Fernando Alonso brake-testing George Russell OR was he fair?
Williams Racing issuing a brutal team order - Alexander Albon replacing Logan Sargeant for the 2024 Australian Grand Prix.
Mercedes' double DNF, Red Bull Racing - could they have won with Max Verstappen or was Ferrari genuinely quick to get pole, which they failed, and win the race by scoring a 1-2. In fact, why was Charles Leclerc comprehensively beaten by Carlos Sainz?
Haas' double score, Yuki Tsunoda's points, Daniel Ricciardo's struggles and Sauber's slow stops - a lot of stories from this weekend's 2024 Australian Grand Prix.
Are you also convinced that Sainz's win wasn't the biggest story? For us, it wasn't because Max Verstappen retired and we'd have loved to see if the win was on merit. Sometimes, Formula 1 celebrates a non-Red Bull Racing win...just because.
Tune in!
(Season 2024, Episode 13)
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[00:00:00] Before we begin, I wanted to give a huge shout out to the folks at Amazon Music for partnering
[00:00:07] with us on this episode of the Inside Line F1 Podcast. But more on this later, right
[00:00:12] then let's get right into today's episode.
[00:00:30] Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the first ever F1.5 Inside Line Podcast episode because
[00:00:42] at last, the moment we've been dreaming of for the last couple of years actually now, wiping
[00:00:48] Max for Stappen off the race classification and then calculating what the race looks like
[00:00:52] that has come true was Stappen as DNFed and do you hear the smile on my face?
[00:00:58] Do you do you guys?
[00:01:00] It's such an irony just in the preview episode of the Australian Grand Prix for all millions
[00:01:07] of listeners out there. I don't know how many zeros or millions as but I know our listens
[00:01:11] have a lot of zeros so I'm just guessing it's the millions. We actually spoke of why it's
[00:01:17] actually not easy for Max to just show up and drive, get pole and win and get fastest
[00:01:22] lap. We spoke of that. We spoke of everything in Red Bull needs to fire and actually the
[00:01:27] right rear brake actually caught fire. That's what happened. I love my, you know, Max was
[00:01:33] so candid post race he said it's a mechanical sport these things happen the right rear
[00:01:39] didn't the right rear brake didn't release and it kept getting warmer and warmer and then
[00:01:42] what happens when things get warmer and warmer it catches fire. So just so be it. I would
[00:01:48] have loved to see what had happened to Red Bull because I think Czecho Perez said signs
[00:01:52] would have won even if Max didn't have issues very worried but the important thing is signs
[00:01:59] as one guys I've been predicting this for the last oh my god three years now and I've only
[00:02:04] gotten one opportunity a year and now it seems like the best way to win a Formula One Grand
[00:02:09] Prix is work very hard get to Ferrari, have a penisitis that's the best way to get a brilliant
[00:02:15] result on your turn clearly. I really think I'm not going go on. I definitely think there's
[00:02:21] going to be a surge of a penisitis surgery is happening in the UK and in Monaco the next
[00:02:26] couple of days and it's all going to be attributed to Carlos signs and the Australian Grand Prix.
[00:02:31] They're making quite a few jokes about it as well which is which is also nice to see but there's
[00:02:36] just some fire that's suddenly erupted in the guy and him doing so well after coming from
[00:02:42] the surgery recovering in less than two weeks and putting the car on the front row and winning
[00:02:48] the race that's incredible. And he made the best radio message post race on the appendicitis thing
[00:02:54] you know he and this wasn't broadcast maybe he'll come up on the YouTube and Twitter and whatever
[00:02:59] of Formula One, he actually said are you sure it's one appendicitis and not two because if it's
[00:03:04] the second I can remove that one as well and then he and his you know chief engineer on the
[00:03:08] radio we're having this banter and I think the statement of the races when Carlos signs said
[00:03:15] I am still jobless or next year and could there be a better job interview than this weekend for him?
[00:03:22] Yeah not making one mistake and finally all the claims of people saying that well maybe Farah
[00:03:28] he made the right choice. Who's the driver who's won the most races for them in the last couple of
[00:03:33] years? Funny how it all works out right but all attributed as we all discuss guys down to one minute
[00:03:39] mistake for Red Bull and I think what it's the day it was meant to be Max's 11th consecutive race
[00:03:45] win right? What a record there would have been 10 I think 10th yeah yeah but never the last
[00:03:51] thing. Yeah Carlos signs should rename himself from smooth operator to wish tap and streak breaker
[00:03:59] or something because he broke the 10 race winning streak then he said you know I can go on better by
[00:04:04] breaking it when it's just 9 in and can you imagine Charles look clear did not win it despite being
[00:04:11] the blue eyed boy the faster one on the single lap whatever whatever whatever that everyone does
[00:04:16] which are likely having said that I really wish this was a battle on track and not a wish
[00:04:21] tap and retirement because I know we've got you know half a million of those fans who listen to us
[00:04:27] are from the Netherlands they must be brewing the fact that in Singapore it was a Red Bull that didn't
[00:04:31] deliver in Australia as well it was a Red Bull that was the problem and for ones guys you know I
[00:04:37] thought of this way that for once Red Bull was under attack on track because in barren and Jedha
[00:04:43] they were under attack they were under attack off track with all the off track controversies.
[00:04:49] Exactly exactly and even then Sergio Perez only managed to finish 6th I mean Sundaramat the
[00:04:54] live F1 picked up that we had that conversation sparked so many debates in Mumbai I mean we have
[00:05:02] what 60 people turning up for the event literally 1015 of those engaging in a hardcore fight about
[00:05:08] what's next for Sergio Perez and more importantly you can get in that seat because something like P5P6
[00:05:13] I don't think that's going to be tolerated for too long you know I've been waiting for this moment
[00:05:17] not not for this moment where the staff and DNFs but I knew at some point in time this topic is going
[00:05:23] to erupt once again about Sergio Perez because yeah he's come second with the last couple of races so
[00:05:28] that's totally fine he's doing his job but the fact is that he's not close enough to Max for
[00:05:33] staff and on race day to give him cover to give him a choice of strategy and in the rare occasion
[00:05:39] that he actually doesn't finish or he retires or has a mistake there's no Sergio Perez to take
[00:05:45] the remaining points and that's actually going to hurt Red Bull Christian Hara actually came out to
[00:05:50] say that he had some sort of flow damage but the fact is that's what happens if you start in the
[00:05:54] midfield and you have a bunch of other drivers to overtake if you have the fastest car you were
[00:06:00] expected to start on the front row or on the front two rows Sergio Perez has not had that since
[00:06:05] the summer break last year but but he got that grit penalty thanks to Red Bull not in so that is also
[00:06:15] on the mystery from this weekend there are actually two mysteries or maybe the third one we can
[00:06:20] mix something up but the mystery from this weekend is was Red Bull actually competitive would they
[00:06:25] have been competitive at the hands of Max which happened that's one we can park that we'll never
[00:06:30] know but the bigger mystery my dear friends is date Fernando Alonso break test George Russell
[00:06:38] yes or not and did he actually do the right thing what do you guys think
[00:06:45] who grew up as a good guy go first go first go first wait a second I know why this silence because
[00:06:54] the name middle name is Fernando it's not his dad's name or his family name it's middle name
[00:06:59] is Fernando maybe he's not in Fernando Alonso as well and someone is like are there a lot of
[00:07:04] listeners in Spain who are also probably there and so on but go for it's all I mean I'm so
[00:07:10] conflict about this one it's little naughty for sure but the thing is that's what Fernando Alonso
[00:07:16] is when you see that fine line between what's naughty and what's down to it illegal it's a very
[00:07:23] very thin line very thin margin that only someone like Fernando Alonso with his renewed enthusiasm and
[00:07:29] a constant sense of bestering other people like hey I will push you to the absolute limit that's
[00:07:34] what he's found it and in most of these cases it's someone like Fernando Alonso who can exploit it
[00:07:38] at the end of the day this two would start this one was illegal so here comes the penalty but there
[00:07:42] have been so many other times like back in Amela where if you see the kind of moving under breaking
[00:07:47] he's also done somewhat claim that to be down right illegal but he's managed that in the past so
[00:07:51] if there's anyone who does it it's Fernando Alonso I think we should expect it shouldn't we gonna
[00:07:56] you know frankly I love Fernando's post-race statement he said we anyway drive under the limit
[00:08:02] of the car which means that they're driving slowly across the whole circuit and you choose to decide
[00:08:07] where you want to be slow I decided to be slow at that corner right and why and I see this is a
[00:08:14] motor race you're not driving on the on the motorway or the Autobahn or you know some street of Mumbai
[00:08:19] or whichever part of the world you live in right this is a motor race you will use all skills that you
[00:08:25] have inside the cockpit to try and get position we see I mean 2016 Abu Dhabi comes to my mind
[00:08:32] yeah who is Hamilton was driving as slow as he possibly could of course he didn't it didn't lead to
[00:08:38] you know a mistake or or an accident or whatever but he you know driving and winning the race at
[00:08:43] the slowest possible pace the good old saying that goes so I actually stand with Fernando
[00:08:49] it's down to two things what he did was cheeky was naughty as you said what George Russell of course
[00:08:56] you know and they're great friends I don't have the friendships he'll continue as after being put
[00:08:59] in the wall George Russell can't blame Fernando even though he's indirectly done that for him
[00:09:07] losing control of his car yeah okay he and of course one of the reasons he also lost control is not
[00:09:14] because he's not talented it's because of the dirty ad that these cars anyway generate so it was
[00:09:18] circumstantial right and you know Fernando also has said it very beautifully in that statement of
[00:09:25] hissing I had this in Imola 2005 2006 as recently as Brazil 2020 2023 with Czecho Perez as well right
[00:09:33] and he said you know this is how motor racing has always been but if you look at Brazil sorry if
[00:09:39] you look at Imola 2005 2006 Fernando is Fernando but Russell is no Schuacher that's the key point
[00:09:46] to remember out here I mean I'm not taking anything away from the talent but it's just circumstantial
[00:09:50] and this is actually what I love about motor racing we are just getting too sanitized yeah solid syndrome
[00:10:00] no what's from how I go do you want to know because he no matter how much I love the guy the
[00:10:08] fact is that what he does on track is always slightly more different than what others do he's
[00:10:13] he's really a wily customer he knows the rule book in and out and he always tries to exploit
[00:10:19] these loopholes he's saying we've seen that a lot over the last couple of years we'd rush at 21
[00:10:24] and a lot of other races as well he's always trying to do something naughty like he's like you say
[00:10:31] and I wouldn't be surprised that he's done this on purpose because he can do it
[00:10:36] and and the sort of radio exchanges that happened after Russell crashed was also a little
[00:10:43] sus in a way and that really did not come in in the discussion with the stewards because he
[00:10:48] apparently said that he's having problems with the car but what Fernando then goes on to say
[00:10:53] in in the stewards discussion is that I slowed down because I wanted to slow down the only problem
[00:10:58] is he knew that George Russell was closing in and he was closing in quick because he had
[00:11:03] fresh tires so probably doing that move in that fast section is probably a risk he
[00:11:11] thing to do which is where I feel that he should have probably done better wait a minute so are you
[00:11:16] saying if he pulled that move in a slow section it would have been okay no just just being mindful
[00:11:22] about the fact there is a driver who's really closing on only there's only half a second of distance
[00:11:26] between you and the driver behind and the fact that he had not followed that pattern of breaking
[00:11:32] in the previous seven ten laps that's always all what the stewards are going to be seeing
[00:11:36] and the fact that he mentions Imola 2005-2006 stewards are literally inconsistent over two
[00:11:41] consecutive seasons there's there's going to be no comparison to Imola 15-17 years ago that's the
[00:11:46] thing even if there is no condition. Is it Imola what we always remember when we go to Imola
[00:11:51] we remember that fight. Yes that's what I mean is a driver what I mean is a driver shouldn't drive
[00:11:57] to what he thinks is towards will consider fair or not a driver at least thinking from my driver's
[00:12:02] helmet if I may even though I've driven like one thousand of what Fernando has done I think you use
[00:12:09] all the tools you have I mean you go inside you go outside tomorrow you'll have a rule saying you
[00:12:13] can't overtake on the outside if you're half a wing ahead behind I just think it's getting too
[00:12:17] sanitized and a very interesting thing from Fernando's post okay he says so being and I'm reading it
[00:12:24] out he says so being responsible for not making every lap the same is a bit surprising and I
[00:12:31] so stand with that you know when you are in so what's he saying he's saying I break 100 meters
[00:12:37] earlier so what is there a rule that says I have to break at a certain point no okay so it's not
[00:12:44] it's not down to Russell it's not down to stewards it's just how we keep sanitizing the sport and
[00:12:50] you know he also I love this and and and Fernando is not a native English speaker so I'm
[00:12:56] you know if he's written this is that's great otherwise he's gotten help which is even better
[00:13:01] he also said we wouldn't be having this conversation if there was no gravel at that corner
[00:13:06] which is so true that I agree that's true see that's one thing I really agree with because the
[00:13:12] fact is that although it mentions this in the rule book that penalties are not handled out
[00:13:16] depending on what consequence happens this is the same case that happened in Australia last year
[00:13:21] as well it is not because of allows who crashing with science that science was given the penalty
[00:13:26] or the only fact that at incident should have shouldn't have happened I genuinely feel in today's
[00:13:31] case George Russell retiring from the race was was probably the reason why this was investigated so
[00:13:37] much and the fact that he was given a drive-through or a 22nd penalty in the end that is one thing
[00:13:42] that I really think was a contributing factor but I still don't agree to the fact that drivers cannot
[00:13:49] a drivers cannot have different patterns when it comes to the lap time in that in that case you could
[00:13:54] probably break test or you could lose speed on a straight right in the middle of a straight I really
[00:14:00] feel that there are designated breaking points usually tend to do that why would you why would you
[00:14:04] do that much earlier that's what no that's what on that as well right it would be horribly inefficient
[00:14:12] to break somewhere like the straight so where would you break in that particular breaking zone and
[00:14:16] then you can be particularly naughty about when and how because there are certain corners but even
[00:14:21] if you break you don't lose that much if you still the other person down because you might lose three
[00:14:25] tens but the other well they've got to slam it hard even more than you and end up having a five
[00:14:29] tenth of a second loss so that's where it's it's so cheeky is it not yeah and let's remember
[00:14:35] George if you were to talk purely on breaking performance George's breaking performance would have
[00:14:41] been better than Alonzo's why he was on fresh retirees hands more great et cetera et cetera so Fernando
[00:14:46] breaking earlier would have anyway been there can never be a break marker that everyone has to break
[00:14:52] no no at this point yeah if you break before the point hey it's inappropriate slow driving because
[00:14:57] I have the I have the the statement to open out here and it says in a pro slow down in a
[00:15:04] proprietary sorry at no time may a car be driven unnecessarily slowly irractically or whatever else
[00:15:11] then that follows and I just think it's it's not fair this is ridiculous and I would have said this
[00:15:17] I don't care if it's Alonzo it could have been Logan Sargent maybe I wouldn't have been as vocal but
[00:15:22] but so then once again I know I'm diving very deep into this but then south the day by 2021
[00:15:28] do you think what was happened did was right or wrong because in my opinion that's actually dangerous
[00:15:33] I mean I'm continuing to myself but even though there's no particular breaking zone and that was
[00:15:37] horribly inefficient what Max did we still still like possible oh that's not you know Fernando's
[00:15:45] done this and Abu Dhabi 2023 as well he did that with Lewis Hamilton he was looking to the mirrors
[00:15:50] and slowed down right before a turn and that was no he was not penalized for that so this is the
[00:15:55] thing if Fernando has a history of doing these really weird things and I really think he's had a
[00:16:02] couple of instances in the pit lane as well when Sergio Perez he exits the pit box and he breaks
[00:16:07] there say go he came right in between and I had to stop on the brakes this happened in south
[00:16:13] the Arabia as well so he's had that sort of a history where it tries to be a little cheeky at times
[00:16:18] and I think this time he might have gone a little overboard and the only reason I think the penalty
[00:16:23] is given is because the stewards don't believe his version of the story if that's what he intended to do
[00:16:30] right but they don't have evidence that 100 person proves that this was what he was trying to do
[00:16:35] and it seems that it was a little dangerous it's just one person who can actually confirm this was a
[00:16:40] break test or no is David cool-tard for all the new fans at the sport joining in when Somal was
[00:16:45] all of three years old maybe you weren't even born then I don't know 2003 nobler gring Fernando
[00:16:53] Lonzo versus David cool-tard in the breaking zone for the chicane nobler gring was an old circuit
[00:17:00] in Germany which held the German Grand Prix again for the new fans that's when Fernando actually
[00:17:05] break tested David cool-tards I'm gonna ask David cool-tard what he thinks or happened but we can
[00:17:10] actually move on because we are not stowarding I'm just I'm just a bit too it's too it's too it's too it's
[00:17:15] more yeah I mean yeah there's no right wrong yeah exactly or rather you know Fernando is you know
[00:17:22] been put in the wrong by the stewards just the way Lewis Hamilton was made to lose his eighth
[00:17:27] title by the stewards so let's just move on but yeah actually you may love him you may hate him
[00:17:31] but you can't quite ignore him especially if you're the stewards after looking at all the things he's
[00:17:36] doing but another man who cannot be ignored and his results can also be not being
[00:17:40] ignored there was Hamilton what a heart break huh I mean for Mercedes a double DNF
[00:17:46] soon enough I don't even remember in God's years when that happened because I remember we when
[00:17:50] we learned two stats firstly the one that whenever we see who was against the NS uh whenever we see
[00:17:57] Lewis Hamilton DNF Carl Lawson says he's going to go to his first time
[00:18:02] no no no no no no no no Castle exactly that crazy start and in the second one the
[00:18:07] most serious last double DNF was in 2018 2018 until year 2018 sixth year such a rare one
[00:18:14] seriously last no score double was 2021 Baku or something when they did some something
[00:18:21] yes yes yes yeah yeah but uh Lewis Hamilton not scoring uh he probably decided if Max is not
[00:18:29] competing. This isn't really a race. I race in Formula One, not Formula 1.5. I might as well just
[00:18:34] park it. But again, Lewis said, you know, I didn't feel anything. The engine just went
[00:18:39] like that, which is such a strange thing. And Lewis is actually building a great number of courts
[00:18:44] which we can keep using. You know, he said typically we struggle in the high speeds and not in the
[00:18:48] low speeds, but here we were struggling in the low speeds and not the high speeds. So his point
[00:18:54] is just struggling irrespective of so-good characteristics.
[00:18:58] Insane, insane. And with that we have another drop from Russell as well which is also quite a big
[00:19:03] story in itself. But I'd love to know what you thought it was, because you've driven far more
[00:19:09] race cars than all of us have. I'm just intrigued. Like what could it be? Because clearly,
[00:19:14] as Martin Brottel said on the commentary, cylinders don't die down that quickly. It must be just
[00:19:19] something switched off. Maybe electrical power or getting it there. It's weird, have we heard
[00:19:24] anything from them? I'm going to let you guys in on a big secret. Okay. Whenever manufacturers
[00:19:32] have... And I mean manufacturers. So I mean Ferrari, I mean Mercedes, I mean Renault Honda for four
[00:19:37] of them since we've got four of them, right? Whenever there's an engine failure or any kind of failure,
[00:19:43] they will typically say technical issue and leave it at that. They don't use the word failure because
[00:19:49] it impacts the overall brand. And Lewis Hamilton has actually gone and converted a PR mistake. Not
[00:19:55] PR mistake, but a PR Harakiri if that's the word by saying engine failure on the radio. And I can
[00:20:01] tell you and the secret is 2014 and I'm not going to name all the brands but you all can take a guess
[00:20:08] when the hybrid power unit for all blowing up left, right and center. There was a DICTAT sent by
[00:20:14] manufacturers to customer teams saying you are not allowed to say what failed on the cars. We will
[00:20:21] issue the statement. You can say the car failed, but you are not allowed to say what failed. Remember
[00:20:28] formula one is also PR exercise if you Google Ferrari F1 engine blow up there will be nothing on
[00:20:34] the official channels similarly from a city, similarly for whatever because these are incidents that
[00:20:39] are taken away. So P Lewis Hamilton, whatever it is that blew up. There was an engine failure. What part
[00:20:43] of the engine we don't know because now it's no longer an engine. It's a power unit as we know.
[00:20:47] But that's a PR headache for Mercedes, which he's like I'm anyway going so I'm as well
[00:20:53] ditch this the brand if I can. So this is just basically the case with disgruntled champions.
[00:21:02] Yeah exactly no holds word absolutely what a terrible terrible day for Mercedes but you know what
[00:21:10] the best part was we saw and actually we by the way folks don't laugh at us because we were
[00:21:15] really serious about this right. Don't break our hearts but when we heard the news of Williams
[00:21:20] actually ditching Logan Sarge and we thought why don't we invite him to one of our inside line F1
[00:21:24] pit stops in Mumbai. We sent him the invitation just in Kamsunbaram and that is that is a bit sad
[00:21:30] we we were bitterly disappointed not to host Logan but Williams who are absolutely right desperate
[00:21:37] in what they were doing and out of everything that could have happened to make sure that Williams
[00:21:41] would be paid off as a team that had took the right call, Campbelled on something and it paid off.
[00:21:45] They didn't get the points but not one but two has got them. What a bitter disappointment that must
[00:21:53] be like you better your house or something and you're worst anyway ends up getting it and laughs
[00:21:58] right in front of your face at least with it. See the fact is that has definitely I mean it's
[00:22:03] a surprise that has been doing so well considering how they campaign ended last year but the fact
[00:22:08] that they have been literally honored in the race in each of the opening three rounds and from
[00:22:14] Williams's perspective I think they did the right decision of giving Albin the car over Logan
[00:22:18] Sarge and I think people have spoken enough about it but as fans we just look at it from a sporting
[00:22:24] view we want everything to be level playing field, we want everything to be on merit whereas teams
[00:22:31] and constructors and sponsors have to look at it from the business perspective as well. They need
[00:22:36] to give they always need to put their best foot forward, they need to safeguard themselves because
[00:22:42] it's a very close championship and every single point matters so in that sense Albin was their
[00:22:48] best chance and this actually takes me back to this little dialogue in this movie Rush which I've
[00:22:54] always wondered when can I use when can I use anything this was the perfect moment when James Hunt
[00:23:00] goes for that interview at McLaren one of the team engineers tells the boss at McLaren that
[00:23:07] you'll never win the championship with Jackie X you just might with James Hunt and this is exactly
[00:23:14] the case that happens with Logan Sarge you'll probably not go point with Logan Sarge but he's just
[00:23:19] might with Alex Albin that's probably what was going through James Hall's mind and that that led to
[00:23:24] this change. Okay I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot up a question. What we're all okay with it
[00:23:29] because it was Logan Sarge and who's not proved himself let put let's put it bluntly yeah would we
[00:23:34] have been less okay with it if there was another driver who had proven himself a lot more of course
[00:23:41] or would it be okay to just back the best horse who can get to the once. And it's happened historically
[00:23:46] as well let's not forget Formula One has been very capitalistic in that nature if you may because
[00:23:52] normally teams wouldn't think about okay which one of these drivers would win because that gentleman
[00:23:57] driver error is more or less gone nowadays so it's more about who can get fetch us the best bank
[00:24:04] for the buck and it's happened with Senna as well who actually used to dictate which one of his
[00:24:08] other drivers would become his team mate at Lotus that was genuinely a thing same with McLaren as
[00:24:13] well. Now this with the team now supporting Alex Albin I mean why wouldn't you you've got to make
[00:24:18] sure that you make what your best foot forward but what it does do is pretty much ensure that for
[00:24:23] Logan Sarge this is the final nail in the coffin there's no coming back from this if the team says
[00:24:28] we don't even trust you to score points in any case even at the most chaotic race that's it I think
[00:24:34] the writing's on the wall. Even at the most chaotic race and a race we actually think we will be
[00:24:39] good at that's also one of the things right and guess what Alex and Albin was 900 of a second away
[00:24:46] from the points and you know I actually ducked ducked through some strategy and Albin was very
[00:24:53] clear he said we weren't quick enough so we kept pitting early to try and being the fight we kept
[00:24:58] pitting early to try and being the fight and in the last 10 laps we just gave up because that was it
[00:25:04] we couldn't pay it again and then you know we ran out of pace and that's what happened and hats off
[00:25:09] to us because like you said Sundaram has been in the fight all three races right they've used the team
[00:25:14] work to get points etc and both has drivers scoring today is great for them both of them actually turn
[00:25:21] around and said this year it's actually so much fun to go racing because on Sundays typically we
[00:25:27] would wake up knowing we're going to be nowhere in the race pace okay they're saying now we actually
[00:25:32] know that we will have a chance in the races even though we've sacrificed single lap pace so
[00:25:37] this whole change of guard that's happened this whole more technical outlook to how has
[00:25:44] performs that's that's happened has delivered them results and guess what it's continued to add
[00:25:50] points while Albin hasn't and you know Saubur hasn't and whoever else hasn't but yeah it's
[00:25:57] it's great testimony to how they've just focused on race pace wait Sundaram can I just throw a
[00:26:03] spanner in the works and really make it a tough conversation for all of us this more technical
[00:26:09] approach can be associated with who who is the most technically sort of shy reserve but doing
[00:26:15] their own thing kind of lead in informal one it's Ayahu Khmatsu has his new leader how much of
[00:26:20] this can be attributed to him because development started up in Guntas now he was around and that's
[00:26:24] a fact that has to be a development can't be coming in that early so it's weird how Guntar's one last
[00:26:30] hurrah is what is Turing Haas on and now he stuck left there just interviewing the race with her
[00:26:35] that's such a sad decline this this kind of looks a little bad on Guntas tinder as well because the
[00:26:41] moment he he leaves the team everything seems to be working well at least at least on on on race day
[00:26:47] but I always thought that the problem wouldn't have gone away because Ayahu Khmatsu was always
[00:26:52] a part of the team and he was always a part of the problem I always felt that this was not the right
[00:26:56] direction and he's clearly proven me wrong and probably proving a lot of people wrong who doubted
[00:27:02] him at least in the first three races like Guntal said the team work has been impeccable and I'm sure
[00:27:07] he's been setting a lot of these processes within the team so that they're able to maximize and get
[00:27:12] the most points possible last race and this race teamwork has been impeccable which is great
[00:27:18] and I must say actually Guntas tinder by the way in my view at least did a really bad job of
[00:27:22] interviewing the drivers I don't know why you're repeating the questions and whatever so not only did
[00:27:27] this team shine on track but his now media role whatever he's taken has not sort of had the best
[00:27:33] debut as possible but I'll put it this way I don't think it is Guntas tinder swan song I don't think
[00:27:37] Haas has really developed itself as such what Haas has done is it's bettered its tools and it's
[00:27:43] extracting more from their current setup something that even Farahri is actually focusing on doing so
[00:27:49] it's not really about the upgrades and changes and stuff it's just can we just focus and do it
[00:27:54] and remember f1 is a political sport maybe Guntur didn't want them to do it last year who knows maybe
[00:27:59] I out didn't want to do it thinking hey if I do it and Guntur takes the credit I don't get to be
[00:28:05] you know the team principle and now if I turn around and say if you make me you know the team
[00:28:10] principle while also being the head of engineering I'll do it so it could be a mix of that but
[00:28:14] can you imagine Haas is actually scored ahead of Alpine and ahead of Sauer and for the life of
[00:28:19] me I can't remember the 10th team that is not scored yet but wait on that on that really
[00:28:26] I wonder inside on that what what tools are we talking about like was Haas the team
[00:28:32] whose new team principle was disappointed to say 20,000 people or rather 20,000 gap arts being
[00:28:37] managed on excel that report came out recently right I'm guessing that's Williams
[00:28:42] that's Williams Genevieve that's what I'm guessing because that's what it sounds like I couldn't
[00:28:45] go get a chance to read the whole thing but it's interesting how at Haas this whole dynamic is now
[00:28:51] shaping up like what sort of parts are they upgrading is like the wind tunnel is clearly not there
[00:28:55] is but is it more technical software stuff that they're building upon so from what the team's been saying
[00:29:00] they're saying we're actually not building new tools we are bringing regular upgrades as we
[00:29:05] put right but we are just focusing a lot more on setups and how you do that is by actually
[00:29:11] focusing on specific goals during your run plans and like we saw in preseason testing Haas actually
[00:29:17] didn't focus on single lap pace right and they are still you know in fighting distance for Q3 in
[00:29:22] fact Magnuson got into Q3 this time Hulkenberg got in last time right so what they actually
[00:29:27] done Somalize they said you know what we'll figure out single lap pace why don't we just focus
[00:29:32] on extracting fine tuning whatever it is that we can get in terms of race pace and that's what Haas has
[00:29:39] you know been doing even in the free practices that happen and that's that's beautiful to see
[00:29:43] that because you know the general perception with now F1 focusing on who's bringing what upgrades
[00:29:48] and teams have to declare what upgrades they bring but truth is just because you've got upgrades
[00:29:53] doesn't mean they will work right you can even extract more from your existing packages and you
[00:29:59] Nico Hulkenberg Kevin Magnuson they are experienced racers they know what they're doing they know
[00:30:04] what's happening for them to actually turn around and send him Magnuson actually said this saying
[00:30:09] I wake up on a Sunday and I wake up you know knowing that I can go in the fight otherwise last year
[00:30:14] I switch is wake up knowing I'm going to go backwards in the race and that's so much more confidence
[00:30:18] building you know as a driver you know your tyres are not going to give up and so they've just
[00:30:22] worked this setup out to manage the tyre rate it's amazing how they must have managed right height
[00:30:27] things like damper heights and the way everything works suspension setups aerorakes
[00:30:32] like the rig angle at which they work it's crazy isn't it syndrome I'm also wondering
[00:30:37] so Haas have been getting points because they've been doing things right okay and their only competitors
[00:30:43] are the RB team the Sabur team and now Alpine are they getting it wrong because quite clearly there's
[00:30:49] a lot of wrong happening there Sabur especially in the Pitlane Alpine have just generally lost a lot of
[00:30:54] pace the Visa Cash-Up RB team is functioning on one line at this point in time so quite clearly
[00:31:01] the competitors don't have it all right at this point as well and that's that's the beautiful formula
[00:31:06] one when you strike when your competitors don't that's the best time to actually you're sort of
[00:31:11] you know when you choke slam someone when they're anywhere dizzy kind of WWE talk if I can go back
[00:31:17] 30 years to solve the problem whatever but Sabur clearly you know still slope it stops and they
[00:31:24] actually believe they could have scored a point okay team representative I don't know some strange
[00:31:32] title that they have their brew bravi I think or bruni I can remember alurie bravi yeah
[00:31:38] Alessandro is his name he actually went and said you'll fix it we'll fix the slow stops and
[00:31:43] Walteri Bota has actually got our answer we we had the race pace to fight for the point so
[00:31:48] I'm really hoping they bring that to the 4 as well and we talk we spoke of Alpine
[00:31:55] Ocon was the only 3 stopper had a tear off stuck in his break duct at some point and I was
[00:32:01] saying you know which was a 13 not to have scored points yet it's of course Williams that is not
[00:32:05] scored points Albin has finished 11 in the last two races that's the that's the fun part out
[00:32:13] here but anything else that we have missed Yuki salota he has scored points
[00:32:18] he has you said hero home race hero rating both both home race drivers played second fiddle
[00:32:27] Daniel Ricardo I've noticed at the the slow he gets the longer his media answers and interviews go
[00:32:34] because he's getting all philosophical and you know in depth I'm sorry I'm not making fun of him
[00:32:41] I'm just saying you know that's the correlation that I've seen but anyway you know
[00:32:45] Yuki salota single handedly finishing seventh scoring six points has now got racing bulls six
[00:32:53] plays in the constructors championship they already have become the seventh team to have scored
[00:32:58] and all teams all midfield teams have said in a perfect race if all top five teams finish our
[00:33:04] chances of score points are zero you know one you know one thing I actually did through this whole
[00:33:08] weekend is I watched the classification of every session free practice and the two names that were
[00:33:14] really impressing me throughout were oh interesting uh Oscar Piazzi and Yuki su no da because su no da was
[00:33:21] always there or there about in the top 10 10 11 and he's been showing that he has a sort of pace
[00:33:26] right through all this weekend which and him still getting points p7 kind of just shows that he was
[00:33:31] strong whereas it is completely the opposite for Danny Rick unfortunately Oscar Piazzi also was
[00:33:38] quite good throughout this whole weekend he did have that little off uh going off track today and
[00:33:42] he had a slow pit stop as well but it would have been nice to have him on the podium he would have
[00:33:47] been the first australian to get on the podium in f1 history Danny Rick did get it on the Danny
[00:33:52] Rick did get it get dead get on the podium in australia but he was disqualified no it's the first time
[00:33:58] he would have been the first time he's gonna be on the podium exactly 20 years can't he
[00:34:04] what do you mean we never australian on the podium i apologize i apologize
[00:34:10] well a quick look at the standings i'm gonna go quick look at the standings very interesting all
[00:34:14] all of a berman who's driven one race and probably is only going to drive one race is at six points
[00:34:20] Yuki su no da has a six point yeah i totally forgotten about him yeah and he had a disastrous
[00:34:25] f2 weekend but they are two points away from Lewis Hamilton who's of course not scored this weekend
[00:34:31] and uh in general just a four point gap between the top two which is Leclerc which
[00:34:37] happened i know we probably five races down the line it's gonna be like a hundred point gap or
[00:34:41] something but it is just so close out there and oscar piastry is actually one point ahead of
[00:34:48] lendo noris in fifth place and if there's one question i actually go back uh when i think of
[00:34:54] today's race or this weekend's race is good Ferrari have taken pole and then led from their
[00:35:00] win because both the Ferrari drivers lost their laps and signs for pole and Leclerc just for whatever
[00:35:06] he could have gotten in that fast on nine and ten sequence and was it that the tyres were done by
[00:35:12] then or maybe it was just the wind and the high speed you know we remember wind is always brought
[00:35:17] in a lot of inconsistencies in their package uh but who knows you know if Ferrari were genuinely
[00:35:22] in the fight or if max could have made something out of it yeah exactly exactly uh very crazy
[00:35:30] crazy weekend after all i mean what an incredible one and we have a different winner it is galos
[00:35:36] signs i can't believe it guys so many races have been predicting him to win and he's got it once again
[00:35:41] but folks what a beautiful one it is to end our race weekend on but we'll be back with more firstly
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