[00:00:00] Erling Harlan scores 4 goals but team thinks he is a spoiled brat and oh Mumbai City have a trophy
[00:00:06] Welcome to The Corner Flag, I am Amogh and I am Mukesh
[00:00:09] Oh Mukesh what a lovely Monday this is
[00:00:21] Regardless of what happens in the Premier League where I may or may not support a team
[00:00:26] It feels so good to know that my home team has won a trophy
[00:00:32] Yes Mumbai City FC have won the ISL trophy 2023-24
[00:00:38] What a feeling to wake up as a champion
[00:00:43] Oof it's been a while
[00:00:46] Yes and it seems like it really felt like a very exciting match like it didn't seem like a
[00:00:52] a drumming of any sort the atmosphere was fantastic at least like from the screen which I saw
[00:00:59] I wasn't there in the stadium but it just felt like a worthy final
[00:01:04] Man Indian football is looking great what a final right what a good looking final like
[00:01:08] Yeah and the thing is it's it's not just this one game of course this one game was fantastic
[00:01:14] but overall in the season I think Mumbai City FC have done something spectacular because
[00:01:21] they've had to deal with a lot of issues obviously uh uh Des Buckingham left in the middle of the
[00:01:27] season so you know going through a change of coach in the middle of the season is never easy
[00:01:32] adapted to that really well after Des left a couple of key players also left in the
[00:01:37] in the winter transfer window uh Rostin Griffiths Greg Stewart a couple of key players
[00:01:44] happened to move on and you know as as Mumbai City FC fans we were worried about how we're
[00:01:50] going to cope with the loss of these two players who've been very very instrumental
[00:01:53] in the success that Mumbai City have had in the past few seasons but dealt with that fairly well
[00:01:59] got a fantastic Spanish forward by the name of Icar Gaurat Sena who hit the ground running started
[00:02:06] scoring goals right from the start but then we lost him to an ACL injury so it was just one
[00:02:13] setback after the other and to still finish the league in second place which we could have
[00:02:20] also won had it not been to that last day defeat to Mohan Bagan uh to finish second in the league
[00:02:27] and then to to defeat FC Goa the way we did in the semi-finals coming back from 2-0 down at the
[00:02:33] Fathorah in Goa to win 3-2 and then a really well organized victory at the Mumbai football arena
[00:02:42] I think this team has grown so well and it was revenge time against those Mohan Bagan super
[00:02:49] giants yes I'm in in character like it was about 60-2000 was that the official count of the number
[00:02:56] of fines and it real and it I'm sorry but I was so like you know watching the match I barely saw
[00:03:03] Mumbai FC supporters like it just felt like so for the team to perform for them oh wow
[00:03:11] 20 Mumbai City FC supporters from the west coast brigade actually travelled to Kolkata for the game
[00:03:17] and they were there they were singing they were dancing they did the Poznan when we scored every
[00:03:23] goal as they do here at the Mumbai football arena and the beauty is because they they travelled to
[00:03:31] Kolkata the team hosted them for the post-election celebrations so all these fans were partying
[00:03:38] with the squad and it was just fantastic to see because that is the beauty of Indian football
[00:03:45] right and maybe it's because it's not as big as European football one may say but the beauty is
[00:03:51] that such a lovely no there's such a lovely connection between the team and the fans you
[00:03:59] know like literally fans go up to the coach and give him a hug like you can't ever imagine that
[00:04:07] happening in in the Premier League right but it's happening here and I would implore people
[00:04:11] in India who follow football to find your local ISL team or in ISL team that's not in your city
[00:04:17] or state but you just identify with and love and get involved man because these are the golden years
[00:04:23] and it's it's it's something else yeah and it's incredible because we don't have the so-called
[00:04:29] numbers and yet first of all 62,000 people turned up so you love and you got the 20 people who
[00:04:34] turned up for the other team to celebrate with the actual team like you have yeah it's
[00:04:38] strange that you can fill out stadiums and still get an intimate experience with the team like I feel
[00:04:43] like it's Indian football is in a really nice place like it's not so poor that there's like 10 people
[00:04:48] in the whole stadium but it's also not so big that teams kind of fought to celebrate with fans
[00:04:53] individually so I think it's probably the best time to be an Indian football fan because you
[00:04:58] can get moments like this right you get a full stadium you get access to the players and the
[00:05:02] coach oh my god but the game itself was exciting I feel like enough praising yeah
[00:05:08] you know in fact so I was I was at Ghatkopar social where the the fans had organized an official
[00:05:14] screening over here so it was packed there were about 300 fans in Ghatkopar social just
[00:05:19] singing and partying right nice and as like as soon as the game started Mumbai city were dominating
[00:05:28] Mohan Bagan didn't have an inch into the game the Mumbai goalkeeper Purva Lachanpap barely
[00:05:32] had anything to do at just one save with his feet that he had to make but apart from that
[00:05:36] they had nothing happening in the Mumbai city right like Mumbai city were dominating that entire
[00:05:41] first half and then the mistake happens he doesn't carry the ball away from Goli Pariyod straight
[00:05:47] in the in the way of Jason Cummings from Mohan Bagan who slots it in and while the mood suddenly
[00:05:54] went down and everybody was worried about what is going to happen because let's not forget
[00:05:58] Mohan Bagan are a very very strong club they are probably and people might say that oh
[00:06:04] because Mumbai city is city football group they have a lot of money Mohan Bagan actually have the
[00:06:08] most expensive squad it's not it's not Mumbai city FC and they're going to make even bigger transfers
[00:06:14] if rumors are to be believed next season and obviously like it's not an easy game right
[00:06:19] like it's not an easy opponent is not an easy game so everybody was a little down and I remember
[00:06:23] speaking to a bunch of fans and I said I am so happy that Mohan Bagan has scored right now
[00:06:28] against the run of play at 40 minutes or 38 minutes or whatever it was close to half time
[00:06:33] and I'm so happy that they are going into half time one-nil up because if with this much possession
[00:06:40] with this much dominance if if Mumbai would have gone into half time 0-0 they would have come back out
[00:06:47] and they would have been a different team altogether and by the I mean Mohan Bagan
[00:06:52] and he would have scored later on in the second half it would have been difficult but because
[00:06:57] Mohan Bagan scored in the first half and they went into half time one-nil up I feel like
[00:07:01] the coach Peter Krattke knew exactly what needed to be done what needed to be said to those players
[00:07:08] at half time and when they came back out it was more of the same like it was the same level of
[00:07:13] dominance and they finished their chances and it was a perfect performance. It was incredible
[00:07:19] because I think for the first 43 minutes I think Mohan Bagan didn't even attack I've been
[00:07:24] thinking I don't know if they had a shot or let alone a shot on target and suddenly out
[00:07:28] of nowhere that was like one belter of a shot and then Lacharpa does which actually I don't
[00:07:32] think he meant to parry it I think he practically acted on it probably like you know and mess up
[00:07:37] in position I think I think he was just surprised he wasn't expecting that he was because he was
[00:07:43] not expecting a shot. He was not expecting a shot. And the power I think was also not
[00:07:48] expecting that level of power because they I think there was something almost
[00:07:54] like a murderous in the way Mohan Bagan was playing in that there was like a deep
[00:07:59] block and then it was like you wait and you wait and then you took that one chance they got
[00:08:04] and I think they were prepared for a 1-0 victory. It looked like I think in the second half like
[00:08:08] you said they were very happy with Mumbai having the ball and they were like okay we will hold
[00:08:12] this scoreline until as long as we can and then we will see if we can sneak in a late goal
[00:08:17] to make it 2-0 but they look like they would have been very happy with a 1-0 score even
[00:08:22] at the 80th minute or 85th minute which I think was probably the one mistake that they did like
[00:08:27] I think they could have played with Mumbai's nerves a little more but I think the way
[00:08:31] Mumbai came out just attacking Kolkata I just wanted to absorb Mohan Bagan just wanted
[00:08:36] to absorb the pressure and then I think that was a big mistake they did. Absolutely and
[00:08:42] we mentioned how 20 people from Mumbai travelled over there there were a few other people
[00:08:46] from all over the country some influencers were in the stands and influencers not named
[00:08:53] Amogran Divey oh my god terrible influence is not named Amogran Divey listen listen I do my work
[00:08:59] for the team that I support alright not for anybody else tomorrow if Mohan Bagan came to me
[00:09:04] and offered me a truckload of more cash I wouldn't go and do it because it goes against
[00:09:09] 10 crores
[00:09:13] we'll think about it
[00:09:21] if it's life changing money then maybe but I don't think these influencers were being paid life
[00:09:26] changing money I just found it extremely like it was just hilarious to see these influencers
[00:09:32] sit with the Mohan Bagan fans and cheer and chant with the Mohan Bagan fans when Mohan Bagan scored
[00:09:38] and then at the end of it they're on the pitch chilling with the Mumbai FC players like just like
[00:09:48] I mean a little bit grow a fucking spine like honestly
[00:09:51] I'm a united fan I'll only support you right it bro I'm a Chelsea fan everything else is shit
[00:10:03] but either some plastic
[00:10:08] annoying shit and it's kind of gross because I don't know if they know but it's being recorded
[00:10:16] they're behaving like there is no live recording this match they are putting it on themselves
[00:10:21] I saw the first half of the reel that Dode was in the stands with Mohan Bagan enjoying and partying
[00:10:26] with him when they scored the goal like oh my team has scored second half of the reel was
[00:10:32] profi celebration chilling with Vikram Pratap you know I think it's like they've misunderstood
[00:10:39] meaning of what 45 minutes you change your sight and I'm like that doesn't apply to fans
[00:10:43] that applies only to the teams playing you don't you don't change the sides that you support there
[00:10:51] oh my god this is this is what I call the speedification of India like you're getting
[00:10:57] nonsense Chuti up into the world of football uh fucking zero zero self-awareness I feel but
[00:11:05] I'm sure they got paid for it so so well done I just feel like if you ask them
[00:11:11] if you go to any of these influencers ask them I said listen which ISL club do you support
[00:11:15] they'll have no answer oh actually I support east mohan bagan
[00:11:20] east mohan bagan ctsc yeah chai super kings fc csk actually actually bro I support real barcelona
[00:11:29] real barcelona if they ask you a little bit
[00:11:33] superficial or superficial they'll ask you a little bit
[00:11:36] sub all the all the I feel they're not superficial they're very much
[00:11:40] fissual about who they support very very fissual about who they support right but great stuff great
[00:11:48] stuff it is great to have a trophy in the bag uh haven't felt that with Manchester United in a
[00:11:54] very long time so I'm happy that Moombay city FC is doing it a club that is closer geographically
[00:12:00] to where I am located so there is a more identity also cricket lovers
[00:12:06] shaham karo yaar Mumbai Indians the fucking nonsense that Mumbai Indians is pulling out in
[00:12:11] the IPL Mumbai city FC is is is compensating for that on the football pitch so I feel like
[00:12:18] there is if there is one sport that you should follow east to Mumbai
[00:12:22] yeah exactly exactly right should we should we go over to the Premier League then
[00:12:27] shall we talk about
[00:12:30] both the club because see my club hasn't played my club is playing later tonight so
[00:12:36] but I'm happy with where your club is in general I have not been happy with where my club is for the
[00:12:40] last 10 years fair enough so it has become default setting for me Moog this used to be my
[00:12:49] default setting and now I'm not uh I'm not happy coming back home the hope is killing me
[00:12:55] I'm done I'm done I am now I think it's I'm faintly remembering the 2010 to 2015 16 Liverpool
[00:13:02] those five six years of supporting Liverpool where like it was banter like you know when banter was
[00:13:08] too pathetic come in that era I'm remembering those days those feelings you're in your banter
[00:13:15] era but no we are not beginning with Liverpool so you have some time you have some time before
[00:13:19] we get down to this again also when we do get to Liverpool we'll be talking about how they won
[00:13:22] like they didn't manage to win this weekend so that's a good thing but we started with Arsenal
[00:13:27] three Bournemouth zero Arsenal's title charge continues two games to go and Arsenal are sitting
[00:13:35] on top of the Premier League one point gap of course between them and Man City in second who
[00:13:39] of course have a game in hand three goals by Arsenal but I think the biggest talking
[00:13:45] point was the Bournemouth goal from Dominic Sarenke which was disallowed by VAR
[00:13:50] every time I feel like the referees in the Premier League could not get worse
[00:13:59] they just come at me and say bro two minutes
[00:14:07] what the fuck was that decision
[00:14:11] I mean this entire season honestly like there's a part of me that you know every time Liverpool
[00:14:20] have lost right the title whether by one point or by many points from the Stalina Champions League
[00:14:24] qualifications but I was very happy to blame it on the team and to dissect the season and at this
[00:14:28] but I think because of this season I'm just like I'm even even at the risk of sounding like
[00:14:34] oh blaming it on whatever a bad worksman blame this tool type even I don't mind just
[00:14:40] completely blaming the refereeing and being like hey actually my team was perfect and great
[00:14:45] and they should have been title winners or at least in the contention till the final week but I'm okay
[00:14:51] with it so yeah I think there was another big error which felt like very blatant error going in favour
[00:14:58] of Arsenal and at this point the only reason to support it is like Chalo it's not only Man City
[00:15:04] that is getting favours that seems like the only reason for me to think it's a good thing
[00:15:08] no I feel like at the end of the day you know there are so many narratives about oh the top
[00:15:14] six teams are being favoured and if Akash was here as our evident representative I'm sure he would come
[00:15:18] up with a list of incidents where it can be proven that the top six clubs are being favoured but I
[00:15:24] feel that in general refereeing just ati hai like there's no logic or there's no algorithm to
[00:15:32] it it's completely at random and unfortunately the problem is that the bottom teams have been
[00:15:40] coming on the end of it a lot more often than not but at the same time even the big teams get
[00:15:46] decisions that go against them and it's just generally very awful refereeing and you would
[00:15:53] expect that to get better with the with the introduction of VA with the introduction of
[00:15:57] replays and technology but for some how it's just gotten worse yeah and I think the problem is
[00:16:04] now I mean is what we've talked about right like you can take your time you're adding on the
[00:16:10] extra minutes and then why why if it's gonna be shit and it's shit and a slower game before it
[00:16:17] used to be okay I'm like okay before everything was shit but we got on with it because they're
[00:16:21] okay they don't have the tools to check or whatever now it's like you have the tools and you're
[00:16:26] giving us a slower game and no goal is really a goal yeah you know what I'm gonna say if there's
[00:16:31] like a three minutes lag between a goal and it being a goal goal yeah so um you think Anthony had it
[00:16:40] right all along with his multiple celebrations for one goal he's like a celebration preview
[00:16:45] yeah a celebration post we had a celebration fans kisser uh easy one for the family one for
[00:16:53] the family yeah did you by the way just speaking about that while we were on that topic
[00:16:58] you remember we spoke about this in the last episode where Anthony scored the goal uh and and he
[00:17:05] took out that sonic the hedgehog toy and that was one of his three celebrations for the goal right
[00:17:11] it turns out that the guy who gave him the sonic the hedgehog soft toy who was by the
[00:17:17] advertising hoardings was a personal photographer hired by anthony he wasn't a club photographer or
[00:17:25] a premier league photographer he was a personal photographer hired by anthony at the start of the
[00:17:30] season and he has been hired to take photos of anthony while he plays which is fine okay
[00:17:42] but that poor guy has been already got to that sonic the hedgehog fucking soft toy from game week one
[00:17:49] and you imagine three times he's entered every time he's entered old traffic he's had to show it
[00:17:55] to the security guard saying i've got my sonic the hedgehog toy that security guard also must be like
[00:18:01] dude you probably need to see a therapist if you're this attached to a soft toy bro your legs
[00:18:10] and at some point like you know at first when he's like oh it's a great gig right at first the
[00:18:14] first three weeks he's like it's a great gig i get to interstate him probably free i get paid for
[00:18:19] to do this shit and after a point he's like questioning he's like what am i doing in life
[00:18:24] like forget what anthony is doing he's like what am i doing in my life entering every game week
[00:18:29] across the country yeah i've become an urban legend among security guards
[00:18:35] that's what is in that and and they probably ripped open that soft toy to be like what is in
[00:18:39] this dude are you trying to like smuggle some drugs and he's like no i can't tell you what it's for
[00:18:45] this guy do you think do you think anthony gets a different sonic the hedgehog toy for every match
[00:18:49] you know because they get different jerseys every match right they don't wear the same jersey again
[00:18:53] whoop they just say we're going to get new jerseys every match so you think there was
[00:18:59] there's like 38 sonic the hedgehog toys just just kept in stockpile somewhere that
[00:19:07] i actually like to believe it's the same one he just had one and it's been going in the washing
[00:19:13] machine and coming out and it's a little like weathered and it's like and finally he gets to
[00:19:19] dispose it and like even his son is like i don't want this yeah but yes asin is still getting
[00:19:28] the the victory against bonn with coming back to that key issue on the other end city are going
[00:19:34] strong as well city basically just saying that if you think you can beat us to this title that's
[00:19:43] not going to happen because this is the time when even early harland is going to come back in form
[00:19:47] when the last few game weeks he was he was out of form but city beating wolves five one
[00:19:54] early harland scoring four off those five goals julian agarez came on and scored the fifth but
[00:20:01] this is time pass for gold i was so unhappy when he was substituted yeah he was and i think
[00:20:12] but i think that's because he felt he had more goals in him and that again shows the mark of a
[00:20:16] proper elite level athlete he met form man because core karne kaya like we used to see this
[00:20:21] with ronaldo right he he was so annoyed whenever he was taken off because he's like man if i'm
[00:20:28] on the pitch i can at least get some more goals and you know add to my tally and that's i think
[00:20:33] exactly what harland is also doing but on that moment you miss yeah we don't have strikers like
[00:20:42] that you don't have a striker scoring that regularly but i really have a team miss his regular
[00:20:47] yeah and my striker thinks hitting the net is a same as hitting the post yeah yeah for him
[00:20:55] everything is a crossbar challenge he's killing on a youtube video yeah no but on the on the harland
[00:21:04] topic him being subbed off and not not liking it obviously he was not happy but i guess considering
[00:21:10] he's coming back from injury i think godiola also wanted to manage his minutes but roy keen had
[00:21:16] something very interesting to say of course the context to this is that roy keen has been
[00:21:19] battling hurling harland for a while now uh he's of course we discussed this a few episodes ago
[00:21:25] where keen called him a league two level player when he was not informed and after this game harland
[00:21:32] was asked about roy keen's comment and he says i don't care about that man uh not that man is
[00:21:39] that i don't care about roy keen he just said i don't care about that man like man uh oh is that
[00:21:45] i come because i think i didn't hear it i read it so i totally spare it as a i don't care about
[00:21:51] that man in particular i thought oh wow it's he's addressing it i mean considering the history
[00:21:56] that roy keen has the harland bloodline yeah considering that history uh i wouldn't be
[00:22:05] surprised if harland actually meant that man in particular uh but keen again pointed out
[00:22:10] how he reacted to the substitution and he called him a spoiled brat he said again him going off like
[00:22:18] that having a go at his manager is acting like a spoiled brat now of course he's scoring and
[00:22:22] man city of winning so it doesn't get highlighted a lot whereas because live a pool aren't winning
[00:22:29] and sala wasn't scoring his stat with club gets highlighted but uh you know this is this is just
[00:22:36] spoiled behavior and it was really awkward in the sky sports studio because the host laughed at roy keen
[00:22:42] and told him yeah but he scored four goals so not all that's spoiled right and roy keen gave him
[00:22:49] the most threatening of glares and there was like a 30 second silence in the studio and swiftly
[00:22:58] moved on but it looked like roy keen had blood in his eyes like i wouldn't be surprised if
[00:23:04] next weekend the sky sports host has changed and we never hear from this guy again because he's going
[00:23:09] to be found in some forest somewhere in in in the uk i'm sorry but i don't know if roy keen ever had a
[00:23:17] public uh dispute with uh alex fuggison but there is no way in hell that roy keen of all people
[00:23:26] is calling any player who's arguing with his coach or showing a public display of anger or arrogance
[00:23:33] of brat because roy keen's entire thing was that and it was like it was that with wickley so it looked
[00:23:41] like a glorious thing but if on the off chance that there wasn't any victory you would have just
[00:23:46] you'd have looked like neil mopay so i'm sorry you cannot call sorry king of all people cannot
[00:23:50] call i'm i'm sorry i respect his career whatever all of that nonsense but there is no way he
[00:23:54] can call any player and if anything players are the nicest now in fact they're too nice
[00:23:59] so i don't know like i mean i'm all for trashing on city and cities players uh on the off chance that
[00:24:06] it brings them down even a little bit yeah maybe they went four one instead of five one but just
[00:24:11] roy keen of all people calling someone a brat was to a stadia ever i think the thing with
[00:24:16] roy keen also is no i think he's he's leaning into the stereotype that he's created for himself
[00:24:21] as a television pundit and uh it makes for good television i don't know if that's actually
[00:24:27] what he believes or what he doesn't but i feel like we're living in an age now where all these
[00:24:32] all these panelists like roy keen gary neville's karagur they're all playing caricatures of themselves
[00:24:38] because sure there are times when all of them act so obtuse and especially neville and karagur
[00:24:44] i feel like roy keen i still do feel that he has some interesting opinions but with karagur
[00:24:50] and neville they're so blinded by their love for their clubs that they they stop being a little
[00:24:56] objective sometimes which is i think it's what you said early on you know but i think your spot on
[00:25:02] that they figured out their television personalities yeah right they figured those out or they figured
[00:25:09] out what gets to views and what doesn't get the views or what gets the anger and then they escalate
[00:25:14] that like crazy like karagur will play the drunk almost like the drunk uncle and quite literally
[00:25:21] the drunk uncle going by his champions leech shenanigans statics gary neville just he just
[00:25:28] plays up his united uh staunch united supporter side too much even to the point where he looks a
[00:25:33] little stupid even supporting them yeah and i think a spot on and i think the only thing i can conclude
[00:25:38] from any of this is that amog you and i should figure out what our caricatures are and play
[00:25:44] should i play the idiot i play the idiot of work what is yours
[00:25:51] well i watch me play it watch me be dumber than this
[00:26:00] but no what that means is arsenal art watch me botox myself um but yeah sir no what that means
[00:26:05] is arsenal our top of the league with 83 points and 36 games late man city at 82 with a game in
[00:26:11] hand Liverpool in third place with 78 points so basically if man city get a victory or if arsenal
[00:26:18] get a draw then that is it for Liverpool like they are then officially and mathematically out of the
[00:26:24] title race amog i was out at crystal palace like i don't even think there's even one Liverpool
[00:26:32] fan who's like hey please please please god one is still one chance they're calculating there is
[00:26:37] unless that ma'am unless it's some rama rujam reincarnated level Liverpool fan there is not
[00:26:43] a some maths freak who's calculating permutation combination there is not one single single Liverpool
[00:26:49] fan who's like hey man we could still win this thing like i think there's no need i think it's
[00:26:55] pretty much between city and arsenal yeah and honestly i was kind of hoping arsenal win it
[00:27:01] but after interacting with a few arsenal fans i'm like you know what city take it we'll forget
[00:27:05] it the next morning you know and we can come back that see that's that's and i get it and i totally
[00:27:12] get why for the last couple of years every other non-liverpool fan was supporting city because
[00:27:20] just a thought of arsenal fans winning and then them being arrogant oh no it wasn't just arsenal
[00:27:25] fans it was also Liverpool fans just the thought of Liverpool fans winning and then being arrogant
[00:27:30] that's something i get it now that i was like i'm a football purist i will want
[00:27:35] how will want good football to win and now i'm now suddenly that my team's out of my
[00:27:40] f***ing good i think let them win match so i started off wanting city to win because
[00:27:45] of the exact thing that you said that haan take a city win one more title nobody will give a
[00:27:49] f*** because anyway they barely have fans and uh what's the worse that'll happen they'll
[00:27:54] have another parade in Manchester where three people will turn up and nothing else will come
[00:28:00] off it like it is just routine but if Arsenal in the league or have Liverpool in the league then we'll
[00:28:05] never hear hear the end of it but that's Liverpool won't give city i haven't stopped talking
[00:28:12] sh** since then exactly exactly but considering that a league title this season will give man city
[00:28:21] a record of of of winning four titles in a row i'm a little more open to arsenal winning it i'm like
[00:28:30] chalnai a little change fresh air i feel like arsenal fans are still a little more tolerable
[00:28:36] than Liverpool fans so why not give them a go that's terrible oh my god i'm over i don't
[00:28:42] think you've understood what you've said you will rule these words why would i rule these
[00:28:46] words i don't think you're fully i don't think you're fully prepared for how
[00:28:57] incredibly annoying arsul fans are gonna get they pretend like they were here all along oh my
[00:29:02] god trust me it's gonna be atrocious it is going but yeah let's see i mean it's all in cardiola's
[00:29:07] hands yeah it is and we'll think about that while we take a break on the other side we're going
[00:29:13] to talk about chelsea's five nil victory over west ham clops ranks about fixture congestion
[00:29:20] and some spurs fans who are calling for post-ecog lute to be sacked see you on the other side
[00:29:31] welcome back to the corner flag everybody and as always we begin the second half with your
[00:29:36] questions questions questions with the corner flag dude answers also huh all right we have
[00:29:50] first question from harnish natwani who says miraculously if man city drop points an arsul
[00:29:58] win will city be called bottlers or not yeah yeah i think it would be fair to call them bottlers
[00:30:08] i feel like but what have the bottle they've barely been on the top of the league they've bottled
[00:30:14] no but you still expect man city to win the league right because they are such a
[00:30:19] how it's not it's not bottling if you're not on top of the league and it's only a bottling like
[00:30:24] arsul did it last year live a bullet down a countless number of times no but it is it's a
[00:30:29] bottling when you're on top and you have a considerable lead and then you let it go
[00:30:33] you're also i think they've been on top of the league for three days or something you're
[00:30:36] also forgetting that right now the fact that arsul are on top of the league doesn't mean
[00:30:40] anything because cities still have a game in hand so i am still considering city to be on top of the
[00:30:45] league because it is very obvious that they're going to win that game and now i feel like they'll
[00:30:50] still be called bottlers because you expect man city to win every trophy that they're in
[00:30:56] and they proved that last season because up until last season you were like actually the
[00:31:00] premier league is always going to be cities they are dominant in the premier league but
[00:31:04] champions league anybody can win you know it was one of those things but they went and they
[00:31:09] won the treble also so i feel like they have reached that point in their history right now
[00:31:14] where currently they are the best team in your if not the world so you expect them to win every
[00:31:21] trophy that they are challenging for especially the premier league which is their bread and
[00:31:26] butter they won it three times in a row previously they're in a fantastic position to win it
[00:31:31] this time around so if by some miracle as harish natwani said the results don't go their way
[00:31:38] and city happened to lose the title i would 100% call them bottlers
[00:31:45] no i don't think city have bottled anything um i think the two teams that would have bottled
[00:31:50] our Liverpool and Arsenal who have they have always maintained the two clown that was there
[00:31:53] only but it's a it's a top three of bottleers only okay top three of bottleers but i don't
[00:31:59] think city you can say city bottle this one uh especially considering also never playing
[00:32:02] shit football at the start or shitter football then they usually used to one can argue but one
[00:32:07] can argue that that is a step in the direction of said bottling you know i'm but i've clear my
[00:32:14] definition of bottling is if you're on top of the league and you're in a dominant position
[00:32:18] and you let that go i agree in during i think that is a classic definition of the term bottling
[00:32:25] but here's where i differ from your opinion which is that in the case of a team like
[00:32:31] Liverpool or Arsenal or Huckett even Spurs you say that they are bottlers because they've put
[00:32:37] themselves in a fantastic position all season around and then towards the end
[00:32:42] okay but jatir right and that is a proper definition of a bottle job but i feel like
[00:32:48] certain different rules apply to city much like they do in terms of 100 and fire 15 charges
[00:32:55] but uh yeah drop a bomb but certain certain different rules apply to city in the sense that
[00:33:02] from day one when they start playing premier league you expect them to win even the betting
[00:33:07] wands are in their favor they are huge favorites every season to win the premier league so if they're
[00:33:12] not going to win the premier league it is i feel still a bottle job all right uh we go to the next
[00:33:22] question or statement from ashwin underscore 040 who says only one more home game for clop
[00:33:30] it's gonna be so hard not to cry and i completely get it and it's incredible uh let me share a very
[00:33:38] personal anecdote from last night i was complaining to my girlfriend about how i'm gonna feel
[00:33:44] about this and she just said listen talk to amog about this
[00:34:06] uh even my wife has the same things to say when i talk to her about football she just looks at me
[00:34:10] confused she's just nodding her head like uh huh you know like the penguins from madagascar just saying
[00:34:14] just smile and wave boys that's the strategy that my wife tends to use when i talk to her about
[00:34:20] football and she says listen you have a podcast where you talk about right like all the tools are
[00:34:26] there for you to make my career that your laptop which is too light swipes use
[00:34:31] there's no editing at that you every week religiously podcast episode upload
[00:34:37] where you speak about these things you have listeners who are very nice who listen to you every week as
[00:34:42] well why the fuck are you saying this to me why why are you doing this twice just get it out all
[00:34:50] all out of the way when you record on monday night so yeah i feel like uh you're my wife are going
[00:34:55] to be very very good friends and uh there's the two of us are fucked sadly you and i are not
[00:35:03] we're gonna fight we're gonna fight over Liverpool and just united they were the same jersey they
[00:35:09] have very similar histories he was a city's of acuos but you and i will kill each other for it
[00:35:14] all right and we have the last question of this episode which is noob clicks asks us
[00:35:22] top five kids in europe this season question mark and i have to do that first i say noob clicks
[00:35:28] i don't care man Liverpool one Liverpool two Liverpool three let's go close up my top five
[00:35:35] because i'll just repeat the same okay so i'm gonna be a little more professional about this in
[00:35:39] mokash's because a listener has oh my oh my god okay fine i'll also answer the listener has written
[00:35:44] in and no clicks is is a regular question asker from our from our bank of listeners so i'm gonna
[00:35:53] be a little more professional about this i if you're talking about this season isn't the season
[00:35:57] that's about to end um the usual is man like in europe so exactly in exactly so i feel like iax
[00:36:06] have some yeah i don't know that i i do really like the bulushia dotman kits also
[00:36:14] i think they are really really cool in the premier league i think my favorite kit
[00:36:24] i want to go with spurs and man united for my premier league picks and i feel like this season
[00:36:32] after a very long time united finally had a decent home kit and especially they're awake not
[00:36:38] not they're awake it sorry their third kit which is the white kit looks beautiful so really really
[00:36:45] well done by adidas for finally giving man united a decent kit design but while you're at it buy
[00:36:52] and skit for next season has been revealed and it looks beautiful full right amazing amazing
[00:37:02] i know it's a weird shout but i think i don't know i think it's a tlético i'm pretty sure it's
[00:37:07] a tlético which has a new kit with a little bit of like red splint on the white almost looks like
[00:37:12] blood and i just like that i like it because it also like i feel like it's a dmg i like that i
[00:37:19] could imagine that there are 11 bird rows who happen to be playing football so i like that i think
[00:37:23] that's a good shout for me but i i like the dotman pick because i think in a sea of reds and whites
[00:37:28] and reds whites and blues i like i always like the yellows only good absolutely um do we have
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[00:37:59] jelsie five west ham nil what a f***ing buy boner team jelsie is
[00:38:05] what love man oh i am just however they sneaked up i think about the seventh now in like
[00:38:14] they were pretty much bottom half uh man i'm actually really worried now that they figured out how to score
[00:38:18] goals that they're going to be really good next season they probably are going to be really good
[00:38:23] next season for sure uh if they stick with pochettino because there are also rumors linking them to a
[00:38:29] return for con te which would just be ridiculous by them but uh in which case i say yeah please
[00:38:36] go ahead do it uh no but they are seven they are 54 points two points away from new castle and
[00:38:44] uh two points yeah two points away from new castle and six points away from tottenham in fifth so yeah
[00:38:52] if things go according to plan they could actually hit your up the worst part is united are now in
[00:38:56] eighth we are level on points with jelsie although with a game in hand which is again tonight against
[00:39:02] crystal palace which we are more than likely going to lose but we'll get to that later fantastic
[00:39:08] showing by by by jelsie and and col Palmer again is in the form of his life from all the 20 000 signings
[00:39:16] that they made uh since tot bolly joined i think col Palmer has been their best signing yeah and
[00:39:24] also i don't know if you saw i think uh i mean speaking of west ham i think david moey's is uh
[00:39:32] surely sacked i think david louis confirmed for west ham uh i think he completely i i don't know
[00:39:40] west ham was such an exciting team and i think even right now they're like when you have a team of
[00:39:44] bowlin and kudos and everybody you don't expect them to perform so badly and they just got picked
[00:39:50] under i think one of the goals i think was the fourth goal where like one one long ball just
[00:39:56] cleared the entire team and west ham had no answer so the end of david moey's at um
[00:40:03] i at west ham where do you think he's gonna pop up again no no no i don't know what i'm
[00:40:09] i'm like i'm like what is it for any club he's happy with gary o'neill's i don't think they'll
[00:40:13] they'll sack gary o'neill for for david moey's but i think that david moey's will get
[00:40:17] david moey will get a premier league job yeah you'll get a club like uh i don't know less
[00:40:22] earth obviously have a great manager in mareska uh ip switch who have also been promoted by the
[00:40:28] way under kiran mackenna which is fantastic ex united assistant coach so i'm going to look
[00:40:32] out for ip switch next season as well they're doing really well but uh yeah you'll get you'll get a
[00:40:37] premier league a middling premier league job honestly if things don't work out with daish
[00:40:43] david moey's returns to evitin why the f**k not and yeah just to the sake of narrative and just to
[00:40:48] get those extra 10 points you know like a 10 point boost or no manager's return which
[00:40:54] probably will do wonders for a club that's obviously david moey's now comes if if he
[00:40:59] were to go back to evitin he goes back to evitin with a lot more experience in terms of having
[00:41:02] managed and f**ked up at man united but still seven months of experience at a club of that level
[00:41:09] akon west ham managing real in spain with real sosia dad so that's foreign experience as well
[00:41:15] yes akon a club like west ham on a europea league run uh won them the conference league trophy
[00:41:21] so he's he's also become a more experienced manager a more uh a different manager from
[00:41:28] from the david moey's that managed evitin back in the day so might be interesting for that if not
[00:41:33] if not that then i mean i mean i would just love it just for the for the for the fields yeah
[00:41:41] for who doesn't like good but do you think lopate is the perfect choice for uh for west ham now
[00:41:48] i think lopate is like i was very surprised i i felt like he would probably as a real mudrid
[00:41:56] manager at so uh sorry i know but i think he was a real mudrid manager right for very for a year
[00:42:03] or something and manage spain i know i expected him to be like a like more ambitious the the wools
[00:42:09] gig but i feel like it's also come to a point where you have certain managers who've got that
[00:42:14] experience who are not elite level coaches like an enchilotti or a pep guardiola or even a clock
[00:42:22] and those positions are filled up like think about the big clubs they're like peps not
[00:42:28] leaving mancity so that job is not available i don't think anybody would take lopate and
[00:42:34] live a pool after clock i don't think you as a live a pool fan will go for a lot of taggy
[00:42:38] because even you know how we were going for slot slot still gives you a lot uh newer ideas in terms
[00:42:45] of freshness in terms of him not being known in the premier league is a is a is a slightly
[00:42:53] better risk to take for a club like live a pool and he's done fantastic at at final to the season so
[00:43:01] i think that's a that's an interesting choice but it is that murinio past his prime level
[00:43:06] where ha you've got the big jobs but you're realistically never going to get those big jobs
[00:43:12] again even if they were available and why not with that experience why not take a club like
[00:43:20] west ham and see how you can develop that club you know mold the team in the image of yourself
[00:43:25] and and see if you can do another cup run see if you can you can go higher up the table and
[00:43:29] maybe qualify for the for the champions league because we're seeing that happen we're seeing
[00:43:34] that happen billar in the contention new castle have been in the champions league this season so
[00:43:39] teams like that are challenging for the top four in the premier league so why not but i
[00:43:47] i think two things right i think the premier league is actually pretty crowded uh so he might
[00:43:53] have actually been like and and being british press is a terrifyingly mad place especially
[00:44:01] for foreign managers and you need someone like either you need someone you're someone super successful
[00:44:08] like a good system trophy winner like gardiola or a clop who can give it back or a focus and who
[00:44:15] can do both to sort of but it's a good thing i think might need time like i do think uh west
[00:44:21] ham is still a very unfriendly place for a manager it's not uh i was sort of i mean for
[00:44:28] i think it's great for west ham that they have someone who's won the europea league
[00:44:30] who's coming and winning managing them someone who's i think he's won the laly guy's a player i don't
[00:44:34] think he wanted as a coach but i think he wanted as a player if i'm not wrong uh with raul madrid only
[00:44:39] so i think maybe he could have gone to another club in spain or france or germany uh but yeah
[00:44:45] good for him i mean good for the club good for west ham for getting a good nice manager but i
[00:44:49] would say it's not a good sign good enough signing for him i think he can do
[00:44:54] fantastically well at west ham because west ham are now also learning to back their managers
[00:44:59] their finances are looking a little better and i think it's an exciting time to be a west ham fan
[00:45:04] as our mutual friend kavishas 3 is so uh you know we'll see how that goes um right
[00:45:11] Liverpool four spurs two is the title dream still alive mukesh
[00:45:17] dream for third place is all see we finished we got back into champions league football and
[00:45:24] we have a cup really it's a successful season what could what more could help have done a mogue
[00:45:30] how can i guess one but no uh i mean even if your title dreams are are over i feel like
[00:45:38] uh spurs is top four dreams are also over because they are now seven points away from top four
[00:45:44] with a game in hand and realistically speaking i don't think with the way they've been playing
[00:45:48] in the last few games i don't think they are going to be able to uh to come back from that and
[00:45:54] and leave frog will are into that into that fourth place but uh lots has been happening we first
[00:46:00] talk about the Liverpool side of things right because uh as soon as i take mohsala out of my
[00:46:05] fbl the f**ker scores a goal and gets an assist and to add to that i swapped him in for bruno
[00:46:14] finandes i got bruno finandes into the fbl even though i don't get united players in and finandes
[00:46:20] even though he was in injury risk i said no yeah he barely misses matches we'll get him in it's
[00:46:25] crystal palace he's the most informed player right now he'll definitely be on the end of a goal
[00:46:31] at least penalty penalty the reports are coming in that later tonight finandes is not in the squad
[00:46:37] because of his injury so i am just so annoyed with this f**king game so i'm okay it is you you are
[00:46:46] the reason that uh leppipool have fell off this type of title race pretty much that's how
[00:46:53] i jinx the teams i get their players into fbl and they f**k up their form uh but no salla
[00:46:58] has now become the first player in the premier league history to score 10 plus goals and 10 plus
[00:47:03] assists in three consecutive seasons see i think i thought second right after runy no he's he's
[00:47:11] matched runy's award uh record as well i think runy's record was for five okay in five season
[00:47:19] but i don't think it was consecutive so uh so yeah well done well done salla just i think this
[00:47:24] is also the mosa last end of tour and what a way for him to go oh really no no i don't think so i think
[00:47:30] mosa last definitely still he's not going to be intimidated by that south yeah because they want
[00:47:37] to i don't think so i think i know i know they want him but i think he's probably earning about a
[00:47:42] million a week at live up or i know he cannot earn way more but i think he probably feels like
[00:47:47] he's not only wants to play for a million a week dude no footballer no no no i'm saying in broadly
[00:47:54] i know i know what i'm saying if you just average it out all of his earnings from elsewhere etc ads
[00:47:58] bad i'm sorry so he's earning about 350 a week i know that's how that's the wage that live up
[00:48:02] who's paying i'm sorry i don't everything anyway what i'm gonna say is i think because they've
[00:48:07] qualified for the champions league i think he wants to give the champions league one more try
[00:48:11] i think realistically next season um time league is out of the picture i don't think honest lot
[00:48:17] is so good that he can oust uh gardyola and challenge uh arsenal and get whoever the new challenges
[00:48:25] which could be Chelsea or united or whatever so i think apparently he's out of the picture i think
[00:48:29] evidence understand but i think there's a good chance like in classic live up pool fashion
[00:48:33] that if this squad and because are already slot baller or in a ball is also just
[00:48:39] high press high attacking football like it's sort of like the early yogan clop
[00:48:44] sort of football in which you just score many goals and you just play to outscore the team
[00:48:48] outscore your opponent which probably works in cup games i think he wants to give that
[00:48:53] champions league one more shot which i think is a very good thing and i think he should
[00:48:57] because if not 200 maybe the next season after he gets 100 million right so i don't think
[00:49:04] i do think he's staying all right uh speaking of clop though clop had a bit of a rank at
[00:49:10] british broadcast in t sports you know firstly it's though this this clops randy rona about
[00:49:17] oh 12 to 12 p.m kickoff and all is just a little bit more and it was pointed out because
[00:49:22] are you crazy everyone's realizing that now just shut up how can you say now every club
[00:49:27] is complaining about that literally every other club has realized what he's saying is correct
[00:49:32] and every club is now making the same point that he was making it's just that back then
[00:49:36] he was alone now the voice are louder because other people are talking just relax with his head
[00:49:40] you can just be thankful that someone brought it up at a time when no one was really talking about it
[00:49:44] it honestly like again even after live up who lost against everton vorgil van dyke was talking
[00:49:50] about 12 30 p.m kickoffs and all it like it just lost a dabby dude against an everton team
[00:49:56] that might go into administration like really amu gliverpool have played the most number of
[00:50:01] 12 30 games it's actually an issue it's actually a legit issue that is not only is it fixture congestion
[00:50:09] but it's also crowding up the fixtures when you can actually easily afford it more time
[00:50:13] it really isn't a big delay it's a very legit issue brought on and i'm not saying live up
[00:50:17] who didn't play shamefully against everton those are two separate things but i think i'm just so
[00:50:22] happy clop is just now like what do you do to let card me he said i am going away i'm going away
[00:50:31] right so i really think on his last game he's got a punch of a king referee or something
[00:50:37] around the nose before it goes no but so he basically said that tnt sports were the reason why
[00:50:42] all these fixture congestion are happening and he told tnt sports that you can take me off
[00:50:50] your subscribers list tnt sports have had a lovely take down of this because they tweeted
[00:50:57] a new punditry application and with durian clop's name on it because he said you know i'm
[00:51:04] on my time off from management i'd be happy to work as a pundit and it says has won the premier
[00:51:11] league check has won the champion league check is multi lingual check willing to work at 12 30 p.m
[00:51:17] on saturdays and there's no check so very nicely done by tnt clop also mentioned in his rant
[00:51:23] that amnesty international should look into this because this is a crime which is the fixture
[00:51:29] scheduling and amnesty international tweeted to him saying sorry you're gonna be a little busy at the
[00:51:34] moment don't think we can in the meantime do donate to us though thanks sweet very funny
[00:51:43] very funny stuff very funny stuff also funny is darwin noon has not just because he's darwin
[00:51:49] noon as any can't score a goal but did you see that he has deleted everything related to live
[00:51:54] pool from his instagram apart from his profile picture but every other piece of content that
[00:51:59] had him in the live pool shirt is now mysteriously gone there's only photos of him playing for
[00:52:03] benfica in europe why is he on his way out yes i think it's as clear as possible that
[00:52:11] he's on his way out although the description still says um live pool player he's like
[00:52:17] we'll also live pool fc and all of that and i don't know if that's so it could be the the
[00:52:22] optimistic if you're a fan of newness uh the optimistic thing is okay maybe he's just deleted
[00:52:27] the post because he just wants the comments to stop because he's also restricted comments and everything
[00:52:32] uh because otherwise he really wanted to make a statement he would have deleted it from his
[00:52:36] profile also but yeah the bad thing and the he's probably on his way out there is also
[00:52:41] interest from basalona like a real interest so i mean i mean honestly so here's what i
[00:52:47] say right and that's what i have to say i think obviously abuse and threats is horrible and that's
[00:52:54] just the worst part of any fandom and so our worst part of any live pool like even live
[00:52:59] pool is no exception so it's the worst right like that's a baseline but i don't think the criticism
[00:53:03] that's going towards him is unfair yeah in any sense yeah if you if you have the worst conversion
[00:53:09] ratio in uh in europe in the top five leagues and i think chris would have outscored him in the
[00:53:16] premier league and i think and i know if you remove his like you know like darwin's newness's
[00:53:22] goals against like teams of like burnley burnley burnley uh chef field all of that he probably has
[00:53:28] five goals six goals and that's he's the most expensive player in live pool history so i don't
[00:53:34] think the criticism is unfair and i think it is like you know i don't think the criticism
[00:53:38] unfair so i do feel like he's reacted childishly almost to this but i i get it like if you're
[00:53:44] if the threats are affecting you it should be acceptable etc uh pretty um but i do think he's
[00:53:51] honestly you see that ad i think it was an ad that he did where he was giving a team talk to his
[00:53:55] teammates in spanish and andy robertson was there just saying i don't know what you said but that
[00:54:00] was fucking amazing let's go you seen that ad yeah yeah when like he's speaking in spanish
[00:54:09] or whatever and he's like fantastic stuff fantastic stuff on the other hand though a lot of spurz
[00:54:14] fans are surprisingly asking for ang pos to call you to be sacked and they're saying things like he
[00:54:20] doesn't know what he's doing he's playing the same style over and over again uh he's being found out
[00:54:27] every week it has to stop he's like a petulant child do you agree with this don't you think that
[00:54:34] ang ball is not really working out for spurs no no i don't think uh that's true at all i'm a
[00:54:41] big fan of ang ball even though he has got results against river pools i mean the first game whatever
[00:54:47] but i do think ang balls working you'd be really stupid to not like ang walley he is very much
[00:54:51] like early flop he's one of the few solutions you have when everyone's going defensive he's going
[00:54:55] on the attack he's not afraid to concede goals because he believes his team can score goals and
[00:55:02] you would be really really silly to not back him right now because keep ang and get it
[00:55:11] of some players i think clive wood hasn't had a goal whatever some in some thousand years i would
[00:55:15] gave him the right players not clever this uh sorry sorry sorry there's one player i forgot
[00:55:21] um in his african one of those top three top four uh was it kuliecki not sure who's not scored
[00:55:29] a goal in a while any of these players please just get rid of them they're very very easily
[00:55:34] ruining what ang ball which can be very exciting and i love looking at ang ball no it's it's
[00:55:38] yeah i completely agree it should it should not even be a topic of discussion since only his first
[00:55:42] season at least give him one more so you know i feel like they can really build on this and you are
[00:55:50] going to suffer some really bad defeats on the way but as long as you stick with the manager
[00:55:56] i think the results will turn around and i feel like spurs are in the storm and also like honestly
[00:56:00] since uh since they they let go of potchettino yeah and honestly what is the answer so
[00:56:08] top three spots were anyway taken before the season began you knew city and asa were going to be right
[00:56:12] on top and you knew one of liveapool liveapool chelsea will take the third spot right depending on how
[00:56:18] it played out what you come in and he's he's still in contention with the fourth spot maybe it was
[00:56:22] just a game or two that went this way that way you're playing the you're playing the best
[00:56:26] football you've played i don't know since potchettino was there in 18 19 you really can't be unhappy
[00:56:31] with ang man absolutely right on that note it is time to end uh don't really want to talk about
[00:56:36] united versus palace because like i said finandas is let's go watch a prediction tell me what your
[00:56:41] prediction uh palace to win two one palace to win two one i'm oh come on they're not your bogey
[00:56:49] team no they are they are 100 percent i do think it's a hundred percent i've seen crystal palace
[00:56:53] beat united at home i was at old trafford and crystal palace beat united at home they are a
[00:56:57] full on oh yeah i remember you really full on bogey team so nice okay i hope i hope i hope united
[00:57:03] lose and then they take this fire to go and beat us next week no chance will be will be defeat here
[00:57:10] there's no chance i'm a very realistic man there is no chance um but yes we shall end this episode on
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