Ep 246- Kick

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[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi, and welcome to a new episode of Khandaan Podcast.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_04]: My name is Asim Burney and I'm joined with my lovely co-host Sujoy and Amritha.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Sujoy, Hey, Amritha.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, everybody.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_04]: We are back with a new episode.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about a few things, a few releases that came out.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_04]: We, me and Sujoy watched Yudhra last night and we didn't even tell Amritha.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_04]: We didn't inform her that we were going.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: We didn't say, Amritha, you should watch it.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just me and Solo Sujoy going there, just sitting through it.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a night before, no?

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Was it last night?

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, it was Friday night.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_06]: It's Sunday now.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_06]: True, true, true.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: You could have seen a very important episode on Khandaan, right?

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Unlike Yudhra.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And our main review is going to be Kick Salman Khan's Kick, which

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_04]: is it me or has it gone like some sort of resurgence on Twitter?

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing like quick kick clips and things.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we will talk about it.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about it.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, is this my timeline because there's a Salman bias anyway?

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But like what's going on?

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that okay?

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_06]: It's also like the algorithm playing with you, right?

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Because you've been watching it.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_06]: So it like sent like everything, every content that you come across online

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_06]: will sort of circle around the hashtags and the metadata that you go through.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, all those cookies are coming for you.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_06]: The Salman cookies are coming for you.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Salman cookies.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_06]: As they should.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But we'll get to that later.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to hear first from Sujoy.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you watched Sector 36 on Netflix.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Netflix.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_06]: You like chocolate, right?

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: This is for me.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, man.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_06]: So Sector 36 is a Maddox production, I believe it is sort of a fictional

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_06]: retelling of a very horrible, like really terrifying true story or true events which

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_06]: were infamously called the Netari case, which happened, I believe in the mid 2000s

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_06]: in Noida and it wasn't Sector 36 of Noida.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_06]: It was, I can't exactly remember the specific details, but it was, it circled

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_06]: around the story or the true events of many, many children disappearing and the

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_06]: serial killings revolved around it.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And there were two main accused from those events.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_06]: One was the rich person who owned this complex and then his sort of help guy who

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_06]: was doing the majority of the serial killing basically.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And many, many years later, I think it was last year.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_06]: So 2000s, if it happened in 2006, it was 12 years, is it 12 years ago?

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_06]: No, 20, 18 years ago.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So almost 18 years later, both of them have been acquitted by many, many courts.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_06]: It's gone through many, many cycles of, you know, judicial hearings and both

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_06]: of the accused are now acquitted on the basis of there are not

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: circumstantial evidence.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Circumstantial evidence other than the accused, you know, confessing to the crime.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like horrendous, like all these kids, mostly girls, little girls

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_06]: under the age of 10, you know, disappearing and their bodies being

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_06]: found in drains and all of that.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And there is only one single girl adult who was one of the ones who

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_06]: disappeared, obviously killed by this horrendous man.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And it basically comes down to, you know, the incompetence of the entire

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_06]: system to handle such an event in India like the police, the judiciary,

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_06]: everybody involved at every single stage of the judiciary and the whole

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_06]: system that should the law and order system basically failing the normal

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_06]: population, especially the ones at the bottom of the hierarchy chain in the

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Indian society.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: It's stars Vikrant Masi and Deepak Dobriyal as the main protagonists of

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_06]: this story, the hero or the villain or whatever you want to.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_06]: There is no hero as such.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_06]: It's mostly a thriller drama.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And both of these actors have really played it really well, but it's

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_06]: definitely not an easy watch.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Like you like what I've said now is not going to be easy for anybody to

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_06]: sit down and enjoy on a Sunday afternoon or whatever, you know.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_06]: But if you want to know like a fictional retelling of what happened

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_06]: in the Nittari case in 2006, 2007, I believe.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's available on Netflix.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_06]: It's called Sector 36.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_06]: It's well made.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It's really well made and especially there is one particular scene of the

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_06]: interrogation and how it unfolds.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It's really, really masterfully done and Vikrant Masi and Deepak Dobriyal,

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_06]: they have really proved their metal in that particular scene.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I had not heard of this case at all.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I think if it is horrific, I don't know if I'd

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_04]: agree with you, but it's kind of cool that Vikrant Masi and Deepak Dobriyal are

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_04]: getting these main leads in these kind of movies for Netflix.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: That's kind of cool.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it is kind of if you're in the mood for that kind of stuff, right?

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like some people are true.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it like true crime-ish or is it more like Silence of the Lammish?

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't say it's like a cat and mouse chase and, you know,

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_06]: the thrill of how the police figures it out.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_06]: It's more like on the spectrum of, you know, this is how the events unfolded

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's more like a retelling of that tale.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So I wouldn't say it glorifies anything or it's trying to justify anything

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_06]: in a way it doesn't necessarily have a stance.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I would say it's not sensationalist.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I don't think so.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just like horrible things are happening and, you know.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you going to watch it, Amrita?

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably, yeah.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Cool. The second thing I mean we discussed earlier, we watched Yudhra.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So, why did you suggest to watch this movie?

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: This was kind of your idea.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like, what was this one?

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: The one you were like, so let's go, let's go Friday.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: What happened? What was going on?

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_06]: What did you do?

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_06]: No, you texted me saying, oh, Yudhra is out this weekend.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I was like, because we sort of managed to talk about the trailer

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_06]: when it dropped briefly and then it disappeared from my memory completely

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_06]: until you brought up in that text.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, okay, it's releasing.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And I had pretty much nothing to do.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And we were like, from the trailer, I watched the second trailer then

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_06]: and it really looked like they are capitalizing on the momentum

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_06]: of what Kill brought, like the action, like balls to the walls action

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_06]: sort of a movie.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And I saw that the Excel team is involved in the production.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_06]: So I thought, I assumed that this would be a half decent movie.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And we were like, yeah, let's go, Asim.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, content.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So this movie is written by Shridhar Raghavan.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It has dialogues by Farhan Akhtar.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's produced by Excel.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It has music by Shankar Yassan Loy, lyrics by Javed Akhtar.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Javed Akhtar.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It stars Siddhan Chaturvedi who's done some good roles.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like he's an up and coming actor.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think the female performances Malvika Mohanan,

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Mohanan, if I'm not mistaken, that's her name.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And also the guy from Kill is in there, right?

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So it had propulsion, it had momentum.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And it is such a piece of shit.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It is so bad.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It is so bad.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, honestly, there was a moment where Sujoy and I thought

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: this movie was written by Chad GPT or something like that.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Like none of it made any sense.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It's basically a story like this.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Been so many of, you know, the guy is a psycho,

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: but he has a good heart.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like we make a lot of these movies.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's just going like bloody and now I'm gonna,

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, punch up 50,000 men and like just because they did something

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and now, but I'm a good guy and I just need like a woman to hold my hand.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of that kind of movie.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think Excel has just gotten a bit of a hangover from KGF,

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: so they're trying to make these like macho action movie kind of things.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And we thought, initially, we thought that they just outsourced this,

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, like to the B team.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: No, literally the A team was involved.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It's still not a good movie.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It's really, really bad.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, Suja.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you like it a bit more than I did or?

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_06]: No, well, like you were next to me and like 20 minutes in this movie is still

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_06]: stuck in the origin story of how this kid and the whole lore of the Chip Kali

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_06]: and everything all of that.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I told you, like this movie goes forever doing exposition that does not

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_06]: matter and then the action scenes happen and this is supposed to be

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_06]: an action movie and it's so far like it's so sparse in the action sequences as

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_06]: well, and that's not satisfying at all.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, man, this movie was so disappointing on so many levels.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it could have been saved at many, many stages, like in the scripting

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_06]: stage at the filmmaking stage at the editing stage even or maybe a reshoot

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_06]: could have saved it.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And watching this movie, it is quite evident that this was not cheap to make

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_06]: and why then just push this as like a half finished product?

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_06]: It felt like a punishment to sit through this movie, like how terribly made it

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_06]: was, how terribly...

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but also we sort of discussed this that if the leads were somebody

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_06]: who had sort of a star momentum to them, be it Prabhas or be it Yash,

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_06]: this would have been a bigger hit, I think.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Because Siddhan Chaturvedi does not have that star power yet.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know when he will.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_06]: But if he was of that sort of status in the box of a circle, then

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_06]: this not having a proper plot wouldn't have mattered.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_06]: But because it is Siddhan Chaturvedi and because it is Raghav Jayaal

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_06]: and because it is Malvika Mohanan, the movie needs a lot more for it to be

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_06]: like a standout movie for us.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Otherwise this has pretty much nothing to say and nothing to show either.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I would flip it around though.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't say this is Siddhan's fault or the actor.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel actually both of them are quite good.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's good in the dancing.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: He's good in the action.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, the way it's shot is really nice.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Locations are great.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: The costuming is great.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: The choreography is great.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Performances are fine.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Like they're doing well in the action sequences.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's just that the story needed at least two or three rewrites.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You know?

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's really...

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not blaming Siddhan.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_06]: What I'm saying is because the writing and the making is so sloppy,

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_06]: they needed a star power to sort of hide those flaws.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_06]: What I mean.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Because the story is so bad, the making is so bad,

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_06]: it's more evident when Siddhan Chaturvedi is in the frame.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_06]: You know?

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Like obviously they are sort of still riding the wave of KGF

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_06]: because the BGM is so loud.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_06]: It's one particular scene where the scene in Portugal

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_06]: where there is a fight in the music museum

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_06]: and they could have really amped it up by just cutting the BGM

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_06]: and all the sound effects to happen with all the musical instruments

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_06]: that were involved in the fight scene.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And there is a particular scene where the sidekick is getting killed by a flute

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_06]: and he sort of chokes on it and the flute starts playing, right?

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_06]: That could have been so much more effective

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_06]: if the BGM was completely silent, but it was so loud and amped up.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_06]: The moment doesn't hit, right?

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the moment doesn't hit.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a piece of music or it's comedic or what it's supposed to be

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and a lot of these beats just don't work really well.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, on the other hand, you know, like they can only become stars

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: if they are getting these chances, right?

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of like chicken and egg situation.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So...

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Like a good movie, like Kill.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Both of the leads from Kill are now...

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_06]: They ride a sort of a bigger image

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_06]: because of the movie that made them.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_06]: But obviously not every action movie that comes out of India can be Kill.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Kill is unique and it has just very propulsive action.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: This doesn't...

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_04]: This is kind of standard Masala movie

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: and then you have to cut for this song or that song and backstory.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Those transitions are rough.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_06]: They actually had that action sequence

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_06]: and Asim told me like,

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Now there will be a song.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Now there will be a song in Portugal Beach.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And the song comes and the song is shit.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And then at the end of the movie when the end credits roll

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_06]: and you're like written lyrics by Javed Akhtar.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: That was a weird part, right?

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You come out of a movie with Excel producing,

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Pharan writing, Javed Akhtar and like the music.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't hum you a song of the movie.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I cannot tell you a dialogue that was cool.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like I have nothing.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so yeah, that just makes it a kind of a failure.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Right? Like it's a shame.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And also the movie really wears its influences on its forehead in a way.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like Akira is there and then you see the bike of Akira in the background.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You have the shot from...

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_04]: If you like managed to...

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_04]: ...more identity twice.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_06]: If you like managed to escape any reference,

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_06]: like here it is again,

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_06]: you know repeatedly bombarded on your face.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So it really wears a lot of those...

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, now he's going to wear a suit and then shoot like he's John Wick,

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_04]: you know that kind of thing.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_04]: No reason for it but yeah.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be out in Prime, Amrita.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you feel we cheated you and you missed out and we didn't tell you,

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: it's going to be out on Prime and Excel is making their money

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: out of Prime chunalagake.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, after that hard sale guys like how could I resist?

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody yesterday a friend of mine was asking me like,

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_04]: can you recommend an Indian movie to me?

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like I haven't seen one in a while.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, you know, like you need to check who you're talking to.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So I recommended Animal because I knew who I was talking to.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And they don't have the context of the conversation going around.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, OK, watch it and if you're getting bored

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_04]: because it's very long,

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_04]: just go to the interval point and watch the fight sequence

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: right in the middle of the movie.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And that'll be good enough.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't point anything in Udra for you to go to that point

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_04]: where Udra will win you over, you know?

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's kind of what I'm saying that it's just missing something

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_04]: and it just doesn't have that firepower, you know?

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm shocked by Asim betraying his one and only love, Vidyut Jamwal.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, wow, like, you know, Vidyut has like one fan

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and that was Asim and now Asim has like changed parties

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and has gone with the nepotism choice, Ranbir Kapoor.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I did not expect this, Asim.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You wanted me to suggest crack

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Jeeyegasa Jeeyegasa Jeeyegasa Jeeyegasa?

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so sorry.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: The modern classic that you've been advocating for, like, you know,

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_03]: however many months it's been since it came out.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_04]: They did ask if it was on Netflix.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise, crack Jeeyegasa Jeeyegasa was going to be my go to.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: We excuses is this why Vidyut Jamwal had to join a circus?

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Vidyut would have rocked in Udra by the way.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying like talking about star power.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_04]: He could have pulled this one out.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's go to our main review enough of, you know,

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: superficial bullshit.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Plug Kalhona that I watched yesterday.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you did.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I did.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, on the big screen.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_06]: That little independent movie that needs more, you know.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just mentioning it because I wasn't on the Kalhona episode

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_06]: when we did on the Khan.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, right.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a bit of a cheating.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_06]: No, no, I think I was traveling or something many, many years ago.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_06]: So I watched Kalhona yesterday.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_06]: It was I don't know how long this was a three hour something long movie.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I I did not like it at all.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't like it either when we rewatched it actually.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we were like party boopers the entire night.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I freaking love the heck out of K3G rewatch the other day

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_06]: and Kalhona did not vibe with me at all.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And in this rewatch and I had not watched this movie in a very, very long time.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I I watched it when it was initially released on like a VCD print

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_06]: because I was doing my engineering then and like cinema

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_06]: and they just like that or just like that.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But again, it was something like that, you know, and the VCD was whatever.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_06]: But like it's gorgeously short.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But the drama around these three characters is just like only these three people

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_06]: exist in New York and they have to choose between these two people.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Right? Like Bechari Naina, she has only these two men to choose from.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And like the whole manipulative angle between the the romance between these two

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_06]: is just terrible. I like the Shahrukh dying was sort of very like jokie

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_06]: in so many places.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And the whole tragedy behind him passing away is not translate.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It did not translate to me.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Like death scenes definitely get me, obviously.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But this death seems seemed so cheap and and lighthearted in a way.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And it went forever, you know, and like and basically Sanjay Kapoor coming

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_06]: and revealing the whole spoiler was like, Sanjay, what are you doing?

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_06]: The soundtrack is bomb, though.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_06]: The soundtrack is freaking bomb.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what a soundtrack one after another.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_06]: What else? Yeah, pretty much that's it.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I did not like it. I did not enjoy it.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_06]: You can enjoy the fact for your big twist.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I do enjoy the fact that we are having this re-release run going on

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: right now because we're getting to watch so many amazing movies.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we had we've had going in India.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: We're having the Karina Kapoor retrospective.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, we have that and then there is obviously like Vizara

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and like all these movies are coming out.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: K-3G actually what?

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Tumbardo Tumbardo is having a re-release.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_06]: They announced that Tumbardo is being made right now.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Apparently that's a little bit of a scandal because the writer director

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_03]: who made it, he's basically been sidelined for the sequel

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's not going to be involved.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just so him and Aadeshw like basically doing it.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So Leila Majnu also got a re-release.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it made more money than it did initially,

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_04]: which I'm so happy about.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that is really cool.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So even Tumbardo was performing better this time around

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_03]: than it was in the first release.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, like things like Vizara are always going to be sold out.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So I also watched something where I don't know if you want to hear about it.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I watched Houseful 3.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Re-released in your TV in the living room.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever watched a movie for one joke?

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry?

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I just said re-released on Asim's TV in the living room.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Basically, we've talked about Srimi Varma on Twitter, right?

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_04]: She posted one joke of that movie about Ashok Fitness.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know this joke?

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I was Ashok Fitness.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_04]: No, okay.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So I watched the entire movie for this one joke only.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And man, that joke was so funny, guys.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: It was so funny.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, but the rest of the movie is such a piece of shit.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'd missed it.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I had not watched this movie when it came out.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was back in the era with, you know,

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: where Akshay was just doing a lot of these movies

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_04]: that weren't like even on my radar.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And Abhishek was also not doing great at that time, I think.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So I just kind of watched it for that one joke,

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: which is still a good joke.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think you should just go to Srimi Varma's Twitter

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and watch it there when she puts the claim on,

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_04]: which is still hilarious.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't watch Houseful 3.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is pretty much the reason

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: why Farhad Samji has a career.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I actually went back to check

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: if it actually was Farhad Samji.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, it is.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It is because Akshay keeps giving them shout-outs

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: on Khan Gan.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_06]: By the way, like...

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I have not watched a single Houseful movie, by the way.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_06]: So all the whole memes from that universe

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_06]: is completely lost on me.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And given that I see the whole list of cast members

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_06]: that are involved in this movie,

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_06]: it feels like an employment agency for all these people.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, it's funny because they had...

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: As the girls, they have Jacqueline Fernandez, Nargis Fakri

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and Lisa Hayden.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And both Nargis and Lisa are hilarious in real life, right?

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you've seen their interviews, you've seen them.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_04]: They're really, really funny women.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And they have nothing to do.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's just crazy that you have a skill set as a performer

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's not used.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You only are used as being pretty.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just such a waste for movies.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know why they do that.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_04]: They could have allowed the women to be funny,

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: but the only thing they do is make fun of their language

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_04]: that, oh, because they're British-born,

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_04]: they switch up certain words.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was the extent of the joke.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Even in the outtakes when they show all the funny bits that happened,

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_04]: the only part they show is where Nargis Fakri messes up her line.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's not funny.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: That's just somebody like 100,000 people mess up their lines, right?

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's the only part that they even put in the outtakes.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, what the hell, man?

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_04]: That got me mad more than anything.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, don't watch Houseville 3.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Just watch the Ashok Fitness joke.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It's really funny.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Shall we move on to our main review?

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, finally.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about some decent cinema, you know, hard-hitting.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, meaningful.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about kick.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_06]: So the IMDb synopsis of kick,

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: read, and kick is a good thing.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And this was a remake of a Telugu movie, right?

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Which I watched 10 minutes of and I couldn't watch the rest of it.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I can't.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was really curious to see what appealed Salman.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I can't.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I remake this movie when I was watching the original.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But what can I say?

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: This movie came out in 2014.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a massive hit.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it was up there with, you know,

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I think with three idiots and stuff like that, right?

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it was like, yeah, let me just pull up the numbers.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Why am I unprepared today?

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a massive, massive hit.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was surprised to hear also read

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_04]: that it was originally supposed to be made with Deepika.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: They ended up getting Jacqueline Fernandez

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_04]: and it was also going to be directed by Murugados

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: who did Gajini.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_04]: That was going to be his follow up.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And it ended up being Sajid Nadi Arwala, the producer

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_04]: who ended up directing this movie.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Amrita, do you have any memories of kick?

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you watch it in 2014?

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I did.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_03]: But the only thing that remained with me were the songs.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like those were like proper bangers, you know,

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and Jacqueline, of course, is just amazing as a performer.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's pretty much all I remembered.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I was watching Jacqueline and I was like,

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_04]: man, this was the period she was really trying.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Like she was really, really trying.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_04]: She was like full on like, you know,

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_04]: she's a very like bubbly kind of person anyway.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I was watching a few interviews.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_04]: She was like so happy to be with Salman.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_04]: This was going to be the big one.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_04]: She had glasses on.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just want to say also, like, you know,

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_04]: we had this discussion when we had Rahul on a couple of weeks

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_04]: months ago now for when we were talking about that.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And I raised this point about, you know,

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_04]: when did psychology and psychiatry become a thing in Indian storytelling?

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel Jacqueline Fernandez did a lot for that, you know,

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_04]: like I feel if there is acceptance in cinema, you know,

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_04]: she's basically the trailblazer for psychology and Bollywood.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, by being called Dr. Psycho.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Psycho, yeah.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Sujoy, man, what did you feel of revisiting kick?

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know that surprisingly,

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_04]: you really, really liked kick when it came out.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I was completely like, you know,

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I was completely washed over by the Salman wave

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_06]: when I went to watch this in cinema.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember this was 2014.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_06]: So I was living in Croydon and I went to the view cinemas there.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a packed Friday night screening.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And like this movie did Salman fan service at its peak then,

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_06]: like what could have been done in 2014.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And Salman is having a blast.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Like he has zero substance, all charisma in this movie, right?

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like enjoying the heck out of it.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_06]: He's doing so much silly Salman in isms in this movie.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was completely blown away by it.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, like by Kodekna and by is giving us everything.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Paisa Vasu movie.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't care about the movie at all.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Like every single time he started dancing to Satsamundar Par.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_06]: People went nuts.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And I remember that so vividly.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Like revisiting that when I'm watching it by myself in my house

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_06]: is a completely detached experience from that.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And then you'd start noticing that this movie does not hold up.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, I still have very vivid memory of watching kick at the cinema

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_06]: with the audience enjoying.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_06]: And because, you know, you know the by fandom

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_06]: and I have been part of that in and out, you know, with movies

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_06]: and experiencing that with fans was, you know, something else.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Which I don't think even Salman can recreate now.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I think when a movie like this hits, we all get a bit too critical.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_06]: But for me, kick somehow managed to, you know, cross that barrier.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever you Amrita.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: What about me?

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_04]: What did you think of rewatching kick?

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Which was sorry.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to say I just want to I made a mistake.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like the third biggest movie of the year.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It came out with PK.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy New Year.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Bang Bang, Singam returns just to and the six was Jai Ho apparently,

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_04]: which is crazy to me.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, Salman was in a good period.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's insane to me that you think like kick was part of a good period

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: in Salman's career because I literally and also it has to do with the print

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: that I was watching.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I will admit that because I was watching this on YouTube

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and that is not like a good experience for anybody.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But literally as soon as I saw that first like prologue kind of a thing,

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_03]: it immediately just the first thing that struck me was like how cheap

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_03]: everything looked and that never really went away.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Like everything just looks incredibly tacky and cheap.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's that Rohit Shetty, ready aesthetic.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's so poppy.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything is clear.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no depth of field.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's really it's really weird to it's like an ad like a Lux ad or something.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_06]: But just I watched it at the cinema when it came out.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And yesterday I watched it on endo isn't because

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_06]: the YouTube print is crap.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I remembered when I watched it, it was crystal clear like

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I spent a lot of money on the ad.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, mine was crystal clear.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, by the way, just to say also why I said this is a good period

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_04]: because the tree had Bajrangi Baijan after this Sultan Prem Ratan Dhan Payo

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and before this he had like Ekta Tiger and the Bungto right.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So this is like Salman was box office king at this moment.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Like nobody else was you know, that's what I mean

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_04]: with a good period for Salman.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: The one thing that I didn't know about this movie is that it was written by Chetan Bhagat.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Apparently, Sajid Nadiarwala wanted what's the name of

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Abhija Joshi?

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Abhija Joshi who is like Raju Hirani's preferred screenwriter.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_03]: He had wanted him to write the the the movie.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But for some reason he wasn't able to probably because you know

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: he was handed a DVD and he looked at the DVD and he was like us.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And like he got through like 10 minutes and he was just like, no, I can't do this.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So then Nadiarwala brought in Chetan Bhagat like what?

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And let me tell you like this movie makes so much more sense

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_03]: now that I know that Chetan Bhagat wrote it.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Tell me why I do not share the knowledge about Chetan Bhagat as much as some people do.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So what makes this Chetan Bhagat?

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: No, just the dialogues, you know, the dialogues are like so terrible.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: The fanservice, I know that Sujoy said that it really worked for him in context

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: when it was released in like what 2014 or whatever.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But it seems really immature and childish now, you know, like

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_03]: and not in like a fun way because sometimes Salman is like very childish

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_03]: and immature, but it's funny.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And you are just like, oh, it's like, you know, it's like a wink and a nod

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Salman.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's not how it comes off in this movie.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the the climax shot, like the very last shot where, you know,

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: he sort of referencing the Bung for instance

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_03]: and they reference the Bung like a couple of times right through the movie.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But like in that very last shot, it's the last shot.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And the Bung itself was such a stylish movie when it came out and it was so much fun.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And putting that there at the end just made you realize all over again

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_03]: that this movie had awful dialogue and the plot was like absolutely non-existent.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And it just brought the shortcomings of this movie all the more to the front

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_03]: rather than, you know, like make you think of it fondly.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And also the fact that, you know, like I've always said,

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_03]: like my problem with Jayden Duggar, there's not that he's a bad writer, which he is.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that he writes for, you know, like poor people or whatever, which fine, that's OK.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_03]: My problem with him is he's just bad at his job.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And you can see that in that last shot because he delivers the punchline

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_03]: and then he gives another punchline.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, what was that about?

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like it makes like and then like he does this.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the last shot and you could tell that Salman also felt that it was bad

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: because he tries to save it with a Salmanism by like doing that weird laugh.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, no, like that's not that's not really doing anything much.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So I remember when this movie came out in 2014 and we were already on Twitter.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We were already I think there's even a you podcast review of this.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I am pretty sure I reviewed it back in the day.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was the first time where I came against the I went against

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_04]: the Salman fandom because Salman was at such a high.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember I even was back then I was quite positive about the one to

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_04]: which I literally never revisited.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But I remember I was like, oh, the one who is OK as in terms of a sequel.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It's bigger and things like that.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And kick I was like done bodyguard ready and kick those three were like

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_04]: massive, massive hits.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Salman Khan's with fans were just like, you know, Patakhe,

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Poto, like celebration time and I any of those three movies

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_04]: just didn't work for me at all.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And rewatching it now, it still doesn't work for me to kick does not work for me

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_04]: as a movie and it's it's.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It feels like a producer's movie and a lack of a director, right?

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Like no single and I can see that as a producer, he went all out.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_04]: He got the best team that he could, right?

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_04]: At that time, he got like the best or the most popular playback singer.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_04]: They have you, you, you, honey sing in there.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You have, you know, you have locations.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You have Jacqueline, you have they spent so much money.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I was watching some of the and even Salman,

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_04]: he does a lot of the stunts apparently himself,

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_04]: like all of those bike sequences where he's riding on top of the buildings.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's him doing that.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And then even the building where he falls off the building in Poland,

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_04]: that's him falling down the building, which is insane to me, Salman doing this.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And obviously because him and Sargent have a long term relationship

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're good friends and things like that, he wanted to go the extra mile.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So they really like even the bus sequence, they have a huge bus sequence,

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_04]: which is the longest bus sequence chase in the history of the world

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_04]: because it actually goes 1,600 kilometers.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it starts in London and it ends in Poland.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't know how like though,

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_04]: two multi police Salman,

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_04]: half is like the British transfer police and then suddenly the police

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_06]: police is after him and they start in the Warsaw Museum.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And then it goes to the bus, which is going to King's Cross.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, back to Poland.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, like he drives the bus around and behind you see NHS Scotland.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, what is this?

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Ads is like, you know, radio in London or listen to the radio.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_06]: They didn't care about the accuracy or whatever continuity.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't care, but they spent the money.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_04]: The money without care.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But Sajat Nadirwal has just not a director.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_04]: He's clearly a producer, right?

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And he can be on the set and he can give his input and things like that.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But he has no directorial vision.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And this that's what the movie basically lacks, right?

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And it really feels that way when I'm rewatching it, where I don't think he's made

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_04]: any other movie as a director, right?

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_04]: No, this was it.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this was it.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Or maybe he did not do one of the Tiger Shop phones if I'm maybe I'm not sure.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I think he financed Baggy.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_06]: All the baggies.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I don't think he's made any movie as a director after this.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess that's the only one successful Sajat Nadirwal is a movie

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_04]: because he spends so much money on these movies.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to be like some.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm convinced he's money laundering at some point.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like it makes no sense otherwise.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_04]: It makes no sense.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he spends like all of his movies have such a grand scale, even like Baggy

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: and even Houseful was a Sajat Nadirwal movie.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_06]: All the Houseful movies are his.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like they spend a lot of money on that one too.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's a lot of money they spent.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember Houseful 3 was not such a big success

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: because it was after it was the first non-Sajat Khan movie.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And it wasn't that big of a success.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you go through all of the movies he's produced,

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_04]: they're not all like massive, massive successes, right?

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Some are.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But I don't know how we keep spending this amount of money

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: on these mediocre movies, to be honest.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Like if you go from 2020 onwards, there's the Baggy 3, Tadab 83, Bachchan Pandey,

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Hero Panty 2, Satya Prem, Bawal Chandu Champion.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's currently making Houseful 5 and Sikander, right?

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_06]: But all those movies did not make enough money.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how he's floating.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. And you also had a lot of these,

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Me, Thera Hero, you know, like those movies with the Sunil Shetty's son.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And then the guy that, the other guy that was, what's his name that

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Aditya Pancholi's son.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Sura's Pancholi.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, his movie also like he's done a lot of these ones too.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Where is like where did all of that money go?

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what are you doing?

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And what Saman looks good though.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I was still happy to say like Saman looks good.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He's clearly having fun and he's so good in action also.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know like for like a like an older guy,

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_04]: like there's a star power to be able to sell action.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And because we watched Udra just before, right?

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And like Siddhant is physically fit, right?

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Like fitter than Salman is in this movie.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's a way of selling action, delivering a punch

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_04]: that these Salman, Shah Rokh, Akshay, Ajay Devgan have

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that these new guys just don't have the way like Shahid Kapoor

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_04]: cannot deliver a punch.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_04]: John Abraham cannot deliver a punch the way Salman.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_06]: For get punch, there is one scene where he slaps this one guy

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_06]: in slow motion and I was like, yeah, my don Lee here.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I wish man.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I wish he was Don Lee man.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but he's bigger than Don Lee to us.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's just that he's not getting those movies anymore.

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Like nobody's making those movies in India.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, should we should we get into that?

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like whose fault is it?

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Like like, yeah, it's it's it's all right.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it has to be like it's when when people say why Shah Rokh

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: not starring with a movie with Taboo directed by Vishal Bahar

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_04]: who's fault is that Shah Rokh's fault?

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like when Salman is not getting the Don Lee movies or stuff like that

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_04]: whose fault is that it's Salman's fault, right?

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because he like he can get it made if you want to.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, his entire like South remake career that he had,

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_03]: it was literally him arranging it.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he'd like call him whatever directed was that he wanted to work with.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is like actual like firsthand like, you know, stories that

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard through the grapevine and I've had like people who know people have told me

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_03]: but he's literally being like, hey come hang out with me at my house.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he's like watch this movie with me.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really great.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he'll watch like my Hesh Babu movie or something and then he'll

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_03]: like take out the DVD and it over to the director and be like,

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_03]: here's the movie that we're going to make buddy.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And if the guy is like, yeah, let's do it.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Then they do it and the guys like no, then like they don't do it.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he just goes and finds another person.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So can you hook me up with that invite?

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I will do this.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I will sit down with Salman, watch a movie and make it for him that it works.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I can do this.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think yeah, Salman, I think all the Khans at this point need to start

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: thinking what their next like 10 year, 10 years of their career is going to look like

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_03]: because their bodies are sort of like falling apart.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And Salman's tired.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we've made this, we've talked about this before.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Salman's tired.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He's not as tired and kick as he is now, but he's tired.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So he needs to sort of decide where he wants to spend his energy

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_03]: because I don't think you know, Kabi Soth and Kabi Sahili is going to be the way forward.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's not a viable career strategy.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But I still think that one was basically because he didn't get, he didn't get inshallah.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was like, okay, there's a slot open.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's make a movie in two weeks and it's still made like 100 crores.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_04]: So you know who's the idiot then?

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what really like pisses me off about Salman is that he has no sense of like

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_03]: what his legacy ought to be.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Right? Like both Amir and Shah Rukh are really invested in how they're going to be remembered once the careers are over.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And Salman's just like, I have to feed all these people.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Therefore, I will just work.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like you can't, like you are Salman Frikin Khan, like have some respect for yourself.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's him and Akshay both have that same mentality about how they work about movies.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think Salman is still more beloved, you know, than Akshay's.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's not hard.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_03]: At this point, you could use chicken pox against Akshay and chicken pox would do it.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: But I feel Salman is doing even less like Akshay at least is doing a toiletic Prem Khatai setting up a pretty decent

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Cape of Good Films or whatever his productionist company is called, you know, he's making some like he's making

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_04]: What was that mission to Mars movie? You know, what was that mission?

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Mungal. Yeah, whatever it was, like at least that is something it might not appeal to me.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It is something right? Salman when he's producing, he's producing Suraj Pancholi.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't understand what the sense is of those two things.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's just he just has a weak team around him.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Like obviously he cannot be the one in charge of producing and writing and wardrobe and everything else.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But his team is weak.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think the team is weak because it's people he knows.

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are weak people, I think, unfortunately.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But let's get back to kick a little bit.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Amirita, you were mentioning this was kind of the height of the Southification wave in Bollywood.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's kind of gone away pretty much.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I think when it was happening then like I think all of us were just like so done with it, right?

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we were like please, I feel like the reason I think it's entirely gone away because like we still get like a Dhrusha movie

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_03]: every time there's a Dhrusha that releases in Malayalam for instance.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think a big part of why it went away is not because the audience was tired or that, you know, like we basically convinced the producers that we wanted something fresh.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it has to do with the fact that the audience changed and audience behavior changed.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean there's been like a massive push in the South industry is to release their movies up north and like, you know, dubbed versions coming out and becoming massively successful.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and we saw that with Alabai Kuntapuramalor when which is this Aloha Jinn movie in Telugu that was remade by Kartik Aryan.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And that was a movie where everyone was just like, oh Kartik Aryan is going to be the next Shah Rukh Khan.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean not everyone is like Kartik Aryan's PR that was seeing Kartik Aryan is going to be the next Shah Rukh.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And it bombed and it bombed because of audience behavior.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't because they did anything massively different from like, you know, the same strategy that say Salman was pursuing for years very successfully.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And everyone that saw the remade version said that it was actually very competently made movie. It wasn't even that.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just that audiences up north have the access to original Southern versions in a language that they understand.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're like, why would we pay twice?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But also because social media campaigns have gotten so nasty at this point that I remember again coming back to this exact movie.

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_03]: People were trying to actively tank it at the box office by sharing links to the original Telugu film.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, like that's a kind of behavior that I have seen repeatedly for remakes where people are just like, well why are you remaking this film?

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, and then also the fan bases for the South actors who originally performed in those movies.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They get really mad for some reason and they see it as a slight against their favorite hero because they're like, well my hero is so good in this movie.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Why is it that you think you can do better?

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna somehow screw you over to show my loyalty to and that's not how Mahesh Babu fans thought back when Salman was remaking his movies, you know, like wanted and whatever.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think audiences have changed. It's not just that they're, it's not that anyone's particularly listening to us when we say, you know, like, hey, maybe go for original content.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is basically featuring out because it's not economically feasible for a lot of these remakes.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. I think also like these stars, like I think you mentioned it, they're now household names in North India too, right?

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, and that wasn't necessarily the case when the Mahesh Babu things were happening with Prabhas now is, you know, yes, is people have seen those remakes.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think streaming helped. I think the pandemic also helped a lot of these things where it's just not possible.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, for example, Pushpa is probably going to be the sequel is going to be the biggest movie of the year.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't see a Pushpa remake in Hindi ever happening.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. Yeah. And that would have been a perfect movie to remake like that, like back in the day.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And also we say, you know, the Southification wave started with wanted.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was always there. Like they were always being remade, but there was this period of 10, 15 years where it was just like everybody from Shahid Kapoor to, you know, Salman to Amin everybody was kind of remaking these movies and making them like a big.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. Shah Rukh ever did though. Like, I don't think Shah Rukh ever stepped on this wave. Maybe he should have. That was a bad period for him.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But he took the Chennai Express route. Yeah. But again, it was not a remake. Right? It was like, it was just a, you know, an abhorrent insult to the South, but it wasn't.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Good. And I think this is also the problem that I have with kick is that it is for Salman, this movie because I don't know the original actor.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I think his name is Ravi Teja if I'm not mistaken.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I just feel from the 15-20 minutes I've watched for Salman to take on that role, it feels very like an ill fitting suit.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't work well with the kind of persona Ravi Tejas and the way Salman is right? Like there's a moment where Salman has to beg Nawazuddin for money and there's a moment where he has to take on this MLA.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And all of that just never really works for me. His breakup scene with Jacqueline doesn't work for me. They never define what a kick is.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's always about talking about this kick, this kick, but they never really define what the kick is.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what does he get out of it? Is it like orgasm? Like what are we talking about exactly? Right?

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And that just feels like a constant ill fitting suit for Salman to me.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he shines when the action is starting, when these bigger pieces are happening because those weren't there in the original.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_04]: The original is quite like a small budget kind of movie. They really threw money at this where they even add like a whole animated sequence in this where there's like a cartoon Salman.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And we've seen that meme that goes around about like how South movies sound in Hindi. It's like Surya Haavo.

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_04]: This movie has exactly that sequence where they're talking about Salman who is the main character of the village.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_06]: So hilarious.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_06]: It's happening guys.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's literally that sequence that is memeified is in kick and it's like yeah, I think the video is called every gold mine movie ever or something like that.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I tried to find it but I couldn't find it but it was like yeah, this is that movie. This is exactly what they were trying to do.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I'm kind of glad that time is over though. Like I'm happy that it's not happening anymore.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Even though you know the movies aren't maybe making as much money anymore.

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you were laughing Amrita at the breakup scene. Were you not heartbroken when Jacqueline and they just can't make it works Amrita.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_04]: They just can't life in circumstances.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the fact that he basically says if you want somebody who's not broke all the time then that man ain't me.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like I'd rather die than like get a job.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_06]: But I'm showing up at 8am. That's not me.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_06]: But then the very next line he says I will decide that my next source of cake is going to be making money and then he walks out like what the heck was I saying.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Chetan Bhagat guys. Chetan Bhagat.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's your fault woman. It's your fault. Chetan Bhagat written by Chetan.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So you weren't feeling it Suja. You weren't heartbroken when these two very old people could not make it work.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_06]: One old people and one very young people.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you this baby man. She's such a baby in this movie right?

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she's a baby. She's babe in this.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_04]: She still is man. She's like amazingly beautiful woman.

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But my God she cannot act. She cannot act.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Who cares Amrita?

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You are the problem Suja.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_06]: She's dancing like she's Beyonce in Jumma Ki Raath. That one scene.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_03]: She's doing the dancing very well.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And also she's promoting psychology Amrita. Like she's doing good work.

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_04]: What are you saying? Which psychologist would wear a mesh red lace dress to go do a psychology session in an underground tunnel.

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That requires commitment to the art of psychology.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_06]: She brings him home to repair him.

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_06]: My patient is there.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_06]: It's mine.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I love the way that she explains it to again Chetan Bhagat.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_03]: She explains it to her dad and she's like he went away and he forgot everything.

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I will make him remember.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I will marry someone in front of him.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Like Chetan Bhagat's love has so much kunnas in it.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a change in love. Like all sides. It's all very violent.

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I have one of the most amazing behind the scenes thing.

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if this is true but I saw it on Wikipedia because Asim kept plugging Wikipedia for this movie.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And one of the things that I learned is that Appanthe Salman made Jackie learn Urdu for this movie.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And Amanda he was like you need to learn Urdu to properly say Chetan Bhagat's lines.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very important.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just thinking Salman just had this person on speed dial.

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he just had one.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a really good Urdu speaking teacher.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_04]: How do you know?

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_03]: My girlfriend is all with him.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say like imagine if Katrina did this role though.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_04]: How she would have pulled it off.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Like all of the complaints we have about Jacqueline not being a…

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just imagining if I could AI Katrina into Jumme Ki Raat.

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Not that Jacqueline is not doing a good job but Katrina in it?

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God that would be 10 levels up.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't she do it? Is it because they just broke up?

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_04]: No, this was their broke up time.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I'm not sure about what they're doing in 2014.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me pull that up.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah you pull that up.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_04]: In the meantime…

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I did lie because this is also comedy right?

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Was there any sequences that made you laugh?

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have one that made me laugh.

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's a Jacqueline joke.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_04]: She comes in and she says that Shaina auntie and the girl lady goes…

[00:57:48] Shaina auntie.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_06]: That was the only thing…

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Archana Purin sings Shaina to auntie.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Like why are you introducing yourself as an auntie?

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_06]: That was the only funny joke that I thought was that.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I think I wrote that down as well.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_06]: So in 2014 Katrina had just come out of Dhoom Tree and 2014 she had Bang Bang.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_06]: 2014 she had Phantom.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah so they were broken up at that time then.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know their dating timeline to be honest but yeah.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_06]: So I remember one line when the promotions for this movie was released

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_06]: and that was,

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Aap Devil ke Piche Devil Aap ke Piche too much fun.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And the way Salman says it,

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I have too much fun watching that particular line.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_06]: That's amazing.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And I cannot negate the presence of Nawazuddin Siddiqui's hamming in this movie.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it is so…

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I had forgotten that he was in this movie and then he showed up

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was like oh my god yeah that's right.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think he got the most praise from critics at that time.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Like look at him, he's doing this and it didn't work for me at all.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be honest.

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_04]: No no no.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Such a great off pitch performance.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_03]: This has Sonam Kapoor said,

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Iconically coffee with Karan.

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_03]: If you are an ugly person they will give you a critical break.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Nawazuddin Siddiqui on a high at that time right?

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Particularly and he's not in that space anymore.

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_04]: His career is not where it was.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_04]: He was like the next Irfan Khan right?

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah in the big game.

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_04]: At that time and that's not panned out the way it has.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it didn't work for me at all this time.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why they had that character in this film.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_03]: There was no reason for that character to be there.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean there is like the whole Bachi angle and the revenge against them.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It could have been anyone.

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it didn't have to be this evil mastermind who was going around

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_03]: killing children like why?

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_03]: What is that about?

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_06]: There is a lot of what is that about and why in this movie to just pin down Nawaz.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_06]: There is that whole final action sequence that's happening in a den

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_06]: where Nawaz gets thrown into the wall and he gets electrocuted.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That was the only realistic part about this movie

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_04]: because when Salman throws Nawaz,

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: he throws him like 50 meters in the sky

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's like yeah that's realistic.

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_04]: If Salman would throw Nawaz, that's how far he would land.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: But we have not talked about Randi Huda yet.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I have this question about you because the framing,

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: this movie has a framing device right?

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Like this is art right?

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So they're basically talking to each other like there you know

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Julie Delphi and Ethan Hawke before sunrise.

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what it's obviously trying to do right?

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_04]: They're in a training.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Asim you need to explain to the people.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_04]: They meaning Ethan Hawke and Julie Delphi?

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_04]: No he's Randi Huda and Jacqueline.

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So the movie starts when basically she's already sad

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and wearing glasses because they've broken up with Salman right?

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And the glasses show her that she's sad.

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm wearing glasses because I'm sad.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_04]: The father says that you know, Kallu Mama says

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_04]: meet this guy, marry him and you know this and that

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're like on a train journey together

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and then they talk to each other about their previous past.

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_04]: She talks about you know the love she lost in Devi Lalsing

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and then he talks about Devil that he's chasing

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like, what is the timeline of these two stories?

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't figure that out because how long has he been chasing Devil

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and how long has she broken up with?

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Like when did he become this international Dhoom 3 type mastermind

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: where he was doing these massive, massive hides

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and you see it then in the flashback.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I was watching this movie and it was like it was going on

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and on and on and I was like 20 minutes left

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like we still haven't gotten to the point.

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Like when did he become the Devil?

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Why did he become the Devil?

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And all of that is wrapped up in 15 minutes.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Flashback goes is like this little girl Jhumki

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: that was like you know begging for money throughout the movie

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and he had this relationship

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and obviously Salman's whole motivation is to save children

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_04]: because that's Bajrangi Bhai Jaan

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and these parents she has cancer

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and then they just jump off a building

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and leave her in an orphanage.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't understand even who wrote this crap.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the suicide note reads

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_06]: we could not help her whilst we were alive

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_06]: maybe in our deaths she will find help.

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like because Indian society is known for like

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: helping people like little children in the street

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_04]: like I don't I didn't understand what...

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just you know Chaitan Bhagat plot device.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah and I was like

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_06]: or maybe the original cake does that as well I guess.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So then he's basically a Devil

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: because he's gonna first hunt down

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_04]: these five people that made fun of him

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and didn't want to give him funding.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah Amrita you're looking you didn't know that

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like the people that he hustles at the start

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: are the five people that gave him the hundred rupees

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and then also said that you know

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: those are the people that he's...

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: But then he also is going after the election fund

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and Ishan's papa is in charge

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: like there's a lot of things going on there.

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_06]: He then discovers it's not just Chumki

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_06]: there are a lot more children

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_06]: who are going through the same condition

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_06]: of not having enough funding for medical.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a complete surprise to him

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_03]: that there are other children in the world

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: equated with illnesses.

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like yes sir.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Abhito election fund will have to be looted.

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's the most exploitative sequence ever

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: because you have these poor disabled children

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_04]: having to clap hands

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're like shots on their disability

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like oh my god man

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_04]: that's like horrible to be filming it this way you know

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_04]: but that's basically his motivation

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_04]: why he became the devil

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_04]: but they also have this kind of weird bro-mans going on

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Dandipuda and Salman

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I think they have more chemistry than

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_04]: even of them has with Jack Lee to be honest

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: it's really weird

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't put all of those jigsaw puzzles together

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_06]: and I still don't know even with the last frame

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_06]: of them sharing this screen space

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_06]: as quote unquote you know

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_06]: partners in crime you know

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_06]: like both are cops now

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I still don't know whether they are in the same team

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_06]: because Salman

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand the ending of this movie

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I've watched three times now

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I had to read on Wikipedia

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: to understand the meaning of the ending

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: shall I explain it to you

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So basically

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Devi is now such a big scammer

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_04]: that he scammed his way

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_04]: to a police commissioner role

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and Dandipuda knows this

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_04]: but he's not going to tell them because he's been demoted

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's like basically now he's going to show you guys

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_04]: and I did not understand that

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_04]: that was what the movie was trying to tell

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like initially I was like wait

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_04]: he was a cop all along

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_04]: was this like a wanted situation

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and then I was like wait

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: has he become a cop since then

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't understand it

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_04]: like it took me reading Wikipedia to figure it out

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_06]: because it feels like

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_06]: after the final fight

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_06]: and then him becoming the cop

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_06]: that final scene

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_06]: it seems like it's been just mere months

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_06]: in between those

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_06]: and how do you become a cop

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_06]: in months

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: if he's scamming

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: the department

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_04]: how is he scamming it with his real name

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: the name is Devi Lal Singh on the badge

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: it doesn't make any sense

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: so you have to become a cop

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: but then how does this work

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_04]: does this sketch

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: about Ki and Pil

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know when they're planning a bank robbery

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: have you seen that sketch

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: where he's like yeah we're going to get in

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's like no alternative

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: what we can do is we can go to college

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: for four years

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: then we can apply for a job

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: and then every month they're paying us

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: every month we get the money

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: in our bank account

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: he's like wait what

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_04]: that's what I was thinking

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: he became a cop now

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_04]: that's how we can scam the system

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't understand

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_06]: and apparently kick 2

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_06]: is going to be made starting next year

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_03]: once I mean they've been saying this

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: for a long time though

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: they've been saying kick 2

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_03]: before the pandemic

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't see it

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: but maybe

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: someone gets like a

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: hair brand idea again to do this kind of thing

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: it depends

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: if Jacqueline really needs

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: movie or something

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why she's like

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_04]: apparently now in a battle with Nora Fatehi

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: she's singing

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: both are singing now

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_04]: apparently did you see her clip

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: on Instagram

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I mean the

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Nora Fatehi thing is because of that

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that guy that Jacqueline

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: was dating

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_03]: that got sent to jail

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: and apparently he was also

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: quoting Nora at the same time

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Jacqueline got

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: fingered as a suspect in his

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: fraud case

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: and the police arrested her

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: or questioned her or something

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and Nora was also questioned but let go

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: and Jacqueline was like

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: why is Nora allowed to leave

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: where I'm getting jammed up

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and Nora was like you bitch

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: and they both like hate each other now

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: oh that's why she's going after her

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_04]: okay

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: interesting

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean Sujoy you should watch the clip

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: you'll appreciate it

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: what else do we have here

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: what did you think of the songs

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: we talked a bit about the songs but

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of enjoyed them

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I really like it it's a Himesh Reshamiya

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_06]: soundtrack

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I think this is one of the last

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Salman Khan soundtrack

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_06]: which has

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_06]: the trademark

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Salman sound I think

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_06]: we get the tiger theme

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_06]: we get the

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_06]: when someone loves

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and then

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_06]: perhaps or oh oh

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_06]: these are like when Salman appears on

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_06]: screen in a TV

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_06]: show that

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_06]: probably is the music and

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_06]: on Friday night

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_06]: that

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_06]: that's such a soundtrack

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_06]: like that can

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_06]: accompany Salman's

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_06]: off-screen persona

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_06]: and I think that really complements him

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I really enjoyed the hack out of

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Jume Ki Raat but also Yavna Millay

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_06]: with Nargis Fakri

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_06]: is such a bop

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I was playing that all day

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_06]: yesterday

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate the hack out of

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Hangover though

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I liked Hangover

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I was enjoying it

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I also like that

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Jume Ki Raat has the

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_04]: two-shot tali trope

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_04]: oh he's dancing

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: two shots and then like Jaqlil is

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: completely drunk and dancing

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_04]: it's like such a Bollywood

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_04]: party trope speaking of Kallona Ho

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_04]: it had also to do in Tanke Pusco

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_04]: it's like one of those things

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_04]: two shots and now let's party

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_06]: we have not mentioned

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Mitu nor Archana Puran Singh yet

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to briefly mention

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_06]: that one scene where

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_06]: both the son and the father come

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_06]: back home drunk

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_06]: and Archana Puran Singh is trying to pacify

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_06]: them and makes a

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_06]: whiskey peg

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_06]: and she tries to lure Salman to drink

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_06]: the milk by the smell of the whiskey

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_04]: that was just nuts

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_04]: it was hilarious for me

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I gotta say this movie for people

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: that are known to be drunks

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_04]: this movie has really bad

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_04]: drunk acting

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: all of the drunk acting is really bad

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: and again like speaking of Bollywood trope

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: drunk scenes

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: have always been a big part of Bollywood

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_04]: movies right and as like why

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_04]: is Randeep Hoota and Salman not

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_04]: be able to pull off a drunk sequence

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_04]: or with an yeah

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: this is like basic

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: skill set and I don't know why

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_04]: they was like ok ho gya this is good

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and it should have actually come very

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: naturally too

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that's what I'm saying people that are notorious to be known

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: drunks

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: it was a weird one

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: also funny that

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_04]: you know

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: retrograde amnesia was a thing

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_04]: this whole plot point it was like

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: this is two things that they force

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_04]: like in the retrograde amnesia

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: so good that he

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: cheats

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: a Polish

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Indian doctor to give a

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_04]: wrong diagnosis to Jacqueline

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Fernandez who then just

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_04]: takes over the patient and takes her home

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: which is insane

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: to me and then the other one was also this

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: 15 minutes

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_04]: he can act like

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_04]: he's dead for 15 minutes and then

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Salman is like

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_04]: you can die for 15 minutes

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like what

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_04]: if you can fake your death for 15

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: minutes how long do you think I

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_04]: can fake my death I don't know

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know is this a skill set

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_04]: is this some sort of machismo that

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not aware of should I be trading

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: this am I not

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: a man if I cannot fake my own death

[01:11:41] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_06]: one last thing that I would like to mention

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_06]: is

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_06]: you know the character of

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_06]: devil is supposedly

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_06]: carrying off this heist

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_06]: at very specific events

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_06]: and at one point

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_06]: he is supposedly going

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_06]: to carry it out on Eid

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_06]: and that also brings back

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_06]: this being I think it was an Eid release

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_06]: when it came out and that used to be

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_06]: such a thing like the Salman Eid

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_06]: release used to be the annual event of the year

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_06]: for us

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_06]: and obviously that's gone. The pandemic

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: screwed that up too right like that's another thing

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_04]: that the pandemic took away from us is the

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Eid releases with Salman

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know I don't know what's

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd love to like this movie

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: is beloved by people like I said

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing a definite disurgence

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: on my Twitter timeline

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: about this movie like clips and things like that

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: coming back even the ones you sent me

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: about you know those cycle

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_04]: people on a cycle that are

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_04]: that was like the big shot right like that cycle

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: sequence which when you look at it it makes no

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: sense why would you let go of the cycle

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: after the train has passed when you're still in

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_04]: a chase but anyway well he's

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: sauntering off in slow motion right

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_06]: that's the bhai swag man

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: he was doing all of his wheelies on

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: his own like Salman is quite like

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_04]: a heavy fellow like a lot

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_04]: of muscle he's carrying

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_04]: but it made me think of an angry young

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: man where

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_04]: you know Salim is saying oh Salman

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: was doing wheelies on the parapet of

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_04]: the thing I was like that's insane to do that

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: but yeah he still

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: had the skills 10 years ago at least

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah I did when

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_06]: we talked about watching cake

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_06]: when we went to watch you

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Asim mentioned that this movie came out in

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_06]: 2014 and I did not

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_06]: believe that this movie is 10 years old

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_06]: it's nuts

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_06]: this came out in 2014

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah you can see it from the fashion most

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: of the time like the

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_04]: the trouser in

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_04]: boot

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_04]: look was very 2014

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_04]: well it was 2012

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: it came 2014 when Salman's designers

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_04]: finally figured out oh that's a fashion

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_04]: because they're always f**king late

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: it was not a good look guys especially for people

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_04]: with shorter legs

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_04]: it's not something that should be done

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_04]: it's quite horrific but yeah 2014

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_04]: man

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah Amrita

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: no I was just thinking that the whole time

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: that I was watching this film the only thing

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I could remember was do you remember

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Sahil Rizan used to do those

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah the blocky

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_03]: blocky shape

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: these cartoons and I

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: think he did one for cake

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_03]: it must have been one of his last ones

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: but I just remember like

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_03]: reading that laughing my head off

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to say a lot of people still love this

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: movie or love this movie I'd love to hear from them

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_04]: if we were just completely wrong

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't imagine I am because I've watched

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_04]: this movie twice now and

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: every time it's not worked for me

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: but I'd like to hear what you guys

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: if you were like Sujoy in 2014

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: if you still think this is a good movie

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I would love to hear from you

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: drop us an email at

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: upodcasting.gmail.com

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I think this is it for this episode

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: it's enough talk about cake

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I ever want to watch this movie again

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[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: guys did you see the Vijay Farma

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: oh yeah I sent it to you guys

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_04]: oh my god

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_04]: like Karina from Janeja

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_04]: what a star man

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: what a star she is it's crazy

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah check out

[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Vijay Farma's Instagram feed

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_04]: where he shoots a BTS

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_04]: of Janejaan it's amazing

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