[00:00:00] Madrid Ior have been jadbians for the 15th time. Joe says, of development by chain. We didn't win in the world.
[00:00:04] But it's all right because we are here in your spotcast feed. Welcome to the corner flag on move and I'm Deshan.
[00:00:11] And I'm Kish!
[00:00:16] Second time lucky. We got it right. Yeah!
[00:00:20] Welcome to the show! Everybody we missed a week. We're so sorry that we missed recording last week.
[00:00:26] Because it was Mukesh Mangyunas but they're so happy but they delayed.
[00:00:29] I don't know if they are actually wishing you a happy birthday but I will.
[00:00:35] So, we are taking all the kids to them.
[00:00:37] I take your representative of the hold.
[00:00:39] Yes, yes. And considering we are in election time, we are in India.
[00:00:43] I think the representation of multiple people is the way to go.
[00:00:49] Yeah. I'm not cracking any election.
[00:00:52] No, no, politics jokes.
[00:00:54] We missed out on an award, but we want to be eligible for the next one.
[00:00:58] Not only our life.
[00:01:02] That is the bare minimum criteria needed to be eligible for the next one.
[00:01:06] I will only get confidence unless I won't get confidence until we make a deal with an arms dealer like.
[00:01:12] Oh, right.
[00:01:15] That's a big problem.
[00:01:17] I think politics.
[00:01:19] But yes, quick, quick, I guess.
[00:01:23] I guess.
[00:01:24] You should.
[00:01:25] But yes, quick, quick updates on that.
[00:01:28] Of course, as you may have heard from all our socials and all of that is that we were in the final three short list for the pod masters.
[00:01:37] In just that times, the pod masters awards.
[00:01:39] We were nominated in the best ports pod cast category.
[00:01:43] Unfortunately, we didn't win.
[00:01:45] I was there and we went to the fantastic event.
[00:01:47] We got fucking drunk because why not.
[00:01:51] But yeah, it was a fantastic event.
[00:01:52] Unfortunately, we did not win.
[00:01:54] But our cousin's from idea Bruce Studios, the inside line F1 podcast were the eventual winners.
[00:02:00] Congratulations to Somal and Pena, and all the gang.
[00:02:03] At inside line.
[00:02:05] Fun.
[00:02:07] Congratulations guys.
[00:02:09] We're not jealous at all.
[00:02:11] No, not all.
[00:02:12] F1's fun, yeah.
[00:02:14] Yeah, F1 is fun.
[00:02:15] Right.
[00:02:16] Yeah.
[00:02:17] People were saying that why does the podcast about cars?
[00:02:20] Go into a circle.
[00:02:21] You have to win this award.
[00:02:23] It's not a circle.
[00:02:24] Just come and open the sport there.
[00:02:26] Just exactly.
[00:02:27] Exactly.
[00:02:28] It's an ascar.
[00:02:29] Exactly.
[00:02:30] You guys are ascar right?
[00:02:31] Yeah.
[00:02:32] But yes, how is it going for you guys?
[00:02:34] I can't stand the fact that Prashan is supported the other team.
[00:02:38] That's okay.
[00:02:39] That's okay, guys.
[00:02:40] Humility and defeat guys.
[00:02:42] That's the name of the game.
[00:02:45] The Mukesh was happening.
[00:02:48] Where are you off to after recording today?
[00:02:50] Just tell our listeners about the absolute.
[00:02:54] Fuckery in scheduling that you have caused us.
[00:02:57] I'm going to the gym.
[00:02:59] 30.
[00:03:00] So, I thought it was okay.
[00:03:03] Wait, wait, wait.
[00:03:04] Let me give the listeners some context.
[00:03:06] Basically, we're recording.
[00:03:07] We're just going to give it a half a day.
[00:03:09] Evening 715 PM right now as we record this.
[00:03:13] We originally had the recordings at 4.8 PM.
[00:03:17] Then Mukesh tells us that he's going to the gym at 6.30.
[00:03:21] So, he's not going to be ready in time.
[00:03:24] He'll just about make it at 8.
[00:03:28] So, we're like, okay.
[00:03:29] Then he tells us that Mukesh now you can take over the story.
[00:03:33] That actually the gym sessions at 8.30.
[00:03:37] So, I forced everyone to change their schedules and come back and do it much earlier.
[00:03:42] Which is a good thing.
[00:03:45] So, that we can all finish the podcast early and go to where we respectively go.
[00:03:54] Basically, I have to go very early to the gym session because if we come late in the make me do burpees.
[00:03:58] I'd rather listen to Amogal Prashan yell at me than do extra burpees.
[00:04:02] Even though the intention is to get fit.
[00:04:04] So, you know what is going to happen?
[00:04:06] Are you heard of this fantastic American political term?
[00:04:10] I mean, the American, Churu, but they are also used in general world over in politics.
[00:04:16] This term is used. It's called filibuster.
[00:04:21] So, filibuster is what we're talking about.
[00:04:24] Whenever you have to let the person finish talking before you can take over and give your reply.
[00:04:33] So, if you look at the filibuster, which is they just talk about anything and everything just to kill time.
[00:04:40] So, Prashan, what you and I are going to do today is filibuster's up.
[00:04:44] It's far down to this spot.
[00:04:48] So, yeah, six paths might tomorrow.
[00:04:50] Yeah.
[00:04:51] Because I want Mukesh's gym to get him to do fucking 10,000 burpees tonight because for a 830 session he's come at 9.
[00:04:59] For her, he's like, listen to us. This is what Mukesh Manu like does, right?
[00:05:03] I think we started, if not at 7, can we start at 7, the exact moon, I have jimit 830. So, earlier the better.
[00:05:09] So, like bastard, if you come late for everything anyway, you can go late to the gym also.
[00:05:14] No, no, gym is you can't miss.
[00:05:17] Gym is, is a satanic institution that wants you to suffer.
[00:05:23] Yes, tell me more about your gym.
[00:05:26] What do you do at the gym? Tell me in grave detail.
[00:05:29] How about God? Let's get him up.
[00:05:33] Yeah, so in terms of getting to the football also, I feel like we're going to be talking about Champions League of course.
[00:05:38] We don't think we can get up at the FA Cup but we're also going to be talking about the AFL Championship, AFL League 1, league 2, nationally.
[00:05:47] For ISL, we'll talk about the AFL.
[00:05:50] Yeah, I'll talk about the AFL.
[00:05:52] Yes, clearly Mukesh has a redder on order. He has no idea what's happening.
[00:05:55] Yes, he has no idea.
[00:05:56] We're going to open the window on the side.
[00:06:00] No, why not? Let everyone know.
[00:06:02] No, no, fucker don't open any windows on the side because it didn't fucking go to the side.
[00:06:06] Yeah, I don't do that.
[00:06:08] No, but we are also going to talk about at Saint Andrew Stervin, Banner.
[00:06:12] There's a Mumbai Ring football tournament that is going on.
[00:06:15] We are going to discuss that also in depth detail.
[00:06:19] Of course, I'm all here for it.
[00:06:21] Yeah, so let's start off with that.
[00:06:24] Mukesh, what is happening with the indoor ring football tournament?
[00:06:27] St. Andrew Stervin.
[00:06:29] It's happening.
[00:06:31] That's a good start.
[00:06:32] Astute journalism.
[00:06:35] Any day, can I get a mint times of England?
[00:06:37] Is it a tea, a football reporter on the city beat?
[00:06:42] Give it to the given, there are five people reading.
[00:06:45] Hotacles, that's football.
[00:06:47] Okay, I should have aimed a little higher.
[00:06:49] Athletic are you guys looking for right?
[00:06:53] In total, I was exactly.
[00:06:55] But come on, our thought task, guys.
[00:06:57] It would be fun.
[00:06:59] But yeah, let's not with the main talking point that we missed last week.
[00:07:04] Very quickly, let's talk about the fact that United beat man city in the F.A.
[00:07:08] Kindle.
[00:07:09] People would have expected somebody like me or United friend to be ready to come and record.
[00:07:15] But Mukesh's birthday was more important.
[00:07:17] Correct.
[00:07:18] So we didn't end up recording.
[00:07:19] Also, Mukesh's girlfriend is given him a watch as a birthday gift, which is just such a poetic gift.
[00:07:25] This is a big time.
[00:07:27] Like now the time is on your wrist.
[00:07:30] At least now you can start showing up the things on time.
[00:07:33] Yeah, it comes with a high chance that he's probably going to forget to wear the watch.
[00:07:36] He's also seen a little behind.
[00:07:38] Why is it a very good possibility for that?
[00:07:40] I went to pick him up at his house while we were going to the award show.
[00:07:45] And I told him I am 10 minutes away.
[00:07:48] He's like, I am ready.
[00:07:50] Then I told him when I was 3 minutes away, I called him again.
[00:07:53] I'm 3 minutes away.
[00:07:54] Come down because it will take him roughly 3 minutes to walk down from his apartment to the floor.
[00:08:00] He's like, oh, I thought you were 10 minutes away.
[00:08:02] Okay, I'm coming.
[00:08:03] I am waiting under his house for 15 minutes.
[00:08:07] Because in 15 minutes of the award,
[00:08:10] he's just getting in touch with him.
[00:08:12] Sorry, sorry.
[00:08:13] I was exaggeration.
[00:08:14] There was 7 minutes.
[00:08:15] I checked.
[00:08:16] It was 7 minutes.
[00:08:17] I made you wait for it.
[00:08:18] You checked on your brand new watch.
[00:08:20] You watched it.
[00:08:21] You watched it on the analog watch.
[00:08:22] It's an analog watch.
[00:08:24] Do you know how to read the time?
[00:08:26] Yes, that's why he's not doing it.
[00:08:28] It's a skill I have to re-pick up.
[00:08:30] Yeah.
[00:08:31] When was the last time you read the time on an analog clock?
[00:08:35] I think.
[00:08:38] The time when I actually wore a war, yeah.
[00:08:40] I mean, I actually wore a watch when I thought it was like cool thing.
[00:08:42] Was it one of your Disney Mickey Mouse watches?
[00:08:44] That was a lot.
[00:08:45] It's about there about maybe not Mickey Mouse.
[00:08:47] That's it.
[00:08:48] Well, Mickey Mouse has a data reference.
[00:08:50] You're a mini mouse fan.
[00:08:52] You said Mickey Mouse.
[00:08:54] Like, yeah.
[00:08:55] You said who says you sounded like Mickey Mouse.
[00:08:57] Who says Mickey Mouse?
[00:08:58] Who says Mickey Mouse?
[00:09:01] Mickey Mouse.
[00:09:02] Mickey Mouse.
[00:09:03] Yes.
[00:09:05] I think mine was one of what which got to.
[00:09:07] They do that point.
[00:09:08] Like, I think just a little bit before Ben Tanyaja's before Ben Tanyaja's.
[00:09:12] Of course.
[00:09:13] That's right.
[00:09:14] So Ben Tanyaja's.
[00:09:15] Ben Tanyaja.
[00:09:16] If you were into Ben Tanyaja when you were a kid,
[00:09:18] you show how young you actually are.
[00:09:20] I was like,
[00:09:21] He was there.
[00:09:22] Yeah.
[00:09:23] That's very nice.
[00:09:24] No, but the idea is, okay,
[00:09:25] if I in seven minutes or so,
[00:09:26] I get to give seven minutes to get down.
[00:09:27] Okay, flat to the ground floor.
[00:09:29] And that is because
[00:09:30] I forgot to wear his watch.
[00:09:32] Then he was trying to wear his watch.
[00:09:33] He couldn't figure out how to wear the watch.
[00:09:35] Because
[00:09:36] something perhaps are a
[00:09:38] Yeah,
[00:09:39] I can't imagine.
[00:09:40] I'll know syllabus.
[00:09:41] They're out of syllabus.
[00:09:42] They're out of syllabus.
[00:09:43] They're not.
[00:09:44] Then he figured out.
[00:09:45] He should carry the watch in his hand and wear it in the car.
[00:09:48] But then he decided against it because he's like,
[00:09:50] What if while walking down,
[00:09:52] he slips and the watch falls and it breaks.
[00:09:54] Yep.
[00:09:55] So all of these mental, mental mess
[00:09:58] were happening in Mukesh's head.
[00:10:00] And that is the reason why Mukesh is so bad.
[00:10:02] I keep it in a track of time.
[00:10:04] Yep, it's a good filibuster.
[00:10:06] Now let's talk about the effect.
[00:10:08] Yes, let's talk about the effect.
[00:10:10] Pressure and we had some questions from last time
[00:10:12] that we asked people to send it.
[00:10:14] So I think we'll just get those questions in.
[00:10:16] We'll answer those questions because
[00:10:18] I hope you have some books.
[00:10:19] I'm sure you've got a few questions.
[00:10:21] I've got a few questions.
[00:10:22] Let's just answer them.
[00:10:23] Of course.
[00:10:24] The first one by Fazeel Abbas Buna Tuala.
[00:10:27] He says,
[00:10:28] F.A. Cup Champions,
[00:10:29] GGMU.
[00:10:30] Not a question, just a statement.
[00:10:31] Yes. Correct.
[00:10:32] Yeah.
[00:10:33] Amazing. Yes.
[00:10:34] GGMU.
[00:10:35] Correct. You're here.
[00:10:36] You're here.
[00:10:37] Yeah.
[00:10:38] The next one is by
[00:10:40] Krishiv on score 25.
[00:10:41] He says,
[00:10:42] I can't believe he won the F.A. Cup.
[00:10:43] If Tenag is sacked,
[00:10:44] who is your option?
[00:10:46] Nobody.
[00:10:47] If Tenag, at this point,
[00:10:48] they're going to sacked Tenag
[00:10:50] then this club deserves twofold
[00:10:52] and go into administrative.
[00:10:54] No, if they can pull a,
[00:10:56] if they can pull a,
[00:10:57] someone like the Agomota or Zadan
[00:10:59] or Zadan.
[00:11:00] I'm saying,
[00:11:01] I'm saying,
[00:11:02] I'm saying,
[00:11:03] I'm saying,
[00:11:04] I'm saying,
[00:11:05] someone of that caliber,
[00:11:06] like if they can't pay that money
[00:11:08] and show now this new investment,
[00:11:09] they can't pay.
[00:11:10] Okay.
[00:11:11] Here's the thing.
[00:11:12] There are a lot of is going to you.
[00:11:14] To you,
[00:11:15] to you,
[00:11:16] to you, to you, to you.
[00:11:17] I'm saying,
[00:11:18] Zidane Zidane has only managed real material
[00:11:21] and he's been out of a job for a very long time.
[00:11:23] So questions need to be asked just to
[00:11:25] why?
[00:11:26] Like is he not interested in managing
[00:11:27] any other team apart from the one
[00:11:28] that he's played for?
[00:11:29] So it's not a good fit.
[00:11:31] Like he's not going to bring anything new
[00:11:33] to the table.
[00:11:34] I should.
[00:11:35] Rubin Amiram is said that he's going
[00:11:37] to stay exporting,
[00:11:38] so that is also a closed conversation.
[00:11:40] There is like somebody on Twitter
[00:11:42] I'd actually pointed out though.
[00:11:43] They said that the weirdest thing is
[00:11:45] if at this point some manager
[00:11:48] or United,
[00:11:49] if there was a different manager
[00:11:50] United who was sat,
[00:11:51] the ownership would be looking
[00:11:53] at Eric Tanhal to fill his place.
[00:11:55] He would be on the shortly.
[00:11:58] So you have a good manager.
[00:12:00] He's been very unlucky with everything.
[00:12:03] External that has happened at the club.
[00:12:06] Overall in his two years
[00:12:08] I feel like the club has lost you over
[00:12:10] because let's not forget even though
[00:12:12] he finished eight in the league
[00:12:13] that still took a trophy in two seasons.
[00:12:16] That is something.
[00:12:18] That's actually more than I did.
[00:12:21] Exactly.
[00:12:22] So there is definitely potential there.
[00:12:26] He definitely has the tools
[00:12:29] and the strategic thinking to take this club forward.
[00:12:32] And it makes no sense of a manager
[00:12:34] as one year left on the contract
[00:12:36] to sack him right now
[00:12:37] and pay him a severance
[00:12:39] because anyway United has a feeling
[00:12:41] of a guy in the league.
[00:12:42] We can't buy the type of players
[00:12:44] that we want because
[00:12:45] we are heavily outside of FFP guidelines.
[00:12:48] So to then pay a manager
[00:12:49] or office also going to add to that
[00:12:51] and it's just a dumb thing to do.
[00:12:54] Yeah, in short the answer is
[00:12:56] if Eric Tanhal then who
[00:12:58] no one fuck it.
[00:13:00] That's pretty close to what Ashwin is saying.
[00:13:03] Ashwin 040 is saying
[00:13:04] Are you guys Tanhal Gain
[00:13:06] not to rely seems like he's got a plan?
[00:13:08] Yeah, fully fully Tanhal Gain.
[00:13:10] And if not Tanhal then Moudi Ji.
[00:13:12] I'm also sad that.
[00:13:17] But I'm still playing Ashif as Hitler
[00:13:23] Chodu is okay.
[00:13:24] That's the riskiest thing I will say.
[00:13:27] But I might be some gentleman who offended and I'm like
[00:13:30] I'm just saying that he is good enough
[00:13:32] to take a job like this
[00:13:33] a highly stressful job he is proven himself
[00:13:35] why not?
[00:13:36] No.
[00:13:37] Jovi is a child
[00:13:39] and he is like a child
[00:13:41] but he is good.
[00:13:42] Good, good.
[00:13:43] Very good.
[00:13:44] Like it.
[00:13:45] Excellent by Zen here in.
[00:13:47] Also same topic he says
[00:13:49] Emnias with Fika winners
[00:13:51] up Tera Kiao's 10th
[00:13:52] new manager
[00:13:54] question mark, new players question mark.
[00:13:56] New players, this is for sure.
[00:13:58] New players definitely.
[00:13:59] In fact there is a there is a
[00:14:00] room of the Casimiro is getting an offer
[00:14:02] of 80 or 100 million euros
[00:14:04] from Saudi.
[00:14:05] I don't believe this.
[00:14:07] This is Saudi.
[00:14:08] Yes.
[00:14:09] Yeah.
[00:14:10] I mean,
[00:14:11] Saudi definitely but they will probably
[00:14:13] just keep him for one season.
[00:14:15] That doesn't matter if you
[00:14:16] ready to go into get 80 to 100 million euros
[00:14:19] for Casimiro they should
[00:14:20] straight away be the without
[00:14:22] looking at and they should take it
[00:14:24] like Chaldeed.
[00:14:25] You're my RTG as details.
[00:14:27] Please.
[00:14:28] You mean, it transfer
[00:14:30] I'll give you 50% discount.
[00:14:32] Yeah.
[00:14:34] But yeah.
[00:14:35] So yeah, new players definitely
[00:14:36] new manager not so much.
[00:14:39] Great.
[00:14:40] So that's on the questions front.
[00:14:42] But I think wasn't
[00:14:44] 10th
[00:14:45] the supposed to decide supposedly
[00:14:47] supposed to decide his weight
[00:14:49] were these staying in a not staying
[00:14:50] sometime this was it.
[00:14:51] How is that?
[00:14:52] No, no, no.
[00:14:54] I'm seeing that the owner
[00:14:56] is supposed to decide that
[00:14:58] whether he's going to stay or not
[00:14:59] within this week.
[00:15:00] Yeah.
[00:15:01] So apparently the
[00:15:02] news was that the
[00:15:04] in your ownership are
[00:15:06] doing an internal review and
[00:15:08] anything which they do at the end of
[00:15:10] every season which is very, very
[00:15:11] one of the points to be discussed in
[00:15:13] that in the review was
[00:15:14] if 10th should continue as
[00:15:15] manager or whatever.
[00:15:16] But the the follow up
[00:15:18] news to that is overwhelmingly
[00:15:20] everybody in that any of
[00:15:22] leadership group things that
[00:15:24] and how goes over performed in
[00:15:26] his last two years
[00:15:28] for his first two years as as
[00:15:30] United manager considering everything
[00:15:31] that he's going to be
[00:15:33] going to be a very
[00:15:35] good thing.
[00:15:36] So it's been a very
[00:15:37] bad
[00:15:39] ownership structure before
[00:15:41] any of us came in.
[00:15:42] unnecessary transfers.
[00:15:44] Lots of injuries all of that.
[00:15:47] So despite all of that,
[00:15:49] the fact that he's got
[00:15:50] the metrophying every season is
[00:15:52] still a good marker and we want
[00:15:54] to continue with it.
[00:15:55] So there has been no concrete
[00:15:58] evidence of him staying or not
[00:16:00] that they haven't said anything
[00:16:02] just yet means that I feel like he
[00:16:04] will stay.
[00:16:05] Or he could get
[00:16:06] sacked.
[00:16:07] No, I just think.
[00:16:08] I mean if he does have I
[00:16:10] mean yeah, it's for
[00:16:11] volume could get
[00:16:12] a heavy point but
[00:16:13] tight don't think that they do
[00:16:15] that because by and large
[00:16:16] overwhelmingly the fans are
[00:16:17] also in favor of 10
[00:16:19] hours staying and if they
[00:16:21] sacked and have then there
[00:16:22] will be an uproar and any
[00:16:24] new owner would not want to
[00:16:26] start off there.
[00:16:28] That's on the question.
[00:16:32] So awesome.
[00:16:34] Right, let's get to the slightly
[00:16:36] smaller trophy that we've talked about
[00:16:38] the champion.
[00:16:39] Real Madrid man 15th
[00:16:42] Champions League victory in
[00:16:44] their history going up against
[00:16:46] Dortmund winning two
[00:16:47] nail goals from Danny Carval
[00:16:49] and finishes junior
[00:16:51] in the second.
[00:16:52] And Carval
[00:16:53] to the fucking scoring
[00:16:54] ahead of my court.
[00:16:56] Yeah.
[00:16:57] The last time when little
[00:16:58] man scored a header in the
[00:17:00] Champions League final and I
[00:17:01] was shocked when Messi scored it
[00:17:02] against United.
[00:17:03] It's up to 2009.
[00:17:05] Right, I think I was last
[00:17:07] out of like, oh, that's a
[00:17:08] really fine.
[00:17:09] This guy has got a head out of
[00:17:10] the hand.
[00:17:11] I'm like, are you crazy
[00:17:12] dot wound?
[00:17:13] What have you let happen?
[00:17:14] But Dortmund started
[00:17:15] the game so well.
[00:17:16] Yeah.
[00:17:17] They started the game so
[00:17:19] fucking well.
[00:17:20] It was criminal that they
[00:17:21] went into half time at zero zero
[00:17:22] because they had so many
[00:17:23] games.
[00:17:24] They had so many games.
[00:17:25] So many games.
[00:17:26] So many games.
[00:17:27] They did a game and
[00:17:29] they did a game and they
[00:17:29] really should have put it away
[00:17:31] because in the first half
[00:17:32] Real Madrid were no way.
[00:17:34] But that's them man.
[00:17:35] I don't know what strategy
[00:17:37] that is.
[00:17:38] I don't know how to codify it
[00:17:39] in some practice or law but
[00:17:40] like, that's how they do it.
[00:17:42] Like it's always
[00:17:44] looks like oh, they're out.
[00:17:45] They're going to scoop.
[00:17:46] But you never really.
[00:17:47] It's happened with soup.
[00:17:48] It's happened with Barcelona.
[00:17:49] It's happened with Liverpool.
[00:17:50] It's happened with Bayern like
[00:17:52] In that season, I think they're easy to find as a Liverpool.
[00:17:54] It's just a no matter how good or how bad.
[00:17:58] I don't know how to qualify that.
[00:17:59] I don't know what is the process other than being like,
[00:18:01] Kate's magic.
[00:18:02] How does it black magic?
[00:18:04] Like how do you hit the inside post and not?
[00:18:10] And how does it not go in?
[00:18:11] Like that's incredible.
[00:18:13] And how does your goal keep up?
[00:18:14] Who's not played any game on the finals?
[00:18:16] Yeah.
[00:18:17] Right.
[00:18:18] And still keep a clean sheet while making some excellent saves.
[00:18:22] The first 15 minutes, how do you keep a clean sheet?
[00:18:26] And even the one time they do malicious.
[00:18:27] You can go, it's just an off side by like a step or two,
[00:18:30] which even if it wasn't an off side,
[00:18:31] it would've still been a goal.
[00:18:33] In sense that had he still been a step back and had some
[00:18:35] composer, he could still score their goal.
[00:18:37] I'm like, how do all these things happen?
[00:18:40] It is, you know, the problem is that and going back to
[00:18:43] Dortmund because they started off so brightly and
[00:18:46] and Realme did were nowhere in that first half.
[00:18:49] They were not getting any sniff of gotments of or at least
[00:18:54] their their penalty box in that first half.
[00:18:56] And the fact that they still went to half time at
[00:18:59] Nill, Nill changed the game because at that point,
[00:19:02] Angelotti has the experience and he has the players and
[00:19:04] he has obviously has the the the mammoth machine that is
[00:19:08] Realme, it could just be like who said you alone?
[00:19:10] You know, Realme, you're doing.
[00:19:11] Yeah.
[00:19:12] You're Dortmund.
[00:19:14] You guys have beaten the best of teams on the
[00:19:17] front of you doing right now.
[00:19:19] And the fact that they went in 0 0 meant that they could
[00:19:22] come out in the second half much stronger.
[00:19:25] However, Hague Dortmund scored one at least one if not two goals
[00:19:29] were first half.
[00:19:29] No, it would have been very game.
[00:19:31] Yeah.
[00:19:32] Yeah.
[00:19:32] Madrid would have gotten a goal back but it would have been tough
[00:19:35] because then Dortmund would have gone into a low block.
[00:19:38] They would have really shut up shop and
[00:19:42] fair play to Dortmund.
[00:19:43] They have some excellent players who were playing well.
[00:19:47] Can I, I think it's just down to.
[00:19:50] I think it's just some, it just cannot a mentality and
[00:19:54] clubs like Dortmund even United don't extend Liverpool.
[00:20:00] And I'm leaving like so you know, you keep the city Chelsea
[00:20:02] Madrid, they're all on one side.
[00:20:03] But these teams play for the moment and the passion and the
[00:20:06] fans and I think you can see that tension in the players.
[00:20:10] I've been really missed on the crowd goes,
[00:20:13] you can see the play of feeling like all do.
[00:20:15] I just really messed up.
[00:20:17] But you know, like I was watching the game and I was like,
[00:20:19] United had not been in the Champions League for a, for a while.
[00:20:22] And even when they've been in the Champions League,
[00:20:25] they've been out of it very, very quickly.
[00:20:27] But just seeing the quality of football that Madrid and
[00:20:30] Dortmund are both playing just showed to me as a
[00:20:32] United fan how far that team is from from competing.
[00:20:37] You know, even like going for the title,
[00:20:39] but from even competing or being in that conversation,
[00:20:42] it was scary how good they all and Dortmund both played.
[00:20:47] I think to me, everyone should just take note of how much the distance between
[00:20:53] like how adaptibles are club like Real Madrid is like,
[00:20:55] you know, they were the Galactic club and
[00:20:57] Dortmund were the young people club, right?
[00:21:00] You were the get the orange on the sunshine, the balling games,
[00:21:04] and all of that.
[00:21:04] Even Emily Chanday to call them slightly younger age relatively.
[00:21:08] Right.
[00:21:09] And now they're actually very, if you look at Dortmund,
[00:21:11] they had the older players.
[00:21:12] They had Royce and they were like, how many was in there?
[00:21:14] And you know, the profile is between that 25 to put
[00:21:17] year in the older and Real Madrid or the younger team.
[00:21:20] They were doing,
[00:21:21] but Real Madrid were more like the Dortmund team.
[00:21:24] Like the way associated.
[00:21:25] Yeah.
[00:21:26] I think the scale part is that the fact that Real Madrid just took
[00:21:30] 45 years for them to adjust and they did it on at such a large scale.
[00:21:35] They, for me, they didn't just outplayed
[00:21:37] Dortmund, they outdort them to Dortmund in terms of the on pitch.
[00:21:41] What it looks like also.
[00:21:42] So I think the fact that Real Madrid can change so scary.
[00:21:45] Like, you know, it's like, because Premier League clubs like legacy
[00:21:49] and it takes like 10, 15 years to recover from a manager leaving
[00:21:53] and like see, he heard the like five years.
[00:21:55] Four years is a tournament out.
[00:21:57] That is incredibly hard.
[00:21:59] Like, incredibly incredible incredible.
[00:22:02] I do love no doubt about that.
[00:22:03] But speaking of young and young who is his old Tony Cruz,
[00:22:06] I try to earn my trade played his last club game.
[00:22:08] Of course he has announced his retirement from football.
[00:22:11] So he's, uh,
[00:22:12] stint to Germany at the yorals is going to be his last
[00:22:15] footballing tournament.
[00:22:16] What a player.
[00:22:17] What an,
[00:22:18] Yeah.
[00:22:19] You can't even call him underrated.
[00:22:21] Yeah.
[00:22:22] Because it's not like he's,
[00:22:23] he's,
[00:22:24] he's under flashing
[00:22:26] because he's not your typical leg.
[00:22:28] You know,
[00:22:29] suck in fast cards,
[00:22:30] bleeding type of footballer.
[00:22:32] He's the,
[00:22:32] he's the Paul school type.
[00:22:34] You know,
[00:22:34] he works at home.
[00:22:35] He's going to like,
[00:22:36] very, very German in the sense.
[00:22:39] But, uh,
[00:22:40] what a career.
[00:22:41] What a player.
[00:22:42] Yeah, I feel like if you call him underrated,
[00:22:43] then you're probably under knowledge.
[00:22:45] Like,
[00:22:46] can't we call him?
[00:22:47] Yeah.
[00:22:47] He's like,
[00:22:48] he's catching up on them underrated.
[00:22:50] Like,
[00:22:50] you have a band in all your family.
[00:22:52] Yeah,
[00:22:52] fantastic.
[00:22:53] And then those two freaks that he took man.
[00:22:55] I really don't want them.
[00:22:56] We'll just, you know,
[00:22:57] they were made for like trailer shots.
[00:23:01] Like again,
[00:23:02] even the seams are actually equally good.
[00:23:05] Fantastic.
[00:23:06] And to give so much.
[00:23:08] And what a dream right?
[00:23:09] The lift,
[00:23:10] the Champions League in your final game,
[00:23:14] while also knowing that you've,
[00:23:15] now you've trained your values,
[00:23:18] you've trained your belly hims,
[00:23:20] Camerangas,
[00:23:21] all of those guys.
[00:23:23] Yeah.
[00:23:23] Two like now,
[00:23:24] two very well and teach them how to win.
[00:23:26] And I think for most of them,
[00:23:27] except for Beryem,
[00:23:28] it's their second Champions League.
[00:23:30] To beat on to 23, 24 and winning,
[00:23:33] two Champions League,
[00:23:34] my God.
[00:23:37] I got scared.
[00:23:38] Scary.
[00:23:38] First Panic football actually.
[00:23:40] I mean,
[00:23:41] this is how Cotten dry,
[00:23:44] Tony Cruz is right because
[00:23:45] you're bellygum post to a photo on his Instagram with the cup
[00:23:48] and Tony Cruz commented on that saying,
[00:23:51] not bad for your first season.
[00:23:53] Just like this Champions League.
[00:23:57] He's just like,
[00:23:58] you see,
[00:24:00] I'm going to go now.
[00:24:01] Now I'm going to continue.
[00:24:02] But you're not going to continue.
[00:24:03] Yeah, exactly.
[00:24:04] And Perez says we're really thinking about the next one
[00:24:07] into 24 25.
[00:24:08] I was like,
[00:24:09] Bro,
[00:24:10] relax.
[00:24:10] Post matching to you.
[00:24:12] Like that means there's been less than 90 minutes
[00:24:15] between the game getting over and down into you.
[00:24:17] Like,
[00:24:18] enjoy this feeling for the length of a game at least.
[00:24:22] That is why you're there.
[00:24:24] And the clubs there.
[00:24:26] Oh, yeah.
[00:24:27] Exactly.
[00:24:28] Exactly.
[00:24:30] But Jude Bellingham was seen chatting with Josie Morinio
[00:24:33] after the match.
[00:24:34] And it was really wholesome because after having that chat with Morinio,
[00:24:39] Bellingham went to the inside.
[00:24:40] Can my mom have a picture with you?
[00:24:42] She's fancy.
[00:24:44] And Morinio took a picture with Jude Bellingham's muscle.
[00:24:47] So cute.
[00:24:48] And I mean,
[00:24:48] Bellingham to fan it back for sure.
[00:24:50] That's happened.
[00:24:52] That's because Josie also said next year,
[00:24:55] if you're playing against when the birthday just come down.
[00:25:00] Morinio at fan you walk versus Bellingham and Madrid.
[00:25:03] That's going to be the battle.
[00:25:04] And then because he's not going to be so sweet then,
[00:25:07] he's going to ask the Turkish fans to kill him.
[00:25:11] Yeah.
[00:25:11] Like I actually am very careful football.
[00:25:14] For what's going to happen into a key.
[00:25:16] Yeah.
[00:25:17] Because it's already a volatile footballing nation.
[00:25:21] And when you add Josie Morinio to that makes much love,
[00:25:25] you know how when you're cooking food,
[00:25:27] the outcome of when you put a chili.
[00:25:30] That's what the way it's going to be.
[00:25:32] That is exactly.
[00:25:34] Actually feel like after Real Madrid,
[00:25:36] you know,
[00:25:37] hasn't been at such a wide place.
[00:25:39] You know what I'm going to say with a fans can get to the beginning,
[00:25:42] which is what he feels off of.
[00:25:44] Yeah.
[00:25:45] United didn't have the winning thing to get them.
[00:25:50] He taught him what he didn't have any.
[00:25:52] He didn't have any.
[00:25:53] Oh, wow.
[00:25:54] We're all like drama,
[00:25:55] passionate but not who leagues in the way Madrid fans can get.
[00:25:58] I think finally it's made.
[00:26:00] Little disappointed that he's gone there.
[00:26:02] I wish he went to at least see when back to Portugal.
[00:26:05] Yeah.
[00:26:06] We took our work to the port or someone again.
[00:26:08] But I guess fan of walk is.
[00:26:09] It'd be nice to see a Turkish because we've never been part of an era
[00:26:13] where the Turkish teams of Ukraine teams have done really well.
[00:26:18] Right.
[00:26:18] So you guys to be guessing that is it?
[00:26:20] Is it let's talk about Marina for a bit really quickly
[00:26:23] before we start wrapping up for this episode,
[00:26:25] but does this seem like?
[00:26:27] Moreno's career is stepping down.
[00:26:29] Is it like a decline in what was once one of the best managers in the world?
[00:26:35] I think he really messed up by going to taught me.
[00:26:38] I think his man United's stint was still understandable
[00:26:41] and maybe acceptable.
[00:26:43] But I think him going to taught him and then Roma was a bad mistake.
[00:26:49] Roma's dad would be happy with the fact that he's left.
[00:26:54] Like of course he won them or the confidence league award.
[00:26:57] That's what he meant.
[00:26:59] That's the guy who takes Porto to the Champions League.
[00:27:02] That's not the guy who got Roma.
[00:27:04] That's the guy who took Porto to the Champions League when he was also much younger.
[00:27:07] I don't know what he's got his level.
[00:27:09] He's the guy who's under the same breath as Guardiola.
[00:27:13] Correct?
[00:27:14] That guy should have been like,
[00:27:16] I don't know, just in a different universe he's probably at an awesome level.
[00:27:21] He's come back to United or take in the Chelsea job again for 17 to the time.
[00:27:25] You know, he's at that level.
[00:27:27] I'm going to get that money and I'm going to...
[00:27:30] You can tolerate a Murino losing at the Champions League final.
[00:27:34] But him winning up confidence league final is like dude work.
[00:27:37] Do we taught no man Roma or big step down?
[00:27:40] Of course Roma benefited.
[00:27:41] Good for them but...
[00:27:42] Yeah.
[00:27:43] Tautant didn't benefit.
[00:27:46] It was fantastic because they had a unveiling for Jose Marino in Turkey and you know how wide the fans can be.
[00:27:53] So it was mental when he was a bit.
[00:27:55] It felt like all of this was a fun potato.
[00:27:57] Yeah.
[00:28:01] So he addressed the fans and he said that, you know,
[00:28:05] from now on you are my family.
[00:28:08] And this shirt is my skin.
[00:28:10] And the fans went wide.
[00:28:13] And that just goes to show that Murino is a classic fucking snake.
[00:28:18] Because how many skins has he won in his career?
[00:28:22] I don't know.
[00:28:23] I'm saying that right.
[00:28:25] Yeah, but the way was the same.
[00:28:28] It was a way.
[00:28:29] There's a way to have a press agenda and you can see he's not that like you know,
[00:28:34] Tana could probably be the same or any similar.
[00:28:36] Whatever.
[00:28:37] He can be the same guy.
[00:28:38] But it's a way more than you make you believe that all finally.
[00:28:41] No, no, no.
[00:28:43] Why is that?
[00:28:44] Murino's wife's.
[00:28:45] Yeah.
[00:28:46] Murino's wife's FC.
[00:28:47] And it's not the same vibe.
[00:28:48] It's not the same vibes as a club or some more.
[00:28:51] It's not that it's like that.
[00:28:53] See, me, me, doc magic vibes.
[00:28:55] Yeah, I don't know.
[00:28:56] For me, Murino going to Turkish league is just more like the celebrity manager going
[00:29:02] over there and just trying to get more attention to that league, more than anything else.
[00:29:06] And getting generously football.
[00:29:08] I think this is the best week in a Champions League football.
[00:29:11] Yeah.
[00:29:11] Yeah.
[00:29:12] Like I think it is very.
[00:29:13] It's just that.
[00:29:14] I feel like Murino can sneak into the round of 16.
[00:29:17] Then anything and happen with Murino with his teams.
[00:29:19] Yeah.
[00:29:20] Right.
[00:29:21] I think this bet is, OK, can I sneak in nine points in the league group stage?
[00:29:26] And that's what he's going to coach because once he enters round of 16,
[00:29:29] he's going to do some random shit like whatever the next format is,
[00:29:33] he gets also a league stage.
[00:29:34] Once he gets to the knockoff knockouts, that's really,
[00:29:38] Murino's going to take.
[00:29:39] He can take fucking card if for something and make them reach up.
[00:29:43] And if he wants to.
[00:29:44] So that's his bet.
[00:29:45] Yeah.
[00:29:46] He'll win the league.
[00:29:46] He comes second doesn't matter.
[00:29:48] But get chacks such a Champions League football again and just needle the big clubs.
[00:29:54] Yeah, that it's going to be fun to watch.
[00:29:56] And of course next season, the Champions League format also changes which we
[00:29:59] dive deep into in future episodes, but it is going to be an interesting one.
[00:30:04] Right.
[00:30:04] Before we wrap up, official news has finally come in.
[00:30:09] I mean, one of the official news is that in Muppi to Real Madrid is almost done.
[00:30:12] That official news hasn't come in.
[00:30:13] But yeah, fucking Madrid with Muppi now is going to be next level scary.
[00:30:18] Like, when the Champions League is there, you'll get a lot of buzz.
[00:30:20] What a shit move for Muppi.
[00:30:23] What a shit move that Muppi is doing right.
[00:30:25] Like, they take.
[00:30:26] But where else would he go?
[00:30:27] Like from PSG, Real Madrid is obviously his dream.
[00:30:30] As is the main prize for Fath.
[00:30:33] I feel like because I mean, now he could have gone anyway because he made it so obvious.
[00:30:36] He was such a huge thirsty for Real Madrid.
[00:30:39] Are you angry that he didn't go to the Liverpool?
[00:30:41] No, no, no.
[00:30:42] Oh my god, you know, I don't think actually if he had gone to Barcelona, like the legacy would have been much.
[00:30:46] Like, you know, now to throw Barcelona is a, there's no point of going.
[00:30:50] I do it.
[00:30:51] Like, how do you say?
[00:30:52] Okay, when Maraudela, when Maraudela went to, when Maraudela went to, when Maraudela went to Nappel,
[00:30:57] what do we do?
[00:30:58] He put Nappel in the fucking app.
[00:30:59] Correct.
[00:31:00] Right.
[00:31:01] When Messi went to Barcelona, not that he put them on the map, but he, he made them out.
[00:31:05] Like, he made it.
[00:31:07] I will receive almost dead.
[00:31:08] Right.
[00:31:09] There was, there was a way you could be kind of accepted that okay, Real Madrid is the second Messi.
[00:31:13] Maraudela's Messi and Javi in the rest of that.
[00:31:15] Right.
[00:31:16] He's all going to do that.
[00:31:17] What is he going to do?
[00:31:18] He's going to make them win the Champions League again.
[00:31:19] That they've already won.
[00:31:20] He's going to make them win the league, which is a one again.
[00:31:22] But in that.
[00:31:23] So often.
[00:31:24] But okay, I'm not saying it's not a big one.
[00:31:27] I think like, offshore, that's the destination for most of these players.
[00:31:30] But what says legacy going to be if he's already worried about that, he's already made the money.
[00:31:34] In fact, I'm sure he's getting paid less now.
[00:31:36] Yes.
[00:31:37] So he's taken the money.
[00:31:38] I feel yes.
[00:31:39] He is getting paid less, but I feel like his legacy is always going to be great because
[00:31:44] from PSG to go to Real Madrid's big step up from PSG to go to Barcelona is not a step up at this point.
[00:31:49] PSG to Barcelona is probably a step down.
[00:31:52] But then he takes it up.
[00:31:54] And then he makes.
[00:31:55] No, he makes Barcelona when he charges.
[00:31:57] If he makes Barcelona win, if he makes Barcelona win the La Liga and a few copa del Rizona.
[00:32:03] But he's not going to be able to.
[00:32:04] He would have said that about Maradona when he went to different generation.
[00:32:11] Okay, okay.
[00:32:12] I'm sorry.
[00:32:13] It's a very interesting.
[00:32:15] It's a very interesting conversation.
[00:32:16] Right?
[00:32:17] It's a secret.
[00:32:17] Okay.
[00:32:18] No, no.
[00:32:19] I'll tell you what the big difference here is that Barcelona are so fathre.
[00:32:22] Now they've sat down after Javi said, I want to go.
[00:32:26] Then everybody at Barcelona is like La Liga Porter and always like, no, no, why you want to go?
[00:32:30] Please don't go.
[00:32:30] Please stay or son of Barcelona.
[00:32:32] Please, please.
[00:32:32] You know what?
[00:32:33] I'll stay.
[00:32:34] Yeah, fuck it.
[00:32:35] You're fired.
[00:32:36] Like that is just fucking basket case behavior from this football club.
[00:32:39] Then they hire hands-efficient and reports are that they kind register hands-efficient
[00:32:44] and is coaching staff as their manager because they don't have the money.
[00:32:48] They are so fucked.
[00:32:50] They don't have money and they go on spending ridiculous amounts on players.
[00:32:54] Right?
[00:32:55] Now in the middle of all of that, think about it.
[00:32:58] From the most part of you because we are not living in the generation where players get about legacy and building a team back up.
[00:33:09] They don't give a fuck, especially this new generation they don't give a fuck.
[00:33:13] And honestly, why should they?
[00:33:14] It's a job.
[00:33:15] So my analogy is if you as Mukesh were given the opportunity to make steady income,
[00:33:27] No, no, not so fit.
[00:33:28] No, no, he's a big, steady income.
[00:33:30] Steady income, lots of income in a company which is big,
[00:33:36] which has prestige, which has been managed very well.
[00:33:40] You know that you will have longevity in that company.
[00:33:44] You know that you will have job security in that company.
[00:33:48] You know you will be well taken care of.
[00:33:51] Would you go there or would you go to a once amazing company that is in absolute factors where you may or may not get paid?
[00:34:02] You may or may not get registered as an employee.
[00:34:06] Once if you do somehow magically decide to get registered or able to get registered as an employee,
[00:34:11] your salary may not come in.
[00:34:13] You don't know.
[00:34:14] Then you might have to look for a loan more or you might have to look for a permanent transfer,
[00:34:20] which is going to be hard for you to get because that other companies not going to take you because they're like you went to our competitors.
[00:34:26] Now we don't want you and you're not nobody else.
[00:34:29] No other club is going to be willing to accept your wage demands.
[00:34:33] Where would you go at that point when you're 20?
[00:34:36] I'm not a footballer.
[00:34:39] I'm not in any field.
[00:34:40] I'm not in contention to be the greatest of that field.
[00:34:43] I'm not like, but I'm saying, but I'm saying,
[00:34:45] think if you were, but I thought,
[00:34:47] But I'm just thinking, if I was thinking like that, then I would go for the legacy,
[00:34:50] but I'm not there.
[00:34:51] So I'm very,
[00:34:52] I'm very,
[00:34:53] it is very easy to say that.
[00:34:54] It is very easy.
[00:34:55] It's interesting to see,
[00:34:57] but I'm seeing correct,
[00:34:58] but Mbappe was positive as that player,
[00:35:01] but he's not.
[00:35:02] He's not that player.
[00:35:03] He's clearly not.
[00:35:04] He's not ever going to be.
[00:35:06] He's not ever going to be going to come in contention to eclipse anyone's legacy.
[00:35:10] So he,
[00:35:10] okay, I'm going to send a controversial.
[00:35:12] I feel like he won't even reach.
[00:35:14] I don't know.
[00:35:15] Okay, this, okay, maybe I'll be able to go one more time.
[00:35:17] No, I think it's very,
[00:35:18] he'll be like,
[00:35:19] I think it's just a little unfair to me.
[00:35:21] He'll be to say that you're going to compare his legacy.
[00:35:23] He'll be a little bit.
[00:35:25] I don't think he'll even reach back who's legacy.
[00:35:29] Back him,
[00:35:29] very,
[00:35:30] like he's a real veteran.
[00:35:31] I'm thinking over and I'll buy the end of the career.
[00:35:33] If you look at it,
[00:35:35] he's easily going to be.
[00:35:36] He's a good,
[00:35:36] he's easily evil.
[00:35:37] In fact,
[00:35:38] he's got a world cup already.
[00:35:39] He's got a world cup already.
[00:35:40] He's got many French titles.
[00:35:42] He's going to get the La Liga title at least once.
[00:35:44] But he also has to tell me
[00:35:46] that he's gone.
[00:35:46] He's got champions.
[00:35:47] Yeah, but,
[00:35:48] but work up.
[00:35:49] I'm sure.
[00:35:50] Maybe, I'll give you that for another.
[00:35:51] Right.
[00:35:51] So he's got that.
[00:35:53] There is a chance that France will win your 20,
[00:35:55] 24 as well because they are heavy favorites for the euros.
[00:35:58] So we'll see about about that.
[00:36:02] He's going to win titles at Real Madrid.
[00:36:04] He's going to win the Champions League that he's never won.
[00:36:06] And B.S.G.
[00:36:07] So he's going to add that to his arsenal.
[00:36:09] He might,
[00:36:10] while he's at Real Madrid,
[00:36:12] win the Champions League three seasons in a row
[00:36:14] and score in all the finals.
[00:36:17] So he will create that legacy there.
[00:36:19] And when he is done at Real Madrid,
[00:36:20] he might move to a man city.
[00:36:22] He might come to conquer England because he will be 27, 28 still.
[00:36:25] Let his peak at that point.
[00:36:26] He has already 20 and he is like a single.
[00:36:28] He will take at least five also.
[00:36:30] So he's like, you know, and won't be enough for you.
[00:36:32] And we can't be enough for you.
[00:36:33] If it's the next three years, if it's the next three years,
[00:36:38] he does that.
[00:36:39] And he moves to a man city at 29.
[00:36:44] I think his footballing legacy is there.
[00:36:48] It's already there.
[00:36:49] He's already one of the world's best players.
[00:36:51] Of course.
[00:36:52] I mean, see, I'm a vision when you say legacy,
[00:36:54] you're only competing to the people you would consider
[00:36:57] putting in put in the top 20.
[00:36:58] Not comparing him to like, I don't know.
[00:37:01] Kevin, you're not saying,
[00:37:02] I do comparing him to the top 20.
[00:37:03] Obviously, but think about it this way.
[00:37:05] No, the messy was just,
[00:37:06] Ronaldo do,
[00:37:07] hopefully that was,
[00:37:08] plaguing the football world for the last how many of our years.
[00:37:12] The obvious succession to that is Holland versus Mbappe.
[00:37:16] Yeah, so I think that's yeah.
[00:37:17] Either way.
[00:37:18] But it is, it is the obvious next thing.
[00:37:22] Right?
[00:37:23] So there we go.
[00:37:24] All that note, it is time to end this episode
[00:37:26] because Mukesh is furiously
[00:37:28] being so relaxed for you,
[00:37:29] so now I'm tapping his watch telling us that he is late.
[00:37:32] Well, it is 830.
[00:37:34] He is going to be late anyway,
[00:37:35] which means that he is going to have to do multiple burpees.
[00:37:38] So it is going to be fun.
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