The Edges and Sledges Cricket Podcast discusses the conclusion of IPL 2024, highlighting the performance of teams and players. They also engage in a lighthearted discussion to create the 'Bakwaskar 11' - a comical selection of the worst-performing players in the tournament. The conversation covers the selection of players for a cricket team, the performance of individual players, and the potential future of certain players and coaches. It also delves into the fantasy league results and upcoming cricket events.
[00:00:01] Hello and welcome to this week's episode of The Edges and Sledges Cricket Podcast.
[00:00:14] We have a full house today.
[00:00:16] I'm your host Ashwin, joined by Varun in Singapore, DJ in London as the IPL 2024 has come to
[00:00:22] a conclusion and the Kolkata Nightwriters have been crowned pretty well deserving
[00:00:26] champions.
[00:00:27] Varun, let me come to you and start just for an overall reaction after what I don't
[00:00:32] know how many days it is like 75.
[00:00:33] It feels like it gets longer every year.
[00:00:35] So many days of IPL cricket and we're six days away from a World Cup, but how are you
[00:00:41] feeling at the culmination of the tournament?
[00:00:43] Yeah, I mean, now that you mention it, I was thinking March 22nd, I think it started and
[00:00:48] it just felt like forever.
[00:00:51] I think we've all taken holidays in between.
[00:00:53] We've come back.
[00:00:54] The IPL has still been going on and it is great.
[00:00:58] It does feel long, but I mean it's the best part of my year so I wouldn't create
[00:01:02] it for anything.
[00:01:03] Yeah, congrats to KKR.
[00:01:04] I think the team that dominated the league stage, unfortunately as Indian fans were not
[00:01:10] used to them winning, but great that they ended up on the winning side as well.
[00:01:15] Yeah, and we'll talk a lot about it and if this is your first year listening to the
[00:01:20] Edgerton Sledges podcast after an IPL, first off, thank you for being a new listener.
[00:01:24] If you've done this before, you know we'd like to have some fun with it at the
[00:01:27] end.
[00:01:28] So stay tuned for probably the second half of the show and we'll name our team
[00:01:31] of the tournament.
[00:01:32] If you will, our 11th of the tournament, but it'll be with a little bit of a twist
[00:01:35] because everybody else has already done their 11th of the tournament.
[00:01:39] DJ, let me ask you, coming into kind of the finals, none of us...
[00:01:44] So before March 22nd, Varun and I talked about this a little bit last week,
[00:01:49] before March 22nd we all predicted playoff teams.
[00:01:51] We didn't actually try to predict winners which was probably wise.
[00:01:54] Not a single one of us had KKR in our top four.
[00:01:58] I think the general feeling was Narayan and Russell are getting a little bit older.
[00:02:03] We'd all thought Stark would underperform and then we were all validated for most of
[00:02:07] the season until of course he came good.
[00:02:09] I mean, has this team overperformed or is it just one of those teams that
[00:02:15] didn't get their sort of the credit they deserve when you looked at their team on paper?
[00:02:20] Well, it's one of the vagaries of the IPL, right?
[00:02:22] Like if you managed to predict all four teams in the playoffs,
[00:02:26] then there's something that's not going right with the tournament because
[00:02:29] the beauty of D20 cricket is how unpredictable it is.
[00:02:32] And yes, none of us had KKR in the top four.
[00:02:37] We did think Russell was past his prime.
[00:02:39] We did think Narayan was past their prime.
[00:02:41] And what tournaments those guys had, especially Sunil Narayan,
[00:02:45] I mean like fantastic kind of MVP performance from that guy.
[00:02:49] Russell, you could see how emotional he was by the end of it.
[00:02:51] He was like crying and it was like, okay,
[00:02:55] what? You could see them putting them.
[00:02:58] It was his first title with KKR, I just realized later.
[00:03:02] Because he played for Delhi till like 2015, 2016.
[00:03:07] I think so.
[00:03:11] Wow. Do you know even Pat Cummins played for Delhi?
[00:03:18] He had a Dike in shirt at 1.0 when I saw one picture.
[00:03:21] Of course, he has a year to captain Delhi.
[00:03:23] So we are the feeder Academy that continues to feed the champion teams.
[00:03:27] But now coming back to the point, I mean, Mitchell Stark,
[00:03:31] that was unbelievable.
[00:03:32] I mean, he did nothing for the entire tournament before turning up in the playoffs
[00:03:36] and bowling probably the two balls of the tournament.
[00:03:40] I mean, the one that he bowled in the final will come to it.
[00:03:42] But what a time to pull that out of your locker, man.
[00:03:45] Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
[00:03:49] Yeah, absolutely phenomenal.
[00:03:50] I mean, if you think about it at the end of the day,
[00:03:53] Mitchell Stark got two player of the match awards in the KKR's last two games,
[00:03:58] right? Including the final.
[00:04:00] Sunil Narayan ended up player of the series, I think.
[00:04:03] And so just a lot of positives.
[00:04:05] But Varun, let's run through the week that happened.
[00:04:08] You got a lot of questions including some of our listeners
[00:04:10] right in about this format of the qualifier,
[00:04:14] then the eliminator, then the second qualifier and the final, right?
[00:04:17] And the idea just being obviously qualifier one is players, teams ranked 1v2
[00:04:23] and they're the team that loses still has one more shot, right?
[00:04:27] We ended up the week with four games.
[00:04:29] I was trying to summarize it.
[00:04:30] KKR beat Hyderabad twice, both times by eight wickets,
[00:04:35] both times chasing a total down with more than seven overs to spare.
[00:04:39] And then Rajasthan beat RCB, Rajasthan was a high ranked team.
[00:04:43] S.R.H. beat Rajasthan, S.R.H. was a higher ranked team.
[00:04:46] And so basically we finished the IPL, the way the points table finished.
[00:04:50] That doesn't happen that often, does it?
[00:04:53] Yeah, it doesn't because you've got CSK and Mumbai Indians who are like play of kings
[00:04:58] and they always manage to find a way to kind of turn that around.
[00:05:02] But yeah, talking about the format, I think, yes, I think it's a great format.
[00:05:07] Like you reward the best performing team
[00:05:10] and you could see even at the end once we had three out of the four teams finalized,
[00:05:15] everyone was still fighting for that top two spot.
[00:05:17] Like it was an RR thing and then S.R.H. found a way back, the rain impacted the games.
[00:05:23] So there is always something to fight for till that last game because of this format.
[00:05:28] It rewards the top two teams.
[00:05:30] And honestly, like you can have a bad day in the knockout, right?
[00:05:35] Who knows that better than us?
[00:05:36] So if you get a chance to go straight to the final and a second shot,
[00:05:41] if you have a bad day, I love the format.
[00:05:44] When you said who knows that better than us, I was like,
[00:05:46] is the us in question Delhi fans or India fans?
[00:05:48] But the fact that it's both is bad.
[00:05:50] I mean, Delhi hasn't made enough playoffs unfortunately.
[00:05:53] Yeah, but Delhi was the one that got knocked out in the 2009 game,
[00:05:59] which was a knockout without the playoff format.
[00:06:02] So the Daredevil's got done by a single innings by Adam Gilchrist, right?
[00:06:06] And then Delhi top to table under Shreyas Ayrskap.
[00:06:11] And lost to the playoffs there too, right?
[00:06:13] So, yeah.
[00:06:14] Right, DJ, we're going to spend most of our time on the final,
[00:06:17] but I want to do a quick run out of the matches that led up there.
[00:06:19] Right.
[00:06:19] So the first qualifier has been played kick yard.
[00:06:22] Like I said, this was the Mitchell Stark show, right?
[00:06:24] To sit here and say Travis head, second ball of the qualifier gets out 0 for 1.
[00:06:31] Then Nithish Reddy, then Chava as a month.
[00:06:34] I mean, Rautra party actually, as Varun likes to say, did come to the party
[00:06:39] and made a lovely half century.
[00:06:42] But when he sat on the stairs, because I think it's too tight to climb up all those stairs at the
[00:06:47] Namu Stadium, just stand out on the bottom of the stairs.
[00:06:51] So now we know.
[00:06:53] I mean, yeah, but the playbook was sort of written at this point, right?
[00:06:55] Aydropad ended up making 159 and then the year, both the years made half centuries
[00:07:02] in a phenomenal chase.
[00:07:03] This was the first, I'm probably missing an important knock,
[00:07:06] but this is the first time I felt like Shreyas was trying to stamp his authority.
[00:07:10] Now you can argue he walked in at 67 for two in a pretty small chase.
[00:07:14] So it was fine, but at 67 for two and six overs chasing 160, they could have taken 18
[00:07:19] overs and they got it done in 13.
[00:07:22] Was that the captain trying to say he's here and just because he hasn't needed to do
[00:07:27] that much doesn't mean he wasn't capable of it?
[00:07:30] Yeah, I mean, he was making a statement, I think, because the first part of the
[00:07:35] tournament, remember Phil Salt left, but he dominated some of the batting as well.
[00:07:42] Salt.
[00:07:46] We might be having some technical issues, but can you still hear me?
[00:07:50] All right, DJ is back.
[00:07:50] There it is.
[00:07:52] I was just saying that Salt and Narayan did most of the batting for the first
[00:07:55] part of the tournament, but he didn't have to do much.
[00:07:57] But when the time came, he finished it off with I think a 6-4, 6-6, right?
[00:08:02] But that's not a bad way to get a 50 boost some fantasy points for me
[00:08:06] and take your time into the final, which is important, right?
[00:08:09] Because you don't have to play an extra match on Friday, which is two days before the Sunday
[00:08:15] final. And in a tournament where you've got two months, cruel and shadow, you'll travel, etc.
[00:08:21] That just gives you a break to just take it in a little bit.
[00:08:24] So the importance of not only finishing top two, but winning that first qualifier is
[00:08:29] immense, right?
[00:08:30] Because you just put your feet up for the rest of the week until Sunday.
[00:08:33] Yeah, I think Well said, it was a fairly one-sided qualifier.
[00:08:37] And I want to come back to this, Varan.
[00:08:39] We'll come back to it at the end.
[00:08:40] But I could have opened by saying this was maybe the most boring IPL final in the
[00:08:44] history of the tournament.
[00:08:46] And that's very disappointing after what was a decent season.
[00:08:48] But there's also a lot of people saying the 500 plus running games and stuff was
[00:08:52] not actually that great a season.
[00:08:53] We'll come back to that.
[00:08:54] Varan, let's talk about the Eliminator.
[00:08:56] A heartbreak for everybody who is a coldly fan.
[00:08:59] But in the grand scheme of this season, probably a fair result.
[00:09:02] So RCB made 172.
[00:09:04] Coldy looked like he was going to look good.
[00:09:06] He got 30 odd runs, I think 33 and then just fell short in lots of 20s and 30s.
[00:09:12] And we've seen this play out with RCB so many times.
[00:09:15] And then Jeswa looked good.
[00:09:17] Rianne Parag looked good.
[00:09:19] And then at the end it got closer than you would think it should have been.
[00:09:22] But Hetmeier and Rovman Powell got them over the line.
[00:09:26] I mean, the fair result for RR to win this one.
[00:09:29] Full credit by the way to Avesh Khan, phenomenal spell.
[00:09:31] He looked absolutely on fire, picked up three great wickets.
[00:09:34] But yeah, the right result.
[00:09:36] Yeah, I think so.
[00:09:37] I think two quick comments.
[00:09:39] One is RCB had all the momentum and I really thought they were going to do it.
[00:09:44] Not win the trophy, but I thought they were going to make the final.
[00:09:47] Because just the run they had that self-belief, they came into the playoffs with less
[00:09:52] than 1% chance of making it.
[00:09:54] They had everything going.
[00:09:56] People were finding form at the right time.
[00:09:57] I think I do blame Maxwell a lot for this, that was a ridiculous first ball duck that he got.
[00:10:05] Do you want to hear his stats?
[00:10:07] Do you want me to jump ahead and you want to hear his stats for the season?
[00:10:10] Yeah please.
[00:10:11] Wait, let me take a guess.
[00:10:13] His average is probably five.
[00:10:15] DJ, do you have a guess without looking?
[00:10:19] Nine and a half.
[00:10:21] Five point seven.
[00:10:23] Five point seven eight.
[00:10:27] At the end of an entire season, nine matches, nine innings, 52 runs.
[00:10:33] 52 runs.
[00:10:35] I mean, Shreya's outscored him in one match.
[00:10:37] I mean somebody guys outscored.
[00:10:39] Anyway, sorry about it.
[00:10:40] Yeah, but I blame Maxwell man.
[00:10:41] Like I think that sucked the entire momentum out of there.
[00:10:47] And then RR man, the team who's totally opposite, who didn't have any momentum
[00:10:52] and showed why.
[00:10:53] Like they just botched up that chase.
[00:10:55] They won it in the last over I think.
[00:10:58] And RR man.
[00:11:01] Yeah, I just don't get it man.
[00:11:03] They're a good looking team.
[00:11:05] Yes, they lost Butler but I still think they had enough to go further than they did.
[00:11:13] You just saw was finding some form.
[00:11:14] Samson has been good but again something about this guy,
[00:11:17] he just doesn't do it in the big matches.
[00:11:20] And it was just overall an ugly sort of a game
[00:11:24] because you were watching this and as Koli fans, you're like,
[00:11:27] come on, come on.
[00:11:28] This is possible.
[00:11:29] And then I think Cam Greenbolder disaster of an over.
[00:11:32] So all round I would say pretty poor cricket from both sides.
[00:11:37] Almost felt like they didn't deserve to be in the playoffs.
[00:11:39] But remember that RR had that magnificent run.
[00:11:42] So yes, in hindsight, you could say the better team made it through.
[00:11:46] Yeah, it's always tough because as much as RCP did have the momentum,
[00:11:50] they also it's not easy to win six games in a row.
[00:11:53] It's definitely not easy to win seven on the seventh is in a knockout scenario.
[00:11:57] So you understand it and you feel for them.
[00:12:00] But another not great match.
[00:12:02] And then that took us to,
[00:12:03] DJ, you have anything to add before we go to chat?
[00:12:05] I have a question about the RCP.
[00:12:06] Did they over celebrate after just making the playoffs?
[00:12:09] Because there was a school of thought with felt that they and I mean,
[00:12:12] obviously people were pleased that they got into the playoffs.
[00:12:15] But do you think a lot of the emotion had been like focused on getting into the playoffs?
[00:12:21] There wasn't much left to go.
[00:12:22] So there's not much left in the tank.
[00:12:25] So my answer is no, I don't think so.
[00:12:27] I think we mentioned that they were less than 1% probability by most measures.
[00:12:32] Many websites were rounding down and it was saying 0%.
[00:12:34] They can't make it and they made it.
[00:12:36] So I'm off the belief that you got to celebrate every milestone
[00:12:40] as you get there every win.
[00:12:41] Qualifying etc. is worth it.
[00:12:43] I think if they had qualified and then still kept their head down and said,
[00:12:46] no, but the job isn't done.
[00:12:47] It would have been a very different type of energy.
[00:12:49] Now obviously it didn't work for them,
[00:12:51] but I don't think that was a driver.
[00:12:53] And I don't think you guys picked up.
[00:12:54] Maybe you guys did the episode last week before the news broke
[00:12:58] about the Dhoni handshake drama.
[00:13:00] Did you guys follow all of that?
[00:13:01] We talked about it briefly.
[00:13:04] That's I don't know.
[00:13:05] I don't know what to make of that.
[00:13:06] It's a bit of a difference point of view.
[00:13:07] I think was that he did wait.
[00:13:09] And while RCB was celebrating, he said,
[00:13:11] tell them I'm going.
[00:13:12] And so he just, he just fled.
[00:13:14] But I don't know.
[00:13:15] I saw another video of it or image where basically the
[00:13:20] two Chennai batsmen hadn't even made their way back to where Dhoni was standing.
[00:13:26] And so it felt like it hadn't been that long.
[00:13:29] But yeah, he still shook hands with all the other players.
[00:13:32] But yes, when the next day of videos showed up the final
[00:13:36] where they beat Gujarat and Dhoni was celebrating,
[00:13:39] but made it a point to go there.
[00:13:41] I mean, honestly, it's only because it's Dhoni that would do this.
[00:13:44] This drama.
[00:13:44] Otherwise nobody cared.
[00:13:46] And to your earlier question about celebrating,
[00:13:48] I mean, I think Koli celebrates like that for like the eighth or ninth week
[00:13:52] even in our first innings test match.
[00:13:54] So I don't think it was over there.
[00:13:57] I think that's well said and fair.
[00:13:59] And from there then, two matches and I'm not went to Chepak.
[00:14:02] Hajar Bhatt played against Rajasthan.
[00:14:04] DJ, was this a sign of things to come
[00:14:08] in the final match where I was betting first,
[00:14:10] that the most destructive opening pair in all season
[00:14:14] within five overs, not both of them, but within five overs,
[00:14:17] a Bishak as opener, Tripati at one down and Marker at two down
[00:14:21] and all been undone by a left arm quick.
[00:14:25] In I think it was at 4.6.
[00:14:27] Yeah, all three were gone.
[00:14:28] Left arm quick who is swinging the ball.
[00:14:31] Immediately, Mitchell Stark is watching that having just won the game for his team
[00:14:35] at a different stadium.
[00:14:35] Mitchell Stark is watching that saying,
[00:14:37] I can do this too.
[00:14:37] Right?
[00:14:38] I mean, how great was Trent Bolt and why does he always seem to show up in these big moments?
[00:14:42] Yeah, I mean, fantastic.
[00:14:43] Right?
[00:14:43] He's another Delhi player, ex-Deli player if I'm not wrong.
[00:14:48] As is Avesh, as is we can send you, I think, as his head.
[00:14:54] And Abhishek Sharma.
[00:14:56] And Abhishek will come to Abhishek Sharma because he only made 12 of five in this,
[00:15:00] I think.
[00:15:01] And Travis Shake opening partnership didn't do much.
[00:15:04] I was calling it Heady Shake,
[00:15:05] but Travis Shake may be better.
[00:15:07] Heady Shake.
[00:15:08] Heady Shake sounds like headache and they've been a headache for every other team.
[00:15:14] Let's move on.
[00:15:15] The important stuff.
[00:15:16] It's a Travis Shake or Heady Shake didn't really make any runs.
[00:15:20] But it was kind of like you'd expect Chennai to take spin,
[00:15:25] but the opening damage was done by Bolt.
[00:15:29] Right?
[00:15:29] And as you say, Stark would have been looking that licking his lips.
[00:15:32] The other crucial factor here was there was no due.
[00:15:36] Right?
[00:15:36] And so SRH, I think, won the toss and decided to bat,
[00:15:40] which is what they've done throughout the tournament, right?
[00:15:41] Because they've been the ones breaking all the records.
[00:15:46] And so maybe that was a good decision because there was no
[00:15:50] due that came down unlike in M. The Bad which was affected by due.
[00:15:55] Yeah.
[00:15:55] So I mean, Heidtsebath made 175.
[00:15:57] Rajasthan, you'd think they'd be able to chase it.
[00:16:00] Jaswal actually looked pretty good.
[00:16:02] And just completely fell apart, right?
[00:16:05] You had, and I'll come to it, but Sanjeev Sampson, Rian Parag,
[00:16:09] Ash, Hetmire, Paahal, nobody was able to bat.
[00:16:11] I mean, at the end of it, fell short by more than 30 runs.
[00:16:14] This is a very, very disappointing chase.
[00:16:16] Varun Dhruvjurel in a losing cause looked like he might give them some hope at the end there,
[00:16:21] but in a losing cause made a nice half century.
[00:16:24] How important was that for him?
[00:16:26] You know, off of the back of what has been a pretty subpar season honestly.
[00:16:30] Yeah. Look, it's he's, he's not, I don't think he's done enough to say that he's going to be retained by R.
[00:16:37] R. But it's always good to play that knock just before, you know, this tournament finishes.
[00:16:43] And as you look back and think about it, people will remember his knock.
[00:16:47] So I think he did himself some favors.
[00:16:49] I think he helped his team.
[00:16:52] But overall, I mean, without that knock, like they were just barely going to touch 100.
[00:16:57] So gave the team a little bit of a respectable chance, but overall nothing to write home about.
[00:17:04] I just feel like RR has done this too often.
[00:17:06] They've, you know, they're the opposite again, like I keep saying, they're the opposite of an RCB.
[00:17:12] And somewhere somebody's going to stand up when it counts and that's the difference.
[00:17:18] Yeah. So I mean, I mean, well said, sort of predictably then
[00:17:23] Hyderabad versus KKR in the finals. DJ, you've talked about how SRA Hyderabad has been the team
[00:17:29] who's been putting big totals on the board. Pat comes out, what comes out wins the toss says
[00:17:33] he wants to bat six to the game plan despite. Yeah. Despite how it went wrong just a couple
[00:17:40] days earlier, different cities, different stadium and Shreyas comes out saying, yeah, I would have
[00:17:43] bowled anyway. So of course that's what captains do sometimes. But do you think
[00:17:49] they lost the match a little bit at the toss or do you think that was the right call for Hyderabad
[00:17:53] given how their season has gone? No, I think it is the right call for Hyderabad given what
[00:17:59] how the season has gone. They back themselves to put a big score on the total and then defend it
[00:18:06] with the likes of Natarjan, Gurbaneswar and others. Again, the due factor if there's due
[00:18:13] you would want to chase because the ball comes on a bit better onto the bat in the second
[00:18:17] innings. They saw that there was no due in the first game that they played there because they
[00:18:22] actually, unlike AKR had experience of playing at Chennai and Chepok before the final right. So
[00:18:28] they were able to assess those conditions. The reality of it and we'll get to it is that
[00:18:32] they just didn't put enough runs on the board. That was a ridiculous innings. Yeah. I think
[00:18:40] they made a mistake by running first. And it showed because when the when Stark went to his
[00:18:48] run up, you saw Abhishek on the strikers and not Travis head. And I think mind games, right?
[00:18:55] A team that is so dependent on these top two, you essentially have lost the game in the first
[00:19:01] 10 minutes of the game in the qualifier or whatever it's called. And you have put
[00:19:09] yourself in the same situation. Your openers are not in good form. Travis head is duck, duck
[00:19:14] something and three ducks in the last four innings. Yeah. And that's why I think that you basically
[00:19:21] put yourself in a situation where your dependency on the openers is so high and you lost the game
[00:19:25] before the powerplay was done. Now it could have happened in the second innings. So nobody's
[00:19:30] stopping that and giving credit away from KKR. I just feel that you lost it to her. You
[00:19:34] didn't give yourself a chance. Yeah. I think that's well said, right? I mean,
[00:19:37] if you're sitting there at 21 for three in the within the powerplay and you then need somebody
[00:19:43] to come out and play a big innings. And I thought this might be class and tonight it's the kind of
[00:19:47] knock he's played before it's the kind of knock he's very capable of playing. Mark
[00:19:50] Krum could have done something and full credit actually, a lot of the memories will be Mitchell
[00:19:54] Stark, but full credit to Rana, Russell and Varun who bowled the middle overs and got
[00:20:00] and closed it out. It's not it's not that uncommon to see a team to soup to 21 for
[00:20:04] three, but then they build back and the KKR middle over boulders just put the strangle hold
[00:20:09] on and give them nothing absolutely nothing back. So 113 for 10 Venkatesh Ayer this time came out
[00:20:16] made a magnificent half century. It looked like it was going to be it looked like it could have
[00:20:21] dragged on a little bit at the end. It almost did for about a four or five extra deliveries,
[00:20:25] but phenomenal phenomenal to see both the Ayer's at the crease again, finishing it off. I mean
[00:20:32] I think in the grand scheme of things definitely still one of my worst some reasons he buys
[00:20:36] but one of the worst IPL finals I've ever seen. I mean just in terms of it being boring and then
[00:20:41] of course they're 90 minutes of downtime before the presentation and all the other chief guests
[00:20:47] didn't come because they expected a full match award. I'm not actually sure. I don't know.
[00:20:55] They would have expected it to be 20 overs right except it was over in 10 overs so they
[00:21:00] would have to kill time and Shah Rukh was dancing and this and that.
[00:21:03] But let me ask you a lot of the discussion already in the news has been Gautam Kambir right
[00:21:08] at the helm in terms of coach obviously captain this side for a long time Gigi Bhaiya and
[00:21:15] and has now lift and has now coached them to a trophy. I want to ask you about Shreyas Ayer
[00:21:21] right probably the one of the more understated captains in terms of
[00:21:25] media and being out there and doing things obviously he seems to be pretty active on reels
[00:21:29] which you know more about than me but how brilliant a season has he had right like he picked up
[00:21:35] captaincy for Delhi took them to the playoffs or top the table took them to the playoffs
[00:21:40] picked up I mean is he just a behind the scenes phenomenal leader is whatever he's
[00:21:44] doing in the change room working field placements championing his boners. I don't know what it
[00:21:48] is but he's clearly like results are results right. Yeah and look he's dealing with two
[00:21:53] personalities right Ricky Ponting and Gautam Kambir. So some even as Rohit Sharma with a Jai Vardhani
[00:21:59] in that one Netflix series that we saw it looked like Rohit had no role. Rohit has of course grown
[00:22:05] massively in the last six years or eight years since that was shot but I do think you're
[00:22:11] dealing with big personalities I think you're dealing with people who know how to win motivate
[00:22:16] and so you just kind of need to take a little bit of a back step backseat and say
[00:22:21] maybe this part of the job is taken off my plate and I need to focus on what's happening
[00:22:28] on the field and so I do give Sharers credit for what he's done a lot of us had you know make a
[00:22:35] lot of fun of him but two teams in two finals having one one of them given his back injury
[00:22:43] last year he missed the IPL he had a stellar World Cup he was thought to have been faking a
[00:22:49] back injury in the test he's lost his central contract and he's come out and answered them like
[00:22:54] this right so I think again it comes down to credit where it's due yes I don't think he contributed
[00:23:00] as much but that's the way it goes sometimes you know you've got captains and like think about
[00:23:06] this Rinku Singh didn't contribute to KKR's win at all like none of us if somebody told us KKR
[00:23:15] is going to win you're probably going to have written down that Rinku's going to win them
[00:23:18] at least four to five out of these 16 games I don't think that even happened once
[00:23:25] yeah I think well said and I think I said back and say the player of the series is Sunil Narayan
[00:23:30] and it's actually phenomenal that that's that happened and that he delivered that season DJ
[00:23:35] before we wrap this section take a quick break Hyderabad played against KKR in the finals
[00:23:43] obviously not a single player from the Indian T20 World Cup side was playing that final so actually
[00:23:51] they got to get together early go start doing their training etc is that is that problematic in
[00:23:58] any way shape or form as you think about team India selection versus IPL champions I mean the
[00:24:03] Twitter memes were a light right saying how Jay Shah has come up with the master plan to keep all
[00:24:08] the Australian players busy because Pat Kham is Mitchell Stark to have his head all of these guys
[00:24:14] were playing in the final look when and I think we spoke about this last week maybe and now we
[00:24:23] were talking about how the Mumbai Indians has Rohit Skye, Bumrah, I don't know Hardik four
[00:24:33] players out of the Indian starting 11 from the Mumbai Indians which have finished bottom
[00:24:37] of the table right it's a little bit weird not to have a single player from the teams the two best
[00:24:44] teams of the tournament being part of that Indian contingent that's gone I mean Rinku I think it's
[00:24:51] a reserve maybe Ayur is not in the reckoning another point around what Varun was just saying
[00:24:57] that Ayur has had a pretty rough time recently but if you've got kind of seven let's say you've
[00:25:03] got 14 players in the final 14 Indian players in the final maybe more with the impact some
[00:25:09] and none of them are in India's best 11 I actually don't know what that says about our selection
[00:25:18] I did say something about a selection or it says something about the quality of the IPL right
[00:25:22] I don't know what I don't know what to make of it I mean realistically like only Varun Chakravarti
[00:25:31] and Abhishek Sharma would have and the reason I'm saying that is because you realize that
[00:25:35] T20 is really the team sport if everyone takes 12 for kids and everyone makes 300 runs nobody stands
[00:25:44] out but when everyone does that you win the trophy yeah you need the Joginder Sharma's man
[00:25:49] that's that's the reality of it you need the Jogies I can't think of better note on which to
[00:25:55] to wrap up this section take a quick break we will be back to talk a little bit more about
[00:26:00] a debrief on what happened in the IPL stay tuned don't go anywhere we will be right back
[00:26:13] welcome back to the edges and sliders cricket podcast if you're watching this on youtube hit
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[00:26:22] we're live on youtube let's we're going to play a quick game so why don't you play along
[00:26:25] with us so Varun this is about the time of year when I think you were sending us everybody
[00:26:30] sending their team and their team of the tournament right their best 11 of course you have Travis
[00:26:34] head some have Abhishek Sharma you have boom rah you have Mitchell Stark is a little bit
[00:26:39] polarizing because this recency bias but you pick your best 11 so we are actually for our listeners
[00:26:43] we're not going to do that for those of you who've listened to the show for a while we typically
[00:26:47] do a different version of sort of awards we historically call them the Bacuaskar awards
[00:26:52] I don't know if that's politically correct with Gavaskar being in the in the media
[00:26:57] recently with Kohli etc as well but we're going to crown this year's what we're going to call the IPL
[00:27:04] 2024 Bacuaskar 11 okay so the way this format is going to work I'm going to list start listing
[00:27:10] by kind of segment of the 11 or maybe we call it 12 if we want to have an impact player
[00:27:15] some of my nominations for the who should qualify for the team I'm going to have you
[00:27:21] guys talk about it and then we make our final final decisions as to who whom who qualifies
[00:27:26] live on it you guys ready to go yeah this is not quantifiable right like you can say this guy
[00:27:30] won the orange cap Kohli won the orange cap purple potato and the purple cap yeah but you can't
[00:27:34] quantify who is the worst this is a hundred percent subjective this is a hundred percent
[00:27:39] subjective that's why you listen to the best the numbers are only part of the picture all right
[00:27:44] let's go let's go openers and let's call it top order okay so pick the top three or four I actually
[00:27:50] have a shockingly high number of nominations for this one so I'm going to start running down
[00:27:55] your first nominee Quinton de Kock 250 runs average of 22.7 striker of 134 okay second nominee
[00:28:05] dev that particle I think this one I was expecting you to have given us the best run like that's much
[00:28:10] easier to remember I'm not giving you I mean I can try to do math on look they've got
[00:28:14] particle remember I does anybody remember what I said gun Maxwell's average was 5.78
[00:28:20] that particle seven innings 38 runs average of 5.43 and a striker of 71.6 I should we just go ahead
[00:28:29] and put them in no debate why you want him to play for India still I don't know I'm out to the US
[00:28:37] all right but I mean yeah okay that's fine okay you give us the choices Quinton de Kock dev that
[00:28:42] particle I've Johnny Bearstone here his average was 29 his striker was 152 so it's not bad but
[00:28:48] his 298 runs in the season included a century X that his average was like 17 but he didn't make 180
[00:28:56] not out in a match when I cause in a record breaking chase actually in a record break and he did the
[00:29:03] my next two come from the same team David Warner average of 21 striker of 134
[00:29:10] didn't end up playing the rest of the series obviously as Jake Frazier McGurk came in
[00:29:16] and Prithvi Shah average 24 striker 163 so for me Shah might be just just inflate well enough to
[00:29:23] miss out on this team and then DJ this was on your list it wasn't on my initial list but I'll
[00:29:29] add in Rohit Sharma average of 32 striker of 150 one again like Bearstone made a century so that
[00:29:35] skews the numbers a little bit but why don't we start there with openers I have a few more
[00:29:39] for the top order any any so actually sorry one more one more to throw in and it makes for openers
[00:29:45] specifically Rediman Sahe nine innings 136 runs average of 15 striker of 118 so I have my thoughts
[00:29:56] but I want to come to you guys what do you guys think so I'm going to put my hand up for David
[00:30:00] David that particle okay he's definitely number one in the Bacow Asker 12 but I see you have a
[00:30:08] pad out so you're taking notes which is great I'm writing down sir two days that but he cannot be
[00:30:13] in there because he didn't open because of a certain guy called K. R. Hull who just went to
[00:30:19] told the team man okay we'll put him number three then five absolutely yeah go and buy
[00:30:25] particle because we need an opener and then make him sit out and you give him bat and number
[00:30:32] three but by the way I'm going to do middle automatic because that's what my country needs me
[00:30:37] so yeah okay particles three then fine but we have to agree particle had an awful season he's three
[00:30:44] in this Bacow Asker 11 if you bat a three he gets three right the majority wins so yeah okay let me
[00:30:53] give you the last three that I have at my top order nominations yeah why don't we give us
[00:30:57] the one we choose the top three okay wait so you got these guys they'll give you the last three
[00:31:02] Ajinkya Rahane 12 innings average of 20 striker of 123
[00:31:09] well see that's the kind of stats you need to be selected for the world's championship final
[00:31:14] yeah but not for the 20s to play 12 but there are no rest days dude so the IP
[00:31:20] rest days all right two more I'm going to run through this is a lot I told you I don't have
[00:31:24] nearly as many bowler nominations so bowling is going to be easy. Rachendra Vindra good
[00:31:29] good knock late in the season one good knock but an average of 22 striker was 160 so best better
[00:31:35] than anybody else and then Deepak Huda maybe that may be closer to middle order nomination
[00:31:41] but nine innings 145 runs average of 18 striker of 138 so Quintin de Coq, David
[00:31:49] at particle Johnny Bearstow, David Warner, Pritvishaw, Rohit Sharma, Rahane, Ratchan, Huda and
[00:31:58] Riddhi Mansa. Let's pick our top four so Huda comes in for four particle three I think Quinny
[00:32:07] D takes the... Quinny has to open right? Quinny has to open this Bhakwaskar 11 and that leaves
[00:32:13] interesting question of who he opens with. Man for me I think I mean we picked so many
[00:32:21] key players for me I think Sahar was abyssal absolutely abyssal this season. Varun what do
[00:32:26] you think you've been quite as you're taking? I'm thinking Warner man like I thought he was
[00:32:30] a disaster I've never seen Warner so bad and if somebody told you that your top three are
[00:32:37] going to be Mitch Warner and Shaw and you've ended the season with Jake Porel and Hope I didn't see
[00:32:46] that coming so to me like I think Warner and De Coq man. Now we didn't establish this up front to
[00:32:53] it does this 11 have a four-four under rule or should we leave that? I was just thinking that.
[00:32:58] And I was thinking and Varun was saying we should get Quinny and Warner in to open us like maybe
[00:33:03] we should have a left and right and then get Rane. Okay wait so you guys are going to go for Jinx
[00:33:11] I'm gonna go for Jinx. I think Jinx yeah okay. Jinx I mean Bearstow was a close one Warner was a
[00:33:18] close one I think Jinx just looks so out of place playing T20 cricket man. I think we can
[00:33:23] eliminate Bearstow and Rohit because of their centuries like even if it's one knock that's
[00:33:26] fine okay. So Quinton, Warner, David, Jinx and Sahab four out of these five basically right?
[00:33:36] Let's do Rane and Quint to keep the left hand right hand. Lefty righty and overseas mix.
[00:33:41] So Warner can be in the 15 he can be the better. Warner can be an unimpact sub. Perfect. Yeah.
[00:33:48] All right that's not bad. We've got an openers number three is David. Number four for me is Huda.
[00:33:54] Should you agree they've done? I mean I agree they've done has to be there. I'm not getting
[00:33:59] done. And I'm a four. Average of 5.4 has anybody ever played this many innings at
[00:34:05] average less that's going to be. Yes Max. Max is 5.7. But yes okay so I. So Maxwell gets in at five
[00:34:15] clearly. Yeah Max is five. Okay so your middle over your middle overs guys middle order slash
[00:34:21] all runners again a pretty long list. You guys aren't gonna like one over.
[00:34:25] Robman Powell, seven innings average of 17. Strike rate of 150. So you give him that.
[00:34:34] Let Max well nine innings 52 runs 5.78 average 121 strike. So should we just go ahead and
[00:34:41] read him? Just he just gets in for that last shot against Ashwin also. Just yeah just done.
[00:34:46] It's just done. I mean if you're averaging five then you decide to hit Ashwin first ball for a six.
[00:34:51] I mean the odds are against you completely. All right so we have our top five.
[00:34:59] I'm backwards on order a little bit this shows you how detailed my purpose.
[00:35:03] Aiden Marker might have in there he had a very middling season but he did average 24
[00:35:07] and strike it 124. So maybe you think about for now. I then go slightly lower order.
[00:35:13] So I have David Miller. You can think about Gujarat a lot of these names become from Gujarat.
[00:35:17] Nine innings 210 runs average of 35 because he doesn't get out that much.
[00:35:22] Striker of 151 but he was a big part of Gujarat success in prior years and just came up short.
[00:35:29] I do have this guy on here. Let's take a quick executive vote. Do we leave Hardik Pandya out?
[00:35:33] We know there's a lot going on right now with him. I don't know what rumors are true,
[00:35:36] founded, unfounded. He's going through a lot of personal issues. Do you leave him out or
[00:35:39] does he still make the cut? On cricketing numbers what are his numbers on the cricketing
[00:35:44] front man? Forget it. There's a lot of noise outside right now. Seven percent of his numbers
[00:35:50] are rickets or? Wait say that again. Nothing. There's a joke which clearly you're not following.
[00:35:57] Is his bowling average greater than the average is the question. That is an excellent question.
[00:36:04] I only have his batting stats. I'm going to try to pull his bowling ones on the fly.
[00:36:08] By number six you're getting into all round those territory right?
[00:36:11] Yeah. So his men, I'm going to have a hard time doing this on the fly. But his bowling,
[00:36:18] his batting statistics are 216 runs in the tournament, average of 18 and a striker of 143.
[00:36:26] A striker is not two men. No that's the other Pandya. Okay let's keep going.
[00:36:34] Warren are we leaving him out? I'll leave him out. I'll tell you why.
[00:36:37] Okay sorry his bowling average is 35 so his bowling average is high.
[00:36:42] How many wickets did he take? He picked up 11 wickets for 387 runs.
[00:36:48] Yeah so to me I leave him out because A he's got enough head and B he was not the worst
[00:36:54] performer in that 11. Who was the worst performer in the Mumbai?
[00:36:58] But we don't have a Mumbai player in yet do we? Yeah we're just too old. I mean...
[00:37:04] I think you've got to put him in down. Who's the worst performer in the Mumbai game?
[00:37:08] I'll make him captain because that's his contract. We do need a captain. We do need a skipper.
[00:37:16] This is horrible. I was feeling bad for that game. You were feeling so bad.
[00:37:18] And now you're like excluding him from the 11? Two seconds later he's like
[00:37:23] let's make him the captain of this rubbish. Because that's what all his contracts have
[00:37:28] a captaincy clause. Oh man that's terrible. Okay he's on the team.
[00:37:33] Okay so I guess we're going Maxwell 5, Hardwick 6. Let me give you a couple other names right?
[00:37:37] Dhruv Jherell. He redeemed himself late in the end but he had a bad season. 15 innings.
[00:37:43] He had that runout which was weird man. He played every game.
[00:37:47] 3x of particle. 195 runs. Average is 24. Strike rims 138. I think he doesn't have
[00:37:54] 5x of particle nearly. I do have two names that should potentially make the card.
[00:37:59] Jitesh Sharma. Again we have a lot of keepers. 12 innings. He came in as like he should play
[00:38:05] for India. Like he was right up there. 187 runs. Average was 17. Striker of 131.
[00:38:12] So Jitesh is up there and then we have Hardwick Pandya 1.0. Hardwick Pandya 2.0.
[00:38:19] Jieshankar. 7 innings. 83 runs. Average of 16. Striker of 115. Did not take a wicket.
[00:38:30] Didn't bowl maybe. I mean I feel like that. He only played 7 out of the 14 but I feel like
[00:38:36] that's a pretty good case to walk in at 7 I feel like right? Yeah you could have Hardwick Pandya
[00:38:42] 1.0 followed by Hardwick Pandya 2.0. I would put that there also because then you got
[00:38:48] Maxxer and Hardwick to bowl and Vijay as a backup. So you could actually...
[00:38:55] That's a bad sign. This is a pretty good sign. I mean...
[00:38:59] Left hand, right hand. We've got these good bowlers. We still have two overseas slots to pick.
[00:39:06] All right. We have 7 but we don't have a keeper.
[00:39:09] We have 6, 3. Didn't we have the R? Didn't we have Queenie?
[00:39:13] Queenie D's keeper. Oh Queenie, Queenie who didn't keep.
[00:39:16] Yeah but that's the point. In the Bakwaskar 12 he's going to keep.
[00:39:20] Nice dude, we covered all the bases. This is not a bad team.
[00:39:23] We have a captain and wicket keeper, couple of all-rounders.
[00:39:26] All right you're ready for number 8? This should be no debate but I know you guys will
[00:39:30] fight me on it. 31.4 overs, 5 wickets for 309 runs. Bowling average of 61.8.
[00:39:38] Economy rate of 9.75. Of course I'm talking about Shardz on Thakwar.
[00:39:42] Yeah I think he walks. It was one of the worst bowling. I mean I had to scroll
[00:39:46] really far when I sorted the stat by average to get to time.
[00:39:51] Did you? He came on as impact player a lot though. He didn't really bat so he'll have
[00:39:55] to split into one of the bowling slots, not the all-rounder slots.
[00:39:58] So 8 right? You think he play him at 9?
[00:40:01] I think 9. I think he need... Okay.
[00:40:04] Okay. The impact sub world you need one more. They all bat one lower right?
[00:40:10] Because you bat till 7. True, true, true. All right I haven't thought that far ahead.
[00:40:14] All right let me give you a couple more nominations that we'll discuss.
[00:40:18] I did have Ravi Ashwin on here. Objet to be a pretty bad season right until the end.
[00:40:25] 9 wickets for 467 runs. Average of 51.8. Economy rate 8.5 which was not bad in
[00:40:32] a season like this but it was not great man. So keep that...
[00:40:35] He kept the total in the last game right? Correct.
[00:40:38] So keep that back pocket but 9 for 467 is pretty bad return. I do have the other Pandya on here.
[00:40:46] 33 over 6 for 255 was his stats. Average of 42 but his economy rate was solid.
[00:40:52] So he was basically bowling tight over 7.7 economy rate.
[00:40:55] You're not trying to take wickets.
[00:40:56] So maybe he doesn't. If we jump down to like probably numbers 10 and 11.
[00:41:02] Current Sharma. 24 over 7 for 254 but economy rate of 10.6.
[00:41:08] So that's a pretty decent case and then you start getting into
[00:41:12] does somebody qualify for Bacchuska if they don't play that many games?
[00:41:16] I feel like a shoe and again should be Anriak Nokiha.
[00:41:19] Six games. Man he... Six games 7 for 294. Economy rate of 13.3.
[00:41:25] Yeah Nokiha for sure. He had an awful game man. He had an awful series.
[00:41:31] Okay so we got Nokiha... He was one of the Delhi retentions last time around.
[00:41:35] So we're seeing we have Nokiha at 11 let's put him. Yeah. Vijay not Vijay. Shardul at 8 or 9.
[00:41:43] Yeah. I couldn't really find a more accurate if anything.
[00:41:46] If you guys can recommend any other good spinners other than Karan Sharma.
[00:41:50] Markande? Markande was not good. That's correct. That's a good shout.
[00:41:56] The only other one actually that was that stats were pretty poor.
[00:41:59] He had like a huge series.
[00:42:02] So Mohit had the worst spell in history. His stats overall are not bad but 4 over 0 for 73
[00:42:07] was the worst spell in IPL history and then you have Thikshan.
[00:42:12] He definitely gets the Basil Thampi award which we got in the past.
[00:42:15] For sure he got thumped. The thumper became the thumpy.
[00:42:19] You have Mahesh Thikshan actually 20 overs 2 for 144 so his average was 72.
[00:42:26] But he only bought 20 overs in the whole tournament.
[00:42:28] And then I come back like I said Varun one of the last names that was on my list
[00:42:32] won for 129 in three matches he played.
[00:42:36] Average of 129 because he only picked up one weekend. He counted me at 12.9.
[00:42:40] His Marko Janssen who was a shoe-in in the Hyderabad side for you
[00:42:44] and then basically didn't even play because of how bad he was.
[00:42:48] And Travis had Ken back. That's why.
[00:42:51] Ken is a... okay.
[00:42:55] Three ducks and four innings.
[00:42:56] Basically I think we need the spinner so we got to get my Marko Janssen there.
[00:43:00] Yeah let me pull up Marko Janssen stats while you guys are talking about the others.
[00:43:03] No I think Thikshan, you said he only bought 20 overs but that's five games dude.
[00:43:08] Yeah that's true.
[00:43:09] Five four that's quite a lot of games to go at 72 per wicket.
[00:43:13] I think Thikshan takes one of those slots man.
[00:43:16] That is correct.
[00:43:17] And we have only one overs.
[00:43:19] So Thikshan has five games he had 20 overs and only two wickets.
[00:43:23] So that's fair for sure.
[00:43:25] I'm going to find Marko Janssen stats while we talk.
[00:43:30] And Nokia takes the other slot.
[00:43:32] Mike Marko Janssen, seven innings 22 overs, 8 for 259.
[00:43:38] Average was 32.
[00:43:39] That's not bad.
[00:43:41] Strike he got away at 11.7 so not great.
[00:43:44] Yeah.
[00:43:44] Yeah but Thikshan has a spinner.
[00:43:45] He also played in some of the big scoring games where people scored in 250.
[00:43:49] Yeah true.
[00:43:50] So do we just need one final pace is it Mohit?
[00:43:54] We can go Mohit, we can also go Deepak Chahar 23 overs 5 for 202 average of 44.
[00:44:00] Also very you know again somebody who on my list was like man if this guy can show up a
[00:44:04] little he should be an India consideration because he knows how to bat and he did not
[00:44:08] make him do himself any favors this year.
[00:44:11] All right final thoughts and then Varun will you read back R11 to us
[00:44:15] because you've been making the note.
[00:44:17] I am yeah DJ give me the final bowler.
[00:44:21] I can't think of anyone.
[00:44:22] So we have Charidol and eight or Charidol nine Nokia Thikshana.
[00:44:28] You're looking for one more quick right then?
[00:44:30] Yeah and Marko Janssen because it no Marko Janssen is done.
[00:44:35] Marko Janssen is not in I think.
[00:44:37] Yeah he's not in okay yeah we got Thikshan nine.
[00:44:40] Yeah.
[00:44:41] Yeah.
[00:44:43] You might maybe just get to Mohit.
[00:44:44] There must be some poor bowlers from Punjab because they like finished ninth.
[00:44:51] Actually didn't have a great season this season.
[00:44:54] He wasn't bad though.
[00:44:55] He wasn't bad let's see Punjab bowlers Harpreet seven for 303 average 43 but he
[00:45:04] couldn't really it was sub eight so that wasn't too bad.
[00:45:08] Yep.
[00:45:10] Rabada 11 for 372 average 33 so I think nobody was egregious it looks like but nobody was good.
[00:45:17] Sam Karan 16 for 416.
[00:45:19] Yeah he picked up lots of junk.
[00:45:22] Lots of junk and then actually picked up 19 wickets so I just excluded him to the number of wickets.
[00:45:26] Yeah yeah yeah fair.
[00:45:29] I think let's just go with Mohit then.
[00:45:30] I think you go with Mohit for 73.
[00:45:32] For the worst 7 in history.
[00:45:33] Worst 7 in history.
[00:45:34] Yep.
[00:45:34] Yeah fair.
[00:45:35] Done.
[00:45:36] All right so we've got Quinton, Nikok and Rahane opening.
[00:45:40] We've got an overseas left-right agri-kipper.
[00:45:43] We've got Padikal and three, Huda at four.
[00:45:46] We've got then the all-rounders Maxwell and Pandya who I think people would pay a lot of money for.
[00:45:51] You've got Vijay Shankar at seven who's.
[00:45:55] I mean that's a not a that's a great 5 6 7.
[00:45:57] It's a pretty good make and that Vijay Shankar does better when Harpreet is captaining.
[00:46:02] Oh yeah and Harpreet Pandya is our captain.
[00:46:04] Yeah.
[00:46:04] Then you've got Shahrzal at eight.
[00:46:06] You've got Tikshana at nine.
[00:46:09] Mohit at 10 and Nukia at 11.
[00:46:13] And because we have only three overseas, no we've got Tikshana and Nukia.
[00:46:18] So we've got four overseas so we're pretty sorted.
[00:46:20] It's a great balance.
[00:46:21] It's a pretty empty like I can totally imagine Delhi buying this 11 next year.
[00:46:26] I don't think so.
[00:46:27] Just great.
[00:46:30] So like let's reset at the mega auction and get all of these guys.
[00:46:34] No, there's two other questions we should speak about before we wrap but I think once we're done
[00:46:39] Bacchuskar.
[00:46:39] Yeah, I mean I would just say my 12th, 12th man on the Bacchuskar team.
[00:46:42] I don't think you guys give it enough importance is Rithuman Sahab.
[00:46:46] Man you really have to Sahab.
[00:46:47] You can't average how can you average 15 and strike at 18?
[00:46:51] Tell us about Manish Pante's knock.
[00:46:52] His single knock in the whole season.
[00:46:54] He bet.
[00:46:55] Manish Pante is an icon.
[00:46:57] Don't question me.
[00:46:58] How can you how can you bet?
[00:46:59] What did I say Sahab's numbers were one 15 and average of 15 and striker of 118.
[00:47:05] I mean it's just just horrendous.
[00:47:08] He's a good keeper backup too so he's a good 12th.
[00:47:11] Yeah, I think he's a good 12th man.
[00:47:13] DJ Manish Pante picked one innings.
[00:47:15] That's what I'm saying.
[00:47:17] But he made 42.
[00:47:17] But it was so awful.
[00:47:19] It was 42 of 31 balls.
[00:47:21] He deserves to make it in there just for like.
[00:47:24] All right well this was fun.
[00:47:25] We have 11 we have our 12 actually.
[00:47:27] If you're listening on YouTube put in the comments who we missed,
[00:47:29] who you disagree with.
[00:47:30] What would your 11 be of the least successful players of the tournament?
[00:47:34] But I just love my favorite part of it is you saying no hard thing and then immediately making him.
[00:47:38] It's like making the captain.
[00:47:41] No, but all the time.
[00:47:42] All right DJ you had a couple other things you wanted to head for before we wrap.
[00:47:44] Yeah two things.
[00:47:45] One Dinesh Kartik man.
[00:47:49] He's done and dusted with the IPL.
[00:47:51] Yeah.
[00:47:51] Like I mean he feels kind of bad because he's been around for a long time.
[00:47:57] He made his debut a long, long time ago.
[00:48:00] He's played every season of the IPL along with Dhoni and Rohit and Virat I think.
[00:48:06] And so he's one of those kind of year after year with Union right.
[00:48:09] 16 years in and I mean he's been doing that year in year out.
[00:48:14] So congratulations to him on a great season.
[00:48:18] And I'm here a decent season and a great career actually.
[00:48:21] And we look forward to seeing him in the Com box because he's actually one of the sparks
[00:48:25] in the Com box and just great to watch.
[00:48:28] I don't know Varun, I know you're a big DK fan or anything to add.
[00:48:32] No man, just thinking would have been great if he played another two to three years and
[00:48:36] ended up in Chennai but that's not to be so.
[00:48:41] Well done DK man like you've had a great career.
[00:48:44] And actually this show.
[00:48:46] This show started at the run cost than it has.
[00:48:52] And so it's so top of mind and so special for us like six seven six and a half years ago we started
[00:48:56] the show when DK went absolutely nuts and we started saying wait a minute this guy could be
[00:49:00] a phenomenal finisher.
[00:49:01] So congratulations on a great career.
[00:49:03] 29 of eight man what a knock that was unforgettable.
[00:49:07] But also Varun you spoke about he can play two three more years and finish off at Chennai.
[00:49:11] Thala for a reason but Thala for another season.
[00:49:15] Like what's going on there's just rumors about all this.
[00:49:19] Ashwin is already cringing he's like I can't take another season of this yellow stuff and
[00:49:25] like it's too much but naturally there's going to be like a mega auction right?
[00:49:29] And yeah everything's going to change.
[00:49:32] Yeah and apparently he's going through a surgery and so there's a lot going on.
[00:49:35] Look I think he's going through some surgery or recovery and he has five six months to take
[00:49:41] a final decision.
[00:49:42] He's not somebody who announced it the way we were expecting him to announce it.
[00:49:46] I think he's built such a status that it's truly his decision.
[00:49:52] The mega auction is going to cause an issue because if he can't play three years they're
[00:49:56] going to waste money on retaining him.
[00:49:58] Yeah.
[00:49:58] And then the spanner in the works is that Stephen Fleming is a name for
[00:50:03] the India coach probably and so does that open up a spot at CSK for a coach and
[00:50:09] so like I've been maintaining throughout with everybody I speak to you're going to see him
[00:50:13] in the dugout next year.
[00:50:16] In what capacity we'll find out I think in October or November.
[00:50:21] Yeah but also speaking of the coach I mean Gautam Gambhir congrats to him.
[00:50:24] Like I've been watching a lot of social media over this IPL right?
[00:50:29] He did an interview with Ashwin which if people haven't watched not our Ashwin
[00:50:33] our Ashwin.
[00:50:34] That is really helpful.
[00:50:37] But like that's kind of single-minded psychopathic devotion to winning where even
[00:50:44] Nitish Rana at the end of it said I'm really glad to have you in the in the side and he's
[00:50:48] like don't thank me now thank me after we lift the cup on this date in May.
[00:50:53] And you almost think that is there something to this dedication that Gambhir has?
[00:51:00] Is he actually the right person for this job?
[00:51:03] I mean the personality in the dressing room I don't know but Kohli seems to have made
[00:51:08] his peace with him Rohit has always been okay with him.
[00:51:12] And maybe he's the one to start winning that silverware again.
[00:51:16] He's a two-time World Cup winner.
[00:51:17] He's top scorer in both those World Cup finals.
[00:51:21] So I don't know man like I don't know what you're saying.
[00:51:24] I feel like he should be there.
[00:51:25] He just we've DJ you're the one who said it.
[00:51:27] He has this winning mentality or killer instinct right to win.
[00:51:32] He knows how to do it.
[00:51:33] He's done it in his time.
[00:51:35] He's got four trophies in his days as a player.
[00:51:38] He could have been a captain of India and if not captain of India this is the
[00:51:43] next job job.
[00:51:44] So don't get me wrong.
[00:51:46] He will be the coach.
[00:51:48] I just think he should save it for a two-year period like give the next two years to KKR,
[00:51:54] let Rohit and Kohli bow out, come up with a young team, a new captain guide them, mentor
[00:52:00] them and I think that's what's going to happen.
[00:52:02] Because it's what happened to Justin Langer right?
[00:52:05] Like he had this great Australian team and he had that mentality of being this
[00:52:08] great Australian player and that clashed with these youngsters quite a lot.
[00:52:14] So Pat Cummins and I've been watching the test.
[00:52:16] The season three has just come out and you can see like Pat Cummins now owns the team,
[00:52:21] which whereas there's a lot more Justin Langer in the first season.
[00:52:24] Anyway, just yeah.
[00:52:26] Yeah, lots we could discuss.
[00:52:29] We do have to wrap.
[00:52:30] I don't think we did talk Pat Cummins.
[00:52:32] We talked a lot about Treyasayar.
[00:52:33] Got to give full credit to Cummins although he came short first season as skipper.
[00:52:37] I mean expensive buy got some flackers and he's got a lot of money.
[00:52:41] I mean expensive buy got some flack early on and then pulled through similar to
[00:52:48] mental strike very, very expensive buy and although we made fun of him for the season
[00:52:51] and his season wide stats still aren't great.
[00:52:53] He finished strong and that's what matters.
[00:52:55] Jetson thank you.
[00:52:57] Just by the way both those guys were paid more than the entire KKR team.
[00:53:02] That is just an insane stat.
[00:53:05] Just absolutely insane stat.
[00:53:06] Fantasy.
[00:53:07] You have the fantasy open.
[00:53:08] You want to read through our top final winners?
[00:53:11] I've got it and you've been doing the fantasy update for the last few weeks right?
[00:53:15] But Ones108 has won the whole show with 38,715 points very closely followed by Wind2u
[00:53:27] who is a CSK fan but calls himself a green devil with 38,599 points
[00:53:33] and the podium is rounded off by Aayam Vishal Pujari with 38,398 points.
[00:53:40] Bishnoy Boy unfortunately has just fallen out of the top three and is at four.
[00:53:44] Uncle Sam ends at five and I say that unfortunately as like we're not even in the top 10 any of us.
[00:53:51] This has been a fantastic effort.
[00:53:53] Ping Pong gets number six.
[00:53:54] Cow Corner gets number seven.
[00:53:56] Vengeance gets number eight.
[00:53:58] Pratt165 gets number nine and Dynamite gets number 10 to the round of the top
[00:54:03] I am at 15th spot.
[00:54:06] Not bad.
[00:54:07] Varun at 20th and Ashway.
[00:54:11] Don't scroll.
[00:54:12] It's fine you don't just scroll that.
[00:54:14] Wow.
[00:54:16] Have I missed you or are we still going?
[00:54:18] Okay.
[00:54:18] Oh I'm pretty far down.
[00:54:20] Yeah I think I've caught you with the people.
[00:54:23] I'm on 39th.
[00:54:25] Okay fair enough.
[00:54:26] So I'm in the top 40.
[00:54:27] Let's go with that.
[00:54:28] Yeah yeah.
[00:54:29] Top half.
[00:54:31] Yeah guys deep breath.
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