Episode 390 - New Oscar Rules, Cannes Additions, "Deadpool & Wolverine" & "Blink Twice" Trailers

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[00:00:42] Thank you life. Thank you love. You guys are just standing up because you feel bad that I fell and that's really embarrassing to think. This is nuts. It's a tie. I'm the king of the world. And the Oscar goes to...

[00:00:55] And the Oscar goes to... The Oscar goes to... The Oscar goes to... My only object in the affair is to try and get at...

[00:01:02] I wish I could watch like this.

[00:01:04] He's looking at you, kid. Right there right here.

[00:01:08] Passing you.

[00:01:09] I could have been somebody. They could only kill me with a golden bullet.

[00:01:12] What have I done?

[00:01:13] Call me Mr. Tiff.

[00:01:15] I'm gonna make him an offer, kid.

[00:01:17] The census taken once tried to test me.

[00:01:19] I ate his liver.

[00:01:21] I would send it for free.

[00:01:23] For fraud.

[00:01:24] For the nice of the year.

[00:01:25] Don't laugh.

[00:01:26] Can't stop what's going on.

[00:01:27] This ain't reality TV.

[00:01:29] I'm all not falling for this man.

[00:01:32] The odd Twitter.

[00:01:33] It's time, Rob. It's fast.

[00:01:39] And Maria is the Oppenheimer.

[00:01:42] Yeah.

[00:01:43] Hello everyone and welcome to the Next Best Picture podcast.

[00:01:46] I'm your host, Matt Negli.

[00:01:47] The time of recording is 11.25 AM on April 28th, 2024.

[00:01:52] Here to join me today for episode 390,

[00:01:56] I have Nadia Dalamante.

[00:01:59] Hello everyone.

[00:02:00] Josh Parham.

[00:02:02] Hello hello.

[00:02:03] And Will Mavvy.

[00:02:05] Hello hello hello.

[00:02:06] So for this week,

[00:02:09] we got the announcement from Ampus

[00:02:11] of some new rules that are going to be implemented

[00:02:14] for the 97th Academy Awards.

[00:02:18] We also got some additions

[00:02:20] to the Cannes Film Festival lineup,

[00:02:21] which Josh Parham and I are leaving for in two weeks.

[00:02:26] Can't believe it.

[00:02:27] No, I can't either.

[00:02:29] And we're gonna go over some trailers.

[00:02:32] We'll go over the polls as we usually do.

[00:02:34] But before we get to any of that,

[00:02:36] and of course answering your fan questions,

[00:02:38] how could I forget that?

[00:02:39] I wanna know what everyone's been watching this past week,

[00:02:41] starting off first with Will Mavvy.

[00:02:43] Will, what did you catch up with over the last week?

[00:02:47] All right, so for anyone who hates creepy crawlies,

[00:02:51] I watched Infested,

[00:02:53] which is one of the two killer spider movies

[00:02:56] released this month.

[00:02:58] And it's good.

[00:03:01] It is sufficiently scary.

[00:03:04] I hate spiders.

[00:03:06] And I think it's better than sting,

[00:03:08] both in terms of craftsmanship and characterization.

[00:03:12] I think the filmmakers really wanted to make a metaphor

[00:03:17] about what happens when you don't give support

[00:03:23] to low-income neighborhoods.

[00:03:26] They get infested with spiders?

[00:03:29] Yeah, well yeah.

[00:03:30] And I think the idea is like,

[00:03:31] well, if they would stop quarantining us

[00:03:34] and let us outside, then we'd all be okay.

[00:03:37] But you could be a metaphor,

[00:03:39] but the rules you need to have created

[00:03:42] for the movie need to kind of make sense.

[00:03:44] And the way this is playing it is like,

[00:03:46] hey, no, police officer has just released the quarantine

[00:03:50] and let us in these very objectively deadly spiders out.

[00:03:55] And to me, it's kinda like that.

[00:03:59] And then the logistics of how the apartment is set up,

[00:04:03] they don't really think through it.

[00:04:06] And I think it kinda decreases

[00:04:08] some of the tension of the film.

[00:04:09] Like something like this works best if you make it

[00:04:12] just kind of like the raid where you're going up

[00:04:15] or you're going down, whereas this,

[00:04:16] it's a lot of going back and forth

[00:04:19] and it's not really clear what parts of the apartment

[00:04:21] are awful limits because of the spider, stuff like that.

[00:04:25] And it ends up being a little incoherent.

[00:04:28] And it also, I think because it is focused

[00:04:30] on the metaphor aspect,

[00:04:33] it loses kind of the white knuckle suspense

[00:04:35] you have by the last 40 minutes.

[00:04:38] I would compare it to the World War Z movie

[00:04:40] where like basically, if you remember until Brad Pitt

[00:04:45] gets out of the continental United States,

[00:04:48] it's very, very intense and stressful.

[00:04:51] And then it kind of gets a little bit more plotting.

[00:04:53] And this felt the same way.

[00:04:55] That being said, it's better

[00:04:57] than any killer spider movie I've seen this century.

[00:05:01] If you are interested in movies with deadly spiders,

[00:05:05] I would certainly still check it out.

[00:05:07] There's some really great, clever sequences

[00:05:11] like the fact that every light fixture in the building

[00:05:15] is designed to have a one minute timer

[00:05:18] and spiders have swarmed the walls

[00:05:22] and the people have to make it

[00:05:23] through the hallways every time.

[00:05:25] And so it's a great kind of like Hitchcock thing

[00:05:27] of you know the lights gonna shut off any second

[00:05:30] and are they gonna make it through the hall in time?

[00:05:33] So you know, it's and I really do think this one

[00:05:36] would have been a good one to see in a theater

[00:05:38] as opposed to home because everyone would be squealing

[00:05:41] and squirming.

[00:05:43] But yeah, that and I guess I'll mention sting also.

[00:05:45] I also saw sting.

[00:05:46] Maybe this is my form of therapy

[00:05:48] because I hate spiders.

[00:05:49] Sting is decent but it first off

[00:05:53] there's some really wonky accents.

[00:05:55] And it also I think it's another one

[00:05:57] where instead of focusing on just on the fear

[00:06:00] it doesn't really stick the landing

[00:06:02] in terms of the emotional aspect

[00:06:06] but it really wants to focus on that.

[00:06:08] But it's disappointing in terms of the variety of its kills.

[00:06:11] We got one nasty spider that climbs into someone's mouth

[00:06:15] and rips its way out.

[00:06:16] But other than that, it's just kind of traditional.

[00:06:19] Okay, you got eaten.

[00:06:21] So if you're gonna choose one of the two

[00:06:23] I would choose and fest it.

[00:06:25] That's definitely better than two

[00:06:27] but other than that

[00:06:28] it's mostly been catching up on shows

[00:06:30] so I will leave that there.

[00:06:32] All right, all right.

[00:06:34] Spiders are the stuff that nightmares are made of for me

[00:06:37] so I am probably going to set aside time

[00:06:40] to watch Infested later this evening.

[00:06:43] I have not had a chance to watch it yet

[00:06:45] but I'm pretty excited based on what you've said here today.

[00:06:49] Nadia, what about you?

[00:06:51] I've had a pretty white week on the movie front overall

[00:06:55] but I did catch up with a couple of new releases.

[00:06:59] I finally saw the Sydney Sweeney horror movie Immaculate.

[00:07:05] And was it Immaculate?

[00:07:08] Sadly, not as much as I thought.

[00:07:12] I was mostly engaged with it

[00:07:13] but I was a little disappointed by this movie.

[00:07:17] I thought thematically it was compelling.

[00:07:19] The concept I think had the bones of a good horror story

[00:07:23] but for me the plot points felt a little rushed.

[00:07:27] I actually think the movie could have benefited

[00:07:29] from being a little longer

[00:07:30] and maybe expanding on its ideas with a little more attention

[00:07:35] but having said that,

[00:07:38] add Sydney Sweeney to the list of screen queens

[00:07:40] because what she does in the last

[00:07:44] little bit of this movie is I couldn't believe

[00:07:47] what I was saying.

[00:07:48] It's just an incredible showing of her talent

[00:07:51] and her command of the screen.

[00:07:54] So her performance really carried the experience for me.

[00:07:59] But overall I have to say a little disappointed

[00:08:02] especially given the hype going into it.

[00:08:05] So sadly not as Immaculate

[00:08:07] as the title would suggest for me

[00:08:09] but Sydney Sweeney herself is Immaculate in the movie.

[00:08:14] I also saw Challengers yesterday

[00:08:17] which I'm still buzzing from to be honest.

[00:08:21] Mike Feist, hello, I've missed you a lot.

[00:08:23] Welcome back.

[00:08:26] I'm a big fan of Look at Guadagnino going into it

[00:08:29] so I mean he's got my Italian heart

[00:08:31] and he serves really well with this movie.

[00:08:34] I think I'm really just still buzzing from it.

[00:08:37] I'm on a high from it.

[00:08:39] From the moment it starts to the finale

[00:08:41] I was pretty much hooked by the tension

[00:08:44] and the seduction going on between these three characters

[00:08:47] and not only with the love triangle

[00:08:49] but just this foreplay of power dynamics

[00:08:54] all three of these performances

[00:08:56] and Daia, Mike Feist, Joshua Connor

[00:08:58] who between this and La Kimetta, oh my God.

[00:09:03] I mean they're all so incredibly in sync

[00:09:06] and when they're not at a tennis match

[00:09:09] their scenes still feel like you're at a tennis match.

[00:09:12] Their chemistry is so incredible in this movie.

[00:09:16] And I just loved how Guadagnino structured the story.

[00:09:20] There's quite a few time jumps later on

[00:09:24] but I think the more I think about those jumps

[00:09:25] the more each one kind of feels like a ball being hit

[00:09:28] with a racket at high speed going back and forth

[00:09:31] and then all of those jumps kind of culminate

[00:09:34] into this really electric conclusion.

[00:09:38] So I mean thematically it worked so well for me

[00:09:43] on a performance level.

[00:09:44] It was just so compelling to watch

[00:09:47] and the technical achievements, the cinematography,

[00:09:50] getting these really fascinating points of view

[00:09:53] especially when you're at the matches with the characters

[00:09:58] and the Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross score

[00:10:00] which I've been listening to on repeat

[00:10:02] and needs to drop on a dance floor somewhere

[00:10:05] because it's just fantastic.

[00:10:07] So I'm on a pretty big high from this movie.

[00:10:10] I'm already planning a second match with it

[00:10:12] so it'll be interesting to see how

[00:10:15] all the power dynamics hold up on a second watch.

[00:10:20] Yeah, I had my second watch

[00:10:21] before we did our podcast review

[00:10:23] and I'm quite glad I did because we had a very good discussion

[00:10:28] regarding the movie I found

[00:10:30] and my views actually did slightly change a little bit

[00:10:33] after the second viewing.

[00:10:35] So if you guys wanna hear more on challengers

[00:10:38] by all means listen to our podcast review of that.

[00:10:41] Josh, what about you?

[00:10:43] So this week actually was filled with

[00:10:45] mostly rewatches of stuff.

[00:10:47] I didn't see too many like first time things

[00:10:49] so like I rewatched the kids all right

[00:10:51] because we just had a podcast review of it

[00:10:53] which I actually really think that's a good podcast discussion

[00:10:55] we had about that movie.

[00:10:56] I would highly recommend people check that one out

[00:11:00] because the movie I have certain opinions about

[00:11:03] but I think our discussion about the movie was really good

[00:11:05] so I appreciated that.

[00:11:07] I'm gonna coastline this

[00:11:08] because it was actually for me

[00:11:10] maybe the most surprising podcast review

[00:11:13] I think we've had this year, yeah.

[00:11:15] I didn't expect it to go quite that deep with it

[00:11:18] and I'm glad we did

[00:11:19] because it's a fascinating movie just to discuss.

[00:11:22] I also saw the mask again in theaters

[00:11:25] it was the first time in theaters actually

[00:11:27] still such a fun movie

[00:11:28] and one of my favorite Jim Carrey performances

[00:11:31] and honestly I kind of think maybe that movie

[00:11:34] should have one visual effects back in 94.

[00:11:36] I think maybe I have that opinion now.

[00:11:39] You know what, oh my gosh

[00:11:40] every time I see that movie

[00:11:42] there's Peter Rygurt or Regert rather.

[00:11:46] Yeah.

[00:11:47] This line delivery of those pajamas are ridiculous.

[00:11:51] This actually happened, kills me every single time.

[00:11:55] Oh that's great.

[00:11:56] Everything with the Cuban Pete sequence too

[00:11:58] it's like one of my favorites.

[00:11:59] I love that.

[00:12:01] Oh yeah, it's a great movie

[00:12:02] and I love getting to see it in the theater

[00:12:04] that was a treat.

[00:12:05] I also-

[00:12:06] Wait before you stop that Josh

[00:12:07] did they bring back the scene that I grew up with

[00:12:11] I remember seeing when it was on TV

[00:12:13] and it's never been in any of the home video releases

[00:12:16] where that one journalist gets thrown to the printing press.

[00:12:19] And that's not in there, no.

[00:12:21] I think that continues to be like a deleted scene

[00:12:24] but yeah.

[00:12:25] Prostrating.

[00:12:26] It's always on TV

[00:12:27] and I've never seen on any of the home video releases.

[00:12:29] Yeah, no that one wasn't in here

[00:12:31] but I do remember that scene

[00:12:32] so I can just picture it in my mind

[00:12:34] as I'm watching the film.

[00:12:36] Another one that I rewatched in the theater

[00:12:38] was the re-release of Alien

[00:12:40] because of course I had to go see that in a theater.

[00:12:42] Yeah, I was gonna say

[00:12:44] I wouldn't expect anything less from you Josh.

[00:12:46] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:12:47] It's like a contender for maybe the greatest film of all time.

[00:12:51] Like that's how much I love that film.

[00:12:52] I think it is an incredible masterpiece

[00:12:54] and I will never pass up an opportunity

[00:12:57] to see it in a theater.

[00:12:58] And it's great.

[00:12:59] The only thing that I will add

[00:13:00] is I mentioned this on Twitter

[00:13:02] Dallas is a terrible captain.

[00:13:04] I have believed this ever since I first saw the movie

[00:13:06] he is awful.

[00:13:08] Most of what happens in that movie

[00:13:09] that is terrible is because of his fault.

[00:13:11] And I stand by this conviction

[00:13:12] that Dallas is a terrible, terrible captain.

[00:13:15] But I mean still, movie is excellent.

[00:13:19] And I did rewatch Challengers as well

[00:13:21] which I'm still also just kind of loving.

[00:13:24] It might actually be my favorite film of the year

[00:13:25] and at this point to be honest

[00:13:27] I think that movie is just so much fun

[00:13:29] and I love those dynamics.

[00:13:30] And God that finale

[00:13:32] especially watching it with just like a regular crowd

[00:13:34] you could feel everybody just lean in

[00:13:37] in those last like 20 minutes

[00:13:38] and it's just such a great rush

[00:13:40] and then you get that song that plays over the end credits

[00:13:43] and I just wanted to sit there and bask in that music

[00:13:46] and it's, oh, it's so good.

[00:13:47] I do really, really love that film.

[00:13:50] And then the other movies that I saw

[00:13:53] that were actually first time watches

[00:13:54] there were two this week.

[00:13:55] One was I caught up with We Grown Now.

[00:13:58] Yeah.

[00:13:59] Which is really good.

[00:14:00] I liked that movie quite a bit.

[00:14:01] I don't think it was perfect.

[00:14:03] I do have some issues with kind of the way

[00:14:05] the narrative has this structure

[00:14:09] that kind of, I don't know

[00:14:10] it felt like it impeded the momentum a little bit for me

[00:14:12] that I would sort of be into it

[00:14:13] and then it would kind of slow down and take me out

[00:14:15] but the aesthetics of this movie are just so gorgeous.

[00:14:20] It's wonderfully shot.

[00:14:21] I love the performances.

[00:14:22] So there's a lot of good in the movie.

[00:14:24] I think it kind of falters a little bit

[00:14:26] in terms of the pacing

[00:14:27] but overall I still really found myself

[00:14:30] mostly connecting to it

[00:14:32] and I would hope more people tried to seek it out

[00:14:34] because it is actually a pretty good film.

[00:14:37] And then the last thing that I saw

[00:14:40] was unfortunately a disappointment

[00:14:42] that I was kind of looking forward to actually

[00:14:44] and it was a movie called Boy Kills World.

[00:14:47] Ooh.

[00:14:48] I was so let down by this movie

[00:14:50] because the trailers actually looked kind of fun.

[00:14:52] You know, I wasn't going in with high expectations

[00:14:54] but hoping that it would be at least entertaining

[00:14:58] on a very basic level

[00:15:00] and I just thought that it fumbled that bag so hard.

[00:15:04] I did not like the characters.

[00:15:06] I thought they were all annoying.

[00:15:07] I thought the world building was pretty weak

[00:15:11] and ill-defined and most of the humor was just so flat

[00:15:16] and kind of painful to get through.

[00:15:18] The last fight scene is really well done

[00:15:21] but even the other action set pieces leading up to that

[00:15:23] I thought were competent, they were fine

[00:15:26] but they didn't really give you a lot of energy

[00:15:28] to get excited about.

[00:15:30] So yeah, this was one where I was actually sort of

[00:15:33] looking forward to having a good time with it

[00:15:34] and was very, very let down.

[00:15:36] Yeah, this was from me when I saw this at midnight at Tiff.

[00:15:41] I remember thinking to myself,

[00:15:42] man, Eva, I'm just really tired

[00:15:44] or that was nowhere near as fun

[00:15:47] and exciting as it should have been

[00:15:50] and it turned out to be well both

[00:15:52] but regardless of which

[00:15:55] I was very, very let down by this movie when I saw it

[00:15:58] and I heard that they replaced Bill Skarsgard's

[00:16:00] voiceover with the guy from Bob's Burgers.

[00:16:03] Yeah, H. John Benjamin who I normally really like

[00:16:06] but I don't think this material is anywhere near

[00:16:08] as funny as that and I found it to be pretty tedious

[00:16:13] to get through which as I said was very, very disappointing.

[00:16:16] Yeah, it felt very try hard to me in a lot of ways

[00:16:20] from its like crazy camera work,

[00:16:24] the frame rates constantly changing,

[00:16:27] the dizzying editing

[00:16:29] and I just didn't find it funny either.

[00:16:30] I didn't find humor ever landed for me.

[00:16:33] So just felt like a complete misfire altogether

[00:16:36] which is definitely a bummer.

[00:16:38] Yeah, and when you do especially underdeliver

[00:16:42] on Andrew Koji and Famke Jessen,

[00:16:44] like that's the greatest sin in my book.

[00:16:48] For me for this past week

[00:16:49] other than a challenge as rewatched

[00:16:50] this was a very extremely light week for me.

[00:16:55] There are two movies I'm catching up with

[00:16:56] later this evening.

[00:16:57] I'm gonna be watching Power

[00:16:59] which was a documentary from Sundance that I missed

[00:17:01] and I'm also gonna be watching Infested

[00:17:03] but I can't talk about Ivor right now

[00:17:06] because I haven't seen them yet.

[00:17:07] But the film that I did watch this week

[00:17:09] that I can talk about is the directorial debut

[00:17:11] from Caitlin Cronenberg.

[00:17:13] Yes, daughter of David Cronenberg,

[00:17:17] sister of Brendan Cronenberg called Humane

[00:17:21] and this is starring Jay Baruchel,

[00:17:23] Emily Hampshire, Peter Gallagher.

[00:17:25] Have you guys heard of this?

[00:17:27] I've heard of it.

[00:17:28] Yeah, I saw the trailer to it.

[00:17:29] Yeah, so it's got a really,

[00:17:31] I think pretty ingenious premise

[00:17:34] where in the not too distant future

[00:17:39] the world has pretty much been overpopulated

[00:17:42] and as a result of which

[00:17:44] because the environment is crumbling

[00:17:47] in order to save the planet,

[00:17:49] the world needs to shed 20% of the human population

[00:17:54] and they do this via like a government-organized

[00:17:58] volunteer and listing service.

[00:18:01] So you sign up to basically be euthanized

[00:18:04] and essentially it's like this whole procedural

[00:18:08] that is nowhere near as dark or violent

[00:18:13] as you would think, they actually,

[00:18:15] the title suggests tries to make sure you die

[00:18:18] in a very humane sort of way.

[00:18:21] But where this film has this kind of sick twist

[00:18:25] is Peter Gallagher and his wife

[00:18:27] decide to go through with the procedure.

[00:18:28] They bring their whole family together for a dinner

[00:18:30] to let them know collectively

[00:18:32] that they're deciding to do this.

[00:18:34] One of them goes through with it,

[00:18:35] the other one gets cold feet

[00:18:37] and because the other one gets cold feet,

[00:18:40] the guys who are running the operation

[00:18:42] tell the remaining children,

[00:18:44] well, unfortunately because there were two bodies

[00:18:46] that signed up for this, we need another body.

[00:18:49] So you guys need to figure this out amongst you,

[00:18:54] which one of you is going to voluntarily

[00:18:56] decide to give your life?

[00:18:58] Yeah.

[00:18:59] How old are the kids?

[00:19:01] They range a little bit.

[00:19:02] One is like, I think in her early 20s

[00:19:06] and so was like this one boy who's adopted

[00:19:09] amongst the family.

[00:19:10] So he's not actually like really part of their blood.

[00:19:12] And then there's like two older siblings as well.

[00:19:16] And so it becomes at first this debate

[00:19:21] over who's live means the least.

[00:19:26] And nobody will miss this person

[00:19:28] or whatever the case might be,

[00:19:29] but then it starts to get more dark and twisted

[00:19:32] and they all start trying to kill each other.

[00:19:36] And it was fun.

[00:19:38] I had a good time with it.

[00:19:39] It's not great.

[00:19:41] It definitely reminded me of these dark comedy,

[00:19:46] not so much satires, but like,

[00:19:48] movies like the menu for example,

[00:19:50] but I don't think it was anywhere near as good as those.

[00:19:53] But as far as a directorial debut goes

[00:19:57] for another Cronenberg,

[00:19:59] I'm excited to see what she comes up with next in the future.

[00:20:01] And I love that this whole family is completely sick,

[00:20:03] twisted and fucked up.

[00:20:05] What did David Cronenberg do to those kids?

[00:20:08] Probably made his movies.

[00:20:09] I was gonna say, yeah.

[00:20:13] All right.

[00:20:14] So let's head on over to some news.

[00:20:17] Let's start off first with what's going on with Cann,

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[00:21:33] So we had a lot of can announcements this past week.

[00:21:36] Far more than I actually thought we were going to get it.

[00:21:39] I mean, we might still get some more this upcoming week,

[00:21:42] but it's funny because a couple of days ago on the show,

[00:21:46] we were talking about how they were honoring Studio G.

[00:21:49] Blee this year with the honorary Palm Door

[00:21:52] and there had not been a film in competition

[00:21:55] at Cannes animated film since Waltz with Bashir in 2008.

[00:22:01] Well, that has now changed.

[00:22:04] And it seems like this year they are adding

[00:22:06] far more animated films than I could have even possibly

[00:22:09] have ever imagined.

[00:22:11] And so one of those is going to be the new film

[00:22:15] from Academy Award winner, Michelle has a lot of vicious,

[00:22:19] the most precious of cargoes.

[00:22:22] And this is going to be competing

[00:22:23] in the competition section.

[00:22:26] I have been kind of hot and cold

[00:22:31] on Michelle's work since the artist in 2011.

[00:22:34] But I have to say if he has a film

[00:22:37] that is worthy of being in competition that's animated,

[00:22:40] that definitely has piqued my interest.

[00:22:42] If it was just another live action film from him,

[00:22:44] I'd kind of turn around and say,

[00:22:46] ah, they're just giving him a slot because of who he is,

[00:22:49] not because the film is any good.

[00:22:51] But this has me pretty excited

[00:22:55] based on the premise and what I'm hearing about it.

[00:22:57] Yeah, being an animated movie

[00:22:58] is what's really fascinating.

[00:23:01] And the fact that it's in competition as well,

[00:23:03] I mean, I think a part of that is the filmmaker for sure.

[00:23:05] But it's still a pretty big spotlight

[00:23:07] for that kind of a film.

[00:23:09] And yeah, I agree with you, Matt.

[00:23:11] His work since the artist has not really set

[00:23:14] the world on fire.

[00:23:15] And so I don't know if I'm,

[00:23:18] I think that element might damper my anticipation

[00:23:21] just a little bit,

[00:23:22] but I'm still super intrigued about this movie.

[00:23:24] It's scored by Alexandra Desplott.

[00:23:27] It's a World War II Holocaust drama.

[00:23:30] We'll see how it plays out.

[00:23:32] Iranian director Muhammad Rasulif

[00:23:35] has a new film, The Seed of the Sacred Fig,

[00:23:37] that has also been added to the competition lineup.

[00:23:40] And Jessica Pollood's Maria

[00:23:42] about the tragic life of Maria Schneider,

[00:23:45] who starred in Bernardo Bertolucci's

[00:23:47] controversial film, Last Tango in Paris,

[00:23:50] has been added to the Cannes premiere section.

[00:23:53] We also found out that Oliver Stone

[00:23:55] has a documentary called Lula,

[00:23:58] which is going to be added to the special screenings section.

[00:24:01] There was quite a few other announcements here

[00:24:04] alongside that.

[00:24:05] There's this animated film called Flow

[00:24:08] from Ginz Zilbalo Dis, I hope I'm saying that correctly.

[00:24:13] That's in the Uncertain Regards section

[00:24:15] and that's one that I particularly,

[00:24:18] other than Michelle's film,

[00:24:19] I have my eye on this one as maybe

[00:24:22] sort of like a robot dreams under the radar

[00:24:24] type of animated film that,

[00:24:27] you know, might like I said,

[00:24:29] fly under the radar,

[00:24:30] but as we get to end of year,

[00:24:31] all of a sudden it might start

[00:24:32] picking up some critical prizes.

[00:24:34] And especially this year for animated feature feels like

[00:24:38] there's a real opportunity to break up

[00:24:40] the big Disney Pixar stranglehold.

[00:24:44] And I don't know, it almost feels like

[00:24:46] Boy in the Heron winning might have opened the door more

[00:24:50] to these types of films.

[00:24:51] And I'm actually really looking forward

[00:24:53] to the animated feature front this year.

[00:24:55] Yeah.

[00:24:56] Well, and because this,

[00:24:57] I think we just got an announcement

[00:24:59] that there's a new film coming this year

[00:25:01] from the director of Marion Maxx.

[00:25:04] Yeah.

[00:25:05] And he also did the animated short film winner

[00:25:09] like 20 years ago, Harvey Crumpet.

[00:25:11] So, you know, Marion Maxx,

[00:25:14] that's movie that since it was released

[00:25:16] has really gotten a pretty passionate following online.

[00:25:20] So I would love to see his follow up film

[00:25:23] be a serious contender.

[00:25:25] Yeah, just I completely agree.

[00:25:27] I am very intrigued to see where the animated

[00:25:32] feature lineup is going this year.

[00:25:34] What's that?

[00:25:35] I think, is it a DreamWorks one?

[00:25:37] The robot one that keeps being promoted everywhere?

[00:25:40] Yes, while robot.

[00:25:41] That's actually for me, my early front runner

[00:25:45] for best animated feature,

[00:25:47] side unseen so far.

[00:25:49] Yeah.

[00:25:49] And then what does the Disney mafia

[00:25:52] have in store this year?

[00:25:53] Inside out too.

[00:25:54] Okay.

[00:25:55] But wanted to.

[00:25:58] We'll see.

[00:25:58] You can see why we're looking towards Can

[00:26:01] for a little bit of a life raft, let's say.

[00:26:06] But that's exciting.

[00:26:08] It is.

[00:26:08] Oh, absolutely.

[00:26:10] I know that there are so many people out there

[00:26:12] as I just recently saw on social media

[00:26:14] who don't want to talk about Oscars this early in the year

[00:26:17] but you can't avoid the fact

[00:26:19] that Oscar contenders do tend to premiere at Can.

[00:26:23] So we will see.

[00:26:26] Outside of that, like I said,

[00:26:27] there are other titles that were announced.

[00:26:28] You can head on over to nextbestpicture.com

[00:26:30] to check them out here.

[00:26:32] Beyond that though,

[00:26:33] there was a conversation that's going to be taking place

[00:26:37] with Valorina Galino.

[00:26:40] That will be taking place over at the festival.

[00:26:42] The Cinema of Dale Plage section was also announced.

[00:26:47] Screenings for young audiences.

[00:26:49] Man, I really wish

[00:26:52] that film from Adam Elliot guys

[00:26:54] that you mentioned before,

[00:26:55] Memoir of a Snail,

[00:26:56] I really, really wish that was playing here.

[00:26:58] But I digress.

[00:27:00] It's okay.

[00:27:01] We got six animated films

[00:27:02] that are going to be playing at Can this year.

[00:27:04] One in competition,

[00:27:06] one in uncertain regard

[00:27:07] and then there are all these other ones

[00:27:08] that are playing in these other various sections.

[00:27:12] So I'm excited to just see

[00:27:15] which of them ends up breaking through in a major way

[00:27:17] and maybe like I said,

[00:27:20] getting into this year's animated feature race.

[00:27:23] And then beyond that,

[00:27:24] they also announced the classics and events section.

[00:27:29] And man, there are some really, really fascinating

[00:27:34] restorations and anniversary screenings.

[00:27:38] Oh, the last film from Jean-Luc Godard before his death.

[00:27:42] I mean, there's so much good stuff here

[00:27:44] that I'm almost like,

[00:27:47] I'm so sad that I will not have time

[00:27:50] to watch the majority of these films that show here.

[00:27:55] It's heartbreaking,

[00:27:56] because there's only so much time.

[00:27:59] Yeah, oh, that anniversary showing

[00:28:01] of the umbrellas of Sherbrooke?

[00:28:02] Oh, yes.

[00:28:03] That one.

[00:28:05] That's a tough one to miss

[00:28:06] because that is an incredible movie.

[00:28:08] They got the 40th anniversary of Paris, Texas.

[00:28:12] Oh, Vin Vendors is going to be there for it.

[00:28:15] They're screening Seven Samurai.

[00:28:18] Oh, God.

[00:28:19] Yeah.

[00:28:21] I want to go so, so badly.

[00:28:22] Maybe by the grace of whatever God I worship,

[00:28:26] there will be a break in my schedule somewhere

[00:28:28] and this will all line up.

[00:28:30] But I did see though that two documentary films

[00:28:34] in particular that caught my eye

[00:28:36] are having their world premieres

[00:28:37] at the Cannes Film Festival.

[00:28:38] One of them is Faye,

[00:28:40] which is a documentary about the life and career

[00:28:43] of Faye Dunnaway.

[00:28:45] And she's going to be in person at Cannes

[00:28:48] to present this as well.

[00:28:50] And then the other one is a Ron Howard documentary,

[00:28:52] Jim Henson Idea Man,

[00:28:55] which is going to be coming to Disney Plus.

[00:28:57] I had no idea that Ron Howard

[00:28:59] was even making this documentary,

[00:29:00] to be honest with you.

[00:29:02] No idea either,

[00:29:03] but Jim Henson is a really interesting figure.

[00:29:07] And there's other ones too here.

[00:29:09] I mean, like I said,

[00:29:09] you can head on over to nexepestpicture.com

[00:29:11] and take a look.

[00:29:12] There is Elizabeth Taylor of The Lost Tapes.

[00:29:14] There's Once Upon a Time, Michelle LeGrande.

[00:29:19] I mean, there's a lot of really good stuff here

[00:29:21] that you all should definitely check out.

[00:29:23] Can't possibly go through all of them right now,

[00:29:25] but it's one of those things where

[00:29:28] I know everybody tends to pay attention

[00:29:29] to the in-competition lineup it can,

[00:29:32] but it's all these additional sections

[00:29:34] and events that they add

[00:29:36] that just really rounds out the whole experience

[00:29:38] and is what makes it the biggest film festival

[00:29:41] in the entire world.

[00:29:42] Yeah, I like that we get these other titles here

[00:29:44] that as you said, Matt,

[00:29:45] they don't have the same level of attention

[00:29:49] that the main competition does,

[00:29:51] but there's some interesting stuff here

[00:29:52] to seek out as well.

[00:29:54] All right, additionally this past week,

[00:29:57] we got the announcement from

[00:29:59] the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

[00:30:02] that they have instituted new rules

[00:30:04] and campaign promotional regulations

[00:30:06] for the 97 Academy Awards.

[00:30:09] Now, upon first glance,

[00:30:12] this did not seem to be all that groundbreaking to me.

[00:30:17] I did not see anything that caught my eye in alarming way,

[00:30:22] but Will, as you pointed out on social media

[00:30:25] upon reviewing some of this announcement,

[00:30:29] there were some things that you pointed out

[00:30:31] with certain examples of the past

[00:30:33] that could have been different

[00:30:34] if these rules were in place.

[00:30:36] Yeah, I think one of the big ones is that

[00:30:40] for a long time,

[00:30:42] the music branches had this pretty inexplicable rule

[00:30:46] that you can only submit,

[00:30:50] you'll dequeue a film if it has more than two composers

[00:30:56] and they aren't all submitted as a single team.

[00:30:59] And the way the rule has been enforced

[00:31:02] has been enforced selectively.

[00:31:04] A lot of people thought Soul would either get dequeued

[00:31:07] or they would have to drop either Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross

[00:31:10] or John Batiste off the ticket.

[00:31:12] And I guess the music branch that you chose

[00:31:14] not to enforce that rule,

[00:31:16] but things like The Revenant, for example,

[00:31:19] in years past,

[00:31:20] and I think Top Gun Maverick most recently

[00:31:24] have run into this issue of,

[00:31:27] oh no, we can't have a certain number of...

[00:31:30] Because it would have been Hans Zimmer,

[00:31:32] Lauren Balfe and Lady Gaga, right?

[00:31:34] Lady Gaga, yeah.

[00:31:36] So that is something I think is overdue for a change

[00:31:40] because it's frankly a stupid rule.

[00:31:42] I mean, especially nowadays,

[00:31:44] there are a lot of films whose compositions

[00:31:47] are the result of collaborations

[00:31:50] between a lot of different artists.

[00:31:53] And then with that also,

[00:31:55] the Academy, they keep trying to make this shortlist

[00:31:59] system work for original score.

[00:32:02] And I think it has worked in the sense that we've seen less

[00:32:06] of the branch just going for their favorites.

[00:32:09] You know, we've seen Desplad and Newman

[00:32:10] show up far less than they used to.

[00:32:13] But I think the shortlist also every year results

[00:32:17] in kind of surprising films,

[00:32:19] never even having a chance to get nominated.

[00:32:21] So they've expanded that to 20 films from 15.

[00:32:26] That'll be on the preliminary list of scores

[00:32:29] that get voted down to five.

[00:32:30] And I don't know that that'll have a serious impact,

[00:32:33] but it'll be interesting to see what happens there.

[00:32:35] One thing that confused me a little bit

[00:32:38] because I kept thinking of Flea most recently

[00:32:40] was this ruling that they announced saying,

[00:32:43] animated films submitted in international feature

[00:32:46] are now eligible for consideration

[00:32:49] in animated feature film

[00:32:51] if eligibility requirements outlined

[00:32:53] for both categories are met.

[00:32:55] Wasn't that already something that was in place?

[00:32:59] Well, this one I think from my understanding

[00:33:02] it sounds like the rule is mower towards

[00:33:05] if an animated movie is submitted

[00:33:08] for the international feature,

[00:33:10] it doesn't the release dates for it

[00:33:13] can be the same for the international one

[00:33:16] because international feature as we might talk about

[00:33:19] has different windows in terms of when a movie

[00:33:21] has to be released in its country

[00:33:23] versus the United States.

[00:33:25] And I think if you were being submitted

[00:33:26] for animated feature before

[00:33:29] you had to be released within the US

[00:33:32] in that certain time period.

[00:33:33] But if you're submitting for both

[00:33:35] you can use your home country's release date

[00:33:38] even though that might not match up

[00:33:39] with the US release date.

[00:33:41] I believe that is what they're saying here.

[00:33:44] And that ties into this other rule change here

[00:33:47] which is there's a new eligibility period now

[00:33:49] for international feature film

[00:33:51] which is running from November 1st of 2023.

[00:33:56] So that's already passed up until September 30th of 2024.

[00:34:02] Yeah.

[00:34:03] And I think this one though,

[00:34:05] this seems like it's actually just a return

[00:34:07] to what it used to be

[00:34:08] because I remember international feature

[00:34:10] did not have a January through December release date.

[00:34:14] It was like what they're describing here.

[00:34:17] And I think they changed that with the pandemic

[00:34:21] when they first extended the Oscar window

[00:34:23] and then they moved it to a January to December timeframe.

[00:34:29] But I think this is an attempt to get back

[00:34:32] to the original timeline that they had before

[00:34:35] which you can argue whether or not that makes sense

[00:34:37] but I think this is what they're doing now.

[00:34:40] But is there like anything in recent memory

[00:34:42] as an example that you can cite

[00:34:44] as something that would have been impacted by this?

[00:34:49] I'm not sure.

[00:34:50] I don't know what some of those release dates were.

[00:34:52] So yeah, this has always been kind of weird to me.

[00:34:56] I'm not exactly sure why they like this particular timeframe

[00:35:01] but as far as I know nothing would have been impacted

[00:35:04] but I'm not sure.

[00:35:06] Yeah.

[00:35:08] As far as the theatrical eligibility requirements,

[00:35:14] this one's very interesting

[00:35:16] because this seems to me like this is in direct reference

[00:35:21] to streamers out there who are not giving their films

[00:35:25] full theatrical releases at this time.

[00:35:28] And there's a lot of bullet points here

[00:35:31] but I'm gonna do my best to summarize as much as I can.

[00:35:35] Upon the completion of the initial qualifying run

[00:35:37] which is currently defined as a one week theatrical release

[00:35:40] in one of the six US qualifying cities,

[00:35:44] the film must meet the following additional

[00:35:48] theatrical standards for best picture eligibility now.

[00:35:51] They must have an expanded theatrical run

[00:35:53] of seven days consecutive or non-consecutive

[00:35:57] in 10 of the top 50 US markets no later

[00:36:02] than 45 days after the initial release in 2024.

[00:36:08] For late in the year films with expansions

[00:36:12] after January 10th of 2025,

[00:36:15] distributors must submit release plans

[00:36:17] to the Academy for Verification.

[00:36:19] Release plans for late in the year films

[00:36:21] must include a planned expanded theatrical run

[00:36:24] as described above to be completed no later

[00:36:27] than 2024 of 2025.

[00:36:30] I'm sorry, January 24th of 2025.

[00:36:32] Non-US territory releases can count towards

[00:36:36] two of the 10 required markets.

[00:36:41] And qualifying non-US markets include

[00:36:43] the top 15 international theatrical markets

[00:36:46] plus the home territory for the film.

[00:36:50] So this also is having an impact too

[00:36:54] on the distribution of international films too.

[00:36:58] Well, I do wonder if these theatrical standards

[00:37:02] will set a precedent among streamers

[00:37:05] and what their strategies are

[00:37:08] for releasing their films.

[00:37:10] Yeah, because what it says to me at this point is

[00:37:15] you can't just do one week in New York and LA

[00:37:18] and that's it.

[00:37:21] For example, when Netflix released Glass Onion,

[00:37:25] A Knives Out Mystery as far wide

[00:37:29] as they felt was appropriate at the time,

[00:37:33] we all collectively agreed

[00:37:35] that that was a positive thing that they were doing.

[00:37:39] And I think they could have even made more money

[00:37:42] had they allowed it to stay in theaters longer

[00:37:45] and if they had also brought it

[00:37:47] to more markets than they did.

[00:37:50] I think these new rules are going to allow

[00:37:54] for specifically, I'm thinking of Netflix

[00:37:56] because Amazon and Apple have shown

[00:38:02] that for films that they think are best picture worthy

[00:38:04] they will give them theatrical releases on this level.

[00:38:08] But Netflix has been the one major holdout

[00:38:10] I've noticed over the last couple of years.

[00:38:12] This seems to me like we're gonna see more examples

[00:38:15] of that kind of Glass Onion theatrical rollout

[00:38:19] if not even more so.

[00:38:21] Well, for their major contenders for sure.

[00:38:23] Yeah.

[00:38:23] Well, didn't Netflix's new CEO literally like

[00:38:29] four weeks ago say basically like

[00:38:32] we're gonna pull back on even what we were doing.

[00:38:34] We are committed to streaming

[00:38:36] and that's what we're doing with Knives Out

[00:38:39] and things like that.

[00:38:40] We were considering whether or not

[00:38:42] we were going to be maybe semi theatrical release group

[00:38:46] but that's, so I don't know.

[00:38:49] And I think it'll take time to see

[00:38:53] really what that looks like longterm with Netflix

[00:38:56] because they still have films

[00:38:58] that were clearly designed to be awards players

[00:39:02] in the pipeline coming out this year.

[00:39:04] I think the piano lesson, for example.

[00:39:06] But we may see this question of well,

[00:39:11] Netflix just isn't gonna focus as much on releasing

[00:39:14] the types of films that are designed

[00:39:15] to win awards in the future.

[00:39:17] And therefore we won't need to worry

[00:39:20] about having theatrical releases in years to come.

[00:39:24] I don't know, it's interesting to see

[00:39:25] with Ampest cracking down on this

[00:39:27] how that's going to clash with the doubling down

[00:39:33] of the commitment to streaming that we've gotten

[00:39:35] from the new people in charge at Netflix.

[00:39:38] I do think that their support for our tour driven films

[00:39:43] that are specifically made to win awards,

[00:39:46] I think we're going to see a decrease

[00:39:50] in the number of films that are released

[00:39:52] around like end of year, for example.

[00:39:54] I don't think they're gonna completely go away though.

[00:39:57] No, no, but you know, there for a minute

[00:40:00] there was very much, and we already saw

[00:40:02] not that that Catherine Bigelow movie

[00:40:04] was going to be an awards contender

[00:40:07] if you've read the source material,

[00:40:09] but it's notable that this is a studio

[00:40:12] who was trying to bag any auto or filmmaker they could

[00:40:16] a couple of years ago and was green lighting right and left

[00:40:19] and they said, never mind, we're not interested in this.

[00:40:21] And they shuffled that project away.

[00:40:23] And that's obviously a multi Oscar winning director

[00:40:28] that they just kind of gave the shaft to.

[00:40:29] So I do think we're gonna see a shift there.

[00:40:35] And it's also a shame too, because, you know,

[00:40:37] say what you will about the fact

[00:40:38] that they didn't give their films proper theatrical releases.

[00:40:42] I very much enjoyed this era, if it is over,

[00:40:46] hypothetically of Netflix giving so many of these

[00:40:51] filmmakers who couldn't turn to the other studios

[00:40:53] for financing an opportunity to see

[00:40:56] their artistic visions get made.

[00:41:00] Sometimes they were great, sometimes they were really poor,

[00:41:03] sometimes they were worse than poor, blonde.

[00:41:07] But, you know, I admire so much that they gave

[00:41:12] these creatives a chance.

[00:41:14] And if that's going to be decreasing or, you know,

[00:41:21] I don't want to say going away like I said before,

[00:41:23] but it's sad, I think, because there are very limited

[00:41:27] options out there as is for someone like a Scorsese

[00:41:32] or a Jane Campion, you know, to turn to the studios

[00:41:37] for financing or for distribution for a Vendor next project.

[00:41:42] Yeah, absolutely agree.

[00:41:43] I mean, I think we've all been very vocal in this podcast

[00:41:46] and I want to appreciate the work

[00:41:47] that Netflix has enabled to be released

[00:41:50] in these last eight years or so.

[00:41:53] Yeah, I mean, that just seems like a natural progression

[00:41:58] of what the Academy would be requiring

[00:42:00] in terms of a theatrical release.

[00:42:02] And yeah, it's not surprising and I'm sure

[00:42:06] that we will see some movement from the streamers

[00:42:10] on this for sure.

[00:42:12] Okay, so what I want to do now is I want to head on over

[00:42:14] to our trailers for this week.

[00:42:17] We got some really fun ones to talk about here.

[00:42:21] First up with Deadpool and Wolverine,

[00:42:25] which is going to be released in theaters on July 26th

[00:42:29] directed by Sean Levy.

[00:42:31] It reunites Ryan Reynolds with him

[00:42:33] following their collaboration together

[00:42:35] on Free Guy and the Adam Project.

[00:42:39] And you've got the returning Hugh Jackman

[00:42:44] as Wolverine Logan.

[00:42:46] Let's take a look at the trailer.

[00:42:47] Let's get some thoughts.

[00:42:48] I told you, you're not welcome here.

[00:42:50] You're not welcome anywhere.

[00:42:52] Now get the fuck out of my bar.

[00:42:53] Just give me one more drink and then I'll leave.

[00:42:57] Hi, peanut.

[00:42:58] I'm gonna need you to come with me right now.

[00:43:01] Look lady, I'm not interested.

[00:43:03] All right, well, I'm sort of on the tick tick

[00:43:05] so Opsie Daisy, can you hear me?

[00:43:08] Oh, whiskey dick of the claws.

[00:43:11] It's quite common in Wolverine's over 40.

[00:43:13] You don't want this.

[00:43:14] Unless you want to take a deep breath

[00:43:15] through your fucking forehead,

[00:43:17] I suggest you reconsider.

[00:43:18] Looks fine.

[00:43:19] I gotta say, I was a little underwhelmed by this trailer.

[00:43:22] Yeah.

[00:43:23] Look, I'll see it and I'll take the word for it

[00:43:27] when they say they're not undoing the end of Logan

[00:43:30] even though it's kind of riffing on that.

[00:43:32] It seems to me that they're doing

[00:43:34] that whole multi-verse.

[00:43:37] This is like a different version of the character,

[00:43:39] not the version who died at the end of Logan.

[00:43:42] That's what I'm getting from this.

[00:43:44] Yeah, well, I mean, they have this whole thing

[00:43:46] about this version of Wolverine failed

[00:43:48] to save his universe.

[00:43:50] And I guess that's why he has the yellow costume.

[00:43:53] Right.

[00:43:54] I think it's a combination of the fact that,

[00:43:57] I don't know, it doesn't necessarily seem

[00:44:00] to have the punch of the humor of a diverse two,

[00:44:04] but also I know that there's annoying discourse

[00:44:09] about people misusing the term color grading.

[00:44:14] That's not the issue.

[00:44:15] The issue is that it just generally looks flat visually.

[00:44:18] And I think that's in part because Sean Levy

[00:44:21] is he's a good producer, but to me,

[00:44:24] he's never been a particularly gifted visual director.

[00:44:29] Not to mention too, this is a movie

[00:44:31] that is literally fitting within the MCU.

[00:44:33] So to me, it looks like every other MCU film.

[00:44:36] Yeah, I mean, right.

[00:44:38] It is kind of, I mean, it is definitely more desaturated

[00:44:43] but it's not even that.

[00:44:44] It's just the look of the action sequences,

[00:44:47] they seem very flat in terms of how they're staged

[00:44:50] and you compare it to what,

[00:44:52] and obviously I'm seeing two minutes out of the movie.

[00:44:54] So I'm sure we'll have people comment saying,

[00:44:58] you know, you've already made up your mind.

[00:44:59] No, I haven't.

[00:45:00] I like most of David Leitch's stuff though

[00:45:04] and I liked what he did with Deadpool

[00:45:07] and this seems like a bit of a step down already

[00:45:10] in terms of the some of the action sequences

[00:45:13] with Sean Levy directing.

[00:45:15] So we'll see, I don't know.

[00:45:18] I just did not really tickle my fancy

[00:45:22] and apparently they're doing reshoots again through May.

[00:45:28] On these big budget movies, you know,

[00:45:31] that isn't necessarily a bad sign.

[00:45:34] You know, we'll see but yeah, I don't know.

[00:45:37] I was actually really looking forward to this one

[00:45:39] and that trailer just did not really do it for me.

[00:45:42] Yeah, this trailer did nothing for me.

[00:45:44] Like I watched it, two and a half minutes went by

[00:45:47] and I felt like it just passed right through me

[00:45:50] and I did not care and you're right.

[00:45:53] Well, I think the direction of this one

[00:45:55] just does not look all that inspired

[00:45:57] as one would expect from him unfortunately.

[00:46:01] And I am just also one of those people

[00:46:03] that's getting a little tired of Ryan Reynolds

[00:46:07] and his shtick that it just seems like he's been playing

[00:46:10] Deadpool ever since 2016.

[00:46:12] And I'm just like, I'm so done.

[00:46:13] And I have no attachment to Wolverine

[00:46:16] after Logan now at this point too.

[00:46:18] So I know that a lot of people are looking forward to it

[00:46:21] and I'm sure it'll be entertaining on some level

[00:46:23] but just my own personal anticipation of this movie,

[00:46:27] especially after watching this trailer

[00:46:28] is just like very, very low.

[00:46:31] Yeah, I'm not really sold on this trailer either.

[00:46:36] I wasn't crazy about the Deadpool movies to begin with.

[00:46:39] I have always enjoyed Hugh Jackman as Wolverine

[00:46:42] and he does like pretty decent here

[00:46:45] but my excitement is not really there for this.

[00:46:50] I will say this, my favorite element of this trailer by far

[00:46:54] is anything and everything involving Hugh Jackman

[00:46:57] partly because I am glad to just see him

[00:47:00] reprising the role again, but also too, he looks great.

[00:47:05] Like, I mean, physically he looks fantastic.

[00:47:09] He's not doing the old man Logan like makeup

[00:47:11] so he actually looks in my opinion more youthful here

[00:47:15] than he did in that film.

[00:47:17] I just think he's gonna bring a certain dynamic to this

[00:47:22] that's going to freshen up the Deadpool formula

[00:47:25] in a way I think that this franchise

[00:47:27] desperately needed at this point

[00:47:30] because yeah, you do Deadpool 2 and you can say,

[00:47:33] oh, it's bigger, more of the same compared to the first film

[00:47:36] but then where do you go with that for a third film?

[00:47:39] And this is exactly what this needed

[00:47:41] in order for it to feel different than the previous two.

[00:47:47] I do agree though, everything with Reynolds himself here,

[00:47:51] his line delivery, although I will say

[00:47:53] the one line delivery that did make me laugh

[00:47:55] was the final one regarding the cocaine

[00:47:57] where he's like, but I can't.

[00:47:59] I don't, that was really, really funny

[00:48:02] but other than that though, yeah,

[00:48:04] every time he opens his mouth in this trailer

[00:48:07] I hope the jokes land better

[00:48:11] when I see the final film itself

[00:48:13] but a lot of the stuff here in terms of,

[00:48:16] sorry, but a lot of the dialogue here feels just very

[00:48:22] teenager try hard.

[00:48:24] It feels like we're cursing for the sake of cursing

[00:48:27] and I don't know, it just sounds

[00:48:28] a little juvenile to me at times

[00:48:30] and I don't mean it like, like I get it.

[00:48:32] I know that the character is a juvenile character.

[00:48:34] I've seen the first two films people

[00:48:36] and I did like the first two films quite a bit actually

[00:48:41] but there comes a point where, you know,

[00:48:44] the writing for me needs to be a little bit more clever

[00:48:50] rather than oh, we can curse in an MCU film.

[00:48:53] Look at us with all the blood and the cursing.

[00:48:55] Isn't this great for an MCU film?

[00:48:57] That's what this feels like to me.

[00:48:58] Yeah, it's also kind of part of the course

[00:49:00] for Deadpool, I find.

[00:49:03] Yeah.

[00:49:04] When Kevin Feige a few weeks ago

[00:49:06] at CinemaCon made his comment, he's like,

[00:49:09] and this one looks pretty fucking great

[00:49:12] and we can say that because this one's rated R.

[00:49:15] I was like, oh God damn it, this is.

[00:49:17] Exactly.

[00:49:18] Okay.

[00:49:19] Like have it make sense for the story?

[00:49:21] Don't just do it for the sake of doing it

[00:49:22] because you can.

[00:49:24] It's just, yeah.

[00:49:27] Otherwise, Madonna.

[00:49:29] Yeah.

[00:49:31] I like the needle drop of Madonna always.

[00:49:35] But added some spark to it, yeah.

[00:49:38] Yeah, also curious to know what do you think

[00:49:40] is on the other side of the portal

[00:49:42] that they're jumping through at the end?

[00:49:43] Cause clearly it's CGI wide it out

[00:49:47] to not reveal a spoiler to us

[00:49:53] and that is the sound of everyone saying they don't care.

[00:49:56] Well, I know that it seems like the prevailing theory online

[00:49:59] or the speculation is that it's the finale of end game.

[00:50:04] That's wild to me.

[00:50:05] Holy shit, that's wild.

[00:50:07] I can't.

[00:50:08] Yeah.

[00:50:09] But unfortunately, I don't care.

[00:50:14] I'm so sorry, but I struggle to have an interest

[00:50:18] in what is on the other side of that

[00:50:20] because I doubt it will be a particular interest to me.

[00:50:23] Yeah.

[00:50:24] Yeah, like I said, I like the first two Deadpool movies.

[00:50:26] So there's there is a part of me that does care,

[00:50:29] but I will admit I am probably the least excited I've been

[00:50:34] for a film involving this character yet.

[00:50:37] Although, man, I'm sure I'm sure

[00:50:40] Jackman is going to make the most of it.

[00:50:41] Like that I'm pretty sure of.

[00:50:44] I really don't think he would come back

[00:50:47] if it didn't mean something to him.

[00:50:51] Sure.

[00:50:52] So we can believe that.

[00:50:54] Yeah, I don't know, man.

[00:50:56] You saw the father too.

[00:50:58] Yeah.

[00:50:59] All right.

[00:51:00] Maybe maybe his career needed to bounce back.

[00:51:02] The man just got divorced.

[00:51:03] I'm not saying that those Alamoni payments need some help.

[00:51:07] I'm just making an observation.

[00:51:09] Damn it.

[00:51:10] All right, guys.

[00:51:12] All right.

[00:51:13] All right.

[00:51:14] So our next trailer here is for the Watchers,

[00:51:18] which is being directed by M. Night Shyamalan's daughter,

[00:51:22] Ishana Night Shyamalan.

[00:51:24] This is her feature directorial debut starring Dakota Fanning

[00:51:28] coming to Feuders from Warner Brothers on June 7th.

[00:51:31] Let's take a look at this one and we'll give some thoughts.

[00:51:33] I'm going out tonight.

[00:51:35] Trying not to die.

[00:51:36] And I thought you couldn't talk.

[00:51:39] I don't like to listen to rock and roll.

[00:51:52] Don't look at me like that.

[00:51:54] It's just something I do sometimes.

[00:52:14] And, you know, I'm kind of interested in this,

[00:52:22] but I also don't have that much expectation for it either.

[00:52:27] It's sort of a weird feeling I have about this movie.

[00:52:29] The weird feeling I have about this is that

[00:52:32] I've watched this trailer now two times

[00:52:35] and I still don't fully understand exactly what is happening in the plot.

[00:52:40] Yeah.

[00:52:41] Yeah.

[00:52:42] And I feel so much of this is just coasting on

[00:52:46] Vibes and the name M. Night Shyamalan.

[00:52:50] Like, if I didn't know any better, I would say the guy was directing this

[00:52:53] and I would have no idea that it actually was his daughter

[00:52:57] that was in the director's chair here.

[00:52:59] Now, she has worked as a second unit director on her father's films,

[00:53:04] Old Knock at the Cabin.

[00:53:06] She wrote and directed episodes for Servant on Apple TV+.

[00:53:10] So she isn't like a novice to this.

[00:53:13] This just happens to be her first feature directorial effort.

[00:53:17] But I don't know.

[00:53:19] It's like one of those things where

[00:53:22] I wish I wished it was more clarity in the trailer as to like what exactly this is

[00:53:27] other than what seems to me like,

[00:53:31] let me put it this way.

[00:53:33] If she wasn't his daughter,

[00:53:35] I would say probably whoever this director is

[00:53:38] and whatever this movie ends up being,

[00:53:40] it looks like it's trying to riff on M. Night Shyamalan.

[00:53:44] And that's just not something I want to.

[00:53:47] I don't want her career to be in her father's shadow.

[00:53:51] You know, I really want these children.

[00:53:56] Like, you know, like we were talking earlier about

[00:53:59] Caitlin Cronenberg, like I want them to do their own thing, you know?

[00:54:04] Yeah, although,

[00:54:06] crediting yourself with still the night in your name,

[00:54:11] I mean, that already says that you kind of want that association.

[00:54:14] So I may want to be separated,

[00:54:17] but it's sort of hard to,

[00:54:18] especially with the marketing that we're seeing at the moment.

[00:54:21] And yeah, I agree with you, Matt,

[00:54:23] that I watched this trailer and I don't really know

[00:54:26] what is actually kind of supposed to be about,

[00:54:29] which that's always a fine line

[00:54:31] because you don't want to know too much about a movie

[00:54:33] because you still want to be interested in discovering things,

[00:54:35] but you also want to at least know what you're getting into.

[00:54:39] And yeah, this trailer kind of sells an atmosphere

[00:54:43] without much concrete information about what will actually be seeing.

[00:54:48] And as I said, that intrigues me,

[00:54:51] but somewhat at a distance at the same time.

[00:54:54] Yeah, it doesn't have that hook of clarity.

[00:54:57] Although I do kind of like the idea of the mirror setting

[00:55:02] that we're kind of seeing early on where you can

[00:55:05] play around with the sound work in those environments.

[00:55:07] I wonder if this will be more of a showcase of sound design.

[00:55:12] And I don't know, this might just be because I have

[00:55:15] Luca Guadagnino in my head,

[00:55:17] but that shot of Dakota fanny against the mirror

[00:55:20] just brought me back to Guadagnino's Suspiria.

[00:55:26] Yeah, I will say this, it looks great.

[00:55:29] I don't know when Warner Brothers started uploading

[00:55:31] their trailers to YouTube and 4K,

[00:55:33] but it makes all the difference to me now

[00:55:35] when I watch their trailers,

[00:55:36] because their movies just look 10 times better now

[00:55:39] whenever I view them.

[00:55:41] And this is one where I say to myself,

[00:55:43] you know, I particularly would not be praising

[00:55:46] the visuals of a modern horror movie like this,

[00:55:50] you know, that often,

[00:55:51] but from the visual standpoint,

[00:55:53] and like you guys said,

[00:55:54] maybe this is a showcase for sound,

[00:55:56] I definitely feel like it will have the chops

[00:55:59] from a technical standpoint,

[00:56:02] but story and characters where this is going to,

[00:56:05] you know, succeed or fail,

[00:56:07] and there's not much else to go off of,

[00:56:11] like I said, you know.

[00:56:13] Does anyone here even watch Servant?

[00:56:15] I've never seen an episode of that show.

[00:56:17] Not a single episode.

[00:56:19] I've seen some of it.

[00:56:20] It just, yeah, I haven't consistently stuck with the show.

[00:56:24] I mean, it's set up in treating mysteries

[00:56:27] and it's consistently well shot and directed.

[00:56:31] You got Rupert Grint struggling with an American accent.

[00:56:35] To me, this also suffers from, you know,

[00:56:38] Im Knight himself having just a bomb trailer released

[00:56:43] a week or so ago.

[00:56:44] Oh my God, yeah.

[00:56:45] It's so funny to me that these,

[00:56:48] this family is going to have such a fun summer together

[00:56:52] with her film releasing in June,

[00:56:54] his film releasing in August,

[00:56:56] and his film also includes his other daughter

[00:56:59] in a starring role as well.

[00:57:01] So great, great time to be in the household

[00:57:04] of the Knight-Chamelons.

[00:57:08] One everything I just want to call out to,

[00:57:09] and I know this here, the score for this movie

[00:57:12] is being done by Abel,

[00:57:15] he can never get his last name right,

[00:57:17] Korzen Iowsky.

[00:57:21] He's the composer for Nocturnal Animals,

[00:57:23] Till, Emily.

[00:57:25] He always does very interesting work.

[00:57:28] Oh, and Dakota Fanning.

[00:57:31] I know that she's been around.

[00:57:33] I feel like I just have not seen her

[00:57:36] that often lately.

[00:57:38] Yeah, this would have seemed that way.

[00:57:39] It feels like we've been seeing a lot more of L these days,

[00:57:43] but not so much of her.

[00:57:44] Yeah, like I remember she popped up in Equalizer 3

[00:57:47] and I was like, who is that?

[00:57:49] And oh my God, that's Dakota Fanning.

[00:57:52] And then she had like one scene

[00:57:55] in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

[00:57:57] Yes, she did.

[00:57:58] And everybody made a big deal about it that she was in the movie

[00:58:00] and then she was like barely in the movie.

[00:58:04] Who knows? Maybe this will be a

[00:58:06] sort of quasi comeback for her?

[00:58:09] I don't know.

[00:58:10] We'll see.

[00:58:11] All right, and then our final trailer for this week

[00:58:13] is for Blink Twice,

[00:58:14] which is the feature directorial debut for Zoe Kravitz.

[00:58:18] And it is starring Channing Tatum, Naomi Ackie,

[00:58:21] Simon Rex, Haley Joel Osment,

[00:58:24] Adria Arjona, Kyle McLaughlin,

[00:58:27] Alia Chalkot, Christian Slater and Gina Davis.

[00:58:30] It is going to be released in theaters on August 23rd.

[00:58:35] Here we go.

[00:58:36] So everybody's dead.

[00:58:40] How about we start at the beginning?

[00:58:44] Okay, here we go.

[00:58:46] Jess, Frida. This is my childhood buddy, Cody.

[00:58:49] I'm Vick, my left and right hand man.

[00:58:53] Perfect.

[00:58:54] Tom?

[00:58:55] Hi!

[00:58:56] All right, who did this?

[00:58:57] This is Frida, Sarah. Sarah Frida.

[00:58:59] Get the illness. Thank you.

[00:59:02] This is our resident wonder boy, Heather Camilla.

[00:59:05] Ah!

[00:59:06] Hey, what's up man?

[00:59:08] I don't know who that is.

[00:59:09] We're going to my island for a few days.

[00:59:11] Do you guys want to come?

[00:59:13] This is crazy.

[00:59:17] Did we just jet off to a billionaire's island with a bunch of strangers?

[00:59:20] No, he's not a stranger.

[00:59:21] He's Slater King.

[00:59:22] Okay, remember when I was telling you guys earlier about

[00:59:25] like social satires that are like, you know, kind of riffing on the menu

[00:59:30] and have like this dark twisted element to it?

[00:59:33] This is exactly what I was like thinking of.

[00:59:36] And I got to say this might be one of the most surprising trailers of the year for me so far.

[00:59:41] I had no idea that this was coming.

[00:59:43] I didn't know what this was when I initially clicked on it.

[00:59:45] I actually thought at first it was going to be some sort of a comedy

[00:59:49] because you put Channing Tatum on an island somewhere and I just assume it's a comedy at first.

[00:59:54] And it used to be called Pussy Island.

[00:59:56] Yeah, exactly.

[00:59:57] It does another thing too.

[00:59:59] I was like, when this trailer took this like dark turn all of a sudden

[01:00:03] I was like, whoa, like what are we in for here?

[01:00:06] So this actually kind of snuck up on me and excited me in a way that I was like,

[01:00:12] I love these twisted dark comedies.

[01:00:16] And I'm very much now looking forward to having a fun time with this this summer.

[01:00:20] Yeah, it was kind of half expecting Daniel Craig's Ben O'Blong to show up.

[01:00:26] They kind of got some knives out glass onion vibes there a little bit.

[01:00:30] But I agree.

[01:00:31] I think the tonal shift in the trailer kind of threw me in a really good way.

[01:00:35] It looks like it could be really fun and interesting.

[01:00:38] And it's got a great cast.

[01:00:40] Yeah, there's also like some standout images too from the trailer.

[01:00:43] Like I still have them in my mind like all the ladies with the blue facial creams on their faces.

[01:00:49] Just even like to still frame of them just like all turning their heads looking into like the camera.

[01:00:54] I was like, that's that's a pretty chilling, you know, image.

[01:00:58] And there's a couple of other elements in this trailer too.

[01:01:00] They go by pretty quickly at times, but it just has me thinking, man,

[01:01:05] I have a feeling, a pretty strong feeling that this movie has

[01:01:11] maybe even a darker sinister side to it.

[01:01:14] Then even what the trailer is letting on something tells me there's probably something

[01:01:20] concealed in this that might be shocking and incredibly fucked up, you know,

[01:01:26] outside of just what's presented here on the surface, which is already dark and disturbing as is.

[01:01:32] I don't know, something tells me there might be a big reveal in this one.

[01:01:36] You definitely get a sense of that while watching this trailer and it does sell a really compelling atmosphere.

[01:01:43] And I agree that it feels like something might be getting held back,

[01:01:47] but I think what it's trying to establish here anyway is really interesting.

[01:01:53] And I feel like there is going to be some comedy here.

[01:01:58] It just seems like the premise and those actors will naturally give way to it,

[01:02:01] but in a very unsettling way.

[01:02:05] So yeah, I'm with you, Matt.

[01:02:07] This one wasn't really on my radar initially, but I think after this first look at it,

[01:02:12] I'm like really, really engaged by this material so far.

[01:02:17] Just a scene too where Chai and Tatum is like introducing all the people at his party.

[01:02:22] For me, it was like a who's who of, oh my God,

[01:02:26] like that guy, oh my God, that person.

[01:02:29] And these are not people that you would expect to see leading a film,

[01:02:33] but this supporting cast has a bunch of people who I think are very strong

[01:02:38] and exciting players to formulate an ensemble here.

[01:02:42] I mean, how could you not get giddy and excited when you saw a Haley Joel Osment pop up?

[01:02:47] I mean, come on.

[01:02:50] Simon Rex?

[01:02:51] I was like, yes, more Simon Rex please.

[01:02:54] Thank you.

[01:02:55] Yes, always.

[01:02:56] After Hitman, Adria Ajona?

[01:02:58] Yes, definitely.

[01:03:00] Yeah.

[01:03:01] Gina Davis?

[01:03:03] Please, Christian Slater, like give it to me.

[01:03:05] Just give me this movie.

[01:03:07] Yeah, the cast is incredible.

[01:03:09] And whatever Chai and Tatum is doing too.

[01:03:11] I mean, I've said this before, that man did a complete 180 on me.

[01:03:18] I changed my entire opinion on him in the early 2010s with 21 Jump Street and Foxcatcher.

[01:03:24] And I feel like with every new release, this guy is revealing more and more layers

[01:03:29] of what he's capable of.

[01:03:31] And God damn it, I just appreciate it so much when a pretty face

[01:03:34] is willing to just go big and go bold.

[01:03:38] I think he's really one of the most underrated actors we have today.

[01:03:42] I feel like so many people still put him in one particular box,

[01:03:45] but he can really do a variety of performances.

[01:03:49] And I think he excels in pretty much all of them.

[01:03:52] So yeah, I'm super excited to see him in this role because I think it will give us another opportunity

[01:03:58] to see something that might even be a little bit different than what we've gotten before.

[01:04:02] And I do find him to be a very exciting actor.

[01:04:05] All right.

[01:04:06] And now for this week's poll.

[01:04:12] We asked everyone which film are they most looking forward to seeing from the Tribeca Film Festival?

[01:04:20] Now, I've said this before on this podcast.

[01:04:24] I will say it again.

[01:04:25] Tribeca Festival, not my favorite festival.

[01:04:28] And according to the MVP Film Community, not their favorite festival either.

[01:04:32] This was actually one of our least participated polls,

[01:04:37] which tells me that there's not a lot of the excitement here for the Tribeca Film Festival.

[01:04:41] But we do have a top 10 here that was still gathered together from your votes.

[01:04:46] So if it does be that did vote on this poll, thank you very much.

[01:04:49] Josh, I know it's Slim Pickings.

[01:04:52] I get it, man.

[01:04:54] But is there anything playing at Tribeca, even something that's premiered at another film festival

[01:04:58] that you're like, yeah, I'll watch that?

[01:05:01] I think for me, what I said previously was I'm your Venus,

[01:05:07] which was a documentary about Venus Extravaganza, one of the participants of Paris' Burning.

[01:05:12] I think from what I have seen that probably is the one that I'm the most interested to check out.

[01:05:18] Nadia Talamante, what about you?

[01:05:20] The one that caught my eye is called Swimming Home by, it's directed and written by Justin Anderson

[01:05:26] with Christopher Abbott and Mackenzie Davis.

[01:05:29] And it's the way that is described, it's this sexy drama on the Mediterranean coast.

[01:05:36] So that sounds intriguing with that cast.

[01:05:40] I also want to mention a movie called Jazzy.

[01:05:43] Yes.

[01:05:44] It's directed by Marissa Malts, which is the follow up for The Unknown Country.

[01:05:49] Both of these movies also have Lily Gladstone, so I'm really excited to see that.

[01:05:55] Yes, absolutely. Lily Gladstone continuing to get work post-Killers of the Flower Moon.

[01:06:00] We'd love to see it.

[01:06:01] Yeah.

[01:06:02] Now we do.

[01:06:03] Will Mavity.

[01:06:04] Yeah, I was going to say Jazzy because I like seeing little more Lily Gladstone.

[01:06:09] I don't know.

[01:06:11] There's...

[01:06:12] Oh, you know what?

[01:06:13] I know what is one for you, Will, is Kill.

[01:06:16] Yes.

[01:06:17] Oh, yeah.

[01:06:18] I can't wait for that one.

[01:06:20] That's the other one that I really cannot wait to see.

[01:06:22] Nadia and I saw this one at Toronto. This movie fucking rules.

[01:06:27] Oh, I want to see it so bad.

[01:06:28] Yeah, you got to see it with the crowd too. It's so much fun.

[01:06:32] So the other one I will mention that I'm a little interested in is a documentary called Bad Actor Hollywood Ponzi Scheme.

[01:06:40] One of the actor Zachary Horowitz was desperate to make it as a movie star.

[01:06:45] The only thing stopping him was his lack of talent.

[01:06:49] Bad Actor Hollywood Ponzi Scheme is a juicy true story about deception, denial and its seductive promise of fame and fortune.

[01:06:56] I love seeing this town get played for fools by grifters.

[01:07:01] It happens all the time and documentaries like that are always fun.

[01:07:05] So that one sounds a little interesting.

[01:07:07] But yeah, Kill is what just the raid in a train.

[01:07:10] That looks awesome.

[01:07:11] And that is a very accurate description actually.

[01:07:14] Yep.

[01:07:15] And it's one of those things where it is all surface level.

[01:07:19] There's no depth. It's just balls to the wall, blood and guts, pure action.

[01:07:25] And oh my God, I was living for every second of it.

[01:07:29] One of the most badass leads in a movie I've seen in quite some time.

[01:07:35] This guy is indestructible. It's insane.

[01:07:37] Yeah, cool sign to that.

[01:07:40] For me, I am looking forward to seeing a film that premiered at Berlin, which I was not at.

[01:07:49] But we received word that it got a pretty good reception over there called Devil's Bath.

[01:07:55] It is from the directors of Good Night Mommy and the Lodge.

[01:08:00] And so if that alone doesn't get you excited, I don't know what will.

[01:08:05] But that's one that's definitely high on my radar here.

[01:08:09] Okay, let's see what the top 10 ended up being.

[01:08:13] Oh, well, that's disappointing.

[01:08:16] I don't normally say runners up, but the Devil's Bath is number 11.

[01:08:19] So I wish it made the top 10.

[01:08:23] All right, number 10.

[01:08:25] Number 10 is a movie called Sacramento, which I saw had Michael Sarah, Kristen Stewart

[01:08:34] and a few others starring in it.

[01:08:37] Michael, what's his name?

[01:08:39] Angerano.

[01:08:40] Yeah, Angerano.

[01:08:42] I think he's directing it, right?

[01:08:44] Yeah, he's writing, directing it and producing it as well.

[01:08:47] So yeah, much his movie.

[01:08:49] I like Michael Angerano.

[01:08:51] Yeah, and he co-wrote the screenplay with Chris Smith as well.

[01:08:54] Okay, number 10.

[01:08:56] I would have thought this would have been a little bit higher, but okay.

[01:08:59] Number nine is winter, spring, summer or fall.

[01:09:04] And this is the new Janet Ortega film.

[01:09:07] So I could see why this made the top 10.

[01:09:11] Tells the story of two teens who meet and fall in love over four days of the year.

[01:09:16] It's a pretty short time to fall in love, but okay, we'll go with it.

[01:09:19] Well, it's two teens.

[01:09:20] So yeah, that might as well be a lifetime for them.

[01:09:24] Number eight documentary film, Avicii, I'm Tim.

[01:09:29] Man, that's sad.

[01:09:32] I like Avicii's music so, so much.

[01:09:35] I can see why this also placed here.

[01:09:37] It's got the guy's name in the title.

[01:09:39] Super popular, really, really tragic, untimely death back in 2018 at the age of 28 years old.

[01:09:46] And even if you don't listen to house music, you've definitely heard this guy's music somewhere or another, I'm sure.

[01:09:53] So wake me up when it's all over.

[01:09:56] Yeah, that one was huge.

[01:09:57] Mm-hmm.

[01:09:58] Number seven is a movie I saw a can last year.

[01:10:01] It's finally coming out soon.

[01:10:03] It's playing at Tribeca.

[01:10:04] It's called Firebrand with Alicia Vikander and Jude Law.

[01:10:08] I know this movie did not get like the most positive reception.

[01:10:13] It's got pretty mixed reviews from what I could see.

[01:10:16] Yeah, wasn't the reception not that great for that movie?

[01:10:19] That's my perception of it.

[01:10:21] It's not, but like here's my selling point on this movie.

[01:10:26] It's nothing great.

[01:10:27] Okay, I want to be very clear about this.

[01:10:29] It's nothing great, but it reminded me of the stuff I used to love about Game of Thrones, Palace Intrigue and deception and drama.

[01:10:38] And Jude Law is playing basically like the most evil, despicable Henry VIII you could possibly imagine.

[01:10:47] And watching Jude Law just chew up the scenery was delightful for me because it just reminded me so much of how much I hated Joffrey in Game of Thrones.

[01:10:56] So I would say, you know, from that standpoint, like just don't go into expecting anything great.

[01:11:03] But if like, you know, I think if you like those elements of something like Game of Thrones, you might enjoy this.

[01:11:09] All right, number six is Kill.

[01:11:14] Nice.

[01:11:15] Nice.

[01:11:16] I dare not spoil a single kill in Kill for any of you.

[01:11:20] You got to just see it to believe it.

[01:11:22] Number five is a movie that played at Sundance that I was a massive fan of.

[01:11:27] I highly recommend you all check this one out when you get a chance to do so.

[01:11:30] It's called Necap.

[01:11:32] I've been hearing good things about that one.

[01:11:34] Yep, it is about the rise of the Belfast based hip hop trio also called Necap.

[01:11:40] Michael Fassbender has a supporting role in the film.

[01:11:44] It has this energy to it that very much reminded me of watching Trainspotting.

[01:11:51] Definitely, definitely recommend this one for people.

[01:11:55] Number four.

[01:11:58] Number four is Slave Play, not a movie, a play which is a documentary of writer Jeremy O'Harris as he workshops and minds Slave Play.

[01:12:13] Which was the provocative play that put him into the spotlight and features a new cast of young actors from New York's William Esper Studio.

[01:12:23] Looks like this is going to be an HBO documentary films production.

[01:12:27] That one wasn't really on my radar.

[01:12:29] Yeah, yeah, that wasn't on my radar initially, but I do know that play is very widely talked about.

[01:12:37] So I'm not surprised that it placed that highly on the poll here.

[01:12:41] Number three is a popular documentary from Sundance that I saw.

[01:12:46] I highly recommend people check this one out in a theater when they get a chance to see it, preferably in IMAX if it gets that kind of a release.

[01:12:54] Skywalkers, a love story.

[01:12:56] Yeah, I do really want to see that.

[01:12:59] Number two is a film that has by far the best title of any movie at playing in Tribeca,

[01:13:09] The Shallow Tale of a Writer who decided to write about a serial killer.

[01:13:14] Wow.

[01:13:15] Starring Steve Buscemi, Britt Lower and John Magaro.

[01:13:18] Yeah, that one also, like based on the title, it does tell you right there and then the actual premise sounded really interesting too when that cast.

[01:13:26] Yeah, I'm kind of surprised it placed that high, but maybe the title had something to do with it because it very much is, it grabs your attention right away.

[01:13:35] Listen to this premise here.

[01:13:37] A retired serial killer retired acts as a consultant for an offer writing about the murders.

[01:13:44] So if you're telling me that this is a two-hander between Steve Buscemi and, I don't know, who would it be with Britt Lower or would it be with John Magaro?

[01:13:53] I don't know.

[01:13:54] Or maybe it's John Magaro and Britt Lower.

[01:13:56] No, you know what?

[01:13:59] Maybe John Magaro is playing a younger version of Steve Buscemi?

[01:14:04] Man, that's sure, but I'm interested.

[01:14:07] All I know is that Steve Buscemi's got to be playing the serial killer, right?

[01:14:10] You would think.

[01:14:11] Probably.

[01:14:12] All right, and number one, I'm not surprised that this is number one.

[01:14:18] Number one is a movie I saw way, way back when it had its world premiere at the Telluride Film Festival called Daddy-O featuring Dakota Johnson and Sean Penn.

[01:14:30] Yeah, I saw that trailer.

[01:14:33] It looks fine.

[01:14:34] I don't know if I'm particularly looking forward to it, but I do like to support Dakota Johnson because I do really like her.

[01:14:40] Can I tell you something about this movie really quick?

[01:14:43] I saw this, Josh, and I expected the worst for obvious reasons.

[01:14:50] And they start with Sean and they end with Penn.

[01:14:52] Yeah.

[01:14:53] And I will say that the beginning of the movie gave me those vibes and I was quite horrified as to where the film was potentially going.

[01:15:02] All I will say is that the film surprised me in the best way possible and it turned out to be better than I expected.

[01:15:09] Well, that's encouraging.

[01:15:10] But yeah, the combination of Sean Penn and a movie called Daddy-O just for some reason that just doesn't sound like an appealing thing to put together to me.

[01:15:21] But hopefully it is better than my initial intention or my initial perception of it is.

[01:15:27] This will remind you of what a great actor Sean Penn can still be.

[01:15:32] Okay, that's good because I do think that when he is good, he is incredible, but it's not as consistent as I would like.

[01:15:39] All right.

[01:15:40] So those are the 10 films that the MVP Film Community is looking forward to from Tribeca 2024.

[01:15:47] And for this week's poll for the release of The Fall Guy, we are asking everyone what has been your favorite action film from the last 20 years?

[01:15:58] 2004 till the present.

[01:16:02] Feel free to list off a few if you can't decide.

[01:16:05] Will Mavity starting with you.

[01:16:07] You know, I'm not going to say something like Fury Road because I think it's going to be stated by so many people.

[01:16:16] I'm going to throw out the raid redemption.

[01:16:18] Everyone talks about the raid, but the raid redemption is just the action sequences in that are just not redemption.

[01:16:26] Raid 2 Berendahl.

[01:16:28] The action sequences in that sequel are just next level.

[01:16:34] There are three or four different fight sequences in that that are among the best I've ever seen on screen.

[01:16:42] The prison riot sequence, there is a highway sequence, a subway sequence and the climatic final fight are all just astounding bits of choreography, stunt work, sound, camera work.

[01:16:59] Matt, you've seen the raid too, right?

[01:17:01] Of course I have.

[01:17:03] Yeah, okay.

[01:17:05] Just brutal bone cracking violence, but it's about as good as you can ask for for just a pure action movie.

[01:17:14] So I'm going to throw that one out there.

[01:17:17] That's a great choice.

[01:17:18] I want to say for the record before anybody yells at me for this poll because I didn't want it to become so heavily sequelized.

[01:17:28] I took only one film from each quote unquote franchise and included it in this poll.

[01:17:34] So you're only seeing one movie from Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, one Mission Impossible film, one, you know what I mean?

[01:17:43] So I didn't want to just have this whole thing be a whole list of sequels across the board.

[01:17:48] So I do have the raid redemption on the list, Will, but I don't have the raid 2 listed, but there is a write-in option.

[01:17:56] So raid 2 is a good call out.

[01:17:59] Nadia, what about you?

[01:18:01] Well I was also my first instinct was just to say Mad Max for Rerode because it's such a spectacle.

[01:18:08] But I'm also going to go elsewhere and give some love to Edge of Tomorrow actually.

[01:18:16] Yeah, so good.

[01:18:18] Yeah, I remember first seeing that in theaters and I didn't have any expectations at all for it.

[01:18:26] And I was so surprised by how fresh it was, especially with the time loop story,

[01:18:33] the way that they were able to make every scene feel fresh and exciting,

[01:18:38] basically the same scenes over and over in some to some extent.

[01:18:43] And I made it so interesting and I just loved the characters, Cage and Ratsky, Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt, great chemistry.

[01:18:55] I just really enjoyed it. I thought the action sequences were really great.

[01:18:59] And after all these years, it's super memorable.

[01:19:02] You know, and it's funny, I saw someone recently say, oh, Tom Cruise is one of those guys who never lets himself lose a fight in a movie.

[01:19:10] No, one of the things that's so great about that movie is he spins much of it, painting himself as a loser who repeatedly gets his ass kicked.

[01:19:19] And it's very refreshing because he's not dignified at all in many of his death scenes.

[01:19:25] You know, he has these hilarious almost like Ryan Gosling type screams at different points, you know, when he gets killed by the aliens.

[01:19:34] And it's, it is nice. It's a great art for that character.

[01:19:39] You know, that one works not just as an action film, you know, it is by the standards of that kind of blockbuster.

[01:19:46] It's a great character piece too.

[01:19:48] And it's of the later career Tom Cruise.

[01:19:52] It's one of his more atypical performances that we get in his action movies.

[01:19:57] I adore that movie. I'm glad you singled that out.

[01:20:00] Yeah, it's one of the reasons why I feel so refreshing is to see him in that light.

[01:20:04] And it's got this really great balance of action and humor too. So just worked really well.

[01:20:10] And Emily Blunt is a complete badass in the movie too.

[01:20:13] Oh, when she's doing, I think she's probably mid pushup.

[01:20:17] There's that scene where she's kind of rising up and oh my God.

[01:20:22] Has there ever been a more iconic pose in the last 20 years?

[01:20:28] All right, Josh Palm.

[01:20:32] Yeah, I mean, I agree that Mad Max is probably going to win this poll and for good reason because it probably is the objective best in here.

[01:20:41] For my part, though, I do have to be loyal to my brand and say Casino Royale.

[01:20:47] I think that is an incredible movie. It is my second favorite Bond film of all time.

[01:20:53] I think that the way they reinvented the world of that character was just so it was refreshing,

[01:21:00] but also really necessary for that moment.

[01:21:02] And I think it is just the action in that movie too.

[01:21:06] Every single set piece is just incredible.

[01:21:09] And yeah, so not surprising for me, but yeah, I have to shout out one of the greatest Bond movies ever made.

[01:21:15] Matt, does your rule mean that you don't have Skyfall on here?

[01:21:19] Correct. Wow.

[01:21:21] I mean, I was on there. I would still pick Casino Royale.

[01:21:24] Yeah, no, I would too.

[01:21:26] Casino Royale has got more impressive action.

[01:21:29] Yeah, I think it's maybe the best Bond movie period, but I think you probably get ruffled some feathers there because I know a lot of people prefer Skyfall.

[01:21:39] Listen, I know I ruffled some feathers here with a couple of my choices.

[01:21:42] Like, you know, I totally get it.

[01:21:44] Like, I have Avatar the Way of Water instead of the first Avatar, but you know, I mean, listen, there is a writing option.

[01:21:51] Okay. And if you want me to give a consolation prize by saying on next week's show, hey, yeah, Captain America Winter Soldier placed maybe that's also a vote for the other Captain America films.

[01:22:03] I don't know, but these were for me, like I said, to just try and keep the poll somewhat contained because believe me, I didn't want to list every MCU film.

[01:22:13] That's ever been made on this poll. Like, I just couldn't do it.

[01:22:18] So for me, guys, I mean, Mad Max Fury Road is the greatest action film of all time as far as I'm concerned.

[01:22:24] So that easily gets my number one vote.

[01:22:26] But if I'm going to praise some others here, I will go to bat for John Wick chapter four. Absolutely.

[01:22:34] You all know how hard I went for that film last year.

[01:22:37] I will go hard for RRR, which I think has some of the most over the top glorious action stunt work I've seen in recent years as cartoonish as it is sometimes.

[01:22:48] It is still awesome.

[01:22:51] And Mission Impossible Fallout I still maintain is the best Mission Impossible film with the best set pieces, in my opinion.

[01:22:59] Oh my God, Matt, I'm looking at your list.

[01:23:01] I'm changing my answer to I'm changing my answer to hot fuck.

[01:23:06] Fuzz, which is one of the greatest films ever made period, not just an action film.

[01:23:13] That movie is an absolute miracle.

[01:23:15] It's a great answer.

[01:23:16] The ultimate action comedy film.

[01:23:20] So good. I quote it so many times.

[01:23:23] I assume the entire Internet has seen that movie by now.

[01:23:26] But if you're listening to us and you've somehow not seen hot fuzz, stop what you're doing right now.

[01:23:30] I love that movie.

[01:23:32] It's so good.

[01:23:33] And I love the sincerity that it takes the ridiculous parts of that plot and just plays it straight.

[01:23:41] It makes it even better.

[01:23:42] I love that film.

[01:23:43] And while the fall guy for me may not rank as one of the best action films of the last 20 years,

[01:23:51] I will say that when you watch it, there is this level of sincerity that does come through in the filmmaking for stunts and action films.

[01:24:04] And just an appreciation for what these men and women put themselves on the line to create on screen for us.

[01:24:13] And I could not help but be won over by this movie, even if I had other various issues with it, which we'll talk about on our review next week.

[01:24:23] But this just got me thinking so much in general about the contributions of stunt men and women and how we desperately need to recognize them with an Academy Award at some point.

[01:24:37] Whether that's for a stunt coordinator or however they decide to figure it out down the line.

[01:24:42] But I love that we're going through a time right now where these people are getting more appreciation from the industry, I think, than ever before.

[01:24:52] And this movie is, I think, going to only help further that conversation.

[01:24:56] Hopefully.

[01:24:57] Has anyone else here seen it yet besides me?

[01:24:59] I have not seen it yet, no.

[01:25:01] No.

[01:25:02] Okay.

[01:25:03] More to come soon.

[01:25:05] All right.

[01:25:06] Let's head on over to the MVP Film Community with their questions for this week.

[01:25:36] Peter Rabbit's Awards Buzz, Best Trailer of the Year so far.

[01:25:50] Well, you know, we didn't mention it earlier but that the DreamWorks Robot Movie.

[01:25:59] I will only mention it because every time that trailer plays, I'll admit, I tear up at it every single time I tear up at that trailer.

[01:26:07] It really, really gets to me.

[01:26:09] Damn.

[01:26:10] All right.

[01:26:11] If a trailer can make you cry, that definitely says something.

[01:26:14] This trailer was also mentioned earlier but trap was pretty good.

[01:26:20] I thought it got me excited.

[01:26:25] I will say Twisters.

[01:26:29] Every time I watch that trailer, I get super, super pumped.

[01:26:33] Yeah.

[01:26:34] The construction of it with the display of each letter of the title is really well done.

[01:26:40] The use of Glenn Powell and his movie star Charisma is perfectly on display.

[01:26:46] I really just love everything about that trailer's construction.

[01:26:51] I don't know what's one actually that just sprung to mind.

[01:26:53] That's a bit of a surprise for me but I really do think it is probably the most single,

[01:26:58] the most effective teaser trailer of the year.

[01:27:02] Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.

[01:27:03] I was just thinking that, yeah.

[01:27:05] Man, you want to talk about something that I was not looking forward to and then boom,

[01:27:09] this trailer just drops and holy crap, I'm all in now.

[01:27:13] I don't even need to see anything else.

[01:27:15] It's a perfect teaser.

[01:27:17] Yeah, especially seeing it play before my Challengers screening yesterday and seeing it on the big screen.

[01:27:24] Yeah.

[01:27:25] I have to admit in terms of I was not a fan of the first Joker

[01:27:31] and I don't know that Joker for you to do is going to be good

[01:27:35] but I'm certainly interested now after.

[01:27:40] Will Soto's umbrella of cherry-pour influences and was like, oh man, they got me.

[01:27:46] Yeah, exactly.

[01:27:49] All right, all right.

[01:27:52] Ben Sears, given the earlier reports that Megalopolis won't be finished in time,

[01:27:56] do you think there's a chance that the Cannes version won't be the final theatrical version?

[01:28:01] I think there's a chance.

[01:28:03] Yeah, I mean seeing as a film doesn't have a distributor yet.

[01:28:06] Yes, absolutely.

[01:28:08] Whoever picks up might decide, hey, you know what, we want some edits done, you know?

[01:28:13] Yeah.

[01:28:15] Well, doesn't it have a distributor in France now?

[01:28:18] Yeah, I think Hathay is distributing it.

[01:28:22] But they're the only ones that has no other territories.

[01:28:26] S2S movie reviews, what's your favorite Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross score?

[01:28:32] Oh, that's a good one.

[01:28:35] I freaking love these guys.

[01:28:37] I listen to every single one of their scores.

[01:28:41] Oh, that's tough.

[01:28:43] I hate to say this because of recently bias, but man, that challenger score is so, so good.

[01:28:50] Yeah, yeah, I was listening to it this morning.

[01:28:53] I kind of feel like that honestly might be my new favorite from them,

[01:28:59] but I do want to shout out a score that I absolutely love and I keep going back to it.

[01:29:05] It's the Bones and All score.

[01:29:08] I think my favorite overall score is the social network,

[01:29:12] but it's going to sound maybe a little weird, but hear me out on this.

[01:29:16] I love falling asleep to the Empire of Light score.

[01:29:22] Yeah, I could see that.

[01:29:24] It's so peaceful and serene.

[01:29:26] I just, God help me.

[01:29:29] It's like one of those scores where it's like, I may not love the movie,

[01:29:32] but just as a standalone listen, that score is gorgeous.

[01:29:36] I think also it's worth reminding people that like the social network score at the time was so groundbreaking

[01:29:44] and really, I think was kind of a game changer for film scores going forward for the next decade.

[01:29:50] I mean, I think it really had a significant influence on the type of scores we've gotten since then.

[01:29:56] I made this argument on our Inception podcast when we were talking about Best Original Score

[01:30:00] and y'all tried to tell me that the Inception score was better.

[01:30:04] Thank you, Will. Thank you.

[01:30:06] Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[01:30:08] We did not say that the social network wasn't influential.

[01:30:12] We just said that we thought Inception was maybe a little bit more in terms of the general perception of things,

[01:30:18] which I think you can still make an argument of.

[01:30:20] We didn't say the social network score was bad, by the way.

[01:30:22] I just wanted that on the record.

[01:30:24] I still disagree completely.

[01:30:26] I think the social network is way more influential because it single-handedly gave the okay to the industry

[01:30:32] using more electronic synthesizers and other types of equipment in their scores moving forward.

[01:30:38] Sure, but my argument was that the Inception soundtrack

[01:30:42] literally created a shorthand for general audiences to go to

[01:30:46] in terms of what a particular soundtrack sounded like.

[01:30:50] I'm just saying, you know, but it's another argument we can have.

[01:30:54] We're putting this up to a vote with the MVP Film Community.

[01:30:56] We will let them decide at some point.

[01:30:58] All right.

[01:31:00] Dan Allen, why do you think Quentin Tarantino truly stopped on the film critic movie?

[01:31:08] I mean, the most obvious thing that you can read into it is that he didn't want this to be his last movie

[01:31:14] and he's kind of getting inside his head about that.

[01:31:16] I don't know if that's true.

[01:31:18] That's a completely personal opinion, but it kind of feels that way a little bit.

[01:31:24] It's really hard because he said in interviews that he feels like once upon a time in Hollywood

[01:31:29] is like his magnum opus and that's like the best film he'll ever make.

[01:31:33] And now he feels like the film is going to be like some sort of like an epilogue to his filmography.

[01:31:41] And it's like, dude, I just why are you putting these expectations on yourself?

[01:31:48] Yeah, I really do get the sense that he wishes Hollywood had been his last movie.

[01:31:55] Absolutely.

[01:31:57] He made his last movie one too early.

[01:32:00] I even saw somebody say like that they were thinking maybe down the road,

[01:32:05] he'll actually go back on the whole kill bill is one movie and make that two and then retroactively say,

[01:32:10] no, what's about that?

[01:32:11] My Hollywood is now my last movie because now I'm going to count kill bill as two.

[01:32:15] Continuing with the Quentin Tarantino talk here, Edwin Arauz wants to know what film genre would you like Quentin Tarantino's last film to be?

[01:32:24] I would like his next movie not to be his last one.

[01:32:28] Accept it, Will.

[01:32:29] Accept it.

[01:32:30] It's going to be his last.

[01:32:32] I would have liked him seeing some like some true horror from Tarantino would like to have seen some sci-fi.

[01:32:39] You know, there's a lot of different genres I would have liked to have seen from Tarantino.

[01:32:43] Oh, you know what?

[01:32:44] I just realized I think we I think we like answered this question maybe a week or two ago on the show actually.

[01:32:50] We came to the conclusion that him doing a black and white film noir would be pretty awesome way to go out.

[01:32:56] Oh, yeah.

[01:32:58] Yeah, definitely horror too.

[01:33:00] God, Tarantino doing horror.

[01:33:02] Could you imagine?

[01:33:04] Yeah, I mean he further but then a little bit.

[01:33:06] Yeah, well death proof and then he wrote it with death till dawn.

[01:33:10] But yeah, I mean to him true that's what I'm saying like a true horror film from Tarantino would just rule.

[01:33:17] Uh, Turali with the year already being dominated by international directors.

[01:33:23] How many American directors do you think will be nominated for best director this year?

[01:33:28] And do you think there will be some resistance within the international voting body?

[01:33:34] That's interesting.

[01:33:36] I think I read a quote recently from Jessica Lang stating that the best films that are released nowadays are also international films.

[01:33:42] Did you guys see that quote?

[01:33:44] Yeah, she referenced an enemy of a fall I believe too.

[01:33:47] Yeah, I definitely to get the sense that our industry of Hollywood is definitely becoming more international.

[01:33:57] That's being reflected of course in the Academy Awards as well.

[01:34:00] And a lot of times what I'm seeing is I am seeing American audiences respond positively at the box office to international films.

[01:34:08] You look at something like Godzilla minus one and how well that just recently did or the sensation of RRR

[01:34:14] and what that was able to accomplish with its crossover parasite everything everywhere all once.

[01:34:20] You know, there's a lot of examples that are coming up each and every year here to the point that I don't see this as a negative.

[01:34:29] I think this is actually a good thing.

[01:34:31] Yeah, it broadens the scope and the horizons of what people can seek out.

[01:34:36] Yeah, I think that's a good thing.

[01:34:38] And I mean, I just thought back to the best director lineup that we just had that Scorsese is the only American in that lineup.

[01:34:46] Right?

[01:34:47] Yeah.

[01:34:48] So it's already trending that direction.

[01:34:49] Yeah, I have no predictions at this current moment for what's happening with Best Director this year.

[01:34:56] But you know, you already have hypothetically Denis Villeneuve, Edward Berger for Conclave.

[01:35:04] You know who knows.

[01:35:05] I'm sure something will show up at Cannes as well as it usually does.

[01:35:09] Exactly.

[01:35:10] Speaking of Cannes, Josie DeMarco wants to know why aren't more people talking about Gia Zangkis caught by the tides as a potential palm door winner?

[01:35:19] I feel this is being underestimated.

[01:35:21] He's made very acclaimed films and has been in competition quite a few times.

[01:35:25] He's already had a golden line under his belt with still life.

[01:35:30] It could be a possibility.

[01:35:32] I feel like it's always just so hard to predict what's going to win the palm though because the juries change every year.

[01:35:39] So you never really know what's going to happen.

[01:35:41] Like we had mentioned this before, at this time last year, Anatomy of a Fall wasn't on anybody's radar.

[01:35:47] No.

[01:35:48] No, and this year, I mean, it's particularly hard because there are a lot of very acclaimed directors this year who's recent films people didn't eagerly awaiting the follow-ups.

[01:36:00] I mean, just look at the competition list.

[01:36:02] I mean, Alia Basi, Andrea Arnold, Jacques Arillard, Sean Baker, Francis Ford Coppola, David Cronenberg, Yorgos Lanthimos, Paul Schrader.

[01:36:15] I think this Limanov by Kareel Serbinov, Serbinekirov is which was written by the way by Pavel Pavel Lekowski.

[01:36:25] I think that is one that could definitely be big.

[01:36:30] Paulo Sorrentino, I mean, this is just a who's who of former winners and Oscar nominated directors.

[01:36:38] It is hard for me to hype up anything as a likely winner because this field is so stacked with big names.

[01:36:46] And I'll tell you this, when I was on the ground last year and we were getting to the end of the festival,

[01:36:52] I could have sworn to you that I thought that the poem was going to go to zone of interest and it ended up going to anatomy of a fall in the end.

[01:37:01] But it's a very unpredictable thing.

[01:37:04] We still don't even know who the jury is besides Greta Gerwig this year.

[01:37:08] Yeah, that's kind of odd that we still don't know that yet.

[01:37:11] I agree.

[01:37:12] I'm a little curious like why do we not know that yet?

[01:37:15] Yeah, I mean, if it isn't going to be Greta, I trust her so.

[01:37:18] I was going to say, right?

[01:37:19] Imagine Greta is just the one woman jury of the whole thing.

[01:37:22] I'd be fine with it.

[01:37:26] All right, two more questions.

[01:37:28] Nancy Mallory, what are your thoughts on Jerry Seinfeld's recent comments saying that the movie business is over?

[01:37:37] For him maybe.

[01:37:38] Yeah, yeah.

[01:37:40] I mean, we get into this cycle every now and then and it's like, it's hard not to like look,

[01:37:46] I understand that there are definitely big changes that have happened within the industry and it's definitely transformed.

[01:37:52] It's not the way it used to be, but I think just saying it's completely done,

[01:37:58] especially from somebody who just doesn't make movies anymore.

[01:38:02] And I don't know.

[01:38:03] I'm just a little that does not really interest me all that much from that conversation.

[01:38:07] I much rather prefer to hear from people who are actually in it.

[01:38:12] I guess there are challenges, certainly, but there's always avenues.

[01:38:15] There's always ways to evolve and adapt.

[01:38:18] And then I think people will find ways to do that.

[01:38:21] It's not going to be the same as it used to be.

[01:38:23] I obviously recognize that, but to just say it's all over in the future.

[01:38:27] I also don't agree with that.

[01:38:29] Couldn't have said it any better myself.

[01:38:31] And finally, we're going to go out here on another question from Josie DiMarco.

[01:38:36] In honor of the release of Challengers, what is your favorite sports movie?

[01:38:43] The sports movie not usually a genre that is my favorite.

[01:38:47] I have to be honest.

[01:38:48] I have a couple.

[01:38:50] I particularly love Moneyball.

[01:38:53] Yeah.

[01:38:54] Bolt Urm, The Wrestler, Foxcatcher.

[01:38:59] And if we can allow for Raging Bolt to count, then let's count that.

[01:39:06] Raging Bolt definitely counts.

[01:39:08] Yeah, I know.

[01:39:09] It's just like a lot of boxing in that movie.

[01:39:11] Sure.

[01:39:12] Sure.

[01:39:13] Yeah.

[01:39:14] I guess also for me when I think of stuff like Moneyball and Foxcatcher,

[01:39:17] I guess those are technically sports movies, but that's not like...

[01:39:20] I don't really consider them that in my mind because the sport isn't necessarily

[01:39:25] the driving thing that I'm interested in.

[01:39:28] There's other human drama stuff that's happening that is more the focus.

[01:39:32] And I guess for me if I'm thinking about an actual movie where the sport

[01:39:37] is so central to the premise, I think for me it would be a League of their Own.

[01:39:43] Oh, that's a great choice.

[01:39:45] Love that.

[01:39:46] Dodgeball, a true underdog story.

[01:39:48] Yeah.

[01:39:51] Oh, he's a philosopher.

[01:39:53] You can dodge a wrench.

[01:39:55] You can dodge a ball.

[01:39:56] Yes.

[01:39:58] Oh my God.

[01:40:00] What is like the commentary?

[01:40:02] That's a bold strategy, Cotton.

[01:40:04] Let's see if it works out for her.

[01:40:06] Love and basketball is pretty good too.

[01:40:08] Love and basketball is so underrated, so good.

[01:40:12] Yeah.

[01:40:13] I don't know if this counts.

[01:40:14] Bring it on.

[01:40:15] Oh yeah, I think it counts.

[01:40:16] Is that kind of a spring?

[01:40:17] Yeah.

[01:40:18] You know what?

[01:40:19] Yeah.

[01:40:20] It's a classic.

[01:40:21] Let's do that.

[01:40:22] Let's say it counts.

[01:40:23] Absolutely.

[01:40:24] What about Warrior?

[01:40:25] Oh, Jesus.

[01:40:26] Warrior.

[01:40:27] My God, I forgot about Warrior.

[01:40:29] Yeah.

[01:40:30] Warrior's fantastic.

[01:40:31] That's certainly Joel Egerton's I think best performance.

[01:40:35] And still makes me cry every time I watch it.

[01:40:37] Yeah, when that the national song comes in, it's okay Tommy.

[01:40:41] So good.

[01:40:44] Oh man, what a great movie.

[01:40:46] You know, and I'm going to throw out there also people criticize

[01:40:51] million dollar baby as being manipulative.

[01:40:53] And I don't think it should have one best picture, but it is pretty effective.

[01:40:58] I still think that is a good movie.

[01:41:01] I agree.

[01:41:02] It's very good movie.

[01:41:03] All right.

[01:41:04] Well, thank you to the MPP film community for your questions for this week.

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