The Trembling Of Cucurella

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me, how does the new Flensburger beach look like?

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Strong!

[00:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: What?

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Strong!

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: What?

[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Strong!

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Again?

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Strongly mild!

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Strong as the wind and as mild as the sunlight.

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Flensburger beach, unfiltered like the real north.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Believe me, it's more.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show, Raghav Mandawa,

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: comedian, Arsenal fan,

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: all-round asshole is here.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Way to go.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm sorry.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Raghav, I have not met you or spoken to you in a very long time.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: We are catching up after a very long time.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So all the love that is there in my heart, no for...

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: That was a very bro intro.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: How is it?

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all in the first minute.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But Mandi, of course, for long time listeners of The Corner Flag,

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you will know that Mandi has been on the show.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he's been on the show once.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Prashant and Mandi both say that he's been on the show twice.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what happens when we get an Arsenal fan on the podcast.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: No one remembers.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah man, pretty much my wife and I were thinking like,

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: are you the only Arsenal fan amongst comedians?

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You and Tushar Abhichandani.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there is one more.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Tushar is also an Arsenal fan.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's littered with United and Liverpool fans

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and Chelsea one here and there.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But amongst comedians there are only two Arsenal fans.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It's surprising because you would think

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: comedians would want to hate themselves a lot more.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, but it's a time.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: We all have those silly democratic values

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: which resonate with Wenger's philosophy and things like that.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought there would be more in that sense.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I think even comedians draw the line somewhere.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe they all just sell out assholes.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like us, you know, the sell out assholes right here.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Glory Hunters as we were called.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is weird because I have seen kids

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: who support Man City call United fans Glory Hunters.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, bro, yeah.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Irony, you should think about it.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait for this fucking club to go down.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I really cannot.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I really cannot.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I know you had sent me a list of topics

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but do you know the bookies odds for City to go down the Seherah?

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_04]: What?

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: To give you context, Arsenal and Liverpool is 1-250.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: To get relegated.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: To get relegated.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: OK.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: City is 1-17.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's not bad.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It should have been 1-15 for poetic justice.

[00:02:55] What?

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that Pep Guardiola and his squad

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: are the 10th favourite club to go down

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: according to people who always make money

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: when it comes to booking, when it comes to these bookies stuff.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Or they must have just gone like,

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_02]: hey man, it just might happen

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and we can't lose all of this money

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and maybe they're hedging their bets.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But even then you would do 1-100 or 1-50.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: 1-17 is crazy.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It is.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean the hearing is going to start from September

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: verdict to be announced in 2025.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So there is some light at the end of that tunnel

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but we shall get to that.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Raghav, of course, I did send you a run order.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That is just a suggestion.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Going off topic is always great here.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean the reason why you're here,

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: firstly is because you're a good friend,

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: you know football and you're an Arsenal fan

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think the Arsenal fan bit of your personality

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: is what trumps everything else.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we get a lot of hate saying,

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you guys call Arsenal fan,

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Arsenal representation.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Arsenal representative.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And we make one of that, like who gives a fuck and all.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who cares?

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Like honestly I ignore a lot of my peeps as well.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just Arsenal, let's be honest.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Every football fan is a little bit shit.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like every football fan.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to be.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to be.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You have to be a bit of an idiot to be a football fan.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I genuinely believe that if you were a WWE fan

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a 90% chance you'll become a football fan

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: because it's the same thing with reality.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you draw these narratives around these characters,

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: you find a bit of yourself in these characters

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's the same amount of stupidity when it comes to...

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And when you're a kid you want to be them.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And you don't know when Undertaker will come back.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You have no idea.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You have no idea when Undertaker is going to come back.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You have that sound of growing.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's very similar,

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: like the WWE fan and the football fan.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're very similar in terms of their immaturity

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and jingoism.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's true because we all,

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: when we were kids we started off as WWE fans.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: We used to joke slam.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We used to say suck it without even realising what that even meant.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Our balls hadn't dropped yet and we were like,

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: suck it.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And we were like, what are you doing?

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You 12 year old child.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we were like,

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: okay fine, after a point we were like,

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: okay this is obviously fake.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to something else and football was the next.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a shame that more adults don't watch WWE.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to try getting back into it because the writing is incredible.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's phenomenal.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's incredible writing.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: May I just take a little detour on the WWE thing?

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Go for it.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: One of my favourite arcs in WWE

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: is Triple H kidnapping the owner Stephanie McMahon.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I remember.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Drugging her and getting married to her in one of the Las Vegas chapels.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Broke!

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You can go, this is WWE canon.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Triple H.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, Pantomine villain.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Kidnapped Stephanie McMahon, it's McMahon's daughter.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He takes her to a church.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: One of those Vegas like 32nd wedding churches.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: She's passed out in the car like,

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm beside her and everything.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So when the priest asks Triple H,

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He says, I do.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: When he asks Stephanie, who is clearly, clearly passed out.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband?

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Triple H just leaves over her and goes, I do!

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you serious?

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And the priest believes it.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Now they're unlawfully married.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It gets better.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_02]: If I remember this part correctly, it gets better.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So now Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_02]: have a match with Triple H to free their daughter.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And at one of the McMahon's had pinned Triple H

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: or was about to win the match against Triple H.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And guess who interrupts the match with a steel chair?

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Stephanie McMahon.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She whacks her father and brother and goes,

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I love her.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I love her.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And I believe this.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: This was, I mean,

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Ekta Kapoor couldn't write a better article.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_02]: She could not.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: She could not.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I feel like in football, right?

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You also have similar investments

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_02]: into the bullshittery of narrative.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we all build these stories about these players

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and their personalities and everything.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And we kind of like,

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: like for example, Kukureya,

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: like that little rat bastard.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He's become a heel.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He is a heel.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a heel.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a proper, proper heel.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody wants to see him get slapped around.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody wants to make fun of him except for Chelsea fans.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: We all want to laugh at Kukureya.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a brilliant player,

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: but he's such a heel.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: He is.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And more on Kukureya in a bit

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: because we can deep dive into that shit

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: because what the fuck.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll start off with Arsenal

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: because if Arsenal fans have come to the podcast,

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: then we'll have to do the Maiman Nawaz.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, like the reason why

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: we thought we should kick off

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: the new Premier League season

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: with an Arsenal fan on the pod also

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: is because fair play

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: for all the banter that one might throw

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: in the direction of Arsenal and Arsenal fans.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: In the last two years,

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Miquela Teta has done really well with Arsenal.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it's been without its funny moments

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: because there have been a lot

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and there is more coming right now.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But overall,

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: the progress that the club has made under him

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: is fantastic.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And it continued on the first day of the season as well.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: A very, very non-complicated

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: 2-0 victory over Wolves.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Kai Haberts and Bukai of Saka, man.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Who would have thought,

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: or at least as Prashant is a Chelsea fan over here,

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: would any Chelsea fan have thought

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that Kai Haberts actually had some quality in him

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: because what he was doing at Chelsea

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: was absolutely fucking rubbish.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But for some reason,

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Arte Ta is getting the best out of him.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a tall guy.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: He's given number nine to the club.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He's given number nine to the club.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And what a header he has given.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That was a great header.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But the cross was even better.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the year

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that you finally,

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: where rivals start finally putting respect

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: on Saka's name.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And people like him.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: People don't fear him.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_02]: People like him.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: They go over to a good boy and everything.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But nobody is terrified of Saka,

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: at least from the big clubs.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But is that because of his personality?

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because like you said,

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: he's a good boy.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He's such a cutie.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He's such a good boy.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He's such a cutie.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That smile can sell me anything.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's one of the most likeable people

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: in football right now.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And regardless of who...

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You could be a Spurs fan

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and it would be like,

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Saka's fan.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of like mankind.

[00:10:27] He's kind of like...

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Into his personality.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Mandy.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: The guy who had a sock puppet

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: as a prop.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Who used to fucking...

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Deep throat you with it.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He was very cute at a good boy.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like the thing is like

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_02]: there was something very endearing

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_02]: about mankind at the end of the day.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you want mankind to...

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_02]: What happened to you, Magnete?

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: What trouble has happened in your life

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: that was very interesting for you?

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The character that was mankind was very sweet.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_02]: The way he used to talk and banter and everything.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: However, okay let's get back to Saka.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: A, I don't think there's a nicer person

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: in football right now.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: There is one.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And why I think this year

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: might be a little different for him

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: because he's been talking about it

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: in his interviews and things like that.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Andre told him,

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you gotta bring some arrogance into your life.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this nice good Christian boy

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: is all very well and good

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: but on the pitch you have to be a bit of a bastard.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And like,

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I genuinely like to see Saka like

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: whinge a little more when he's kicked.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like stay...

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's his own mistake that he gets up

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and shrugs it off.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_02]: People say he's always limping because he's always...

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Look, none of you can take...

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: None of you people who talk about how Saka is limping all the time

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: can take the number of kicks he takes.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Your ankle will go, your shin will go,

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: you're not built for it.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's abnormal how strong Saka is.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_02]: This is one trait that people don't give him credit for.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: How ridiculously strong he is.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And this year, I think what set it differently

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_02]: is like after he scored his goal

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: he had a fairly arrogant celebration.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Usually he's like all smiles and everything.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This time he just went with the,

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: what are you gonna do?

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's me again.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know that it's me again?

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's gonna serve him well

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: in the scheme of things with the Premier League

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and as for Kai Havertz,

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it is proof,

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Kai Havertz is proof of what a non-toxic environment can do

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: to a sensitive person.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Kai Havertz isn't as per the quota

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: when it comes to personality.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you could throw anything at Aspey

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and he would be fine.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You could raid his house

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and tell him you have to go play the game right now.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He'd be fine because there was that dog in Aspey

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: that Kai Havertz isn't that dog.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He is a good of a goal.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Also from a completely different generation.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Completely different generation.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not as old as people think he is.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He's still a young kid

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: from a completely different generation

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: or...

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's why you see managers like Konte and Mourinho

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of struggle now

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_02]: because these kids are sensitive.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They're not like...

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to win at all costs.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you know that from Mourinho's

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: time it was the documentary

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_02]: All or Nothing,

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that scene where he is saying,

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So be a cut.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You can see the younger people like rolling their eyes.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: The younger players in that squad rolling.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like older people totally got it.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The younger people were like,

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: What is this?

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be a cut.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You might be okay with it.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: You can see what's happening with Kai Havertz

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: in terms of just a positive environment

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and also in Dundur

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea is in that place right now

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: where the Arsenal Oona years

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_02]: where the fans also hate the club

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: or hate what's going on in the club

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_02]: don't recognize or connect

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_02]: with what their club is up to.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So that has an effect on someone like Kai Havertz

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and you can clearly see that this is

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: something that he needs to

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that is helping him out

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: the sensitivity so to say.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Really funny moment in the game against Wolves

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: was when Moskera from Wolves

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: grabbed Gabriel Jesus' butt

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and then it was Jesus who got booked

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's damn funny.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there are refereeing errors

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and there is this which is just

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: what's the meaning of assault?

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It's proper assault

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: even his moment on Havertz

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like new season same old refereeing

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_02]: because how is that not a red card

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: because last year Kasameer was sent off

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: for just doing this

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_02]: he didn't even choke the plan.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He just put his hands on his neck

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: same as Rodry

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_02]: they were both sent off for just putting their hands on someone's neck

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Mosquito or whatever his name is

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go with that.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So this guy like when he's falling down on Havertz

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: if you watch the replays

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: his hand is going somewhere else

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and he makes a conscious decision

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: to turn it towards Kai Havertz's neck

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and then puts his body weight on him

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: like if anything like

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: this guy is into some kinky shitting

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: he's not getting it at home

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: because what the f...

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: like A you choke Kai Havertz

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and B I want you all to go see that replay again

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: alright there's a...

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: like when Jezu starts pushing it

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Moskera's hand actually clenches

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: further into his butt

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not making this up.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Do not check his Google search history

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he knows

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all over Reddit

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: those replays and alternate angles are all over Reddit

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and dude it's

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's one of those cases where

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: like Jezus cannot register a sexual assault complaint

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: because he'll be like victim blamed and gas lit

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: it's pretty much one of those cases

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: because like Jezus is like hand on butt

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: lot of people put hands on butts in football

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like you get that slap on the rump

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and all that like good job and all that

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: which is very non-cessual

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but this one

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not even like he's coming from behind

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: he's come from ahead

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: like he's come from in front of him

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: got his fingers in his crack

[00:16:58] it's...

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: you can already tell

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: what a fantastic season of the prem

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: this is going to be first game week

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and we have this dude

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: like this is just fucking next level

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: mental stuff

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: it's genuinely disturbing

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's also like

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: funny

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's also very disturbing

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: like if you go on Reddit and you go on the comments

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: a good chunk of people are like

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: why is this funny?

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: there's nothing funny about this

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and you know you have a point

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: but from disturbing yet funny

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the perfect segue

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: is to go to man united

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: disturbing also very funny

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: most times

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: but united actually kicked off the prem

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: league on friday with a 1-0 victory

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: over fulham 3 points in the bag

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: we were all very worried

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: we were all very relieved by the end of it

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a lot of thoughts

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: as a united fan about how

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that went out but I want to ask you guys

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: from chelsea and arsenale

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: what do you guys think of united this season

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: are you thinking of united

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: as another banter club

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: with another banter season

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: or are you seriously seeing progress

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: because

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: let me make this very clear

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: we are not going to be

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: going to have

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: a title charge

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: or anything

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: but just holistically speaking

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: do you think that there is

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: any level of improvement

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: any level of change of structure

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: some sort of positivity at united right now

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know man

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_04]: you know what we said muki and I said also last week

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_04]: like come on

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: like

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_04]: how is united going to come out with this

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: but muki is an asshole you have

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: a far more temperate sort of personality

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: see I'll tell you

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I saw the game

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I saw the first friday night game

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_04]: and genuinely I thought

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: that united will comfortably take the victory

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_04]: there was at no point

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that okay this is going to be

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: a proper battle

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_04]: but I understood that this is a home game

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: you know

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_04]: and I said okay maybe there might just be

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: something that might come out of it but

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't think that they would score

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_04]: that late into the game I thought they would have at least

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: finished with a 2-1

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_04]: or like a 2-0 at least

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_04]: that should have been but having said that it's just the first game of the season

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to be like a pain in the ass about it

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I genuinely think that united

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: may still

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_04]: be a banter club but they are not

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_04]: title contenders

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_04]: so more of the same basically

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah but like you're still

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: you're still going to come out with some really good

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: game some serious improvements from what

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_04]: you've seen last season because you've built

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_04]: like there has been time there has been

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: stuff that have been moving in the game

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: you can see the squad changing also itself

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_04]: you can see improvements in the gameplay itself

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: it's not like it is going backwards

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: unlike my club but fair enough

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_04]: so there's definitely something that you can look forward to

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: definitely not title contenders but

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: you know it's still something better than nothing

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I would

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: think although

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what the thing about united

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: is right like

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they're a club

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: both capable of

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: finishing fourth or ninth

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: they're

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: totally that club right now that they could finish

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: fourth or ninth

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: but my biggest concern is again I feel like

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: on the basis of that match

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_02]: on the basis of the fuller

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: match I do feel like

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: it's going to be another one of those seasons

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: where they

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like I mean I don't know how long can like

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: they keep getting away with it that's what my

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: thing is like you're not

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: you've got the squad to put

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_02]: teams away yeah and

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: every matches a contest

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah like that's what like how can

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: every match be a contest

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_02]: some matches should just be

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: like yeah like we've come here

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to win 2-0 3-1

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and go home but you

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_02]: allowed fuller 10 shots

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah in this match like

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_02]: three on target a couple of decent chances

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and again a late winner

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: what I don't know like it's

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: not sustainable

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: style I play I fully

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I fully agree with that but the only thing that

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I would add to that is if you compare

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: the last season I think

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: the first game that we played last season was

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Wolves at home

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and that too was a 1-0 victory

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: right and

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: what me

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and a bunch of other united fans took

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: from that game after that game ended was

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: fuck we're so glad that we got the three

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: points yeah but because

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: we absolutely did not deserve it

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: that was a shambolic performance Wolves were

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: clearly the better team

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: we were very lucky and then

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: it showed in the second match when we lost

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Brighton that we lost

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: in the second match

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: this time around

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: even though the scoreline was same and it was

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: a tough match it still felt like united

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: were far more composed than they've

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: ever been and this I've said in

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the community shield as well against

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: man city they were good against city

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: they were very good yeah and of course

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: yes you know Kabya

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: terms and conditions apply asterix asterix

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: city was playing a second string side

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: lots of youngsters

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: in the side and all but as I

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: mentioned in the episode when we

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: discussed the community shield cities

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: youngsters are a full-time level team

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: right if you if you look at it

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: that way yeah perhaps better

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: cities youngsters are a European

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: contesting team like there you go

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: there you go so it's not

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: so like performing it look performing

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: against anything which is got

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Pep Guardiola as a manager yeah is

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: a win in my mind like like

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: because

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: the fuck it's just too good man

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it's just like it's

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Harland is not the cheat code

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Pep is like

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Pep was winning league titles before Harland came around

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say Pep and Rodry

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: those two are the cheat codes

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and I would genuinely say Rodry is the greatest player

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: in the world right now but that's beside the point

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that's besides the point yes we'll

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: do cities of New York later

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but I felt like yeah

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: united did look a lot more composed

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: see my thing is like you can it

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_02]: works in a cup

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: but I yes that is

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: my biggest

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: you cannot you cannot allow

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: like let's be I

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: put Fulham to finish top half this year

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_02]: because they recruited well Marcus

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: seems to be yeah Marcus

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_02]: has got his shit going on like

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't seem to be any instability at the club

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: of any kind whoever had to be sold

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: is sold whoever had to be bought is bought

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: they're good and ready yeah right so

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like you know I X and

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Fulham is a decent club there

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: they're a tight well run

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: outfit yeah so

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: anyway is a good one

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_02]: against a tight well run

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: like it's not like you know it's not like you're

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: struggling against Southampton or something

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: however that being said

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: you gotta you just got

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to dominate games

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: absolutely especially when you're playing at home

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: especially when you're playing at home

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I just got me like season

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: you just got to dominate certain games

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah you got like and especially with

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: United squad this should

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: be dominating 40% of the league

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: yes but the only

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: argument that I'd make there is united are still

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: dealing with a lot of injuries Luke Shaw

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: is again injured because he was

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: featured in an adidas commercial

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: where he was giving fist bumps to random

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: people so of course

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: he's pulled up because of that

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Luke has got these games

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah exactly yeah he's had these games

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: quality but keeps getting injured

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: exactly Lenny Oro we signed

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: very exciting center half injured

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: in pre-season Erasmus Hoiland is injured

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and a lot of the stars

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: also came back from international tournaments

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: a little late and that is precisely why

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Eric Tanhag in his pre-match

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Prescott said that united were

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: not ready that was a very controversial

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: statement for a manager of

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: an elite club to make

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: but while the media

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: will have a field day about it as a united fan

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I get it if you just think about it rationally

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and if you understand

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: that this man

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: has come from Netherlands

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: from a country that are

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: well known for being

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: to the point and emotionless

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like there is no subtext

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: when it comes to touch people

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: he's really weird man

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: he's not even from

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: like an Amsterdam or something

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: he did manage IXS

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_01]: but he's a Gout

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: comparison I would make

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: is he's from the fucking interiors of India

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: dude he's from Hightline India

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: so he is not a polished

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: dude

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: when he's talking in

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: a language which is not his first language

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: that makes a big difference

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of people get a lot of shit

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because you realize a lot of people are

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: translating in their head as they're speaking

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly that's one

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: thing people need to give credit for

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: so if you think about it rationally

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: if you really understand what he's trying to say

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: he's not wrong because

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of the united squad

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: players came back late

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: but he doesn't know

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean he should know much better

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: because he's manager of United

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: it's been two years now

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_02]: but I get it

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: my issue with Den Haag

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: like and I don't think

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Den Haag is a man

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: to bring United

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like back to the

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: this thing

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_02]: to the

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to glory

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: or to like a competitive level

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: it's the one thing I love

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: if I may

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the fact that Arterta's

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_02]: project taking off

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_02]: makes a lot of people think

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that anybody can do a fucking project

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that is not the case

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_02]: you know like

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Arterta is a bit of a sociopath

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: of course he is

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_02]: he's a bit of a sociopath

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: he's a little crazy and the world should be

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_02]: grateful that he's in football management

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and not running a crime

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_02]: this thing or

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean if we wanted

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: to equity I had a bunch of big pockets

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: to fucking get

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah like it's crazy

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: in the sense like if

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: for example

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: one thing that has always impressed me about

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Arterta is from day one

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: his upward

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: management

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah like this is something people just

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: don't understand about Arterta

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that how did you

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: convince the owners

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_02]: on two separate occasions that you

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: got to throw away 13 million

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: pounds

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: that you got to throw away the Ozil money

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: you got to throw away the obama

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Ozil wasn't 21 million a year

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: he sat out for an entire fucking year

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: right he just told them

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: nowhere near my squad

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that takes a certain sort of nuance

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and like this thing to understand

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: like his upward management

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: let alone how to make the best out of

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like bad players and blah blah blah

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and all that all that all that

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: like I think

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Penhag is a great head coach

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: he would be a good head coach

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: he's not a manager

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he has

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: the people facing abilities

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he has the upward management

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: abilities I don't think he has the

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: bullshit management abilities

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: that an elite manager needs

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that I do agree with

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: that is possibly my

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: only criticism of him

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a good head coach

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very happy with him leading

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: united into this third season now

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and I just hope that with

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: the footballing structure that is now put in place

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: by Ineos above him that makes

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: his job a lot more easier

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_01]: he had to deal with a lot more fires

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_01]: so yeah exactly

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: we are all dealing with hope only

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: if Ineos

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: if the Ineos people have fired

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: 250 people

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_02]: in the club

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a lot of bullshit out of the way

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: like you know like

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Penhag has one of those situations

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: like look two clubs

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that haven't recovered from their autocracies

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_03]: are

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_02]: united and Chelsea

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_02]: united at Sir Alex

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Ferguson's autocracy

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_02]: there is no two ways about it

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_02]: it was a monarchy it was an autocracy

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever the fuck Sir Alex says

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: similarly with Abrahamovic

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: it was an autocracy

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: after you go from an autocracy

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_02]: to this thing

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that if Penhag

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: wanted like say

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_02]: he can add beetroot

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: to the menu

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: he probably had to get fucking six people's approval

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: like it was probably

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_02]: one of those management

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like it was probably one of those

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_02]: two tyap's going on at united

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: on a regular basis

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I can just imagine a scene where Penhag

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: goes like I want beetroot added to the

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: menu for the shot

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like you signed Anthony

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: who the fuck gave you the authority

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: to make any changes around here

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah yeah and yeah

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: whenever he had authority he dropped the ball

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: with it

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: like the Anthony

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: signing really killed a lot

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: of authority that he had

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_02]: in that sense

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he might have more like

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: power and autonomy now

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_02]: but I just don't think

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: he has the people skills it takes

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: we shall see how it goes

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_02]: you know even someone like Marineo

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_02]: who you assume does not have people skills

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: because of the way he talks to people in the media

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_02]: like if you go see him at some British

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: late night talk show

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: he seems like a very palatable

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like I'd like to share a beer with this guy

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: but with Tenag I think

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the conversation would be like so what do you do

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and a series of

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Orbataz

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: like it would be like

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: a flowing conversation

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: it would just be like what else is going on

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean but credit to him

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: he's picked up like two trophies

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_02]: he's picked up the effig up

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: which like I found it really funny

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: all united fans

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: which were laugh at arsul fans during the

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: bengal years that's all we would win

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: right and now you guys are like

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: oh my god it's a trophy

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: earlier he was like not a trophy

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: this is not a real trophy

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: even though these fuckers

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: weren't contesting for Champions League or league football

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I am looking like a doctor about my club still

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah pick up is not a trophy

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and now suddenly it's like

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_02]: we have silverware

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: carabau motherfucker

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: old-discup competition in the world

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah yeah all this bullshit is suddenly starting

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: because the

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: the discourse has now moved

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01]: from effig up is not a trophy to second place

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: is not a trophy so like the matter continues

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_01]: you know like it just goes on

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: just going back to the match really quickly

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: garnacho of course missed that sitter

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he also needs to get matched fit really fast

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: bruno had a bunch of chances that he missed

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and if you are an fbl manager who has bruno

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: in his team he has directly told you

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: that he is sorry

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's thankful that you trust him

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and that he will repay you

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: so I don't know 8.5 million in your midfield

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah get bruno

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't slack bruno man

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: he's our saka

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: like you can't really

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: no no no

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: no no no

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_02]: not likable

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_04]: he is likable no no no

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: bruno is likable but not as saka

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_04]: not as saka

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: bruno is likable to united fans because he's so fucking good

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and I shit you not

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: bruno would be in the world

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: class debate

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_02]: regularly if you wasn't

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: such a wingy little shit

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but you were saying saka needs to be more like bruno

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_04]: so you are saying saka needs to be more like bruno

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah a little bit

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: bruno is the complete

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_04]: bruno is better

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: bruno is the complete product

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: bruno is what bukayo saka aspires to be

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_01]: no no no

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: oh my god

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: sacrilege

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: no chance

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't make a degree in journalism

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: in such a way

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I have

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I know how to do

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_01]: sensationalism

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah okay

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah that is what journalism

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: is right now

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not truth it's sensationalism

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: it's sensationalism

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: we have to talk about that incident between

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_01]: lisandro martinez and adama

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_01]: adama of course known to be the tank

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: of volem because the guy's biceps

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_01]: are bigger than my face

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but lisandro martinez was chatting

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_01]: with jami karagat

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: for the sky sports post match

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and he was asked about

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: the shoulder barge that he

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_01]: put on adama

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and he said I sent him back

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: to the gym I learnt from the first

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: time when he killed me then I killed him

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: epic

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: adama has since replied on his instagram stories

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: saying ah well see you soon

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_01]: lisandro martinez which is just perfect

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_01]: this is a lovely little arc that's

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: building up between the two of them

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see a buddy cop film

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: between the two of them

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: adama and lisandro

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: just going on

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: just you know

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: it's bronze and slightly less

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: bronze I don't think there's brains

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: in that edition

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: but that would be a fucking amazing

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: buddy cop film

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: love to see it right on that note let's take a quick

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: break on the other side we'll talk about

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: chelsea city we'll talk about apswich

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Liverpool and the lack

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: of signings that Liverpool have had plus

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: fabian shares red card see you on the other side

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: welcome back to the corner flag everybody

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: we do not begin the second half with some

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_01]: questions because we got a lot of questions so what

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we're going to do is this week we're going to release

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: a special episode with just your questions

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: which will come out either tomorrow or day after

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: latest so don't worry

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: we're not going to ignore any of you guys

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: but we don't want to increase the length

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_01]: of this episode I don't know why I'm

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: explaining this to you guys my podcast

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: my fucking rules deal with it if you don't

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: like it fucking

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: don't go anywhere please listen to it because

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: you just lost them you just

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: lost them that's it if you're still there

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: please don't go please please please

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_04]: you've lost them all whatever

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_04]: was there whatever was being built up all

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: gone funny you're talking about losing

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: things Prashant because we are now

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: going to talk about Chelsea losing to

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_01]: nil to man ask me the question come on

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_04]: ask me the awesome

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_04]: question

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_01]: now come on no I feel

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_04]: like you need to ask me the question now

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: what's the question I'm gonna

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_04]: come on what was the

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: score yes

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_04]: score was one

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I tell you what like nobody

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: expected Chelsea to do anything Chelsea

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: got one goal also in this game no would have

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: been an upset I mean as an awesome fan

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I was hopeful I really shut up

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: come on but I was

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: okay I know that as an

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I played terrible to be honest

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: okay you guys give hope to everyone

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: wait no I don't think Chelsea

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: play terribly I need to

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: point this out as an awesome fan

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I know you know

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: what delusion means right

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: as a united fan even

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe board deluded if I

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: expecting something from Chelsea

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: against city this Chelsea especially

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: under a new manager but if you look

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: at that game if you look at that game

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea had very

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: good team play they were let

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: down by individual moments

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah like they were they had

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: very good team play they got the ball

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_02]: moving around they had some pressure on

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: city like they even got the ball

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: in dangerous places and then that

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_02]: final pass of the final touch

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_02]: which

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: most of the time to Jackson

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_02]: like okay they like in

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: a sense like they got in

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: they got in a few times

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but that is the thing right if you say

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that a team had very good team play

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: that is the bare minimum that an elite level

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: football team in the Premier League needs to be doing

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: usually it's the other way around

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: you play like shit and Kevin De Bruyne

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: saves you like usually it's the other way around

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah but I can imagine

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I can imagine

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: a mid table side which Chelsea unfortunately

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_01]: are as a united I don't know

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: why I need to again

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah you too are in that

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it's the best time to be an Arsenal fan

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: right now it really is

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really regretting getting on the show today

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_04]: not the regretting part but being

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_04]: on the top part but yeah

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: you have so many players and so many

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: fucking players who are all at

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_01]: varying degrees of

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_01]: let's not say elite but

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: close to elite right

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: like you too

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: actually it does seem like

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea can play but it's not

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: the case like you have to

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: be a certain level of player like you've got

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Pedro Neto you've got Mikhail Moudre who's not

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: done well but he's still a quality

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: player you've got Nico Jackson again

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_01]: who's not really a great finisher but

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: is still a quality player

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: there's so many

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: good players the least

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: you expect is

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: they'll be able to play with each other right

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: like that much but

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: they need to finish it as well right

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: they need to have that end product as well

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're saying that the individual moments are what

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: let them down

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: what is the point of having so many individuals

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_02]: since you're the Chelsea fan I think

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_02]: you should go first

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_04]: so with me for this game

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just being hopeful

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_04]: that okay if there's going to be anything that comes out

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_04]: of it they'll probably just walk away with

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: at least one goal and that

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: it looks like okay that they were only fighting

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_04]: for one goal

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_04]: honestly they would look like they were only fighting for that one extra goal

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: the second the second goal

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_04]: went through you could see the shoulders

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: drop they had given up the game

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_04]: that is a very very bad

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: university city

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think any club will give up

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: this is the first

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_04]: no guys this is the first game

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_04]: of the season at home

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_04]: you cannot start the game like that

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_04]: you play the game till the very end at least you fight

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_04]: for one more goal

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_04]: that is what the club should be

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_04]: at least fighting for

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_04]: at least the basic mentality that

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_04]: we are going to fight for that game

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_04]: should have come through it just looked like

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_04]: they just gave up

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_04]: even if they walked away with that mentality I said

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_04]: okay we still got something there

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: how you finish a game matters

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_02]: are you finish a game matters

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it leaves a sense of like

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_02]: bloody nose to the air

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: like city goal

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you can take something from it

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you can vary from that

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_04]: in this case I am just like okay

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_04]: last season we were a club that had a very

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: average age was so small

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_04]: and you have come back with a new manager

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and you are like okay he has got

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: absolutely young squad to play with

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_04]: let's see how he is going to mold the game in

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_04]: all of that now you have got

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: 2x the team

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_04]: with also a new manager

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_04]: you can imagine all the younger players who were there earlier

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_04]: and who are probably going to leave at some point

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_04]: they are just confused how do you start the season

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: confusion is the keyword

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: it clearly is

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: to this point

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: forget the players

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the commentators were confused

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: whenever they cut to the bench

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: who is he

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_01]: who is he

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: it was just a mess

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you are in absolute mess

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and you can't show that

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I understand that you are

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_04]: such a big club so many players

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_04]: a lot of myself scored

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_04]: you can't show that

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: you have to show yourself

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_04]: that at least you are a cohesive squad

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_04]: which Chelsea has failed to do so

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_04]: at least for the past 3-4 years

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: they have failed to do so

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if they manage to get some players out

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: of the team

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: they manage to get some sales in

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_01]: then that will give Enzo Merezca

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_04]: for them a sale is basically just alone

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: they will just send a player out

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever it is trim that squad

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and then Enzo Merezca

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_01]: has a chance to actually get

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_01]: that cohesive message

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Enzo cannot take a call on that

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_04]: it is not in his hands to do so otherwise

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_04]: like he said in the press conference that I need to get a double pay for that

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_04]: he actually said that

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_04]: that if I am going to decide

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_04]: the future of all the other players

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I require a double pay

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I love this mentality

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: always ask for what you are worth buddy

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and he is doing it full props for him

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_04]: but the problem is not even that

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_04]: he is going to have

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_04]: such a massive scale to climb

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_04]: like a big hill to climb through for the season

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_04]: so

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_04]: honestly even if just that one-one would have come through

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have been like okay I am fine with that

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: it is all going to shit

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: at Chelsea isn't it

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_04]: oh yeah yeah I have been hearing for how many years

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_04]: since this podcast is on bro

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_04]: what are you saying

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_04]: but there was a champions league victory for you

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: we can't hold on to that

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: man Chelsea supporters need to like

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04]: come on

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_04]: you got that trophy be happy with it

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_04]: move on

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it is crazy how

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_02]: one

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: after effect of the Ukraine war

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: is the fall of Chelsea

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_02]: because of that

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: if Abraham

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: which was around this club would still be a

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_02]: best

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: in the Premier League

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and in the champions league

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_02]: because Abraham

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_02]: just knew how to win

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and make people into winners

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and that was down to him

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_02]: he was the greatest thing

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that happened to that club

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_02]: honestly

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_02]: like the best owner

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and you know

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_02]: to be honest

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_02]: now you know what a Chutya owner looks like

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: it is like

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: usually

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_02]: usually the

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Chutya owners would like

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_02]: land up in a mid table club

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_02]: or a lower table club and

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: they would ruin a club that people wouldn't talk about

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: so much like say the fall of

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Blackburn Rovers

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: or

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: even Everton for that matter

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_02]: we dodged a bullet with that one

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: because the Kronke and Usman also

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_02]: battled for

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Arsenal

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and Usmanov eventually went to Everton

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but now you are finally seeing it

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: like at a

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: large scale at a club that

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_02]: quote unquote matters

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: to the world

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: on the world stage

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and I do not understand

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_02]: like I just don't see how this works

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: like okay fine

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_02]: like the eight year contracts

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I do see one benefit of it that you

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_02]: which you call it

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: inflation protect yourself

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_02]: from wages and things like that

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that's the logic behind the eight year contract

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that at least

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't think like even

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: that three years later

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: if say somebody wants to leave Chelsea

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and you turn around and say but you are on contract buddy

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you really think that player is

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_02]: going to give it all

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: like you think some player being told

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that you cannot go, you have signed a contract

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_02]: it is going to motivate him to stay

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and play better

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: no chance

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: so like I just don't see

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_02]: what the fuck is going on with this project

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: there's no

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: there's no clarity as to what they are trying to do

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody knows

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and also how Chelsea fans

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: just chill on the FFP and PSR

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_02]: things that could come and hit them

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_02]: with what's going on

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: like you don't see the thing

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea fans was saying that Todd's jack is

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: his IT department

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: has contact

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_01]: basically what they are working on

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that is basically it

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: like how many loopholes will this fucking find

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_02]: you know eventually it might just come to this

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: eventually it might just come to

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Todd Bowley saying

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: we are moving Chelsea football club

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: because

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: the Chelsea is

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: in a super primo part of London

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_02]: super primo

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and they might just be like

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: ha

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_02]: let's move

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: because this land

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_02]: with its billions

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: we are going to a little poor place

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: it could actually happen

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_02]: it happened to Wibbleton FC

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: on a much smaller scale

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but it could

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: don't rule it out this guy is crazy

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: absolutely

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_02]: how Chelsea fans are not like

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: my club might vanish

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's hit them yet

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that reality or that possible reality

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_01]: is not hit them yet

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: see the thing is that's why being a football fan

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_02]: you have to be Dilulu

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: to be a fan of your club

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: there is no level football fan

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: so that's

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_02]: where your Diluluness comes in

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_02]: right like

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think this is the Dilulu

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_02]: this is the Dilusion that Chelsea fans are living in

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that their fucking club

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: is in danger

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: don't worry about mid table competition

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02]: bro you might not be here in 5 years

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_02]: the way to odd is running this club

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: you genuinely might be gone

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_02]: from the Premier League

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: it happened to Leeds

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it happened to a lot of big clubs

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_02]: before it's not

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: what just because you've not seen it in your life

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_02]: time doesn't mean that it can't not

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: happen look at Barcelona

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: look at fucking Barcelona

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: there is so much trouble

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: like dude

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: it's fucking scary

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's what it will translate

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_02]: on the bitch

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: because all these players okay fine you've come

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and again you're signing players for the money

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and everything

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and again you're filling it with a bunch of mercenaries

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_02]: but you don't have that

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_02]: whip of Abrahamovic

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_02]: to make these mercenaries work

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_02]: you don't have that

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_02]: you could be out

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_02]: you could be gone tomorrow buddy

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you don't have that

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: so you have all the madness

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_02]: of buy whatever you want

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_02]: but you don't have that

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_02]: autocracy required to manage this

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: madness

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_02]: they've had 7 managers in 2 years

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_02]: 7

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_02]: like have you seen a slutty or team

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_02]: whatford

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: have worked on that many

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I think whatford

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_01]: have had 7 managers

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_01]: in 5 minutes

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_01]: while this conversation was happening

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they just changed the manager

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and Todd Bowley bought another player

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_01]: so that's just how

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_01]: this works out

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you could get enchilotti into that

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: fucking team man

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and it still wouldn't improve by much

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_02]: because it's a madness

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_02]: what is going on in that club

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_02]: like I bet over there

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_02]: if you ask for beetroot in the salad

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: people will be like

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you have to ask Todd

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_02]: he needs Todd's brooch

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel if you ask for a beetroot in the salad

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_01]: he will sign J beetroot and S salad

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: from fucking Georgian league

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and Greek league or something

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: fucking pro you were soccer

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: region players

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: now we've taken him to Chelsea

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that's what'll happen

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: but just coming back to the football

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: now if Todd Bowley check

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: coming back to the football

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Erling Harland is off the mark

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_01]: he got the first goal in this game

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_01]: it was amazing and poetically fantastic

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_01]: to see Mark Kukureya as the last defender

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and then even more

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: pleasing

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: to see Kukureya injured

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: asking Harland for help

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and Harland just smiling and walking

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: past him

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: beautiful

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Kukureya bit off way more than he could chew

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: when he went like in his drunken stupor

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_02]: when he said Harland trembles

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_02]: like a fucking odd man

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: can I please

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_01]: just point out and say

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_01]: that is the shittiest chant

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I have ever heard in my life

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: in my fucking life

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I have not heard a chant

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that is worse than this

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: if you have please

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: writing to us let us know

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: oh my god that chant is so bad

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: it's not just the way Kukureya sings it

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_01]: in all those videos that he's been singing it

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_01]: he sings it very badly

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but even the chant in itself

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: is just fucking

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_01]: terrible

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: there's no rhythm

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_01]: there's barely any rhyming

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_01]: what do you mean

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: what

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess he was just on a Euro high

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Euro win high

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that's the only excuse I can give him

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean that's what you do right

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like he dyed his hair red

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he is totally bipolar

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: off pitch on pitch

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_02]: like on pitch

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: total ass hole

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: off pitch

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_02]: he seems like a fun guy

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it seems like you could have a really good conversation

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and a funny conversation with someone like Kukureya

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: also

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: why are you picking fights man

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: have you met him

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: he likes to do shit

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_01]: also start a little low

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: like Nico Jackson trembles when Kukureya

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_01]: like start there

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_01]: no start with havertz

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: you can totally bully havertz

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: although havertz is quite a shit house

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: but yeah

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the game

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: he's not in good form

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: kick a man when he's down

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: why

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_01]: you know over it

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I have to say because maybe that will motivate

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Rashford to start scoring

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a personal agenda in this as well

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_01]: he's gone straight

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: there's that fantastic light in the wire

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_01]: if you come at the king you best not miss

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and boy

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: f**k did Kukureya f**king miss

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_02]: he showed a barge him

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_02]: with all his strength

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and Harlandin

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: barely f**ked it

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_01]: but he just seems like the guy who you would want to

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: shud like he is the guy you want to

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_01]: very punchable face

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and then you want to take him out for a beer

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: it makes no sense

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Kukureya makes no sense

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: let's go to Liverpool

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: let's go to Liverpool now

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: as we begin wrapping up the show

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: got a 2-0 victory over Ipswich

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Ipswich back into the Premier League after

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: more than 20 years

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: under Kieran McKenna former United

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: assistant manager they played really well in the championship

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_01]: they played well

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and they played well in this game as well I think the only problem was

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: the lack of experience

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_01]: really got to them because they played well for 60 minutes

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and ran out of speed

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and at that Armagh

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Diego Jota gets the goal

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: 5 minutes later Salah gets the goal and it's game over

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: then there's no coming back

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Armagh goes in Panic sets in

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Panic sets in another goal goes in

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_04]: you know just even how they

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_04]: you can see how Liverpool is just not being affected

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_04]: at this point

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and Salah still sending the ball through across in the centre

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_04]: very easily just comfortably getting

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_04]: through on both occasions so

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah very cool

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean Arnest lot seems like

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean very early to say because Ipswich again is very easy

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_01]: correct

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I've got nothing against

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Arnest lot

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: it's going to be really big shoes

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: of course it is

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_02]: let's be real

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: for the past decade

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Jürgen Klopp has been the best thing

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: at Liverpool

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: not the owners, not the players

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: not the team play

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: not Trent, not Salah

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: it's been Jürgen

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and Klopp has this

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: you know if you guys have played any video games

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: sometimes you get these characters who give

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_02]: buff auras

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that if this person is in the middle

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: of your army your army will be 25%

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: more effective

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like that's what Jürgen is

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: his ability to turn good players

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: into great players and great players

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: into elite players and average players

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: into good players

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: it was just by full Papa vibes

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_02]: that he just made

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_01]: he made everybody believe in themselves

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: he made everybody feel so good

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and that makes a big big difference

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_01]: especially at a time when he came to Liverpool

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: when Liverpool were not

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: a great club like they were

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: down in the dumps and he brought them

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: up from there and full credit there

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: look Liverpool beat Ipswich down

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_02]: away which is a trick

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_02]: let's be honest 22 years back

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_02]: bouncing environment like hostile

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: can be a banana skin

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_02]: proper banana skin

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and full marks to you for winning 2-0

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that ball by Trent

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that play was brilliant

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_02]: but that pass by Trent

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_02]: but now like

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_02]: A your squad is light

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_02]: alright

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I genuinely

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_02]: won't be surprised

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I still think they'll do it but I will not be surprised

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_02]: if Liverpool do not finish top 4 this year

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be surprised either

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they should realistically expect that

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_01]: either they should be happy with the 5th

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: 6th place finish as well

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_01]: they should have expected they have the squad

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_01]: but that's a squad that

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: is on its last legs

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Lixalas I mean yeah scored again

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_01]: in the first game of the season

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: record

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_01]: but he's not getting any

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: he doesn't have that

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: extra yard

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: he doesn't have that anymore

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Luis Diaz

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: great

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: but again they're not the

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Fominon

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: they don't have the depth right now

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_01]: they do have a proper number 6

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and they haven't made signings

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Martin Zubemendi was supposed to sign from Real Sociedad

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: he rejected Liverpool or rather

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Sausage dad made him stay because that's the

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_02]: La Via, Caicedo, Zubemendi

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: what is going on

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I was at club like Liverpool not attracting

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_01]: number 6 is beyond me

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: number 6 at Liverpool is the defence

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: against the dark arts position

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_01]: at Hogwarts basically

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_01]: it is cursed as fuck

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: it's cursed as fuck

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: like Milno was the last one or wait

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean no

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Fabinho

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: sorry my bad

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Fabinho was the last epic one

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know what's funny though

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: because they so they haven't made any signing yet

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_01]: they were going hell for leather

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_01]: after Zubemendi

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: would have been a great signing for them

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_01]: would have fit that exact

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_01]: description that they need in that team

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but obviously it did not work

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and they spent a lot of time on that signing

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_01]: only to be rejected the last minute

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: which is not a place that any club would like themselves to be in

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: now according to reports

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_01]: they are going after

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Georgian goalkeeper Georgio Mamar Deschwiti

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_01]: who had a decent Euros

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_01]: run with Georgia

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but you have Alisson

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and Kelleher

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Kelleher is a very good deputy

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_01]: unless you are saying that

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Kelleher is getting offers and he wants to leave

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and that is why you need a backup

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe that could be the reason

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but this

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: reeks of quota transfer

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_01]: look we transferred it

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_01]: for the name

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_02]: this is like that time in

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_02]: vengur only signed Pettichek

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: like just said

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_02]: when we were selling club

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and he just picked up one free

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Pettichek because Pettichek didn't want to move out of

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: London basically

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_02]: he was done at Chelsea

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_02]: he was like I don't want to leave London

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I am going to school

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and he was like it's not good that I let you know

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: because the Pettichek we got was not the Pettichek

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_02]: so he had so many years

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_02]: it was just one of those situations

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Liverpool like great win

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_02]: because the win is a win at the end of the day

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_02]: but ifswitch were in it

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: they were in it

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I am really excited to see how they do through as the season goes

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_01]: because

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think ifswitch stay up

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_02]: out of the three I think ifswitch is most likely to stay up

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_01]: look their first two games

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Liverpool man city their write-offs

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_01]: any sane manager regardless of how well

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_01]: you trained this team

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_01]: as a newly promoted team

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_01]: into the Premier League

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_01]: those two games are write-offs

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I think also like

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_02]: these two games I feel like are very important

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_02]: because

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_02]: for the players morale

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_02]: see they can genuinely be happy

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_02]: they only lost two in it to Liverpool

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: they just fucking hell man

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and the plot is that

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_01]: they are going to get from the footballing world

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_01]: as a whole from the media

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: from the fans because they fucking gave it

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_01]: a good show they gave

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_02]: if they get slapped by city

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_02]: like a four-nil, five-nil dives

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and then you lose one or two more

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_02]: after that then comes the

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_02]: are we not good enough for this league

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: basically they can't have that

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_02]: set in are we not good enough

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: for this league

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_02]: if that sets in it's over

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_02]: before even 35 games

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: 36 games happen

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_02]: with that bouncing environment

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: with that guys we are back in the prem

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_02]: we've made history not in two decades

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_02]: blah blah blah you can just keep that

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_02]: wind in your sail

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it should stay up

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_02]: generally speaking

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the team you don't expect to do anything

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_02]: from the new promoted ones

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_02]: are the ones who have this crazy high

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_02]: they reach the top half

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and then they survive towards the end

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_02]: they do that

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_02]: they can beat like top half of the table

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_02]: 7-8s and 14 games

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're like what are you doing

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: then they eventually catch it up

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll have that kind of season

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_01]: prime Barclays

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: primarily

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_01]: finally one last thing to talk about

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_01]: before we wrap up for the day

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: is that Fabian share

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the red card for Newcastle

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_01]: 10 men Newcastle winning one nil against Southampton

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben Bradett and Diaz from Southampton

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: made a meal of it

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: no doubt about it

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_01]: the amount he was booed by the St James's Park crowd

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_01]: just showed you how ridiculous that was

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but come on Fabian share

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_01]: you're way better than that

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_01]: you're way more experienced than that

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand how he got drawn into that shit

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_01]: because that is

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_01]: job fucking well done by Ben Bradett and Diaz

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah great shit housing

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_02]: epic shit housing

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: because he also moves his head in

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: he also moves his head in

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_02]: for the

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: headbutt or whatever

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_02]: but he just remember he probably went like

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna move my head in and as soon as his mother fucker touches me

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going down he

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: totally premeditated

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Fabian bit

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and went down

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_02]: however

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_02]: however however

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_02]: not a red card

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_02]: headbutt

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not a

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_02]: players clash their heads in argument

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_02]: all that like

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but that's not

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that's not up for debate anymore

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_01]: with the new rules like any sort of violent

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: conduct which I mean of course with Mosquera as we spoke about

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_01]: earlier on in the show it should be

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_01]: violent and sexual

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_04]: pent up violence sorry

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_01]: it was obvious yeah it was a definitely

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_01]: a red card definitely

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: under the new rules

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_02]: they keep coming up with new rules every year

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_02]: like even this year they

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_02]: apparently changed the handball in the penalty box

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_02]: rule again

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah yeah

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: which is what the city handball was

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah yeah

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in close quarters he can't do anything about it

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_02]: so not a penalty

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: which I mean

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand the rules anymore

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: like I don't know

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_02]: can we spend some time

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_02]: talking about the refereeing

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: it makes no sense

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: EPL refereeing is so bad

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it really makes no sense

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: not fun anymore

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it shouldn't be this bad

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: like how

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: do Spanish and Italy

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and Germany not have so many

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: complaints about against the reps

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: EPL refereeing has become a parody of itself

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it is

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it is the point where you're like

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: how they're a joke so let's be a

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: joke like let's lean into the fact

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it's worse than that

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a conglomerate

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a mafia lord situation

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: like for example

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe they're bringing in the AI

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: offside thing at some point in the year

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: why not just start with it

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: they're bringing it after one

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: or two international breaks

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: why not just start with it

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: you didn't make software

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_04]: AI is still learning

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_04]: they have to go through

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: they didn't get updates

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_04]: AI has to learn from all the past mistakes

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_04]: then you have to restart

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: to update the software in the middle of the game

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_04]: then they have to look at

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_04]: inexperience referees to match

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: the referee the games

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_04]: so all of that is going to be

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: they're downloading it

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: they're downloading it on java script

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: on flash player or internet explorer

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: that is why it is taking a little time

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: but yes

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: we should wrap up because

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: sorry to cut you off but we are running out of time

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: we should wrap up now

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: because if we talk about referees

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll go on for three days

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: we have to call the others for this one

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll do more like

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: refereeing, chutiap, conversations

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: just one line if I may share

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: which was by

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: vanguari got fine for it

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: he's like

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: every year you don't send

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: referees to the world cup

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: the world cup doesn't take any of your referees

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_02]: but you find me when I question their decisions

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: this is one of my favourite

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: these things

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah they just won't have

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: group stage

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: English referee can't get anything

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: can't get anything

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: absolutely right and on that note

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: it is time to end this show thank you so much everybody

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[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and you can find me on Instagram at Amohugran Dewey

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[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: really helps if you just visit and then leave

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that makes no fucking sense why would you do that

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: basically

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: so you know just go and hit that button

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[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: shout out to Kesar Garda for composing

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: our theme tune and until next week

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it is goodbye from us so say bye Prashant

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: bye guys

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_01]: say bye Rajab

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Cheerios and it's bye from me