Ep 223- Jamnagar Met Gala, Laapataa Ladies Review, Manjummel Boys

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[00:04:04] Shall we get on to our show because we have a lot of things to talk about?

[00:04:09] I think we cannot start without talking about Jamnagar. Right?

[00:04:18] I have to say, I don't want to talk about this. I don't want to cover this on the show but we just asked

[00:04:24] our Patreon should we talk about it and I don't think we've had this many messages that everybody

[00:04:30] absolutely wants to hear our thoughts about this event. So let's talk about it. This is a special

[00:04:35] for Patreon that everybody has access to now. Like kick us off, what the hell is Jamnagar?

[00:04:42] What happened? Who are these people? What should we talk about?

[00:04:46] It's a bunch of rich people doing rich people stuff. That's basically what it is.

[00:04:51] It is just the most maximalist gross display of wealth that I have seen in a very,

[00:04:59] very, very long time. Even by rich Gujarati standards like this is just disgustingly over the top.

[00:05:06] This is not even the wedding festivities. It's the pre-wedding festivities. Basically I think they

[00:05:13] had a bunch of deals that they needed to crack with Zakaberg and Bill Gates and the Trumps and

[00:05:22] Rihanna and all these people and they basically invited all their business associates to come to India

[00:05:27] and also gave them the Indian wedding experience which by the way is an actual thing. There are people

[00:05:34] tourists who come to India and there are tour companies that will take them to like random shadis

[00:05:41] to show them the Indian wedding experience and that is what the Ammanis did on a global like

[00:05:48] billionaire scale. And of course everybody just like lost their friggin minds. I have never seen

[00:05:55] beast many people like ordinary people like Lucha's on Twitter who are basically unemployed sitting

[00:06:03] around going like oh my god so since curry so humble meanwhile Nita Bhabhi is going around with a

[00:06:10] 500 crore necklace around him being on humble and just like what the hell wrong with you people.

[00:06:18] I love that tweet when somebody compared that necklace to a madameek's style.

[00:06:26] No I was also there somebody tweeted like this is the GDP of Pakistan or a neck which is

[00:06:31] legit funny but we're just sitting in our corner we're not doing anything. Why drag us?

[00:06:39] It's just literally yeah it was just all the Bollywood people were there and then like Rihanna was

[00:06:50] there and I Rihanna. So everyone knows that Rihanna is like one of the leziest performers out

[00:06:57] there right like the girl does not give a flying F. She's now in the cosmetics industry and

[00:07:04] that's how she makes her money and that's how she likes it but she showed up and she did like

[00:07:09] you know some choreo and everything and you know like she needed to like call out the bride and

[00:07:17] groom and she said out out to Anand and a Radhiki. Radhiki. Radhiki. Radhiki. Which is the type of

[00:07:26] salad right? Radhiki salad. I mean you get paid like eight million dollars and you were just

[00:07:33] like I can't even be bothered to like learn the names of the people. But paying me the eight million

[00:07:39] dollars I was like wow you're a real star but yeah I mean the other thing is also the appearance

[00:07:50] of a non-Bollywood star creates so many inputs in desi brains that they don't know how to handle it.

[00:07:57] So if she takes a photo with paparazzi on the airport we have to shame all Bollywood celebrities because

[00:08:05] they do not take these kind of pictures then another contingent comes in showing where Bollywood

[00:08:10] stars have taken like friendly pictures with fans and then it also adds like a layer of feminism

[00:08:17] because obviously women could not take these pictures with paparazzi because you know they would get

[00:08:23] physically assaulted but then there's another contingent like why are women not safe in India?

[00:08:28] You know what is going on you should learn karate right? So the one input.

[00:08:34] Krav Maga Krav. Yeah Rihana taking a picture with paparazzi

[00:08:39] sends us in we don't know which fight to fight you know we don't know. Like Kuchtskisi.

[00:08:46] Oh there's another one. So many are a Kiseler now you know like there's an additional layer of

[00:08:52] Nita Ambani not even touching her house people like the help when they are dancing around her and she was

[00:09:00] like social distancing you know and then additional footage like the PR

[00:09:09] madness was all around like greatest Indian family you know they were trying to put

[00:09:14] tray dambaanis like that and Radhika serving their guests and like Kithanesh and Scali

[00:09:23] I mean people have like zero understanding of like PR or you know like

[00:09:32] just people putting on a show they just like are absolutely willing to buy anything

[00:09:38] absolutely anything and of course like no event in India is complete without a Shah Rukh Khan

[00:09:43] scandal so it started out with him coming on stage and he said salam namaste and for good measure

[00:09:51] jashri ram which was a funny that's really funny that's really and literally everybody on twitter

[00:10:01] lost their minds they were like oh Shah Rukh said jashri ram and he meant it like you know this is

[00:10:06] how far like India is falling blah blah blah and I'm just like if you guys don't even understand

[00:10:12] language like very simple language this is not even elevated sac asmode and I think we need to

[00:10:18] explain the facets of it because not everybody is understanding even what happened right they need

[00:10:23] they need us to explain right what this so what again we don't know who to fight we want to fight

[00:10:30] but we don't know who to fight right so Shah Rukh makes this comment as a joke so the first level

[00:10:41] people we have to explain what sarcasm means because a lot of people just don't understand

[00:10:46] what sarcasm means right they were people like genuinely he is saying this right like when literally

[00:10:52] his face his tone his voice is explaining sarcasm so obviously there's a contingent of people

[00:10:59] that do not understand it that this was sarcastic so yes it was then there's another level who says

[00:11:06] you know Muslims are being so forced and especially big celebrities are so co-coded by wealth

[00:11:13] that you know they have to say this otherwise they would be you know burnt on stage you know

[00:11:19] Shah Rukh could be burnt on stage if this you know he didn't say it but then on the other hand

[00:11:24] Bharatman is such a like multi global respectful country that you know we just respect all cultures

[00:11:32] together right so what's the difference why can he not say it you know so these are the four

[00:11:38] five levels of you know discussion that is going on at the same time which Shah Rukh making

[00:11:44] a slight joke as Shah Rukh does and like even like a giant joke like it was like a tiny little

[00:11:50] like ho ha joke and then he just moved on but then also like this is what I always say you know

[00:11:58] like people like Shah Rukh's enemy is the biggest mistake that he's Shah Rukh's enemy

[00:12:05] because every time like Shah Rukh's up like something or the other happens in which like you

[00:12:15] know like his haters always end up on the wrong side and that's what happened with this gala also

[00:12:21] because this whole joke thing happened and everybody basically unleashed all their goodness

[00:12:30] on Twitter and they were just like oh Shah Rukh and then like at the actual video came out and people

[00:12:35] were just like guys it's a joke like it relaxes a little bit you might not like the joke but

[00:12:41] it's not the end of the world you know and like people yeah yeah people yeah I don't like joke

[00:12:47] I don't like jokes people on Twitter were literally going like you know how come like Shah Rukh never

[00:12:54] gets called out blah blah blah and I'm like because you call him out for the wrong things all the time

[00:12:59] like this is not what you should have called him out for because on the third night what happened was

[00:13:04] he he Salman and Amir got on the stage and they began dancing to not to not to except they

[00:13:12] were doing the Hindi version which is nacho nacho and it's like the worst version but anyway they

[00:13:17] were dancing and then they decided Shah Rukh decided to call up Ram Charan who was in the audience

[00:13:24] and he called up Ram Charan in this very see the thing that you need to understand is that Shah Rukh

[00:13:29] is a middle-aged uncle from Delhi okay he dresses really cool he makes like you know big bang

[00:13:36] movies and blah blah blah and everybody loves him etc etc but he is a middle-aged uncle from

[00:13:42] Delhi which you need to understand when you come to like certain things no he is an uncle but he's

[00:13:50] one of the nicer uncles you know you know the uncle is not bad that's the uncle you know like

[00:13:55] and then he's a little bit of a help in the kitchen you know like Salman that one uncle

[00:14:00] but the thing is like you need like I grew up in Delhi and I'm telling you like there is a certain

[00:14:05] breed of Punjabi uncle who thinks it's very funny to make fun of South Indians they don't mean it

[00:14:12] in a racist way they don't like if you told them it's racist they'd be like hall like I'm sorry

[00:14:18] like I didn't mean it that way okay I have to push back on this Shah Rukh is a known offender with

[00:14:23] this nonsense right like okay because on the Chennai Express he was like all like Shah Rukh he like

[00:14:29] if you've seen my career of 20 years you know I've never intentionally hurt it I was like dude

[00:14:34] you were dressed up like a Japanese person with Juiciao not making Changwin but you know like

[00:14:43] but when it comes to South Indians like Delhi uncles are like it's a weird thing where

[00:14:49] there are extra races to South Indians that they like and I know this because I'm a South

[00:14:55] Indian that grew up in South Delhi and was surrounded by Punjabi uncles and this is the behavior

[00:15:02] everybody is a madrasi everybody is a madrasi there will be like jokes about Samba there'll be like

[00:15:08] a Samba as they call it or you know it's a very specific Delhi uncle thing that I've noticed my

[00:15:16] entire life and is it nice no it's not but do I do I know where he gets it from yes 100% I

[00:15:24] get appreciated no so Shah Rukh gets on stage and he calls up Ramcharan and he's calling and I

[00:15:35] completely believe that he you know he's very fond of Ramcharan and etc like you know like I get

[00:15:41] all of that and he calls up Ramcharan and makes like these Idli Dosa or Samba I don't know what the

[00:15:47] f*** he was saying but some sort of like gibberish and that's how he calls Ramcharan on stage

[00:15:53] and immediately all the telugu was like wait a minute why did he say that and now that was a

[00:16:02] actual like you know problematic thing for Shah Rukh to say and like do but because everyone had already

[00:16:10] spent like two days frothing at the mouth about this joke that he didn't even mean

[00:16:17] they had like no energy left to actually like you know have a discourse about like oh like maybe

[00:16:23] you shouldn't be like talking to people about this Sabao Pritzkathamuga so now Shah Rukh lives to

[00:16:30] be racist another day you know that's basically what's going on but like we as chandan people

[00:16:39] right we have to be ever so thankful to the amvani's for bringing what Bollywood couldn't do which

[00:16:45] is bringing Amir Salman and Shah Rukh together on stage and dance to not show and

[00:16:51] Is this the amvani's is this the reason because the amvani's brought them together or is the reason

[00:16:58] because Sags of Hindustan and Lal Singh Chhada have flopped consecutively that this happened like

[00:17:04] I want to know what is the reason also I just want everyone to google pictures of Amir at the

[00:17:13] at Jamnagar and I want you to know that you can't blame me for making fun of this man like you cannot

[00:17:23] blame me when he chooses to go out in public dress like that I'm sorry but like you know this is just

[00:17:31] this is just bait and I'm gonna take it every time I'm sorry

[00:17:35] but I think sujoe was the most happy out of all of us from seeing these three men together right

[00:17:45] sujeeh yeah I was more happy because Salman was dancing like he hasn't danced like that in ages

[00:17:52] and he was teaching choreography to both the other hands and they were like Amir was so easily giving

[00:17:58] up and he was like too rare either too far and he was like don't leave without dancing this step

[00:18:04] and they made the whole choreography work and that's what we've always pointed out right like Salman

[00:18:12] performs at a different level when he's around his peers versus like when he's around the

[00:18:18] chunumunno that he's the one who does the clips

[00:18:27] I actually didn't even watch any of those clips I was like I'm such an anti-capitalist like I cannot

[00:18:35] stand it like I cannot stand it like this expression of wealth like rich people like I just

[00:18:41] physically sickened me I do not care about it like I like I just hate all of it and the thing I don't

[00:18:47] know if like we were having the discussion yesterday were they paired to this event or not and I don't

[00:18:55] think they were I don't think they were because a culturally speaking I don't think they would offer

[00:19:02] money and they wouldn't take the money like this was culturally would not work that way right but

[00:19:08] being there will give them access to so many favors and connections then the money would like be

[00:19:16] nothing compared to that right like famously sharu performs at weddings for a huge sum of money

[00:19:23] right but it's different with the ambani's like the ambani's and sharu's and everybody in bollywood

[00:19:28] go away back you know and especially now with them being such a powerful media house in the

[00:19:34] formal geostudeos and geophilms they have acquired Disney hotstar they like Disney hotstar 60% is owned by

[00:19:42] Geo now and yeah that's a huge huge thing so all of this makes sense now even if there wasn't

[00:19:49] not even a single rupee was you know exchanged it all makes sense like a mani went on stage and

[00:19:55] introduced sharu as anant's godfather like godfather I have no idea what is that

[00:20:09] also like what we saw on like during those three days was basically class solidarity right like it

[00:20:16] was just a bunch of billionaires getting together and being rich together like that was basically all

[00:20:21] that was and but it was funny though because like a lot of people were still making fun of

[00:20:28] bollywood people when they were being dragged as baratis in a bus and he was like aha look at

[00:20:33] this rich people ambani's are way richer than you and I'm like goddhika that's what we

[00:20:38] you know yeah it's such projection like it's such projection like you feel lesser by these bollywood

[00:20:47] stars and now you want somebody richer to show them their place it's like why do you feel lesser

[00:20:53] than bollywood stars like I don't like where does the dynamic first of all come from like I don't

[00:20:58] know it's I it's more a glance into like the desi psyche yeah the discussion around it and all of

[00:21:06] the kind of like feelings we have of diminishment and like our value in society and towards rich

[00:21:13] people and like I think I texted it to you like it was some I think it was on viral bhaiyani whatever

[00:21:22] his name is instagram page like the paparazzi's has it received like a tray of food and they would

[00:21:30] like look at these amazing ambani's they take care of everybody and I was like an airline food

[00:21:36] plate and I was like man this is like a literal minimum that you can do like I don't understand

[00:21:41] like it's javnagar there's not even like a Starbucks nearby right you're like sitting there

[00:21:46] near our oil refinery you know in the heat photographing these people but it's just this idea of

[00:21:54] us being so subservient to rich people you know and that just annoys the crap out of me I do not

[00:22:01] understand why this feeling doesn't go away in desi people just get like you know anybody rich

[00:22:07] anybody white anybody you know like more than you he's just like you know put your nose on the ground

[00:22:12] and start rubbing it like you know high high might you know my lord my lord and I cannot stand it

[00:22:18] maybe it's just because I'm you know I grew up in Europe or what not I just cannot stand it it annoys

[00:22:25] annoys everything in me there were a few other things that happened in javnagar right Kangana

[00:22:29] did not get invited just wanted to ask that she was nowhere to be seen Katrina K for invited

[00:22:37] she looked amazing a buck a million million dollars and she did not want to be there she just

[00:22:42] like wanted to leave straight away I could feel her I would kindred spirit with Katrina and also the

[00:22:48] jade dosanj performed which was I think the better life performance and kareena was on stage dancing

[00:22:54] on it and that was bomb I want to see that life that would have been something it was really sweet what

[00:23:00] he said also so do you want to say what he said today I have

[00:23:07] said that you know are Beyonce Rihanna like he said in Punjabi my Punjabi spoken Punjabi is a

[00:23:14] little terrible so I won't inflict it on you but he said like are Beyonce Rihanna like all of

[00:23:19] that is Kadeena only like you know like she's the one and and that is and then actually a great

[00:23:28] segue to some of the trailers that we have watched yes actually I was going to say I think there's a

[00:23:35] good it's in a way it's also very smart tie up right like having kareena on stage and then

[00:23:42] have dropping a song which is straight up banger he just sang Nana I think it's called for

[00:23:52] the crew so in a way it's a really good tie up too when you think about you know these brandy

[00:23:57] isn't stuff like that by the way also Diljeet did his own commentary on the Jamuna

[00:24:03] that event which I really think we should watch because it's amazing it might be a bit very Punjabi

[00:24:09] so you might not get all of the joke and I don't think there's all subtitles and you probably

[00:24:13] wouldn't get all the subtitles even but that is a great event and also shout out to charisma being

[00:24:17] on there not only kareena but you know I'm a Beyonce charisma you know like that kind of

[00:24:23] absolutely oh god so yeah first a few trailers dropped and we want to talk about the crew first

[00:24:31] this is the movie that we got instead of the kareena Priyanka

[00:24:40] that is our alia movie we didn't we're not going to get that unfortunately anymore we are getting

[00:24:46] this and I'm very excited for this I didn't I didn't understand that this would be a high-smooth

[00:24:54] me like you know like it's from the trailer it seems like it's like a high-smooth between

[00:24:59] these three women and that is like pretty cool and amazing concept I didn't think that's where

[00:25:05] there was gonna go but what did you think of the trailer it's a trailer right it's not a teaser

[00:25:11] yeah it is a teaser it's a teaser yeah okay what did you think I mean I continue to be like really

[00:25:19] impressed with the couple sisters for putting their money where their mouth is you know like they

[00:25:24] these two women was just like we need more female content and they were just like we're gonna make

[00:25:29] it and they make it fun they make it commercial they're not doing like Yukari or at

[00:25:35] Zamanikya Zunse Ludriya Akali and then you know like Uzkisadyeh Hadzao

[00:25:41] Tahe like that's not the kind of cinema they're making they're making movies about like modern women

[00:25:47] who have like strong female friendships and are like up to like very unlikeable things as well

[00:25:54] as fun things and I enjoy that and it's done really well at least the ones that have seen so far

[00:26:01] like you know I've always enjoyed everything from like Ayesha to what was the last one that came out

[00:26:09] the Bumi Bumi, the Bumi partner one that was directed by Karan Bulani who's married to Riyakao.

[00:26:15] Thank you for coming thank you for coming it's sometimes there's a little bit hit or miss

[00:26:22] like thank you for coming was a little bit of a miss for me but it was still like way better

[00:26:27] than about 90% of the stuff that comes out you know like it was fun and of course

[00:26:31] in this movie you have Karina and you have Tabu and that is all I need like I don't need anything else

[00:26:37] I like there's that little interaction where taboos like Abbaskar man Ketna Foundation

[00:26:43] Dali Ji Foundation and it's not foundation it's foundation or a time machine

[00:26:48] yeah and then Karina is like it's foundation it's not Karina like that is like the best thing like

[00:26:54] I can just see the relationship between the two of them uh I know there were like people who

[00:26:59] were complaining that they wouldn't see too much of Krutti especially in the Nena song

[00:27:05] and I want to say to those people that actually you did see a lot of Krutti like Krutti I don't

[00:27:09] think she's being shot changed at all uh it's just that Karina. I thought you saw less of Tabu in

[00:27:16] exactly in Maya yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think she wasn't also styled correctly I felt taboos in that

[00:27:21] song yeah there's something weird going on and I'm gonna this seems weird and I wasn't sure if taboos

[00:27:28] just not used to these kind of songs because we don't we don't see her or there's something going on

[00:27:32] in the styling I thought Krutti is like I went you know on the Krutti train for a long time

[00:27:40] and I loving this moment she's grabbing I love you know uh Krutti she saw opening she says

[00:27:49] Alia is pregnant I'm gonna release five movies you know what I come just gonna go in

[00:27:54] to take over this world and I think she's doing it you know like she's got this one she just had a

[00:27:59] hit with Tehri Batom and two two Patis coming with Kajal you know even that trailer looks amazing by

[00:28:05] the way we're not gonna talk about it now we can talk about it later on. I love this Krutti

[00:28:09] sun and Renaissance that's going on I am really sorry I joked with Varun and called her Chubaka

[00:28:15] Chubaka once but I love her she's amazing that's a story for another day

[00:28:24] So Joa what did you think of the Krutti?

[00:28:26] Gods gods of calling Krutti sun and Chubaka oh my god so what is that make Varun he's R2

[00:28:36] because he's tiny she didn't get it she's not a star wars person so it was fine

[00:28:40] so yeah minus one points I just watched the trailer to be honest I yeah on mute

[00:28:51] everything is just visuals from me that's all you need

[00:28:55] that's what like I have women dogs Joa what is this

[00:29:02] guys that was our guys I'm you heard guys

[00:29:05] I just can't understand

[00:29:13] don't shout at me

[00:29:23] I just checked who's the director and he's directed loot case before this which I really like

[00:29:28] actually with Kunal Kymu and yeah I'm looking forward to it

[00:29:34] it looks like a high-small movie which again is one of my favorite genres and to watch

[00:29:38] Karina and Tabu share screen together it'll be a background I'm going to cinema to watch this

[00:29:44] like I'm not even gonna wait for you know theater I'm gonna watch like these women on screen

[00:29:50] like on a big screen that's what they deserve that's what I want you know that's what I want in life

[00:29:54] so the crew is definitely gonna get covered on handan as a main review second trailer that came out

[00:30:00] Yodha is that the one we want to talk about do you want to talk about Yodha

[00:30:06] that's the question I want I want I want to talk about Yodha because it clearly saw the trailer

[00:30:14] of the fighter and it is hiding its Islamophobia with so much effort like it's so strange

[00:30:22] like we have hijackers but we don't know who these hijackers are where I think from you know

[00:30:29] like hide it so well but I gotta say being the positive part about it the action looks really good

[00:30:37] like in like Siddharh, shit now I'm like more than Siddharth is it's the Molozra yeah he's back into that

[00:30:49] a gentleman kind of action zone and I like this zone for him I think he has a really good

[00:30:54] good physicality to do this but that's kind of the only and I do like kind of like a passenger 57

[00:31:04] Bruce Willis kind of movie and I don't think enough of those get made if people like that genre

[00:31:12] I still recommend watching sonak with with your Jamwal which is an amazing diehard kind of movie

[00:31:17] not enough people have watched it and I like it again I don't there's gonna be Islamophobia

[00:31:26] in this for sure like it's gonna be anti-Pakistan and suffrive that and I think let's see how much of

[00:31:31] it will be the thing is they've not put it on the forefront of the marketing which fighter did

[00:31:37] and I think fighter did a big mistake of doing that but yeah what did you guys think of Yodha

[00:31:44] Sudha? Do you remember the Kurt Russell's Steven Seagawa movie that came out in the 90s

[00:31:50] exactly the decision oh yeah it kind of reminded me of that and for a weird thing

[00:31:57] and like I grew up watching those 80s bad 90s bad as a movie and that was another one

[00:32:03] yeah of course one clear and present day the Harrison Ford movie yeah yeah

[00:32:10] yeah yeah yeah I'm like if you do those movies really well and deliver on the

[00:32:17] Paul absolutely on board but yeah

[00:32:20] Thora Kama Islamophobia please I don't know it just feels like a Netflix movie to me

[00:32:25] hmm also

[00:32:29] oh so again

[00:32:31] thanks for bringing us down over to that

[00:32:34] sorry

[00:32:37] I don't think I'm gonna watch this in theaters this is not going to be a theater experience for me

[00:32:41] so it's gonna be a oho movie yeah I don't think Siddharth has reached theater level yet

[00:32:49] he's not taboored can he not to get it but it's not his not with the jama yeah right of course not

[00:32:56] I'm still annoyed that I missed crack I had the ticket and all yeah I was always going to go

[00:33:03] okay any other trailers that came out no I think that's it now

[00:33:07] yeah okay we watched a bunch of shit like there was a lot of stuff especially when we don't

[00:33:13] we don't record for two weeks time we just have a bunch of stuff that we can talk about I watched

[00:33:19] I watched the lot of shows and I quit a lot of shows I didn't go through with a lot of them

[00:33:26] I watched the first episode of poacher has anybody watched that one

[00:33:30] I started watching and then I fell asleep because I was watching it in subtitles with marialium

[00:33:36] is it the original language and yeah it was like yeah I was not in that best of my health so

[00:33:43] I want to watch it but I don't know when I'll get around to watching it because the kind of subject

[00:33:50] matter it is it requires a certain mental state for you for me to watch it and I'm not there

[00:33:57] right now like this month is like kind of hard for me so I don't know when I watch it

[00:34:03] yeah it kind of was on my radar because of our friend Sucin's show a streaming with Sucin he had

[00:34:10] a very good interview with Ritchie Metta who was the creator of the show and he also made a Delhi

[00:34:16] crime which I know Amrit amrit are recommended I still haven't watched it because of the subject matter

[00:34:22] so also I know Ali Abhat is producing this show so it was on my radar and I started watching

[00:34:28] and I think prime has done a terrible job in promoting the actual drop of the show because the

[00:34:34] show was already on the platform for like a week or something and I had I totally missed it

[00:34:38] it not appeared on it I watched one episode it's intense and it's very interesting because

[00:34:47] it is kind of a murder mystery who done it kind of situation but within ecological theme in it

[00:34:54] which is something I hadn't really seen before it is an intense one it's not going to be a

[00:35:00] light watch and the thing is I just don't want to say this in a dismissive way but ecology is not

[00:35:12] the top of my priorities a lot of times like it's not like I like this certain

[00:35:18] tragedies in the world that's going on and maybe it's just an age thing I know when younger people

[00:35:23] there are a lot more worried about you know the world at the state we are and ecology and stuff

[00:35:27] like global warming and stuff like that I might be too uncle and too old to care as much about it

[00:35:32] and the themes just doesn't hit as much for me but it is really well made so for sure

[00:35:38] I just don't know if I have the bandwidth to continue watching it I know that Succin really loved

[00:35:45] it so I think he's probably has a good review out there so check that out I don't know if you guys

[00:35:49] are watching it Amrita do you have any interest in it? I will watch it just not right now

[00:35:57] yeah yeah okay the second episode show that I watched was a love story on Prime also

[00:36:07] this is produced by Dharmah and it's basically short documentaries about people and the

[00:36:18] and their love stories basically it's that what was that was it

[00:36:25] Dilto Pagal hai or Rabne Banadhi Jodi while before the movie starts you have people

[00:36:30] interviewing their couples and stuff like that you know

[00:36:34] in Dilto Pagal hai the Iq Duje Ke Vast hai they have like the footage of a real life oppose

[00:36:40] I think we've seen it a few times but I think basically it's that we're in documentary format

[00:36:45] and it's six different episodes I watched the first one and I thought it was really really cool

[00:36:52] I just don't fair I didn't feel compared to watch the rest of it

[00:36:57] and that's just because I don't like necessarily anthology stories like you know it's not my thing

[00:37:03] so I watched one episode and I think that was it it I might return to it when I have absolutely

[00:37:11] nothing to watch or I'm like I have 40 minutes left what can I watch you know that might be the case

[00:37:18] but it is well made and it is very sweet it's a good well made show but yeah there's just too much

[00:37:26] going on there's just too much content so I didn't have a chance to finish it and the last thing

[00:37:34] I watched one episode again of is I'm trying to find the exact name yeah the Indrani Mukherjee story

[00:37:44] the buried truth oh I want to watch that what the hell do you watch that I want to watch it

[00:37:50] okay I watched one episode of this and I don't know anything about this case like I don't

[00:37:58] I don't know who this lady is I didn't I wasn't you know I didn't follow it I was in India I didn't

[00:38:03] follow news I didn't know yeah if you were in India you could not escape this case tell me what

[00:38:10] happened if you can oh my god I'm not exactly sure on the details either but the the people who are

[00:38:17] involved are supposedly high society people the Peter Mukherjee who is at the who is Indrani's ex-husband

[00:38:25] I think now he used to be the CEO of star India back in the day when like star was completely changing

[00:38:33] its image so he was like one of the main players who brought kbc to India and all the kukisaz

[00:38:40] we were with and their collaboration with Bala Jita the things happen so Peter Mukherjee was this big

[00:38:45] media figure and I think there was this whole mythology around the presence of this man that he

[00:38:53] could approach Amitabha Chen and all of that and then Indrani Mukherjee was seen as this high society

[00:38:59] player who sort of trapped him and then got married Indrani made had this daughter from a previous

[00:39:06] marriage and then I think the murder mysteries are on whether did did she kill her daughter or not

[00:39:13] all of that and they have all been released now not guilty and all of that no the case is still

[00:39:20] ongoing so that is like why a lot of people are shocked by the series which is the case is still

[00:39:26] ongoing and in the middle of it she gets to create this this show where she's like oh actually

[00:39:32] and totally innocent which she I mean she's a complete narcissist like you can just see it

[00:39:39] and she has like this woman's gangster they put her in prison and she she basically

[00:39:50] like formed a union of the her fellow prisoners like women prisoners and they agitated for like

[00:39:57] better conditions in the prison and stuff like that by the time she the issue was released on parole

[00:40:03] apparently the prison authorities were like really happy to see the back of her because they

[00:40:08] were just like wow this woman's like troubled like can you imagine how bad as if you have to be

[00:40:16] for like an Indian prison to be like my god yeah I'm so glad you're leaving like yeah

[00:40:25] she's like Jawadhi from the inside leaving prison that's basically who she is and then she like

[00:40:33] apparently like God this documentary made where she's just like oh like I'm a victim actually

[00:40:38] and the reason and there's also a lot of rumors about like why she was released from prison on

[00:40:45] parole because she came out with like a whole bunch of accusations against like opposition party

[00:40:54] members etc she was just like this person has done this this person has done that etc so she

[00:40:59] tried to turn like witness in like several cases etc so yeah that woman's a play or I don't

[00:41:09] know how long they're going to keep the documentary up but I want to see it because apparently

[00:41:16] you know she's unhinged in it so I want to watch it what's funny though it's also like the whole

[00:41:22] that whole year like times now and republic and all arch that everybody was on it like running

[00:41:30] constant stories about these two people and the death of the the daughter and it was just nuts

[00:41:36] like how intense that coverage was you could not escape that yeah it's it's pretty crazy I didn't

[00:41:44] know anything about the the thing for so I was like on the first episode I was on a while right

[00:41:49] like wait it's not the it's not the sister is the daughter like what what's going on like the

[00:41:54] the daughter is the sister and the sister is the daughter and the son is the uncle I was like who

[00:41:59] what what so I was just kind of trying to find my bearings you know there's also amazing to see

[00:42:08] like that you know proper journalist like Rajdeep Sarasai are on this documentary talking about

[00:42:16] the case when they've actually literally covered the case so it feels really weird I didn't know that

[00:42:21] so I only watched one episode and I didn't know that this documentary was then going to be a

[00:42:26] mouthpiece for Rani herself so she appears later in the episodes so I haven't gotten that far

[00:42:35] but I have to say like true crime and things like that is not really my genre

[00:42:40] I thought and I feel it key about the journalistic practices of this Netflix thing

[00:42:48] and then the Bani thing happening at Jamnagar the same time I was like I'm done with rich people

[00:42:53] yeah I just like their problems like let them you know live or die with them I don't care so

[00:43:00] I you guys watch it let me know if I should continue after watching episode one

[00:43:05] I don't think I'll be watching it and the moment I have no compelling reason to do that

[00:43:08] I think I did also see a Sachin review his review on it and he said I could basically skip

[00:43:15] to the last episode and watch the first episode and I should get the story so I'm

[00:43:20] I do that but I want to hear what you guys think when you are finally watch the Indra Nimo

[00:43:25] story that's it what did you watch Amrita I watched La Patta ladies

[00:43:33] number one fan Amrita

[00:43:38] I'm here to do a rumor but I asked him as the number one Amr Khan fan how many times did you

[00:43:44] watch La Patta ladies but this is like a way to stop the fact that I watch the note because I was

[00:43:53] laughed I don't understand it what's the note book it is a movie producer by someone

[00:44:09] yeah which notebook there with the with the Nuten's a

[00:44:17] a daughter on a lake.

[00:44:19] Thank you.

[00:44:20] What?

[00:44:21] Isn't it called the notebook?

[00:44:23] Is that moving or not?

[00:44:25] Or they just copy the notebook, wait, let me just find the name of them.

[00:44:30] Please go ahead with La Patta ladies.

[00:44:33] I'll try to find the name of them.

[00:44:35] So it was really cute.

[00:44:37] Like I highly recommend La Patta ladies to everybody.

[00:44:39] I think it's turned out to be a bit of a hit.

[00:44:43] And I'm really glad for Kiran Rao and everybody that's involved in this particular venture.

[00:44:56] It's the guy from Jhampara.

[00:45:00] Do you know the series?

[00:45:04] Like I didn't watch it, but I know the series.

[00:45:05] I heard of it, yes.

[00:45:07] And they're all really good actors and it's like set in 2001.

[00:45:14] Everybody in it is, like the politics is very present as we would expect from a Kiran Rao

[00:45:22] movie, but it's not preachy.

[00:45:26] And it's not, like there's, it's pretty funny.

[00:45:30] Ravi Kishan is hilarious.

[00:45:34] And pretty much they're really good in creating this world as it must have existed in the year

[00:45:42] 2001.

[00:45:45] And it is, it's heartbreaking at times.

[00:45:49] It's maddening at times and overall, it's very funny.

[00:45:55] And I don't want to like, I mean the trailer will tell you what it is about.

[00:46:00] It's basically this man maddies, this woman and they're coming back to his place when

[00:46:07] they take this really clouded train.

[00:46:10] And in the train he gets confused and leaves his wife sleeping and makes off with like

[00:46:18] another man's bride.

[00:46:20] And then he somehow needs to find his actual wife.

[00:46:25] And in the meantime, his wife is getting an education in what it means to be out of her

[00:46:34] family home basically.

[00:46:36] You know, like what it means to be a full human being rather than like somebody's daughter

[00:46:40] or somebody's wife, et cetera.

[00:46:44] So it's a very interesting film I thought.

[00:46:49] I really wanted to go by the way, the movie is called a notebook.

[00:46:52] I am that big of a fan that I do remember some forgettable movie from four years ago.

[00:47:00] Basically my theater is just like screwed up with timings and I just couldn't make it.

[00:47:04] But I also started feeling very quickly that this might be a streaming movie too.

[00:47:09] I don't know is that like, I don't feel it's a theatrical experience necessarily.

[00:47:14] What do you think of it?

[00:47:15] Yeah, you're right.

[00:47:16] Like, you can watch the zone streaming and I would be just as good.

[00:47:21] Is it that good that you're going to be talking about it at the end of the year?

[00:47:25] Like, at the end of the year, like top movies is slap with that.

[00:47:29] It is that good.

[00:47:30] It will be in the conversation.

[00:47:32] And I think the reason why I liked it as a theatrical experience is because the audience

[00:47:38] that I watched it with was really into it.

[00:47:42] So I went for a really late show and it was just like a whole bunch of people who were

[00:47:49] from...

[00:47:50] In the movie, they say like, you know, this entire thing happens in a fictional state called

[00:47:55] Nirmal Pradesh.

[00:47:56] So that nobody would make any kind of noise.

[00:48:02] But there were a lot of people who identified with Nirmal Pradesh in the theater and they

[00:48:10] clearly understood the environment that was being depicted on screen.

[00:48:18] They were in on the joke as well.

[00:48:21] So that made a difference.

[00:48:23] It was really nice to be with that crowd.

[00:48:25] And there was this group of women that were sitting behind us that were just providing

[00:48:30] commentary at everything that happened to the women.

[00:48:33] And I watched it with a woman friend of mine as well and we just really enjoyed it.

[00:48:41] But at the end of the movie, everybody gave a little smattering of applause and it was

[00:48:45] really cute.

[00:48:46] Oh nice, how nice.

[00:48:50] It feels like a movie for people that Rocky Ranjhava is living with his in-laws, you know,

[00:48:59] that kind of crowd, you know, where he has to sing and it feels like a bit like that.

[00:49:06] But now I am excited as soon as it drops on streaming unless it's dropping on, you know,

[00:49:11] something like that because you had to dance at the wedding which would suck.

[00:49:15] But I am looking forward to watching this movie if I can.

[00:49:19] So Joy, you watched both lots of things in your Bimari.

[00:49:22] Amitya, you were done right?

[00:49:24] Did you have anything else?

[00:49:27] The other things I can say for the Amali Alam section.

[00:49:30] Yeah, okay.

[00:49:33] So Joy, what did you watch?

[00:49:35] So I pretty much binge watched four episodes of Showtime which is a Dharma production that's

[00:49:42] dropped on Hotstar and they've done this weird thing that they did with the Night Manager

[00:49:47] as well, which yeah, they've released like the four episodes of the first half and the

[00:49:51] second half comes in June and by that time nobody will even care about this.

[00:49:56] But I've pretty much enjoyed it.

[00:49:58] It's a very easy watch and everybody is having a blast pretty much.

[00:50:05] So it revolves around Victory Studios, a fictional studios pretty much on the scale of Dharma

[00:50:12] probably which was started by Victory, Victor Kanna played by Nasrith and Shah.

[00:50:20] And you know, he back in the day, he was one of the pioneer showmen of the industry and

[00:50:26] then he went on to make something called Iman Eishk or Iman Eishk and I think that pretty

[00:50:35] much bankrupted the studio.

[00:50:37] And then his son who he's played by Imran Ashmi and he plays a character called Raghukhanna

[00:50:43] is like this really cocky producer and he's been making pretty much sold this Ram Jhani

[00:50:49] kind of movies, I guess, to make the studio a float and making lots of blogpastas but

[00:50:56] terribly reviewed movies.

[00:50:58] And then the third main character of this show is somebody called Maika Nandhi who is

[00:51:05] the minor spoilers illegitimate or child of Nasrithin or the grandchild of Nasrithin

[00:51:14] from his like unknown marriage in the past but then things happen and then Victor Kanna

[00:51:21] before he dies in his will basically leaves the studio to Maika Nandhi and this whole

[00:51:27] outsider who she used to be a showbiz journalist and she's thrown in the midst of all this drama

[00:51:34] that is surrounding this film studio and she has to make ends with you know, she has to negotiate

[00:51:40] with producers and negotiate with directors and actors.

[00:51:45] And one of the main ones is somebody called Arman Singh played by Rajiv Khandelwal and he plays

[00:51:51] this very exaggerated version of Rajesh Kanna but now kind of a guy and like you know the

[00:52:02] hero ego versus the directors and then there's politics, there's all of that happening.

[00:52:10] There's Vijay Rao as well as a film distributor I think who also runs like a Daru business.

[00:52:18] Yeah, there's lots of drama and like little tidbits of the film industry which I guess

[00:52:27] Dharmaha is privy too you know and they are men dropping names. There's Tamios, there's

[00:52:33] Janvi in one episode for like 10 minutes and they talk like it's quite fun. It's a very

[00:52:39] very easy watch but my only problem is like four episodes aq Dalagar Dalagar then you release it

[00:52:45] on a weekly basis perhaps if you want to continue the conversation going but otherwise if you are

[00:52:52] cutting this season into two halves I don't think people will be as excited like you know

[00:52:59] public memory just fades. It's on hot star

[00:53:06] yeah and like Imran Ashmi is having like in the best of times in this movie is

[00:53:13] chewing scenery left right and center and I enjoy watching him do that. Nice nice nice nice

[00:53:19] I was planning to watch this but I just had so much to do and outside is not one of those

[00:53:25] platforms I easily go to to watch things you know and yeah but also it just does feel like these

[00:53:32] are just stories from Dharmaha's group chat you know I'm like yeah pretty much yeah I didn't know

[00:53:39] I was split up in two seasons and I think is a terrible idea. I who was a fan of Night Manager didn't

[00:53:46] even watch the second half of Night Manager just because of the way that you know it was released so

[00:53:52] yeah the world just moves on so I just don't think this is a good strategy at all to release shows

[00:53:56] this way. What else did you watch today? So before I you know went on well I did go to the cinema

[00:54:06] to watch two Mali Ale movies which is a rarity for me but I'm really the hype the heck out of both

[00:54:11] of them. The first one is Mohan Lal movie, the second one is a Mahmuti movie and I was like this

[00:54:17] hasn't happened ever like I haven't watched either of these maybe like I watched company at the

[00:54:23] cinema which was many many years ago and that's not necessarily just a Mohan Lal movie but yeah

[00:54:29] Mohan Lal doing like a hero hero kind of a movie in a movie directed by Lijoyo Jose

[00:54:35] Palisari who's I think directed Jalika too as well right that I watched the cinema. I wasn't

[00:54:44] expecting like I expected Lijoyo Jose Palisari and Mohan Lal to make certain kind of a cinema and

[00:54:50] I wasn't expecting this this almost felt like Kamal Hassan movie and he would do great in a remake

[00:54:58] of Malai Kuttavalevan and this movie was firing on all cylinders man like I don't know how much

[00:55:05] this movie cost because there is like no expenses left on the table like everything's green

[00:55:13] pedal you know it like from the first frame till the last it has so much ambition and so much

[00:55:20] storytelling so much drama and like actions and like there's influences from Kurosawa to

[00:55:28] Usha movies and there's Portuguese colonizers being kicked their asses and yeah and the love story

[00:55:39] the betrayal the colors the cinematography it was amazing I like I cannot hype this movie

[00:55:46] enough after watching this Asim did you watch it I did I did so both of these movies were talking about

[00:55:53] we me and Amrita already spoke about on our patreon specials so we went in detail with both of

[00:55:58] these movies I do have to say it's amazing you know Mahan Lal doing great work Amitabh making

[00:56:08] spice ads and treating how to pack t-shirts you know it's living legends all you know like it's amazing

[00:56:16] yeah like Malai Kuttavalevan we like Asim said we've discussed this on the patreon but we like I

[00:56:26] knew from the get go that this was a movie that Sujoy would love like I came back and I was just

[00:56:32] like Sujoy you gotta watch this it was honestly nothing that I expected every single frame every

[00:56:40] single step of the plot was absolutely unexpected for me like I did not expect any of those things

[00:56:49] to happen I think there's a point where like they suddenly break into a Hindi song and I was just

[00:56:55] like what is happening like the friend that I watched it with is Amalya Amalya Amalya am loving

[00:57:02] happening in the middle of all of her and it's actually so the lamin is actually performed by

[00:57:10] Sunali Kulkarni who performed in Nathrang with Atul Kulkarni no the other Sunali Kulkarni

[00:57:19] no no this is the other Sunali Kulkarni who's like very famous in the Maharashtrian scene

[00:57:26] and there's a song called Upsara Ali like even if you you don't follow Marathi Senema at all you've

[00:57:32] heard of this particular song it's by Ajay Atul and she like she basically does like a

[00:57:40] a reprise to that like it's sort of like an homage to that like that's what I mean when I said

[00:57:45] that this movie is basically an homage to Senema as a whole because it's literally everything

[00:57:51] that Lijjo Jho's palisady has seen in his life he's basically said that you know this is what I

[00:57:56] love the most about this particular thing so he's dressed up Mohan Lal as a Samurai he's sort of

[00:58:04] there's like this um this fight sequence that you know it makes you think of like Usha movies

[00:58:11] like all these things that happen you're just like I I don't know where he's getting this from but

[00:58:18] it is so much fun and I'm so glad I watched it on the big screen because the way this movie is shot

[00:58:26] the cinematography is gorgeous like even if you don't know anything about cinematography or about

[00:58:32] Senema it just like punches you in the face yeah it's probably one of be like if you are a fan of

[00:58:40] Tassan Singh for example like this is the movie that you should watch because it was just everything

[00:58:45] was just surreal and beautiful and I enjoyed it it's been a long time since I enjoyed

[00:58:50] the Mohan Lal movie and this one was just this one was just like so much fun yeah I got into the

[00:59:00] because you guys were so hyped and excited about this movie I was like I have to watch it straight

[00:59:03] away I liked it I didn't love it as much as you guys did but I think it's beautiful it's beautiful

[00:59:09] I think people should just watch it for the visuals even if you know if the story doesn't all make sense

[00:59:14] I think it's just the detachment from reality and any sort of physics and logic it just like becomes

[00:59:20] taxing after a while you know like like I was saying on the patreon episode there's an episode where

[00:59:25] they have like a spinning turret cannon gun oh yeah or either you're out at that point you know

[00:59:32] so that's kind of like the thing that's happening but yeah I mean it's an amazing thing like if

[00:59:37] you're a fan of cinema even just you have to watch this movie it's it's Mohan Lal's belly which

[00:59:43] is holding back the recoil of that gun yeah but like it's uh he's a strong fellow man Mohan Lal

[00:59:52] still like it's a belly and all that I can respect it but like dude can lift man it's like not

[00:59:57] you shouldn't like underestimate him but yeah I do recommend it I didn't love it as much as you

[01:00:02] guys did but I think and this movie also flopped so I was even speaking with a friend um

[01:00:08] uh who's a huge Mohan Lal fan and he didn't even know this movie had come out so like clearly it came

[01:00:14] and went very quickly um and I think again like because we're talking about so many different things

[01:00:20] this might get just like burnt under the buried under the rebel because you know there's just

[01:00:25] so much content and stuff like that but I do think people should watch it it's streaming on hot star

[01:00:30] and uh it's a beautiful beautiful movie um what was what was the other one you watched?

[01:00:37] uh the second one is a Mahmuti movie called Brahma Yugaum uh direct by Rahul Sadhasivan

[01:00:46] uh also story by him and this is a black and white horror folklore dark fantasy period movie

[01:00:55] set in 1717 I don't know 1717 yeah and and at the moment when this movie started I could feel like

[01:01:04] there are certain movies where you can feel the atmosphere like it makes you feel uncomfortable

[01:01:10] and your your breathing becomes like uneasy or not your heartbeat changes and everything like

[01:01:17] the the last time I watched it it certainly brought me back memories of watching Tumbara

[01:01:22] and that was the kind of vibe that I was having and it also has that you know the you know the

[01:01:31] the sort of it crosses the line or walks that line between fantasy and reality because it's

[01:01:37] sort of marrying history with folklore and like Mohan Lal plays this by Eri

[01:01:44] Mahmuti um character in this Mahmuti Mahmuti plays this like Eri Eri character in this movie which is

[01:01:54] like I got the creeps just by the look of his teeth you know and it was like he was

[01:02:00] he was omnipresent in this movie even if he wasn't in the frame like he could sense the dread um

[01:02:07] I can't exactly remember the exact plot of this movie like this guy who takes refuge in this house

[01:02:15] it's like hotel California you can you know enter but you can't leave or something like that and he

[01:02:20] was trying to get out of this house but he's now cursed because of the presence of this

[01:02:26] ghost who has taken over the family who used to be the owners of that house and then there's another

[01:02:34] servant who is present and they sort of form an alliance to escape this house and then the whole

[01:02:39] struggle is between these two mortals versus the ghost and then shit happens it's like

[01:02:46] gorgeously shot in black and white and like yeah if you like horror uh which are not jump scares

[01:02:52] which is more about atmosphere and and and like Mahmuti uh like he totally seems like still

[01:03:02] the scene every single time I really really really enjoyed it so I watched this without subtitles with

[01:03:10] my friend who's brutish and another friend who's american and I mean they they definitely

[01:03:18] struggle at certain places because there's a lot of like uh there's not a very talky movie like

[01:03:23] this is not like a movie that's driven by dialogue but the dialogue there are like certain points where

[01:03:30] um the older servant is providing context you know like what happened and like who is this uh

[01:03:37] entity that has taken over the house etc and to understand that you definitely do need subtitles

[01:03:44] but I like the more like when I watch this movie I really liked it and then as

[01:03:52] the further I get from this movie the more I like it because I just keep thinking about certain

[01:03:59] facets of this film and one of the things that it does is that it's very rooted in the

[01:04:05] social political context of karela in the 17th century so there are things that the you know

[01:04:12] you see the so the movies more or less um seen through the eyes of the young protagonist who is

[01:04:19] this very naive young man who stumbles across this house in the forest um and you kind of see like how

[01:04:29] he changes as the movie progresses and then he understands more of this world that he's in and

[01:04:38] it's so clever the way that they have shown the way that um you know he's losing when you see him he

[01:04:49] he's almost afraid to even criticize like he can tell immediately that there's something wrong

[01:04:54] with Mamuti's character but he is so mired in the cost situation in karela in the 17th century

[01:05:04] that he's afraid to even criticize uh you know the you know the the tamburan the you know the head of

[01:05:12] that household like he's afraid to criticize Mamuti because Mamuti is a high caste man

[01:05:18] and he like not even like outside of his hearing he's just like oh no like I shouldn't say anything

[01:05:24] and then as he loses his memory and his sense of self all that is left is humanity

[01:05:33] and that is when he's like no like this is wrong and there's a point in the in the towards the end

[01:05:39] of the film where the older servant is about to do something and he says no you can't do that

[01:05:47] because if you do it then that leaves a path open for this devil to continue to subjugate people

[01:05:56] like you and me and the journey of him going in the beginning of the film where he's like you know

[01:06:04] like I am a slave uh I don't have any rights you know I I don't even want to criticize or even think

[01:06:11] about criticizing somebody who is above me to the end of it where he's lost all set all history

[01:06:19] all memory of who he is and where he is but all that remains his humanity and that compels him

[01:06:26] to say that no actually I don't deserve to be treated like this and other people shouldn't be treated

[01:06:31] like this either um it's such there's uh yeah there's a scene where you know he gets asked

[01:06:41] what's your mother's name and he's like it's on the tip of his tongue but he can't tell it because

[01:06:47] he's lost that memory and then he cannot understand the sense of time whether it's been raining for

[01:06:54] three days or three years he doesn't know and the rain once the rain starts it's constant until

[01:06:59] the end it's just like the sort of that that eeriness of losing your self identity and losing all

[01:07:06] memory oh my god that that just you know center shivered on my spine there's a point where um

[01:07:13] mamuti like you know they're trying to kill the the devil and the devil basically throws up this

[01:07:19] this illusion and suddenly you see mamuti with like perfect teeth and you are just like

[01:07:27] you know like you know that that is an illusion because he's got this jacked up teeth until then

[01:07:34] and the way that mamuti like choose in this movie like oh my god like all of it is just like uh

[01:07:40] I'm not a huge horror fan but like I'll really enjoy this movie

[01:07:47] I want to watch it I'm waiting I think so I mean I like you I'm not a huge horror fan

[01:07:54] although I'm very excited to watch shetan with the jithaib been wiggly you know because that trailer

[01:07:58] looks pretty good um but I actually never watched tumba either um and I think that seems to be a

[01:08:05] reference that a lot of people are kind of like talking about um if it comes on streaming I'll

[01:08:09] definitely give it a shot um tumba ad is on streaming as him there there are no excuses

[01:08:15] no this is not tumba the uh the brama yugan the one you guys are talking brama yugan so I might catch

[01:08:21] it when it comes out and it just seems interesting like more than I like it or I won't like it

[01:08:25] I think it just seems something different and interesting uh so that's why it's kind of on my on

[01:08:30] my radar for sure I don't know when it's coming out on streaming them neither do I uh the other movie

[01:08:36] that I watched was manuel boys uh which is a movie that is taking Tamil Nadu by storm right now

[01:08:44] uh and this is again it's a malayalam movie all we are talking about is malayalam movies in

[01:08:50] this episode uh so manuel boys is it has that did you guys watch cum lagi cum lagi nights

[01:08:59] um is that the one with the three brothers yes yes yes yes yes yes yes i have yeah okay so

[01:09:06] though you know the brother the elder brother that has like a mental breakdown in that film

[01:09:11] yes so he's the one who like produced this film and is uh acting in it and etc and it's based on

[01:09:17] real life events where a bunch of young men from coachin go on uh they're like part of this hobby club

[01:09:25] and then they decide to take a little boy strip to Tamil Nadu and when they go to Tamil Nadu they end up

[01:09:33] in this place called kode khanal that has these very famous caves basically

[01:09:40] and then basically they behave like total idiots and one of them falls down this uh this pit

[01:09:49] and that nobody has come out of alive and then they need to basically decide whether they can

[01:09:57] save this person or if he's even alive or not uh so it's a very you know it's a very atmospheric film

[01:10:05] it's like an adventure thriller sort of a thing and it i wasn't sure when i went and watched it whether

[01:10:12] i would like it but i loved it like it was like that cave was gonna give me nightmares for the rest

[01:10:17] of my life like i'm gonna think about it like a long time like it's uh yeah it's very edge of your seat

[01:10:24] uh sort of a thing and it's basically a pain to you know um to male friendship um and to like

[01:10:32] courage and the fire and that kind of stuff but it's far because the scenario has listed it as comedy

[01:10:41] i guess like the beginning of it is funny i don't know like um yeah but i wouldn't say it's like a

[01:10:48] comedy i would i would say is adventure thriller like one of my most favorite horror movies is the

[01:10:57] descent and that movie still gives me claustrophobia thinking about cave dyes and all of that

[01:11:05] yeah i hate caves i hate caves i don't know why people go into them i do not understand it

[01:11:10] which you see that picture of that family man like he had like kids at home and he got stuck in this

[01:11:17] cave and it's like who does that i don't understand like uh you know asman kulai you know there's enough

[01:11:24] you know i don't understand why you want to go into a cave i do not understand it i get claustrophobia

[01:11:30] i don't know if this movie is gonna be for me i yeah it's just like nothing that doesn't appeal to

[01:11:36] be out all to see people go into a cave i thought the same and then i watched this and i was just like

[01:11:43] this is amazing uh because i also get claustrophobia and i would never go into a cave of my own accord but

[01:11:50] it was yeah like i and i'm also really glad that i saw this on the big screen because um the way like

[01:11:58] you know it's like it's like malekote valiban like you basically see the

[01:12:03] uh like it's it really transports you uh into that place you know and you really get a sense of just

[01:12:13] how terrible the events were and how amazing everything is and it was it's just like you know

[01:12:20] malia alamu is usually they just have like really good cinematography anyway but um yeah um

[01:12:26] if it's playing near you you should go watch another theater

[01:12:32] nice nice nice um i think we're done for this episode i think we covered a lot of stuff

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