Here we go again. Another matchweek, another disappointing result for Man United fans. Amogh needed some moral support, and so we had Animesh Thakkar and Ronaq Vikamsey from the Man United Supporters Group of Mumbai on the show!
We take a deep dive into the problems at Man United and wonder if it's the players at fault or the manager, and if sacking Erik Ten Hag right now makes any sense. Also, if not ETH then who?!
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[00:00:00] Van Nissenroy, Kukul, Allegri or could it be Phil Neville? Welcome to The Corner Flag, I'm Amogh.
[00:00:06] I'm Mukesh. I'm Raunak. And I'm Animesh.
[00:00:16] Welcome to the show everybody. Joining us today are Animesh and Raunak.
[00:00:20] They have been on The Corner Flag before. They are of course from the Manchester United Mumbai supporters group,
[00:00:25] members of the supporters group, YouTube channel, Football Bloody Hell, all-round nice people.
[00:00:32] And I just thought today was the perfect day for me to have some extra emotional, physical, mental support.
[00:00:41] Because it's gotten so bad that Animesh and Raunak have been kind enough to wear their United jerseys on this recording.
[00:00:49] I'm wearing a Furentina jersey today. It's all day.
[00:00:54] Shit, you know what this feels like to me?
[00:00:56] You know when you make fun of a kid too much, he comes with his elder brother and the elder brother's friends.
[00:01:02] I feel like the elder brother's friends are also losers in this scenario.
[00:01:08] Not saying that Animesh and Raunak you guys are losers,
[00:01:11] but just saying that we are unfortunately following a losing club or a drawing club as it turned out this weekend against Rastad Vida.
[00:01:22] Yeah.
[00:01:23] Mikesh is here. Mikesh is our resident Liverpool fan.
[00:01:28] So, he's just going to be enjoying this therapy session.
[00:01:33] He is going to be chiming in with ridiculous hot takes till we decide to give him some talking time on the Liverpool result against Crystal Palace later on in the show.
[00:01:43] Much later on in the show.
[00:01:45] But yes, we start off with that result which was Man United 0, Aston Villa 0 or Villa 0, Man United 0 considering it was at Villa Park.
[00:01:54] Coming off the back of a 3-3 draw in the Europa League against FC 20.
[00:02:01] Sorry, against...
[00:02:02] Fuck, I've forgotten who the team was now.
[00:02:05] Porto, Porto and...
[00:02:07] Porto.
[00:02:08] Porto.
[00:02:09] Porto?
[00:02:09] 2-2 was FC 20 and 3-3 was...
[00:02:14] 1-1 was 20.
[00:02:15] 1-1.
[00:02:15] They could see this is what...
[00:02:17] There's so many draws.
[00:02:19] Fucking...
[00:02:20] And against Porto, it was a 2-0 lead that we gave up and managed to salvage a 3-3 draw.
[00:02:28] Yeah, Animesh, let's start off with you.
[00:02:31] Coming back to the Premier League result, should United fans and United as a club be happy that we got a point against Aston Villa away from home?
[00:02:41] Context.
[00:02:41] Context.
[00:02:41] With all the context that we have, no.
[00:02:44] But if you asked me after Crystal Palace, I would have taken a Porto and a Villa draw.
[00:02:49] They're not bad results any time of the year, any season, right?
[00:02:53] You tell someone Champions League away, Porto draw.
[00:02:56] I mean, you should win but a draw is not bad.
[00:02:59] Fenerbahce draw, hostile Turkey.
[00:03:01] Okay, fine.
[00:03:03] But then you lose to Tottenham at home the way you did, right?
[00:03:06] It wasn't losing to Liverpool.
[00:03:07] Liverpool, United fans could have forgiven and they kind of got over it maybe.
[00:03:10] Yeah.
[00:03:13] Then you come into a Villa which doesn't have Onana, which has been like a pivotal main player for them, right?
[00:03:18] Yeah.
[00:03:18] Yeah.
[00:03:19] And then you tell me, he passed the message along.
[00:03:21] I am sacking my players.
[00:03:23] Not to rotate.
[00:03:25] He's just trying to pull a point, right?
[00:03:27] Yeah.
[00:03:28] And look, we could have won.
[00:03:31] We're not great but Villa won great either.
[00:03:33] It was a battle of two very tired teams from their European escapades.
[00:03:39] Ours was not losing and ours was beating Bayern Munich.
[00:03:42] So that's the quality of two teams right now.
[00:03:46] But yeah, I mean, okay.
[00:03:50] I would still say I am happy and I might be called delusional because Villa draw is not bad.
[00:03:55] We beat them twice last year.
[00:03:57] Should have beaten them.
[00:03:58] Could have beaten them 1-0.
[00:03:59] If Ghanachar knew how to pass the ball, he forgot and he went and became prime Jesse Lingard.
[00:04:06] Talking about the rotation, in the game against Porto, Delict and Martinez started in defense
[00:04:13] and they were heavily criticized for their performance because it was quite shambolic, the defending.
[00:04:19] And that's not something you expect from players like Matiz Delict and Lissandro Martinez
[00:04:23] who are supposed to be our starting center-half choices, right?
[00:04:26] Like that is the center-half partnership that Ten Hag wanted, that the fans were excited about.
[00:04:31] And we were like, fuck, finally an upgrade from Maguire and Evans.
[00:04:36] And they played so badly that Ten Hag had to put Maguire and Evans
[00:04:39] and they ended up keeping a clean sheet and doing on paper a much better job
[00:04:43] including Johnny Evans who is a 36-year-old returnee to Man United
[00:04:48] who is playing like his prime Rio Ferdinand.
[00:04:51] Wait, guys, was he your best defender?
[00:04:53] Not even your best player, but was he the best defender for sure for United?
[00:04:57] Johnny Evans in the game?
[00:04:59] Yeah.
[00:04:59] In the game, yeah.
[00:05:00] Yeah, he did well.
[00:05:02] Wow.
[00:05:03] I mean, you know, it was a surprise.
[00:05:05] So after the Porto game, those, I mean, Delict and Martinez,
[00:05:11] they need to find some synergy between them because they're both
[00:05:15] not able to cover each other's asses, so to say.
[00:05:18] And, you know, I mean, I give credit to the Porto striker,
[00:05:21] that Samu guy who was, I don't know, six feet, seven inches tall,
[00:05:24] I don't know, somehow.
[00:05:25] And he was just so strong, so bullish.
[00:05:28] He absolutely manhandled every single United defender.
[00:05:31] Yeah.
[00:05:32] So that was absolutely crazy.
[00:05:33] But we should have held on to the 2-0 lead.
[00:05:36] And at least made something more out of it, man.
[00:05:39] Like we were so, so brittle in the second half.
[00:05:42] That guy just absolutely killed us.
[00:05:44] Yeah.
[00:05:45] And coming into the Aston Villa game and I saw the lineup,
[00:05:47] I was like, okay, Tenag is asking for the sack.
[00:05:50] I mean, you know, you put in Maguire and you put in Evans
[00:05:54] against Morgan Rogers and Ollie Watkins.
[00:05:57] Both of them are very fast and, you know,
[00:05:58] like to get in behind the defender.
[00:06:00] I thought we were going in for a hammering.
[00:06:04] And like a very bad performance.
[00:06:06] I was almost set for it.
[00:06:07] But honestly, the nil-nil draw is just,
[00:06:10] it's more credit to Villa's lack of finishing.
[00:06:13] I'm not saying we were shit, but we were nowhere near good.
[00:06:17] I mean, I know we had the final 96th, 95th minute counter
[00:06:20] where Garnaccio should have passed that ball
[00:06:22] and we could have won the game.
[00:06:24] But, you know, like it's just those individual moments
[00:06:26] that we're piling for every game.
[00:06:27] We don't have a set structure.
[00:06:28] We don't even attack 90 minutes of the game.
[00:06:32] You know, we have like barely few phases in the game
[00:06:35] where we find some counter-attacking rhythm
[00:06:37] or the other team just, you know, loses a bit of gas.
[00:06:39] And I think we really need to have some change.
[00:06:42] I don't know in the management,
[00:06:44] in the, like in players' performances,
[00:06:47] in players' tactics, in their work rate.
[00:06:50] I don't know what it is, man.
[00:06:51] But this is tiring.
[00:06:53] It's tiring to be a United fan.
[00:06:54] It is very tiring.
[00:06:56] So tiring that I have stopped watching late-night kickoffs
[00:07:00] in the Europa League
[00:07:01] because it is just not worth it staying up till 2.33 a.m.
[00:07:05] to see that sort of level of performance
[00:07:08] from the team that you support
[00:07:09] because not only is your sleep for the night ruined,
[00:07:12] your next morning is also ruined.
[00:07:14] So, it's just not worth it.
[00:07:16] You can have it doing a little less
[00:07:17] by watching the highlights.
[00:07:19] But that 3-3 game looked fun.
[00:07:21] I mean, losing the lead part
[00:07:24] looked like a fun game.
[00:07:25] I mean, if you're not a United supporter,
[00:07:27] it was a fun game
[00:07:28] because who doesn't want to see a team
[00:07:31] go 2-0 up in like, what, 20-25 minutes
[00:07:34] then lose it to go back to 2-2
[00:07:37] get into a losing position at 3-2
[00:07:39] and then finally have Harry Maguire, of all people,
[00:07:43] equalize and stop its time to make it 3-3.
[00:07:45] For the neutral, I completely agree with you.
[00:07:47] That was a fantastic game.
[00:07:50] Have you seen Brentford's last few games
[00:07:52] how they've been scoring really early?
[00:07:54] Like the first, second minute,
[00:07:55] they're scoring and it's madness.
[00:07:57] And like this game,
[00:07:58] I think the recent game,
[00:07:59] I forgot who it was against.
[00:08:01] But they got the goal in the second minute.
[00:08:03] Like one minute in 14, 15 seconds.
[00:08:05] You should see those first few minutes.
[00:08:07] Like they have nothing on their mind
[00:08:10] but just put the ball in that half
[00:08:11] and we'll figure something out.
[00:08:13] And I don't see that urgency
[00:08:15] to score a goal
[00:08:16] across 90 minutes in a United game.
[00:08:19] Yeah.
[00:08:19] And that is just like,
[00:08:21] that's the statement that defines United right now.
[00:08:25] Yeah.
[00:08:25] That urgency to score a goal is just not there.
[00:08:28] Of course, all that urgency
[00:08:29] or the pattern of play
[00:08:31] or the team selections,
[00:08:32] of course,
[00:08:33] comes down to the man in the hot seat.
[00:08:35] It comes down to the manager,
[00:08:37] Eric Ten Hag.
[00:08:38] And just going back to
[00:08:39] Johnny Evans' performance,
[00:08:40] Johnny Evans also said that
[00:08:42] the talk of Eric Ten Hag sacking
[00:08:44] has been playing on the mind
[00:08:46] of the players as well.
[00:08:48] Now,
[00:08:49] so let's shift focus to that
[00:08:51] for a little bit.
[00:08:52] Eric Ten Hag in or out
[00:08:53] has been a question
[00:08:54] that I feel we have been asking each other
[00:08:56] for ages now.
[00:08:57] Over his three years
[00:08:58] in charge of Man United,
[00:09:00] we've asked that question
[00:09:01] every other week almost,
[00:09:02] I feel like.
[00:09:03] And in the middle of that,
[00:09:03] how did he get two trophies?
[00:09:05] But it is,
[00:09:07] like you said,
[00:09:08] Ronak,
[00:09:08] it is coming to a point
[00:09:09] where you're almost wondering
[00:09:10] as a fact,
[00:09:11] does he actually want to get sacked
[00:09:12] with the kind of play
[00:09:14] that he's making,
[00:09:15] with the kind of teams
[00:09:15] that he's selecting?
[00:09:17] Is it,
[00:09:18] is it
[00:09:20] in the club's best interest
[00:09:21] to sack this manager
[00:09:22] at this point of time
[00:09:23] or should they have sacked him
[00:09:24] a long time ago
[00:09:25] or what,
[00:09:26] what can be done?
[00:09:29] See,
[00:09:30] honestly,
[00:09:30] like I feel
[00:09:31] until,
[00:09:31] up until the end
[00:09:32] of last season
[00:09:33] and even the start
[00:09:34] of this season,
[00:09:34] I was fairly on Ten Hag's side
[00:09:37] because I thought
[00:09:38] that he did require
[00:09:39] some time,
[00:09:40] some better reinforcements
[00:09:41] in the summer
[00:09:42] and a better structure
[00:09:43] in the club
[00:09:43] to,
[00:09:44] you know,
[00:09:45] have better performances.
[00:09:47] But I,
[00:09:48] I question his decisions
[00:09:49] lately
[00:09:50] and there have been
[00:09:51] way too many decisions
[00:09:52] that I question,
[00:09:53] especially like things
[00:09:54] like taking Rashford off
[00:09:57] at halftime
[00:09:57] and then not giving Ahmad
[00:09:59] even a single minute
[00:10:00] against Villa
[00:10:01] is,
[00:10:02] he's been one of your
[00:10:03] best performance,
[00:10:04] performers on the wing
[00:10:05] and you don't even play him.
[00:10:07] Like,
[00:10:07] I,
[00:10:08] I don't know how to
[00:10:09] defend Ten Hag anymore
[00:10:10] and honestly,
[00:10:11] at this point,
[00:10:11] I just have more trust
[00:10:12] in Ineos
[00:10:13] as a structure,
[00:10:14] like our higher above
[00:10:16] structure,
[00:10:16] I feel is a little bit
[00:10:17] better
[00:10:17] and I just have to
[00:10:19] kind of trust them
[00:10:20] to take a decision
[00:10:21] and kind of stick with it.
[00:10:22] But guys,
[00:10:23] from what I have read
[00:10:24] a little bit
[00:10:24] that United is still
[00:10:25] creating big chances,
[00:10:27] right?
[00:10:27] It's not like they're
[00:10:27] not creating the big chances
[00:10:29] but because
[00:10:30] it's also weirdly
[00:10:31] a self-fulfilling prophecy,
[00:10:33] right?
[00:10:33] Imagine you're a player
[00:10:34] and this big thought
[00:10:35] is that,
[00:10:35] fuck,
[00:10:36] if I don't score this goal,
[00:10:37] this guy's gonna get fired,
[00:10:38] right?
[00:10:39] So then that's why
[00:10:40] they're not finishing it
[00:10:41] which means he's probably
[00:10:42] gonna get fired
[00:10:43] but then it adds more pleasure.
[00:10:45] Like,
[00:10:45] if there's a clear statement
[00:10:46] saying like,
[00:10:47] hey boss,
[00:10:48] you are going to,
[00:10:49] you're at this job,
[00:10:51] right?
[00:10:51] Let's say you're at this job
[00:10:52] for this season.
[00:10:54] If a player has come out
[00:10:56] and said,
[00:10:56] it's playing on our minds,
[00:10:58] right?
[00:11:00] That means,
[00:11:01] if a player says it,
[00:11:01] that means it's like
[00:11:02] heavy on their mind.
[00:11:03] It's not just,
[00:11:04] by the time it comes up
[00:11:05] to the surface,
[00:11:06] there's a lot more underneath.
[00:11:07] Whereas,
[00:11:08] if there's clarity
[00:11:08] that he's not gonna get fired
[00:11:10] because right now
[00:11:11] it looks like
[00:11:11] they're getting into that
[00:11:12] place where they can't shoot
[00:11:13] but they're not shooting
[00:11:15] because they're like,
[00:11:15] fuck,
[00:11:15] this is terrifying.
[00:11:16] If I miss,
[00:11:17] I don't want to be the guy
[00:11:17] who misses,
[00:11:17] you shoot.
[00:11:18] Because you shoot,
[00:11:19] you shoot
[00:11:20] and then
[00:11:21] everyone,
[00:11:21] nothing really happens
[00:11:22] and you have to wait
[00:11:23] for Maguire to do
[00:11:23] something crazy.
[00:11:25] Our finishing has been
[00:11:27] terrible
[00:11:28] for the last
[00:11:29] so many seasons.
[00:11:30] I feel like
[00:11:31] you can coach
[00:11:32] finishing of course
[00:11:33] but if your manager
[00:11:35] is the guy
[00:11:35] who's getting you
[00:11:36] till the finishing point,
[00:11:38] like till the finishing point,
[00:11:39] not literally finishing point
[00:11:40] but till the point
[00:11:41] where you can finish
[00:11:42] a shot,
[00:11:43] then I don't know
[00:11:44] how much can you
[00:11:45] blame him,
[00:11:46] right?
[00:11:46] You see what happens
[00:11:47] with Chelsea right now,
[00:11:48] right?
[00:11:48] They've gotten just
[00:11:49] a little bit calmer.
[00:11:50] They just calmer
[00:11:51] for one extra second.
[00:11:53] Everybody's calmer
[00:11:53] for one extra second
[00:11:54] and that's it.
[00:11:56] But I think
[00:11:57] United's doing
[00:11:57] the opposite thing
[00:11:58] where they're like,
[00:11:58] let's add more pressure.
[00:12:01] It's clearly looking
[00:12:02] like that's not going
[00:12:03] to work because
[00:12:03] like I said,
[00:12:04] a player has publicly
[00:12:05] said it
[00:12:05] and this is there
[00:12:06] currently the
[00:12:07] calmest,
[00:12:08] not only is the best
[00:12:09] but I'm guessing
[00:12:10] you're calmest player
[00:12:11] at some level.
[00:12:13] If he's saying,
[00:12:15] bro,
[00:12:15] it's playing on our heads,
[00:12:16] I mean,
[00:12:16] I can't even,
[00:12:17] Garnacho and Hoyland
[00:12:18] must be like
[00:12:19] shitting,
[00:12:20] like they must be
[00:12:20] scared,
[00:12:21] man.
[00:12:21] Imagine a player
[00:12:22] pressure on a 21-year-old
[00:12:23] who's like,
[00:12:24] if you don't shoot
[00:12:25] this goal,
[00:12:26] Ten Hag gets fired
[00:12:27] and his kids
[00:12:27] can't go to school.
[00:12:30] It's like,
[00:12:31] oh man,
[00:12:32] and they probably
[00:12:32] play with those kids
[00:12:33] during Christmas
[00:12:34] and they're like,
[00:12:34] shit,
[00:12:35] that kid's face
[00:12:36] comes to mind
[00:12:36] and his wife
[00:12:37] has bought
[00:12:37] some new car
[00:12:38] or something.
[00:12:38] I'm like,
[00:12:39] what is that
[00:12:40] pressure on a
[00:12:41] 21-year-old Hoyland,
[00:12:42] man?
[00:12:44] Kobe,
[00:12:44] Kobe,
[00:12:44] my name has
[00:12:45] to go give
[00:12:45] his exams
[00:12:45] the next day
[00:12:46] and he's like,
[00:12:46] shit,
[00:12:47] man,
[00:12:47] my teacher's
[00:12:47] like probably
[00:12:48] under less stress
[00:12:49] than Eric Tanag
[00:12:49] and like,
[00:12:51] walking in,
[00:12:52] handling all of this.
[00:12:53] No,
[00:12:54] it's crazy.
[00:12:55] It's our intensity
[00:12:56] is just not
[00:12:56] there in the final
[00:12:57] third.
[00:12:57] Are we going
[00:12:58] to be like,
[00:12:59] it is his fault.
[00:13:01] Benny McCarthy
[00:13:02] out,
[00:13:03] who do I
[00:13:03] need to go in?
[00:13:04] Lo and behold
[00:13:05] eight,
[00:13:05] nine games later,
[00:13:06] still the same,
[00:13:07] right?
[00:13:07] And like you
[00:13:08] said,
[00:13:08] bang on,
[00:13:09] right?
[00:13:10] After a certain
[00:13:10] point,
[00:13:11] the manager's
[00:13:11] getting you.
[00:13:12] We are still
[00:13:13] creating two
[00:13:14] or three big
[00:13:14] chances in a
[00:13:15] game,
[00:13:15] not against
[00:13:17] 20,
[00:13:18] not Tottenham,
[00:13:19] but we mostly
[00:13:20] create big
[00:13:20] chances.
[00:13:20] We just don't
[00:13:21] finish them.
[00:13:22] Sometimes when
[00:13:23] you feel like
[00:13:23] everyone is so
[00:13:24] negative,
[00:13:24] like you
[00:13:24] said,
[00:13:26] if I can do
[00:13:29] this,
[00:13:30] what's stopping
[00:13:30] you from coming
[00:13:31] out and playing
[00:13:31] for the club?
[00:13:32] He said pretty
[00:13:32] much that when
[00:13:33] it's crying,
[00:13:34] when the rain
[00:13:34] is falling and
[00:13:35] feel like my
[00:13:36] tears are being
[00:13:37] hidden,
[00:13:37] I can still
[00:13:37] play better
[00:13:38] football because
[00:13:38] I'm playing for
[00:13:39] United,
[00:13:39] right?
[00:13:40] Basically saying
[00:13:41] all of us
[00:13:41] other players
[00:13:42] suck.
[00:13:44] Okay,
[00:13:45] grew up to
[00:13:45] like Garnachuk,
[00:13:46] Kobe Mahind was
[00:13:46] a little harsh,
[00:13:47] right?
[00:13:47] But everybody
[00:13:47] else,
[00:13:48] Ericsson said
[00:13:49] after FC 20,
[00:13:50] that bro,
[00:13:51] the team who
[00:13:51] came from
[00:13:52] somewhere else
[00:13:52] wants to come
[00:13:53] and win more
[00:13:53] than we do.
[00:13:54] So there
[00:13:54] is also
[00:13:55] discord that
[00:13:55] players are not
[00:13:56] doing the
[00:13:57] bit but I
[00:13:58] agree with
[00:13:59] Moketro,
[00:13:59] finishing
[00:13:59] after a
[00:14:00] point,
[00:14:01] what is he
[00:14:01] going to
[00:14:01] do?
[00:14:02] We hit the
[00:14:02] post yesterday,
[00:14:03] we could have
[00:14:03] had that
[00:14:04] 1-0 with
[00:14:05] Bruno,
[00:14:07] Rashford again,
[00:14:08] Anthony,
[00:14:09] they're just
[00:14:09] blindly cutting in
[00:14:10] and shooting
[00:14:10] any or haphazard,
[00:14:11] right?
[00:14:12] When number
[00:14:12] nine,
[00:14:13] Hoyland is
[00:14:13] finally back,
[00:14:14] everyone like
[00:14:14] Zerg,
[00:14:15] he's link up,
[00:14:15] Zerg,
[00:14:16] he's link up,
[00:14:16] Zerg,
[00:14:16] Hoyland has come
[00:14:17] back,
[00:14:18] give him the
[00:14:18] ball,
[00:14:19] get five
[00:14:19] touches.
[00:14:20] And Hoyland's
[00:14:21] then coming to
[00:14:22] Bruno,
[00:14:22] give me the
[00:14:23] ball,
[00:14:23] Bruno Fernandes,
[00:14:24] goes right wing,
[00:14:26] he's away from
[00:14:27] Hoyland,
[00:14:29] what am I doing
[00:14:30] here?
[00:14:31] It's crazy.
[00:14:32] I mean,
[00:14:33] the players
[00:14:37] are definitely
[00:14:38] culpable,
[00:14:38] like you know,
[00:14:39] Ten Hag can't
[00:14:39] come and kick
[00:14:40] the ball into
[00:14:41] the goal for
[00:14:41] them.
[00:14:43] Tactics only
[00:14:44] play a role to
[00:14:45] a certain extent,
[00:14:46] I mean of course
[00:14:46] they shape the
[00:14:47] game but if you
[00:14:48] don't win your
[00:14:49] duels, if you
[00:14:50] don't beat your
[00:14:51] man, if you
[00:14:51] don't track back,
[00:14:52] like those one-on-one
[00:14:53] battles make the
[00:14:54] game.
[00:14:55] If you don't win
[00:14:56] the second balls
[00:14:57] then eventually
[00:14:58] you're going to
[00:14:58] lose the midfield
[00:14:59] battles and
[00:14:59] eventually the
[00:15:00] run past you
[00:15:01] and you know,
[00:15:01] get some shots
[00:15:02] on your goal
[00:15:03] and that's
[00:15:04] what's been
[00:15:04] happening.
[00:15:05] More often than
[00:15:06] not all of our
[00:15:07] players they
[00:15:08] can't beat their
[00:15:09] immediate man.
[00:15:10] Rashford can
[00:15:11] beat one man
[00:15:11] then he's just
[00:15:12] headed nowhere
[00:15:13] like into the
[00:15:13] sand and
[00:15:15] Anthony
[00:15:16] was still doing
[00:15:18] good.
[00:15:19] At least
[00:15:20] Ganacho has
[00:15:20] some third
[00:15:22] like final third
[00:15:23] production,
[00:15:23] some productivity
[00:15:24] but rest of
[00:15:25] them they're just
[00:15:26] so bad like
[00:15:27] I don't know
[00:15:27] what is it even?
[00:15:29] Imagine guys
[00:15:30] seven games in
[00:15:31] seven Premier League
[00:15:32] matches in the
[00:15:33] rest let's say
[00:15:33] ten matches into
[00:15:34] the season right
[00:15:35] Europe and
[00:15:35] whatever link up.
[00:15:38] We are all the
[00:15:39] fans are like
[00:15:39] Zach,
[00:15:40] Eric,
[00:15:40] Ten Hag.
[00:15:41] Imagine seven
[00:15:42] eight games in
[00:15:42] the players have
[00:15:43] given up like
[00:15:44] it's not what
[00:15:45] demotivation you
[00:15:45] have in life that
[00:15:46] you're giving up
[00:15:47] seven eight games
[00:15:47] in.
[00:15:54] Ten Hag can't
[00:15:58] physically come
[00:15:58] onto the pitch
[00:15:59] himself and
[00:15:59] kick the ball.
[00:16:00] He can't
[00:16:00] personally put the
[00:16:01] ball in the
[00:16:02] back of the
[00:16:02] net but with
[00:16:04] the way things
[00:16:05] are going,
[00:16:07] does the buck
[00:16:08] stop with him
[00:16:09] as the manager
[00:16:09] because it
[00:16:10] ideally should
[00:16:11] and as the
[00:16:12] manager of an
[00:16:13] elite level
[00:16:13] football team,
[00:16:14] he should be
[00:16:16] able to
[00:16:16] motivate his
[00:16:17] players when
[00:16:18] they are not
[00:16:18] as motivated
[00:16:19] and oftentimes
[00:16:21] we think that
[00:16:22] stacking the
[00:16:23] manager and
[00:16:23] getting somebody
[00:16:24] else in his
[00:16:24] place is the
[00:16:26] right thing to
[00:16:26] do or is the
[00:16:27] right way to
[00:16:27] go about it.
[00:16:28] Personally,
[00:16:29] I don't think
[00:16:29] so and I
[00:16:31] feel like that
[00:16:31] because it
[00:16:32] will be the
[00:16:32] same cycle
[00:16:33] all over again.
[00:16:36] It is absolutely
[00:16:37] and even more
[00:16:39] so now because
[00:16:39] Rude Van
[00:16:40] may be given
[00:16:41] interim charge,
[00:16:42] it is Ole
[00:16:43] all over again.
[00:16:44] Again, this
[00:16:44] man has
[00:16:45] managed in
[00:16:46] the NWC but
[00:16:47] he is not
[00:16:48] managed at a
[00:16:49] level that
[00:16:50] justifies his
[00:16:51] jump up from
[00:16:52] that league to
[00:16:54] the managerial
[00:16:54] position at
[00:16:55] Man United.
[00:16:56] Of course,
[00:16:56] because he is
[00:16:57] a club legend
[00:16:57] there is going
[00:16:58] to be a lot
[00:16:58] of good PR
[00:16:58] about it.
[00:16:59] He is going
[00:17:00] to have a
[00:17:00] certain way
[00:17:01] of doing things.
[00:17:01] Everybody will
[00:17:02] say that
[00:17:02] cliche line,
[00:17:03] oh but he
[00:17:04] knows the
[00:17:04] club and he
[00:17:05] is going to
[00:17:06] get a few
[00:17:06] good results
[00:17:07] because that is
[00:17:07] what happens
[00:17:08] for any club
[00:17:08] with a new
[00:17:09] manager bounce.
[00:17:09] Sean Dyche
[00:17:10] managed that
[00:17:10] with a
[00:17:10] fucking
[00:17:11] Everton
[00:17:11] side.
[00:17:12] So why
[00:17:12] won't
[00:17:13] Manish
[00:17:13] Lutroy
[00:17:14] duet with
[00:17:14] United?
[00:17:15] But eventually
[00:17:16] that golden
[00:17:17] period will
[00:17:18] die out.
[00:17:19] Us fans as
[00:17:20] toxic as
[00:17:21] we are will
[00:17:22] start calling
[00:17:23] him Gali's
[00:17:23] and ask for
[00:17:25] his head and
[00:17:26] we will say
[00:17:27] unnecessary
[00:17:27] shit like get
[00:17:29] Mourinho back,
[00:17:29] get Ole back,
[00:17:30] get Alex
[00:17:31] Ferguson back.
[00:17:32] By then,
[00:17:33] you know,
[00:17:34] I hope that
[00:17:36] doesn't happen
[00:17:36] but if the old
[00:17:37] man is dead or
[00:17:38] something,
[00:17:38] there will be
[00:17:39] fans will be
[00:17:40] like,
[00:17:40] no,
[00:17:40] from death
[00:17:42] bring him
[00:17:42] back to
[00:17:43] life and
[00:17:43] put him in
[00:17:44] the dugout.
[00:17:45] But I feel
[00:17:46] like if at
[00:17:47] this point,
[00:17:48] and going to
[00:17:49] what you said
[00:17:50] Mokesh,
[00:17:50] about the
[00:17:51] clarity that
[00:17:51] is needed,
[00:17:52] if at this
[00:17:52] point,
[00:17:53] Ninos come
[00:17:53] out and
[00:17:53] say,
[00:17:54] no,
[00:17:55] we still
[00:17:55] believe
[00:17:56] Ten Hag is
[00:17:57] the right man
[00:17:57] for the job.
[00:17:58] No matter
[00:17:59] what happens
[00:18:00] this season,
[00:18:01] he is staying
[00:18:02] in his job.
[00:18:04] We trust him
[00:18:05] to turn this
[00:18:05] around.
[00:18:06] We trust him
[00:18:07] to take this
[00:18:08] club forward
[00:18:08] and align with
[00:18:09] the vision
[00:18:10] that we have
[00:18:10] as owners.
[00:18:12] And regardless
[00:18:13] of results,
[00:18:13] we are going
[00:18:14] to stick with
[00:18:15] him.
[00:18:15] If they give
[00:18:16] him that show
[00:18:16] of support,
[00:18:17] which Ferguson
[00:18:18] had by the
[00:18:18] way,
[00:18:19] and he had
[00:18:19] that of course
[00:18:20] because he
[00:18:20] had massive
[00:18:21] credit in the
[00:18:21] bag,
[00:18:22] he didn't
[00:18:22] need a board
[00:18:23] to come out
[00:18:24] and defend him
[00:18:25] on the off chance
[00:18:26] that things went
[00:18:27] badly and things
[00:18:27] did go badly
[00:18:28] under Ferguson
[00:18:29] as well.
[00:18:29] Like we had
[00:18:29] some horrible
[00:18:30] results under
[00:18:31] him as well.
[00:18:32] But I feel
[00:18:33] like because
[00:18:34] we are in a
[00:18:34] position that
[00:18:35] we are in
[00:18:36] right now,
[00:18:36] if the board
[00:18:36] does that,
[00:18:37] if they publicly
[00:18:38] show support
[00:18:38] to Ten Hag,
[00:18:40] I feel the
[00:18:41] players who
[00:18:42] are so
[00:18:43] called trying
[00:18:44] to get him
[00:18:45] sacked or
[00:18:45] not willing to
[00:18:47] play for him
[00:18:47] or whatever
[00:18:48] it is,
[00:18:49] will fall in
[00:18:50] line.
[00:18:50] Because we've
[00:18:52] spoken about
[00:18:52] this player
[00:18:53] power at
[00:18:53] Man United.
[00:18:54] Players think
[00:18:54] that they are
[00:18:55] going to outlive
[00:18:55] the manager
[00:18:56] because managers
[00:18:57] will get sacked
[00:18:57] but players
[00:18:58] will have longer
[00:18:58] contractions
[00:18:59] in their
[00:18:59] state.
[00:19:01] That's one
[00:19:01] way to kill
[00:19:02] it.
[00:19:02] What do
[00:19:02] you guys
[00:19:02] think?
[00:19:03] I 100%
[00:19:04] agree with
[00:19:05] this.
[00:19:05] Like, you
[00:19:07] know, if you
[00:19:08] talk about
[00:19:09] Sir Alex
[00:19:09] Ferguson's
[00:19:10] reign, he
[00:19:11] was very
[00:19:11] close to
[00:19:12] the sack.
[00:19:13] United weren't
[00:19:13] performing very
[00:19:14] well in the
[00:19:14] start and you
[00:19:16] know what
[00:19:16] saved him was
[00:19:17] us winning
[00:19:17] the FA Cup
[00:19:18] in 1990 or
[00:19:19] 1991.
[00:19:20] That saved
[00:19:21] his tenure at
[00:19:22] United.
[00:19:23] So, I mean,
[00:19:24] if you just
[00:19:24] put things into
[00:19:25] the same
[00:19:26] context,
[00:19:27] Ten Hag has
[00:19:27] won the
[00:19:27] EFL and
[00:19:28] the FA Cup.
[00:19:29] So, I mean,
[00:19:30] I think it
[00:19:30] just makes a
[00:19:31] little bit
[00:19:31] sense to
[00:19:32] just let
[00:19:32] the man
[00:19:32] have this
[00:19:33] season and
[00:19:33] more than
[00:19:34] anything,
[00:19:34] the message
[00:19:35] that the
[00:19:36] players get
[00:19:37] is more
[00:19:38] important that
[00:19:38] you know,
[00:19:39] they have to
[00:19:40] stick it out
[00:19:40] with him.
[00:19:41] If they don't
[00:19:41] turn up,
[00:19:42] then some
[00:19:42] other player
[00:19:43] will be
[00:19:44] replaced because
[00:19:44] the manager is
[00:19:45] not going
[00:19:45] anywhere.
[00:19:46] Also, guys,
[00:19:47] that is more
[00:19:47] important because
[00:19:48] this cycle is
[00:19:48] just going to
[00:19:49] keep repeating.
[00:19:50] Yeah.
[00:19:50] No, also,
[00:19:51] you guys see
[00:19:52] this, right?
[00:19:52] You guys have
[00:19:53] reached Rude
[00:19:54] Van Nistelrooy.
[00:19:55] That means
[00:19:56] there are only
[00:19:57] a few more
[00:19:57] ex-players left
[00:19:58] before you reach
[00:19:59] Marcus Rashford or
[00:20:00] something.
[00:20:01] You know,
[00:20:02] the ex-player
[00:20:03] who says,
[00:20:05] I know the
[00:20:05] club.
[00:20:06] You guys know
[00:20:07] the horizon is
[00:20:08] ending, right?
[00:20:08] We're 10 years
[00:20:09] away.
[00:20:09] We're close to
[00:20:11] Aguero moment
[00:20:12] and also.
[00:20:13] There's going
[00:20:13] to be Rooney
[00:20:14] after this.
[00:20:14] I think a better
[00:20:15] pick would be
[00:20:15] Ashley Young,
[00:20:17] man.
[00:20:17] Ashley Young
[00:20:17] in the United
[00:20:18] tournament.
[00:20:19] There you go.
[00:20:21] So, this is
[00:20:21] the order,
[00:20:22] right?
[00:20:22] Rude Van Nistelrooy,
[00:20:23] Rooney,
[00:20:24] Ashley Young,
[00:20:25] and then we hit
[00:20:26] Anthony Martial.
[00:20:27] And then we're
[00:20:28] good.
[00:20:28] United done.
[00:20:29] You're playing
[00:20:30] Everton at home.
[00:20:30] That's right.
[00:20:30] The rope is
[00:20:31] ending.
[00:20:32] You're playing
[00:20:32] Everton at home.
[00:20:33] Imagine Ashley Young
[00:20:33] walks off the pitch,
[00:20:34] just pushes
[00:20:35] it.
[00:20:35] Just takes the
[00:20:39] sound effect
[00:20:40] in the background
[00:20:41] coming.
[00:20:42] Dude, I would
[00:20:44] fucking love it.
[00:20:45] All right.
[00:20:45] I would absolutely
[00:20:46] love it if that
[00:20:48] was the case.
[00:20:49] You know,
[00:20:49] get the fucking
[00:20:52] Rashford player
[00:20:53] manager or
[00:20:54] something like
[00:20:54] that.
[00:20:56] Phil Jones,
[00:20:57] even.
[00:20:57] It's his
[00:20:57] testimonial also.
[00:20:58] Phil Jones.
[00:21:01] Yeah, exactly.
[00:21:02] Exactly.
[00:21:03] Give that man
[00:21:04] a contract.
[00:21:04] And I just
[00:21:06] want to say
[00:21:06] to every
[00:21:07] Man United
[00:21:07] fan right now,
[00:21:08] all of these
[00:21:09] options are
[00:21:10] better than
[00:21:10] fucking Thomas
[00:21:11] Tuchel.
[00:21:12] All right?
[00:21:12] None of you
[00:21:13] know what
[00:21:14] the fuck
[00:21:15] you're talking
[00:21:15] about when
[00:21:16] you say,
[00:21:16] oh, Thomas
[00:21:17] Tuchel should
[00:21:17] be given the
[00:21:18] Man United
[00:21:19] job.
[00:21:19] You mean
[00:21:20] how short-sighted
[00:21:22] behavior.
[00:21:23] And fair enough,
[00:21:25] considering the
[00:21:25] way we have
[00:21:26] played, I think
[00:21:27] a little,
[00:21:27] little shot
[00:21:28] of dopamine
[00:21:28] is absolutely
[00:21:30] needed.
[00:21:30] But in the
[00:21:32] words of Arsenal
[00:21:33] fans regarding
[00:21:34] Mikel Arteta,
[00:21:35] trust the
[00:21:35] process.
[00:21:36] You know,
[00:21:36] it's like those
[00:21:37] night outs where
[00:21:38] your boy has
[00:21:38] not seen some
[00:21:39] action for a
[00:21:40] long time.
[00:21:42] He's like,
[00:21:42] no, you don't
[00:21:43] understand.
[00:21:44] And he's like,
[00:21:44] we understand.
[00:21:45] You don't want
[00:21:45] this.
[00:21:46] He will
[00:21:46] record this
[00:21:46] tomorrow.
[00:21:49] That is actually
[00:21:50] another reason
[00:21:50] why I am in
[00:21:52] favor of Ten
[00:21:53] Hark to just
[00:21:53] stay at the
[00:21:54] club because I
[00:21:55] don't see any
[00:21:56] proper replacement.
[00:21:57] There's been
[00:21:57] talks about
[00:21:58] Drew Van
[00:21:58] Estudor.
[00:21:59] There's been
[00:21:59] talks about
[00:21:59] even Michael
[00:22:00] Carrick taking
[00:22:01] over as a
[00:22:01] caretaker or
[00:22:02] whatever.
[00:22:02] And I don't
[00:22:04] see any promise
[00:22:05] in it.
[00:22:05] I don't see any
[00:22:06] proper long-term
[00:22:07] vision.
[00:22:07] It's just a
[00:22:07] stopgap until
[00:22:08] they figure out
[00:22:09] what their next
[00:22:10] long-term vision
[00:22:11] looks like.
[00:22:11] Exactly.
[00:22:12] And by the
[00:22:13] time they figure
[00:22:14] out what their
[00:22:14] next long-term
[00:22:15] vision is,
[00:22:15] football will
[00:22:16] change because
[00:22:17] football as a
[00:22:18] game, as a
[00:22:19] sport also changes
[00:22:20] so fast.
[00:22:20] Managerial
[00:22:21] philosophies,
[00:22:22] principles,
[00:22:22] all of that
[00:22:23] tactics change
[00:22:24] so fast that
[00:22:25] it is very
[00:22:26] hard to see
[00:22:28] what the
[00:22:28] next philosophy
[00:22:30] is going
[00:22:30] to be like
[00:22:31] or the
[00:22:32] person who's
[00:22:32] going to be
[00:22:32] in charge
[00:22:33] of that
[00:22:33] philosophy
[00:22:33] is going
[00:22:34] to be like.
[00:22:35] Guys,
[00:22:35] I think
[00:22:36] sorry,
[00:22:39] even last
[00:22:40] year or
[00:22:41] last year
[00:22:41] whenever we
[00:22:42] got Casemiro,
[00:22:43] we in
[00:22:44] September,
[00:22:44] in August,
[00:22:45] we got
[00:22:45] beat 4-0
[00:22:47] by Brentford
[00:22:48] and even
[00:22:49] September was
[00:22:50] not very
[00:22:50] good.
[00:22:51] But then
[00:22:51] by the time
[00:22:52] March,
[00:22:52] April came
[00:22:53] we were
[00:22:54] looking a
[00:22:54] little bit
[00:22:54] better.
[00:22:55] February
[00:22:55] was a
[00:22:55] really good
[00:22:56] month
[00:22:56] for us.
[00:22:56] I still
[00:22:58] think that
[00:22:58] Ten Hag
[00:22:59] can turn
[00:22:59] things around
[00:23:00] this season.
[00:23:01] It's not
[00:23:01] the end of
[00:23:02] the world
[00:23:02] where we
[00:23:02] are right
[00:23:03] now.
[00:23:04] And the
[00:23:04] players are
[00:23:05] underperforming.
[00:23:06] But I
[00:23:07] think Ten Hag
[00:23:08] should just
[00:23:09] stay.
[00:23:09] And just
[00:23:09] another thing
[00:23:10] about Ten Hag
[00:23:10] is that if
[00:23:11] you take
[00:23:12] away this
[00:23:12] United
[00:23:13] stint,
[00:23:14] just take
[00:23:15] it back
[00:23:15] to 2022,
[00:23:17] 2023,
[00:23:17] whenever he
[00:23:17] came in,
[00:23:18] other clubs
[00:23:19] were looking
[00:23:20] at Ten Hag
[00:23:20] as their
[00:23:21] potential
[00:23:22] successor.
[00:23:23] Even Liverpool
[00:23:24] were looking
[00:23:24] at Ten Hag
[00:23:25] for being
[00:23:26] a Klopp
[00:23:27] successor
[00:23:27] and even
[00:23:28] there were
[00:23:29] talks about
[00:23:29] Ten Hag
[00:23:30] style replicating
[00:23:31] Guardiola's
[00:23:32] a little bit.
[00:23:33] That if
[00:23:33] Guardiola does
[00:23:34] decide to
[00:23:34] leave,
[00:23:35] they might
[00:23:35] be looking
[00:23:35] at Ten Hag.
[00:23:36] So at
[00:23:37] least in
[00:23:37] his Ajax
[00:23:38] he was
[00:23:38] looked upon
[00:23:39] as a
[00:23:40] major
[00:23:40] tactician
[00:23:41] who knows
[00:23:41] the ins
[00:23:41] and outs
[00:23:42] of the
[00:23:42] game.
[00:23:43] So I
[00:23:44] don't think
[00:23:44] he's just
[00:23:44] lost all
[00:23:45] of that.
[00:23:46] I mean
[00:23:46] Liverpool
[00:23:46] ended up
[00:23:47] getting another
[00:23:47] ball
[00:23:48] Dutchman
[00:23:51] who's
[00:23:51] performing
[00:23:52] much better
[00:23:52] than the
[00:23:53] original.
[00:23:53] But Mookie,
[00:23:54] there's three
[00:23:55] United fans
[00:23:56] here who
[00:23:56] are very
[00:23:57] very
[00:23:59] aggressively
[00:23:59] for Ten Hag
[00:24:00] to stay
[00:24:01] in.
[00:24:01] As somebody
[00:24:02] who's looking
[00:24:03] at this
[00:24:03] issue from
[00:24:04] the outside
[00:24:05] in,
[00:24:05] especially
[00:24:06] from a
[00:24:06] Liverpool
[00:24:07] point of
[00:24:07] view,
[00:24:07] which is
[00:24:07] a very
[00:24:08] very
[00:24:10] you're
[00:24:10] experiencing
[00:24:11] the highest
[00:24:11] levels of
[00:24:12] Schadenfreude
[00:24:12] right now.
[00:24:13] I'm very
[00:24:14] sure.
[00:24:15] With a big
[00:24:15] fucking
[00:24:16] smile on
[00:24:16] your face.
[00:24:19] Does it
[00:24:19] seem like
[00:24:20] the three of
[00:24:21] us are
[00:24:21] delusional
[00:24:21] right now
[00:24:22] or are
[00:24:22] we making
[00:24:22] sense?
[00:24:23] Because I
[00:24:23] feel like
[00:24:23] we are
[00:24:24] caught in
[00:24:25] our own
[00:24:25] echo
[00:24:25] chambers
[00:24:26] and we
[00:24:28] don't know
[00:24:28] what is
[00:24:29] reality
[00:24:29] anymore as
[00:24:30] United fans.
[00:24:31] Ten Hagin,
[00:24:32] baby!
[00:24:33] No, but
[00:24:34] I do think
[00:24:35] realistically
[00:24:36] what,
[00:24:37] I think
[00:24:37] you have to
[00:24:38] be Ten Hagin
[00:24:39] because there's
[00:24:40] nobody else.
[00:24:42] Yeah.
[00:24:43] And right
[00:24:43] now,
[00:24:44] United is
[00:24:44] not,
[00:24:45] like when
[00:24:46] Ten Hagin
[00:24:46] took it,
[00:24:47] there's a
[00:24:48] prospect of
[00:24:48] oh,
[00:24:48] let's take
[00:24:49] a sinking
[00:24:50] great club
[00:24:51] and make
[00:24:51] it,
[00:24:51] put it,
[00:24:52] restore it
[00:24:53] back to
[00:24:53] its perch.
[00:24:54] Right?
[00:24:54] And the
[00:24:55] thing is,
[00:24:55] if you
[00:24:55] sack Ten Hag
[00:24:56] E2 right
[00:24:57] now,
[00:24:57] there's not
[00:24:58] even that
[00:24:58] honor.
[00:24:58] Then it's
[00:24:59] a proper
[00:24:59] sink,
[00:24:59] it's a
[00:25:00] sunk
[00:25:00] club.
[00:25:01] It'll be
[00:25:02] about,
[00:25:02] what,
[00:25:03] 12 years
[00:25:03] then?
[00:25:04] I think
[00:25:04] 12,
[00:25:04] 13
[00:25:04] years.
[00:25:05] Yeah.
[00:25:06] Right?
[00:25:07] So,
[00:25:07] so think
[00:25:08] about this
[00:25:09] is,
[00:25:10] think this
[00:25:10] is Liverpool
[00:25:11] 2002,
[00:25:12] 2003.
[00:25:13] Right?
[00:25:13] This is
[00:25:14] where you
[00:25:14] guys roughly
[00:25:14] are.
[00:25:15] Where you
[00:25:16] adjust,
[00:25:16] Gerard Hulia,
[00:25:17] Rafa Barretes,
[00:25:18] that,
[00:25:18] that's,
[00:25:18] you'll be
[00:25:19] roughly in
[00:25:19] that era.
[00:25:20] Right?
[00:25:21] Which means
[00:25:21] you had to,
[00:25:23] like,
[00:25:23] that means by
[00:25:24] then you are
[00:25:25] going to have
[00:25:25] to start
[00:25:25] looking for
[00:25:26] guys who
[00:25:27] are way,
[00:25:27] not top
[00:25:28] class managers,
[00:25:29] guys who
[00:25:30] are low in
[00:25:31] the pecking
[00:25:31] order,
[00:25:32] who are
[00:25:32] overperforming
[00:25:32] and get them
[00:25:33] to manage
[00:25:35] United.
[00:25:36] Right now,
[00:25:37] I think Ten Hag
[00:25:38] is the last
[00:25:38] top tier talent
[00:25:40] that comes to
[00:25:40] United.
[00:25:41] Yeah.
[00:25:42] Does that make
[00:25:42] sense?
[00:25:42] Are we
[00:25:43] considering Ten Hag
[00:25:44] a top tier talent?
[00:25:45] As in the way
[00:25:46] like Ronak was
[00:25:47] saying that he
[00:25:48] was considered
[00:25:48] to be the
[00:25:49] next big manager.
[00:25:50] Right.
[00:25:51] After Ten Hag,
[00:25:52] I don't think
[00:25:52] there's even
[00:25:53] one next big
[00:25:54] manager who's
[00:25:54] thinking let's
[00:25:55] go to United.
[00:25:56] They're probably
[00:25:56] thinking let's
[00:25:56] go to City.
[00:25:57] They're thinking
[00:25:57] let's go to
[00:25:58] Newcastle even
[00:25:59] in case the
[00:26:00] money checks out
[00:26:00] etc.
[00:26:02] Ten Hag,
[00:26:03] I feel like,
[00:26:03] is your last
[00:26:04] manager who
[00:26:04] thought United
[00:26:05] was a respectable
[00:26:06] job.
[00:26:06] Yeah.
[00:26:07] So you feel
[00:26:08] better,
[00:26:09] we better work
[00:26:09] out with this
[00:26:10] guy because
[00:26:11] after this
[00:26:11] guy,
[00:26:12] you're gonna
[00:26:12] have to be
[00:26:12] like,
[00:26:13] hey,
[00:26:13] what's
[00:26:13] happening in
[00:26:14] Bodo Glint?
[00:26:17] You're gonna
[00:26:18] have to look
[00:26:18] for fucking
[00:26:18] like how
[00:26:19] Liverpool had
[00:26:20] to go
[00:26:20] fucking look
[00:26:21] for the guy
[00:26:21] who was doing
[00:26:22] shit with
[00:26:22] Valencia and
[00:26:23] then,
[00:26:23] you know,
[00:26:24] find Jose
[00:26:25] when he was
[00:26:26] with Porto.
[00:26:26] Like,
[00:26:26] you know,
[00:26:27] you have to
[00:26:27] really look
[00:26:27] in the bottom,
[00:26:28] like not bottom
[00:26:29] of the barrel,
[00:26:30] but the barrels
[00:26:31] at the bottom
[00:26:31] to be like,
[00:26:32] who's that?
[00:26:32] So that guy
[00:26:33] still thinks
[00:26:33] it's a great
[00:26:34] job.
[00:26:34] Yeah.
[00:26:35] Dan Hugg is
[00:26:35] the last
[00:26:36] top tier
[00:26:37] talent you
[00:26:38] get.
[00:26:38] So I feel
[00:26:39] like before
[00:26:39] you fire
[00:26:40] him,
[00:26:41] it is true,
[00:26:41] you should be
[00:26:42] really sure
[00:26:43] because after
[00:26:44] this it's
[00:26:44] done,
[00:26:44] dude,
[00:26:44] United are
[00:26:46] now not a
[00:26:47] premier destination
[00:26:48] anymore.
[00:26:48] it's done.
[00:26:49] There's an
[00:26:49] entire generation
[00:26:50] of fans that
[00:26:51] have now like
[00:26:51] that are
[00:26:52] city fans,
[00:26:53] right?
[00:26:53] They are just
[00:26:54] city fans and
[00:26:55] the Liverpool
[00:26:55] fans and some
[00:26:56] have gone to
[00:26:56] Chelsea,
[00:26:57] but that
[00:26:58] entire wave
[00:26:58] that would
[00:26:59] have been
[00:26:59] United fans
[00:26:59] is now gone,
[00:27:01] right?
[00:27:01] So like the
[00:27:02] United fans
[00:27:03] are like,
[00:27:03] I don't know
[00:27:04] if there are
[00:27:05] any young
[00:27:05] United fans
[00:27:06] anymore.
[00:27:06] I'm saying
[00:27:07] below 25.
[00:27:07] It's true.
[00:27:08] I think the
[00:27:09] only young
[00:27:10] United fans
[00:27:11] are
[00:27:12] their fathers.
[00:27:16] Exactly.
[00:27:17] Animesh is a
[00:27:17] new father,
[00:27:18] so I'm sure
[00:27:18] that Animesh's
[00:27:19] son is going
[00:27:20] to be a
[00:27:20] United fan,
[00:27:21] not out of
[00:27:22] love,
[00:27:22] but out of
[00:27:23] choice.
[00:27:23] Let's say
[00:27:23] this,
[00:27:24] between the
[00:27:24] ages of
[00:27:24] 5 and
[00:27:25] 25,
[00:27:25] there are
[00:27:26] no fans
[00:27:27] of United.
[00:27:29] That means
[00:27:30] it's not an
[00:27:30] appealing job
[00:27:31] to anybody
[00:27:32] anymore.
[00:27:33] So I feel
[00:27:33] like United,
[00:27:34] I mean,
[00:27:35] Ten Hag in
[00:27:35] because like
[00:27:36] this is your
[00:27:37] last top-tier
[00:27:38] manager.
[00:27:38] After this,
[00:27:39] like I
[00:27:39] said,
[00:27:40] Bodog
[00:27:40] Blint,
[00:27:43] Transborn
[00:27:43] Spore,
[00:27:44] you know
[00:27:44] that's what
[00:27:44] I'm looking
[00:27:45] for.
[00:27:47] Oh God.
[00:27:49] Make United
[00:27:50] great again.
[00:27:51] Make United
[00:27:52] great again,
[00:27:53] dude.
[00:27:53] Like it is
[00:27:54] weird that
[00:27:54] nobody wants
[00:27:56] to put
[00:27:57] Phil Neville's
[00:27:57] hat in the
[00:27:58] ring for
[00:27:58] this job.
[00:27:59] Just checking.
[00:27:59] No?
[00:28:00] Cool.
[00:28:00] Okay.
[00:28:01] But speaking
[00:28:02] of the Neville's,
[00:28:04] it has been
[00:28:05] reported that
[00:28:05] Jim Ratcliffe
[00:28:06] and the other
[00:28:07] leadership group
[00:28:08] of Ineos are
[00:28:10] having discussions
[00:28:11] about the future
[00:28:12] of Ten Hag over
[00:28:14] this international
[00:28:15] break.
[00:28:15] They had one of
[00:28:16] their first meetings
[00:28:17] regarding this
[00:28:17] topic a few
[00:28:19] days ago and
[00:28:19] Gary Neville was
[00:28:20] spotted going into
[00:28:22] Old Trafford.
[00:28:22] So it is
[00:28:23] suggesting that he
[00:28:23] was a part of
[00:28:24] these meetings with
[00:28:26] the leadership team
[00:28:27] at Man United.
[00:28:29] does he really
[00:28:30] need to be
[00:28:31] included?
[00:28:32] I mean, I know
[00:28:32] he's a long
[00:28:33] time servant of
[00:28:33] the club.
[00:28:34] He's a club
[00:28:34] legend and
[00:28:35] honestly, I
[00:28:36] love the guy.
[00:28:37] He's been a
[00:28:37] fantastic servant
[00:28:38] for the club
[00:28:39] and he is a
[00:28:40] good pundit on
[00:28:41] Sky Sports as
[00:28:42] well.
[00:28:44] But it
[00:28:45] doesn't seem
[00:28:45] like you're
[00:28:46] giving Gary Neville
[00:28:46] a little too
[00:28:47] much importance.
[00:28:48] Yeah.
[00:28:49] He's not
[00:28:49] David Beckham.
[00:28:50] Why doesn't
[00:28:50] anyone go get
[00:28:51] him?
[00:28:52] David Beckham
[00:28:53] is too far
[00:28:54] removed.
[00:28:54] He's like,
[00:28:55] bro, I'm
[00:28:55] going to go.
[00:28:56] David Beckham
[00:28:57] is very, very
[00:28:58] mature in the
[00:28:58] sense that
[00:28:59] after graduating
[00:29:00] college, he
[00:29:01] never went back
[00:29:03] Whereas,
[00:29:07] Gary Neville is
[00:29:08] the guy who
[00:29:08] goes for every
[00:29:09] alum I meet.
[00:29:10] He goes and
[00:29:11] teaches in the
[00:29:12] college again.
[00:29:13] You know,
[00:29:14] he's in the
[00:29:16] Rotary committee.
[00:29:17] He's in touch
[00:29:18] with all the
[00:29:18] teachers.
[00:29:19] He's that guy.
[00:29:20] He's fucking
[00:29:20] Aamir Khan
[00:29:22] from
[00:29:22] Rami Bhai
[00:29:23] Basanti.
[00:29:23] He doesn't
[00:29:24] leave college.
[00:29:27] I have
[00:29:28] something
[00:29:29] controversial to
[00:29:29] say about
[00:29:30] ex-United players.
[00:29:31] Which is?
[00:29:32] I don't think
[00:29:33] any of them,
[00:29:34] there's not
[00:29:34] one, you
[00:29:35] know, in
[00:29:35] that coterie
[00:29:36] of like 12,
[00:29:36] 13 players
[00:29:37] who are very
[00:29:38] popular on
[00:29:38] doing podcasts
[00:29:39] and all that.
[00:29:39] I don't think
[00:29:40] any of them
[00:29:41] actually want
[00:29:41] United to be
[00:29:42] successful.
[00:29:43] I'm sorry,
[00:29:43] I have this
[00:29:44] theory that
[00:29:45] all of them
[00:29:45] actually want
[00:29:47] United to
[00:29:48] fail because
[00:29:48] that's the
[00:29:50] only way they're
[00:29:50] going to be
[00:29:51] relevant and
[00:29:51] they're going
[00:29:51] to be remembered.
[00:29:53] The longer
[00:29:53] United sucks,
[00:29:54] the longer
[00:29:55] they're going
[00:29:55] to be remembered.
[00:29:56] I don't think
[00:29:56] you can trust
[00:29:57] any of them,
[00:29:58] not one of
[00:29:59] them.
[00:29:59] And I'm
[00:29:59] saying this
[00:29:59] not just as
[00:30:00] a Liverpool
[00:30:01] fan, but I'm
[00:30:01] saying as
[00:30:02] someone, if I
[00:30:03] put myself in
[00:30:04] a United
[00:30:05] person's shoes,
[00:30:06] whether as a
[00:30:07] fan or a
[00:30:07] management committee,
[00:30:09] think about it.
[00:30:10] Do you think
[00:30:10] if United,
[00:30:11] hey, City got
[00:30:13] Haaland and
[00:30:13] they forgot
[00:30:14] Aguero?
[00:30:14] No.
[00:30:15] You think
[00:30:16] anybody will
[00:30:17] remember Neville?
[00:30:19] He will
[00:30:20] barely be a
[00:30:21] pundit, let
[00:30:22] alone a great
[00:30:23] United player
[00:30:24] who gets to
[00:30:24] be on the
[00:30:25] committee of
[00:30:25] decision-making.
[00:30:27] If there's even
[00:30:27] someone mildly
[00:30:29] better than him.
[00:30:29] If I were to
[00:30:32] put on my
[00:30:32] tinfoil hat at
[00:30:33] this point, I
[00:30:34] think that makes
[00:30:35] a lot of sense
[00:30:35] and that brings
[00:30:37] me back to the
[00:30:38] point and the
[00:30:39] problem that I
[00:30:39] have with Gary
[00:30:40] Neville being
[00:30:40] included in a
[00:30:41] discussion like
[00:30:41] this.
[00:30:43] He's an
[00:30:44] ex-player and
[00:30:45] everything, it's
[00:30:45] all great, but
[00:30:46] currently he is
[00:30:47] a pundit for
[00:30:49] Sky Sports.
[00:30:50] His job is
[00:30:51] to give his
[00:30:54] opinion on
[00:30:54] football games
[00:30:55] that are not
[00:30:56] just Man
[00:30:57] United games.
[00:30:57] He will
[00:30:58] obviously have a
[00:30:59] Man United
[00:30:59] colour to what
[00:31:00] he says about
[00:31:02] every game and
[00:31:03] especially when
[00:31:03] United are
[00:31:04] playing, he will
[00:31:04] have more to
[00:31:05] say.
[00:31:05] But that is
[00:31:06] his job.
[00:31:07] His job is not
[00:31:08] to care about
[00:31:09] how the team
[00:31:11] is doing.
[00:31:11] He has not
[00:31:12] invested money
[00:31:13] into Man
[00:31:13] United, best to
[00:31:14] our knowledge.
[00:31:15] He is not
[00:31:16] getting any
[00:31:16] sort of
[00:31:17] paycheck from
[00:31:18] Man United.
[00:31:19] He is not
[00:31:20] associated with
[00:31:20] the club in
[00:31:21] any official
[00:31:22] way.
[00:31:23] And like you
[00:31:24] said, Mukesh,
[00:31:24] neither is
[00:31:25] Rio Ferdinand
[00:31:26] nor is Dimitar
[00:31:27] Berbatov, nor
[00:31:28] is Patri
[00:31:29] Severa or
[00:31:29] any of these
[00:31:30] ex-United players
[00:31:30] like Peter
[00:31:31] Schmeichel, any
[00:31:32] of these ex-United
[00:31:33] players who have
[00:31:34] broadcasting jobs
[00:31:35] right now.
[00:31:37] So why should
[00:31:38] they be included
[00:31:39] in these decisions?
[00:31:41] What are they
[00:31:41] going to do?
[00:31:42] If you want
[00:31:43] the advice of
[00:31:45] anybody who
[00:31:46] has a connection
[00:31:46] with United's past,
[00:31:48] then it has to be
[00:31:48] Sir Alex Ferguson
[00:31:49] and also only
[00:31:51] because he is
[00:31:52] still on the
[00:31:52] board of directors
[00:31:53] of the club.
[00:31:55] He holds an
[00:31:55] official position
[00:31:56] that gives
[00:31:57] him certain
[00:31:58] amount of
[00:31:58] rights within
[00:31:59] the club.
[00:32:01] It's ridiculous
[00:32:02] that Gary Neville
[00:32:03] or anybody from
[00:32:04] that gang is
[00:32:06] even called
[00:32:06] into question.
[00:32:08] I'm like, at
[00:32:09] this point you
[00:32:10] can ask, if you
[00:32:10] take Gary Neville,
[00:32:11] you can take
[00:32:11] any guy.
[00:32:12] It makes no
[00:32:13] sense.
[00:32:14] I think that's a
[00:32:14] way you would
[00:32:15] think.
[00:32:15] And I wouldn't
[00:32:16] trust an ex-player
[00:32:17] of United within
[00:32:19] one 10-kilometer
[00:32:21] radius of the
[00:32:21] club.
[00:32:21] I'm like,
[00:32:23] get the fuck
[00:32:23] out of here.
[00:32:24] We will do
[00:32:24] whatever we
[00:32:25] can.
[00:32:25] But I think,
[00:32:27] how are they
[00:32:27] going to get
[00:32:28] the content?
[00:32:31] Ultimately,
[00:32:32] that's the
[00:32:32] question.
[00:32:33] Ultimately,
[00:32:35] that is the
[00:32:35] question.
[00:32:36] What is the
[00:32:37] They basically
[00:32:38] just want the
[00:32:39] fucking content.
[00:32:40] I mean,
[00:32:40] United is just
[00:32:41] a content
[00:32:42] pig right now.
[00:32:43] Anything we
[00:32:43] do, good or
[00:32:44] bad, there's
[00:32:45] like 10-15,000
[00:32:46] memes about that.
[00:32:47] Thousand
[00:32:47] clickbait
[00:32:48] headlines, bro.
[00:32:49] Just creating the
[00:32:50] run order for
[00:32:50] this.
[00:32:51] I saw so
[00:32:51] many fucking
[00:32:52] clickbaiting
[00:32:52] headlines.
[00:32:53] Yeah, and
[00:32:54] who will give
[00:32:54] a shit about
[00:32:55] Roy Keane's
[00:32:56] stupid anger
[00:32:57] anecdotes if
[00:32:58] there's a guy,
[00:32:59] if United is
[00:33:00] actually winning
[00:33:00] shit, right?
[00:33:02] He's like,
[00:33:03] on 13th
[00:33:04] March 2001,
[00:33:05] I punched a
[00:33:06] guy from
[00:33:06] Middlesbrough in
[00:33:07] the face.
[00:33:08] Don't tell me
[00:33:11] all this nonsense.
[00:33:12] Like, who
[00:33:13] gives a shit
[00:33:13] about it?
[00:33:14] I can't believe
[00:33:14] United fans are
[00:33:15] lapping up that.
[00:33:16] Oh, classic
[00:33:16] Roy.
[00:33:17] I'm like,
[00:33:17] that's classic
[00:33:18] alcoholic.
[00:33:19] That's classic.
[00:33:20] That's
[00:33:20] psychopathic
[00:33:21] behavior.
[00:33:23] Yeah.
[00:33:24] I'm sorry.
[00:33:24] You assume
[00:33:25] Roy Keane made
[00:33:26] up money from
[00:33:26] Ted Lasso,
[00:33:27] right?
[00:33:27] He should get
[00:33:28] some money
[00:33:28] from Ted Lasso.
[00:33:29] He should get
[00:33:30] some money.
[00:33:30] Roy Keane
[00:33:31] to get him
[00:33:32] to the
[00:33:32] but they
[00:33:34] kind of
[00:33:35] skirted the
[00:33:35] issue by
[00:33:36] making him a
[00:33:36] Chelsea player.
[00:33:37] So,
[00:33:38] maybe that is
[00:33:39] how they
[00:33:39] skirted the
[00:33:40] legal issue.
[00:33:40] Right.
[00:33:40] So,
[00:33:41] away from the
[00:33:41] manager,
[00:33:42] we'll just talk
[00:33:42] very quickly
[00:33:43] about on-pitch
[00:33:44] struggles and
[00:33:44] we start off
[00:33:45] with the
[00:33:45] captain,
[00:33:46] Bruno Fernandes.
[00:33:46] He's been
[00:33:47] having a very,
[00:33:47] very bad time
[00:33:48] of late.
[00:33:49] I remember
[00:33:50] early on in
[00:33:51] the season,
[00:33:51] he missed a few
[00:33:51] chances and
[00:33:52] he went on
[00:33:53] social media
[00:33:53] and he said,
[00:33:54] FPL players,
[00:33:56] I'm sorry
[00:33:56] but I will
[00:33:57] give you
[00:33:58] points.
[00:33:58] Don't worry.
[00:34:00] He's getting
[00:34:01] points because
[00:34:01] he's getting
[00:34:02] red card
[00:34:02] under red card.
[00:34:03] Two back-to-back
[00:34:04] red cards.
[00:34:04] Of course,
[00:34:05] the first one
[00:34:05] was overturned
[00:34:06] which is why
[00:34:06] he was available
[00:34:07] but honestly,
[00:34:08] his performance
[00:34:09] made all of us
[00:34:10] United fans think
[00:34:11] he should have
[00:34:12] been suspended
[00:34:12] for these games.
[00:34:14] I agree.
[00:34:15] I think,
[00:34:16] you know,
[00:34:17] him being suspended
[00:34:18] after everything
[00:34:19] that we saw
[00:34:20] with the Spurs
[00:34:20] match,
[00:34:21] him being suspended
[00:34:22] although terribly
[00:34:23] almost,
[00:34:24] see,
[00:34:25] going in one
[00:34:25] mile at
[00:34:26] half-time
[00:34:26] could have
[00:34:26] gone either
[00:34:27] way at home.
[00:34:27] It could have
[00:34:28] worked in my
[00:34:28] favor but that
[00:34:29] red card was
[00:34:30] the killer.
[00:34:31] But then again,
[00:34:32] we've gone through
[00:34:33] that match with
[00:34:33] that,
[00:34:34] right?
[00:34:34] We're like,
[00:34:34] okay,
[00:34:34] now he has no
[00:34:35] option.
[00:34:36] Now Mason
[00:34:37] Mount got injured.
[00:34:38] Kobe Mino
[00:34:38] technically was
[00:34:39] half-fit for
[00:34:39] this match.
[00:34:40] He could have
[00:34:41] done a Zerksi,
[00:34:41] false nine and
[00:34:42] Hoyland.
[00:34:43] We could have
[00:34:43] seen something
[00:34:44] because he had
[00:34:44] no option,
[00:34:45] right?
[00:34:46] Yeah.
[00:34:46] Now it's again
[00:34:46] going to be
[00:34:47] like,
[00:34:48] look,
[00:34:48] he made a point.
[00:34:49] He benched
[00:34:50] his players.
[00:34:50] He benched
[00:34:55] Delight and
[00:34:56] Martinez.
[00:34:57] Yeah.
[00:34:58] Why?
[00:34:59] So look,
[00:35:00] this is the
[00:35:01] argument,
[00:35:01] right?
[00:35:02] Pep never
[00:35:02] benches KDB.
[00:35:04] He hooks KDB
[00:35:04] off when he's
[00:35:05] not fully fit.
[00:35:07] Arteta never
[00:35:07] benches
[00:35:07] Odegaard no
[00:35:08] matter how bad
[00:35:09] he is because
[00:35:09] he's the captain,
[00:35:10] he's that player,
[00:35:11] right?
[00:35:12] Yeah.
[00:35:12] Is Bruno Fernandes
[00:35:14] our quarterback
[00:35:14] on paper?
[00:35:15] Yes.
[00:35:16] But is Bruno
[00:35:17] Fernandes
[00:35:18] unbenchable?
[00:35:19] Never.
[00:35:20] Even in his
[00:35:20] first season
[00:35:21] when under
[00:35:22] Teynak's first
[00:35:23] season,
[00:35:23] not Bruno's,
[00:35:24] the signs were
[00:35:25] there that he's
[00:35:26] struggling with
[00:35:26] Teynak.
[00:35:28] There was always
[00:35:28] a problem.
[00:35:30] So as a
[00:35:31] Tynak,
[00:35:32] why am I
[00:35:32] favoring this
[00:35:33] guy so much
[00:35:33] more?
[00:35:34] I think the
[00:35:34] only reason he's
[00:35:35] not benching
[00:35:35] Tynak is
[00:35:36] because he's
[00:35:37] himself been
[00:35:38] like,
[00:35:38] Ronaldo
[00:35:38] has
[00:35:39] been
[00:35:39] sent
[00:35:40] Sancho
[00:35:41] has
[00:35:41] been
[00:35:41] sent
[00:35:42] Rashford
[00:35:42] has
[00:35:42] been
[00:35:42] I can't
[00:35:43] take one
[00:35:44] more.
[00:35:44] I'm playing
[00:35:44] this guy,
[00:35:45] he's my
[00:35:45] captain.
[00:35:46] I think
[00:35:46] that's the
[00:35:46] only reason
[00:35:47] he's playing
[00:35:47] him.
[00:35:48] I don't
[00:35:48] think he
[00:35:48] wants to
[00:35:48] play him.
[00:35:49] Genuinely,
[00:35:49] I don't
[00:35:49] think
[00:35:49] Tynak wants
[00:35:50] to play him.
[00:35:50] He's just
[00:35:51] moping and
[00:35:51] sulking when
[00:35:52] he's having
[00:35:52] a bad
[00:35:52] time.
[00:35:53] I love
[00:35:53] Bruno.
[00:35:53] He's my
[00:35:54] favorite
[00:35:54] player in
[00:35:55] the last
[00:35:55] 10 years.
[00:35:56] But man,
[00:35:56] it takes
[00:35:57] everyone down
[00:35:57] with him.
[00:35:58] Man,
[00:35:58] I can't
[00:35:59] wait to hear
[00:35:59] you talk
[00:35:59] about the
[00:36:00] players you
[00:36:00] hate.
[00:36:05] You make
[00:36:06] a valid
[00:36:06] point there.
[00:36:07] He is the
[00:36:08] quarterback on
[00:36:09] paper.
[00:36:09] He is one
[00:36:10] of our most
[00:36:10] important players.
[00:36:11] He is the
[00:36:11] focal point or
[00:36:12] at least on
[00:36:13] paper or
[00:36:13] at least
[00:36:13] supposed to
[00:36:14] be the
[00:36:15] focal point
[00:36:15] of every
[00:36:16] attack that
[00:36:16] United makes.
[00:36:17] Don't you
[00:36:18] think,
[00:36:18] Ronak,
[00:36:19] that he has
[00:36:19] enough credit
[00:36:20] in the bank
[00:36:21] right from
[00:36:22] his first
[00:36:22] season under
[00:36:23] Ole where
[00:36:24] he literally
[00:36:25] was giving
[00:36:27] United fans
[00:36:27] and FPL
[00:36:28] addicts
[00:36:29] reasons to
[00:36:30] celebrate
[00:36:31] weekend on
[00:36:32] weekend?
[00:36:33] Don't
[00:36:33] think he
[00:36:34] has enough
[00:36:34] credit in
[00:36:35] the bank
[00:36:35] to be that
[00:36:36] unvengeable
[00:36:36] player.
[00:36:36] And I
[00:36:37] say that
[00:36:37] because
[00:36:37] oftentimes
[00:36:38] it has
[00:36:39] been said
[00:36:39] by Sir
[00:36:40] Alex also
[00:36:41] and by
[00:36:41] managerial
[00:36:42] greats
[00:36:42] also.
[00:36:43] If you
[00:36:44] have a
[00:36:45] player like
[00:36:46] that who
[00:36:46] is a
[00:36:47] mercurial
[00:36:47] player,
[00:36:48] you play
[00:36:49] him through
[00:36:49] his bad
[00:36:50] form.
[00:36:50] You play
[00:36:51] him through
[00:36:52] the lows
[00:36:52] in his
[00:36:53] career.
[00:36:55] Because the
[00:36:56] only way
[00:36:56] players like
[00:36:57] that get
[00:36:57] out of it
[00:36:58] is by
[00:36:58] going at
[00:36:59] it all
[00:37:00] over again.
[00:37:01] That happened
[00:37:01] with Rooney
[00:37:02] as well.
[00:37:02] Rooney also
[00:37:03] had terrible
[00:37:03] moments.
[00:37:04] But he
[00:37:04] used to
[00:37:04] bench him
[00:37:05] to get
[00:37:05] him angry
[00:37:06] on the
[00:37:06] bench.
[00:37:06] See Ferguson
[00:37:07] used to
[00:37:07] bench him
[00:37:07] eventually
[00:37:08] in desperation
[00:37:08] in those
[00:37:09] seasons.
[00:37:10] Bruno maybe
[00:37:10] just needs
[00:37:11] that anger
[00:37:11] to freaking
[00:37:12] anyway.
[00:37:12] I think
[00:37:14] Bruno,
[00:37:15] see Wayne
[00:37:16] Rooney was
[00:37:16] an angry
[00:37:17] fellow.
[00:37:17] His reaction
[00:37:18] was anger
[00:37:20] and then
[00:37:20] he would
[00:37:21] prove it in
[00:37:22] his performance.
[00:37:22] He would
[00:37:23] go harder
[00:37:23] in tackles
[00:37:24] but Bruno
[00:37:25] is a little
[00:37:25] different.
[00:37:26] Not every
[00:37:27] player is the
[00:37:27] same.
[00:37:28] He is more
[00:37:28] whiny.
[00:37:29] That
[00:37:30] he sulks
[00:37:31] but he
[00:37:32] definitely
[00:37:33] has enough
[00:37:33] points in
[00:37:34] the bank.
[00:37:34] He is a
[00:37:35] captain.
[00:37:35] He plays
[00:37:35] every single
[00:37:37] game.
[00:37:38] 90 minutes
[00:37:39] or 120
[00:37:40] minutes,
[00:37:40] whichever it
[00:37:40] is.
[00:37:41] He plays
[00:37:41] through it
[00:37:42] all.
[00:37:42] He runs
[00:37:43] his lungs
[00:37:43] out.
[00:37:44] And there is
[00:37:45] no player
[00:37:45] that runs
[00:37:46] as much
[00:37:46] as he
[00:37:46] does.
[00:37:48] Mukesh would
[00:37:48] say that
[00:37:49] he is our
[00:37:49] James Ward
[00:37:50] Prowse because
[00:37:51] back in the
[00:37:51] day,
[00:37:51] Mukesh had a
[00:37:52] particular
[00:37:53] liking for
[00:37:54] James Ward
[00:37:54] Prowse only
[00:37:55] because he was
[00:37:56] available for
[00:37:57] every game.
[00:37:57] And he was
[00:37:58] very happy when
[00:37:59] Ward Prowse went
[00:37:59] to West Ham.
[00:38:00] Where is he now
[00:38:01] fucking Nottingham
[00:38:01] Forest?
[00:38:02] Where he got
[00:38:02] sent off.
[00:38:03] Which by the
[00:38:04] way is your
[00:38:04] only team has
[00:38:05] beaten Liverpool.
[00:38:09] So in a way,
[00:38:10] he has proven
[00:38:14] you right.
[00:38:15] I would always
[00:38:16] vouch for James
[00:38:17] Ward Prowse.
[00:38:17] Yeah, you
[00:38:17] were saying
[00:38:18] it on it.
[00:38:20] Yeah, so
[00:38:20] Bruno, I
[00:38:22] think he is
[00:38:22] definitely a
[00:38:23] player who is
[00:38:24] unbenchable and
[00:38:25] who stays that
[00:38:26] way because as
[00:38:27] I said, he's
[00:38:28] mercurial.
[00:38:28] He's known to
[00:38:30] score goals,
[00:38:31] give assists and
[00:38:32] be that FPL
[00:38:33] asset really.
[00:38:35] And you
[00:38:35] know, just
[00:38:36] comparing, there's
[00:38:37] no comparison
[00:38:38] absolutely, but
[00:38:39] a player who
[00:38:40] generally likes
[00:38:40] to win, who
[00:38:41] likes to score,
[00:38:42] who likes to
[00:38:42] perform, who
[00:38:43] likes to be
[00:38:43] the main man.
[00:38:44] Someone like
[00:38:45] Ronaldo, if he
[00:38:46] had even two
[00:38:47] games that he
[00:38:48] didn't score, I
[00:38:48] know there's
[00:38:48] barely any two
[00:38:50] games that he
[00:38:50] didn't score
[00:38:51] together back
[00:38:52] to back, but
[00:38:52] by the third
[00:38:53] game, he was
[00:38:54] sulking on the
[00:38:55] pitch.
[00:38:55] He was angry
[00:38:56] at every missed
[00:38:57] shot.
[00:38:57] And when you
[00:38:58] put that into
[00:38:59] context with
[00:38:59] United where
[00:39:00] we've been
[00:39:00] struggling and
[00:39:02] he's the one
[00:39:02] who's the
[00:39:03] captain, he's
[00:39:04] the one who's
[00:39:04] been running
[00:39:05] his socks off
[00:39:06] and who's
[00:39:07] not, you know,
[00:39:07] he's hit the
[00:39:08] post so many
[00:39:09] times, who has
[00:39:09] been low in
[00:39:11] form.
[00:39:12] You have to
[00:39:12] think about his
[00:39:13] mentality also.
[00:39:14] He's trying so
[00:39:15] hard and at
[00:39:16] this point to
[00:39:16] bench him would
[00:39:17] be absolutely
[00:39:18] brutal.
[00:39:19] Yeah, exactly.
[00:39:20] I absolutely
[00:39:21] agree.
[00:39:21] Just a quick
[00:39:22] one before we
[00:39:23] wrap up the
[00:39:24] United chat and
[00:39:24] give Mukesh
[00:39:25] something to
[00:39:25] speak about.
[00:39:26] about, I feel
[00:39:27] like players who
[00:39:29] leave Man
[00:39:29] United are
[00:39:30] having a great
[00:39:31] time everywhere
[00:39:32] in the world
[00:39:33] because Angel
[00:39:35] Gomez is
[00:39:35] killing it for
[00:39:36] Lille.
[00:39:36] There are
[00:39:37] talks that he
[00:39:38] also made his
[00:39:38] England debut
[00:39:39] by the way.
[00:39:39] So, you know,
[00:39:40] great for him in
[00:39:41] that sense.
[00:39:41] He's not ruling
[00:39:42] out a return to
[00:39:43] Man United as
[00:39:44] well in the
[00:39:44] future.
[00:39:45] So, as soon as
[00:39:45] he left, his
[00:39:46] career is kicked
[00:39:47] off.
[00:39:56] Italy.
[00:39:56] So, you know,
[00:39:57] he's also
[00:39:58] playing to all
[00:39:58] the galleries in
[00:40:00] his social media
[00:40:00] posts but two
[00:40:02] penalty saves in
[00:40:02] one game which
[00:40:03] we never got to
[00:40:04] see as a Man
[00:40:05] United player but
[00:40:05] good for him,
[00:40:06] David Deir,
[00:40:07] good for you.
[00:40:08] Scott McTominay is
[00:40:09] loving life in
[00:40:10] Napoli.
[00:40:11] He's like scoring
[00:40:11] every other game
[00:40:13] and as United fans
[00:40:15] you think about
[00:40:15] hindsight, right?
[00:40:16] Like in a season
[00:40:17] where we are
[00:40:17] finding it so hard
[00:40:18] to score goals,
[00:40:19] here is one man
[00:40:21] who has done this
[00:40:22] exact thing for
[00:40:23] United.
[00:40:23] He's come up
[00:40:24] clutch so many
[00:40:24] times and now
[00:40:25] he's doing that
[00:40:26] for Napoli.
[00:40:26] I don't know
[00:40:27] why he was sold
[00:40:28] still.
[00:40:29] I don't know.
[00:40:29] Just quickly tell me.
[00:40:30] Yeah, I mean
[00:40:30] one of the worst
[00:40:31] decisions.
[00:40:32] Profit, profit,
[00:40:33] profit, profit
[00:40:33] and loss statement.
[00:40:34] It was purely a
[00:40:36] financial decision.
[00:40:37] I remember even
[00:40:37] as a rival player
[00:40:38] being like,
[00:40:39] hey man,
[00:40:39] this guy is so
[00:40:39] good.
[00:40:39] This guy seems
[00:40:40] like purely a
[00:40:41] financial decision.
[00:40:42] We had to
[00:40:43] balance the books
[00:40:43] and he is an
[00:40:44] academy prospect
[00:40:45] so his entire
[00:40:45] fee is complete
[00:40:46] and utter profit.
[00:40:48] One more
[00:40:49] United,
[00:40:49] ex-United
[00:40:50] player who's had
[00:40:51] his fortunes
[00:40:52] really,
[00:40:53] go well
[00:40:54] is Paul Pogba
[00:40:55] because his
[00:40:56] drugs man
[00:40:56] reduced from
[00:40:57] four years
[00:40:58] to 18 months.
[00:40:59] He can start
[00:41:00] playing football
[00:41:00] next year.
[00:41:02] You have to mention
[00:41:04] Greenwood on that
[00:41:04] list as well, man.
[00:41:05] No, no, no.
[00:41:06] We don't mention
[00:41:06] Greenwood on this
[00:41:07] podcast.
[00:41:08] Fuck that guy.
[00:41:08] Fuck the rapist.
[00:41:10] Fuck him.
[00:41:10] I'm very much
[00:41:11] against Greenwood.
[00:41:12] Fuck him.
[00:41:13] He can do
[00:41:13] whatever he wants
[00:41:14] anywhere else.
[00:41:15] I don't want
[00:41:16] anything to do
[00:41:16] with him.
[00:41:19] Yeah.
[00:41:20] He's a strong
[00:41:20] political stand.
[00:41:22] At this point,
[00:41:23] Greenwood will
[00:41:24] come back and
[00:41:24] be our coach.
[00:41:25] Yeah.
[00:41:26] Going back there.
[00:41:27] I mean,
[00:41:28] it does look like
[00:41:29] our players need
[00:41:30] some sense being
[00:41:31] beaten into them.
[00:41:32] Am I right?
[00:41:33] No?
[00:41:34] Too dark
[00:41:34] a fucking
[00:41:36] domestic abuse
[00:41:37] joke?
[00:41:38] Okay, cool.
[00:41:38] Moving on.
[00:41:39] Moving on
[00:41:40] very, very
[00:41:41] quickly.
[00:41:45] I'll make a
[00:41:46] commotion right
[00:41:46] now just so
[00:41:47] I care about
[00:41:47] your career and
[00:41:48] life.
[00:41:49] I'm like,
[00:41:51] you know where
[00:41:52] to fucking
[00:41:52] come in.
[00:41:55] No, no.
[00:41:55] I'm not going
[00:41:56] to edit anything.
[00:41:56] Right.
[00:41:57] Let's talk about
[00:41:57] Spurs really quickly
[00:41:58] because we lost
[00:41:59] 3-0 to them
[00:42:01] and they also
[00:42:02] let a 2-0 lead
[00:42:03] slip against Brighton
[00:42:04] and they lost
[00:42:04] 3-2.
[00:42:05] Why isn't anybody
[00:42:06] saying the same
[00:42:07] things as they
[00:42:08] are saying about
[00:42:09] Eric Tanag,
[00:42:09] about Ang Postakoglu
[00:42:10] or is it that
[00:42:11] we are such
[00:42:14] cogs in the
[00:42:15] algorithm machine
[00:42:16] that as Man
[00:42:16] United fans,
[00:42:17] we don't get to
[00:42:18] see that side of
[00:42:18] the media and
[00:42:19] of social media?
[00:42:21] Yeah, Spurs
[00:42:21] didn't dominate
[00:42:22] English football
[00:42:22] for 20-30 years.
[00:42:24] That's true.
[00:42:25] That is true.
[00:42:26] That is why
[00:42:27] there is more
[00:42:29] focus on the
[00:42:30] results and
[00:42:31] the trials and
[00:42:32] tribulations at
[00:42:32] Man United.
[00:42:35] Mukesh,
[00:42:35] see where we've
[00:42:36] come down to,
[00:42:36] man.
[00:42:37] Our source of
[00:42:39] pride is what
[00:42:39] we did 30
[00:42:40] years ago.
[00:42:40] Pretty much.
[00:42:43] What?
[00:42:44] What is the
[00:42:45] phrase?
[00:42:45] What is the
[00:42:46] phrase Mukesh?
[00:42:47] What is the
[00:42:47] phrase?
[00:42:48] How the
[00:42:48] tables have
[00:42:49] turned and
[00:42:50] the turns have
[00:42:50] tabled.
[00:42:51] Oh my God.
[00:42:54] Like Michael
[00:42:55] Scott.
[00:42:56] Like Michael
[00:42:56] Scott.
[00:42:56] You guys are in
[00:42:57] your Gerard
[00:42:58] Hulier and
[00:43:00] finding Rafa
[00:43:01] Merite's
[00:43:01] around.
[00:43:02] There's a while
[00:43:03] before Klopp
[00:43:05] slash the next
[00:43:06] Foggy comes.
[00:43:06] Because I think
[00:43:07] that's how it's
[00:43:07] been for United
[00:43:07] also.
[00:43:08] Even before
[00:43:08] Foggy,
[00:43:09] there was a
[00:43:09] big period of
[00:43:10] drought after
[00:43:11] Matt
[00:43:12] Boosby.
[00:43:13] So I
[00:43:14] think this is
[00:43:15] the history.
[00:43:16] This is the
[00:43:17] cycle.
[00:43:19] This is how it
[00:43:20] is to be a
[00:43:20] United fan.
[00:43:24] hopeful.
[00:43:26] If Tenha does
[00:43:27] manage to turn
[00:43:28] it around at
[00:43:28] United, then I
[00:43:30] think there's
[00:43:31] nothing this man
[00:43:32] can't do.
[00:43:32] Then he'll just
[00:43:37] keep going up.
[00:43:39] Because then he's
[00:43:40] faced the worst
[00:43:41] of it and still
[00:43:42] come out on the
[00:43:43] other side.
[00:43:43] Yeah.
[00:43:44] I mean, one
[00:43:45] can hope man.
[00:43:46] That is the hope
[00:43:47] that we live with.
[00:43:48] That is the hope
[00:43:48] that we pray for.
[00:43:49] Blind hope.
[00:43:50] But Spurs are
[00:43:51] the first club in
[00:43:53] Premier League
[00:43:53] history to lose
[00:43:54] 10 games in which
[00:43:56] they led by two
[00:43:57] goals or more.
[00:43:58] Now, can we
[00:44:00] shift the question?
[00:44:01] Yeah, let's
[00:44:01] shift that question
[00:44:03] to Ange
[00:44:03] Postoggi.
[00:44:04] And I feel like
[00:44:05] Ange doesn't get
[00:44:07] the kind of hate
[00:44:08] that Tenha gets
[00:44:08] because of the
[00:44:09] kind of personality
[00:44:10] he is and how
[00:44:12] much that differs
[00:44:13] from Tenha as a
[00:44:14] personality.
[00:44:15] Tenha is very
[00:44:16] Dutch.
[00:44:16] He's very to the
[00:44:17] point, very blunt.
[00:44:19] does not have
[00:44:20] charisma at all
[00:44:22] even though he
[00:44:22] tries very hard
[00:44:23] for it.
[00:44:24] Whereas Postoggi
[00:44:25] being Australian,
[00:44:26] he's very pally
[00:44:26] with his players.
[00:44:27] He's very pally
[00:44:28] with the media.
[00:44:28] He can get angry
[00:44:30] and he shows it
[00:44:30] to the media
[00:44:31] and to his players.
[00:44:32] But by and large,
[00:44:33] everybody loves him.
[00:44:34] And how much
[00:44:35] of that should
[00:44:37] color your opinion
[00:44:38] about how good
[00:44:40] of a manager you
[00:44:40] are?
[00:44:41] Or is it just
[00:44:41] Spurs?
[00:44:42] No, it's just
[00:44:43] Spurs.
[00:44:44] But like before
[00:44:45] when the season
[00:44:45] started, when they
[00:44:46] lost their first
[00:44:47] three, four games,
[00:44:48] he was asked
[00:44:48] the same question
[00:44:49] like Tenha came
[00:44:50] out and said,
[00:44:51] I'm the second
[00:44:52] best team
[00:44:52] behind Man City
[00:44:53] because he won
[00:44:53] trophies.
[00:44:54] I mean,
[00:44:55] that's not what
[00:44:55] he meant to
[00:44:55] say, but that
[00:44:56] the dude doesn't
[00:44:56] know translation,
[00:44:57] right?
[00:44:57] So yeah,
[00:44:59] Postoggi was also
[00:45:00] pressed in the
[00:45:01] media.
[00:45:01] He's like,
[00:45:02] mate, I don't
[00:45:04] think I'll win
[00:45:05] my second season.
[00:45:05] I always win
[00:45:06] in my second
[00:45:06] season, right?
[00:45:07] He was under
[00:45:08] pressure.
[00:45:09] United
[00:45:12] done.
[00:45:13] That's it.
[00:45:13] You have to
[00:45:14] beat United
[00:45:14] pressure off
[00:45:15] you.
[00:45:16] But honestly,
[00:45:17] again, you
[00:45:17] beat United,
[00:45:19] you went ahead.
[00:45:19] Okay.
[00:45:20] They won the
[00:45:20] last five
[00:45:21] games including
[00:45:21] United.
[00:45:22] So he
[00:45:22] turned the
[00:45:23] form around
[00:45:24] but then again
[00:45:24] they've come
[00:45:25] and lost to
[00:45:25] Brighton and
[00:45:26] that is
[00:45:26] when Spurs
[00:45:26] and this
[00:45:27] is also
[00:45:27] the criticism
[00:45:28] of Posto
[00:45:29] Guglou.
[00:45:30] I play
[00:45:30] high line
[00:45:30] football only
[00:45:31] but it's
[00:45:32] not
[00:45:32] quarter
[00:45:32] top
[00:45:32] for
[00:45:33] last year
[00:45:33] and he's
[00:45:34] doubling
[00:45:34] down this
[00:45:35] year.
[00:45:35] This is
[00:45:35] my style
[00:45:36] of play.
[00:45:37] His
[00:45:37] style of
[00:45:37] play is
[00:45:38] not
[00:45:38] working.
[00:45:38] It didn't
[00:45:38] work
[00:45:38] last
[00:45:39] year
[00:45:39] but
[00:45:39] everyone
[00:45:39] was like
[00:45:40] oh
[00:45:40] look
[00:45:40] at
[00:45:40] Posto
[00:45:40] Guglou
[00:45:41] style
[00:45:41] of
[00:45:41] play
[00:45:41] and
[00:45:42] I guess
[00:45:42] no
[00:45:42] style
[00:45:42] of
[00:45:42] play
[00:45:42] although
[00:45:43] they
[00:45:43] keep
[00:45:43] saying
[00:45:43] style
[00:45:44] of
[00:45:44] play
[00:45:44] to
[00:45:44] it
[00:45:44] triggers
[00:45:44] me
[00:45:44] anyway.
[00:45:46] Okay,
[00:45:47] he has
[00:45:47] style of
[00:45:47] play
[00:45:48] properly
[00:45:48] proven
[00:45:49] not to
[00:45:50] finish
[00:45:50] for
[00:45:50] top
[00:45:50] four.
[00:45:50] Like
[00:45:51] no
[00:45:51] chance.
[00:45:52] Doubling
[00:45:52] down
[00:45:52] on
[00:45:53] this
[00:45:53] year
[00:45:54] wants
[00:45:54] to
[00:45:54] go beat
[00:45:55] Chelsea
[00:45:56] the
[00:45:56] same
[00:45:56] way.
[00:45:57] What
[00:45:57] is
[00:45:59] going
[00:45:59] to
[00:45:59] happen
[00:45:59] to him?
[00:46:08] I
[00:46:10] actually
[00:46:11] find it
[00:46:11] funny.
[00:46:11] I
[00:46:11] think
[00:46:11] after
[00:46:12] the
[00:46:12] post
[00:46:13] match
[00:46:13] Posto
[00:46:13] Guglou
[00:46:13] was like
[00:46:14] I've
[00:46:14] never
[00:46:15] seen
[00:46:15] anything
[00:46:15] like
[00:46:16] this
[00:46:16] before.
[00:46:17] And
[00:46:17] I
[00:46:17] think
[00:46:17] everyone
[00:46:17] is
[00:46:38] on
[00:46:38] brand
[00:46:38] or
[00:46:38] whatever.
[00:46:39] But
[00:46:40] you're
[00:46:40] right.
[00:46:40] He
[00:46:40] did
[00:46:41] say
[00:46:41] that
[00:46:42] I
[00:46:42] always
[00:46:42] win
[00:46:43] in
[00:46:43] my
[00:46:43] second
[00:46:43] season.
[00:46:44] What
[00:46:44] are
[00:46:44] to
[00:46:44] win
[00:46:45] this
[00:46:45] season?
[00:46:46] I
[00:46:46] won
[00:46:46] win.
[00:47:08] No
[00:47:08] on him.
[00:47:09] I
[00:47:09] think
[00:47:11] the
[00:47:12] beauty
[00:47:12] is
[00:47:12] this.
[00:47:13] There
[00:47:15] was
[00:47:15] not
[00:47:16] one.
[00:47:16] There
[00:47:17] is
[00:47:17] not
[00:47:17] see
[00:47:18] because
[00:47:18] first
[00:47:19] of
[00:47:19] he
[00:47:20] was
[00:47:20] third
[00:47:21] choice
[00:47:21] technically
[00:47:21] in
[00:47:22] the
[00:47:22] public
[00:47:22] I
[00:47:22] know
[00:47:22] I
[00:47:23] don't
[00:47:23] know
[00:47:23] what
[00:47:23] no
[00:47:23] one
[00:47:38] was
[00:47:38] Ruben
[00:47:38] Amorim
[00:47:38] and
[00:47:39] then
[00:47:39] Slott
[00:47:39] came
[00:47:40] up.
[00:47:40] The
[00:47:42] good
[00:47:43] thing
[00:47:43] is
[00:47:43] Slott
[00:47:43] had no
[00:47:45] expectation
[00:47:45] of it.
[00:47:46] is like
[00:47:46] this is
[00:47:47] the
[00:47:47] David
[00:47:47] Moyes
[00:47:47] season
[00:47:48] or
[00:47:48] worse.
[00:47:50] Finishing
[00:47:50] on par
[00:47:51] with
[00:47:51] David
[00:47:51] Moyes
[00:47:52] would
[00:47:52] have
[00:47:52] been
[00:47:52] a
[00:48:08] so
[00:48:08] good
[00:48:08] but
[00:48:10] you
[00:48:10] have
[00:48:11] to
[00:48:11] say
[00:48:11] there
[00:48:11] was
[00:48:11] some
[00:48:11] expectation
[00:48:12] if you're
[00:48:13] following
[00:48:13] Klopp
[00:48:14] and
[00:48:14] you're
[00:48:14] getting
[00:48:16] that
[00:48:16] team
[00:48:16] there
[00:48:17] were
[00:48:17] expectations
[00:48:18] from
[00:48:18] David
[00:48:18] Moyes
[00:48:18] also
[00:48:19] like
[00:48:19] if
[00:48:19] I
[00:48:19] go
[00:48:19] back
[00:48:20] to
[00:48:20] 2013
[00:48:20] and
[00:48:20] that
[00:48:21] fateful
[00:48:21] season
[00:48:21] that
[00:48:22] is
[00:48:22] etched
[00:48:23] into
[00:48:23] our
[00:48:23] memories
[00:48:24] forever
[00:48:26] everybody
[00:48:27] was
[00:48:27] like
[00:48:27] oh
[00:48:27] fuck
[00:48:28] he's
[00:48:28] the
[00:48:28] chosen
[00:48:28] one
[00:48:29] Alex
[00:48:29] Ferguson
[00:48:29] personally
[00:48:30] selected
[00:48:32] he's
[00:48:32] Scottish
[00:48:32] he's
[00:48:33] Scottish
[00:48:34] Everton
[00:48:34] Everton
[00:48:35] took
[00:48:35] top
[00:48:36] four
[00:48:37] what
[00:48:38] will
[00:48:38] he
[00:48:38] be
[00:48:38] able
[00:48:39] to
[00:48:39] do
[00:48:39] with
[00:48:39] a
[00:48:39] team
[00:48:39] like
[00:48:40] United
[00:48:40] with
[00:48:40] the
[00:48:41] superstars
[00:48:41] that
[00:48:41] United
[00:48:41] have
[00:48:42] and
[00:48:42] then
[00:48:43] of
[00:48:43] course
[00:48:43] it
[00:48:43] all
[00:48:43] went
[00:48:43] to
[00:48:43] shit
[00:48:43] so
[00:48:44] if
[00:48:44] you
[00:48:44] look
[00:48:45] at
[00:49:10] he
[00:49:30] was
[00:49:30] getting
[00:49:30] rid
[00:49:30] of
[00:49:30] Ajax's
[00:49:30] monopoly
[00:49:30] in
[00:49:30] and
[00:49:31] he
[00:49:31] came
[00:49:31] in
[00:49:31] and
[00:49:31] he
[00:49:31] took
[00:49:32] Klopp's
[00:49:33] players
[00:49:33] like
[00:49:33] he's
[00:49:33] not
[00:49:34] made
[00:49:34] signings
[00:49:35] like
[00:49:35] KSA
[00:49:35] is
[00:49:35] the
[00:49:35] only
[00:49:36] signing
[00:49:36] in
[00:49:36] Liverpool
[00:49:36] made
[00:49:37] so
[00:49:37] it
[00:49:38] is
[00:49:38] by
[00:49:38] and
[00:49:38] large
[00:49:38] Klopp's
[00:49:39] team
[00:49:40] so
[00:49:40] in
[00:49:41] a
[00:49:41] certain
[00:49:41] way
[00:49:42] it's
[00:49:43] the
[00:49:43] same
[00:49:43] sort
[00:49:43] of
[00:49:43] similarity
[00:49:44] you
[00:49:44] can't
[00:49:44] say
[00:49:45] that
[00:49:45] oh
[00:49:45] it
[00:49:45] is
[00:49:45] in
[00:49:46] hindsight
[00:49:46] you
[00:49:47] can
[00:49:47] say
[00:49:47] David
[00:49:48] Moise
[00:49:48] season
[00:49:49] but
[00:49:49] when
[00:49:50] David
[00:49:50] Moise
[00:49:50] came
[00:49:51] there
[00:49:51] were
[00:49:51] expectations
[00:49:52] and
[00:49:52] similar
[00:49:53] expectations
[00:49:53] are there
[00:49:58] with
[00:50:00] we all
[00:50:00] thought
[00:50:01] as
[00:50:01] United
[00:50:02] fans
[00:50:02] at
[00:50:02] least
[00:50:02] we
[00:50:02] were
[00:50:02] like
[00:50:03] oh
[00:50:03] fuck
[00:50:03] now
[00:50:03] it
[00:50:03] begins
[00:50:04] amazing
[00:50:04] let's
[00:50:05] have
[00:50:05] fun
[00:50:05] but
[00:50:06] it
[00:50:06] was
[00:50:06] just
[00:50:06] a
[00:50:07] blip
[00:50:07] it
[00:50:07] was
[00:50:30] minutes
[00:50:30] of
[00:50:31] bashing
[00:50:31] but
[00:50:31] to
[00:50:32] be
[00:50:32] honest
[00:50:32] I
[00:50:33] feel
[00:50:33] like
[00:50:33] whether
[00:50:33] it's
[00:50:33] Bologna
[00:50:34] in
[00:50:34] the
[00:50:35] Champions
[00:50:35] League
[00:50:36] they're
[00:50:37] all
[00:50:37] softer
[00:50:38] teams
[00:50:38] not
[00:50:39] teams
[00:50:39] after
[00:50:40] this
[00:50:41] he's
[00:50:42] playing
[00:50:42] Chelsea
[00:50:43] now
[00:50:43] this
[00:50:43] is
[00:50:43] a
[00:50:43] Chelsea
[00:50:44] that's
[00:50:44] on
[00:50:44] the
[00:50:44] rise
[00:50:45] this
[00:50:45] is
[00:50:46] a
[00:50:46] Chelsea
[00:50:46] that
[00:50:46] knows
[00:50:46] how
[00:50:46] to
[00:50:46] shoot
[00:50:47] it
[00:50:48] is
[00:50:49] a
[00:50:49] Chelsea
[00:50:49] that
[00:50:49] nobody
[00:50:50] knows
[00:50:51] including
[00:50:52] Marezka
[00:50:54] so
[00:50:56] pretty
[00:50:57] much
[00:50:57] even
[00:50:57] the
[00:50:57] players
[00:50:58] all
[00:50:58] the
[00:50:59] other
[00:50:59] teams
[00:50:59] that
[00:50:59] we've
[00:51:00] played
[00:51:00] so
[00:51:00] far
[00:51:00] the
[00:51:01] players
[00:51:01] know
[00:51:02] how
[00:51:02] to
[00:51:02] play
[00:51:02] them
[00:51:03] beat
[00:51:03] them
[00:51:03] etc
[00:51:03] of
[00:51:04] course
[00:51:04] the
[00:51:05] clean
[00:51:05] sheets
[00:51:05] are
[00:51:06] impressive
[00:51:06] it is
[00:51:06] crazy
[00:51:06] that
[00:51:07] seven
[00:51:07] games
[00:51:07] only
[00:51:07] two
[00:51:08] goals
[00:51:08] but
[00:51:24] I
[00:51:25] one
[00:51:25] really
[00:51:26] challenging
[00:51:27] team
[00:51:27] anywhere
[00:51:27] in
[00:51:28] between
[00:51:28] once
[00:51:28] we
[00:51:29] started
[00:51:29] Chelsea
[00:51:29] I
[00:51:29] think
[00:51:29] there's
[00:51:30] a bunch
[00:51:30] of
[00:51:30] tough
[00:51:30] games
[00:51:30] after
[00:51:31] that
[00:51:31] that
[00:51:32] to
[00:51:32] me
[00:51:32] is
[00:51:32] the
[00:51:32] real
[00:51:33] that's
[00:51:33] when
[00:51:33] slot
[00:51:34] era
[00:51:34] begins
[00:51:34] until
[00:51:35] now
[00:51:35] we
[00:51:35] just
[00:51:35] in fact
[00:51:36] I'm
[00:51:36] thinking
[00:51:37] like
[00:51:37] three
[00:51:37] points
[00:51:37] are
[00:51:38] lost
[00:51:38] what
[00:51:38] three
[00:51:39] points
[00:51:39] that
[00:51:39] you'll
[00:51:39] find
[00:51:39] damn
[00:51:40] hard
[00:51:40] to get
[00:51:40] in
[00:51:40] December
[00:51:41] and
[00:51:41] Jan
[00:51:41] I'm
[00:51:42] like
[00:51:42] you've
[00:51:42] lost
[00:51:43] that
[00:51:43] also
[00:51:43] you've
[00:51:43] lost
[00:51:43] those
[00:51:44] three
[00:51:44] points
[00:51:45] screwed
[00:51:46] like
[00:51:46] even
[00:51:47] watching
[00:51:47] Liverpool
[00:51:47] apart
[00:51:48] from
[00:51:49] a few
[00:51:49] tweaks
[00:51:49] here and
[00:51:50] there
[00:51:50] with the
[00:51:50] formation
[00:51:50] with the
[00:51:51] system
[00:51:51] with the
[00:51:51] way
[00:51:52] they
[00:51:52] approach
[00:51:52] the game
[00:51:53] but
[00:51:53] more or
[00:51:54] less
[00:51:54] you guys
[00:51:56] know what
[00:51:57] you've been
[00:51:57] doing
[00:51:58] I think
[00:51:58] just keep
[00:51:59] trucking along
[00:51:59] you guys are
[00:52:00] doing great
[00:52:02] let's do it
[00:52:07] double tap
[00:52:08] on United
[00:52:09] with the easy
[00:52:10] fixtures thing
[00:52:11] we came back
[00:52:11] for it
[00:52:14] but also
[00:52:15] can you
[00:52:16] imagine
[00:52:16] how nice
[00:52:17] it must
[00:52:17] feel
[00:52:17] for a
[00:52:18] fan
[00:52:18] of a
[00:52:18] club
[00:52:19] to say
[00:52:19] these
[00:52:19] were
[00:52:19] all
[00:52:20] easy
[00:52:20] teams
[00:52:20] we're
[00:52:21] watching
[00:52:21] this
[00:52:21] can
[00:52:23] happen
[00:52:23] in
[00:52:23] match
[00:52:24] can
[00:52:26] no game
[00:52:29] is an
[00:52:29] easy
[00:52:29] team
[00:52:30] every
[00:52:31] team
[00:52:31] is a
[00:52:31] boogie
[00:52:31] team
[00:52:32] every
[00:52:32] team
[00:52:32] is a
[00:52:32] boogie
[00:52:33] team
[00:52:34] every
[00:52:37] match
[00:52:38] is a
[00:52:38] banana
[00:52:38] peel
[00:52:39] every
[00:52:40] game
[00:52:40] before
[00:52:41] we
[00:52:41] wrap up
[00:52:42] Chelsea
[00:52:43] drew
[00:52:44] with
[00:52:44] Forrest
[00:52:44] FPL
[00:52:45] fuck
[00:52:45] up
[00:52:45] for all
[00:52:46] of us
[00:52:46] who sold
[00:52:46] Cole
[00:52:47] Palmer
[00:52:47] did anybody
[00:52:48] sell
[00:52:48] Cole
[00:52:48] Palmer
[00:52:49] never
[00:52:49] bought
[00:52:50] him
[00:52:51] you are much
[00:52:52] better at
[00:52:53] FPL than I am
[00:52:53] I'm
[00:52:54] second in the
[00:52:55] corner flag
[00:52:56] I have
[00:52:57] told you
[00:52:58] I
[00:52:58] told you
[00:52:59] Cole
[00:53:00] Palmer
[00:53:00] and
[00:53:01] Nicole
[00:53:01] Jackson
[00:53:01] and
[00:53:04] ruined it
[00:53:05] but anyway
[00:53:06] that was
[00:53:06] but the fun
[00:53:07] part was
[00:53:07] Everton
[00:53:08] and Newcastle
[00:53:10] United
[00:53:10] at
[00:53:10] Goodison
[00:53:11] Park
[00:53:11] because
[00:53:11] Anthony
[00:53:12] Gordon
[00:53:12] came back
[00:53:13] to
[00:53:13] Goodison
[00:53:13] Park
[00:53:13] for the
[00:53:14] first time
[00:53:14] got a penalty
[00:53:16] and took
[00:53:17] the ball
[00:53:17] with a big
[00:53:18] smile on his
[00:53:18] face
[00:53:19] while
[00:53:19] Goodison
[00:53:19] Park
[00:53:20] fucking
[00:53:20] pulled
[00:53:21] the shit
[00:53:21] out of
[00:53:21] this
[00:53:22] Judas
[00:53:22] as they
[00:53:23] would
[00:53:23] like to
[00:53:24] call him
[00:53:24] and then
[00:53:25] Pickford
[00:53:25] saved it
[00:53:26] it was
[00:53:27] one of
[00:53:28] the most
[00:53:29] cathartic
[00:53:29] moments
[00:53:30] in a
[00:53:31] non-Everton
[00:53:31] fan's
[00:53:32] life
[00:53:32] who doesn't
[00:53:34] care about
[00:53:34] Everton
[00:53:35] I felt
[00:53:36] good
[00:53:36] because
[00:53:36] Anthony
[00:53:37] Gordon
[00:53:37] looks like
[00:53:38] a
[00:53:42] harami
[00:53:43] child
[00:53:44] like he
[00:53:44] looks like
[00:53:45] a spoiled
[00:53:45] brat
[00:53:45] and
[00:53:47] for
[00:53:48] everything
[00:53:48] that
[00:53:48] Everton
[00:53:49] have
[00:53:49] gone
[00:53:49] through
[00:53:49] over
[00:53:50] the
[00:53:50] last
[00:53:50] few
[00:53:50] years
[00:53:50] with
[00:53:51] their
[00:53:51] ownership
[00:53:51] and
[00:53:52] with
[00:53:52] every
[00:53:52] bit
[00:53:53] of
[00:53:53] nonsense
[00:53:54] point
[00:53:54] deduction
[00:53:54] and all
[00:53:55] which
[00:53:55] on
[00:53:55] Daesh
[00:53:55] doing
[00:53:56] everything
[00:53:57] he can
[00:53:57] to keep
[00:53:57] them in
[00:53:58] the
[00:53:58] Premier
[00:53:58] League
[00:53:58] and
[00:53:59] succeeding
[00:53:59] by the
[00:53:59] skin
[00:54:00] of his
[00:54:00] teeth
[00:54:01] this is
[00:54:02] the
[00:54:02] victory
[00:54:02] that
[00:54:02] they
[00:54:03] deserved
[00:54:03] this is
[00:54:05] that little
[00:54:05] moral
[00:54:06] victory
[00:54:06] that they
[00:54:07] fucking
[00:54:07] needed
[00:54:08] and deserved
[00:54:09] and I
[00:54:09] feel like
[00:54:10] Daesh also
[00:54:11] must have
[00:54:11] said to
[00:54:11] his players
[00:54:11] our season
[00:54:12] begins now
[00:54:15] but it was
[00:54:16] also great
[00:54:17] to see the
[00:54:17] Everton
[00:54:17] social media
[00:54:18] account
[00:54:18] play that
[00:54:20] clip of the
[00:54:20] penalty save
[00:54:21] and put a
[00:54:21] negative buzzer
[00:54:22] on it because
[00:54:23] a fan
[00:54:23] asked for
[00:54:24] it
[00:54:24] they are
[00:54:25] going all
[00:54:25] out and
[00:54:26] trolling their
[00:54:26] ex-players
[00:54:28] imagine you
[00:54:29] can't scope
[00:54:29] our small
[00:54:30] hands man
[00:54:32] imagine not
[00:54:33] being able to
[00:54:34] scope our
[00:54:34] small hands
[00:54:35] yeah but
[00:54:35] to give him
[00:54:36] credit
[00:54:37] Jordan Pickford
[00:54:38] is a
[00:54:39] classic
[00:54:39] shithouse
[00:54:40] he's a
[00:54:41] very underrated
[00:54:42] shithouse
[00:54:43] because
[00:54:43] Emmy Martinez
[00:54:44] takes all
[00:54:45] that flack
[00:54:46] nobody really
[00:54:47] sees how much
[00:54:48] of a shithouse
[00:54:49] Pickford actually
[00:54:50] is because
[00:54:51] even in the
[00:54:52] Euros for
[00:54:52] England at
[00:54:53] penalty shootouts
[00:54:54] and all he
[00:54:54] was constantly
[00:54:55] going up to
[00:54:55] the taker
[00:54:56] psyching him
[00:54:57] out then
[00:54:58] telling the
[00:54:58] referee
[00:54:59] no no I'm
[00:54:59] going to the
[00:55:01] referee I'm going
[00:55:02] to the referee
[00:55:04] okay I can do it
[00:55:05] that that
[00:55:06] delaying the cake
[00:55:06] doing all that
[00:55:07] nonsense and he
[00:55:08] did that with
[00:55:09] Gordon as well
[00:55:09] and it worked
[00:55:12] no he's a
[00:55:13] keeper with a
[00:55:14] lot of
[00:55:15] experience man
[00:55:16] he's been
[00:55:16] there for
[00:55:17] a long time
[00:55:19] so he knows
[00:55:19] how to deal
[00:55:20] with most
[00:55:22] of the
[00:55:22] situations that
[00:55:23] can come up
[00:55:23] in a goalkeeper's
[00:55:24] thing and he
[00:55:25] knows how to
[00:55:25] especially a
[00:55:26] young player like
[00:55:27] Gordon he knows
[00:55:28] how to get under
[00:55:29] their skin man
[00:55:29] it's not easy
[00:55:30] to just wait
[00:55:31] to take the
[00:55:32] penalty
[00:55:33] like a delayed
[00:55:33] penalty puts so
[00:55:35] much pressure
[00:55:35] especially
[00:55:37] when you're
[00:55:38] facing hardcore
[00:55:39] Evertonians
[00:55:40] behind the
[00:55:41] goal who are
[00:55:42] just shouting
[00:55:44] it's roaring
[00:55:44] absolutely
[00:55:45] roaring
[00:55:46] yeah yeah
[00:55:46] all right on
[00:55:47] that note it
[00:55:48] is time to end
[00:55:48] this episode
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[00:55:49] much everybody
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