Ep 238- Questions from our Patreon

[00:00:00] Hi, this is Asim. This is Sujoy. This is Amrita. And you're listening to Khandaan, a Bollywood podcast about the three main Khans of the Hindi film industry, Amir, Salman and Shahrukh.

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[00:00:39] Every dollar goes towards creating more and better content. Visit us at patreon.com.com. How do Pakistanis make money, man? They don't release anywhere. They don't like, you know, like unless they sell it to Zindagi, like, you know, like what, what else are they doing?

[00:01:00] They've been sitting on freaking Mola Jet for so long. No, I'm so pissed. As you can see at the state of the Pakistani economy, we do not make money. Nobody makes money except if you're one of the Nawaz Sharif's and the Burdus.

[00:01:17] And then you hoard the money. And that's it. Like two families are making money and the army is nobody else's. Everybody else is in jail. Chuckie Pee Singh. Chuckie Pee Singh and Pee Singh. Pee Singh and Pee Singh. That's what's happening.

[00:01:31] Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think we're talking about Barzakh. I've started recording by the way. But we're going to talk about it more when the trailer drops, which is imminently. But I thought the artwork looks really great.

[00:01:45] Remember artwork? Like we are talking about the artwork that is Fawad Khan. Sana Saeed is also a piece of art. I saw a teaser where it's just like a line of dialogue that Fawad is saying, like it's just like a poster with like you can hear him say.

[00:02:04] And I was like, that is just such a beautiful voice. Like why? Why doesn't he use it more often in like paid work so that we can watch it? Fawad Khan is the Pakistani economy. He doesn't work. He doesn't get paid.

[00:02:25] Yeah, actually, funnily enough, there was also a Pakistani movie that dropped this last week. I think Umno Ayar. I think one of the questions was about that. If we'd watch the trailer, I don't think you guys have watched the trailer.

[00:02:36] I'm not the trailer. To me, it looked like a bit of low budget sci-fi kind of thing, a bit like Kalki, what's going on there?

[00:02:43] And it didn't appeal to me. But then I saw that there's a bit of a push coming from the Pakistani as media as like this is the release of the of Eid.

[00:02:53] But again, like they do such a shit job marketing that I didn't know which cinema I was playing in. I was speaking with Sujoy and he's like, we have to go to Bradford to watch it.

[00:03:04] There are no movies good enough to go to Bradford to watch, you know, You wire ref promotion joke. Yeah, so such a bad promotion job that it's as bad as wiref.

[00:03:18] Yeah, dude, for Pakistan standards like why we would take wiref you know that's how bad it is. So it's like a lot of these movies like I wanted to watch Mahira Superstar.

[00:03:29] It's literally nowhere to be seen. I don't know how to watch that thing, you know, and there's so many so I'm just glad. However, like Barzakh, we weren't even sure this was going to get released. Remember we talked about it a couple of weeks ago.

[00:03:41] And we're like, is this even dropping some really happy and it feels like only Asim Abbasi is doing the promotion on him on his own in his Twitter account. So yeah, we're all excited as him come talk to this as him. Let's talk about it.

[00:03:55] I'm going to drop him a message see if he wants to come on the podcast and talk to us. But what I was going to say, I remember when the first trailer or the teaser for cake dropped.

[00:04:05] And I was just blown away by the visuals, you know, and that was literally his first movie. And he didn't have a budget. And now he does clearly right he has actors he has a budget so I'm really impressed on what he can do with this.

[00:04:19] I'm really really excited. Did you ever watch cake Amrita? I did. I know I never got around to watching it. Where is it even playing? Like I don't even know where to find it.

[00:04:28] It was on Netflix for the longest time but I'm not sure if it is anymore. Yeah, I suggest trying to find it and watch it. It's really really good.

[00:04:37] And I think at that time when it came out a lot of people were comparing it too much with with the Kapoor and sons. Yeah. And I even remember asking Asim Abbasi that question when I interviewed him.

[00:04:50] And there's literally nothing like when you have that space where you're not thinking about Kapoor and sons anymore and you watch cake. It's such an interesting movie to watch. I really recommend it. If you can watch it or find it, watch cake before Barzakh.

[00:05:05] I remember like when it came out and like I was just really like I really really wanted to watch it and then I just couldn't find it. So if it's still on Netflix, I'm definitely gonna watch it.

[00:05:16] By the way, let's let's do this because we I have a little read in front of it for the people that don't know what Barzakh means in Arabic. It means obstacle hindrance or separation and Islam it denotes a place separating the living from the hereafter.

[00:05:30] So like kind of like purgatory, I guess right? So I think a lot of people don't even know so I thought you know I do like something good like people know what Barzakh actually means. And it's with the epic, epic loudest Barzakh.

[00:05:48] Shall we get into some of the cool questions we got from our cool cool Patreons? And the things that they sent in a few of these might be repetitions from for old time listeners.

[00:06:00] But I think we get so many new listeners to so it's kind of cool to kind of you know talk about these some of these things again. I sent you these questions, I think or did you read the question you probably all didn't. So let's start a fresh.

[00:06:18] These are all new surprises for us. Yes. So I just go through them one by one. This is the first question is from Shreya. I love listening to you guys. I've been avid listeners since 2020. So four years already. Wow.

[00:06:36] What are your top three all time movies, the ones you keep going back to? I know it's an evolving list, but I would like to know which ones even make the list.

[00:06:46] Shall I give you a minute to think about this since you haven't thought and read these questions before or are you able to just kind of like top of the head? I mean, are we talking Bollywood or overall? Yeah. Whatever you want.

[00:06:59] I think let's do both if you want. Let's combine them if you want. What are like your top? I think I'm going on. Yeah, I was just gonna say like I think the ones that you rewatch the most which are the ones that you know, I have 30 minutes.

[00:07:13] Let's watch this. Are there any of these or you just not rewatch people? Yeah, I mean the more and like over the last couple of years I've rewatched less and less because I want to spend more time watching your content and so much new content.

[00:07:28] I agree with you. I have this pressure where I was like it comes from the podcast to be honest. Yeah, but I'm like, okay if I watch something new I can talk about it on the show.

[00:07:40] But you know if I watch something old and I've something I've seen so I like I was talking about tigers in the head Tiger three the other day and I kind of want to rewatch that movie.

[00:07:50] But I'm like I just reviewed it so I won't be able to use it. So yeah, it does. It comes to like rewatching stuff I watched like 30 minutes 15 minutes here and there clips on YouTube, whatever. Never the whole thing unless we are rewatching it for the episode.

[00:08:07] But other than that like easy watches which I can just switch on and watch like 15 minutes 20 minutes of it.

[00:08:15] So when it comes to Bollywood would be something like Jabri met the first few scenes of that movie is just joy towards like Karina, you know bring Geethe to life.

[00:08:26] And as up now the entire movie like pick any 15 minute segment from that movie is just always so much joy and so much like unhinged laughter for me like the madness of Rajkumar Santoshi in that movie and how those. Yeah, those actors we I think we should redo.

[00:08:45] I've said this to us and I think we should redo on does up now as an episode because when we recorded it it was the early days of the podcast and I think rewatching it's time for you watch I think you know.

[00:08:57] And like show lay perhaps a Mara Burr Anthony like bits and pieces of those movies like all the masala be bits you know. All like Kadir Khan dialogues from Doolhae Raja and all of that like I live for that.

[00:09:15] Hollywood, I think every see every year I do some sort of a rewatch of Empire Strikes Back or one of the Star Wars movies terminated to I love love love that movie and fifth element I religiously rewatch that movie every year. Amrita.

[00:09:34] Again, just like so joy I don't really sit down to rewatch entire movies anymore because I just don't have the time. But I would say like just off the top of my head like sound of music.

[00:09:49] Like I've been watching that movie since I was like three years old and I'll like watch it until the day I die like I just if I just want to watch something comforting then that's what I watch.

[00:10:01] I also watch like a different like parts of the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

[00:10:09] That's like always in constant repeat like I always have clips going and I also like to watch like old Rishikesh Mukherjee once you know like chubke chubke me like the usually the ones with like Amitabh Bachchan actually more than like say your Anand. Or like any of those.

[00:10:33] I love the ones with like Amitabh Bachchan and Jayabhadri and like like those are like my comfort ones like especially Millie and chubke chubke those are like two of my favorites.

[00:10:45] And I'll just like watch like clips and sometimes I'll just watch because we're you know like we're just Hindi film viewers you know so there's always songs.

[00:10:56] So like for example I ended up making Asim watch Chaltika Namgadi because I rewatched like the songs from that movie all the time. Like all the time. I love them and it's quite good. He's quite good.

[00:11:16] I will never forget till the end of time like you know the expression on both Asim and his wife's face as they sat through and going like why is Amrita making us watch this.

[00:11:29] You know I've been podcasting podcasting this recommendation people ask me for recommendations all the time my recommendations are like minus 10 compared to Amrita's recommendation which are plus 100 for my wife.

[00:11:46] So if Amrita suggests something my wife is watching it whichever version it is in no subtitles my wife will watch it and she's quite good. I recommended it. Sorry you froze Amrita. Yeah yeah yeah this came back. Okay never mind go on. What about you Asim?

[00:12:08] Before I get into my list I want to ask you about TV shows are there any comfort watch TV shows that you guys have that you because I think you have more time to rewatch a show and I have a rotation

[00:12:21] because a lot of the TV shows we I watch with my wife so it needs to be something quick snappy and funny and light.

[00:12:28] So I have a rotation that we always go back to so at the moment we're rewatching New Girl but we have Parks and Recs we have the office we have community arrested development.

[00:12:41] We used to have how I met your mother but that has aged so badly I cannot sit through it anymore.

[00:12:48] So we kind of constantly rotate these five shows and I personally also have two shows that are one is called the league which I find hilarious and it's always sunny in Philadelphia and I kind of add those always in my iteration and I just keep going back and forth back and forth.

[00:13:04] Are there any shows for you like that? Yes so I will rewatch the West Wing from time to time and I know like the politics are day.

[00:13:14] I love those like it's you know like all that stuff and we are clearly not as naive and hopeful and trusting as we used to be when it was first airing whatever. I don't care it's my comfort place you know only the first three seasons though for me.

[00:13:32] Yes yes yes that is very important. I will but when I say rewatch it again like I'm like watching like maybe a few like clips or else I'm watching like you know like an episode at the most. I just want to see President Bartlett own that Christian lady.

[00:13:53] Yes I love that scene or the scene where like they discovered that all the maps are wrong like Tuesday like that is such a great episode like I love the West Wing. I will rewatch clips from Law and Order and Law and Order SVU like all the time.

[00:14:13] I know exactly who did the murders I know like I don't care I will rewatch it. And you're like 10 minutes into the episode of murder murder has been found but like 20 minutes more to go like. Dal may have kuch kaala hai. Abhi koi aur murderan nikhle.

[00:14:32] Then I also love the David Sushay Q Poirot. That is my jam like I will that is something that I will watch from like beginning to end like I will just like go right through it.

[00:14:47] I love it and then there's a 80s Pakistani drama called Dhoop Kinare which I don't know if any of you have seen it but it used to be it was the rage back in the 80s.

[00:15:01] Right and we used to get like the signal from Pakistan in Delhi so we used to like watch it like that's how I watched like a whole bunch of Pakistani dramas.

[00:15:12] And Dhoop Kinare I will rewatch every few years like I will watch from like beginning to end I love it. And there's also a Chinese historical revenge drama called Yangshi Palace. You've talked about that one.

[00:15:31] Yeah I talk about it all the time like I watch clips from it all the time like I that this really comforting as well. Sushay what about you?

[00:15:40] I used to watch Friends a lot but I think after I haven't watched a single episode after Matthew Bering's passing to be honest. Yeah I get that. It gets difficult for me. I only watched the American Office like during the pandemic and I completely finished it.

[00:15:56] I haven't been on a rewatch yet. I don't know if I want to or not but Parks and Rec most definitely I just pick any random episode and I can watch it easily every single time. I skipped season one of that. Yeah season one is the worst.

[00:16:10] Yeah yeah like even if you start from season two episode one where the penguins get married it's that that's the best episode ever. And then it's progressively like better and better. Oh Dairy Girls. Dairy Girls. I only watch Dairy Girls any time. Any episode yeah.

[00:16:32] I like I watch a lot of anime so that takes a lot of my time basically or even rewatch Naruto from now like on my 4-3 watch or something. I've never seen Naruto. I know what it feels like. I know what it's about and it's not.

[00:16:50] I think it came too late. I was more of a Dragon Ball Z kind of era but yeah I miss Naruto the whole thing.

[00:16:57] My movies are so in Hollywood and these are movies you put it on anywhere I'll start watching them you know and I'll finish till the end. So I have Jackie Brown.

[00:17:09] Darnity knows La Anne the French movie The Hate the Good the Bad and the Ugly and these are really weird but specifically me limitless Bradley Cooper. I don't know. I just love that movie. Source cord. This is another one where he's on a film.

[00:17:32] Gillian Hall is an honor. I love Looper movies like even Looper I love. Looper is a fucking amazing movie. So good. Looper is so good. Any Ryan Johnson movie. I love all of the Knives Art movies. I love his first one.

[00:17:49] Brother's Bloom you know these are like but like specifically those. In a thing and then in Hindi again a weird list for me I guess I think you know the ones that I have over here. Should I actually ask you guys.

[00:18:03] What do you think is on my list let's see let's see how good you know me like give me a few what do you think might be on the list. And that's up now. Yeah you got it. Tiger. No it's not on there but close. Okay.

[00:18:21] Yeah definitely on there. Yeah but. Yes. So my list is. Mr. India. I kind of put them two together. This is the Salman Khan list. The old. I was about to say but I thought it was a good one. I think it's a good one.

[00:18:41] Virgati and Bagi the old. I was about to say but I thought it was too far fetched even for us. Two movies we actually still haven't done on Khan out podcast yet. Imagine when those drop how crazy I will be going.

[00:18:56] And then any current your movie in any Farhan Farah Khan those two. Yes. Gold standard for me you know. I don't know about this mark on. I don't know about. It's amazing. It's so good. Love is conditional. Even for Farah Khan my love is like me and no.

[00:19:21] Shanti. How big this mark on is on tiktok guys you have no clue that Katrina scene where she's like you know. Where is where is my. No where is the where is the where is the. Where is the. Where is the.

[00:19:40] So big guys it's so big on tiktok. It's amazing. So yeah. Great question. That's kind of our list. Next question I have is from. Can we pick your brain on what are your thoughts on the cinema of today?

[00:19:59] Is it me or are we really again in the revival of chocolate heroes and heroine of the sexism and tiktoks is the of course. Re-watched animal again just to see my housemates faced while watching that movie

[00:20:12] and it came back with an even stronger force for me to how dead Bollywood or cinema is general generally in these days. Yeah. Amrita making that face when we mentioned our animal and then Amrita was the one who picked it for her 2023 best. Who is something.

[00:20:33] Listen I had a full like there was a thought process behind it. I didn't say it was like a good movie. I said it was like the most important movie. Yeah. And I still I would not say watching animal it makes me think cinema is dead at all.

[00:20:49] I think it's a very like propulsive movie. Yeah. I think a lot of the online discourse makes you think like things are worse than they actually are the people online. You have to understand we all have worms in our brains like we have like a kind of brain

[00:21:11] rot that is unprecedented in human history like the way that it's like documented and scripted and written on the digital walls too for the ages to read you know and also it's a whole bunch of like illiterate people who read like the first alphabet of every line

[00:21:33] and then they basically knit it into some sort of theory that they are convinced is the truth and nothing but the truth. And meanwhile they don't understand anything like there was like you know like what's it called

[00:21:47] who was it somebody who was in something that just came out recently and people were you know he played like a pedophile or something in it and people were like texting him and asking

[00:22:06] him why he was a pedophile and he was like I'm acting like I'm not actually like what are you talking about like people have like the parasociality has just completely destroyed people's ideas of reality. Yeah anyway sorry Sujoy you were saying something I've lost my train of thought.

[00:22:26] I'm sorry. So we're in the revival of the chocolate heroines and heroes without the toxicity we always had chocolate heroes and chocolate hero who is a chocolate hero what are what is the chocolate

[00:22:39] that's what I mean like you know like the soft boy yeah basically so I feel like that's the trajectory right like when you make your when you make your debut nine out of ten times you come as a soft boy

[00:22:54] whether in the 90s it was like Rahul Roy and Amir when he came out even Salman like in Manipaka he was absolutely a soft boy and then you sort of like and I have a theory that unless you can do both

[00:23:10] like unless you can do the tough guy but also the soft boy you won't have a career in Bollywood like that is my or like a long lasting career.

[00:23:20] Remember when Simba came out and how big of a deal Ranveer was making it that I'm like you know an action hero from Rohit Shetty and I think that's what he was trying to say that I'm moving from soft boy to macho hero

[00:23:34] and I think it's a because he's a very calculated person in terms of his career so I think he was he made that step actively and I think for him it was a big thing I think yeah but yeah like who who's in the

[00:23:50] soft boy era at the moment I'm like Vicky Koshel I think maybe that's Ishan Khattar but have they struck it big yet? The problem is not whether we are in a soft boy era or whether like cinema is dead the problem is like where is the younger talent

[00:24:09] I mean we literally talked about nobody is watching Ishk Vishk rebound which is the soft boy movie that right soft boys of the movie right? I mean like in every genre even with like Ranveer or Ranveer and everything like when they came on the scene people were excited

[00:24:28] people were just like wow like who is this I want to see more of this guy who do I feel that way about like I love Tajidhar Haram at the moment you know he's the one that has it right?

[00:24:43] I mean like I really love Avinash Tiwari and Siddhan Gupta and like their work and everything but I'm not like mining for them you know like where did that go?

[00:24:57] Also I need to shout out Siddhan Chaturvedi in that Ittifak song which is a banger a banger I enjoy watching this dude dance

[00:25:09] I really enjoy it he has like this weird gangly thing going on I kind of like it because I saw him in that Kogay Hamkah song too

[00:25:19] I want to see you dance he had some moves there and he's got some moves here in this John Travolta suit he's wearing But dude Vamika Gaby like wow like what a freaking star that woman is like I like I want to see more of her

[00:25:35] like she's gorgeous in it Yeah she's great I think I want to see more of her work to be honest I feel I see too much of her on other things but like because the last Khufya she was great in Khufya right?

[00:25:50] Yeah I think Jubilee she was great and I think this is a question we'll get to later on a bit so I'm not sure I don't know if we agree or not if there's a chocolate boy here at the world

[00:26:04] I mean forget chocolate or soft boy movies like we are not making enough movies to begin with The sample size is so low for us to decide what's a good one or not Specifically sidebar for Amrita girl we need your perspective should I pronounce it?

[00:26:23] Girl we need your perspective on the new season of Bridgerton I know I know not the platform but or kaha pujhu First of all never do that again I would have used this one Pursuit Good Did you hear anything on that intro?

[00:26:47] Yeah like this was not my favorite season like it was it was fine like I am glad and like Nikola is a goddess Like an absolute goddess She's just like like dang she's just like yeah like if I ever went gay I'd go gay for Nikola

[00:27:11] My wife's name out of your mouth So join me But Yeah, like I'm sorry like I know he has like rabid fans but Luke just doesn't cut it for me as Colin Maybe it's because like I remember calling for the books and

[00:27:36] Like like Penelope and Colin in the books are like a good ten years older than they are on the show And that's like a very different vibe. So I don't know. I didn't really like it was fine How about Bonita Bonita? Sandu She's in this no?

[00:27:56] She's in like one scene Really? What? Bless her She's so pretty She is Yeah, I don't watch Bridgerton. Do you watch it? Do you watch it? So yeah, do you seem to be very much are you just talking about like memes and make interviews?

[00:28:12] Yeah, I just watched the scenes by Nikola Rocklin Yeah, it is your browser history I literally told this on the podcast so why should I? Okay next question from good friend Manish we were on his podcast

[00:28:40] We're gonna be there on Bollywood draft soon sign up subscribe and leave him a rating It always helps new podcast by the way to share their work Bollywood drafts Do you think the strikes in Hollywood had some effects on Bollywood releases?

[00:28:54] I know they weren't on strike in India, but both industries have such a dearth of interesting mainstream content So you come down to from the post lockdown rush to get back to work. What are your thoughts about it?

[00:29:07] I don't think it has anything to do with the Hollywood strikes. I just think that COVID is more the culprit Can I add this question from because it kind of links it and we've covered it and I think we're very

[00:29:25] So this is a question from Meda M. A. D. M. I. D. A. I'm hoping for an answer correctly Why is Bollywood so dead in 2024 10 to 15 years ago?

[00:29:36] All the mega stars would be in multiple films movies every year. Now you're lucky if you get one movie a year So those are both questions because I've prepared and read the questions. I know which questions are coming

[00:29:50] Professional of this episode of this podcast. Yeah, I think both of those things are related, you know, so I think It's post lockdown. I don't know if necessarily the strikes are affecting it

[00:30:02] But I think lockdown definitely affected it. I also I think just the more thing is that I think movies are very very expensive. I think everything in life has become so much more expensive, you know You can't travel anymore. You can buy groceries anymore and this

[00:30:18] Exponentially is working on the budgets of movies and the star salaries I think even there were a few producers that got together recently to say, you know We need to reject finances of these movies because it's not even that they're not

[00:30:32] Profitable for us anymore is that we cannot make them anymore. And I think that's one of the problems and then I think streaming plays a part in it Which is kind of a disruptor to the whole industry It's taken away theatrical

[00:30:47] And the lockdown didn't help like theatrical just couldn't cut come back the way it could, you know We're talking about some movie making a hundred crores, which was a benchmark during Gajini When Gajini came out that was the hundred crore benchmark, right?

[00:31:04] We can't use that as a benchmark anymore, right? Like in terms of just how things are expensive and like things So if a Nakshya Kumar movie does hundred crore, that doesn't mean shit, right?

[00:31:16] But also I think in terms of volume back when movies were the only gig in town People were making more of them Yeah, but now there's like a whole bunch of people who've just moved to streaming And they're just making content for streaming

[00:31:31] But even streaming is not working. I watched Suitshin's new episode of streaming with Suitshin And he had the showrunner from Patal Lok on there And they were telling that like writers are out of a job

[00:31:45] They have no budgets to there's shows that have been written that have been shot that have been announced And they will never get released So that's kind of state of the industry But isn't that political rather than like anything else?

[00:32:01] It could be. It could be budgets. It could be they don't have the money to promote it Like the way Maharaj dropped, right? Like on streaming Like how are they even spending money on this, you know?

[00:32:11] And I remember back when a movie that I liked coming back to it Aurangzeb dropped. Remember how much fun I was making of that? Like Yashar just dropped it on streaming and that was it And that was so many years ago

[00:32:27] Now like if you're reliant on streaming and these movies aren't getting pushed Like even in Hollywood they shot the entirety of Bad Girl And Warner didn't even release it, you know? Yeah And that's just insane to me, right?

[00:32:40] Like so there's still cost implications. I think those might be a few of those What do you think? Do you think there's any other reason that I maybe forgot? Like the whole distribution model has changed And you know, audience acquiring to attract them to buy tickets

[00:32:58] To fill seats in the cinema That whole thing has completely changed since the pandemic And so like audiences viewing behavior has changed And also like over the last couple of years The big temple movies that these that Bollywood was trying to make

[00:33:14] Was trying to appease to a certain kind of audiences Or trying to maybe ride the wave of the right wing To say that and they were banking on it to be more successful But obviously they all tanked in succession So that has a knock-on effect

[00:33:33] And yeah, I think there's a lot of moving parts in this sort of dearth of movies Or the drought of content that we are seeing at the cinema And it's not just one thing But it's like playing in tandem with each other

[00:33:49] Like the makers can't make good movies because the costs are high And then the star prices are high and entourage And also like streaming is eating into it There are no like physical media sales anymore

[00:34:03] All of that and also like audiences don't want to go watch a movie at the cinema If it's like an indie movie, all of that shit Yeah, I have another thought But I know there's another question coming in So I'll talk about that then

[00:34:18] But there's one more element I want to talk about then about this A question from Usama Please let us know the scariest content you three have consumed so far With the element of supernatural attached to it I lost my sleep for two days after watching House of Secrets

[00:34:35] Burari's death documentary Used to live alone, end up getting housemates in a week after watching those three episodes Also, Asim Bhai, please share your old pictures with Salman Khan wardrobe I, Usama, I am lucky enough to be old So none of my stuff is digital

[00:34:57] So you have not access to my Salman Khan wardrobe You do, I do not have access to my break dancing era I do not have access to my rap career So these are all elements of Asim that will never see the light of day anymore

[00:35:13] And I'm very, very grateful Asim also has a movie that he shot once That will also never be found I was always like wanting to do more Ambition was there, talent was very less

[00:35:25] But I've done all of these things and they will never see the light of day I'm happy that I lost track of all of that Unless my sisters are listening to them And they want to take revenge and start posting things on Instagram

[00:35:36] Or that might be the only thing But yeah, unfortunately those have been lost to the time Which is good Yes, the supernatural element I'll be honest I don't watch a lot of horror And it's not a genre And honestly even when I watch it

[00:35:57] I do not get scared of it I'll tell you something My daughter had her first birthday party Where she was going to a mall with her friends Before that I watched a martial arts movie That I would recommend to people It's either New Zealand or Australian movie

[00:36:17] I'm not sure they sound similar to me It's called Life After Fighting It's a movie about a martial artist who is kind of running a gym And somebody kidnaps two of the girls that work out at the gym And he has to go find them

[00:36:33] And that gave me nightmares Just the fact of these 11-12 year old girls being kidnapped in front of their house And literally being shipped off to Romania as sex slaves That gave me nightmares Because that thing was going, that mall party was going to happen

[00:36:52] And literally we followed them I was not going to let them out of my sight And I'll be honest I can be honest on the podcast This scared me so much I was thinking of going armed to the mall Like have something that I'm carrying

[00:37:06] I'm a strong guy, I can take on a few But in my mind it had played so much That I was like maybe I should also just arm myself So that's how far I took it So horror doesn't do it for me

[00:37:19] This thing, and there was also like a documentary I remember Dear Zachary It's haunted me since I saw it And if I think about it I'll start crying So those things like if it's about losing children Parents disappearing Those things really affect me because naturally

[00:37:46] I'm a dad and these things were lovely bones Lovely bones like that one That affects me so much That Jake Gyllenhaal movie No, Hugh Jackman movie Enemy I think it's called I know the one you're talking about Prisoner, prisoner Oh my God, prisoner Just like screws me

[00:38:14] These kind of things screw me up So horror I watch very detached And it's not a genre I really seek out So elemental things I'm such a kind of grounded person I'm just going to punch the ghost It doesn't scare me at all

[00:38:31] Which is my reaction to most things I'll just punch him But yeah, so that's kind of my thing Amrit, any things that you lose sleep about? I mean, yeah, I also am not really a horror person per se I had to stop watching criminal intent

[00:38:52] The Mandy Pattenken show because Like Asan said it was just like real world situations That just like really scared the shit out of me But I did watch Brahma Yogan A couple of months ago The promoting movie that came out And it's not a jump scare movie

[00:39:15] But it is a very scary movie About like losing control of yourself And your agency And I think we discussed it Like it was on Patreon or was it on the regular podcast? I think we did Yeah, I'm not sure where we reviewed it

[00:39:38] But we had all the mamutti thing going on for a couple of months So yeah, you can check that out if you'd like Yeah, Sujoy Well, I'm the horror guy in this podcast I watch a lot of horror I enjoy watching a lot of horror

[00:39:55] Especially supernatural and environmental And all of that One of my favorites is The Descent It's a British sort of cave diving movie And that gave me so many claustrophobic moments But when it comes to stuff that gives me nightmares And makes me lose sleep

[00:40:13] I think movies or even get flashes from that movie In real life situations The final destination movies do it for me Anytime I'm in front of a heavy goods vehicle With lots of logs I'm like, shit, I'm gonna die Or something like that

[00:40:32] Anytime I see a lorry loaded with a lot of gas cylinders I'm like, this is gonna explode And all of that Home invasion movies, those completely freaked me out That's a scary genre I admit home invasion movies I had a period where I was thinking of studying architecture

[00:40:54] And my mind was always like, okay But how do we create an escape tunnel in this house? It was always like, it needs to have an escape tunnel And a panic room Like I'm such a paranoid person Home invasion movies, what else? I think about the Burari deaths

[00:41:14] I have to say that there's a certain element to How true crime things are short That I can find very creepy Especially, I feel sometimes they can revel a bit too much on violence of women

[00:41:26] I remember there was a Ted Bundy show that came out not too long ago I watched one episode and I was like, I can't watch it This is just very exploitative for me So those violence against women is also something that I'm like It needs to be

[00:41:41] The Burari one, it's actually a really good documentary It's about this family in Delhi that all were found hanging You remember you talked about it on the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah It's a pretty good one actually Sujoy, anything else? No, I think there is that

[00:42:02] The other question from Mehta that I'm coming back to Because I'd combined the question with the previous one What projects do you think each of the Khan should do next? This being Khan Dan

[00:42:17] I think honestly, I think they're doing exactly what they should be doing to be honest I think King looks interesting. I think that's what it's called Shahrukh's next one with Sohana And I think also Salman has gotten his ass in gear again

[00:42:34] It seems to be he's working with Atlee and they're working on this Maybe a movie with Ranveer Singh which would be crazy if it happens That could be cool And I think Sikander is also, I don't know if that's Sikander

[00:42:49] If there's another one, Sikander is something else that he's working on Sikander is a favorite of my names If my daughter was a boy, I would have called her Sikander which he hates But I've said this before So cool connection between Salman and me continue

[00:43:04] So, Aaveer, I don't know what he's doing And I think it's good that he stepped away a little bit I think this break was needed for everybody and I think it's smart of him He's doing that Lahore movie, right?

[00:43:17] That partition movie, I think that's what he's doing next I would like to see the Khan's come together Save Bollywood, make a movie with all three of them What kind of movie would you want them to make?

[00:43:32] I don't know what kind but I 100% would not want them to do like a spy Or any of those like Doom or one of those I don't want to see one of those I would love to see something in which they have extensive periods

[00:43:51] Where they're like a bromance You know what? Like a bromance Where did the bromance movies go in Bollywood? I don't see them anymore I would love to see them do like I don't know Maybe Dosti Salman Shahrukh and Amir by Zoya Aksar

[00:44:24] I want to watch Salman, Amir and Shahrukh by Farhan Aksar Making a heist movie Where they have history of working with each other Or against each other They are scoundrels Or oceans I was thinking oceans, that could be a good one

[00:44:46] Like three of them, Salman being the brawn Shahrukh being face And then Amir being the mastermind That would be really cool The other thing that I would really like is like a dirty western Like a good, bad and ugly Like really dirty

[00:45:07] Or even like make it a gangster genre Like satya But make it a western Having these people play dons And then Shahrukh can be the Dubai Don And Salman can be like the don from the warehouses And stuff like that And Amir can be like the businessman

[00:45:29] But he's really corrupt And he has the political connections And then at the end they fight on You know that building in Kuala Lumpur Where there's the bridge and the bittern They fight on top of that And then the jet comes in and Katrina saves somebody

[00:45:43] I would go watch that That could be really really cool Katrina ke Petrona I have to put Katrina in there somewhere Or like just a comedy Like a really good Rajkumar Sandoshi type comedy But I feel like in theory I'm like yes

[00:46:06] But in practice I feel like I would stab myself in the eye Like every single minute of that movie Because all three of them are like none of them know how to play the straight man Like all of them are very much like you know, like the comic

[00:46:25] I was watching a bit of Cliffs And there was that scene in a Pata poster Nikla Hero Where Shahid Kapoor is driving and Salman is in the car It is so funny guys It is so funny It is the most hilarious thing Salman is so good at comedy

[00:46:44] You don't even know what I'm talking about I'll have to send that clip to you guys Salman is so good at comedy Why doesn't he do like good comedies anymore I just miss that Amir hasn't done a comedy in ages right? Valsing Chutta Comedy on multiple levels

[00:47:05] Comedy with tragedy, tragedy with comedy Okay, Viral says Long time listener here and obviously loving being Obviously been loving it And Viral thank you for being a long time Patreon to know just the listener My question is how three of you met and became friends

[00:47:22] I don't know where friends actually How this podcast idea started for you guys It's all business All the money we're raking in Also are we going to have Asim's daughter's thoughts review soon For one of the Khan movies as she did for Bajrangi Bhaijan

[00:47:43] My daughter recorded her first podcast I was so proud of her So she's good skills The whole khandan thing might go to her in Virasat one day Who knows On the other hand, I do try to protect her

[00:48:00] I know Patreon people are like friends and stuff like that But I try to be protective of my daughter I don't mention her name too much She's at that age where I have to be careful So that's why I don't think it's going to be happening anytime soon

[00:48:15] But the Bajrangi episode is there And actually she's forgotten that she ever did that So it's been that long ago I also remember somebody asked me Is that her voice you hear at the end of our theme song That says you know you podcast from the epiglottis

[00:48:32] For the ones that listen to the whole episode That is her She was a little baby and she recorded her podcast I still have the video, the picture of it It's really really cute It's a sweet memory that she's been with us

[00:48:45] From the start of khandan and new podcast Yes, who wants to tell the story So Joy you want to tell the story of how we met And how we became friends and how the podcast went Yeah I think I was running a Tumblr blog

[00:49:00] Back in the day called Bollypop It still exists somewhere on the internet And I think I was tweeting mostly about Bollywood I was like this was 2010 or something Or 2012, something during that time I think and Asim was with He had you podcast on and he reached out

[00:49:21] Basically for an episode to do rowdy rathore And that was our first interaction I believe And then because we were both in London We sort of met up I think the first time I met up I went to his house And he invited us for birthday party

[00:49:38] And that's when I met the Bernese And I was instantly at home It was the best aloo chat I have had In many many years I still remember that and it was the tiniest cutest baby Oh my god, I really have vivid memories Of that birthday party

[00:49:57] And then I think Amrita You were studying here for a while And that's when we met with Asim At Nando's I believe With Bollywood fan Nikki, she has been passed away since She passed away during the Covid Nikki was visiting London And we all met up

[00:50:27] And we just instantly hated off And the Khandan story I think Amrita should tell Why Khandan and what happened after that After that we were like I think we all showed up very grudgingly Because we were just like Because Beth was like You guys should meet up

[00:50:49] And we were all like Fine, you know And that's why we were at the Nando's In the first place because all of us were just like Yeah, Beth is the Kevin Bacon between us We all know Beth and Beth knows all of us

[00:51:03] And that sort of boyfriend Beth And then we just sat there for like I think two hours just talking to each other And just like a little thing like idiots And then after that we just started Like hanging out a lot more And then

[00:51:18] So the thing that you have to know Is that if you know Asim You know his entire family That's how it's been with me So like I ended up being friends With like his sisters And then at one point Asim sent an email to Sujoy me

[00:51:34] And was just like Hey, would you like to do a podcast Series about the movies of the three Khaans And I'm going to call it the Khandan And I was like That is the best name in the history of all names

[00:51:51] Like I just wanted to be a part of a podcast And I was like I just wanted to be a part of a podcast Called Khandan Like I was just like that is amazing I mean we are We are all Khandan people And yeah

[00:52:11] Like we just started off And I think like when we first started off We would have these conversations all the time Where we'd be like Oh my god, like I hope this is a success And it's not just like all our mothers Who are subscribed to our channel

[00:52:26] We say that about like literally everything That we put out You know, like we are just like I hope it's more than our mothers who like listen to this And it's been such a joy To just watch the Khandan family grow

[00:52:41] Over the past like five, six, seven years You know It's been a wild ride And it's been more successful Than any of us hoped I think And it's been really rewarding and fun And also like we have to like sort of rewind a bit

[00:53:02] And the difficult period of the pandemic I guess that was a good time for the podcast Maybe not so much for our personal lives It was we were going through shit at the time And we had each other during that time

[00:53:18] Through the podcast and it's kind of poetic In a way that the podcast really grew during that period Because we were also making a lot more episodes During that time and we found our own community in a way Yeah I mean my version is that

[00:53:34] I was doing U-podcasts for a long time And U-podcasts was basically me at that time I'd traveled a lot, I'd lived in France, Paris, Amsterdam And all that kind of thing And when I came to London I was missing talking to my friends And podcasts were picking up

[00:53:46] I think I literally stole the idea from the slash film cast Back in the day Because they had explained how they started And I was like this is a good idea, I'll do that But it was all over the place We were doing Hollywood

[00:53:56] We were doing underrated movies It was stuff all over the place But there was literally There was no podcasting Didn't really exist the way it does now Nobody like no celebrity had a podcast right So we could just do whatever

[00:54:08] And after a while I was like running out of steam I didn't know what to do with the project anymore And I wanted to talk more and more Bollywood Because my co-hosts at that time Martin and Ahmed They weren't available to record as much

[00:54:19] And I was finding these friends like Beth And you know, Shakila, Filmy Girl All of these friends that some have stopped Blogging about podcasts or stuff about Bollywood But at that time we were doing a lot of it That's where I met Parish from the Currie Smugglers

[00:54:37] And I remember Amrita from Beth's blog Back in the day I think our paths crossed even then But I think interactions were a bit You know, I think Amrita from the start Has always been very careful who she interacts with Online And I was not

[00:54:56] She failed with us I know that really well The Nando's chicken tricked her And I know the moment I fell in love In a way friendship-wise with Amrita Is that Nando's moment Because I had brought the selfie stick To take a picture I was terrible at it

[00:55:13] And the way Amrita grabbed the selfie stick And said, let me do this I was like, this woman is amazing She's gonna be my friend And what I did to Amrita What I do to Sujoy Is I force you to be my friend You have no option

[00:55:29] I will bribe you I will bring my family I will do what is necessary You will be my friend If this is my Alhachar You'll be my friend I have to say for me I got Biryani So it was a little bit better than Alhachar

[00:55:48] So that's how I went about it And I forced people to be my friends I am obsessive like Shahrukh was In the 90s about women That's how I am with friends That's how I do it So that was the story of Khandan And how it started

[00:56:05] Next one is from Milani I am pronouncing it this way Because Milani is from France Listeners, I am from France Listeners, since last year I love you all I feel most of the actors Of this generation think that Doing serious film acting

[00:56:27] Is the main way to be recognized As a good actor And therefore There are very few stars Actors who are giving us joy on screen What are your thoughts on this And we want more romantic dramas And rom-coms from Hindi cinema Or Indian cinema in general

[00:56:44] Which they do best and used to do it Frequently before And this is the question that I said I wanted to get back to Because I think this is something That it's not necessarily rom-coms What I would like Bollywood to do more Is low stakes cinema

[00:57:00] And I think it's kind of the same problem With have we had with Marvel Back in the day Is that Nerds like us when we were growing up We were like, oh my god wouldn't it be cool That there was like an amazing Spider-Man movie

[00:57:13] Or there was like an Iron Man movie And then we got them And then we got so much of them That we were like please Like spare us Enough for me And I think in a way Bollywood was the same way Where I was like man

[00:57:27] I want this masala daan action Make me go to the cinema I want to see item songs And I want to see big set pieces And suddenly that's all Bollywood is giving us And I was like I think it's enough I think I got it

[00:57:41] Give me break ke baad Give me, you know what I'm saying And I think that's what we need We need a low stakes That they're easy to churn out One after the other Amitabh, Akshay, Salman We love those guys Because they were literally doing four movies a year

[00:57:57] If ek ne chadi They go to the next one Okay in French If I am a hachpa, o pao poche I think that's what we want And I think if Varun Dhawan Cannot make a movie for three years What the hell is he doing?

[00:58:12] And I think it's not just him It's the economics of it But also this is what really gets my goat About the star kid Nepo kid Whatever ecosystem thing Because these are people who don't need the money So I'm like Why don't you take, that's why I respect

[00:58:31] Janvi to be very honest Because she's doing it right She's like I don't need all the cash To come from my movies I can basically work for peanuts And therefore I will Put my energy and my time Into all these different types of cinema

[00:58:50] And she might not be the best actress Out there or anything like that I'm not making that claim whatsoever But I'm saying that at least she's trying And she's trying to do different things And I feel like she's gotten to a point In her career where

[00:59:06] She is very watchable on screen And you only get that through practice Like Varun Dhawan for example Is not at a point in his career Where he can disappear for three years And then come back like Shah Rukh Khan

[00:59:20] Like that is not the same level of stardom kid Like you need to be out there working Like grind I'll be honest Even I would now categorize Ranveer Singh in this Rocky and Ranveer Singh was last year What the hell are you doing Just choosing projects

[00:59:37] Dropping nonsense left and right Is Dawn 3 even happening Who knows if Dawn 3 is happening Yeah, a lot of these guys I think the only person that can Get away with it is maybe Ranveer The only one But even he dropped 2 last year

[00:59:54] And he has a baby and stuff like that But I'll go back I don't think ever Ever Rithik Roshan should have Done his career the way he did Like I think he harmed himself By doing so less movies that he did

[01:00:09] And all of them want to be Aamir Khan But none of them are Aamir Khan And it makes no sense to me And Aamir, the difference between Aamir And these guys is that Aamir is conceiving And producing his own movies Like the reason why he can do

[01:00:26] One film a year or like Take his time, blah blah blah Is because he's developing Projects for himself in a way That none of these guys are Like Varun Dhawan is not sitting At home and developing He's recycling his father's Greatest hits, that's not Developing projects, that's

[01:00:46] Doing your basic production Aamir is strategizing Like we were talking about this In the Rangde Basanti episode Where you could see that the man Was like, he had a perspective He was trying to do something with it Even with this Lahore thing

[01:01:02] I don't know what kind of mess It's gonna be but I do know For sure that he's trying to Introduce a talking point He's trying to do something That is going to change the narrative Which is a skill That very few people have Anywhere

[01:01:20] I'm gonna get back to Rithik Because If you compare to Aamir Who the hell cares about Super 30 You brown face yourself You learn the accent and all of that It's a genre movie like Hitchkey was better than Super 30 right and Rani did that With the whole stuttering thing

[01:01:42] Like she sleepwalked through it And it was a better movie right If you're gonna put that much effort in war Like that's what your effort is in I don't get it And also the whole Like Aamir argument is moot Because when Aamir

[01:01:58] When he started his career he was churning Four movies a year and nobody Gets to be like, oh I'm gonna Be Aamir Khan on day one itself And expect that the The fans would come crawling at their feet And honestly I think it's also

[01:02:12] The weird thing is that With Aamir they also Think of his Career in terms of like What a Daniel Day Lewis or A Christian Bale does So they're like well you know Christian Bale was away for like five years

[01:02:28] And then comes back and he's like a giant success Or like Daniel Day Lewis Like goes away and becomes a carpenter For like ten years and then he comes back And then he wins an Academy award But that is a very different Ecosystem like that

[01:02:42] Which does not work in Bollywood Like it absolutely does not And honestly Like I would say Take like Kamala Haasan talks about this a lot Actually you know like he Just talks a lot generally Yes But like once in a while he does talk

[01:03:00] Sends and he talks about like how Bollywood even back in the day Would take An inordinate amount of Time to make like one single Movie and he was like We can't afford to do that As an industry down south So you're making It's not like they're making

[01:03:20] Subpar material or like They're making like terrible movies Like Mamuti is making like three to four movies A year at age like 78 or whatever 74 It doesn't and like each of those movies Are like quality movies But he's like going through them

[01:03:38] At a rate of like you know he doesn't take more than Like three months to make a movie That's the kind Of scale that people Need to start thinking about they need to start Thinking about like what is it That we can do that are like the mid-size

[01:03:52] Movies the small movies The little feeder Movies that will allow us To build up a market share that will Allow the bigger movies to Float because otherwise they're Just going to just land in The middle of the market Yeah And then specifically to talk about

[01:04:12] The lack of rom-coms right And I think again this is a problem In Hollywood as much as in Bollywood I remember there was an interview Specifically talking about this I don't know if it was Karan Johor Or something like that about The difficulty of making rom-coms Is that

[01:04:30] There's no barriers Anymore to love as there were Before you know it was always Against parental consent That was the love stories Or then it became in the Recent year it became like more of a Cast based issue right That's the only reason why

[01:04:48] People cannot be together anymore But now you have if you can Have live-in relationships You can have more openness To different spectrum Of the sexuality You made those movies already But what other obstacle Is there to make in a romantic movie And I think that's something that they

[01:05:08] Haven't been able to crack to make those Epic rom-coms And I think even in Hollywood I think it's A problem because they also haven't Been making those kind of You know Julia Roberts kind of Movies that they used to make Notting Hill and like you know

[01:05:24] I think the only one was that The one with Sydney Sweeney That came out last year and Glenn Powell But even that Genre has kind of died away because Making something Interesting about love has Become more of a challenge I think that was the theory I heard

[01:05:46] I think Milani specifically said More Rocky and Rani Premalu Which also is a couple of years old No no Premalu is like this Sorry I'm thinking about the other one Right right right But yeah what do you guys think Specifically about like rom-coms I know we miss them

[01:06:04] But even Rocky and Rani Felt very fresh right like it was like Wow we haven't seen this kind of thing in a while I don't subscribe to the To the The concept that they're You know like the ideas need to Be fresh like I don't think so

[01:06:20] I think perspectives need to be fresh I think that writing needs to be fresh I think like ideas are basically As old as time it's basically The same thing you know And it's of It's always of interest to people

[01:06:34] Who are watching it like who doesn't like a good rom-com Like what's wrong with you if you don't I assume imagine Parents are still being bitches about You know marrying whoever you want I don't think that has gone away Necessarily right so Yeah I don't know

[01:06:54] Sujoy could they make a rom-com about Your love life It's so dysfunctional there is no story Maybe a true crime Document Maybe I should delete My browser history Okay final Question from Miranda I love to hear your Fantasy movie not the

[01:07:20] Genre but rather the movie that each of you Wishes Bollywood would make and release Theatrically not direct to streaming Sort of what you would like Sort of what Sort of like what you would order off a Hindi Film menu I think we veered into this

[01:07:36] A bit with the Khan kind of thing But what would you like to see What is the genre If Farhan Akhtar ever got Off his mug Ass and made G-Lazara Like that would be my fantasy movie I'm so mad at Farhan

[01:07:52] I'm so mad like I saw something about The luxury release Re-release and I was like dude Should I slap you back into the director Share like what is going on Like Basically the Uptas And the Well only one Khan Farah But I would like that Trio of Of

[01:08:16] Cousin Directors For movies I think Farah can get a budget I think that's what's happening I think that's the problem She can't I think she was also going to collaborate with Rohit Shetty For something a while back And it didn't materialize

[01:08:34] I think she cannot pull a budget together for What she wants to make on the scale She wants to make it And I think that's just kind of the sad Problem of the economy at the moment Maybe We don't expect Farah Khan to make a movie

[01:08:48] And it's going to be an indie rom-com Kind of a movie, it has to be A Farah Khan spectacle And Yeah she should get the budget But I don't know how Rohit Shetty was smart about that Like the way he did it Like create his own company

[01:09:06] And just produce it himself And Farah just couldn't do that Farah do it through red chili sauce So then like her biggest expense Would be that would get eaten I don't think even Shahrukh wants to take on those risks Maybe I don't know Too many offensive jokes

[01:09:22] I don't know what red chilies is doing To be honest, I don't feel it's like A machine that's creating a lot of content Or making a lot of like Has a big you know Footprint on cinema at all They did Jawan so they're like

[01:09:38] Gauri Khan is happy doing interior decoration Yeah What kind of genre movie would you like To make if you could pick and choose Any kind of Movie Let's not do the khans because we literally just did that part But Let's think about women Like we had crew

[01:09:58] We had Gilles Araa What would you like to see? Would you like to see A badass action movie with women Would you want to see Some older actresses Have some disease and coming to terms With the end of their lives Jesus Gender flipped shoelay That would be interesting

[01:10:18] Gender flipped shoelay who would you cast In the gender flipped shoelay Deepakar Gatrina Right Asim was taking notes immediately And Karishmakapur playing Thakur Ooo Yeah, okay I don't know I want a comedy to come out of Bollywood man A really good well written

[01:10:46] Like Paul Sturlow Wall's hilarious comedy That is not problematic But it's just pure fun What is your genre of comedy you like Because there's a lot of different In comedy there's a lot of differences right There's very like this slap stick To very like

[01:11:02] You know quick witted kind of like Rip Arte kind of comedy Like Hera Peri I'm thinking or something like that Yeah we haven't had Hera Peri in a while Probably Hera Peri is Such an outlier in Bollywood In a way right There were so many movies

[01:11:20] That came after Hera Peri Which tried to Recreate that magic And in some ways Exceeded but partially Like succeeded but partially Like Garam Masala Bhaagam Bhag And the welcome movies Even they are all Like subsets of the Hera Peri That came before it and I think

[01:11:44] Nothing has reached Hera Peri in my eyes In the 2000s I think we need Something for today That is on that level Like the level of chemistry between The actors, the writing to Just you know sparkle With every scene And nothing to flat line

[01:12:06] During any of the scenes That Akshay Kumar To be present Like not do it like He's doing any other Pan Masala Or something like that Yeah I think I want to see more of Varan Dhawan Do more like smaller Movies like You know like even like

[01:12:30] I don't talk about like comedies But like even remember that movie With John Abraham called Force Remember Force That was not like a big action sequence Where there's like a whole go down fight And like jets are flying in and stuff like that

[01:12:44] It's like one cop taking or like dumb Remember we were talking about dumb Like a small scale two guys Like just duking it out Everything becomes like a world saving event It doesn't need to be that Yeah I'd like Varun to do something like that I also like

[01:13:02] Would Varun to take over like the Akshay Kumar Mantle a little bit The comedy mantel of him that Hiram That we're missing that kind of thing That I'm missing I'd like to see Ranveer into more Approachable roles You know I think He puts on like

[01:13:22] Too much I feel it's too much All the time like A look, an accent, a hair And I want him to tone it down I think that would be really good Ritik, Ranveer I would like to see more of them working I think their instincts are good

[01:13:38] But they need more of the work Like start just with two movies instead of one In two years you know that kind of work I would like for them I would like to see all of the women That have gotten babies and gotten married

[01:13:50] To come back and start doing more movies Thinking of Anushka Sharma obviously You know Deepika But also they deserve a break I understand that too I want to see Katrina more I would like to see Katrina lead projects more That Katrina superhero movie

[01:14:06] Which is never going to happen I would like to see that too I want to see Janvi In a rom-com with an amazing dance number Like an amazing dance number I haven't seen that yet Like a Hawaii kind of thing Or the Chalba's

[01:14:22] Rain song, you know that kind of thing That I would like to see Who else Sonakshi Sena is doing good in streaming I feel more streaming work for her Maybe she's getting married apparently Good for her Who else do we have Sara Sara has kind of also said

[01:14:44] That she would be good In those kind of 90s Govinda movies But they're not making them You know also low stakes That could be I think she could actually gel well with Varun They haven't really She did, right? Yeah but that was Judoa I think there's something there

[01:15:04] Energy-wise that could work But I think Varun might too much Have a bhenji energy towards her Which knowing Varun's Things I want to see Ibrahim In a balls out action movie lodge Like Kee Mat Or something like that That's what I want to see

[01:15:26] Long curly hair flowing in the air Like his dad Just get into the nepo thing Not try to disassociate with it Just own the thing And I think that might work for him Those are my thoughts about it I have one question we should do it

[01:15:42] Because we did everyone and it leads on Last one I think I wanted this because we're kind of leaning Into that era of low stakes And Varun Dhawan And you know I just mentioned Karisma with A A A A A A A A A A A A A

[01:16:24] A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A I just discovered something On Govinda's IMDB page He's credited for a scene In Jagga Jasu's which got deleted Yeah, I don't remember that

[01:17:20] I think the last Big movie that I saw Govinda was either Kildil and then maybe Holiday which was the Tupaki remake And I think he also did Raavan Raid with Mani Ratnam Those were supposedly going to be His comeback into Show business but none of them

[01:17:40] Really landed and then The obvious way he was Good in was that movie with Sehfali Khan Called Happy Ending remember that one Where he's playing a spoof of a hero And he had these painted six facts And stuff like that

[01:17:54] But again one of those movies that came and went And it didn't really connect with audiences But it was actually genuinely good I remember it being good Yeah I think he is basically His own biggest enemy Because I remember when Kildil came out And everybody was

[01:18:10] Trying their level best To give him his comeback The word of mouth was so positive Everybody was geeking out Like Ranveer and Arjun Kapoor were both Like so thrilled To be working with Be Govinda I think it was Ali Zafar No Ali Zafar in Kildil Kildil Yeah

[01:18:38] And they were just like So geeked out at like Sharing screen space with him And he like Like he really brought it as well To the screen you know Like the swag He was just like He was eating up the screen And then he just basically

[01:18:58] Like all the stories started coming out About him just being difficult on set And then like People would go up to him And offer him like other supporting roles Or like villain roles and he'd be like Well I'm a hero, like I only work Like as a hero

[01:19:14] And I'm just like You gotta understand Like what Asim was saying That when your time has passed You gotta adapt Which is why Anil Kapoor still has a career Yeah And I think that's basically what happened to Govinda That lead that is never gonna come

[01:19:32] I think Anil Kapoor just Works very very hard right Like he's taking on big boss And I think that would have been a good Govinda Thing to maybe just take on that And create that connect with the audiences That Salman created Actively after his court cases right

[01:19:48] Or Katrina created When she started Instagramming Right, like when you lose that Connect with the audience You need to rebuild it and I don't think Govinda ever put in the effort to do that Making an app Like I joked He's gonna drop an NFT soon too

[01:20:06] When the moment of NFT and app is done That's when Govinda is gonna get into it Well, I think we covered a lot I think this was really really fun And thank you for everybody That sent us a question Everybody that sent a question

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