That Was A VARry Shitty Call

Amogh: Hello and welcome to the corner flag. We are live on a Monday after the Manchester Derby is over and Ronaq and I are extremely depressed. Extremely depressed because that was a terrible, terrible showing. And to add to this depression, Ronaq, we have a special guest with us. Pranay is joining us from Tackle From Behind. Pranay: Thanks. Amogh: Pranay is a Manchester City fan. We see from that Pranay: Hahaha Amogh: this fucker is so happy. And I thought, I thought that Sunday was fucked because of what happened. How can we make Monday worse? And I said, let's Ronaq: Yeah Amogh: call the one Man City fan I know well and let's call him on the stream Ronaq: you Amogh: so that he can pile on the misery. Because they say that the best cure for a hangover is to drink more alcohol. The best cure for Manchester United induced Ronaq: you Amogh: depression is to induce more depression. Pranay: But, Amogh, I want to know what happened to your Instagram story, man. mean, you clicked that photo and you had like Amogh: This is Pranay: 23 times. Amogh: This... I... I... This always happens It always happens Ronaq: you Amogh: when I act too cocky and something impressive and interesting happens for my team and I get too cocky about and put my profile and then it just goes to shit after that. It's just... Ronaq: I think last episode we had singled out that you are the problem. Amogh: I am the problem. I am very much the problem. This was the Everton game Praneep. I was with my kid and Pranay: yeah. Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: she was not sleeping. So I couldn't She fell asleep. I had And I said that there 2-3 minutes left of stoppage time. Let's watch that. I was following it on athletic or whatever. So I let's the last 2-3 minutes. I turned on hotstar on my phone and made Maitland Niles. Pranay: And you saw two world-class goals, that you should be happy about it. Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Ronaq: you Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. This was a mistake, Pranay: You Amogh: no, Ronaq? This was a fucking mistake. He is too much. Too much. Too much. But this is where we stand, Ronaq: Yeah, he's taking too much pleasure in a pen. Pranay: You Amogh: right? This is where we stand right now. Four game weeks in Arsenal, four games, 12 points. Man City, four games, 12 points. Hull City, four Ronaq: Uh-uh. Amogh: games, eight points. Still unbeaten. Pranay: Wow. Amogh: Tottenham, Aston Villa and Coventry combined 12 games, two goals. This is beautiful. This is not, Pranay: you Amogh: it's a lovely, lovely race already at the top of the Premier League, but it is almost certain which teams are going to go down at the bottom of the Premier League. And Ronaq: you Amogh: surprise, surprise, Spurs and Aston Villa are in the mix. Ronaq: Yeah, mean Spurs, Pranay: I don't qualify. Ronaq: fourth game running, not even a goal scored. was more than a surprise. I thought one game is two games are three games are done. I was like, goal will By the fourth game, were people in the stands with the poster saying, please just score one goal. Amogh: Let's one goal, we a big stadium, we are something let something happen. But we will get to all the games, of course we will... Pranay: They are not able to their beer man, while watching that game, he is not able to score in their leg. Amogh: I feel the rules in the UK should change for Tottenham fans. I think in that one stadium or even when they are playing, whichever stadium they playing, if you a Spurs fan. So you should legally allowed to the match and alcohol. And fuck beer dude. Just Ronaq: Hmm. Amogh: them heroin. The light stuff isn't going to do it anymore. Pranay: But I think for Tottenham, the worst part is that the two players that they got from attack, I think they gave us 150 million to Amogh: You Pranay: actually Ronaq: Yeah. Pranay: in four games, they have zero contribution, man. I think that is even more surprising to me. I saw that I saw Mahmush in the last game for Spurs and Amogh: Hmm. Pranay: bro that I just don't know, man. That Marius code came to my mind, you know, like the only Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: way after leaving Man City is, you know, you're going down. Amogh: Yeah Pranay: That level is certainly gone to shit for Mamush because even if you remember in the last season, like he scored some world-class goals for us. He Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: was like scoring from anywhere, man. Like was like prime theory, Andhri. ball, Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: he shot goal. You know, he's taking five defenders like Lionel Messi. But the moment he goes to Spurs, he's actually Amogh: You Pranay: like, what am here? You know, he's like Richard Lisson 2.0 version there. Amogh: I am going to have to call out this one thing for you Pranay. In explaining Omar Marmoosh in one minute you have used the names of Thierry Andre and Lionel Messi. Pranay: Ha Ronaq: Verified city fan! Amogh: For Omar Marmoosh. Stream? Yes. Pranay: And Richard listen in one sentence. And Richard listen as well. Amogh: We thought that United fans are delusional. But here, delusion is different level. The stream has started. 5 Pranay: No, think that's one goal. Amogh: minutes. Omar Marbush has been compared to Messi and Andre. This is going Ronaq: Hehehehehe Amogh: to be a great stream. Pranay: But I mean, no, no, but I think that goal, you know, the long ranger goal he scored, think he scored it against Bournemouth. If you remember that Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: literally reminds me of that onry long range goal, you know, which he scored against United. So I think that was the parallel comparisons like I wanted to do. Amogh: Similar, Maitland Niles also scored a long range goal Now he Maitland Niles. Pranay: Anyway, there is no refund Ronaq: you Pranay: or receipts for, you know, both of the people. So I'm happy. And we got Amogh: No, no, that is fine. Pranay: Enzo for that money. So Enzo was practically fee free for us for that money. Amogh: As United fans, we can many things but the scam nature is to scam in This is of different level. Because, Hansal Mehta, what Harshad Mehta's series, what Telgi's series, Sahara's series, season 4 Man City Chelsea should be the part of the scam. Scam 2026. Ronaq: And in Pranay: You Ronaq: Tottenham Amogh: See for every con there needs to be a victim, for every successful con. Ronaq: They paid 152 CITI and 75 is still with Pranay: But I really like, see the problem lies with you, man. mean, if we, Amogh: 100 % Pranay: we, if we had Rashford now, we would have sold him for 70 million to Barcelona. If Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Pranay: we had Anthony, we would have scored him, you know, for, we would have sold him for like a hundred million to Betis. So it's not the problem. You know, we had Reinders, Arsenal even did the scam, man. This, this sold it Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: sold martinelli to, you know, Saudi, Shabdam to Saudi. For us Reinders. Amogh: But what is of your beauty? Tell me that. like what? How do you do it? Because... It's good, good. No, but Pranay: good lawyers and accountants. Ronaq: You Amogh: let's talk about the Derby. That's where we start off. Pranay: Yes. Amogh: A 10-man Manchester City beating Man United. A 10-man Manchester City for about 70 to 75 minutes beating Manchester United 1-0. Pranay: Yeah, 70 minutes. Amogh: Just shambolic by you right, like that performance was embarrassing especially at Old Trafford in a Derby game. just embarrassing. I the Overlap, Roy Keane must be having a heart attack right now. you know somebody please check up on Roy Keane's health. Because it was just so poor, so poor. Ronaq, what else can you say? Ronaq: It was, you know, honestly, opening couple of minutes were fine. 20 minutes, on the 23rd or 25th minute, Fordham's red card came. Which was Amogh: Hmm. Ronaq: very weird honestly. red card initially, I was red but the ref gave a direct red. And then the game changed. Like even Mareshka after the match in the interview, post-match interview Amogh: Mmm. Mmm. Ronaq: he said, the red card obviously changed the game for us. You know, Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: our plan went out of the window. And then he immediately said that United is such a brilliant team. Pranay: You Ronaq: On, on, no, no, I mean, wait for it. He didn't troll us. He's like such a brilliant team in transitions. And after the red card, the transitions were gone. They Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: had the ball all the time and they couldn't do anything with it, basically. And which is so true. Like it's that's a 100 % Amogh: Absolutely correct, it is very true. Ronaq: perfect breakdown. And, sorry, go ahead. Amogh: We were talking about this in the previous episode only that United just likes to make shit difficult for ourselves. Like the games that we perform well in are the games that we go one nil down. So when you give red card to the opposition our brothers are so confused as to what to do. Guys, the advantage is with us already. How do we capitalize on this? Ronaq: At 85th minute, when we are 1-0 down against 10 Man City who have been 10 men since the 23rd minute, we were playing like we had another 90 to go. There was no urgency. These guys didn't Amogh: You Pranay: you Ronaq: even the time. What this? We and play today. That's all. Fucking idiots. Amogh: Correct. Let's talk about the red card that was the first big talking point. Pranay, was it a fair red card for Ford and New Think? Because there has been a lot of talk and of course we'll get to this in detail as well but there has been a lot of talk in the English media about Bruno Fernandes's behaviour and how it was Pranay: Yeah. Amogh: very very unbecoming of a Manchester United captain. Because of course United's negative PR is still on. But was it a... did you think it was a fair red card as a city fan? Pranay: was it a fair red card? 100 % man. mean, you can't just kick, you know, intentionally to any player, you know, even whatever reason it might be. Amogh: Hmm. Pranay: So was it a fair card? Yeah. think there is no, absolutely no city fan calling out saying that ford in correct card was not, you know, justified. was justified a hundred percent. But, on the other hand, like that is where it felt very sketchy or, know, the, reason why it was so controversial was the fact that Bruno hit Ford in twice before Ford and reacting to that. And Bruno literally got nothing for that. Like Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: he, he just, he was like, you know, I'm, doing nothing. So Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: that is, that is what I felt was controversial was like, see Ford and the reaction was, would say not justified. Even McGuire tried to do that. You McGuire Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: was trying to send Enzo also like they wanted us to do linemen. Like he was like, he was poking, you know, I don't know if it was 80th minute or, know, something like Amogh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Ronaq: Yeah, in the D. Pranay: Harry Biggles like, let me try, you know, we have done, we have made them 10 men. can try to make them nine men now. Let's Amogh: Yeah, that's the only way we'll get an advantage. Pranay: go. But Enzo didn't respond to that. And it was very surprising because if anyone asked me, you know, if there is any buzzer that is happening, who is the player to be sent off, know, Amogh: Exactly. Pranay: odds to actually being sent off in a Derby game at a heated moment that Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: has to be Enzo Fernandez. So I was Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: very shocked that why is this guy having his calm, you know, like, Amogh: You Pranay: going down, he's very calm and, Forden like, think that was very stupid from him. I think Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: if he would have tried to make more out of it, the VR would have intervened on that. And, if you would have acted the way Bruno acts, know, in the entire, in the entire game or the way he generally tries to do that, which I have nothing, you know, that's part of the game. A lot of players do that too. You know, we had relish of, you know, sort of player to have that act, earlier to been set pieces and all that. It's all part of the strategy, which I completely agree. But if we, if Forden would have tried to get more out of him, then I think Ford is a Fernandez would have been the one probably being sent off because I just don't know where the VR was because he, the second time when he kicked the ball, the ball was nowhere in the play. Like the ball was already Ronaq: Yeah. Pranay: out and he literally like in Forden in the hips. So that Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Ronaq: Yeah. Pranay: is something which I, you know, I was like, know, this, this is dodgy as hell. Amogh: But I'll tell you what I thought about it. feel like yes, Bruno also kind of goaded Foden into making or giving a response and Pranay: reaction. Amogh: a reaction. But I don't think he ever actually kicked Foden. Because if you see when the tackle happens, he does go to kick in the direction of Foden. But then stops, like he hits his foot on the ground. So I don't think there was contact made with Foden. with his right foot. And then he uses his left foot to kick the ball away from the other side. Which is when Foden thinks that this guy is just... down on the floor and this guy is still like going for it. And so he kicks out. So Ronaq: Hmm Amogh: if... And VAR did look at it. It's not like VAR didn't see Because the red card, obviously always intervenes to cross check. So VAR Pranay: Yep. Yep. Amogh: did see it. And as a part of that check, Bruno's conduct was also... I'm pretty certain it was checked. So because he didn't make any connection with Ford and I think he got away, which I think is the right call. Ronaq: So know, one more thing is that Bruno, even though he might have been like, you know, playing on this, but he was at least showing that he's going for the ball and going for the play. But Forden's reaction was completely on Bruno. And then that changes the narrative. Like then, you know, Amogh: Yeah, completely on the player. Yeah. Yeah. Ronaq: that is an immediate, they have to come and stop it and kind of make a decision on it. But I mean, this is... Amogh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, Just, no, there's no words. Because that is what ruined the game for United. So, in the first half also, after City go down to 10 men, United were nowhere. They didn't capitalize in the first half at all. Second half is when they started piling on the pressure a little bit. Because I'm pretty sure Carrick must have told them in the break that make use of the advantage, we have the players, their backs to the wall now, keep attacking and doing all of that. But just the number of misplaced passes, just the sloppy nature of overall play. Like you were that in the 85th minute they still felt like had 90 minutes to go, that urgency was not there. That urgency was not there from the start. It was just like, pass, if someone takes it or not, we will figure it out. It was very very cold. Ronaq: You know, like one thing I have to give credit to City is and specifically Geyi because he was the player who was called in for the half time interview. And Amogh: Mmm. Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: one thing which is very peculiar was his attitude towards the game like in half time and his team is one is like, you 10 men, you know, Manchester Derby. And the question was of course, like on the red card and he's like, you know, I don't care about that. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: I'm only focused on the next tackle and the next half and Amogh: Yes. Ronaq: what we're going to be able to do in Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: the next half and that is Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: a mentality that is fucking goated like you know they Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: couldn't care less about the circumstances Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: and they wanted to do whatever they could. They got lucky with the offside goal which was given a goal but that is what you get when they fucking took to the game and Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ronaq: United were never on the races like you know even when city were 10 men it looked like they had 11 on the field and that is like the Amogh: Exactly. Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: biggest compliment to city and the biggest fucking dig to united because Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: how can you mess that shit up Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: I think I'll just ask one question to Rona Kinnamo. I think Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: just going back on the Bruno incident, like I just, was it a red card for Bruno? Of course it wasn't a red card because it was not sort of a, such a big incident to happen. Like Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: it's early into the game and you don't see like having that sort of impact, you know, even for a referee to call out having Ronaq: Okay. Pranay: such a, you know, time, give minutes, depend. Maybe If this would have been happening at the 80th or the 90th minute, maybe, you know, the situation would have been different, but the game was very early on. Like the kickoff happened like 20 minutes ago. Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: I just honestly feel that, the fact why everyone, even from like, from city perspective, I would say was Bruno not getting a yellow card as well. I think he at least deserved a yellow card VR checked on it. But I think that was the original foul that was committed by Bruno. Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: I think that was a show like. 100 % it would have been a yellow card for you. That is what I. Ronaq: So I mean, I don't think a VAR can intervene to call on a referee to give a yellow card in any offense. They can only step in for a red card and they Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: Yup, yup. Ronaq: can step in if the yellow card has been given wrongly like if Pranay: Wrongly, right. Ronaq: to a wrong player just a wrong mistake and identity happens then VAR can step in, you are meant to card this guy but they can Pranay: New beyond. Amogh: Yeah or Ronaq: never at least up until now. Amogh: if it's a yellow card and the VAR deems that it is more serious of an offense and needs to be upgraded to a red card. But to give Ronaq: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Pranay: Right. Right. Amogh: a yellow card VAR can't come in. Pranay: No, no, Ronaq: And Pranay: so that is Ronaq: in the start it was Bruno was like, you know, wincing on the floor and crying and then the referee immediately from referees point of view. It was just that Foden has fouled Bruno and it's a kick up and needs to be sent off the. Yeah, exactly. Pranay: They actually showed the ref cam as well. And he had clear, Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: you know, sort of clear view. So. Amogh: anyone understand Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: that ref cam? When I was it, I thought you are too Ronaq: It was very dodgy. Amogh: far, Michael Oliver, too far, what did you If you a buffalo, then... Ronaq: Michael O'Hara was away, apart from him being so far away in that incident, he obstructed the play six fucking times. Amogh: Somebody Pranay: You Amogh: get Michael Oliver a football jersey, like not a ref jersey, a team jersey. clearly to play So, too much, too much. Ronaq: Like 6 times is too much in a game. I have not seen that. Pranay: He created more touches than Bruno in the entire game for Amogh: You Pranay: that matter in the 90 minutes. He wasn't even supposed to the ball but apparently he had more touches than Bruno. Key touches is the word. Ronaq: you Amogh: Yeah, Key touches, absolutely. Yeah, don't, I feel like, I mean, there were attacking threats from United. I don't think we should, we should shy away from Pranay: 100 % Amogh: saying that there were attacking threats. It's just that we were so unlucky in front of goal. The Woodwork was hit, what, two, three times? Rashford hit it, Rashford hit it once, Ronaq: Twice, Mino. Amogh: Mainu hit it once. And it's just such bad luck because Speaking of Rashford for example Ronaq: Even the last, sorry to cut you with the final embermer chance also, one on one with the goalkeeper, he shoots right at the keeper. Amogh: Yeah, he yeah like if there's one thing that we have realized with Donnarumar's career at Man City is that he is a world-class goalkeeper who can very easily be beaten which is a very weird thing to say. Right, like Pranay: Yeah. Amogh: if you at Manuel Neuer, it to score Pranay: Yeah, not maybe it is. True. Amogh: Donnarumma, a world class keeper and score So it's very weird. But Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: when you Uriated going up against Donnarumma, we will make... No bro, we will handle You to world class, We will make you world class, bro. Ronaq: Yeah, Donner has been shit this season. Like, he's been really bad. Amogh: Absolutely terrible. Pranay: Yeah. But for Donnaroma, I feel the context for that is that that kid is literally playing Darby since he was 15 or like 14 years old. So, so Amogh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pranay: he sort of out of all the people knows how to perform in, you know, Darby. So, so bad luck to United for that, that you got to keep up only steps up Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Pranay: during Darby. Because he's played one of the most, if you, Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: if you ask like real, you know, old football fans, they'll obviously say like the Italian Darby's are the most fears because he's literally Milan and all of that. Amogh: Yeah, Yeah. Pranay: So that kid in the Z is like, is nothing, this is Manchester. I'm Amogh: What is this Manchester Derby? What is this? Pranay: just and coming to Amogh: What do you mean the fans don't send you death threats? This doesn't happen? I can walk the stadium? There won't be flares thrown at me? Where Pranay: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ronaq: hahahahah Pranay: There won't be players thrown at you. Amogh: the police? Where is the riot police? Why? And you call this a derby? Pranay: You Amogh: Let's go to Rashford for a second because Rashford was one of the better performers in this United team. And again, I find it very surprising to say that. Purana, you mentioned that if Rashford was playing for Man City, he would have been sold to Barcelona for 70 million just yet. Pranay: 100%. I absolutely believe it. Amogh: The only silver lining that we have as United fans is that okay, from the time that he has been reintegrated into this United team, he has shown some intent. This seems like a slightly different Rashford. He's not lazy, he's tracking back, he's putting in the tackles, he's pressing high up as well. He's creating chances for others and for himself. And at the end of the day, what more can a coach or a fan ask from a player? Right? Goal? Ayegaon sir. And it genuinely felt like the Manchester derby at Old Trafford would have been the perfect setting for Rashford to get on the score sheet again, score for United. It would have been the perfect narrative, but it just did not work out. Pranay: I think for Rashford, feel for United, I think he was one of the best players on the pitch hands down because Amogh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pranay: the, the, the times of like, whenever there was an attack that was happening on the left, Rashford was like, you know, zoom, zoom, you know, is this like trying to get ahead of Gahey every time. And Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: every time he had the ball, like those runs and especially like those crosses, it felt like, know, that United can actually score. So, also like, think the closest that United would have gone apart from if you take out that boom incident, then I think that was rash for taking that, you know, free kick, which hit the woodwork. So, Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: Yeah. Pranay: I think that like Hansi flick name, I'll score, you know, put a some job at a cake. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: You know, one thing I feel for Rashford is, he's obviously become a very good player. He's kind of matured in his decision making. He understand that Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Ronaq: he has to track back as a responsibility to the team as opposed to couple years back where he was, you know, maybe under the influence of Jaden Sancho. But Amogh: Yeah, yeah, 100 percent. Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: now, now he's obviously a much better player and weirdly it feels that the other players around him are not up to his level. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: and are not able to match his speed, not able to match his intent. For some reason, feel Mbomu has become so slow, he's just not able to get to the end of the ball. And two years back, he was like an electric winger in Brentford. Even Kunia, Amogh: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah. Ronaq: three steps in and then he's falling all over the ball. I'm just Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: not able to understand what is happening to the United attack, but Rashford is definitely a standout. Amogh: dashboard is. Pranay: But just one question I'll add you like as a rival, when I was watching Cunha, I think he was very much sort of impatient or what do you like? I don't have the right word for it, you know, like he was like, he, he, he had, he had good touches. Like when you, when you look Ronaq: Hmm. Pranay: at the, you know, when you, when I was looking at the game, he had decent, but I don't know why he was like trying to sort of become Omar Marmush and try to score outside the box. You know, there are two, three shots that he tried, which, you know, got deflected. Amogh: One minute, so by extension are you saying that Mateusz Kunia is also as good as Thierry Henry and Lionel Messi? But you compared Omar Pranay: I compared him to Omar Marmush for taking this path. Amogh: Barbus to the other two, no? So by association it should be the same, right? Pranay: you Amogh: What Ronaq is saying is correct, I don't get what is happening with Kunia because when Kunia came last season, Kunia was so good. as that dynamic attacking threat where he would carry the ball, would release the ball to the right players, would take on defenders, would track back as well. I feel somewhere him and Rashford playing together is not compatible. I have a sinking feeling that that is the case. And Carek may need to try using only one of them on the pitch at a time. Maybe that is the answer because a lot of times I noticed in that game in the derby Rashford and Cunha were taking up similar spaces and it was just not gelling and I don't think between the two of them also they've created that partnership yet. I Ronaq: Hmm. Amogh: don't think they've learned how to play with each other just yet and of course we're only four weeks into the season so there is still a lot of football to be played and hopefully as United fans we can just pray that that connection is made sooner rather than later. But as of now, the way I see it, feel like Kuhnia and Rashford are not compatible. So. Ronaq: You know, one thing I was very happy to see, mean, in all the bad narratives was I liked Carrick substitutions. They were all positive. I didn't think that, you know, we'd be seeing Cesco, Cunha, Embermo, Rashford, Bruno all together on the pitch at the same time. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: But, you know, he did those substitutions, got those players in. We didn't create enough chances. As soon as Cesco comes, the crosses into the box are obviously Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: zero. Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because, because, Ronaq: which is so fucking frustrating. But I think... Amogh: because Dorgo and Dalló have forgotten how to cross. Dalló has forgotten how to play football. That was the worst performance I've seen Dalló Ronaq: Hello? fuck. Amogh: do. And like, what was, what was, Pranay: You're going to be destroyed, Amogh: what was really sad was you had Diego Dalló having the worst game as a right back of his life. And on the other end for City, Mathias Nunes had a fucking banging day. Pranay: Yo bro, Ronaq: Nah. Amogh: Like Pranay: that Amogh: everybody will Pranay: guy. Amogh: talk about the Haaland goal, everybody will talk about fucking Elliot Anderson in the midfield and Enzo. Mateus Nunez Pranay: Yeah. And so, Don Roma. Amogh: is right back, fucking solid in the derby. Ronaq: But he was solid across last season also. Like he's just been an unsung fucking solid right back. And Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: you know, even Pep when Pep started playing him at the right back, he in Pranay: Right. Ronaq: couple of interviews after like, you know, one of his good performances, he said that I keep telling myself I'm not a right back. I'm a right winger, but the team wants me to play at right back. So I'm going to play at right back, but he's Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: such a good player for the team. Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Pranay: Yeah. You know, the rise or region, whatever you want to call it. think that's been fabulous because Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: I remember the first two seasons when we got him from wolves. Like there was a lot of slander that happened, you know, because I mean, firstly, like he was, I don't think so. He himself believed in that, you know, what pep saw in him because he was brought in as a winger himself. And he was in Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: the even then you look up to him, at his world's days. And he was very good at it. Like he had blistering place at that time. But then when he became like, you know, we have, I think that also lies to the fact that we had a lot of wingers, you know, midfielders in that time. And there was nowhere that could like, you can't compete, let's say, Bernard, like Bernardo, doku, know, even at the left, right, wherever you want to put him. there is no way you can put him above Semenyo or whatever the one or two players that we have in Amogh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pranay: the last year. He cannot stand nowhere a chance to even start above them. So it's better. I think whatever Pep saw in him and, You know, he's been fabulous. I completely agree on the fact that people only were talking yesterday about, know, the goal scoring, Don Roma incident, Ford and instant, but very few people called out known as us. What a game that he had. think it was unplayable yesterday. Amogh: Superb! Fabulous, fabulous game. But let's talk about the goal because that is what everybody is talking about. Everybody wants to discuss because lots of controversy about the Harland goal. terrible play by United to let India A carry the ball. Like to lose possession and have India A go on goal. A, just criminal by United. Two, fantastic finish by Harland. Ronaq: Yeah. Hmm. Amogh: What happened your dinner? because this was a lengthy VAR check. Was it offside or not? And I need somebody to fucking explain the offside rule to me. We have Nathan also on the stream. Nathan, your family dinner? Nathan: Yes. I have cancelled not going. decided football means more to me than my Pranay: I'm Nathan: Nay Raj Moodne. I'm like nah I'll go. What's up boys? Happy Ganeshuti Amogh: Amazing. Amazing. Nathan: firstly. Pranay: Yes. Ronaq: Happy Ganesha Thurthi boys. Amogh: Happy Ganesha Turthi. Nathan: Yes to everyone celebrating and secondly, yes, that was offside, but I'm so happy City one. Ronaq: Hehehehehe Amogh: Please someone explain to Roder, Nathan: Ha ha ha. Amogh: you seem to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to football. Ronaq: I'm you thing just if you can. If you can like display the image I've shared on WhatsApp, if there's any chance. So Amogh: Keep talking, I will set up It some time. Ronaq: I mean, basically, if there's a clear attempt to play the ball, which is close when the action impacts an opponent or the ball. then that has to be an offside. If the player is offside and he's impacting the ball, impacting the play or impacting the player who is involved in the play, then it has to be called offside, which is what it obviously was. And Amogh: Hmm. Ronaq: it was just an howler from the fucking refereeing team. And United always gets to the dirty end of the barrel. But when we fucking conceded this goal, I immediately thought of the goal we scored against them couple of seasons back with the Bruno and Rashford thing. It was a fucking Pranay: Yes. Nathan: Yeah. Rashford and Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: carbon copy. Even that goal was given, which in hindsight Pranay: You Ronaq: was the wrong decision. And even this goal was given, which was the wrong decision. So even if you see the last Amogh: I mean, yeah. Ronaq: line in this explanation, making an obvious Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: action, which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball. which is exactly Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: what happened because he leapt in front of the ball. He dived in front of the ball and didn't touch Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Ronaq: the ball obviously, but that impacted Martinez and gave Haaland the Amogh: Yeah. Pranay, any thoughts? Pranay: I was bro. mean, was ranting throughout the game that how would they go to the Amogh: Hehehehehe Nathan: Ha ha ha. Ronaq: You Pranay: car? I couldn't care less when the goal was given. I, so when I saw Amogh: of course. Pranay: it immediately, was like, this shit. You know, like we got a goal. Like I don't, Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: I don't want to go to integrity drawing the line. The moment Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: Michael Oliver pointed to the spot, I was like, go. Amogh: Haan chalo! Ronaq: Yeah. Pranay: I don't care why they it Ronaq: You Pranay: why Enzo is why is from Because at the first incident, obviously it looked like clear offside, like the moment when they were, they Ronaq: I'll say, yeah. Nathan: Yeah. Pranay: across the Harland was like, he was miles offside. It looked like when the second angle was shown, he was miles offside. So I was like, okay, offside. But then there was like this lengthy check that happened. like they then started showing randomly Enzo Fernandez's play. So I was like, bro, what is happening? then when Michael Oliver really pointed at the spot, I was like, I don't care. The goal is given. Let them figure out whatever happened. Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: then after the three hours, the match was done. They had a Ravikishan moment of like system ko message aaya hai ki, you know, Amogh: You Pranay: jo goal bhi raha hai, aapko turan aapke desh ke duty pe jaat. Amogh: you Ronaq: Hehehehehe Nathan: Ha ha ha. Amogh: Dude, I feel like the fact that money follows Ronaq: you I feel like money follows brother. Money follows. Pranay: You Nathan: Nice. Amogh: But Pranay: You Amogh: if only a certain sport, court can follow the money I think that would be more important But I feel like the fact Ronaq: Hehehehehe Amogh: that the referees association, the PGMOL or as they are called now pro-ref they have actually Nathan: Mm. Pranay: Mm-hmm. Amogh: You can't even imagine him being anointed but he was anointed and the pro-ref body has said that it was an error of judgement, the on-field call should have stood and they should have only asked Michael Oliver to look at the television Ronaq: on field review. Amogh: for review. And if that was the case, he would have probably stuck to his own decision. But man, just such a fucking gut punch because... The problem is not that the VAR was bad and the goal should not have stood. The problem was that how the fuck did 11 man united even let a 10 man city get into that position. Nathan: Yeah, dude. Pranay: Yeah. Nathan: United scored on what sorry, City scored on the sixtieth minute, if I'm not sure. Around that time. Sixty yeah. Ronaq: Yeah, around 60-60-50. Pranay: Exactly. Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Nathan: Wow. That's your thirty five minutes including extra time. Amogh: Forget that, 70 minutes since they were down to 10 men. you doing? We are second Pranay: You Amogh: half team, we are second half United. We are one nil down in first Nathan: Yeah. Amogh: half, then winning in second half United. That's the full name of this football club. Ronaq: I think we need 180 minutes per game. Amogh: 100 % 100 % I feel Nathan: Mm minimum. Alinak. Amogh: like we need guaranteed 3 points per game If then 1 point less but 3 points If 2 points. It should this I'm honestly, I'll tell you what Nathan: Ranok Yum sorry. Amogh: I'm just tired I'm tired of the discourse around Manchester United I'm tired of United fans I'm tired of United rivals I'm tired of United's team No man, I every 4 games into the league Ronaq: Four games into the league. Four games into the season. Amogh: I'm guilty of it. I the to switch, I very proud. But now seeing this, I'm like everybody is saying they are the worst team. Bruno is Karek. Amoremi was I people I'm like you guys football. You are simpletons. F**k you guys. Pranay: Mogue is running out of energy. Nathan: Among I relate, man. I relate. I relate. Ronaq: I'm sending mid game. Nathan: Except our worries, our our worries are different. I was just gonna say that. Amogh: Yeah. Nathan: I was just gonna say that. Amogh: Nathan said take Jeremy Frimpong I said no, that too bad day Crazy, crazy Ronaq: I said, it the it will come. Nathan: From Fong Bill. Amogh: stuff like it was, it was, it was. Nathan: It was an entertaining match though. Like it was it was, I won't lie. Ronaq: It was... Nathan: I was I was hooked from the I so bef I so I started watching the game just from the fiftieth minute upetora. And I'm like, okay, nice. And it was nice. I do it how y'all didn't score one goal at least here. Actually wait, sorry, Amogh: I didn't... Nathan: I take the I take that back. I take that back. I take that back. My team drew versus who we Amogh: It's 35 minutes, Nathan! Nathan: played. Who we played versus fuck yeah, I Amogh: 35 Ronaq: BULUM! Nathan: Whoever Liverpool played against? okay. Amogh: minutes. 35 minutes we've been online for. We've spoken about why we drink score in grave detail. You're late. Nathan: Okay, I'll watch Ronaq: Okay, now you tell Nathan: I'll watch the Ronaq: me why didn't Liverpool score? Pranay: You Nathan: Yeah. So Florian Words No, it wasn't his fault. It was his fault. I don't know. Aredu. Hamo given I'm tired man Amogh: hahahaha Nathan: It's that easy for me to why didn't they score well tired bro Amogh: This is... is... Astute analysis only on the corner flag. We are tired bro. Why Liverpool? We Ronaq: you You Amogh: tired. Ronaq: Hehehehehe Pranay: Nathan is just quoting his ex boss who's running out of energy, man. Amogh: Yeah. Nathan: Yeah, I this reminds me of that Salman tweet, no? It's done bro. Irayola, it's done bro. Karak, it's done bro. Amogh: It's done bro. Raid's done. Raid. Ronaq: Hehehehehe Pranay: Thank Nathan: But Amogh: But... Nathan: I think I watched the Liverpool game, of course. what went wrong? Well, yeah, so I think Sobosly needs to either play right back or needs to be teamed with McAllister in midfield. This Gravenburge thing is not working right now. this He played he played ACM only and Amogh: We are what Shobos Ronaq: See ya. Nathan: Nah, it just didn't work, dude. I think Graven Birch he he wants the freedom himself and And I I think McAllister should have started this match. I think that would have made a big difference. Amogh: Hmm Nathan: And so Isak Yeah, dude. He scored a great goal versus Atleti, by the way. That was a screamer. That was like annual Amogh: Give him a contract. He is feeling very sad. He scored in the Champions League. You contract now. Yeah, I know. Nathan: season McAllister goal. You know, one must Pranay: Thank Nathan: goal he'll score and then he'll come back and do it again after like two months, three months. Ronaq: But I saw the highlights for the Liverpool game. Isaac had couple of good chances. think he was a little unlucky. Nathan: He did. He did. He did. Also Bakola wasn't really getting a lot of service so to say. Like he felt like he was out of the game and Munoz should have started as a superstar by super sub. I think Gakpo should have at least started this match. A lot of tactical errors and stuff like that. Ronaq: But Gack was just coming off of an injury, a small minor injury or something he had. Nathan: That's that's why, that's why. And plus Kiesa be option, who who can we my god. Okay, last last season versus Vermouth versus Vermouth, first first game of season. And my god. This guy, what's his name? Kostas Simikas. Amogh: Was there ever an option for you? When was KSA ever an option? Has ever happened in the history of Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: FIFA! If FIFA, it's Fucking PESI! Amogh: Hahaha Nathan: Y'all give us Luke, Shaw, whoever, y'all take semicas also. Just I katamoga. I don't know what to Like this is this is where I'm like this is where I was like, nah, I miss Robertson here. Like letting go Robo was a big Ronaq: If we a better team, we have Amogh: Yes, isn't it? Nathan: mistake now. So I that's that's gonna it's gonna it's gonna Amogh: Yeah. I mean, it. Ronaq: But I mean, when Robertson was there, that time you guys were also criticizing him, you know, now he doesn't have the legs to play this style of football. Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Nathan: But compared to Semekas, Pranay: Yeah. Nathan: dude, if Robertson's on a wheelchair, he'll still play better. Ronaq: Hehehehehe Nathan: Yeah. Amogh: I said the start Liverpool fans are in for a world of hurt in this first season. think till game week 8. Nathan: I agreed. Amogh: That was the thing with Bournemouth. Till first 8 games he had a problem. Nathan: Hmm. I think maybe Bola Tana. That's the game. Ten games I'll give Iraula to figure out what's working, what's not. Ten games in the Premier League specifically. And then Amogh: Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Nathan: then I don't know. Yeah. Nah, you know how so Ronaq: Thank Nathan: when it says the Karabao Cup, right? For Amogh: Hmm. Nathan: all of you watching this, you heard it your first. Spurs will score their first goal in what 5-6 games versus Liverpool Pranay: you Nathan: at Anfield. And they'll score two goals. One or two goals. Chill. Not more than two, of course. And there is a high possibility that Liverpool could be eliminated, could be out of the Carabakh Cup versus Spurs. This Spurs who spent hundred, eight hundred, whatever, and might be out. Amogh: I mean, fair enough. I feel like this is bound For narrative's point of view, Ronaq: Mm-hmm. Amogh: is to happen. But Spurs have forgotten. Pranay: Yeah, classic sports. Amogh: They have forgotten how to score a goal because again, Everton, against an Everton team... Nathan: It's okay, bro. Everyone forgets then they come to Anfield. Amogh: But this is Spurs' four Premier League results. 3-0 loss to Brentford, 2-0 loss to Newcastle, 0-0 draw with Forest and now 0-0 draw with Everton. Four matches, zero goals. This is the first time in Tottenham's history that they have failed to score in each of their opening four league matches. They have gone 400 Nathan: Wow. Amogh: minutes, more than 400 minutes, Premier League minutes without scoring 300 million plus spend, zero goals. Nathan: Nam, that's just I miss Anj now. Amogh: I think the question is when is Deserby going to be sacked? I don't think it is about if Deserby is going to be sacked anymore. I think we need to start taking bets on when. Ronaq: I think, think, I very smart. I think he's playing it very smart. four games may it na niche kar diya na standard. Jitna loka hype tha na expectation itna Amogh: Hmm. Pranay: Expectation. Ronaq: niche kar diya na ki ab ek win bhi aajay kar la people be like, f**k yeah, this is how beast the man. Pranay: Deserve in. Amogh: So many injuries in Spurs. Nathan: Hmm. Yeah, man. Ronaq: So you know one thing I was seeing in the latest game the Spurs vs. Who was it man? Nottingham was it nottingham Yeah, yeah, the zero zero. Amogh: yeah the 00 or yeah is forest yeah. Ronaq: Yeah, so Mathias Fernandez the 85 Amogh: Hmm. Ronaq: million man who United were obviously after Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: He might have the quality But he doesn't have that killer instinct in him Like a couple of times he had the ball right in front of him. He took one touch. He was just on the edge of the deep. Any fucking 85 million midfielder when they're not scored a goal, you want them to fucking take a shot. And he Nathan: Mm. Ronaq: just wouldn't. He just wouldn't. would fucking, you know, take two, three touches and lose the ball. And that is where like, you know, you, just need that instinct and that confidence in your abilities that, you know, fuck the 85 million price tag, but you're in front of the goal. Your team Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: hasn't scored in four matches. You get a shot, fucking take the shot. Amogh: And this is, I feel like a lot of this has to do with Dazerby. Because he is Nathan: Mm. Amogh: not the manager who can unblock these players like he himself says they need to do. If your players are going through such a bad spell in front of goal, such a bad spell overall, all over the pitch, you need a manager like an Ole Gunner Solskjaer. Alright, maybe bad example, but you need a Solskjaer, you need a somewhat like a Carrick sort of manager. Who is going to put an arm around the players shoulder and be like, you fine, you can You have before You know how to play this game. You know how to be good at this game. Just forget everything and start again and do it. They need that but Dzerbi is not that. Dzerbi is a very volatile manager. is like, you a fool. Everything here is a problem except me. Injuries are a problem. Late signings are a problem. You don't have mentality, that's a problem. And that's never going to get them out of this funk. had spurs siren Deserby at the end of last season was an emergency move because they were fighting relegation and they needed Pranay: Yeah. Amogh: a big name manager to just get them to pull their socks up, which he did, fair enough. But I feel like they made a mistake by giving him a long term contract, which I think Deserby also did not want. If I'm not mistaken, if I remember the news from that time correctly, I feel like Deserby's negotiations with Spurs also went on for longer because he was angling for a short term contract for last season only. That I will save guys and then I will I long term Nathan: Hmm. Okay, huh? Amogh: but they were like no we want long term solution. We will do whatever you want. They convinced him. But that was again, again a poor managerial appointment from Spurs. Ronaq: I mean see I still feel that the narrative in world football now can change very very quickly like you know if United hit the post two times and you know didn't score and now we're talking about how shit United is and how shit Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: our attack is if we just score one goal two centimeters here and there and we score that goal it's a one-all draw even though it's a shit result because we were 10 men like we were 11 men against 10 but the narrative completely changes exactly Amogh: Yeah, there is potential, there is promise in this team. Ronaq: So even the same thing can happen with spurs also like and you know goals once they start coming they start coming. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: It's just that so if they somehow manage to get through this part and maybe get someone who steps up and you know starts being a goal scorer for them although he did you know Desobi tried to put Dom Salamki in and shifted Marmush out to the left. He's trying his different different things, but he's just not getting lucky just yet and I think it'll come here. You can't You can't have a team as good as POS, at least on paper and then not fucking score Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: for so many games. So as Neethan Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: said, I can see Nathan: And field. Ronaq: them scoring at Anfield. Nathan: Hora, hora! Pranay: But for Spurs, feel, I think before the season started, think everyone probably out here would be rating them to at least finish top four. the amount of Ronaq: Hmm. Pranay: they got like what? Amogh: the kind of signings they did. Pranay: All to 12 players. think if I'm not mistaken, they did 10 plus signings and that too high profile. You're not talking about some random, you know, league ones, RC Menger signings. Like Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Ronaq: You Pranay: these are all high profile Premier league players that you're trying to get in. Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: I think honestly, firstly, like you rightly mentioned, think injury has been, you know, sort of the thing. But again, like, I feel the team itself is very new. Like if you're having at least 10 bunch of 10 players, you put them as a team together. It Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: takes some time at least for them to gel up together, right? To at least, know, everyone need to know what, what sort of role that they have. I think that is what they're struggling up with. And as Nathan summed it up perfectly, feel. The Liverpool game will be the one where they will click. Amogh: Lads, it's Liverpool! Nathan: Yes. Hey but if I'm not wrong I think Spurs are also playing Ronaq: You Nathan: United soon, Ronaq: you Nathan: right? I think when are they playing United? Pranay: Hahaha Ronaq: I don't know, I Amogh: Hogan! Ronaq: just look at the carabao cup and it's brightened up, I'm fucking shit scared. They've just scored five goals and they've... and even that... Amogh: Yeah, Five against Coventry. Mental. Pranay: you Nathan: One second, we'll play Brighton home or away. Home or away, Brighton? Amogh: What difference does How does it matter? And are 2 or 5? Ronaq: I don't Pranay: Yeah Nathan: Hey but prana I dude I wanted to ask Yeah Pranai Pranay: You Nathan: I wanted to ask you what are w what are your thoughts on City this season? Like do you do you see us do you see City winning the league or getting close to or top four top four for sure? Amogh: The city chat is Pranay: No, I'll just answer him. Yeah. Nathan: Okay, summarize in in one sentence for me only. Pranay: One sentence. In one sentence, think with the performance that we saw against United, at least Nathan: Potential. Pranay: potentially I feel Ronaq: Contenders Pranay: we or trophies this season. don't, I don't know which trophy, but season, I saw United versus Community Shield match, so I grabbed my I said, bro, our United banter is about to because the way we that goal, Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: all of them, you know, it felt like Arsenal would have 8-2 on us, 8-0 on our community shield. I mean, you look at the touches that players had, like the amount of chances that they missed in community shield. was like, what is happening, man? Like what Nathan: Mm-hmm. Pranay: is this? I you put 12th class kids on second class, they are playing a match So I was very skeptical at first and I was like, United banter. Nathan: Yeah. Pranay: But I think, yeah, Nathan: See the signings you guys made here. Pranay: but I think the signings and I feel like Nathan: I was Yeah. Pranay: he's more of a Rodney sort of a profile here. mean, he's good on the pitch, but there's a push player. They're not due to statement signing. I am. know, they'll be in the news for whatever reason. they, they thrive Nathan: Turn it on. Nice. Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: on that. So the signing of has really sort of, mean, I'm after match, Donnaroma, Gahee, Diaz, they're each other, they've kissed each other. I passion, I Enzo's a different level, which I didn't see. I the community shield match, it looked like Enzo, it's done bro. It was this for Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: You know, talking about Pranay: me. Ronaq: both Enzo's, like first of all, Enzo Nathan: Mm. Nice. Ronaq: Fernandez, he's an absolute rat and like, you know, if he's in your team, you love him. If he's against you, you hate him. And Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: Exactly. Yeah. Ronaq: he's just that kind of a player. And he was so good for City yesterday, he did everything perfect. He's not the biggest, he's not the tallest, not the strongest, but he held up the fucking ball. And Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: he has so much quality, he knows where to pass. And I think he's going to be a great signing for City. Pranay: Brutal interception man. The amount of interception I saw him having in the midfield. He was out of nowhere. Nathan: Yeah. Pranay: Coming out nowhere he was taking balls. So, I Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Pranay: think that was something incredible. I think that's... feel. Ronaq: And talking about the second Enzo, which is obviously a manager. I think one thing people forget is he was in Guardiola's title winning, treble winning team in the backroom staff. He Nathan: Yeah. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: not only Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: knows the club, he knows the players, he knows how Pep is ran this club. He knows the team inside out and the players know him. It's not that Amogh: Yeah. Yeah. Ronaq: they're suddenly waking up and then deserve in front of them and they don't know him and he doesn't know them. So there's Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Ronaq: a, there's already a camaraderie there. There's already a team of familiarity there and it's just about how and now Mareska obviously got so many players. I think City are obviously title contenders and as City and United know it is fucking hard to retain a title. City has done it four times which has never been done. So Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: I it's going to be a difficult task for Arsenal also because the first season is difficult but to retain it is even more difficult. So Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: City is definitely title contenders. Amogh: Let's talk about ASUS then. 2-0 victory over Sunderland which continues their perfect record in the Premier League. 4 wins out of 4. But Michael Arteta was still angry because of the penalty that Sunderland got. Enzo Lefe stepped up for the penalty but David Raya saved it. Kudos to every FPL player who had David Raya in their starting lineup. 14 points. Was Praveen your team? man! Pranay: Yes. I don't overthink on goalkeepers. one goalkeeper and try to the whole season. That is David Raya. Amogh: Yes, and keep it the whole season. And David Raya is the keeper for sure. regarding the penalty, I am saying, Arteta was asked about it. He said he watched the incident 10 times and insisted it could never be a penalty in any context in any league. He such perfectionist. He is the Aamir Khan of football managers. Ronaq: That goal should Pranay: Yeah. Nathan: Mm-hmm. Ronaq: Then we would They full season last just like that. They are saying that they can't see. Amogh: See guys, Haram ball is good only when Nathan: Yes. Amogh: we do it. Haram ball against us is actually extremely Haram ball. Nathan: Yeah. Amogh: But yeah man, while it is going to be hard like you said Raunak for Arsenal to retain the title, the start has been very very good. And now they've got Gimaraes scoring as well. It's a good signing, he's getting on the score sheet. Ronaq: Start has been phenomenal. It was obviously like poetic for Bruno Guimares. He was an ex Newcastle player coming on in Sunderland, scoring Amogh: Mmm. Yeah. Ronaq: the winner, which is a banger from outside the D. He was Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Ronaq: getting booze when he was coming in the half time. Like, you know, he was subbed on during the half time and he was getting booze because he's an ex Newcastle player and there's obviously a rivalry there. But Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: it was poetic for Arsenal and for Guimares. And what a brilliant goal, yeah. What a brilliant goal. Amogh: Yeah. You know, that's the one thing, right? Like, we play football on turf. Like, Nathan plays, I play, Pranay, you played with us as well. Ronaq, I don't know if you play on turf or not, Ronaq: used to. Amogh: but you used to. So, we At some level, thought played football. And Ronaq: Hmm, of course. Amogh: we all want to do these things that, you know, actual pro footballers do. We can't This means, Pranay: Hahaha! Ronaq: Hey Amogh: who we Who St. Andrew's turf? We're five-a-side. Who is abusing Nathan: Suresh. Amogh: me? No, I am because Suresh hasn't got me the Gatorade Nathan: Exactly. Fasten up. Pranay: You Nathan: Shout outs Resh, by the way. Amogh: Shout out Suresh. Nathan: He Pranay has no idea about this gesture, no? Let it be. Amogh: Pranay has no idea about this gesture. Pranay: No. Amogh: Shall we quickly talk about Chelsea as well because the Chelsea game was also a fantastic one. I mean, we also spoke about Brighton 5-0 commentary, but Chelsea and Hull City, it was going to be the game where Hull City were going to concede. We knew that. We just didn't know how many and if they would come up with a win, but Hull City managed to keep their unbeaten record alive. Dude, like Man City, Arsenal, Hull City. Pranay: Yeah. Ronaq: No, no, Hull City. You know, Hull City, Amogh: Arslan have two cities to contend with in this title race. Which city will Pranay: It's a city thing. It's a city thing. Nathan: Ha ha ha. Ronaq: the game I saw against Chelsea, even though they considered they were very nice, you know, they were confident about their play. They knew this happens. They know they can concede a goal and it didn't like rattle them at all. Even though they hadn't conceded yet in the Premier League, it didn't Amogh: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ronaq: rattle them at all. They were at it. They got lucky with the second goal. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: But you know the entire game they were ready to catch Chelsea on the counter. Even right Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: around the 80th minute when it was 2-2 it was tied. There was a brilliant run from their left wing back called Giles and he put a what a beautiful ball he put in. It was on a plate for their striker or whoever it was for Hull City and they couldn't get to the end of it but they're playing really well. And one thing for Chelsea is they got an Emmy Martinez to be like a fucking top class World Cup winning goalie Amogh: Yeah, yeah. Ronaq: who's going to be like you know instant solution. And he's just gone shit. He's become the Onana at United. He was so bad yesterday. Amogh: Yeah, is, Pranay: Thank Amogh: is, is making, Emmy Martin is making Robert Sanchez look like a world class goalkeeper. Do know how tough that is? Ronaq: Literally, it was horrible. Amogh: Do you know how tough that is? Ronaq: You know, know, one shot like one shot was coming from outside the D, he went to grab onto the ball, it hit him on this chest on his stomach and then went towards the penalty spot and then he's scrambling. It was horrible. Amogh: Someone send him for eye test to GKB Opticals. You need to check if he is getting it right. Ronaq: You Pranay: you Amogh: I honestly feel like Chelsea is... It's a team in transition, And we hear this a lot about teams. you're a team in transition. New manager is a team in transition. I think Chelsea is the only team where even the owners are in transition. And by that I don't mean that Nathan: Yeah. Amogh: ownership is But the the owners... transfer policy is that is in transition. Managerial Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: appointment policy is that is in transition. So it is not just Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: manager imposing himself on a new squad, getting new players or any of that. Because the kind of transfers they've made, like we spoke about this in one of our earlier episodes. Dari Welbeck and Jordan Henderson have by Chelsea. Who would have thought? Like these are the kind of people, Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: Chelsea has bought Andre Santos from somewhere, Kendrick Paez, Mark Gew, who are players? They are... Nathan: Dude, they were even going for Wynaldum. Pranay: Hahaha Amogh: But Vinaldom Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: would still be one of those which is an experience. I am saying in the past they have brought these Achampong. Where Ronaq: What the... Achampong or whatever that guy's name is. Amogh: do they these They are not... Ronaq: You Amogh: going... They are looking at potential wonder kids And they are getting... They Pranay: You Amogh: are getting... We can make profit on Pranay: Moneyball. Ronaq: Sitting career mode, we 2-3 seasons like this, that who coming now? Amogh: Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if the scouting team at Chelsea actually uses Football Manager. Because we have seen Nathan: Mm-hmm. Amogh: some lower league teams have used Football Manager Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: as Pranay: Yeah. Amogh: an actual tool in their research, which is great Ronaq: Yeah. Amogh: because it is a fucking brilliant game. But Ronaq: it is. Amogh: I feel like Chelsea is also doing that, albeit doing it very badly. Ronaq: You know, talking about Chelsea, one thing that is Nathan: Hmm. From Ashimpong to Frimpong. Any pong any pong is a bad thing. Amogh: Yeah. Pranay: you Ronaq: really good for Chelsea is the resurgence of Cole Palmer. He looked like a different beast. If you see the assist for the second goal, the Jaupedro goal, he is shoving players and running at full speed and then falling over and passing the ball. You've not seen Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: that Cole Palmer last season. Amogh: Yeah. Ronaq: He was very thanda last season. Now he feels okay. Even he has a point to prove and he wants to show what Cole Palmer he is. Amogh: Yeah, absolutely. But very quickly before we wrap up, Ipswich Town also had a great result beating Crystal Palace 3-2 with Zion Fleming scoring a 90th minute winner for Ipswich. I am personally very happy about this because Leaf Davis on my bench with bench boost, bitches. Nathan: Shit. Let me see how many Pranay: you did the bench boost? Ronaq: Heavy. Amogh: Leave Nathan: points I've had. I mean I have busies. Amogh: Davis with an assist and a goal. Unfortunately 14 pointer. Ronaq: 14 pointer yeah Pranay: my bench how many points Ronaq: heavy heavy Nathan: Wow. Pranay: I got to move I got 80 Amogh: I am on 92 or something right now. With two players Ronaq: Oof. Pranay: YAR Amogh: to play in Newcastle vs Leeds. So I have Ronaq: Tonight, nice, yeah. Amogh: Vissa and Trafford in goal. Yes. Ronaq: Let's go lead screen sheet. I've got Muharremovic. Pranay: Man, I got, I had Davis as Nathan: Average points. Pranay: on my third bench and Josco audio Ronaq: You Pranay: in my second bench and they've combined for like 25 points. Amogh: you chips? Ronaq: Guardiola got the assist also, Yeah, heavy. Pranay: Huh? Yeah, I have like Amogh: Yeah, yeah, assistant clean sheet. Have you used your chips yet? You have two uses, no? Pranay: two drives in the bench, man. Like, damn. Not yet, not yet, not yet. I'm waiting for chips Ronaq: OHHHH Pranay: I use for double, like double game week only. that's Nathan: Mm-hmm. Ronaq: But where first half? Amogh: But where it the first half of the season? Pranay: Yeah, but yeah, Amogh: The rules have Pranay: know though, but, just feel, I'm a, I'm I'm convincing. But yeah, Joe Pedro was my captain. So that was good. Nathan: Mm, yeah Amogh: Right. Ronaq: Nice. I Captain Palmer was a horrible end minute switch. Pedro Palmer Pedro Palmer was Nathan: Yeah, I feel like Spurs right now. All of you have points. Amogh: What? Nathan: I have barely anything. Average average is 63 points. I am on average. 63. So bad. But I have one Amogh: What do you have? How much do you have? much is... And you are... Arre kya batte hai. Tike hai yaar, as long as you are not below average. Yeah. Pranay: Yeah. Wow! You are an expert, right? You didn't get relegated at least. Ronaq: Nice. Nathan: player left. I have Th. How Pranay: Visa. Nathan: do you pronounce his name from Newcastle? Malik Thiao. Yes. I have Amogh: Malik Malik Tiao Malik Tiao Alright on that note Ronaq: Malik, Malik Tiao. Amogh: it is time for us to say ciao to Malik Tiao haha hey Ronaq: Yeah! Nathan: Hey hey, on today's episode. Then next time I'll wear the black Ganji and come also, bro. It's it's a it's an upward trajectory, you know. See today I've I'm sh Ronaq: I have it too! I have too! I will same! Amogh: I can't Mere baas dey hain, mere baas dey hain. Nathan: slightly, you know, I'm showing the bracelet. Tomorrow I'll wear next Amogh: Huh. Pranay: Hahaha. Nathan: episode I'll wear the black Genji. Torah next after that I'll do my hair, Torah Theryanam types. Ronaq: Third episode, Bappi Lahiri. Pranay: Yeah. Amogh: Bye. Do anything but a car. That's all we ask from you. Till Pranay: Hahaha Nathan: Yes. Yes. Amogh: that moment, can whatever to but don't reach that level with brother. That's the only Nathan: Yeah. Amogh: thing. But yes, Nathan's name. All that note, it is time to end. Thank you so much everybody for watching and listening to Ronaq: Nathan Kenna. Amogh: this episode. If you'd like to get in touch with us, you reach us on our social media. 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So say bye, Pranay. Say bye. Say bye, bro. Say bye, Nathan. Say bye, Raunak. Visualize bye. And it's bye from me. Ronaq: Bye! Bye! Nathan: See you guys.