Digital music streaming services have revolutionized the global music industry, particularly indie music in India. Independent creators now rank among the top-selling artists on these platforms.
Today's independent singer-songwriters are making the world take notice of their unique, previously unheard tunes and lyrics. They're no longer merely serving as playback singers but are making a significant impact on the Indian indie music scene. But what does it take to begin a successful career as an indie musician in India?
In this episode featuring Gaurav Dagaonkar, co-founder of Hoopr.ai, we delve into the process of distributing your music for free as an emerging artist. We also discuss cost-effective production setups and new opportunities within the rapidly growing Indian indie music landscape.
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Saikat Pyne: Hi, I'm Sekar marketer, creative and media nerd. Welcome to
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Saikat Pyne: Please join me in welcoming Gorov the co-founder of hooper
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Saikat Pyne: dot a i India's first e iPod music licencing platform
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Saikat Pyne: that's focused on solving a billion dollar problem faced by
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Saikat Pyne: content creators and businesses every day. And that problem is
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Saikat Pyne: discovering and licencing the right music for their videos.
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Saikat Pyne: While Hooper is catering to the demand for licenced music,
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Saikat Pyne: it also offers a massive opportunity for thousands of indie
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Saikat Pyne: musicians to be able to monetize their music. Welcome to
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Saikat Pyne: the show.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Thank you so much
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Saikat Pyne: when you look at the indie music scene in India
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Saikat Pyne: Lia Misra Breath Ways Nuclear. Shirley City. The list is
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Saikat Pyne: growing longer by 13. What is leading this resurgence of
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Saikat Pyne: indie music creators in
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: India? Great question. I think one has to recognise the
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: fact music production has become very democratised.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: OK, it's never been easier to actually produce music and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to make songs literally today, a youngster sitting in his
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: or her bedroom and turning out songs. It's not easy,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: right? There are production workstations and Softwares like Logic Pro
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Garage Manto comes loaded with a MacBook today. There's also
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: very easy to use platforms like Apple and Live,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: and I think one of the big things that happened
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: it was happening over the last 4 to 5 years.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: But during the pandemic, what really got accelerated is a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: lot of youngsters who started learning music that a lot
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of them also have started literally getting into these kind
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of music tools or music editing. Recording gear has become affordable.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So at one primary level, I think over the last
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: 5 to 10 years, production became very. I remember the
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: time when I finished my M. B A and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: went into music full time, so I had to do
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: that simply because there was no home studio set up
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: At that time, you had to either access a large
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: studio to become a music theatre or then you had
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to couldn't really follow your passion. There was no part
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: time stuff, right? So the work,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I think over the last 7 to 8 years the entire, uh,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: proliferation and popularity of, say, YouTube videos see so many
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: artists sitting and creating songs from the comfort of their
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: home artist. A ban, I would say, popular with the
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: city and and all these guys who started becoming very
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: popular with covers. And then came the wave of Hindi
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: artists like, say, so on.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So that has inspired a lot of music creators. And
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I think there's also a certain relatability angle that many
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of these artists have. I think Prade Khar has always
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: obeyed himself unapologetically. There is not just being himself with
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: his guitar like letting his songs do the talking. I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: think that has connected a lot with millions of youngsters
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: with their guitars or their home setups. And so maybe
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: so at a fundamental level. I think these are few
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of the thoughts that come to my mind when I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: think of how is the e. D ecosystem become so
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: big and so popular?
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Saikat Pyne: Imagine I am 19 year old, but being indie music
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Saikat Pyne: artist
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Saikat Pyne: or me and B file Just man. I have created
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Saikat Pyne: a song of my own with my own vocals. Could
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Saikat Pyne: you give me a simple blueprint about how I can
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Saikat Pyne: distribute this music all by myself?
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: advice for working at P. Three wave bound please go
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: back to your workstation and get a 48 24 or
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: 44 16 wave file. I know even if you have
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: an MP three and it's sounding good enough two straight
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: up things that can be done. A two is the
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: network work you to pay a with or without a video. Earlier,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: there was that 41 needs to have some sort of
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: a visual or a video.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: But today, even if it's a nice artwork or a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: nice graphical lyrical video, the rises to sub so that
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you know you can reach out to the millions hundreds
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of millions of people who are consuming music through you.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: The other thing that you obviously need to do is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: have a presence on streaming platforms.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I in fact, I think in my in the question
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you asked me. It's very important to say a lot
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of these indie artists have been discovered through the streaming platform.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: You know, the algorithm spotted by
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: and and so on.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So the the way to distribute it to all of
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: these streaming platforms, or T SPS, as they are called,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: is through a music distribution service. So there are plenty
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of them in the market. Customer service platforms like a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: dis CD baby tune or Horus believed
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: music distribution, uh, the model. Or either they take off
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: or a revenue share of the revenues that your song
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: makes or then Sometimes they take an upfront fee for
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: every upload.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Choose whatever is comfortable for you and go ahead and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: make sure that your song is across all streaming platforms.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Tag it. Understand Kira Genre Tag your song. There's a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: higher probability of your song being discovered by the writer playlist.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: The other thing that I would really advise musicians is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to make sure you are. You're performing as much as possible,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: be it on ground activities, whether it's a simple pub
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: where you can get your hands dirty and start performing
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Lucky Play an opening act college fest, but you be present,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: play everywhere. I remember when my album came out, I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: was literally playing every single college fest. I also got
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: a great chance to open for Shankar and Bomb, and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: that gave me
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: a lot of exposure. So yes is a And then,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of course, there is social media. You just you're creating
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: reels you're creating, communicating with your audience. So, yes, Sari
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: is a Most artists get a little lazy sometimes and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: want not to work these areas. But the truth is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: they are whatever it is. You wanna make sure that
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: people in today's times where you want to make sure
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: that you are connecting with your audience
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So these are the 34 things you can do if
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you are sitting today with an audio track and you
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: want to release
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: at his basic
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Saikat Pyne: lovely
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Saikat Pyne: stick to the basic or basic Banesco. Imagine I'm somebody
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Saikat Pyne: who's interested in music. Could you give me the example
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Saikat Pyne: of a very simple, like the bare bones media production
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Saikat Pyne: set up? Could you give me an example and a
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Saikat Pyne: very average sort of a cost structure for how much
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Saikat Pyne: money I need to have in the bank to be
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Saikat Pyne: able to afford? This
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: will need a workstation that comes along with which is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: on your laptop or a desktop. If you're using a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Mac or garage band occupies already, reload it out, or
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you can then move to Logic Pro. I've always used
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Logic Pro, so I'm very familiar with that logic, which does?
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I don't know if, but it's worth it because it
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: gives you all sorts of tools to produce music.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: The options are Appleton Cuba Nudo or be very slow
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: and music production. There are a lot of try before
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you buy offers that these platforms offer. So try and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: get your hands dirty. Start producing using one of these workstations.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Loops are there. Plugins are there. So most of these
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: good workstations and a base
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you, of course you need plug in. But at least
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: logic comes with a lot of it.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: To trigger these sounds, you'll also need a MIDI keyboard.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So there are many
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: good companies that start with, say, M audio is a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: fantastic company or big a midi keyboard. So you want
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to play chords. You want to make some simple up.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: You want to play something to record all that is needed.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: One more thing up that's needed, and I'm sure you
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: must be having it. Your end, the sound card, right?
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Or a sound interface. Because when you want to record
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: your voice through a mic, many of these vocal files
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: the sample rate is pretty high to be able to
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: handle it.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Joni Computer Inbuilt sound card. A sound interface or struggles. Right.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So you need a sound interface again. Again. There are
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: many companies here that provide great sound interfaces, especially for beginners,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I think focus, Right? Scarlett is a very popular sound card.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: And then, of course, get a good microphone. Either a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: dynamic mic like an S m 58 or two, or
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: then condense a layover. 42 s, m 58 The
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: k g c 4143. But this is a great one.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: If you're a good singer, then you deserve it. But
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: one thing I must tell you before, and of course,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you will get your studio monitors like, say, five is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: good again. M o U is great,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: uh or then just get a good pair of headphones and, uh,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: a k g out there. But, uh, one of the
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: things is is happy of producing music to treat him?
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I think a lot of singers they make this big
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: mistake or
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to there is a lot of reverberation and a lot
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of reflection of the sound waves from the walls. So
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: E are basic, super simple, basic egg box, pa LA,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: which all we create man, they kept.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: That is also good. But anything that that sort of
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: makes your room a little less reflective. You've got a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: good set up a set up. Of course, computer could be,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: but I think I would say anywhere between a couple
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of lack, maybe a lack to a couple of Lac
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to 2.5 lak.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: But it's an investment before anybody buys all this at least,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: and I had a good idea. Then, gradually, part by part,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you start adding
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Saikat Pyne: nice. Let's speak about non music avenues for music creators, but,
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Saikat Pyne: like other songs could monetize right if you have just
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Saikat Pyne: maybe created some very sick beats or I've just created
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Saikat Pyne: a background score that I really like, what are some
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Saikat Pyne: of the monetization avenues for indie creators. So there are
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Saikat Pyne: many
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: ways now that are coming up for music producers or
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: music creators who want to monetize their IP. So to say,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Hooper is a great example. Let's say, if you are
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: a music producer and you want
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: people say content creators to licence your track to use
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: in their blogs, podcasts or live streams or you want, say,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: a band to use it in their branded content or
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: influence their activity, then is a fantastic to have multiple
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: people licence your music and pay you for it,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: right? And this is, of course, if you are a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: music producer who is creating songs or background scores for
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: the purpose of synchronisation to sync licencing music producers can
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: activate revenue and internationally, so there are multiple whole legacy
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: platforms that were there. I personally known music producers who
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: have made millions to sync licencing, literally in dollars. I'm
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: talking about millions of dollars through sync licencing. So India
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: me and but
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: it's great. If you are a new music creator, you
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: should read about it and check out.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: The other thing is, you can always sell your beats
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: on multiple platforms currently on Hooper. We don't allow that,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: but there are platforms that allow you just maybe sell
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: your beat or put up your beat for licencing. I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: know there's beats as if you're a vocalist. I have
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: seen this platform international platform I call vocal that you
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: can put up your vocals and somebody can licence it
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: over there. Multiple collaboration tools are coming up, so this
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: is also an exciting space which people can do. I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: think there's also ample opportunity to work for hire.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Let's say, if you are a music producer, you're not
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: an artist who's performing live or who's trying to earn
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: money from, Let's say, his or her streams and so on.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I think the good old stuff of working with, say,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: production houses, working with platforms. There are so many audio
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: books platforms that are coming up so music production does.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: The hurry is a requirement here. If you are a
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: music creator and you're good at your work, then I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: think there are multiple, different ways by which you can
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: monetize your talent without necessarily being a songwriter. N f.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I'll be very honest with you. I do not have
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: so much experience
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: in that particular space because I have or knowledge I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: have is what I've read or seen. A few brains
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: develop platforms in the space. Uh, but there there is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: an opportunity here. If you create good music, put out
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: non fungible tokens. If people are willing to invest in you,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I think that also might be like in the future.
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Saikat Pyne: Nice. He can't speak word any content without speaking about
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Saikat Pyne: IP misuse Social Media
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Saikat Pyne: Ramp and M B LinkedIn, instagram or otherwise. What do
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Saikat Pyne: you think is the future of how creators can safeguard
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Saikat Pyne: their IP, especially music creators? Because quite naturally, when let's
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Saikat Pyne: say it gets picked up by Instagram and added, So
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Saikat Pyne: many creators have benefited from some of their music going viral, right?
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Saikat Pyne: But sometimes the channel from which via which it goes viral,
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Saikat Pyne: might not be the most legitimate one. How do you
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Saikat Pyne: see the future of how
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Saikat Pyne: creators can safeguard their IP s going forward?
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Um, this is a great question, Sekar. Absolutely. I think
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: right now we are in that stage where social media
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: is probably just a little over a decade old and maturing,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: and there is just a lot of excitement about everybody
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: want put up, want to collaborate, and he makes, and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: there is a whole going on. I think what everybody
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: he is excited about is still made of violence, and
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: I got Expo out
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: and they tend to link it to then different ways
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: of monetizing, say a create a popular Viet who wants
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to monetize through brand deals. And musicians also then typically
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: tend to go to gigs
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: even if they didn't earn anything out of their viral video.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: And we've seen so many such stories on every I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: had about 15 20 million views, and I'm talking about
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: back in 2016 18, but barely any money made through
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: those covers because they themselves were made without any label.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: So I was very happy because recognition, Maia shows, so
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: you don't care so much about monetizing anything that you
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: have made. But gradually, what is happening is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: digital rights management on platforms is becoming better, stronger. I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: think YouTube is the leading
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: black, and a large part of the onus lies on
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: the platform.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: YouTube, for example, has content ID, and they are able
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: to understand who is the original copyright owner, who is
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: the user of this particular track and what action to
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: be taken? Does the money go to the copyright owner?
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Does the money get split between the two? And I
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: think they're the ones who have at least created this
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: entire D R M tool properly.
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: Most of the short format platforms the boss. It's a mess,
00:16:50
Gaurav Dagaonkar: and it's a mess right from the part where a
00:16:53
Gaurav Dagaonkar: lot of the the thinking or philosophy of these platforms
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: as they are for usage of music and so on,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: so that needs to change Fundamentally,
00:17:02
Gaurav Dagaonkar: musicians are even today not able to really copyright their
00:17:05
Gaurav Dagaonkar: tracks so easily. India makes a very cumbersome process to
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: copyright your mute audio fingerprinting tools are also still maturing,
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: and there are a few phenomenal platforms that are in
00:17:14
Gaurav Dagaonkar: audible magic. But yet I can't say that there's any
00:17:18
Gaurav Dagaonkar: platform or any tool which is absolutely there to safeguard
00:17:22
Gaurav Dagaonkar: the user. A lot depends upon the platforms that are
00:17:25
Gaurav Dagaonkar: allowing such collaborations
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: is the way YouTube has built a content ID, and
00:17:29
Gaurav Dagaonkar: to their end, when the musicians are creating tracks, I'm
00:17:32
Gaurav Dagaonkar: sure there will be some new routes and tools that emerge,
00:17:35
Gaurav Dagaonkar: which allow them to copyright their melody, their lyrics or
00:17:38
Gaurav Dagaonkar: some sort of an audio fingerprint. It's something that they
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Gaurav Dagaonkar: all with no clear answer right now. Hopefully, in the
00:17:43
Gaurav Dagaonkar: next couple of years, I think you'll see a lot
00:17:45
Saikat Pyne: of God have saved the best for the last. Imagine
00:17:50
Saikat Pyne: somebody who was interested in being a music producer. Part-time
00:17:54
Saikat Pyne: Maha Busco could be full time Karmini Koko as a
00:17:58
Saikat Pyne: hobby Karna as a side hustle Karna likely just as
00:18:02
Saikat Pyne: a way to express themselves. But the condition for this
00:18:06
Saikat Pyne: person is I. I will save every freaking last penny
00:18:12
Saikat Pyne: that I can
00:18:13
Saikat Pyne: while still wanting to pursue my hobby as a music producer.
00:18:21
Saikat Pyne: Laptop social, which means garage.
00:18:26
Saikat Pyne: So what is the most stripped down version, like a
00:18:30
Saikat Pyne: near free version that I can still be a music producer?
00:18:34
Saikat Pyne: Where can I learn music production number one and when
00:18:38
Saikat Pyne: can I then start populating my content for free? Or like,
00:18:42
Saikat Pyne: near free? Not a near free via but but the
00:18:45
Saikat Pyne: fundamental is Miri
00:18:50
Saikat Pyne: hopefully
00:18:51
Gaurav Dagaonkar: got it. OK, so music, part time music.
00:18:56
Gaurav Dagaonkar: You don't have to be a full time position
00:19:00
Gaurav Dagaonkar: in order to enjoy music or to create music. I
00:19:02
Gaurav Dagaonkar: don't know why there has always been this thing here
00:19:04
Gaurav Dagaonkar: full time. You can happily do it purely for recreational purposes,
00:19:09
Gaurav Dagaonkar: feeling good about yourself or expressing yourself to a song,
00:19:12
Gaurav Dagaonkar: which you share with the world. And I'm all for
00:19:14
Gaurav Dagaonkar: part time musician. You can just go there to feel
00:19:21
Gaurav Dagaonkar: fit and feel good, and you want to put out songs.
00:19:24
Gaurav Dagaonkar: You must go ahead and do it, even if it's
00:19:26
Gaurav Dagaonkar: part time. Number one.
00:19:28
Gaurav Dagaonkar: Number two. Of course, music release is a another. If
00:19:31
Gaurav Dagaonkar: you want to learn it and you want to learn
00:19:33
Gaurav Dagaonkar: your skills,
00:19:35
Gaurav Dagaonkar: I think better about three to possibly YouTube is the
00:19:39
Gaurav Dagaonkar: best resource. Best go to, I would say resource to
00:19:43
Gaurav Dagaonkar: learn anything to do with music, whether it is playing guitar, singing, music, production, mixing,
00:19:49
Gaurav Dagaonkar: mastering
00:19:51
Gaurav Dagaonkar: anything, editing, some good and
00:19:54
Gaurav Dagaonkar: absolutely fantastic tutorials are there on you,
00:19:58
Gaurav Dagaonkar: right? So it's about a free resource sector. So a
00:20:03
Gaurav Dagaonkar: is the ad advertising company. They're paying for it to
00:20:07
Gaurav Dagaonkar: go for it and the sort of data knowledge. But
00:20:09
Gaurav Dagaonkar: in terms of putting out music to know if you
00:20:10
Gaurav Dagaonkar: have a MacBook up, at least getting a piece of
00:20:16
Gaurav Dagaonkar: in there and a new work garage band I have
00:20:18
Gaurav Dagaonkar: seen people and we've had some submissions which are quite good.
00:20:22
Gaurav Dagaonkar: Where they did not use any professional grade microphone or
00:20:25
Gaurav Dagaonkar: anything like that. They just recorded it literally on the
00:20:30
Gaurav Dagaonkar: microphone in the computer. OK, I wouldn't advise that, Uh,
00:20:34
Gaurav Dagaonkar: but iPhone has a fantastic recorder, and so do many
00:20:43
Gaurav Dagaonkar: android phones. Many voiceovers they can phone record. OK, digital
00:20:48
Gaurav Dagaonkar: a release. So so voice
00:20:54
Gaurav Dagaonkar: up her voice recording killer. You'll need some sort of
00:20:57
Gaurav Dagaonkar: a backing. So there are many tools that come in
00:20:59
Gaurav Dagaonkar: that they give you either a bed like a strings bed,
00:21:02
Gaurav Dagaonkar: tin pad and a click right to a basic headphones
00:21:07
Gaurav Dagaonkar: like up phone. Pay up a vocal,
00:21:11
Gaurav Dagaonkar: uh, the backing track, of course, will not allow you
00:21:17
Gaurav Dagaonkar: to create now, but you can still grab tracks for
00:21:20
Gaurav Dagaonkar: as less as maybe a few 100 bucks on multiple sites,
00:21:24
Gaurav Dagaonkar: a track or creativity, you know, extra and record your
00:21:32
Gaurav Dagaonkar: voice here, mixing master kill again. There are platforms which
00:21:35
Gaurav Dagaonkar: do it for cheap, where you can use some plugins.
00:21:38
Gaurav Dagaonkar: But I feel that, uh, you know which need to
00:21:42
Gaurav Dagaonkar: basic mix master of the workstation by a kind of
00:21:47
Gaurav Dagaonkar: a product of you? Yeah, the post requirements of just
00:21:50
Gaurav Dagaonkar: a few 1000 bucks, you should be able to put
00:21:52
Gaurav Dagaonkar: out a track. How good it is, of course, is
00:21:54
Gaurav Dagaonkar: something that people will decide. But in today's day and
00:21:58
Gaurav Dagaonkar: age of consumption, I must say only if it is
00:22:03
Gaurav Dagaonkar: a phenomenal master and a mix, will it be a hit?
00:22:06
Gaurav Dagaonkar: Love Instagram. Anything blows up, you know? So it's about
00:22:15
Gaurav Dagaonkar: how entertaining you are and how good you are, how
00:22:17
Gaurav Dagaonkar: much your creation is connecting either emotionally or in some
00:22:20
Gaurav Dagaonkar: way with people right to to one. There is no,
00:22:24
Gaurav Dagaonkar: there is nothing about to stay as you progress as
00:22:29
Gaurav Dagaonkar: you become better and better. It does make sense because,
00:22:33
Gaurav Dagaonkar: you know, just like anything else
00:22:38
Gaurav Dagaonkar: So they see it.
00:22:40
Gaurav Dagaonkar: He, at some point in time,
00:22:43
Gaurav Dagaonkar: at least plan for an investment so that in one
00:22:45
Gaurav Dagaonkar: year at a time, but possible to start without much
00:22:49
Saikat Pyne: invest on that inspiring note. It's a rap.
00:22:53
Saikat Pyne: Thank you so much for being on the podcast. Really appreciated.
00:22:56
Saikat Pyne: You taking time out for this?
00:22:58
Gaurav Dagaonkar: My pleasure. Thank you so much. Bye,
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