Season 2 Episode #4: Featuring Harman Wadala

00:00:04 Speaker 1: Her script card, Auna exa Fara 00:00:10 Speaker 1: Sae Nama. 00:00:25 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the fourth episode of script Nama season two A K A podcast. Jo Kahani Ki Phi Kahani Sonata or a Hamas, the writer E Un Khiev Kur. For me, he's a foreign actor of web world. He's a dashing young man with immense talent. He writes, he directs and he acts and I'm sure if he starts to sing, he can sing well as well. So please welcome on our show, the writer of series Tabar Mr Harman Madala. Welcome Herman. How are you? 00:00:51 Speaker 2: Thank you, Rares. Thanks a lot Tay 00:00:54 Speaker 2: AJ KJK AJ DE was 00:01:05 Speaker 1: like, how did you start your journey of becoming a writer and director like ya writing car. Yeah, Iki direction car, Kasia Banha College, Maya 00:01:16 Speaker 2: College. T me very family may be 00:01:22 Speaker 2: Merian Shake Fan, me Papa Ko Sari film fan. Me Mama Mai. The film to Meri Family Men Subo film Na Ba Mere, Papa. Ahi Amare Gar ya to ahi uh Punjabi carry on Jatta film like yo ear K Ken Puri Family. 00:02:05 Speaker 2: I was to select the time. I'm a, I'm a video game K bar or 00:02:16 Speaker 2: Mervo moments then film party at the BO 00:02:25 Speaker 2: TFKKK 00:02:32 Speaker 2: uh Papa actually civil engineer. OK. Or Ham, a humble background uh Amritsar. So Papa civil engineer to UN to be engineering car or Kalo Ham Apne Construction Company calling UNA we plan the 00:02:47 Speaker 2: or me maths Maths Science will be about 10, 10-K CBC board exam or the Science or number 11 00:03:09 Speaker 2: A Tripoli Kia Tome Tapa University, Miap University me 00:03:18 Speaker 2: branch or exam 00:03:36 Speaker 2: grade or as a confidence down. You keep BS General Ma me or 00:03:54 Speaker 2: to make 00:03:58 Speaker 2: SJ Kathi hostel hostel uh the map. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: It's a Punjabs Nila oh or college maybe Punjab me pa ma pa. 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So yeah, 00:24:14 Speaker 2: um A a the research 00:24:19 Speaker 2: mas T emotion hund co emotion 00:24:25 Speaker 2: just keep with boundary. Now, Punjabi show those emotion, universal 00:24:32 Speaker 2: Ferman uh temple Panch language may remix 00:24:43 Speaker 2: or so the Mo the Universal Hair Family May A 00:24:53 Speaker 2: to Sari family, Mil family of cheese 00:25:09 Speaker 2: and with the Punjab region is Punjabi family singing. So 00:25:26 Speaker 2: Tomanek pilot episode, Lika Joe Saab Khan Nagu. So OK. Or uh so Khanna Parada of course, pan this page, this Mr Uno Chan, this gal. 00:25:40 Speaker 1: So first half of the story, 00:25:43 Speaker 1: would your make it the time? Like 00:25:46 Speaker 2: some made up process? 00:25:48 Speaker 1: What is your writing process 00:25:50 Speaker 2: process? Is 00:25:54 Speaker 2: Kahani mega music BJ OK. Foe go 00:26:02 Speaker 1: work first. 00:26:05 Speaker 2: I always felt more about the father, the father. So my music Sun Ra I always felt like V Karta better say to and the Kaha Khani 00:26:23 Speaker 2: Shukar Maz as a director, Mio opening frame take a Mira Show Shua to title Kki web series, web series to 00:26:45 Speaker 2: or a relationships. Diane or Punjab Kuta Normal Diana look uh Punjabi immigration competition 00:27:15 Speaker 2: drugs me actually a normal Khani the Khan, a normal family jam to town B or a relationship Shu Mazan 00:27:29 Speaker 1: character. First kind of a writer Umar. 00:27:34 Speaker 2: Uh actually character, main character, main character of obstacles are obstacles. Kill a character. Basically characters, the obstacle lunge, Ale Obstacle A VVKFP to Isle pilot, ready to pilot branches O 00:28:00 Speaker 2: A set of formula film, maybe Cake Definitive and H 00:28:28 Speaker 2: OZ on my second season, right? So a series a break, Heng Mera Eisenberg Valley, 00:28:42 Speaker 1: right? A UN hotel because you are discovering as you are writing and you are driving with the character like um car is driving the entire story and other characters are joining them, 00:28:53 Speaker 1: right? Yeah. Yeah. 00:28:54 Speaker 2: Actually Processor Ya Ya Bale, main director of follow JF. 00:29:02 Speaker 2: I don't know 00:29:28 Speaker 2: to me, to me ex ex ex LFK, 00:29:42 Speaker 2: true, 00:29:43 Speaker 1: true character like the, the fighting father, mum, 00:30:01 Speaker 1: the loving mother, happy uh the good son, Peggy, the bad son, lucky the good cop Palak, the sweet girl. And then there is uh uh Multan, the scary guy. Then there is the uh the character Ajit Ajit. So the politician, it characters DKA, which one was the toughest for you to crack in terms of y ISA voice. 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And they were like t is such a unique name. 00:34:22 Speaker 2: You look 00:34:30 Speaker 2: uh a 00:34:30 Speaker 1: common name for you in Punjabi, right? But for us like Hindi people, it's, it's a very new word. 00:34:36 Speaker 2: It, it is a new word for you guys and trust me. Problem Obi Hot here. 00:34:42 Speaker 2: A ST me learning the title sing and so was apt for this should never be mispronounced. Exactly. And Nada 00:35:05 Speaker 2: A AAA KM producer Mega and he was like me and then a TV. 00:35:32 Speaker 2: TT 00:35:50 Speaker 2: and Punjabi is like a word 00:36:05 Speaker 1: to now. Coming back to your writing, right? Uh Apne first Apne Pipe Kraa Apne, I'm gonna start here, right? Us Bahi series BPTPP. What came first 00:36:19 Speaker 2: 24 draft, 2024 drafts 00:36:33 Speaker 2: of 00:36:40 Speaker 1: the detailing is so beautiful that you can actually visualize each and every frame and the way you have edited it also like after editing 00:36:49 Speaker 2: all thanks to 00:36:52 Speaker 2: Una Un Kanal Bharara Crime Drama. 00:36:58 Speaker 1: Uh The Frames Its Gas uh Short. Do 00:37:06 Speaker 2: something I learned from Vince Gilligan. Yeah. 00:37:12 Speaker 2: Uh a high note. 00:37:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. What was the process of writers room for the because 00:37:44 Speaker 1: there are multiple writers 00:37:46 Speaker 2: to manage to Kat Pilot Kat 00:37:55 Speaker 2: at that time uh I approached my two co writers uh Sandeep Jan and another one is Mr Roy Kapur Nani. He's like Voldemort. 00:38:09 Speaker 2: So Yono pilot be in crime 00:38:15 Speaker 2: but in here. Yeah, pilot. Yeah, Kahani Yoga. And they were like, why not, why not? As fans, Lika 00:38:42 Speaker 2: Hum Hum. Writers, Rose Haran Jam. 00:38:52 Speaker 2: He was entirely new 00:39:08 Speaker 2: play the original, 00:39:34 Speaker 2: right? So 00:39:34 Speaker 1: teaching because as a new writer or may have could writing Cki Rao or your listeners say 90% of them are screenwriters and wanna be screenwriters or budding screenwriters. 00:39:46 Speaker 1: What is most important in Beijing? 00:39:49 Speaker 1: Is it the pilot? Is it your conviction in the story? Is it the complete story? Because nowadays they also ask for season two, sometimes when you go for a 00:39:58 Speaker 2: pal as a new writer 00:40:06 Speaker 2: for me pilot episode, Bohay. OK. Look Bible Bal Lethe Puri Kahani Banal, lethe sathe writer's note, characters, key list season to make is a ban. 00:40:19 Speaker 2: They go 00:40:22 Speaker 2: KP A 00:40:27 Speaker 2: sub effective ch pilot episode mia show pilot episode per a wild character or other pilot episode. And a BM uh JL A documents. Kahani 00:40:55 Speaker 2: Maud bought slow uh slow reader room to me. Barbata. What you to 00:41:02 Speaker 2: uh networks also a pilot episode though? 00:41:15 Speaker 1: So what is more recommended writing 1st 10 pages or the entire pilot episode of 30 40 pages 00:41:28 Speaker 2: as a writer, a a imagine Garar Arab das A Mazan Lata au Kahani Mazan Laka episode, man. An Saki 00:41:43 Speaker 2: the Sunday rats draft. 00:42:12 Speaker 2: Right. Right. Right. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: Kiss. But a at least a 00:42:49 Speaker 2: true detective make line. The, when you explore the darkness in the humanity, you get to see the light but Bojo humans just to see a civilized person go up point by breaker 00:43:29 Speaker 2: conflict. But challenging 00:43:47 Speaker 2: Punjab or 00:43:56 Speaker 2: Joe Man as 00:44:05 Speaker 2: uh uh uh 00:44:52 Speaker 1: right. 00:44:53 Speaker 1: Writer block of ail is spirit. You didn't experience writer's 00:44:57 Speaker 2: block, writer's block actually block writer, Manai Karte Gar 00:45:07 Speaker 2: map pages. Burness is other 00:45:11 Speaker 2: excitement. And the last episode or last of beginning A and OK. 00:45:37 Speaker 2: And 00:45:38 Speaker 1: unexpected. Y 00:45:43 Speaker 2: A GK JB. OK. So 00:46:18 Speaker 1: first initial end point 00:46:22 Speaker 2: merely have a point 00:46:24 Speaker 2: cake. Uh Jona hero of a husband, a BV, the company wife Kumar 00:46:32 Speaker 2: Bojo point 00:46:37 Speaker 2: suggestion. 00:46:40 Speaker 2: A film art. Does they know whether 00:46:48 Speaker 2: make 00:47:03 Speaker 2: collateral damage? 00:47:13 Speaker 2: I'm in season three point me characters, Umar Happy Happy Man, 00:47:34 Speaker 1: which are the characters like got inspired from your 00:47:36 Speaker 2: real family or just the, 00:47:59 Speaker 2: the last episode of the Jesse Ponch? 00:48:02 Speaker 2: Tap me, Garw Manu. Our last episode when a Miri Papa said Kat credit Sani Shoe or Miria 00:48:14 Speaker 2: Imkr 00:48:22 Speaker 2: A and the Galia 00:48:46 Speaker 2: fresh Voice. 00:49:01 Speaker 2: Oh Wow, Papa. Still 00:49:29 Speaker 1: a 00:49:37 Speaker 2: and 00:49:39 Speaker 2: oh to Jack to uh realize, OK, that was necessary. OK. Ungo Justified Pale. Just another show. 00:49:50 Speaker 1: Yes. No, it is. That kind of a show which stays with you for, for quite some time. Uh Before we end our show and I just want to have one small thing from you, Kr A screenwriters 00:50:04 Speaker 1: uh uh 00:50:18 Speaker 2: Ss Pale to A K A my favorite shows, right? Kiso Friends for Ko How Mother was Kiso Mere Fargo or uh Breaking Bad Hamna har har de E then India go TB E then India may breaking bad TV. 00:50:45 Speaker 2: JB. The time. 00:50:57 Speaker 2: Apu Joan Pale V recreate Karo. OK. Give me learning. OK. A uh 00:51:04 Speaker 2: other Apco friends person up friends, Lika Shuar. But observe, imagine Garni. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: That's a very nice line. Yeah. Uh Joa OK. 00:51:18 Speaker 2: Me B Lika Imagine Gar aka observed Kara to observe Karna Mirko aka character Samaan sho me JT the, the Pali Bar man. Gar soa Shu. So uh that was the time Miko relays a ki journey to 00:51:44 Speaker 2: a Kkkky uh V Jab Karina, basically filmmaker Jack Kaal Bath Kitna helicopter short Kse Marta or 00:52:14 Speaker 2: to Susan sing Karnik Pale, observe 00:52:24 Speaker 2: to observe Kar Jab Leko VBKK, Shadi Karta kiss as a react Karta VJK or real or original lag Don Go Eleni. After all right, th 00:52:52 Speaker 2: authentic logo. 00:52:53 Speaker 1: And I think that's how you're gonna find nuances of your characters as well. 00:53:14 Speaker 2: Uh Happy Papago bag many Chora, right? UPSC and that was the reaction PPA Bolani Galin the or Varta Lakai Gus Bole. And he says 00:53:34 Speaker 1: he has made peace with it. 00:53:37 Speaker 2: And that's what fathers do. Ma imagine Glik to many. 00:53:57 Speaker 2: He is a man of few words. Exactly. Or just point. 00:54:04 Speaker 1: He has to deal with 00:54:04 Speaker 2: bigger things. Exactly. Our father. 00:54:11 Speaker 1: Well, Johan, right? 00:54:14 Speaker 2: So we have learning the ok, imagine imagination is, are 00:54:19 Speaker 1: so thank you, Herman. Thank you for coming to our show, taking your time out. I can definitely say this has been one of the best conversation I had with any writer, the fun conversation. And I literally, I, I'm taking too many lessons with me to my home and I hope that makes me a better writer and uh that helps our listeners as well. Thank you. 00:54:36 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Adesh for inviting me or uh 00:54:40 Speaker 2: man, I am a freelancer 00:54:46 Speaker 2: and 00:54:53 Speaker 2: thank you. Thank you. Thanks a lot. 00:54:54 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to our episode. We hope you enjoyed it and found some answers and insight. 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