[00:00:00] Van Nissenroy, Kukul, Allegri or could it be Phil Neville? Welcome to The Corner Flag, I'm Amogh.
[00:00:06] I'm Mukesh. I'm Raunak. And I'm Animesh.
[00:00:16] Welcome to the show everybody. Joining us today are Animesh and Raunak.
[00:00:20] They have been on The Corner Flag before. They are of course from the Manchester United Mumbai supporters group,
[00:00:25] members of the supporters group, YouTube channel, Football Bloody Hell, all-round nice people.
[00:00:32] And I just thought today was the perfect day for me to have some extra emotional, physical, mental support.
[00:00:41] Because it's gotten so bad that Animesh and Raunak have been kind enough to wear their United jerseys on this recording.
[00:00:49] I'm wearing a Furentina jersey today. It's all day.
[00:00:54] Shit, you know what this feels like to me?
[00:00:56] You know when you make fun of a kid too much, he comes with his elder brother and the elder brother's friends.
[00:01:02] I feel like the elder brother's friends are also losers in this scenario.
[00:01:08] Not saying that Animesh and Raunak you guys are losers,
[00:01:11] but just saying that we are unfortunately following a losing club or a drawing club as it turned out this weekend against Rastad Vida.
[00:01:22] Yeah.
[00:01:23] Mikesh is here. Mikesh is our resident Liverpool fan.
[00:01:28] So, he's just going to be enjoying this therapy session.
[00:01:33] He is going to be chiming in with ridiculous hot takes till we decide to give him some talking time on the Liverpool result against Crystal Palace later on in the show.
[00:01:43] Much later on in the show.
[00:01:45] But yes, we start off with that result which was Man United 0, Aston Villa 0 or Villa 0, Man United 0 considering it was at Villa Park.
[00:01:54] Coming off the back of a 3-3 draw in the Europa League against FC 20.
[00:02:01] Sorry, against...
[00:02:02] Fuck, I've forgotten who the team was now.
[00:02:05] Porto, Porto and...
[00:02:07] Porto.
[00:02:08] Porto.
[00:02:09] Porto?
[00:02:09] 2-2 was FC 20 and 3-3 was...
[00:02:14] 1-1 was 20.
[00:02:15] 1-1.
[00:02:15] They could see this is what...
[00:02:17] There's so many draws.
[00:02:19] Fucking...
[00:02:20] And against Porto, it was a 2-0 lead that we gave up and managed to salvage a 3-3 draw.
[00:02:28] Yeah, Animesh, let's start off with you.
[00:02:31] Coming back to the Premier League result, should United fans and United as a club be happy that we got a point against Aston Villa away from home?
[00:02:41] Context.
[00:02:41] Context.
[00:02:41] With all the context that we have, no.
[00:02:44] But if you asked me after Crystal Palace, I would have taken a Porto and a Villa draw.
[00:02:49] They're not bad results any time of the year, any season, right?
[00:02:53] You tell someone Champions League away, Porto draw.
[00:02:56] I mean, you should win but a draw is not bad.
[00:02:59] Fenerbahce draw, hostile Turkey.
[00:03:01] Okay, fine.
[00:03:03] But then you lose to Tottenham at home the way you did, right?
[00:03:06] It wasn't losing to Liverpool.
[00:03:07] Liverpool, United fans could have forgiven and they kind of got over it maybe.
[00:03:10] Yeah.
[00:03:13] Then you come into a Villa which doesn't have Onana, which has been like a pivotal main player for them, right?
[00:03:18] Yeah.
[00:03:18] Yeah.
[00:03:19] And then you tell me, he passed the message along.
[00:03:21] I am sacking my players.
[00:03:23] Not to rotate.
[00:03:25] He's just trying to pull a point, right?
[00:03:27] Yeah.
[00:03:28] And look, we could have won.
[00:03:31] We're not great but Villa won great either.
[00:03:33] It was a battle of two very tired teams from their European escapades.
[00:03:39] Ours was not losing and ours was beating Bayern Munich.
[00:03:42] So that's the quality of two teams right now.
[00:03:46] But yeah, I mean, okay.
[00:03:50] I would still say I am happy and I might be called delusional because Villa draw is not bad.
[00:03:55] We beat them twice last year.
[00:03:57] Should have beaten them.
[00:03:58] Could have beaten them 1-0.
[00:03:59] If Ghanachar knew how to pass the ball, he forgot and he went and became prime Jesse Lingard.
[00:04:06] Talking about the rotation, in the game against Porto, Delict and Martinez started in defense
[00:04:13] and they were heavily criticized for their performance because it was quite shambolic, the defending.
[00:04:19] And that's not something you expect from players like Matiz Delict and Lissandro Martinez
[00:04:23] who are supposed to be our starting center-half choices, right?
[00:04:26] Like that is the center-half partnership that Ten Hag wanted, that the fans were excited about.
[00:04:31] And we were like, fuck, finally an upgrade from Maguire and Evans.
[00:04:36] And they played so badly that Ten Hag had to put Maguire and Evans
[00:04:39] and they ended up keeping a clean sheet and doing on paper a much better job
[00:04:43] including Johnny Evans who is a 36-year-old returnee to Man United
[00:04:48] who is playing like his prime Rio Ferdinand.
[00:04:51] Wait, guys, was he your best defender?
[00:04:53] Not even your best player, but was he the best defender for sure for United?
[00:04:57] Johnny Evans in the game?
[00:04:59] Yeah.
[00:04:59] In the game, yeah.
[00:05:00] Yeah, he did well.
[00:05:02] Wow.
[00:05:03] I mean, you know, it was a surprise.
[00:05:05] So after the Porto game, those, I mean, Delict and Martinez,
[00:05:11] they need to find some synergy between them because they're both
[00:05:15] not able to cover each other's asses, so to say.
[00:05:18] And, you know, I mean, I give credit to the Porto striker,
[00:05:21] that Samu guy who was, I don't know, six feet, seven inches tall,
[00:05:24] I don't know, somehow.
[00:05:25] And he was just so strong, so bullish.
[00:05:28] He absolutely manhandled every single United defender.
[00:05:31] Yeah.
[00:05:32] So that was absolutely crazy.
[00:05:33] But we should have held on to the 2-0 lead.
[00:05:36] And at least made something more out of it, man.
[00:05:39] Like we were so, so brittle in the second half.
[00:05:42] That guy just absolutely killed us.
[00:05:44] Yeah.
[00:05:45] And coming into the Aston Villa game and I saw the lineup,
[00:05:47] I was like, okay, Tenag is asking for the sack.
[00:05:50] I mean, you know, you put in Maguire and you put in Evans
[00:05:54] against Morgan Rogers and Ollie Watkins.
[00:05:57] Both of them are very fast and, you know,
[00:05:58] like to get in behind the defender.
[00:06:00] I thought we were going in for a hammering.
[00:06:04] And like a very bad performance.
[00:06:06] I was almost set for it.
[00:06:07] But honestly, the nil-nil draw is just,
[00:06:10] it's more credit to Villa's lack of finishing.
[00:06:13] I'm not saying we were shit, but we were nowhere near good.
[00:06:17] I mean, I know we had the final 96th, 95th minute counter
[00:06:20] where Garnaccio should have passed that ball
[00:06:22] and we could have won the game.
[00:06:24] But, you know, like it's just those individual moments
[00:06:26] that we're piling for every game.
[00:06:27] We don't have a set structure.
[00:06:28] We don't even attack 90 minutes of the game.
[00:06:32] You know, we have like barely few phases in the game
[00:06:35] where we find some counter-attacking rhythm
[00:06:37] or the other team just, you know, loses a bit of gas.
[00:06:39] And I think we really need to have some change.
[00:06:42] I don't know in the management,
[00:06:44] in the, like in players' performances,
[00:06:47] in players' tactics, in their work rate.
[00:06:50] I don't know what it is, man.
[00:06:51] But this is tiring.
[00:06:53] It's tiring to be a United fan.
[00:06:54] It is very tiring.
[00:06:56] So tiring that I have stopped watching late-night kickoffs
[00:07:00] in the Europa League
[00:07:01] because it is just not worth it staying up till 2.33 a.m.
[00:07:05] to see that sort of level of performance
[00:07:08] from the team that you support
[00:07:09] because not only is your sleep for the night ruined,
[00:07:12] your next morning is also ruined.
[00:07:14] So, it's just not worth it.
[00:07:16] You can have it doing a little less
[00:07:17] by watching the highlights.
[00:07:19] But that 3-3 game looked fun.
[00:07:21] I mean, losing the lead part
[00:07:24] looked like a fun game.
[00:07:25] I mean, if you're not a United supporter,
[00:07:27] it was a fun game
[00:07:28] because who doesn't want to see a team
[00:07:31] go 2-0 up in like, what, 20-25 minutes
[00:07:34] then lose it to go back to 2-2
[00:07:37] get into a losing position at 3-2
[00:07:39] and then finally have Harry Maguire, of all people,
[00:07:43] equalize and stop its time to make it 3-3.
[00:07:45] For the neutral, I completely agree with you.
[00:07:47] That was a fantastic game.
[00:07:50] Have you seen Brentford's last few games
[00:07:52] how they've been scoring really early?
[00:07:54] Like the first, second minute,
[00:07:55] they're scoring and it's madness.
[00:07:57] And like this game,
[00:07:58] I think the recent game,
[00:07:59] I forgot who it was against.
[00:08:01] But they got the goal in the second minute.
[00:08:03] Like one minute in 14, 15 seconds.
[00:08:05] You should see those first few minutes.
[00:08:07] Like they have nothing on their mind
[00:08:10] but just put the ball in that half
[00:08:11] and we'll figure something out.
[00:08:13] And I don't see that urgency
[00:08:15] to score a goal
[00:08:16] across 90 minutes in a United game.
[00:08:19] Yeah.
[00:08:19] And that is just like,
[00:08:21] that's the statement that defines United right now.
[00:08:25] Yeah.
[00:08:25] That urgency to score a goal is just not there.
[00:08:28] Of course, all that urgency
[00:08:29] or the pattern of play
[00:08:31] or the team selections,
[00:08:32] of course,
[00:08:33] comes down to the man in the hot seat.
[00:08:35] It comes down to the manager,
[00:08:37] Eric Ten Hag.
[00:08:38] And just going back to
[00:08:39] Johnny Evans' performance,
[00:08:40] Johnny Evans also said that
[00:08:42] the talk of Eric Ten Hag sacking
[00:08:44] has been playing on the mind
[00:08:46] of the players as well.
[00:08:48] Now,
[00:08:49] so let's shift focus to that
[00:08:51] for a little bit.
[00:08:52] Eric Ten Hag in or out
[00:08:53] has been a question
[00:08:54] that I feel we have been asking each other
[00:08:56] for ages now.
[00:08:57] Over his three years
[00:08:58] in charge of Man United,
[00:09:00] we've asked that question
[00:09:01] every other week almost,
[00:09:02] I feel like.
[00:09:03] And in the middle of that,
[00:09:03] how did he get two trophies?
[00:09:05] But it is,
[00:09:07] like you said,
[00:09:08] Ronak,
[00:09:08] it is coming to a point
[00:09:09] where you're almost wondering
[00:09:10] as a fact,
[00:09:11] does he actually want to get sacked
[00:09:12] with the kind of play
[00:09:14] that he's making,
[00:09:15] with the kind of teams
[00:09:15] that he's selecting?
[00:09:17] Is it,
[00:09:18] is it
[00:09:20] in the club's best interest
[00:09:21] to sack this manager
[00:09:22] at this point of time
[00:09:23] or should they have sacked him
[00:09:24] a long time ago
[00:09:25] or what,
[00:09:26] what can be done?
[00:09:29] See,
[00:09:30] honestly,
[00:09:30] like I feel
[00:09:31] until,
[00:09:31] up until the end
[00:09:32] of last season
[00:09:33] and even the start
[00:09:34] of this season,
[00:09:34] I was fairly on Ten Hag's side
[00:09:37] because I thought
[00:09:38] that he did require
[00:09:39] some time,
[00:09:40] some better reinforcements
[00:09:41] in the summer
[00:09:42] and a better structure
[00:09:43] in the club
[00:09:43] to,
[00:09:44] you know,
[00:09:45] have better performances.
[00:09:47] But I,
[00:09:48] I question his decisions
[00:09:49] lately
[00:09:50] and there have been
[00:09:51] way too many decisions
[00:09:52] that I question,
[00:09:53] especially like things
[00:09:54] like taking Rashford off
[00:09:57] at halftime
[00:09:57] and then not giving Ahmad
[00:09:59] even a single minute
[00:10:00] against Villa
[00:10:01] is,
[00:10:02] he's been one of your
[00:10:03] best performance,
[00:10:04] performers on the wing
[00:10:05] and you don't even play him.
[00:10:07] Like,
[00:10:07] I,
[00:10:08] I don't know how to
[00:10:09] defend Ten Hag anymore
[00:10:10] and honestly,
[00:10:11] at this point,
[00:10:11] I just have more trust
[00:10:12] in Ineos
[00:10:13] as a structure,
[00:10:14] like our higher above
[00:10:16] structure,
[00:10:16] I feel is a little bit
[00:10:17] better
[00:10:17] and I just have to
[00:10:19] kind of trust them
[00:10:20] to take a decision
[00:10:21] and kind of stick with it.
[00:10:22] But guys,
[00:10:23] from what I have read
[00:10:24] a little bit
[00:10:24] that United is still
[00:10:25] creating big chances,
[00:10:27] right?
[00:10:27] It's not like they're
[00:10:27] not creating the big chances
[00:10:29] but because
[00:10:30] it's also weirdly
[00:10:31] a self-fulfilling prophecy,
[00:10:33] right?
[00:10:33] Imagine you're a player
[00:10:34] and this big thought
[00:10:35] is that,
[00:10:35] fuck,
[00:10:36] if I don't score this goal,
[00:10:37] this guy's gonna get fired,
[00:10:38] right?
[00:10:39] So then that's why
[00:10:40] they're not finishing it
[00:10:41] which means he's probably
[00:10:42] gonna get fired
[00:10:43] but then it adds more pleasure.
[00:10:45] Like,
[00:10:45] if there's a clear statement
[00:10:46] saying like,
[00:10:47] hey boss,
[00:10:48] you are going to,
[00:10:49] you're at this job,
[00:10:51] right?
[00:10:51] Let's say you're at this job
[00:10:52] for this season.
[00:10:54] If a player has come out
[00:10:56] and said,
[00:10:56] it's playing on our minds,
[00:10:58] right?
[00:11:00] That means,
[00:11:01] if a player says it,
[00:11:01] that means it's like
[00:11:02] heavy on their mind.
[00:11:03] It's not just,
[00:11:04] by the time it comes up
[00:11:05] to the surface,
[00:11:06] there's a lot more underneath.
[00:11:07] Whereas,
[00:11:08] if there's clarity
[00:11:08] that he's not gonna get fired
[00:11:10] because right now
[00:11:11] it looks like
[00:11:11] they're getting into that
[00:11:12] place where they can't shoot
[00:11:13] but they're not shooting
[00:11:15] because they're like,
[00:11:15] fuck,
[00:11:15] this is terrifying.
[00:11:16] If I miss,
[00:11:17] I don't want to be the guy
[00:11:17] who misses,
[00:11:17] you shoot.
[00:11:18] Because you shoot,
[00:11:19] you shoot
[00:11:20] and then
[00:11:21] everyone,
[00:11:21] nothing really happens
[00:11:22] and you have to wait
[00:11:23] for Maguire to do
[00:11:23] something crazy.
[00:11:25] Our finishing has been
[00:11:27] terrible
[00:11:28] for the last
[00:11:29] so many seasons.
[00:11:30] I feel like
[00:11:31] you can coach
[00:11:32] finishing of course
[00:11:33] but if your manager
[00:11:35] is the guy
[00:11:35] who's getting you
[00:11:36] till the finishing point,
[00:11:38] like till the finishing point,
[00:11:39] not literally finishing point
[00:11:40] but till the point
[00:11:41] where you can finish
[00:11:42] a shot,
[00:11:43] then I don't know
[00:11:44] how much can you
[00:11:45] blame him,
[00:11:46] right?
[00:11:46] You see what happens
[00:11:47] with Chelsea right now,
[00:11:48] right?
[00:11:48] They've gotten just
[00:11:49] a little bit calmer.
[00:11:50] They just calmer
[00:11:51] for one extra second.
[00:11:53] Everybody's calmer
[00:11:53] for one extra second
[00:11:54] and that's it.
[00:11:56] But I think
[00:11:57] United's doing
[00:11:57] the opposite thing
[00:11:58] where they're like,
[00:11:58] let's add more pressure.
[00:12:01] It's clearly looking
[00:12:02] like that's not going
[00:12:03] to work because
[00:12:03] like I said,
[00:12:04] a player has publicly
[00:12:05] said it
[00:12:05] and this is there
[00:12:06] currently the
[00:12:07] calmest,
[00:12:08] not only is the best
[00:12:09] but I'm guessing
[00:12:10] you're calmest player
[00:12:11] at some level.
[00:12:13] If he's saying,
[00:12:15] bro,
[00:12:15] it's playing on our heads,
[00:12:16] I mean,
[00:12:16] I can't even,
[00:12:17] Garnacho and Hoyland
[00:12:18] must be like
[00:12:19] shitting,
[00:12:20] like they must be
[00:12:20] scared,
[00:12:21] man.
[00:12:21] Imagine a player
[00:12:22] pressure on a 21-year-old
[00:12:23] who's like,
[00:12:24] if you don't shoot
[00:12:25] this goal,
[00:12:26] Ten Hag gets fired
[00:12:27] and his kids
[00:12:27] can't go to school.
[00:12:30] It's like,
[00:12:31] oh man,
[00:12:32] and they probably
[00:12:32] play with those kids
[00:12:33] during Christmas
[00:12:34] and they're like,
[00:12:34] shit,
[00:12:35] that kid's face
[00:12:36] comes to mind
[00:12:36] and his wife
[00:12:37] has bought
[00:12:37] some new car
[00:12:38] or something.
[00:12:38] I'm like,
[00:12:39] what is that
[00:12:40] pressure on a
[00:12:41] 21-year-old Hoyland,
[00:12:42] man?
[00:12:44] Kobe,
[00:12:44] Kobe,
[00:12:44] my name has
[00:12:45] to go give
[00:12:45] his exams
[00:12:45] the next day
[00:12:46] and he's like,
[00:12:46] shit,
[00:12:47] man,
[00:12:47] my teacher's
[00:12:47] like probably
[00:12:48] under less stress
[00:12:49] than Eric Tanag
[00:12:49] and like,
[00:12:51] walking in,
[00:12:52] handling all of this.
[00:12:53] No,
[00:12:54] it's crazy.
[00:12:55] It's our intensity
[00:12:56] is just not
[00:12:56] there in the final
[00:12:57] third.
[00:12:57] Are we going
[00:12:58] to be like,
[00:12:59] it is his fault.
[00:13:01] Benny McCarthy
[00:13:02] out,
[00:13:03] who do I
[00:13:03] need to go in?
[00:13:04] Lo and behold
[00:13:05] eight,
[00:13:05] nine games later,
[00:13:06] still the same,
[00:13:07] right?
[00:13:07] And like you
[00:13:08] said,
[00:13:08] bang on,
[00:13:09] right?
[00:13:10] After a certain
[00:13:10] point,
[00:13:11] the manager's
[00:13:11] getting you.
[00:13:12] We are still
[00:13:13] creating two
[00:13:14] or three big
[00:13:14] chances in a
[00:13:15] game,
[00:13:15] not against
[00:13:17] 20,
[00:13:18] not Tottenham,
[00:13:19] but we mostly
[00:13:20] create big
[00:13:20] chances.
[00:13:20] We just don't
[00:13:21] finish them.
[00:13:22] Sometimes when
[00:13:23] you feel like
[00:13:23] everyone is so
[00:13:24] negative,
[00:13:24] like you
[00:13:24] said,
[00:13:26] if I can do
[00:13:29] this,
[00:13:30] what's stopping
[00:13:30] you from coming
[00:13:31] out and playing
[00:13:31] for the club?
[00:13:32] He said pretty
[00:13:32] much that when
[00:13:33] it's crying,
[00:13:34] when the rain
[00:13:34] is falling and
[00:13:35] feel like my
[00:13:36] tears are being
[00:13:37] hidden,
[00:13:37] I can still
[00:13:37] play better
[00:13:38] football because
[00:13:38] I'm playing for
[00:13:39] United,
[00:13:39] right?
[00:13:40] Basically saying
[00:13:41] all of us
[00:13:41] other players
[00:13:42] suck.
[00:13:44] Okay,
[00:13:45] grew up to
[00:13:45] like Garnachuk,
[00:13:46] Kobe Mahind was
[00:13:46] a little harsh,
[00:13:47] right?
[00:13:47] But everybody
[00:13:47] else,
[00:13:48] Ericsson said
[00:13:49] after FC 20,
[00:13:50] that bro,
[00:13:51] the team who
[00:13:51] came from
[00:13:52] somewhere else
[00:13:52] wants to come
[00:13:53] and win more
[00:13:53] than we do.
[00:13:54] So there
[00:13:54] is also
[00:13:55] discord that
[00:13:55] players are not
[00:13:56] doing the
[00:13:57] bit but I
[00:13:58] agree with
[00:13:59] Moketro,
[00:13:59] finishing
[00:13:59] after a
[00:14:00] point,
[00:14:01] what is he
[00:14:01] going to
[00:14:01] do?
[00:14:02] We hit the
[00:14:02] post yesterday,
[00:14:03] we could have
[00:14:03] had that
[00:14:04] 1-0 with
[00:14:05] Bruno,
[00:14:07] Rashford again,
[00:14:08] Anthony,
[00:14:09] they're just
[00:14:09] blindly cutting in
[00:14:10] and shooting
[00:14:10] any or haphazard,
[00:14:11] right?
[00:14:12] When number
[00:14:12] nine,
[00:14:13] Hoyland is
[00:14:13] finally back,
[00:14:14] everyone like
[00:14:14] Zerg,
[00:14:15] he's link up,
[00:14:15] Zerg,
[00:14:16] he's link up,
[00:14:16] Zerg,
[00:14:16] Hoyland has come
[00:14:17] back,
[00:14:18] give him the
[00:14:18] ball,
[00:14:19] get five
[00:14:19] touches.
[00:14:20] And Hoyland's
[00:14:21] then coming to
[00:14:22] Bruno,
[00:14:22] give me the
[00:14:23] ball,
[00:14:23] Bruno Fernandes,
[00:14:24] goes right wing,
[00:14:26] he's away from
[00:14:27] Hoyland,
[00:14:29] what am I doing
[00:14:30] here?
[00:14:31] It's crazy.
[00:14:32] I mean,
[00:14:33] the players
[00:14:37] are definitely
[00:14:38] culpable,
[00:14:38] like you know,
[00:14:39] Ten Hag can't
[00:14:39] come and kick
[00:14:40] the ball into
[00:14:41] the goal for
[00:14:41] them.
[00:14:43] Tactics only
[00:14:44] play a role to
[00:14:45] a certain extent,
[00:14:46] I mean of course
[00:14:46] they shape the
[00:14:47] game but if you
[00:14:48] don't win your
[00:14:49] duels, if you
[00:14:50] don't beat your
[00:14:51] man, if you
[00:14:51] don't track back,
[00:14:52] like those one-on-one
[00:14:53] battles make the
[00:14:54] game.
[00:14:55] If you don't win
[00:14:56] the second balls
[00:14:57] then eventually
[00:14:58] you're going to
[00:14:58] lose the midfield
[00:14:59] battles and
[00:14:59] eventually the
[00:15:00] run past you
[00:15:01] and you know,
[00:15:01] get some shots
[00:15:02] on your goal
[00:15:03] and that's
[00:15:04] what's been
[00:15:04] happening.
[00:15:05] More often than
[00:15:06] not all of our
[00:15:07] players they
[00:15:08] can't beat their
[00:15:09] immediate man.
[00:15:10] Rashford can
[00:15:11] beat one man
[00:15:11] then he's just
[00:15:12] headed nowhere
[00:15:13] like into the
[00:15:13] sand and
[00:15:15] Anthony
[00:15:16] was still doing
[00:15:18] good.
[00:15:19] At least
[00:15:20] Ganacho has
[00:15:20] some third
[00:15:22] like final third
[00:15:23] production,
[00:15:23] some productivity
[00:15:24] but rest of
[00:15:25] them they're just
[00:15:26] so bad like
[00:15:27] I don't know
[00:15:27] what is it even?
[00:15:29] Imagine guys
[00:15:30] seven games in
[00:15:31] seven Premier League
[00:15:32] matches in the
[00:15:33] rest let's say
[00:15:33] ten matches into
[00:15:34] the season right
[00:15:35] Europe and
[00:15:35] whatever link up.
[00:15:38] We are all the
[00:15:39] fans are like
[00:15:39] Zach,
[00:15:40] Eric,
[00:15:40] Ten Hag.
[00:15:41] Imagine seven
[00:15:42] eight games in
[00:15:42] the players have
[00:15:43] given up like
[00:15:44] it's not what
[00:15:45] demotivation you
[00:15:45] have in life that
[00:15:46] you're giving up
[00:15:47] seven eight games
[00:15:47] in.
[00:15:54] Ten Hag can't
[00:15:58] physically come
[00:15:58] onto the pitch
[00:15:59] himself and
[00:15:59] kick the ball.
[00:16:00] He can't
[00:16:00] personally put the
[00:16:01] ball in the
[00:16:02] back of the
[00:16:02] net but with
[00:16:04] the way things
[00:16:05] are going,
[00:16:07] does the buck
[00:16:08] stop with him
[00:16:09] as the manager
[00:16:09] because it
[00:16:10] ideally should
[00:16:11] and as the
[00:16:12] manager of an
[00:16:13] elite level
[00:16:13] football team,
[00:16:14] he should be
[00:16:16] able to
[00:16:16] motivate his
[00:16:17] players when
[00:16:18] they are not
[00:16:18] as motivated
[00:16:19] and oftentimes
[00:16:21] we think that
[00:16:22] stacking the
[00:16:23] manager and
[00:16:23] getting somebody
[00:16:24] else in his
[00:16:24] place is the
[00:16:26] right thing to
[00:16:26] do or is the
[00:16:27] right way to
[00:16:27] go about it.
[00:16:28] Personally,
[00:16:29] I don't think
[00:16:29] so and I
[00:16:31] feel like that
[00:16:31] because it
[00:16:32] will be the
[00:16:32] same cycle
[00:16:33] all over again.
[00:16:36] It is absolutely
[00:16:37] and even more
[00:16:39] so now because
[00:16:39] Rude Van
[00:16:40] may be given
[00:16:41] interim charge,
[00:16:42] it is Ole
[00:16:43] all over again.
[00:16:44] Again, this
[00:16:44] man has
[00:16:45] managed in
[00:16:46] the NWC but
[00:16:47] he is not
[00:16:48] managed at a
[00:16:49] level that
[00:16:50] justifies his
[00:16:51] jump up from
[00:16:52] that league to
[00:16:54] the managerial
[00:16:54] position at
[00:16:55] Man United.
[00:16:56] Of course,
[00:16:56] because he is
[00:16:57] a club legend
[00:16:57] there is going
[00:16:58] to be a lot
[00:16:58] of good PR
[00:16:58] about it.
[00:16:59] He is going
[00:17:00] to have a
[00:17:00] certain way
[00:17:01] of doing things.
[00:17:01] Everybody will
[00:17:02] say that
[00:17:02] cliche line,
[00:17:03] oh but he
[00:17:04] knows the
[00:17:04] club and he
[00:17:05] is going to
[00:17:06] get a few
[00:17:06] good results
[00:17:07] because that is
[00:17:07] what happens
[00:17:08] for any club
[00:17:08] with a new
[00:17:09] manager bounce.
[00:17:09] Sean Dyche
[00:17:10] managed that
[00:17:10] with a
[00:17:10] fucking
[00:17:11] Everton
[00:17:11] side.
[00:17:12] So why
[00:17:12] won't
[00:17:13] Manish
[00:17:13] Lutroy
[00:17:14] duet with
[00:17:14] United?
[00:17:15] But eventually
[00:17:16] that golden
[00:17:17] period will
[00:17:18] die out.
[00:17:19] Us fans as
[00:17:20] toxic as
[00:17:21] we are will
[00:17:22] start calling
[00:17:23] him Gali's
[00:17:23] and ask for
[00:17:25] his head and
[00:17:26] we will say
[00:17:27] unnecessary
[00:17:27] shit like get
[00:17:29] Mourinho back,
[00:17:29] get Ole back,
[00:17:30] get Alex
[00:17:31] Ferguson back.
[00:17:32] By then,
[00:17:33] you know,
[00:17:34] I hope that
[00:17:36] doesn't happen
[00:17:36] but if the old
[00:17:37] man is dead or
[00:17:38] something,
[00:17:38] there will be
[00:17:39] fans will be
[00:17:40] like,
[00:17:40] no,
[00:17:40] from death
[00:17:42] bring him
[00:17:42] back to
[00:17:43] life and
[00:17:43] put him in
[00:17:44] the dugout.
[00:17:45] But I feel
[00:17:46] like if at
[00:17:47] this point,
[00:17:48] and going to
[00:17:49] what you said
[00:17:50] Mokesh,
[00:17:50] about the
[00:17:51] clarity that
[00:17:51] is needed,
[00:17:52] if at this
[00:17:52] point,
[00:17:53] Ninos come
[00:17:53] out and
[00:17:53] say,
[00:17:54] no,
[00:17:55] we still
[00:17:55] believe
[00:17:56] Ten Hag is
[00:17:57] the right man
[00:17:57] for the job.
[00:17:58] No matter
[00:17:59] what happens
[00:18:00] this season,
[00:18:01] he is staying
[00:18:02] in his job.
[00:18:04] We trust him
[00:18:05] to turn this
[00:18:05] around.
[00:18:06] We trust him
[00:18:07] to take this
[00:18:08] club forward
[00:18:08] and align with
[00:18:09] the vision
[00:18:10] that we have
[00:18:10] as owners.
[00:18:12] And regardless
[00:18:13] of results,
[00:18:13] we are going
[00:18:14] to stick with
[00:18:15] him.
[00:18:15] If they give
[00:18:16] him that show
[00:18:16] of support,
[00:18:17] which Ferguson
[00:18:18] had by the
[00:18:18] way,
[00:18:19] and he had
[00:18:19] that of course
[00:18:20] because he
[00:18:20] had massive
[00:18:21] credit in the
[00:18:21] bag,
[00:18:22] he didn't
[00:18:22] need a board
[00:18:23] to come out
[00:18:24] and defend him
[00:18:25] on the off chance
[00:18:26] that things went
[00:18:27] badly and things
[00:18:27] did go badly
[00:18:28] under Ferguson
[00:18:29] as well.
[00:18:29] Like we had
[00:18:29] some horrible
[00:18:30] results under
[00:18:31] him as well.
[00:18:32] But I feel
[00:18:33] like because
[00:18:34] we are in a
[00:18:34] position that
[00:18:35] we are in
[00:18:36] right now,
[00:18:36] if the board
[00:18:36] does that,
[00:18:37] if they publicly
[00:18:38] show support
[00:18:38] to Ten Hag,
[00:18:40] I feel the
[00:18:41] players who
[00:18:42] are so
[00:18:43] called trying
[00:18:44] to get him
[00:18:45] sacked or
[00:18:45] not willing to
[00:18:47] play for him
[00:18:47] or whatever
[00:18:48] it is,
[00:18:49] will fall in
[00:18:50] line.
[00:18:50] Because we've
[00:18:52] spoken about
[00:18:52] this player
[00:18:53] power at
[00:18:53] Man United.
[00:18:54] Players think
[00:18:54] that they are
[00:18:55] going to outlive
[00:18:55] the manager
[00:18:56] because managers
[00:18:57] will get sacked
[00:18:57] but players
[00:18:58] will have longer
[00:18:58] contractions
[00:18:59] in their
[00:18:59] state.
[00:19:01] That's one
[00:19:01] way to kill
[00:19:02] it.
[00:19:02] What do
[00:19:02] you guys
[00:19:02] think?
[00:19:03] I 100%
[00:19:04] agree with
[00:19:05] this.
[00:19:05] Like, you
[00:19:07] know, if you
[00:19:08] talk about
[00:19:09] Sir Alex
[00:19:09] Ferguson's
[00:19:10] reign, he
[00:19:11] was very
[00:19:11] close to
[00:19:12] the sack.
[00:19:13] United weren't
[00:19:13] performing very
[00:19:14] well in the
[00:19:14] start and you
[00:19:16] know what
[00:19:16] saved him was
[00:19:17] us winning
[00:19:17] the FA Cup
[00:19:18] in 1990 or
[00:19:19] 1991.
[00:19:20] That saved
[00:19:21] his tenure at
[00:19:22] United.
[00:19:23] So, I mean,
[00:19:24] if you just
[00:19:24] put things into
[00:19:25] the same
[00:19:26] context,
[00:19:27] Ten Hag has
[00:19:27] won the
[00:19:27] EFL and
[00:19:28] the FA Cup.
[00:19:29] So, I mean,
[00:19:30] I think it
[00:19:30] just makes a
[00:19:31] little bit
[00:19:31] sense to
[00:19:32] just let
[00:19:32] the man
[00:19:32] have this
[00:19:33] season and
[00:19:33] more than
[00:19:34] anything,
[00:19:34] the message
[00:19:35] that the
[00:19:36] players get
[00:19:37] is more
[00:19:38] important that
[00:19:38] you know,
[00:19:39] they have to
[00:19:40] stick it out
[00:19:40] with him.
[00:19:41] If they don't
[00:19:41] turn up,
[00:19:42] then some
[00:19:42] other player
[00:19:43] will be
[00:19:44] replaced because
[00:19:44] the manager is
[00:19:45] not going
[00:19:45] anywhere.
[00:19:46] Also, guys,
[00:19:47] that is more
[00:19:47] important because
[00:19:48] this cycle is
[00:19:48] just going to
[00:19:49] keep repeating.
[00:19:50] Yeah.
[00:19:50] No, also,
[00:19:51] you guys see
[00:19:52] this, right?
[00:19:52] You guys have
[00:19:53] reached Rude
[00:19:54] Van Nistelrooy.
[00:19:55] That means
[00:19:56] there are only
[00:19:57] a few more
[00:19:57] ex-players left
[00:19:58] before you reach
[00:19:59] Marcus Rashford or
[00:20:00] something.
[00:20:01] You know,
[00:20:02] the ex-player
[00:20:03] who says,
[00:20:05] I know the
[00:20:05] club.
[00:20:06] You guys know
[00:20:07] the horizon is
[00:20:08] ending, right?
[00:20:08] We're 10 years
[00:20:09] away.
[00:20:09] We're close to
[00:20:11] Aguero moment
[00:20:12] and also.
[00:20:13] There's going
[00:20:13] to be Rooney
[00:20:14] after this.
[00:20:14] I think a better
[00:20:15] pick would be
[00:20:15] Ashley Young,
[00:20:17] man.
[00:20:17] Ashley Young
[00:20:17] in the United
[00:20:18] tournament.
[00:20:19] There you go.
[00:20:21] So, this is
[00:20:21] the order,
[00:20:22] right?
[00:20:22] Rude Van Nistelrooy,
[00:20:23] Rooney,
[00:20:24] Ashley Young,
[00:20:25] and then we hit
[00:20:26] Anthony Martial.
[00:20:27] And then we're
[00:20:28] good.
[00:20:28] United done.
[00:20:29] You're playing
[00:20:30] Everton at home.
[00:20:30] That's right.
[00:20:30] The rope is
[00:20:31] ending.
[00:20:32] You're playing
[00:20:32] Everton at home.
[00:20:33] Imagine Ashley Young
[00:20:33] walks off the pitch,
[00:20:34] just pushes
[00:20:35] it.
[00:20:35] Just takes the
[00:20:39] sound effect
[00:20:40] in the background
[00:20:41] coming.
[00:20:42] Dude, I would
[00:20:44] fucking love it.
[00:20:45] All right.
[00:20:45] I would absolutely
[00:20:46] love it if that
[00:20:48] was the case.
[00:20:49] You know,
[00:20:49] get the fucking
[00:20:52] Rashford player
[00:20:53] manager or
[00:20:54] something like
[00:20:54] that.
[00:20:56] Phil Jones,
[00:20:57] even.
[00:20:57] It's his
[00:20:57] testimonial also.
[00:20:58] Phil Jones.
[00:21:01] Yeah, exactly.
[00:21:02] Exactly.
[00:21:03] Give that man
[00:21:04] a contract.
[00:21:04] And I just
[00:21:06] want to say
[00:21:06] to every
[00:21:07] Man United
[00:21:07] fan right now,
[00:21:08] all of these
[00:21:09] options are
[00:21:10] better than
[00:21:10] fucking Thomas
[00:21:11] Tuchel.
[00:21:12] All right?
[00:21:12] None of you
[00:21:13] know what
[00:21:14] the fuck
[00:21:15] you're talking
[00:21:15] about when
[00:21:16] you say,
[00:21:16] oh, Thomas
[00:21:17] Tuchel should
[00:21:17] be given the
[00:21:18] Man United
[00:21:19] job.
[00:21:19] You mean
[00:21:20] how short-sighted
[00:21:22] behavior.
[00:21:23] And fair enough,
[00:21:25] considering the
[00:21:25] way we have
[00:21:26] played, I think
[00:21:27] a little,
[00:21:27] little shot
[00:21:28] of dopamine
[00:21:28] is absolutely
[00:21:30] needed.
[00:21:30] But in the
[00:21:32] words of Arsenal
[00:21:33] fans regarding
[00:21:34] Mikel Arteta,
[00:21:35] trust the
[00:21:35] process.
[00:21:36] You know,
[00:21:36] it's like those
[00:21:37] night outs where
[00:21:38] your boy has
[00:21:38] not seen some
[00:21:39] action for a
[00:21:40] long time.
[00:21:42] He's like,
[00:21:42] no, you don't
[00:21:43] understand.
[00:21:44] And he's like,
[00:21:44] we understand.
[00:21:45] You don't want
[00:21:45] this.
[00:21:46] He will
[00:21:46] record this
[00:21:46] tomorrow.
[00:21:49] That is actually
[00:21:50] another reason
[00:21:50] why I am in
[00:21:52] favor of Ten
[00:21:53] Hark to just
[00:21:53] stay at the
[00:21:54] club because I
[00:21:55] don't see any
[00:21:56] proper replacement.
[00:21:57] There's been
[00:21:57] talks about
[00:21:58] Drew Van
[00:21:58] Estudor.
[00:21:59] There's been
[00:21:59] talks about
[00:21:59] even Michael
[00:22:00] Carrick taking
[00:22:01] over as a
[00:22:01] caretaker or
[00:22:02] whatever.
[00:22:02] And I don't
[00:22:04] see any promise
[00:22:05] in it.
[00:22:05] I don't see any
[00:22:06] proper long-term
[00:22:07] vision.
[00:22:07] It's just a
[00:22:07] stopgap until
[00:22:08] they figure out
[00:22:09] what their next
[00:22:10] long-term vision
[00:22:11] looks like.
[00:22:11] Exactly.
[00:22:12] And by the
[00:22:13] time they figure
[00:22:14] out what their
[00:22:14] next long-term
[00:22:15] vision is,
[00:22:15] football will
[00:22:16] change because
[00:22:17] football as a
[00:22:18] game, as a
[00:22:19] sport also changes
[00:22:20] so fast.
[00:22:20] Managerial
[00:22:21] philosophies,
[00:22:22] principles,
[00:22:22] all of that
[00:22:23] tactics change
[00:22:24] so fast that
[00:22:25] it is very
[00:22:26] hard to see
[00:22:28] what the
[00:22:28] next philosophy
[00:22:30] is going
[00:22:30] to be like
[00:22:31] or the
[00:22:32] person who's
[00:22:32] going to be
[00:22:32] in charge
[00:22:33] of that
[00:22:33] philosophy
[00:22:33] is going
[00:22:34] to be like.
[00:22:35] Guys,
[00:22:35] I think
[00:22:36] sorry,
[00:22:39] even last
[00:22:40] year or
[00:22:41] last year
[00:22:41] whenever we
[00:22:42] got Casemiro,
[00:22:43] we in
[00:22:44] September,
[00:22:44] in August,
[00:22:45] we got
[00:22:45] beat 4-0
[00:22:47] by Brentford
[00:22:48] and even
[00:22:49] September was
[00:22:50] not very
[00:22:50] good.
[00:22:51] But then
[00:22:51] by the time
[00:22:52] March,
[00:22:52] April came
[00:22:53] we were
[00:22:54] looking a
[00:22:54] little bit
[00:22:54] better.
[00:22:55] February
[00:22:55] was a
[00:22:55] really good
[00:22:56] month
[00:22:56] for us.
[00:22:56] I still
[00:22:58] think that
[00:22:58] Ten Hag
[00:22:59] can turn
[00:22:59] things around
[00:23:00] this season.
[00:23:01] It's not
[00:23:01] the end of
[00:23:02] the world
[00:23:02] where we
[00:23:02] are right
[00:23:03] now.
[00:23:04] And the
[00:23:04] players are
[00:23:05] underperforming.
[00:23:06] But I
[00:23:07] think Ten Hag
[00:23:08] should just
[00:23:09] stay.
[00:23:09] And just
[00:23:09] another thing
[00:23:10] about Ten Hag
[00:23:10] is that if
[00:23:11] you take
[00:23:12] away this
[00:23:12] United
[00:23:13] stint,
[00:23:14] just take
[00:23:15] it back
[00:23:15] to 2022,
[00:23:17] 2023,
[00:23:17] whenever he
[00:23:17] came in,
[00:23:18] other clubs
[00:23:19] were looking
[00:23:20] at Ten Hag
[00:23:20] as their
[00:23:21] potential
[00:23:22] successor.
[00:23:23] Even Liverpool
[00:23:24] were looking
[00:23:24] at Ten Hag
[00:23:25] for being
[00:23:26] a Klopp
[00:23:27] successor
[00:23:27] and even
[00:23:28] there were
[00:23:29] talks about
[00:23:29] Ten Hag
[00:23:30] style replicating
[00:23:31] Guardiola's
[00:23:32] a little bit.
[00:23:33] That if
[00:23:33] Guardiola does
[00:23:34] decide to
[00:23:34] leave,
[00:23:35] they might
[00:23:35] be looking
[00:23:35] at Ten Hag.
[00:23:36] So at
[00:23:37] least in
[00:23:37] his Ajax
[00:23:38] he was
[00:23:38] looked upon
[00:23:39] as a
[00:23:40] major
[00:23:40] tactician
[00:23:41] who knows
[00:23:41] the ins
[00:23:41] and outs
[00:23:42] of the
[00:23:42] game.
[00:23:43] So I
[00:23:44] don't think
[00:23:44] he's just
[00:23:44] lost all
[00:23:45] of that.
[00:23:46] I mean
[00:23:46] Liverpool
[00:23:46] ended up
[00:23:47] getting another
[00:23:47] ball
[00:23:48] Dutchman
[00:23:51] who's
[00:23:51] performing
[00:23:52] much better
[00:23:52] than the
[00:23:53] original.
[00:23:53] But Mookie,
[00:23:54] there's three
[00:23:55] United fans
[00:23:56] here who
[00:23:56] are very
[00:23:57] very
[00:23:59] aggressively
[00:23:59] for Ten Hag
[00:24:00] to stay
[00:24:01] in.
[00:24:01] As somebody
[00:24:02] who's looking
[00:24:03] at this
[00:24:03] issue from
[00:24:04] the outside
[00:24:05] in,
[00:24:05] especially
[00:24:06] from a
[00:24:06] Liverpool
[00:24:07] point of
[00:24:07] view,
[00:24:07] which is
[00:24:07] a very
[00:24:08] very
[00:24:10] you're
[00:24:10] experiencing
[00:24:11] the highest
[00:24:11] levels of
[00:24:12] Schadenfreude
[00:24:12] right now.
[00:24:13] I'm very
[00:24:14] sure.
[00:24:15] With a big
[00:24:15] fucking
[00:24:16] smile on
[00:24:16] your face.
[00:24:19] Does it
[00:24:19] seem like
[00:24:20] the three of
[00:24:21] us are
[00:24:21] delusional
[00:24:21] right now
[00:24:22] or are
[00:24:22] we making
[00:24:22] sense?
[00:24:23] Because I
[00:24:23] feel like
[00:24:23] we are
[00:24:24] caught in
[00:24:25] our own
[00:24:25] echo
[00:24:25] chambers
[00:24:26] and we
[00:24:28] don't know
[00:24:28] what is
[00:24:29] reality
[00:24:29] anymore as
[00:24:30] United fans.
[00:24:31] Ten Hagin,
[00:24:32] baby!
[00:24:33] No, but
[00:24:34] I do think
[00:24:35] realistically
[00:24:36] what,
[00:24:37] I think
[00:24:37] you have to
[00:24:38] be Ten Hagin
[00:24:39] because there's
[00:24:40] nobody else.
[00:24:42] Yeah.
[00:24:43] And right
[00:24:43] now,
[00:24:44] United is
[00:24:44] not,
[00:24:45] like when
[00:24:46] Ten Hagin
[00:24:46] took it,
[00:24:47] there's a
[00:24:48] prospect of
[00:24:48] oh,
[00:24:48] let's take
[00:24:49] a sinking
[00:24:50] great club
[00:24:51] and make
[00:24:51] it,
[00:24:51] put it,
[00:24:52] restore it
[00:24:53] back to
[00:24:53] its perch.
[00:24:54] Right?
[00:24:54] And the
[00:24:55] thing is,
[00:24:55] if you
[00:24:55] sack Ten Hag
[00:24:56] E2 right
[00:24:57] now,
[00:24:57] there's not
[00:24:58] even that
[00:24:58] honor.
[00:24:58] Then it's
[00:24:59] a proper
[00:24:59] sink,
[00:24:59] it's a
[00:25:00] sunk
[00:25:00] club.
[00:25:01] It'll be
[00:25:02] about,
[00:25:02] what,
[00:25:03] 12 years
[00:25:03] then?
[00:25:04] I think
[00:25:04] 12,
[00:25:04] 13
[00:25:04] years.
[00:25:05] Yeah.
[00:25:06] Right?
[00:25:07] So,
[00:25:07] so think
[00:25:08] about this
[00:25:09] is,
[00:25:10] think this
[00:25:10] is Liverpool
[00:25:11] 2002,
[00:25:12] 2003.
[00:25:13] Right?
[00:25:13] This is
[00:25:14] where you
[00:25:14] guys roughly
[00:25:14] are.
[00:25:15] Where you
[00:25:16] adjust,
[00:25:16] Gerard Hulia,
[00:25:17] Rafa Barretes,
[00:25:18] that,
[00:25:18] that's,
[00:25:18] you'll be
[00:25:19] roughly in
[00:25:19] that era.
[00:25:20] Right?
[00:25:21] Which means
[00:25:21] you had to,
[00:25:23] like,
[00:25:23] that means by
[00:25:24] then you are
[00:25:25] going to have
[00:25:25] to start
[00:25:25] looking for
[00:25:26] guys who
[00:25:27] are way,
[00:25:27] not top
[00:25:28] class managers,
[00:25:29] guys who
[00:25:30] are low in
[00:25:31] the pecking
[00:25:31] order,
[00:25:32] who are
[00:25:32] overperforming
[00:25:32] and get them
[00:25:33] to manage
[00:25:35] United.
[00:25:36] Right now,
[00:25:37] I think Ten Hag
[00:25:38] is the last
[00:25:38] top tier talent
[00:25:40] that comes to
[00:25:40] United.
[00:25:41] Yeah.
[00:25:42] Does that make
[00:25:42] sense?
[00:25:42] Are we
[00:25:43] considering Ten Hag
[00:25:44] a top tier talent?
[00:25:45] As in the way
[00:25:46] like Ronak was
[00:25:47] saying that he
[00:25:48] was considered
[00:25:48] to be the
[00:25:49] next big manager.
[00:25:50] Right.
[00:25:51] After Ten Hag,
[00:25:52] I don't think
[00:25:52] there's even
[00:25:53] one next big
[00:25:54] manager who's
[00:25:54] thinking let's
[00:25:55] go to United.
[00:25:56] They're probably
[00:25:56] thinking let's
[00:25:56] go to City.
[00:25:57] They're thinking
[00:25:57] let's go to
[00:25:58] Newcastle even
[00:25:59] in case the
[00:26:00] money checks out
[00:26:00] etc.
[00:26:02] Ten Hag,
[00:26:03] I feel like,
[00:26:03] is your last
[00:26:04] manager who
[00:26:04] thought United
[00:26:05] was a respectable
[00:26:06] job.
[00:26:06] Yeah.
[00:26:07] So you feel
[00:26:08] better,
[00:26:09] we better work
[00:26:09] out with this
[00:26:10] guy because
[00:26:11] after this
[00:26:11] guy,
[00:26:12] you're gonna
[00:26:12] have to be
[00:26:12] like,
[00:26:13] hey,
[00:26:13] what's
[00:26:13] happening in
[00:26:14] Bodo Glint?
[00:26:17] You're gonna
[00:26:18] have to look
[00:26:18] for fucking
[00:26:18] like how
[00:26:19] Liverpool had
[00:26:20] to go
[00:26:20] fucking look
[00:26:21] for the guy
[00:26:21] who was doing
[00:26:22] shit with
[00:26:22] Valencia and
[00:26:23] then,
[00:26:23] you know,
[00:26:24] find Jose
[00:26:25] when he was
[00:26:26] with Porto.
[00:26:26] Like,
[00:26:26] you know,
[00:26:27] you have to
[00:26:27] really look
[00:26:27] in the bottom,
[00:26:28] like not bottom
[00:26:29] of the barrel,
[00:26:30] but the barrels
[00:26:31] at the bottom
[00:26:31] to be like,
[00:26:32] who's that?
[00:26:32] So that guy
[00:26:33] still thinks
[00:26:33] it's a great
[00:26:34] job.
[00:26:34] Yeah.
[00:26:35] Dan Hugg is
[00:26:35] the last
[00:26:36] top tier
[00:26:37] talent you
[00:26:38] get.
[00:26:38] So I feel
[00:26:39] like before
[00:26:39] you fire
[00:26:40] him,
[00:26:41] it is true,
[00:26:41] you should be
[00:26:42] really sure
[00:26:43] because after
[00:26:44] this it's
[00:26:44] done,
[00:26:44] dude,
[00:26:44] United are
[00:26:46] now not a
[00:26:47] premier destination
[00:26:48] anymore.
[00:26:48] it's done.
[00:26:49] There's an
[00:26:49] entire generation
[00:26:50] of fans that
[00:26:51] have now like
[00:26:51] that are
[00:26:52] city fans,
[00:26:53] right?
[00:26:53] They are just
[00:26:54] city fans and
[00:26:55] the Liverpool
[00:26:55] fans and some
[00:26:56] have gone to
[00:26:56] Chelsea,
[00:26:57] but that
[00:26:58] entire wave
[00:26:58] that would
[00:26:59] have been
[00:26:59] United fans
[00:26:59] is now gone,
[00:27:01] right?
[00:27:01] So like the
[00:27:02] United fans
[00:27:03] are like,
[00:27:03] I don't know
[00:27:04] if there are
[00:27:05] any young
[00:27:05] United fans
[00:27:06] anymore.
[00:27:06] I'm saying
[00:27:07] below 25.
[00:27:07] It's true.
[00:27:08] I think the
[00:27:09] only young
[00:27:10] United fans
[00:27:11] are
[00:27:12] their fathers.
[00:27:16] Exactly.
[00:27:17] Animesh is a
[00:27:17] new father,
[00:27:18] so I'm sure
[00:27:18] that Animesh's
[00:27:19] son is going
[00:27:20] to be a
[00:27:20] United fan,
[00:27:21] not out of
[00:27:22] love,
[00:27:22] but out of
[00:27:23] choice.
[00:27:23] Let's say
[00:27:23] this,
[00:27:24] between the
[00:27:24] ages of
[00:27:24] 5 and
[00:27:25] 25,
[00:27:25] there are
[00:27:26] no fans
[00:27:27] of United.
[00:27:29] That means
[00:27:30] it's not an
[00:27:30] appealing job
[00:27:31] to anybody
[00:27:32] anymore.
[00:27:33] So I feel
[00:27:33] like United,
[00:27:34] I mean,
[00:27:35] Ten Hag in
[00:27:35] because like
[00:27:36] this is your
[00:27:37] last top-tier
[00:27:38] manager.
[00:27:38] After this,
[00:27:39] like I
[00:27:39] said,
[00:27:40] Bodog
[00:27:40] Blint,
[00:27:43] Transborn
[00:27:43] Spore,
[00:27:44] you know
[00:27:44] that's what
[00:27:44] I'm looking
[00:27:45] for.
[00:27:47] Oh God.
[00:27:49] Make United
[00:27:50] great again.
[00:27:51] Make United
[00:27:52] great again,
[00:27:53] dude.
[00:27:53] Like it is
[00:27:54] weird that
[00:27:54] nobody wants
[00:27:56] to put
[00:27:57] Phil Neville's
[00:27:57] hat in the
[00:27:58] ring for
[00:27:58] this job.
[00:27:59] Just checking.
[00:27:59] No?
[00:28:00] Cool.
[00:28:00] Okay.
[00:28:01] But speaking
[00:28:02] of the Neville's,
[00:28:04] it has been
[00:28:05] reported that
[00:28:05] Jim Ratcliffe
[00:28:06] and the other
[00:28:07] leadership group
[00:28:08] of Ineos are
[00:28:10] having discussions
[00:28:11] about the future
[00:28:12] of Ten Hag over
[00:28:14] this international
[00:28:15] break.
[00:28:15] They had one of
[00:28:16] their first meetings
[00:28:17] regarding this
[00:28:17] topic a few
[00:28:19] days ago and
[00:28:19] Gary Neville was
[00:28:20] spotted going into
[00:28:22] Old Trafford.
[00:28:22] So it is
[00:28:23] suggesting that he
[00:28:23] was a part of
[00:28:24] these meetings with
[00:28:26] the leadership team
[00:28:27] at Man United.
[00:28:29] does he really
[00:28:30] need to be
[00:28:31] included?
[00:28:32] I mean, I know
[00:28:32] he's a long
[00:28:33] time servant of
[00:28:33] the club.
[00:28:34] He's a club
[00:28:34] legend and
[00:28:35] honestly, I
[00:28:36] love the guy.
[00:28:37] He's been a
[00:28:37] fantastic servant
[00:28:38] for the club
[00:28:39] and he is a
[00:28:40] good pundit on
[00:28:41] Sky Sports as
[00:28:42] well.
[00:28:44] But it
[00:28:45] doesn't seem
[00:28:45] like you're
[00:28:46] giving Gary Neville
[00:28:46] a little too
[00:28:47] much importance.
[00:28:48] Yeah.
[00:28:49] He's not
[00:28:49] David Beckham.
[00:28:50] Why doesn't
[00:28:50] anyone go get
[00:28:51] him?
[00:28:52] David Beckham
[00:28:53] is too far
[00:28:54] removed.
[00:28:54] He's like,
[00:28:55] bro, I'm
[00:28:55] going to go.
[00:28:56] David Beckham
[00:28:57] is very, very
[00:28:58] mature in the
[00:28:58] sense that
[00:28:59] after graduating
[00:29:00] college, he
[00:29:01] never went back
[00:29:03] Whereas,
[00:29:07] Gary Neville is
[00:29:08] the guy who
[00:29:08] goes for every
[00:29:09] alum I meet.
[00:29:10] He goes and
[00:29:11] teaches in the
[00:29:12] college again.
[00:29:13] You know,
[00:29:14] he's in the
[00:29:16] Rotary committee.
[00:29:17] He's in touch
[00:29:18] with all the
[00:29:18] teachers.
[00:29:19] He's that guy.
[00:29:20] He's fucking
[00:29:20] Aamir Khan
[00:29:22] from
[00:29:22] Rami Bhai
[00:29:23] Basanti.
[00:29:23] He doesn't
[00:29:24] leave college.
[00:29:27] I have
[00:29:28] something
[00:29:29] controversial to
[00:29:29] say about
[00:29:30] ex-United players.
[00:29:31] Which is?
[00:29:32] I don't think
[00:29:33] any of them,
[00:29:34] there's not
[00:29:34] one, you
[00:29:35] know, in
[00:29:35] that coterie
[00:29:36] of like 12,
[00:29:36] 13 players
[00:29:37] who are very
[00:29:38] popular on
[00:29:38] doing podcasts
[00:29:39] and all that.
[00:29:39] I don't think
[00:29:40] any of them
[00:29:41] actually want
[00:29:41] United to be
[00:29:42] successful.
[00:29:43] I'm sorry,
[00:29:43] I have this
[00:29:44] theory that
[00:29:45] all of them
[00:29:45] actually want
[00:29:47] United to
[00:29:48] fail because
[00:29:48] that's the
[00:29:50] only way they're
[00:29:50] going to be
[00:29:51] relevant and
[00:29:51] they're going
[00:29:51] to be remembered.
[00:29:53] The longer
[00:29:53] United sucks,
[00:29:54] the longer
[00:29:55] they're going
[00:29:55] to be remembered.
[00:29:56] I don't think
[00:29:56] you can trust
[00:29:57] any of them,
[00:29:58] not one of
[00:29:59] them.
[00:29:59] And I'm
[00:29:59] saying this
[00:29:59] not just as
[00:30:00] a Liverpool
[00:30:01] fan, but I'm
[00:30:01] saying as
[00:30:02] someone, if I
[00:30:03] put myself in
[00:30:04] a United
[00:30:05] person's shoes,
[00:30:06] whether as a
[00:30:07] fan or a
[00:30:07] management committee,
[00:30:09] think about it.
[00:30:10] Do you think
[00:30:10] if United,
[00:30:11] hey, City got
[00:30:13] Haaland and
[00:30:13] they forgot
[00:30:14] Aguero?
[00:30:14] No.
[00:30:15] You think
[00:30:16] anybody will
[00:30:17] remember Neville?
[00:30:19] He will
[00:30:20] barely be a
[00:30:21] pundit, let
[00:30:22] alone a great
[00:30:23] United player
[00:30:24] who gets to
[00:30:24] be on the
[00:30:25] committee of
[00:30:25] decision-making.
[00:30:27] If there's even
[00:30:27] someone mildly
[00:30:29] better than him.
[00:30:29] If I were to
[00:30:32] put on my
[00:30:32] tinfoil hat at
[00:30:33] this point, I
[00:30:34] think that makes
[00:30:35] a lot of sense
[00:30:35] and that brings
[00:30:37] me back to the
[00:30:38] point and the
[00:30:39] problem that I
[00:30:39] have with Gary
[00:30:40] Neville being
[00:30:40] included in a
[00:30:41] discussion like
[00:30:41] this.
[00:30:43] He's an
[00:30:44] ex-player and
[00:30:45] everything, it's
[00:30:45] all great, but
[00:30:46] currently he is
[00:30:47] a pundit for
[00:30:49] Sky Sports.
[00:30:50] His job is
[00:30:51] to give his
[00:30:54] opinion on
[00:30:54] football games
[00:30:55] that are not
[00:30:56] just Man
[00:30:57] United games.
[00:30:57] He will
[00:30:58] obviously have a
[00:30:59] Man United
[00:30:59] colour to what
[00:31:00] he says about
[00:31:02] every game and
[00:31:03] especially when
[00:31:03] United are
[00:31:04] playing, he will
[00:31:04] have more to
[00:31:05] say.
[00:31:05] But that is
[00:31:06] his job.
[00:31:07] His job is not
[00:31:08] to care about
[00:31:09] how the team
[00:31:11] is doing.
[00:31:11] He has not
[00:31:12] invested money
[00:31:13] into Man
[00:31:13] United, best to
[00:31:14] our knowledge.
[00:31:15] He is not
[00:31:16] getting any
[00:31:16] sort of
[00:31:17] paycheck from
[00:31:18] Man United.
[00:31:19] He is not
[00:31:20] associated with
[00:31:20] the club in
[00:31:21] any official
[00:31:22] way.
[00:31:23] And like you
[00:31:24] said, Mukesh,
[00:31:24] neither is
[00:31:25] Rio Ferdinand
[00:31:26] nor is Dimitar
[00:31:27] Berbatov, nor
[00:31:28] is Patri
[00:31:29] Severa or
[00:31:29] any of these
[00:31:30] ex-United players
[00:31:30] like Peter
[00:31:31] Schmeichel, any
[00:31:32] of these ex-United
[00:31:33] players who have
[00:31:34] broadcasting jobs
[00:31:35] right now.
[00:31:37] So why should
[00:31:38] they be included
[00:31:39] in these decisions?
[00:31:41] What are they
[00:31:41] going to do?
[00:31:42] If you want
[00:31:43] the advice of
[00:31:45] anybody who
[00:31:46] has a connection
[00:31:46] with United's past,
[00:31:48] then it has to be
[00:31:48] Sir Alex Ferguson
[00:31:49] and also only
[00:31:51] because he is
[00:31:52] still on the
[00:31:52] board of directors
[00:31:53] of the club.
[00:31:55] He holds an
[00:31:55] official position
[00:31:56] that gives
[00:31:57] him certain
[00:31:58] amount of
[00:31:58] rights within
[00:31:59] the club.
[00:32:01] It's ridiculous
[00:32:02] that Gary Neville
[00:32:03] or anybody from
[00:32:04] that gang is
[00:32:06] even called
[00:32:06] into question.
[00:32:08] I'm like, at
[00:32:09] this point you
[00:32:10] can ask, if you
[00:32:10] take Gary Neville,
[00:32:11] you can take
[00:32:11] any guy.
[00:32:12] It makes no
[00:32:13] sense.
[00:32:14] I think that's a
[00:32:14] way you would
[00:32:15] think.
[00:32:15] And I wouldn't
[00:32:16] trust an ex-player
[00:32:17] of United within
[00:32:19] one 10-kilometer
[00:32:21] radius of the
[00:32:21] club.
[00:32:21] I'm like,
[00:32:23] get the fuck
[00:32:23] out of here.
[00:32:24] We will do
[00:32:24] whatever we
[00:32:25] can.
[00:32:25] But I think,
[00:32:27] how are they
[00:32:27] going to get
[00:32:28] the content?
[00:32:31] Ultimately,
[00:32:32] that's the
[00:32:32] question.
[00:32:33] Ultimately,
[00:32:35] that is the
[00:32:35] question.
[00:32:36] What is the
[00:32:37] They basically
[00:32:38] just want the
[00:32:39] fucking content.
[00:32:40] I mean,
[00:32:40] United is just
[00:32:41] a content
[00:32:42] pig right now.
[00:32:43] Anything we
[00:32:43] do, good or
[00:32:44] bad, there's
[00:32:45] like 10-15,000
[00:32:46] memes about that.
[00:32:47] Thousand
[00:32:47] clickbait
[00:32:48] headlines, bro.
[00:32:49] Just creating the
[00:32:50] run order for
[00:32:50] this.
[00:32:51] I saw so
[00:32:51] many fucking
[00:32:52] clickbaiting
[00:32:52] headlines.
[00:32:53] Yeah, and
[00:32:54] who will give
[00:32:54] a shit about
[00:32:55] Roy Keane's
[00:32:56] stupid anger
[00:32:57] anecdotes if
[00:32:58] there's a guy,
[00:32:59] if United is
[00:33:00] actually winning
[00:33:00] shit, right?
[00:33:02] He's like,
[00:33:03] on 13th
[00:33:04] March 2001,
[00:33:05] I punched a
[00:33:06] guy from
[00:33:06] Middlesbrough in
[00:33:07] the face.
[00:33:08] Don't tell me
[00:33:11] all this nonsense.
[00:33:12] Like, who
[00:33:13] gives a shit
[00:33:13] about it?
[00:33:14] I can't believe
[00:33:14] United fans are
[00:33:15] lapping up that.
[00:33:16] Oh, classic
[00:33:16] Roy.
[00:33:17] I'm like,
[00:33:17] that's classic
[00:33:18] alcoholic.
[00:33:19] That's classic.
[00:33:20] That's
[00:33:20] psychopathic
[00:33:21] behavior.
[00:33:23] Yeah.
[00:33:24] I'm sorry.
[00:33:24] You assume
[00:33:25] Roy Keane made
[00:33:26] up money from
[00:33:26] Ted Lasso,
[00:33:27] right?
[00:33:27] He should get
[00:33:28] some money
[00:33:28] from Ted Lasso.
[00:33:29] He should get
[00:33:30] some money.
[00:33:30] Roy Keane
[00:33:31] to get him
[00:33:32] to the
[00:33:32] but they
[00:33:34] kind of
[00:33:35] skirted the
[00:33:35] issue by
[00:33:36] making him a
[00:33:36] Chelsea player.
[00:33:37] So,
[00:33:38] maybe that is
[00:33:39] how they
[00:33:39] skirted the
[00:33:40] legal issue.
[00:33:40] Right.
[00:33:40] So,
[00:33:41] away from the
[00:33:41] manager,
[00:33:42] we'll just talk
[00:33:42] very quickly
[00:33:43] about on-pitch
[00:33:44] struggles and
[00:33:44] we start off
[00:33:45] with the
[00:33:45] captain,
[00:33:46] Bruno Fernandes.
[00:33:46] He's been
[00:33:47] having a very,
[00:33:47] very bad time
[00:33:48] of late.
[00:33:49] I remember
[00:33:50] early on in
[00:33:51] the season,
[00:33:51] he missed a few
[00:33:51] chances and
[00:33:52] he went on
[00:33:53] social media
[00:33:53] and he said,
[00:33:54] FPL players,
[00:33:56] I'm sorry
[00:33:56] but I will
[00:33:57] give you
[00:33:58] points.
[00:33:58] Don't worry.
[00:34:00] He's getting
[00:34:01] points because
[00:34:01] he's getting
[00:34:02] red card
[00:34:02] under red card.
[00:34:03] Two back-to-back
[00:34:04] red cards.
[00:34:04] Of course,
[00:34:05] the first one
[00:34:05] was overturned
[00:34:06] which is why
[00:34:06] he was available
[00:34:07] but honestly,
[00:34:08] his performance
[00:34:09] made all of us
[00:34:10] United fans think
[00:34:11] he should have
[00:34:12] been suspended
[00:34:12] for these games.
[00:34:14] I agree.
[00:34:15] I think,
[00:34:16] you know,
[00:34:17] him being suspended
[00:34:18] after everything
[00:34:19] that we saw
[00:34:20] with the Spurs
[00:34:20] match,
[00:34:21] him being suspended
[00:34:22] although terribly
[00:34:23] almost,
[00:34:24] see,
[00:34:25] going in one
[00:34:25] mile at
[00:34:26] half-time
[00:34:26] could have
[00:34:26] gone either
[00:34:27] way at home.
[00:34:27] It could have
[00:34:28] worked in my
[00:34:28] favor but that
[00:34:29] red card was
[00:34:30] the killer.
[00:34:31] But then again,
[00:34:32] we've gone through
[00:34:33] that match with
[00:34:33] that,
[00:34:34] right?
[00:34:34] We're like,
[00:34:34] okay,
[00:34:34] now he has no
[00:34:35] option.
[00:34:36] Now Mason
[00:34:37] Mount got injured.
[00:34:38] Kobe Mino
[00:34:38] technically was
[00:34:39] half-fit for
[00:34:39] this match.
[00:34:40] He could have
[00:34:41] done a Zerksi,
[00:34:41] false nine and
[00:34:42] Hoyland.
[00:34:43] We could have
[00:34:43] seen something
[00:34:44] because he had
[00:34:44] no option,
[00:34:45] right?
[00:34:46] Yeah.
[00:34:46] Now it's again
[00:34:46] going to be
[00:34:47] like,
[00:34:48] look,
[00:34:48] he made a point.
[00:34:49] He benched
[00:34:50] his players.
[00:34:50] He benched
[00:34:55] Delight and
[00:34:56] Martinez.
[00:34:57] Yeah.
[00:34:58] Why?
[00:34:59] So look,
[00:35:00] this is the
[00:35:01] argument,
[00:35:01] right?
[00:35:02] Pep never
[00:35:02] benches KDB.
[00:35:04] He hooks KDB
[00:35:04] off when he's
[00:35:05] not fully fit.
[00:35:07] Arteta never
[00:35:07] benches
[00:35:07] Odegaard no
[00:35:08] matter how bad
[00:35:09] he is because
[00:35:09] he's the captain,
[00:35:10] he's that player,
[00:35:11] right?
[00:35:12] Yeah.
[00:35:12] Is Bruno Fernandes
[00:35:14] our quarterback
[00:35:14] on paper?
[00:35:15] Yes.
[00:35:16] But is Bruno
[00:35:17] Fernandes
[00:35:18] unbenchable?
[00:35:19] Never.
[00:35:20] Even in his
[00:35:20] first season
[00:35:21] when under
[00:35:22] Teynak's first
[00:35:23] season,
[00:35:23] not Bruno's,
[00:35:24] the signs were
[00:35:25] there that he's
[00:35:26] struggling with
[00:35:26] Teynak.
[00:35:28] There was always
[00:35:28] a problem.
[00:35:30] So as a
[00:35:31] Tynak,
[00:35:32] why am I
[00:35:32] favoring this
[00:35:33] guy so much
[00:35:33] more?
[00:35:34] I think the
[00:35:34] only reason he's
[00:35:35] not benching
[00:35:35] Tynak is
[00:35:36] because he's
[00:35:37] himself been
[00:35:38] like,
[00:35:38] Ronaldo
[00:35:38] has
[00:35:39] been
[00:35:39] sent
[00:35:40] Sancho
[00:35:41] has
[00:35:41] been
[00:35:41] sent
[00:35:42] Rashford
[00:35:42] has
[00:35:42] been
[00:35:42] I can't
[00:35:43] take one
[00:35:44] more.
[00:35:44] I'm playing
[00:35:44] this guy,
[00:35:45] he's my
[00:35:45] captain.
[00:35:46] I think
[00:35:46] that's the
[00:35:46] only reason
[00:35:47] he's playing
[00:35:47] him.
[00:35:48] I don't
[00:35:48] think he
[00:35:48] wants to
[00:35:48] play him.
[00:35:49] Genuinely,
[00:35:49] I don't
[00:35:49] think
[00:35:49] Tynak wants
[00:35:50] to play him.
[00:35:50] He's just
[00:35:51] moping and
[00:35:51] sulking when
[00:35:52] he's having
[00:35:52] a bad
[00:35:52] time.
[00:35:53] I love
[00:35:53] Bruno.
[00:35:53] He's my
[00:35:54] favorite
[00:35:54] player in
[00:35:55] the last
[00:35:55] 10 years.
[00:35:56] But man,
[00:35:56] it takes
[00:35:57] everyone down
[00:35:57] with him.
[00:35:58] Man,
[00:35:58] I can't
[00:35:59] wait to hear
[00:35:59] you talk
[00:35:59] about the
[00:36:00] players you
[00:36:00] hate.
[00:36:05] You make
[00:36:06] a valid
[00:36:06] point there.
[00:36:07] He is the
[00:36:08] quarterback on
[00:36:09] paper.
[00:36:09] He is one
[00:36:10] of our most
[00:36:10] important players.
[00:36:11] He is the
[00:36:11] focal point or
[00:36:12] at least on
[00:36:13] paper or
[00:36:13] at least
[00:36:13] supposed to
[00:36:14] be the
[00:36:15] focal point
[00:36:15] of every
[00:36:16] attack that
[00:36:16] United makes.
[00:36:17] Don't you
[00:36:18] think,
[00:36:18] Ronak,
[00:36:19] that he has
[00:36:19] enough credit
[00:36:20] in the bank
[00:36:21] right from
[00:36:22] his first
[00:36:22] season under
[00:36:23] Ole where
[00:36:24] he literally
[00:36:25] was giving
[00:36:27] United fans
[00:36:27] and FPL
[00:36:28] addicts
[00:36:29] reasons to
[00:36:30] celebrate
[00:36:31] weekend on
[00:36:32] weekend?
[00:36:33] Don't
[00:36:33] think he
[00:36:34] has enough
[00:36:34] credit in
[00:36:35] the bank
[00:36:35] to be that
[00:36:36] unvengeable
[00:36:36] player.
[00:36:36] And I
[00:36:37] say that
[00:36:37] because
[00:36:37] oftentimes
[00:36:38] it has
[00:36:39] been said
[00:36:39] by Sir
[00:36:40] Alex also
[00:36:41] and by
[00:36:41] managerial
[00:36:42] greats
[00:36:42] also.
[00:36:43] If you
[00:36:44] have a
[00:36:45] player like
[00:36:46] that who
[00:36:46] is a
[00:36:47] mercurial
[00:36:47] player,
[00:36:48] you play
[00:36:49] him through
[00:36:49] his bad
[00:36:50] form.
[00:36:50] You play
[00:36:51] him through
[00:36:52] the lows
[00:36:52] in his
[00:36:53] career.
[00:36:55] Because the
[00:36:56] only way
[00:36:56] players like
[00:36:57] that get
[00:36:57] out of it
[00:36:58] is by
[00:36:58] going at
[00:36:59] it all
[00:37:00] over again.
[00:37:01] That happened
[00:37:01] with Rooney
[00:37:02] as well.
[00:37:02] Rooney also
[00:37:03] had terrible
[00:37:03] moments.
[00:37:04] But he
[00:37:04] used to
[00:37:04] bench him
[00:37:05] to get
[00:37:05] him angry
[00:37:06] on the
[00:37:06] bench.
[00:37:06] See Ferguson
[00:37:07] used to
[00:37:07] bench him
[00:37:07] eventually
[00:37:08] in desperation
[00:37:08] in those
[00:37:09] seasons.
[00:37:10] Bruno maybe
[00:37:10] just needs
[00:37:11] that anger
[00:37:11] to freaking
[00:37:12] anyway.
[00:37:12] I think
[00:37:14] Bruno,
[00:37:15] see Wayne
[00:37:16] Rooney was
[00:37:16] an angry
[00:37:17] fellow.
[00:37:17] His reaction
[00:37:18] was anger
[00:37:20] and then
[00:37:20] he would
[00:37:21] prove it in
[00:37:22] his performance.
[00:37:22] He would
[00:37:23] go harder
[00:37:23] in tackles
[00:37:24] but Bruno
[00:37:25] is a little
[00:37:25] different.
[00:37:26] Not every
[00:37:27] player is the
[00:37:27] same.
[00:37:28] He is more
[00:37:28] whiny.
[00:37:29] That
[00:37:30] he sulks
[00:37:31] but he
[00:37:32] definitely
[00:37:33] has enough
[00:37:33] points in
[00:37:34] the bank.
[00:37:34] He is a
[00:37:35] captain.
[00:37:35] He plays
[00:37:35] every single
[00:37:37] game.
[00:37:38] 90 minutes
[00:37:39] or 120
[00:37:40] minutes,
[00:37:40] whichever it
[00:37:40] is.
[00:37:41] He plays
[00:37:41] through it
[00:37:42] all.
[00:37:42] He runs
[00:37:43] his lungs
[00:37:43] out.
[00:37:44] And there is
[00:37:45] no player
[00:37:45] that runs
[00:37:46] as much
[00:37:46] as he
[00:37:46] does.
[00:37:48] Mukesh would
[00:37:48] say that
[00:37:49] he is our
[00:37:49] James Ward
[00:37:50] Prowse because
[00:37:51] back in the
[00:37:51] day,
[00:37:51] Mukesh had a
[00:37:52] particular
[00:37:53] liking for
[00:37:54] James Ward
[00:37:54] Prowse only
[00:37:55] because he was
[00:37:56] available for
[00:37:57] every game.
[00:37:57] And he was
[00:37:58] very happy when
[00:37:59] Ward Prowse went
[00:37:59] to West Ham.
[00:38:00] Where is he now
[00:38:01] fucking Nottingham
[00:38:01] Forest?
[00:38:02] Where he got
[00:38:02] sent off.
[00:38:03] Which by the
[00:38:04] way is your
[00:38:04] only team has
[00:38:05] beaten Liverpool.
[00:38:09] So in a way,
[00:38:10] he has proven
[00:38:14] you right.
[00:38:15] I would always
[00:38:16] vouch for James
[00:38:17] Ward Prowse.
[00:38:17] Yeah, you
[00:38:17] were saying
[00:38:18] it on it.
[00:38:20] Yeah, so
[00:38:20] Bruno, I
[00:38:22] think he is
[00:38:22] definitely a
[00:38:23] player who is
[00:38:24] unbenchable and
[00:38:25] who stays that
[00:38:26] way because as
[00:38:27] I said, he's
[00:38:28] mercurial.
[00:38:28] He's known to
[00:38:30] score goals,
[00:38:31] give assists and
[00:38:32] be that FPL
[00:38:33] asset really.
[00:38:35] And you
[00:38:35] know, just
[00:38:36] comparing, there's
[00:38:37] no comparison
[00:38:38] absolutely, but
[00:38:39] a player who
[00:38:40] generally likes
[00:38:40] to win, who
[00:38:41] likes to score,
[00:38:42] who likes to
[00:38:42] perform, who
[00:38:43] likes to be
[00:38:43] the main man.
[00:38:44] Someone like
[00:38:45] Ronaldo, if he
[00:38:46] had even two
[00:38:47] games that he
[00:38:48] didn't score, I
[00:38:48] know there's
[00:38:48] barely any two
[00:38:50] games that he
[00:38:50] didn't score
[00:38:51] together back
[00:38:52] to back, but
[00:38:52] by the third
[00:38:53] game, he was
[00:38:54] sulking on the
[00:38:55] pitch.
[00:38:55] He was angry
[00:38:56] at every missed
[00:38:57] shot.
[00:38:57] And when you
[00:38:58] put that into
[00:38:59] context with
[00:38:59] United where
[00:39:00] we've been
[00:39:00] struggling and
[00:39:02] he's the one
[00:39:02] who's the
[00:39:03] captain, he's
[00:39:04] the one who's
[00:39:04] been running
[00:39:05] his socks off
[00:39:06] and who's
[00:39:07] not, you know,
[00:39:07] he's hit the
[00:39:08] post so many
[00:39:09] times, who has
[00:39:09] been low in
[00:39:11] form.
[00:39:12] You have to
[00:39:12] think about his
[00:39:13] mentality also.
[00:39:14] He's trying so
[00:39:15] hard and at
[00:39:16] this point to
[00:39:16] bench him would
[00:39:17] be absolutely
[00:39:18] brutal.
[00:39:19] Yeah, exactly.
[00:39:20] I absolutely
[00:39:21] agree.
[00:39:21] Just a quick
[00:39:22] one before we
[00:39:23] wrap up the
[00:39:24] United chat and
[00:39:24] give Mukesh
[00:39:25] something to
[00:39:25] speak about.
[00:39:26] about, I feel
[00:39:27] like players who
[00:39:29] leave Man
[00:39:29] United are
[00:39:30] having a great
[00:39:31] time everywhere
[00:39:32] in the world
[00:39:33] because Angel
[00:39:35] Gomez is
[00:39:35] killing it for
[00:39:36] Lille.
[00:39:36] There are
[00:39:37] talks that he
[00:39:38] also made his
[00:39:38] England debut
[00:39:39] by the way.
[00:39:39] So, you know,
[00:39:40] great for him in
[00:39:41] that sense.
[00:39:41] He's not ruling
[00:39:42] out a return to
[00:39:43] Man United as
[00:39:44] well in the
[00:39:44] future.
[00:39:45] So, as soon as
[00:39:45] he left, his
[00:39:46] career is kicked
[00:39:47] off.
[00:39:56] Italy.
[00:39:56] So, you know,
[00:39:57] he's also
[00:39:58] playing to all
[00:39:58] the galleries in
[00:40:00] his social media
[00:40:00] posts but two
[00:40:02] penalty saves in
[00:40:02] one game which
[00:40:03] we never got to
[00:40:04] see as a Man
[00:40:05] United player but
[00:40:05] good for him,
[00:40:06] David Deir,
[00:40:07] good for you.
[00:40:08] Scott McTominay is
[00:40:09] loving life in
[00:40:10] Napoli.
[00:40:11] He's like scoring
[00:40:11] every other game
[00:40:13] and as United fans
[00:40:15] you think about
[00:40:15] hindsight, right?
[00:40:16] Like in a season
[00:40:17] where we are
[00:40:17] finding it so hard
[00:40:18] to score goals,
[00:40:19] here is one man
[00:40:21] who has done this
[00:40:22] exact thing for
[00:40:23] United.
[00:40:23] He's come up
[00:40:24] clutch so many
[00:40:24] times and now
[00:40:25] he's doing that
[00:40:26] for Napoli.
[00:40:26] I don't know
[00:40:27] why he was sold
[00:40:28] still.
[00:40:29] I don't know.
[00:40:29] Just quickly tell me.
[00:40:30] Yeah, I mean
[00:40:30] one of the worst
[00:40:31] decisions.
[00:40:32] Profit, profit,
[00:40:33] profit, profit
[00:40:33] and loss statement.
[00:40:34] It was purely a
[00:40:36] financial decision.
[00:40:37] I remember even
[00:40:37] as a rival player
[00:40:38] being like,
[00:40:39] hey man,
[00:40:39] this guy is so
[00:40:39] good.
[00:40:39] This guy seems
[00:40:40] like purely a
[00:40:41] financial decision.
[00:40:42] We had to
[00:40:43] balance the books
[00:40:43] and he is an
[00:40:44] academy prospect
[00:40:45] so his entire
[00:40:45] fee is complete
[00:40:46] and utter profit.
[00:40:48] One more
[00:40:49] United,
[00:40:49] ex-United
[00:40:50] player who's had
[00:40:51] his fortunes
[00:40:52] really,
[00:40:53] go well
[00:40:54] is Paul Pogba
[00:40:55] because his
[00:40:56] drugs man
[00:40:56] reduced from
[00:40:57] four years
[00:40:58] to 18 months.
[00:40:59] He can start
[00:41:00] playing football
[00:41:00] next year.
[00:41:02] You have to mention
[00:41:04] Greenwood on that
[00:41:04] list as well, man.
[00:41:05] No, no, no.
[00:41:06] We don't mention
[00:41:06] Greenwood on this
[00:41:07] podcast.
[00:41:08] Fuck that guy.
[00:41:08] Fuck the rapist.
[00:41:10] Fuck him.
[00:41:10] I'm very much
[00:41:11] against Greenwood.
[00:41:12] Fuck him.
[00:41:13] He can do
[00:41:13] whatever he wants
[00:41:14] anywhere else.
[00:41:15] I don't want
[00:41:16] anything to do
[00:41:16] with him.
[00:41:19] Yeah.
[00:41:20] He's a strong
[00:41:20] political stand.
[00:41:22] At this point,
[00:41:23] Greenwood will
[00:41:24] come back and
[00:41:24] be our coach.
[00:41:25] Yeah.
[00:41:26] Going back there.
[00:41:27] I mean,
[00:41:28] it does look like
[00:41:29] our players need
[00:41:30] some sense being
[00:41:31] beaten into them.
[00:41:32] Am I right?
[00:41:33] No?
[00:41:34] Too dark
[00:41:34] a fucking
[00:41:36] domestic abuse
[00:41:37] joke?
[00:41:38] Okay, cool.
[00:41:38] Moving on.
[00:41:39] Moving on
[00:41:40] very, very
[00:41:41] quickly.
[00:41:45] I'll make a
[00:41:46] commotion right
[00:41:46] now just so
[00:41:47] I care about
[00:41:47] your career and
[00:41:48] life.
[00:41:49] I'm like,
[00:41:51] you know where
[00:41:52] to fucking
[00:41:52] come in.
[00:41:55] No, no.
[00:41:55] I'm not going
[00:41:56] to edit anything.
[00:41:56] Right.
[00:41:57] Let's talk about
[00:41:57] Spurs really quickly
[00:41:58] because we lost
[00:41:59] 3-0 to them
[00:42:01] and they also
[00:42:02] let a 2-0 lead
[00:42:03] slip against Brighton
[00:42:04] and they lost
[00:42:04] 3-2.
[00:42:05] Why isn't anybody
[00:42:06] saying the same
[00:42:07] things as they
[00:42:08] are saying about
[00:42:09] Eric Tanag,
[00:42:09] about Ang Postakoglu
[00:42:10] or is it that
[00:42:11] we are such
[00:42:14] cogs in the
[00:42:15] algorithm machine
[00:42:16] that as Man
[00:42:16] United fans,
[00:42:17] we don't get to
[00:42:18] see that side of
[00:42:18] the media and
[00:42:19] of social media?
[00:42:21] Yeah, Spurs
[00:42:21] didn't dominate
[00:42:22] English football
[00:42:22] for 20-30 years.
[00:42:24] That's true.
[00:42:25] That is true.
[00:42:26] That is why
[00:42:27] there is more
[00:42:29] focus on the
[00:42:30] results and
[00:42:31] the trials and
[00:42:32] tribulations at
[00:42:32] Man United.
[00:42:35] Mukesh,
[00:42:35] see where we've
[00:42:36] come down to,
[00:42:36] man.
[00:42:37] Our source of
[00:42:39] pride is what
[00:42:39] we did 30
[00:42:40] years ago.
[00:42:40] Pretty much.
[00:42:43] What?
[00:42:44] What is the
[00:42:45] phrase?
[00:42:45] What is the
[00:42:46] phrase Mukesh?
[00:42:47] What is the
[00:42:47] phrase?
[00:42:48] How the
[00:42:48] tables have
[00:42:49] turned and
[00:42:50] the turns have
[00:42:50] tabled.
[00:42:51] Oh my God.
[00:42:54] Like Michael
[00:42:55] Scott.
[00:42:56] Like Michael
[00:42:56] Scott.
[00:42:56] You guys are in
[00:42:57] your Gerard
[00:42:58] Hulier and
[00:43:00] finding Rafa
[00:43:01] Merite's
[00:43:01] around.
[00:43:02] There's a while
[00:43:03] before Klopp
[00:43:05] slash the next
[00:43:06] Foggy comes.
[00:43:06] Because I think
[00:43:07] that's how it's
[00:43:07] been for United
[00:43:07] also.
[00:43:08] Even before
[00:43:08] Foggy,
[00:43:09] there was a
[00:43:09] big period of
[00:43:10] drought after
[00:43:11] Matt
[00:43:12] Boosby.
[00:43:13] So I
[00:43:14] think this is
[00:43:15] the history.
[00:43:16] This is the
[00:43:17] cycle.
[00:43:19] This is how it
[00:43:20] is to be a
[00:43:20] United fan.
[00:43:24] hopeful.
[00:43:26] If Tenha does
[00:43:27] manage to turn
[00:43:28] it around at
[00:43:28] United, then I
[00:43:30] think there's
[00:43:31] nothing this man
[00:43:32] can't do.
[00:43:32] Then he'll just
[00:43:37] keep going up.
[00:43:39] Because then he's
[00:43:40] faced the worst
[00:43:41] of it and still
[00:43:42] come out on the
[00:43:43] other side.
[00:43:43] Yeah.
[00:43:44] I mean, one
[00:43:45] can hope man.
[00:43:46] That is the hope
[00:43:47] that we live with.
[00:43:48] That is the hope
[00:43:48] that we pray for.
[00:43:49] Blind hope.
[00:43:50] But Spurs are
[00:43:51] the first club in
[00:43:53] Premier League
[00:43:53] history to lose
[00:43:54] 10 games in which
[00:43:56] they led by two
[00:43:57] goals or more.
[00:43:58] Now, can we
[00:44:00] shift the question?
[00:44:01] Yeah, let's
[00:44:01] shift that question
[00:44:03] to Ange
[00:44:03] Postoggi.
[00:44:04] And I feel like
[00:44:05] Ange doesn't get
[00:44:07] the kind of hate
[00:44:08] that Tenha gets
[00:44:08] because of the
[00:44:09] kind of personality
[00:44:10] he is and how
[00:44:12] much that differs
[00:44:13] from Tenha as a
[00:44:14] personality.
[00:44:15] Tenha is very
[00:44:16] Dutch.
[00:44:16] He's very to the
[00:44:17] point, very blunt.
[00:44:19] does not have
[00:44:20] charisma at all
[00:44:22] even though he
[00:44:22] tries very hard
[00:44:23] for it.
[00:44:24] Whereas Postoggi
[00:44:25] being Australian,
[00:44:26] he's very pally
[00:44:26] with his players.
[00:44:27] He's very pally
[00:44:28] with the media.
[00:44:28] He can get angry
[00:44:30] and he shows it
[00:44:30] to the media
[00:44:31] and to his players.
[00:44:32] But by and large,
[00:44:33] everybody loves him.
[00:44:34] And how much
[00:44:35] of that should
[00:44:37] color your opinion
[00:44:38] about how good
[00:44:40] of a manager you
[00:44:40] are?
[00:44:41] Or is it just
[00:44:41] Spurs?
[00:44:42] No, it's just
[00:44:43] Spurs.
[00:44:44] But like before
[00:44:45] when the season
[00:44:45] started, when they
[00:44:46] lost their first
[00:44:47] three, four games,
[00:44:48] he was asked
[00:44:48] the same question
[00:44:49] like Tenha came
[00:44:50] out and said,
[00:44:51] I'm the second
[00:44:52] best team
[00:44:52] behind Man City
[00:44:53] because he won
[00:44:53] trophies.
[00:44:54] I mean,
[00:44:55] that's not what
[00:44:55] he meant to
[00:44:55] say, but that
[00:44:56] the dude doesn't
[00:44:56] know translation,
[00:44:57] right?
[00:44:57] So yeah,
[00:44:59] Postoggi was also
[00:45:00] pressed in the
[00:45:01] media.
[00:45:01] He's like,
[00:45:02] mate, I don't
[00:45:04] think I'll win
[00:45:05] my second season.
[00:45:05] I always win
[00:45:06] in my second
[00:45:06] season, right?
[00:45:07] He was under
[00:45:08] pressure.
[00:45:09] United
[00:45:12] done.
[00:45:13] That's it.
[00:45:13] You have to
[00:45:14] beat United
[00:45:14] pressure off
[00:45:15] you.
[00:45:16] But honestly,
[00:45:17] again, you
[00:45:17] beat United,
[00:45:19] you went ahead.
[00:45:19] Okay.
[00:45:20] They won the
[00:45:20] last five
[00:45:21] games including
[00:45:21] United.
[00:45:22] So he
[00:45:22] turned the
[00:45:23] form around
[00:45:24] but then again
[00:45:24] they've come
[00:45:25] and lost to
[00:45:25] Brighton and
[00:45:26] that is
[00:45:26] when Spurs
[00:45:26] and this
[00:45:27] is also
[00:45:27] the criticism
[00:45:28] of Posto
[00:45:29] Guglou.
[00:45:30] I play
[00:45:30] high line
[00:45:30] football only
[00:45:31] but it's
[00:45:32] not
[00:45:32] quarter
[00:45:32] top
[00:45:32] for
[00:45:33] last year
[00:45:33] and he's
[00:45:34] doubling
[00:45:34] down this
[00:45:35] year.
[00:45:35] This is
[00:45:35] my style
[00:45:36] of play.
[00:45:37] His
[00:45:37] style of
[00:45:37] play is
[00:45:38] not
[00:45:38] working.
[00:45:38] It didn't
[00:45:38] work
[00:45:38] last
[00:45:39] year
[00:45:39] but
[00:45:39] everyone
[00:45:39] was like
[00:45:40] oh
[00:45:40] look
[00:45:40] at
[00:45:40] Posto
[00:45:40] Guglou
[00:45:41] style
[00:45:41] of
[00:45:41] play
[00:45:41] and
[00:45:42] I guess
[00:45:42] no
[00:45:42] style
[00:45:42] of
[00:45:42] play
[00:45:42] although
[00:45:43] they
[00:45:43] keep
[00:45:43] saying
[00:45:43] style
[00:45:44] of
[00:45:44] play
[00:45:44] to
[00:45:44] it
[00:45:44] triggers
[00:45:44] me
[00:45:44] anyway.
[00:45:46] Okay,
[00:45:47] he has
[00:45:47] style of
[00:45:47] play
[00:45:48] properly
[00:45:48] proven
[00:45:49] not to
[00:45:50] finish
[00:45:50] for
[00:45:50] top
[00:45:50] four.
[00:45:50] Like
[00:45:51] no
[00:45:51] chance.
[00:45:52] Doubling
[00:45:52] down
[00:45:52] on
[00:45:53] this
[00:45:53] year
[00:45:54] wants
[00:45:54] to
[00:45:54] go beat
[00:45:55] Chelsea
[00:45:56] the
[00:45:56] same
[00:45:56] way.
[00:45:57] What
[00:45:57] is
[00:45:59] going
[00:45:59] to
[00:45:59] happen
[00:45:59] to him?
[00:46:08] I
[00:46:10] actually
[00:46:11] find it
[00:46:11] funny.
[00:46:11] I
[00:46:11] think
[00:46:11] after
[00:46:12] the
[00:46:12] post
[00:46:13] match
[00:46:13] Posto
[00:46:13] Guglou
[00:46:13] was like
[00:46:14] I've
[00:46:14] never
[00:46:15] seen
[00:46:15] anything
[00:46:15] like
[00:46:16] this
[00:46:16] before.
[00:46:17] And
[00:46:17] I
[00:46:17] think
[00:46:17] everyone
[00:46:17] is
[00:46:38] on
[00:46:38] brand
[00:46:38] or
[00:46:38] whatever.
[00:46:39] But
[00:46:40] you're
[00:46:40] right.
[00:46:40] He
[00:46:40] did
[00:46:41] say
[00:46:41] that
[00:46:42] I
[00:46:42] always
[00:46:42] win
[00:46:43] in
[00:46:43] my
[00:46:43] second
[00:46:43] season.
[00:46:44] What
[00:46:44] are
[00:46:44] to
[00:46:44] win
[00:46:45] this
[00:46:45] season?
[00:46:46] I
[00:46:46] won
[00:46:46] win.
[00:47:08] No
[00:47:08] on him.
[00:47:09] I
[00:47:09] think
[00:47:11] the
[00:47:12] beauty
[00:47:12] is
[00:47:12] this.
[00:47:13] There
[00:47:15] was
[00:47:15] not
[00:47:16] one.
[00:47:16] There
[00:47:17] is
[00:47:17] not
[00:47:17] see
[00:47:18] because
[00:47:18] first
[00:47:19] of
[00:47:19] he
[00:47:20] was
[00:47:20] third
[00:47:21] choice
[00:47:21] technically
[00:47:21] in
[00:47:22] the
[00:47:22] public
[00:47:22] I
[00:47:22] know
[00:47:22] I
[00:47:23] don't
[00:47:23] know
[00:47:23] what
[00:47:23] no
[00:47:23] one
[00:47:38] was
[00:47:38] Ruben
[00:47:38] Amorim
[00:47:38] and
[00:47:39] then
[00:47:39] Slott
[00:47:39] came
[00:47:40] up.
[00:47:40] The
[00:47:42] good
[00:47:43] thing
[00:47:43] is
[00:47:43] Slott
[00:47:43] had no
[00:47:45] expectation
[00:47:45] of it.
[00:47:46] is like
[00:47:46] this is
[00:47:47] the
[00:47:47] David
[00:47:47] Moyes
[00:47:47] season
[00:47:48] or
[00:47:48] worse.
[00:47:50] Finishing
[00:47:50] on par
[00:47:51] with
[00:47:51] David
[00:47:51] Moyes
[00:47:52] would
[00:47:52] have
[00:47:52] been
[00:47:52] a
[00:48:08] so
[00:48:08] good
[00:48:08] but
[00:48:10] you
[00:48:10] have
[00:48:11] to
[00:48:11] say
[00:48:11] there
[00:48:11] was
[00:48:11] some
[00:48:11] expectation
[00:48:12] if you're
[00:48:13] following
[00:48:13] Klopp
[00:48:14] and
[00:48:14] you're
[00:48:14] getting
[00:48:16] that
[00:48:16] team
[00:48:16] there
[00:48:17] were
[00:48:17] expectations
[00:48:18] from
[00:48:18] David
[00:48:18] Moyes
[00:48:18] also
[00:48:19] like
[00:48:19] if
[00:48:19] I
[00:48:19] go
[00:48:19] back
[00:48:20] to
[00:48:20] 2013
[00:48:20] and
[00:48:20] that
[00:48:21] fateful
[00:48:21] season
[00:48:21] that
[00:48:22] is
[00:48:22] etched
[00:48:23] into
[00:48:23] our
[00:48:23] memories
[00:48:24] forever
[00:48:26] everybody
[00:48:27] was
[00:48:27] like
[00:48:27] oh
[00:48:27] fuck
[00:48:28] he's
[00:48:28] the
[00:48:28] chosen
[00:48:28] one
[00:48:29] Alex
[00:48:29] Ferguson
[00:48:29] personally
[00:48:30] selected
[00:48:32] he's
[00:48:32] Scottish
[00:48:32] he's
[00:48:33] Scottish
[00:48:34] Everton
[00:48:34] Everton
[00:48:35] took
[00:48:35] top
[00:48:36] four
[00:48:37] what
[00:48:38] will
[00:48:38] he
[00:48:38] be
[00:48:38] able
[00:48:39] to
[00:48:39] do
[00:48:39] with
[00:48:39] a
[00:48:39] team
[00:48:39] like
[00:48:40] United
[00:48:40] with
[00:48:40] the
[00:48:41] superstars
[00:48:41] that
[00:48:41] United
[00:48:41] have
[00:48:42] and
[00:48:42] then
[00:48:43] of
[00:48:43] course
[00:48:43] it
[00:48:43] all
[00:48:43] went
[00:48:43] to
[00:48:43] shit
[00:48:43] so
[00:48:44] if
[00:48:44] you
[00:48:44] look
[00:48:45] at
[00:49:10] he
[00:49:30] was
[00:49:30] getting
[00:49:30] rid
[00:49:30] of
[00:49:30] Ajax's
[00:49:30] monopoly
[00:49:30] in
[00:49:30] and
[00:49:31] he
[00:49:31] came
[00:49:31] in
[00:49:31] and
[00:49:31] he
[00:49:31] took
[00:49:32] Klopp's
[00:49:33] players
[00:49:33] like
[00:49:33] he's
[00:49:33] not
[00:49:34] made
[00:49:34] signings
[00:49:35] like
[00:49:35] KSA
[00:49:35] is
[00:49:35] the
[00:49:35] only
[00:49:36] signing
[00:49:36] in
[00:49:36] Liverpool
[00:49:36] made
[00:49:37] so
[00:49:37] it
[00:49:38] is
[00:49:38] by
[00:49:38] and
[00:49:38] large
[00:49:38] Klopp's
[00:49:39] team
[00:49:40] so
[00:49:40] in
[00:49:41] a
[00:49:41] certain
[00:49:41] way
[00:49:42] it's
[00:49:43] the
[00:49:43] same
[00:49:43] sort
[00:49:43] of
[00:49:43] similarity
[00:49:44] you
[00:49:44] can't
[00:49:44] say
[00:49:45] that
[00:49:45] oh
[00:49:45] it
[00:49:45] is
[00:49:45] in
[00:49:46] hindsight
[00:49:46] you
[00:49:47] can
[00:49:47] say
[00:49:47] David
[00:49:48] Moise
[00:49:48] season
[00:49:49] but
[00:49:49] when
[00:49:50] David
[00:49:50] Moise
[00:49:50] came
[00:49:51] there
[00:49:51] were
[00:49:51] expectations
[00:49:52] and
[00:49:52] similar
[00:49:53] expectations
[00:49:53] are there
[00:49:58] with
[00:50:00] we all
[00:50:00] thought
[00:50:01] as
[00:50:01] United
[00:50:02] fans
[00:50:02] at
[00:50:02] least
[00:50:02] we
[00:50:02] were
[00:50:02] like
[00:50:03] oh
[00:50:03] fuck
[00:50:03] now
[00:50:03] it
[00:50:03] begins
[00:50:04] amazing
[00:50:04] let's
[00:50:05] have
[00:50:05] fun
[00:50:05] but
[00:50:06] it
[00:50:06] was
[00:50:06] just
[00:50:06] a
[00:50:07] blip
[00:50:07] it
[00:50:07] was
[00:50:30] minutes
[00:50:30] of
[00:50:31] bashing
[00:50:31] but
[00:50:31] to
[00:50:32] be
[00:50:32] honest
[00:50:32] I
[00:50:33] feel
[00:50:33] like
[00:50:33] whether
[00:50:33] it's
[00:50:33] Bologna
[00:50:34] in
[00:50:34] the
[00:50:35] Champions
[00:50:35] League
[00:50:36] they're
[00:50:37] all
[00:50:37] softer
[00:50:38] teams
[00:50:38] not
[00:50:39] teams
[00:50:39] after
[00:50:40] this
[00:50:41] he's
[00:50:42] playing
[00:50:42] Chelsea
[00:50:43] now
[00:50:43] this
[00:50:43] is
[00:50:43] a
[00:50:43] Chelsea
[00:50:44] that's
[00:50:44] on
[00:50:44] the
[00:50:44] rise
[00:50:45] this
[00:50:45] is
[00:50:46] a
[00:50:46] Chelsea
[00:50:46] that
[00:50:46] knows
[00:50:46] how
[00:50:46] to
[00:50:46] shoot
[00:50:47] it
[00:50:48] is
[00:50:49] a
[00:50:49] Chelsea
[00:50:49] that
[00:50:49] nobody
[00:50:50] knows
[00:50:51] including
[00:50:52] Marezka
[00:50:54] so
[00:50:56] pretty
[00:50:57] much
[00:50:57] even
[00:50:57] the
[00:50:57] players
[00:50:58] all
[00:50:58] the
[00:50:59] other
[00:50:59] teams
[00:50:59] that
[00:50:59] we've
[00:51:00] played
[00:51:00] so
[00:51:00] far
[00:51:00] the
[00:51:01] players
[00:51:01] know
[00:51:02] how
[00:51:02] to
[00:51:02] play
[00:51:02] them
[00:51:03] beat
[00:51:03] them
[00:51:03] etc
[00:51:03] of
[00:51:04] course
[00:51:04] the
[00:51:05] clean
[00:51:05] sheets
[00:51:05] are
[00:51:06] impressive
[00:51:06] it is
[00:51:06] crazy
[00:51:06] that
[00:51:07] seven
[00:51:07] games
[00:51:07] only
[00:51:07] two
[00:51:08] goals
[00:51:08] but
[00:51:24] I
[00:51:25] one
[00:51:25] really
[00:51:26] challenging
[00:51:27] team
[00:51:27] anywhere
[00:51:27] in
[00:51:28] between
[00:51:28] once
[00:51:28] we
[00:51:29] started
[00:51:29] Chelsea
[00:51:29] I
[00:51:29] think
[00:51:29] there's
[00:51:30] a bunch
[00:51:30] of
[00:51:30] tough
[00:51:30] games
[00:51:30] after
[00:51:31] that
[00:51:31] that
[00:51:32] to
[00:51:32] me
[00:51:32] is
[00:51:32] the
[00:51:32] real
[00:51:33] that's
[00:51:33] when
[00:51:33] slot
[00:51:34] era
[00:51:34] begins
[00:51:34] until
[00:51:35] now
[00:51:35] we
[00:51:35] just
[00:51:35] in fact
[00:51:36] I'm
[00:51:36] thinking
[00:51:37] like
[00:51:37] three
[00:51:37] points
[00:51:37] are
[00:51:38] lost
[00:51:38] what
[00:51:38] three
[00:51:39] points
[00:51:39] that
[00:51:39] you'll
[00:51:39] find
[00:51:39] damn
[00:51:40] hard
[00:51:40] to get
[00:51:40] in
[00:51:40] December
[00:51:41] and
[00:51:41] Jan
[00:51:41] I'm
[00:51:42] like
[00:51:42] you've
[00:51:42] lost
[00:51:43] that
[00:51:43] also
[00:51:43] you've
[00:51:43] lost
[00:51:43] those
[00:51:44] three
[00:51:44] points
[00:51:45] screwed
[00:51:46] like
[00:51:46] even
[00:51:47] watching
[00:51:47] Liverpool
[00:51:47] apart
[00:51:48] from
[00:51:49] a few
[00:51:49] tweaks
[00:51:49] here and
[00:51:50] there
[00:51:50] with the
[00:51:50] formation
[00:51:50] with the
[00:51:51] system
[00:51:51] with the
[00:51:51] way
[00:51:52] they
[00:51:52] approach
[00:51:52] the game
[00:51:53] but
[00:51:53] more or
[00:51:54] less
[00:51:54] you guys
[00:51:56] know what
[00:51:57] you've been
[00:51:57] doing
[00:51:58] I think
[00:51:58] just keep
[00:51:59] trucking along
[00:51:59] you guys are
[00:52:00] doing great
[00:52:02] let's do it
[00:52:07] double tap
[00:52:08] on United
[00:52:09] with the easy
[00:52:10] fixtures thing
[00:52:11] we came back
[00:52:11] for it
[00:52:14] but also
[00:52:15] can you
[00:52:16] imagine
[00:52:16] how nice
[00:52:17] it must
[00:52:17] feel
[00:52:17] for a
[00:52:18] fan
[00:52:18] of a
[00:52:18] club
[00:52:19] to say
[00:52:19] these
[00:52:19] were
[00:52:19] all
[00:52:20] easy
[00:52:20] teams
[00:52:20] we're
[00:52:21] watching
[00:52:21] this
[00:52:21] can
[00:52:23] happen
[00:52:23] in
[00:52:23] match
[00:52:24] can
[00:52:26] no game
[00:52:29] is an
[00:52:29] easy
[00:52:29] team
[00:52:30] every
[00:52:31] team
[00:52:31] is a
[00:52:31] boogie
[00:52:31] team
[00:52:32] every
[00:52:32] team
[00:52:32] is a
[00:52:32] boogie
[00:52:33] team
[00:52:34] every
[00:52:37] match
[00:52:38] is a
[00:52:38] banana
[00:52:38] peel
[00:52:39] every
[00:52:40] game
[00:52:40] before
[00:52:41] we
[00:52:41] wrap up
[00:52:42] Chelsea
[00:52:43] drew
[00:52:44] with
[00:52:44] Forrest
[00:52:44] FPL
[00:52:45] fuck
[00:52:45] up
[00:52:45] for all
[00:52:46] of us
[00:52:46] who sold
[00:52:46] Cole
[00:52:47] Palmer
[00:52:47] did anybody
[00:52:48] sell
[00:52:48] Cole
[00:52:48] Palmer
[00:52:49] never
[00:52:49] bought
[00:52:50] him
[00:52:51] you are much
[00:52:52] better at
[00:52:53] FPL than I am
[00:52:53] I'm
[00:52:54] second in the
[00:52:55] corner flag
[00:52:56] I have
[00:52:57] told you
[00:52:58] I
[00:52:58] told you
[00:52:59] Cole
[00:53:00] Palmer
[00:53:00] and
[00:53:01] Nicole
[00:53:01] Jackson
[00:53:01] and
[00:53:04] ruined it
[00:53:05] but anyway
[00:53:06] that was
[00:53:06] but the fun
[00:53:07] part was
[00:53:07] Everton
[00:53:08] and Newcastle
[00:53:10] United
[00:53:10] at
[00:53:10] Goodison
[00:53:11] Park
[00:53:11] because
[00:53:11] Anthony
[00:53:12] Gordon
[00:53:12] came back
[00:53:13] to
[00:53:13] Goodison
[00:53:13] Park
[00:53:13] for the
[00:53:14] first time
[00:53:14] got a penalty
[00:53:16] and took
[00:53:17] the ball
[00:53:17] with a big
[00:53:18] smile on his
[00:53:18] face
[00:53:19] while
[00:53:19] Goodison
[00:53:19] Park
[00:53:20] fucking
[00:53:20] pulled
[00:53:21] the shit
[00:53:21] out of
[00:53:21] this
[00:53:22] Judas
[00:53:22] as they
[00:53:23] would
[00:53:23] like to
[00:53:24] call him
[00:53:24] and then
[00:53:25] Pickford
[00:53:25] saved it
[00:53:26] it was
[00:53:27] one of
[00:53:28] the most
[00:53:29] cathartic
[00:53:29] moments
[00:53:30] in a
[00:53:31] non-Everton
[00:53:31] fan's
[00:53:32] life
[00:53:32] who doesn't
[00:53:34] care about
[00:53:34] Everton
[00:53:35] I felt
[00:53:36] good
[00:53:36] because
[00:53:36] Anthony
[00:53:37] Gordon
[00:53:37] looks like
[00:53:38] a
[00:53:42] harami
[00:53:43] child
[00:53:44] like he
[00:53:44] looks like
[00:53:45] a spoiled
[00:53:45] brat
[00:53:45] and
[00:53:47] for
[00:53:48] everything
[00:53:48] that
[00:53:48] Everton
[00:53:49] have
[00:53:49] gone
[00:53:49] through
[00:53:49] over
[00:53:50] the
[00:53:50] last
[00:53:50] few
[00:53:50] years
[00:53:50] with
[00:53:51] their
[00:53:51] ownership
[00:53:51] and
[00:53:52] with
[00:53:52] every
[00:53:52] bit
[00:53:53] of
[00:53:53] nonsense
[00:53:54] point
[00:53:54] deduction
[00:53:54] and all
[00:53:55] which
[00:53:55] on
[00:53:55] Daesh
[00:53:55] doing
[00:53:56] everything
[00:53:57] he can
[00:53:57] to keep
[00:53:57] them in
[00:53:58] the
[00:53:58] Premier
[00:53:58] League
[00:53:58] and
[00:53:59] succeeding
[00:53:59] by the
[00:53:59] skin
[00:54:00] of his
[00:54:00] teeth
[00:54:01] this is
[00:54:02] the
[00:54:02] victory
[00:54:02] that
[00:54:02] they
[00:54:03] deserved
[00:54:03] this is
[00:54:05] that little
[00:54:05] moral
[00:54:06] victory
[00:54:06] that they
[00:54:07] fucking
[00:54:07] needed
[00:54:08] and deserved
[00:54:09] and I
[00:54:09] feel like
[00:54:10] Daesh also
[00:54:11] must have
[00:54:11] said to
[00:54:11] his players
[00:54:11] our season
[00:54:12] begins now
[00:54:15] but it was
[00:54:16] also great
[00:54:17] to see the
[00:54:17] Everton
[00:54:17] social media
[00:54:18] account
[00:54:18] play that
[00:54:20] clip of the
[00:54:20] penalty save
[00:54:21] and put a
[00:54:21] negative buzzer
[00:54:22] on it because
[00:54:23] a fan
[00:54:23] asked for
[00:54:24] it
[00:54:24] they are
[00:54:25] going all
[00:54:25] out and
[00:54:26] trolling their
[00:54:26] ex-players
[00:54:28] imagine you
[00:54:29] can't scope
[00:54:29] our small
[00:54:30] hands man
[00:54:32] imagine not
[00:54:33] being able to
[00:54:34] scope our
[00:54:34] small hands
[00:54:35] yeah but
[00:54:35] to give him
[00:54:36] credit
[00:54:37] Jordan Pickford
[00:54:38] is a
[00:54:39] classic
[00:54:39] shithouse
[00:54:40] he's a
[00:54:41] very underrated
[00:54:42] shithouse
[00:54:43] because
[00:54:43] Emmy Martinez
[00:54:44] takes all
[00:54:45] that flack
[00:54:46] nobody really
[00:54:47] sees how much
[00:54:48] of a shithouse
[00:54:49] Pickford actually
[00:54:50] is because
[00:54:51] even in the
[00:54:52] Euros for
[00:54:52] England at
[00:54:53] penalty shootouts
[00:54:54] and all he
[00:54:54] was constantly
[00:54:55] going up to
[00:54:55] the taker
[00:54:56] psyching him
[00:54:57] out then
[00:54:58] telling the
[00:54:58] referee
[00:54:59] no no I'm
[00:54:59] going to the
[00:55:01] referee I'm going
[00:55:02] to the referee
[00:55:04] okay I can do it
[00:55:05] that that
[00:55:06] delaying the cake
[00:55:06] doing all that
[00:55:07] nonsense and he
[00:55:08] did that with
[00:55:09] Gordon as well
[00:55:09] and it worked
[00:55:12] no he's a
[00:55:13] keeper with a
[00:55:14] lot of
[00:55:15] experience man
[00:55:16] he's been
[00:55:16] there for
[00:55:17] a long time
[00:55:19] so he knows
[00:55:19] how to deal
[00:55:20] with most
[00:55:22] of the
[00:55:22] situations that
[00:55:23] can come up
[00:55:23] in a goalkeeper's
[00:55:24] thing and he
[00:55:25] knows how to
[00:55:25] especially a
[00:55:26] young player like
[00:55:27] Gordon he knows
[00:55:28] how to get under
[00:55:29] their skin man
[00:55:29] it's not easy
[00:55:30] to just wait
[00:55:31] to take the
[00:55:32] penalty
[00:55:33] like a delayed
[00:55:33] penalty puts so
[00:55:35] much pressure
[00:55:35] especially
[00:55:37] when you're
[00:55:38] facing hardcore
[00:55:39] Evertonians
[00:55:40] behind the
[00:55:41] goal who are
[00:55:42] just shouting
[00:55:44] it's roaring
[00:55:44] absolutely
[00:55:45] roaring
[00:55:46] yeah yeah
[00:55:46] all right on
[00:55:47] that note it
[00:55:48] is time to end
[00:55:48] this episode
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