[00:00:00] Welcome to the podcast everybody. Welcome to the podcast on this lovely Tuesday or any
[00:00:23] other day of the week that you choose to listen to this episode. We are here by V. I mean it
[00:00:29] is me and with me is Mukesh just the two of us tonight and a very haggard looking Mukesh at that
[00:00:35] thing because he's tired because he's on IPL duty. You know who else is on IPL duty Amogh? Who? You are.
[00:00:44] I mean I'm not on IPL duty today but for our listeners we're doing a cool thing for fan code
[00:00:51] where we're doing a daily round up of all the IPL action. I'm hosting a few episodes
[00:00:57] Mukesh is writing for all of them. We're doing a lot of random type. Basically what we do here on
[00:01:04] this show is football we're doing there with cricket except over there we are actually talking to real
[00:01:08] cricketers who have played the game. Sachas tell me Amogh. Tell me some of the celebrities you've
[00:01:14] been hanging out with? I've been hanging out with Murli Kartek, I've been hanging out with
[00:01:18] Graham Swan. In fact yesterday I did an episode with Graham Swan who is a Newcastle United
[00:01:24] fan and I did mention to him because we had a lot of fun on that episode. Check out that episode
[00:01:28] on fan code right now but while talking we I pitched him the corner flag and he said he would
[00:01:35] love to come on so fingers crossed hopefully in the next few weeks we might have swanee on the
[00:01:40] podcast. Fingers crossed that's amazing and we can finally get rid of Akash and it sounds
[00:01:47] more respectable to say that we have a Newcastle United supporter than an evidence supporter.
[00:01:55] Absolutely. Absolutely. Alright before we get into all the action I think we need to do a little bit
[00:02:02] of self promotion a little more than what we've already done for this fan code show of ours
[00:02:07] but I have over here and people who will watch a video clip of this will see this
[00:02:12] but I have over here a lovely book which is called The Age of Heroes the incredible world
[00:02:21] of Telugu cinema written by our very own author Mukesh Manjunath Mukhi you're an author.
[00:02:28] Oh thank you, thank you, thank you. You are an author? Till now you and I were just
[00:02:34] buck-choting around now look at us hanging out with celebrities writing books. I know, I know
[00:02:39] it's great but we'll post a link to the book as well an amazon link where you can go and buy
[00:02:44] it please go and buy Mukesh's book he's he's put in a lot of effort into writing this book
[00:02:51] and even if you don't watch Telugu cinema or have no background I guarantee it is a hilariously fun
[00:02:58] ride because I don't watch Telugu cinema and I'm enjoying the book so Mukhi is a fantastic writer
[00:03:04] and it shows in the book that he's written somebody paid him money to actually write a book
[00:03:11] so you know he comes certified now so get get the book and dive into the world of Telugu
[00:03:18] cinema what is it about Telugu cinema Mukhi that made you write this book? I'm trying to be a funny
[00:03:27] guy but I think I don't have it to be a funny guy right now I think what got me writing this
[00:03:33] book in particular one of course you know me and I've always wanted to write at least a book
[00:03:37] if not many books yeah and I think it was a pretty much two parts to it one is a reverse
[00:03:44] engineer decision of okay no one's gonna take me seriously if I write a book about like Zogran the
[00:03:52] futuristic sci-fi planet right no one's going to listen to that so you need to give the people what
[00:03:57] they want to see a little bit so of course I knew somewhere I had to write either about politics
[00:04:02] cricket or cinema and your politics is very time bound or only historians do it yeah right
[00:04:10] or the death wish yeah all people with a death wish and I don't have a death wish I
[00:04:14] could enjoy because who else will come for this podcast if I die exactly exactly clearly not
[00:04:24] not graham swan um but yeah that I didn't want to write about cricket because I don't know if
[00:04:29] people in India read about cricket we watch cricket but we weren't so then it was like
[00:04:33] okay I need to write about cinema and then I think writing about Telugu cinema in a very fun
[00:04:37] and personal way was nice because I felt like uh growing up it was always the cinema that was laughed
[00:04:42] at it was almost like your guilty pleasure yeah right it was like ha ha and I was like hey you know what
[00:04:48] there's a place and a moment and a people so I think it's a fun thing to write about
[00:04:52] uh and yeah I think that's why I wanted to write about it awesome you can get the book on
[00:04:57] Amazon like I said we will post the link on the corner flag social media and even in the
[00:05:01] show notes for this episode uh so do go on there and buy the book it would mean a lot not just a
[00:05:08] muckish it will definitely mean a lot to muckish but it would also mean a lot to all of us at the
[00:05:12] corner flag as well because one of us is an author and that that that's just meant just to know
[00:05:18] that one of us is an actual friggin author um but give me context Amogh is seen me drunk
[00:05:24] in Kerala dancing to Malayalam songs I think he's never imagined Charles Dickens dude I I remember
[00:05:33] that night yeah so so well because it was you me and Suresh Menon the most man of all the Malayalis
[00:05:43] drinking I was the one dancing and you were the one grooving and Suresh Menon was just silently
[00:05:48] nodding his head yeah I think it's like married I am mental but I am not this mental these
[00:05:54] kids are way too young um but yes uh that was a that was a fun night uh now that we've done
[00:06:02] a nice positive start to the episode we should get into the football I'm wearing a Mumbai city jersey
[00:06:08] because I just came back from the Mumbai football arena where Mumbai city FC beat Odisha FC 2-1 in
[00:06:13] the second last game of the league season which means Mumbai city FC are top of the ISL
[00:06:18] last game is against a Mohan Bagan Supergiant who was second Mohan Bagan need to win the two games
[00:06:24] that they have in hand so if they lose their next game which is against Bengaluru or even draw the
[00:06:28] next game against Bengaluru Mumbai win the title and if they win then that match in Kolkata will
[00:06:36] be the title decider so it's a fantastic title run in in the ISL one of the best title
[00:06:42] run ends we've had in a while so yeah Mumbai city all the way hopefully we'll get our hands on the
[00:06:48] shield once again except for Hyderabad FC's playing I'm saying except for Hyderabad FC's playing
[00:06:54] but because Hyderabad FC is like bottom lowest um Hyderabad is winning the Urdu way I think no
[00:07:02] one told them I think no one told them like doesn't apply to numbers they're like infinity
[00:07:09] infinity minus one like counting down to zero you did quite a good thing badly so yeah no it's
[00:07:16] been a season to forget for Hyderabad so there we go but uh I mean enough about that title run in
[00:07:23] if the Indian title run is great let's talk about the English title run as well because
[00:07:28] Liverpool have let go of the advantage that they had so nicely carved out for themselves
[00:07:34] uh Jurgen Klopp could not win at all Trafford it looked like they were going to absolutely hammer
[00:07:40] Man United because Man United also coming off the back of a 4-3 last minute 4-3 defeat when
[00:07:47] they look like they turn things around against Chelsea and and Luis Diaz scoring the opener
[00:07:53] just felt like it was going to be business as usual but goals from Garnacho I think it was
[00:08:01] in and and Kobe Menu with a fantastic strike Bruno Fernandez oh yeah sorry Bruno Fernandez sorry I
[00:08:06] keep thinking Garnacho scoring because Garnacho always scores but yes uh it goes from Bruno
[00:08:12] mistake from general Kwanzaa which led to the goal from Bruno and a fantastic Kobe Menu shot
[00:08:17] and then the penalty leveling it up so I think what right I think
[00:08:24] I don't know whether it's just against Derby's or what but I don't think United's
[00:08:32] defending is actually as bad as people make it out to be I think
[00:08:38] basically a positional awareness is garbage but they're actually very good shot blockers
[00:08:44] or making the shot a little hard for attackers maybe I'm trying to cover up and intellectualize
[00:08:50] so that I can feel a little better but Liverpool being shit but I think uh that is because this game
[00:08:55] I saw on the last game also against Liverpool I saw like United's defending is bad but it's actually
[00:09:01] they're reasonably good shot stoppers like I feel like it's not about United's defending being
[00:09:06] bad it's just that United's defense has been ravaged by injuries we have we have no fit
[00:09:12] available why I was starting no but Harry was actually being in great form so it's not
[00:09:16] just because of the injuries that he was starting he was actually playing well and he did that again
[00:09:21] in in the game against Liverpool. So then actually you weren't ravaged by injuries. Yeah but who's
[00:09:25] injured? Lindelof is injured, Varan is injured, Lisandro Martinez is injured, Johnny Evans the
[00:09:30] 35 year old backup that we signed saying, okay you play to Pep Lisan on free transfer. He's also
[00:09:35] injured, Willy Kambuwala had to play uh in in defense who also had a spectacular game so I
[00:09:41] think it's just it's chaos it is basically chaos that Man United are following people ask me what
[00:09:50] is United's identity what is the philosophy the philosophy is chaos because there is no consistency
[00:09:56] there is no if you can't play better than them confuse them yeah it's one of those um to start
[00:10:02] of though there was interesting news maybe not interesting especially for the person in question
[00:10:08] but apparently human remains were found near the Manchester United training ground before the
[00:10:12] match a few days before the match and uh for training was disrupted a little bit I thought
[00:10:19] that was Tottenham no that was also Tottenham and we'll get to that as well it's a bad day
[00:10:24] for people in England just near football stadiums or training grounds no but human remains were
[00:10:29] apparently found near the united training ground and social media went crazy because they
[00:10:33] were like that explains where Tyrell Malacia is because the good has gotten injured a while ago
[00:10:42] and there's no mention of when he's going to come back because even on footmob and I've said this
[00:10:48] on a previous episode even on footmob when the lineups are out footmob does this thing where
[00:10:53] they talk about they mention all the players who are injured so it says Varan hamstring injury
[00:10:57] so many days martinez knee injury so many days lindelof illness so many days Tyrell
[00:11:03] Malacia a few days there's nothing else said over there it's just a few days till they figure out
[00:11:10] how to resurrect the dead till they do good friend also not went off so I think maybe we have to
[00:11:16] wait for a year now for him to come back now I don't think there's no no no no no no no
[00:11:22] we believe the Hinduism believes in karma and and the resurrection for he'll come back as the football
[00:11:28] us yeah maybe he's the football in the next dubby yeah um let's talk about the what's the error
[00:11:37] then let because that that is the that is the error that that got man united into the deal I also
[00:11:41] have to complain about my team's injuries man no why you've complained about I listen I listen
[00:11:47] is injured Trent is injured yoga Jota has injured ha ha ha ha which is why you live up we didn't win
[00:11:55] yeah there's a there's a five a side team there that can beat but that is precisely why Liverpool
[00:12:00] only managed to draw because if if both teams were at full strength united would have won
[00:12:06] yeah of course of course you can see that I'm confident of course I can jota was that it was
[00:12:10] game over okay was it like sala was there on the pitch and he couldn't do game over I feel
[00:12:15] like they snatched at chances they were just so confused about what united are doing that he just
[00:12:20] disrupted Liverpool's own rhythm I think they were little one they were little cocky and then the minute
[00:12:29] you missed the first two three right you start getting nervous and selfish uh and I think
[00:12:35] sala got selfish junez got nervous yeah and Liverpool got fucked that's basically what happened
[00:12:42] um let's talk about the what's our goal no uh the or the what's our error because that is in the
[00:12:50] second half when you've when you've gone into halftime with a one goal lead you feel like
[00:12:54] you're controlling the game it's not like Liverpool were playing badly they were clearly
[00:12:57] the dominant side united were chasing shadows to a certain extent and save for a couple of
[00:13:05] good saves from Andrea or Nana it could have been worse but yeah United would have been
[00:13:09] the happier of the two sides going into the break at one nil and you would think that Liverpool would
[00:13:15] come out in the second half and finish the job but that wasn't the case they all they had to do was
[00:13:19] was stick to plan continue doing what they were doing but then just an error of judgment from
[00:13:23] Kwanzaa plays a loose pass especially when keller is off his line and Bruno Fernandez
[00:13:28] completely capitalized on it which is also great technique from him to score from that
[00:13:33] distance and that angle oh my god I think that's that is actually some video game level finish
[00:13:39] right uh that error was also like I feel like you score when we've played FIFA like long ago
[00:13:45] I feel like you scored a goal like that against me I feel like I'm not I'm not if I'm not
[00:13:51] misremembering yeah but um no I think there's a reason why uh like I was really surprised
[00:13:58] that both Gomez and Konate were available and they didn't start in the central back partnership
[00:14:03] yeah I do think it was uh for which manager it said that games like old traffic are really
[00:14:07] hard and you can't just shove young defenders into these treasure situations right yeah especially
[00:14:13] if you're a time trying to if you're a team trying to defend the title now uh Kobe Minow can come to
[00:14:19] an anfield or go to an Emirates because they're all they're they're expected to lose so they
[00:14:24] pretty much have nothing to lose and when they perform it's just fantastic for their confidence
[00:14:28] and when they don't it doesn't do much but in games like this where you have to win you have
[00:14:33] to perform even every error will lead to all sorts of mockery I do think Kwanzaa was a wrong choice
[00:14:40] for by Klopp to start it was it is ultimately like I mean Kwanzaa's a great player but ultimately
[00:14:47] the luck catches up right yeah and I think I thought this was it and just catching up at the worst
[00:14:51] time it could have been caught up at Sheffield or something but it did it happened at old
[00:14:56] Trafford and that pressure finally got to I'm not saying he should be off the cuff of course
[00:15:00] it should be something definitely but I think the score should have just read five two six two six
[00:15:06] three instead of two all and you can't really blame Kwanzaa in the sense that he's too young for a
[00:15:13] pressure situation and a lot of Liverpool fans did blame Kwanzaa on his Instagram lots of hate
[00:15:17] he got and you had to restrict the comments on his Instagram which is just not nice to see you
[00:15:21] know he's a young player at the end of the day you know regardless of where you are in the
[00:15:25] title race and how much this results affects you I mean you should as a fan base be behind one of your
[00:15:33] own yeah and I think what fans don't get is that it probably affects him the most yeah like if there's
[00:15:39] if there's one person like you don't have to remind him yeah to be like hey man you need to
[00:15:44] feel shit about this because he feels worse than everybody else in the comment section
[00:15:49] combined so I think it's only better if we are kinder to him and that's one and also I would
[00:15:54] say actually blame them don't send hate but if you're to criticize someone in public or private
[00:15:58] conversion I think you should criticize Klopp for throwing him yeah when you had two options available
[00:16:03] and you could have maybe use one of the options for 16 minutes and then got on Kwanzaa for the last
[00:16:08] 30 or even just for one half but I thought it was too much to put him for I think almost 90
[00:16:13] minutes it was a bit too much pressure on the young kid yeah let's talk about that penalty
[00:16:18] then because after Kobe minus scores that brilliant goal very Federico Macheda as if you remember
[00:16:23] his strike against Aston Villa lovely finish cool as fuck celebration as well and it looked at that
[00:16:30] point that united were going to steal the three points and was there is that everybody would have
[00:16:38] no you don't say come on and all because on the whatsapp group you're like yeah there it is
[00:16:42] title done it's over united has done I still feel like I still feel like title is done that's
[00:16:47] fine but on the group you're all like yeah that's it after minus code you were like
[00:16:50] that's it we are done it's over and I had to tell you bro
[00:16:57] okay my craving was more about losing points no your innocence by losing the game you had
[00:17:04] accepted defeat way before the defeat even was cemented so you don't say come on it it did look
[00:17:11] at the time that united were gaining control of the match and going to one up was throwing Liverpool
[00:17:17] off their game a little bit but it was only in the last 5-10 minutes that Liverpool actually came back
[00:17:23] and it's really weird to see Aaron van Basaka make that mistake because usually he is fantastic on
[00:17:31] one-on-one he loves sliding in and 99% of the times he gets his slide tackles bang on whether
[00:17:37] they're in the box or outside the box he always gets them bang I mean I think
[00:17:44] it's hard to blame him because it's like it's like legs that I've run for 70 minutes versus
[00:17:48] legs that ran for like five minutes and from a much younger player I think it was just
[00:17:54] tired legs going for fresh legs but you know the way to stop them but you saw the penalty
[00:18:00] there was very very little contact almost if you see the zoomed in version of that yeah I was
[00:18:06] definitely there was a diving element involved like maybe I see I still think
[00:18:12] I've seen those we've seen those given as penalty so I'm not surprised or anything it's a penalty but
[00:18:17] I you have to even as a Liverpool fan say that earlier dived maybe that's good because maybe
[00:18:20] that's what convinced the referee in real time and all of that in fact in fact I in fact have a slightly
[00:18:27] different point of view on this and coming from a united fan I think you will be very very
[00:18:33] surprised to hear that I feel like it was a penalty it was definitely a penalty forget
[00:18:40] the fact that his front foot makes no contact and he jumps over it and takes the tumble so yes
[00:18:47] Harvey Elliott did definitely make a meal out of it and he made sure that he was going to get the
[00:18:51] penalty but in if you look at it outside of that it was a reckless challenge and there
[00:18:59] was a little bit of contact on the trailing leg yeah so you know it was one of those soft ones
[00:19:06] and can be debated ones and especially it's one of those ones that people will share on social media
[00:19:12] and zoom in in exactly what is happening zoom in oh your front foot has not touched only
[00:19:17] he's he's jumped over it without any content he's taken a dive and all and how can we be
[00:19:21] in fact over by VAR and all of that nonsense will happen he definitely overdid it and made
[00:19:28] sure that the referee gave the penalty with the the the lunge and the and the fall but it
[00:19:34] was still a penalty like if if the tables were turned and a Liverpool player did that exact same
[00:19:39] tackle on a man United player I would have been very very upset if that wasn't given as a penalty
[00:19:45] so I think it just works both ways so yeah it was I would have been quite upset if it wasn't
[00:19:50] given a penalty but I've given seen those been not given penalties especially this season
[00:19:57] um I think where Liverpool really messed up was actually the midfield I think Klopp's plan
[00:20:03] was kill the game in about 45-50 minutes and then send in defensive reinforcements and then
[00:20:08] if the gap is two goals they'll united probably score one goal but I think united weren't clinical
[00:20:12] enough yeah and I think it's what you said I think that midfield of Soboe's lie Endo and
[00:20:18] McAllister was just too attacking which just meant Liverpool was so open because I don't know
[00:20:24] if you notice Collin Bradley got a yellow I think quite early on in the game because of our
[00:20:28] attack because he was left alone and he had to I think make a ratchetackle or whatever right
[00:20:32] against Rashford um I think it was a big mistake not like playing Curtis Jones uh I think united
[00:20:39] completely played Kiosk well I think the tactic of I think what what what did they play 4-4-2
[00:20:45] what is it yeah is it of I think Anthony uh sorry Garnacho and Rashford play on top
[00:20:51] correct and then it's just behind them it's just just kick it to them and then they'll run
[00:20:59] and I think I think Klopp got it wrong he can't out chaos this team and he tried to attack attack
[00:21:05] attack and kill and it didn't work out so I think Klopp should actually get a lot of criticism
[00:21:09] for this match yeah yeah uh he was asked about the game in his post match and he said if
[00:21:16] united play like this against Arsenal Arsenal win hands down is that a day get man united or is
[00:21:22] that a day at Liverpool because is he saying that
[00:21:30] I think it's a great way to demotivate two rivals like you know yeah it's like wow how do you do
[00:21:37] it basically he wants demotivated 22 players basically he wants to win I'm the little coach
[00:21:43] he is like I kill you I tell me I kill everybody yeah um honestly I think Arsenal play Aston Villa
[00:21:52] next yeah yeah I would probably try and motivate Una Emery so like Emma come on Emery I know you're
[00:22:00] listening to this podcast yeah and you know Arsenal fans treated you so badly yeah right they abused
[00:22:07] you they gave you luck is that a noble my arm which is terrible I mean I'm sorry for that and they made
[00:22:13] from the accent which is not even in your control so I think come on Emery show them gunners who's the
[00:22:21] bazooka in town yeah I mean that is possibly one of the worst team talks I have ever heard I'm glad
[00:22:30] I'm glad that you're not a football coach and you are an author because I feel like that is
[00:22:34] that is where your talents truly lie and maybe you should stick to that Sam Alladies was seen at
[00:22:40] Old Trafford watching the game with Sajim Ratcliffe are we going to see a managerial change next
[00:22:46] season are you excited for this no no I'm not I remember we discussed what I think three four
[00:22:52] weeks ago about how 4-4-2 is back in England yeah right yeah and who better to bring back
[00:23:00] 4-4-2 ball than Sam Alladies I had united yeah because pretty much ended up playing some
[00:23:05] version of 4-4-2 anyway so I don't know what version of football they're playing but they're
[00:23:10] playing something they're playing something I don't know if it's 4-4-2 or whatever it is but
[00:23:16] yeah no he's just a good friend of Sir Alex Ferguson and he knows all these guys
[00:23:20] altogether and that's why he was there but I just hope I just hope not Eric Tanag on the other
[00:23:25] end has said that he is definitely going to be Man United manager next season I don't think he knows
[00:23:31] that that's not up to him he can't reject a firing me yeah he's like you're fired no I'm not no
[00:23:42] no I'm not I already told the media that I'm here next season so got on or that yeah yeah it's
[00:23:46] like I didn't make it to the school yeah come on come on you know how hard it is standard
[00:23:51] you'll see you'll see one more year one more year they're going to 9-7 so four exams
[00:23:54] board actually there are two more years board exam then we'll all go on summer vacation then you
[00:24:00] do whatever you want yeah but yes with that with that draw that Liverpool got against man united
[00:24:08] it is advantage Arsenal Arsenal are now top of the league and and they reach there because
[00:24:16] they beat Brighton at the amix stadium 3-0 firstly how was that game only 3-0 because it really should
[00:24:22] have been 10-10 or something you know 10 oh really 10-10 as in you think Brighton should have scored
[00:24:30] yeah Brighton had so many chances they were so good on the bridge they had chances but
[00:24:37] to me when I saw the game it felt like they could have played for 90 more minutes with a fresh
[00:24:41] pair of fresh 11 and it probably wouldn't have scored I don't know Brighton like I know they had
[00:24:46] shots and they had chances but it just didn't look like really the shots were so threatening that
[00:24:52] Arsenal would concede I honestly I honestly thought Zaby got Arsenal wrong a little bit I think
[00:24:59] I think where Arsenal panics because like I think if you used to play a much more defensive
[00:25:05] game right the longer the game goes on without a goal it suits Zaby because Arsenal gets more desperate
[00:25:12] because they have to keep scoring every game they can't afford to either not score goals or lose out
[00:25:16] on goal difference and the minute Arsenal gets desperate Zaby has them by the balls but I think
[00:25:21] Zaby did the big mistake of trying to go too attacking too early and I think Arsenal knows
[00:25:26] how to deal with that yeah it's such a good defensive side yeah yeah no I honestly felt that
[00:25:31] Brighton were damn good on the counter they were damn good on the break and they just
[00:25:35] required a little better finishing and they could have actually taken at least something out of the
[00:25:42] game maybe I mean maybe not even something out of the but at least they could have scored so
[00:25:47] I honestly do feel like Arsenal did have the better quality Saka coming back into the starting
[00:25:53] lineup also was a big boon he also scored the opening goal so you know back to business for him
[00:25:58] Leandro Trossa is the third goal in his own stomping round that was that must have been
[00:26:04] painful for Brighton fans to watch yeah I think Trosser and there's one more player right from
[00:26:10] Brighton right Ben White no but do actually have your ex-player come to your home again
[00:26:20] and score against you and then do that celebration which is like see see what you're missing
[00:26:25] which is embarrassing and I really expected better from this RBA especially considering that
[00:26:32] I think those rumors have quickly died out now it's just down to Amarim and Thiago Mota
[00:26:41] but yeah man Arsenal look like they're just not going to concede or like I'm like bro what
[00:26:48] happened like come on you know it's like I want to poke at the stick and be like where are the
[00:26:51] jokes yeah come on give us content guys you can't really be this good give us content give us something
[00:26:56] to make fun of it means it feels weird to play the Arsenal and and and not piss off Arsenal fans
[00:27:02] on this podcast but yeah and you know what I realized right so let's say it does look like
[00:27:07] Arsenal is on course to win the remaining seven games and there is a decent chance right less
[00:27:12] chance than Arsenal but a decent and a level winner say remaining seven game and you know how
[00:27:17] Klopp has achieved everything at Liverpool right Champions League Premier League coming twice second
[00:27:23] he has never come second on gold if yes and if he achieves that this season yeah that really is
[00:27:30] better than winning the quadruple if you think about it is that is that the is that the milestone
[00:27:36] that Klopp is going for in his farewell season it was never about the Premier League this season
[00:27:41] it was never about those trophies it was about what is the one
[00:27:44] it's about how unique yeah how unique can your record be right yeah have you come has a team ever
[00:27:53] lost on on a by one point twice and on goal difference yeah right and I'm guessing the
[00:28:00] goal difference will reduce so it's like it's about nine right now and hopefully it'll be
[00:28:04] under five so goal difference of four yeah so congratulations to Arsenal for putting Liverpool
[00:28:13] through that and giving Klopp that really wanted record you know but for all the good things that
[00:28:20] Mikhail Artehta has done at Arsenal and he has done a bunch of good things he's come in as a young
[00:28:24] manager he could be one of the youngest managers to win the Premier League of Arsenal actually
[00:28:27] win the Premier League this season which is which is a fantastic achievement he's changed
[00:28:31] the culture of the club he's made sure that the team that they have the players that they buy are
[00:28:36] young players so he's reduced the average age of the squad down as well he's he's set his
[00:28:43] philosophies in and the players are now buying into it but apart from all of that I think the
[00:28:47] biggest achievement that Artehta has done is that he's got Kai Havertz scoring goals because
[00:28:52] that did not look like a thing that would happen while he was at Chelsea and even in his first
[00:28:59] couple of weeks at Arsenal maybe a first couple of months at Arsenal it did not look like it was
[00:29:04] going to happen for the guy but he is now suddenly one of Artehta's most lethal finishers lethal
[00:29:11] finishes and he looks so fresh I think because he's only playing now and coming fresh you know
[00:29:16] you don't want to say he's like usually where like this there's always I think almost like the core
[00:29:21] players of every team that's competing for a title this sort of you know by the last eight
[00:29:27] games are exhausted and they're like okay you guys take over from the other players and whichever
[00:29:31] team has the best people to take over they end up winning right like I think for Liverpool it's
[00:29:35] Alexis McAster like Alistair to a certain extent but for Arsenal it's clearly Kai Havertz who's just
[00:29:42] yeah I mean he's energized I guess he's not re-energized because he was never
[00:29:45] worried of energy because he never played before but good time shit okay I should
[00:29:49] really stop insulting him no no he was very good he was damn it I just can't do this
[00:29:53] is the mowg I can't please that's okay it's fine you know what honestly this won't have happened if
[00:29:59] just Liverpool got those points when Odegaard handled the ball and Anfield and it became
[00:30:05] Nail Nailish my god sorry if if St. Butts were what's the saying if if St. Butts were
[00:30:11] potting pens what what the fuck what is that saying if St. Butts and potts and I don't know
[00:30:17] something but hindsight is a fantastic thing but if you can't praise Arsenal more I think
[00:30:27] we should neatly head towards a break because on the other side we have so much fun stuff to talk
[00:30:34] about there's there's yeah there's mental happenings at Tottenham Hotspur and at West Ham
[00:30:42] it's just going to be a fantastic second half and also we're going to be taking your questions
[00:30:47] so see you on the other side
[00:30:53] welcome back to the corner flag everybody and as always we begin the second half with your questions
[00:30:58] questions questions questions with the corner flag dude answers also huh
[00:31:08] all right so ganti.9 to us hey hey hey what was the score on Thursday night Amog
[00:31:14] yeah it was 4-3 he messaged also saying he's going to ask this question because of course Chelsea beat
[00:31:21] Man United 4-3 there's a reason why we don't do midweek podcasts and I think I figured out why
[00:31:27] it's not because we are lazy or we don't have time it's because these shitty results happen on
[00:31:32] the midweek and it's good to do the podcast at the end of the week or at the start of the
[00:31:36] new week when there's more results to talk about and then those shitty results can be put under
[00:31:41] the rug yeah and also you can I can understand why I didn't ask him that question because then he
[00:31:46] can just ask the same question back to me right and this is me going what's the score Amog and him
[00:31:51] going what's the score Mukesh and then the podcast becomes damn boring as opposed to now
[00:31:57] I'm excited yeah exactly PRS MUFC asks eight games to go who wins the PL I think seven games
[00:32:04] to go though um Arsenal win the piano yeah seven games Arsenal City Liverpool right it's Arsenal
[00:32:13] City Liverpool I would okay see I I remember a while ago I said I would like Man City to win
[00:32:23] but I am changing that I would really like Arsenal to win because I don't want Man City to do
[00:32:29] four in a row because that's never been done before let their three in a row stay I would also not like
[00:32:35] them to win a double treble so if they don't win the Premier League then obviously they are not
[00:32:40] in contention for the double treble I don't want Liverpool to win because 20 times 20 times Man United
[00:32:46] is a fantastic chant and I don't want to lose that chant so it would be gut wrenching if
[00:32:52] Liverpool won it I think the lesser of all three evils for me as an United fan is Arsenal so I'm
[00:32:57] going to wholeheartedly support Arsenal this season really a moksi right now you're dealing with
[00:33:04] one toxic fandom which is Liverpool from a United fans perspective and nothing from Man City's
[00:33:10] because they have no fans they have no fans right and now you're saying hey I want to give rise to
[00:33:15] another fandom to shit on me I'm just saying I I'm just saying I want to give Arsenal fans
[00:33:20] the benefit of the doubt like maybe they're nice people we never know like we never give them
[00:33:25] representation on this podcast so who knows maybe they're genuinely nice people maybe they'll want
[00:33:30] to take us out for brunch or something they could be those people you know and I would like to give
[00:33:35] them that chance and maybe if I wholeheartedly support them this season then they won't shit on
[00:33:40] me so yeah yeah that's how it works if you're nice enough to the assholes they probably won't
[00:33:49] exactly that's what I did all through high school
[00:33:57] Ashwin underscore 040 asks I have to watch our teta win the league now
[00:34:05] sadly yes Ashwin sadly yes sadly yes I just want to know how many people are going to
[00:34:12] be the celebration police for him because they did that when I think it was the the victory or
[00:34:18] something against Liverpool only you know and he celebrated and then everybody's like oh what is he
[00:34:22] doing this is not a type of celebration you do when you just want to game it's the type of celebration
[00:34:28] you do when you won the league when Audegarde was taking photos of the club photographer and all
[00:34:33] so I don't know the celebration celebration police will be out in in full force if they do
[00:34:37] win but it would be nice here to see a young manager win it that's true yeah fair enough
[00:34:45] whatever VST underscore 10 asks what makes someone an everton fan
[00:34:53] self sabotage as akash has put made clear multiple times it is it is I actually have the opposite
[00:35:01] theory which is I think Akash is too happy in life okay I think he needs something to do
[00:35:09] I think Akash has achieved us achieved a state he has achieved a state of bliss
[00:35:16] and you know like that final buddhist buddhism state of whatever it is zen state yeah and now
[00:35:23] he's like I need something to remind me that sadness exists yeah and what better than choosing
[00:35:29] to something that could constantly give me sadness yeah I think everton is akash's reverse dopamine
[00:35:35] basically yeah akash is too alpha on alpha himself he's a put saboted yeah those are our
[00:35:45] theories for you VST no um
[00:35:50] akash go swami asks do you guys think we are is actually ruining the game rather improving it
[00:35:56] yeah yeah and it's not because of the technology it's because of the way it's implemented at
[00:36:01] least in the premier league because the people who are running it are just terrible and maybe it's not
[00:36:06] even there for maybe it's just the rules that that are there now that are just so hard to interpret
[00:36:12] that it leaves everything up to imagination which is basically everything is
[00:36:15] decided to
[00:36:27] yeah but no in general
[00:36:32] asks us another two-point deduction for everything do we see them relegating this season
[00:36:38] yeah so now that is faith that is so that is the news that is the the latest breaking news because
[00:36:44] this news broke just before we started recording which is that everton have been handed a further
[00:36:50] two-point deduction i'm just going to check how that affects their league table uh right now
[00:36:58] where they are in the league let me just pull up the table uh everton are
[00:37:06] are still in 16th place on 27 points uh with a game in hand over nottingham forest who are
[00:37:15] below them in 17th place at 25 points so no i don't think they'll get relegated still uh it is
[00:37:21] it is just absurd that these point deductions happen in installments and i really was hoping
[00:37:26] that akash could join us on the podcast tonight to talk about it but unfortunately he's not here
[00:37:30] and he is the the guy to talk about when it comes to everton's point deduction because uh frankly who
[00:37:37] else gives a shit in terms of everton who's going to follow that no but uh i have said this before as
[00:37:43] well like it is ridiculous for the premier league to hand out points reductions especially in these
[00:37:48] installments
[00:37:50] fair char points what is leo fair doh points what is the color like a boat
[00:37:55] but we need your hand in the middle of the season that is just ridiculous whatever it is
[00:38:00] whatever the punishment is handed out at the beginning of the season or handed out
[00:38:04] for the beginning of the next season so you start next season with a minus eight
[00:38:09] points deficit or whatever it is but don't let that affect the current season the way it's
[00:38:13] going because that just fucks it up yeah and also it gives no sense of security to the
[00:38:20] matches right like right now there's no matter what happens in a match the outcome of a match is
[00:38:25] a respective yeah right so unless the and literally unless the crime is and it's been proven where it's
[00:38:32] like match fixing we has or something of that or doping as it happened in italy where champions
[00:38:36] were stripped off and the second place positions were given the title you don't do something
[00:38:41] like this like no matter what happens like even even even during games where the cheating has
[00:38:46] been very very obvious like that famous jelsie versus barcelona game uh back in 2009 where it was
[00:38:52] open like very easy to the naked eye even that there's cheating happening and some shitty
[00:38:56] decision making but you just accept the decision and you move on yeah right similarly in the recent
[00:39:02] past so many decisions have gone in favor of city against Liverpool against arsnell against
[00:39:07] everton like akash has repeatedly pointed out how many decisions go against any team that's not
[00:39:10] in the top six but you still respect that game and now this just seems like a new factor
[00:39:15] that players and managers have to worry about that is beyond their job playing for the tactics in
[00:39:21] games and it's very mixed it really makes football less about the actual sport and so much about
[00:39:26] these outside factors which aren't fun actually yeah right uh so yeah uh i think it's a very very
[00:39:33] shitty um approach uh it's a it's a very griffin or winston points slitherin wins five
[00:39:40] points yeah approach and it's very very gross and also the just sheer mockery of man city having
[00:39:46] 115 charges which is actually one more charge than the number of points you can win if you won all
[00:39:57] right um and still losing so i don't know i think i'm hoping somewhere there's a part of me that
[00:40:03] says hopefully that's that's the real um thing right which is that those charges get proven man city
[00:40:10] gets stripped of those titles and then whoever came second in those seasons wins that i think the
[00:40:15] premier league right now with all these points deductions are always like a massive marvel
[00:40:19] cinematic universe because you know how in marvel movies and tv shows everything leads up to like
[00:40:24] one showpiece event to like avengers endgame or whatever so i feel all these not in forest
[00:40:29] everton points deductions points giving back then again for the points reduction and all is all
[00:40:34] leading up to 115 charges for man city and how that is going to explode uh but uh it just honestly
[00:40:42] doesn't feel like anything is going to happen with man city basically they're trying to do everything
[00:40:45] to make sure that man city are protected but everybody else is fun so you know it's just a
[00:40:52] a terrible place to be if you're a fan of any of these teams which granted not many people
[00:40:57] in india are i don't think there's any nottingham forest fans in india and there's four everton
[00:41:02] fans in india akash being one of them so you know but for the fans of these clubs who actually
[00:41:08] live in the cities that these clubs are based in it it's it's not it's not a great feeling
[00:41:13] obviously and it's not great for the league in general because yeah it's just unnecessary
[00:41:19] jeopardy like the sporting jeopardy that a sporting league presents is what it should
[00:41:24] all be about like all of this addition subtraction what nature here leaky beach man h a i'm not saying
[00:41:30] that don't punish these teams for for their financial misgivings they should be punished
[00:41:36] because at the end of the day you don't want to see clubs go into administration because
[00:41:41] they're run very very very badly there has to be a sporting punishment for a crime like that for
[00:41:47] sure but that should also be done and decided and appealed against and ratified in the off
[00:41:53] season so that the next season you either start off with a clean slate or with a points reduction
[00:41:59] and then you build up from there but nothing should happen in the middle of the season
[00:42:05] yeah and final question is from dark horse coolers five who says predictions on the ucl
[00:42:12] quarter finals draw i mean i have them in front of me now let's go let's go quickly
[00:42:21] arson bayon who do you think is gonna win it'll be a draw first leg will be a draw second leg by
[00:42:28] no no okay but who do you think in between the not this match but in general over the two legs
[00:42:32] who do you think is going to go through by him okay i say arson madrid city who do you think
[00:42:38] is going to go through i think madrid they have they have revenge they have revenge on their mind
[00:42:44] uh psc barcelona who do you think is going to go through pst
[00:42:51] barcelona um atletico dot mint who's going to go through atletico okay mogan i completely
[00:42:58] disagree on every result every match outcome so yeah and again this is not planned so
[00:43:05] this is drama that's happening because life decided so um so yeah with that we're done
[00:43:10] with the questions for today thank you thank you so much for writing in we love listening to
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[00:43:23] slash at the rate corner flag pod right let's head over to north london spurs three
[00:43:29] nottingham forest one lots happening in this game firstly like you alluded to earlier on
[00:43:35] in the first half a man was indeed found dead very close to the tottenham hot spur stadium
[00:43:41] uh and spurs in a statement says yeah i think
[00:43:54] but yes very very sad to know that there was a victim of a knife crime who was attended
[00:44:00] to by first responders and was given cpr but was pronounced dead on arrival at the local
[00:44:06] hospital um it's just terrible how many how many violent criminal activities are are going on in
[00:44:12] london um and uh that is not to say uh only the the stabbings that have happened outside
[00:44:19] the tottenham hot spur stadium but also the punchings that have happened inside because
[00:44:23] james madison completely punched ryan yates in the stomach
[00:44:29] and nothing happened um yeah i don't know this is uh again terrible refereeing decision
[00:44:36] and it's i feel like hey these sort of decisions right back in the day and i don't mean like i guess
[00:44:42] i am and we are going to sound very old yeah she said back in the day i remember if a foul
[00:44:48] looked this obvious it was given right like i don't remember such obvious fouls being errors
[00:44:52] pre-vr do you think no no no i think with vr i think all the errors are more pronounced because you
[00:44:59] expect them to rectify those errors uh and and with the with the advent of technology also there's
[00:45:05] so many camera angles there's so many high definition camera angles we see everything in
[00:45:10] minute detail there's social media so you're seeing fan reactions from the stands catching
[00:45:16] certain things that are happening that the tv cameras can't catch so there's a lot more spotlight
[00:45:20] on these minor minor incidents and i feel like the whole point of vr is to use that technology to
[00:45:26] actually see and call out these incidents that the referee who is just one man in the middle
[00:45:31] of the pitch managing a game of 22 players with like say 60 000 people shouting which is not an
[00:45:36] easy job but the technology is there to help that one guy do his job better right now if
[00:45:42] you're going to hamstring the technology and be like no no but vr can only come into effect if there is
[00:45:46] a clear and obvious error and if there is enough evidence of violent conduct then she punched him
[00:45:54] in the stomach what more evidence of violent conduct do you need having said that a team that
[00:46:00] said yeah kickoff will go on on time even when there was a man found dead near the stadium
[00:46:06] what more can you expect right like in terms of what is violent conduct somebody who got stabbed
[00:46:12] was not deemed important enough to to delay kickoff so yeah there but i just really just
[00:46:19] it's i wouldn't say it's terrible refereeing by the referee in the middle it is terrible vr
[00:46:26] by the vr people because they really should have caught and it wasn't even like it happened
[00:46:31] off the camera it was clearly in view of the cameras they wouldn't even need to shift angles or
[00:46:38] anything and he's clearly seen punching him to the point where hotstar's highlights maybe were
[00:46:43] what dikhaya tha hotstar's highlights may have said they don't show certain things that are
[00:46:50] slightly violent or anything if they're too violent if there's a streaker on the pitch
[00:46:54] or something they don't show that they nicely very conveniently stay away from that but hotstar
[00:46:59] highlights also showed this that's when you know a decision is shit if like vr hotstar
[00:47:06] can catch it and slow down and make it obvious that's when you know your shit i feel like in the
[00:47:13] in the in the games that are coming up i think everybody should be allowed to punch one player
[00:47:18] and get away with it like every team can nominate one player to punch another player
[00:47:24] as a free hit quite literally yeah free look at ip l is coming up on you
[00:47:32] getting into it getting into it but yeah fantastic i don't know if there's going to be
[00:47:36] retrospective action on this uh but we'll see three one victory though great goals from uh
[00:47:42] from mickey van de wijn and uh petro poro also adding to it over to sheffield versus
[00:47:49] chelsea 2 2 again this is how amazingly box office chelsea you would think that after beating man united
[00:47:56] 4 3 they would suddenly find some semblance of momentum uh and especially when they're going
[00:48:04] up against a team like sheffield united 4 very easily and unarguably the worst team in the league
[00:48:10] this season and they still drop points at a last minute equalizer like it's not even that
[00:48:18] sheffield got lucky with his tricky goal in the first half and we just did 10 0 formation and they
[00:48:24] started to see chelsea will like 2 1 up and i think a 90 second or 93rd minute is when sheffield scored
[00:48:33] right and how do you let a last minute equalizer from a team like sheffield united uh unbelievable
[00:48:40] and especially after coming off of so much adrenaline unless chelsea players get cocky
[00:48:46] and get deflated i think that is definitely the case that is definitely the case that's just there was a
[00:48:51] there was a lovely article that i read the headline of the article was morisio pajatino explains what
[00:48:56] the club needs to do in the summer transfer window and just by looking at that headline i was like
[00:49:03] don't buy more players jo hai to use karo yaunko becho pehle becho fir socho
[00:49:11] pehle becho uh but yeah and give some players to other players yes it's uh it's shambles it's
[00:49:17] absolute shambles but there is there is a talk that tot boli might be removed as chelsea ceo by
[00:49:22] clear lake partners who are the holding company that owns chelsea um so all of his uh naughtiness
[00:49:29] might be on its way out and we might see a slightly reformed and more strategically organized
[00:49:36] chelsea next season i hope so because i would love to see tot boli had loved to see chelsea the way
[00:49:43] they're going i was going to start a petition to keep tot boli in a job no because i think remember
[00:49:48] when tot boli came i think he had said there is a grand plan that they have or some secret master
[00:49:54] plan that up his sleeve and i think the secret master plan it's for him it's not for the club
[00:50:00] because he gets fired he still gets the big package that he was offered and he just makes a club look
[00:50:07] like an idiot and how does it matter to him whether chelsea wants or not when he gets millions and
[00:50:12] billions yeah yeah there we go right uh to quickly wrap up this episode wools one west ham two really
[00:50:19] i mean james wadprouse 84th minute the man is now scoring from corners and i bring this up
[00:50:26] only because i've wanted to give you some semblance of joy before we end this episode
[00:50:32] as a long time james wadprouse supporter and uh james wadprouse admirer you must be very happy
[00:50:41] because the man has clearly mastered free kicks and now he's mastering corners as well scoring
[00:50:46] straight from a corner we don't usually see that happen and what a useful english player to
[00:50:55] have in your team would you take him right what would you put him in the england squad for the
[00:50:59] euros you know what i think he will be one of the because see tournament games are all about
[00:51:07] going for the win right you don't you don't go for the draw right unless you're clearly facing
[00:51:12] someone much better than you and i think given england they are the better team uh compared to
[00:51:17] most teams uh and i think given that it's all going to be about an attack if i was out
[00:51:23] gate i would he would be at the 60th at 70th minute in in case the game is a draw but if you're winning
[00:51:29] obviously if uh they're winning obviously not but if a game is one all or a nil nil and you need
[00:51:35] i think wadprouse will be one of the first substitutes i would bring on and i would just
[00:51:39] tell him you're defending until it's a free kick or a con and he knows and that's the memo he
[00:51:44] gets simple instructions he gets absolutely we'll see what happens but fantastic stuff
[00:51:50] by james wadprouse also wolves almost equalized in the dying minutes of the game uh uh max killman's
[00:51:58] header was judged to be offside which was given as a subjective offside uh which basically
[00:52:04] blurs the line between fact and fiction and we've been told that offside is a rule
[00:52:08] which is basically fact you're either offside or you're not but this one was given as a
[00:52:13] subjective offside because one of the wolves players was blocking uh the west end goalkeeper
[00:52:19] when the header went in and it's just again like i i just don't understand this rule anymore
[00:52:26] i'm over it's beyond us it's beyond us it's just it's finally just to accept what
[00:52:31] about i feel like you know that stage of uh feeling bad about it or also over now
[00:52:38] it's just it's fury is over frustration is over now it's just fuck it yeah absolutely it is
[00:52:46] just fuck it and yes on that note let's fuck it let's end this episode thank you so much everybody
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