Jenna Oakley | 15-Year-Old Girl Does the Unthinkable to Her Stepmother

Jenna Oakley | 15-Year-Old Girl Does the Unthinkable to Her Stepmother

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True Crime Personality and Psychology

True Crime Psychology and Personality is a podcast that profiles criminal personalities, discusses personality disorders, and examines real life events from a scientifically informed perspective.


Want more mental health content? Check out our other Podcasts: 

Mental Health // Demystified with Dr. Tracey Marks 

Healthy // Toxic

Cluster B: A Look At Narcissism, Antisocial, Borderline, and Histrionic Disorders

Here, Now, Together with Rou Reynolds


Links for Dr. Grande

Dr. Grande on YouTube


Produced by Ars Longa Media

Learn more at arslonga.media.

Produced by: Christopher Breitigan and Erin McCue

Executive Producer: Patrick C. Beeman, MD


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The information presented in this podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not professional advice. 

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[00:00:53] education and supervision, and I'm a licensed professional counselor of mental health. Dr.

[00:00:58] Todd Grande, that's my YouTube channel. Today's question is, can I analyze the case of

[00:01:04] Jenna Oakley? First, I'll look at the background of this case, move to the timeline of the crime

[00:01:10] than all from my analysis. Jenna Oakley was born in 2001 and raised in the state of Indiana

[00:01:16] or father Philip and her mother Christie separated and Philip moved to Danville, Kentucky.

[00:01:23] Jenna and her younger brother David would visit Philip in Kentucky every other weekend.

[00:01:28] When Jenna was 11 or 12 years old, she was targeted by a teenager named Kenneth Nye.

[00:01:35] He was looking for romance. Kenneth was about five years older than Jenna. For some reason,

[00:01:41] no one reported this relationship to the police, or if they did, no action was taken.

[00:01:47] The conditions in the home where Jenna lived were unpleasant and she did not want to live there

[00:01:51] anymore. In April of 2016, she asked her father Philip if she could move to Kentucky and live with him.

[00:02:00] He agreed and Jenna moved into a basement bedroom in the Oakley family house.

[00:02:05] Not long after this, her brother David made the move as well. By this point, Philip was remarried.

[00:02:12] His wife was named Ronda Oakley. Jenna continued her relationship with Kenneth Nye.

[00:02:18] At this point, Jenna was 15 and Kenneth was 20.

[00:02:22] Philip and Ronda were not happy about the situation and took away Jenna's electronic devices.

[00:02:28] They told her that she could not continue to seek Kenneth. Jenna let her father and stepmother

[00:02:33] to believe that she would comply with their wishes.

[00:02:37] Philip spoke to Kenneth and threatened to call the police on him if he refused to end the relationship

[00:02:43] with Jenna. Kenneth said that he was sorry and promised that he would no longer communicate with her.

[00:02:50] At this point, Kenneth was in the army and stationed in Colorado, which made it seem as though

[00:02:55] he had moved on with his wife. In reality, the relationship between Kenneth and Jenna never ended.

[00:03:03] Jenna continued to communicate with Kenneth using the electronic device of a friend.

[00:03:09] Now moving to the timeline of the crime. On August 31, 2016, Kenneth Nye was discharged from the army

[00:03:16] after deliberately failing a physical test. Before this, he had filed a petition to be a conscientious

[00:03:22] objector but he was impatient and decided to take a faster route to be kicked out of the army.

[00:03:28] He was dropped off at an airport with a plane ticket to Indiana. He changed the destination

[00:03:35] to Lexington, Kentucky, which is about 35 miles away from Danville. Kenneth arrived in Lexington

[00:03:42] during the afternoon and took a taxi to Danville. He gave the taxi driver the address of the

[00:03:48] Oakley family house but said that he wanted to surprise the family. Therefore, he exited the

[00:03:53] taxi at the end of the street and walked toward the house. He spent the night in the house with

[00:03:59] a Jenna but no other family member knew that he was there. On September 1, 2016, Philip and

[00:04:05] Rhonda went to work and David went to school. Jenna did not go to school. She spent the day with

[00:04:11] Kenneth in the house. At some point she retrieved a knife and kept it in her basement bedroom.

[00:04:19] Rhonda came home from work at 3pm which was earlier than usual. She walked down the basement steps

[00:04:26] as Kenneth hid in Jenna's closet. A verbal altercation started because Rhonda was upset

[00:04:31] with Jenna missing school. Jenna started choking Rhonda but was unable to overpower her.

[00:04:38] Kenneth emerged from the closet and started choking Rhonda from behind.

[00:04:42] After Rhonda was rendered unconscious, Jenna used the knife she had retrieved earlier

[00:04:47] and stabbed Rhonda in the throat multiple times. Rhonda did not survive.

[00:04:53] Kenneth appeared to be somewhat disturbed by the homicidal behavior. He vomited in Jenna's trash can.

[00:05:00] Young lovers fled in Rhonda's white 2014 Honda Civic. At 4pm, 13-year-old David was dropped

[00:05:08] off by the bus and entered the Oakley family house. As he was loading the dishwasher,

[00:05:13] he heard the family dogs barking in the basement. When he investigated, he found his stepmother

[00:05:19] Rhonda on the floor. David went to a neighbor's residence and emergency services were contacted.

[00:05:25] When the police arrived, they found 52-year-old Rhonda Oakley dead on the basement floor.

[00:05:31] They noticed Jenna was missing, along with Rhonda's Honda Civic. They were able to eliminate

[00:05:36] Philip as a potential suspect because he was at work all day. When the police learned about

[00:05:41] Jenna's relationship with Kenneth and I, he became the obvious suspect. Investigators didn't know

[00:05:48] if Kenneth had kidnapped Jenna or if she had left with him on her own volition. They started

[00:05:54] tracking his phone. It appeared as though Kenneth was moving west across the country. Unfortunately,

[00:06:00] the phone was not consistently pinging towers, so initially the police could not obtain enough

[00:06:05] information to find Kenneth. At one point, the couple had been spotted at a Walmart store where they

[00:06:11] purchased a phone charger. In the store surveillance video, Jenna did not appear to be in distress.

[00:06:16] She was walking through the store with Kenneth as if nothing was out of the ordinary.

[00:06:21] On September 3, 2016, two days after Rhonda's murder, Kenneth's phone pinging into Comcari, New Mexico,

[00:06:28] which is about 1200 miles west of Danville, Kentucky. A police officer in New Mexico spotted

[00:06:34] Rhonda's Honda Civic in the parking lot of a Motel 6. In the vehicle, he found Kenneth and Jenna.

[00:06:42] When Jenna saw the officer's flashlight, she started the engine, but then when she saw the

[00:06:47] officer's firearm, she decided to turn it off. Kenneth and Jenna were arrested without incident,

[00:06:53] but destination for Kenneth was jail, but Jenna was taken to a juvenile detention facility due to her age.

[00:07:00] On September 5, Kenneth used a blanket on a hook in his jail cell to facilitate a hanging.

[00:07:07] He was found non-responsive and placed on life support at a hospital. In his jail cell,

[00:07:13] the authorities found a note. It read quote,

[00:07:17] I, Kenneth, I, admit to killing Rhonda Oakley. Jenna had nothing to do with it. She was not in the house

[00:07:24] when I killed Rhonda. I take blame for everything, I am truly sorry. On September 12,

[00:07:32] Jenna was extradited to Kentucky. The police interviewed her without telling her about how Kenneth

[00:07:37] was preparing to check out permanently. She readily confessed to her involvement in the murder.

[00:07:43] After providing the details of how she and Kenneth carried out the homicide,

[00:07:48] Jenna explained how she threw the knife away when she was traveling with Kenneth.

[00:07:53] Jenna was charged as an adult with complicity to commit murder and theft by unlawful taking

[00:07:59] over $10,000. In mid-October, Kenneth was the recipient of both good news and bad news.

[00:08:07] The good news, all the charges against him were to be dismissed. The bad news, the reason for this

[00:08:13] was his death. During a pretrial hearing, Jenna was informed about the demise of Kenneth and

[00:08:19] screamed in the courtroom. In addition to the destruction of her fantasy of a never-ending romance,

[00:08:25] she probably realized that if she had not confessed, she could have placed all the blame on Kenneth.

[00:08:32] Despite the confession and other evidence against Jenna, the state of Kentucky made a move

[00:08:37] that surprised many. They offered Jenna a plea deal. On April 1, 2019, Jenna pleaded guilty to

[00:08:45] manslaughter in the first degree and theft by unlawful taking over $10,000. On March 27, 2019,

[00:08:53] she was sentenced to 10 years for the manslaughter charge and five years for the theft charge.

[00:08:59] The sentences were to run consecutively, so it was a 15-year sentence. Jenna could be released as

[00:09:04] early as 2027 based on good behavior and will definitely be released no later than 2031.

[00:09:11] Now moving to my analysis, while many people are satisfied with how this case ended for Kenneth

[00:09:16] Nye, there has been a good deal of disagreement about the sentence that Jenna Oakley received.

[00:09:22] Some people, including Jenna's father Philip, believe that her sentence was too lenient.

[00:09:28] How is she able to murder someone and yet only receive 15 years in prison?

[00:09:33] Other people believe the sentence was too harsh. The age difference between the young lovers meant

[00:09:38] that Kenneth was committing a crime and in a position of power, maybe he manipulated Jenna

[00:09:44] into killing Rhonda. Let's take a look at the evidence both foreign against the idea that Jenna's

[00:09:49] sentence was too lenient, starting with the factors that support this theory. When Jenna moved

[00:09:55] to her father's house in Kentucky, she acknowledged his directive that the relationship with Kenneth

[00:10:01] needed to end. Instead of complying, she deceived him and circumvented the measures that he took

[00:10:07] to prevent her from contacting Kenneth. The police found a journal written by Jenna. She wrote about

[00:10:12] stabbing her entire family to death and even documented step-by-step instructions. She wrote,

[00:10:19] quote, need to kill Philip first, 4am to 5am, two knives prepared, with me killed David last,

[00:10:30] kill Rhonda second, 6am to 8am. Kill David in his room, ask Philip to go downstairs real quick,

[00:10:38] then as we are going down, slice his neck in the front, walk into Rhonda's bedroom and stab her,

[00:10:45] stab David in his bed. At another point, Jenna expressed gratitude about the idea that her

[00:10:52] entire family would be murdered when she wrote, quote, they'll be dead soon. Thankfully,

[00:10:59] Jenna confessed to being the one who stabbed her stepmother to death. She had retrieved the knife

[00:11:03] in advance, which points to premeditation. After the murder, Jenna fled with Kenneth in Rhonda's

[00:11:10] car and disposed of the knife. She clearly knew what she did was wrong. Now moving to the factors that

[00:11:17] contradict the theory that Jenna's sentence was too lenient, Jenna did well in school and did not

[00:11:22] have a criminal record. She may have been manipulated by Kenneth. He clearly wanted to be with her

[00:11:28] desperately, which was a strong motive to commit the murder. In his final note, Kenneth exonerated Jenna

[00:11:35] and took full responsibility for the homicide. According to Jenna's defense, she had been moved

[00:11:41] back and forth between her parents. When Jenna was three years old, social services became involved

[00:11:46] in her life. A neighbor noticed that Jenna and her siblings were left alone for long periods of

[00:11:52] time. It was garbage scattered everywhere and the home was full of feces. You're in vomit,

[00:11:59] rats, roaches, and fleas. Jenna was covered in flea bites and miserable. Moldy dishes were in the

[00:12:06] sink and medications were within the reach of children. Jenna's mother worked at a jail and

[00:12:12] allegedly bailed out a criminal who came to live with the family. He ended up stealing from them.

[00:12:18] Stability was elusive to Jenna. For example, she never completed an entire school year in any one

[00:12:25] school district. When Jenna lived with her father, it appeared as though she had more stability,

[00:12:31] but her basement bedroom was referred to by her defense as moldy. When considering the evidence,

[00:12:37] do I believe that Jenna's sentence was too lenient? Yes, Jenna not only murdered her stepmother,

[00:12:43] but planned to murder her father and brother. I think a sentence of 30 years would have been

[00:12:48] reasonable under the circumstances, but the state was in a tough position as far as taking this case

[00:12:53] to a jury. But do I think happen in this case? This is just a theory, my opinion.

[00:12:59] Jenna was raised in a chaotic environment and was not protected from Kenneth. They started a

[00:13:04] relationship and believed they were in love. Jenna wrote about marrying Kenneth someday and insisted

[00:13:11] the relationship was eternal. Both Jenna and Kenneth were immature, soft-centered,

[00:13:17] hedonistic, impulsive, irresponsible, sadistic, and had a lack of empathy. They were focused on

[00:13:23] immediate gratification with no consideration of the future. Everything was about them. No one

[00:13:30] else mattered. A couple could have easily conducted a murder-free escape from Kentucky,

[00:13:35] but that wasn't good enough for Jenna. She wanted to kill before leaving because Rhonda had

[00:13:40] interfered with the romance. To Jenna, other human beings were simply objects. Her stepmother

[00:13:47] Rhonda was an obstacle, not a person with rights. Jenna murdered without remorse and without

[00:13:53] a second thought to protect a toxic relationship. She then went on her magical journey with Kenneth,

[00:13:59] believing they would have a fairy tale romance. Kenneth also had a warped view of the relationship.

[00:14:05] He believed they were destined to be together. In his final note, he lied to protect Jenna.

[00:14:11] He probably thought of this as a grand romantic gesture, a heartwarming demonstration of his love

[00:14:18] that Jenna could finally contemplate for the rest of her life. Even though Jenna's guilt was clear,

[00:14:23] the state of Kentucky was concerned about the age difference between Kenneth and Jenna.

[00:14:28] They worried that a jury might believe Jenna was manipulated into committing the homicide.

[00:14:33] They offered Jenna a plea bargain, which involved a short sentence considering the crime,

[00:14:38] but at least it guaranteed a conviction. I think that the state of Kentucky had a vowed point,

[00:14:43] especially given Jenna's difficult upbringing and how she was victimized by Kenneth.

[00:14:48] It's hard to imagine her both as a victim and as a killer, but these descriptions can be true

[00:14:55] simultaneously. I'm moving to my final thoughts. Jenna not only killed her stepmother,

[00:15:01] she devastated her father. He told the media, quote, I hate what she did. I don't necessarily hate

[00:15:08] my daughter. I want to be able to forgive my daughter, but I just don't know how. I haven't figured

[00:15:13] that out yet. Unquote it would appear as though he never did figure it out on another occasion.

[00:15:19] Philip said quote, I can tell you I hate my daughter. Unquote other family members of Ronda were

[00:15:26] also understandably displeased. Jenna wanted to live in a world where her family did not exist.

[00:15:32] She will have to settle for a world where she does not exist, to her family.

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