Episode 380 - New Oscar Casting Category, BAFTA Winner Predictions & "A Quiet Place: Day One" Trailer

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[00:00:26] Savings may vary by state. Restrictions apply. See site for details. It's a tie. I'm the killer world! And the Oscar goes to... The Oscar goes to the Oscar monster. I only object to be a terrorist to try and get out of the show. It's like a horse like me! It's like a two-hit regular idea. I don't get it. Could have been a contender. A person who's... I could have been somebody.

[00:01:40] They could only kill me with a golden hood.

[00:01:42] What have I done?

[00:01:43] I'll be Mr. Tevers.

[00:01:45] I'm gonna make him an outfit, Captain. talk about in the world of award season more than I anticipated talking about this week. So to hear to help me do all that this week I have Josh Palm. Hello. Hello. Giovanni Lago. Hello everyone. Tom O'Brien. Hi everybody. And joining us as a guest here for the first time on the podcast we have Monique Jones. Hello everyone. Welcome Monique to the show. You. I think as a story, it's like sort of just okay. I don't think there's really anything new from, even from like a storytelling documentary kind of perspective, you would find anything that is really innovative. But definitely some nuggets in there that if you're interested in his career and the movies he's worked on,

[00:04:21] there's good things there.

[00:04:22] But I wouldn't say it was like

[00:04:23] one of my favorite documentaries that I've seen.

[00:04:27] But outside of that honor and other times where I'm like, what was going on in the low mid 2000s with the cinematography category? Yeah, it's very inconsistent, I would say very happy she won. Now looking at retrospect, I'm like, that's a great one. Fantastic. Nicholas Cage on the other hand, maybe you can make the arguments to weak point. I feel how it is a very much a master class performance of the Nicholas Cage overacting, but I feel it does play into how theatrically

[00:07:03] corny and over the top, you know, that character is.

[00:08:01] kill like a lot of hours. So I was like, you know, I'm gonna finally

[00:08:03] watch The Wages of Fear.

[00:08:04] And I was like sweating.

[00:08:06] This is an incredibly tense boiler cooker of a film.

[00:08:10] You know, it's just these guys be so broke and desperate

[00:08:13] to really make it out of poverty

[00:08:15] that they were willing to drive cars filled with

[00:08:18] so much explosives and say screw it.

[00:08:20] Let's do it.

[00:08:21] Every interaction is phenomenal.

[00:08:24] I think the practical set pieces of,

[00:08:26] especially there's a loved one. You know, it's got a lot to it that has to work.

[00:09:40] And it was the family storyline

[00:09:42] that really was the most compelling to me

[00:09:44] because largely because of Niko tremendous and he carries the whole thing on his very muscular shoulders. Even though it's not in our awards conversation right now, when I look back on 2023, this is one of the movies that I'm gonna remember most fondly.

[00:11:02] Maybe when we announce the MVP film war nominations,

[00:11:04] maybe it'll pop up later.

[00:11:06] Well, yeah. in that movie. So I sat with it and I recently rewatched it this week and I'm just like, see all these new things and seeing all these things I missed. Just really a phenomenal film. And I do want to bring it up again when we talk about casting, but that was the first one.

[00:12:21] Second one, you know, the big advantage of having movie maybe, but the very beginning of the movie, there's no dialogue, but it conveys everything you need to know about it, but it kept his attention, which for a six-year-old boy is very difficult,

[00:13:41] but yeah, it was just a really fun time

[00:13:45] to be able to share and she does nothing. And it's such a shame.

[00:15:00] And also the movie is just bland to look at.

[00:15:02] I'm starting to think that it tonight. Sorry. I'm going tonight to rewatch, uh, Dune in IMAX and I am so excited to rewatch that film again. I'm taking a friend with me who hasn't seen it before getting ready for Dune part two,

[00:16:20] which I'm seeing later this week.

[00:16:23] So much hype and so much anticipation.

[00:16:24] I cannot, cannot, cannot wait.

[00:16:26] Hey there.

[00:16:28] I'm Hannah. There's a lot to talk about. First up, I want to talk about the DGA winners. Chris Van Nolan won the DGA award for Oppenheimer. No surprise there. He's likely going to win BAFTA and sweep and go on to win the Oscar. And even if he loses BAFTA, he's still going to win the Oscar. And he's not losing BAFTA.

[00:17:41] He's not losing BAFTA.

[00:17:41] Right, well, either way, less than a month from now,

[00:17:44] we'll officially be able to say Academy Award winner,

[00:17:46] Chris Van Nolan.

[00:17:47] Oh, let's go.

[00:17:48] Which is awesome. every award it's probably up for including Spirit Awards, BAFTA, like it's I think that races over. Yeah, that's what I kind of felt to be honest. Although it should be noted that this particular precursor for DGA documentary, not the most reliable. You know, we've had a lot of Oscar winners lose this, but I feel like this will be more

[00:19:03] of a situation where passion and love for that movie is just going to mean it will sleep. can win again, because if it does, there's no reason to not predict it to win the Oscar for production design. But if Barbie wins at BAFTA, we still have a very, very competitive race heading into the end game here. And then let's not forget, Oppenheimer now winning, of course, at ADG, which was considered, I don't know if it's considered so much a upset because it is such a juggernaut within the industry,

[00:20:22] but I think a lot of people were kind of holding out hope

[00:20:25] that something like Asteroid City would win

[00:20:26] or something or another. andheimer can sneak in a few votes from there. But if it does, it's taking away from poor things, I think. Yeah, I think Barbie has underperformed slightly in the international awards. So I'm tending to think that it will take BAFTA and that will be a big, big leg up. I'm going back to my original prediction with Barbie before it started, you know, doing

[00:21:43] well with the critics groups. So This might be a case where the industry just feels one way versus the other and you know

[00:23:01] I want to like tie it back to of feel like poor things should really be winning these categories say who we have predicted for each one. And we'll see what ends up happening because BAFTA is still, even though last year, specifically, they really did not line up well last year with the Oscars at all. No. No. No. I still maintain they are an important precursor,

[00:25:41] especially when you consider that, even though they aren't

[00:25:43] last now, SAG is last, they still, I think, That's why he was possibly going to play. What was it Frankenstein? Yeah. Yeah, that's why he was considered I'm gonna switch it and I'm gonna go for Ireland's very own I'll I'll be verge I'm gonna go with IO. Okay, so for the category for best

[00:27:05] British film

[00:28:06] poor things in zone of interest right now. I like your argument, Matt. And I think just for, I think just for that, I think I'm going to go with zone of interest.

[00:28:11] My gut wants to say poor things, but I just, yeah, you're right. It would be, it would be very

[00:28:18] strange for it to not, for it to not go of this group, only one of them is up for best film to add BAFTA. Correct. You kind of have to go with that one. Yep. And I think there's a chance, you know, anatomy could win a screenplay award at BAFTA, which is a big deal.

[00:29:40] So I mean, it makes sense.

[00:29:42] It's not like bad logic, what you're thinking, man.

[00:29:45] So I'll go with anatomy of fall too.

[00:29:48] Yeah. Yeah. Very easy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Animated feature. Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse, Elemental, the Boy in the Harron, Chicken Run, Dawn of the Nugget. I have had this mentality all season long that I'm going to predict Spider-Man across

[00:31:03] the Spider-Verse to win until it doesn't. I never know what to do with this category. We have had two winners where they go for young ensemble cast and two winners where they clearly there's like a whole combination of, there's a whole combination of old and new there. And just, it's a great cast and it's a great ensemble. So I'm going to go holdovers. I'm considering killers of the flower moon.

[00:33:40] The downside to that is that Lily didn't get nominated and Scorsese didn't get nominated.

[00:33:45] Right.

[00:34:44] could win here because while yes, it didn't do well with getting some of those nominations above the line,

[00:34:47] I do think back to the long list at least,

[00:34:49] and there were a lot of mentions for members of that cast.

[00:34:53] And I think it's also a bit difficult to judge

[00:34:57] reception to some of these movies

[00:34:58] when you are looking at the juried categories

[00:35:00] because that just now introduces such a weird element

[00:35:04] to figuring out how people really did respond to the movie.

[00:36:03] ultimately what BAFTA is going to go with between them, but if creator wins VES and BAFTA,

[00:36:06] I do think at that point you can't deny

[00:36:09] the creator winning the Oscar probably.

[00:36:11] Well, yeah, at that point,

[00:36:14] it will have passed the test of like a general

[00:36:17] voting membership going for it

[00:36:20] because my whole hangup with the creator so far

[00:36:22] has been that movie bombed and nobody saw it.

[00:36:26] So that's always been my resistance to picking it. considering it's not in any of the main categories of VES and it's not nominated here, I don't know like what leg Anyone is standing on there when it comes to that movie so I Agree Josh visual effects society is probably not gonna go for Oppenheimer if they do it would be genuinely shocking to Dead Reckoning, Ferrari, Maestro, and Zone of Interest. Now, I do think if Zone of Interest is ever going to win a sound award, it is going to be here, but I have no reason to bet against Oppenheimer, so that's what I'm picking. Yeah, it's Oppenheimer.

[00:39:00] It's not what Oppenheimer is going to win.

[00:39:03] Yep. logic, using that logic once again, I have no reason to go against Oppenheimer here. So predicting Oppenheimer all the way. Lood, big, lood, big, lood, big. Same. But like, I want to reiterate though, a poor things shocking win here wouldn't surprise me. I also wouldn't consider it a threat to win the Oscar still, even if it won here, and

[00:40:23] be honest with you.

[00:40:24] Oh, sure.

[00:40:25] I would just see that as, oh three BAFTA ADJ and critics choice critics choice actually has the best

[00:41:41] record for picking the winner here and that went to Barbie so

[00:41:46] all eyes are on BAFTA because

[00:42:47] I sense a tide is turning in this category and I'm going with poor things over Maestro. Oh, I'm going to rock with Maestro still.

[00:42:51] Yeah, I'm still going to stick with Maestro.

[00:42:53] I understand the arguments for poor things, but I do just think that the thing that you

[00:42:59] think about with Maestro is Bradley Cooper in that makeup.

[00:43:03] And I still think that that's convincing to move me back to my show. I really want to see what the makeup guild ends up doing. I want to see if they end up going for poor things or my show. I assume they would go for my show and if that did happen, like the thing I just can't

[00:44:20] get over, the thing that's bothering me really stroke, but I swear to God, if poor things wins this,

[00:45:40] I'm predicting it's when the Oscar. And plus, you know, it just killers the fireman and BAFTA didn't perform as perfectly as I wanted. I'll probably just, you know, be safe. I'll stick with Hoyt and Hoyt and Mom because he's just been winning everywhere and we'll see what happens at BAFTA if anything switches up. I want to be very clear about something, Geo.

[00:47:00] There is still a world where Prieto, I think wins ASA.

[00:47:04] Yeah.

[00:47:04] And then like it gets BAFTA,

[00:47:06] like I would not be convinced. That is a very respectable pick. And I feel like that is the safe default. I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb with this category though. Because I think that given how well all of us strangers actually did here,

[00:48:21] I sort of feel like the fans of that movie at B snub Was newsworthy and I think defenders of the film. It's really gonna rally to its eye. It's not a bad pick I'm still gonna go with poor things but Josh good on you if it wins because I'm gonna cheer for it about all the strangers if it wins

[00:49:43] There is a couple of things I would do you want to say about this category Imagine a world where WGA wasn't after the Oscars and it still was before. My belief is American fiction would have CCA and WGA, BAFTA can go their own way and do whatever they want and it doesn't matter. They could do poor things. They could do Oppenheimer and that doesn't translate to Oscar. Obviously, we're not living in that reality. We're living in a reality where we simply won't know, which makes it incredibly difficult.

[00:51:03] So no matter what ends up happening here, other than American fiction winning, you can't Gotham that's surprised when a Golden Globes and I do think it's going to win here as well. And then I also think that probably means it goes on to the Oscar for original screenplay. I'm going with Anatomy of a Fall. I am too. I am too. Like the writing has been on the wall but nobody seems to have been like it's like these

[00:52:20] ever films were in contention and all eyes were on nose and here was this film from France

[00:52:25] that just was bringing in screenplay wins and everybody. If you had asked me a couple of weeks ago, I still would have said, ah, yeah, this race is between holdovers and past lives. I think momentum in this category is very important because there are plausible alternatives to Anatomy of the Fall. And if it was more of them, so a few weeks ago, even though it was in a different category. It'll be very tough. I can't say definitively. Okay. Well, it did lose the globe. Oh, sorry.

[00:55:00] It didn't lose the globe.

[00:55:01] Yes, you're right, it was nominated there.

[00:55:02] Yeah.

[00:55:03] Yeah, okay, nevermind, I take that back.

[00:55:06] But that just goes back to what I was saying before.

[00:55:07] I think Barbie is completely vulnerable Lewis Strauss would say on the devil, it's Downey. I don't see many pathways for an upset here. No, no, it's Robert Downey Jr. It's Downey. Best supporting actress. We have Emily Blunt for Oppenheimer. Divine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers. Rosman Pike for Saltburn. Clairvoy all of the strangers.

[00:56:20] Daniel Brooks to Colour Purple.

[00:56:21] Sandra Hooler.

[00:56:22] The Zone of Interest.

[00:56:23] I think this is where BAFTA goes rogue. This is a really tough category for me because like, shout out to the women who were nominated because I don't see a bad performance at all in this category. But just what you said, momentum. I'm going to go with Randolph, but Sandra Healer is my number two. I just personally feel like say it's Killian Murphy for Oppenheimer. Yeah, this was another article I wrote. I said that this it's gonna be Killian and if Killian wins BAFTA and then he wins SAG, it's pretty much over.fetched now, but that's just a performance that every actor looks to is like, ooh, I wanna play a real person and totally transform. Oh yeah, it's like Jessica Chesin and the eyes of Tammy Fay, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So there's so many factors. And then, you know, Giamatti's still very much attending because that's just someone, everyone respects so much

[01:00:21] and has had such a great career

[01:00:22] and he's been winning everything so far.

[01:01:26] with Bradley Cooper. I still think not out of the equation, but I think for now it's looking pretty good for Killian. So I think bath the wise, you know, I'll go with Killian.

[01:01:31] No, I think that Murphy probably is going to win here. But Giamatti, if he were to pull out that

[01:01:38] victory, I think that would absolutely seal it for. Yeah. I mean, well, if Sandra Huler wins here and Lilly Gladstone wins at SAG,

[01:03:01] that is literally the best possible case scenario for Lilly Gladstone to win the Oscar.

[01:03:05] That's what I have.

[01:04:02] Wouldn't be surprised if there's an upset, but I'm still gonna go with Emma Stone here.

[01:04:05] Yeah, I'm with Josh on that.

[01:04:06] I think that she's been campaigning

[01:04:09] and I think that she's just so much good will towards Stone

[01:04:14] that I think she will take it.

[01:04:17] It is close, but I think Stone takes it.

[01:04:20] All right, best director.

[01:04:22] We have Christopher Nolan and five other nominees.

[01:04:25] Yeah.

[01:04:26] Yeah.

[01:04:27] Now we have Bradley Cooper from My Show, Andrew Hay to win Best Picture at the Oscars. But considering its dominance this entire season, I would imagine Oppenheimer would win here. Nolan is also one of their own. It just kind of makes sense. I agree. It's Oppenheimer. Yeah, nothing's going to take it down, I don't think.

[01:05:40] What do you think is the biggest threat to it, though?

[01:05:42] Poor thanks.

[01:05:43] Yeah.

[01:05:44] It won the Globe.

[01:05:45] It has denominations. are going to be announced in April of 2025, along with the complete set of rules for the 98th Academy Awards. So we still have a ways to go before we find out more information about this category. They just simply dropped the news this week. And there was a lot of discussion about, you know, all pure speculation,

[01:07:01] what are gonna be the rules?

[01:07:03] What would be the criteria?

[01:07:04] What would voters have to think of

[01:07:06] when they are voting for this?

[01:07:08] And there's a mentality of almost all of these categories when the general voting members are picking like they always do you go for perfectly cast small ensembles like the holdovers or all the strangers? I

[01:09:41] mean, there's a lot of different ways you can have to do for something like that But then 2020 is where it gets very interesting Because I don't think I can just immediately say no madland. No, I don't think it would be no madland. I I Don't know like I kind of feel like it would be either

[01:11:02] Trial of the Chicago 7 or Minari and here I was gonna say sound of metal

[01:12:06] are important here because we need to be pointed in the right direction of what to think of here. Otherwise, to Josh's point, it is going to be, I think, pretty easy to just look at what's winning

[01:12:13] best picture and just predict that to win casting. Or who has the most famous names in it too?

[01:12:18] Like I do wonder about that. But like, as I said, I don't think that's a reason to not be

[01:12:23] excited about the category. Like, that is no reason to doubt that it was Nolan's idea for that, obviously, but, you know, like, hypothetically, I'm not saying this is true, but hypothetically, like, maybe we start hearing more stories about it was the casting director's suggestion that so-and-so go and meet up with so-and-so, you know?

[01:13:43] And this becomes part of the Oscar narrative question that I did have in the first in scale it was, how tightly constructed, especially in the second one, that whole opening sequence is great. And Krasinski is doing his, oh, look at my Spielberg-esque type opening. But it's like in this small town in either the Midwest or the South, I can't remember.

[01:16:21] And I think they're watching baseball, you know, like local kids baseball game.

[01:16:25] That's, to me to be quiet and everything. Because clearly it's going to be like them learning that. And obviously as it starts off, but also you're in a giant city where noise is inevitable. So I don't know. It doesn't really appeal to me for why I liked these two previous films. I just thought it was very generic looking trailer.

[01:17:41] Yeah, I think the first quiet place was like a really solid kind of B monster movie.

[01:17:47] That was just very, very well done. but my expectations are not particularly high for this franchise that they are creating because even the second one, as I said, didn't really impress me all that much. And another talking point that I feel like it's brought up pretty often here on the podcast as well is Jaimin Hansu is another underrated actor. I have to believe that after his inclusion

[01:19:02] in the second film, my guess is he formed some form

[01:19:06] of a relationship with Dislepieden-Niengo character really enjoy the first film. The fear you have to have for Lupin and Yongo is that they pull up Ryan Cranston on her where she's only in the movie for like 15 minutes. And then she kicks the bucket. Ooh, I would not like that at all. I did not like it when they do it with Brian Cranston and Godzilla. I would not like it here.

[01:20:21] No things.

[01:20:23] God, no.

[01:20:23] Also, too, is her character a mute?

[01:20:26] I don't know.

[01:20:28] I don't know if they just didn't want to reveal Monika, I apologize, you had no hand in this. Oh, dang it. It's all good. I'll just judge it. I'll just judge your choices. All right. So here's what we did guys category by category. Here we go. Best visual effects. We did the creator.

[01:21:41] God's Ella minus one.

[01:21:43] Oppenheimer, poor things and Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse.

[01:22:43] quiet eyes from past lives.

[01:22:47] Am I dreaming from Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse and camp isn't home from theater camp.

[01:22:50] Okay, I'm gonna work with it there.

[01:22:52] Hashtag justice for peaches.

[01:22:56] Oh, you're one of those, okay.

[01:22:58] I am one of those.

[01:23:00] We are not one of those over here.

[01:23:02] Although shout out to Jack Black's enthusiasm.

[01:24:02] Yeah, if for those of you that have not seen Carmen or even just listened to the score for it,

[01:24:04] like it listens to the score, it's amazing.

[01:24:07] Best production design.

[01:24:10] Asteroid City.

[01:24:11] All right.

[01:24:12] Barbie.

[01:24:14] Kill us with a flower moon.

[01:24:16] Oppenheimer.

[01:24:17] Poor fangs.

[01:24:19] Okay, I was wondering what the fifth one was gonna be

[01:24:21] and it was Asteroid City.

[01:24:23] The runner up was the zone of interest.

[01:24:27] Mm. and Spider-Man across to Spider-Man's. Interesting. Yeah, no poor things. The runner up was John Wick, chapter four. Wow, I would have thought poor things would have been a rubber up, that's interesting. I really, really love this category. I am so happy that both the killer

[01:25:40] and Spider-Man across to Spider-Verse here,

[01:25:42] that's too great for me.

[01:25:45] For the category of interest. Yeah The runner up Disappointed in you for all of this was John Wick chapter I put it in I'm pretty sure I Lot of us did I don't those of you that didn't I want to have words

[01:27:04] Well, you can't blame me because I didn't have a vote so true true

[01:28:10] considering. That's sci-fi horror film. Evil Dead Rise. Godzilla minus one. Infinity Pool. Megan and talk to me. The runner up was my personal favorite

[01:28:21] horror film of the year when evil lurks. I across to Spider-Verse. Then Extraction 2. Extraction 2. Okay. Dude, the action scenes in Extraction 2 are awesome. Yeah, I'm gonna go to bed for that movie. That shit ripped. I don't know what to talk about. Yeah, my parents were watching it when I was picking up my son and I just how

[01:29:41] happened to like stay and I'm like, oh my God, it, unfortunately. No. Yeah. Best documentary film. 20 Days of Mario poll, Beyond Utopia, the Eternal Memory, Four Daughters, and still a Michael J. Fox movie. Okay. The runner up was Kokomo City. Oh.

[01:31:00] So close.

[01:31:01] For Best Animated Film, the boy in the hair on, Elemental, Nimon December, and past lives. Okay. All right, I like it. I'm fine with it. Very solid list. Yeah. Yeah. The runner-up was fair play. Hmm. Okay. Interesting. For best adapted screenplay, this was another one that was very competitive.

[01:32:24] Yeah.

[01:32:25] Are you fair, God?

[01:32:27] It's me, Marty.

[01:32:28] Wow. Yeah. For Best Ensemble. Not Best Casting, Best Ensemble. Haha. Haha. Asteroid City. Barbie. Killers of the Fire Moon. Oppenheimer and Poor Fangs. And the runner up was American Fiction.

[01:33:40] Alright, that's a respectable list.

[01:33:42] Okay.

[01:33:43] For the category for Best Youth Performance.

[01:34:43] Hailey Steinfeld for Spider-Man across to Spider-Verse. Wow.

[01:34:45] The runner-up was Bradley Cooper

[01:34:47] for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.

[01:34:50] I keep forgetting that's a voice over performance,

[01:34:53] because I just think sometimes he's real

[01:34:55] and I just think only animated, so I'm like, I forget.

[01:34:59] But you two will believe a raccoon can talk.

[01:35:03] Yeah, it's the magic.

[01:35:04] That's why we go to the movies.

[01:35:06] I wish points pew got in for the dub for boy. Tony Jr. for Oppenheimer, Ryan Gosling for Barbie, Charles Melton for May, December, and Mark Ruffalo for Poor Fangs. Wow. Hmm. Um, I need to know the runner up. I just need to know. The runner up was Glenn Howardton for Blackberry.

[01:36:21] What?

[01:36:22] So, okay.

[01:36:24] Okay, so we didn't officially put in Howardton.

[01:36:27] We had no McGarro. Daniel Brooks for the color purple. For Best Actor, which I think was by far the most competitive and toughest category overall. Here we go. I'm scared. I did not like that side. I did not like that.

[01:37:40] Coleman Domingo for Rustin.

[01:37:43] Okay.

[01:37:44] All right.

[01:37:45] Zach Efron for the iron claw.

[01:37:47] Oh wow.

[01:38:42] That's, wow, okay. For Best Actress.

[01:38:46] Another one that was pretty tough here.

[01:38:49] Lily Gladstone Killers the Flower Moon.

[01:38:52] Love it.

[01:38:53] Sandra Hooler, Anatomy of a Vol.

[01:38:56] Awesome.

[01:38:57] Greta Lee, Passloss.

[01:38:59] Oh!

[01:39:00] Oh, yes.

[01:39:02] Emma Stone, Poor Fangs.

[01:40:01] All right.

[01:40:05] The runner up was Justine Triet for Anatomy of a Fall.

[01:40:06] Okay. Matt, one quick question.

[01:40:08] Yeah.

[01:40:08] How many votes do Miyazaki get?

[01:40:11] Not enough.

[01:40:14] I feel like me and Brendan might have been like the only two people

[01:40:16] were like, you know what?

[01:40:17] Let me is a key.

[01:40:19] I think getting a director for animation is incredibly hard,

[01:40:23] even with a small group like ours.

[01:40:25] Oh, sure.

[01:40:26] I noticed.

[01:41:22] followed by poor things with 13, Kill Is It A Flower Moon with 11,

[01:41:24] and Barbie and Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse with 10.

[01:41:28] Damn.

[01:41:29] The voice acting and nominations, it just rags up.

[01:41:32] Yeah.

[01:41:33] And like I said for the community,

[01:41:35] take those away and it still has a good nomination hall.

[01:41:37] Yep.

[01:41:38] Mm-hmm.

[01:41:39] And now, I mean, we've followed the holdovers

[01:41:41] and past lives with six nominations.

[01:41:43] Are you there? God, it's me, Margaret,

[01:41:44] and the Zone of Interest with five.

[01:41:46] Asteroid City, May, December. on last week's poll we asked everyone which films they are most looking forward to seeing at the Berlin International Film Festival which is kicking off here this week we have Katie Luxford who is going to be attending Berlin on our, can't wait. Very much excited. It's got Ed Harris just being a weirdo with a rat tail and muscle mummies and guns and such a great unique visual style. So I'm in. Yeah, I really enjoyed that when I saw it at Sundance. It was

[01:44:23] very much the definition of a matinegaly movie in a lot of ways. So I think you're going to like it.

[01:45:24] All right, let's see what the MPP Film Community went for here.

[01:45:32] At number 10, it is another end starring

[01:45:38] Gail Garcia Bernal, Renata Ransva, and Barony Spajoe.

[01:45:40] Oh, and Olivia Williams as well.

[01:45:41] Yeah, I want to see that one.

[01:45:44] I was directed by Italian filmmaker Piero Messina.

[01:48:21] So yeah, that one definitely definitely on my radar now. Number five is Space Man. material to just worship our over we're asking everyone which is solid actress, but if the material isn't great, she can't really rise above it. But you know, the last few years, I was like, okay, she's picking like really well projects. And I mean, I also liked her and bad times at the El Royale. I think she's pretty fun in that movie. But, you know, I just want to see I am okay. Like what's going on studios? Like release it, please.

[01:50:42] 50 Shades was not your fault. No, I think a lot of people have agreed over time

[01:50:45] that 50 Shades was not her fault.

[01:50:46] The same way that Twilight was not

[01:50:49] Kristen Stewart or Robert Pattinson's fault.

[01:50:51] I think she has definitely moved beyond

[01:50:55] the stigma of the reception to those movies.

[01:50:59] Yeah.

[01:51:00] Tom, what about you?

[01:51:02] I agree, Matt, on best performance.

[01:51:05] Jotch, our real smooth. viral. I don't understand why did it go viral. Well, what's funny about that is they can't, I think that's it. I still think that's like her best film, not even close in my opinion.

[01:53:40] I think the way that that's that story,

[01:53:43] that has been told repeatedly so many times,

[01:53:45] and it's such a unique't like memorable to me. I always just forget, just those a whole year in advance. I will say the one that comes to memory just because of the unique way they did it was that one Cloverfield movie that was not good, where they dropped a really good trailer. And then they were like, oh yeah, by the way, boom, Netflix.

[01:55:00] Like no pro or anything, like it's on now.

[01:55:02] And I thought that was just such a like unique way

[01:55:04] of doing it.

[01:55:05] Unfortunately, the movie's not good.

[01:55:06] No, but if it's a business. It is what it is. I'm like,

[01:56:24] okay, even if you were trying to sell it, I'm now convinced another job at another movie studio ever again. But then maybe there's somebody somewhere that's like, you know what, you did the right thing, kid. I will give you an opportunity. Like I was like thinking to myself, I wonder what would happen to that person's life if they decided to leak it for the rest of the world. But you know, like I'm treating this like it's Edward Snowden or something. Well, the last thing I'll say about it is on that point,

[01:57:45] you know, the who are being cucked

[01:59:00] by like saying, oh wow, it's just a business

[01:59:02] and everything.

[01:59:04] There's a sense that like, yeah,

[01:59:06] we know Hollywood's a business. going to tell me that a movie like this worldwide would not be able to pull in $200 million. I see. Yeah. Also, because apparently it's good. We've heard from multiple like insiders and stuff who've seen the movie. It's co-written by Sammy Birch, who's nominated for an Oscar for May, December. Yeah. It's it makes no sense. It's just it's evil. That's inherently what it is. It's evil.

[02:00:20] And you guys read the article, right?

[02:00:22] The executives didn't even watch it.

[02:00:24] He didn't watch it.

[02:00:26] No, they're they're to me. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:01:40] Peter Rabbit's Oscar buzz or awards, I don't know, Peter Rabbit something.

[02:02:41] Yeah. Yeah.

[02:02:42] So I don't think that this, because I have been seeing people wondering if net betting

[02:02:46] is going to like surprise at the last minute.

[02:02:48] No.

[02:02:49] No.

[02:02:50] No.

[02:02:51] No.

[02:02:52] No.

[02:02:53] We're just getting bored.

[02:02:54] I just think it seems the amount of campaign she's been doing lately I think has made it

[02:02:59] seem like she's a stronger presence in the category.

[02:03:03] I don't really think that's going to happen.

[02:03:05] I mean it would be very fun if she were to win sag. It's been over 20 years since Animated Feature was introduced. My two scenarios for stunts being introduced are this. Either it happens for the 100th anniversary of the Academy Awards, because you know they're going to want to do some special things that year.

[02:04:20] Or if it isn't that, it's going to be at minimum 10 years. Josie Tamarka wants to know in honor of the Super Bowl, which football team would Duncan Wettaburn root for at the bar or casino? Gambling heavily, losing heavily.

[02:05:46] Oh man, I actually don't have real answers to that because I don't know which two teams are in the Super Bowl

[02:05:47] tonight. Quentin Tarantino's last film. Oh, oh, oh. First off, I just have to address the Tom Cruise remark. Because if that happens, I'm going to be insufferable. Because that is just one of the things. You we kind of think that there's got to be something on Tarantino's side where it's like, this is the last time I'm ever going to have this opportunity.

[02:07:00] Because in his mind, he feels like he's done after this, right?

[02:07:03] So you got to think that the fanboy in him

[02:07:06] is probably thinking, who was my dream cast? cool mysterious Brad Pitt and then also it's apparently not a big role so I'm expecting something more in the lines of like pachino or Russell and once upon a time for cruise but but if Cruz is willing to go out of his way to help out his remember the Titans. Denzel Washington was absolutely phenomenal in that movie. And even all like the younger actors in there too were absolutely phenomenal. So for me, I'm biased. It's got to be remember

[02:09:41] the Titans. Try to think because usually when I, yeah. In real life, yeah. They made him try out. I think a football movie that I also would like to revisit at some point soon just to see if it's as good or better than I remember it being is any given Sunday.

[02:11:02] Yeah.

[02:11:03] Oh.

[02:11:04] And I'd like to throw in Friday night lights.

[02:11:07] Oh, awesome. Thank you once again, Josh Parham, where can they find you on the internet? You can find me on Twitter and Letterbox.jrparham. Giovanni Lago. You can find me on Twitter at the Giovanni Lago. Tom O'Brien. And you can find me on Twitter at Thomas E. O'Brien.

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