what makes you unbound Varun what just kind of
[00:10:47] snaps you out of a situation maybe when you're on a downward spiral or you're just too confused
[00:10:53] are there any ways and mechanisms you've created for yourself?
[00:11:02] Are there practical to-dos that you get down to?
[00:11:07] Yeah definitely in the end I feel like you know we are made of hobbies and routines in general
[00:11:12] we have certain algorithms that are running you just need to repolish algorithms.
[00:11:16] We have certain algorithms that are running explain that please.
[00:11:20] For sure I mean I mean we are all you know creature of habit.
[00:11:24] Yeah creature of habits we have certain things in our minds that are you know
[00:11:28] that are popping up because of certain reasons and I mean that's how I have revised my algorithms
[00:11:34] by reading books because that can only you know repurpose your or you know kind of record
[00:11:42] your algorithms in a manner that you know that will change your hobbies then because first
[00:11:48] you change yourself from your mind and then your action starts to change.
[00:11:54] So yeah I mean in general what makes me unbound is for sure our natural inclination towards risk
[00:12:03] which is you know which is something I'm even training myself to be even you know go deep
[00:12:10] into that route that if I am a risk nature risk attractor then I should keep on following it
[00:12:17] even though with age you start you know taking lesser risk because of responsibilities etc but
[00:12:24] I'm training myself to keep my natural self awake and not go with that route of
[00:12:39] keeps me sane like anything because in the court you spend the time with your coach
[00:12:44] and then the match where you have lost everything or track of time and you are just focused on the ball
[00:12:50] or the next point is when you are in the moment I mean every sports I feel you are in the moment
[00:12:55] especially those who require so fast reflexes that you don't have even time to think.
[00:13:08] Interesting so there is a method to your madness that means you have created
[00:13:14] some way some process to keep that unbounding alive in your life right. Some of your favorite authors
[00:13:21] since you read so much and or maybe your favorite book or something that you're reading currently.
[00:13:28] Here also like I saw very contrary video I saw it on YouTube only that you know
[00:13:34] usually with books it's not about the quantity it's about how many times do you read a book and how
[00:13:41] how many times you read like a single book yes and how much do you emulate yourself to become that
[00:13:48] book rather than going on the width there also I read Naval Ravi Kant like the alumnus of Naval
[00:13:55] Ravi Kant six times last year and I also plan to do this because I mean it's rather I would have
[00:14:03] like five to ten books which I keep on reading for next 20-25 years. What yeah because they are classics
[00:14:10] they the the writings that are there will not change with time as that is what I feel and I'm
[00:14:17] rather a classic you know reader then I mean I'll read a lot of like newspaper magazines those
[00:14:24] things are there but you want to apply those books in your life yes I want to apply it to the
[00:14:29] core of what is written in them this was a very contrary opinion but I thought it makes
[00:14:38] the very unpopular very unpopular opinion that yeah
[00:14:42] go to
[00:14:53] but that that author has to be someone idealized really you're really giving me a lot to take in
[00:15:00] because you know I I am a little attention deficit when it comes to book and I always blame or
[00:15:06] shame myself there are two things that I do like
[00:15:12] again I keep going back to them and I never thought it from this perspective it's a really
[00:15:18] refreshing perspective indeed yeah have you seen someone do this in your life I saw it in a video
[00:15:24] only as I mentioned YouTube peh ara tha ki you know these are five seven I mean you get a lot of
[00:15:28] reels no ki these are five things and I really like that person who was making those videos
[00:15:35] so firstly it has the advice which you follow has to come from a person that you idealize so much
[00:15:42] that you know you know ki aar yeh banda jo bolega na I mean so I follow karun ka haa meh follow karun
[00:15:47] so I have those gurus that are virtual I've never met them yeah like Naval Ravi Khan being one
[00:15:52] so matlab and and this guy who was you know I don't remember his name but he was recording
[00:15:57] a video ki rathar you pick creator he's a creator ki yeh paan chhe books hai you these have the
[00:16:03] classic truths of what you need to know a lot of you know real life learnings that it entails
[00:16:10] and just read these five six books again and again so that you become or you
[00:16:14] know squeeze the knowledge out of it quickly change the gaze let's talk about teaser company
[00:16:20] let's talk about your co-founder let's talk about the idea what you're doing what you're creating
[00:16:24] and how is it fulfilling you sure so teaser company came into prominence almost like
[00:16:30] five years back when I came back from Germany and again like started my career as a copywriter
[00:16:37] I went to Bombay I had met the co-operator because you were wanting to write okay but I wanted to
[00:16:42] write for brands this time to see because I mean in early childhood stories of piyush pande's and all
[00:16:48] Airtel ki ad or you know jingalala to all those you know rhymes and memes were in our heads
[00:16:54] because we saw those ads like thousands of times right so I was curious ki kaurn likhta hai
[00:17:00] kaise shoot hoti hai kaise, kyon likhi gayi kao objective tha so I was going into stories but this
[00:17:07] was more purpose and a story I mean you have to solve an objective when you write commercial
[00:17:11] viability your stories have to fulfill that so Bombay I joined minimalist there was an agency
[00:17:18] Sahil I met him this is when you came back from Germany from Germany I met the co-founder
[00:17:23] Sahil in a trip you know in Europe and he mentioned ki aaja agar India aar hai to minimalist join karle
[00:17:30] and I told him about my books o kaya ki tere andar writing ka to hai to hiye so here se
[00:17:34] internship se shuru kia so that is where I entered into ki kya hota hai job mein and you
[00:17:40] know everyone was there 30-40s logi team thi and I started learning about branding
[00:17:45] copywriting brand brief kaise deta hai wo dikte kais hai brand managers copywriter
[00:17:51] dikte kaisi brand managers
[00:17:52] matlab I mean those rooms and you know mature people in the room and I was I mean little at that time
[00:17:59] so so yeah that is where it started I came back to goodgaon due to I thought you know I should be
[00:18:05] around my mother and I shifted job to goodgaon work there for a year so one and a half year only
[00:18:11] where I had experience of working as a employee but I started getting that vibe ki aar mein bhi
[00:18:19] kar sakta ho mitlab baya sa kuch itna difficult ni aur why not take a risk so I went to my boss
[00:18:23] I told ki mirko na kuch karneega man kar raha hai so he ne bolla ki the take that risk if you want
[00:18:29] come back you have a job for three months if you feel the world is cruel so
[00:18:36] because entrepreneurship is risky I mean world is cruel out there whatever you want to sell
[00:18:42] or you know do I mean they will ask ki kya kia hai kya hai kyaon trust kare negotiation
[00:18:47] you have so many challenges to solve for and then you are the you know the you have to manage everything
[00:18:52] in the early days so that is where I joined V work meko tha ki aar V work India mein aaya tha
[00:18:59] aur meko tha aar agar business dhurnana to I need to be around people yeah connected and network
[00:19:03] yeah so I joined V work ki aar yeh co-working hai hiya hiya poy toh kaam de dega toh I joined it
[00:19:09] and 2008 nahi toh you go yeh aapne ek desk le liya aapne ek desk le liya
[00:19:13] aur ka hain ki company register nahi kari hai, lakkin kya dhimak mein to tha ki kya karna hai
[00:19:18] aur was that also a clean state. Dhimak mein ki marketing haa copyrighting aati hai
[00:19:21] copyrighting ka koi project uthaalunga really you just went in like that
[00:19:28] and I was dating my girlfriend who is my wife at that time and she was I am Calcutta graduate
[00:19:33] in earning more than two lakhs a month or something at that time also
[00:19:37] and I was at a 10 grand's internship so you can see the that you know diversity
[00:19:44] but she accepted it ki aar kar raho toh kar raho matlab aush main
[00:19:48] so I joined V work ki project milenge 3-4 mainin thode thode aaya koi 20000 ka aaya
[00:19:53] koi 30000 ka aaya. You started just doing the copyrighting work
[00:19:57] yeah okay social media calendars ho gaye
[00:20:01] website ki writing ho ghi brand campaigns ho ghi any kind of writing
[00:20:05] so mili ko thaaya ria toh kain jaani raha 3-4 mainin baat
[00:20:08] sohde thode paise aaya hai thode thode nahi aaya
[00:20:11] and there were other people also doing similar things so matlab main a keela nahi tha
[00:20:15] thode aur ases mind wale thailo
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[00:20:42] yeh insight ki humko, matlab D2C toh shaz ki suna hi nahi tha right
[00:20:47] of course your Amveys were perhaps the only first movers in that space aur uske baat toh kisi
[00:20:53] nahi mamaarth boat yeh sab hai jo first movers the D2C main
[00:20:59] jo 8-10 saal pehle Amveys still is a very offline first business
[00:21:04] D2C is matlab jo issne website se selling karna shuro ki Amveys still bohot affiliate
[00:21:09] marketing mein chala hai ki usne mothers aur inko pakad ke boorah channel bana hai
[00:21:16] bunch of brands that had started 8-9 years back but even they didn't know ki D2C se kuch ho gaya nahi
[00:21:21] D2C is just a sales channel jese retail hai shops hai amazon hai marketplace
[00:21:27] apni websites se selling karo but yeah sure
[00:21:30] yeah door to door matlab literally going door to door how yakult also i think the way their whole
[00:21:36] strategy was D2C initially when they started out selling pro biotics and educating the customer
[00:21:42] and then doing a POS there only right for sure direct to consumer in in us terms or in
[00:21:50] in the western markets rather it started like 10 15 years back almost around 2000-2005
[00:21:58] when the western markets exploded where people whenever they used to do product innovation or
[00:22:03] they used to launch brands online utilize mediums like facebook online became a big instrument for
[00:22:09] D2C to happen okay yeah for sure and and then covid happened 2019 i mean we were six eight months
[00:22:17] into the journey but that was you know rather blessing in disguise that you know a lot of people
[00:22:24] stuck to their houses you know and and majorly they will shop online now because they have no other
[00:22:30] means so offline ka sara market size online a gaya online brands khol neko aur koi option
[00:22:36] hi nahi raha in detail mein so then is where we got you know Shah ji kalshi a lot of brands
[00:22:41] shaji was a desi ghee kalshi was curries home cooking started becoming a big market chairs
[00:22:49] so lot of markets shifted we got you know luckily like six seven clients in in our first year after
[00:22:55] she was on board it to home bhaah peh fir seek nahi lagi but we were always learners ki ar
[00:23:01] am ne shop if i seek ha shop if i kaisa banan hai ad kaisa banani hai wo thoda aata performance
[00:23:06] marketing kaisa karthi hai aur brand ko strategy kaisa device kari email marketing kya hota hai
[00:23:12] how can we increase revenue for our brands because both those brands were also very early stage
[00:23:16] ha mare jasih founders were 40 year old 45 year old 35 year old depending but still they were also
[00:23:22] in their early stages then i mean while starting business i got this advice ki business shoruna
[00:23:28] at least 5-10 saal ki vision ke saath kanna don't go into it ki 1 saal mein 2 saal mein
[00:23:34] acha to mein jab day zero pe tha to me ko tha jo man that was the foundation again
[00:23:49] where do you see yourself right now i mean we are enjoying it's again i know if you love what you
[00:23:55] do then you don't i don't tire myself i work like 16 hours 17 hours also in a day even saturday sunday
[00:24:02] and it's a work life integration which has happened ki main monday ko agar wife ke saath spend
[00:24:07] karna oga ya kheel ne jaan oga i'll do that obviously i have foundations and i have teams
[00:24:12] and responsibilities but still i merge myself into ki abhi ek business conversation hai
[00:24:18] fir ek family meeting hai fir again ek investor pech hai fir achaanak se kuch company mein
[00:24:23] fath gaya so those transitions are now coming seamlessly jisko time laga 2-3 saal lage to train
[00:24:28] my mind ki ares switch kya hota hai friday to friday hota hai saturday to saturday hota hai
[00:24:33] abhi se corporate life mein ki friday sham ko 6 bach kain ya yaa yaa i mean ghari deekte
[00:24:37] ab ab weekend chero gaya weekend hai which weekend are you talking about either it's
[00:24:42] everyday weekend or it's everyday weekend so that is easy also to handle you don't have
[00:24:48] to switch your mask on a saturday sunday actually you can be in that gear right because
[00:24:55] abka ek discipline to bana hi hua hai routine to bana hi hua hai to aap saturday ko saturday
[00:25:00] mat treat karo sunday ko sunday mat treat karo monday ko bhi monday mat treat karo don't be
[00:25:04] frightened with it and don't get those blues and what's with this new thing that you are now
[00:25:10] launching homified and what all are we listening what is it what whatever you got in yourself
[00:25:15] into yeah i mean the next challenge as i mentioned i after scaling the agency i mean we were again
[00:25:22] at the at the how many clients for you now like currently if you can go on record and yeah
[00:25:28] sure teaser currently has almost 70 odd brands wow with us we are so in day in and day out
[00:25:34] you're working with 70 different yes clients categories pitches i mean our teams are working
[00:25:40] now shivan me we are maybe you know setting the right members in place zero to one journey was
[00:25:45] bringing clients finding the niche finding the validation now it is finding the team members
[00:25:51] who can you know take the organization forward it's a lot of founders that are not able to
[00:25:57] make themselves come out of the operations and the business but now we have to take that leap
[00:26:01] and it's also a challenge to solve ki ab kaun lead karega team ko who will be these people
[00:26:07] i mean the people i have associated with us for over three four years they started as a 20 grand
[00:26:12] enhanced salary to now one lakh plus and they are 26 27 year olds yeah so very proud of you know even
[00:26:20] even they themselves have seen kiaar teen salme mein 6 guna salary pe aadu aadu and touchwood we
[00:26:26] are 60 percent female and we are very proud of it with respect to i mean you know how they
[00:26:32] control how they you know manage things diligently i mean not to say men uh but we have like a lot of
[00:26:40] good team members yeah so now teaser company the challenges we need to bring a CEO we need to bring
[00:26:45] a senior people who can lead this organization whereas me shivan we invested almost 14 15 odd
[00:26:52] lakhs in last six to eight months uh you know in the first six to eight months of starting
[00:26:58] homey fight so homey fired i mean came as a vision to just simplify living i mean if we have to squeeze
[00:27:04] the juice out of what we are doing is very how we can make we wanted to be in electronic space
[00:27:10] for some reason or the other because i mean again shivam strategize ki aris mena margins
[00:27:16] hota hai ish mein depth hai time hai we know boat and noise and what not have scaled to you
[00:27:21] know so much crores in revenues so and we spoke to a founder of goki champ alreja the other day he told
[00:27:28] ki ar china jao ek bana visit laga kya humne usame fundraise almost chal raha abhi close nima so we went
[00:27:34] to china uh we saw ki ar china to matla hum se itna dhassa lagi wo actually feel wa when we went
[00:27:41] to their factories and when we saw i mean so many cool products and we saw us ke bhi brands
[00:27:46] yahi se import kar aar hai so it's it's actually the manufacturing hub of but isn't the landscape
[00:27:52] changing for what we've been seeing how the narrative is building on you know in Vietnam yeah and
[00:27:59] Vietnam and taiwan and also india because taking the center stage as far as manufacturing is
[00:28:06] concerned isn't it uh very changing yeah for sure it's changing i mean the thought has have
[00:28:11] come in but the execution will take take it home it takes make it india and make it india these are
[00:28:17] still i mean great ideologies i believe and it will happen uh but it is just you know it's pushing
[00:28:25] the society as of now but still i mean what they did in last 20 years will still take
[00:28:31] india sometime to be there i mean it's great that we are pushing fast we have the demographics
[00:28:36] we have everything right but what they have built i mean they are running an engine for last 20 years
[00:28:41] whereas we are start establishing one yeah so i mean we went there we saw the opportunity there
[00:28:47] is a market fitment have you designed these products yourself like how are you getting this done
[00:28:52] yeah so i mean we went to china and in india we had validated that you know
[00:28:58] indian users are on the phone five to six hours average as of now per day chinese users are 15 to
[00:29:05] 16 hours on their phone every day wow that's the difference that's crazy yeah imagine 15 to 16 hours
[00:29:12] because i mean they they were ahead of the technology curve you know further away from us but
[00:29:19] but like yeah we we relied on one uh maybe it's it could be a cultural thing that might happen
[00:29:25] in india also we feel indian societies are similar to chinese more eastern societies in many ways yeah
[00:29:32] so we thought that maybe in india also four five years down the line people might start using
[00:29:36] phone devices too much and and we realized i mean power banks is a is a good market to enter okay
[00:29:43] so what sort of power banks are these like these are i mean if i'm carrying one also
[00:29:48] if i have to show these this is a very mini super chart ladies and gentlemen always stay ready
[00:29:53] with your brand you never know where you will get an opportunity to promote it yeah for sure you see
[00:29:59] aman gupta is his watch and for sure so i should have something i keep on like whenever any people
[00:30:10] need the battery die and the nations that's my brand plugin you know even i go to conferences
[00:30:23] interesting so just tell us but yeah talking about the product i mean in india we figured out
[00:30:27] that people still need cables i mean this is a wireless power bank you keep your phone on it
[00:30:32] it will charge it so it's a convenience also to the people but still it has a lot of cables for
[00:30:38] different devices uh and yeah this is a mini super charge which is about to be launched
[00:30:44] and i mean yeah we have different my god we've got a curtain razor here wow thanks Varun
[00:30:49] so yeah i mean these are some chargers that are fast charging i mean we launched a fast charger also
[00:30:55] with charges at 35 watts i mean typical chargers are 15 watt it means it will charge you at a
[00:31:00] speed of let's say in an hour you will go from 5% to 40% in your battery but we launched a charger
[00:31:06] which takes you from 5 to 94% in an hour so almost like so you've done your mathematics
[00:31:11] coming to some fears and challenges which have and you know glory to bhol a chhe baat
[00:31:17] kisi bhi chis ki success to bhi a chhi lagtiya but jaha pe hum rukh jaate hai jo cheez hai
[00:31:22] sapsi zada pulls or stops lagati hai i want to talk about that uh ade any identified patterns
[00:31:29] that you have seen in yourself kiya yeh bohag bhaiye tari ke se aata hai na i have to i have to train
[00:31:34] myself for that something that you had to break maybe you're biased towards your own self or world
[00:31:40] around yeah definitely i mean i'm these days i'm working on for sure about humility i mean
[00:31:47] with respect to after you grow certain age i mean your head can get high and it has happened
[00:31:52] with me also sometimes i i get high ki ari kya but still you have to train yourself to be humble
[00:31:59] again uh and yeah that is something i'm training myself ki aar matlab kya hi hai up middle of
[00:32:05] then these ego things and and you know showing off and yeh sari cheez ho mein kuch mazaan hi aata in the
[00:32:10] end it guils you only ki aare kya kar diya if you are self conscious about it yeah so i'm very self
[00:32:17] conscious learning humility in general i want to play tennis at a national level that is something
[00:32:22] i want to do it along a business i mean even i don't know if you know nikhil kamat nithin kamat
[00:32:29] these guys are iron man athletes and so they kind of inspire ki aar the badi organization banana
[00:32:36] i mean you can wear multiple hats so husbands be hand then they are athletes also then they are
[00:32:41] business owners also so these things and kind of you know puts value into each other also
[00:32:46] hodl mo help kar rata when you know keep yourself motivated in some other form other than your
[00:32:51] business as well so i'm trying to give more time into just one sport okay now kyunki main ek value
[00:32:58] deki ki when you have to go deep if you have to do something you know good in it yeah that's
[00:33:03] that's the mantra of the today's episode i think go deep create value right there there always is a
[00:33:09] bigger chance for you to dig something rather than you know playing too wide to play long
[00:33:16] term game with long term people yeah is something the mantra which i you know go by but challenges
[00:33:22] wise yes i mean businesses in business you have to you know change yourself every six months i mean
[00:33:28] we had to take pivoting teaser company every six to eight months and by pivoting means ki
[00:33:34] hamara role bhi badal jaayega our organization ka structure bhi badal jaayega and the way
[00:33:39] of thinking bhi badal jaayega and then up apni vision pe kese how do you keep an eye on that
[00:33:45] it's still it still has to align with the vision with all those changes it still has to
[00:33:50] align to that is it yeah so i mean if your values are so again vision definitely i mean there is
[00:33:56] there for homified it's it's you know simplified living which is which is you know is something
[00:34:02] will justify once we go 10 years down the line ki ha what we were doing is all we're trying to
[00:34:06] simplify life by selling power banks calco smart luggage calco i mean bunch of product
[00:34:11] with teaser company we are so in love with advertising and you know creating remarkable ads that converts
[00:34:17] that's our mission so whosoever we pick our should be people who want to create new innovative
[00:34:22] content onko mazha na chahiye content banane mein onko accountability oni chi ki yaar is content
[00:34:28] se sales bhi lekiyaan hi ki content in general i have no value content that bring sales have
[00:34:33] certain value to it so yeh vision hai long term meh short term meh these challenges of
[00:34:38] how you ree have evaluate yourself as per market market calco ai aagya video banane lagya sara
[00:34:44] kya karengi you have to quickly evolve this is our absolute tail end of the show we are in our
[00:34:49] rapid reflex round my personal favorite kind of a rapid fire hamper to nahi hai but we are waiting
[00:34:59] for that to come from these are coming for sure yeah no jokes apart so this this round i would
[00:35:05] just throw a wall your questions on you okay you can answer maybe in a liner or maximum a word
[00:35:12] try to make it a word or maybe a liner then okay so are you set for this varun chopra yes excited
[00:35:19] all right life to you is beautiful love to you is exploration okay if not d2c finish the sentence
[00:35:32] for me if no tennis professional oh wow your wife's name Ankita okay how long have you known her
[00:35:43] seven and a half years all right food to you is last last oh my god that's for the first time
[00:35:52] yeah i see it like that really okay then in that case travel to you is
[00:35:59] finding yourself okay while not getting lost definitely okay then family to you is
[00:36:10] peace favorite book almanac of naval ravi khan you've really promoted that one movie which is like
[00:36:20] your forever go to forever go to i really like watching amir khan films be it dangle or laghan
[00:36:28] or those aspects because i mean i feel those movies have captured a lot of emotions ups and downs
[00:36:35] yeah so i'm a i'm a bollywood buff even though lately so i'm not able to watch too many movies
[00:36:41] but whenever amir khan comes in like i'm a fan of him super place people or events what draw
[00:36:50] draws you the most people never have you ever chemical drugs okay i'm not getting into the details
[00:37:03] of it one thing that is a must do for barun first thing in the morning drink two liters of water
[00:37:12] and one thing which is a must thing before you head off to sleep writing my diary all right
[00:37:19] just one quote or any inspiring lines which is actually your life motto or captures your life
[00:37:29] yes one quotation which i really am fond of is that you know humans are monkeys with a plan
[00:37:39] life not so seriously
[00:37:46] with that you have truly come unbound barun i am so glad that you were so unabashed it's
[00:37:53] so authentic so from the heart and no filter yeah no filter no filter awesome absolutely awesome to
[00:38:00] have you to host you to get to have this honor to be learning so much from someone who's so young
[00:38:06] but so wise thank you so much thank you for the team for everyone here in the room thank you so much
[00:38:14] we are really delighted and we are really looking forward to this episode soon so let's stay unbounded
[00:38:21] together can we say that again together yeah let's stay unbounded together thank you so much
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