"Godzilla Minus One"
Next Best Picture PodcastFebruary 06, 202400:24:33

"Godzilla Minus One"

As we attempt to catch up with all of the Oscar-nominated films, one that escaped our regular podcast schedule upon its theatrical release here in the U.S. was Takashi Yamazaki's critically acclaimed "Godzilla Minus One" starring Ryunosuke Kamiki, Minami Hamabe, Munetaka Aoki, Hidetaka Yoshioka, Sakura Ando, Yuki Yamada & Kuranosuke Sasaki. With many calling it the best Godzilla film ever made, the Japanese film has been an international success with crossover appeal and has received an Academy Award nomination for Best Visual Effects. What did we think of the story, the characters and performances, the action sequences and visual effects, and, of course, how one of cinema's most iconic figures was presented to a modern-day audience? Tune in as I'm joined by Lauren LaMagnaDan BayerTom O'Brien, and returning guest Kevin Lee to discuss these points and more in our SPOILER-FILLED review! Thank you for all your support, and enjoy!


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[01:41.980 --> 01:46.980] Post-war Japan is at its lowest point when a new crisis emerges in the form of a giant [01:46.980 --> 01:51.980] monster baptized in the horrific power of the atomic bomb. [01:51.980 --> 01:54.980] The film is starring. [01:55.980 --> 01:57.980] Rianazuke Kameke. [01:57.980 --> 01:58.980] Minami Hamabe. [01:58.980 --> 02:00.980] Wenetaka Aoki. [02:00.980 --> 02:02.980] Hideo Taka Yoshioka. [02:02.980 --> 02:04.980] Sakuro Ando. [02:04.980 --> 02:06.980] Yuki Yamada. [02:06.980 --> 02:09.980] And Kuran Osuki Sasaki. [02:09.980 --> 02:13.980] It is written and directed by Takashi Yamazaki. [02:13.980 --> 02:18.980] And here to join me today for this podcast review, I have Lauren LaMagna. [02:18.980 --> 02:19.980] Hello. [02:19.980 --> 02:20.980] Dan Bear. [02:20.980 --> 02:22.980] Roar. [02:23.980 --> 02:25.980] Tom O'Brien. [02:25.980 --> 02:26.980] Hi everybody. [02:26.980 --> 02:30.980] And joining us here as a guest, welcome back to the show. [02:30.980 --> 02:33.980] It has been too long, Kevin Lee. [02:33.980 --> 02:34.980] Hi. [02:34.980 --> 02:37.980] So Godzilla minus one. [02:37.980 --> 02:42.980] We are reviewing this a little later because we did not get a chance to review it when it [02:42.980 --> 02:46.980] first released theatrically here in the US. [02:46.980 --> 02:51.980] It has recently been re-released in a black and white version and has been nominated for an [02:51.980 --> 02:54.980] Academy Award for Best Visual Effects. [02:54.980 --> 02:59.980] So as we try to catch off with certain Oscar nominees that we did not get a chance to review [02:59.980 --> 03:03.980] on the podcast, this is one that was very high in demand from our listeners. [03:03.980 --> 03:08.980] So we are very, very happy to now give it its due and talk about it because I do think it [03:08.980 --> 03:18.980] has been a very significant landmark film in many ways, not just for international cinema, [03:18.980 --> 03:21.980] but also just for Japanese cinema for this franchise. [03:21.980 --> 03:26.980] There's a lot of firsts and a lot of ground that's being broken here by this movie. [03:26.980 --> 03:33.420] And it's also really well beloved amongst the fans and it's done, I think, just exceedingly [03:33.420 --> 03:35.740] past all expectations here. [03:35.740 --> 03:45.300] So as we get into it, it's important to note that this is the 33rd film, Godzilla film [03:45.300 --> 03:53.300] from Toho, the 37th film in the Godzilla franchise overall, and it is one that I think [03:53.300 --> 03:59.300] at this point in time, we see Godzilla featured in Warner Brothers movies with King Kong now [03:59.300 --> 04:02.300] or on an Apple TV streaming show. [04:02.300 --> 04:09.300] We see Gareth Edwards bring in the character back a couple of years ago to unite US audiences. [04:09.300 --> 04:14.300] But overseas, Godzilla has always had a life of his own. [04:14.300 --> 04:20.300] And it's that rare crossover film that you hope to see happen at least once a year, [04:20.300 --> 04:23.300] but I think we're starting to see it happen more and more now. [04:23.300 --> 04:29.300] It reminds me a lot of the breakout success of RRR last year, where that had international [04:29.300 --> 04:32.300] to US crossover appeal. [04:32.300 --> 04:38.300] So looking at the success of this movie, why it is resonating, how it fits within the Godzilla [04:38.300 --> 04:40.300] canon overall. [04:40.300 --> 04:43.300] I want to start off first with our guest here, Kevin. [04:43.300 --> 04:47.300] What did you think of this movie in terms of just overall general thoughts? [04:47.300 --> 04:52.300] Do you have any kind of pre-existing relationship with Godzilla as a franchise? [04:52.300 --> 04:56.300] I know there's a lot of films, obviously, to get to. [04:56.300 --> 05:03.300] Unless if you have like that big giant criterion box set of all the movies, but yeah, lay it [05:03.300 --> 05:04.300] on us. [05:04.300 --> 05:05.300] What did you think of this? [05:05.300 --> 05:11.300] Yeah, well, first of all, I have not seen all 37 Godzilla films. [05:11.300 --> 05:14.300] I've seen plenty of them. [05:14.300 --> 05:22.300] And this is a very fascinating franchise to me, because the way Godzilla started, it's like [05:22.300 --> 05:30.300] this devastating cautionary tale about mankind's tendency to destroy itself. [05:30.300 --> 05:34.300] And it's like it's a warning, the original. [05:34.300 --> 05:40.300] And it's so fascinating to see how this character evolves over time, how he goes from this [05:40.300 --> 05:51.300] metaphor of atomic warfare to something like Japan's mascot or tourism ambassador. [05:51.300 --> 06:00.300] And our culture and how we consume Godzilla content and how we see him has really, really [06:00.300 --> 06:01.300] changed over time. [06:01.300 --> 06:07.300] Now he's like a character who we root for, and we like to watch these monster rumbles and [06:07.300 --> 06:12.300] like see some kind of creative enemy for him to go up against, right? [06:12.300 --> 06:18.300] And every once in a while, Toho would go back to the beginning, go back to its roots. [06:18.300 --> 06:22.300] And Godzilla Minus 1 is kind of like that. [06:22.300 --> 06:25.300] It's back to these simple roots. [06:25.300 --> 06:31.300] And they make a really smart decision in having the story take place, like right at the end [06:31.300 --> 06:36.300] of World War II, as it follows these Japanese veterans and citizens, like trying to [06:36.300 --> 06:38.300] recover from the war and trying to move on. [06:38.300 --> 06:44.300] And I think that was a very smart choice to really help the audiences get back to the [06:44.300 --> 06:48.300] mind setting of like how the 1954 original film felt. [06:48.300 --> 06:51.300] And at the same time, it still feels modern. [06:51.300 --> 06:56.300] You know, the visual effects, they're stunning at times, the sequences are brilliant. [06:56.300 --> 07:02.300] And most Godzilla movies, they struggle a lot with human characters, but this time I think [07:02.300 --> 07:08.300] they did a really incredible job in creating human characters for you to care about. [07:08.300 --> 07:13.300] Like you care about their well-being more than just caring about them surviving [07:13.300 --> 07:14.300] Godzilla's attack. [07:14.300 --> 07:17.300] Like you want them to be okay. [07:17.300 --> 07:23.300] You want them to make it through this and have like a better tomorrow. [07:23.300 --> 07:26.300] And I think that's what made the film surprisingly emotional. [07:26.300 --> 07:31.300] And I think that's why audiences in Japan and here in the US internationally have [07:31.300 --> 07:32.300] connected with it. [07:32.300 --> 07:33.300] Yep. [07:33.300 --> 07:34.300] I completely agree. [07:34.300 --> 07:40.300] Story and character will traditionally win out the day over large-scale destruction [07:40.300 --> 07:41.300] and visual effects. [07:41.300 --> 07:44.300] Although, sometimes we appreciate that as well. [07:44.300 --> 07:46.300] Lauren LaMagna, how about you? [07:46.300 --> 07:48.300] What did you think of Godzilla-1? [07:48.300 --> 07:52.300] So growing up, I was always aware of Godzilla. [07:52.300 --> 07:53.300] I knew who he was. [07:53.300 --> 07:55.300] I knew what he represented. [07:55.300 --> 07:58.300] I knew his origin and all of that. [07:59.300 --> 08:03.300] But I didn't really, I don't have a nostalgic tie with him. [08:03.300 --> 08:06.300] I didn't really consume most of his media. [08:06.300 --> 08:08.300] I just knew of the character itself. [08:08.300 --> 08:11.300] So it's not that I'm unfamiliar with the character. [08:11.300 --> 08:17.300] I just don't really have a relationship with him, which is really fun for me to go into [08:17.300 --> 08:18.300] this film. [08:18.300 --> 08:23.300] That's just a pure Godzilla film and to really experience a hundred percent [08:23.300 --> 08:25.300] Godzilla film for the first time. [08:25.300 --> 08:27.300] So that was really fun for me. [08:27.300 --> 08:31.300] And I think this is a really interesting and also really fun film. [08:31.300 --> 08:37.300] As Kevin said, I love that they went right back to a media post-war in Japan and we [08:37.300 --> 08:42.300] really get to see those themes of what Godzilla represents in real time. [08:42.300 --> 08:48.300] And I love how you're also seeing modern filmmakers and modern artists kind of reflect on that [08:48.300 --> 08:49.300] as well. [08:49.300 --> 08:53.300] It's their modern storytellers, but they're going back into the original timeline of where [08:53.300 --> 08:55.300] this character kind of came about. [08:56.300 --> 08:59.300] But I also think that it's a very entertaining movie. [08:59.300 --> 09:02.300] As Kevin said, you really do care about the characters. [09:02.300 --> 09:08.300] I think the visual effects and the creation of Godzilla himself are very impressive, [09:08.300 --> 09:09.300] very scary. [09:09.300 --> 09:14.300] You care about the characters, but you also know that shit's going to go down when he gets [09:14.300 --> 09:21.300] there, which makes it a very impactful watch where you are invested and interested and [09:21.300 --> 09:29.300] also looking into the dynamics of intergenerational Japanese veterans of how they value war [09:29.300 --> 09:32.300] and what they think matters. [09:32.300 --> 09:36.300] And that was an interesting additional layer too. [09:36.300 --> 09:38.300] So I overall think it's a smart film. [09:38.300 --> 09:41.300] I also think it's entertaining and it's also heartfelt. [09:41.300 --> 09:44.300] So I really do recommend it and I can't wait to talk about it. [09:44.300 --> 09:45.300] All right. [09:45.300 --> 09:47.300] Tom O'Brien, on to you. [09:48.300 --> 09:53.300] Well, Matt, if somebody had told me that among the best parts of Godzilla movie would [09:53.300 --> 09:58.300] be the scenes without Godzilla in it, I would say you were nuts. [09:58.300 --> 10:05.300] But some of the scenes between the characters here just made me just warm my heart and I just [10:05.300 --> 10:06.300] cared so much about them. [10:06.300 --> 10:08.300] The stakes are very high. [10:08.300 --> 10:15.300] And as Kevin had said, we go back to putting it in the late 1940s, post-war Japan, and [10:16.300 --> 10:25.300] the film is not afraid to show how the destruction of Japan impacted those survivors. [10:25.300 --> 10:30.300] Your heart really is like, it's like God, this is what they are having, what the citizens are [10:30.300 --> 10:31.300] having to endure. [10:31.300 --> 10:33.300] And then Godzilla shows up. [10:33.300 --> 10:41.300] I mean, the film really shows how devastated it was both materially and spiritually to the [10:41.300 --> 10:42.300] war. [10:42.300 --> 10:44.300] The impact that it has. [10:44.300 --> 10:50.300] And it does have all the things you want in a Godzilla movie and all the extras screaming [10:50.300 --> 10:56.300] towards the cameras, Godzilla comes and the big tail swishes by and knocks over half a [10:56.300 --> 10:57.300] block. [10:57.300 --> 11:07.300] But it's the small moments in this that really, really stayed with me and that the film at [11:07.300 --> 11:12.300] the end of the day for me was very, very moving and I never expected that from this. [11:12.300 --> 11:18.300] And I think back upon my time seeing it very, very fondly and I am so happy it's being [11:18.300 --> 11:22.300] embraced and recognized even with the Motion Picture Academy. [11:22.300 --> 11:24.300] So here's to Godzilla. [11:24.300 --> 11:25.300] Yeah. 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[12:03.300 --> 12:04.300] Okay. [12:04.300 --> 12:06.300] So a little bit of preface. [12:06.300 --> 12:18.300] One of my biggest dark cinematic secrets is that prior to the 2014 Godzilla, the only Godzilla [12:18.300 --> 12:25.300] movie I had ever seen was the 1990 Roland Emmerich one. [12:25.300 --> 12:26.300] Yeah. [12:26.300 --> 12:27.300] From 98. [12:27.300 --> 12:28.300] I can simplify, Dan. [12:28.300 --> 12:29.300] I get it. [12:29.300 --> 12:35.300] It is not very good, but also it came out when I was in middle school. [12:35.300 --> 12:40.300] So like, you know, has a bit of a nostalgia factor to it. [12:40.300 --> 12:44.300] It was also satisfying that Jurassic Park itch for a lot of people out there. [12:44.300 --> 12:45.300] Yeah. [12:46.300 --> 12:48.300] Like I said, I get it. [12:48.300 --> 12:49.300] Yeah. [12:49.300 --> 12:51.900] But it is just like not a good movie. [12:51.900 --> 12:58.380] And in the lead up to the 2014 Gareth Edwards one was when I was like, maybe I should actually [12:58.380 --> 13:02.060] watch the original Godzilla and see what people fell in love with. [13:02.060 --> 13:09.220] And that first Godzilla movie is so much fun. [13:09.220 --> 13:15.820] It is more fun than watching a man in a rubber giant lizard suit knocking down cities should [13:15.820 --> 13:16.820] be. [13:16.820 --> 13:20.580] It's movie magic at its finest. [13:20.580 --> 13:25.300] And it's so great in so many ways. [13:25.300 --> 13:31.300] And because of that, I was sort of looking forward to this, especially when I heard the [13:31.300 --> 13:38.500] plot and when it takes place, although the title, well, the title still makes no sense [13:38.500 --> 13:40.220] to me. [13:40.220 --> 13:46.820] And particularly when we had to see this, and I think Matt and Kevin, you will commiserate [13:46.820 --> 13:53.780] with me on this, I did not necessarily want to go to the location where we had to go to [13:53.780 --> 14:02.020] see this movie because it is all the way over, like almost all the way east on Manhattan. [14:02.020 --> 14:03.700] We had to walk over from Grand Central. [14:03.700 --> 14:07.300] It's like a 20 minute walk and it was freezing cold. [14:07.300 --> 14:13.980] So this movie had a lot kind of like stacked against it going in because I was automatically [14:13.980 --> 14:18.940] comparing it to the original Godzilla film based on everything. [14:18.940 --> 14:24.940] And I didn't particularly want to be there on the night. [14:24.940 --> 14:31.500] But within the first five minutes, I was sold on this movie. [14:31.500 --> 14:39.220] The opening sequence in particular feels almost classical in its restraint and how it kind [14:39.220 --> 14:42.420] of hides Godzilla from you for a long time. [14:42.420 --> 14:51.420] But then when you finally see him, it's like, oh, the creature design is just maybe the best [14:51.420 --> 14:55.220] Godzilla has ever looked since the original. [14:55.220 --> 15:01.100] And part of that is because there are moments when the visual effects artists kind of embraced [15:01.100 --> 15:07.620] that men in a rubber suit aesthetic and really taking the whole series back to its roots [15:07.620 --> 15:09.740] in the best way. [15:09.740 --> 15:17.900] And the wartime melodrama that surrounds it, I think is just perfectly pitched. [15:17.900 --> 15:25.500] It is a deeply heartfelt story, one about found family that really resonated with me. [15:25.500 --> 15:34.860] But plus the Succora Ando presence, I was like, be honest, did Hirokazukori Ada do a rewrite [15:34.860 --> 15:36.540] on this? [15:36.540 --> 15:39.300] But like, yeah, obviously didn't. [15:39.300 --> 15:47.600] And he didn't need to because this movie is like near perfect, I think, in terms of meeting [15:47.600 --> 15:50.540] at its level, what it's trying to go for. [15:50.540 --> 15:52.580] It is funny. [15:52.580 --> 15:54.300] It is epic. [15:54.380 --> 16:01.380] I can't count the number of times, like, especially the first time that we see Godzilla [16:01.380 --> 16:10.140] powering up the the blue beam and those scales on his tail, just go click, click, click, click [16:10.140 --> 16:11.340] up. [16:11.340 --> 16:19.020] You can feel the whole audience going like, Oh, shit, here it comes. [16:19.020 --> 16:23.060] And just I'm so impressed with the rhythms of this thing. [16:23.060 --> 16:26.860] It is perfect pop filmmaking. [16:26.860 --> 16:36.860] It's maybe the best action visual effects movie that hasn't been directed by James Cameron [16:36.860 --> 16:40.060] in the current century. [16:40.060 --> 16:41.060] Hmm. [16:41.060 --> 16:42.060] I praise. [16:42.060 --> 16:43.060] Yeah. [16:43.060 --> 16:47.780] So my journey with Godzilla is very similar to yours, Dan. [16:47.780 --> 16:56.020] In 1998, eight year old Matt Naglia loved Roland Emmer and Godzilla got a little bit [16:56.020 --> 16:57.020] older. [16:57.020 --> 16:58.020] You know what? [16:58.020 --> 17:02.580] It was made for young boys and as young boys, we love it. [17:02.580 --> 17:03.580] Exactly. [17:03.580 --> 17:06.340] Got a little older, realized the error of my ways. [17:06.340 --> 17:07.340] Oh, yeah. [17:07.340 --> 17:09.780] 2014 Garif Edwards, Godzilla's coming out. [17:09.780 --> 17:11.980] I decided to watch the original. [17:11.980 --> 17:19.000] I do end up buying that Criterion Blu-Ray eventually at some point or another and I still own it [17:19.000 --> 17:20.000] to this day. [17:20.000 --> 17:21.800] I love that movie. [17:21.800 --> 17:28.100] Then in the lead up to the sequel, Godzilla, King of the Monsters, that's when I went back [17:28.100 --> 17:31.940] and saw Shin Godzilla, I didn't watch that at the time of its release. [17:31.940 --> 17:39.740] I had to kind of like really bring myself to watch that one mostly because my feeling towards [17:39.740 --> 17:44.260] a lot of the international Godzilla films was that they were mostly not good or at [17:44.260 --> 17:47.500] least that was like my perception of them. [17:47.500 --> 17:53.500] So I never bothered to watch any of them, honestly, until I watched in Godzilla, which [17:53.500 --> 17:54.660] I thought was fine. [17:54.660 --> 17:57.340] I liked it at the time. [17:57.340 --> 18:03.020] And then it's funny because then I watched King of the Monsters and I hated that movie. [18:03.020 --> 18:04.220] We have a podcast review of that. [18:04.220 --> 18:08.780] If you want to hear how much I despise that movie and it made Shin Godzilla look so much [18:08.780 --> 18:13.940] better by comparison, along comes Godzilla-1 now. [18:13.940 --> 18:20.020] And I'm having like a very similar type of feeling where I'm hearing rumblings overseas. [18:20.020 --> 18:21.020] It's good. [18:21.020 --> 18:24.700] People are saying it's the best Godzilla film yet. [18:24.700 --> 18:29.620] And I'm thinking to myself, okay, well, it doesn't have a US distributor. [18:29.620 --> 18:34.020] I will wait and see for myself when it gets released here. [18:34.020 --> 18:37.340] Turns out it didn't need a US distributor. [18:37.340 --> 18:43.660] It just simply got, you know, pushed here, basically, and that night we all saw it together, [18:43.660 --> 18:45.700] Dan, that you were referencing. [18:45.700 --> 18:47.180] I remember taking it myself off. [18:47.180 --> 18:51.220] This is unlike any other screening for a film I've been to this year. [18:51.220 --> 18:53.860] It's not repped by a major studio or anything like that. [18:53.860 --> 18:57.780] I don't even know when this is being released, you know, theatrically, how many people are [18:57.780 --> 18:58.780] going to see it or whatever. [18:58.780 --> 19:02.100] It felt very exclusive, you know? [19:02.100 --> 19:05.380] And I had no real expectations heading into it. [19:05.380 --> 19:11.620] So to emerge from it with this feeling of, whoa, wait a minute, what did I just watch? [19:11.620 --> 19:12.620] Did I? [19:12.620 --> 19:19.060] Did I just see everything I expected with regards to the mass destruction, the action and, you [19:19.060 --> 19:21.020] know, the Godzilla of it all? [19:21.020 --> 19:22.020] Yes. [19:22.020 --> 19:23.700] I clearly got all of that. [19:23.700 --> 19:27.820] But what I wasn't expecting and what I did get was what was referenced earlier was this [19:27.820 --> 19:36.460] really emotional moving story that was focused on these characters who really embodied a [19:36.460 --> 19:39.220] sense of nationalistic pride. [19:39.220 --> 19:43.980] And when you talk about, Dan, like the title, Godzilla minus one, what that represents is [19:43.980 --> 19:50.700] it represents how Japan post World War II is at its lowest point possible. [19:50.700 --> 19:57.660] They are at a zero and then Godzilla comes along and makes things even worse, thus bringing [19:57.660 --> 20:01.620] in the Japanese people to minus one. [20:01.620 --> 20:05.620] Well, I'll tell you this, you could put me in the plus one column for this movie. [20:05.620 --> 20:10.100] I thought this movie was pretty awesome for the most part. [20:10.100 --> 20:15.380] I do have some quibbles here and there, which we'll get into in just a little bit. [20:15.380 --> 20:20.940] But overall, when people talk about is this the best Godzilla film, I can't, I can't sit [20:20.940 --> 20:26.380] here and say personally, if it is, because I haven't seen enough of them to make that [20:26.380 --> 20:27.380] call. [20:27.380 --> 20:34.820] But I think I would go so far as to say of the ones I've seen, it definitely is. [20:34.820 --> 20:36.980] Where do you all fall on that argument? [20:36.980 --> 20:44.140] Well, it's really nice to hear someone else has seen shingazilla because shingazilla is [20:44.140 --> 20:47.740] still my personal favorite of all the ones that I've seen. [20:47.740 --> 20:53.820] I wrote an entire article about why I think shingazilla is a masterpiece. [20:53.820 --> 21:03.940] And I think much of my personal reservations about Godzilla minus one comes from its political [21:03.940 --> 21:12.760] themes because I think politically and on a higher level big picture standpoint of what [21:12.760 --> 21:16.180] it's trying to say of what it's commentary is. [21:16.180 --> 21:21.860] I feel like it's less progressive than shingazilla is. [21:21.860 --> 21:29.900] One of the things that I was so impressed by in shingazilla was it stands on just nuclear [21:29.900 --> 21:36.700] energy existing in our world because the original 1954 film was talking about how this is a [21:36.700 --> 21:42.140] point of no return humanity has invented this thing and we can't unlearn it anymore. [21:42.140 --> 21:46.740] And unfortunately, it is a thing that is capable of destroying the world. [21:46.740 --> 21:50.180] Kind of like Oppenheimer this year. [21:50.180 --> 21:57.740] Anyway, shingazilla had a really progressive modernized take on that message, which is listen, [21:57.740 --> 22:02.220] the reality is nuclear energy exists now in our world. [22:02.220 --> 22:09.580] And so the only thing we can do is to act responsibly and like look after it and like [22:09.580 --> 22:18.180] keep it at bay, which is why the way shingazilla resolves is very different from how the 1954 [22:18.180 --> 22:19.180] original resolves. [22:19.180 --> 22:21.860] And it's also different from how minus one resolves. [22:21.860 --> 22:26.180] And I mean that in terms of what literally happens to gazilla himself. [22:26.180 --> 22:29.100] And so I don't know. [22:29.100 --> 22:35.780] I was very personally impressed by shingazilla that I so wanted the next Toho film to be [22:35.780 --> 22:37.900] a sequel to that. [22:37.900 --> 22:43.860] And to see that the next Toho film was another back to page one, back to the very beginning [22:43.860 --> 22:45.100] and back to the roots. [22:45.100 --> 22:50.540] I thought, okay, all right, fine, what do you got this time? [22:50.540 --> 22:59.420] Fortunately, I got the most emotional, well done human story, which is a plus. [22:59.420 --> 23:03.100] But I think commentary wise, it is not my favorite one. [23:03.100 --> 23:09.060] I think it sits probably third behind the original 1954 one and behind shingazilla. 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