Ep 227- Ghajini

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[00:00:48] Hi, and welcome to a new episode of Khandaan Podcast. My name is Asim Berne and I'm

[00:00:53] joined with my lovely co-host, Amrita and Sujoy.

[00:00:57] Hello everybody.

[00:00:59] Hi everyone.

[00:01:00] Eid Mubarak. I think this comes out when Eid will have dropped. It's funny to do it like

[00:01:05] in the past when it's not happening yet.

[00:01:07] We have such professional broadcasters like pre-recording for a joyous occasion.

[00:01:12] Yeah.

[00:01:13] This isn't the Eid special, but we're recording three weeks in advance.

[00:01:17] So Eid, you know, we're coming with a banger, with a big movie. So I'm hoping, you

[00:01:21] know, people enjoy it. It's one that they've been asking for a long time.

[00:01:24] But I also just wanted to say a little thing that was really bothering me.

[00:01:29] And I think I don't think we've talked about it in a while on the podcast, but I've been

[00:01:34] fasting this whole month and like literally every prayer has been for Palestine.

[00:01:38] And I hope like with Eid, people take a moment to, you know, just think about what's

[00:01:45] going on in the world and save a prayer for the poor kids in Palestine that are dying.

[00:01:50] It's been a big thing for me.

[00:01:51] Like I've been very like, you know, emotionally involved with it.

[00:01:54] But like having fasted the whole month, having Eid and like it's just like it's

[00:02:00] been weird too fast while there's a genocide been going on, like mass murder has been

[00:02:04] going on when opening your fast and like kids thinking of kids that they're

[00:02:09] probably eating, you know, grass and lemons or not having food or not arriving

[00:02:15] in time to get to the food truck and not even getting beans or, you know, getting

[00:02:20] crushed by food parcels.

[00:02:22] And a lot of it has been really bothering me.

[00:02:25] And I felt, I don't know, we've not for having such a large podcast, I felt

[00:02:30] I haven't talked about it in a while.

[00:02:32] So I think I wanted to talk about it again.

[00:02:34] And yeah, just my thoughts on Eid happening and people just think, you

[00:02:39] know, don't for one year, don't post your, you know, glamorous Eid feasts

[00:02:45] and, you know, your amazing clothes and stuff like that.

[00:02:50] Like just have a bit of, you know, constrained.

[00:02:53] I feel it's just yeah, I'm just like pre thinking about what's going to happen.

[00:02:59] And I don't want to judge anybody.

[00:03:00] Everybody do what you do.

[00:03:01] It's a tough world if something is bringing you joy, let it bring you joy.

[00:03:06] But there is also so much sadness.

[00:03:08] And I think this time, even with the joy, a lot of the sadness is mixed in.

[00:03:13] So just wanted to kind of say that for our Eid special.

[00:03:17] Yeah, I think that's it.

[00:03:18] Hard to segue from this, but let's try.

[00:03:21] We want to talk about Gajini this episode, right?

[00:03:24] Yeah.

[00:03:25] A lot of people have it.

[00:03:26] Oh, first of all, actually, I want to read a message.

[00:03:28] This is a good better segue.

[00:03:31] Actually, funnily enough, last week we were telling about this episode

[00:03:34] we did on Patreon, but Amrita was so happy to make fun of Sujoy

[00:03:38] that we actually never told people what the episode was.

[00:03:42] So let me just find the.

[00:03:45] That's not typical.

[00:03:51] Making fun of Sujoy comes first.

[00:03:53] Yeah, exactly.

[00:03:55] So if you're a patron, you'll be getting new content this week

[00:04:00] or the next week.

[00:04:02] But you also get early releases.

[00:04:04] And this week, we last week, we recorded an episode on Amita Bachchan,

[00:04:08] a thing that we have been playing with and a lot of times,

[00:04:12] Patreon is also kind of like our experimental lab.

[00:04:15] We try something out and if it works, if it hits, we might,

[00:04:18] you know, repurpose it in a different way.

[00:04:21] So we did an episode on Behmisal and we did one on Behmisal

[00:04:26] and Soha, Amita's classic movies.

[00:04:29] And this is a, we got a lot of emails from our listeners,

[00:04:32] positive ones.

[00:04:33] And this is what I wanted to read from Nikka.

[00:04:36] I'm writing this after listening to the Bachchan nostalgia episode

[00:04:40] and I just wanted to see, please give us more of these

[00:04:44] if it makes commercial sense as I agree completely with Asim on this.

[00:04:48] I certainly enjoyed it a lot because there were elements in it

[00:04:53] that felt new to me and also because it was clear that you guys

[00:04:57] are passionate about those movies and his work, which makes

[00:05:01] listening to you talk about it an enriching experience.

[00:05:04] Thanks again for continuing to create this wonderful podcast

[00:05:07] and for all the work you do to make it what it is love Nikka.

[00:05:12] So that was a very nice positive email from Patreon.

[00:05:16] And if you were a patron, you could have listened to that episode.

[00:05:19] So sign up for a dollar.

[00:05:22] Yeah.

[00:05:24] Please do.

[00:05:26] Yeah.

[00:05:26] Should we do more?

[00:05:27] Like, I don't know if people love the nostalgia of it or people

[00:05:31] love the Amita of it.

[00:05:32] I still can't figure that part out.

[00:05:34] What do you guys think?

[00:05:35] I was actually thinking that we could do like more nostalgia

[00:05:39] things, you know, because it's just not, it's not just Amita,

[00:05:42] but I mean, we all have our favorite Manon Desai movies.

[00:05:47] We all have our favorite Mithunda movies.

[00:05:52] We all have like, you know, like so many like Shri Devi

[00:05:54] movies that we have like so many different things that we could

[00:05:57] talk about is just that we don't usually do that on the main

[00:06:03] podcast because it doesn't really make sense for the kind of

[00:06:05] listenership that we usually attract.

[00:06:09] But I'm sure there are like people out there who either

[00:06:13] have not watched or heard of or don't really appreciate

[00:06:19] that kind of movie, but might get an introduction to it through

[00:06:24] us, you know?

[00:06:26] I think like we all three of us share like that decade or two

[00:06:33] decades of Bollywood growing up.

[00:06:35] Like it was because we grew up in the 80s and the 90s where

[00:06:41] that that's where our formative years of pop culture

[00:06:43] Bollywood entertainment comes from.

[00:06:45] But we were also exposed through our parents to the 70s

[00:06:48] and the 80s and even 60s movies.

[00:06:50] And then we also then grew up to watch like the 2000s Bollywood.

[00:06:54] So there's a whole lot of nostalgia over the decades that

[00:06:57] we have sort of built in our banks and we did not consciously

[00:07:01] build them.

[00:07:02] We are just we know all of these because we that was a

[00:07:05] part of our growing up, right?

[00:07:07] So I think a lot of people do share that and I think

[00:07:10] us discussing that from our three perspective of growing

[00:07:13] up in different parts of the world and all of that would

[00:07:16] be very, very interesting.

[00:07:18] I think we were also the last video for said generation.

[00:07:22] Right?

[00:07:23] Yeah.

[00:07:24] The last generation of people that were just like getting

[00:07:27] videos from the library and then just watching like random

[00:07:32] things like what what does the library have this week?

[00:07:34] Like that's what we watch, you know?

[00:07:37] So did you guys watch that Korean show Netflix,

[00:07:40] physical hundred?

[00:07:41] I haven't no.

[00:07:42] It's like this muscle steroid kind of like survival

[00:07:45] show and I was thinking there should be a show like that

[00:07:48] where we just send 100 kids and they have like old technology

[00:07:52] that they need to figure out like, you know, the first

[00:07:54] has to set a VCR to for a recording at 9 o'clock like

[00:08:00] use a dial to send the facts.

[00:08:03] See how many survived the end of it and I'm thinking

[00:08:06] that because I saw this tick tock the other day and

[00:08:09] it was like this guy who is like a Bollywood content

[00:08:11] creator.

[00:08:12] I don't have the name unfortunately and he said like

[00:08:14] you know there was something just so magical about Bollywood

[00:08:18] a d r and I was like, oh, this is interesting talk world.

[00:08:21] Let me listen.

[00:08:22] I said I just love classic a d r.

[00:08:24] You know, I grew up on these old school movies of Akshay

[00:08:27] Kumar.

[00:08:27] I was like what?

[00:08:28] Akshay Kumar.

[00:08:31] I was like so what Sujoy is basically saying is just we're

[00:08:34] old basically that's.

[00:08:37] We have to admit that right?

[00:08:40] We haven't built up nostalgia.

[00:08:42] We're just old.

[00:08:43] Yeah, it's like that.

[00:08:45] It's like that stupid Twitter discourse that happened a few

[00:08:48] weeks ago when Austin Butler had one of those letterbox

[00:08:52] interviews and they were asking him, you know, like name your

[00:08:55] letterbox just for people who are not permanently online

[00:08:58] letterbox does these videos where they go up to people

[00:09:02] like celebrities and they say like name your four favorite

[00:09:05] movies and it's become a bit of a contentious thing

[00:09:09] because a lot of people are really quick to call the

[00:09:12] celebrities pretentious because you know, they're not like

[00:09:15] saying like top gun and mission impossible.

[00:09:18] So they ran up to poor Austin Butler who's one of the movies

[00:09:22] that he chose was the good, the bad and the ugly which is

[00:09:25] like, you know, starring Clint Eastwood and literally

[00:09:29] everybody on Twitter was just like, oh my God, like who

[00:09:32] does he think he is?

[00:09:35] Why don't these celebrities ever talk about movies that

[00:09:37] they've watched and I'm just like what do you mean?

[00:09:41] Like that movie was like and maybe it's because like I grew

[00:09:44] up with a brother who was obsessed with Clint Eastwood as a

[00:09:47] child, but I like these are not like I guess like, you know,

[00:09:51] it's cable and video cassettes.

[00:09:53] Like I said, like, you know, we were raised by cable

[00:09:55] and video cassettes.

[00:09:57] So we just watched a lot of stuff that we maybe would

[00:10:00] not have automatically sat down or chosen to watch

[00:10:04] like if you're on Netflix and you're just sort of

[00:10:06] flipping through.

[00:10:07] Maybe there are things that you wouldn't necessarily want

[00:10:10] to watch, but back in the day you didn't really have

[00:10:13] an option.

[00:10:14] You know, it was like you had like one TV and you watch

[00:10:18] what your mom wanted to watch or your dad wanted to watch

[00:10:21] or like, you know, whatever the local video cassette

[00:10:25] walla wanted you to watch.

[00:10:27] So there was like an entire hierarchy of people who

[00:10:31] decided what kind of entertainment was coming your

[00:10:34] way and you came at the very.

[00:10:36] You.

[00:10:39] So yeah, I think it's a good idea, but I think for now

[00:10:43] we just want to keep it on Patreon and see what the

[00:10:46] response is like and then maybe we can figure out a way

[00:10:50] to bring it to our general listenership if they are

[00:10:53] interested.

[00:10:54] So yeah, I think I want to ask I'm going to ask this

[00:10:56] to the audience, but we're going to listen more to

[00:10:58] Patreon.

[00:10:58] What they say is that so join Patreon, but it's good.

[00:11:02] I'm wondering should we do an Amitabh series or

[00:11:04] should we do a nostalgia series where we can talk

[00:11:06] even about Anil Kapoor movies and stuff like that and

[00:11:08] make that into a series or we do just Amitabh.

[00:11:11] So I kind of wonder how what the format would be

[00:11:14] because I'm a product guy, you know, I'm always

[00:11:16] thinking what would work as a concept.

[00:11:18] So yeah, that would be cool because I got a lot

[00:11:23] of like Anil Kapoor movies that I want to

[00:11:25] revisit.

[00:11:27] Listen, sorry, go ahead.

[00:11:30] I was going to say we're doing a Raju Bangea

[00:11:32] gentlemen next episode and I was watching it with

[00:11:36] my daughter and you know, we were we were watching

[00:11:40] it and it's not a you know, it's not like a rocky

[00:11:44] on Rani Prem Kahanika in a movie, right?

[00:11:46] It's very like basic and she skipped it after

[00:11:50] Laveria.

[00:11:50] She was I'm out.

[00:11:51] Papa, I'm going to do my room and I was like

[00:11:53] Aaj kalki panche, you know, we would have sat

[00:11:56] through that whole thing, you know, but she

[00:11:58] was like Laveria.

[00:11:59] No, this is not nice song about.

[00:12:05] But talking of Anil Kapoor, I found out like an

[00:12:09] amazing factoid which is the perfect segue to

[00:12:14] our main review this episode, which is Gajni

[00:12:17] and dates back to when Anil Kapoor was making

[00:12:22] a splash in Hollywood and one of the people

[00:12:26] that he was cozing up to was one Mr.

[00:12:28] Christopher Nolan, who made a movie called Memento

[00:12:34] and apparently he went up to Anil and was just like,

[00:12:37] Hey, so I hear they remade one of my movies and

[00:12:41] Anil Kapoor was like, yes, it's called Gajni

[00:12:44] and it's a huge hit in India.

[00:12:47] And Nolan was like, yeah, well, they didn't pay

[00:12:50] me for any of that.

[00:12:52] And he was like, well, you know, like they just

[00:12:56] stole my idea and just remade my movie and they

[00:12:59] didn't pay me any kind of like anything.

[00:13:03] So then Anil came back to India called up

[00:13:06] Ahmed and was like, did you know that Christopher

[00:13:09] Nolan is very upset?

[00:13:12] And see, I don't want particularly to be invited

[00:13:16] to say Manat for a party.

[00:13:18] I don't want to be like part of like a Bollywood

[00:13:23] wedding or like meet up, have these parties.

[00:13:25] I do.

[00:13:27] I do not.

[00:13:28] What I want is to be a fly on the wall when this

[00:13:32] conversation goes down between like Anil Kapoor

[00:13:35] and Ahmed Kapoor.

[00:13:39] I'm like, did you know?

[00:13:40] And then I just want to know what Amir like, how

[00:13:44] did Amir respond?

[00:13:46] No, but the funny part is the conversation can now

[00:13:49] keep going because Nolan can say and then I heard

[00:13:52] you also ripped off the prestige and made it room

[00:13:54] three.

[00:13:55] Like you double down instead of apologizing.

[00:14:01] What on this on this on the same stage at some

[00:14:04] on like, I don't know, like a few years ago or

[00:14:06] something like Amir and or Nolan or like something.

[00:14:12] I don't know that happened.

[00:14:15] And that it was like and I think like Nolan brought

[00:14:17] it up even there.

[00:14:20] Hey, remember that time he just like stole my idea.

[00:14:23] But these are the things that I want to experience

[00:14:27] for this very sad that I never got to.

[00:14:31] I have a question.

[00:14:32] Have you guys seen the Tamil movie on which this

[00:14:37] is made?

[00:14:37] Yeah, I have.

[00:14:38] Yeah.

[00:14:38] Yeah.

[00:14:39] Okay.

[00:14:39] I haven't.

[00:14:41] Hmm.

[00:14:42] But I think I saw it like around the time that it

[00:14:44] came out, which is a long time ago.

[00:14:48] 2005, 2005, the original Gajini came out and then

[00:14:53] 2008 Gajini was remade with the same director.

[00:14:58] Murupad.

[00:15:01] And I mean, if the people don't know this is a

[00:15:03] story of a short term memory loss patient goes on

[00:15:06] a killing spree in order to avenge the death

[00:15:08] of his lady love.

[00:15:10] Um, I mean this movie was massive.

[00:15:13] I think I think 2008 is already a funny time because

[00:15:16] there's a lot of listeners that might have not

[00:15:18] experienced the hype or they were too small when

[00:15:21] this movie released, right?

[00:15:22] They were already like on the cusp of it being

[00:15:25] that far.

[00:15:27] Um, so I just wanted to start with the hype of

[00:15:30] this movie first before because this was a

[00:15:33] phenomenon that we had almost never seen like

[00:15:37] just before the marketing happened.

[00:15:39] Remember like Amir Khan was giving everybody haircuts?

[00:15:42] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:15:44] Like, yeah, he was like there was like a whole bunch

[00:15:48] of kids with like he was shaving off their head

[00:15:50] and putting the line in like the scar and like

[00:15:54] everybody was like he had whole armies of fans

[00:15:56] that had cut that hair and they were like coming

[00:15:59] to the cinema, you know, like like Amir Khan.

[00:16:03] It was like a massive, massive marketing.

[00:16:05] That was like, you know, a scale to measure the

[00:16:08] hype behind a movie because you had the Bachchan

[00:16:10] hair from the back in the day or the Rajesh Khanna

[00:16:14] hair and then you have the Terinaam hair, right?

[00:16:16] And then Terinaam hair, yeah.

[00:16:17] And then you had Gajini hair on the lack of it.

[00:16:22] And I mean this is also a movie that set

[00:16:25] the records on at the box office.

[00:16:27] Like I think when what we think of like what

[00:16:31] 100 crore clubs is this was the first movie that really

[00:16:35] set those records and we all people got obsessed

[00:16:38] with box office more than any other movie.

[00:16:42] And I think we still like in a way like, you know,

[00:16:45] when they say Jaws is the reason we have blockbuster

[00:16:48] movies summer blockbuster.

[00:16:50] Yeah.

[00:16:51] Gajini is the reason we have Samosa trade critics.

[00:16:55] The equivalent of it.

[00:16:57] Paranadash.

[00:16:58] Oh, Zittu Gajini.

[00:17:02] Yeah.

[00:17:03] So, so there was a haircut.

[00:17:06] There was a box office receipts and the big thing is

[00:17:10] also is the body transformation, which there's still

[00:17:15] a YouTube video of Amir Khan's body transformation.

[00:17:19] I think he did it for Bollywood Angama back

[00:17:21] in the day when it used to be good when, you know,

[00:17:23] our man with the topi was there.

[00:17:24] What's his name again?

[00:17:25] Faridun was there.

[00:17:26] You know, when things were good at Bollywood Angama and

[00:17:30] it is an amazing video like the body transformation

[00:17:34] Amir went through to get this body at that time was amazing.

[00:17:39] But now you look at it and it's like basically a Varun

[00:17:42] Dhawan body like it's not that.

[00:17:45] You know what I mean?

[00:17:46] What did you guys think about it like looking back

[00:17:48] at the body?

[00:17:51] I mean, it's still Amir Khan.

[00:17:54] It's still funny when he's like so buffed and then

[00:17:58] he starts running and I'm like, he's only covering

[00:18:01] like a hundred meters in short legs.

[00:18:06] I'm sorry.

[00:18:07] I'm sorry.

[00:18:08] It's really hilarious.

[00:18:10] I can't I stole your joke.

[00:18:13] Bear well.

[00:18:17] You know, I was thinking the whole time.

[00:18:19] Do you remember like that guy Sahil Rez who used

[00:18:22] to have the visual idiot?

[00:18:24] Yeah.

[00:18:25] The visual idiot.

[00:18:28] If those of you who are too young to have followed

[00:18:31] that particular series, he used to do like a cartoon movie

[00:18:36] reviews basically like that's what it was and they were

[00:18:39] hilarious but I just remember.

[00:18:43] Like I can't remember if he was like he had done one

[00:18:47] for Gajni or not but there's a way that he used to draw

[00:18:52] Salman.

[00:18:55] Stick figure but with added balls on it.

[00:18:57] It says the biceps indicated Salman and I just like that is

[00:19:03] exactly what Amir looks like but in like flesh and blood.

[00:19:09] It was just like Amir's tiny head on top of like his little

[00:19:15] like a flotation devices that he's calling muscles.

[00:19:19] It's just the most incredibly disproportionate body ever.

[00:19:25] It's not to take away from all the hard work he and steroids

[00:19:28] that he took for this.

[00:19:29] I mean yes.

[00:19:31] The number like he must have yeah it again like I don't know

[00:19:36] how these men like how do they survive doing that to their

[00:19:41] bodies you know like because you know like Amir is hitting

[00:19:45] the gym as a lifestyle he's definitely doing the body

[00:19:49] transformation thing and I can't I can imagine the kind of the

[00:19:56] kind of price that he's paying for it you know as a present

[00:19:59] day Amir.

[00:20:01] And this is the first of the third when he was still young

[00:20:03] you know he's done it again for Dungal.

[00:20:05] He's done it again for Dhoom and he was much much older

[00:20:08] when those and honestly he's still super fit like he's

[00:20:12] like after this all of the hands became very fit like Shahrukh

[00:20:16] once he did Om Shanti Om he's had that six packs since then

[00:20:20] Amir has been you know built since then so and at this stage

[00:20:24] he was quite younger and funny enough I feel his body here

[00:20:28] doesn't look as good as it did in Dungal and Dhoom 3 you

[00:20:31] know so it was kind of the first but it was it was a

[00:20:35] massive thing to the point where you know they had a

[00:20:37] great part of the great marketing was also they had one

[00:20:41] of the best Das Kadam episodes with Salman if you guys remember

[00:20:46] where they came on the on the cycle on Dhoom Astane and all

[00:20:51] that kind of thing.

[00:20:53] Yeah, it's really still a good episode it's available on

[00:20:55] YouTube people can watch it and it like at that point

[00:21:01] Salman they were asking Salman about where's your body

[00:21:04] is like Salman was like dude I have this body all the

[00:21:07] time Shahrukh had it for one movie or Salman Amir had

[00:21:10] it for one movie so it's quite funny that you know his body

[00:21:14] was so good that people are asking Salman question was like

[00:21:17] how dare you another thing that this movie started and

[00:21:24] we're still not into the movie is also the South

[00:21:27] ification wave of Bollywood you know that started and

[00:21:33] only recently ended I would say like it like it took

[00:21:36] like almost 15 years of our lives having to watch Bollywood

[00:21:40] remake South movies right and I think it was funny because

[00:21:46] when it started and they were all doing it you know like

[00:21:49] wanted and they're in arm and this and you know and the

[00:21:54] Southification was almost like a like saving of the box

[00:21:59] office at that time it was like you know it was like trickle

[00:22:02] down economics you know when we thought we would all get

[00:22:05] rich out of it but it was a farce we just got scammed

[00:22:09] so and it was also just funny I was thinking about it like how

[00:22:13] it works in like a pyramid level like you know like a trend in

[00:22:17] Bollywood it's like first you get the top level with the

[00:22:20] Khans you go down you have the Akshay and Ajay Devgans then

[00:22:23] you have the Rithics and Shahrukhs Shahids then you

[00:22:27] have the Arjun Kapoor's and then Karthik Aryan kills the

[00:22:29] genre entirely.

[00:22:34] With Shahzada we all became fakir.

[00:22:37] We got scammed you know we were holding on for too long and

[00:22:41] it was worthless you know.

[00:22:43] What do you guys it's done right like the Southification is

[00:22:46] kind of done what do you feel looking back now?

[00:22:49] I don't think I think with Pan India that whole thing is

[00:22:53] is kind of moot at this point like nobody's going to remake

[00:22:59] a movie like that I don't know unless like a Salman

[00:23:04] or Shahrukh or Amir does it.

[00:23:06] There seems to be.

[00:23:08] The shot for shot remake I think I think Shahzada pretty much

[00:23:13] like really brought it home that that's not going to work

[00:23:16] anymore.

[00:23:18] Especially because the South Indian stars are now pretty big

[00:23:22] stars like on their own right like Alua Arjun is a way

[00:23:25] bigger star than Karthik Aryan like I'm sorry like there's

[00:23:29] just no way that you can argue that that's not true.

[00:23:35] So like you know like a Mahesh Babu film or an Alua Arjun

[00:23:38] film a Yash film all of these are releasing in dubbed Hindi

[00:23:46] simultaneously simultaneously and we might have our opinions

[00:23:51] like the three of us might have our opinions about the dubbed

[00:23:54] versions and like we might not like it.

[00:23:57] We might be well not to joy but like Sim and I are

[00:24:01] subtitles people.

[00:24:07] So joy is like me I just you know like I don't feel the need

[00:24:13] to give more effort to movies like those like I'm okay with

[00:24:17] just passively consuming it when it comes to like a Mahesh

[00:24:20] Babu or a Yash movie.

[00:24:22] Yeah, you know what I mean but I mean I used to watch

[00:24:25] my age Babu film without subtitles and without dubs

[00:24:28] you know like and I don't even speak up they'll go like that

[00:24:31] but these are like movies that are I mean the kind of movies

[00:24:36] that you know the South Indian action Masala movie is generally

[00:24:41] meant to appeal to the largest possible audience.

[00:24:46] So it's not like so it's like if you understand the jokes

[00:24:49] and the cultural nuances then that's like so maybe so how

[00:24:53] about it is not the point of the film however you know

[00:24:57] the point of the film is that you need to be able to understand

[00:24:59] how this plot is going to move you need to understand the

[00:25:03] beats of the story is very classical storytelling.

[00:25:08] And it makes sense to me that like you know like that's what

[00:25:13] Bollywood tries to do as well but of late I mean like

[00:25:19] you know with the with the whole like South South

[00:25:21] vacation as we were talking about but that's not Bollywood

[00:25:26] strength though like the you know like the iconic Bollywood

[00:25:32] movies whether we're talking about Amarak by Anthony or

[00:25:35] we're talking about DDLJ or we're talking about I don't

[00:25:41] know like anything like Dungal for example like these are

[00:25:44] all movies that require you to do a bit more like invest

[00:25:50] a bit more in the movie than just sort of passively

[00:25:54] consume it you know and it's a we've just I mean Bollywood

[00:26:00] just spent like a hundred years training its audience to

[00:26:04] respond to a certain kind of cinema and then I think they

[00:26:07] thought that they could just make that audience flip and

[00:26:12] accept the other kind and it just I don't think it's

[00:26:15] worked out that well for them to be honest.

[00:26:19] And it's not I mean it's not done done there are still

[00:26:22] movies that are coming I know that Akshay Kumar has a remake

[00:26:25] of that flight movie with Surya the airline movie that's

[00:26:30] coming out.

[00:26:32] Sanya is doing a great Indian kitchen.

[00:26:39] And so there are a few I know Varun Dhawan is also making

[00:26:41] a remake so it's not done done but I just don't think

[00:26:45] it has that guarantee success to box office that it did when

[00:26:52] Gajni in that era was happening right.

[00:26:57] This is also the last movie of Jiya Khan and yeah that it

[00:27:04] was and she's so good in this she is so good in this lovely

[00:27:09] that song she's like she's fire in that song she's like

[00:27:14] she's so good like she deserves so much better.

[00:27:18] She really had that Britney Spears era of dancing and look down

[00:27:24] at that time and she was so good and I was so is one of the

[00:27:29] things that annoys me so much Gajni is how they edited that

[00:27:32] song down because it's literally like 45 seconds that we get

[00:27:36] to see her on screen but it looks amazing.

[00:27:38] I wish they released the whole three minutes of the song

[00:27:41] like as a clip but it never really happened.

[00:27:45] But yeah, she's she's really really good in this and it just

[00:27:50] fills you with so much sadness seeing her on screen and what

[00:27:53] happened to her and the chances she didn't get.

[00:27:57] Yeah, so do you think of Jiya Khan in this movie?

[00:28:00] She was alright.

[00:28:03] You didn't feel what you were feeling.

[00:28:05] She was definitely alright.

[00:28:09] It was definitely very very sad what happened in her real life

[00:28:12] right but in this movie she is alright like I thought like

[00:28:18] Asan's song was way better.

[00:28:20] Ava too was like but I think both songs had that very MTV

[00:28:24] quality about it and how it is shot.

[00:28:26] It's very of that era you know because like after that

[00:28:32] it became the whole T-Series you know, operational

[00:28:40] you know just churning out one video after another where

[00:28:42] every video looks like a clone of each other but this one had

[00:28:46] that MTV spunk like each like there is a particular aesthetic

[00:28:52] and I think I prefer the Asan song but both of them are

[00:28:57] like really good.

[00:28:59] You hurt this person.

[00:29:03] I will say though like you know I remembered Asan's character

[00:29:10] being like really annoying in this film but I had forgotten

[00:29:15] that Jiya's character is equally annoying like the women

[00:29:21] in this film like my God like they're just like they're

[00:29:25] terrible they're just absolutely fucking terrible and

[00:29:27] charmers like yeah.

[00:29:29] I think like the movie is telling women be careful of being

[00:29:32] too nice.

[00:29:33] This is what happens to you if you're being too nice you know

[00:29:36] and like oh my God she's like written by I don't know

[00:29:42] what sort of worldview does Murgados have to have written

[00:29:46] Asan's character like this like yeah let's talk about it.

[00:29:51] Yeah, so this Gajini is basically not a it's a remake

[00:29:57] of an adaptation.

[00:29:58] So this is something that doesn't happen a lot of times

[00:30:01] but that's what it is the original memento by Christopher

[00:30:04] Nolan is like a meticulously crafted you know philosophical

[00:30:09] piece how our memories lie to us how the there is a futility

[00:30:14] in revenge you know you know our memories lying to us do

[00:30:18] even know what is true what is not true.

[00:30:21] Gajini makes no sense compared to that straight up revenge

[00:30:27] drama like because when you think about it for two minutes

[00:30:33] this is like apparently the richest man in India like his

[00:30:38] management team is acting like they're the FBI you like

[00:30:41] that's how they act there is no way a rich man of those

[00:30:46] resources would not be just go be able to go after some

[00:30:49] small time gangster like Gajini is not like some big

[00:30:55] Don he's just like a little you know street hustler you

[00:30:59] know he's not that high up of a level but I think is just

[00:31:03] the art of making a movie like this and I mean I'm gonna

[00:31:09] compare like two names that do not need if you but it's

[00:31:13] the genre of filmmaking that even Rajah Maudhya's right

[00:31:17] like the emotion and conviction of the movie making

[00:31:19] is so strong that you just completely get caught up

[00:31:23] with what's happening and you forget that none of this makes

[00:31:26] any sense like none of it like you know who is a star tattoo

[00:31:31] artist like how did he get those tattoos on the back you

[00:31:34] know like how is he reading like so much doesn't also like

[00:31:39] why does the other hand's character like inform on him

[00:31:44] to Gajini like what is that like that makes no sense like

[00:31:47] when you think about it because like why wouldn't

[00:31:49] she go to the police she just goes to like Gajini and

[00:31:52] like oh like you know like he's gonna come after you like

[00:31:56] it makes no sense. Yeah and Gajini does not has a reliable

[00:32:00] face like no 20 year old girl would be going to uncle like

[00:32:04] help me please you know like it doesn't it doesn't make any

[00:32:07] sense you know my biggest big big question is this is a

[00:32:13] industrialist who wears really you know really really cropped

[00:32:19] t-shirts really tight shirts and and that's the first part

[00:32:25] of the story and then he has his memory lost right and then

[00:32:29] like he's now basically Dory so like during that transition

[00:32:35] we see him like bodybuilding in his apartment but then

[00:32:38] like where does he learn the combat skills like he is a

[00:32:42] one man army that is never shown like he did he have

[00:32:46] old boy type of TV where he's like just punching walls and

[00:32:51] I don't know that was never shown so I don't know how he can

[00:32:53] really take down a whole gang and why doesn't he hire

[00:32:57] people to take down the gang on his behalf. Yeah like all

[00:33:00] of those mechanics make absolutely no sense you know but

[00:33:03] I think it just you get caught up in the movie making

[00:33:06] of it that you just don't you know if you don't take

[00:33:08] a minute and I think that's smart like because the movie

[00:33:12] is not boring yeah take that minute to say oh actually

[00:33:15] this makes no sense right but because the filmmaking is

[00:33:19] so propulsive and the emotions are so high you just get

[00:33:22] caught up and I think it's for me have had you had you

[00:33:27] rewatched this movie since when it came out. Yeah to be

[00:33:30] honest I had first watched it on a very pirated DVD

[00:33:35] because this came out like the year I went to the UK

[00:33:38] and it was like I didn't have much money to go to

[00:33:40] the cinemas and yeah I was studying also and I had

[00:33:45] watched it on a camera back in the day so I don't have

[00:33:48] necessarily like really good memories about watching

[00:33:51] Gajini in the first place so it was nice to watch it on a

[00:33:54] good print now but like it has aged definitely like it

[00:33:59] does feel like a very late 2000s kind of a movie

[00:34:02] especially with the action scenes which was the kind

[00:34:05] of highlight when it came out right. It was such a

[00:34:07] great action movie that's not been done in Bollywood

[00:34:10] it's quite violent and the violence is quite brutal

[00:34:13] but it's kind of tame now but anyway. Yeah. What about you Amrita?

[00:34:17] How did it feel revisiting it? It was pretty much the same

[00:34:22] as I remembered it like to be honest like it wasn't

[00:34:27] like there wasn't anything about the filmmaking that

[00:34:30] made me go like oh shit like you know like this is

[00:34:32] how they innovated or like this is how like things

[00:34:36] changed or this was revolutionary like those none of that

[00:34:41] is a very competently made action movie.

[00:34:44] What I did find interesting was that in a lot of the

[00:34:48] South Indian movies that came after it especially after

[00:34:52] the whole you know 300 style of action scenes were shot

[00:34:57] there's no speed ramping like there is no slow motion

[00:35:00] and then again the jerky editing comes the editing

[00:35:04] and the action scenes are really throw you in the

[00:35:06] middle of the action so you can see what's happening

[00:35:09] so that's good.

[00:35:12] I also have not rewatched this movie a lot of times I did

[00:35:15] remember really loving it and actually watching it now for me

[00:35:19] this is still a 10 on 10 movie I really absolutely love it

[00:35:22] like everything I like about Bollywood movies this has

[00:35:25] I enjoyed it so much and I was totally caught up with

[00:35:29] all of the things that this movie is serving me

[00:35:32] and I'll even go further I just enjoy this movie more

[00:35:34] than my mental like I do like I understand like there's

[00:35:38] an intellectual brain that I appreciate momentum for what

[00:35:41] it is but I just like this movie more you know it hits

[00:35:45] my gut much better and just because the love story is

[00:35:50] so sweet like though and I think a lot of it is basically

[00:35:54] us in right like and I understand what you're

[00:35:56] saying Sujoy she's really written as a manic pixie

[00:36:00] dream girl and I think at that time that was the template

[00:36:03] of quirky girl just doing her living in her living her

[00:36:06] life and you know somebody falling in love like she does

[00:36:10] absurd things you know like but they're just they just look

[00:36:14] sweet you know like when she's helping the kids out and take

[00:36:17] her you know like what a unique situation you have to be

[00:36:20] in that these kids have a gate and they're also like crippled

[00:36:24] and you can also like you know take them to the museum

[00:36:27] one after the other and they had done no planning but

[00:36:31] yeah and armor sees that he falls in love and she's

[00:36:34] very talkative and she lives in her own world and she has

[00:36:37] no you know understanding of what she's saying to who

[00:36:42] and it's also just that pre cell phone era pre celebrity era

[00:36:45] slightly you know so it all kind of works in gels in that

[00:36:50] in that world and I don't think it's written as a it's

[00:36:54] clearly written by a man that role right but as a man

[00:36:58] she also really is appealing. She's really like she's

[00:37:02] very sweet she's very like loving she's very you know and I

[00:37:06] saw like the fact that she when armor is like confessing that

[00:37:09] he loves her she kind of takes a moment to think about it

[00:37:12] like you know if should I I thought that was kind of cool

[00:37:16] to I really really liked us in and I think I think did we do

[00:37:22] ready with her last time when we reviewed it I don't know

[00:37:25] what which movie we reviewed over last time and I just

[00:37:29] thought it's it's a shame that her career got short cut short

[00:37:33] because she was one of those actresses that could really

[00:37:36] stand up to the male actors like the Akshays and the salman

[00:37:41] and the arm is and there's not a lot of women after this

[00:37:46] era that could because they really swerve to younger

[00:37:49] actresses after this and they stopped really working with

[00:37:53] the jews and the maudras and stuff like that and asin

[00:37:56] was one of those that could like match them at those at that

[00:37:59] level and I thought she was she was really really great in

[00:38:03] this in this movie.

[00:38:06] What do you think of us in?

[00:38:09] I mean you're not a fan right? I remember last time you're

[00:38:13] not a fan. I'm not a fan. I don't know there's just

[00:38:18] this is something about her that like I just don't connect

[00:38:23] with.

[00:38:24] You think she's an anti-vaxxer?

[00:38:30] I have no idea but she's just like I do recognize the fact

[00:38:36] that she did a good job in this movie like you know the chi

[00:38:40] that scene where she's telling Amir that he will he has the

[00:38:44] chance to be on a billboard on the way to the airport in

[00:38:48] a skutchass like it is like genuinely one of the funniest

[00:38:52] scenes that I've seen where you know she's like and she knows

[00:38:56] how to be the straight man you know like that's a rare talent

[00:39:00] for a lot of people.

[00:39:03] But I don't know like for a leading lady I need to be like

[00:39:12] attracted as well as like empathetic and like I need to

[00:39:17] be charmed and there's like so many things that go into

[00:39:20] falling in love with the leading lady and for me Asin doesn't

[00:39:24] really check those boxes. She's very pretty. She's very good at

[00:39:29] her job but that's about it as far as I can say it.

[00:39:33] I would love and I'm saying it was a Malayalee like you know

[00:39:36] like a fellow fellow Malayalee I 100% want to feel like you

[00:39:41] know oh my God she's like the best thing ever but I just

[00:39:45] don't think she is.

[00:39:47] Yeah.

[00:39:48] Yeah I remember you not liking her. I don't understand why.

[00:39:55] Whatever you suggest.

[00:39:56] The feeling is mutual. Yeah, I'm like she's pretty on screen.

[00:40:01] She's really great but yeah I don't I don't hyper.

[00:40:05] Feels me already.

[00:40:06] No, feels me.

[00:40:08] Yeah.

[00:40:10] Like I think Anushka would do a much better.

[00:40:14] Oh yeah.

[00:40:15] You know in this role so you know where my feelings are.

[00:40:20] Of course.

[00:40:21] Sujoy just very casually throwing out like baiting for Asim

[00:40:26] is like really you like Asin how about Anushka then?

[00:40:30] And Asin like immediately falls and it's like oh yeah

[00:40:34] of course.

[00:40:35] Guys I was just doing the washing up and I was thinking

[00:40:37] of Anushka's movies.

[00:40:39] Doing the washing up.

[00:40:41] I was like yeah what is she coming back like I haven't seen

[00:40:44] her on screen it's just like you know cleaning

[00:40:47] Barton's while doing that.

[00:40:52] I did find it funny that she had this whole also they

[00:40:54] not only do they rip off memento but they also rip

[00:40:57] off Amelie in this movie.

[00:40:59] Yes.

[00:41:00] She's also completely forgotten where she has this

[00:41:02] whole sequence where she's like guiding a blind man

[00:41:06] and then confusing him with all the things he cannot see.

[00:41:09] So it's like why are you doing this but it seemed

[00:41:12] charming back in the day but like also in this movie

[00:41:15] it feels very forced because it doesn't seem like

[00:41:18] anything real or something that would happen in India.

[00:41:22] And then it's funny because Amir is just you know

[00:41:25] a fly in the wall I spectating and falling in love

[00:41:28] with her because oh she's a problem solver

[00:41:31] but also like she's such a kind hearted person

[00:41:34] and it's like okay I get it.

[00:41:37] But that's also because Amir's company does not have

[00:41:40] a good HR policy right there's not a lot of diversity

[00:41:43] he's surrounded by dudes all the time he's showing

[00:41:46] off his biceps as much as he can and he's just

[00:41:48] getting no love from them you know so obviously

[00:41:50] the first female he comes across he's going to

[00:41:53] just like madly fall in love right.

[00:41:56] I had completely forgotten that this movie had a

[00:41:59] cop and a really bad one.

[00:42:02] Oh my god yeah.

[00:42:04] Yeah he is it's like yeah it's like the worst

[00:42:10] cop I've ever seen in my life and then Amir just

[00:42:13] kicks his ass and then puts him in a locker

[00:42:16] that's way too high for him to put anybody in that

[00:42:19] locker.

[00:42:21] She opens the locker like yay hi and the guy

[00:42:24] falls out and is like how did Amir put him there

[00:42:27] like it's impossible.

[00:42:30] Hydraulics.

[00:42:32] A very tall ladder Asim that's how.

[00:42:36] And then the guy just dies in a bus accident

[00:42:39] like he's dead because of him.

[00:42:42] Have you seen that game of that GIF of Rachel

[00:42:46] McAdams in Game Show?

[00:42:50] Which movie is that again?

[00:42:52] Yeah the Game Show.

[00:42:55] Oh no that was literally the guy.

[00:42:59] Oh no he died.

[00:43:07] Yeah so what did you think of like the villain

[00:43:11] and the revenge story and because the funny

[00:43:14] part is in the way the movie is structured is

[00:43:16] like in the memento the big reveal is who is

[00:43:19] John G right like who is the villain.

[00:43:22] Here the villain reveal he's out in the open

[00:43:25] everybody knows him college students can just

[00:43:28] call him so that's not the reveal the reveal

[00:43:31] is how Amir's character became what he

[00:43:35] became right and I think it's quite

[00:43:38] smartly done because the flashback happens

[00:43:41] in like two or three times so you're

[00:43:44] kind of reading these guys.

[00:43:46] Yeah the diary part like because the diary

[00:43:49] ends on 31st of December and then you go

[00:43:52] to the next part of the flashback as you know

[00:43:54] somebody else picks up to read it you know

[00:43:56] at a later point and also the mystery

[00:44:00] behind the buildup is basically because

[00:44:03] his memory gets wiped out every morning

[00:44:06] he wakes up he has to remember and

[00:44:09] then every morning he has this hope that

[00:44:12] it's that 51st date kind of situation

[00:44:15] where he is like every day or every 10 minutes

[00:44:18] he has to realize that he has to take this revenge

[00:44:21] and what his existence means and so from

[00:44:24] that to going to that level of remembering

[00:44:28] that he has to revenge upon this particular

[00:44:31] man who changed his life forever is quite

[00:44:34] interesting and how he showed.

[00:44:36] Yeah and it gives us a chance to say

[00:44:38] acting you know.

[00:44:40] Oh my god so much acting so much acting

[00:44:43] in front of the mirror yeah.

[00:44:45] And I think the other thing that really

[00:44:47] works really well again I'm comparing it

[00:44:49] to Memento because Memento is almost like

[00:44:51] you don't know who killed his wife

[00:44:54] was it an accident what does he remember

[00:44:56] here the level of brutality of that

[00:44:59] murder is so high I think it's still

[00:45:03] it's one of those like murders in Bollywood

[00:45:06] that is still people use on Twitter a lot

[00:45:09] the gift comes a lot you know is the

[00:45:11] greatest thing in this and that but it's

[00:45:13] genuinely heartbreaking the way it's short

[00:45:15] right like did that work for you Amirita

[00:45:17] or is it like some of that.

[00:45:20] Yeah no that was a really that was one

[00:45:22] one of the best sequences I feel

[00:45:24] in the film and it holds up

[00:45:26] like after all these years you know

[00:45:28] like it's brutal but it's also like

[00:45:30] super sad it comes at like

[00:45:32] the perfect time in the film

[00:45:35] the reactions of both Asin and

[00:45:38] Amir are like really great

[00:45:41] and it really does center

[00:45:44] the film because you up until then

[00:45:47] like you don't like really understand

[00:45:49] the depth of like you know just

[00:45:52] how bad things meant for

[00:45:55] Kalpana and what's

[00:45:58] the nominame Sachin right

[00:46:00] like what was Sachin yeah

[00:46:02] for like Kalpana and Sachin like you know

[00:46:04] like what really happened like Sanjay Singhanya

[00:46:06] is taking the because Sanjay is like

[00:46:08] taking revenge not just for

[00:46:10] himself but he's taking for two people

[00:46:12] he's taking it for both Sachin

[00:46:14] and Kalpana and Sachin also died

[00:46:16] that day you know it's just

[00:46:18] that Sanjay continues to

[00:46:20] survive but

[00:46:22] yeah but like that whole

[00:46:24] that entire little

[00:46:26] family thing that they were

[00:46:28] building the fact that she

[00:46:30] invited him in like to become

[00:46:32] a part of her home

[00:46:35] like when she does the great

[00:46:37] probation then she you know she puts

[00:46:39] both their feet

[00:46:41] that was like really

[00:46:43] lovely little

[00:46:45] little bits and pieces and I'm not

[00:46:47] a huge fan of

[00:46:49] fridging the wife

[00:46:51] to give the lead you know

[00:46:53] some sort of character depth

[00:46:55] but in this movie I feel like they did

[00:46:57] a really good job of it

[00:46:59] yeah also just this

[00:47:01] tragedy that he never got to tell

[00:47:03] her his real identity like

[00:47:05] before she actually got to know him

[00:47:07] and there's just something

[00:47:09] so sad in that and I love

[00:47:11] how like that part is so

[00:47:13] sad and then the ending

[00:47:15] I'm going to the ending of the movie

[00:47:17] completely is that

[00:47:19] how did you

[00:47:21] how did you get me the second

[00:47:23] verse that comes in with the

[00:47:25] female voice it is

[00:47:27] so beautiful as a final

[00:47:29] shot and all of the emotion

[00:47:31] kind of cuts back that these are

[00:47:33] two people now together

[00:47:35] in his memory locked in

[00:47:37] and there's just something so poetic

[00:47:39] of him just sitting alone

[00:47:41] with the memory of her the only

[00:47:43] thing he has is the memory of her

[00:47:45] sitting alone on the bench and it's

[00:47:47] such a bittersweet

[00:47:49] you know moment

[00:47:51] where it does talk about

[00:47:53] you know the futility of

[00:47:55] all of the things he did like okay

[00:47:57] he is at ease he's

[00:47:59] taken his revenge but at the

[00:48:01] end he's just sitting alone on the bench

[00:48:03] with the memory of her you know and

[00:48:05] there's something so sad about that and

[00:48:07] so beautifully sung also

[00:48:09] we need to get into

[00:48:11] Rahman's music here a little bit

[00:48:13] which is a massive part of it right

[00:48:15] amazing

[00:48:17] soundtrack right amazing amazing

[00:48:19] soundtrack I don't know if you guys agree

[00:48:21] I mean it's not one

[00:48:23] of those soundtracks that I think people

[00:48:25] rank in one of the best

[00:48:27] like it's not going to win any

[00:48:29] ranking or stuff like that but when you

[00:48:31] listen to it in the context

[00:48:33] of the context of the music

[00:48:35] it's a very much

[00:48:37] that era of Rahman

[00:48:39] you know like you can really like especially

[00:48:41] when you're

[00:48:43] the airbatchoo song with

[00:48:45] us in those guitar riffs

[00:48:47] that are going on you know that's

[00:48:49] such a Rahman thing of that era

[00:48:51] he doesn't do that anymore right

[00:48:53] I think

[00:48:55] yeah it was very popular in Tamil

[00:48:57] as well when he did the boy soundtrack

[00:48:59] and it kind of reminded me

[00:49:01] oh yeah that was when

[00:49:03] it started and it kind of culminates

[00:49:05] in this soundtrack and

[00:49:07] I really enjoy the soundtrack but

[00:49:09] I think you know the

[00:49:11] ARM and bracket spoiled it for me because

[00:49:13] Becca went against Hayrama or something

[00:49:15] or Mungtayak and people voted for

[00:49:17] Becca

[00:49:19] and I was like why

[00:49:21] they voted for Becca

[00:49:23] so

[00:49:25] how did I get you

[00:49:27] is actually on it like

[00:49:29] it's part of my regular rotation

[00:49:31] on my phone

[00:49:33] like I listen to it quite often

[00:49:35] and

[00:49:37] it's funny because I like I said

[00:49:39] I haven't watched the film since

[00:49:41] it came out

[00:49:43] but the soundtrack

[00:49:45] is something that I listen to often on

[00:49:47] you know

[00:49:49] I think that song is so good that

[00:49:51] it kind of supersedes the movie

[00:49:53] when you know like I think anybody

[00:49:55] can still sing it or cover it

[00:49:57] or remix it and

[00:49:59] it's still a banger of a song

[00:50:01] it's honestly one of

[00:50:03] ARM's best I would say and it's not one

[00:50:05] that people rate as much

[00:50:07] but it's a beautiful beautiful composition

[00:50:09] thank you

[00:50:11] we need to talk about

[00:50:13] the Becca song

[00:50:15] Amrita

[00:50:17] I don't know what Sujoy is talking about

[00:50:19] I love it but it's not

[00:50:21] Mangaayek

[00:50:23] fair fair

[00:50:25] yeah like

[00:50:27] Sujoy said is very MTV

[00:50:29] you know

[00:50:31] it's very Justin Timberlake

[00:50:33] how come to do that

[00:50:35] so much fit over there

[00:50:37] oh my god

[00:50:39] but Gia sells the heck out of that song

[00:50:41] you know like she's like

[00:50:43] she's this

[00:50:45] she's just fun to watch

[00:50:47] talking about Latu

[00:50:49] Becca oh sorry

[00:50:51] the 7 ARM's in a fedora

[00:50:53] that's the one we're talking about

[00:50:55] yeah

[00:50:57] I mean

[00:50:59] yes I think like Asim

[00:51:01] basically was asking me

[00:51:03] Asim was baiting you

[00:51:05] yeah Asim was like

[00:51:07] here is Amrita's biggest nightmare

[00:51:11] and it was like 7 ARM's

[00:51:13] in like 7 outfits

[00:51:15] none of them acceptable

[00:51:17] I swear

[00:51:19] styled by Van Huisen

[00:51:21] what was that

[00:51:23] so much just

[00:51:25] so many nipples

[00:51:27] so many nipples

[00:51:29] 14 nipples

[00:51:33] I genuinely

[00:51:35] like I get it like he worked really hard

[00:51:37] for that body so he needs to

[00:51:39] just sort of like

[00:51:41] show it off

[00:51:43] my eyes

[00:51:45] I mean I just

[00:51:47] absolutely not

[00:51:49] sorry

[00:51:51] I was like in the clip

[00:51:53] because they're also dating at that time

[00:51:55] right so Amrita is doing poor people

[00:51:57] things you know like having like

[00:51:59] Golgappay and like eating watermelon

[00:52:01] and drinking tea from dirty cups

[00:52:03] and he's looking at it like oh these poor people

[00:52:05] but he does nothing

[00:52:07] he does with this

[00:52:09] knowledge he doesn't learn as a

[00:52:11] multi-bridge man

[00:52:13] he starts drinking tea from the Sausage

[00:52:15] at a board meeting

[00:52:17] he doesn't improve anybody's life

[00:52:19] he just becomes Batman

[00:52:21] like that's like he learns nothing

[00:52:25] my favorite section from Beka is

[00:52:27] the bit where the song goes from

[00:52:29] a pop MTV track to a rock section

[00:52:31] where the chorus sings

[00:52:33] Beka meh and it's like proper

[00:52:35] drums section comes

[00:52:37] that's my favorite yeah

[00:52:39] and then Gujarat

[00:52:41] also

[00:52:43] oh beautiful

[00:52:45] beautiful

[00:52:47] short beautifully as well

[00:52:49] but Amr's fashion choices again

[00:52:51] very very questionable

[00:52:55] I think we were watching

[00:52:57] the crew right

[00:52:59] I think Gujarat

[00:53:01] if Gujarat didn't happen

[00:53:03] that shot of Naina wouldn't have happened

[00:53:05] the way like they're standing on

[00:53:07] the wings and the thing

[00:53:09] it's very like that aesthetic of that

[00:53:11] flying long veil kind of thing

[00:53:13] reminded me a lot of that

[00:53:15] that it's such a

[00:53:17] I think they went to Namibia or something like that

[00:53:19] to shoot that song

[00:53:21] it's really beautiful

[00:53:23] and again a beautiful composition

[00:53:27] also liked in the first version of

[00:53:29] how did you find me

[00:53:31] that she sells

[00:53:33] the car for him

[00:53:35] for him

[00:53:37] I thought that was really really sweet because

[00:53:39] he just basically tells this random story

[00:53:41] that his mom is sick and he has to go back

[00:53:43] to the village I think even he is

[00:53:45] like he's done with his lie

[00:53:47] and he's putting no effort into the lies

[00:53:49] he's like naanimarge

[00:53:51] you know that kind of level of

[00:53:53] basically kids do

[00:53:55] when they don't do their homework

[00:53:57] and she's had this idea

[00:53:59] that she's going to buy three ambassador cars

[00:54:01] and then she was going to be a success

[00:54:03] and she could get married she ended up buying one car

[00:54:05] but then she sells it for Amir

[00:54:07] and he takes the money

[00:54:09] he doesn't just tell her at that point

[00:54:11] no I'm a multi-million

[00:54:13] he still takes the money keeps the lie going

[00:54:15] but

[00:54:17] like smart asin did not sell the flat though

[00:54:19] because Mumbai real estate is the big one

[00:54:25] he gave her the flat right

[00:54:29] so what's your favorite track in the

[00:54:31] soundtrack then

[00:54:33] how do you like it

[00:54:35] it's my favorite

[00:54:37] I mean gazaarish is close

[00:54:39] and there are elements in the other songs too

[00:54:41] like you know the drums

[00:54:43] that you're saying the guitars

[00:54:45] the clip of lattu

[00:54:47] I really really like

[00:54:49] there's something so energetic about it

[00:54:51] the way it comes in and the song really drops

[00:54:53] it's like a perfect

[00:54:55] pop kind of song

[00:54:57] of that era

[00:54:59] yeah I don't know Amir

[00:55:01] what's your favorite song

[00:55:03] yeah it's

[00:55:05] especially the part with

[00:55:07] the female version

[00:55:09] like you know

[00:55:11] where she comes in

[00:55:13] that's my favorite bit

[00:55:19] one more other thing that I really liked

[00:55:21] about this movie generally is

[00:55:23] the moment that it

[00:55:25] does wear into the horror elements of it

[00:55:27] and I think those are done really really well

[00:55:29] I think like

[00:55:31] that one sequence which is

[00:55:33] unnecessary but it works really well

[00:55:35] again this is the theme of the movie

[00:55:37] is when Amir Khan is

[00:55:39] going after Jiya Khan's character

[00:55:41] in the hostel

[00:55:43] he's really

[00:55:45] shown as like Michael Myers

[00:55:47] or like you know freddy gruger coming to kill her

[00:55:49] you know and I think that's

[00:55:51] very very well done

[00:55:53] it's like pure horror right

[00:55:55] and then also just that sequence where

[00:55:57] the villains capture him

[00:55:59] and they erase all of his

[00:56:01] tattoos with the tattoo gun

[00:56:03] again I think it's quite brutal

[00:56:05] like if you think about like this man

[00:56:07] this is the only

[00:56:09] set he has to

[00:56:11] his past life and you erase

[00:56:13] all of that

[00:56:15] it's such a brutal thing right like

[00:56:17] instead of just killing him

[00:56:19] they do that to him

[00:56:21] and then also

[00:56:23] just the fight sequence

[00:56:25] I think they're very inspired of that movie

[00:56:27] by Jetli

[00:56:29] Danny the dog I don't know if you

[00:56:31] have watched that movie

[00:56:33] it's called Unleashed also

[00:56:35] Unleashed for Danny the dog

[00:56:37] it had two names

[00:56:39] and the way Amir has definitely

[00:56:41] seen that movie like the way

[00:56:43] he's fighting is 100% Danny the dog

[00:56:45] I think they had to

[00:56:47] obviously speed up the footage

[00:56:49] just to match how it looks

[00:56:51] and then they had to speed up

[00:56:53] at least 1.5 times to make it look

[00:56:55] like he's competently running

[00:56:57] behind him

[00:56:59] and it's an amazing action scene

[00:57:01] just like you know when they're like

[00:57:03] he's like how are you going to get into this

[00:57:05] you know

[00:57:07] layer of

[00:57:09] the scene

[00:57:11] and then

[00:57:13] he's like

[00:57:15] he's like

[00:57:17] he's like

[00:57:19] this layer of the villain

[00:57:21] and he just walks in

[00:57:23] like he cannot give a crap at that moment

[00:57:25] he just walks in and just like

[00:57:27] brutalize everybody

[00:57:29] it's funny because for the first time

[00:57:31] we get the introduction

[00:57:33] of Sanjay Singhania post the drama

[00:57:35] right we are seeing him

[00:57:37] he beats down somebody

[00:57:39] and then he takes out his really

[00:57:41] chunky Polaroid camera

[00:57:43] from me

[00:57:45] and we were talking after watching this

[00:57:47] this would have like if

[00:57:49] Gajini were to be made to this

[00:57:51] needed

[00:57:53] did not need this device because we all

[00:57:55] have smartphones now

[00:57:57] and so that whole Polaroid thing is like

[00:57:59] you know his life in this thick bundle

[00:58:01] of Polaroids is just hilarious

[00:58:05] it's such a pre-sale phone

[00:58:07] pre-smartphone movie right

[00:58:09] it's just like yeah

[00:58:11] it's quite funny

[00:58:13] I was

[00:58:15] we've talked about the romance

[00:58:17] the action and the horror I think the comedy

[00:58:19] of this is what we

[00:58:21] left and like I really wanted

[00:58:23] to point out two scenes obviously the advertising

[00:58:25] bit where Kalpana is obviously

[00:58:27] part of some really

[00:58:29] homegrown advertising industry

[00:58:31] where we all get

[00:58:33] the Cheddi Banyan ads

[00:58:35] and the jewelry ads

[00:58:37] and the local mall ads that come on cable

[00:58:39] TV right and all the detergent

[00:58:41] ads and Asin is selling

[00:58:43] the heck out of it I really love that

[00:58:45] and that whole misunderstanding

[00:58:47] with Kunal Vichaker

[00:58:49] she thinks like

[00:58:51] she's talking about Sanjay Singh Hanya

[00:58:53] and she's selling

[00:58:55] the heck out of the advertising agency

[00:58:57] and the whole

[00:58:59] Sunil Grover part where

[00:59:01] she asked Sunil Grover to be

[00:59:03] Sanjay Singh Hanya at the annual function

[00:59:07] and then Sunil Grover has to

[00:59:09] swap his

[00:59:11] suit jacket with Amir and they had to

[00:59:13] obviously cut the scene because

[00:59:15] the Sunil Grover suit

[00:59:17] on Amir won't be the same fit

[00:59:23] sorry so much body shaming

[00:59:25] in this episode it's getting high

[00:59:27] shaming

[00:59:29] but I was watching it and I was like man

[00:59:31] these guys like Sunil Grover they really

[00:59:33] paid their dues man like to get

[00:59:35] where they are now like all of these little

[00:59:37] bit truths that they had to take

[00:59:39] and yeah

[00:59:41] yeah I'm really happy

[00:59:43] you watched this I hadn't

[00:59:45] rewatched it since I think but I always

[00:59:47] have fond memory of it and it's just

[00:59:49] watching it saying it is

[00:59:51] actually as good as I remember that doesn't

[00:59:53] happen a lot I would even go as far

[00:59:55] as to say this is for me one

[00:59:57] of Amir's best like this is

[00:59:59] a really really good movie

[01:00:01] I have a question for you too though because

[01:00:03] obviously the Tamil movies also called Gajini

[01:00:05] and this is called Gajini

[01:00:07] here the villain is named as Gajini

[01:00:09] right but in the Tamil

[01:00:11] the villain is not Gajini the name

[01:00:13] the significance of the name

[01:00:15] I think what Wikipedia

[01:00:17] says it's because

[01:00:19] Gajini is how you say

[01:00:21] you know Mahmud of Gajini in Tamil

[01:00:23] so

[01:00:25] somebody who

[01:00:27] is very relentless in their

[01:00:29] pursuit I guess Gajini in the Tamil

[01:00:31] version means

[01:00:33] it's talking about the protagonist and

[01:00:35] seeking revenge after all the

[01:00:37] events but because it doesn't

[01:00:39] really translate in the Hindi version

[01:00:41] the villain has to be called Gajini

[01:00:43] because they had to retain the title of

[01:00:45] the movie for the remake which was

[01:00:47] interesting because then it's

[01:00:49] the title in the

[01:00:51] Tamil it's for the

[01:00:53] protagonist and here it's for the villain so that's

[01:00:55] interesting I remember

[01:00:57] watching it I don't remember

[01:00:59] that well but I really felt Amir's

[01:01:01] version was better than the

[01:01:03] one in the Tamil version

[01:01:05] it's just like you have a knife and

[01:01:07] you sharpen it a little bit more

[01:01:09] and I think this was just they

[01:01:11] used the budget well they had a much better

[01:01:13] soundtrack everything looked

[01:01:15] the action was heightened

[01:01:17] the emotions were heightened

[01:01:19] I don't think Suriya had

[01:01:21] a massive body transformation

[01:01:23] like I think they had

[01:01:25] they used with the lines

[01:01:27] to accentuate his muscles more than

[01:01:29] actually having a whole body reveal

[01:01:31] that I think at that time

[01:01:33] I remember having it been improved

[01:01:35] and I couldn't even find

[01:01:37] the old version streaming somewhere

[01:01:39] easily I think it's probably the same

[01:01:41] old YouTube print that I watch back

[01:01:43] in the day that is still available

[01:01:45] but yeah I mean

[01:01:47] I don't remember it that well so if

[01:01:49] people do remember it or

[01:01:51] you know say that the original was better

[01:01:53] do drop us a line

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