395: The speeches, the highlights and the surprises! Our Oscar 2024 recap. With Ryan McQuade (AwardsWatch)

[00:00:00] This is Pop Culture Confidential and I'm Christina Yearlings-Biru.

[00:00:13] In the immortal words of Al Pacino, my eyes see Oppenheimer.

[00:00:18] My guest's eyes have been on Oppenheimer since like what July when he started talking about

[00:00:24] this being a sure thing to win best picture and many of you wanted me to catch up with awards watch Ryan McQuade after last week's prediction episode.

[00:00:33] And here he is, seven Oscars for Oppenheimer, Ryan, how are you doing?

[00:00:39] Ah, B, ah, B, ah, B, I'm really good.

[00:00:47] I may sound low but I'm just tired. I'm meant self by Southwest, but I'm so excited.

[00:00:55] I'm so excited by this. This is the more I thought about this win, the more I'm excited about it and the more I think it's a special winner.

[00:01:07] It really is.

[00:01:08] Tell me what it means that this particular movie, not just for you. I know we make some fun over your adoration for the movie which is quite true.

[00:01:16] But what do we think in sort of film history? What does it mean that Oppenheimer or one best picture and Nolan one?

[00:01:23] I think that, um, well, the reason why I love the film is not just because I, because I do love the film and why I love the win is because I love the film.

[00:01:34] It's because I also love what you're asking the historical context behind this and what this means for the future of cinema.

[00:01:43] This is one of the highest grossing films to ever win best picture. I believe it's like in the top five.

[00:01:50] Um, you're talking about an enormous gamble by Donna Langley in Universal to give Christopher Nolan $100 million to make a three hour one explosion knows CGI walk and talk about the man who came came up with the atomic bomb.

[00:02:10] And so that's an enormous and also while I love Killian Murphy. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that Oscar winner. Killian Murphy.

[00:02:20] Um, he's not a name that's been above the marquee in a big film like this before. Sure he's had picky blinders but you know, it's Netflix. How do you quantify viewership? Right.

[00:02:33] And so you surrounded with an enormous cast, you know, Emily Blunt Oscar nominee, Matt Damian, previous winner, Kenneth Brana, previous winner Gary Oldman, Robbie Malik, Florence Pugh, Josh Hartman,

[00:02:51] and this is a great story. Let's go on and on and on and Robert Downey Jr. Now Oscar winner Robert Downey Jr. And you come up with this movie that then also had to go up against Barbie, which was then the film of the summer and that movie makes a billion and half so you think right?

[00:03:09] Yeah, because movies eat each other alive. It seems like oh well audiences are clearly just going to choose the movie about the doll and the comedy and the easy breezy film of the summer.

[00:03:21] It's not like oh girls, girls want to watch Barbie and guys want to watch Oppenheimer. It's about that's kind of an easier film to digest in the middle of the summer. It's less than it's two hours and you can bring. Yeah, you can have fun.

[00:03:34] It's it's it's it's the perfect summer entertainment. And now he said we can watch both. We can watch it in 70 millimeter, which is an enormous thing for directors and this industry to know that the that theaters will back 70 millimeter screenings 35 millimeter screenings 70 millimeter iMac screenings new lenses were created for the iMacs camera for this.

[00:04:01] So you know that they're all going to be using that. This is a forward moving event in cinema and we need blockbusters and directors to make these kinds of movies and they need to be successes

[00:04:20] and they need to be celebrated if they are these successes because this is a culmination of a man's career, a generational director.

[00:04:31] And that was the most interesting thing about the telecast is the winners reflect a shift I believe that is happening in the academy.

[00:04:42] It's more international. Yes, we've talked about that, but it is admiration for directors that that my generation and maybe people just slightly older than me in their 40s have started to appreciate you talking about Jonathan Glazer, honey, a zaki West Anderson, you know, and Christopher Nolan and then these new voices that they find to be very interesting and provoking new discussion like a core Jefferson or just in tray, you know,

[00:05:10] these or your or your slantimos and so when you look at these people felt like the old guard, I mean, we honor them very much, but it felt like something else at this particular telecast.

[00:05:23] It does and I mean even look at spillboard last year, you know, they there is admiration for them. There's no question about that. There is respect to the highest order.

[00:05:34] But in terms of overwhelming support, if you're putting them up against new exciting forward pushing directors like the Daniels, like Christopher Nolan with his last couple of years, or Bong Junho or Chloe Zhao.

[00:05:58] And you know, you can you can throw in, you know, coded in there. But then you also have Jane Campion who's who's, you know, had a fantastic film that year too.

[00:06:09] But yeah, I think that it's it's a shift. We've wanted a younger academy that's passion based and these wins show passion as well as also undeniable ability in terms of being the best in their field.

[00:06:29] You look at most of these winners. You can't really argue them, like you can be disappointed at some and we'll talk about those obviously for sure. But you can't argue that this might be one of the best crop of winners that we've ever had.

[00:06:44] And that's coming from a year of one of the best years we've had in a very, very long time.

[00:06:50] Yeah, this passion thing I was arguing in that on our last show that I really felt like when I was talking about Godzilla, this passion is shining through and that it will actually win awards that it's a strong thing in this academy.

[00:07:03] But we'll get back to that. I want to hear what you thought of Nolan speech the.

[00:07:07] I mean, I thought it was beautiful. I thought that his whole speech is all your long have had a hint of humor showing aside of him then like we like we talked about in the last episode that people think that he doesn't have but he does have.

[00:07:25] He's not a robot. He's not a monster. You know, I mean, it's got one of these directors that like you hear about having abusive sets all you hear is oh he doesn't have chairs and he doesn't allow cell phones.

[00:07:37] Most people do that. They just don't talk about it. And yet when everyone says all that then go on to talk about 20 minutes later about how much of a genius he is and how much they love working with him and that they would do it again in a heartbeat.

[00:07:53] Case in point Kelly and Mark Feast worked with him for 20 years. And he was the one complaining about the chairs, but that's a luxury right.

[00:08:03] And to be so humble still being very British and saying you know history, you know, film history has been only just let you know less than I'm you know it's a little bit over 100 years old.

[00:08:19] And and to him be a part of the fabric of that in part of this club of winners and be one of the best winners we've had in this category in a very long time.

[00:08:34] Was an enormous thing and to see Steven Spielberg hand him that Oscar.

[00:08:42] If I know the Oscars loved of they love to make a moment and they can blow up in their face easily.

[00:08:52] And I'm sucker for a baton passing from one of the most commercially successful greatest directors of any generation.

[00:09:04] To now the next great commercial successful directors of any generation Christopher Nolan enters a status that's really on his own because there is no other director really like him currently working.

[00:09:23] And look at someone like James Cameron, for example, who's a little bit older but definitely contemporary. He is making Avatar movies the rest of his life and that is where he is content in doing so Spielberg is towards the end of his career.

[00:09:41] Scorsese is at the end of his career Nolan is the most recognizable bankable director in in brand in cinema and whatever he does next you cannot doubt the amount of money you give him for a budget.

[00:09:59] And you can't doubt that it's probably going to make six to seven hundred million dollars for the industry and that's honestly crazy because you have people that they do the kind of trajectory that he's done.

[00:10:14] You look at someone like Denis Villeneuve, for example.

[00:10:19] They'll knew they had a massive flop in Blade Runner 2049 and they've been slowly giving him these these dude movies like they gave them one before they give them the next one.

[00:10:33] So it's not as simple as you know who's going to be the next one because he's kind of just one of a kind.

[00:10:42] I want to shout out that it was lovely to see his wife and producer Emma Thomas get her best picture.

[00:10:50] I think that she has craftively become one of the best producers in business and and she is I made the I made the little joke last episode but I do believe it.

[00:11:04] It's like when you see the photo of him standing behind her and she's the one making the best picture speech and it's it's got nothing to do with him.

[00:11:14] He did not speak a single word. I'm like, oh, so he may be the director but the real pants of the operation.

[00:11:20] The real the real person that's running the opi train is Emma Thomas.

[00:11:24] That's right there.

[00:11:25] She's she's the alma to his Reynolds like he's the artist.

[00:11:29] He's great but like, okay. Yeah, honey.

[00:11:32] I've got this without her nothing happens and it's just so great to like see the admiration of these these two great artists and collaborators but also this this couple.

[00:11:47] And it's an enormous task to make the movies that no one wants to make.

[00:11:52] This is not an easy movie to pull off.

[00:11:56] They don't they don't pull them off every other day.

[00:11:59] And and pull them off to the success that it had here so yeah hats off to her.

[00:12:06] I mean, she she looked elegant.

[00:12:10] The night of the Oscars and it just made me very happy because for for my generation we've seen the names produced by Emma Thomas and Christopher Nolan and directed by Christopher Nolan for years.

[00:12:25] And it to see them celebrated it was very, very special.

[00:12:29] We are going to get into some more things here.

[00:12:32] Best and worst and moments from what I think both think was a pretty good show actually.

[00:12:37] I had a great time.

[00:12:38] I'll encourage you all to listen to awards watch you guys did a really in depth recap of everything but we're going to get into some moments here so besides opi Ryan.

[00:12:49] What was some of your most exciting wins most exciting wins.

[00:12:53] Oh, well, obviously I think my most one of my most exciting wins was.

[00:13:01] Hi, I'm Miyazaki winning his second Oscar for the boy in the hearing.

[00:13:06] I pick Spider-verse.

[00:13:08] I think most of us did just after that PGA win and I really wanted that to happen to one of my five favorite films of the year in a in Miyazaki.

[00:13:20] Whether it is his last film or it's his second the last film or whatever I want.

[00:13:27] I owe Miyazaki to win everything you know, I mean so but yeah, I was I love that.

[00:13:35] I mean the Godzilla minus one.

[00:13:37] Oh, I was thinking of you Christina.

[00:13:39] I was like oh my god.

[00:13:41] Godzilla minus one.

[00:13:42] Passion one.

[00:13:43] I could passion passion.

[00:13:45] I was so happy.

[00:13:46] I love that the speech.

[00:13:48] I mean he was really it was amazing.

[00:13:50] The whole thing did you see their shoes?

[00:13:52] Oh my god, their shoes were incredible like the claws and the little gold Godzilla is up there with them.

[00:13:59] You know, it was it was it was like you know what those are just special wins that you hope that the Academy is cool enough to do.

[00:14:09] Like the zone of interest winning sound.

[00:14:12] Oh, Johnny, but I was so happy for that too.

[00:14:14] It's like the open I'm as amazing sound, but the sound design that they made in in zone of interest is the movie and is what is making us feel what we're feeling in our gut.

[00:14:26] And I was so happy that people had sort of heard the story of their work so that they could realize and actually vote for this.

[00:14:34] Yeah, and they and well that they actually watch the film because if you watch the zone of interest and I love open I'm

[00:14:40] or sound too it's such a big part of that but if you watch the zone of interest and you don't give it best sound.

[00:14:48] I mean good god didn't didn't there's that it goes to down the movie then I mean you didn't get the movie.

[00:14:55] You're down voting all up and I'm or down the down the way then at that point.

[00:15:00] So kudos again I can't believe I keep giving the Academy kudos this week it's been crazy on watching the films and understanding what is the best in those kind of categories.

[00:15:16] How about unexpected wins? What say you about Emma Stone, Lily Gladstone that's a very.

[00:15:26] It wasn't completely unexpected I mean it wasn't completely the race of the actors categories but still I think most of us were leaning Lily Gladstone so.

[00:15:37] I know I was on your podcast and we did our predictions podcast over at a war to watch and I pick Lily Gladstone.

[00:15:51] And I ultimately picked her on the morning but I did tell Sophia Seminilla our associate editor.

[00:16:01] I have the text to prove it and everything I said I know I'm predicting Lily but she's not going to win I said she's just not going to win.

[00:16:12] And Sophia goes why I said I don't think she's got enough not enough screen time not that I think she's supporting like some and I'm sorry Kristina I have to say it.

[00:16:29] A bullshit article out of variety by their awards editor because I think that that.

[00:16:39] Yeah, she should have run for supporting.

[00:16:42] Yes, I mean in terms of divine who's been.

[00:16:47] It would it's it's problematic for both it for many reasons and speaks to the vialness of women of color and how they are looked at and treated upon in this industry.

[00:16:59] From the object standpoint you're then saying one of the biggest celebrated winners of all time in that category would easily be replaced by another woman of color.

[00:17:10] And then assuming another white woman like Margot Robbie would take that place and we would have all five white women in that category.

[00:17:20] It was it was completely in ethical also then you think about category fraud is a known thing for many people.

[00:17:32] But it's never stop male winners like Anthony Hawkins for silence of the lambs winning actor or Timothy Hutton winning supporting actor in ordinary people.

[00:17:44] It's it's throughout the history of the economy.

[00:17:47] And so to say well she should have just gone supporting an issue what I want and we wouldn't have had a problem no because then divine joy ran off wouldn't have had a win.

[00:17:56] So it's it's it's disrespectful in shortsighted and now to the actual win itself.

[00:18:06] It's not surprising it's not surprising because poor things had a very passionate following within the economy.

[00:18:16] The international vote seemed to be big and it's crossover with Bafta in 18 categories I believe across over with Bafta which is an enormous crossover, which is very similar to the 2020 2021 year.

[00:18:35] No manly and or a crossover very similarly and we have this pendulum swing now back and forth between Bafta in sag and the guilds then also it just means to that sometimes that's just where the passion lies.

[00:18:51] It doesn't have to be just well if Bafta went with it then that means that that's how it goes because that didn't matter last year with everything everywhere all at once.

[00:18:59] But to the actress race specifically I think that while I love Lily Gladstone's performance and I think it should have won because sometimes my favorite performance in the category does not mean the one I think should win because I do think historical reference in thinking back on the year is very important in a moment matters.

[00:19:26] I think it does to some voters too.

[00:19:29] But I do think that the criticisms of killers of the flower moon its screenplay its criticisms by some of having too much focus on Leonardo DiCaprio's character having to not enough focus on her and the osage and the film's length and inaccessibility my others.

[00:19:51] I think that's what really caused it to be Emma's a movie that she produced and put together and people seem to really respond and it's a very good performance by an actress that is very beloved.

[00:20:08] She is she is now too oscars very much so and a kind of also another performance to that if you're an actor.

[00:20:19] You might want to do I mean you might want to do some rewrites on it for me like you know you might want to change things up.

[00:20:28] It's some of the messaging it's a little you get a little monoled I would have you know maybe another actress puts a maybe a female writer in there for some perspective on that film for sure.

[00:20:41] But but I think the same thing could be said for killers of the flower moon.

[00:20:47] But yeah is it is it a bad win I wouldn't call it a horrible win in terms of the performance, but in terms of is it deflating to see that moment for lily glotsstone you know not happened absolutely.

[00:21:10] And so it is the kind of realization at the end of the night as a wildest academy like I said is changing and being different.

[00:21:19] This category continues to be a problem because women of color to always come up short and my did did feel stunned and humbled and she did not look like she was going to win that I clearly think she thought lily glotsstone was winning that answer.

[00:21:35] And so I think that that's I'm happy for her but I do think she was done.

[00:21:45] Oh for sure I think that she she had told Kyle Buchanan of the New York Times before the ceremony when he caught up with that she wasn't going to win.

[00:21:56] I think she means it.

[00:22:01] I think between her reaction at sag for lily her reaction in moment to lily in her speech as well as over a critics choice like I think she understood more than others just like just like capelin cheted with Michelle you last year.

[00:22:25] She understood that this win is more than about her you know me and that.

[00:22:34] You can't take Bella back to away from her you know I mean she's had that experience and I think she sees that it's just like wow and also I have one you know that's easy position for somebody to be in if they already have one and I think yeah I.

[00:22:52] It didn't it didn't seem like I mean she was very gracious and accepting of it and everything and she tried to put a speech together as quickly as possible.

[00:23:02] It looked like she was absolutely son and and shaken by when she's trying to get up out of receipt it's it's it's it was like watching Oppenheimer in the gym you know.

[00:23:14] And she's like dresses and everything so what did you find like the funniest of the evening.

[00:23:22] Oh the funniest moment of the evening there were two moments that I thought were the funniest and had nothing to do with Jimmy Kimmel and we'll talk about that later.

[00:23:30] I thought the exchange between Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt about the barb the barb andheimer crossover fall guy crossover was absolutely hysterical because it is actually pointed a lot towards online culture and trying to make this rivalry between these filmmakers and these people that have worked together and love each other.

[00:23:59] And have been very gracious to one another and trying to pit this almost sexist rivalry between the type of two films that it is.

[00:24:09] So like you know if people said like Oppenheimer is boring and barbie's fun it's like well what the fuck does that even mean.

[00:24:17] You know I mean like you know both are fun interesting and provocative in and in entertaining in their own ways.

[00:24:26] And audiences both you know went to both and but yet in an award season Emily Blunt joke was kind of what I've been saying which was like you had your fun at the box office but it's really not been a rivalry in the ords race which is very true like every time barbie.

[00:24:46] Every time barbie's gone up against Oppenheimer it's lost everything because it was nominated in an original song of course like you know be interesting original song if you know if it was if they had made one.

[00:25:07] But yeah and then Gosling going back about like winning the box office and everything and writing their co-tales which they did help each other and that's okay to and that's.

[00:25:18] It's okay to say that yeah it helps being a part of maybe one of the biggest box office events of our lifetime like yeah and so I thought that was funny I want to mention Arnold and Danny DeVito oh that was really good.

[00:25:34] So funny and Michael Keaton and all those sort of Batman jokes if they did they did that really well and John Cena yeah John Cena showing all of John Cena all of them at least enough that you can have on ABC.

[00:25:48] And then speaking of John's John Malini doing the sound if there ever was an audition for the next Oscar host it was right there John Malini would kill the other.

[00:26:03] Kill the Oscars if he was the host you so good and he's been doing the Indus spirit awards and everyone's been talking about how good he is and now this audition sealed the deal.

[00:26:15] And he did the governor of the wards right this earlier this year I mean to make a joke about the absurd plot of field of dreams and it work that somebody that clearly does show that they love movies would watch the movies.

[00:26:32] And wouldn't make like a nobody watch these kind of jokes as well you know.

[00:26:37] You know how many people I saw on Twitter that went and watched field of dreams today like the good.

[00:26:44] Good it's a good it's a good movie it's a wild movie and it's a movie of its time but it's still a really good movie in terms of funny speeches I thought that Robert Downies beginning of his speech that he thanked his terrible childhood was really funny.

[00:27:00] I thought that he would be a bit more sentimental in his speech which he wasn't really I mean it was a good speech but it wasn't what I was expecting.

[00:27:10] It was it was very disappointing it was probably my most disappointing speech of the night because I was ex we were all kind of expecting him to go out of the show but it was a weird night for him in general you have

[00:27:28] you have the presentation of the five winners come out and Sam Rockwell does like a quote from Tropic Thunder which is like okay I don't know if I want to hear about Tropic Thunder.

[00:27:41] You know and but he did a good job at presenting him Tim Robbins goes up there in Flubs and basically says like Robert De Niro should win right before which is whether that's true or not because I would vote for De Niro if I had an opportunity.

[00:27:57] I'm not going to go out of these five you don't tilt your hand up there and it's rude if De Niro doesn't win which he wasn't everybody knew down he was going to win so it's like so then down he has to go out there and be like yeah great great job guys set the one Flub like you know it's not like you want to get your Oscar in your moment and somebody went up on that stage and said you don't deserve it.

[00:28:21] I really like those five legends presenting the new I mean I worked really well but that particular I mean Nicholas Cage was like one of the best things of the evening.

[00:28:31] Thank you so the the Rita Marano something happened here yeah this was just what happens when you have Tim Robbins I guess you know go and row but just read from a prompt or it's it's really easy case but yeah I mean

[00:28:50] Kimmel's monologue I know you know we'll talk about Kimmel more later but he went after Downey and made light or brought up his drug addiction in his past and and down basically going like it's on the nose and then Kimmel doubling down yeah on it being like is that an on the nose reference or is it like drug reference

[00:29:18] and he's just like let's keep this going in everything it was a little disrespectful um but don't you think is the people that I mean there's a way of doing that for sure.

[00:29:34] That's a way you can talk about it but I wouldn't want the Oscar hosts in their monologue bringing up my drug addicted past and making light of it in jokes it didn't seem like it played well in the room.

[00:29:47] And it didn't play well and I was watching it it just seemed not I wouldn't say mean spirit but just misguided and it's supposed to be a night where we're celebrating one of the biggest stars in Hollywood and we didn't hear you know Brad Pitt has allegations of being abusive to his to his wife ex wife Angelina Jolie nobody brought that up on the stage that night of course I don't think we had an Oscar host.

[00:30:16] You know Casey Affleck the year that Manchester by the sea was a Kimmel was there as a host he didn't bring up that and so it's I don't know not trying to sound over a protective of Robert I junior he's a big boy but that's not the time or place.

[00:30:32] The Oscars are not a time or place to bring that up at all and if anybody thinks that that is then they need to about wait themselves.

[00:30:41] I think this affected his speech.

[00:30:43] I don't think it affected his speech but I think it just provided then a weird night for him because you look at somebody like Dave I enjoy Randolph the way that she was talked about throughout the entire telecast it was flawless her speech was incredible.

[00:31:01] She did come with the paper that you were talking she finally put down the paper and came from the soul and when she did it was a beautiful moment it made me almost cry.

[00:31:13] And it made her cry when Lupita brought up her grandmother the glasses that she wore in the film or her grandmother's glasses.

[00:31:22] That is the kind of shit I've been wanting all season from these winners and especially her if she's this monumental sweeper let's have some emotion let's have some retrospective let's see what this means to you.

[00:31:37] And when she talked in that speech I my heart broke all over again and I was like there she is sobbing I would Paul Giannani was sobbing with his in an out burger cuff links like it was like it was.

[00:31:51] It was a perfect moment but for downy it was it was it was just weird and and then yeah I mean he didn't maybe he should have prepared something but he wasn't going to obviously because it's like season is over I want I can do whatever I want.

[00:32:05] He you know him not I think that the thing we're all disappointed is him not really acknowledging his father and not acknowledging quite the opposite of the entire childhood yeah.

[00:32:19] I know that that's an off-handed joke but like if you want senior he clearly has so much admiration for his father and then he didn't bring him up this entire season.

[00:32:31] You know I think that that's what we want but then also we have to remember that people just don't do that no and it's their speeches but it was but of the five actors it was the four actors it was the most underwhelming.

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[00:33:19] What about terms of like important or I mean not important it's not the right word but political or yeah like yeah actually think that the speech of the night Christine is Jonathan Glaser speech for the zone of interest I know that there are a ton of people Holocaust survivors.

[00:33:38] You know members of Jewish organizations people that identify as Zionists who are angry and upset by they have every right to be because if that's what they want to believe I don't I don't agree with their political stance on this matter but I know it's a very delicate one is a very you know it's also religious stance as well too.

[00:34:06] But as far as I understand great Britain has freedom of speech the United Kingdom has freedom of speech this country has freedom of speech there were protesters in the street before the cost of Oscars to be late because they were protesting about the ongoing genocide that's happening.

[00:34:26] The killing of innocent people on both sides on both sides in this issue that needs to be resolved.

[00:34:34] I do not believe that it is the Oscars responsibility to resolve these matters this is for the president of the United States and leaders around the world to resolve these matters so I do think though on the other side to to blame people that have really nothing to do with it you know I mean my Christopher Nolan has no you know Emma Stone.

[00:35:00] You know hilly and Murphy these people don't have anything to do with this now they can use their platform to promote and hopefully get changed done but they're not the cause of this issue this has been an issue that is long before you and I have even been born Christina.

[00:35:20] But I thought it was a powerful message to send it was very reminded me not that it is the same not to make apples to apples and say that it's sort of the same thing but it reminded me of when I was growing up in the Dixie Chicks denounced president Bush for his involvement in the Iraq war in Afghanistan our response to 9-11

[00:35:48] and how they felt ashamed by the actions of what we were doing killing innocent people in the backlash to that was very similar you know well their backlash was worse because they were women you know in an industry that's predominantly men and conservative.

[00:36:08] I think glazer was brave in saying what he said it was necessary to say what he said to reflect on a movie that is about a genocide and talk about the genocide that is going on now I thought that was quite beautiful and shame on the academy for not having an on their platform.

[00:36:28] If you want to block comments you can do that but it should be on the platform on YouTube for everyone to see and I think the other speech that was very powerful was the 20 days in Miracle speech of an issue that's been going on for over a year and you had no volume in the memoriam.

[00:36:47] This is this is an ongoing thing that's what I thought.

[00:36:53] I thought both brought vitalness and necessary you know look into our issues that are really facing us right now beyond just the frivolous fun that the Oscars can have it can be a place where moments you can change people's lives if said the right way and done the right way.

[00:37:20] And so I thought that the speeches were incredible and I do not think they were controversial I think that they were necessary needed to be said.

[00:37:28] Everything is controversial I mean it's like I know you can't agree on anything nowadays but but like that that is clearly you know not the problem.

[00:37:38] But moving on to best moves I mean of course I'm just can was amazing I have watched that at least six or seven times you mean Marty score says it did you see how.

[00:37:49] I think he was watching that and there's this clip on Twitter that's just amazing his daughter Francesca has been the life.

[00:37:58] Savor of my life I mean she has just brought Marty into the into the 21st century and it just him dancing to I'm just can in having a fucking ball he's just everyone.

[00:38:11] Everyone runs Chris has he's just like us okay and no gocins commit to the bit it was extraordinary it.

[00:38:21] It is honestly okay.

[00:38:25] Oppenheimer on the Oscars but once again Barbie's right there and having maybe the most memorable moments of the night.

[00:38:33] I mean there's as much as you know like I think Robert Downey Jr. speech has been seen 1.2 million times the most of any speech.

[00:38:47] I'm just can has been streamed on you to 1.3 million you know what I mean so it's it's wild and.

[00:38:56] The references to gentleman prefer bonds and and and Madonna and it just it that's what we want Christina we want to see them embrace history and movies and fun and.

[00:39:14] It felt like an extension of great a girl with movie and to see her with America and Margo in the front like singing like it's a rock concert and Emma stone singing and and you see the opera and cruise into it and Marty's into it like holy shit like you couldn't have asked for a better moment and.

[00:39:34] The other thing that it proved.

[00:39:37] Is that if Ryan got I'm going to say this now there's a bull prediction but the next time Ryan got things nominated I think he's going to win that Oscar like this was the whole like yeah you did the comedic performance and people love to know everything but.

[00:39:49] People are going to remember that dammit this man is one of our finest talents we have in Hollywood and he showcased perfectly.

[00:40:00] People threat yes I mean to have the other kids up there slash like Mark ronson all of us all so good so good but one of the craziest moments of the night was patchy no announcing best picture.

[00:40:17] I see up and I'm you know I mean it's like I see up and I'm a I see up and I'm you know it was like.

[00:40:27] I've read that it played it didn't play over well in the room you know what is supposed to say the 10 nominees or was he.

[00:40:37] From my understanding you're reading it which also like people are making this out to be like a claw landed moonlight to it's like count down people he just he's an all he's in his eighties said it the way he said it we all knew I'm not going to win there's no like shock to it I think people wanted just like the 10 nominees said and.

[00:40:56] In the Oscar goes to Oppenheimer also has a new baby is been up all yeah he's been up all night you know I mean like cut out some slack.

[00:41:04] But any also wasn't supposed to be a loma was supposed to have Michelle five for up there to and I guess she got sick or something.

[00:41:13] But no I think that he went up there that's how they wanted him to do it they did they didn't you know because they did it with Ariana Grande in original song they didn't announce the nominees there they just went right into in the winter is belly Irish and I was kind of like whoa the we're not we're not okay that was a little weird.

[00:41:32] Her to played weird in the audience like there was a half a second they people were like.

[00:41:37] It's did up and I'm just when and then they realized it and they didn't they got on the stage and it was over and it was and good for out to show the card to screen and everybody saw it and that's when people are like oh it is up and I'm so like good for them.

[00:42:00] I'm not having another producer come up and show it so thing I think I was being overblown but at the end of the day you know it's how it's how Pacino like I'm not going to get mad at

[00:42:14] you know like you want to get mad at up but you know go kick rocks one of the worst moments for me was the in memoriam which I thought was really badly produced and completely just didn't work especially for the viewing audience with dancers and

[00:42:33] musicians and really small text and are we looking here we're looking there and just not emotional at all and also then all of a sudden Andrea but Shelley and his son and we're like what are we looking at you.

[00:42:46] We supposed to feel that was not I don't understand why they keep doing that.

[00:42:51] I think that it should just be instrumental instrumental you have an art.

[00:42:56] For screen and we should full screen I just want to see listen it's an in memoriam don't overthink it put the fallen people the departed up on.

[00:43:08] That passed in the last year or since we've done the last Oscars put them up on the screen maybe if you want to be creative Christina.

[00:43:20] Play a track or two.

[00:43:23] Of somber music from one of the nominees like play attract from past lives.

[00:43:32] On the score that was not nominated you know but let's say let's say you play you know something from.

[00:43:39] I don't know what i'm not up and I'm because that's too crazy but like you know what I mean like play a score that somber people might know.

[00:43:49] It doesn't have to be you know like a pop song that you turn instrumental just do some quiet music don't have a singer come up on the stage doesn't need a song to be done.

[00:44:01] You don't need to it's not a performance it's an immemorial for Christ sake.

[00:44:05] People died people died like come on when they when they've edited a line or two of something that they say the actor you know if it's an actor that they're talking about you know work with the montage don't work with what's happening on stage.

[00:44:18] Yeah and don't forget.

[00:44:22] People they always forget people and it's like.

[00:44:26] Like what are you doing like Lance reddick very popular actor.

[00:44:31] It wasn't even in the montage there was a bunch of people that weren't in the montage famous people not just actors in their crafts were like.

[00:44:39] What the hell happened there so yeah it was a complete.

[00:44:44] It was the one aspect I think of the night that well it was one of two aspects on the night that I did not think worked well the other.

[00:44:55] Is the host is Jimmy Kimmel I thought he was very increased control most of night I don't think all his dad jokes worked as much as he wanted him to they kind of got a little tiresome.

[00:45:11] It didn't feel like Jimmy Kimmel I feel like just a guy there's you know going through the motions I don't think his monologue was particularly good like I said.

[00:45:18] Portia Nevada thought was mean spirited toward the proper day junior some of the jokes were a little all over the place it just didn't have you know he he had taken a year off last year or a couple years from.

[00:45:30] Doing you know his back to back run from the shape of water year in the in the moonlight year.

[00:45:36] And so it felt kind of fresh and good to have him back last year and obviously post the slap you know he had to comment on that and that was that was good.

[00:45:47] He didn't really have any in at this year he any he just had the movies and so I thought I was a little there's a little less to be desired I did like his.

[00:45:58] Evidently controversial again is the other word statement about a Trump said he was bad and and that the producer told him don't do it but it's like.

[00:46:10] If you know anything about Jimmy Kimmel that's he's going to do that like there's no way he's not going to do that and he needed to do it yeah and so.

[00:46:21] So yeah I i'm going to do it I thought he was going for me that's this old feeling I used to have with like a Billy crystal or someone who you feel like he's going to.

[00:46:34] Drive this bus and keep us safe and and be able to react to anything that happens and I also I mean it wasn't a perfect monologue but I laughed quite a few times and I thought his interstitials between work so for me he worked and I'm.

[00:46:50] Thought the Trump thing was great yeah no I think that it's it's.

[00:46:56] I think that he's just reliable but he's not going to push the needle and.

[00:47:05] No he doesn't push it all too much and no hopefully if he does it again now we want John Daniel course but if he does it again push it a bit more but I still am happy with him is I like a reliable host after.

[00:47:18] I think that I mean yeah the Amy Schumer Regina King want to psych she or it was just a miscalculation for sure but no I I genuinely do like him I was just a little disappointed you know because I think people do dog on him but.

[00:47:38] I think if they did dog on him a little this year it's kind of justified but but also yeah I mean like.

[00:47:48] I would just like like let's have Malini do it one year you know let's have a lady do it next year because it clearly seems like he wants to do it and is perfect for it and then yeah and then you can bring him back give him give him a break because Billy didn't do it every year he had will be you know there was there Steve Martin there was there was you know.

[00:48:07] You know David Letterman there are other people that did it you know in between you know I mean all right take us out let's go to the last thing here best dressed.

[00:48:17] Oh you want to do best dress okay well who do you will who do you have on your list one for me number one or the Godzilla shoes on the VFX for good.

[00:48:27] I mean if you haven't seen them they're all over social media so you just have to look that up the whole crew had these fabulous shoes Coleman Domingo looked fabulous he was a bit more sub two than we thought he would be I mean he was actually in a black tux but I mean he just looked amazing yeah who else I'm not sure about Emily Blunt's I'm going to say that straps that were sort of that wasn't the problem I had that wasn't the problem I had with the dress.

[00:48:57] No you didn't like the jock strap thingy yeah what look like panties like it was like what the fuck like I mean it was it was there was it was like yeah and I was like I was like oh Emily.

[00:49:12] You just first of all she looked at she was in a brace you know like who has in exactly she did like the brace with this man if air if I was to sit there I was like this is just ammo for Eric to continue to just beat her up.

[00:49:26] The season and she earned it this time there's no no there's no defending that dress.

[00:49:33] And I thought like I did not like either.

[00:49:36] No I didn't people are going to get mad at me for saying I didn't like Margot's dress I thought she would go with something more Barbie last go around adjacent and it was just a kind of like almost like what

[00:49:52] it was like a plum and almost look like and it was just really subdued and I was kind of I don't know I was going to bum about that but I thought red yeah

[00:50:03] yeah.

[00:50:04] Reddick or wig looked fantastic.

[00:50:07] I mean obviously Greta Lee looked fantastic you know I did like Emma's dress I really loved Lily Gladstone's dress too I thought

[00:50:18] that they looked fantastic.

[00:50:21] Divine looked fabulous and I did like America's pink dress you know and so I thought that they look good on Bradley Cooper Ryan Gosling boys I love you it's the

[00:50:37] looking or downy to guys it's the Oscars put on a tie put on a tie.

[00:50:44] He looked so casual next to him.

[00:50:46] Bradley looked okay if there's any shade to be thrown at Bradley Cooper.

[00:50:52] Oh not enough has been thrown this season is what you're saying everybody's standing for Killian Murphy speech get your ass up there and

[00:51:01] I know your mom's there he did not stand carry did everybody else did Bradley was like I'm not look he was talking with this mom and it's like dude stand up you

[00:51:14] know I mean because you would want it if it was the other way or Killian would do it if it was the other way around so don't be don't don't be like that you

[00:51:23] know sweat your 12 time loser you know I mean you want to be 12 time plus a win later down the road below gracious you know I know you had

[00:51:33] Abbott Elementary after the show but like come on now like that was yeah and I just think I like where a tie a tie is not going to hurt you

[00:51:43] even if it's just like an adjustable one you can do it like it's easy it's easy guys you know all right on a scale of one to five Oscars what do you give the telecasts

[00:51:54] I probably know about four and a half I think it's like a really good show no telecast will be perfect because like you know there were some

[00:52:03] some flubs and overall was early you know it did came in early I like the time adjustment got to say somebody

[00:52:15] in Citroe Standard Time in the United States it was nice to be done by like 930 and and have the Oscar

[00:52:22] the podcast done by 11 and then I can go to bed like it's supposed to be up at like 2 3 4 o'clock in the morning so that was nice but yeah no I was I was I thought that

[00:52:38] overall the whole thing felt like a celebration of movies and that's what you can't that's what you really want when it comes down to you want a celebration you want

[00:52:49] you want the movies to hit you and impact you and so I was a great year movies and I think it in it and in doing so it had a very good Oscars to go alongside it.

[00:53:02] I was really happy to agree and that it all embodied in that in those pictures of Marty dancing to Ryan Gosling and that

[00:53:10] I mean that's the picture of the night so I'm going to leave you with one last question Ryan our great predictor what is the next

[00:53:18] years film that you will see this summer or whenever that you're going to be predicting as best picture come on.

[00:53:26] I'm putting me on a year.

[00:53:28] Yeah, forward prediction.

[00:53:31] Oh my God.

[00:53:33] I mean,

[00:53:36] shit, Christina.

[00:53:39] I would be more.

[00:53:41] No.

[00:53:43] We have to see if that's even good.

[00:53:47] I will go safe here and I will say Blitz by Steve McQueen because the problem with this season is we don't know what's coming out yet in the movies.

[00:54:00] I mean,

[00:54:02] the problem really is that we're going to see some effects of the strikes and there might potentially be another strike a nest these are necessary strikes to folks just putting them out there like it was

[00:54:14] necessarily we had the WGA and the Sac Strike IOT will probably strike this summer as well and those are necessary.

[00:54:22] But that caused movies productions to stop and get delayed and so movies that are being filmed right now if they get turned around and edited.

[00:54:35] Well, they get done like I mean Paul Thomas Anderson's literally working on a movie right now that's why Leo was not at the Oscars.

[00:54:42] And if you notice that and so I don't know if that had come out but that does also feel like a director that hasn't gotten there do and that's somebody to keep an eye out for.

[00:54:55] You know Mickey 17.

[00:54:57] You know,

[00:55:00] I don't know about you know, Bongo be back sometime this later this year.

[00:55:04] There's always the international films I get this time last year we did not know about anatomy of a fall we do a little bit about.

[00:55:09] Zone of interest but we you know we didn't know about Godzilla minus one and you know in the you know.

[00:55:16] But we knew about an also to about the boy in the heron so yeah I'm going to go with Blitz because see the Queen's a former winner and social Ronan and I think that it's a movie would all been very much anticipating.

[00:55:32] And we thought it was going to come out last year and it didn't is coming up this year.

[00:55:36] So that's what I'll put my money on so you put me on the spot but I'm not confident in that yeah I'm not confident in that I did not think I was winning in March of last year but but July yes for sure.

[00:55:50] And we'll see how the race unfolds but for now everybody can sleep and not have to talk about Oscars for six months you know will be following it together thanks so much for jumping on I know that you've had both Oscars shows as well as your in South by Southwest and having so much to thanks again for joining me.

[00:56:09] Absolutely absolutely in one last time if I if I can't Christina.

[00:56:15] Thank you.

[00:56:23] Thank you Christina.