From Challenges to Champion: Dr. Jaishree Sharad’s inspiring story

[00:00:00] I had a friend who used to give me fruits and nuts everyday

[00:00:02] And today, in the history of my life, he was my witness for my runaway marriage

[00:00:08] I had a Bollywood marriage

[00:00:09] Oh! Okay!

[00:00:12] My life story is very colourful

[00:00:13] My husband said, see, you've learnt all of this

[00:00:16] Not one patient has come to you saying, I want Botox

[00:00:19] Six years of yours have gone

[00:00:21] Yeah

[00:00:22] Or he'd be that patient here

[00:00:23] You know, you're getting somebody

[00:00:25] Not for Botox but for a device

[00:00:27] Do something about it

[00:00:28] And India's most famous dermatologist

[00:00:32] I'm so glad, I think mom...

[00:00:33] I always believed that mom had such a significant role

[00:00:36] Role to play

[00:00:36] Although it's a bad thing to say

[00:00:38] Had she not been ill

[00:00:40] I wouldn't have gone

[00:00:41] And I would have been a physician

[00:00:43] And after doing landmarks, they make you talk

[00:00:46] And then on the second day, it's a two and three and a half day thing

[00:00:50] They make you talk to the person you've never spoken to

[00:00:53] And you want to open up to

[00:00:54] Some of them have come out in the open, right?

[00:00:56] And they speak about it

[00:00:57] Ranveer and family

[00:00:59] They did

[00:01:00] They're the portrait you

[00:01:01] Riddhim as one of my closest friends

[00:01:03] So at my book launch last year, they spoke about it

[00:01:06] Ranveer was very sweet, he spoke about it

[00:01:08] Niduji spoke about it

[00:01:10] Individuality is beauty

[00:01:12] Perfection is not beauty

[00:01:14] Lovely

[00:01:15] Welcome everyone

[00:01:16] We are watching Unstoppable Women right now

[00:01:19] Today we have celebrity, dermatologist

[00:01:22] Dr. Jay Shree Sharad with us

[00:01:24] Thank you so much for having me

[00:01:26] The OG celebrity, dermatologist

[00:01:29] We are so lucky to have you with us today

[00:01:31] Thank you

[00:01:32] I am so fortunate to be here with you

[00:01:34] Yeah

[00:01:34] I think the world knows enough about you

[00:01:37] There's a lot which internet is throwing up

[00:01:40] And you can Google search

[00:01:42] Today I'm hoping

[00:01:43] So you Google searched me

[00:01:44] Yes absolutely

[00:01:45] Google searched you

[00:01:47] And AI searched you

[00:01:48] And whichever searches are possible out there

[00:01:50] Wow

[00:01:50] And

[00:01:52] I just want to go deeper

[00:01:54] Dr. Jay Shree

[00:01:55] You know I think there is a lot more to you

[00:01:58] And the perfect

[00:02:00] Dr. Jay Shree Sharad we see sitting in front of us

[00:02:03] But there is a very softer part to you

[00:02:05] Which I feel in a sense

[00:02:07] Which would come out

[00:02:08] And our viewers should feel it on the show

[00:02:12] That is so sweet of you first of all

[00:02:16] Yeah I feel there are two parts

[00:02:18] You know to me

[00:02:19] Sometimes I'm Dr. Jekyll and sometimes

[00:02:21] Sometimes I'm Pistoy Hyde

[00:02:23] Because

[00:02:24] You know being

[00:02:26] A cosmetic dermatologist for 25 years now

[00:02:29] And being a teacher to a lot of young dermatology students

[00:02:35] Being also sort of in the eye

[00:02:40] Of everybody you have to constantly behave

[00:02:43] In a particular way

[00:02:44] Yeah

[00:02:44] Right

[00:02:46] And a lot of people feel that

[00:02:48] Oh it has all come to me on a platter

[00:02:51] Yeah

[00:02:52] I have to tell everybody that I am

[00:02:56] Not from Mumbai

[00:02:58] I don't have big daddies

[00:03:00] I am from a very lower middle class family

[00:03:04] Born and brought up in Jamshedpur

[00:03:07] Which is at that time it was in Bihar

[00:03:10] So half Bihari

[00:03:12] And but Roots in Andhra

[00:03:15] Okay

[00:03:15] From Telugu

[00:03:16] So

[00:03:18] Till my 10th I was in Jamshedpur

[00:03:20] And then moved to Pune

[00:03:23] And did my 11th and 12th there

[00:03:26] And then did my post-co graduation in a place called Seva Gram

[00:03:29] Mahatma Gandhi

[00:03:31] Aashram

[00:03:31] Mahatma Gandhi Institute of Medical Sciences

[00:03:35] Found my husband there

[00:03:37] He is from Mumbai

[00:03:38] So moved to Mumbai

[00:03:40] So that's the journey

[00:03:42] Where you know

[00:03:44] There's a lot which has happened in childhood

[00:03:46] And as I moved on

[00:03:50] Here when I came I was an outsider

[00:03:53] And those days we did not have NEET

[00:03:55] Abdu NEET exam hai

[00:03:57] You can you know you

[00:03:59] Take that test and then you are placed wherever

[00:04:01] We didn't have NEET

[00:04:02] It was all university

[00:04:03] So mine was University of Nagpur

[00:04:05] Okay

[00:04:06] So when I came I finished my internship

[00:04:08] No I finished my MBBS

[00:04:10] I came here I did my internship in JJ Hospital

[00:04:12] Okay

[00:04:13] But for post-graduation

[00:04:15] I was not eligible

[00:04:16] Because I was not from the University of Mumbai

[00:04:18] Oh is it?

[00:04:19] Okay

[00:04:19] So I had to either go back to Nagpur University

[00:04:22] Yeah

[00:04:23] And get

[00:04:24] I wanted to be a pediatrician

[00:04:25] So I was getting it

[00:04:27] My scores were good

[00:04:28] But why medicine as a field?

[00:04:33] Oh okay

[00:04:34] Let's start at the grass root

[00:04:36] Yes please

[00:04:36] Alright

[00:04:39] So my parents were also

[00:04:42] You know born and brought up in Jamshedpur

[00:04:44] Okay

[00:04:44] So I was third generation in Jamshedpur

[00:04:46] Okay

[00:04:48] My grandparents

[00:04:49] maternal and paternal moved from Andhra Pradesh

[00:04:52] From Andhra they moved to Jamshedpur

[00:04:56] And I was the eldest child

[00:04:58] In the entire family

[00:04:59] Okay

[00:05:00] And in those days

[00:05:01] You know I'm 51 now

[00:05:03] So back in the day when I was born I guess

[00:05:06] You could only be a doctor

[00:05:08] Or a teacher

[00:05:09] Or a lawyer

[00:05:10] Those were the sought after careers

[00:05:11] Bus

[00:05:12] You couldn't be anything else

[00:05:13] Right

[00:05:14] So I think from the time I was born

[00:05:17] I think my grandparents

[00:05:19] My uncles

[00:05:20] My aunts

[00:05:21] My parents

[00:05:21] Everybody was born in my year every night

[00:05:24] Saying you have to be a doctor

[00:05:25] So it was fed into me

[00:05:28] That there was nothing else that

[00:05:30] I was born or made for

[00:05:32] I had to be a doctor

[00:05:33] But you also were bright

[00:05:35] So yeah

[00:05:36] So you know

[00:05:36] Also what happened was

[00:05:40] Dad was an alcoholic

[00:05:42] And a big alcoholic at that

[00:05:44] So a lot of

[00:05:45] And diabetic

[00:05:47] Heart issues

[00:05:48] So a lot of hospital visits

[00:05:51] Plenty

[00:05:52] And me being the eldest

[00:05:54] You know I had two siblings

[00:05:56] But my hospital visits were innumerable

[00:05:59] My God

[00:05:59] Every other time

[00:06:00] Okay

[00:06:01] My dadi also had an ahat issue

[00:06:04] So she also had a lot of hospital visits

[00:06:07] So every time I went to the hospital

[00:06:09] I was just over-ordinated

[00:06:12] By the white court

[00:06:13] And the stethoscope

[00:06:15] And they'd come

[00:06:16] And they'd

[00:06:17] Oscultate

[00:06:18] And they'd talk to us

[00:06:20] Not to us but maybe to my mom

[00:06:22] And

[00:06:23] You know and I'd just be like

[00:06:24] Wow

[00:06:25] You know and he's saving my dad

[00:06:27] Yeah

[00:06:28] Every time

[00:06:29] Every time

[00:06:30] So the problem is

[00:06:32] The solution is there

[00:06:32] That's it

[00:06:33] So whatever it is

[00:06:35] The solution is

[00:06:36] Doctor

[00:06:38] Right

[00:06:38] Doctor

[00:06:39] The doctor for me is God

[00:06:41] Because

[00:06:41] He's saving my dad every time

[00:06:43] Hmm

[00:06:45] Right

[00:06:45] So I think it began from there

[00:06:48] That

[00:06:48] Yeah

[00:06:49] Whatever my

[00:06:51] Relatives

[00:06:51] My family is telling me

[00:06:54] They're not wrong

[00:06:55] Yeah

[00:06:55] Because they want me to be

[00:06:57] This person who can help so many others

[00:06:59] Lovely

[00:07:00] And who can actually

[00:07:02] Breathe in life again

[00:07:03] Yeah

[00:07:03] You know

[00:07:04] Yeah

[00:07:04] And the kind of relief and hope

[00:07:06] You would have got at that time

[00:07:08] At that time

[00:07:08] Right

[00:07:09] Yeah

[00:07:09] What you're telling me

[00:07:10] I think that's something which

[00:07:12] You felt

[00:07:12] Yeah

[00:07:13] Yeah, this is sorted

[00:07:14] Absolutely sorted

[00:07:15] Absolutely sorted

[00:07:16] And you were right

[00:07:18] At that time

[00:07:18] Doctor, engineer or teacher

[00:07:21] Yeah

[00:07:21] At

[00:07:22] Or pilot

[00:07:23] Yes

[00:07:23] Pilot

[00:07:24] If you have an eyesight

[00:07:25] Okay

[00:07:26] Yeah

[00:07:27] So

[00:07:29] I wasn't an engineer

[00:07:30] Dad was an engineer

[00:07:31] Okay

[00:07:31] Dad was an engineer

[00:07:34] I would

[00:07:35] This is a genius

[00:07:36] My dad was a genius

[00:07:37] Not because he's my dad

[00:07:38] But he was really a genius

[00:07:39] You know he used to make our own

[00:07:40] Stitch our clothes

[00:07:42] Once in a year

[00:07:43] And just as

[00:07:43] You were just mentioning

[00:07:45] You know

[00:07:47] Mom's saree ko lekar ke

[00:07:48] Saal mein ek do baar

[00:07:49] Because

[00:07:50] Of his alcoholism

[00:07:52] We were poor

[00:07:54] We were not otherwise poor

[00:07:55] He was getting a good salary

[00:07:56] But everything went in alcohol

[00:07:58] Got it

[00:07:59] Right

[00:07:59] But was there an underlying

[00:08:01] Some reason for it?

[00:08:03] Alcoholism

[00:08:04] I think alcoholism

[00:08:05] I

[00:08:06] I learned very, very late

[00:08:07] That it is a disease

[00:08:08] It is a disease

[00:08:10] You know

[00:08:10] It's not just an addiction

[00:08:13] And there is so much baggage

[00:08:14] That comes behind with it

[00:08:17] Which probably we never understood

[00:08:19] Yeah

[00:08:19] Couping mechanisms weren't there

[00:08:21] Weren't there

[00:08:21] I guess yeah

[00:08:22] I think he was very, very stressed

[00:08:24] There were some personal stories

[00:08:25] Which I know

[00:08:26] But

[00:08:27] You know

[00:08:27] Some other time

[00:08:28] Sure

[00:08:30] And I think he couldn't deal with it

[00:08:32] And he was lonely

[00:08:33] And I think everybody pointed out

[00:08:35] That he's an alcoholic

[00:08:36] So

[00:08:36] Nobody sort of supported him

[00:08:39] Yes

[00:08:39] He was put into alcoholic

[00:08:41] Anonymous for a couple of times

[00:08:42] Here and there

[00:08:43] But that's all that you do

[00:08:44] Where do you show that empathy

[00:08:46] And love and support

[00:08:47] And say

[00:08:48] You know

[00:08:48] It's alright

[00:08:49] I think from the time I was born to

[00:08:52] The time I left

[00:08:53] Yeah

[00:08:54] 15, 16 years of my life

[00:08:57] What was

[00:08:58] How were you coping with it?

[00:08:59] So that's why I wanted to be a doctor

[00:09:00] I said yeah

[00:09:01] Sorted

[00:09:01] I saw people

[00:09:02] Sorted him

[00:09:02] How were you coping at that time?

[00:09:04] Are you

[00:09:05] It was difficult

[00:09:06] It was difficult

[00:09:06] So you know

[00:09:07] Because I was the eldest

[00:09:09] I think I was my mom's defence mechanism

[00:09:12] And support

[00:09:13] She had nobody

[00:09:14] So you had to show up

[00:09:15] Every time

[00:09:16] And be strong

[00:09:17] Had to show up every time

[00:09:17] For all of them

[00:09:18] There was no

[00:09:19] Yeah

[00:09:19] There was no childhood

[00:09:20] Right

[00:09:20] There was all

[00:09:21] Like

[00:09:22] Every time

[00:09:23] I remember we used to

[00:09:24] Come back from school

[00:09:28] 233

[00:09:28] Bus stop

[00:09:29] And bus stop to

[00:09:31] The house that walk used to be like

[00:09:33] What will happen

[00:09:34] What will happen

[00:09:35] Aaj kya hai?

[00:09:35] Aaj kya

[00:09:36] And reach home

[00:09:37] And if dad is not there

[00:09:39] Oh my God

[00:09:39] He's not there

[00:09:40] Shut all the windows

[00:09:41] Shut all the windows

[00:09:42] Shut the doors

[00:09:43] Puri mohalla ko patata

[00:09:45] Everybody knew

[00:09:46] What is happening in this house

[00:09:48] Chhi

[00:09:49] Buz

[00:09:50] Monthly

[00:09:51] 500 rupees

[00:09:52] Mul nilta tha

[00:09:53] She's to give me 500

[00:09:54] She's to say jaa rashan liya

[00:09:55] Buz puri main ausi se tekaana jo bhi hai

[00:09:57] You have to figure that out

[00:10:00] So I was telling these group of friends of mine

[00:10:02] I just met them

[00:10:03] My school friends

[00:10:04] And they said JV didn't know

[00:10:05] I said yeah

[00:10:06] I said you know who I'm good

[00:10:07] No

[00:10:08] I said dude you know

[00:10:09] Because

[00:10:10] My parents put us in the best school in Jamshedpur

[00:10:13] That's one thing that they did

[00:10:15] All three of us have studied in very good schools

[00:10:18] So

[00:10:19] My friends were all from rich families

[00:10:21] Or good decent families

[00:10:23] You know

[00:10:25] I never celebrated my birthday

[00:10:27] I never made friends

[00:10:27] I never made thick friends

[00:10:29] Because I was scared

[00:10:29] So poohi gharaya jayate

[00:10:30] Aata tha

[00:10:31] Gharaya jayega

[00:10:32] And school may be

[00:10:33] You never celebrated

[00:10:34] School may never said anything

[00:10:35] So I was telling them this time

[00:10:36] Just about a week, two weeks ago

[00:10:38] I said you know I used to rush

[00:10:40] The interval, the lunch break

[00:10:43] Bell rings, I run away

[00:10:45] Because in my tiffin

[00:10:46] A roti

[00:10:47] With onion

[00:10:48] You know a dry roti with onion

[00:10:50] Or bread with

[00:10:52] Chini

[00:10:53] Shakkar in it

[00:10:54] So something like that

[00:10:55] I used to be embarrassed

[00:10:57] So I used to run

[00:10:59] I'm a very good school

[00:11:01] Sacred Heart Convent

[00:11:02] Very proud of it

[00:11:03] Okay touch board

[00:11:04] So yeah

[00:11:05] So primary section

[00:11:06] That there are a lot of plants and bushes

[00:11:09] Has to go hide behind it

[00:11:10] Quickly eat

[00:11:11] Come back and join the gang

[00:11:13] And ha ha ha

[00:11:15] But a very quiet child also

[00:11:18] However

[00:11:18] I think I always

[00:11:20] So mom used to

[00:11:22] Always push me and say

[00:11:23] Don't be like me

[00:11:24] She was only 10th pass

[00:11:26] So she would say you have to study

[00:11:28] So education peh zor tha bhoota

[00:11:29] Poora

[00:11:30] Ki you have to study because see

[00:11:32] If I would earn today

[00:11:34] I would not be in this situation

[00:11:36] Correct

[00:11:36] Yes

[00:11:36] You know

[00:11:37] Yeah

[00:11:37] So now I'm at the mercy of your dad

[00:11:39] She loved dad

[00:11:40] Just make sure whatever it is

[00:11:42] You have to educate yourself

[00:11:44] And you have to fend for yourself

[00:11:46] However rich you may be

[00:11:48] You may be married to the richest man in the world

[00:11:51] But you should be able to earn enough

[00:11:53] To stand up for yourself

[00:11:55] So financial literacy

[00:11:57] And the education

[00:11:58] I think those two

[00:11:59] She said ki ye

[00:12:00] Ki ye toh kar nahi

[00:12:01] Kar

[00:12:02] Ki put you in the right place

[00:12:03] Now just make

[00:12:04] Upkar

[00:12:05] Make best

[00:12:06] So that happened then

[00:12:07] Also I think somewhere

[00:12:09] I had my dad's ki da

[00:12:11] As I told you dad

[00:12:12] Very good

[00:12:14] At carpentry

[00:12:15] Very good at

[00:12:16] Stitching

[00:12:17] Very

[00:12:17] Very good cook

[00:12:18] Very creative

[00:12:19] Very creative

[00:12:21] All my science projects

[00:12:22] Once in a week if he would not be in his

[00:12:25] If you know those senses

[00:12:28] And I tell him that

[00:12:29] You know this is it

[00:12:30] He would just help me out

[00:12:32] And do like create a miracle

[00:12:34] Amazing

[00:12:34] He was and that's why I think

[00:12:35] The company kept him

[00:12:36] He would work only one day in a week

[00:12:38] But

[00:12:39] The rest of the days he's drinking

[00:12:42] Right

[00:12:42] But he was such a genius that

[00:12:44] They were

[00:12:46] He was there

[00:12:46] Nobody threw him out

[00:12:48] You know

[00:12:49] And

[00:12:50] So the other thing was that

[00:12:52] He always wanted to be

[00:12:54] Bang on

[00:12:55] You know like the best

[00:12:56] Perfect

[00:12:57] And

[00:12:58] I remember

[00:13:00] As to sing in school and college

[00:13:02] A

[00:13:03] Agar tum nahi hote vali

[00:13:04] Jo ek song

[00:13:05] He had played that about

[00:13:07] 100 times

[00:13:09] In his full

[00:13:11] Alcoholics date

[00:13:12] And made me write the lyrics

[00:13:15] And

[00:13:15] You know

[00:13:16] And

[00:13:17] Practice and practice

[00:13:18] And rehearse

[00:13:19] And rehearse till I got it

[00:13:20] Perfect

[00:13:21] Wow

[00:13:22] So he was invested in you

[00:13:24] Yes

[00:13:24] It's just

[00:13:25] I think he got caught up in alcoholism

[00:13:28] Fully

[00:13:28] Unfortunate

[00:13:29] Fully

[00:13:29] Cut to 2020

[00:13:31] To 2023

[00:13:32] Abhi toh hume pata hai ke mental health

[00:13:34] Is an agenda

[00:13:35] Yeah

[00:13:35] Everyone sapke gharome baat ho rahe

[00:13:37] Agar aaj aisa kuch hota hai na

[00:13:39] Toh pakada ja

[00:13:40] What jaldi se aap pakar leth waise

[00:13:42] Jeeze kisi

[00:13:43] Family member mein ho rahe hain

[00:13:45] It is just unfortunate to

[00:13:46] Stime pe nahin tha

[00:13:47] No time

[00:13:48] Yeah

[00:13:49] Mom would push me and say

[00:13:51] Participate in whatever

[00:13:52] So

[00:13:53] Elocutions

[00:13:55] Singing

[00:13:55] Dance

[00:13:57] Anything in everything

[00:13:58] I tried to excel

[00:13:59] Hmm

[00:14:00] So that

[00:14:01] You know

[00:14:02] And other times I was this quiet person

[00:14:04] At least you creatively were channelising your energies

[00:14:07] I was channelising your energies

[00:14:08] Toh wu process nahin kar pahre thi engage mein

[00:14:11] Creativity mein wo channelise your energy

[00:14:13] So that was really

[00:14:13] That was my coping mechanism

[00:14:15] Yeah

[00:14:16] I didn't want to continue

[00:14:18] My

[00:14:19] 11th standard there in Jumshepur

[00:14:22] Because

[00:14:23] I realised if I had to be a doctor

[00:14:25] For my 10th standard also

[00:14:26] I was studying in

[00:14:27] The servants quarters

[00:14:29] In their houses

[00:14:30] Because

[00:14:30] It was difficult to do

[00:14:32] It was ICSE and I couldn't

[00:14:34] You know

[00:14:34] Study in that environment

[00:14:37] So I said if I had to be a doctor

[00:14:40] I had to move out of this house

[00:14:42] And

[00:14:43] There was this constant

[00:14:45] Push also from the family

[00:14:46] That you have to be a doctor

[00:14:47] Yeah

[00:14:48] So

[00:14:49] I put my foot down

[00:14:50] And I told dad and mom that

[00:14:52] Listen

[00:14:53] You know

[00:14:54] I have to get out of here

[00:14:56] And those days a lot of

[00:14:57] People from Jumshepur

[00:14:59] Were either going to Pune

[00:15:00] Or they were going to Delhi

[00:15:02] So

[00:15:03] Pune was a better option

[00:15:05] Because dad's company Indian Cables

[00:15:07] They had a branch in Pune

[00:15:10] And so he had a lot of friends

[00:15:11] In Pune

[00:15:13] So

[00:15:13] He said okay

[00:15:15] You know

[00:15:15] These people can be your local guardians

[00:15:17] And

[00:15:19] That's how I landed up in Pune

[00:15:20] Pune

[00:15:21] Yeah

[00:15:21] Lovely

[00:15:23] Again

[00:15:23] It was difficult but

[00:15:27] Yeah

[00:15:28] But you know

[00:15:29] The focus was there

[00:15:29] The focus was there

[00:15:30] I ended up with

[00:15:31] Three

[00:15:32] Amazing friends

[00:15:33] Lovely

[00:15:34] Amazing

[00:15:35] I mean we're still the best of friends

[00:15:37] They have pampered me to another level

[00:15:39] Yeah

[00:15:40] Which I

[00:15:41] For 16 years

[00:15:42] When I was 15-16 years old

[00:15:43] I never met them

[00:15:44] They gave me

[00:15:45] They gave me

[00:15:45] Absolutely

[00:15:46] I had a friend

[00:15:48] Who used to give me fruits every day

[00:15:49] Oh, so sweet

[00:15:50] And one

[00:15:51] In today's date

[00:15:52] He was my

[00:15:53] One of my witnesses

[00:15:55] For my

[00:15:56] Runaway wedding

[00:15:57] I had a Bollywood marriage

[00:15:58] Oh

[00:16:00] It's very colourful

[00:16:01] My life story

[00:16:03] So

[00:16:04] I then I had another friend

[00:16:06] She is a radiologist

[00:16:08] Now in Lokhandwala

[00:16:09] Okay

[00:16:09] Sejal

[00:16:10] She

[00:16:11] For the first time in my life

[00:16:13] Introduced me to Black Forest

[00:16:14] Pastry

[00:16:16] And oh my God

[00:16:17] It was divine for me

[00:16:18] Because I had never eaten such kind of things

[00:16:20] Yeah

[00:16:20] And then

[00:16:21] Those memories will be vivid

[00:16:23] You remember everything

[00:16:25] Oh my God

[00:16:25] I remember the journey

[00:16:26] I remember how we used to go to that show

[00:16:29] And then she would buy that for me

[00:16:31] The first six months were difficult

[00:16:33] I was in a dormitory

[00:16:34] No food

[00:16:36] Sometimes I remember

[00:16:36] I would get up and

[00:16:37] Take out food

[00:16:39] Throne in the dustbin and eat

[00:16:41] So

[00:16:41] Those were the first six months

[00:16:42] Of my 11th grade

[00:16:44] Then I got into the Ferguson hostel

[00:16:46] Okay

[00:16:47] Where I met these people

[00:16:48] Okay

[00:16:48] They were like my angels

[00:16:50] Okay

[00:16:50] And

[00:16:52] Suddenly

[00:16:52] I'll tell you

[00:16:53] From that

[00:16:54] Closed person

[00:16:55] I became like a catapult

[00:16:56] I became this butterfly

[00:16:57] You've discovered a new person within you

[00:17:00] I discovered a new person

[00:17:02] Amazing

[00:17:03] You know and I

[00:17:04] How environment changes us

[00:17:05] Completely

[00:17:06] And

[00:17:07] None of these friends

[00:17:08] I never told them all of my

[00:17:09] Childhood thing

[00:17:11] I was like

[00:17:11] Come on, let's go

[00:17:12] And

[00:17:13] So they would call me

[00:17:14] Goondi and this and that

[00:17:16] See I was an ICSE

[00:17:17] Topper

[00:17:18] One of the toppers

[00:17:19] Okay

[00:17:19] So HSE was nothing for me

[00:17:21] It was cakewalk

[00:17:22] Correct

[00:17:23] So obviously I was Goondi

[00:17:24] Because you know all this

[00:17:25] You know all this

[00:17:26] Yes, tell me more

[00:17:26] But let me do other things

[00:17:28] Let me

[00:17:28] So 11th

[00:17:29] No

[00:17:30] 12th standard final exams

[00:17:32] I'm singing on stage

[00:17:33] And this sajal

[00:17:34] This friend of mine who is a radiologist

[00:17:36] She is panicking Gauri

[00:17:38] Who's now in Seattle

[00:17:39] She's panicking

[00:17:40] You know

[00:17:41] She's not studying

[00:17:42] She's not studying

[00:17:43] But I was like

[00:17:45] She's practicing in Buddhism

[00:17:47] She's singing

[00:17:48] She's doing this

[00:17:49] But

[00:17:50] See for me it was easy

[00:17:51] Because I had studied so much

[00:17:53] Yes

[00:17:53] Yeah

[00:17:54] So it was very simple HSE

[00:17:56] So I had the most amazing two years of my life

[00:18:00] Or one and a half years of my life

[00:18:02] Thanks to these friends

[00:18:04] Gauri is now in Seattle

[00:18:06] Malte is in New York

[00:18:07] Okay

[00:18:08] And Sejal is of course here

[00:18:09] Manish is here

[00:18:10] Okay

[00:18:10] So five of them

[00:18:12] Really pampered me

[00:18:13] I don't know how I found

[00:18:14] God sent them to me

[00:18:15] Yeah, absolutely

[00:18:16] And

[00:18:16] There must be some connection

[00:18:17] There must be some connection

[00:18:18] You know

[00:18:19] And

[00:18:20] Although

[00:18:20] Like we were all in the same class

[00:18:23] And everything

[00:18:24] They really took care of me

[00:18:25] They pampered me

[00:18:27] They took care of me

[00:18:28] And they don't know what history is

[00:18:30] They don't know anything

[00:18:31] They know that

[00:18:33] They will be shocked if they hear this

[00:18:35] Because I didn't know it until today

[00:18:36] Oh my God

[00:18:38] Okay

[00:18:39] So I wanted that to be a close chapter in my life

[00:18:42] I never spoke about it ever

[00:18:43] Again

[00:18:44] I think my only friend

[00:18:46] One friend of mine who's now in London

[00:18:48] She knew

[00:18:49] Okay

[00:18:49] And she knew maybe when I was in the 9th or 10th

[00:18:52] And not so much

[00:18:53] She knew a little bit

[00:18:54] Right

[00:18:54] Because I was very close to her dad

[00:18:55] Right

[00:18:56] He passed away but

[00:18:57] Yeah

[00:18:58] I was very fond of him

[00:19:00] So

[00:19:01] So yeah my 11th and 12th went like that

[00:19:04] Yeah

[00:19:05] Then

[00:19:06] Medical school

[00:19:07] I mean of course

[00:19:08] Studied

[00:19:09] Got into it

[00:19:11] My grand

[00:19:12] My nana ji

[00:19:13] You know

[00:19:14] But dad didn't have money to pay

[00:19:15] So

[00:19:16] 30,000

[00:19:17] So my nana said

[00:19:18] Okay this is what I have kept for your mother

[00:19:20] So I will give it to you

[00:19:22] So he gave

[00:19:23] Right

[00:19:24] The entire whatever

[00:19:25] Rufi

[00:19:25] Rufi

[00:19:26] Rufi eva gara

[00:19:28] Luckily

[00:19:28] You know those days

[00:19:29] It was not so expensive

[00:19:31] Although for us it was expensive

[00:19:33] But I think the semester fee was some

[00:19:36] Or

[00:19:37] Per year fee was 6000 rupees or something

[00:19:39] So compared to today

[00:19:40] Government college

[00:19:40] Correct

[00:19:41] It's not a private college

[00:19:42] So it was not difficult

[00:19:44] For my parents

[00:19:48] And so life

[00:19:49] Yeah

[00:19:50] So then you know

[00:19:50] Again back to

[00:19:52] Med school was again

[00:19:53] Like the quiet jay shree

[00:19:54] Because I had to study

[00:19:55] You returned back to your

[00:19:56] I returned back

[00:19:57] Because I had to study

[00:19:58] I had to put in all my effort

[00:19:59] I had to

[00:20:00] Make sure I did well

[00:20:03] So all of that happened

[00:20:06] Met my husband

[00:20:07] Yeah

[00:20:08] You know yeah

[00:20:08] He was my senior by four years

[00:20:10] Okay

[00:20:12] In all of this dad's journey continued back home

[00:20:16] And

[00:20:17] I was out of it

[00:20:19] 97

[00:20:19] 95

[00:20:20] I got married

[00:20:21] Are you got married?

[00:20:22] Bhake

[00:20:22] Bhake

[00:20:23] So what happened was

[00:20:25] I'm a Telugu

[00:20:26] Non-vegetarian

[00:20:28] Yes

[00:20:28] My in my husband's a Marwadi

[00:20:30] Yeah

[00:20:31] Sharma

[00:20:31] Pandit

[00:20:32] Got it

[00:20:33] Vegetarian

[00:20:33] They don't even go to

[00:20:34] Restaurants where

[00:20:36] Onion

[00:20:36] They have

[00:20:37] Yeah they have

[00:20:38] Non-veg food or

[00:20:39] Things like that

[00:20:40] So strict

[00:20:41] Cake may be egg

[00:20:42] Ne hona chayy

[00:20:42] Absolutely

[00:20:43] All of that

[00:20:44] Gungat

[00:20:44] If you go back to Rajasthan

[00:20:46] Proper moments

[00:20:48] Yeah

[00:20:48] So

[00:20:50] Very difficult

[00:20:51] You know

[00:20:52] It's not like today

[00:20:53] Today's day and age is so easy

[00:20:55] Nobody thinks about

[00:20:56] You're from North, South East

[00:20:58] West, right?

[00:21:00] So it was very very difficult

[00:21:02] So my husband by then had finished

[00:21:03] He had come to Bombay

[00:21:04] He was working here

[00:21:06] And then

[00:21:06] I was

[00:21:07] In my final year there

[00:21:09] So just after my exams

[00:21:11] He said you know

[00:21:11] It's getting very difficult

[00:21:12] And my parents are really like

[00:21:15] Seeing girls for me and

[00:21:18] Whatever

[00:21:18] And you know

[00:21:19] Daori mil reyay

[00:21:20] Yeah

[00:21:20] Misra, Rajasthan mil reyay

[00:21:22] And all of that was happening

[00:21:23] Pura pakhe jay

[00:21:24] Pudra pura

[00:21:25] So

[00:21:27] I'm like

[00:21:27] How do I deal with this?

[00:21:29] Because my parents

[00:21:30] And

[00:21:31] His parents were ready

[00:21:32] But they wanted a very elaborate

[00:21:33] Lavish wedding

[00:21:36] Not lavish but a nice

[00:21:37] Nice wedding

[00:21:38] And they were not wrong

[00:21:39] Yeah

[00:21:40] They were also from a different

[00:21:42] Culture

[00:21:42] Only son

[00:21:44] One daughter

[00:21:44] So they were not wrong

[00:21:46] But

[00:21:47] Where will my parents get money from?

[00:21:49] Yeah

[00:21:49] Where

[00:21:49] Yeah

[00:21:50] So I'm like

[00:21:51] So I said

[00:21:51] Listen

[00:21:52] Dude

[00:21:52] I think you

[00:21:53] Go get married

[00:21:54] Because

[00:21:55] I can't deal with all this

[00:21:56] My parents won't be able to get us

[00:21:58] Married

[00:21:58] Yeah

[00:22:00] So

[00:22:00] He said

[00:22:01] Chalo

[00:22:02] Court marriage kar lette

[00:22:04] Acha

[00:22:05] Haan

[00:22:06] Thank God at that time

[00:22:07] I was so young

[00:22:08] 20 right

[00:22:10] But 24 ki u rathin hi garti

[00:22:12] Because then I would have thought

[00:22:14] Ki baise kar kese chala nahi

[00:22:16] Yeh kese kar

[00:22:17] So uswak to sif

[00:22:18] You are so deep in love

[00:22:20] Yes

[00:22:21] You want to be together

[00:22:22] Or nothing else

[00:22:23] You just want

[00:22:23] Him

[00:22:24] You want to spend the rest of your life

[00:22:26] So aaj bola

[00:22:26] Court marriage karthe haan

[00:22:27] Aach chaldeer ke

[00:22:28] So then he said next

[00:22:30] Next

[00:22:30] You know just after exams right

[00:22:32] Okay

[00:22:32] So he said now

[00:22:34] May abhi aaja

[00:22:35] In

[00:22:36] Two weeks

[00:22:37] Like whatever

[00:22:37] May

[00:22:38] 29th I came to Bombay

[00:22:40] I stayed in his

[00:22:41] At his friends place

[00:22:42] She's an off-thalmologist

[00:22:43] Her husband is an orthopedic surgeon

[00:22:45] Stayed there

[00:22:46] Went to Thana court

[00:22:47] Signed

[00:22:48] So planned wedding

[00:22:49] Yeh bahag ke tu kuch nahi

[00:22:50] Kisi bhi gati

[00:22:51] Bahag ke aise hotan aise haath pakar ke

[00:22:53] Ha nahi, baise nahi

[00:22:54] Baise nahi

[00:22:55] Malak baise nahi

[00:22:56] But

[00:22:57] Sort of parents didn't know

[00:22:58] Ha okay

[00:22:59] Understood

[00:22:59] Nobody knew

[00:23:01] Vaise I quietly came

[00:23:02] Didn't tell my friends there in

[00:23:04] College in

[00:23:05] You know in Sevagram

[00:23:06] Came here

[00:23:08] Stayed in these people's house went

[00:23:09] Then went to

[00:23:10] Matunga and bought a

[00:23:12] Wedding ring

[00:23:14] Chotasasasthasa

[00:23:14] Whatever

[00:23:15] Bought a saree

[00:23:16] And

[00:23:17] Here also there's a double bull

[00:23:18] Kerkik brand work harta tha

[00:23:20] Achha

[00:23:20] Bought a

[00:23:21] Suit for him from there

[00:23:23] And then I went back

[00:23:24] And a month later I came back

[00:23:26] And I told you this friend of mine Manish

[00:23:28] And

[00:23:28] Some of his friends

[00:23:30] They came

[00:23:31] Thana court

[00:23:32] Exchange garlands signed

[00:23:34] And then I got back

[00:23:35] We went to Alibaagana scooter

[00:23:36] For two days

[00:23:38] Honeymoon

[00:23:38] So sweet

[00:23:39] And then we came back and put me

[00:23:41] He put me on the second class train

[00:23:43] To Kurla

[00:23:44] At Kurla

[00:23:45] Kurla station say

[00:23:46] Yeah

[00:23:46] Back to

[00:23:48] Sevagram

[00:23:49] Achha

[00:23:49] Then I stayed for a month till

[00:23:51] You know I

[00:23:52] He figured out my internship in JJ

[00:23:54] And all of that came back

[00:23:55] Okay

[00:23:56] And then

[00:23:58] Yeah

[00:23:58] And then that's how

[00:23:59] Then I continued working in JJ

[00:24:00] And

[00:24:01] Like began

[00:24:02] Okay

[00:24:02] Then

[00:24:03] My mom had a stroke

[00:24:05] And

[00:24:07] By then dad had lost his job

[00:24:08] Okay

[00:24:09] And so they were living with my

[00:24:10] Grandparents

[00:24:11] Okay

[00:24:12] They have

[00:24:13] Injamshetpur

[00:24:13] Injamshetpur

[00:24:14] Okay

[00:24:14] So they were like in the upper

[00:24:16] They had four floors

[00:24:17] So

[00:24:18] On top most floor there was one room

[00:24:19] So she gave it to mom

[00:24:21] So she had her own small kitchen

[00:24:22] There and whatever

[00:24:23] So one day

[00:24:25] She had a stroke

[00:24:26] Okay

[00:24:26] And

[00:24:27] I was at that time in Nanavati Hospital

[00:24:30] Studying

[00:24:31] To

[00:24:32] Beatrix the one

[00:24:33] I told you the story

[00:24:34] Correct yeah

[00:24:35] There was no scope

[00:24:35] Because of me

[00:24:36] Coming from Nagpur University

[00:24:39] So I was studying to be a

[00:24:41] Physician

[00:24:41] Okay

[00:24:42] Medicine

[00:24:43] DNB medicine

[00:24:43] Okay

[00:24:44] Yeah

[00:24:44] And then this happened

[00:24:47] So I rushed

[00:24:48] And

[00:24:50] I was in that field

[00:24:51] I was doing medicine

[00:24:52] I was in the ICU

[00:24:53] Correct yeah

[00:24:53] Yeah

[00:24:54] So I figured that

[00:24:55] Something's not right here

[00:24:56] Okay

[00:24:57] So after two days

[00:24:58] She was in coma already for a week

[00:24:59] By the time I went

[00:25:01] At home

[00:25:02] No

[00:25:02] In the hospital

[00:25:03] You took her to the hospital

[00:25:04] Yeah

[00:25:04] And then

[00:25:05] I figured it was not

[00:25:06] Something was not right

[00:25:08] So then moved her to another hospital

[00:25:10] You know and

[00:25:11] Then stayed back

[00:25:12] Stayed back for a couple of months

[00:25:15] By God's grace in 15 days

[00:25:17] She was out of coma

[00:25:19] Lovely

[00:25:19] And

[00:25:21] Then all the physiotherapy

[00:25:22] Because she was paralyzed

[00:25:23] You know

[00:25:23] On one side

[00:25:25] So all of that

[00:25:27] And in all this

[00:25:28] Somebody needs to make you realize

[00:25:30] And look at it from

[00:25:31] As you said

[00:25:32] From the other angle

[00:25:33] Because you're so

[00:25:35] Bias and judgmental

[00:25:37] Because from your

[00:25:38] Childhood you are

[00:25:39] Yes

[00:25:40] You feel as if you're a victim

[00:25:41] Your mind cannot take you out

[00:25:43] At that time

[00:25:43] It has to be third person

[00:25:44] And for us it was not

[00:25:46] Because everybody blamed dad

[00:25:48] Yes

[00:25:48] Because you

[00:25:49] Because everybody said

[00:25:51] Exactly

[00:25:52] For Wilanpur

[00:25:52] Because mom was stressed

[00:25:54] She got the stroke

[00:25:55] And why was she stressed

[00:25:56] Because of him

[00:25:57] But who took care of him?

[00:25:59] Nobody

[00:26:00] He had his own struggles

[00:26:01] Besides

[00:26:02] He had all his struggles

[00:26:04] After doing landmarks

[00:26:05] They make you talk

[00:26:06] And then on the second day

[00:26:08] It's a two and three and a half

[00:26:10] Day thing

[00:26:11] They make you talk to the person

[00:26:13] You've never spoken in

[00:26:14] You want to open up to

[00:26:15] Any stranger

[00:26:16] Anybody

[00:26:17] Anybody

[00:26:18] You have an issue with

[00:26:19] So they

[00:26:20] With the person

[00:26:21] You have an issue with

[00:26:22] Yeah

[00:26:22] So they'll give you a break

[00:26:24] And then they'll say

[00:26:25] Okay, this is your one hour break

[00:26:26] Go make a phone call

[00:26:28] Okay

[00:26:28] Who the person

[00:26:29] Who you've had an issue with

[00:26:31] Understood

[00:26:32] So I made a phone call

[00:26:33] I called my dad

[00:26:35] And

[00:26:36] You know like

[00:26:37] How the emotions

[00:26:38] Because the whole day

[00:26:39] They've made you right

[00:26:40] Right

[00:26:40] Right

[00:26:40] Exercise

[00:26:41] And all of this came out

[00:26:42] The whole went

[00:26:43] Went out

[00:26:44] Yeah

[00:26:44] So the whole thing

[00:26:46] And dad cried

[00:26:47] I cried

[00:26:48] All that happened on phone

[00:26:50] And then I went back home

[00:26:51] And you know

[00:26:53] Whatever

[00:26:53] And sort of

[00:26:54] That's when broke the ice

[00:26:57] That's when I

[00:26:57] So in that landmark

[00:26:59] I realized that here

[00:27:01] Dad never remarried

[00:27:04] Right

[00:27:05] He

[00:27:06] Never

[00:27:08] Did anything wrong to my mom

[00:27:10] When he was in his proper

[00:27:11] 100% senses

[00:27:12] He loved her

[00:27:13] Yeah

[00:27:14] Yeah

[00:27:14] Right

[00:27:16] And

[00:27:17] Even when he was with us

[00:27:19] I mean

[00:27:20] He

[00:27:20] You know

[00:27:21] Mom passed away and

[00:27:23] We've not

[00:27:24] Sort of

[00:27:25] Treated him the way

[00:27:26] We should have treated him

[00:27:27] Yeah

[00:27:27] So we

[00:27:28] I mean from a culprit

[00:27:29] We've also sort of alienated him

[00:27:31] Yes

[00:27:31] You know

[00:27:32] Correct

[00:27:33] You're a culprit

[00:27:33] But I think for the first time

[00:27:35] Maybe you saw him as a victim

[00:27:36] Yeah

[00:27:37] Right

[00:27:37] So that shift happened

[00:27:38] So that shift happened with landmark

[00:27:39] And I'm so grateful to Gary

[00:27:41] So you saw him from

[00:27:42] From a different

[00:27:43] Yeah

[00:27:43] Filter altogether

[00:27:44] Yeah

[00:27:45] He could be a victim

[00:27:46] He's the victim

[00:27:47] Hmm

[00:27:48] You know

[00:27:49] I felt guilty

[00:27:50] Sorry

[00:27:50] I felt so guilty

[00:27:52] That

[00:27:54] He is

[00:27:54] You know

[00:27:55] Deprived of our love also

[00:27:56] Deprived of our love

[00:27:57] Hmm

[00:27:59] Amazing

[00:27:59] How these courses work on your mind

[00:28:01] They are amazing

[00:28:02] These retreats

[00:28:03] Because

[00:28:04] Those

[00:28:06] Those

[00:28:07] Mind filters

[00:28:08] Lot of things

[00:28:09] And the thought comes out

[00:28:10] And then you realize

[00:28:11] That we are not looking at reality as is

[00:28:13] You know in meditation

[00:28:14] And in all spirituality

[00:28:15] They keep saying

[00:28:16] That you

[00:28:17] Look at the way it is

[00:28:20] Not through your filters and glasses

[00:28:22] Which we keep wearing

[00:28:23] Yeah

[00:28:23] Of

[00:28:25] Beliefs

[00:28:26] Beliefs and

[00:28:27] Some of the layers of our mind

[00:28:29] We put them in

[00:28:30] The moment you took it off

[00:28:32] It's like

[00:28:32] This person is a normal person

[00:28:34] He's equally getting troubled

[00:28:36] Yeah

[00:28:37] He is obviously getting troubled

[00:28:40] I'm never speaking to him

[00:28:41] I'm taking him

[00:28:42] Okay

[00:28:42] My book launch has come

[00:28:44] You come

[00:28:45] You have come

[00:28:45] But

[00:28:46] You know that's all

[00:28:47] That there is

[00:28:48] There is no

[00:28:49] Sitting and having a nice conversation with dad

[00:28:51] Or telling him about

[00:28:53] What my dreams are

[00:28:55] Or

[00:28:55] By then

[00:28:56] I was already just about an achiever

[00:28:58] You know

[00:28:59] My first book has come out

[00:29:00] He must be very proud

[00:29:01] Super proud

[00:29:02] Super proud

[00:29:03] Did he express?

[00:29:04] Yeah

[00:29:04] Always

[00:29:05] After that

[00:29:06] So from that time onwards

[00:29:09] I lost him in 2018

[00:29:11] Okay

[00:29:12] So those five years were

[00:29:14] Beautiful

[00:29:15] Yeah

[00:29:16] Lot of bonding

[00:29:16] Yeah

[00:29:17] And he was completely off

[00:29:20] Absolutely

[00:29:21] I mean

[00:29:23] I lost dad

[00:29:24] He left in 2018

[00:29:26] But I did have the most amazing

[00:29:29] Time

[00:29:30] You know with him

[00:29:31] So 2006 to

[00:29:35] About 2013-14

[00:29:37] Yeah

[00:29:38] Okay

[00:29:39] I don't think my staff ever loved me

[00:29:41] Because I was only yelling at them

[00:29:43] Because

[00:29:43] My anger was at the tip of my nose

[00:29:46] I was so angry

[00:29:48] Till I made peace with my dad

[00:29:49] Till I found him

[00:29:51] Till I

[00:29:52] Could love him

[00:29:53] Hmm

[00:29:54] You know

[00:29:55] Then you settled down

[00:29:56] Then I settled down

[00:29:57] Then I became the best boss

[00:29:59] Yeah

[00:29:59] Yeah

[00:30:00] Then

[00:30:00] You know

[00:30:01] My staff loved me

[00:30:03] There are

[00:30:03] The girls in Vashi are there with me

[00:30:05] For 10-10 years now

[00:30:06] Lovely

[00:30:07] How many clinics do you have?

[00:30:09] I have two clinics

[00:30:09] Two clinics

[00:30:10] Yeah

[00:30:10] So one is in Vashi and one is in

[00:30:12] One is in Kharkar

[00:30:13] Yeah

[00:30:14] And when did celebrities started trickling in?

[00:30:17] Ah

[00:30:19] So that's another story

[00:30:20] So

[00:30:20] I told you I was like

[00:30:23] Very

[00:30:24] Very much into academics

[00:30:26] Hmm

[00:30:27] So after I finished my post graduation

[00:30:30] I joined Dr. Satish Savanta in

[00:30:32] Andheri

[00:30:33] Okay

[00:30:33] He's my mentor

[00:30:34] He's my guru

[00:30:35] He's the pioneer of Dermatose surgery in India

[00:30:38] Okay

[00:30:38] One of the pioneers

[00:30:40] And so I was very fortunate to have

[00:30:43] You know gotten a chance to work with him

[00:30:45] Yeah

[00:30:46] He mentored me four years

[00:30:49] 2000-2004

[00:30:51] Four and a half years

[00:30:52] 2004 August

[00:30:55] I used to come from Vashi

[00:30:56] I used to finish

[00:30:58] Going to two polyclinics in the morning

[00:30:59] And then go to MGM Hospital as a consultant

[00:31:02] Okay

[00:31:02] Then take a train from Vashi

[00:31:05] Change at Vadaala, reach Andheri

[00:31:06] Three o'clock

[00:31:07] And three to eight I used to be with him

[00:31:10] And I did that for four and a half years

[00:31:12] But I learned so much from him

[00:31:14] Yeah

[00:31:15] In those four and a half years

[00:31:17] And one thing that he always told me was

[00:31:20] Academically you have to be strong

[00:31:22] Don't get so

[00:31:24] Ingrossed in your private practice

[00:31:26] Okay

[00:31:26] You know

[00:31:27] So he pushed me

[00:31:28] Yeah

[00:31:29] He present papers at conferences

[00:31:31] Okay

[00:31:32] So then I started presenting papers

[00:31:35] Okay

[00:31:35] I was a good orator since childhood

[00:31:39] So that plus hard work

[00:31:42] Plus blessings of my boss

[00:31:44] My teacher used to help me a lot

[00:31:47] So then in 2004

[00:31:49] I got a scholarship

[00:31:50] I went to Bangkok

[00:31:52] Okay

[00:31:53] For a laser and aesthetic dermatology

[00:31:57] Okay

[00:31:57] You know fellowship

[00:31:58] So I was there in Ramachi Body University

[00:32:03] There too became the boss's favourite

[00:32:05] Professor Nevat Polnikorn

[00:32:07] He adored me

[00:32:09] So his students would go away at seven o'clock

[00:32:12] I used to stay at eleven

[00:32:13] Okay

[00:32:13] You know

[00:32:14] And he was a workaholic

[00:32:16] I would assist him

[00:32:17] Hmm

[00:32:17] So to the extent that later on

[00:32:20] When he did surgeries and all

[00:32:21] His students were outside

[00:32:22] I would become his main assistant

[00:32:24] Okay

[00:32:24] So that happened

[00:32:25] When I came back in 2006

[00:32:30] There was a conference in Hong Kong

[00:32:32] Okay

[00:32:32] So I came back with a radio frequency device

[00:32:35] Which people had not seen in India

[00:32:38] Okay

[00:32:38] And radio frequency skin tightening

[00:32:40] Was unheard of in India

[00:32:42] Correct

[00:32:42] Yes

[00:32:42] So I came back with that device

[00:32:44] Yeah

[00:32:45] I reached out to Dr

[00:32:46] So Dr. Savant

[00:32:48] Was the laser guy and the dermatosurgery guy

[00:32:51] Okay

[00:32:51] More dermatosurgery

[00:32:53] You know vitiligo surgery

[00:32:54] Acnes car surgery

[00:32:56] Okay

[00:32:56] You know and hair transplants

[00:32:58] Okay

[00:32:58] All of that

[00:32:59] Okay

[00:33:01] Whereas this was aesthetic

[00:33:03] Hmm

[00:33:03] So that was more invasive

[00:33:04] This is this is more

[00:33:05] Yeah this is more like

[00:33:06] Because I when I went to Bangkok

[00:33:07] I learnt fillers

[00:33:08] I learnt Botox

[00:33:09] And because it was not there in our curriculum

[00:33:12] This is 2003 and

[00:33:13] 2004

[00:33:13] 2004

[00:33:14] 2004

[00:33:14] Okay

[00:33:14] You know

[00:33:15] So I came back from there

[00:33:16] I learnt all of that

[00:33:18] Super excited

[00:33:19] Yeah

[00:33:19] I've got the best because I've got dermat

[00:33:21] I've got dermatosurgery from Savant sir

[00:33:23] I've got aesthetics from here

[00:33:25] Came back with this machine

[00:33:27] And started using it on people

[00:33:30] Then there was a conference in Hong Kong

[00:33:32] Hmm

[00:33:33] What is the kind of output you used to get on the machine?

[00:33:37] Good

[00:33:37] Tightness is so much

[00:33:38] There are more pores

[00:33:39] Yeah

[00:33:40] Basically it was all about tightening your skin

[00:33:42] Okay

[00:33:42] Radio frequency skin tightening

[00:33:44] Okay

[00:33:44] And

[00:33:45] You know

[00:33:46] Being the first one

[00:33:48] And introducing it in the Indian conferences

[00:33:50] Speaking

[00:33:51] Hmm

[00:33:52] You know all of that

[00:33:53] Hmm

[00:33:55] Because I had Dr. Savant's

[00:33:57] And

[00:33:57] Yeah

[00:33:58] You know

[00:33:58] And he was the pioneer

[00:34:00] I think they also

[00:34:02] Sort of when I would say

[00:34:03] Okay I have to present a paper

[00:34:05] They would say

[00:34:05] Savant's student would be good

[00:34:07] So I got an opportunity to speak

[00:34:09] Good

[00:34:09] At various Indian conferences

[00:34:11] Yes

[00:34:12] So

[00:34:13] And then

[00:34:14] You know

[00:34:14] Because I showed results

[00:34:16] Yeah

[00:34:16] And I spoke or whatever

[00:34:18] And I spoke a lot

[00:34:19] Not just on the device

[00:34:20] But chemical pills

[00:34:21] And whatever acne and whatever

[00:34:23] All these papers

[00:34:24] So 2006

[00:34:25] They called me to Hong Kong

[00:34:27] Hmm

[00:34:27] Professor Nivat

[00:34:29] My Bangkok professor

[00:34:30] He called me

[00:34:31] He said

[00:34:32] You know

[00:34:32] There is a contrast

[00:34:33] We want you to come and speak

[00:34:34] Okay

[00:34:35] We want an Indian perspective

[00:34:36] Okay

[00:34:37] So I went and I spoke

[00:34:39] Yeah

[00:34:39] And

[00:34:41] The audience loved it

[00:34:42] But there was this one doctor

[00:34:43] Hmm

[00:34:44] Who is considered the pioneer in lasers

[00:34:46] Okay

[00:34:47] And he stood up

[00:34:49] And he asked me a bunch of questions

[00:34:51] Yeah

[00:34:52] And I was not scared of him

[00:34:55] Okay

[00:34:56] Ideally people would have felt

[00:34:57] Oh my God

[00:34:58] Overwhelmed or

[00:34:59] Very overwhelmed and not

[00:35:01] So for me it didn't matter

[00:35:02] Because you are somebody in Hong Kong

[00:35:04] I am from India

[00:35:05] Correct

[00:35:05] I gave back

[00:35:06] Absolutely

[00:35:06] You know

[00:35:07] That I am right

[00:35:08] You are wrong

[00:35:10] Yeah

[00:35:11] And

[00:35:13] Okay

[00:35:13] It was late at night

[00:35:14] It was over

[00:35:15] Came back to India

[00:35:18] Then

[00:35:19] There was a

[00:35:20] There was a very

[00:35:21] She is a very very close friend of mine now

[00:35:24] So she

[00:35:26] Wanted a skin tightening treatment

[00:35:28] She went to this doctor in Hong Kong

[00:35:30] Okay

[00:35:30] And he said

[00:35:31] You know

[00:35:31] Why are you coming here

[00:35:33] And you need so many sessions

[00:35:34] Yeah

[00:35:35] Go to Mumbai

[00:35:37] There is Jayashree Sharad

[00:35:38] Go to her

[00:35:40] So she has tracked me down

[00:35:42] She was very high

[00:35:43] She is

[00:35:44] High profile

[00:35:45] Okay

[00:35:45] And

[00:35:47] I was a new Bombay

[00:35:48] Yeah

[00:35:48] So she has tracked me and said

[00:35:51] You know this doctor and

[00:35:52] Amazing

[00:35:53] Imagine I have argued with him

[00:35:54] And remember my wildest of dreams

[00:35:56] I wouldn't have imagined

[00:35:57] He will speak

[00:35:59] Good of me

[00:36:00] Because

[00:36:00] There was an audience of 3000

[00:36:02] And I am arguing with him

[00:36:03] And showing him down

[00:36:04] Wow

[00:36:05] You know

[00:36:06] But

[00:36:07] He has

[00:36:08] Yeah

[00:36:08] Recommended

[00:36:09] Obviously he is

[00:36:10] You left an impression

[00:36:10] You know

[00:36:11] Yeah

[00:36:11] So she has hunted

[00:36:13] And she said

[00:36:14] But I can't come to new Bombay

[00:36:16] Okay

[00:36:16] I am like

[00:36:17] But I am practicing in new Bombay

[00:36:18] Yeah

[00:36:19] Yeah

[00:36:19] So then

[00:36:20] I told my husband

[00:36:22] My husband said

[00:36:23] See

[00:36:24] You've learnt all of this

[00:36:25] Not one patient has come to you

[00:36:28] Saying I want Botox

[00:36:30] Six years of yours are gone

[00:36:31] Yeah

[00:36:32] Or he picked up a patient here

[00:36:33] You know

[00:36:33] You're getting somebody

[00:36:35] Not for Botox

[00:36:36] But for a device

[00:36:36] Yes

[00:36:37] Do something about it

[00:36:39] Millan Ghanaji was a friend

[00:36:41] Okay

[00:36:41] We met him

[00:36:42] At one of our

[00:36:43] You know we

[00:36:43] Sharad and I used to go to Alibagh

[00:36:45] Yeah

[00:36:47] All these Mathiran

[00:36:48] So we met him in Kandala

[00:36:50] Okay

[00:36:50] And Sharad and I were singing

[00:36:52] Both of us sing

[00:36:53] So we were doing on Taakshari

[00:36:54] And he was very fascinated

[00:36:56] Ki ye kohan sa chota kapal

[00:36:58] We were like

[00:36:58] Really looking very young

[00:36:59] If you see my

[00:37:00] Butch

[00:37:00] Those photographs

[00:37:01] Yeah

[00:37:01] So

[00:37:02] He came and he is also a very good singer

[00:37:05] Yeah

[00:37:05] So he actually came and

[00:37:07] You know

[00:37:08] Said

[00:37:09] We got friendly and

[00:37:10] So then the journey began

[00:37:12] We became friends

[00:37:13] His wife became my friend and all

[00:37:14] So then his

[00:37:15] They stayed in

[00:37:16] They live in Bandra East

[00:37:18] Okay

[00:37:19] So I

[00:37:21] Through him

[00:37:22] I knew of a gynecologist

[00:37:23] Okay

[00:37:23] And I knew she had a clinic in Bandra

[00:37:25] Okay

[00:37:26] So I spoke to

[00:37:27] I called him

[00:37:28] His wife

[00:37:28] Millan's wife

[00:37:29] Yeah

[00:37:30] I said yeah

[00:37:31] Should I ask her?

[00:37:32] Yeah

[00:37:32] She said

[00:37:33] Haan ask ask

[00:37:33] Kya

[00:37:34] You know

[00:37:34] I'll also speak to her

[00:37:35] Yeah

[00:37:35] So we spoke to her

[00:37:37] So Dr. Bela Kedia

[00:37:38] She said

[00:37:39] Hey, Jai Shea

[00:37:39] Don't sit in that clinic most of the time

[00:37:41] Three days in a week as it

[00:37:43] So you can come three days in a week

[00:37:45] Lovely

[00:37:46] Bandra East

[00:37:46] Chota Sa

[00:37:47] 300 square feet I think

[00:37:49] So I told this lady

[00:37:51] Can you come there?

[00:37:53] Bandra East

[00:37:53] So she said okay

[00:37:54] Hmm

[00:37:55] Okay

[00:37:56] And she was with the pulse patient

[00:37:57] She was my first

[00:37:59] So

[00:37:59] It was literally like

[00:38:01] Like a very tiny place

[00:38:03] And you had to cross it

[00:38:04] Little bit of a chawl area

[00:38:05] And reach that place

[00:38:07] But she has landed

[00:38:08] I have put the device in my Maruti

[00:38:10] 800

[00:38:11] And come

[00:38:12] Yeah

[00:38:13] And

[00:38:14] I'm very overwhelmed because I

[00:38:16] Don't know how to deal with rich people

[00:38:18] And people who carry bags

[00:38:20] You know

[00:38:21] I don't even know

[00:38:22] How to pronounce Louis Vettok

[00:38:25] Okay

[00:38:25] You know

[00:38:26] And I'm like

[00:38:27] How do I deal with you know

[00:38:28] Imagine my pressure

[00:38:31] Pressure

[00:38:32] But it's so simple

[00:38:32] You know

[00:38:33] Yeah

[00:38:33] Whatever

[00:38:34] And

[00:38:36] Anyway

[00:38:37] She was very sweet

[00:38:38] Yeah

[00:38:39] I did her treatment

[00:38:40] She was very happy

[00:38:43] Then she got me

[00:38:45] A lot of other people

[00:38:47] Who were from Bollywood

[00:38:48] So she recommended

[00:38:49] She recommended

[00:38:50] I still called her my angel

[00:38:51] So from there the journey began

[00:38:54] Hmm

[00:38:54] And then I gave another

[00:38:55] In 2010

[00:38:56] I gave another lecture in London

[00:38:58] At one of the conferences called FACE

[00:39:00] Okay

[00:39:01] And from there

[00:39:02] I think I made like another impression

[00:39:03] On a couple of those London doctors

[00:39:05] Okay

[00:39:05] And there was another actor

[00:39:07] Very big

[00:39:08] Okay

[00:39:08] Who was referred to me by one of the

[00:39:11] London doctors

[00:39:11] Okay

[00:39:12] So I got him

[00:39:13] Got it

[00:39:14] In 2010

[00:39:14] Got it

[00:39:15] So while I got a lot of

[00:39:18] Page 3 from her

[00:39:19] And a lot of

[00:39:20] Senior actors from her

[00:39:22] Yeah

[00:39:22] Yeah

[00:39:23] I got the younger lot from

[00:39:25] This guy

[00:39:26] This guy

[00:39:26] Okay

[00:39:27] So it was again I think

[00:39:28] That's why I go back to Dr. Savant

[00:39:30] Because he pushed me into

[00:39:32] Academics

[00:39:33] Serendipity

[00:39:33] And I go back to my dad

[00:39:35] Because and my mom

[00:39:36] Because you know

[00:39:37] They were like

[00:39:37] What I go

[00:39:38] What I go

[00:39:39] What I go

[00:39:40] And that stayed

[00:39:41] So one thing is linked to the other

[00:39:43] Yeah

[00:39:43] Very clearly

[00:39:45] And then the journey began

[00:39:46] So it was word of mouth

[00:39:47] Word of mouth

[00:39:48] Word of mouth

[00:39:48] Some of them have come out in the open

[00:39:50] Right

[00:39:51] And they speak about it

[00:39:52] Like Ranbir and family

[00:39:53] They did

[00:39:54] They did

[00:39:54] They were the most one of my closest friends

[00:39:56] Yeah

[00:39:57] So at my book launch last year

[00:40:00] They spoke about it

[00:40:01] Ranbir was very sweet

[00:40:02] He spoke about it

[00:40:03] Neetuji spoke about it

[00:40:04] Yeah

[00:40:05] Yeah

[00:40:05] Okay

[00:40:06] Now coming to

[00:40:07] You know

[00:40:09] With great power comes great responsibility

[00:40:11] Oh God

[00:40:12] And you know

[00:40:13] When I

[00:40:14] Before coming

[00:40:14] You know

[00:40:15] Into this conversation

[00:40:17] I kept telling myself

[00:40:18] That I come from the belief

[00:40:19] That beauty is in the soul

[00:40:23] And if your

[00:40:24] Mind and self are sorted

[00:40:26] It will show in your skin

[00:40:28] And

[00:40:30] And in my case

[00:40:32] Thankfully

[00:40:33] My genes are sorted as well

[00:40:34] But I felt the combination of these two

[00:40:37] Is going to make me save through

[00:40:38] Life

[00:40:39] Right

[00:40:40] And now with all this conversation

[00:40:41] Where normal people are also opting

[00:40:43] For fillers

[00:40:44] And botox

[00:40:46] And a lot of these interventions

[00:40:48] Mutated intervention

[00:40:49] If I can call

[00:40:51] What is the limit?

[00:40:53] And are

[00:40:54] People starting very early

[00:40:56] Are normal people like me

[00:40:58] And people sitting in this room

[00:41:00] Also opting for these interventions

[00:41:01] Oh of course

[00:41:02] Most certainly

[00:41:03] Yeah

[00:41:05] I

[00:41:06] There's nothing wrong

[00:41:07] Okay

[00:41:07] Right

[00:41:08] See what happens is

[00:41:09] Yes we have our genes

[00:41:10] We are beautiful

[00:41:12] Inside

[00:41:13] On the inside

[00:41:15] Our soul is beautiful

[00:41:16] But

[00:41:18] Just as every organ

[00:41:19] Of our body

[00:41:20] Deteriorates

[00:41:21] Or ages

[00:41:22] Not deteriorates

[00:41:23] I should say ages

[00:41:25] Our skin is also

[00:41:26] The largest organ of the body

[00:41:28] Correct

[00:41:28] That also ages

[00:41:29] Correct

[00:41:30] Right

[00:41:30] Now when you talk of the face

[00:41:33] Just let's talk of the face

[00:41:36] There is bone

[00:41:37] The skull first

[00:41:39] Yeah

[00:41:40] Coating the skull

[00:41:41] Is a thick layer of fat

[00:41:42] Hmm

[00:41:43] Then coating that

[00:41:44] Is a muscle layer

[00:41:46] Hmm

[00:41:46] Okay

[00:41:47] Then over the muscle

[00:41:49] There is again

[00:41:49] A little bit of fat

[00:41:50] And then over that

[00:41:52] There is skin

[00:41:52] Got it

[00:41:53] Right

[00:41:54] All of these will age

[00:41:56] They are all aging

[00:41:57] Just like bone

[00:41:58] You know

[00:42:00] Why do you take calcium?

[00:42:01] Vitamin D

[00:42:02] Right

[00:42:03] You have to make bone density

[00:42:04] To make it more

[00:42:04] Correct

[00:42:05] So the skull is also shrinking

[00:42:08] Got it

[00:42:09] So if your skull is shrinking

[00:42:10] And there are parts

[00:42:11] Which are getting resolved

[00:42:12] Yes

[00:42:13] The first thing that goes

[00:42:14] Is this and this

[00:42:15] This bone and this bone

[00:42:17] Which is why

[00:42:18] You start seeing a dent here

[00:42:19] Hmm

[00:42:20] A hollow here

[00:42:21] And a hollow here

[00:42:22] Yes

[00:42:22] This becomes deeper

[00:42:23] This eyebrow starts to droop

[00:42:25] Drops

[00:42:25] Yeah

[00:42:26] And this dent starts to appear

[00:42:28] We never had it in our childhood

[00:42:29] Correct

[00:42:30] The nose suddenly starts to droop down

[00:42:32] Correct

[00:42:32] It is not

[00:42:33] You know

[00:42:33] It is suddenly looking a little

[00:42:36] Yeah

[00:42:36] If you compare your images

[00:42:38] Yeah

[00:42:38] Your upper lip

[00:42:39] Suddenly starts to look thinner

[00:42:41] Yes

[00:42:41] Because it doesn't have support

[00:42:42] Yes

[00:42:43] The bone is going in

[00:42:44] The fat is getting resolved

[00:42:46] Yeah

[00:42:47] So now

[00:42:47] The muscle is getting thinner

[00:42:48] Yeah

[00:42:50] So the fat which is sitting on top of it

[00:42:52] Which is coming from what we eat

[00:42:53] Is sitting on top

[00:42:54] That fat

[00:42:55] And then in the skin

[00:42:56] The collagen is breaking down

[00:42:58] Hmm

[00:42:59] So that fat

[00:43:01] And that thin skin

[00:43:02] Doesn't have support

[00:43:03] Because your foundation is

[00:43:04] So

[00:43:04] It is getting crumbled

[00:43:06] It is getting crumbled

[00:43:07] It is getting crumbled

[00:43:07] So then everything is dropping down

[00:43:09] Saging

[00:43:10] Saging

[00:43:10] That is called saging

[00:43:12] Now how do you deal with saging

[00:43:14] Hmm

[00:43:14] If you don't do something about

[00:43:16] Because

[00:43:17] You may be very happy

[00:43:19] You may be all of that

[00:43:20] But if you are okay with it

[00:43:23] It's fine

[00:43:24] You accept it

[00:43:25] Yeah

[00:43:25] You're okay with it

[00:43:26] Yeah

[00:43:26] But if you want to look

[00:43:28] In today's day and age

[00:43:29] More youthful

[00:43:31] Yes

[00:43:31] Graceful

[00:43:32] Yes

[00:43:32] Age gracefully

[00:43:33] But youthfully is what I always see

[00:43:35] Yes

[00:43:35] So if you have the means

[00:43:38] Why not do it

[00:43:39] Right

[00:43:39] But

[00:43:41] Draw the line

[00:43:42] Draw the line

[00:43:42] What is that line

[00:43:43] You know

[00:43:44] So I think

[00:43:45] You should not

[00:43:47] I was just talking about

[00:43:48] Body dysmorphic disorders

[00:43:50] Yeah

[00:43:52] A couple of days back where

[00:43:53] You get so influenced by

[00:43:56] People around you

[00:43:58] By social media

[00:43:59] Yes

[00:44:00] By

[00:44:01] You know these influencers

[00:44:04] These days everything is about

[00:44:06] The Kardashians and

[00:44:07] Kylie Jenner and

[00:44:09] Bella Hadid and all of those

[00:44:11] And everybody wants to be like them

[00:44:13] Yes

[00:44:13] You know

[00:44:14] And

[00:44:15] If you are not

[00:44:17] Then you are not a part of that circle

[00:44:19] Oh you're not

[00:44:20] You know

[00:44:21] So you don't look a particular way

[00:44:25] Somebody messaged me today

[00:44:26] About the golden ratio

[00:44:28] That how

[00:44:29] You know

[00:44:30] The whole entire face is about

[00:44:32] Proportions and how

[00:44:33] This part of your face should be

[00:44:35] One is to 1.6

[00:44:36] And

[00:44:36] You know all of that

[00:44:38] Are we born like that?

[00:44:40] We're not born like that

[00:44:41] No no no

[00:44:41] Everybody has

[00:44:42] Every face is different

[00:44:43] Okay

[00:44:43] The most

[00:44:45] Of course

[00:44:46] The most stunning people have those

[00:44:49] You know that golden ratio

[00:44:51] Fits into your face

[00:44:52] But

[00:44:53] Everything is as you rightly said

[00:44:55] Is not about beauty on the outside

[00:44:57] You have to be beautiful here

[00:44:59] Yeah

[00:44:59] Like you said

[00:45:00] See we do

[00:45:02] This dentistry also

[00:45:03] Which is really big now

[00:45:04] And I

[00:45:05] Of course

[00:45:05] I was shocked when I went for my treatment

[00:45:08] It was just a root canal treatment

[00:45:10] And when my doctor told me

[00:45:13] He's also a celebrity dentist

[00:45:14] And he told me about

[00:45:16] What all is going on

[00:45:17] To the extent that

[00:45:17] They'll take all the teeth out

[00:45:20] Get the root canal done

[00:45:21] To get the right denture in

[00:45:22] And the kids as young as a

[00:45:24] 21 year old model

[00:45:26] 25 year old

[00:45:27] They are getting it done

[00:45:30] Just for that perfect smile

[00:45:32] Smile

[00:45:32] And then I keep asking myself

[00:45:34] You know

[00:45:36] There is

[00:45:37] One is medical

[00:45:39] Health

[00:45:41] You know

[00:45:42] Assistance

[00:45:42] The other is cosmetic

[00:45:44] Anesthetic

[00:45:45] Right

[00:45:45] Where do you draw the line

[00:45:46] Right

[00:45:47] Like people

[00:45:48] Curly hair can go for straightening

[00:45:50] Straighten hair

[00:45:50] That's also chemical use

[00:45:52] You can do a lot many things

[00:45:53] To accentuate your body

[00:45:55] And accentuate your beauty

[00:45:56] But anything which is about

[00:45:58] Injections going in

[00:45:59] Your skin

[00:46:00] There's always a sphere in a scare

[00:46:02] So

[00:46:03] Is it okay or not

[00:46:04] No

[00:46:05] So I'll tell you something

[00:46:06] These are very

[00:46:07] Highly researched molecules

[00:46:09] Okay

[00:46:10] They are safe

[00:46:11] Right

[00:46:12] But they are safe

[00:46:14] As long as you

[00:46:15] Use them right

[00:46:16] Correctly

[00:46:17] Right

[00:46:18] So

[00:46:19] Botox for example

[00:46:20] It's a trade name

[00:46:21] It's Abhiz allergens product

[00:46:23] It's actually botulinum toxin

[00:46:25] There is

[00:46:26] Disport

[00:46:26] There is

[00:46:27] You know there are so many other

[00:46:29] Formulations

[00:46:30] But

[00:46:31] They got lucky

[00:46:32] Because they were the first

[00:46:33] And so they called it botox

[00:46:35] So now botulinum toxin

[00:46:37] Is also given in a 10 year old

[00:46:38] For a cerebral palsy

[00:46:40] Okay

[00:46:41] It's given for cervical issues

[00:46:45] It's injected

[00:46:45] My husband uses it

[00:46:46] When he does hernia surgeries

[00:46:48] My husband is a gastrointestinal surgeon

[00:46:51] We use it for migraines

[00:46:52] Okay

[00:46:53] Right

[00:46:53] We use it for hyper-hydrosis

[00:46:55] Too much of sweating

[00:46:56] Of the palms and soles

[00:46:57] Which is not skin related

[00:46:58] Which is a neurological thing

[00:47:01] Sometimes

[00:47:02] So there are

[00:47:03] So botox actually is a medicine

[00:47:06] How was it discovered?

[00:47:09] Sadly Dr. Alastair Karuthar

[00:47:11] Just passed away

[00:47:13] You know he is

[00:47:14] He and his wife are the founders of botox

[00:47:16] Botulinum toxin

[00:47:17] So

[00:47:18] His wife is an ophthalmologist

[00:47:21] Dr. Jean

[00:47:22] Okay

[00:47:22] One of my mentors

[00:47:23] I was fortunate to learn from her personally

[00:47:25] So she

[00:47:27] You know was injecting

[00:47:29] Botox into her patients

[00:47:31] Who had blepharospasm

[00:47:32] Okay

[00:47:33] The paralysis of the lid

[00:47:34] Okay

[00:47:35] And they were all coming back to her

[00:47:37] Feeling very happy

[00:47:38] Saying our wrinkles have also disappeared

[00:47:40] Ah

[00:47:41] So then

[00:47:43] She

[00:47:44] Went home

[00:47:44] Spoke to her husband Alastair

[00:47:47] And said you guys are doing so many creams

[00:47:49] And nothing is happening with those creams

[00:47:51] And look at this

[00:47:52] And I think I found something

[00:47:53] Amazing

[00:47:55] And that's how together

[00:47:56] Then they started working on

[00:47:58] This whole botox concept

[00:48:00] Studying on more patients

[00:48:02] Trying it on different muscles

[00:48:04] And then

[00:48:06] Boom

[00:48:08] 1993-94 is when

[00:48:10] Finally it became

[00:48:12] A drug for cosmetic purposes also

[00:48:14] Correct

[00:48:15] Otherwise it was there

[00:48:16] Correct

[00:48:17] But it was there for medical things

[00:48:19] So you are saying that normal people

[00:48:21] Who are sitting in this room

[00:48:22] People come to your clinic

[00:48:24] And they say we have a lip job

[00:48:27] We have to do it

[00:48:28] Perfect

[00:48:29] I have to do the eyelid

[00:48:31] Cheeks

[00:48:32] There are two aspects to it

[00:48:34] One is correction

[00:48:36] And one is enhancement

[00:48:38] What's the difference

[00:48:39] So what's the difference

[00:48:40] So correction

[00:48:41] As I am aging

[00:48:42] My lip is becoming thinner

[00:48:45] So

[00:48:45] Lip gives you that character to your face

[00:48:47] My lips are giving me character

[00:48:49] Yeah

[00:48:50] Okay

[00:48:50] And my lips are becoming thinner with age

[00:48:53] It's affecting me

[00:48:53] It's affecting me

[00:48:54] So I can put in a little filler in the upper lip

[00:48:56] Because my upper lip is getting thinner

[00:48:58] Or my chin is regressing with age

[00:49:02] Right

[00:49:02] Or my under eyes are looking like deep hollows

[00:49:06] And I have slept for 10 hours

[00:49:08] And I am still looking like I am tired

[00:49:10] So then I need a little bit of help

[00:49:12] So I go and get a little filler done under my eye

[00:49:16] To look refreshed

[00:49:17] Or I do a little filler in my upper lip

[00:49:20] So not to overfill them

[00:49:23] But just to get my lip back to how I was

[00:49:26] Maybe 10 years ago

[00:49:27] Okay

[00:49:28] Is it a one time treatment?

[00:49:29] No, it's not

[00:49:30] It will last you for

[00:49:32] A lip thing will last you for about

[00:49:35] 8 months, 10 months, 1 year

[00:49:37] Okay

[00:49:37] Chin will last you for 2-3 years

[00:49:39] So just like straightening

[00:49:40] Here, straightening

[00:49:41] You have to do it once in 9 months

[00:49:42] You have to do it

[00:49:43] Yes, do it

[00:49:44] But it starts lasting longer when you keep doing it

[00:49:47] Okay

[00:49:47] So that is the thing

[00:49:49] Okay

[00:49:50] Your dermatologist or physician

[00:49:52] Should know where to put a full stop

[00:49:54] You will come back in a year and say

[00:49:56] Hey Jay, I think I need my 1 year is up

[00:49:59] And I have read and please do my under eye

[00:50:00] But you are looking as a doctor

[00:50:02] That is not necessary

[00:50:03] Not yet

[00:50:04] Come back after 6 months we will see

[00:50:07] That's our duty

[00:50:09] How many of us are actually doing that duty

[00:50:13] How many of us are saying

[00:50:14] Yes, it's been a year

[00:50:15] Let's fill it

[00:50:17] Can I be the candidate?

[00:50:19] Yeah

[00:50:19] So a lot of celebrities without naming them

[00:50:22] Right

[00:50:22] And especially female celebrities

[00:50:25] These days you see they are really puffed up

[00:50:28] They are

[00:50:29] Okay

[00:50:30] And their original beauty

[00:50:33] They have gone far away from there

[00:50:34] And they are trolling

[00:50:36] Yes

[00:50:36] Completely socializing

[00:50:38] Very good

[00:50:39] So the reason they were doing it

[00:50:41] That we don't want to enhance

[00:50:43] We want to look pretty

[00:50:44] We want to hold on to our beauty

[00:50:46] That is not happening

[00:50:47] They are trolling

[00:50:49] Which will help them to get affected

[00:50:54] Isn't it like backfiring?

[00:50:56] I think somewhere where you

[00:50:58] When it comes to them with your respect

[00:51:01] Somewhere there is an insecurity

[00:51:04] Because you don't want to age

[00:51:06] You don't want to look older

[00:51:09] Because then people

[00:51:10] The same people who are trolling you

[00:51:12] Will say, look she is looking so ugly

[00:51:14] So they will say

[00:51:16] People's work is ugly

[00:51:17] But they are so used to

[00:51:20] That kind of

[00:51:22] A lifestyle where everybody is looking up to them all the time

[00:51:26] That's somewhere we are all humans

[00:51:28] You don't want to then start

[00:51:31] Or maybe have people call you ugly

[00:51:34] So you start doing things

[00:51:36] From their perspective you are right

[00:51:38] And then your brain gets programmed

[00:51:41] And trust me I have had conversations with some people

[00:51:45] Where I have said listen

[00:51:46] I think we need to dissolve

[00:51:49] Or maybe we should put a full stop

[00:51:52] But they get it done in London

[00:51:54] Or they get it done wherever

[00:51:56] After you say no to them

[00:51:57] They would still go somewhere

[00:51:58] They will do it somewhere

[00:51:59] Because it's in their mind

[00:52:02] It does get affected

[00:52:03] It does affect

[00:52:04] And so that's why I always say

[00:52:08] That it's our responsibility

[00:52:10] As doctors

[00:52:12] To know where to draw the line

[00:52:14] And to make them understand

[00:52:16] Because the brain

[00:52:17] Some of them think they are looking lovely

[00:52:19] I am telling you

[00:52:20] Even if they get trolled

[00:52:23] So is it because

[00:52:24] The puffiness will reduce

[00:52:27] Over like weeks

[00:52:28] So at that time and they are coming out

[00:52:30] Under spotlight it just gets caught

[00:52:33] Very true

[00:52:34] That if you have done something today

[00:52:35] Suppose I do a lip filler today

[00:52:37] And I go as tomorrow

[00:52:39] My lips will be really swollen

[00:52:41] You know sometimes up to a week

[00:52:43] And after a week they will look like

[00:52:45] They haven't done anything

[00:52:47] Sometimes I have patients coming back and saying

[00:52:50] For one week they will keep calling me

[00:52:52] And saying oh I think you will be

[00:52:53] Dissolve doctor, dissolve doctor, dissolve

[00:52:55] It's so much of this

[00:52:56] After a week

[00:52:57] Ah it's all gone

[00:52:58] Will you do a little more

[00:53:00] So that

[00:53:01] So that's the time when you shouldn't

[00:53:03] Probably go out for whatever

[00:53:05] Events if you are a public figure

[00:53:06] So do these treatments where you have 15 days

[00:53:09] And you don't have to

[00:53:10] But otherwise accept it

[00:53:12] Okay

[00:53:13] But the other thing

[00:53:15] There's another flip side to it

[00:53:16] Where as I said

[00:53:17] That you are pumping in

[00:53:19] Now you have gone to the doctor as a patient

[00:53:21] With full blind faith in the doctor

[00:53:23] But the doctor either doesn't have a concept

[00:53:28] Or is not bothered

[00:53:30] Is just bothered about

[00:53:31] That let me finish this syringes

[00:53:34] Right

[00:53:35] There are a lot of people who don't have a qualification

[00:53:38] But they are doctors

[00:53:38] Do what they are doing

[00:53:40] So now you are not

[00:53:43] Probably not even a doctor

[00:53:44] But how can you do such an invasive

[00:53:47] I would say

[00:53:48] Everybody does

[00:53:49] They are doing it

[00:53:50] They are doing it

[00:53:51] Not just in our country

[00:53:52] Even in the US

[00:53:54] Even in Hale Street

[00:53:57] Okay

[00:53:57] In London

[00:53:58] Which is to be like the epitome of

[00:54:00] You know physicians

[00:54:01] The best physicians and all of that

[00:54:03] So of course in the US now

[00:54:05] The American Society of Derm Surgery

[00:54:07] Is trying to

[00:54:08] You know fight against it

[00:54:10] And you know figure it out and all

[00:54:13] But or sometimes

[00:54:15] Actually this is like art too

[00:54:17] Right

[00:54:18] So if you don't know the art

[00:54:20] And this reel that is doing the rounds

[00:54:22] Now about the golden ratio

[00:54:24] So if you

[00:54:25] Now there are lots of workshops

[00:54:28] Back in the day

[00:54:29] We didn't study

[00:54:29] I had to go to the

[00:54:31] To the US and to Bangkok

[00:54:33] To learn about fillers and buttocks

[00:54:35] But now we have enough of study

[00:54:37] But if the company which is selling

[00:54:39] A product has also gotten a doctor

[00:54:41] And the doctor is teaching you about

[00:54:42] The golden ratio

[00:54:44] And you don't have

[00:54:46] A concept of beauty

[00:54:47] You have learnt about the golden ratio

[00:54:50] So you will replicate that

[00:54:51] You will measure

[00:54:52] And you will replicate

[00:54:54] And so you will make every face look

[00:54:57] Similar

[00:54:58] That's where every face is looking similar

[00:55:00] Because you are doing that

[00:55:01] And this is exactly what I have talked about

[00:55:03] I have just

[00:55:04] Before coming here

[00:55:05] I told you I reached about

[00:55:06] A little earlier I reached

[00:55:08] So I sat and

[00:55:09] Because this girl sent this

[00:55:10] And said I am depressed doc

[00:55:12] I said I am making a reel

[00:55:13] I said send me that reel

[00:55:15] I will show it to you post

[00:55:16] I told her send me that reel

[00:55:18] I want to see it

[00:55:18] I saw it and I said

[00:55:20] Please don't go by this maths

[00:55:22] This is not your

[00:55:23] This is not your

[00:55:24] You know our face is unique

[00:55:27] Individuality is beauty

[00:55:29] Perfection is not beauty

[00:55:31] Lovely

[00:55:33] Individuality is beauty

[00:55:34] Perfection is not beauty

[00:55:35] It doesn't have to be symmetrical

[00:55:37] It doesn't have to be perfect

[00:55:39] You don't need to have

[00:55:41] Like a very sharp nose

[00:55:42] Or you know whatever

[00:55:43] Or big lips or these kind of eyes

[00:55:45] You can still be beautiful

[00:55:47] Just as you said

[00:55:48] Right enough in the beginning

[00:55:49] That there is beauty here

[00:55:51] There is a feeling

[00:55:52] With that I think connect

[00:55:54] You may be the most gorgeous

[00:55:56] Looking person in the world

[00:55:57] But if you open your mouth

[00:55:59] And you are not kind

[00:56:00] There it goes

[00:56:01] It's over

[00:56:02] Yeah

[00:56:03] It's over

[00:56:04] So basically sculpting beauty

[00:56:06] Is nice

[00:56:08] It's nice

[00:56:08] But only to the extent

[00:56:09] It accentuates

[00:56:10] What you want

[00:56:12] Rather than

[00:56:12] Makes you made up

[00:56:14] Makes you look very different

[00:56:15] From where you were

[00:56:16] Correct

[00:56:17] That's it

[00:56:18] I mean, who is this face

[00:56:19] You see

[00:56:20] Who is looking at me

[00:56:21] You know, from my mirror

[00:56:22] Sure

[00:56:23] So I mean

[00:56:23] I think my greatest fear

[00:56:25] Is that right

[00:56:25] You kind of relate to a face

[00:56:28] And face which all

[00:56:30] Resembles your siblings also

[00:56:32] Right

[00:56:32] You're carrying jeans like I said

[00:56:34] Right

[00:56:35] Suddenly if you have a prototype

[00:56:37] Face which is going on

[00:56:38] In the market right now

[00:56:39] With certain cheeks

[00:56:40] And a nose

[00:56:40] And a chin

[00:56:41] I have a friend

[00:56:42] Dr. Harris in London

[00:56:44] And he says

[00:56:45] You know, this is alienization

[00:56:46] He's like

[00:56:47] Stop alienizing people

[00:56:49] Absolutely

[00:56:50] And I think

[00:56:51] Much as I love

[00:56:53] And I teach fillers and Botox

[00:56:55] And I'm all over the world

[00:56:56] And I'm teaching

[00:56:57] But I also

[00:56:58] You know

[00:56:59] Know that okay

[00:57:01] Less is more

[00:57:02] And that's what I preach

[00:57:03] That less is more

[00:57:04] In the morning when you wake up

[00:57:06] You have healthy skin

[00:57:07] You have clear skin

[00:57:08] You look at yourself

[00:57:09] You feel happy about yourself

[00:57:10] You have one

[00:57:11] Little bit of close feet

[00:57:12] That's fine

[00:57:14] But it's something's nagging you

[00:57:15] And you want to

[00:57:16] Get it fixed

[00:57:17] It's okay to get it fixed

[00:57:18] It's okay

[00:57:19] You don't want to sag

[00:57:20] You want to do a little bit

[00:57:21] Of radio frequency

[00:57:22] A little bit of ultrasound therapy

[00:57:23] Yeah

[00:57:24] Some things you don't want that

[00:57:25] Siding

[00:57:27] That's wrong, right?

[00:57:29] They're not supposed to

[00:57:30] Yeah

[00:57:31] Also the type of devices

[00:57:33] No

[00:57:33] See there's a huge difference

[00:57:35] Between the quality

[00:57:38] It's like a nano and a

[00:57:39] Cosh

[00:57:40] Correct

[00:57:41] Right

[00:57:41] So

[00:57:42] That also people need to understand

[00:57:44] But does that help

[00:57:45] All those

[00:57:46] If you have really good devices

[00:57:48] They will help

[00:57:49] They will help

[00:57:50] They will help

[00:57:50] So

[00:57:51] You can't just

[00:57:52] That's also happening to fillers and

[00:57:55] Botox

[00:57:56] Because you have all these

[00:57:57] Very cheap other products

[00:57:58] Okay

[00:57:59] But then

[00:58:00] There is the scare

[00:58:01] Because you're putting it into your body

[00:58:02] And anything has gone wrong

[00:58:04] Injecting it

[00:58:04] Like really wrong

[00:58:06] You want me to tell you

[00:58:08] Yes

[00:58:09] Yes

[00:58:09] 96 cases of blindness

[00:58:13] Because fillers have gone wrong

[00:58:17] Okay

[00:58:17] Like fillers which were

[00:58:19] But close to the eye

[00:58:20] Or in the face

[00:58:20] Not in India

[00:58:21] Not in India

[00:58:22] They've been reported in the US

[00:58:25] But done by people who don't know how to do it

[00:58:28] Irreversible blindness

[00:58:30] Like

[00:58:30] Yes

[00:58:31] So it means that they're filled up somewhere

[00:58:33] So what happens is

[00:58:35] If I have

[00:58:35] So the face is connected

[00:58:37] Blood vessels are connected

[00:58:39] So if I have

[00:58:40] Put in a wrong product

[00:58:43] Right

[00:58:43] Which is not

[00:58:44] Every approved

[00:58:45] So it's gone everywhere in its optical

[00:58:47] Or if

[00:58:48] Yeah

[00:58:48] It's gone into the eye

[00:58:50] And so it's blocked the vessel

[00:58:52] And for those 72 hours

[00:58:54] If you've not been able to get it off

[00:58:57] Then your

[00:58:58] Your eye is deprived of

[00:59:00] Blood supply

[00:59:01] Supply

[00:59:02] And you've gotten blind

[00:59:03] So this area is the most sensitive right

[00:59:06] Because it's connected to the brain

[00:59:08] Like my sister had this issue

[00:59:10] Where one lid got swollen up

[00:59:13] Nothing to do with Botox

[00:59:15] But she had a stye

[00:59:17] Which became bad

[00:59:19] And the entire eye was swollen up

[00:59:21] Like a ball

[00:59:22] Right

[00:59:23] And then there was a scare

[00:59:25] Because it went on for a month

[00:59:27] Seven doctors

[00:59:28] Three cities

[00:59:29] And they said this is dangerous

[00:59:31] We need to now put you on IVs

[00:59:33] Because it's connected to your brain

[00:59:35] It's connected

[00:59:36] And she's fine now

[00:59:38] But it was a scare period

[00:59:39] So I was going to ask you that

[00:59:40] Yeah

[00:59:41] No

[00:59:41] So you've got to be very careful

[00:59:44] With whatever you do

[00:59:45] You know when it comes to

[00:59:46] The body per se

[00:59:48] And don't abuse

[00:59:49] And over abuse

[00:59:50] And when it comes to aesthetics

[00:59:54] Don't

[00:59:55] Don't follow others

[00:59:56] And don't become so obsessive

[00:59:58] About the way you look or the way

[01:00:01] It's nice to look

[01:00:03] Presentable

[01:00:03] Feel good about yourself

[01:00:05] Feel good about your body

[01:00:06] Feel

[01:00:06] But it's also

[01:00:09] You have to understand that

[01:00:11] It's not everything

[01:00:13] What is the difference

[01:00:15] Between fillers and botox

[01:00:17] So as I said filler

[01:00:18] Botox is a medicine

[01:00:20] It's a medicine

[01:00:20] You inject it

[01:00:21] Into a muscle

[01:00:22] It goes numb

[01:00:23] It relaxes the muscle

[01:00:25] Relaxes

[01:00:25] So then you can't move

[01:00:27] So I see like the forehead

[01:00:28] Becomes very like

[01:00:29] Calm

[01:00:30] So if you

[01:00:31] Yeah

[01:00:32] So if somebody's constantly frowning

[01:00:34] And has those frowning lines

[01:00:34] I got it after my son was born

[01:00:35] Because I had to scare him

[01:00:37] Yeah

[01:00:38] So then you can take

[01:00:39] A little bit of botox there

[01:00:40] To relax it

[01:00:41] Got it

[01:00:41] So then you don't frown

[01:00:43] Now if you use

[01:00:44] Say 24 units there

[01:00:47] Yeah

[01:00:47] Then you will absolutely

[01:00:48] Freeze this

[01:00:49] You can't frown at all

[01:00:50] But if you give little

[01:00:51] If I say give you

[01:00:53] 7-8 units

[01:00:54] Or 10 units

[01:00:55] 12 units over here

[01:00:57] Then you still be able to frown

[01:00:59] But it's not going to be

[01:01:01] That prominent

[01:01:02] Not crumpled

[01:01:02] Like before

[01:01:03] So that's the beauty of doing botox

[01:01:06] Because then you're not allowing

[01:01:07] That line to become permanent

[01:01:09] Understood

[01:01:09] You do it the right way

[01:01:10] That also needs

[01:01:11] 7 months, 8 months

[01:01:12] Refill

[01:01:13] No 4 months

[01:01:14] 4 months

[01:01:15] Botox is 4 months

[01:01:16] See so that's why

[01:01:17] Botox can never go wrong permanently

[01:01:21] Nothing can go wrong

[01:01:22] With botox permanently

[01:01:23] Because it lasts only

[01:01:25] For 4 months

[01:01:26] It's a medicine

[01:01:27] And filler

[01:01:28] What is it?

[01:01:29] Filler is a

[01:01:30] It's a product

[01:01:31] It's what we use

[01:01:32] In India as hyaluronic acid

[01:01:34] So you have these pre-filled

[01:01:35] Syringes of hyaluronic acid

[01:01:37] And they're filled into

[01:01:39] They're in creams

[01:01:40] Moisturizers

[01:01:41] Moisturizer

[01:01:42] Serum

[01:01:43] So the

[01:01:44] The cross-linking

[01:01:45] And the concentration is different

[01:01:46] So it comes like a heavy

[01:01:49] Jelly

[01:01:49] Like a jelly

[01:01:50] Okay

[01:01:51] And you inject it

[01:01:53] So under eye hollows

[01:01:54] Thin lips

[01:01:55] Chin defining

[01:01:56] Jawline definition

[01:01:58] Cheeks

[01:01:59] Okay

[01:02:00] Which

[01:02:01] You have to be very careful

[01:02:02] Why?

[01:02:03] Because you can't keep

[01:02:04] So I've seen people fill

[01:02:05] And fill

[01:02:06] Yeah

[01:02:06] Too patted

[01:02:07] You know, yeah

[01:02:08] You look like those pillow faces

[01:02:10] Correct

[01:02:10] So I just like

[01:02:11] Just to shift that entire piece

[01:02:13] That right now

[01:02:14] We're talking about

[01:02:14] Our skin tone

[01:02:15] And we're looking in the mirror

[01:02:16] There's also a digital avatar

[01:02:18] Who's going to be sitting

[01:02:19] And there'll be a digital footprint

[01:02:20] That avatar is going to create

[01:02:21] And that avatar

[01:02:22] Can look like anything

[01:02:23] Yeah

[01:02:24] Right?

[01:02:25] That is where

[01:02:26] The youngsters are going to get fascinated

[01:02:27] Yeah

[01:02:28] So Gen Alpha

[01:02:29] Gen Z

[01:02:30] They are hooked on

[01:02:31] Their mind is in that space

[01:02:32] Yeah

[01:02:32] So that's our generation

[01:02:34] So it's a completely different

[01:02:35] Different

[01:02:36] Yeah

[01:02:36] I'm taking care of this avatar

[01:02:38] I'm taking care of that

[01:02:39] Also I need to take care of

[01:02:40] And maybe that sort of finesse

[01:02:43] I want in real life as well

[01:02:45] Yeah

[01:02:45] I don't know if you are getting

[01:02:46] That

[01:02:47] No, no, I am

[01:02:48] The requirements from youngsters

[01:02:48] I am

[01:02:49] I am

[01:02:50] In fact, I was in

[01:02:51] Just Taiwan last week

[01:02:53] Just

[01:02:53] In fact came back

[01:02:54] Last

[01:02:54] Late

[01:02:55] Day before yesterday night

[01:02:57] And

[01:02:59] This girl

[01:02:59] Who was taking care of me

[01:03:01] She was like

[01:03:02] Sort of

[01:03:02] You know

[01:03:05] You had these volunteers

[01:03:06] Who were taking care of the

[01:03:07] Guest speakers

[01:03:08] And all

[01:03:09] 26 year old

[01:03:11] Has had every

[01:03:12] Every possible filler and

[01:03:14] Botox done

[01:03:14] Everything done

[01:03:15] Everything done

[01:03:15] So

[01:03:16] Just out of curiosity

[01:03:18] I asked her

[01:03:19] When did you start

[01:03:20] She said

[01:03:21] Oh, I got my nose

[01:03:22] Nose job as a

[01:03:23] Gift from my parents

[01:03:25] On my 20th birthday

[01:03:27] Taiwanese

[01:03:28] Yeah

[01:03:29] So

[01:03:29] It's a very normal thing

[01:03:31] And

[01:03:32] And it's like

[01:03:33] Oh, but you have to do Botox, right?

[01:03:35] Because otherwise you're going to look

[01:03:36] Very old, very soon

[01:03:37] So it's like preventative

[01:03:39] You know, preventative medicine

[01:03:41] I'm going to prevent

[01:03:44] Aging

[01:03:44] I'm going to prevent wrinkling

[01:03:46] But

[01:03:47] It all comes with a price

[01:03:49] How long

[01:03:50] Yeah

[01:03:51] How long

[01:03:52] Yeah

[01:03:53] You can't defy age

[01:03:54] Correct

[01:03:55] The mastermind

[01:03:56] Whoever has created us

[01:03:57] Yeah

[01:03:57] This body is such a

[01:03:59] Complex machine

[01:04:00] Nobody has been able

[01:04:01] To crack it even

[01:04:02] Till date

[01:04:03] Whatever illness is this

[01:04:05] That simple acne

[01:04:06] We don't have cure

[01:04:06] No

[01:04:07] Science has advanced everywhere

[01:04:09] But

[01:04:10] We don't have cure

[01:04:11] We have the best of medicine

[01:04:13] Last of calamity

[01:04:13] Cure

[01:04:14] Cure, no control

[01:04:15] Control

[01:04:17] Control is a lot of medicines

[01:04:19] Yeah

[01:04:19] A lot

[01:04:20] But will you be able to live

[01:04:21] For a lifetime?

[01:04:22] No

[01:04:24] Right

[01:04:24] So

[01:04:26] That is what we need to understand

[01:04:28] Balance

[01:04:28] Balance

[01:04:29] Where is balance

[01:04:30] Skin care

[01:04:30] People can get lost in this

[01:04:32] You can completely get lost

[01:04:34] You're totally obsessed with that

[01:04:35] Michael Jackson for example

[01:04:37] Was a classic case

[01:04:38] So, okay

[01:04:39] Very close to my heart

[01:04:41] I am very close to my heart also

[01:04:42] Okay

[01:04:42] I adore him

[01:04:43] For years I have applied

[01:04:44] After he passed away

[01:04:45] Yeah

[01:04:46] But his case was a very sad case

[01:04:48] Because A. he suffered from

[01:04:50] Vigiligo

[01:04:50] Okay

[01:04:51] He had Luka Dhamma

[01:04:52] So he used to wear that

[01:04:54] Glove to cover his hand

[01:04:55] Which was full of Luka Dhamma

[01:04:56] And then gradually

[01:04:58] He started

[01:04:58] The doctors started medicating him

[01:05:00] In such a way

[01:05:01] That you depigment the body

[01:05:03] There are medicines

[01:05:04] Which can depigment your body

[01:05:05] So that is his reason

[01:05:07] It was not that he was a black

[01:05:09] And he wanted to be white

[01:05:10] Okay

[01:05:11] It was Vigiligo

[01:05:12] Which he wanted to

[01:05:13] Okay

[01:05:14] Depigmentation

[01:05:14] He wanted to hide

[01:05:16] Because

[01:05:16] You know Luka Dhamma

[01:05:17] Even in India has considered

[01:05:18] And he's a performer

[01:05:18] He's in entertainment

[01:05:19] So obviously

[01:05:20] That

[01:05:21] His nose

[01:05:22] The first nose job

[01:05:24] Went completely wrong

[01:05:25] Yeah

[01:05:27] And then

[01:05:28] And then

[01:05:29] And then

[01:05:29] Corrected it

[01:05:29] Corrected it

[01:05:30] Could never be corrected

[01:05:32] Till the time that he had to wear

[01:05:34] The prosthetic

[01:05:34] Probably a prosthetic

[01:05:35] So again

[01:05:36] That was a disaster

[01:05:38] So it was not

[01:05:40] In his case

[01:05:40] I mean

[01:05:41] I'm not defying him

[01:05:42] But in his case

[01:05:44] It was

[01:05:45] More

[01:05:47] Of an

[01:05:47] Itrogenic scene

[01:05:49] Because of

[01:05:50] Things which went wrong

[01:05:51] One thing led to the other

[01:05:52] Led to the other

[01:05:52] And he was obviously

[01:05:53] He did not become obsessive

[01:05:54] About it

[01:05:55] It was just beyond his control

[01:05:57] That

[01:05:57] You know

[01:05:58] I know of some people

[01:06:00] Who've had a nose job

[01:06:01] And then

[01:06:01] Had a correction

[01:06:02] And then

[01:06:03] They're living with it

[01:06:05] It's very traumatic

[01:06:06] If it goes wrong

[01:06:08] Imagine

[01:06:09] If your nose job

[01:06:10] It's a surgery

[01:06:11] Yeah

[01:06:11] Or a facelift

[01:06:13] If it goes wrong

[01:06:14] Yeah

[01:06:14] And then you have to correct it

[01:06:16] Yeah

[01:06:16] That itself is very traumatic

[01:06:18] Yeah

[01:06:19] And then if that

[01:06:19] Also doesn't

[01:06:20] Sort of fitting

[01:06:22] Right

[01:06:23] Then

[01:06:24] That you're looking like an alien

[01:06:25] All your life

[01:06:26] Absolutely

[01:06:27] So one part is

[01:06:28] That one is opt-in

[01:06:29] You don't have

[01:06:30] Any other

[01:06:31] Solve for it

[01:06:32] So you would go for it

[01:06:33] Right

[01:06:34] Whether it's a botox

[01:06:35] Fellow

[01:06:36] You know

[01:06:37] Beauty sculpting

[01:06:38] Whatever you call it

[01:06:39] The other part is

[01:06:40] When you're opting for it

[01:06:41] Yeah

[01:06:42] Aesthetic purpose

[01:06:42] Yeah

[01:06:43] There has to be a line

[01:06:44] Which has to be drawn

[01:06:44] It has to be drawn

[01:06:45] You can do your enhancements

[01:06:48] I told you

[01:06:48] One is correction

[01:06:49] One is enhancement

[01:06:50] Yeah

[01:06:50] So if you know

[01:06:52] In your profile

[01:06:53] You feel your chin is really

[01:06:54] Chin is retarded

[01:06:55] It's very small

[01:06:56] And if you add a little volume

[01:06:58] Your profile becomes really nice

[01:07:00] Yeah

[01:07:00] What does unstoppable spirit mean to you

[01:07:02] Dr. Deshwari

[01:07:03] I think never to look back

[01:07:06] And you know

[01:07:09] Take

[01:07:11] You fall but you get up again

[01:07:13] Hmm

[01:07:15] You fall again but you get up again

[01:07:17] Hmm

[01:07:17] Because someday

[01:07:18] You will not fall again

[01:07:21] Right

[01:07:21] Be at it

[01:07:22] So you have to be at it

[01:07:23] And you have to

[01:07:26] You have to learn that

[01:07:29] Every obstacle is actually an opportunity for you

[01:07:32] Hmm

[01:07:32] Right

[01:07:33] And if you change your mindset

[01:07:35] And instead of sitting and crying

[01:07:37] And brooding

[01:07:38] That I don't have this in my life

[01:07:40] Yeah

[01:07:40] And if you say that

[01:07:42] I will make this happen in my life

[01:07:44] Yeah

[01:07:44] Shift of energy

[01:07:45] Yeah

[01:07:46] It will happen

[01:07:47] Yeah

[01:07:47] That's what we've seen from your life history

[01:07:50] Yeah

[01:07:50] You've kept focusing on the light

[01:07:53] Yeah

[01:07:54] Not the darkness

[01:07:55] Yeah

[01:07:56] That's what you did right

[01:07:58] That's all that it is

[01:08:00] Yeah

[01:08:00] Because you have only one life

[01:08:01] Hmm

[01:08:02] You know

[01:08:03] And then

[01:08:04] From dust to dust

[01:08:05] Yes

[01:08:06] So you have to live it to the fullest

[01:08:08] Yes

[01:08:08] It was so lovely

[01:08:11] To have you part of our show

[01:08:12] Thank you

[01:08:13] And thank you for sharing it

[01:08:14] Bearing it all

[01:08:15] Being so authentic

[01:08:18] Really respect you for that

[01:08:19] Thank you so much

[01:08:20] Thank you for having me

[01:08:21] Thank you