[00:00:00] What is healing? Basically helping the body and supporting the body to reach that state which is called a parasim pathetic nervous system
[00:00:08] When it comes to repair that sound can do for you, Om is from where we have all come and Om is where we are all going to be
[00:00:26] Not Pranah
[00:00:28] Wow, that was beautiful. Thank you Anjali
[00:00:34] Thank you and welcome to the show and bow. Thank you for calling me
[00:00:39] This is absolutely our honor
[00:00:42] It's a dumb unstoppable human
[00:00:45] or S S A
[00:00:47] charisma S A Ora
[00:00:49] What is this?
[00:00:52] This is my name, it sounds
[00:00:55] And this is a very healing
[00:00:59] You are saying that you are a single person
[00:01:02] So a sound healer, therapist
[00:01:06] Anora reader
[00:01:08] And so much more
[00:01:10] But when you start to talk about your thoughts
[00:01:14] Your questions and your sessions
[00:01:18] What is your thoughts?
[00:01:20] I just like to understand that you choose a profession
[00:01:24] which is not a precedent
[00:01:27] So, first of all, how did you get the chance to get the chance?
[00:01:57] I would say that I was handholded by gurus whom I have not seen, but they have been
[00:02:05] there and present there. And every step I get guidance for the next step. So that's how
[00:02:11] I'm progressing. I'm a working progress like everybody else. Wow. Wow.
[00:02:16] A lot mystical.
[00:02:17] So I didn't mystify. Because yeah, like yourself we have really had the
[00:02:23] religion on a lot of mistakes, a lot of healers, specialists who have been on their journey.
[00:02:31] And yes, like you said, what you are doing is a very important thing. But my point is
[00:02:40] that you surrender to people. How do we normally do this in the G.R.O.T? I mean if I were to go to
[00:02:46] your background, how you were telling me that you're a finance major and you also come with your own
[00:02:52] set of corporate learnings and all. So just start it all for myself. I mean, I'm
[00:03:00] not sure if you're a guru, but how do you get it?
[00:03:05] So if I really look back, I was born in a family which was living in front of the temple.
[00:03:12] So I think this park was always there when you have, I am from Chani Chok and Chani Chok
[00:03:21] is a place where you know, we're very close to each other. But I feel that it's a very
[00:03:28] very hard. And my connection with God started from my childhood. But then I was growing up in
[00:03:35] family, which is like very very service oriented family and obviously we're very very study oriented
[00:03:43] education oriented family. And I went into and did my education majors in finance. And I
[00:03:50] was working into finance until we conceived our first try. And from that pregnancy onwards,
[00:03:58] I made a choice to stay at home for my children. And after having a second born,
[00:04:04] which is a daughter. So that's when I was 100 kgs. So from there, the quest started that you know,
[00:04:13] how do I lose that weight? So you can say the spark started from there. I did many things to
[00:04:20] bring down my weight and eventually yoga found me. I did not find it. It found me. And I used to be that
[00:04:33] I was in the 40th of my teachers. And I was like, what else is yoga? So my teachers said that
[00:04:43] why don't you do TTC? So that one sentence that one of my teachers said, what does it mean? TTC is yoga
[00:04:51] teacher training. So that one sentence from my teacher actually changed my entire life.
[00:04:58] And came COVID and I had the opportunity to do studies. And from there, the journey started
[00:05:06] from basic teacher learning to advance teacher learning to advance yoga therapist. And then
[00:05:13] doing my specialization in cancer therapy. And then from there, I started practicing as a yoga teacher
[00:05:21] trainer and a therapist. And during one of the therapies, sound for me. Okay.
[00:05:28] So one of the clients that I was working with, they were having a lot of issues in their
[00:05:35] eyesight. And he was not feeling very well on Monday. He was very low. So I thought, you know,
[00:05:43] I always had a singing bullet home. So I thought, let me just play the singing bullet always
[00:05:47] makes me feel very good. So maybe he might also feel nice about it. Yeah. So we started playing
[00:05:56] singing bullet within two or three minutes. He was in complete meditative state of mind
[00:06:03] while we had never done meditation before. So that's the saptomy that really shook me, that how just
[00:06:12] a small singing bowl can really change the state of mind for a person who has never meditated before.
[00:06:19] And I started exploring. I ended up into the Chinese School of Music Therapy doing my music therapy,
[00:06:27] which helped me understand the clinical side of music, which helped me understand humans psychology
[00:06:34] in deep and also the anatomy of the brain in deep. I'd always be studying anotmy of the body
[00:06:43] yoga. But this took me to a deeper level from there then I understood that music therapy is
[00:06:50] different sound therapy is different. So I went to Orville in Swaram and I did my Sonori and
[00:06:58] well-nest training from there. Wow. Wow. Wow. You know, you said you started your journey
[00:07:07] and you're not even in the middle of the day. Yeah, you know, as a quite fast track, isn't it?
[00:07:14] It's a fast track but you know, at the cost of sounding mystical. I really feel like you said
[00:07:20] this is just four years. But as yoga always say that your learnings are not only from this
[00:07:28] word, I truly believe that these learnings were somewhere lying within my consciousness which I
[00:07:37] had the help of yoga. So yeah, so for me I am a constant learner although I teach sound now
[00:07:44] but I always tell my students also that I'm sharing my knowledge with you because the moment
[00:07:51] that thought comes that I'm teaching, that I'm holding up my learning. So I'm a learner for life.
[00:07:58] Wow. Quite mesmerizing the how and individual who is perfectly playing on the field of
[00:08:07] materialism, ambition, desire, you know, catapults into and you're also going to be
[00:08:13] your journey's shrwad. I'm going to wait for you. Yeah. And being a mother. Being a mother.
[00:08:19] A mother right from outside to now absolutely in going inward. Going inward. Yeah. It's a beautiful journey
[00:08:27] and like we always hear, Momta that her successful admi kbj kaurabhoti, but her successful
[00:08:34] admi kbj kbj kbj kbj kbj kbj family. Wow. So for me it is my not just my husband, my children have
[00:08:42] also supported me like how even today in my quest to learn I leave my home and I go out for 15 days.
[00:08:49] I'm not there with them. They hold on to it all three of them. They manage each other.
[00:08:55] So yeah, I cannot do it without this support. So I've been very very blessed in terms of my family as well.
[00:09:03] I mean truly, I kind of deny that at all. I mean, I feel like the poor
[00:09:08] got a poor guy who said, I think, a child raised, a village, a village. He's a woman who
[00:09:13] has an ambition to get a few lower fire. They don't care. You do need that whole community and
[00:09:19] support system. And also the people who come to you. So if the people who come to you are not
[00:09:26] motivating you enough or are not supportive enough and cannot give you the right feedback that makes you
[00:09:33] so everybody, yeah. It's a whole village which is totally become a better person totally. Coming to that
[00:09:41] from there to again the play of tools in sound right. I mean, I'm in a tough good care of my
[00:09:49] bus but I would want to understand when you say sound healing at what?
[00:09:54] Healing could decode. What is healing? So healing, you know, it's a very, I take my work,
[00:10:03] very scientifically, very medically. So our body has its own healing powers. Technically,
[00:10:10] our body is really capable of healing itself. That means it is a capable of repairing itself in
[00:10:18] every way. So sound healing or healing any modality in healing is basically helping the body
[00:10:26] or supporting the body to reach that state which is called our parasempathetic nervous system
[00:10:31] which is triggering that state of mind where the mind can repair the whole body. So that's
[00:10:38] and in our modality we are using it with support of sound. We are using it with support of frequencies.
[00:10:45] So that's what sound healing is. I'm a little bit of a pause,
[00:10:49] I'm going to do a little bit of a different thing. Healing, a normal, you know,
[00:10:55] blame and the language means that I don't have to be a part of it. Exactly.
[00:10:59] My first thing to do is to damage the whole body. So when I say that I come to sound for healing,
[00:11:08] what is the repair that I'm looking for? Sometimes when people come to me they don't even
[00:11:14] know that they don't repair. So when it comes to repair that sound can do for you. It is basically
[00:11:22] very deep routine emotions. Sometimes in a journey we think that we have overcome those emotions
[00:11:29] or we have you know worked on ourselves but those emotions are so deep rooted that we really cannot
[00:11:36] take them out on our own. So sound goes so deep into your body on your spiritual level,
[00:11:44] on your cellular level it will go till you are so and find out the area where you're holding
[00:11:51] that particular emotion and tickle it I like to call it a tickle and it will show you that,
[00:11:59] you know this is your area where you're holding that emotion and now the time has come to release.
[00:12:04] So like it will take out first what you're holding and then help it to release. So that's the
[00:12:12] process of sound. So what you are healing is basically not just something which you are,
[00:12:18] you may be a perfectly sorted human being in this life but there may be a lot of things that we
[00:12:25] are carrying from a previous life. So here you have answers to all these things. I recently come
[00:12:31] across somebody who is having a perfectly normal life, absolutely blessed life, no issues.
[00:12:39] I mean, they're talking about issues and stuff. I don't know if they're not, but otherwise
[00:12:42] absolutely normal life but still unspoken fears, unspoken anxieties, unspoken pains.
[00:12:51] So they are holding those spaces, those pains, those fears, anxieties from their previous
[00:12:57] lifetime. Go on. And sound has the capability of releasing those fears, those anxieties.
[00:13:05] If not, you may say that, you know, how can you claim that? But just the realization,
[00:13:11] can you imagine you are growing up, you are growing up with a question in your mind. Why?
[00:13:19] Why is this happening to me again and again? Although my life is so sorted, why I'm still anxious.
[00:13:27] And when you get an answer that you know, this has got triggered not in this life.
[00:13:35] It has got triggered in your previous life. So can you imagine the amount of relief that person gets?
[00:13:43] And then of course we guide them to release it now. Of course a process does not happen in one
[00:13:49] session or two sessions. It is a series of sessions that happened and my work that's why I said,
[00:13:55] it is highly clinical also. My work is psychological also emotional also because I have to be present
[00:14:02] with the person to help them, support them and let them go through the journey where I'm playing
[00:14:08] the sound and supporting them. Wow. That's a beautiful explanation. And of course a deeper truth.
[00:14:16] But you know, typically how we process things in today's day and age is tangibility.
[00:14:22] I have a small picture here. I have some anger issues. Is it emotion or trauma?
[00:14:28] Yeah, fear. So what we are saying is that sound will right from the bodily physical level to
[00:14:34] emotional mental psychic spiritual. It'll help you also. Absolutely. Absolutely.
[00:14:41] Absolutely. Personally, Manta for me, I always tell everyone that for me this is for my
[00:14:51] scriptures also see that this entire universe came from Anna Anna. This is the Nard of Ome.
[00:14:58] You are Oma, Ome, everything is Ome, right? And these instruments which are there in front of us,
[00:15:04] they are also Ome. So we are all manifestations of Ome in our own different form.
[00:15:10] Wow. So that's why sound will definitely heal. It will definitely help the person to release
[00:15:17] all those emotions or those ideas that yet. Sometimes we are not even aware about those ideas
[00:15:23] that we are holding on. So that's the process of sound and when I say cellular level,
[00:15:30] because these instruments, whether it is a singing, both whether it is a chime, whether it is a
[00:15:36] gong, whether it is nidranta on which you are lying down. So it's a very vibration, very tangible.
[00:15:44] It's a very tangible science. So you will feel that vibration in your body and that vibration is
[00:15:51] traveling in your body. So it's like with the waves of sound, you're getting washed up.
[00:15:57] Wow. Wash up. Wash up. A lot of beautiful batham curry. Just before we started the show,
[00:16:03] we said that one sound that you have, that you have, that you have, that you have, that you have,
[00:16:13] tell us the difference. So the differences, I was what we were speaking about is also science.
[00:16:18] So I was telling you that sound is physical and sound is also mental. Yeah. So the physical
[00:16:26] or the physiological aspect of sound is still first there is an object which starts the vibration.
[00:16:34] Then there is a medium which can be air water, wood. It can be your skin or it can be a mental.
[00:16:40] So the sound is traveling through that medium and it is vibrating the medium also.
[00:16:46] And then through that medium, it is reaching your ear or your skin. So from until now,
[00:16:53] the sound is only physiological, physical. Yeah. But the moment these vibrations or the electrical
[00:17:00] currents are reaching your brain or your spine in case of your skin. So that is from where the brain
[00:17:08] is starting to interpret it or perceive sound as per your own conditioning and that is where sound
[00:17:16] becomes mental. Your own conditioning, your own perceptions, really, really affect how or effect
[00:17:25] how sound is going to work on your body. That's why before doing any session, not just in sound
[00:17:32] but all healing modalities. We all ask people to set an intention because sound or other healing
[00:17:40] modalities for that matter also are working on this concept of the psychology of sound.
[00:17:49] So would you then, I mean would it be fair or justified to say that someone who is sure
[00:17:55] or who is there or who is there or who is there or who is there or who is there or who is there.
[00:17:59] Exactly, that's why we say that not all music is sound and not all sound is music.
[00:18:05] Yeah, absolutely, definitely. And when we start working in the field of sound, sometimes people
[00:18:12] come and say no, it did not work for us. So we have to go through all these processes and we have
[00:18:18] to understand yes, it depends upon how the person is perceiving the sound. It will also matter
[00:18:26] in their process. If they are well surrendered, if they are thinking that yes it is going to work.
[00:18:33] It is the simple concept of manifestation, if you think that as to whether we are learning,
[00:18:39] sorry, it will work, it will work. If you are not believing, it won't work. So then you are
[00:18:48] allowing the sound to go deeper, penetrate into those areas where it has to reach because you are
[00:18:55] blocking it on your conscious level. So you have to be an alliance of that too. Yes,
[00:19:02] for them there is very important and we do not expect people to surrender in the first session.
[00:19:08] That's why we have to feed the sound into their body in first few sessions. We have to
[00:19:14] make them understand and we also have to understand as a therapist how sound is working on them.
[00:19:20] So first few sessions I will keep the balls on their body, keep it light and observe how they are
[00:19:27] reacting to the sound, how they are accepting the sound and how sound is also accepting them.
[00:19:33] And then we proceed. How sound is also accepting them? Yeah. What is the measure? I mean this is
[00:19:42] it's for people like us who were just in our daily life and routine to take these concepts
[00:19:51] and then to believe in them at a tangible level. It's a little difficult to decipher because each
[00:19:57] exam didn't learn anything. We didn't have any. And I don't know if you have to do anything.
[00:20:02] That is my work as a therapist. So you don't have to do anything. You know, I always like to tell
[00:20:10] that how many times you have tried to meditate and you could not. Right? So sound is such a simple
[00:20:18] medium where you are just lying down and I'm doing the work and you're still feeling
[00:20:23] meditating. So I ask people sometimes in a lighter way and I ask them, you just have to breathe and
[00:20:29] keep yourself alive. I'll play. Guys, the work you need to do. All the lazy people in the
[00:20:39] whole time you're pleased. Yeah, please come. I like that sales page. It can't get too simple.
[00:20:48] Interesting. You have taken the sessions and I've seen you sitting in Shunya. So yes,
[00:20:55] the silence is where sound takes you. Silence is where we are all trying to reach and it is the most
[00:21:02] simplest medium where you're just lying down. And we do not expect you to, you know, become a
[00:21:09] pro in surrendering because it is a process. It is a journey. Sound will take you to that surrender.
[00:21:16] surrender also comes with belief when a person feels okay I am sleeping better at least
[00:21:22] or those negative thoughts which were like haunting me throughout the day they have lessons.
[00:21:27] So that down's upon them but in two or three sessions. So we wait, that is where I work as a
[00:21:35] aware therapist comes in that we wait. We allow the people to be. We are not forcing. That's why
[00:21:42] I said that I have to see how the person is accepting the sound and how sound is accepting in
[00:21:48] the way, how sound is working on that person. So maybe from the first session onwards,
[00:21:54] the person is not accepting that they have gone deep. Like, you know, sometimes people say,
[00:22:00] was I snoring? I said, yes, I really want you to know. Please take rest please be in that space
[00:22:10] where you do not know where you are because I am a safe place. I'll keep you safe. Sound will keep
[00:22:16] you safe. All you have to do is just be in with yourself. Yeah.
[00:22:47] And is there a way will they benefit really? What the how would it really work?
[00:22:52] I think we are born out of sound. I don't think we are born out of sound. So there is no
[00:22:59] age limit for sound. Of course, as I've been repeating this jargon of being an aware therapist
[00:23:05] so we have to work around people as per their level of age if we are working with the
[00:23:16] work. We have to take care of the fetus. So for the first three months, I would rather not
[00:23:24] do sound for somebody or even if they are very eager to have sound. I'll rather play something
[00:23:30] very softly and gently. But from the second trimester onwards it's very safe to have sound.
[00:23:37] Of course, as in a way, therapists we have to be aware about the decibel levels for the fetus.
[00:23:42] Okay. Then babies, of course, we have to take care of the kind of instruments we are using around
[00:23:52] them. So we as a therapist have to adjust our instruments around on the basis of age
[00:23:59] on the basis of the physical condition of the person. On the basis of the disease that they are
[00:24:06] going through, if somebody is having a lot of headache and I'm giving them thumping sound. Of course,
[00:24:14] it will increase their headache. So sound is safe at all levels. It is a very, very safe mediums.
[00:24:21] It is my responsibility as a therapist to be an aware therapist and make sure that it is a safe
[00:24:27] session for the mind. But irrespective of that as we discussed that it is also about the process
[00:24:34] of the person, how they are perceiving sound. So they may or may not like it and so be it.
[00:24:41] Yeah. And my question, the second question was actually woven into that that for someone,
[00:24:45] you know, any kind of effect, I think I'm too much more meditative.
[00:24:50] Yeah, I have a lot of work to do in a way that I can get a job in a way that I can get a job in a way that
[00:24:57] can get a job in a way that I can get a job in a way that I can get a job in a way that I can get a job in a way that
[00:25:04] up to their wavelength of brain, where will the sound go? So as you can see that my work is not
[00:25:14] just singing. I work on all the five elements of our body and I your way there also speaks about
[00:25:21] this. So in Ayutveda we have the three good night or three dosyas. What the pithika. In our work
[00:25:29] we work on the five elements, which is your fire, water, ether, then air and earth. So in our
[00:25:40] work we understand that you know if a person is driven by a particular element, what will be
[00:25:47] the behavior of that person be? Okay. So we observe your body language, we observe you as a person
[00:25:54] without telling you. Oh wow. So I observe the element that from just me speaking to you or looking at
[00:26:01] you or a handshake will give me enough information to understand which element is right now prominent
[00:26:08] in your nature or which dosha, in Ayurvedic terminology and then accordingly I play my sound.
[00:26:17] If somebody has got a lot of air element already in their body, right? Right. So cuffer,
[00:26:24] if somebody is already bloating with air, right? If somebody is already into a very high air,
[00:26:31] I won't play air to them. Okay. To make them feel more floty. Right. I would rather to bring the air
[00:26:38] down, I'll play water or I'll bring in earth to ground that to ground them. So that's how it
[00:26:45] works. So there's a lot of things happening in the background. That's why I have promise myself to be
[00:26:53] a continuous learner because this is a very deep feel just like you and it is also an upcoming
[00:26:59] feel. People are doing wonderful work in the field of sound and I cannot think that I am a
[00:27:05] know it all. So that's how we decode you, that's how we continuously keep improving ourselves
[00:27:13] and you know come up with sessions after sessions. Of course there is a proper record that has
[00:27:20] to be maintained, that's why when somebody comes I sit with my journal. I know done everything that
[00:27:28] you're saying. Of course it is highly confidential but we do check everybody's blood pressures,
[00:27:35] we check your medical reports and we also check your chakras. Now that's a little bit about
[00:27:43] the education that we get as a in this energy field of work, we get to understand how you can check
[00:27:50] them and so what I'm saying here is what use for a layman what is like a mystical for us. It
[00:27:59] is a step by step scientific process. Coming to your personal journey I know there's a lot of
[00:28:06] education, a lot of knowledge, a lot of wisdom and I think you know there's a lot of work and
[00:28:12] now we've already shared some of the things that I have to do and I don't think that this episode
[00:28:17] is going to be a good thing for us to understand it. So we will probably have more for a lot
[00:28:23] more understanding there but coming back to your journey what has led to the making of you,
[00:28:31] where you are sitting today, this confident, totally calm and very, very driven human that
[00:28:39] you are. How have you achieved and reached this space? Are there failures or are there fears? Are
[00:28:46] there challenges? What lies? See failures are every single day. I think what has got me over here
[00:28:53] has two things. One is that understanding that I am a working progress. That is very important.
[00:29:01] If you do not realize that there's some work to be done with in you and that realization
[00:29:06] is not for one day, two day, three day it should be constant. So you're learning also
[00:29:12] constantly and you are a working progress also. Yes absolutely 100% every moment I'm learning
[00:29:18] you know every person who's coming in my life is a guru. Right? I'm learning from you. I'm
[00:29:24] learning from everyone around me. So I think this behavior of being a learner and looking at myself,
[00:29:32] not very critically, I'm not a self-critical person but yes I do agree and accept that there are
[00:29:39] a lot of work to be done and you know not at the cost of you know sound to increase or to please
[00:29:48] my husband actually came as an anchor in my life. There was a phase when I was like a fears you know
[00:29:55] you can say the fire within me was very very high and he came like a cool breeze in water in my life.
[00:30:05] He's a very big anchor in my life and he himself, I am I would say that I am somebody who learned
[00:30:13] yoga and study yoga. He's somebody who has been living yoga. So his presence you know I started
[00:30:22] measuring his present. So his then his behavior changed me a lot. Even before we met I had realized
[00:30:31] that you know that work has to be done so somewhere that work had started within me. But his presence
[00:30:39] actually increased that positivity and since then it's been like a constant process.
[00:30:46] I won't say I'm perfect. I won't say that I have achieved it but yes I'm much better
[00:30:52] human being than what I was some kind of a foreshore. For sure and it's kind of a
[00:30:59] poured down that we can see you know with everything, every conversation, choice of word,
[00:31:05] everything that you're bringing to the show. But my inquiry again is that we all are born
[00:31:14] some sort of carmic connects. A few other families function, they function.
[00:31:20] A few other things, our favorite ones are not that they are not.
[00:31:25] I identify the way I don't know what's going on. This is not where I'm going to put all my life
[00:31:34] to. How does that come to you? Where it is that real wisdom comes that you make that choice.
[00:31:43] In any case, I mean, I identify you and I'm born here. I'm brought up here. So this is what
[00:31:49] my favorite industry is and I can say that this is definitely not. So how do we come to that
[00:32:01] Krante Karivicya which is so hot to believe now? Because you know I was born in Charlie Chock,
[00:32:11] which was at that time. I don't know how it is now but at that time it was a very conservative
[00:32:17] society. But my family was not so conservative. We were very modern family and very forward
[00:32:24] looking family. So I remember in those days, Jaha Paladya, Suud Manthiti.
[00:32:31] We all met a special person. Yeah absolutely fine. I was time maybe skirt from Maniskar's
[00:32:37] home. And Kahina Kahini that has you know that acceptance for myself has always been there.
[00:32:48] You know irrespective of whatever way I was. I've never repented any of my decisions.
[00:32:56] I've always respected my decision and learned from my mistake, always. But that you know in
[00:33:03] it quality of taking a decision and sticking to it and learning from it and going forward.
[00:33:10] And fearlessness was always there. Well the bond with self-monitoring.
[00:33:14] I would say I was born with my kids. Because I've always, always walked against the wind.
[00:33:24] I was the first person in my family to go abroad for work also and the first woman in my family
[00:33:32] and girls. I mean out of the choice nobody else was working but I started working after the next
[00:33:39] day of my graduation. So have been on a like, have been like cramthi Karishan.
[00:33:49] And yeah I'm really happy that I never regretted any decision and always stood up for myself
[00:34:00] and teachers also. I got like I remember when I was in graduation. You know, this is what I say
[00:34:07] teacher Kaha was actually a big deal. So we were in graduation and we did not have any
[00:34:14] economic teachers. So I do not come from a very financially fluent background. So at that time
[00:34:23] I did not have this financial viability of having a tuition. In graduation it was difficult.
[00:34:30] So I went to my teacher and said, you know, so everybody can survive because they can go and
[00:34:37] have a tuition outside but I'm depending on college. What should I do?
[00:34:42] You know there is no teacher. You put it out that way. Yeah straight away. So he said, you know,
[00:34:47] until it is your life. Nobody else will stand for you. Take a stand in stand up for yourself.
[00:34:55] Take it up with management, take it up with college and go for it. And that changed for ever,
[00:35:01] for ever from that point onwards I never forgot that one you have to stand for yourself. Yeah,
[00:35:08] that one sentence that you have to stand up for yourself and I made it a motto of my life to stand
[00:35:15] up for myself. And yeah this really helped me, you know. I never feared that if there is no
[00:35:25] fail, I learned something. You know, like Einstein also said, I learned thousand ways of not doing
[00:35:33] something rather than you know feeling like a failure. Yes, of course at times I did feel
[00:35:39] feel like a failure. I had my own depressions, lows etc., so everything. Failure is
[00:35:49] worth. If it is happening, then what is the disturbing? What I do not know is,
[00:35:55] self validation, the issue is that people's judgments are the most disturbing. I think
[00:36:01] one person feels that even though he feels that when he is being taken to the hospital,
[00:36:06] he thinks he is thinking what is going on in the world. What is going on?
[00:36:10] This is the failure. We don't fail in our own actions. We always learn for ourselves. That
[00:36:17] not also that I failed comes out of peer pressure.
[00:36:22] Like in my case, there was a time when I tried to commit suicide.
[00:36:27] That happened because I was always a very studious student.
[00:36:31] I always had the best of the ranking and once I could not do that.
[00:36:38] So today I understand I did that thing because in my eyes I had that ego of being such
[00:36:47] high scoring student, two or two who did not score so well.
[00:36:52] I did not fail.
[00:36:54] I did not score as well as I used to.
[00:36:58] So that ego in us, you know, that I have a certain image to live up to in this world is what
[00:37:07] is causing so much anxiety and depression in us.
[00:37:12] See, I am retrospect, I have seen a lot of things.
[00:37:15] But when we are living that moment, you know, when you are having that societal thought
[00:37:21] or when you are having that thought or calling yourself something, you know,
[00:37:26] I am a failure, I am a failure, I am not good enough.
[00:37:31] What is that pulls you out?
[00:37:32] How do you, have you really been able to figure out or create some sort of first structure
[00:37:38] to breaking that pattern?
[00:37:40] Can we all learn something here from this show today that yes, when you get into the
[00:37:46] resonance of negative thoughts, let's say, then how do you break that?
[00:37:51] See, today I can say I can break it with sound.
[00:37:55] Right?
[00:37:55] Anybody I have really with yoga and sound, I have saved some lives.
[00:38:00] I am really, really thankful to God for giving me that opportunity where I could save some
[00:38:06] life with the help of sound because it gives you clarity.
[00:38:10] It helps you become a common and relaxed person.
[00:38:15] But when I was in that point of time, of course, I have tried to commit suicide.
[00:38:21] At that point of time, it is your family support which matters a lot, a lot, a lot.
[00:38:28] And it did not happen once, it happened twice with me, that I tried to pull myself down,
[00:38:34] but twice. But of course, it was my family's love and support which pulled me out every time.
[00:38:42] And once I was out of here, then I realized, you know, why am I doing this?
[00:38:49] Is it really worth it? Are the people we always should ponder in that situation?
[00:38:57] Is the situation?
[00:38:59] The person maybe we are doing it because of a person?
[00:39:03] Or the perception of the entire world? At that point of time, worth it.
[00:39:11] Like when I try to commit suicide the second time,
[00:39:17] I really downed upon me by my life is precious.
[00:39:22] If God is saving me, why God is saving me again and again?
[00:39:27] And am I doing it right? Is it really worth it?
[00:39:31] Or these people who are pulling me down, these situations which are pulling me down,
[00:39:37] why am I giving them this much of importance and power to do this to me?
[00:39:43] When this realization comes to us, that it is not worth it.
[00:39:49] Then it is easier to let go like you asked me, was it easy for you to let go of these situations
[00:39:55] and people initially? It was not. It is a continuous practice to let go.
[00:40:00] Let go does not come though? Is it easy? Is it also, I mean, I'm just inquisitive to know that is it also coming from a space of
[00:40:10] a TK, a self sabotage here, a self-unworthiness of self-critic mode may hold.
[00:40:17] But is it also coming because you're blaming other for your situations? Do you think that you're
[00:40:21] not in control of your situations? Absolutely. We are not in control of our situation,
[00:40:28] but the blame we are projected to get out to the world. At the base of everything,
[00:40:33] whether it is my situation, whether it is anybody else's situation,
[00:40:37] if we're in a basic space, we can always look at it as a lack of self-love.
[00:40:42] If we love ourselves, we will not go to that extreme. Today I am inculcating, I am inculcated,
[00:40:50] that self-love for myself. I love myself, I respect myself, I value my journey.
[00:40:57] So I will never do that. And where do you think we lose that love? Why do you think we lose it?
[00:41:03] Because we always seek validation outside. We as people, as parents,
[00:41:11] as people who have other human beings around us, it is our responsibility to cover with a new generation
[00:41:19] who understands that they do not need validation outside, that validation should be from inside,
[00:41:26] within the boundaries of this social world that we are living in. I'm not saying that in
[00:41:33] our process of self-felliation, we do things which hurt others. We do things which is beyond
[00:41:39] the society. When it comes to self-felliation, it means that my success parameter is not decided
[00:41:48] by others. I am competing only with myself. I'm becoming the best part of myself.
[00:41:55] My capabilities. And I respect the process and I believe very strongly that when God has given
[00:42:04] us the human birth, it is for excellence. It is not for just being there. So we have but
[00:42:12] excellence doesn't come like in a splash of time. You have to work towards and it is a mix of
[00:42:21] up and down. I always tell people that if your graph is like this, you are dead.
[00:42:27] Up and down means you're alive. You're medically sure. So go through that process of up and down
[00:42:34] but with joy, with acceptance only for yourself. You don't have to look up to anybody else to
[00:42:42] validate. And we are living in a beautiful world now. When we were growing up, the set-up was different.
[00:42:50] You were there was some set expectation. Yeah, some social network. The world has evolved into such a
[00:42:57] beautiful space where parents are more accepting, where people are more accepting. Students are more
[00:43:04] evolving. They have multiple options to us themselves. So that's what we have to become as a society.
[00:43:13] As a parent to become that person where we can tell our students and children.
[00:43:19] Yeah. We validate you, that's okay but what is more important is your validation, your belief
[00:43:27] from yourself. Yeah. And I think if I, if I, what do you hear you right and you can correct me if
[00:43:32] I'm wrong that let's normalize failing also. Right? I think we have really overhyped and sort of
[00:43:40] glorified success so much that if you're not succeed then you're an end here. So rather than
[00:43:46] that really saying that one person is successful, you're a failure. So if someone is a
[00:43:51] person, then someone is a failure. So it's relative. Relative. Success is also relative and failure
[00:43:59] is also relative. When my children fail at something or they feel bad about something, I asked
[00:44:07] them to pick their head and look around them. They're living in abundance. What you have,
[00:44:14] your successes in counting the blessings. I'm not saying that you should stop trying. You should
[00:44:21] excel. You should keep trying but with joy with this, with this feeling in you okay if I can
[00:44:30] not do something right now, I'll do it. I'll try again. Again. Yeah. I'm not asking you to
[00:44:36] calculate a habit of procrastination. No, we have to give a best. We have to excel but
[00:44:44] to his pressure and best. And it's a version that you know that the
[00:44:49] preparedness is that today you're doing so much. Yeah.
[00:44:53] So many preparedness will be your best or not.
[00:44:57] We are in class 5 every weekend difficult for us when we are in class 12 that is like
[00:45:02] but for the class 5 student that is struggle. The most difficult thing. So
[00:45:08] it the narrative is always changing. We have to inculcate or try at least we should try to show
[00:45:17] children that there is a larger picture to everything and of course we should motivate them to have
[00:45:29] any luck share without any target. Then you are like hitting the arrow in the dark which is also
[00:45:37] okay to an extent unless you hit many arrows in the dark you don't see the way, you know.
[00:45:42] Somewhere it will give you the light also but you know as parents we can support them to
[00:45:49] have that focus. Yeah. And I think expectation, the load of expectation,
[00:45:54] that you don't have to do so much and when you don't do that you won't do it.
[00:45:58] You don't have to do it. When you have to do so much, you don't have to do so much.
[00:46:04] And when you have to do so much, you don't have to do so much.
[00:46:05] Also there is a great point that we have to give them an ambition or desire or a goal
[00:46:10] to orient themselves towards. But there are so many things that you become in the making of
[00:46:15] becoming something. Right? So if you if you know on your way to becoming a doctor you do
[00:46:21] discover that you are a great artist then please go ahead and pursue that. Right? Yeah.
[00:46:27] See it's tricky, kosher I would say. Yeah. Because I also went through this
[00:46:33] question as a parent and I asked this question to many other people because you know one
[00:46:39] thought is definitely that you know it is journey like we are discussing that every parent has
[00:46:45] to go through this journey. We have to allow their children to be. Yeah. But at the second
[00:46:51] thought we are also living in a competitive world. So that's why I said you know
[00:46:57] focus is very important and sound helps you in focusing. You know that clarity of the mind
[00:47:05] gives you that clarity of what I want to do. What is not important is what you become?
[00:47:12] What is important is that you've become your best version in that. In that. And of course,
[00:47:18] as we said that becoming best is a relative term but without a clarity then that leads to
[00:47:27] again self-taughts. It leads to again anxiety, depression. That's why having that clarity okay
[00:47:35] I am going towards a target. I know at least where I have to reach like we take a bus with a
[00:47:41] proper stop. We don't just keep roaming around in a bus. So that's what I'm speaking that
[00:47:48] talk to the bus. Someone who is played a role of an anchor. I mean of course I've heard
[00:47:53] about your husband but you know in your formative years where you've really found them as your
[00:47:59] ideals or guiding light they can even be inspiration. I mean people who are really there in your life
[00:48:05] and people or characters that you have taken inspiration from. My hero is my mother because
[00:48:13] my father passed away when I was 90 years old. Not a soft story though but because why not a
[00:48:21] soft story because I saw her standing in front of the whole world raising us without taking any
[00:48:29] financial support and you know being a self-driven self-sufficient mother and who raised her
[00:48:40] in those difficult financial time also that you know you are not going to be just a graduate.
[00:48:46] Pushing us that's what I'm saying that you know she pushed us towards that focus that you cannot
[00:48:53] be just a graduate. You have to study. You have to study today I understand that that you know drive
[00:49:00] that she gave us that you have to study there is no if and butterbout. It really helped get to
[00:49:08] excel in self get to get to my I mean full put a I think she helped me to realize how much I love learning.
[00:49:18] Wow. No that's why she is my hero and I've been a little
[00:49:24] idealistic kind of a human being who was not like didn't school for that because
[00:49:29] I was like I told you that I'm a cheating girl. So yes, um, part from her it was one of my teachers in
[00:49:40] my school was my ideal, my one of my very favorite teachers who really helped me. His name is Joshi
[00:49:49] Sir unfortunately he's not in the mortal world anymore but he really you know he used to call us
[00:49:56] a group of children called he used to call us his one or sena and the the one or sena was all
[00:50:03] the children who could not come out of their shells and I was what I really yeah I was one of them
[00:50:10] who could not come out of their shells and he used to you know push us to go on the stage and you
[00:50:17] know just speak something just go out and speak what have you failed so we need those mentors
[00:50:24] and those teachers in our life who really push us a little forward and come out of our way.
[00:50:29] We have to be those mentors and now it is our responsibility to be those mentors. Beautiful.
[00:50:37] So dad you're not like that. Is he sick of me?
[00:50:41] We are going to the next day we will take a look at the third floor.
[00:50:48] We are going to take a look at the third floor. I don't know.
[00:50:51] Wow. In this generation you have to see how it issues of bullying,
[00:50:58] issues of anxiety like we just spoke briefly. How do you think parents, families
[00:51:06] self-aware individuals, society communities can do a better job at managing and handling these issues?
[00:51:14] See bullying is a very deep thing. With all my respect children are a mirror
[00:51:24] of ourselves as parents we have to accept this thing there is no if and but about us. Of course
[00:51:31] every child has their own journey as well but how we as an adult are conducting ourselves at home
[00:51:39] in terms of our behavior towards each other, how husband and wife are speaking to each other,
[00:51:47] how they are speaking to their elders. It starts at that level you know. The child is a mirror
[00:51:55] of us. They are always observing children learn by observation. So first step is they will learn from
[00:52:02] their then they will learn from schools, then they will learn from their peers. But irrespective
[00:52:09] of whatever they are learning if they are coming back to an environment and an environment at home
[00:52:16] which is not what they see outside. So at least that introspection will happen if this is right
[00:52:23] or if that is right. Unfortunately in today's world the outside world is really aggressive.
[00:52:30] So somewhere we have to see why we are aggressive and that is because people are working so much
[00:52:38] hard that they have stopped taking out time for themselves you know if we see our lives we are
[00:52:45] running after our work we are running after our children life is much more demanding than what
[00:52:52] was for appearance. What are the sources? We are working much more higher. That's why I call
[00:53:02] myself a pause in everybody's life. We really need that pause. We really have to take out time
[00:53:11] for an hour or two in a day if not in a day at least take out time in a week for your self or
[00:53:18] family do something I am not saying just come to sound. You know go out let's revive
[00:53:26] picnics yeah we used to have picnics in our families not anymore very basic concept. Whereas
[00:53:35] there is every apartment has a park but how many time people do picnics in the park you know
[00:53:49] we do meet our friends but you know very few people are still going out with their friends on holidays
[00:53:58] and trekking. So basically you know everything comes to one simple thing that I feel is human
[00:54:06] and nature. Now come here concept trucking and a human is different nature is different.
[00:54:10] Taptakya isu rahega. Human and nature is one. So we have to go back to nature,
[00:54:18] we have to go back to our roots, we have to relax ourselves and find out the way how we can relax
[00:54:26] ourselves. I am here with sound if you connect with sound please come to me. If dancing is your passion
[00:54:33] if that really relax you I really feel I do it myself also with my husband we go out and learn
[00:54:41] dancing you know dances so take out any activity which can detach you from your work for an
[00:54:48] honor to win a week at least. That is what the society needs right now take it easy guys take it easy.
[00:54:56] Life is long and a little bit of spiritual if I can of course of course it's your show
[00:55:04] I don't want to be voting but yes it is very important for all of us on this earth to realize
[00:55:13] why ask this question to ourselves why we are born as humans. Why we are not born like any other
[00:55:20] other species although animals are much more evolved than us but we as human beings have been
[00:55:29] given this ability to think about our own a session, our own a session as a species as a human being.
[00:55:40] So please ask this question how I can become my better version in this life.
[00:55:48] Your better version is a person who is living the beautiful life in the most rewarding way
[00:55:58] with everything you desire you really really deserve everything well in your life.
[00:56:06] But with that just be a little conscious that you are not hurting the sentiments of others.
[00:56:13] You are able to support yourself in your capability I'm not asking you to go out of the
[00:56:20] way to help others within your capabilities, within what you can do in your social financial
[00:56:28] parameters do that to help and support others also to become their best version. Just do these two things.
[00:56:38] Live your life to the best enjoy your life, enjoy your failures, enjoy your up celebrate and celebrate
[00:56:47] the failures also they are the best teachers. I think that will be a great level of
[00:56:52] yeah and as a society will be more de-distressed you are in distress. So if you would like to
[00:57:00] invite someone who is an unstoppable human or would just want to have a conversation with me
[00:57:06] right to me at unbound with mmtha at gmail.com that is u and b o u and d w i t h m a m t a a
[00:57:16] ad gmail.com you can also follow my instagram at the rate mmtha podcaster that is m a m
[00:57:26] podcaster. Wow welcome back on that musical note beautiful thanks for that actually.
[00:58:02] Yeah shall we start with um um what is for you to explain um okay yeah um what is the
[00:58:10] link in the description. So relax yourself observe your body and relax your mind
[00:58:25] and connect to your breathing we will chant um in a u mmtha when we are chanting um
[00:58:38] at a take your attention to your lower abdomen at u visualize that your energy is rising
[00:58:48] from your lower abdomen to the center of your chest and at mmtha think about your energy
[00:58:56] to be present either in the crown of your head or at your lips. So take a deep breath in
[00:59:30] your beautiful synchronization we had. So um as we spoke earlier also um is from where we have
[00:59:39] all come and om is where we are all going to be. So in this simulation of the world om is the reality
[00:59:49] um k char bhag hai ah u mha and the silence that comes after that. So silence is the integration
[01:00:00] of om and silence is also integration of sound and om is sound and sound is om.
[01:00:09] So after sound comes silence of course the journey of sound sound is the journey
[01:00:15] and the reality is silence we are all trying to be in that silence and sound is helping us to
[01:00:24] reach there. So basically Bhagwanayam going to always be here absolutely. So technically when you are
[01:00:31] in silence then there is no voice the sound of silence is the deepest of all the sound sound of silence.
[01:00:39] Yes it is it is a beautiful sound that we experience once we reach there until then it is only the journey.
[01:00:49] Yeah so jubham keteen kbe silent listen to your thoughts right.
[01:00:56] Vahasya you meet intuitiveness we meet the guidance we meet and feel you a face
[01:01:01] may know that he also uses his thoughts to silence you. Yeah in scripture such as silence I have
[01:01:08] that every thought has a life span of five seconds okay if we can develop a witness like
[01:01:15] attitude and just look at our thoughts and not react to it every thoughts will die within its
[01:01:21] life span of five seconds but the problem of the life is that we are reacting to every thought.
[01:01:28] So that's the entire journey of you from the action to response. The day we can just
[01:01:35] witness a thought and stop reacting and you know try to respond that's when we become the silence.
[01:01:45] So if our five seconds one life time is our thought then we will come back with a
[01:01:51] seven or seven or seven or seven hours of thought. So every thought was going to react
[01:01:59] to that. And that's what meditation is about you know watching your thoughts and once you develop the
[01:02:22] habit of watching your thoughts you really don't have to try this heart as it is sounding.
[01:02:29] So then you are just watching your thoughts and slowly we will see that from your impulsive
[01:02:34] self you become a person who you know takes a seat back and then responds. So basically it's the
[01:02:43] pause between the reaction and response. Meditation is that pause and we all need that. Yeah
[01:02:51] a lot of the culture about the past segment. There are two things that we require.
[01:02:58] The first thing that you have in life time is that you have to be a human being.
[01:03:05] Because becoming better and the purpose. So when we are in a thoughtfulness state,
[01:03:14] how do we I mean, it's also angered, jealousy is being hit, it's being everyone is coming.
[01:03:20] Right? So, what's the technique really? Do we always keep watching that now it's
[01:03:28] going to be difficult for you to get a good idea?
[01:03:32] Like can you actually go thought by thought?
[01:03:35] No, not so much.
[01:03:37] No, yes.
[01:03:38] So, thoughtfulness is that see thought what we are normally living is a thoughtlessness.
[01:03:48] Okay? If we thought that thought will be a thought or a way to go.
[01:03:53] So, anger is also coming.
[01:03:55] Right?
[01:03:57] Ancestious is coming.
[01:03:58] For example, now you are not suffering that anger.
[01:04:03] You understand?
[01:04:05] Okay, first of all, I'm angry.
[01:04:06] Now I'll just go and get a good idea.
[01:04:08] Yeah.
[01:04:09] You know? You're going to get a good idea.
[01:04:10] So, I'll just go and get a good idea.
[01:04:13] Right?
[01:04:14] Now your anger has become with awareness or thoughtfulness.
[01:04:19] I'm getting angry.
[01:04:20] I'm getting angry.
[01:04:21] Okay, control yourself.
[01:04:23] I'm getting angry but I have to be in control.
[01:04:28] I don't know if I can get angry.
[01:04:30] I'm getting angry but I have to regulate my anger in a way that
[01:04:35] what I can do in this problem is solution to.
[01:04:39] I'm getting angry.
[01:04:41] I have to shout at this person but I'm not shouting in a way that I'm losing my control.
[01:04:50] My anger is not in control.
[01:04:53] I am in control.
[01:04:54] I'm not suffering that anger.
[01:04:57] But for the thought practice of Sadhana and Bhagavan's blessing,
[01:05:02] it's a blessing that we're not suffering from our actions.
[01:05:08] It's a thoughtfulness that you're getting angry
[01:05:12] and thinking about the right thing in the mind.
[01:05:16] But it's a blessing that you're doing everything you're doing.
[01:05:20] It's a blessing.
[01:05:22] But at least sit and relieve that moment.
[01:05:28] I'll say to him, I'm the second one.
[01:05:31] Next time, when you're doing this lesson,
[01:05:34] we'll do it.
[01:05:36] We won't do anything.
[01:05:38] We won't do anything.
[01:05:39] We forget all the lessons.
[01:05:41] You will forget the lesson because
[01:05:43] when we're doing this lesson,
[01:05:45] it's a blessing that the blanks are going on.
[01:05:49] It's a blessing that we're talking about.
[01:05:51] So I'm talking about the conscious programming.
[01:05:55] I think it's time to talk about this.
[01:05:58] So this is the moment of anger.
[01:06:06] It's a blessing that you're doing everything you're doing.
[01:06:07] It's your subconscious teaching to yourself,
[01:06:11] your practice that will help you,
[01:06:13] you're conscious of your anger.
[01:06:16] But subconsciously,
[01:06:17] you're not suffering from anger.
[01:06:20] You're not suffering from anger.
[01:06:21] You don't want to help your health.
[01:06:24] You're not suffering from anger.
[01:06:26] You're not having to charge your health.
[01:06:28] It's a momentary,
[01:06:30] and like a bubble, it went off.
[01:06:33] That is where we are all endeavoring
[01:06:36] to reach in which we'll do a cable.
[01:06:39] No, you can't accept it.
[01:06:42] This is what I could have done better.
[01:06:45] Next time when anger comes,
[01:06:47] again,
[01:06:49] It is all a journey but we have to keep trying, keep trying.
[01:06:54] And one day it will happen.
[01:06:55] It's a subconscious programming.
[01:06:58] One again very beautiful thing that you said in the last segment was about getting the base
[01:07:03] of everything, especially in depression or anxiety or a sub-pubacarity.
[01:07:08] They lies the feeling of self-unloved for not loving yourself and at the base of every
[01:07:17] anger, if I see your jealousy or all these other vicar, that there is an expectation
[01:07:25] of it.
[01:07:27] Absolutely.
[01:07:28] Especially when one of your leg is in materialism and one is in the spiritualism, which
[01:07:33] is a very difficult balance because in materialistic life you have to do everything
[01:07:40] out of your desires, out of your ambitions, goals, responsibilities, you have to do everything.
[01:07:46] And it's a change in that.
[01:07:48] It's a karma, you're doing it, you're receiving it, you're doing it, you're receiving it.
[01:07:52] So, expectation is a very important thing.
[01:07:54] I think it's a good thing for him to do it.
[01:07:57] I thought, why is my husband coming here?
[01:08:01] Simple.
[01:08:01] It's not that much.
[01:08:03] It's a life-class scenario, a child and a parent's scenario.
[01:08:07] If I ask you to ask me why you're going to stop me.
[01:08:10] Now, you have a question.
[01:08:11] You have an unfulfilled expectation.
[01:08:14] how do you really, you know, manage expectations. I think expectations one of the other
[01:08:21] expectations of yours with your own self. How do you get to that equilibrium and balance
[01:08:28] with yourself there? See, you'll be a key to this. You can only work on this being.
[01:08:35] You cannot work on anybody else. You have to manage your own, trust me, your
[01:08:44] own. That's the way it is not as easy as it is sounding. Today, we are two abundant human being
[01:08:50] sitting here and discusses spirituality. You know, up and down of emotions. We have to realize
[01:08:56] that finances also be a big part in our life. But what is also a reality is that
[01:09:05] the world's most important and most important is the world's most important and most important
[01:09:11] to tell a big question. So what I am pointing out here is that your expectations
[01:09:18] to yourself, who are unable to understand their own characteristics and their own satisfaction.
[01:09:28] Satisfaction. Your self satisfaction is really in yourself. It is not as we discuss
[01:09:36] in our last segment. You cannot seek validation outside. Similarly, you cannot seek love
[01:09:44] and happiness also outside. That is why that child is happy and dirt and you are not happy
[01:09:50] in the most hygienic environment also. So because that child is happy in itself, it does
[01:09:58] not require the worldly materialistic things to be happy. Children are the best example
[01:10:05] of happiness. If you are a child, you are very afraid that you will be happy with your
[01:10:12] children. It is a fact. You know, we don't have children, we don't have children. We
[01:10:19] don't have to worry about our children. So that is what we have to learn from children. That
[01:10:25] you know, your self satisfaction, self love. I am not talking about selfishness as I said,
[01:10:33] you have to live your life with awareness that I love myself is a reality and I love myself
[01:10:43] unconditionally, but that does not mean that I am not responsible for my family. That does not
[01:10:50] mean that I am not responsible for my studies or my well journey or my work that does not mean
[01:10:57] that I am not responsible for the society. I am responsible to everyone, but I have an innate
[01:11:05] compassion towards myself which nobody can move. If there comes a situation where I have to choose
[01:11:13] between a very stressful environment and my self satisfaction, you should have that bravery
[01:11:22] to give a give up that situation which is pulling your down and choose yourself. Wow.
[01:11:32] That is what we do not do. We go to the center of the situation.
[01:11:36] Because it was a situation where we would have such a situation, which you should have a materialistic
[01:11:41] look, look at the way you want to. So that is how it looks. That is very difficult
[01:11:49] to have that level of attachment from that attachment. It is like dissonance and resonance,
[01:11:59] but unless an until dissonance is there, resonance will not come. Wow. The very deeper.
[01:12:08] I think today's episode of our coffee coffee coffee is going on in the coffee depth.
[01:12:15] Actually I am sharing my life experiences. This is what I say. You will not be able to say that you are
[01:12:23] all these are my learning from my mistakes. Although they are also being validated by scriptures after
[01:12:32] I read a lot of scriptures because I love Indian culture. I am a very tasty proud,
[01:12:39] very tasty person and so I read a lot of scriptures. So you think we are going to meet our
[01:12:44] friends with our ancestors. Absolutely. You have a good scripture that you are not saying
[01:12:52] that you are going to tell me about your own calling but trust me, Indian scriptures have answers.
[01:12:59] Or any of you belong to any religion, you will not be able to teach anything.
[01:13:06] You are also going to be able to learn from any religion, you have written your own scripture.
[01:13:11] And you are also going to learn from them. You are also going to learn from them.
[01:13:37] And I think that we are all Shakti Kagu.
[01:13:42] And two large extent, I also know.
[01:13:45] We are all ordinary Shwad.
[01:13:48] But Madur's house is really nice.
[01:13:52] And this is my mother's house.
[01:13:54] And this is a lot of cute.
[01:13:58] And I am also an animal communicator.
[01:14:01] So my journey, animal communication.
[01:14:04] Initially it helped me to connect with animals.
[01:14:08] But as I have practiced it more and more, it connected me to everyone.
[01:14:13] It helped me to connect to objects that we feel are not really life.
[01:14:20] But everything in this world has universal consciousness.
[01:14:24] Likewise she also has.
[01:14:26] And I can, if I am speaking to you in my consciousness,
[01:14:30] I can speak to her as well.
[01:14:33] So that's my connection to her.
[01:14:34] That's why she is here.
[01:14:35] Because she is hired that she has to go wherever I go.
[01:14:39] Then so we will choose my mother.
[01:14:42] So I cannot say no.
[01:14:44] That's my only connection with Kali.
[01:14:46] So she is.
[01:14:47] I have surrendered myself because.
[01:14:52] There was a good time when they don't upon me that whatever I am trying to do,
[01:14:57] I am trying to do out of my limited knowledge.
[01:15:01] But God, Universe, Kali, Durga, Shivaw, whatever name we give to them,
[01:15:07] They are unlimited now.
[01:15:09] So why don't I allow them to take over.
[01:15:12] And that was the day when I really surrendered myself.
[01:15:17] Of course, Kavi Kavi is a good thing.
[01:15:19] And of course, we have to also do some things to carry the journey all.
[01:15:29] But in a larger aspect of my mental big,
[01:15:36] I know that they are the ones who are driving me.
[01:15:41] So whatever work that you are doing, whatever things that you are manifesting,
[01:15:45] Opportunities that are coming you way, whatever that you are,
[01:15:48] You know, instrumentalizing or getting instrumentalized through you.
[01:15:52] It's in surrender to the higher.
[01:15:53] Of course, they know what is there for me.
[01:15:56] So my heart will kill you.
[01:16:00] That's another way to live.
[01:16:03] Absolutely, I think it will take us a conscious of a lifetime to really get there.
[01:16:07] But absolutely fabulous speaking with you.
[01:16:10] However, I've wished to go on and on like forever.
[01:16:14] This conversation is not tiring.
[01:16:15] He does not exhausted me and is endless.
[01:16:19] Honestly, I'm talking about it.
[01:16:22] But we do have a positive time.
[01:16:26] And we are headed to the last segment of this show, which I call,
[01:16:30] Which is my personal favorite also, which we call rapid reflects round.
[01:16:37] The volume of questions are very important.
[01:16:39] But these are the questions.
[01:16:41] In the case of a short term,
[01:16:44] You have to take a word and a sense of uncertainty.
[01:16:48] It's not a social thing.
[01:16:49] So it's just like a fun side rapid fire kind of around,
[01:16:53] Which has no hamper to it, of course.
[01:16:55] So are you ready for this?
[01:16:56] Absolutely.
[01:16:58] So let's get started with the rapid reflects round.
[01:17:02] So just finish this sentence for me.
[01:17:05] Joy to you is family.
[01:17:08] Your true purpose of life.
[01:17:10] It's surrender.
[01:17:13] If not sound.
[01:17:15] I'm not there.
[01:17:18] Anjali is a cute girl.
[01:17:26] Okay.
[01:17:28] What completes you?
[01:17:31] First thing that is a must do for you, like first thing in the morning.
[01:17:35] Jallanti.
[01:17:37] Okay.
[01:17:38] The thing which is the last to do on your list.
[01:17:42] Um, kissing and hugging my children. That's how I sleep.
[01:17:46] All right.
[01:17:48] Travel to you is.
[01:17:50] Oh, it is my life.
[01:17:53] Okay. Never have you ever.
[01:17:56] Never ever, ever, ever climb Mount Everest.
[01:17:59] Okay.
[01:18:00] Thank you.
[01:18:04] I think that he never ever ever ran away.
[01:18:06] He was like, I'll be with you.
[01:18:08] And one thing that you would like to tell your 16 year old self.
[01:18:16] Oh, you asked him so hard.
[01:18:21] I'm sure you do remain a writing the pages only when we have them.
[01:18:31] Never have you ever said that before either.
[01:18:34] Yeah, because I was a tomboy.
[01:18:35] Okay.
[01:18:37] And one thing that you'd like to say to your husband,
[01:18:41] Can I get his name?
[01:18:43] Puneed.
[01:18:44] One just one thing that you would want to say to him.
[01:18:46] I love you.
[01:18:49] Something that you've never said before.
[01:18:51] Something that I've never said before.
[01:18:55] Come back home and see you.
[01:19:01] Any favorite book, one top favorite book that you have?
[01:19:04] Become a better you.
[01:19:05] Become a better you.
[01:19:07] Do it.
[01:19:07] Do it.
[01:19:11] And one thing for your loved ones, your mother, anything that you would want to say to her since she's your role model.
[01:19:19] Just be there. Keep yourself alive.
[01:19:23] I don't know what side of it.
[01:19:24] Actually just got triggered.
[01:19:27] But we are having fun.
[01:19:28] And one thing about unbound the show.
[01:19:31] We boundless.
[01:19:37] Thank you so much, Andri.
[01:19:38] For truly being unbound and truly sharing your joy, your journey, your purpose,
[01:19:44] Your fun side with us.
[01:19:46] It's been awesome having you on the show.
[01:19:48] Thank you so much, Manta.
[01:19:50] I learn every time I meet you.
[01:19:53] Thank you so much for having me on the show.
[01:19:55] Not for now.
[01:19:57] Thank you so much for tuning into this episode.
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