"Eras Come To An End"

[00:00:00] They play good football, Liverpool and Man City. I like their way of play, but Eras Come To An End.

[00:00:05] And an era has definitely come to an end. Eric Ten Hag has been sacked.

[00:00:09] Welcome to The Corner Flag, I'm Amogh.

[00:00:11] And I'm Prashant.

[00:00:16] Welcome to the show, everybody. Joining me today on The Corner Flag is Prashant Nair sitting in Dublin, Ireland.

[00:00:24] So he's as close to the action in the Premier League as we can possibly get.

[00:00:30] But that is not the only reason why we have got him here.

[00:00:33] Prashant is a dear friend. He is also an active member of the United Supporters Group Mumbai.

[00:00:38] Which should be your membership because you are not in Mumbai, Arimotro.

[00:00:43] No, I mean, I've been with the Supporters Association for almost 15-16 years.

[00:00:50] Fuck, that's a lot.

[00:00:52] I've been there since ages. I don't even remember.

[00:00:56] I can say so much, I was in college.

[00:00:58] I was in engineering at that time.

[00:01:00] So I'm taking membership.

[00:01:02] And I go to Old Trafford.

[00:01:05] I was last year in West Ham game, which was very tough.

[00:01:07] And in this West Ham game, the manager is going to run.

[00:01:12] What a poetic introduction considering the events that have happened.

[00:01:18] But yeah, that's genuinely fucking amazing.

[00:01:20] Because even I supported West Ham.

[00:01:25] No, sorry.

[00:01:26] I supported United.

[00:01:27] Actually, might as well.

[00:01:28] Might as well in this point support West Ham.

[00:01:30] What's the difference?

[00:01:31] No, I started supporting United late 90s, early 2000s.

[00:01:35] But joining the Supporters Group happened much later.

[00:01:38] When I knew that I could get a membership, I could get a group.

[00:01:41] And I could get a disposable income.

[00:01:43] I was like, Old Trafford, Man United membership.

[00:01:48] I could throw money in the country.

[00:01:49] So that was a much later thing for me.

[00:01:53] But yes, we've known each other from the group.

[00:01:55] And Prashant, for dear listeners who have not heard of him, met him, seen him, is a very astute observer of football.

[00:02:05] Like, we have had so many intense chats.

[00:02:08] We don't always agree on our opinions.

[00:02:11] But it has always been a fantastic chat about the different opinions that the two of us have.

[00:02:16] So I thought it would be perfect to have you on.

[00:02:19] Perfect.

[00:02:20] Thank you.

[00:02:20] Thank you so much, Amok.

[00:02:21] But I don't think in today's scenarios, opinions matter.

[00:02:25] I mean, today's what happened.

[00:02:27] I mean, writing was on the cards, Amor.

[00:02:29] Yeah, it was.

[00:02:30] It was.

[00:02:30] As much as it hurts me to say this, it was.

[00:02:33] And before we dive deep into that, dear listeners and viewers, because we are also on YouTube now.

[00:02:39] Typically, what happens on this show, like I was already talking about Prashant before we hit the record button.

[00:02:44] Typically, the corner flag is a football podcast about all football.

[00:02:49] Predominantly Premier League football because the mind of watching the night and the love of Liga

[00:03:18] I was invited for dropping this news about one hour before we start recording the show or two hours before we start recording the show.

[00:03:23] So very, very considerate of them.

[00:03:26] We are going to take that run order that I had created, which I didn't send you because I was like pointing in.

[00:03:31] And we are going to throw it out the window because, yeah, Man City won with Southampton.

[00:03:37] Liverpool-Arsenal.

[00:03:38] Big game.

[00:03:38] 2-2.

[00:03:39] Okay, cool.

[00:03:40] Liverpool-Arsenal.

[00:03:42] Liverpool-Arsenal.

[00:03:42] Arsenal-Liverpool.

[00:03:43] Trophy, right?

[00:03:44] Arteta-Ka-Trophy, we played good football.

[00:03:46] Exactly.

[00:03:47] Arteta-Ka-Tactical Masterclass is not sure for this game and suddenly Bukai-O-Sakai starting line-up.

[00:03:54] I mean, Mourinho-Level football played entertaining football in Arsenal.

[00:03:57] So, okay.

[00:03:59] So, that's all.

[00:04:00] That's all.

[00:04:02] Ipswich versus.

[00:04:03] Who was it?

[00:04:04] Ipswich versus?

[00:04:06] Oh, excellent.

[00:04:06] Brentford.

[00:04:07] Yeah, Ipswich-Brentford was a very good game.

[00:04:09] Game 4-3.

[00:04:10] It was a very good game as a neutral because as a United fan, literally Ipswich versus

[00:04:18] Bournemouth was, sorry, Ipswich versus Brentford was a far more entertaining game and a far

[00:04:23] more fulfilling game for us.

[00:04:26] So, that's all.

[00:04:29] Now that we have taken care of all of that, that is our in-depth review of Game Week 9.

[00:04:34] Let us talk about the man of the moment or the man of the moment that has passed.

[00:04:40] Eric Ten Hag has been sacked by Manchester United.

[00:04:42] The club statement said that he has left his position as first team head coach of Manchester

[00:04:49] United with immediate effect after two trophies and two seasons and nine points, oh sorry,

[00:04:55] 11 points in nine games.

[00:04:57] It is time for that era to end.

[00:05:01] Prashant, your opening thoughts.

[00:05:03] Let's have it.

[00:05:05] Yeah, I was telling you, I'm not sad or happy.

[00:05:09] I mean, I wanted to go last year.

[00:05:12] But we extended the contract.

[00:05:16] Writing was on the wall.

[00:05:17] Well, I think you were going to give a match on Liverpool.

[00:05:22] I mean, you had a discount on Liverpool.

[00:05:23] I mean, that's not that.

[00:05:24] Liverpool is going to give it.

[00:05:25] Let's give it.

[00:05:25] Let's take it.

[00:05:26] Let's take it.

[00:05:27] Spurs, capitulation.

[00:05:28] No.

[00:05:28] It was 20 and I was like, boy, you didn't defend.

[00:05:32] I mean, I don't want to defend it on the game.

[00:05:34] I mean, I want to do it.

[00:05:34] But that 20 game, my opinion was the final nail in the coffin.

[00:05:38] I was talking about the M.U.S.M. group.

[00:05:40] I was talking about the West Ham game.

[00:05:42] I was talking about the last season.

[00:05:43] I won't be able to survive.

[00:05:44] I don't like it.

[00:05:45] I was thinking that the game will win the international break.

[00:05:47] I was thinking that it won't happen.

[00:05:49] I thought that Jose will win the game.

[00:05:51] I thought that they will win the game.

[00:05:53] I think that they will win the game.

[00:05:54] But I'm sure that West Ham game is going to be last.

[00:05:56] And that's how it happened.

[00:05:58] It's bad.

[00:06:00] Wait, wait, wait.

[00:06:01] You were saying that West Ham game would be his last game regardless of the result?

[00:06:05] Yeah, yeah. Regardless of the result.

[00:06:07] I thought West Ham would have been his last.

[00:06:09] That reason is very simple.

[00:06:11] There is no momentum in United.

[00:06:13] Football is a simple sport.

[00:06:15] You win one game convincingly and you win the other game.

[00:06:20] You win two wins.

[00:06:21] United won one game and won the other.

[00:06:23] But in the other game, they don't know what's going on.

[00:06:27] Now you can see the rest of the Premier League teams.

[00:06:29] Everyone has a fixed level.

[00:06:31] Our three years, we don't know the fixed level.

[00:06:34] We don't know anything about it.

[00:06:36] We win the moments.

[00:06:37] The trophy is a good thing.

[00:06:40] I would always prefer Eric Ten Hag.

[00:06:42] A kind of a two year rather than an Arsenal kind of a two year.

[00:06:46] At least you have won something rather than playing beautiful football.

[00:06:49] But a reality check was getting started at the start of the season.

[00:06:52] That you are going to play so-called football.

[00:06:55] The opposition is playing in the better system.

[00:06:58] I was thinking that Ten Hag will be going to a difficult season.

[00:07:02] I didn't expect that it will be so fast.

[00:07:04] I think that it will be a bit of a win.

[00:07:04] But in the 20 games, my opinion has changed a little bit.

[00:07:08] And I was like, this is going to survive until Christmas.

[00:07:11] And it's the result business.

[00:07:12] We are going to.

[00:07:13] You win the game like your stats.

[00:07:17] You have to play with the stats.

[00:07:18] You have to play with the 9-11.

[00:07:19] Nine games played, 11 points.

[00:07:22] It's unforgiving.

[00:07:23] It was.

[00:07:25] I was just surprised that it was announced today.

[00:07:27] I thought they would do it yesterday.

[00:07:28] Yes.

[00:07:29] I mean, I feel like actually, I wasn't surprised that it was announced today.

[00:07:35] But I felt like it was definitely on the cards.

[00:07:40] And I am surprised.

[00:07:44] Of course, the FC20 result was a shameful one.

[00:07:48] But even the Porto game.

[00:07:49] Because it's a game that we were winning.

[00:07:52] You are 2-0 leading.

[00:07:53] You are 2-0 leading.

[00:07:54] We were winning by a two goal margin.

[00:07:56] And yes, that's the cliche goes.

[00:07:58] A 2-0 lead in football is the worst possible lead.

[00:08:01] Right?

[00:08:01] Like it is the worst possible lead.

[00:08:03] Which is, if you play poker.

[00:08:06] So it is like having King 8 in your hand.

[00:08:09] Correct.

[00:08:10] It is the...

[00:08:11] Suicide level.

[00:08:12] They were the mother-child guards.

[00:08:13] Because it gives you hope.

[00:08:15] Yes.

[00:08:16] What do you think of all-in game?

[00:08:18] What do you think of all-in game?

[00:08:20] And I was like, no, I don't know.

[00:08:21] The game came out of the game.

[00:08:22] Ace, ace, ace, ace.

[00:08:24] And you are like, it's over, right?

[00:08:25] No, brother.

[00:08:26] It was gone.

[00:08:27] So it was that.

[00:08:29] And let's get back to the West Ham game now.

[00:08:33] Because that was the most recent embarrassment.

[00:08:36] I don't understand how we have not scored at least one goal.

[00:08:44] Let's go.

[00:08:44] The bar is so low.

[00:08:46] We should have been 3-0 up.

[00:08:48] I am surprised we didn't even go in one-nil up.

[00:08:51] Because honestly...

[00:08:53] I started...

[00:08:54] I started...

[00:08:54] I started...

[00:08:54] I started...

[00:08:55] I started...

[00:08:58] In the first half of the game, we have created total 12 chances.

[00:09:01] Normal chances, 12.

[00:09:03] Okay?

[00:09:04] Of which, big game chances were 8.

[00:09:07] Okay?

[00:09:07] Big chances in the game.

[00:09:09] Okay?

[00:09:09] How many targets are you?

[00:09:13] 3.

[00:09:14] 2.

[00:09:15] Oh, fuck.

[00:09:17] Okay?

[00:09:17] 2.

[00:09:17] You have to take 8-10 chances.

[00:09:21] You have to take 2 chances.

[00:09:22] 1-1.

[00:09:22] He didn't consider short on target.

[00:09:24] Because he missed.

[00:09:26] He missed.

[00:09:27] He missed.

[00:09:28] The other attempt was on the side net.

[00:09:31] He also considered short on target.

[00:09:32] I mean...

[00:09:34] Who gave you 12 chances in Premier League?

[00:09:37] Yeah.

[00:09:38] West Ham were that bad.

[00:09:39] I mean, this extension is this.

[00:09:41] West Ham was that bad.

[00:09:42] Manager realized that I had to do 3-3 chances.

[00:09:45] He did 3 chances.

[00:09:46] He gave you a defender.

[00:09:48] He gave you a extra.

[00:09:48] And then you got 2 goals.

[00:09:50] I know.

[00:09:51] The penalty decision is a problem.

[00:09:53] But...

[00:09:54] It's not acceptable.

[00:09:55] I mean, I've heard that.

[00:09:57] I've heard that the manager's fault.

[00:09:59] Player finish is not able to get it.

[00:10:01] But you can tweak your system to do it.

[00:10:03] You can tweak your system.

[00:10:05] You can tweak it.

[00:10:06] I mean, in the 60 minutes after you have to do it.

[00:10:08] I mean, I feel like you have to give up.

[00:10:10] You have to say,

[00:10:10] I'm going to put it on the side.

[00:10:13] You will see it.

[00:10:14] Yeah.

[00:10:15] Yeah.

[00:10:15] No, and that has been Ten Hag's biggest criticism.

[00:10:18] No.

[00:10:18] If not in the first two seasons,

[00:10:20] at least from the start of this season,

[00:10:22] his biggest criticism is that he is a tactically sound manager.

[00:10:28] And I still will die on that hill.

[00:10:31] A lot of people will say that,

[00:10:33] What are you talking about?

[00:10:34] You don't look at football.

[00:10:35] What are you tactics?

[00:10:36] What are you planning on?

[00:10:36] That's what he will say in the public.

[00:10:37] But I still believe that Eric Ten Hag is a tactically sound manager.

[00:10:41] And I'll bring up that quote from Mourinho that was doing the rounds right now

[00:10:46] after he played Mazraoui in the number 10 role against Fenerbahce.

[00:10:50] Mourinho himself said that,

[00:10:51] after he said that,

[00:10:53] from his time at the Moroccan national team,

[00:10:56] Mazraoui is adept at playing number 10.

[00:10:58] It's not his natural position.

[00:10:59] Correct.

[00:11:00] But he can do it.

[00:11:02] So it's not a complete like,

[00:11:04] Yes, he's become a striker in FIFA.

[00:11:08] He hasn't done that in the first place.

[00:11:09] No.

[00:11:09] There is some semblance of a match.

[00:11:10] There was some logic to that madness.

[00:11:12] Logic to the madness is there.

[00:11:14] And in general,

[00:11:16] I'd have said this from the start of the season,

[00:11:17] I feel like there is more tactical cohesion within the squad.

[00:11:23] More than I've seen in the previous two seasons.

[00:11:25] It did feel at the start of the season,

[00:11:27] that this team is finally learning how to play with each other,

[00:11:31] the way they need to play.

[00:11:32] There are some passages of play that United have played across the season

[00:11:35] under Ten Hag that have been quite brilliant.

[00:11:37] The unfortunate thing is they have been far too few.

[00:11:40] And those passages of play haven't amounted to anything,

[00:11:44] which ultimately is the whole point of the game, right?

[00:11:48] Mm-hmm.

[00:11:48] So I feel like while he is tactically sound,

[00:11:52] he is very dogmatic.

[00:11:55] He's very stubborn.

[00:11:57] He's very stubborn.

[00:11:58] He doesn't change.

[00:11:59] He doubles down on his opinions

[00:12:02] to a point where it becomes caricaturish.

[00:12:06] Correct.

[00:12:06] And you cannot have that as a manager of an elite level football team

[00:12:11] and more so from a United fans of a professional human being.

[00:12:15] You can't.

[00:12:16] And from a United fan point of view,

[00:12:18] you can't have that as the manager of Man United.

[00:12:20] The manager of Man United.

[00:12:22] And again, I keep bringing the great man's name,

[00:12:24] Sir Alex Ferguson.

[00:12:25] You are used as United fans to seeing a man handle the media so well,

[00:12:32] handle every tough question,

[00:12:34] every tough challenge thrown at him so well,

[00:12:38] that you are not expecting a United manager to be dear in headlights.

[00:12:44] Correct.

[00:12:44] And that is exactly what was happening to Eric Tanag.

[00:12:46] And I think for that reason,

[00:12:47] and more than anything else that reason,

[00:12:51] and I might get trolled for this,

[00:12:53] is why I feel slightly relieved that Tanag is no longer the manager of United.

[00:12:57] Because more than his tactics and all of that,

[00:13:00] that is the...

[00:13:01] I think that this is the best decision of Eric Tanag in life

[00:13:05] that he has been sacked.

[00:13:07] Okay?

[00:13:07] He has a lot of pressure from his life.

[00:13:10] Okay?

[00:13:10] I don't know what to say about Tanag's bad thing.

[00:13:13] Okay?

[00:13:14] But I won't even say this,

[00:13:15] was he not good at the job at United?

[00:13:17] Was it too big for him?

[00:13:18] That's a very different question.

[00:13:20] The job at Manchester United is big for everyone,

[00:13:22] bearing Sir Alex Ferguson.

[00:13:24] No one is standing at this place.

[00:13:26] And no one is standing at this point.

[00:13:27] And no one is standing at this point.

[00:13:27] And the seven managers come and go,

[00:13:29] that means,

[00:13:30] you take a name of anyone.

[00:13:31] This club is very big.

[00:13:32] This club is a lot of imagination.

[00:13:35] Okay?

[00:13:36] So, the fan expectations are a lot of huge.

[00:13:38] What was Eric Tanag's undoing is the word which I kept using in all my podcasts.

[00:13:43] The word is stubborn.

[00:13:44] You cannot be stubborn.

[00:13:46] Okay?

[00:13:47] You want to lay down the marker,

[00:13:49] you let go of Sancho, Ronaldo, David Dayer, etc.

[00:13:53] Which I completely agree with him.

[00:13:54] There had to be an overhaul of the squad,

[00:13:56] which he was doing.

[00:13:56] But when the shit hits the fan,

[00:13:59] you have to adjust very quickly.

[00:14:02] Which he did not.

[00:14:04] In his three years,

[00:14:05] we can say something that he doesn't adjust.

[00:14:08] It's his way and he's our version of Salman Khan.

[00:14:11] It's my way and my way.

[00:14:12] Not even the highway.

[00:14:13] Because he didn't have a driver.

[00:14:15] He was not allowed.

[00:14:16] He was not allowed in the car.

[00:14:16] But he was not allowed.

[00:14:19] In the sense that Eric Tanag's undoing is his stubbornness.

[00:14:23] If you look historically in Dutch people,

[00:14:26] I really hope I'm not sounding racist.

[00:14:29] But this is Dutch people's nature.

[00:14:30] Their belief system is true.

[00:14:32] They will be strong in our belief system.

[00:14:34] I will give you a proof.

[00:14:36] Look at the R&A slot in Liverpool.

[00:14:38] He said very clearly,

[00:14:39] that this is my brand of football.

[00:14:41] Yes, I am a club player.

[00:14:43] But I am not going to change my style.

[00:14:45] I will play this.

[00:14:46] Johan Cruyff,

[00:14:48] adamant.

[00:14:49] He didn't change it.

[00:14:51] Frank Rijkaard at Barcelona,

[00:14:52] the same thing.

[00:14:53] He didn't change it.

[00:14:54] Eventually he got a sack and then they got Pep Guardiola.

[00:14:56] Louis Van Gaal is his epitome.

[00:14:58] He is extreme.

[00:14:59] He said,

[00:15:00] that's my style.

[00:15:01] Now,

[00:15:02] that's his upbringing.

[00:15:06] I mean,

[00:15:07] I think it's bad for Eric Tanag.

[00:15:08] I think it's bad for the whole situation.

[00:15:11] I think it's bad for Man United.

[00:15:12] I'm not saying that Eric Tanag is a bad man or anything.

[00:15:15] You have just shot yourself on the foot again.

[00:15:18] Okay?

[00:15:19] If you had to sack it,

[00:15:21] you would have to sack it in summer.

[00:15:22] You would have to get better alternatives.

[00:15:25] I'm not saying that Thomas took it.

[00:15:27] But there were alternatives.

[00:15:29] You could have dabbled around here and there.

[00:15:31] Now what's going on?

[00:15:32] You have to sack it.

[00:15:34] Now,

[00:15:34] you will become a manager.

[00:15:36] Now we will play Leicester and Chelsea.

[00:15:38] We will play in the next five games.

[00:15:40] We will play in the next five games,

[00:15:41] Hypothetically.

[00:15:42] This new manager bounce.

[00:15:44] We will do that in which we are going to do

[00:15:47] when we have Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

[00:15:49] Interim Manager to full time job.

[00:15:51] Then we will do process, process, process.

[00:15:54] Now,

[00:15:54] two years later,

[00:15:54] we will go over the place.

[00:16:00] We will go over to Ole to go.

[00:16:02] rude venus flowy

[00:16:02] to go to the road venus flowy

[00:16:03] so I hope that

[00:16:05] in your way

[00:16:06] that for a change

[00:16:07] you have the best of the best staff

[00:16:10] Ashworth

[00:16:10] this is

[00:16:11] high sub

[00:16:12] you have the staff

[00:16:13] you have the galacticos of staff

[00:16:15] I really hope

[00:16:17] you have a sensible decision

[00:16:18] I mean

[00:16:20] you think

[00:16:21] if you think

[00:16:22] that

[00:16:22] I need some other manager

[00:16:25] I will wait for summer

[00:16:26] then

[00:16:27] that's wrong

[00:16:28] because the season

[00:16:29] is not finished

[00:16:30] there are 29 games

[00:16:31] to play

[00:16:31] okay

[00:16:32] so I really hope

[00:16:34] Ineos think this through

[00:16:36] and try to see

[00:16:37] what they actually want

[00:16:38] from a manager

[00:16:39] if those people are not clear

[00:16:40] we will talk about this

[00:16:41] two years later

[00:16:43] exactly

[00:16:44] so Ineos

[00:16:45] let's talk about it

[00:16:46] because

[00:16:46] of course there is a lot of optimism

[00:16:48] within United fans

[00:16:49] about the new ownership structure

[00:16:50] and I think a lot of that

[00:16:52] is solely to do with the fact that

[00:16:54] it's not Glazers

[00:16:55] I mean

[00:16:56] fucking

[00:16:58] Ineos

[00:16:59] Ineos owning a stake

[00:17:00] in Man United

[00:17:01] is very much

[00:17:03] like Joe Biden

[00:17:04] winning the presidency

[00:17:05] in America

[00:17:05] because his whole thing

[00:17:06] was at least

[00:17:07] he's not Donald Trump

[00:17:08] correct

[00:17:08] that is the only reason

[00:17:10] why Joe Biden

[00:17:10] won

[00:17:10] if not Rahul Gandhi

[00:17:11] winning the elections

[00:17:12] oh sorry he didn't

[00:17:13] yeah

[00:17:14] exactly

[00:17:14] so it is

[00:17:15] it is just the

[00:17:16] at least it's not those fuckers

[00:17:18] we don't know

[00:17:19] who these guys are

[00:17:20] like yes

[00:17:20] they have a football club

[00:17:22] in the French

[00:17:23] France

[00:17:24] but it's not like

[00:17:26] they are

[00:17:28] next level

[00:17:28] setting the world on fire

[00:17:29] that's not like that

[00:17:30] it's not like that

[00:17:31] it's not like that

[00:17:32] okay

[00:17:33] you guys are a lot

[00:17:34] corporate minded

[00:17:35] you understand

[00:17:37] A

[00:17:37] Sarja Miracliff

[00:17:38] loves the club

[00:17:39] so there is a personal

[00:17:40] equation there

[00:17:42] which is

[00:17:43] quite important

[00:17:44] especially in this case

[00:17:45] I would say

[00:17:45] considering we've had

[00:17:46] Glazers who

[00:17:47] had no emotional

[00:17:48] connect to the club

[00:17:49] there is a little bit

[00:17:50] of a feel good factor

[00:17:51] actually they didn't

[00:17:52] have an emotional

[00:17:52] connection

[00:17:53] Amog

[00:17:53] where will interest

[00:17:54] come from the club

[00:17:55] bro

[00:17:58] emotional connection

[00:17:59] is that if you

[00:17:59] sell a jersey

[00:17:59] so that if you

[00:18:01] come from the club

[00:18:01] we have interest

[00:18:02] that is true

[00:18:03] that is true

[00:18:04] when I am

[00:18:05] fixed deposit

[00:18:06] interest

[00:18:06] I am very emotional

[00:18:08] I understand

[00:18:10] I understand

[00:18:11] so

[00:18:12] no

[00:18:12] but I feel like

[00:18:13] if we take the

[00:18:14] rose tinted glasses

[00:18:15] away for a second

[00:18:16] because I feel like

[00:18:18] a lot of them

[00:18:19] are on

[00:18:19] all of our faces

[00:18:21] correct

[00:18:22] how adept

[00:18:24] really are

[00:18:25] in EOS

[00:18:26] at running

[00:18:26] a club

[00:18:28] even more so

[00:18:29] running a club

[00:18:30] like Man United

[00:18:30] they are

[00:18:31] but they have

[00:18:32] appointed right people

[00:18:34] sure

[00:18:35] but

[00:18:37] how do you know

[00:18:38] that they are

[00:18:38] the right people

[00:18:39] is the one thing

[00:18:39] right

[00:18:40] because

[00:18:40] again

[00:18:40] like for fans

[00:18:41] we can see

[00:18:43] the players

[00:18:44] play week in

[00:18:45] week out

[00:18:45] and make our

[00:18:46] own judgments

[00:18:47] correct

[00:18:47] we can see

[00:18:48] Antoine Semenio

[00:18:50] is playing

[00:18:51] well

[00:18:51] he could be

[00:18:52] a transfer target

[00:18:54] Crescensio

[00:18:54] Somerville scored

[00:18:55] against us

[00:18:55] very direct

[00:18:57] very fast

[00:18:57] could be

[00:18:58] an interesting

[00:19:00] option

[00:19:00] we can make

[00:19:01] those judgments

[00:19:02] because we are

[00:19:02] seeing these guys

[00:19:03] do their job

[00:19:05] in front of us

[00:19:06] on the television

[00:19:06] we don't get to

[00:19:07] see what Dan

[00:19:08] Ashworth does

[00:19:09] we don't get to

[00:19:09] see what Omar

[00:19:10] Berrada does

[00:19:11] we don't get to

[00:19:11] see what Jason

[00:19:12] Wilcox does

[00:19:13] you know

[00:19:15] to a certain

[00:19:16] extent

[00:19:16] you can say

[00:19:16] that we can

[00:19:17] see what

[00:19:17] a manager

[00:19:18] does

[00:19:18] because it's

[00:19:19] his ideology

[00:19:20] his philosophy

[00:19:21] his style

[00:19:21] of play

[00:19:22] that is being

[00:19:22] executed

[00:19:23] on the field

[00:19:24] tangible

[00:19:24] you are saying

[00:19:25] tangible results

[00:19:26] but Omar

[00:19:29] Berrada

[00:19:30] management

[00:19:30] there is no

[00:19:31] tangible

[00:19:31] result

[00:19:32] I somewhere

[00:19:33] agree with you

[00:19:34] and I

[00:19:34] somewhere

[00:19:35] disagree

[00:19:35] with you

[00:19:36] I'll tell you

[00:19:36] where my

[00:19:37] agreement is

[00:19:37] agreement is

[00:19:38] in your

[00:19:38] ideology

[00:19:39] that okay

[00:19:39] I don't have

[00:19:40] any tangible

[00:19:40] results to

[00:19:41] measure

[00:19:42] how it's

[00:19:43] going

[00:19:43] which is

[00:19:44] very important

[00:19:44] metric

[00:19:45] when you

[00:19:45] talk about

[00:19:46] anything

[00:19:46] in this

[00:19:46] world

[00:19:47] tangible

[00:19:48] results

[00:19:49] I'll tell you

[00:19:50] where I

[00:19:50] don't

[00:19:50] disagree

[00:19:51] if you

[00:19:52] have

[00:19:52] done

[00:19:52] Ashworth

[00:19:53] do

[00:19:54] the

[00:19:58] reason

[00:19:59] is

[00:20:00] Dan Ashworth

[00:20:00] one of

[00:20:01] the reasons

[00:20:03] they buy

[00:20:03] young players

[00:20:04] and they

[00:20:04] sell them

[00:20:05] for a profit

[00:20:05] are man

[00:20:07] united

[00:20:07] in that

[00:20:08] mold

[00:20:08] of course

[00:20:08] not

[00:20:09] we don't

[00:20:09] want to

[00:20:09] sell people

[00:20:10] for a profit

[00:20:10] not that

[00:20:11] we haven't

[00:20:11] done

[00:20:12] this thing

[00:20:13] but

[00:20:13] at least

[00:20:19] he's got

[00:20:19] an eye

[00:20:19] for talent

[00:20:22] on that

[00:20:23] point

[00:20:26] the

[00:20:26] Brighton

[00:20:26] model

[00:20:29] doesn't

[00:20:29] directly

[00:20:30] translate

[00:20:31] to the

[00:20:31] United

[00:20:31] model

[00:20:32] not

[00:20:33] only

[00:20:34] because

[00:20:34] United

[00:20:34] doesn't

[00:20:35] want to

[00:20:35] only sell

[00:20:36] its players

[00:20:36] for a

[00:20:36] profit

[00:20:37] that would

[00:20:37] be nice

[00:20:38] if we have

[00:20:38] to move

[00:20:38] a player

[00:20:39] on a

[00:20:39] profit

[00:20:39] would be

[00:20:40] very

[00:20:40] welcome

[00:20:41] but that

[00:20:42] is not

[00:20:42] the

[00:20:42] United

[00:20:42] model

[00:20:43] my worry

[00:20:44] is

[00:20:45] when you

[00:20:46] are the

[00:20:46] sporting

[00:20:46] director

[00:20:46] of a

[00:20:47] team

[00:20:47] like

[00:20:47] Brighton

[00:20:47] which

[00:20:48] has

[00:20:48] newly

[00:20:49] been

[00:20:50] promoted

[00:20:50] into the

[00:20:50] Premier League

[00:20:51] in the

[00:20:51] last 6-7

[00:20:52] seasons

[00:20:52] has then

[00:20:53] kind of

[00:20:54] managed to

[00:20:55] stake a

[00:20:55] claim as

[00:20:55] a regular

[00:20:56] Premier League

[00:20:57] team

[00:20:57] has slowly

[00:20:58] been going

[00:20:58] up the

[00:20:59] tables

[00:20:59] and

[00:21:01] has the

[00:21:01] potential

[00:21:02] to upset

[00:21:02] quite a

[00:21:03] few big

[00:21:03] teams

[00:21:03] right

[00:21:16] to you

[00:21:16] for

[00:21:16] cheap

[00:21:16] because

[00:21:16] they're

[00:21:17] like

[00:21:17] you

[00:21:17] Brighton

[00:21:17] which

[00:21:18] is

[00:21:19] now

[00:21:19] changing

[00:21:21] in

[00:21:21] their

[00:21:21] market

[00:21:22] as

[00:21:22] well

[00:21:22] because

[00:21:22] now

[00:21:22] other

[00:21:23] teams

[00:21:23] have

[00:21:23] realized

[00:21:23] you're

[00:21:24] Brighton

[00:21:25] you're

[00:21:25] giving us

[00:21:26] 5

[00:21:26] but

[00:21:26] you're

[00:21:27] giving us

[00:21:28] 50

[00:21:28] rupees

[00:21:28] for

[00:21:28] that

[00:21:30] is

[00:21:31] 20

[00:21:34] so

[00:21:35] that

[00:21:35] is

[00:21:36] my

[00:21:36] worry

[00:21:37] is

[00:21:37] that

[00:21:39] I don't

[00:21:40] know

[00:21:40] if

[00:21:40] that

[00:21:40] will

[00:21:40] translate

[00:21:41] well

[00:21:42] to

[00:21:42] United

[00:21:42] because

[00:21:42] as

[00:21:43] soon

[00:21:43] as

[00:21:43] United

[00:21:43] is

[00:21:44] New

[00:21:44] Kassel

[00:21:44] also

[00:21:45] New

[00:21:46] Kassel

[00:21:46] and

[00:21:47] New

[00:21:47] Kassel

[00:21:47] also

[00:21:48] I don't

[00:21:48] know

[00:21:49] how many

[00:21:50] people

[00:22:14] have

[00:22:14] strikers

[00:22:15] in the

[00:22:15] Premier League

[00:22:16] because

[00:22:17] when he plays

[00:22:17] his impact

[00:22:18] has

[00:22:18] like

[00:22:18] yesterday

[00:22:19] game

[00:22:19] against

[00:22:20] New

[00:22:21] Kassel

[00:22:21] who

[00:22:21] did he

[00:22:21] play

[00:22:21] Spurs

[00:22:22] or

[00:22:22] Chelsea

[00:22:24] 2-1

[00:22:25] Hara

[00:22:26] if

[00:22:29] you'll

[00:22:30] see

[00:22:30] is

[00:22:31] Alexander

[00:22:31] Is

[00:22:31] a successful

[00:22:32] transfer

[00:22:33] for

[00:22:33] New

[00:22:33] Kassel

[00:22:33] time will

[00:22:34] tell

[00:22:34] but

[00:22:35] is

[00:22:35] he

[00:22:35] an

[00:22:35] effective

[00:22:36] transfer

[00:22:36] for

[00:22:36] New

[00:22:36] Kassel

[00:22:38] because

[00:22:39] their

[00:22:40] previous

[00:22:40] striker

[00:22:40] was

[00:22:40] Chris

[00:22:41] Wood

[00:22:41] who's

[00:22:42] scoring

[00:22:42] goals

[00:22:42] for fun

[00:22:43] right now

[00:22:43] by Nottingham

[00:22:44] Forest

[00:22:44] but

[00:22:44] anyways

[00:22:44] my

[00:22:45] point

[00:22:45] is

[00:22:46] this

[00:22:47] is

[00:22:47] 3-4

[00:22:48] step

[00:22:48] process

[00:22:48] it

[00:22:49] is

[00:22:49] 3-fold

[00:22:50] process

[00:22:50] I

[00:22:51] think

[00:22:52] United

[00:22:53] right

[00:22:53] players

[00:22:54] identify

[00:22:54] which

[00:22:55] we

[00:22:55] have

[00:22:56] done

[00:22:57] Mathias

[00:22:58] Dilett

[00:22:59] I

[00:22:59] think

[00:23:00] this

[00:23:01] year

[00:23:02] signing

[00:23:02] of

[00:23:02] the

[00:23:03] season

[00:23:03] has

[00:23:03] been

[00:23:04] mazura

[00:23:04] and

[00:23:05] Mathias

[00:23:05] Dilett

[00:23:06] is

[00:23:06] close

[00:23:06] second

[00:23:06] 15

[00:23:07] million

[00:23:08] right

[00:23:09] back

[00:23:09] left

[00:23:09] back

[00:23:10] number

[00:23:10] 10

[00:23:10] where

[00:23:10] he

[00:23:11] got

[00:23:11] 15

[00:23:12] million

[00:23:12] he

[00:23:13] 15

[00:23:13] he

[00:23:13] is

[00:23:13] a

[00:23:13] good

[00:23:13] player

[00:23:16] that's

[00:23:16] one

[00:23:17] Andre

[00:23:17] Onana

[00:23:18] coming

[00:23:18] of age

[00:23:19] if

[00:23:20] there

[00:23:21] was

[00:23:21] a

[00:23:21] player

[00:23:21] of

[00:23:21] the

[00:23:21] season

[00:23:22] award

[00:23:22] right

[00:23:22] now

[00:23:22] Andre

[00:23:23] Onana

[00:23:23] wins it

[00:23:23] for

[00:23:24] Man

[00:23:24] United

[00:23:24] he

[00:23:25] has

[00:23:26] finally

[00:23:27] settled

[00:23:27] in

[00:23:28] to

[00:23:29] the

[00:23:29] Man

[00:23:29] United

[00:23:29] goalkeeper

[00:23:30] for

[00:23:30] sure

[00:23:31] this

[00:23:34] happened

[00:23:34] so

[00:23:35] quickly

[00:23:35] for

[00:23:35] Jason

[00:23:36] Wilcox

[00:23:36] Dan

[00:23:37] Ashworth

[00:23:37] everyone

[00:23:38] came

[00:23:38] six

[00:23:39] months

[00:23:40] 116

[00:23:41] days

[00:23:43] 116

[00:23:44] days

[00:23:44] you

[00:23:46] are

[00:23:47] already

[00:23:47] talking

[00:23:47] about

[00:23:47] manager

[00:23:48] getting

[00:23:48] sacked

[00:23:48] or not

[00:23:49] everything

[00:23:50] has

[00:23:50] happened

[00:23:50] very

[00:23:50] quickly

[00:23:50] for

[00:23:51] them

[00:23:51] so

[00:23:51] I

[00:23:52] am

[00:23:52] still

[00:23:52] of

[00:23:52] the

[00:23:52] opinion

[00:23:53] to

[00:23:53] give

[00:23:53] them

[00:23:54] some

[00:23:54] more

[00:23:54] time

[00:23:55] before

[00:23:55] I

[00:23:55] say

[00:23:55] this

[00:23:56] model

[00:23:56] is

[00:23:56] going

[00:23:57] too

[00:23:58] many

[00:23:58] people

[00:24:00] at

[00:24:01] United

[00:24:01] Board

[00:24:02] right

[00:24:02] now

[00:24:03] there

[00:24:03] are

[00:24:04] many

[00:24:04] experts

[00:24:04] you

[00:24:05] have

[00:24:05] a lot

[00:24:06] of

[00:24:06] experts

[00:24:06] to

[00:24:06] eat

[00:24:07] a lot

[00:24:07] of

[00:24:07] food

[00:24:08] is

[00:24:08] I

[00:24:08] am

[00:24:09] expert

[00:24:11] in

[00:24:13] sense

[00:24:13] I

[00:24:14] think

[00:24:14] we

[00:24:15] are

[00:24:15] being

[00:24:16] harsh

[00:24:16] to

[00:24:17] judge

[00:24:17] INEOS

[00:24:17] structure

[00:24:18] so

[00:24:18] far

[00:24:18] but

[00:24:19] yes

[00:24:20] they

[00:24:21] are

[00:24:21] under

[00:24:21] immense

[00:24:22] pressure

[00:24:22] starting

[00:24:22] today

[00:24:25] because

[00:24:26] I

[00:24:27] think

[00:24:28] 10

[00:24:28] heart

[00:24:28] sacking

[00:24:29] on

[00:24:29] the

[00:24:29] wall

[00:24:30] or

[00:24:30] on

[00:24:30] the

[00:24:30] card

[00:24:31] but

[00:24:32] somewhere

[00:24:33] around

[00:24:33] the

[00:24:33] line

[00:24:33] there

[00:24:34] is

[00:24:34] a

[00:24:34] section

[00:24:34] of

[00:24:34] fans

[00:24:35] who

[00:24:35] still

[00:24:35] think

[00:24:35] you

[00:24:36] have

[00:24:36] one

[00:24:36] year

[00:24:36] contract

[00:24:37] to

[00:24:37] have

[00:24:37] done

[00:24:38] one

[00:24:40] year

[00:24:44] plus

[00:24:44] two

[00:24:44] one

[00:24:45] year

[00:24:45] performance

[00:24:46] basically

[00:24:47] you

[00:24:47] have

[00:24:47] a

[00:24:48] contract

[00:24:48] before

[00:24:48] you

[00:24:49] fired.

[00:24:51] And

[00:24:52] the

[00:24:52] other

[00:24:52] thing

[00:24:53] is

[00:24:53] when

[00:24:53] you

[00:24:54] you're talking with him, you're talking with him,

[00:24:57] you're talking with him,

[00:24:58] so you're talking with him,

[00:25:00] and you're signing your contract extension.

[00:25:03] And you're looking for your backup.

[00:25:05] So, Ineos,

[00:25:06] there's a tremendous pressure.

[00:25:08] Make no mistake about it.

[00:25:09] But that is exactly the point, right?

[00:25:11] And I'm glad that you brought this up,

[00:25:12] because I feel like as fans of a football club,

[00:25:15] we have to hold whoever the owners are of the football club

[00:25:18] accountable for their decisions, right?

[00:25:21] And that particularly

[00:25:23] was a very weird decision-making process

[00:25:26] that I thought.

[00:25:27] Here is, and

[00:25:29] call me a conspiracy theorist

[00:25:30] if you want to,

[00:25:31] I'll take my tinfoil hat.

[00:25:33] But hear me out.

[00:25:34] All right, this may be a hot take.

[00:25:38] In the off-season,

[00:25:40] when this exact thing happened,

[00:25:42] where everybody was

[00:25:43] after IFAQ of 26th May ke baad.

[00:25:45] Yeah, where everybody was wondering

[00:25:47] is Ten Hag really the right man for the job?

[00:25:49] Is he the right manager to take the club forward

[00:25:51] under Ineos,

[00:25:52] under this new vision,

[00:25:53] under this new ownership

[00:25:53] that the club has?

[00:25:55] They conducted a massive review.

[00:25:58] It went on for weeks and weeks and weeks.

[00:26:00] For Febrizi and Romano,

[00:26:01] there were so many content buckets created.

[00:26:04] He's always tweeting.

[00:26:06] There is no decision yet.

[00:26:08] And he's rolling in money.

[00:26:13] So they've done all of that.

[00:26:14] They've then,

[00:26:16] very publicly,

[00:26:17] I mean,

[00:26:17] of course,

[00:26:18] they wouldn't have wanted it to be public,

[00:26:19] but very publicly,

[00:26:20] they've met Tukil.

[00:26:21] They've met other

[00:26:23] prospective candidates.

[00:26:24] Correct.

[00:26:25] Simeone.

[00:26:27] And then they have come and said,

[00:26:29] no,

[00:26:29] actually Ten Hag is the right manager for the job.

[00:26:31] Right?

[00:26:32] Correct.

[00:26:33] At the same time,

[00:26:33] Ten Hag is asked about this later

[00:26:35] after signing his contract.

[00:26:37] He says himself,

[00:26:39] I know that they've been talking to other people,

[00:26:43] but they have also finally realized that

[00:26:45] I'm the right man for the job

[00:26:47] and we are aligned on the vision,

[00:26:49] which is great to say in front of the press.

[00:26:51] Correct.

[00:26:52] But don't you think there was a little bit of saltiness

[00:26:54] in Ten Hag there as well?

[00:26:56] Do you feel,

[00:26:57] do you feel that at that point,

[00:26:59] Ten Hag did not feel completely backed by the owners,

[00:27:02] that they weren't really in the same zone

[00:27:07] as he kept saying,

[00:27:08] they weren't completely aligned

[00:27:10] as he kept saying.

[00:27:11] And do you think that affected his performances

[00:27:13] as manager?

[00:27:14] Because if we take that out of the football context

[00:27:17] and you put it in any context,

[00:27:19] tere job me,

[00:27:20] mere job me,

[00:27:20] agar mera job under review hai,

[00:27:23] and you have started talking about backup already?

[00:27:26] Haan,

[00:27:27] I have made a lot of profit for my manager.

[00:27:28] I have taken a lot of profit in the last two years.

[00:27:30] Okay?

[00:27:31] I have taken a lot of profit.

[00:27:32] Then my job under review hai,

[00:27:34] for whatever reasons,

[00:27:35] external, internal,

[00:27:36] doesn't matter.

[00:27:36] Mera job under review hai.

[00:27:38] You have spoken to people,

[00:27:41] people are interested about the candidates you've spoken to,

[00:27:43] then you've come and said,

[00:27:44] nahi,

[00:27:44] nahi,

[00:27:45] tu hai achcha hai.

[00:27:46] You're going to feel,

[00:27:48] agar me achcha hou,

[00:27:49] to baat kyun kiya,

[00:27:50] bhenchur?

[00:27:51] Correct.

[00:27:51] Correct.

[00:27:51] 100%.

[00:27:52] 100%.

[00:27:52] 100%.

[00:27:52] Then why should I,

[00:27:54] as a manager,

[00:27:55] give my heart and soul to you guys?

[00:27:57] I am going to be like,

[00:27:58] yaa fuck it.

[00:27:59] Khello,

[00:27:59] khello,

[00:28:00] mazara hui ko number 10 mein.

[00:28:01] Luke Shaw is not fit.

[00:28:02] Chati,

[00:28:03] kya usko dee do extended break.

[00:28:04] Don't fucking,

[00:28:05] don't fucking,

[00:28:07] don't fucking hammer,

[00:28:08] give bamboo to the medical team,

[00:28:10] to get your top performing left back back,

[00:28:13] so that you have a fully functioning fucking defense.

[00:28:16] Mnlab,

[00:28:16] chod,

[00:28:17] my Luke Shaw opinion bhot alag ya,

[00:28:18] I'll get to that very later.

[00:28:20] Thik hai.

[00:28:21] But,

[00:28:22] mai ter ko bhot honest chiz bulta ho.

[00:28:23] Mujhe tab lagata ha,

[00:28:24] uj gaya.

[00:28:25] FA Cup is not going to save him.

[00:28:27] Mnlab,

[00:28:27] mujhe isa alag rata ha.

[00:28:28] Thik hai.

[00:28:29] Uska reason,

[00:28:30] mere hesabse ye reason tha ki,

[00:28:31] yaar,

[00:28:32] naya board hai,

[00:28:33] thoda professional mentality syaayenge.

[00:28:35] Ye injury wala season hai,

[00:28:37] but I don't think they'll write off because

[00:28:38] last year ke performances were worse than his first season.

[00:28:42] Yeah.

[00:28:42] Thik hai.

[00:28:43] For sure.

[00:28:43] first season mein toh 7 nil tha,

[00:28:45] uska.

[00:28:46] Last season toh or ghatia ho gaya na,

[00:28:48] bade games mein toh.

[00:28:48] Bade games mein toh,

[00:28:49] mnlab,

[00:28:49] ball hi ni dikha apne ko.

[00:28:50] Mnlab,

[00:28:51] khelna chod,

[00:28:51] ball dikha hi nahi.

[00:28:52] Khelhen ge toh bhot baat ki baat hai.

[00:28:54] Yeah.

[00:28:54] Thik hai,

[00:28:54] tab woh injury,

[00:28:55] injury,

[00:28:56] injury,

[00:28:56] uska gana gaya.

[00:28:57] Jo bhi hai.

[00:28:59] Mera problem,

[00:29:00] start kahan se hua,

[00:29:01] bata ye season ka.

[00:29:02] The moment he was announced the extension.

[00:29:04] That's when I realized,

[00:29:06] oh oh,

[00:29:06] they are setting him up for failure.

[00:29:08] Thik hai,

[00:29:08] I'll tell you why I think so.

[00:29:10] Baat karna,

[00:29:11] dousare candidate nahi milna,

[00:29:13] Thomas Tuchel,

[00:29:14] ye sab bhot alag baat hai.

[00:29:15] Thik hai,

[00:29:16] jahaan tak,

[00:29:17] tu dous saal meh agar dhekha na,

[00:29:19] Eric Ten Hag hai na,

[00:29:21] okay,

[00:29:21] very wrong example to give,

[00:29:22] but Eric Ten Hag is a total control freak.

[00:29:25] Let's be very honest about it.

[00:29:26] He's a control freak.

[00:29:27] Yeah,

[00:29:27] yeah,

[00:29:27] yeah.

[00:29:28] Thik hai,

[00:29:29] mnlab,

[00:29:30] woh,

[00:29:31] mein jaysse bula,

[00:29:31] woh aapna Salman Khan hai,

[00:29:32] usko,

[00:29:32] uska tariqa chahiye,

[00:29:34] usko farak nii pardta.

[00:29:36] Thik hai,

[00:29:36] woh uska method hai,

[00:29:38] usko kuch cheeze,

[00:29:39] jaisi chahiye,

[00:29:40] vaisi hai woh,

[00:29:40] mntlab,

[00:29:41] hai woh.

[00:29:41] Thik hai,

[00:29:42] jaysse t'uska transfers dhekh le,

[00:29:44] zada ter players,

[00:29:45] joh Dutch league khilhen,

[00:29:46] woh hai,

[00:29:47] thik hai,

[00:29:47] ya phir Ajax system se,

[00:29:48] IA hooté hai,

[00:29:49] joh bhi uska preference hai,

[00:29:50] medab,

[00:29:50] scout team kya kertata,

[00:29:51] me riko nii ba da,

[00:29:52] but joh bhi hai,

[00:29:52] uska preference hai.

[00:29:54] The moment we started linking up to players,

[00:29:56] who are actually better,

[00:29:58] coincidentally they played in the Dutch league and all,

[00:30:01] that's when I started feeling ki,

[00:30:02] bhai,

[00:30:02] iska authority khatam ho raha hai.

[00:30:04] And where it's not authority,

[00:30:06] ten haak survive nii karega.

[00:30:09] Ajax may chalne ka reason kya tha,

[00:30:10] Mark Overmars,

[00:30:12] aur Eric Ten Hag,

[00:30:14] yeh matlab,

[00:30:15] goti ar lunge jese te dho no,

[00:30:16] let's be very honest.

[00:30:17] Woh dho no,

[00:30:17] ek dusre ke bina baat nahi karte,

[00:30:19] sab sunte,

[00:30:20] Edwin Mandersar baad mein aaya.

[00:30:22] Thik hai.

[00:30:22] Which is also great,

[00:30:23] great comparison,

[00:30:25] because Eric Ten Hag with his head,

[00:30:27] he's like a goti,

[00:30:28] and Mark Overmars with his sexual harassment allegations,

[00:30:31] he's a lunge.

[00:30:32] Haa,

[00:30:33] exactly.

[00:30:33] Thik hai,

[00:30:34] yeh,

[00:30:34] yeh,

[00:30:34] donoh vayse hi hai.

[00:30:35] Or,

[00:30:36] yaha phe kya ho gaya tha,

[00:30:36] first season me,

[00:30:37] matlab,

[00:30:38] first season me,

[00:30:38] woh jab jita,

[00:30:39] toh ek dem,

[00:30:40] matlab,

[00:30:40] public top four mil gaya hai,

[00:30:42] carabao cup mil gaya,

[00:30:43] kya,

[00:30:43] badiya manager,

[00:30:44] FA Cup final me,

[00:30:44] peoch gaya,

[00:30:45] teh,

[00:30:45] joh bhi hai,

[00:30:45] jayse bhi gaya.

[00:30:46] Thik hai,

[00:30:47] at one point of time,

[00:30:48] were blinded by the fact,

[00:30:49] ki,

[00:30:49] yeh,

[00:30:50] there are problems.

[00:30:51] And let's be honest,

[00:30:52] right,

[00:30:52] second season,

[00:30:52] we all expected,

[00:30:53] it will get better,

[00:30:54] did not get better.

[00:30:56] Tera conspiracy theory,

[00:30:57] se,

[00:30:57] mein ek cheeze,

[00:30:58] pakka agree karung ga,

[00:30:59] ki,

[00:31:00] uska motivation to,

[00:31:01] khatam ho gaya tha.

[00:31:02] Yeah.

[00:31:02] Dikhani rahata,

[00:31:03] air motivation,

[00:31:04] matlab,

[00:31:04] woh press me bhi,

[00:31:05] doh trophy,

[00:31:06] doh trophy,

[00:31:06] doh trophy,

[00:31:07] man ek time ke baat,

[00:31:07] ba hai,

[00:31:08] matlab,

[00:31:09] hai doh trophy,

[00:31:09] maan liya,

[00:31:10] mene,

[00:31:11] but,

[00:31:11] joh sawaal puchha,

[00:31:12] woh tu sun,

[00:31:13] woh tereko puchha,

[00:31:13] tera style of play kidhar hai,

[00:31:15] tu doh trophy bhol raha hai,

[00:31:16] but,

[00:31:18] like I said,

[00:31:18] I am,

[00:31:19] more than me,

[00:31:20] right,

[00:31:20] Eric Ten Hag is a very relieved man,

[00:31:22] they compensation ka paisa milega,

[00:31:23] satra,

[00:31:23] atra mil lion usko,

[00:31:24] mahi toh,

[00:31:25] mere paas ekk idea,

[00:31:26] actually,

[00:31:26] in your board ke le,

[00:31:27] mahi nne aaj google kiya ki,

[00:31:29] Anthony ka market value,

[00:31:30] satra mil lion hai,

[00:31:32] dheekhani,

[00:31:32] Eric Ten Hag ko na,

[00:31:33] tum satra mil lion,

[00:31:34] dho mat,

[00:31:34] Anthony dhe dao,

[00:31:35] bol,

[00:31:35] isko bhi leke ja,

[00:31:36] tera satra,

[00:31:37] tu ne vangga ta,

[00:31:37] ye player,

[00:31:38] ye satra mil lion,

[00:31:39] bilge leke chala ja,

[00:31:41] dheekhani,

[00:31:42] FFT,

[00:31:42] basically,

[00:31:43] bad debt right kar raha hai,

[00:31:46] tera sodex ho,

[00:31:46] waw chare,

[00:31:47] haa,

[00:31:47] jake ja,

[00:31:48] bhai,

[00:31:48] tu leke ja isko,

[00:31:49] mertlab,

[00:31:50] mere ko ko,

[00:31:50] hatred ni Anthony se,

[00:31:52] but,

[00:31:57] tera manajer ke sa,

[00:31:58] chale ja,

[00:31:59] tera,

[00:32:00] me reko aisa lag raha ki,

[00:32:00] uska motivation khatam ho gaya tha,

[00:32:02] Ten Hag ka,

[00:32:03] to,

[00:32:03] ye season,

[00:32:04] start hi galat ho hai,

[00:32:05] tera,

[00:32:05] Fulham,

[00:32:06] me eko to,

[00:32:06] abhi bhi lagta ha,

[00:32:07] Fulham wala game,

[00:32:07] kya flug giita ya,

[00:32:08] panzerk si ka,

[00:32:09] joh touch tha,

[00:32:11] but,

[00:32:12] Liverpool ne,

[00:32:13] apna,

[00:32:13] maknla,

[00:32:14] pura dhaga khol diya,

[00:32:15] fir Spurs ho gaya,

[00:32:16] fir 20 ho gaya,

[00:32:18] to,

[00:32:18] I was like,

[00:32:19] that's it man,

[00:32:20] I mean,

[00:32:20] you're done,

[00:32:21] there is no,

[00:32:21] and there is no way for you from here,

[00:32:24] abhi to baakhi hai na,

[00:32:26] tein din mein aayega,

[00:32:26] player na ye bola,

[00:32:27] mein ye nahi karonga,

[00:32:29] abhi to abakhi hai,

[00:32:30] abhi to,

[00:32:31] matlab,

[00:32:31] Sam Lohkast ka dukan chalega,

[00:32:33] athletic ka ek long read aega,

[00:32:35] what happened inside the sacking of Ten Hag,

[00:32:38] he came for breakfast,

[00:32:39] had confit,

[00:32:40] realized he didn't have milk,

[00:32:41] so he went to Tesco,

[00:32:42] yeah,

[00:32:43] get your subscriptions to the athletic right now,

[00:32:46] because that is going to come very,

[00:32:47] very soon,

[00:32:48] but so,

[00:32:49] now that it is all done and dusted,

[00:32:51] a large section of the fan base,

[00:32:53] is very happy,

[00:32:55] relieved,

[00:32:55] happy,

[00:32:57] ecstatic,

[00:32:58] all,

[00:32:58] all various emotions are there,

[00:33:00] as you said at the start of this episode,

[00:33:02] you are neither happy nor sad,

[00:33:04] and I feel like that is exactly my feeling as well,

[00:33:06] even while watching the West Ham game,

[00:33:08] on Sunday,

[00:33:08] that's exactly what I felt,

[00:33:09] I was like,

[00:33:10] yeah,

[00:33:10] I don't care,

[00:33:10] I don't care,

[00:33:11] of course,

[00:33:12] of course they are not finishing their chance,

[00:33:13] of course in the second half,

[00:33:15] they have gone a goal down,

[00:33:16] but my prediction is wrong,

[00:33:17] I thought that Suchek will score,

[00:33:19] but he didn't score,

[00:33:21] I thought,

[00:33:22] as soon as,

[00:33:23] as soon as we saw that,

[00:33:24] we went in,

[00:33:25] 0-0 at half time,

[00:33:26] I was like,

[00:33:27] this game has a Danny Ings goal,

[00:33:28] written all over it,

[00:33:30] Danny Ings winner,

[00:33:31] 1-0 West Ham,

[00:33:32] game is this,

[00:33:33] and Danny Ings,

[00:33:34] came and his miss hit,

[00:33:36] was the assist,

[00:33:37] for Summerville's tap-in,

[00:33:38] so I was almost there,

[00:33:40] almost there,

[00:33:41] I thought,

[00:33:41] he had no look assist,

[00:33:44] I mean,

[00:33:44] you're the ball down,

[00:33:45] I mean,

[00:33:46] you're the chance,

[00:33:48] and then,

[00:33:50] I don't know,

[00:33:51] I'll give you a very short trivia,

[00:33:52] about Summerville,

[00:33:53] okay,

[00:33:53] Summerville,

[00:33:54] Leeds player,

[00:33:55] Wilfred,

[00:33:56] Noto,

[00:33:56] and Somerville,

[00:33:57] both Leeds,

[00:33:58] Leeds,

[00:33:59] West Ham wanted to sign,

[00:34:00] Noto,

[00:34:01] Swedish winger,

[00:34:02] and Noto was like,

[00:34:04] I don't go to West Ham,

[00:34:05] I want to go to City,

[00:34:06] and City did ask about,

[00:34:08] Wilfred Noto,

[00:34:08] and Leeds said,

[00:34:10] no,

[00:34:10] I'll go,

[00:34:11] let's go,

[00:34:11] let's go,

[00:34:12] this whole gap,

[00:34:14] Summerville,

[00:34:15] he told me,

[00:34:16] his agent,

[00:34:16] that my relegation,

[00:34:17] the clause was,

[00:34:18] Leeds,

[00:34:19] he was activated,

[00:34:20] because he was relegated,

[00:34:21] Leeds,

[00:34:22] as they activated,

[00:34:24] Hamburg,

[00:34:25] Bayer,

[00:34:26] Leverkusen,

[00:34:26] he was talking,

[00:34:28] with his agent,

[00:34:29] and by the way,

[00:34:31] it's happening,

[00:34:32] without Leeds,

[00:34:32] knowledge,

[00:34:34] Leeds,

[00:34:34] he didn't know,

[00:34:35] what's happening,

[00:34:36] okay,

[00:34:37] he made the secretary,

[00:34:39] and said,

[00:34:39] I want this end result,

[00:34:41] you take the documents,

[00:34:42] so what happened,

[00:34:43] finally,

[00:34:43] West Ham were like,

[00:34:44] okay,

[00:34:44] you'll come to us,

[00:34:45] we'll talk to Leeds,

[00:34:46] and he said,

[00:34:47] no,

[00:34:48] you won't talk,

[00:34:49] first,

[00:34:49] he went,

[00:34:50] his relegation clause,

[00:34:52] Leeds,

[00:34:52] he said,

[00:34:53] okay,

[00:34:54] the moment,

[00:34:55] agent left his office,

[00:34:56] he called,

[00:34:57] West Ham said,

[00:34:58] you're free to talk,

[00:34:58] next one hour,

[00:34:59] the deal was done,

[00:35:01] and Leeds fans,

[00:35:02] were irritated with it,

[00:35:03] you played us,

[00:35:05] completely,

[00:35:07] okay,

[00:35:07] and eventually,

[00:35:08] West Ham's handing,

[00:35:08] for 25 odd million,

[00:35:09] or whatever it is,

[00:35:10] with a loan,

[00:35:11] to obligation to buy,

[00:35:12] and the moment,

[00:35:13] he came in yesterday,

[00:35:15] I wouldn't say that,

[00:35:16] I thought he will score,

[00:35:17] but I was so sure,

[00:35:19] either,

[00:35:19] he will be finished,

[00:35:22] or,

[00:35:23] Mathias,

[00:35:23] Delic,

[00:35:24] he will finish,

[00:35:25] because,

[00:35:26] Somerville,

[00:35:27] only knows one thing,

[00:35:28] which is,

[00:35:29] take the ball,

[00:35:29] and run,

[00:35:30] he is a road runner,

[00:35:31] and his goal,

[00:35:32] he also ran,

[00:35:33] he ran away,

[00:35:35] he didn't think,

[00:35:37] he was running,

[00:35:38] he was running,

[00:35:40] he was running,

[00:35:41] he was running,

[00:35:42] it wasn't a striker's finish,

[00:35:44] or right place,

[00:35:44] at the right time,

[00:35:45] he was running,

[00:35:46] and the ball came,

[00:35:47] I mean,

[00:35:48] I didn't say,

[00:35:49] I mean,

[00:35:49] the momentum,

[00:35:50] and the vision,

[00:35:50] is so much,

[00:35:51] we went,

[00:35:51] so far,

[00:35:52] the ball,

[00:35:52] the goal,

[00:35:52] finished,

[00:35:53] great finish,

[00:35:53] Rudolf Nilsk,

[00:35:54] finished,

[00:35:55] okay,

[00:35:56] so,

[00:35:57] it was like,

[00:35:58] but,

[00:35:59] now,

[00:36:00] yesterday,

[00:36:01] I think,

[00:36:01] I think the biggest player,

[00:36:03] I think,

[00:36:03] I think,

[00:36:04] it was Andre Onana,

[00:36:06] the moment,

[00:36:07] when the penalty call,

[00:36:09] happened,

[00:36:09] Andre Onana,

[00:36:10] just shook his head,

[00:36:11] and he was like,

[00:36:12] there is nothing,

[00:36:12] I can do anymore,

[00:36:14] he didn't get the whole game,

[00:36:16] hardly,

[00:36:16] chance,

[00:36:16] I think the fans came after West Time.

[00:36:18] There's nothing in the whole game.

[00:36:19] And you consider a penalty in the 90th minute.

[00:36:23] So, I think I felt very bad for Ronana.

[00:36:25] But yeah, I mean, it was done.

[00:36:27] Okay.

[00:36:27] So, now...

[00:36:30] That wasn't a penalty though, bro.

[00:36:32] No, fuck no.

[00:36:33] That's no better penalty.

[00:36:34] Like, all the more conspiracy theory about Michael Oliver being on VAR

[00:36:38] and Michael Oliver being Man City's 12th man.

[00:36:40] I think Michael Oliver needs to have...

[00:36:43] I think, first of all, Michael Oliver's Passion of the Christ,

[00:36:46] Mel Gibson's movie, show up.

[00:36:47] That's it.

[00:36:48] Then, say, Mel Gibson's role play will be your friends.

[00:36:53] The other clubs will be your fans.

[00:36:54] Okay?

[00:36:54] You'll throw it in the ceiling and you'll be your public vlogging.

[00:36:57] You've got an Arsenal game in a bad decision.

[00:37:01] Okay?

[00:37:02] In this game, you didn't ask your opinion.

[00:37:04] You're sitting in VAR.

[00:37:06] Your opinion here doesn't matter.

[00:37:08] Because the referee clearly said that you're not showing up.

[00:37:10] You, Salih, have been doing BJP.

[00:37:13] Which is not the same thing.

[00:37:14] He's talking about it and he's showing up.

[00:37:18] And the referee also saw it.

[00:37:19] At the end of the day.

[00:37:20] No, the referee said two times.

[00:37:22] No, he's not showing up.

[00:37:23] I'm not showing up.

[00:37:24] No, he's not showing up.

[00:37:25] What is it?

[00:37:26] Where is the ball?

[00:37:27] Okay, there's a clash of knees.

[00:37:29] What kind of penalty is he giving up?

[00:37:31] Give it.

[00:37:32] And I think somewhere down the line,

[00:37:35] this is my conspiracy.

[00:37:36] Many United fans have given money to Michael Oliver.

[00:37:38] He gave money to take 10-hack.

[00:37:40] Because when he's getting pressure,

[00:37:42] he's getting out of 10-hack results.

[00:37:44] Okay.

[00:37:44] So, I think the game of yesterday is that.

[00:37:46] But I think Michael Oliver should publicly be stripped of all his positions in the FA.

[00:37:51] He should not be anywhere near.

[00:37:54] Because this is not the first time which is happening with Michael Oliver.

[00:37:56] And somewhere down the line,

[00:37:58] Michael Oliver makes the most big hot topic in the NFL.

[00:38:01] Somewhere he helps to help you.

[00:38:04] If you don't have content,

[00:38:06] Oh, take it.

[00:38:07] I'll give it.

[00:38:07] This God podcast being one of them.

[00:38:11] So, yesterday's decision was shambolic.

[00:38:14] Beyond comprehensible for most fans.

[00:38:16] My friends are very Liverpool fans.

[00:38:18] So, they told me that that is the softest

[00:38:22] and the most daft penalty decision we have ever seen.

[00:38:25] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:38:26] It's absolutely daft.

[00:38:27] And unfortunately,

[00:38:29] it's just one of those things where you can't really cry and bone about it.

[00:38:31] But altogether,

[00:38:32] like I've said to a bunch of people on my social media

[00:38:35] who are talking about the game.

[00:38:37] Yes, it was a terrible decision.

[00:38:38] Yes, it should not have been a penalty.

[00:38:41] Yes, we were hard done by.

[00:38:42] But we also finish our chances.

[00:38:47] We had one of the best first halves I have seen

[00:38:51] United play this season.

[00:38:53] And more so because it was this West Ham team

[00:38:57] that was in front of us.

[00:38:58] West Ham are not really doing well under Lopetegi.

[00:39:01] They will not do well under Lopetegui.

[00:39:03] Lopetegui is the most fake manager I have ever seen in world football.

[00:39:08] I am not making this up.

[00:39:10] Lopetegui is...

[00:39:12] With all due respect to all the managers in the world,

[00:39:14] I honestly think in Premier League,

[00:39:16] after Pep Guardiola,

[00:39:18] the greatest manager in Premier League is Sean Dyche.

[00:39:21] And I am not making this shit up.

[00:39:22] I do agree because...

[00:39:25] If you can keep a Premier League team with 2 million budget at Burnley,

[00:39:29] you bloody need a statue build outside.

[00:39:31] Yeah.

[00:39:32] Whatever brand of football you play.

[00:39:34] Akarsh who is a resident Everton fan on this podcast

[00:39:36] who has not been on the podcast for a very long time,

[00:39:39] but Akarsh is an Everton fan.

[00:39:40] And he is saying that the new Brandly Mordock Stadium,

[00:39:43] which is the new one,

[00:39:44] the first time before Sean Dyche,

[00:39:46] make a big deal of short dash.

[00:39:47] I have not had many opinions in the match.

[00:39:50] This is our common opinion.

[00:39:52] We both said one thing.

[00:39:53] If you can stand in Premier League in 2 million,

[00:39:56] you can finish in a Premier League team,

[00:39:58] you are a genius.

[00:39:59] Forget that.

[00:40:00] You came to an Everton team

[00:40:02] who were destined for relegation.

[00:40:04] There was no chance on earth

[00:40:06] you were going to fight that relegation.

[00:40:08] You finished 15th.

[00:40:09] And they put you extra 10 point penalty

[00:40:12] if you add that you are finishing above Man United in that season.

[00:40:16] That's something.

[00:40:17] I mean, Sean Dyche is the greatest Premier League manager

[00:40:21] after Pep Guardiola who is operating right now.

[00:40:23] That's my personal opinion.

[00:40:24] I can be wrong.

[00:40:25] And people can call me.

[00:40:27] I feel like that is definitely something that I agree with.

[00:40:31] He's a Lopet.

[00:40:32] He's a FM manager.

[00:40:34] He's a football manager.

[00:40:35] Okay, you can see his full tenure.

[00:40:37] You have a Portuguese cartel

[00:40:39] and you have a title

[00:40:40] and then you have nothing to do.

[00:40:41] What is your claim to fame

[00:40:42] that you won Europa 1?

[00:40:44] Okay.

[00:40:44] Second is you beat

[00:40:45] you did a double over Man City

[00:40:47] which no one had ever done till then.

[00:40:49] Okay.

[00:40:49] Then Deezerby happened.

[00:40:51] Okay.

[00:40:51] So, he's not going to do anything.

[00:40:53] And guess what?

[00:40:54] West Ham fans already want him sacked.

[00:40:56] Even yesterday's performance.

[00:40:58] So, there are two things

[00:40:59] which are happening at West Ham

[00:41:00] which a lot of people don't know.

[00:41:01] They don't want Aaron Manbisaka to play anymore.

[00:41:03] They said he's a useless player

[00:41:05] because they think Aaron Cresswell is better.

[00:41:08] Okay.

[00:41:09] And their defense is a lot better with Todibo

[00:41:11] which we saw in the second half also.

[00:41:12] United did not get chances

[00:41:13] because Todibo is genuinely good.

[00:41:15] Okay.

[00:41:15] They want Aaron Manbisaka gone.

[00:41:17] And the second thing they want is

[00:41:19] Lopet Gui to just go.

[00:41:21] They were like

[00:41:21] we made a mistake

[00:41:22] asking David Moyes to be sacked.

[00:41:24] But the football under David Moyes

[00:41:25] was a lot more entertaining than Lopet Gui.

[00:41:27] At least we had three points.

[00:41:28] Here he's not.

[00:41:29] He's not.

[00:41:30] So, he's a very scam manager.

[00:41:32] I mean

[00:41:33] Lopet Gui can go and build a bloody World Cup.

[00:41:35] I'm not going to rate him also.

[00:41:36] This is my personal opinion.

[00:41:37] Not that it makes his life much different.

[00:41:40] But brother,

[00:41:40] he's a very scam manager.

[00:41:41] I'm sure Lopet Gui is there somewhere.

[00:41:44] Prashant from Ireland is saying something.

[00:41:46] I can't get sleep tonight.

[00:41:48] I mean

[00:41:49] he's highly overrated.

[00:41:51] Okay.

[00:41:51] I honestly think

[00:41:53] I honestly think

[00:41:54] he's a free rider manager.

[00:41:56] He was in a good team

[00:41:58] at the right time.

[00:41:59] He reaped rewards of a good team.

[00:42:01] Yeah.

[00:42:03] He's a lot like

[00:42:03] Julian Nagelsmann.

[00:42:05] Let me say it that way.

[00:42:06] Alright.

[00:42:07] Alright.

[00:42:07] Cool.

[00:42:07] So, let's now move the

[00:42:10] chat to the final

[00:42:11] piece of this conversation

[00:42:13] that we should get to

[00:42:14] which is that

[00:42:14] Abhi Tenag niklai.

[00:42:16] We know that

[00:42:17] Rudvan Isltero is going to be

[00:42:18] interim manager for

[00:42:19] God knows how long

[00:42:20] but he is

[00:42:21] going to be in temporary charge.

[00:42:23] Rudvan Isltero also the player

[00:42:25] that I started following

[00:42:27] Man United for.

[00:42:28] My first year is

[00:42:29] Rudvan Isltero.

[00:42:29] Yeah.

[00:42:30] Yeah.

[00:42:31] My entry into

[00:42:32] United was

[00:42:32] Rudvan Isltero.

[00:42:33] So,

[00:42:34] I'm really happy for him.

[00:42:35] I'm happy that he's back.

[00:42:36] I'm happy that

[00:42:37] I'm sad that

[00:42:38] he's getting the job

[00:42:39] in these circumstances

[00:42:40] but I'm excited to see

[00:42:42] what he does.

[00:42:43] But then who?

[00:42:45] According to you,

[00:42:46] who should be the

[00:42:46] permanent manager?

[00:42:47] And we have had a lot

[00:42:48] of names being floated.

[00:42:50] Some fans though want

[00:42:51] Zinedine Zidane

[00:42:52] which I think is

[00:42:52] ridiculous.

[00:42:53] English don't do

[00:42:54] English.

[00:42:55] Don't tell the fans

[00:42:55] about that.

[00:42:56] The first requirement

[00:42:57] to manage in Premier League

[00:42:58] is you need to speak

[00:42:58] English.

[00:42:59] Marcelo Bielsa was

[00:43:00] the only exception.

[00:43:01] But after that,

[00:43:02] he left his translator

[00:43:02] and left his translator.

[00:43:03] Tell him,

[00:43:03] how much he does.

[00:43:06] I'm not saying

[00:43:06] words per minute.

[00:43:08] But yeah,

[00:43:09] Zidane has been

[00:43:09] spoken about.

[00:43:11] Nagelsman has been

[00:43:12] spoken about.

[00:43:13] Before Tuchel took

[00:43:14] the England job,

[00:43:15] Tuchel was a candidate.

[00:43:17] Again,

[00:43:17] I would not have been

[00:43:18] very happy.

[00:43:20] Absurdly,

[00:43:21] Gareth Southgate

[00:43:21] and Graham Potter

[00:43:22] have also been

[00:43:23] floated as contenders.

[00:43:25] But the most

[00:43:27] concrete link

[00:43:29] and this is

[00:43:30] probably because

[00:43:31] his wife posted

[00:43:32] a picture of him

[00:43:33] at home with his son

[00:43:34] who was wearing

[00:43:35] a Man United jersey

[00:43:36] is Jabi.

[00:43:38] So let's start.

[00:43:39] Firstly,

[00:43:39] in one word,

[00:43:41] who would your

[00:43:42] pick be

[00:43:42] to be the next manager?

[00:43:44] My pick,

[00:43:45] if everything

[00:43:45] was hypothetical,

[00:43:48] Jabi Alonso.

[00:43:50] Fair.

[00:43:51] That's a very

[00:43:51] strong pick.

[00:43:52] My pick,

[00:43:53] if everything was

[00:43:55] would have been

[00:43:55] Jabi Alonso,

[00:43:56] but a slightly

[00:43:57] more realistic pick

[00:43:57] for me would be

[00:43:58] Luis Enrique.

[00:43:59] That's not realistic.

[00:44:00] Now he signed

[00:44:02] in BSG.

[00:44:02] Which is why

[00:44:04] slightly more

[00:44:05] realistic than

[00:44:05] former Liverpool

[00:44:06] player coming

[00:44:07] to manage United.

[00:44:08] Former Liverpool

[00:44:09] player,

[00:44:09] frontrunner for

[00:44:10] Madrid job.

[00:44:11] Frontrunner.

[00:44:12] Yeah,

[00:44:12] exactly.

[00:44:13] If he is leaving

[00:44:14] Leverkusen...

[00:44:15] Let's be very

[00:44:16] honest,

[00:44:17] he is never

[00:44:17] going to take

[00:44:18] the United job

[00:44:18] even if they

[00:44:19] said we are

[00:44:20] going to offer

[00:44:20] you everything.

[00:44:22] That's why I

[00:44:23] said hypothetically,

[00:44:23] but a very

[00:44:24] realistic candidate

[00:44:25] who I think

[00:44:26] will take over.

[00:44:28] This is a very

[00:44:28] left field thought.

[00:44:29] I think Roberto

[00:44:30] Di Zerbi will

[00:44:30] come back in

[00:44:31] Premier League.

[00:44:33] Things are not

[00:44:34] going well with

[00:44:34] him in France.

[00:44:35] But,

[00:44:36] no,

[00:44:37] but that's fine.

[00:44:37] But do you

[00:44:38] think Di Zerbi

[00:44:39] is worthy of

[00:44:39] the United job?

[00:44:40] Do you think

[00:44:40] that he has

[00:44:41] done enough to

[00:44:41] take the United

[00:44:42] job?

[00:44:43] The only reason

[00:44:43] I'm saying

[00:44:44] Luis Enrique

[00:44:44] is because

[00:44:46] he has the

[00:44:47] pedigree.

[00:44:48] He has the

[00:44:49] pedigree of

[00:44:49] having managed

[00:44:49] Barcelona.

[00:44:50] Yeah.

[00:44:51] Domestic

[00:44:53] treble in PSG

[00:44:54] last year by

[00:44:54] either way.

[00:44:55] Yeah.

[00:44:56] So,

[00:44:57] and of course

[00:44:57] a lot of

[00:44:58] people will

[00:44:58] say a

[00:44:58] domestic treble

[00:44:59] at PSG

[00:44:59] doesn't mean

[00:45:00] much.

[00:45:01] No,

[00:45:01] you don't

[00:45:01] have to do

[00:45:02] what to do

[00:45:05] But he is

[00:45:06] French

[00:45:07] league.

[00:45:07] And he is

[00:45:08] playing FIFA

[00:45:10] on amateur

[00:45:11] mode.

[00:45:12] But regardless,

[00:45:13] regardless,

[00:45:14] he is a

[00:45:14] manager who

[00:45:15] is dealing

[00:45:16] with big

[00:45:18] players and

[00:45:19] their egos.

[00:45:20] Correct.

[00:45:20] He is a

[00:45:20] manager who

[00:45:21] is tactically

[00:45:22] astute because

[00:45:22] he has taken

[00:45:23] Barcelona to

[00:45:25] many,

[00:45:25] many.

[00:45:26] One of the

[00:45:26] greatest

[00:45:26] shites after

[00:45:27] Pep Guard

[00:45:27] exactly.

[00:45:29] Exactly.

[00:45:30] I feel like

[00:45:31] he slash

[00:45:33] Hansi Flick

[00:45:34] and Hansi Flick

[00:45:35] only because of

[00:45:36] how he is

[00:45:36] performing with

[00:45:37] Barcelona right

[00:45:38] now.

[00:45:38] Nothing to do

[00:45:39] before that

[00:45:41] would be my

[00:45:42] contenders and

[00:45:42] Luis Enrique on

[00:45:43] top of them.

[00:45:43] But I know

[00:45:44] that's not

[00:45:44] going to happen.

[00:45:45] Yeah.

[00:45:46] Not going to

[00:45:46] happen.

[00:45:47] Robert

[00:45:47] De Zerbi

[00:45:47] is.

[00:45:48] Robert

[00:45:48] and De Zerbi.

[00:45:49] Realistically

[00:45:49] I think that

[00:45:50] he will

[00:45:51] Robert

[00:45:52] Amor.

[00:45:53] Okay.

[00:45:54] One of

[00:45:55] those.

[00:45:55] But Amor

[00:45:56] also said

[00:45:57] that he is

[00:45:57] reluctant to

[00:45:58] leave.

[00:45:58] Before that

[00:45:59] I will tell

[00:45:59] you something.

[00:46:00] There are

[00:46:00] a couple of

[00:46:01] things which

[00:46:01] I think

[00:46:02] Inua should

[00:46:02] do.

[00:46:02] First,

[00:46:03] don't appoint

[00:46:03] anyone till

[00:46:04] summer.

[00:46:05] You don't

[00:46:05] have any

[00:46:05] candidates right

[00:46:06] now.

[00:46:08] Your only

[00:46:09] available

[00:46:09] candidates are

[00:46:09] Potter and

[00:46:10] Southgate.

[00:46:11] Don't do it

[00:46:12] if you want

[00:46:12] to get

[00:46:12] another reaction

[00:46:13] from the

[00:46:14] United

[00:46:14] families.

[00:46:15] Yeah.

[00:46:15] Okay.

[00:46:16] Don't

[00:46:16] appoint both

[00:46:17] of them

[00:46:17] because they

[00:46:17] both are

[00:46:18] absolutely

[00:46:18] useless.

[00:46:19] At least

[00:46:20] I have a

[00:46:20] lot of

[00:46:20] respect for

[00:46:21] Graham

[00:46:21] Potter

[00:46:21] because he

[00:46:22] started his

[00:46:23] career in

[00:46:23] Sweden in

[00:46:24] women's

[00:46:24] football,

[00:46:25] built his

[00:46:25] way up.

[00:46:26] Good

[00:46:26] manager,

[00:46:27] decent

[00:46:27] manager.

[00:46:28] Chelsea move

[00:46:28] did not

[00:46:29] work out

[00:46:29] but he's a

[00:46:29] decent

[00:46:30] manager but I

[00:46:30] don't want

[00:46:30] him.

[00:46:31] But he's a

[00:46:32] decent

[00:46:33] mid-table club

[00:46:34] manager.

[00:46:35] He's not a

[00:46:35] decent top six

[00:46:36] club manager.

[00:46:36] He's David

[00:46:37] Moyes kind of

[00:46:38] manager who

[00:46:39] will do

[00:46:39] very mid-table

[00:46:40] jobs.

[00:46:41] Yes.

[00:46:41] And there's

[00:46:42] no shame

[00:46:43] in that.

[00:46:43] You get a

[00:46:44] fucking kick-ass

[00:46:45] job at a

[00:46:45] West Ham or

[00:46:47] at a Crystal

[00:46:47] Palace and get

[00:46:48] them consistently.

[00:46:49] The greatest

[00:46:50] credit I can

[00:46:50] give to Graham

[00:46:51] Potter or

[00:46:51] people of

[00:46:52] that origin is

[00:46:53] you are like

[00:46:53] Tony Poulos.

[00:46:54] There is nothing

[00:46:56] more iconic than

[00:46:57] Tony Poulos and

[00:46:58] Stoke City.

[00:47:01] I'm very sure

[00:47:01] if they played

[00:47:02] Real Madrid they

[00:47:03] would lose at

[00:47:03] Stoke.

[00:47:04] That's why they

[00:47:05] say can you do

[00:47:06] on a cold windy

[00:47:07] night in Stoke.

[00:47:07] It's not possible.

[00:47:09] It's written

[00:47:10] there.

[00:47:10] Anyways,

[00:47:11] coming back to

[00:47:11] our discussion.

[00:47:14] I think we

[00:47:15] should not jump

[00:47:16] in and appoint

[00:47:17] someone straight

[00:47:17] away.

[00:47:18] Right now

[00:47:19] emotions are

[00:47:20] running high

[00:47:20] between fans,

[00:47:22] the owners.

[00:47:22] Everything is

[00:47:23] very high.

[00:47:24] I think

[00:47:25] Rudvan Nistroy

[00:47:26] till summer

[00:47:27] is a decent

[00:47:28] shout.

[00:47:28] The only reason

[00:47:29] being he's

[00:47:30] already been a

[00:47:30] manager at

[00:47:31] PSV.

[00:47:31] He finished

[00:47:32] second.

[00:47:33] He won

[00:47:33] couple of

[00:47:34] trophies.

[00:47:34] He's also

[00:47:34] a 10-hug kind

[00:47:35] of manager.

[00:47:36] He won the

[00:47:37] title.

[00:47:37] He won the

[00:47:38] cup.

[00:47:41] Last game

[00:47:42] of the season

[00:47:42] he announces

[00:47:43] resignation

[00:47:44] saying that

[00:47:45] he's

[00:47:46] left

[00:47:46] and

[00:47:48] left

[00:47:48] him.

[00:47:49] He quit

[00:47:50] his job.

[00:47:51] Then he came

[00:47:51] here as the

[00:47:51] manager.

[00:47:53] Summer

[00:47:53] will be

[00:47:54] very

[00:47:55] manager

[00:47:56] contract

[00:47:57] is

[00:47:57] finished.

[00:47:58] He's

[00:47:58] one of

[00:47:58] Chabby

[00:47:59] Alonso.

[00:48:00] Conte

[00:48:01] only

[00:48:01] one year.

[00:48:02] contract

[00:48:03] Morinio

[00:48:03] has publicly

[00:48:04] asked me

[00:48:05] to take

[00:48:05] this

[00:48:06] I think

[00:48:09] there will be

[00:48:10] many things

[00:48:10] in the summer

[00:48:11] Ruben Amorim

[00:48:12] will be

[00:48:12] released

[00:48:13] clause

[00:48:13] activated

[00:48:13] which is

[00:48:14] 13 million

[00:48:15] or 14 million

[00:48:16] we can

[00:48:16] have

[00:48:18] Anthony

[00:48:19] but

[00:48:20] there are

[00:48:20] so many

[00:48:20] people

[00:48:21] don't

[00:48:21] have

[00:48:21] to take

[00:48:21] Antony

[00:48:22] and Ruben

[00:48:22] Amorim

[00:48:22] to take

[00:48:25] a lot of time

[00:48:26] I think

[00:48:27] it is

[00:48:28] in the summer

[00:48:29] there will be

[00:48:29] clarity

[00:48:29] a popular

[00:48:30] candidate

[00:48:31] that is

[00:48:32] very

[00:48:32] great

[00:48:33] United

[00:48:33] is

[00:48:34] Brentford

[00:48:34] manager

[00:48:35] Thomas

[00:48:35] Frank

[00:48:36] I

[00:48:36] have

[00:48:37] very

[00:48:37] good

[00:48:38] man

[00:48:39] but

[00:48:40] no

[00:48:40] no

[00:48:41] it is

[00:48:43] again

[00:48:44] you are

[00:48:44] as a

[00:48:45] supposed

[00:48:46] big six

[00:48:47] club

[00:48:49] supposed

[00:48:50] one of the

[00:48:50] biggest clubs

[00:48:51] in the

[00:48:51] country

[00:48:52] if not

[00:48:52] the

[00:48:53] world

[00:48:53] you can't

[00:48:54] be hiring

[00:48:55] managers

[00:48:55] like

[00:48:55] Thomas

[00:48:55] Frank

[00:48:56] let's

[00:48:57] put it

[00:48:57] that

[00:48:57] way

[00:48:57] you can't

[00:48:58] be

[00:48:58] TCS

[00:48:58] where

[00:48:58] you are

[00:48:58] saying

[00:48:59] that

[00:48:59] I'll

[00:48:59] pay you less and I'll give you experience to jump to a big

[00:49:01] job. Yeah. That's not

[00:49:03] going to happen. What do you

[00:49:05] feel about Javi then? What do I feel

[00:49:07] about Javi? I don't need to replace the pants for the pants.

[00:49:10] Thank you.

[00:49:11] Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

[00:49:13] I cannot begin to tell you

[00:49:15] how infuriating it is to

[00:49:17] see United fans get excited at the

[00:49:19] prospect of Javi being the next United manager.

[00:49:21] Just because you're a great player does not make you a great

[00:49:23] manager. One, you won a title in

[00:49:25] Barcelona when Real Madrid were at their

[00:49:27] lowest. They had the worst injury

[00:49:29] crisis after that COVID era.

[00:49:32] Secondly,

[00:49:34] have you not

[00:49:35] forgotten how

[00:49:36] Javi's relationship with Barcelona ended?

[00:49:39] Forget it.

[00:49:41] Yes, it is.

[00:49:43] But Javi said in the

[00:49:45] middle of the season, at the end of the season

[00:49:47] I'm going to go. I can't stay here.

[00:49:50] I'm going to fuck off.

[00:49:53] Because this club is now fucked.

[00:49:55] It is fucked up beyond repair.

[00:49:57] I'm not going to be the

[00:49:59] entire structure.

[00:50:01] It's too much for me.

[00:50:02] I cannot take this pressure.

[00:50:04] I am leaving.

[00:50:05] Then John Laporta said,

[00:50:06] No, you're a club legend.

[00:50:07] How can he leave?

[00:50:08] He gave him a new contract.

[00:50:10] Then he gave him a sack.

[00:50:11] Yeah.

[00:50:12] He's a legend.

[00:50:12] He's this.

[00:50:13] He's that.

[00:50:13] We really want him to say.

[00:50:15] We hope he reconsiders.

[00:50:16] New contract.

[00:50:16] Javi said, okay, fine.

[00:50:18] I'll stay.

[00:50:18] Three weeks later,

[00:50:20] okay, fuck off.

[00:50:20] You're sacked.

[00:50:21] It is the most fucking daft timeline of events.

[00:50:29] The timeline of events I have seen in football because it is just so pathetically stupid.

[00:50:35] And what does it say about you as a manager where you are like, I am a Barcelona legend player.

[00:50:41] See the term for that what you're looking for.

[00:50:44] Chavi is kadi patta.

[00:50:45] He is kadi patta?

[00:50:47] He doesn't know what he's doing.

[00:51:17] Chavi is obsessed.

[00:51:18] The prodigal son is back.

[00:51:21] Yeah.

[00:51:22] Grandfather.

[00:51:23] Yeah, I mean grandfather.

[00:51:24] Prodigal son can't even say.

[00:51:25] Okay.

[00:51:26] I mean, look.

[00:51:28] Okay.

[00:51:28] I have a very humble request to United fans.

[00:51:31] Sometimes it's okay not to be reactionary and accept that, yeah, we need time.

[00:51:36] Yeah.

[00:51:37] Okay.

[00:51:37] Right now, we as United fans need time.

[00:51:40] And we don't need time because we are bad.

[00:51:42] Because we need time to understand what's happening.

[00:51:45] Yeah.

[00:51:45] There are too many things happening at Man United.

[00:51:47] See, there are so many changes when you are doing together.

[00:51:50] Where are you?

[00:51:51] Anywhere.

[00:51:52] In other words, I have played a game.

[00:51:54] Okay.

[00:51:54] I have played a girl friend.

[00:51:55] Truth or dare game.

[00:51:58] You have not done a big deal.

[00:52:00] You have done a strategy.

[00:52:02] You have done a strategy.

[00:52:03] Now, in United, the name of the strategy is missing.

[00:52:06] Okay.

[00:52:06] So, let's have a bit quiet.

[00:52:08] Okay.

[00:52:09] There are so many things.

[00:52:10] I have read today that United fans are saying that right of the season.

[00:52:13] Are you going to be good?

[00:52:15] Control all, delete the bucket.

[00:52:16] Task manager is the game end.

[00:52:19] How many games are there?

[00:52:20] The season is long.

[00:52:21] 29 games are still.

[00:52:22] There's still a fair view to go.

[00:52:23] Correct.

[00:52:23] There are 29 games in Premier League.

[00:52:26] Okay.

[00:52:26] A lot of things can change.

[00:52:27] You don't have to worry about it.

[00:52:29] I'm not saying that we'll not make a comeback and anything of that nature.

[00:52:33] Right now, we don't need to be wild.

[00:52:35] Because I saw a lot of fans who are posting multiple things.

[00:52:39] Glad that Baldi is gone.

[00:52:40] With him, we are never going to win anything.

[00:52:42] We don't need that shit.

[00:52:43] Yeah.

[00:52:44] Okay.

[00:52:44] Having said that, take a step back.

[00:52:46] New slash we already did, by the way.

[00:52:48] Yeah.

[00:52:48] If you were living under the rock for the last two years, already won things.

[00:52:53] Yeah.

[00:52:53] And take a step back.

[00:52:55] Right now, United need to understand what do they want.

[00:53:00] Ineos board needs to sit down and understand what kind of manager do we want.

[00:53:04] Do we want a manager who's ready to rebuild?

[00:53:07] Okay.

[00:53:08] Who's there saying that, okay.

[00:53:10] If we win 10 games with this, but we want to stick to it.

[00:53:12] Like I had interviewed an Arna Slott interview.

[00:53:16] So, the owner of the Liverpool, Michael Edwards, who was the CEO of the Liverpool, said that we know that Arna Slott comes with a risk.

[00:53:23] But we are going to back him to play the brand of football which he has shown the presentation how he will play.

[00:53:29] And fair play to them.

[00:53:30] They are playing the way how it's supposed to be played.

[00:53:32] And yeah, the results are there for everyone to see.

[00:53:35] For a team who was not considered to be going for the title this year, they are there and thereabouts.

[00:53:40] Whether they win or not is a different story.

[00:53:41] They are there and thereabouts.

[00:53:43] Right now, United board needs to sit down and think, what do we want?

[00:53:48] Do we want a young dynamic manager who will come and say, this is what I'm going to do.

[00:53:53] This is my style of play.

[00:53:55] Let's stick to it.

[00:53:55] So, then your names like Julian Nagelsman, who I think is very overrated.

[00:54:00] He's not even half decent.

[00:54:01] Okay.

[00:54:03] All these kind of managers who you are ready to invest.

[00:54:05] Are you going to spend time with them?

[00:54:07] Or you are going the age-old way where you are saying, Thomas Tuchel, FA, FA buyout is how much?

[00:54:12] Get the money, give me Thomas Tuchel.

[00:54:14] Now or now, I want you.

[00:54:15] Now.

[00:54:16] Okay.

[00:54:17] That's your way.

[00:54:18] So, Ineas board also knows.

[00:54:20] Now, this is a 40-40 player.

[00:54:22] You really don't know how to play.

[00:54:23] That's a 40-40 player.

[00:54:53] That's a 40-40 player.

[00:54:54] Or the media will eat you.

[00:54:56] Yeah.

[00:54:57] That means, you are their favorite food for every week.

[00:55:01] They will eat you.

[00:55:03] Yeah.

[00:55:03] Okay.

[00:55:04] Essentially, what happened with Ten Hag also, to a certain extent.

[00:55:07] Yeah.

[00:55:07] But because, and let's be honest, right?

[00:55:09] Ten Hag was a loud mouth.

[00:55:11] Okay.

[00:55:12] He was a loud mouth.

[00:55:13] He called spade a spade and the media doesn't like it.

[00:55:15] And whatever it is.

[00:55:17] Okay.

[00:55:17] Eventually, his downfall.

[00:55:18] I honestly think, summer may be a lot of clarity for United.

[00:55:23] Now, you keep the rude awareness.

[00:55:25] It's not that he has not done it.

[00:55:27] He has managed.

[00:55:28] Okay.

[00:55:29] Now, he will not be able to go three at the back.

[00:55:33] Okay.

[00:55:33] That's not a big thing.

[00:55:35] Right now, United have to get till Christmas.

[00:55:38] Look, it can happen.

[00:55:41] I'll give you an example.

[00:55:43] Bayer Leverkusen aren't having the greatest of seasons.

[00:55:46] Okay.

[00:55:47] I mean, I'm not saying that Vincent Company is lighting it up at Bayan.

[00:55:51] But Bayan are back to normal.

[00:55:54] Yeah.

[00:55:54] Leverkusen was a blip last year.

[00:55:57] Yeah.

[00:55:57] It's not going well at Leverkusen as much as they expected last year.

[00:56:01] So, a lot of things will change in the summer.

[00:56:03] So, I think United just needs to be patient.

[00:56:05] Wait.

[00:56:06] We'll see what happens.

[00:56:07] Yeah.

[00:56:08] If you're not a bad manager, do a job.

[00:56:12] Ule call it.

[00:56:13] You need to give up vibes.

[00:56:16] Bye.

[00:56:16] Wives.

[00:56:17] Get vibes FC back.

[00:56:19] Yeah.

[00:56:19] I mean, look at 4-5-0.

[00:56:21] Then, after 2 years, we'll go back to this place.

[00:56:23] How quickly do you think people are going to be like, man, we were unfair to Eric Ten Hag.

[00:56:30] Eric Ten Hag was right.

[00:56:31] We were so wrong for letting him go.

[00:56:35] December 6th is the day.

[00:56:36] City Derby.

[00:56:38] Take care.

[00:56:38] All right.

[00:56:39] Take care.

[00:56:40] On that note, it is time to end this episode of The Conflict.

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[00:57:14] Say bye, Prashant.

[00:57:15] Bye-bye, guys.

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[00:57:17] And it's bye from me.