Prema's F1 ambitions with Rene Rosin, Antonelli-Bearman & other F2 drivers in F1

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[00:01:23] F1 Podcast. Because today, folks, we have a man who leads a team that has brought the following drivers into Formula 1. Hear me out. This might be a slightly long list. Here are the drivers who have raced for Prema, who have then gone on to get in Formula 1.

[00:01:37] Esteban Ocon, Charles Leclerc, Kimi Antonelli, Lance Stroll, Pierre Gasly, Mick Schumacher, Oscar Piastri, now Oliver Behrman, Shoghuan Yu, Nick Tivris, Logan Sargent, Enzo Filippaldi, Jack Doohan.

[00:01:51] We have Robert Kubica, Lucas Di Grassi, Kami Kobayashi, Robert Romero-Domery, Antonio Gervinazzi, Nicholas Latifi.

[00:01:58] And in the past, Faltteri Bottas too. It's quite a list to have. And the man who's been running the team is right here with us.

[00:02:07] Ladies and gentlemen, we have Rene Rosin, the manager of the Prema Racing Outfit, not just in Formula 2, but overall, including their IndyCar outfit as well, is here with us.

[00:02:16] And Rene, what a pleasure it is to have you on. I want to very firstly ask you about that list.

[00:02:23] That's a good list of drivers that have come in from your team.

[00:02:26] Yeah, that's for sure. First of all, good morning, everybody.

[00:02:29] And I say good morning because I'm here in Indianapolis at the moment.

[00:02:32] So my time is quite early in the morning.

[00:02:36] Yes, you say just quite a lot of drivers that have been passing through us.

[00:02:41] Quite good memory came out in our minds from all the success, all the moments, all the victories that we had done with all of them.

[00:02:49] And it's a real pleasure and a real moment of, how can I say, to be proud of, to see all these drivers arriving in Formula 1.

[00:02:58] But not only in Formula 1, all the other professional category that there are in motorsports.

[00:03:04] I really want to ask you guys, I mean, just to ask you, Rene, about the aim and vision of you guys at Prema.

[00:03:11] Is it largely just to develop these drivers?

[00:03:13] Because if it is, that is such a great list of drivers you've put into Formula 1.

[00:03:18] And I'm not even counting the other drivers who have done really good outside of F1.

[00:03:22] But to be honest, our goal, of course, is to do our job in the best way as possible.

[00:03:27] Giving to drivers the max of our professionalism.

[00:03:30] Trying to give to drivers the best knowledge that we can give to them.

[00:03:34] Making them learning into their years with us.

[00:03:38] Of course, we are a junior team.

[00:03:40] So we are a team participating in all the ladder of motorsports.

[00:03:43] That is coming from karting, moving into all the other categories up to Formula 1.

[00:03:48] Sorry.

[00:03:49] So our job is, of course, to give them all the instrument to be ready year by year to be one day in Formula 1.

[00:03:58] Or to be one day professional.

[00:03:59] Because, of course, we must remember in motorsports, we don't need to focus only on Formula 1.

[00:04:04] For sure, Formula 1 is the most important pinnacle of motorsports.

[00:04:07] But there is also other categories, other situations that not everybody can go to Formula 1.

[00:04:12] So they can open doors in the professionalism world of motorsport.

[00:04:15] That can be also very, very important.

[00:04:18] But do you know, Rene, Prema, if it was in Hindi, the language we speak here in India, it would roughly translate to love.

[00:04:25] And that's the kind of really crazy coincidence that I come across.

[00:04:29] And I've always been thinking about this.

[00:04:30] The love is what really makes it work, right?

[00:04:33] Because you have so many drivers who are putting in so much into the sport.

[00:04:36] And then you're able to give them such a great package all the time.

[00:04:39] I really want to bring it back to the start.

[00:04:41] Where did the frame, as in Hindi we say love, where did the love for racing begin in the family?

[00:04:46] How did the team come about initially?

[00:04:48] So everything started on my dad's mind.

[00:04:52] My dad's after school was working in an important Italian team back at the time, on the 70s.

[00:05:03] And he wanted to build up something by himself.

[00:05:06] At that time in Italy, the self-entrepreneurship was something very, very important.

[00:05:11] And he decided, together with a person that ringed on his bell, on the door.

[00:05:17] There is a nice story on Facebook about this gentleman that, together with my dad, founded the team.

[00:05:22] It's quite nice.

[00:05:23] And to be honest, from there, everything started.

[00:05:26] They started in Prema in 83 with the goal of becoming an Italian team, running in Italian Formula 3.

[00:05:34] Of course, the first year was not that possible because they started quite late.

[00:05:38] And they started giving service to a sport prototype car.

[00:05:44] After that, of course, already in 84, they move into Formula 3 with one car team.

[00:05:49] And they achieve already a great result being P3 in the championship.

[00:05:53] So, sorry.

[00:05:55] So that's from where everything started.

[00:05:58] At the time, they were my dad.

[00:05:59] His partner, that was also the sporting director, Giorgio Piccolo.

[00:06:02] My mom, that was following a bit the accountant stuff.

[00:06:07] And my dad, cousin, who was a mechanic.

[00:06:10] So everything started really on a familiar way.

[00:06:13] Of course, through the year, it multiplies and become now on what we are today.

[00:06:19] That between all the operation within Europe and now also America, we are more than 200 people.

[00:06:24] So we need something that we need to be proud of.

[00:06:27] Of course, in our job.

[00:06:28] But my dad started everything.

[00:06:30] Like having a dream, having a vision.

[00:06:33] And that's where we are today.

[00:06:34] That's insane.

[00:06:35] And 200 people is such a crazy number.

[00:06:38] That from where you guys started.

[00:06:40] I know pretty well.

[00:06:41] I know pretty well.

[00:06:43] But it's so insane, right?

[00:06:45] I've heard so many stories of small family teams in Italy.

[00:06:48] Like Grazini and MotoGP is one such example.

[00:06:50] Now, we get to experience that with you folks as well.

[00:06:54] How has it grown?

[00:06:55] How fast has it been?

[00:06:56] Because in the last few years, you guys have gone from just Formula 2, Formula 3.

[00:07:01] And of course, the Italian F4 Championship and the likes.

[00:07:03] To karting.

[00:07:04] Now IndyCar.

[00:07:06] Sports cars as well, separately.

[00:07:08] It's really expanding very fast.

[00:07:10] So, yes.

[00:07:11] It's expanding very fast.

[00:07:12] But we are expanding always in a way that will give us a bit of stability.

[00:07:16] Of stability and I would say, first, when we do a step, we need always to be sure that we're doing the right step.

[00:07:26] And in the right moment.

[00:07:27] We will not rush to do two steps in one time.

[00:07:29] Because otherwise, you start to put in danger all what you've done before.

[00:07:33] So, this is something for us very, very important.

[00:07:35] We need to solidify, put the basement on what we are doing.

[00:07:42] And then we do another floor on the building that we are growing up.

[00:07:45] Having said that, it's true.

[00:07:46] The big expansion has been started, I would say, with the Formula 2 Championship.

[00:07:52] At that time, it was GP2 in 2015.

[00:07:54] Before that, we did something apart Formula 4 and apart Formula 3 for a while in the late 2000s.

[00:08:03] But then, of course, we stepped back because the economical situation, some difficulties happening.

[00:08:08] So, we decided to reorganize ourselves.

[00:08:12] But then, after 2012, we started thinking that is the time now.

[00:08:18] After a good technical structuring that we had done, we started moving up what was the next step to be done.

[00:08:24] So, to become a leader in the market, we need to be on the Formula 1 platform.

[00:08:28] So, that's why in 2015, together with my that time partner, we decided to get into GP2.

[00:08:35] 2016 was the first year on GP2.

[00:08:37] Then, of course, we are there since that time.

[00:08:40] After being won on the year one with Pierre Gasly and Antonio Giovinazzi, we did one and two.

[00:08:44] And we won the team championship.

[00:08:46] On 2019, the Formula 3 merged together with GP3, moving into the Formula 1 platform,

[00:08:52] which is, for us, was a plus on it.

[00:08:55] Of course, we are all part of the old Formula 3.

[00:08:58] And we all know that the old Formula 3 was a great car, a great championship, a great adventure,

[00:09:03] freedom of technical, freedom of development.

[00:09:08] But at the end, there were not anymore the time.

[00:09:10] Because we need also to remember that our goal is to prepare drivers to go to Formula 1.

[00:09:15] And our goal was not, at that time, to spend millions on development that doesn't give anything to drivers,

[00:09:22] apart from growing up engineers.

[00:09:23] For sure, we need to be remembered that we are a school, not only for drivers,

[00:09:28] but as well for mechanics and engineers.

[00:09:29] And this is one of the clear factors why it brought us to go into different categories,

[00:09:35] like, for example, IndyCar, because we create a ladder not only for our own drivers,

[00:09:40] but as well a ladder for all our people working with Prema.

[00:09:43] But apart saying that, the move to merge it to championship was, of course, something very important

[00:09:49] because they were not marked for such a big number of cars, 30 championship on one side,

[00:09:54] 30 champion on the other side.

[00:09:55] And they're where we are at the moment.

[00:09:58] So the growing up of the team has always been done in a way that first we need to

[00:10:06] stabilize what happened before, and then was the moment to do another step,

[00:10:10] and never doing two step by hand.

[00:10:12] Because, of course, one of the key goals for us,

[00:10:14] if we start losing performance in one of the core business,

[00:10:17] one of the core categories we have,

[00:10:20] then everything was starting collapsing.

[00:10:21] Because, unfortunately to say, motorsport has a short memory.

[00:10:26] So if one year you're not performing very well,

[00:10:29] even if you have the best engineers, the best mechanics, or the best drivers,

[00:10:33] then it will be difficult the year after.

[00:10:34] But having said that, once we do something bigger,

[00:10:38] we want always to be sure that what we've done up to that time

[00:10:42] is always being done in the correct way.

[00:10:44] I like how you've explained the philosophy of how we all have built Prema all over the years.

[00:10:51] And, Rene, of course, I've been in touch with your team for several junior drivers

[00:10:55] that we've worked with in the past as well.

[00:10:58] The one thing that always stood out for me,

[00:11:01] which is the most beautiful thing about Prema,

[00:11:03] was this high promotion ratio of drivers who raced for Prema

[00:11:07] ended up being drivers who ended up racing in Formula One as well.

[00:11:11] There was usually this thing that if you want to give yourself the best shot to a title,

[00:11:18] you have to race with Prema.

[00:11:20] So you, of course, are not guaranteed a win.

[00:11:22] As a driver, you still have to perform.

[00:11:24] But Prema was just better prepared than everyone else.

[00:11:28] So the question to you here is,

[00:11:30] how is Prema so successful across different racing categories?

[00:11:36] Because Formula 4, you'll are champions.

[00:11:39] Formula 3, you'll have been champions.

[00:11:40] Formula 2, you'll have been champions.

[00:11:43] Karting, you'll have picked up several accolades as well.

[00:11:46] So not only have you spread your wings and gone deep into motorsport,

[00:11:50] you'll have actually built something so successful as a business.

[00:11:54] So what makes you guys so successful?

[00:11:56] So first of all, I think one of the strong points that everybody's working for one goal.

[00:12:01] And this one goal is, of course, performance and result.

[00:12:04] We are not doing that.

[00:12:06] For sure, we are a business because we are a company running and we need to make income.

[00:12:12] We need to make profit out of it.

[00:12:14] But most of the time, we're always looking at performance.

[00:12:17] What brings us to have the best performance?

[00:12:19] What brings us to get the best out of our drivers?

[00:12:22] Having said that, of course, the other great point, I would say in Prema,

[00:12:26] is that we are not there.

[00:12:28] And then once the day is finished, everybody disconnect and so on.

[00:12:33] We are like, really, we still to keep, we want to keep the familiar environment.

[00:12:38] We want to keep the friendship environment between all the people within the team.

[00:12:42] And especially with drivers to give them these extra bits that can make the difference in the difficult moment.

[00:12:48] Because if in a difficult moment, drivers feel that he's welcome within the team,

[00:12:54] there is a joke, there is a moment to laugh, there is a moment, of course, to work.

[00:12:58] But that can give to the drivers these extra bits of 20, 30 percent of performance that can make the big difference.

[00:13:07] So, on the other hand, we are really much data driven.

[00:13:11] We are really much into performance.

[00:13:13] But, of course, this is part of our job.

[00:13:15] But we want to combine the moment to having fun and the moment to work together.

[00:13:20] And mostly, it's never the drivers that can win alone.

[00:13:24] It's never the team who can win alone.

[00:13:25] Because even if you are the best mechanics, the best engineers, the best drivers,

[00:13:29] it's important that everybody needs to work as one team.

[00:13:32] And this has always been our goal since my dad started back in 83.

[00:13:36] On that, Rene, there's one really interesting thing about your team.

[00:13:40] Whenever a young driver has to start out their journey, if you are going with Prema, you do everything.

[00:13:46] Every F4 championship, you do Freca, you do F3 and then F2.

[00:13:50] It's not like you pick drivers from the middle of the pipeline, which other teams, of course, have to do.

[00:13:55] You have to get people in any way you can.

[00:13:58] But why do you approach it in this particular way?

[00:14:01] Why do you want drivers right from the start and right from not just, let's say, UAE, F4, but also Italian and then Freca and then the whole lot?

[00:14:09] What's the thought behind that?

[00:14:10] So this is, I think, some of the input that they wanted to put within the team in terms of business view.

[00:14:17] The business view that we want to grow up our drivers within our ladder.

[00:14:22] So, of course, there is a sort of selection because it's normal.

[00:14:26] You pass from six cars in Formula 4 to pass to four cars in Freca.

[00:14:32] If you consider three for the male drivers and one for the female, then you step into Formula 3, you have three cars only.

[00:14:40] You step into Formula 2, you have two cars only.

[00:14:42] So there is a selection through the ladder, which is quite normal.

[00:14:45] But on the other hand, we want always to try to pick up early the drivers working with us, getting them used to our way of working, getting them used to our environment and bringing them to us when it's possible, of course, because not all the time is possible.

[00:14:59] But most of the time is possible and that can bring result.

[00:15:03] And that's why we are really into all the ladder categories.

[00:15:08] We are, I think, the only team starting from karting, bringing drivers into up to Formula 1.

[00:15:13] And now with expansion in Indy, we can bring drivers from being 10, 12 years old to up the moment to be professional, either in Formula 1 or even in other categories.

[00:15:23] The interesting part here is that Prema is participating in what we would call a spec series.

[00:15:28] You know, there is a single spec.

[00:15:30] And I've always wondered, like, you know, Prema is always, the legend is always when you all are like the Ferrari of junior racing.

[00:15:36] Okay, the most popular, the most passionate team, of course, Italian as well.

[00:15:41] And I like how it rubs off on everything we do, whether it's communicating with you or with Angelina and the likes.

[00:15:49] There's always so much intensity and passion there.

[00:15:51] But in a spec series, how does a team make a difference?

[00:15:55] You know, there is little room for maneuvering typically, right?

[00:15:58] Because you're given all the stuff from the championship.

[00:16:01] What's the Prema edge and how does Prema sort of make that difference?

[00:16:05] So, let's say, it's a legend that you don't have room of improvement.

[00:16:10] Because, of course, the car is fixed.

[00:16:12] The car, you don't have, you have select items that you can work on it.

[00:16:17] But if you start putting the details, the core of the details in the most way as possible,

[00:16:25] the trying to achieve every single bit, looking of every single bit,

[00:16:29] and on top of it, putting as well the passion, the human aspect into the type of work you're doing.

[00:16:38] Because even if you are a spec, if the drivers trust you 100%,

[00:16:42] if the drivers and engineer relationship is really bonding each other,

[00:16:48] you can get out of the drivers even much more performance.

[00:16:50] Even if sometimes maybe the car is not the best out,

[00:16:53] but you can 100% extract from the drivers a result that never before you can do.

[00:17:02] So, this is, of course, something very, very important for us.

[00:17:06] Of course, is the quality of material you're putting.

[00:17:09] So, you're trying not to go over certain time limit in terms of life.

[00:17:15] But, of course, this is a mix of factors that can make the difference in spec series.

[00:17:19] And a lot of it, I suppose, must be down to operations, right?

[00:17:24] Picking the right people, getting the right engineers, the right mechanics.

[00:17:28] Just how big is that set up for you?

[00:17:30] You mentioned 200 people across the group.

[00:17:32] For instance, in a Formula 2 team, how many people do you have?

[00:17:35] What's the structure like?

[00:17:36] So, first of all, this sport, like everything, is a question of men.

[00:17:42] It's a question of human.

[00:17:43] It's a question of people working together.

[00:17:45] So, fundamental is to be able to work in together.

[00:17:50] And even if you are the best engineer or the best mechanics,

[00:17:53] but you're not able to cooperate within your colleague, within your mates,

[00:17:57] you cannot achieve anything.

[00:17:59] So, this is for us the first point when we choose somebody.

[00:18:03] It's the first point in the term of selection of the person

[00:18:06] because you need to be able to work in a group.

[00:18:08] You're not fighting just for yourself,

[00:18:10] but you're working and representing a brand, which is Prema,

[00:18:13] and you need to work for Prema.

[00:18:14] And with Prema, you need to go and win in races.

[00:18:17] So, having said that, in Formula 2, by regulation, we are 11 people.

[00:18:23] And having on top of it, of course,

[00:18:25] team principle is out of the operational way.

[00:18:29] So, we are quite limited, and that's why we need to spread a bit the role.

[00:18:33] For example, our technical director,

[00:18:35] that up to before were just doing race engineer and technical director,

[00:18:39] now is also team manager because that's what regulation brings us to do.

[00:18:43] But having said that, it's quite limited and it's quite time demanding.

[00:18:48] But, of course, on this case, promoter and federation,

[00:18:51] they're trying to do everything as possible to try to limit the overhour,

[00:18:57] the overwork that you can do, especially in race weekend.

[00:18:59] But in these years, it's getting better and better.

[00:19:03] Of course, we don't have curfew like Formula 1,

[00:19:05] and at a certain time, they go home and they go and relax in the hotel.

[00:19:09] In our case, we have longer hours because, of course,

[00:19:11] we are less people working, but it's getting better and better.

[00:19:15] Sticking to that interesting comparison you made about Formula 1,

[00:19:19] I would love to also use this opportunity with you to simplify Formula 2, right?

[00:19:25] So, what's a Formula 2 team's infrastructure like,

[00:19:28] you know, in terms of workshops, factories?

[00:19:30] And, of course, you know, do all the teams have similar infrastructure?

[00:19:34] Because I know there are regulations on how many people work on the car,

[00:19:37] but what's it like with Prema on the infrastructure side?

[00:19:42] So, in terms of infrastructures, at the moment,

[00:19:46] our base has been remaining the same since 1997.

[00:19:50] So, we bought this building in 1997,

[00:19:52] and then at that time, we were doing, I think, if I remember well,

[00:19:55] I was just 16 at the time,

[00:19:57] but we were doing three Formula 3 cars and two Formula 3000.

[00:20:04] So, five cars in total.

[00:20:06] Now, inside the factory, we have 16 cars, I would say.

[00:20:10] And so, we cannot put any more trailers inside,

[00:20:14] but each car has its own bay.

[00:20:17] Each car has its own equipment dedicated to the car.

[00:20:20] It's split between categories.

[00:20:21] So, we have an area dedicated to Formula 3,

[00:20:23] an area dedicated to Formula 2,

[00:20:25] an area dedicated to regional and Formula 4.

[00:20:28] And, of course, we have when the Academy,

[00:20:30] the Formula 1 Academy cars are back

[00:20:33] because they are traveling all the time in freight

[00:20:34] during the characteristic of the championship,

[00:20:37] then we have a dedicated area for them.

[00:20:39] Of course, due to the time and the expansion

[00:20:41] and the space needed,

[00:20:42] instead of buying new facilities,

[00:20:45] we just aggregate different locations,

[00:20:48] all connecting together

[00:20:50] because we have been able to find

[00:20:51] a few locations on the neighborhood.

[00:20:55] So, there we build up the simulator,

[00:20:57] there we build up extra offices,

[00:20:59] there we build up the space for the endurance.

[00:21:02] And, of course, this is how everything started.

[00:21:04] We started from a small area

[00:21:06] and then grew up now in quite a big structures.

[00:21:10] Of course, in the ideal world,

[00:21:12] you need to do a new building and so on,

[00:21:14] but the investment needed is way too much.

[00:21:16] And, of course, we are okay where we are.

[00:21:18] It's a perfect solution at the moment

[00:21:20] and we are, I think,

[00:21:23] it's most important factional.

[00:21:25] We don't need to be looking just great.

[00:21:29] We need to perform on track.

[00:21:31] So, this is another point.

[00:21:32] I'm not, I don't,

[00:21:33] I don't care to be the best track

[00:21:36] or the best looking from outside.

[00:21:39] What I want that I'm okay on performance,

[00:21:42] sorry, I'm okay on presentation

[00:21:43] because it's quite a vital point for us as well.

[00:21:46] We are always looking great from the outside,

[00:21:49] but on top, we want to concentrate really in performance.

[00:21:52] So, that's what we're always doing.

[00:21:54] Of course, the red and white and tinges of yellow

[00:21:57] are always the most striking race cars on the track.

[00:22:00] But, you know, the interesting thing,

[00:22:03] I like how you explained how you went from three to 16 cars now.

[00:22:08] I think the biggest step you all have made even more

[00:22:11] is the IndyCar operations.

[00:22:13] You all announced Robert Schwartzman recently.

[00:22:16] But could Formula One be that ultimate dream one day?

[00:22:20] Listen, I will not,

[00:22:22] I cannot deny it.

[00:22:24] Formula One is a dream for everybody.

[00:22:26] Formula One is a dream for me as management,

[00:22:29] is a dream for my dad as founder of the team.

[00:22:31] Actually, in an interview he made for the 40th anniversary of Prima,

[00:22:35] he say, the journalist Roberto Kinkero,

[00:22:37] the Italian presenter of Sky Italia for Formula One,

[00:22:40] say, how do you see Prima in 10 years?

[00:22:43] And my dad say, why not in Formula One?

[00:22:47] A part of the joke, of course,

[00:22:48] Formula One is a dream of everybody.

[00:22:50] It's a dream of every mechanics working in Prima.

[00:22:52] It's a dream of every engineer.

[00:22:53] Because, of course, they're doing this job

[00:22:55] because they aspire to go to Formula One.

[00:22:56] But to go to Formula One,

[00:22:58] you need to have the right condition,

[00:23:00] both economical, supporting, and so on.

[00:23:02] So at the moment, it's not the time.

[00:23:04] We see what the future will bring.

[00:23:05] We need to keep the door open, the eyes open.

[00:23:08] But we need to concentrate on what we are doing at the moment.

[00:23:10] We have quite a lot in our plate.

[00:23:12] We have quite a lot to digest and perform.

[00:23:17] So I think that's what we need to look forward to.

[00:23:19] Wait, something tells me you have thought about it, though.

[00:23:22] You have evaluated the idea of going there, haven't you?

[00:23:25] Listen, it needs to be evaluated all the time

[00:23:28] that there is a possibility.

[00:23:29] But having said that,

[00:23:30] at the moment we are concentrated where we are,

[00:23:32] of course, we need to look into the market.

[00:23:34] I don't say that it's a dream for everybody

[00:23:37] to be in Formula One.

[00:23:39] Because it's the pinnacle of motorsport.

[00:23:41] It's the most professional category.

[00:23:43] But, of course, you need to arrive in another dimension.

[00:23:45] You need to arrive in a totally different environment.

[00:23:49] It's not anymore junior Formula.

[00:23:51] It's not anymore what we are doing at the moment.

[00:23:54] It's 800, 900,000 people working.

[00:23:58] And it's totally different.

[00:23:59] So let's get step by step.

[00:24:02] In the case in the future,

[00:24:03] in the case the future will bring up that,

[00:24:05] of course, we need to be ready

[00:24:06] and to evaluate all the opportunities.

[00:24:08] I would love for the Ferrari of junior racing

[00:24:12] to enter Formula One

[00:24:14] and go head-to-head with the Ferrari of Formula One.

[00:24:17] And, you know, there aren't enough Italian teams

[00:24:19] in Formula One

[00:24:20] with all the intensity and passion you all bring.

[00:24:22] And I personally love that Italian anthem.

[00:24:25] So having you all race there

[00:24:26] will just raise the chances of listening to the anthem.

[00:24:28] Honestly, I would like to listen to my atoms

[00:24:30] much more time.

[00:24:33] In Formula One,

[00:24:33] they have the atoms also for the teams.

[00:24:36] And I would like to listen also for the teams

[00:24:38] in the junior Formula.

[00:24:39] Instead, we're just listening to the national atoms

[00:24:41] for the drivers.

[00:24:42] Thanks God.

[00:24:43] We got in the last two years,

[00:24:45] in the last years,

[00:24:46] we got after a time

[00:24:48] that we didn't have more Italian drivers.

[00:24:49] In the last years,

[00:24:51] with Andrea Kimi Antonelli

[00:24:53] and Gabriele Mini,

[00:24:54] we got Italian drivers with us.

[00:24:56] So we will listen in the national atoms.

[00:24:58] And it's also,

[00:24:59] it's always a moment to be proud of.

[00:25:01] It's always a moment that is funny

[00:25:03] when we win a race

[00:25:05] and then even the French

[00:25:07] of Portuguese engineers working with us,

[00:25:10] we all singing together

[00:25:11] the national atoms of Italy.

[00:25:13] It's something nice

[00:25:14] and something making that

[00:25:15] Prima has hit on their heart.

[00:25:18] So it's something that I'm really proud of.

[00:25:21] We're singing as well.

[00:25:22] Don't worry.

[00:25:23] We're part of the same group.

[00:25:25] But I want to talk a little bit more

[00:25:27] about links to Formula One

[00:25:30] briefly in terms of management

[00:25:31] because there's a very similar story

[00:25:33] happening at Alpine.

[00:25:35] Oliver Oaks went from the high-tech GP Formula 2 team

[00:25:37] managing that entire unit

[00:25:39] to managing Formula One.

[00:25:41] And I want to get your perspective on that.

[00:25:43] Firstly, you mentioned about

[00:25:45] how tricky it might be to jump

[00:25:46] with Prima to Formula One.

[00:25:48] But just from a management point of view,

[00:25:50] as a team principal,

[00:25:51] what do you see as the step up?

[00:25:53] Because we often talk about

[00:25:54] driver development,

[00:25:55] but we never talk about

[00:25:56] team principal development.

[00:25:58] And Oliver Oaks is one of those

[00:25:59] interesting stories

[00:26:00] who's gone from F2 to F1 now.

[00:26:02] For sure.

[00:26:03] Oli is doing a great job.

[00:26:05] I think the last podium

[00:26:06] they've done

[00:26:06] on the last weekend

[00:26:09] in Brazil

[00:26:10] has been great

[00:26:11] for all the people

[00:26:12] working in Alpine.

[00:26:13] Having said that,

[00:26:14] of course,

[00:26:15] in my position

[00:26:16] is,

[00:26:17] I would say,

[00:26:18] it's a bit,

[00:26:19] it's difficult to think about it

[00:26:21] because on the other hand,

[00:26:22] my dad has been the founder of Prima.

[00:26:24] So Prima is also my art.

[00:26:25] Prima is also my family.

[00:26:27] It's not only that

[00:26:28] I'm an employee of Prima,

[00:26:29] but I'm part of the founder family

[00:26:32] and then all our life

[00:26:33] has been dedicated to Prima.

[00:26:35] So this is a bit

[00:26:36] different point of view.

[00:26:37] Of course,

[00:26:38] even Oli has been

[00:26:40] the founder into ITEC.

[00:26:42] But the history behind

[00:26:44] all what my dad

[00:26:47] did in these 41 years

[00:26:49] has been,

[00:26:49] I think,

[00:26:50] if we are here,

[00:26:51] is of course credit to him

[00:26:52] of his vision,

[00:26:53] of his continuing pushing,

[00:26:55] even now

[00:26:55] that he's retired,

[00:26:58] but he's continuing

[00:26:59] going into Formula 4 races,

[00:27:01] he's continuing going

[00:27:01] into the Prima,

[00:27:03] trying to give tips

[00:27:04] to the young drivers,

[00:27:05] trying to help them

[00:27:06] to achieve the best result

[00:27:07] as possible.

[00:27:08] So this is something

[00:27:10] that is absolutely,

[00:27:12] I would not be able

[00:27:14] to do anything

[00:27:15] if my dad would not be there

[00:27:16] because of course

[00:27:17] it's really,

[00:27:18] really a machine.

[00:27:19] It's really the engine

[00:27:20] behind everything

[00:27:21] I will start.

[00:27:22] Of course,

[00:27:23] I'm pushing forward

[00:27:24] as well.

[00:27:25] I'm part,

[00:27:26] I'm following much more

[00:27:27] all the bigger projects

[00:27:28] and the bigger categories.

[00:27:31] But he's,

[00:27:31] I think,

[00:27:32] if we are here,

[00:27:33] it's of course

[00:27:33] thanks to him.

[00:27:34] But having said that,

[00:27:36] of course,

[00:27:36] it's a dream

[00:27:37] to be in Formula 1

[00:27:37] and of course

[00:27:38] if the occasion

[00:27:39] will come up

[00:27:40] on the table,

[00:27:41] we need to discuss

[00:27:42] and we need to think

[00:27:43] about it.

[00:27:43] But my heart

[00:27:44] is still Prima

[00:27:44] and then,

[00:27:45] of course,

[00:27:46] this is part

[00:27:46] of my life

[00:27:48] and my family.

[00:27:48] That's actually

[00:27:49] a beautiful tribute

[00:27:50] and that's why

[00:27:51] when I say

[00:27:51] the passion

[00:27:52] is so evident,

[00:27:53] it was evident

[00:27:53] in that answer

[00:27:55] you've of course

[00:27:57] doffed your hats off

[00:27:58] to the work

[00:28:00] that your dad

[00:28:00] has put in

[00:28:01] to bring Prima

[00:28:02] to where it is today.

[00:28:04] And if we can

[00:28:05] just segue a bit

[00:28:06] into Formula 2

[00:28:07] going deeper

[00:28:08] because that is

[00:28:09] one of the Premier Series

[00:28:10] which is getting

[00:28:11] very popular.

[00:28:13] In Formula 1,

[00:28:15] teams get paid

[00:28:16] to go racing.

[00:28:17] And I love that

[00:28:18] at the start

[00:28:18] of our conversation,

[00:28:21] you said

[00:28:21] it's a business

[00:28:22] that Prima has to run

[00:28:24] and every step

[00:28:24] you take

[00:28:25] has to be

[00:28:25] a business

[00:28:26] and a data-driven

[00:28:27] decision.

[00:28:28] So how do teams

[00:28:29] in Formula 2

[00:28:30] make money?

[00:28:31] If that's something

[00:28:32] you are able to explain

[00:28:33] to the audiences then.

[00:28:35] So basically,

[00:28:36] there is,

[00:28:36] for us,

[00:28:38] the contractors part

[00:28:39] is either the drivers,

[00:28:41] either the management

[00:28:42] of the drivers,

[00:28:43] either Formula 1 team

[00:28:45] that are supporting

[00:28:46] their drivers

[00:28:47] into their growing up.

[00:28:50] So most of the time

[00:28:52] this is the business

[00:28:56] of Formula 2

[00:28:57] and all the junior formulas.

[00:28:58] So we are getting paid

[00:28:59] to be racing.

[00:29:01] Of course,

[00:29:01] sometimes also

[00:29:02] the team will make

[00:29:03] some investment

[00:29:04] in the needs

[00:29:05] of certain drivers.

[00:29:06] But in general,

[00:29:07] we need to make sure

[00:29:08] that at the end of the year

[00:29:09] when we close the balance sheet

[00:29:10] and the profit and loss

[00:29:11] is on positive.

[00:29:12] Because if we are losing money,

[00:29:14] of course,

[00:29:15] the company needs

[00:29:15] to put the money

[00:29:16] and you have a risk

[00:29:17] of insolvency

[00:29:18] and all this kind of stuff.

[00:29:19] So the business

[00:29:20] is a normal business.

[00:29:22] Of course,

[00:29:23] in the cars,

[00:29:24] you will see sponsors,

[00:29:25] you will see everything.

[00:29:26] But it's more,

[00:29:26] some sponsors

[00:29:27] are team-related.

[00:29:29] Some other sponsors

[00:29:30] are driver-related.

[00:29:31] So the drivers

[00:29:33] try to get

[00:29:36] the budget

[00:29:37] that the team

[00:29:37] would require

[00:29:38] through sponsors

[00:29:38] or also through

[00:29:39] familial funds.

[00:29:40] And this is a bit

[00:29:42] how is the business

[00:29:43] on Formula 2.

[00:29:44] Of course,

[00:29:45] it will be ideal

[00:29:46] to get money

[00:29:48] coming from the system.

[00:29:50] But already now

[00:29:50] at the moment,

[00:29:51] we have to say

[00:29:51] that the promoter

[00:29:52] is really taking care

[00:29:53] that we are helped

[00:29:57] from the freight point of view,

[00:29:59] from the logistic point of view.

[00:30:01] We have certain help

[00:30:02] that is coming

[00:30:02] from Formula 2

[00:30:05] and Formula 3 promoter,

[00:30:07] speaking especially

[00:30:08] about these two categories

[00:30:09] that can permit us

[00:30:10] to go racing abroad,

[00:30:12] to go racing

[00:30:13] in the Middle East,

[00:30:15] in Australia,

[00:30:16] in Azerbaijan,

[00:30:17] and in the flyaway race.

[00:30:19] So this is always

[00:30:20] meant to be a compromise.

[00:30:22] And that's a great point

[00:30:24] because, you know,

[00:30:25] I know when you look

[00:30:26] at Formula 1's balance sheets,

[00:30:28] there's actually

[00:30:28] a price that

[00:30:30] the promoter

[00:30:31] pays to Formula 1

[00:30:32] for licensing

[00:30:33] Formula 2

[00:30:34] and Formula 3

[00:30:34] as brands.

[00:30:35] So technically,

[00:30:37] Formula 2 pays

[00:30:38] to be a part of

[00:30:38] the Formula 1 circus,

[00:30:40] which is understandable.

[00:30:41] That's how F1's

[00:30:42] business is built.

[00:30:43] But the interesting

[00:30:44] explanation you've given here

[00:30:45] is, you know,

[00:30:47] how Formula 2

[00:30:48] has to balance

[00:30:49] between spends

[00:30:50] and performance.

[00:30:51] Because in a Formula 1 team,

[00:30:53] for example,

[00:30:54] if you crash something,

[00:30:56] you have to replace it

[00:30:57] with the best spec

[00:30:59] that's available

[00:31:00] because the more points,

[00:31:01] the better the ranking

[00:31:02] and the more you get paid.

[00:31:03] But in the case

[00:31:04] of Formula 2,

[00:31:05] if a driver breaks something,

[00:31:07] okay,

[00:31:07] there is a cost

[00:31:08] to replacing that part

[00:31:10] which eventually comes

[00:31:11] either from

[00:31:12] your balance sheet

[00:31:13] or the driver's

[00:31:14] own money

[00:31:15] or whoever is backing

[00:31:16] the drivers then.

[00:31:17] So how do you end up

[00:31:18] finding, you know,

[00:31:19] a balance between

[00:31:20] business performance

[00:31:21] and then on-track performance?

[00:31:23] Because these are

[00:31:23] harsh decisions

[00:31:24] to make.

[00:31:25] That is for sure.

[00:31:26] But in our case,

[00:31:28] we have a certain

[00:31:29] method,

[00:31:30] a business method

[00:31:31] that can allow us

[00:31:32] in the case of crash,

[00:31:33] we need to change

[00:31:34] the parts

[00:31:34] because first of all,

[00:31:35] we are racing

[00:31:36] for performance.

[00:31:37] And if you want

[00:31:38] to do this job,

[00:31:39] we know that

[00:31:40] to race in Formula

[00:31:41] in any category

[00:31:42] you're racing,

[00:31:43] from Formula 4

[00:31:44] till Formula Regional,

[00:31:46] if you want to win,

[00:31:47] you need always

[00:31:47] to have the best material

[00:31:48] as possible.

[00:31:49] so you need to be able

[00:31:50] to,

[00:31:51] in your budget calculation,

[00:31:54] you need to be able

[00:31:54] to spend maybe a bit more

[00:31:56] because you need

[00:31:57] to be sure

[00:31:58] that everything is,

[00:31:59] you have always

[00:31:59] on top of the notch

[00:32:02] quality material.

[00:32:04] And that is happening

[00:32:05] also,

[00:32:06] not also for crash,

[00:32:07] but if,

[00:32:07] if we notice

[00:32:09] that the performance

[00:32:09] of a break

[00:32:11] will stay perfect

[00:32:13] on 100%

[00:32:14] of their performance

[00:32:15] for one race

[00:32:16] and after it degrades,

[00:32:17] you need to make sure

[00:32:18] that in your budget,

[00:32:19] in your calculation,

[00:32:20] pre your decision,

[00:32:21] you know that

[00:32:22] when is the time to change?

[00:32:23] You have the capability

[00:32:24] to change.

[00:32:26] Instead,

[00:32:26] sometimes

[00:32:27] that's most

[00:32:28] in the junior,

[00:32:29] junior category,

[00:32:30] teams trying to

[00:32:32] do,

[00:32:32] to make a result,

[00:32:34] try to do something

[00:32:35] and then they

[00:32:35] cut a bit on the budget,

[00:32:37] make sure

[00:32:37] that it's possible

[00:32:39] to run,

[00:32:39] but then you,

[00:32:40] when you do

[00:32:41] a lower budget category

[00:32:44] or a lower budget

[00:32:46] signature on the contract

[00:32:47] with the drivers,

[00:32:47] what will happen

[00:32:48] that if you don't

[00:32:49] have the money,

[00:32:49] then you cannot

[00:32:50] change part

[00:32:51] and this part

[00:32:52] is fundamental

[00:32:52] if you want

[00:32:53] to keep performance

[00:32:53] high.

[00:32:54] And on the topic

[00:32:55] of performance

[00:32:56] in Formula 2,

[00:32:57] there's,

[00:32:59] there's so many

[00:32:59] things going around,

[00:33:01] right?

[00:33:01] There's so many

[00:33:01] weird scenarios

[00:33:03] where drivers

[00:33:03] who are not really

[00:33:04] very high in F2

[00:33:06] are getting to Formula 1,

[00:33:08] like one of your own

[00:33:09] drivers,

[00:33:09] Oliver Behrman,

[00:33:10] very capable

[00:33:11] in what he's done

[00:33:12] in Formula 1

[00:33:12] and I'm just so

[00:33:14] confused about

[00:33:15] where F2 is today.

[00:33:17] Where is F2 today,

[00:33:19] Rene?

[00:33:19] Do you think

[00:33:20] it works

[00:33:21] as a feeder series

[00:33:22] because there are

[00:33:22] so many drivers

[00:33:23] like Behrman,

[00:33:25] like Lawson,

[00:33:26] like Logan Sargent,

[00:33:27] like Jack Doohan

[00:33:27] who haven't won

[00:33:28] championships in F2

[00:33:29] and haven't gotten

[00:33:31] outstanding results

[00:33:32] but have gotten

[00:33:32] to F1.

[00:33:33] So,

[00:33:33] is it working

[00:33:34] still,

[00:33:34] the championship?

[00:33:35] So,

[00:33:35] first of all,

[00:33:36] I have to say

[00:33:36] winning in Formula 2

[00:33:38] is very difficult.

[00:33:39] It's not only

[00:33:41] the fact that

[00:33:42] the type of racing

[00:33:43] that is difficult

[00:33:44] but of course

[00:33:46] the fact that

[00:33:46] you have

[00:33:47] from the pistop

[00:33:49] not much track time

[00:33:50] you have available

[00:33:51] or you enter

[00:33:52] in free practice

[00:33:53] you have one or two

[00:33:54] run when you can

[00:33:55] do performance

[00:33:56] then of course

[00:33:56] the tires are gone

[00:33:57] then you enter

[00:33:58] straight away

[00:33:59] in quali

[00:33:59] with a different

[00:34:00] spec of tires.

[00:34:01] This is,

[00:34:01] of course,

[00:34:02] this is something

[00:34:03] that's helping you

[00:34:04] to grow up

[00:34:05] as fast as possible.

[00:34:06] If I look

[00:34:08] at both drivers

[00:34:09] that I have this year

[00:34:10] of course,

[00:34:10] they're struggling

[00:34:11] sometimes

[00:34:11] but there is also

[00:34:12] sometimes some other

[00:34:13] reason out of our

[00:34:14] control that happened

[00:34:15] can be a red flag

[00:34:16] can be a situation

[00:34:17] that can compromise

[00:34:18] the quali.

[00:34:18] You compromise

[00:34:19] the quali

[00:34:19] you don't do

[00:34:20] anything else

[00:34:21] in the races

[00:34:21] because

[00:34:23] the races

[00:34:24] are quite tight

[00:34:25] so it's very difficult

[00:34:26] you don't start

[00:34:27] last and win

[00:34:28] unless you got

[00:34:29] something like

[00:34:30] happened with

[00:34:31] Gabri Bortoletto

[00:34:31] in Monza

[00:34:32] that you got

[00:34:32] a safety car

[00:34:33] and so on

[00:34:33] that can

[00:34:34] reshuffle everything

[00:34:35] credit to him

[00:34:36] he did a great race

[00:34:38] not against him

[00:34:39] but of course

[00:34:40] the safety car

[00:34:42] in Monza

[00:34:42] helped him a lot

[00:34:44] but apart saying

[00:34:45] that

[00:34:45] Oli

[00:34:46] I think

[00:34:46] is ready

[00:34:47] to Formula 1

[00:34:47] Oli

[00:34:48] already last year

[00:34:50] showed

[00:34:50] to the people

[00:34:52] what he's capable

[00:34:53] on doing

[00:34:53] of course

[00:34:54] this year

[00:34:54] there's been

[00:34:54] some up and down

[00:34:56] but

[00:34:56] we must say

[00:34:58] it's something

[00:34:59] that's credit

[00:35:00] to both the drivers

[00:35:01] both Oli

[00:35:01] and Kimi

[00:35:02] we are still

[00:35:02] fighting for the podium

[00:35:03] in the championship

[00:35:04] which is

[00:35:05] everybody

[00:35:06] forget it

[00:35:07] but we are

[00:35:07] performing the championship

[00:35:08] now

[00:35:08] and then we can

[00:35:09] fight for top three

[00:35:10] on the championship

[00:35:10] and honestly

[00:35:12] we are still

[00:35:13] with Andrea Kimi

[00:35:14] we can fight

[00:35:15] in the last two rounds

[00:35:16] to be on the top three

[00:35:17] of the championship

[00:35:17] on the drivers

[00:35:18] so the performance

[00:35:20] of both drivers

[00:35:21] I think

[00:35:21] has been

[00:35:23] good

[00:35:23] we have to say

[00:35:24] Oli Biermann

[00:35:25] in Jeddah

[00:35:26] did both position

[00:35:27] he won

[00:35:29] a great race

[00:35:32] in Monza

[00:35:33] he did

[00:35:33] the other race

[00:35:35] win

[00:35:35] that was quite

[00:35:36] difficult

[00:35:36] that it was

[00:35:37] in Spielberg

[00:35:38] so honestly

[00:35:39] we

[00:35:40] is

[00:35:41] really ready

[00:35:42] to Formula 1

[00:35:43] and I think

[00:35:43] that Formula 1

[00:35:44] results show him

[00:35:45] but sometimes

[00:35:45] the result

[00:35:46] in Formula 2

[00:35:47] is not just

[00:35:47] drivers

[00:35:48] it's not just

[00:35:48] team

[00:35:48] it's a mix

[00:35:49] of factors

[00:35:51] that it can happen

[00:35:51] because we are

[00:35:52] in a championship

[00:35:53] that we have

[00:35:54] 22 cars

[00:35:55] all the same

[00:35:55] and sometimes

[00:35:56] some problems

[00:35:57] happen

[00:35:57] but I would say

[00:35:59] everything

[00:35:59] at the end

[00:36:01] is

[00:36:01] if I look

[00:36:02] the last drivers

[00:36:03] coming to Formula 1

[00:36:04] I think

[00:36:05] all the drivers

[00:36:06] that are

[00:36:06] passed through

[00:36:06] Formula 2

[00:36:07] they are

[00:36:08] doing a great

[00:36:08] job

[00:36:09] and because

[00:36:09] Formula 2

[00:36:10] is an important

[00:36:12] path

[00:36:12] into the

[00:36:13] driver's ladder

[00:36:13] so

[00:36:15] the teams

[00:36:16] the Formula 1

[00:36:16] teams

[00:36:17] are looking

[00:36:17] more at

[00:36:18] the performance

[00:36:20] rather than

[00:36:21] the results

[00:36:21] is what we

[00:36:22] are sort of

[00:36:23] the way

[00:36:24] the drivers

[00:36:24] are driving

[00:36:25] but for sure

[00:36:25] the Formula 1

[00:36:26] team are looking

[00:36:27] on performance

[00:36:27] not always

[00:36:28] you look

[00:36:29] because the

[00:36:30] race result

[00:36:31] is sometimes

[00:36:31] affected by

[00:36:32] accidents

[00:36:33] by mistakes

[00:36:35] which are

[00:36:36] normal

[00:36:36] I would say

[00:36:37] in the learning

[00:36:38] process

[00:36:39] it's better

[00:36:39] to have an

[00:36:40] accident

[00:36:41] in junior

[00:36:42] Formula

[00:36:42] than when

[00:36:43] it's time

[00:36:43] of Formula 1

[00:36:44] so of course

[00:36:45] for us

[00:36:46] we want to

[00:36:46] win

[00:36:46] as a team

[00:36:47] we want to

[00:36:48] do the best

[00:36:48] job as

[00:36:48] possible

[00:36:49] I think

[00:36:49] we need

[00:36:49] to address

[00:36:51] certain

[00:36:51] point of

[00:36:51] performance

[00:36:52] after this

[00:36:53] year in

[00:36:53] Formula 2

[00:36:54] with us

[00:36:54] but still

[00:36:56] we still

[00:36:57] have two

[00:36:57] rounds to

[00:36:58] go

[00:36:58] and we

[00:36:59] can still

[00:37:00] do a great

[00:37:00] job

[00:37:01] having the

[00:37:01] drivers

[00:37:01] fighting for

[00:37:02] win

[00:37:03] and everything

[00:37:04] on the other

[00:37:05] hand all the

[00:37:05] time when

[00:37:06] we say

[00:37:07] when I speak

[00:37:08] with drivers

[00:37:08] that in

[00:37:09] any category

[00:37:10] we do

[00:37:10] I say to

[00:37:11] them listen

[00:37:11] we need

[00:37:12] all the

[00:37:13] time

[00:37:13] trying to

[00:37:13] do our

[00:37:14] best

[00:37:14] both in

[00:37:14] quality

[00:37:15] in the

[00:37:15] races

[00:37:15] we cannot

[00:37:16] think

[00:37:16] since they

[00:37:17] won on

[00:37:17] championship

[00:37:18] you start

[00:37:18] thinking

[00:37:18] of the

[00:37:19] championship

[00:37:19] on the

[00:37:20] round

[00:37:20] one

[00:37:21] we will

[00:37:21] start

[00:37:22] losing

[00:37:22] our

[00:37:22] focus

[00:37:23] the

[00:37:23] goal

[00:37:23] is to

[00:37:24] do

[00:37:24] all the

[00:37:24] time

[00:37:25] the

[00:37:25] best

[00:37:25] result

[00:37:25] is the

[00:37:27] best

[00:37:27] result

[00:37:27] being

[00:37:28] P3

[00:37:28] P4

[00:37:28] P5

[00:37:29] we need

[00:37:29] to

[00:37:29] take

[00:37:29] home

[00:37:30] P3

[00:37:30] P4

[00:37:30] P5

[00:37:31] at the

[00:37:32] end

[00:37:32] of the

[00:37:32] championship

[00:37:33] we will

[00:37:33] judge

[00:37:34] if we

[00:37:34] have done

[00:37:34] a good

[00:37:35] job

[00:37:35] or a

[00:37:36] bad

[00:37:36] job

[00:37:36] because

[00:37:37] at the

[00:37:37] end

[00:37:37] of the

[00:37:37] championship

[00:37:38] we can

[00:37:38] evaluate

[00:37:39] where we

[00:37:39] are

[00:37:40] how we

[00:37:40] arrived

[00:37:40] and this

[00:37:41] is for

[00:37:41] me

[00:37:53] sport

[00:37:53] because

[00:37:53] you have

[00:37:54] external

[00:37:55] factor

[00:37:55] you got

[00:37:56] a red

[00:37:56] flag

[00:37:56] that you

[00:37:57] are on

[00:37:57] the

[00:37:57] pole

[00:37:57] lap

[00:37:58] and the

[00:37:59] time

[00:37:59] has been

[00:38:00] stopped

[00:38:01] you don't

[00:38:01] start

[00:38:02] anymore

[00:38:02] in pole

[00:38:03] you start

[00:38:03] in P10

[00:38:03] but on

[00:38:04] your

[00:38:05] potential

[00:38:05] on your

[00:38:06] belt

[00:38:06] you have

[00:38:06] P1

[00:38:07] lap

[00:38:07] so this

[00:38:08] is part

[00:38:09] of

[00:38:09] motorsport

[00:38:09] and this

[00:38:10] part

[00:38:10] of the

[00:38:10] championship

[00:38:11] and then

[00:38:11] you need

[00:38:11] to live

[00:38:11] with that

[00:38:13] I just

[00:38:14] make an

[00:38:14] example

[00:38:15] I just

[00:38:15] make an

[00:38:16] example

[00:38:16] but you

[00:38:17] mentioned

[00:38:18] something so

[00:38:18] interesting

[00:38:19] there

[00:38:19] performance

[00:38:20] and I'm

[00:38:21] so curious

[00:38:22] to know

[00:38:22] how you

[00:38:23] measure

[00:38:23] performance

[00:38:24] because so

[00:38:24] many of

[00:38:24] the drivers

[00:38:25] racing for

[00:38:26] Prema

[00:38:26] are normally

[00:38:27] with the

[00:38:27] driver

[00:38:27] academy

[00:38:28] like Oscar

[00:38:29] was with

[00:38:29] Alpine

[00:38:30] Kimi is

[00:38:30] with Mercedes

[00:38:31] and so on

[00:38:32] and so forth

[00:38:32] what sort

[00:38:33] of data

[00:38:33] do you share

[00:38:34] with them

[00:38:34] and how

[00:38:34] involved

[00:38:35] are those

[00:38:36] academies

[00:38:36] on a

[00:38:37] day-to-day

[00:38:37] basis

[00:38:37] how much

[00:38:38] do they

[00:38:39] speak to

[00:38:39] you

[00:38:39] what do

[00:38:40] they

[00:38:40] get inputs

[00:38:41] on

[00:38:41] I'd love

[00:38:42] to know

[00:38:42] more about

[00:38:42] the whole

[00:38:43] process

[00:38:43] so

[00:38:43] depends

[00:38:44] from

[00:38:44] academy

[00:38:45] to

[00:38:45] academy

[00:38:45] not

[00:38:45] all the

[00:38:46] academy

[00:38:46] are the

[00:38:46] same

[00:38:47] some

[00:38:47] academy

[00:38:48] are leaving

[00:38:48] the team

[00:38:48] dealing

[00:38:52] academy

[00:38:52] are more

[00:38:54] into

[00:38:55] the growing

[00:38:55] up of

[00:38:56] the drivers

[00:38:56] even on

[00:38:56] the technical

[00:38:57] side

[00:38:57] depends a

[00:38:58] bit on

[00:38:58] their

[00:38:59] mentality

[00:38:59] and their

[00:39:00] way of

[00:39:00] working

[00:39:01] on the

[00:39:01] other hand

[00:39:02] we have

[00:39:02] a great

[00:39:02] relationship

[00:39:03] with all

[00:39:03] the

[00:39:03] academy

[00:39:04] we work

[00:39:04] with

[00:39:05] when they

[00:39:06] ask

[00:39:06] information

[00:39:07] we share

[00:39:07] information

[00:39:08] but of

[00:39:08] course

[00:39:08] what they

[00:39:09] ask us

[00:39:10] is to

[00:39:10] prepare

[00:39:11] the drivers

[00:39:11] so they

[00:39:11] let us

[00:39:12] do our

[00:39:12] job

[00:39:13] and they

[00:39:14] ask our

[00:39:15] suggestion

[00:39:15] in the way

[00:39:16] we want

[00:39:16] to grow

[00:39:17] up

[00:39:17] at

[00:39:17] drivers

[00:39:17] and of

[00:39:18] course

[00:39:18] we have

[00:39:18] a plan

[00:39:18] at

[00:39:18] beginning

[00:39:19] of the

[00:39:19] year

[00:39:19] and from

[00:39:20] there

[00:39:20] we

[00:39:21] are

[00:39:22] doing

[00:39:22] our

[00:39:23] job

[00:39:23] that

[00:39:24] the

[00:39:24] driver

[00:39:24] is

[00:39:24] into

[00:39:25] the

[00:39:25] academy

[00:39:25] or the

[00:39:26] driver

[00:39:26] is not

[00:39:26] into

[00:39:26] the

[00:39:27] academy

[00:39:27] but

[00:39:27] the

[00:39:27] private

[00:39:28] drivers

[00:39:28] we are

[00:39:28] doing

[00:39:28] the

[00:39:28] same

[00:39:29] job

[00:39:29] because

[00:39:46] we

[00:39:50] vision

[00:39:50] that

[00:39:50] each

[00:39:51] formula

[00:39:51] team

[00:39:51] is

[00:39:52] doing

[00:39:52] i love

[00:39:53] the

[00:39:53] depth

[00:39:54] that's

[00:39:54] coming

[00:39:54] into

[00:39:55] this

[00:39:55] and i'm

[00:39:56] going to

[00:39:56] talking

[00:39:57] of

[00:39:57] driver

[00:39:57] performance

[00:39:58] and you've

[00:39:58] explained

[00:39:59] there are

[00:39:59] race

[00:40:00] interruptions

[00:40:00] session

[00:40:00] interruptions

[00:40:01] etc

[00:40:02] the

[00:40:03] key

[00:40:03] question

[00:40:04] i wanted

[00:40:04] to

[00:40:04] sort

[00:40:05] of

[00:40:05] get

[00:40:05] in

[00:40:05] on

[00:40:06] was

[00:40:06] how

[00:40:06] equal

[00:40:07] are

[00:40:08] these

[00:40:08] machines

[00:40:08] in

[00:40:09] formula

[00:40:09] 2

[00:40:09] because

[00:40:09] fernando

[00:40:10] alonso

[00:40:10] when he

[00:40:11] was

[00:40:11] asked

[00:40:11] about

[00:40:11] motorsport

[00:40:12] in

[00:40:12] the

[00:40:12] olympics

[00:40:13] he

[00:40:13] said

[00:40:14] you

[00:40:14] get

[00:40:14] all

[00:40:15] the

[00:40:15] machines

[00:40:15] made

[00:40:15] from

[00:40:16] the

[00:40:16] same

[00:40:16] factory

[00:40:16] they

[00:40:16] will

[00:40:17] never

[00:40:17] be

[00:40:17] exactly

[00:40:18] the

[00:40:18] same

[00:40:18] because

[00:40:19] there

[00:40:19] is

[00:40:19] a

[00:40:19] machine

[00:40:20] involvement

[00:40:20] how

[00:40:21] equal

[00:40:22] is

[00:40:22] the

[00:40:22] machinery

[00:40:23] in

[00:40:23] formula

[00:40:23] 2

[00:40:24] and

[00:40:24] you

[00:40:25] know

[00:40:25] how

[00:40:25] do

[00:40:25] the

[00:40:25] organizers

[00:40:26] in

[00:40:26] this

[00:40:26] case

[00:40:26] the

[00:40:27] promoters

[00:40:28] ensure

[00:40:28] equal

[00:40:29] equality

[00:40:30] of

[00:40:30] machinery

[00:40:30] so

[00:40:31] in

[00:40:32] terms

[00:40:32] of

[00:40:32] parts

[00:40:32] to be

[00:40:33] honest

[00:40:33] i

[00:40:33] don't

[00:40:34] see

[00:40:35] discrepancy

[00:40:35] in

[00:40:36] performance

[00:40:36] car

[00:40:37] chassis

[00:40:37] through

[00:40:38] the

[00:40:38] years

[00:40:38] we

[00:40:39] changed

[00:40:39] quite

[00:40:39] a lot

[00:40:39] of

[00:40:39] cars

[00:40:40] we

[00:40:40] changed

[00:40:40] quite

[00:40:40] a lot

[00:40:41] of

[00:40:41] chasse

[00:40:46] car

[00:40:46] to

[00:40:46] previous

[00:40:47] drivers

[00:40:47] because

[00:40:47] he

[00:40:47] wanted

[00:40:48] to

[00:40:48] have

[00:40:48] his

[00:40:48] own

[00:40:48] car

[00:40:49] as

[00:40:49] memorallia

[00:40:49] then

[00:40:50] of

[00:40:50] course

[00:40:50] we

[00:40:50] need

[00:40:50] to

[00:40:50] buy

[00:40:50] a

[00:40:51] new

[00:40:51] car

[00:40:51] we

[00:40:51] never

[00:41:16] can

[00:41:16] not

[00:41:16] notice

[00:41:17] sometimes

[00:41:18] of

[00:41:18] course

[00:41:18] it's

[00:41:19] just

[00:41:19] a

[00:41:19] fact

[00:41:19] that

[00:41:20] if

[00:41:20] you

[00:41:20] have

[00:41:20] bad

[00:41:21] luck

[00:41:21] and

[00:41:21] you

[00:41:21] get

[00:41:21] a

[00:41:21] bad

[00:41:22] engine

[00:41:22] that

[00:41:22] is

[00:41:23] on

[00:41:23] the

[00:41:23] lower

[00:41:23] side

[00:41:23] of

[00:41:24] the

[00:41:24] windows

[00:41:24] you

[00:41:25] can

[00:41:25] struggle

[00:41:25] in

[00:41:25] a

[00:41:25] bit

[00:41:26] but

[00:41:27] discussing

[00:41:27] together

[00:41:28] with

[00:41:28] promoter

[00:41:28] and

[00:41:28] CERN

[00:41:29] you

[00:41:29] always

[00:41:30] find

[00:41:30] a way

[00:41:30] to

[00:41:31] sort

[00:41:32] it

[00:41:32] out

[00:41:33] it

[00:41:34] might

[00:41:34] be

[00:41:34] a bit

[00:41:34] tricky

[00:41:34] for

[00:41:35] a

[00:41:35] young

[00:41:35] driver

[00:41:36] right

[00:41:36] if

[00:41:37] you

[00:41:37] spend

[00:41:37] so

[00:41:38] much

[00:41:38] to

[00:41:38] get

[00:41:38] to

[00:41:38] Formula

[00:41:39] 2

[00:41:46] can

[00:41:46] be

[00:41:46] done

[00:41:46] apart

[00:41:46] from

[00:41:46] the

[00:41:52] promoter

[00:41:52] is

[00:41:53] doing

[00:41:53] a

[00:41:53] great

[00:41:53] job

[00:41:53] on

[00:41:53] that

[00:41:54] and

[00:41:54] we

[00:41:55] have

[00:41:55] always

[00:41:55] quite

[00:41:56] an

[00:41:56] equal

[00:41:56] treatment

[00:41:57] between

[00:41:57] all

[00:41:58] the

[00:41:59] parts

[00:41:59] that

[00:41:59] we

[00:41:59] are

[00:41:59] receiving

[00:42:00] there

[00:42:00] is

[00:42:00] a

[00:42:00] close

[00:42:01] check

[00:42:01] by

[00:42:01] FIA

[00:42:02] on

[00:42:02] it

[00:42:04] because

[00:42:05] we

[00:42:05] guarantee

[00:42:05] to

[00:42:05] drivers

[00:42:06] to

[00:42:06] get

[00:42:07] something

[00:42:08] that

[00:42:08] is

[00:42:10] equal

[00:42:10] and

[00:42:16] to

[00:42:17] you

[00:42:17] nurture

[00:42:17] drivers

[00:42:18] because

[00:42:19] drivers

[00:42:19] to

[00:42:20] me

[00:42:20] are

[00:42:20] like

[00:42:20] plants

[00:42:20] right

[00:42:21] you

[00:42:21] give

[00:42:21] a

[00:42:22] plant

[00:42:22] air

[00:42:22] water

[00:42:23] and

[00:42:23] sunlight

[00:42:23] and

[00:42:23] they

[00:42:24] grow

[00:42:24] what

[00:42:24] do

[00:42:24] you

[00:42:24] have

[00:42:27] as

[00:42:28] your

[00:42:28] playbook

[00:42:29] of

[00:42:29] growing

[00:42:29] up

[00:42:30] and

[00:42:30] creating

[00:42:30] a good

[00:42:30] racing

[00:42:31] driver

[00:42:31] first

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[00:50:04] by

[00:50:04] us

[00:50:04] more

[00:50:04] than

[00:50:05] for

[00:50:05] the

[00:50:05] drivers

[00:50:05] from

[00:50:06] round

[00:50:06] two

[00:50:06] it

[00:50:07] was

[00:50:07] always

[00:50:07] top

[00:50:08] three

[00:50:08] row

[00:50:09] on

[00:50:09] quali

[00:50:09] which

[00:50:10] is

[00:50:10] something

[00:50:10] absolutely

[00:50:11] incredible

[00:50:12] he

[00:50:13] muster

[00:50:13] win

[00:50:14] in

[00:50:14] Silverstone

[00:50:14] under

[00:50:14] the

[00:50:15] wet

[00:50:15] he

[00:50:16] has

[00:50:17] done

[00:50:17] great

[00:50:17] results

[00:50:19] overall

[00:50:20] so

[00:50:20] I

[00:50:20] think

[00:50:21] he

[00:50:21] won

[00:50:21] in

[00:50:22] Ungaro

[00:50:22] ring

[00:50:23] I

[00:50:23] think

[00:50:23] that

[00:50:24] honestly

[00:50:24] is

[00:50:25] how

[00:50:26] can

[00:50:26] I

[00:50:26] say

[00:50:26] he

[00:50:26] is

[00:50:26] doing

[00:50:27] a

[00:50:27] great

[00:50:27] job

[00:50:27] he

[00:50:28] is

[00:50:28] a

[00:50:29] great

[00:50:29] talent

[00:50:29] he

[00:50:30] has

[00:50:30] already

[00:50:32] decided

[00:50:32] to

[00:50:32] move

[00:50:33] into

[00:50:33] Formula

[00:50:33] 1

[00:50:33] next

[00:50:34] year

[00:50:34] he

[00:50:34] has

[00:50:34] to

[00:50:34] learn

[00:50:35] a

[00:50:35] lot

[00:50:35] he

[00:50:35] is

[00:50:35] young

[00:50:36] but

[00:50:36] he

[00:50:36] has

[00:50:37] all

[00:50:37] the

[00:50:37] potential

[00:50:37] to

[00:50:37] do

[00:50:38] a

[00:50:38] good

[00:50:38] job

[00:50:39] with

[00:50:39] us

[00:50:39] he

[00:50:40] has

[00:50:42] been

[00:50:45] part

[00:50:45] of

[00:50:46] us

[00:50:46] in

[00:50:46] Formula

[00:50:48] 2

[00:50:49] a

[00:50:49] lot

[00:50:49] of

[00:50:49] pressure

[00:50:49] from

[00:50:50] outside

[00:50:50] but

[00:50:51] he

[00:50:51] managed

[00:50:51] pretty

[00:50:52] well

[00:50:52] when

[00:50:52] we

[00:50:52] are

[00:50:53] together

[00:50:53] we

[00:50:53] are

[00:50:53] trying

[00:50:54] to

[00:50:55] do

[00:50:55] our

[00:50:56] job

[00:50:56] not

[00:50:56] considering

[00:50:57] what

[00:50:57] is

[00:50:57] being

[00:50:58] told

[00:50:58] outside

[00:50:58] even

[00:50:59] through

[00:50:59] the

[00:50:59] season

[00:50:59] it's

[00:51:00] been

[00:51:00] quite

[00:51:00] difficult

[00:51:00] with

[00:51:00] all

[00:51:01] the

[00:51:01] rumours

[00:51:01] stepping

[00:51:01] up

[00:51:02] up

[00:51:02] up

[00:51:02] no

[00:51:03] back

[00:51:03] hands

[00:51:04] on

[00:51:04] but

[00:51:05] on

[00:51:05] the

[00:51:05] other

[00:51:05] hand

[00:51:05] he

[00:51:06] managed

[00:51:06] pretty

[00:51:06] well

[00:51:07] we

[00:51:07] managed

[00:51:07] pretty

[00:51:07] well

[00:51:08] in

[00:51:08] a

[00:51:08] difficult

[00:51:09] moment

[00:51:09] in

[00:51:10] terms

[00:51:10] of

[00:51:10] pressure

[00:51:10] but

[00:51:11] we

[00:51:12] need

[00:51:12] to

[00:51:12] again

[00:51:12] look

[00:51:12] in

[00:51:13] race

[00:51:13] by

[00:51:13] race

[00:51:13] doing

[00:51:13] our

[00:51:14] best

[00:51:14] job

[00:51:14] as

[00:51:14] possible

[00:51:15] and

[00:51:15] that's

[00:51:16] where

[00:51:16] we

[00:51:16] are

[00:51:16] now

[00:51:16] what

[00:51:17] was

[00:51:17] Mercedes'

[00:51:18] brief

[00:51:18] when

[00:51:19] they

[00:51:19] got

[00:51:20] Kimi

[00:51:20] Antonelli

[00:51:20] what

[00:51:20] did

[00:51:21] tell

[00:51:21] you

[00:51:21] what

[00:51:21] do

[00:51:21] we

[00:51:22] want

[00:51:22] from

[00:51:22] this

[00:51:22] guy

[00:51:22] what

[00:51:23] do

[00:51:23] you

[00:51:23] do

[00:51:24] with

[00:51:24] him

[00:51:24] now

[00:51:24] they

[00:51:27] always

[00:51:27] trust

[00:51:28] him

[00:51:28] a lot

[00:51:28] they

[00:51:28] always

[00:51:29] support

[00:51:29] him

[00:51:30] a lot

[00:51:30] and

[00:51:30] then

[00:51:31] when

[00:51:31] he

[00:51:31] came

[00:51:31] out

[00:51:31] the

[00:51:32] moment

[00:51:32] to

[00:51:32] step

[00:51:33] into

[00:51:33] Formula

[00:51:33] 4

[00:51:34] I

[00:51:34] got

[00:51:35] a

[00:51:35] call

[00:51:36] a

[00:51:36] text

[00:51:36] by

[00:51:36] the

[00:51:37] young

[00:51:38] drivers

[00:51:39] manager

[00:51:39] and

[00:51:41] we

[00:51:42] started

[00:51:42] discussing

[00:51:43] about

[00:51:43] Kimi

[00:51:44] but

[00:51:44] it

[00:51:44] was

[00:51:44] quite

[00:51:45] an

[00:51:45] automatic

[00:51:45] fit

[00:51:46] an

[00:51:46] Italian

[00:51:47] team

[00:51:48] working

[00:51:49] with

[00:51:49] Mercedes

[00:51:49] I think

[00:51:50] was

[00:51:50] something

[00:51:50] automatically

[00:51:51] and

[00:51:51] from there

[00:51:52] we

[00:51:52] start

[00:51:52] on

[00:51:52] to be

[00:51:54] honest

[00:51:54] we

[00:51:54] didn't

[00:51:55] have

[00:51:55] much

[00:51:55] Italian

[00:51:55] drivers

[00:51:55] in

[00:51:56] the

[00:51:56] last

[00:51:56] years

[00:51:56] and

[00:51:56] I'm

[00:51:57] pretty

[00:51:57] happy

[00:51:57] that

[00:51:58] on

[00:51:58] the

[00:51:58] last

[00:51:59] two

[00:51:59] years

[00:51:59] we

[00:51:59] got

[00:52:00] with

[00:52:01] Andrea

[00:52:01] and

[00:52:02] with

[00:52:02] Gabriele

[00:52:03] we

[00:52:03] got

[00:52:03] two

[00:52:04] Italian

[00:52:04] talent

[00:52:05] because

[00:52:05] we

[00:52:05] need

[00:52:05] to be

[00:52:06] a bit

[00:52:06] close

[00:52:07] to

[00:52:08] our

[00:52:08] nation

[00:52:08] and

[00:52:08] these

[00:52:09] two

[00:52:09] young

[00:52:09] kids

[00:52:10] is

[00:52:10] something

[00:52:10] very

[00:52:10] important

[00:52:11] yes

[00:52:11] that

[00:52:11] Italian

[00:52:12] passion

[00:52:12] that

[00:52:12] we

[00:52:13] have

[00:52:13] been

[00:52:13] talking

[00:52:13] of

[00:52:13] for

[00:52:14] the

[00:52:14] last

[00:52:15] almost

[00:52:16] an

[00:52:16] hour

[00:52:16] now

[00:52:17] but

[00:52:17] what's

[00:52:17] the

[00:52:18] one

[00:52:18] piece

[00:52:18] of

[00:52:19] advice

[00:52:19] you

[00:52:20] would

[00:52:20] give

[00:52:20] to

[00:52:20] Toto

[00:52:21] Wolf

[00:52:21] for

[00:52:21] managing

[00:52:22] Kimi

[00:52:22] Antonelli

[00:52:23] in

[00:52:23] 2025

[00:52:25] I

[00:52:25] don't

[00:52:25] have

[00:52:26] to

[00:52:26] say

[00:52:26] anything

[00:52:26] Toto

[00:52:27] is

[00:52:27] very

[00:52:27] well

[00:52:28] experienced

[00:52:28] to

[00:52:28] manage

[00:52:29] young

[00:52:29] drivers

[00:52:29] he

[00:52:30] has

[00:52:30] done

[00:52:30] with

[00:52:31] a lot

[00:52:31] of

[00:52:31] drivers

[00:52:31] in

[00:52:47] a

[00:52:47] short

[00:52:48] time

[00:52:48] of

[00:52:49] course

[00:52:49] he

[00:52:49] needs

[00:52:49] to

[00:52:49] have

[00:52:50] time

[00:52:50] to

[00:52:50] grow

[00:52:51] up

[00:52:51] he

[00:52:51] is

[00:52:51] still

[00:52:52] very

[00:52:52] young

[00:52:52] he

[00:52:53] just

[00:52:53] turned

[00:52:53] 18

[00:52:53] in

[00:52:54] August

[00:52:55] but

[00:52:56] he

[00:52:56] has

[00:52:56] a

[00:52:56] great

[00:52:56] future

[00:52:57] ahead

[00:52:57] of

[00:52:57] him

[00:52:57] and

[00:52:57] I'm

[00:52:58] pretty

[00:52:58] sure

[00:52:58] he

[00:52:58] will

[00:53:00] bring

[00:53:00] the

[00:53:02] Italian

[00:53:02] flag

[00:53:03] on top

[00:53:03] of

[00:53:03] the

[00:53:03] podium

[00:53:04] even

[00:53:04] in

[00:53:04] Formula

[00:53:04] One

[00:53:04] quite

[00:53:05] soon

[00:53:06] yes

[00:53:06] you

[00:53:06] and

[00:53:07] all

[00:53:07] of

[00:53:07] us

[00:53:07] will

[00:53:07] get

[00:53:08] to

[00:53:08] enjoy

[00:53:08] that

[00:53:08] Italian

[00:53:09] anthem

[00:53:09] pretty

[00:53:10] soon

[00:53:10] I

[00:53:11] hope

[00:53:11] but

[00:53:12] you

[00:53:12] know

[00:53:12] when

[00:53:12] you

[00:53:12] first

[00:53:13] got

[00:53:13] that

[00:53:13] call

[00:53:14] how

[00:53:23] did

[00:53:24] you

[00:53:24] handle

[00:53:24] that

[00:53:25] of

[00:53:26] course

[00:53:26] it

[00:53:26] was a

[00:53:27] talk

[00:53:27] that

[00:53:27] we

[00:53:28] had

[00:53:28] and

[00:53:28] on

[00:53:29] the

[00:53:29] other

[00:53:29] hand

[00:53:29] I

[00:53:30] understand

[00:53:31] their

[00:53:32] point

[00:53:33] view

[00:53:33] of

[00:53:34] course

[00:53:34] you

[00:53:34] can

[00:53:34] agree

[00:53:35] you

[00:53:35] cannot

[00:53:35] and

[00:53:36] you

[00:53:36] can

[00:53:36] disagree

[00:53:36] this

[00:53:37] is

[00:53:37] something

[00:53:38] personal

[00:53:38] that

[00:53:38] is

[00:53:39] related

[00:53:39] between

[00:53:39] the

[00:53:40] two

[00:53:40] things

[00:53:41] but

[00:53:41] at

[00:53:41] the

[00:53:41] end

[00:53:42] we

[00:53:42] made

[00:53:42] this

[00:53:42] choice

[00:53:42] we

[00:53:43] agree

[00:53:43] on

[00:53:43] this

[00:53:43] choice

[00:53:44] because

[00:53:44] when

[00:53:44] we

[00:53:44] signed

[00:53:44] the

[00:53:45] agreement

[00:53:45] we

[00:53:45] were

[00:53:45] in

[00:53:46] agreement

[00:53:46] I

[00:54:12] it

[00:54:12] was

[00:54:12] very

[00:54:13] interesting

[00:54:13] he

[00:54:15] knows

[00:54:16] the

[00:54:16] lap

[00:54:17] time

[00:54:17] so

[00:54:17] you

[00:54:17] guys

[00:54:18] have

[00:54:18] really

[00:54:18] fed

[00:54:19] him

[00:54:19] a lot

[00:54:19] of

[00:54:19] information

[00:54:20] which

[00:54:20] he

[00:54:20] stored

[00:54:21] there

[00:54:21] this

[00:54:21] is

[00:54:22] honestly

[00:54:22] something

[00:54:22] that

[00:54:23] he

[00:54:24] remembers

[00:54:24] everything

[00:54:25] he knows

[00:54:25] everything

[00:54:26] you can

[00:54:27] ask him

[00:54:27] everything

[00:54:27] about

[00:54:28] racing

[00:54:28] the

[00:54:29] thing

[00:54:30] the

[00:54:30] I

[00:54:32] was

[00:54:32] racing

[00:54:33] in

[00:54:33] Le Mans

[00:54:33] it

[00:54:34] was

[00:54:37] 2022

[00:54:39] we

[00:54:40] were

[00:54:40] there

[00:54:41] in

[00:54:41] the

[00:54:41] race

[00:54:41] fighting

[00:54:42] for

[00:54:42] the

[00:54:42] win

[00:54:43] of

[00:54:43] class

[00:54:43] in

[00:54:43] LMP2

[00:54:44] with

[00:54:44] Robert

[00:54:44] Kubica

[00:54:45] and

[00:54:45] Luis

[00:54:46] Dele

[00:54:46] Tras

[00:54:46] and

[00:54:47] then

[00:54:47] in

[00:54:47] a

[00:54:47] certain

[00:54:47] point

[00:54:48] I

[00:54:48] received

[00:54:48] a

[00:54:49] text

[00:54:49] over

[00:54:49] the

[00:54:49] weekend

[00:54:49] and

[00:54:50] he

[00:54:50] said

[00:54:52] what

[00:54:53] you

[00:54:54] are

[00:54:54] doing

[00:54:54] here

[00:54:54] so

[00:54:54] he

[00:54:54] traveled

[00:54:55] alone

[00:54:55] coming

[00:54:55] to

[00:54:55] Le Mans

[00:54:56] to

[00:54:56] see

[00:54:56] the

[00:54:56] race

[00:54:56] and

[00:54:57] he

[00:54:58] is

[00:54:58] really

[00:54:58] a

[00:54:58] kid

[00:54:59] that

[00:54:59] is

[00:55:00] eating

[00:55:00] as

[00:55:01] we

[00:55:01] say

[00:55:01] in

[00:55:01] Italian

[00:55:02] bread

[00:55:02] and

[00:55:02] motorsport

[00:55:03] he

[00:55:04] is

[00:55:04] really

[00:55:05] loving

[00:55:05] what

[00:55:06] he's

[00:55:06] doing

[00:55:07] he's

[00:55:08] really

[00:55:08] loving

[00:55:08] what

[00:55:08] everything

[00:55:09] related

[00:55:10] to

[00:55:10] motorsport

[00:55:10] every

[00:55:11] type

[00:55:12] of

[00:55:12] car

[00:55:12] driving

[00:55:12] always

[00:55:13] on

[00:55:13] track

[00:55:13] and

[00:55:14] this

[00:55:14] is

[00:55:14] great

[00:55:15] passion

[00:55:15] for

[00:55:16] him

[00:55:16] so

[00:55:16] honestly

[00:55:17] he's

[00:55:18] a

[00:55:18] fantastic

[00:55:19] guy

[00:55:19] to

[00:55:19] work

[00:55:19] with

[00:55:20] like

[00:55:20] a

[00:55:20] lot

[00:55:21] of

[00:55:21] other

[00:55:21] drivers

[00:55:21] that

[00:55:21] we

[00:55:22] have

[00:55:22] been

[00:55:22] working

[00:55:23] together

[00:55:23] but

[00:55:23] him

[00:55:23] is

[00:55:24] something

[00:55:25] particular

[00:55:25] oh yeah

[00:55:26] there I am

[00:55:26] four years

[00:55:27] of COVID

[00:55:27] and then

[00:55:28] I've

[00:55:28] forgotten

[00:55:29] how to

[00:55:29] unmute

[00:55:30] my

[00:55:30] mic

[00:55:30] but

[00:55:31] like

[00:55:31] Oliver

[00:55:31] Behrman

[00:55:32] who's

[00:55:32] also

[00:55:33] gone

[00:55:33] through

[00:55:33] your

[00:55:33] academy

[00:55:34] and

[00:55:34] who's

[00:55:34] also

[00:55:35] now

[00:55:35] come

[00:55:35] up

[00:55:35] to

[00:55:35] Formula

[00:55:36] one

[00:55:36] he's

[00:55:36] already

[00:55:36] got

[00:55:37] three

[00:55:38] GP

[00:55:38] appearances

[00:55:38] and

[00:55:39] we

[00:55:39] know

[00:55:39] a

[00:55:39] bit

[00:55:40] about

[00:55:40] him

[00:55:40] but

[00:55:41] you've

[00:55:41] seen

[00:55:41] him

[00:55:41] far

[00:55:42] more

[00:55:42] than

[00:55:42] all

[00:55:42] of

[00:55:43] us

[00:55:43] have

[00:55:43] what

[00:55:43] should

[00:55:44] we

[00:55:44] be

[00:55:44] excited

[00:55:44] about

[00:55:45] the

[00:55:45] most

[00:55:45] what's

[00:55:46] the

[00:55:46] best

[00:55:46] part

[00:55:46] about

[00:55:46] first

[00:55:47] of all

[00:55:47] all he

[00:55:48] didn't

[00:55:48] do

[00:55:48] with

[00:55:48] us

[00:55:48] all

[00:55:49] the

[00:55:49] all

[00:55:49] the

[00:55:50] growing

[00:55:50] he

[00:55:50] jumped

[00:55:50] to

[00:55:50] us

[00:55:51] into

[00:55:51] Formula

[00:55:51] 3

[00:55:51] directly

[00:55:52] after

[00:55:52] winning

[00:55:53] Formula

[00:55:53] 4

[00:55:53] against

[00:55:54] us

[00:55:54] so

[00:55:54] we

[00:55:54] fight

[00:55:55] we

[00:55:55] were

[00:55:55] we

[00:55:56] he

[00:55:57] beat

[00:55:57] us

[00:55:57] in

[00:55:59] that

[00:55:59] year

[00:56:00] where

[00:56:00] we

[00:56:00] got

[00:56:01] Sebastian

[00:56:01] Montoya

[00:56:02] with

[00:56:02] us

[00:56:02] fighting

[00:56:03] for

[00:56:03] the

[00:56:03] championship

[00:56:04] in

[00:56:04] Formula

[00:56:04] 4

[00:56:04] he

[00:56:05] stepped

[00:56:05] up

[00:56:05] in

[00:56:05] Formula

[00:56:05] 3

[00:56:06] and

[00:56:06] directly

[00:56:07] at

[00:56:07] the

[00:56:07] end

[00:56:07] of

[00:56:07] the

[00:56:07] championship

[00:56:08] he

[00:56:08] was

[00:56:08] fighting

[00:56:08] in

[00:56:09] the

[00:56:09] last

[00:56:09] race

[00:56:10] if

[00:56:10] the

[00:56:10] race

[00:56:11] would

[00:56:11] not

[00:56:11] be

[00:56:11] in

[00:56:11] red

[00:56:11] flag

[00:56:13] I

[00:56:14] would

[00:56:14] say

[00:56:14] he

[00:56:14] would

[00:56:14] have

[00:56:15] been

[00:56:15] champion

[00:56:16] so

[00:56:16] at

[00:56:17] the

[00:56:17] beginning

[00:56:17] we

[00:56:17] were

[00:56:17] agreed

[00:56:18] with

[00:56:18] him

[00:56:18] to

[00:56:18] do

[00:56:18] another

[00:56:19] season

[00:56:19] in

[00:56:19] Formula

[00:56:19] 3

[00:56:20] but

[00:56:21] after

[00:56:21] the

[00:56:21] race

[00:56:22] being

[00:56:22] red

[00:56:22] flag

[00:56:22] on

[00:56:23] the

[00:56:23] other

[00:56:23] hand

[00:56:23] we

[00:56:24] could

[00:56:24] not

[00:56:24] do

[00:56:24] anything

[00:56:24] else

[00:56:25] than

[00:56:25] say

[00:56:25] to

[00:56:25] him

[00:56:26] because

[00:56:27] you

[00:56:28] would

[00:56:28] have

[00:56:28] been

[00:56:28] champion

[00:56:29] if

[00:56:29] two

[00:56:30] three

[00:56:30] more

[00:56:30] laps

[00:56:31] would

[00:56:31] have

[00:56:31] happened

[00:56:31] so

[00:56:33] and

[00:56:33] it

[00:56:34] was

[00:56:34] even

[00:56:48] on

[00:56:49] that

[00:56:49] year

[00:56:49] on

[00:56:49] his

[00:56:50] debut

[00:56:50] in

[00:56:51] Formula

[00:56:51] 2

[00:56:51] everybody

[00:56:52] remember

[00:56:52] and

[00:56:53] honestly

[00:56:53] he

[00:56:54] growing up

[00:56:55] with

[00:56:55] us

[00:56:56] on

[00:56:56] the

[00:56:56] second

[00:56:56] year

[00:56:57] of

[00:56:57] course

[00:56:57] there's

[00:56:57] been

[00:56:57] some

[00:56:58] good

[00:56:58] moments

[00:56:59] and bad

[00:56:59] moments

[00:56:59] he has

[00:57:00] done

[00:57:00] some

[00:57:00] good

[00:57:00] wins

[00:57:00] in

[00:57:01] the

[00:57:01] race

[00:57:02] and

[00:57:03] now

[00:57:03] he's

[00:57:05] going

[00:57:05] into

[00:57:06] Formula

[00:57:07] 1

[00:57:07] together

[00:57:07] with

[00:57:08] us

[00:57:08] and

[00:57:08] looking

[00:57:09] forward

[00:57:09] to

[00:57:09] see

[00:57:09] him

[00:57:09] fighting

[00:57:10] again

[00:57:10] for

[00:57:11] more

[00:57:11] points

[00:57:11] in

[00:57:11] the

[00:57:11] Formula

[00:57:12] 1

[00:57:12] championship

[00:57:12] yeah

[00:57:13] and

[00:57:13] you

[00:57:13] know

[00:57:13] Behrman

[00:57:14] has

[00:57:14] already

[00:57:20] been

[00:57:21] a

[00:57:22] qualifying

[00:57:23] specialist

[00:57:23] but

[00:57:23] if

[00:57:24] we

[00:57:24] also

[00:57:24] given

[00:57:25] the

[00:57:25] list

[00:57:25] of

[00:57:25] drivers

[00:57:26] that

[00:57:26] were

[00:57:26] there

[00:57:26] and

[00:57:27] we

[00:57:27] should

[00:57:27] wrap

[00:57:28] up

[00:57:28] in

[00:57:28] the

[00:57:28] next

[00:57:28] five

[00:57:29] minutes

[00:57:29] Rene

[00:57:30] if

[00:57:48] Formula

[00:57:51] season

[00:57:53] has

[00:57:53] been

[00:57:54] absolutely

[00:57:54] outstanding

[00:57:55] everybody

[00:57:56] can say

[00:57:56] it was

[00:57:57] not

[00:57:57] fast

[00:57:57] in

[00:57:57] Formula

[00:57:58] three

[00:57:58] guys

[00:57:58] it

[00:57:59] was

[00:57:59] a

[00:57:59] COVID

[00:58:00] year

[00:58:00] difficulties

[00:58:01] we

[00:58:02] just

[00:58:03] done

[00:58:03] testing

[00:58:04] in

[00:58:04] Bahrain

[00:58:04] then

[00:58:04] everything

[00:58:05] shut

[00:58:05] down

[00:58:06] from

[00:58:06] I don't

[00:58:06] know

[00:58:07] how many

[00:58:07] months

[00:58:07] we

[00:58:08] restarted

[00:58:08] in

[00:58:09] end

[00:58:09] of

[00:58:10] June

[00:58:10] beginning

[00:58:10] of

[00:58:10] July

[00:58:11] with

[00:58:11] all

[00:58:11] back

[00:58:11] to

[00:58:12] back

[00:58:12] races

[00:58:12] where

[00:58:13] you

[00:58:13] don't

[00:58:13] even

[00:58:13] have

[00:58:13] time

[00:58:14] to

[00:58:14] process

[00:58:14] where

[00:58:15] you

[00:58:15] don't

[00:58:15] even

[00:58:16] have

[00:58:16] time

[00:58:16] to

[00:58:16] understand

[00:58:17] what's

[00:58:17] going

[00:58:17] on

[00:58:18] yourself

[00:58:19] and

[00:58:19] circuit

[00:58:20] that

[00:58:21] he

[00:58:21] didn't

[00:58:21] know

[00:58:21] we

[00:58:21] were

[00:58:22] racing

[00:58:22] in

[00:58:22] Mugello

[00:58:23] that

[00:58:23] he

[00:58:23] didn't

[00:58:23] know

[00:58:23] Mugello

[00:58:24] he

[00:58:24] got

[00:58:25] in

[00:58:25] the

[00:58:25] first

[00:58:25] part

[00:58:25] of

[00:58:26] the

[00:58:47] did

[00:58:48] in

[00:58:48] silver

[00:58:48] in

[00:58:48] the

[00:58:49] position

[00:58:49] again

[00:58:50] in

[00:58:50] Monza

[00:58:50] in

[00:58:51] Sochi

[00:58:52] and

[00:58:52] Abu

[00:58:53] Dhabi

[00:58:53] was

[00:58:53] something

[00:58:53] outstanding

[00:58:54] and

[00:58:54] what

[00:58:55] he's

[00:58:55] doing

[00:58:55] now

[00:58:56] is

[00:58:56] not

[00:58:57] surprising

[00:58:57] me

[00:58:57] at

[00:58:58] all

[00:58:58] what

[00:58:59] I

[00:58:59] like

[00:58:59] of

[00:58:59] him

[00:58:59] is

[00:59:01] calm

[00:59:01] his

[00:59:02] relaxed

[00:59:02] way

[00:59:02] of

[00:59:03] approaching

[00:59:03] when

[00:59:03] you

[00:59:03] see

[00:59:03] outside

[00:59:04] you

[00:59:04] don't

[00:59:04] see

[00:59:04] that

[00:59:05] he's

[00:59:05] a

[00:59:05] racing

[00:59:06] drivers

[00:59:06] but

[00:59:06] when

[00:59:18] was

[00:59:22] Mick

[00:59:22] Schumacher

[00:59:23] I was

[00:59:23] hoping

[00:59:23] he

[00:59:24] gets

[00:59:24] an

[00:59:24] Audi

[00:59:24] seat

[00:59:25] or

[00:59:25] a

[00:59:25] second

[00:59:25] shot

[00:59:26] to

[00:59:26] Formula

[00:59:26] One

[00:59:27] I

[00:59:27] personally

[00:59:27] think

[00:59:28] his

[00:59:28] career

[00:59:29] wasn't

[00:59:29] the

[00:59:29] best

[00:59:29] managed

[00:59:30] the

[00:59:30] two

[00:59:30] years

[00:59:30] he

[00:59:31] was

[00:59:31] with

[00:59:31] us

[00:59:32] for

[00:59:32] various

[00:59:32] reasons

[00:59:32] why

[00:59:33] do

[00:59:33] you

[00:59:34] think

[00:59:34] Mick

[00:59:34] did

[00:59:47] difference

[00:59:48] on

[00:59:48] the

[00:59:48] team

[00:59:48] can

[00:59:48] make

[00:59:49] a

[00:59:49] difference

[00:59:49] in

[00:59:49] Formula

[00:59:49] One

[00:59:50] you

[00:59:50] have

[00:59:50] a

[00:59:50] car

[00:59:50] that

[00:59:51] can

[00:59:51] be

[00:59:51] much

[00:59:52] more

[00:59:52] faster

[00:59:52] than

[00:59:52] anybody

[00:59:53] depends

[00:59:53] on

[00:59:53] the

[00:59:53] budget

[00:59:53] you

[00:59:54] are

[00:59:54] available

[00:59:54] depends

[00:59:54] on

[00:59:54] various

[00:59:55] aspects

[00:59:55] of

[00:59:56] course

[00:59:56] on

[00:59:56] the

[00:59:56] year

[00:59:56] Mick

[00:59:57] did

[00:59:59] a

[01:00:11] great

[01:00:11] job

[01:00:12] he

[01:00:12] won

[01:00:14] Formula

[01:00:15] 3

[01:00:15] he

[01:00:15] was

[01:00:15] P2

[01:00:16] in

[01:00:16] Formula

[01:00:18] after

[01:00:19] missing

[01:00:19] a few

[01:00:19] races

[01:00:20] we

[01:00:20] decided

[01:00:20] to

[01:00:21] concentrate

[01:00:21] more

[01:00:21] in

[01:00:22] the

[01:00:22] German

[01:00:22] championship

[01:00:22] we

[01:00:23] won

[01:00:24] Formula

[01:00:24] 2

[01:00:25] again

[01:00:25] so

[01:00:25] I

[01:00:26] cannot

[01:00:26] say

[01:00:26] anything

[01:00:26] about

[01:00:27] him

[01:00:29] he's

[01:00:30] a

[01:00:30] great

[01:00:30] talent

[01:00:30] he's

[01:00:31] a

[01:00:31] great

[01:00:31] person

[01:00:31] he's

[01:00:32] bringing

[01:00:32] with

[01:00:32] him

[01:00:32] a

[01:00:32] great

[01:00:33] name

[01:00:33] which

[01:00:33] sometimes

[01:00:34] can

[01:00:34] be

[01:00:34] also

[01:00:34] weight

[01:00:35] but

[01:00:36] he's

[01:00:37] always

[01:00:37] managed

[01:00:37] he's

[01:00:38] doing

[01:00:38] a

[01:00:39] long

[01:00:40] he's

[01:00:40] a

[01:00:43] slow

[01:00:43] learner

[01:00:44] he needs

[01:00:44] more

[01:00:45] time

[01:00:49] you've

[01:00:49] worked

[01:00:50] so

[01:00:50] closely

[01:00:50] with

[01:00:50] him

[01:00:50] is

[01:00:51] that

[01:00:51] the

[01:00:51] right

[01:00:52] perception

[01:00:52] that

[01:00:52] the

[01:00:52] world

[01:00:53] has

[01:00:53] of

[01:00:53] him

[01:00:53] to

[01:00:54] be

[01:00:54] honest

[01:00:54] I

[01:00:54] don't

[01:00:54] want

[01:00:55] to

[01:00:55] say

[01:00:55] he's

[01:00:56] a