Oscar Piastri wins with Papaya Rules, Naomi Campbell returns to F1 - 2024 Azerbaijan GP Review
Inside Line F1 PodcastSeptember 16, 202400:54:04

Oscar Piastri wins with Papaya Rules, Naomi Campbell returns to F1 - 2024 Azerbaijan GP Review

We're 24 hours too late with our 2024 Azerbaijan GP review episode, however, we've covered more than just the racing on-track. Did you know that Naomi Campbell, the celebrity who waived the chequered flag in Baku, was once engaged to Flavio Briatore? Yes, lots of such stories in our near hour-long episode. On a weekend when "papaya rules" could have been used against him, Oscar Piastri drove one of his best Formula 1 races to force McLaren to use the papaya rules in favour of him! Lando Norris, the championship contender, fought back from a 15th place at the start to 4th place at the finish; out-scoring his championship rival Max Verstappen by 3 points. How did Charles Leclerc not win in Baku? Btw, only 1 out of the last 9 races have been won by the pole sitter! How did Piastri make up so much time on Leclerc on his in/out laps in the pit stop? Is Red Bull Racing back in form? Sergio Perez was battling for victory...on merit. And how is it that Max Verstappen's struggles continued? Was the Carlos Sainz-Sergio Perez incident right to be labelled as a "racing incident" or should either one of the two drivers have picked up a penalty? And if so, who? Tune in! (Season 2024, Episode 47) Follow our hosts on Twitter: Soumil Arora, @f1statsguru and Kunal Shah Image courtesy: Aston Martin F1 Team Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're 24 hours too late with our 2024 Azerbaijan GP review episode, however, we've covered more than just the racing on-track. Did you know that Naomi Campbell, the celebrity who waived the chequered flag in Baku, was once engaged to Flavio Briatore? Yes, lots of such stories in our near hour-long episode.

On a weekend when "papaya rules" could have been used against him, Oscar Piastri drove one of his best Formula 1 races to force McLaren to use the papaya rules in favour of him! Lando Norris, the championship contender, fought back from a 15th place at the start to 4th place at the finish; out-scoring his championship rival Max Verstappen by 3 points.

How did Charles Leclerc not win in Baku? Btw, only 1 out of the last 9 races have been won by the pole sitter! How did Piastri make up so much time on Leclerc on his in/out laps in the pit stop? Is Red Bull Racing back in form? Sergio Perez was battling for victory...on merit. And how is it that Max Verstappen's struggles continued?

Was the Carlos Sainz-Sergio Perez incident right to be labelled as a "racing incident" or should either one of the two drivers have picked up a penalty? And if so, who?

Tune in!

(Season 2024, Episode 47)

Follow our hosts on Twitter: Soumil Arora, @f1statsguru and Kunal Shah

Image courtesy: Aston Martin F1 Team

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

[00:00:23] has not got the opportunity to watch her race, but it also presents us a good opportunity

[00:00:28] to understand what on earth went down. Guys, I've just seen the results. I see Oscar Piastri

[00:00:34] winning. I see Max Wistappen nowhere in the podium. I see Russell getting one. Landown,

[00:00:39] or is in fourth. Sergio Perez, Dianne Fing and the same can be set for Carlos signs. And

[00:00:45] another lookler pool, not being converted to win. Oh, it could not be true. Who's going to tell me first?

[00:00:51] What what just happened here? Whatever missed this weekend you actually missed a lot. I

[00:00:56] what you've done is read out the results which is fine, but there was so much more that happened in

[00:01:04] Baku something always happens in Baku and always does whatever that Murray Walker court is that

[00:01:10] Ryan always bring forward to Baku, but some of the weirdest stories that you would have never

[00:01:18] imagined. So, steak, cake, sourber or well sourber formula one team got the fastest pit stop of the weekend.

[00:01:30] Can you believe it? This is that team that had the slowest pit stop ever in the whole season for several

[00:01:37] races to come. They had the fastest pit stop on Walthri Bhothas's car? No, no, no, no, wait. How quick was it?

[00:01:45] 2.4, what? 2.4 seconds and a red bull if I'm not wrong. Max Wistappen had a 3.1 second pit stop.

[00:01:53] Yeah, I think it's been four or five races have entered. Red bull have been pretty terrible these last

[00:01:58] couple of races. Yes, I think red bulls had four or five races where they were three second pit stops.

[00:02:05] Also, Savo was in 2.4. He was a 2.3-2 second pit stop. Okay. So that's one story. That's one story.

[00:02:14] Second of course, we're going to talk about it Williams double point finish. They've jumped

[00:02:19] Alpine in the constructors championship, etc. But in Q3, Alexander Albin left the pits with an A box fan

[00:02:28] on his car. Okay, so he had to go park up on the left and the team was very clear.

[00:02:35] You can give the fan to the Marshall but do not let him touch the car. The radio instructions

[00:02:42] were so precise, clear. I love that you can give him the fan handed over to him but do not let

[00:02:50] him touch the car because that would time to mount to him being then given outside assistance. So that

[00:02:55] that was one. Then but he did not hand it over. He literally threw it off of the car.

[00:03:02] If he found a car correctly. Yeah, and he's like if we earned a point this weekend,

[00:03:07] we will have some more money to spend even on the cost gap or whatever it goes. And then

[00:03:14] Fernando Alonso had a plastic bag stuck on his halo in Friday practice.

[00:03:22] Yeah, so he was busy. He was a beautiful video. He's busy doing this and then the engineer

[00:03:27] saying actually it's a little on the bottom. It's on the left. It's here. It's there. And he finally

[00:03:31] manages to get it out. So lots of crazy stories that came up from Baku, not just the race itself.

[00:03:42] I mean, he was one for F1 stats crew. When was the last time? Four drivers were battling for

[00:03:50] endless laps together. Almost at no clue who's going to actually claim the win and they were

[00:03:58] half a second away from each other. That means four drivers within two seconds. Literally when

[00:04:02] was the last time we had that incredible. I really can't remember. The interesting thing is,

[00:04:09] I think the last couple of races that we've seen. We've actually had a pass for the lead in most

[00:04:16] of them or in the last five, six races which was such a raretie in the years before because we

[00:04:22] would often see the lead changing only when the lead drive would go into the pits and then in that

[00:04:28] situation someone else would take the lead. But we very rarely see seeing someone overtaking

[00:04:33] the race lead and we've seen that consistently in the last couple of races which probably goes on

[00:04:39] to show that Formula One is in a very healthy state right now. And like you know it says four

[00:04:43] front drivers. Surge of pair is was literally in the in the in contention for a race when after

[00:04:49] very long time I was actually rooting for him until that crash happened but yeah things look

[00:04:55] very good for Formula One and we still have seven more rounds to go. So excited. This brings

[00:04:59] me this brings me to my first question. Yeah, yes how can go for ask your question.

[00:05:04] So yeah how did surgery pair is one second? This doesn't make any sense to me.

[00:05:10] He might have really identified Max firstly. Yes he did.

[00:05:14] First he does. For the first time in 33 races driver number 33 got out qualified for all your

[00:05:21] love for numerology, summer. Okay tell me more. See this is the back of effect because

[00:05:27] and I'm a very firm believer of this if a driver does well at a track for some reason

[00:05:34] he just manages to find another cure at the level and I've seen that trend throughout this season as

[00:05:39] Surge of pair is was pretty good at spa. He scored points there and he was good in qualifying

[00:05:43] at least. He was good in monza and he has actually had the longest active streak of any driver

[00:05:50] in monza. He scored there for the last 10 races. Similarly Surge of pair is as a good

[00:05:55] record around Baku yet five podiums leading to this race. So only driver to win this race

[00:06:01] more than once. And the only track that he's one at twice in his career. His most successful

[00:06:06] track. So everyone was playing out playing a fantasy game over the weekend and an O30% of people

[00:06:12] picked Surge of pair is in barely 7% picked Max was step in. So the numbers really came into effect.

[00:06:19] He out qualified Max was step in and was in fight for the race when I opened the last three or four

[00:06:25] laps. This brings me to my question about Red Bull racing. Is Red Bull racing back? Because

[00:06:32] Checkupair has was actually actually in the battle for the win. He knows that by the time.

[00:06:37] He was not in the battle to finish in the points. He was not in the battle for the podium. He was

[00:06:40] in the battle for the win. Is Red Bull racing back? Checkupair has finished 20 seconds ahead of

[00:06:46] Max. Which happens. Okay. And I just get this feeling that Max was probably running a lot of

[00:06:55] experiments to find his sweet spot. He knows this title is anywhere his. So he's like to all that

[00:07:01] experiment all you can do. All the patchwork all you can and just get me the car the way I like

[00:07:07] it next year. That's probably where he is. This is where all the British fans go. You just said Max

[00:07:13] knows that his the championship is his. And I like that we're actually touching touching on this topic.

[00:07:19] I mean, shall we talk more about this right now on later? Before we do that we should tell people why

[00:07:25] some of it couldn't watch the race because it's not that he was busy doing something else. He was

[00:07:30] busy doing something else which was a lot more fun actually when it comes to Formula 1 now pretty much

[00:07:36] every race is so much more fun that I wish you you buy your commentating at the Indian racing league this

[00:07:43] weekend in Chennai. You also had your monitor on the side because you would have probably just

[00:07:49] started commentating on the Formula 1 race in the Indian racing league feed itself.

[00:07:54] I mean, I over there on Sunday, we missed you there. So I'm seriously we we were all just

[00:08:01] telling everyone who had their phone on the Formula 1 to shut up and go away because we didn't want

[00:08:06] any spoilers whatsoever. I heard one person come in the middle and say, hey, dude Oscar Piaestries

[00:08:11] leading the race. How does that? I mean, again, I'm still in that same space as I was in Sunday evening.

[00:08:19] What just happened guys? How did it look like bottle is? Is it a bottle? It was it one taken away

[00:08:25] on merit. What's the what's the right way to look at it? I saw on the overtake that was quite good.

[00:08:30] That was incredible. That was incredible. That was incredible. You know, to be a clear on the

[00:08:36] brakes in Baku he's one of the toughest things to do. La Clare so Corin Baku on a single lap because

[00:08:43] he's so good in the brakes and you can make up so much more time in the braking zones especially

[00:08:47] the heavy braking zones. Oscar Piaestries Beach are a clear right there. He actually, you know,

[00:08:53] claimed after the race it was a 50-50 more and he made it happen and La Clare was like, I should have

[00:08:57] blocked you. I thought I'll stay in your way. I used the DRS and go for it and I think it was one of

[00:09:04] the most epic battles for the race lead which did not involve max which happened Lewis Hamilton

[00:09:10] or Landonaurus, you know the three most frequent most highest race winners that

[00:09:16] that you can find in in recent times I would say. And the interesting thing is the battle

[00:09:22] that lasted after Piaestries overtook Shaal Leclare. It lasted for 28 laps and for each of those 28

[00:09:29] laps the gap between the both of them was less than a second. 28 consecutive laps

[00:09:35] of Piaestries and Leclare battling it out almost. I mean there were occasions where Leclare was

[00:09:41] very, very close I think they were 40-5 times where he could have jumped on the inside and

[00:09:46] taken their risk but he did not and I think that was typical Shaal knowing that you know this

[00:09:52] so much of risk involved and he's going to go straight into the barriers and there is a

[00:09:56] Constructors Championship on the line as well. So I would say that he was quite smart but

[00:10:00] you still expected maybe Shaal would just try at least once to see if it happens but he kept it

[00:10:06] I mean he kept it clean out say. Was he annoyed at the end of the race canal?

[00:10:11] Was he honoured? He was he was he was absolutely he he he he knows he lost it on merit he

[00:10:18] knows he lost it to a driver who drove fantastic who overtook him as expected you know in a

[00:10:28] move it you know turn one into Baku is usually always a beautiful and I think if anything Leclare

[00:10:35] would just be like the cars were almost evenly matched it was about who had track position as

[00:10:40] as it is in in the in most cases right but he was also down to that one key you know

[00:10:50] discussion which is going to come up going into Singapore part McLaren's pace even without DRS with

[00:10:56] that wing flexing too much and the gap between the DRS uh being off and the rear wing so that's

[00:11:04] going to be an intense scrutiny in in the few days to come from now because Oscar Piasis

[00:11:12] end of DRS own pace was so high that Shaal without really risking too much could interrupt

[00:11:19] just gotten you know next to his wheel tracks and try to do something on the brakes with him so

[00:11:25] was trying to do was trying to keep running Oscar into making mistake which frankly there was no

[00:11:32] chance he was going to make one because Oscar is so really cool with it but he was hoping that somebody

[00:11:37] styles would go off and it wouldn't be here that's what Leclare was hoping for. Is that a new loop

[00:11:42] whole that they're exploiting because I particularly remember I think the Euro something ago McLaren

[00:11:46] not being the fastest team in the speed traps they were better in the higher speed corners but this is

[00:11:52] new and I particularly was surprised to see them up and qualifying because I remember I predicted

[00:11:58] them to be a bit nowhere and for are you to be better in them winning the race which clearly

[00:12:02] was not too far off but again wrong. How did that happen? What's this whole story about?

[00:12:08] Yeah you're right it's uh eventually down to the fact that McLaren's upgrades have gotten them into

[00:12:13] a more aero efficient configuration and they are literally matching red bull with the might of that DRS itself

[00:12:22] so McLaren is literally you know they're the most all-round car there and after the Friday

[00:12:27] they had after the Saturday they had pretty much no-one thought McLaren would win so convincingly

[00:12:32] I wouldn't say they won't comprehend civilly but you know it's it's great to see McLaren win

[00:12:39] and guess what? On the weekend they decided that they would use papaya rules they actually use papaya

[00:12:44] rules but not against Oscar Piazry they used it in favor of Oscar Piazry landowner is doing

[00:12:53] his best to hold up Czechoperas which I think was vital in that victory as well which means

[00:12:58] Oscar Piazry and landowner's both have two wins this season and landowner's played a big role

[00:13:05] in port those wins for Oscar Piazry. One second there's two, two, is it?

[00:13:12] In fact that's a good point in the last nine races just one race has been won from pole position

[00:13:19] and that was Sunfoot with landowner's. That is unbelievable. There's still so much to talk

[00:13:27] about though in this particular episode and what you're listening to folks is the inside line F1 podcast.

[00:13:33] My name is Somalarora as can all mention I was commentating on the in-racingly this time out

[00:13:38] is why I missed but then at least I get to listen to two of my favorite voices on this port as well

[00:13:44] and I can be biased and surely you can be the same as well because when you've got someone like Khanal

[00:13:49] who's the former marketing and a force in there and also an F1 expert on Viaply who's always on

[00:13:55] their studio shows as well and also F1 stats guru Sundaram who's been one of the most

[00:14:01] and what was been the best statistician around in terms of social media content part of the WDF

[00:14:05] and Taland roster also the official statistician for the Indian racing league as worked for

[00:14:10] autosport, more sport, so many other publications as well. It gives me such a good way to

[00:14:16] get a good idea of what went down in the race weekend. I'm still learning. I'm still catching up

[00:14:21] and the next point that I want to catch up is what have I missed again? Okay we we understood

[00:14:29] how Oscar was good his attacking and then subsequent defending was incredible. I think then

[00:14:35] other big incident happened in it. Science and bet is how did that happen to the end? Who's going

[00:14:40] to take this one guys? I want to hear Kunal give his opinion first because I have a very strong

[00:14:46] perspective on this because I've spent a couple of us going through a lot of footage but so yeah

[00:14:51] I'm actually going to let Kunal go for this first. In my view it's a racing incident, marginal marginal

[00:15:01] marginal things and both strivers could have done to over the crash. I agree with the

[00:15:05] two words on this completely. If you have to have to have to have to have to pin the blame on one

[00:15:14] person, I would say marginally towards Carlos signs because you know when you race in

[00:15:22] Baku. The beauty is you can actually try and emulate this in a go-carting circuit. It doesn't

[00:15:28] matter if you don't have a formula one cover, you put a go-cart and what's happened in this case

[00:15:32] is Carlos signs under steer because he was on the outside line trying to overtake Lecler. He turned

[00:15:38] in late. He had a bad exit. He corrected himself. So on that acceleration phase, in that acceleration

[00:15:43] phase, signs was already compromised. Whereas who was waiting patiently watching to see what's

[00:15:49] happening with Ferrari drivers turned in. He made sure he accelerated fine. So on the run down to

[00:15:56] the next corner, which was also a left-hender, Czechoperas would have naturally had the inside line

[00:16:02] and mind you it was not his front wing. It was wheeled to wheel so Paras are already made an

[00:16:07] inrode into signs this car. And usually when something like this happens what do you do?

[00:16:15] The driver who's being attacked in the case of signs, his best form of defense is to go

[00:16:20] towards a left so you sort of narrow down the angle for the next corner which means the driver

[00:16:25] who's attacking in this case, Paras has to break more in the dirty side and risked more. So that's

[00:16:31] what Carlos signs was trying to do, fair play to him for doing that. In the case of Paras,

[00:16:37] okay and I know Jolyon Palmer said he was trying to get the slipstream from Charles Lecler. Well,

[00:16:41] that's true, these cars always need a slipstream but more so in the case of Paras for him what he needs

[00:16:48] to do is he needs to make sure he doesn't give Carlos enough regular room. So Carlos has to drive

[00:16:55] straight and not towards the left. Now that's typical racing as it would have happened. So yes when

[00:17:02] Carlos tried to come into the left, Paras could have gone to the left to avoid him but he was like

[00:17:06] I have more than just my nose right up next to him. So in my mind, I think it was Carlos signs and

[00:17:13] maybe these cars are big wide long all of that. So Carlos signs just went there and then the tyres

[00:17:20] were so close that there was nothing that they could have done and then we saw what happened.

[00:17:25] So that's where I would put it. Both could have avoided it. Maybe Carlos signs a little bit more

[00:17:30] and now I literally am putting on my helmet as I visualized as I would love to be that car on the

[00:17:36] previous corner. You won their acceleration phase. You're definitely just you don't even have to break

[00:17:41] two-car meters a car length later. You have to break half car length later because you are

[00:17:46] almost alongside up there. So you've literally won the previous corner and corner to come

[00:17:51] and that's what Jacob has did out there. Have a different perspective, although I think that was

[00:17:56] very well explained and I know if it's actually true especially from a very tactical point of view

[00:18:03] but in my opinion I think it yes, it was a racing incident. It was in a case of a driver running

[00:18:10] driving into the other one but I felt search-up where Jacob's car has done a little bit more over here

[00:18:15] and the reason I say that is a very similar situation happened on the opening lap as well between Alex

[00:18:22] Alban and Nico Holkenberg. The thing is that section between turn two to turn three is slightly curved

[00:18:30] and I know everyone thinks of Parko as a circuit with right angle corners and straight straight.

[00:18:35] If you know what I mean but that turn two to turn three if you look at the the track limit

[00:18:41] white line that's slightly curved. So you don't take that run down to turn three parallel to the

[00:18:48] walls or parallel to the white line. So basically you enter that straight bit closer to the walls

[00:18:54] but as you make your way to turn three you slightly start drifting towards the left and this is

[00:19:00] what every driver did in qualifying in the race. I check Jacoberas and Carlos signs his footage as well

[00:19:06] and everyone had that same line. So you go closer to the wall when you enter and he slowly come

[00:19:11] inwards and this is exactly what Carlos signs did and that's what he said even in the post race

[00:19:16] media pen that I did not do anything erratic. He looked into the mirrors, he knew Sergio Perez was there

[00:19:22] but in my mind I think he was expecting Sergio Perez to keep that natural racing line of slightly

[00:19:28] which Perez did not do probably because he really wanted Leclerce slipstream and you know

[00:19:34] two laps to the end. If you don't take that slipstream then you probably lose that position. But in my

[00:19:38] mind Sergio Perez should have moved a little bit towards the left which is why I say Alex Alban

[00:19:44] and Ico Helkinberg had this very same incident situation on the opening lap and both of them

[00:19:49] they respected the natural racing line and moved a bit towards the left which is why I feel

[00:19:53] Carlos signs was not wrong and what he did because otherwise he goes on the dirty side of the track

[00:19:58] closer towards towards the track limit white line and that kind of compromises him. So

[00:20:04] that's why I don't feel it's signs is too much to blame in this case.

[00:20:08] I'm just glad it was a racing incident because somebody been, it's not as black and white as

[00:20:15] a lot of other incidents and I like the comparison and the fact that you checked Alban,

[00:20:21] also for slap early race you don't want to really take that race because you've got so much

[00:20:25] more coming up ahead but when you're doing it literally on the penalty mat lap especially with

[00:20:30] cars that are so evenly matched no longer down to strategy just down to rhythm momentum.

[00:20:35] Maybe that's also one of those differences that played out in Perez and signs is case I would say.

[00:20:41] Now there are two other things so everyone is often speaking about steering wheel angle

[00:20:45] and both of the steering angles were straight no one actually moved a bit towards the right

[00:20:50] or towards the left so they were going where they intended to go but Perez it just seemed for some

[00:20:55] sake that he wasn't reacting to signs coming up towards the left and he took good four seconds

[00:21:00] to come towards Sergio Perez and if you see a lot of the battles that happened before that I think

[00:21:05] it was you kiss to no da and land with ours or anyone else going through those tight sections

[00:21:09] you see the car ahead is trying to defend going a bit left and the drive-up behind

[00:21:14] usually reacts to that movement in Sergio Perez's case I think he was a two fixated

[00:21:20] on seeing where Charles Lecler was ahead to get his slipstream that he probably did not notice

[00:21:26] Carlos signs coming in at a pretty decent pace. But were the other drivers as close alongside

[00:21:33] as Perez was to sign so I don't recollect so I think the others were far behind or just in one situation

[00:21:40] out in one situation yes yeah okay great well it was a racing incident one of those really

[00:21:47] rare things that happened as well but yes I'm the only thing I can tell from disc clearly it could be

[00:21:55] define some Sergio Perez as well because we've seen so many racing drivers talk about it saying

[00:22:00] that we don't lift or we don't let go of our place when someone's going side by side and this is not

[00:22:06] some amateur level drivers we're talking about Max was tapping as a lure to something similar

[00:22:10] there is recently a video of Kevin Estrev, World in Jordan championship driver who's one

[00:22:15] everything that is to win with Porsche and sports car racing saying the same thing Sebastian

[00:22:18] Gwemie was side by side with me I just did not lift I just did not budge that's the kind of driver

[00:22:23] I am that could be what was going through Sergio Perez's mind as well last couple of laps

[00:22:28] big position on offer and not saying you're thinking about the job or the risks of it but to

[00:22:36] be in that position where you can see in touch a podium right in front of you that you don't

[00:22:41] lift off or you don't let go of a position like that do you could well be a scenario of that sort as well

[00:22:47] maybe that's actually one wonderful report because yes on one I need to create result yes

[00:22:52] result is coming at Baku his favorite circuit yes that result would have meant that you know

[00:22:58] Red Bull actually are not 20 points behind but few a points behind then then McLaren in the

[00:23:03] Constructors championship but to buy also no two points yeah exactly and I also know that

[00:23:09] when as a driver you know you want a corner and you're going to win the position at the next corner

[00:23:14] you pretty much just think about the next corner I would say and and that that natural transition

[00:23:21] that happens in the circuit etc the truth is he hadn't so let's let's take Monaco for

[00:23:27] example where Perez was in the same position he had Halkenberg to the left and McNeustin to the right

[00:23:33] he actually inadvertently or inadvertently ended up squeezing McNeustin and then there was a

[00:23:38] three car pile up him Halkenberg might be a near he wasn't squeezing signs to the left at all

[00:23:45] so irrespective of the natural line that a driver would take say in qualifying when you the only

[00:23:52] car on the line out there okay what happens with qualifying why do they all make space for each other

[00:23:57] because you want to take the natural line the fastest line possible when you are in wheel to wheel

[00:24:02] battle at an actual line goes away then the line that actually talks is the line which

[00:24:07] you're forced upon or you're forcing your rival upon and the line on which you'll don't end

[00:24:12] crashing even if it's the slowest line possible which is why when drivers are engaged in battle

[00:24:17] they actually they they clocked slower lap times yeah but did we see either of them check their mirrors

[00:24:26] because signs too so signs knew he even admitted that I knew Perez was there but then that's

[00:24:32] what he and I feel says just one second before the crash signs looked into the mirrors he saw Perez

[00:24:37] that close and he still went for it I mean it's not because of that he went for it but

[00:24:43] he was just drifting across in that angle probably expected Perez to move a bit towards the left as well

[00:24:49] and yeah mutual understand you know back in the day NASCAR had a feature where you could

[00:24:56] chat to another driver in the middle of a race and a really one maybe it's time for that no but

[00:25:03] thing is I am actually very gutted for for Sergio Perez because like one I'll say this is

[00:25:09] one of those tracks where he does he does exceptionally well and probably this might be the

[00:25:14] only track towards the rest of the season where he does so well and he needed that result more than

[00:25:19] anything a P2 more than the 18 points who have been a great confidence booster for for Czecho

[00:25:25] leading up to the last seven rounds and unfortunately no points to go home with so he's going to be

[00:25:34] he has a good race in in Singapore as well but yeah and I'll put you guys out there.

[00:25:39] He has dropped down to Ace the lowest you can drop down to in the drivers championship George

[00:25:44] Russell by virtue of that podium that he got gifted and the podium that got taken away from Czecho

[00:25:50] Perez means that he didn't have a point score this weekend but I just think Red Bull for them

[00:25:59] well we actually quick or not was it just the Perez factor that made us quick because you know

[00:26:05] now they are turning around and telling the world that oh in 2023 bar Solona we realize we had these

[00:26:11] problems and then they got accentuated in 2024 immola but Max was just winning it was the Max factor

[00:26:16] no now is this the Czecho Perez factor was Red Bull actually quick was it just the Perez factor they

[00:26:22] won't know we won't know till they go to Singapore and in Singapore it's a Red Bull factor which

[00:26:27] always bothers them and they were already saying that we're waiting for Austin because there

[00:26:31] is a gap of three weeks before we come to Austin Red Bull will be able to bring more parts to a

[00:26:36] real circuit as etc as well so just 27 minutes in and we've hardly covered 10% of all the stories

[00:26:44] maybe we should move on to the Piestry LaClaire battle because I know he's spoken about it so

[00:26:51] when you asked was it on merit or not the key thing is Piestry what I loved about him is he used his own

[00:27:00] experience and I remember you keep saying he's learning these tires he's learning these tires in

[00:27:04] stint one he messed up his tire trying to chase Charlotte laClaire. Instint two is engineer

[00:27:10] actually told them let's be smart here there are three tires you need to take care of the rear's

[00:27:16] front right okay his engineer actually told him this and promptly the next lap he pulled off that

[00:27:23] overtake okay and I think I think it was that that's what made it even more beautiful he went on

[00:27:29] his instinct he of course knew that oh my god I actually messed it messed this up before in the previous

[00:27:35] stint we went on instinct and then there was a classic McLaren feature that also helped them because

[00:27:42] before he pitted some of here a six second cap okay to Charlotte laClaire the minute they came out of

[00:27:49] the pits he was just one point some seconds away and that gap is what he made up because he could fire

[00:27:55] up his hards faster than Charlotte laClaire could and the difference in their outlap itself

[00:28:00] for three seconds. Ferrari's Ferrari's in lap and outlap both were bad both were bad.

[00:28:06] Yeah how bad. Was it driver error was it just not them firing on the tires? Just not having enough

[00:28:13] grip at all just not I mean yeah they're not firing up their tires as well as others talking

[00:28:19] what firing up tires let's not talk what Lewis Hamilton because he had a terrible terrible race

[00:28:23] trying to get his tires into the right operating window we'll come to that because some will

[00:28:28] ask an interesting question which Nathan on this actually pulled up a graph it's going to go upon

[00:28:33] social tomorrow. LaClaire's in lap 153 8 4 4 PSries in lap 153 5 1 1 so that's a 3 1 1

[00:28:46] half tenths out there point number one but the crucial one is the outlap. LaClaire's out like

[00:28:52] outlap 206 0 7 1 that's 2 minutes 6 seconds and PSry was 2 minutes 3 seconds 2 5 3.

[00:29:05] Okay so yeah so that's 3 1 1 half tenths in the in lap and 2.8 seconds in the outlap.

[00:29:15] It's crazy how many contributing factors exist to making a race car good right it's not just

[00:29:20] high speed or top speed it's not just best cornering speeds or best turning in abilities

[00:29:26] it also how quickly you fire up your tires it's also how well you manage them over the

[00:29:31] course of a long race because I suppose this same thing was what helped for R.B. better in

[00:29:37] Monza because they were kinder to their tires they didn't fire them up as much so over the course

[00:29:42] for long is still they were more sustainable it's a nice and and this is something that goes

[00:29:50] on notice usually you see the pit stop times if it's 2 seconds 3 seconds and you can quite

[00:29:56] clearly make a difference there but then what people usually don't notice is the in lap time or

[00:30:01] the outlap time more crucially if they have the right grip the tires are up to the right temperature

[00:30:06] and if they're setting a fast enough lap compared to the competitors behind so that's that's a

[00:30:13] in laps and outlapse. Some of the something else I was strange that happened

[00:30:17] Lando Norris was knocked out. And Q and I was a fine. That I saw.

[00:30:23] And in this case I'm hearing it's actually Ocons Vault like for once the Ocons Vault memes are real.

[00:30:31] No well I wouldn't say it's his fault maybe maybe the FI is fault because yeah it was literally

[00:30:37] it was literally in like for 150 meter part of the circuit where they flashed the yellow flag

[00:30:45] and it flashed for him and he had to lift off. Of course you made a mistake at turn 16 exit before

[00:30:50] that but it would have costed him like a couple of tents not more than that. Max had a similar

[00:30:54] mistake in Q3 and it cost him half a second so I don't think it was that turn 16 mistake that

[00:31:00] contributed to Q1 loss for Lando Norris where it was definitely that yellow flag and I know

[00:31:07] Andrea Stella said PFI need to reconsider what they did but I get this feeling and I said this

[00:31:14] on the wire play brought cost is after turn 16 even though it's a flat out 2.2 kilometers straight

[00:31:20] it's not really a straight you're still having high speed directional changes.

[00:31:25] Estabano Con was driving way offline, way slow through that high speed directional changes.

[00:31:32] Of course you know that drivers don't usually lose it in that section but you have to warn them

[00:31:38] so I can feeling that that yellow flag was also fairly apt even though it was for a very

[00:31:42] very short time and that just cost Lando Norris and that's how it all unfolded. So that was yet

[00:31:50] another weird story and then my favorite story from the weekend apart from the favorite moment where

[00:31:56] we had both some of this you definitely need to look this up on a social media. There was at one

[00:32:02] lap Oscar Piestry four wheel slide turn 16 curb. Oh I see. The minute I saw it I'm like that's

[00:32:09] it he's a sitting duck but the next half a second later because I was a gap likely a similar

[00:32:16] four wheel drive four wheel drift it was beautiful. It reminded me of like the 70s and the 80s

[00:32:22] where typically if this were ever happened the team would have said okay box this lap or box next

[00:32:27] lap because it would just not be able to handle it but both of them had the drift which went

[00:32:32] all also that luckily I couldn't really make the overtake but this is what something I tweeted you know

[00:32:38] if F1 drivers were racing car drivers are like monkeys they just follow the driver ahead's wheel tracks

[00:32:44] and motion and momentum so close you guys remember Russell George Russell in Singapore last year

[00:32:51] he went straight into the barrier he was chasing was it Piestry or Norris because somebody

[00:32:56] nudged the barrier and then Russell also went and hit the barrier and went straight because he's

[00:33:00] steering wheel broke. So when the field bunches up the way it does you know these beautiful

[00:33:08] motorsport moments come out where it doesn't matter if you're driver from the 60s

[00:33:14] 80s or the 2000s or the 2024 you are still doing port drivers have done for ever since there's been

[00:33:21] motor racing. I just want to see a visor cam of that battle in full. How cool will that be like

[00:33:29] for an hour and a half both of them fighting this is we say there'd be miss F1 in the 70s

[00:33:36] 80s right we say that ah we miss these awesome hot co-battle so the judges two drivers fighting

[00:33:41] on strategy fighting on driving merit fighting on driving ability we have it now and these are

[00:33:47] two drivers in two different teams and the same drivers had a different fight in a different circuit as

[00:33:52] well it's what more could we ask for I think all the days of crying and days of morning are

[00:33:57] very truly gone if we just get that one onboard footage of them of both of them look look

[00:34:03] in dire race with the visor cam especially man that will be I'd be paying for that stuff honestly

[00:34:10] I'll just put it down for an hour and a half and just watch. No this this would be a great

[00:34:14] race to actually have piastry and lookler speaking on a podcast and actually running us through

[00:34:19] what they were exactly thinking about on each lap okay I'm 5 tens behind him what was it

[00:34:25] thinking over here okay not this lap let's try to do it next lap but see the beauty of this this

[00:34:31] I think is even if you look at the classification sheet or even if you see the qualifying

[00:34:35] highlights or sorry if you see the highlights you really want to get a sense of what happened

[00:34:41] this is a race where I would recommend anyone to actually sit and watch through each of those

[00:34:46] minutes in one and a half hours this is one of those races where you actually have to watch it

[00:34:51] and watch it in one full sitting not the call not not the highlights not not not just the overall

[00:34:57] results you have to watch this whole race and it's a great race to recommend to anyone who is not

[00:35:01] a fan of this sport and the one weekend I miss it do the one weekend I miss it. Nice where yeah

[00:35:08] well that's also what we can wear in Max wish you missed a lot more Max wish tap and I like

[00:35:13] had Christian honor gave it away after the race in the podcast when he was asked and he said we

[00:35:18] left to see what different setups that were running between when he was asked why Max wish tap

[00:35:24] was so off Perez and I could just get a feeling Max is of course struggling in the Red Bull

[00:35:30] and Perez actually said before the race weekend that with the changes we are actually putting

[00:35:34] in place it'll help me with my driving style and when I read that quote I said okay wait a minute

[00:35:39] is this for real but actually turned out for real so we'll have to go to Singapore or like I said

[00:35:44] Austin before we even know what happened but we we we finally know what happened some of this

[00:35:50] very interesting so when the crash happened with P not P.S. sorry signs and Perez Nico Hulkinburg

[00:36:00] got a big hit on his front wing if you see his on board which somebody is tweeted to me on on Twitter

[00:36:06] and I've sort of shared it with everyone else you can actually see the camera like the cars

[00:36:13] picked up some big debris and it was from the crash and he was running a

[00:36:20] time he was running in the points okay so he was running 8 lose sort of in 9th and then

[00:36:27] no there yeah lose sort of in 9th and Berman would have been 10th okay for he hit this is on

[00:36:33] the penalty metal app he hit the wall before that and call up into over took him and then he hit

[00:36:37] this debris and then suddenly all of a Berman was also over taking him so Nico Hulkinburg finished

[00:36:42] 11th for the 7th time in 17 races and he could have scored points but that give Franco

[00:36:49] up into and Oliver Berman points which is I think an incredible story of course

[00:36:57] you know two drivers top drivers in the podium positions were taken out or whatever to each other

[00:37:02] out but Franco Kulkin to actually had the guts to start on that medium tire run the regular strategy

[00:37:09] while the ran Alex and Aralben on the William strategy what's the William strategy you just run

[00:37:15] reverse of everyone because that's what they need to do right Alben was holding his ground even

[00:37:21] against Lando Norris in that McLaren who is also on that reverse strategy so Franco Kulkin

[00:37:26] to making it work on the same strategy as the six drivers ahead of him or whatever 8 drivers

[00:37:32] ahead of him was incredible what a brilliant debut for him and Paku because he's never driven

[00:37:39] on the circuit before and then of course Oliver Berman has become the second the first driver

[00:37:44] ever to score points with two different teams in his very first race with those two different teams

[00:37:51] in the same season lots of filters here where they are there we go what a beautiful race

[00:37:56] week and you need to watch every lap of it not the highlights and I think it's immediately made

[00:38:03] the dropping of Logan Sergeant worth it and we know that call up into comes in with sponsors we

[00:38:08] know he comes in with money but executing this sort of strategies under him is that's what you

[00:38:14] can expect if you get him that from a paid driver I say keep him honestly see it's not exactly

[00:38:21] and this is why I feel this is the sort of audition that he wanted it's very very difficult to

[00:38:27] find an F1 seat these days especially if you're even if you are successful after whoever there's

[00:38:33] no guarantee that you will get that promotion into Formula 1 he was at the right place at the

[00:38:39] right time and probably with the right sponsors he said okay fine even if it's nine races

[00:38:43] and I don't have a seat for 2025 I'm going to give it my best shot and even if I can impress people

[00:38:48] on one race I'm sure there might be a helmet macho wanting to put me into an alpha tower

[00:38:54] case in point would what happened in the degrees at Edmonsa so I mean he's I think he's he's

[00:39:03] which has been a very difficult thing to do over the past couple of years none of his teammates

[00:39:07] have been able to do it but he didn't have he he him crampary qualified him he outqualified him

[00:39:14] I think by just one position if I'm not wrong way I think he was paid Albon was P9 or P9 P10

[00:39:20] he outqualified him the more experienced team mate around but that's also because Alben had their

[00:39:26] box and then his or his final lap was compromised yeah I mean nobody's still still

[00:39:32] code-own as ex-heater as yeah absolutely he's still managed to deliver that's not.

[00:39:37] Because Baku is a very difficult drag especially if you look at see the first and the third

[00:39:41] car sectors are fine that that middle sector is extremely technical and you can either be cautious

[00:39:47] over there because this is the first time driving there but otherwise just go straight for it and

[00:39:51] that's what he's done so impressive 51 laps throughout impressive time management and impressive

[00:39:57] overtakes I think what was it Nicole come back yeah I think a very impressive statement for from

[00:40:05] him this week. Oh what on this car all before we go to helmet because I saw a rise light up

[00:40:10] when we said that isn't it funny how a Formula 2 driver is coming in so much more prepared now even

[00:40:16] though they get such little destiny I see Oliver Behm in his first couple of races already feeling

[00:40:21] like he's driven 10 15 races call up into in his second races doing so well and it's feeling

[00:40:25] so confident with the car. It's like we have such a good crop of drivers nowadays and even though

[00:40:30] they haven't driven F1 per se it's amazing how ready they are even give me that to nearly I mean

[00:40:36] the lines that he was taking at Mons and the way he was chucking that was series car around before

[00:40:40] the crash I I'm cops Mac about how ready these drivers are and how many Formula 1 ready people

[00:40:47] we have nowadays yeah it's really difficult to assess because none of these drivers have driven an

[00:40:54] F1 car and you have an Oli Behm and who's not having a great F2 season you have

[00:40:59] where is Kimi Antonyle on on the standings maybe P6 or P7 not great in terms of the hype that's

[00:41:06] been created around them but they're still doing exceptionally well whenever they've given a

[00:41:10] being given a chance in an F1 car Kimi Oli and even now Franco it's great to see it's difficult

[00:41:14] judge who's actually ready for Formula 1 but I think I'll tell you one I think

[00:41:22] I'll tell you one I think the Formula 2 Formula 3 ladder is broken it exists purely for Formula

[00:41:28] 1 to make money right because look at it this way two years ago Logan's Argent top 5 let's put him in

[00:41:35] by our American driver whatever guess what happened to him then at that time jok one new was top 3

[00:41:41] or just before that was top 3 what happened to him so I think what's happening is drivers who got

[00:41:48] certain backing not just terms of sponsors but God for the figure like you know

[00:41:54] thought a wolf is for Kimi Antonyle they're sort of coming through portal letter and call

[00:42:00] up into a backed by Fernando Lonso himself and what call up into his done is he's suddenly used

[00:42:06] performances to bring himself on the radar of the likes of solber right yes he's done private testing

[00:42:13] the way jack two and has done Antonyle has done the drivers are coming a lot more prepared into

[00:42:20] Formula 1 these days even though actual Formula 1 testing is very limited but I get this feeling that

[00:42:27] F3 and F2 need to have a serious look at themselves because the series even though it's a spec series

[00:42:33] there is just so much variation between teams and cars that one suddenly ends up believing that

[00:42:40] a particular driver is better or not and then you look all over women and you look at Antonyle and now

[00:42:46] you know call up into who of course was also top 5 in Formula 2 when they get their breaks you are

[00:42:50] always wondering are these the most talented drivers who will who should get there to to Formula 1

[00:42:58] I know we're getting late and I know there's lots of other F1 stuff to talk about as well but

[00:43:03] now that we've put out this topic I just have to ask this question to you canal because you

[00:43:08] cover Formula 2 with such depth as well so our Theo Porscher and Christian Lungard and the likes

[00:43:14] or even Drugovic not that good as Formula 2 champion what's not working well why is the system

[00:43:19] the way it is right now I would say what happens is a minute you are entering your third season

[00:43:24] your chances of getting a break are so so little because that's just how the series is

[00:43:31] designed I mean look at make sure marker F32 seasons you want championship in the second F2

[00:43:35] seasons one championship in the second now he's celebrating a podium with Alpine and Beck which is of

[00:43:41] course not bad but you that's not why he wants to race so in the case of Drugovic look at Porscher

[00:43:47] he's a sour driver he's testing with sour this season sour has a way can see but they

[00:43:55] could be looking at Bortoletto who's just in Drembel last year announced as a McLean Jr

[00:44:00] lots of things it play and I believe it's about having that father figure Godfather whatever you

[00:44:08] call it but they want to see you in Formula 1 along with a lot of money and God forbid if you were

[00:44:15] a third or fourth year pretty much never gonna get to sit in a Formula 1 car.

[00:44:20] The thing is the hardest it's ever been to get into Formula 1 because previously you could buy

[00:44:24] away in because they would be financially let's have dependent teams teams that didn't really

[00:44:30] have lots of security now teams are secure thanks to the budget cap and he incredible popularity

[00:44:36] of F1 so he made money talent, Godfather and luck in Formula 2 man start dreaming about GT

[00:44:45] he's got a few young kids. A lot of luck in Formula 2 for that money you pay you're literally

[00:44:55] you're literally betting you're gambling but I shouldn't say more. Not here not here but

[00:45:03] when is the maybe afterwards but okay anything else that we've missed out this week and guys

[00:45:07] let's give it a thought and I can give it a scroll through my Twitter because my goodness my

[00:45:13] Twitter is exploding each time. Oh my god. Yeah I just realized that when Paris and

[00:45:21] science crashed I felt okay this has got to be the chance for burn mail under to come out on track

[00:45:27] for the first time in eight races he did not it was a virtual safety car for what was it one

[00:45:33] lap two laps so he's not you don't track for eight races and that's the longest that we

[00:45:40] not seen him on track for the last 20 years. He actually had a long straight back in 2003

[00:45:45] nine races it's even equal that at at Singapore which is going to be very tricky because that

[00:45:51] also was a very tight narrow street circuit but yeah we've not seen burn mail under for a long time.

[00:45:58] McLaren are leading the championship right now by 20 points and I think after Miami they had

[00:46:04] a point deficit of 115 points to Red Bull and if McLaren goes to win this championship the

[00:46:10] start of the championship that will be the biggest margin overturned by any pain in the current

[00:46:16] point system. And and probably this one last number based opinion I think that I think there

[00:46:23] is no driver's championship to talk about I think there is no point in putting papaya rules because

[00:46:27] Lando Nordas is 59 points behind Maxwell's lap and we have seven rounds which mathematically means he needs

[00:46:34] to have he needs to outscore Maxwell's lap and my nine points at each round and he's done that

[00:46:41] only once this whole season and that was in Maxwell's lap and retired in Australia. So it's a lot

[00:46:49] that's being asked of Lando Nordas to do consistently over the next seven rounds and I feel McLaren

[00:46:54] have the more important championship already in in their reach that the constructor's championship.

[00:47:00] And given the overalls that are happened in the constructor's championship guys we don't need

[00:47:08] drive to survive if this is how an F1 season is going to be. These kind of races are the best

[00:47:14] advertisements for Formula 1 yes drive to survive brings in lot of new story new ways of

[00:47:20] telling different stories from the season itself but when the racing is this court okay you don't

[00:47:26] you don't need more stories because there's just so much that happened on track but there was one

[00:47:32] thing which we shouldn't forget and I'm going to ask you guys a question go for somebody

[00:47:38] made a comeback to Formula 1 in old man who says he's a genius in Formula 1 you know I'm talking

[00:47:45] about of course of course of course he's known you all the street a few things.

[00:47:51] Yes wait a minute don't don't add to it so Flavio Brigatori is back in Formula 1

[00:47:56] guess who else is back in Formula 1. And you know me Campbell. No I don't know

[00:48:05] and Naomi Campbell is also back she waived a was supposed to wave the checkered flag I don't know

[00:48:11] something but yeah anyway she was in that chemical involved initially wasn't she with McLaren briefly

[00:48:15] herself picture of her in Lewis packet of thousands of years ago she was she was always with Flavio Brigatori

[00:48:22] now thank me for it later go google it okay that are a shell this after this episode ends

[00:48:30] which now would be a good time to because we have and we're going to end on a good

[00:48:35] form show wait wait wait no we we've ended by the oh what what's the bomb shell this is

[00:48:42] interesting I did not know this form of the answer okay Flavio is playing the game man he's

[00:48:51] he's flying anyway okay I don't know what he meant to Flavio Brigatori his life how

[00:48:57] did Flavio become who he is because this guy's a fascinating character do you you do

[00:49:02] know who is his wife right or who really data after that no hidey clue yeah what yeah

[00:49:16] yes Voli Flavio Flavio Flavio my friend how much were a masterclass

[00:49:25] it's unbelievable all you for someone not for could not reach which means which means

[00:49:31] that my next point is an entry climax so when the race ended it's all related under a virtual

[00:49:36] safety car but a Maxwell's tap and Pierre Gossley Nikoln can bug and as the Banocon actually

[00:49:44] over took their rivals as they normally would after race ends so Lander Norris was promptly on

[00:49:51] the radio saying hey Max is over taking everyone what's he doing there and George Russell is like

[00:49:56] I'm not sure what he's doing there so the over of course given a reprimand and a warning because

[00:50:00] this was unprecedented but anyway now it's time to drop our checkered flag and

[00:50:06] catch people in a few days for the Singapore preview I guess yeah we should do that but it's

[00:50:13] are too busy running up on the life of Flavio he's I find it amazing he started out as the

[00:50:20] commercial director of Beniton without even being interested in this sport and so he fired

[00:50:24] the entire staff of that team this is what I'm reading on wiki yeah no I want to document

[00:50:29] on this guy's life it's still good too good well that's the last thing I thought I'd be

[00:50:34] saying at the end of a Azerbaijan GP review but that's that's how suppose the kind of

[00:50:39] weekend and the kind of race it's been if you made the same mistake as I did I hope

[00:50:43] we've been able to bring out the entire story of the week and to you on this review and if you

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